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[31 Dec/10:35] <Azmodan> test
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[31 Dec/11:12] < SignOff: LosGuy!~husky21@user-33qtk24.dialup.mindspring.com (washington-r.dc.us.undernet.org NewBrunswick.NJ.US.Undernet.Org)
[31 Dec/11:12] < SignOff: wezwork!uio@206.10.128.207 (washington-r.dc.us.undernet.org NewBrunswick.NJ.US.Undernet.Org)
[31 Dec/11:12] < SignOff: LifeBlood!~lifeblood@p93-tnt1.akl.ihug.co.nz (washington-r.dc.us.undernet.org NewBrunswick.NJ.US.Undernet.Org)
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[31 Dec/11:16] @ mode #win98 [+ovv LifeBlood LosGuy wezwork] by NewBrunswick.NJ.US.Undernet.Org
[31 Dec/11:17] < SignOff: LosGuy!~husky21@user-33qtk24.dialup.mindspring.com (Baltimore-R.MD.US.Undernet.Org NewBrunswick.NJ.US.Undernet.Org)
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[31 Dec/11:21] ! anjilah is known as MissNasty
[31 Dec/11:26] <LosGuy> hi ya skippy
[31 Dec/11:27] <CJ^> yo
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[31 Dec/11:27] <LosGuy> Ed!!
[31 Dec/11:27] <LosGuy> howdy
[31 Dec/11:27] <Big`Ed> HiYa Mr Los
[31 Dec/11:27] <Big`Ed> still on vacation?
[31 Dec/11:27] <CJ^> apparently a local ISP here was hacked...
[31 Dec/11:28] <LosGuy> well I have today and tommorrow off
[31 Dec/11:28] * Big`Ed is off tommorow and sunday
[31 Dec/11:28] <Big`Ed> LOCAL?
[31 Dec/11:28] <LosGuy> bad CJ^ bad
[31 Dec/11:28] <CJ^> customers were tols that teh DB wnet down and that their CC info was needed again.. and to reply by email... seemes  they did it.. hehe
[31 Dec/11:28] <CJ^> AA.net ed
[31 Dec/11:28] <Big`Ed> ah
[31 Dec/11:29] <Big`Ed> URGENT NOTICE!**
[31 Dec/11:29] <Big`Ed> You may have recently received email claiming to have come from our billing department saying that your credit card is invalid and to update your information at www.bestwebhelp.net.  
[31 Dec/11:29] <Big`Ed> This mail is bogus and not from us. We are currently tracking down the individual(s) responsible for this hoax.  
[31 Dec/11:29] <CJ^> oooh.. more than one ISP huh?
[31 Dec/11:29] <Big`Ed> that is from aa.net
[31 Dec/11:30] <CJ^> ahh
[31 Dec/11:30] <CJ^> yeah friend of mine dropped em today cause of it
[31 Dec/11:30] <Big`Ed> i'd take SERIOUS consideration of the same
[31 Dec/11:31] <Big`Ed> only ONE way the email went out
[31 Dec/11:31] <CJ^> internal?
[31 Dec/11:32] <Big`Ed> nope - (well could be) but from the USER/BILLING LIST being disclosed outside the company
[31 Dec/11:32] <Big`Ed> be it from hacking/internal leak
[31 Dec/11:33] <CJ^> or lousy admin...
[31 Dec/11:33] <CJ^> a lousy admin is a hack waiting to happen
[31 Dec/11:34] <Big`Ed> i hear we keep all the lousy ones OUT of work
[31 Dec/11:35] <Big`Ed> btw - ready to have a great NewYear?
