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  15     <B>Strider</B>
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  19     <I>Mon Mar 19 17:03:00 PST 2001</I>
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  34 <PRE>You need to keep in mind that not every Tom Dick and Harry is the most
  35 computer literate person in the world or knows about making good passwords.
  36 Many people try to make passwords they can remember, like the name of their
  37 dog, their address, etc etc. It is very bad practice, but there is no way to
  38 just go out to the world and tell everyone their password is insecure, blah
  39 blah blah. Am I not right? I do try to tell my users to use strong
  40 passwords. Some do, some don't. You don't just abandone those who chose not
  41 to, because that is the majority, whether we like it or not.
  42
  43 If any feel this is a big issue and want it fixed, I suggest making a logon
  44 news, motd entry, and a web page for your irc server stating the fact you
  45 want your users to make strong passwords. This will NOT force every single
  46 user to do so, so don't be surprised if it doesn't even work.
  47
  48 Suggestion on a feature:
  49 Allow services to make a randomly generated password. Perhaps /msg nickserv
  50 register RANDOM email would do it rather than set it to random. Since the
  51 services does reply to you with the password you entered, the user has a
  52 chance to write down the password.
  53
  54 Beau (Strider) Steward
  55 chatcircuit administrator and 6bit band member
  56 <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">strider at chatcircuit.com</A>        www.chatcircuit.com
  57 <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircadmin at chatcircuit.com</A>     irc.chatcircuit.com
  58 <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">strider at 6bit.net</A>                    www.6bit.net
  59 ----- Original Message -----
  60 From: &quot;Andy Smith&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">andy at strugglers.net</A>&gt;
  61 To: &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>&gt;
  62 Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 8:20 AM
  63 Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Re: [Andy Smith - IRCServices]
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  65
  66 &gt;<i> On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 17:42:52 +0200, Partizanu &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">silvius at expres.ro</A>&gt; wrote:
  67 </I>&gt;<i>
  68 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;Imagine this:
  69 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;Some user, let`s say Guest007 come to you and say:
  70 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;- Hello my dear services admin! I have a problem. User BadGuest stole my
  71 </I>password
  72 &gt;<i> &gt;and I want my nick back. Can you do something about this?
  73 </I>&gt;<i>
  74 </I>&gt;<i> In this situation, BadGuest was given the password by the user, or else
  75 </I>the
  76 &gt;<i> user did something to allow BadGuest to easily guess it.  That is the
  77 </I>user's
  78 &gt;<i> problem.
  79 </I>&gt;<i>
  80 </I>&gt;<i> The other slim possibility is that the IRC network itself has someone
  81 </I>&gt;<i> sniffing passwords on it.  That is a problem that needs to be solved, and
  82 </I>no
  83 &gt;<i> part of services can solve it for you.
  84 </I>&gt;<i>
  85 </I>&gt;<i> The vast majority of &quot;password stealing&quot; incidents are down to users
  86 </I>sharing
  87 &gt;<i> their passwords.
  88 </I>&gt;<i>
  89 </I>&gt;<i> --
  90 </I>&gt;<i> Andy Smith &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">andy at strugglers.net</A>&gt;
  91 </I>&gt;<i>
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