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14 <H1>[IRCServices] Adding features to services</H1>
15 <B>Rafael Ritter</B>
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17 TITLE="[IRCServices] Adding features to services">rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br
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19 <I>Mon Nov 22 04:34:58 PST 1999</I>
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34 <PRE>In a big network, this may be a problem. My server have +- 5000 users, and
35 by removing this two features, we could reduce the problem of stealling
36 channels.
37 I just wrote this experiment here, because it may be usefull to someone
38 with this problems.
39
40 Rafael Ritter
41 Equipe VIA RS
42
43 At 15:37 18/11/99 -0500, you wrote:
44 &gt;<i>What do you gain by this? From how I read it, only IRCops can drop
45 </I>&gt;<i>channels. That can be a major pain. Users
46 </I>&gt;<i>should be able to drop stuff by themselves without having to go ask
47 </I>&gt;<i>somebody to do it for them, and getting put on a waiting list for the Opers
48 </I>&gt;<i>to get around to dropping their channel. I'm sorry, but if I read this
49 </I>&gt;<i>correctly, this isn't a good idea IMHO. I know if I were a user it'd really
50 </I>&gt;<i>piss me off.
51 </I>&gt;<i>Just my $.02
52 </I>&gt;<i>
53 </I>&gt;<i>-Chris
54 </I>&gt;<i>
55 </I>&gt;<i>P.S. I would like to see the aop/sop/av/etc. commands implemented into
56 </I>&gt;<i>services in replace of the &quot;dreaded&quot; ACCESS =)
57 </I>&gt;<i>
58 </I>&gt;<i>----------
59 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> From: Rafael Ritter &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br</A>&gt;
60 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> To: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ender.shadowfire.org</A>
61 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Adding features to services
62 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> Date: Thursday, November 18, 1999 6:18 AM
63 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>
64 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> Just a suggestion:
65 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> in my server, I had disabled the DROP and SET FOUNDER commands. To use
66 </I>&gt;<i>this
67 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> command you need to be an IRCop.
68 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> This simple change dont let users to stole channels from another users.
69 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> They can even stole de password, but the channel's INFO allways will show
70 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> the nickname of real founder. If someone, ask for a password or something
71 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> relative, you only need to look at channel INFO.
72 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>
73 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> Rafael Ritter
74 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> Equipe VIA RS
75 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>
76 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> At 11:10 18/11/99 +0200, you wrote:
77 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
78 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;This is just a quickie based on what I read earlier.
79 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
80 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;If you're going to add features to ircservices, especially if you intend
81 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;(or atleast, would like) your features to be incorporated into newer
82 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;releases, you MUST make sure ALL your code changes will accomodate ALL
83 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;supported IRCds.
84 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
85 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;The way Andy originally coded services makes this quite easier... you
86 </I>&gt;<i>have
87 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;a number of compile-time directives which compile in the appropriate
88 </I>&gt;<i>code
89 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;based on the ircd selected at configuration.
90 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
91 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;For example:
92 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
93 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; #ifdef IRC_DAL4_4_15
94 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; ... code ...
95 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; #endif
96 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
97 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;The expressions available are:
98 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
99 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; IRC_DALNET, IRC_DAL4_4_15, IRC_CLASSIC,
100 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; IRC_UNDERNET_NEW, IRC_TS8, IRC_UNDERNET,
101 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
102 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;Don't suppose anyone is bored and would like to outline the differences
103 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;between these IRCds? Maybe add it to a programming FAQ for services
104 </I>&gt;<i>which
105 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;another bored person could make?
106 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
107 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;Lastly, I agree with the need for an additional list for the CODING of
108 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;ircservices. Feature suggestions and things help requests are fine for
109 </I>&gt;<i>a
110 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;normal list, but I think a place where people could discuss
111 </I>&gt;<i>implementation
112 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;of certain things and what they break, how to fix these things, etc,
113 </I>&gt;<i>would
114 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;be constructive.
115 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
116 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;- Gav
117 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
118 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;---
119 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;Gaven Cohen aka Kinslayer &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">dragon at wastelands.net</A>&gt; www.wastelands.net
120 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;freelance sysadmin/programmer HABONIM DROR linux, fantasy enthusiast
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