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34<PRE>You need to keep in mind that not every Tom Dick and Harry is the most
35computer literate person in the world or knows about making good passwords.
36Many people try to make passwords they can remember, like the name of their
37dog, their address, etc etc. It is very bad practice, but there is no way to
38just go out to the world and tell everyone their password is insecure, blah
39blah blah. Am I not right? I do try to tell my users to use strong
40passwords. Some do, some don't. You don't just abandone those who chose not
41to, because that is the majority, whether we like it or not.
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43If any feel this is a big issue and want it fixed, I suggest making a logon
44news, motd entry, and a web page for your irc server stating the fact you
45want your users to make strong passwords. This will NOT force every single
46user to do so, so don't be surprised if it doesn't even work.
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48Suggestion on a feature:
49Allow services to make a randomly generated password. Perhaps /msg nickserv
50register RANDOM email would do it rather than set it to random. Since the
51services does reply to you with the password you entered, the user has a
52chance to write down the password.
53
54Beau (Strider) Steward
55chatcircuit administrator and 6bit band member
56<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">strider at chatcircuit.com</A> www.chatcircuit.com
57<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircadmin at chatcircuit.com</A> irc.chatcircuit.com
58<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">strider at 6bit.net</A> www.6bit.net
59----- Original Message -----
60From: &quot;Andy Smith&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">andy at strugglers.net</A>&gt;
61To: &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>&gt;
62Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 8:20 AM
63Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Re: [Andy Smith - IRCServices]
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66&gt;<i> On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 17:42:52 +0200, Partizanu &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">silvius at expres.ro</A>&gt; wrote:
67</I>&gt;<i>
68</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Imagine this:
69</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Some user, let`s say Guest007 come to you and say:
70</I>&gt;<i> &gt;- Hello my dear services admin! I have a problem. User BadGuest stole my
71</I>password
72&gt;<i> &gt;and I want my nick back. Can you do something about this?
73</I>&gt;<i>
74</I>&gt;<i> In this situation, BadGuest was given the password by the user, or else
75</I>the
76&gt;<i> user did something to allow BadGuest to easily guess it. That is the
77</I>user's
78&gt;<i> problem.
79</I>&gt;<i>
80</I>&gt;<i> The other slim possibility is that the IRC network itself has someone
81</I>&gt;<i> sniffing passwords on it. That is a problem that needs to be solved, and
82</I>no
83&gt;<i> part of services can solve it for you.
84</I>&gt;<i>
85</I>&gt;<i> The vast majority of &quot;password stealing&quot; incidents are down to users
86</I>sharing
87&gt;<i> their passwords.
88</I>&gt;<i>
89</I>&gt;<i> --
90</I>&gt;<i> Andy Smith &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">andy at strugglers.net</A>&gt;
91</I>&gt;<i>
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