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15 | <B>Mortalica</B> | |
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34 | <PRE>On Wed 2002-10-02 (13:43), Dylan v.d Merwe wrote: | |
35 | ><i> *blink* | |
36 | </I>><i> | |
37 | </I>><i> I apologize, sent the message in the early hours of the morning. | |
38 | </I>><i> | |
39 | </I>><i> Dylan. | |
40 | </I> | |
41 | Why does _everyone_ blame their stupid comments and such on sleepiness? It's | |
42 | really getting old now. Don't try to impress people with oh-so-clever comments | |
43 | - just keep quiet unless you have something intelligent to say. | |
44 | ||
45 | And Colin Thorpe(SCF) <<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">ghozer at scfclan.com</A>> wrote: | |
46 | ||
47 | ><i> Aye men to that.. I Hate all these newb Script kiddies and in experianced | |
48 | </I>><i> people who think they are so much better than everyone else so they can | |
49 | </I>><i> sewear, be abusive and an all round pain in the arse.. | |
50 | </I> | |
51 | Amen to that too! | |
52 | ||
53 | And no, this isn't suppose to be a flame mail, even if it looks like it :-) | |
54 | ||
55 | ||
56 | ||
57 | ><i> ----- Original Message ----- | |
58 | </I>><i> From: "Saturn" <<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">saturn at jetirc.net</A>> | |
59 | </I>><i> To: <<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">ircservices-coding at ircservices.za.net</A>> | |
60 | </I>><i> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 4:04 AM | |
61 | </I>><i> Subject: Re: [IRCServices Coding] Guest nick | |
62 | </I>><i> | |
63 | </I>><i> | |
64 | </I>><i> > Fair enough answer, and it makes sense.. | |
65 | </I>><i> > | |
66 | </I>><i> > As to Dylan who was so thoughfully rude in his reply, i grant you that | |
67 | </I>><i> MAYBE | |
68 | </I>><i> > longer numerics would be useful on a big network, but even DALnet only | |
69 | </I>><i> needs | |
70 | </I>><i> > 5 digits... that's potentially 100,000 Guest nicks at once... I really | |
71 | </I>><i> > doubt there are any networks anywhere with the need for a 10-digit nick | |
72 | </I>><i> > (10,000,000,000 possible GUEST nicks)... I can understand from a | |
73 | </I>><i> > "randomized" point of view, so that it decreases the possibility of | |
74 | </I>><i> > collision, and once explained that way (thank you Andrew) it makes sense | |
75 | </I>><i> > there. Dylan, I think most people would agree that the onyl stupid | |
76 | </I>><i> question | |
77 | </I>><i> > is the one that goes un-asked, and that it is simple rudeness that answers | |
78 | </I>><i> a | |
79 | </I>><i> > perfectly valid question with rudeness and sniping, calling it "stupid." | |
80 | </I>><i> > Go climb back under your rock. | |
81 | </I>><i> > | |
82 | </I>><i> > ----- Original Message ----- | |
83 | </I>><i> > From: "Andrew Church" <<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">achurch at achurch.org</A>> | |
84 | </I>><i> > To: <<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">ircservices-coding at ircservices.za.net</A>> | |
85 | </I>><i> > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 5:34 PM | |
86 | </I>><i> > Subject: Re: [IRCServices Coding] Guest nick | |
87 | </I>><i> > | |
88 | </I>><i> > | |
89 | </I>><i> > > Guest nicks were changed during the 5.0 alpha stage to start from a | |
90 | </I>><i> > > random number; this was done to avoid cases where malicious users would | |
91 | </I>><i> > > take the next sequential Guest nick and collide off the nickchanged user | |
92 | </I>><i> > > (and themselves escape Services' notice in the process). The number is | |
93 | </I>><i> > > also re-randomized when such an attempted collision is found. | |
94 | </I>><i> > > | |
95 | </I>><i> > > In any case, Guest nicks are not intended for actual use in | |
96 | </I>><i> chatting; | |
97 | </I>><i> > > they are only a placeholder for people who try to use registered nicks | |
98 | </I>><i> and | |
99 | </I>><i> > > haven't yet chosen a new one. (If you, as an oper, need to /msg someone | |
100 | </I>><i> > > with such a nick to resolve a problem or such, well, live with | |
101 | </I>><i> it--/query | |
102 | </I>><i> > > can be quite helpful here.) | |
103 | </I>><i> > > | |
104 | </I>><i> > > --Andrew Church | |
105 | </I>><i> > > <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">achurch at achurch.org</A> | |
106 | </I>><i> > > <A HREF="http://achurch.org/">http://achurch.org/</A> | |
107 | </I>><i> > > | |
108 | </I>><i> > > >My opers were commenting on how long the numeric is following "Guest" | |
109 | </I>><i> > when a | |
110 | </I>><i> > > >user is guested... in the old days it was just 5 digits, but i note | |
111 | </I>><i> it's | |
112 | </I>><i> > a | |
113 | </I>><i> > > >lot more than that now.. makes it tricky to pm people with all them | |
114 | </I>><i> > numbers | |
115 | </I>><i> > > >too. | |
116 | </I>><i> > > > | |
117 | </I>><i> > > >Any chance of one or both of two possible things happening? | |
118 | </I>><i> > > > | |
119 | </I>><i> > > >1. Can the numeric length be made an option in the conf? (like | |
120 | </I>><i> > > >GuestNumericLength 5 to make it 5 digits or something) | |
121 | </I>><i> > > >2. Can someone tell me where I might find this in the source code to | |
122 | </I>><i> > change | |
123 | </I>><i> > > >it myself? | |
124 | </I>><i> > > > | |
125 | </I>><i> > > >Obviously option 1 would be handier, but I'll settle for option 2... Of | |
126 | </I>><i> > > >course, I know it's kinda petty, and I'll understand also if nobody | |
127 | </I>><i> wants | |
128 | </I>><i> > to | |
129 | </I>><i> > > >bother with either solution hehe... | |
130 | </I>><i> > > > | |
131 | </I>><i> > > >Anyone know why it IS suddenly so many more digits now? | |
132 | </I>><i> > > > | |
133 | </I>><i> > > > | |
134 | </I>><i> > > > | |
135 | </I>><i> > > > | |
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