[31 Dec/11:35] <CJ^> :PPPPPPPP
[31 Dec/11:36] <Big`Ed> los - how is the new box
[31 Dec/11:36] <LosGuy> sitting on the floor still
[31 Dec/11:37] <Big`Ed> well - if you overnighted it here - it could be done now
[31 Dec/11:37] <LosGuy> too lazy to steal a vid card from the other machine
[31 Dec/11:37] <LosGuy> hehe
[31 Dec/11:37] <Big`Ed> i got a old VLB card here
[31 Dec/11:37] <LosGuy> hmm actually I have an old vid card I could use ...two of them in fact
[31 Dec/11:38] <LosGuy> as a test
[31 Dec/11:38] <Big`Ed> hehe
[31 Dec/11:38] <Big`Ed> so - how soon till NZ drops off the planet?
[31 Dec/11:38] <CJ^> soon....
[31 Dec/11:39] <CJ^> i hear kiwi bought Hacking for Dummies
[31 Dec/11:39] <Big`Ed> haha
[31 Dec/11:39] <Big`Ed> didn't see him last coupla days
[31 Dec/11:39] <Big`Ed> maybe he died
[31 Dec/11:39] <LosGuy> I think he had a good idea in that pic
[31 Dec/11:39] <LosGuy> he left when I joined yesterday
[31 Dec/11:39] <CJ^> rm rf *.*
[31 Dec/11:40] <Big`Ed> <grin>
[31 Dec/11:40] <Azmodan> 12 hours and 20 minutes to go
[31 Dec/11:40] <CJ^> first line in teh Hacking for Dummies perl script
[31 Dec/11:40] <Big`Ed> haha
[31 Dec/11:40] <Big`Ed> first you have to explain to them WHAT perl is
[31 Dec/11:40] <CJ^> 3 page booklet...
[31 Dec/11:41] <CJ^> MS Press
[31 Dec/11:41] <Big`Ed> in 12 words or less
[31 Dec/11:41] <Azmodan> perl is a language
[31 Dec/11:41] <CJ^> "Now that teh Virus has been removed.. Please instal MS Windows"
[31 Dec/11:41] <Azmodan> fluffe knows everything
[31 Dec/11:41] <CJ^> and a scripting language at that
[31 Dec/11:41] <Big`Ed> Az!
[31 Dec/11:41] <Big`Ed> hola
[31 Dec/11:42] <LosGuy> az? where?
[31 Dec/11:42] <Big`Ed> got plans for millinium
[31 Dec/11:42] <Azmodan> um i don't have the right body parts to be az
[31 Dec/11:42] <Big`Ed> ooo - the WONDERFUL fluffe`!
[31 Dec/11:42] <Big`Ed> hi lady!
[31 Dec/11:42] <CJ^> a fluffe' kitti?
[31 Dec/11:43] <Big`Ed> (mean tom cat)
[31 Dec/11:43] <LosGuy> that would be the one
[31 Dec/11:43] <LosGuy> doh
[31 Dec/11:43] <CJ^> ROOOOOOWWWWWW
[31 Dec/11:43] <CJ^> HISSS  HISSSS
[31 Dec/11:44] <LosGuy> hmm 
[31 Dec/11:44] * LosGuy watches CJ^ get in WAY over his head hehe
[31 Dec/11:45] * Big`Ed thinks he got her mad at him (again)
[31 Dec/11:45] <CJ^> oh  i know it.....
[31 Dec/11:45] <CJ^> i did not!
[31 Dec/11:45] <CJ^> yet
[31 Dec/11:45] <Azmodan> az is home
[31 Dec/11:45] <LosGuy> hehe
[31 Dec/11:45] <Big`Ed> bye fluffe`!
[31 Dec/11:45] <CJ^> l8r all
[31 Dec/11:45] <CJ^> gotta run to the bank...
[31 Dec/11:45] <LosGuy> good seeing ya flufee
[31 Dec/11:45] < SignOff: CJ^!~skippy@sdn-ar-005watacoP161.dialsprint.net (<<ÐêtóÑ8®>>v3.0 Internet terrorism at its finest.)
[31 Dec/11:45] <LosGuy> oh 
[31 Dec/11:45] <Azmodan> Ed, I borrowed your children
[31 Dec/11:46] <LosGuy> withdraw all yer cash
[31 Dec/11:46] <Big`Ed> pets?
