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| 14 | <H1>[IRCServices] Adding features to services</H1> | |
| 15 | <B>Rafael Ritter</B> | |
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| 17 | TITLE="[IRCServices] Adding features to services">rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br | |
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| 19 | <I>Mon Nov 22 04:34:58 PST 1999</I> | |
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| 34 | <PRE>In a big network, this may be a problem. My server have +- 5000 users, and | |
| 35 | by removing this two features, we could reduce the problem of stealling | |
| 36 | channels. | |
| 37 | I just wrote this experiment here, because it may be usefull to someone | |
| 38 | with this problems. | |
| 39 | ||
| 40 | Rafael Ritter | |
| 41 | Equipe VIA RS | |
| 42 | ||
| 43 | At 15:37 18/11/99 -0500, you wrote: | |
| 44 | ><i>What do you gain by this? From how I read it, only IRCops can drop | |
| 45 | </I>><i>channels. That can be a major pain. Users | |
| 46 | </I>><i>should be able to drop stuff by themselves without having to go ask | |
| 47 | </I>><i>somebody to do it for them, and getting put on a waiting list for the Opers | |
| 48 | </I>><i>to get around to dropping their channel. I'm sorry, but if I read this | |
| 49 | </I>><i>correctly, this isn't a good idea IMHO. I know if I were a user it'd really | |
| 50 | </I>><i>piss me off. | |
| 51 | </I>><i>Just my $.02 | |
| 52 | </I>><i> | |
| 53 | </I>><i>-Chris | |
| 54 | </I>><i> | |
| 55 | </I>><i>P.S. I would like to see the aop/sop/av/etc. commands implemented into | |
| 56 | </I>><i>services in replace of the "dreaded" ACCESS =) | |
| 57 | </I>><i> | |
| 58 | </I>><i>---------- | |
| 59 | </I>>><i> From: Rafael Ritter <<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br</A>> | |
| 60 | </I>>><i> To: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ender.shadowfire.org</A> | |
| 61 | </I>>><i> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Adding features to services | |
| 62 | </I>>><i> Date: Thursday, November 18, 1999 6:18 AM | |
| 63 | </I>>><i> | |
| 64 | </I>>><i> Just a suggestion: | |
| 65 | </I>>><i> in my server, I had disabled the DROP and SET FOUNDER commands. To use | |
| 66 | </I>><i>this | |
| 67 | </I>>><i> command you need to be an IRCop. | |
| 68 | </I>>><i> This simple change dont let users to stole channels from another users. | |
| 69 | </I>>><i> They can even stole de password, but the channel's INFO allways will show | |
| 70 | </I>>><i> the nickname of real founder. If someone, ask for a password or something | |
| 71 | </I>>><i> relative, you only need to look at channel INFO. | |
| 72 | </I>>><i> | |
| 73 | </I>>><i> Rafael Ritter | |
| 74 | </I>>><i> Equipe VIA RS | |
| 75 | </I>>><i> | |
| 76 | </I>>><i> At 11:10 18/11/99 +0200, you wrote: | |
| 77 | </I>>><i> > | |
| 78 | </I>>><i> >This is just a quickie based on what I read earlier. | |
| 79 | </I>>><i> > | |
| 80 | </I>>><i> >If you're going to add features to ircservices, especially if you intend | |
| 81 | </I>>><i> >(or atleast, would like) your features to be incorporated into newer | |
| 82 | </I>>><i> >releases, you MUST make sure ALL your code changes will accomodate ALL | |
| 83 | </I>>><i> >supported IRCds. | |
| 84 | </I>>><i> > | |
| 85 | </I>>><i> >The way Andy originally coded services makes this quite easier... you | |
| 86 | </I>><i>have | |
| 87 | </I>>><i> >a number of compile-time directives which compile in the appropriate | |
| 88 | </I>><i>code | |
| 89 | </I>>><i> >based on the ircd selected at configuration. | |
| 90 | </I>>><i> > | |
| 91 | </I>>><i> >For example: | |
| 92 | </I>>><i> > | |
| 93 | </I>>><i> > #ifdef IRC_DAL4_4_15 | |
| 94 | </I>>><i> > ... code ... | |
| 95 | </I>>><i> > #endif | |
| 96 | </I>>><i> > | |
| 97 | </I>>><i> >The expressions available are: | |
| 98 | </I>>><i> > | |
| 99 | </I>>><i> > IRC_DALNET, IRC_DAL4_4_15, IRC_CLASSIC, | |
| 100 | </I>>><i> > IRC_UNDERNET_NEW, IRC_TS8, IRC_UNDERNET, | |
| 101 | </I>>><i> > | |
| 102 | </I>>><i> >Don't suppose anyone is bored and would like to outline the differences | |
| 103 | </I>>><i> >between these IRCds? Maybe add it to a programming FAQ for services | |
| 104 | </I>><i>which | |
| 105 | </I>>><i> >another bored person could make? | |
| 106 | </I>>><i> > | |
| 107 | </I>>><i> >Lastly, I agree with the need for an additional list for the CODING of | |
| 108 | </I>>><i> >ircservices. Feature suggestions and things help requests are fine for | |
| 109 | </I>><i>a | |
| 110 | </I>>><i> >normal list, but I think a place where people could discuss | |
| 111 | </I>><i>implementation | |
| 112 | </I>>><i> >of certain things and what they break, how to fix these things, etc, | |
| 113 | </I>><i>would | |
| 114 | </I>>><i> >be constructive. | |
| 115 | </I>>><i> > | |
| 116 | </I>>><i> >- Gav | |
| 117 | </I>>><i> > | |
| 118 | </I>>><i> >--- | |
| 119 | </I>>><i> >Gaven Cohen aka Kinslayer <<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">dragon at wastelands.net</A>> www.wastelands.net | |
| 120 | </I>>><i> >freelance sysadmin/programmer HABONIM DROR linux, fantasy enthusiast | |
| 121 | </I>>><i> >RSA/1024 0xFC82B78F 4B 43 3C 20 47 58 AF AC DB 1E 7F 6E 64 08 15 7E | |
| 122 | </I>>><i> > | |
| 123 | </I>>><i> >--------------------------------------------------------------- | |
| 124 | </I>>><i> >To unsubscribe, send email to <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">majordomo at ender.shadowfire.org</A> | |
| 125 | </I>>><i> >with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes. | |
| 126 | </I>>><i> > | |
| 127 | </I>>><i> > | |
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| 130 | </I>>><i> To unsubscribe, send email to <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">majordomo at ender.shadowfire.org</A> | |
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| 133 | </I>><i>To unsubscribe, send email to <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">majordomo at ender.shadowfire.org</A> | |
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| 141 | ||
| 142 | </PRE> | |
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