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34 <PRE>On Wed
2002-
10-
02 (
13:
43), Dylan v.d Merwe wrote:
37 </I>><i> I apologize, sent the message in the early hours of the morning.
41 Why does _everyone_ blame their stupid comments and such on sleepiness? It's
42 really getting old now. Don't try to impress people with oh-so-clever comments
43 - just keep quiet unless you have something intelligent to say.
45 And Colin Thorpe(SCF)
<<A HREF=
"http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">ghozer at scfclan.com
</A>> wrote:
47 ><i> Aye men to that.. I Hate all these newb Script kiddies and in experianced
48 </I>><i> people who think they are so much better than everyone else so they can
49 </I>><i> sewear, be abusive and an all round pain in the arse..
53 And no, this isn't suppose to be a flame mail, even if it looks like it :-)
57 ><i> ----- Original Message -----
58 </I>><i> From:
"Saturn
" <<A HREF=
"http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">saturn at jetirc.net
</A>>
59 </I>><i> To:
<<A HREF=
"http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">ircservices-coding at ircservices.za.net
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60 </I>><i> Sent: Wednesday, October
02,
2002 4:
04 AM
61 </I>><i> Subject: Re: [IRCServices Coding] Guest nick
64 </I>><i> > Fair enough answer, and it makes sense..
66 </I>><i> > As to Dylan who was so thoughfully rude in his reply, i grant you that
68 </I>><i> > longer numerics would be useful on a big network, but even DALnet only
70 </I>><i> > 5 digits... that's potentially
100,
000 Guest nicks at once... I really
71 </I>><i> > doubt there are any networks anywhere with the need for a
10-digit nick
72 </I>><i> > (
10,
000,
000,
000 possible GUEST nicks)... I can understand from a
73 </I>><i> > "randomized
" point of view, so that it decreases the possibility of
74 </I>><i> > collision, and once explained that way (thank you Andrew) it makes sense
75 </I>><i> > there. Dylan, I think most people would agree that the onyl stupid
77 </I>><i> > is the one that goes un-asked, and that it is simple rudeness that answers
79 </I>><i> > perfectly valid question with rudeness and sniping, calling it
"stupid.
"
80 </I>><i> > Go climb back under your rock.
82 </I>><i> > ----- Original Message -----
83 </I>><i> > From:
"Andrew Church
" <<A HREF=
"http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">achurch at achurch.org
</A>>
84 </I>><i> > To:
<<A HREF=
"http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">ircservices-coding at ircservices.za.net
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85 </I>><i> > Sent: Tuesday, October
01,
2002 5:
34 PM
86 </I>><i> > Subject: Re: [IRCServices Coding] Guest nick
89 </I>><i> > > Guest nicks were changed during the
5.0 alpha stage to start from a
90 </I>><i> > > random number; this was done to avoid cases where malicious users would
91 </I>><i> > > take the next sequential Guest nick and collide off the nickchanged user
92 </I>><i> > > (and themselves escape Services' notice in the process). The number is
93 </I>><i> > > also re-randomized when such an attempted collision is found.
95 </I>><i> > > In any case, Guest nicks are not intended for actual use in
97 </I>><i> > > they are only a placeholder for people who try to use registered nicks
99 </I>><i> > > haven't yet chosen a new one. (If you, as an oper, need to /msg someone
100 </I>><i> > > with such a nick to resolve a problem or such, well, live with
101 </I>><i> it--/query
102 </I>><i> > > can be quite helpful here.)
103 </I>><i> > >
104 </I>><i> > > --Andrew Church
105 </I>><i> > > <A HREF=
"http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">achurch at achurch.org
</A>
106 </I>><i> > > <A HREF=
"http://achurch.org/">http://achurch.org/
</A>
107 </I>><i> > >
108 </I>><i> > > >My opers were commenting on how long the numeric is following
"Guest
"
109 </I>><i> > when a
110 </I>><i> > > >user is guested... in the old days it was just
5 digits, but i note
113 </I>><i> > > >lot more than that now.. makes it tricky to pm people with all them
114 </I>><i> > numbers
115 </I>><i> > > >too.
116 </I>><i> > > >
117 </I>><i> > > >Any chance of one or both of two possible things happening?
118 </I>><i> > > >
119 </I>><i> > > >1. Can the numeric length be made an option in the conf? (like
120 </I>><i> > > >GuestNumericLength
5 to make it
5 digits or something)
121 </I>><i> > > >2. Can someone tell me where I might find this in the source code to
122 </I>><i> > change
123 </I>><i> > > >it myself?
124 </I>><i> > > >
125 </I>><i> > > >Obviously option
1 would be handier, but I'll settle for option
2... Of
126 </I>><i> > > >course, I know it's kinda petty, and I'll understand also if nobody
129 </I>><i> > > >bother with either solution hehe...
130 </I>><i> > > >
131 </I>><i> > > >Anyone know why it IS suddenly so many more digits now?
132 </I>><i> > > >
133 </I>><i> > > >
134 </I>><i> > > >
135 </I>><i> > > >
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