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[31 Dec/11:46] <Big`Ed> okies
[31 Dec/11:46] <Mad^cow> woof
[31 Dec/11:46] <Big`Ed> catch you later
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[31 Dec/11:46] <Mad^cow> oh
[31 Dec/11:46] <Mad^cow> sob
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[31 Dec/11:48] <Advisor18> Can any of you guys tell me why regsvr32.exe would say a dll is in Unicode format and give me errors?
[31 Dec/11:48] <Advisor18> I've tried the exact same file on another computer and it works fine
[31 Dec/11:49] <LosGuy> hmm
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[31 Dec/11:51] ! symetrix is known as EvilPyro
[31 Dec/11:51] <WarnBufet>  I want to unblock all the email address I have previously blocked within OE, how do I do it?  any help would be appreciated
[31 Dec/11:54] ! EvilPyro is known as symetrix
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[31 Dec/11:54] <LosGuy> Advisor18 is it an NT file... works on NT but not win9x
[31 Dec/11:54] <LosGuy> doh
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[31 Dec/12:05] <_Socrates> hi, anyone knows about i3codeca...to play some wav files
[31 Dec/12:05] <LosGuy> not I
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[31 Dec/12:06] <_Socrates> thnx
[31 Dec/12:06] <LosGuy> I know that intel has codecs on their site though
[31 Dec/12:06] ! VaPoR90 is known as V90
[31 Dec/12:07] <V90> does anyone have a registration # for win98?
[31 Dec/12:07] <_Socrates> it works with 95..not with 98
[31 Dec/12:07] <_Socrates> can u give me the url?
[31 Dec/12:08] <LosGuy> we dont do stuff like that here V90 ...leave now and avoid a kick ban
[31 Dec/12:08] <LosGuy> _Socrates intel.com and search
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[31 Dec/12:09] <_Socrates> thnx
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[31 Dec/12:10] <Cairo^> here's a wierd one.  when I insert an audio cd I get a windows dialogue box that says:  Program not found.  Windows cannot find play.  This program is needed for opening files of type 'AudioCD.'  Then it asks yu to tell it ht elocation of 'play.' anyone know where 'play' is located or what i should do?
[31 Dec/12:10] <Cairo^> if I manually open CD Player it plays the audio cd fine, just want it to be automatic
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[31 Dec/12:12] ! [v0rt] is known as grid`
[31 Dec/12:12] < SignOff: LifeBlood!~lifeblood@p93-tnt1.akl.ihug.co.nz (Say hello to Mr. MookaHuka for me)
[31 Dec/12:12] <LosGuy> hmm that would be Mplayer then for audio cds I think
[31 Dec/12:13] <LosGuy> I think I remember winamp hosing this up a while back
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[31 Dec/12:15] <Cyclone_9> Does anyone know how to clear the Internet Explore address list???
[31 Dec/12:15] <LosGuy> hmm its in control panel / internet isnt it? or you can do it from tweakUI I belive
[31 Dec/12:15] <LosGuy> or Cairo^ have cakewalk installed?
[31 Dec/12:16] <Cyclone_9> thanx LosGuy!
