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15 <B>Mortalica</B>
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19 <I>Wed Oct 2 07:20:22 PDT 2002</I>
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34 <PRE>On Wed 2002-10-02 (13:43), Dylan v.d Merwe wrote:
35 &gt;<i> *blink*
36 </I>&gt;<i>
37 </I>&gt;<i> I apologize, sent the message in the early hours of the morning.
38 </I>&gt;<i>
39 </I>&gt;<i> Dylan.
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41 Why does _everyone_ blame their stupid comments and such on sleepiness? It's
42 really getting old now. Don't try to impress people with oh-so-clever comments
43 - just keep quiet unless you have something intelligent to say.
44
45 And Colin Thorpe(SCF) &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">ghozer at scfclan.com</A>&gt; wrote:
46
47 &gt;<i> Aye men to that.. I Hate all these newb Script kiddies and in experianced
48 </I>&gt;<i> people who think they are so much better than everyone else so they can
49 </I>&gt;<i> sewear, be abusive and an all round pain in the arse..
50 </I>
51 Amen to that too!
52
53 And no, this isn't suppose to be a flame mail, even if it looks like it :-)
54
55
56
57 &gt;<i> ----- Original Message -----
58 </I>&gt;<i> From: &quot;Saturn&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">saturn at jetirc.net</A>&gt;
59 </I>&gt;<i> To: &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">ircservices-coding at ircservices.za.net</A>&gt;
60 </I>&gt;<i> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 4:04 AM
61 </I>&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [IRCServices Coding] Guest nick
62 </I>&gt;<i>
63 </I>&gt;<i>
64 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; Fair enough answer, and it makes sense..
65 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
66 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; As to Dylan who was so thoughfully rude in his reply, i grant you that
67 </I>&gt;<i> MAYBE
68 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; longer numerics would be useful on a big network, but even DALnet only
69 </I>&gt;<i> needs
70 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; 5 digits... that's potentially 100,000 Guest nicks at once... I really
71 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; doubt there are any networks anywhere with the need for a 10-digit nick
72 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; (10,000,000,000 possible GUEST nicks)... I can understand from a
73 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;randomized&quot; point of view, so that it decreases the possibility of
74 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; collision, and once explained that way (thank you Andrew) it makes sense
75 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; there. Dylan, I think most people would agree that the onyl stupid
76 </I>&gt;<i> question
77 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; is the one that goes un-asked, and that it is simple rudeness that answers
78 </I>&gt;<i> a
79 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; perfectly valid question with rudeness and sniping, calling it &quot;stupid.&quot;
80 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; Go climb back under your rock.
81 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
82 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; ----- Original Message -----
83 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; From: &quot;Andrew Church&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">achurch at achurch.org</A>&gt;
84 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; To: &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">ircservices-coding at ircservices.za.net</A>&gt;
85 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 5:34 PM
86 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; Subject: Re: [IRCServices Coding] Guest nick
87 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
88 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
89 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Guest nicks were changed during the 5.0 alpha stage to start from a
90 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; random number; this was done to avoid cases where malicious users would
91 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; take the next sequential Guest nick and collide off the nickchanged user
92 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; (and themselves escape Services' notice in the process). The number is
93 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; also re-randomized when such an attempted collision is found.
94 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
95 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; In any case, Guest nicks are not intended for actual use in
96 </I>&gt;<i> chatting;
97 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; they are only a placeholder for people who try to use registered nicks
98 </I>&gt;<i> and
99 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; haven't yet chosen a new one. (If you, as an oper, need to /msg someone
100 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; with such a nick to resolve a problem or such, well, live with
101 </I>&gt;<i> it--/query
102 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; can be quite helpful here.)
103 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
104 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; --Andrew Church
105 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">achurch at achurch.org</A>
106 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://achurch.org/">http://achurch.org/</A>
107 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
108 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;My opers were commenting on how long the numeric is following &quot;Guest&quot;
109 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; when a
110 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;user is guested... in the old days it was just 5 digits, but i note
111 </I>&gt;<i> it's
112 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; a
113 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;lot more than that now.. makes it tricky to pm people with all them
114 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; numbers
115 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;too.
116 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
117 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;Any chance of one or both of two possible things happening?
118 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
119 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;1. Can the numeric length be made an option in the conf? (like
120 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;GuestNumericLength 5 to make it 5 digits or something)
121 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;2. Can someone tell me where I might find this in the source code to
122 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; change
123 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;it myself?
124 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
125 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;Obviously option 1 would be handier, but I'll settle for option 2... Of
126 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;course, I know it's kinda petty, and I'll understand also if nobody
127 </I>&gt;<i> wants
128 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; to
129 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;bother with either solution hehe...
130 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
131 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;Anyone know why it IS suddenly so many more digits now?
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