[31 Dec/12:16] <LosGuy> Cairo^ try looking around here http://search.support.microsoft.com/kb/psssearch.asp?SPR=w98&T=B&KT=ALL&T1=7d&LQ=Windows+cannot+find+play&S=F&A=T&DU=C&FR=0&D=win98x%2Bor%2Bierelease%2Bor%2Bcustserv%2Bor%2Bcrossnet&LPR=%22windows+98%22&LNG=ENG&VR=http%3A%2F%2Fsupport.microsoft.com%2Fsupport&CAT=Support&VRL=ENG&SA=PER&Go.x=32&Go.y=26
[31 Dec/12:16] <LosGuy> np Cyclone_9
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[31 Dec/12:23] <CRuSRaDa> azzzzzzzzyyyyy
[31 Dec/12:23] <CRuSRaDa> its rabit here
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[31 Dec/12:23] <||Mach5||> got a quick question, windows asks for a login when i start up and i cant get turn it off, if i leave the username blank, it makes me enter a username
[31 Dec/12:23] <Azmodan> no rabit
[31 Dec/12:23] <Azmodan> doh
[31 Dec/12:23] <Azmodan> that was rabit
[31 Dec/12:23] <Azmodan> weird
[31 Dec/12:24] <LosGuy> no CRuSRaDa either
[31 Dec/12:24] <Azmodan> yeah
[31 Dec/12:24] <LosGuy> ||Mach5|| it is ok to enter a username just no password
[31 Dec/12:24] <||Mach5||> i do that, but it still comes back up
[31 Dec/12:24] <LosGuy> and change your primary logon to windows logon or MS family and you wont be asked anymore
[31 Dec/12:25] <LosGuy> IF youhave ever entered a password you will need to del the password files, and this wont work if you have muliple users
[31 Dec/12:25] < SignOff: ||Mach5||!dayton_b@cd-dial31.seidata.com (Read error to ||Mach5||[cd-dial31.seidata.com]: Connection reset by peer)
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[31 Dec/12:30] <LosGuy> `op
[31 Dec/12:30] <LosGuy> -op
[31 Dec/12:30] @ mode #win98 [+o LosGuy] by Tribble!biged98@chat.eskimo.com
[31 Dec/12:30] @ mode #win98 [+o Azmodan] by LosGuy!~husky21@user-33qtk24.dialup.mindspring.com
[31 Dec/12:31] <huggins> what is error control in the advanced modem settings?
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[31 Dec/12:32] <LosGuy> doh
[31 Dec/12:32] <LosGuy> `op Alt-F4
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[31 Dec/12:36] <Mad^cow> mooooooooooo
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[31 Dec/12:36] <Mad^cow> yeap working
[31 Dec/12:36] <LosGuy> hehe
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[31 Dec/12:36] <LosGuy> automooo?
[31 Dec/12:37] <Flynnt> i got a big problem...
[31 Dec/12:37] <LosGuy> ?
[31 Dec/12:37] <Mad^cow> hahaha
[31 Dec/12:37] <Flynnt> i instaled the drivers for my video card, but windows says they arn't the right ones
[31 Dec/12:38] <Flynnt> and i'm stuck in 640x480x16colours
[31 Dec/12:38] < SignOff: _Socrates!Itsme@modem-88.bandleader.dialup.pol.co.uk (Get NEW °ShowDowN v9.5 PrO° At http://koti.icenet.fi/~julsei/)
[31 Dec/12:38] ! HigHBabE is known as HigH|AwaY
[31 Dec/12:39] <LosGuy> Flynnt does your vid card manufacturer have info on their site?
[31 Dec/12:39] <Flynnt> actully, not any more
[31 Dec/12:39] <Flynnt> S3 took over diamond and killed off the fusion page
[31 Dec/12:39] <LosGuy> nah its still there I belive
[31 Dec/12:39] <Flynnt> its a Diamond Monster Fusion
[31 Dec/12:39] <Flynnt> the page isn't there, its like only vipers
[31 Dec/12:39] <LosGuy> it is just in another section
[31 Dec/12:40] * LosGuy has 5 diamond cards
[31 Dec/12:40] <Flynnt> ok
[31 Dec/12:40] <Flynnt> then what section would it be in/
[31 Dec/12:40] <Mad^cow> diamonds are LosGuy's best friend
[31 Dec/12:40] <LosGuy> I forget what they call it... it makes it sound like they are obsolete..but just means that they are not making the card anymore
[31 Dec/12:41] <Flynnt> if you find it on the page, i'll give you a cookie
[31 Dec/12:41] * LosGuy will never buy another diamond card though
[31 Dec/12:41] * LosGuy dont accept cookies
[31 Dec/12:41] <LosGuy> and certainly not from strangers :P
[31 Dec/12:41] <Flynnt> these drivers are off the fusion install cd
[31 Dec/12:42] <Flynnt> hmmmmmm..... look under graphics
[31 Dec/12:42] * Mad^cow hands LosGuy a vege cracker
[31 Dec/12:42] <Flynnt> do you see the fusion there?
[31 Dec/12:42] * LosGuy is looking around now
[31 Dec/12:43] <LosGuy> monster fusion? yeah
[31 Dec/12:43] <Flynnt> where at then
[31 Dec/12:43] <LosGuy> http://www.diamondmm.com/pg000138.htm
[31 Dec/12:43] <Flynnt> um
[31 Dec/12:44] <Flynnt> brb
[31 Dec/12:44] ! Flynnt is known as Fly[Gone]
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[31 Dec/12:44] <Muerte> hey
[31 Dec/12:44] <LosGuy> yer welcome Flynt
[31 Dec/12:44] <Muerte> I have a small problem
[31 Dec/12:44] <LosGuy> hey what?
[31 Dec/12:44] <Muerte> My comp doesn't recognize a video decompresser what should I do?
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[31 Dec/12:45] <SexyCow> hehehe
[31 Dec/12:45] <LosGuy> find the right codec for it
[31 Dec/12:45] <LosGuy> hehe fluffe`
[31 Dec/12:45] <Muerte> how?
[31 Dec/12:46] <LosGuy> by searching ... try intels site first ... 
[31 Dec/12:46] < SignOff: Mad^cow!~woof@p93-tnt1.akl.ihug.co.nz (washington-r.dc.us.undernet.org toronto.on.ca.undernet.org)
[31 Dec/12:47] <LosGuy> but there are other folks that make codecs...so you just have to look
[31 Dec/12:47] <Muerte> what should I look for "video decompresser?
[31 Dec/12:47] <LosGuy> try "codec"
[31 Dec/12:47] <Muerte> whats that?
[31 Dec/12:48] <LosGuy> its what you need
[31 Dec/12:48] <LosGuy> a codec
[31 Dec/12:48] <LosGuy> the RIGHT codec
[31 Dec/12:48] ! Fly[Gone] is known as Flynnt
[31 Dec/12:49] <Flynnt> LosGuy: how did you get to that page?
[31 Dec/12:49] <Flynnt> what link did you goto off the main one
[31 Dec/12:49] <LosGuy> under graphics
[31 Dec/12:49] <LosGuy> there was a monster fusion link
[31 Dec/12:49] <LosGuy> http://www.diamondmm.com/pg000046.htm
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[31 Dec/11:57] <LosGuy> Flynnt I cant awnser that for you... you are using win98 right? 
[31 Dec/11:58] <Flynnt> yes
[31 Dec/11:58] <LosGuy> try deleting the card and when it detects point it to the right place on the cdrom
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[31 Dec/11:58] <Flynnt> stupid diamond... non resumeable ftp
[31 Dec/11:58] <Flynnt> are they that cheep?
[31 Dec/11:58] <LosGuy> perhaps your trying to use drivers from another OS or such? I dont know
[31 Dec/11:59] <Flynnt> no, Win98 AGP drivers
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[31 Dec/11:59] <LosGuy> try deja.com see if anyone has had your problem then
[31 Dec/12:00] <Flynnt> ok, i'll check there...
[31 Dec/12:01] <Flynnt> but if you noticed, goto www.diamondmm.com, then click on graphics at the top
[31 Dec/12:01] <Flynnt> no monster stuff is there
[31 Dec/12:01] <Flynnt> only viper and speedstar
[31 Dec/12:02] <LosGuy> yeah they are calling alot of stuff legecy now... S3 sux that is why I will not ever buy another diamond card
[31 Dec/12:02] <Flynnt> plus i hate how they don't make drivers for their cards once something new comes along
[31 Dec/12:03] ! HigH_AwaY is known as HigH|AwaY
[31 Dec/12:03] <Flynnt> i found something on the diamond site that i'll try once this download is finished....
[31 Dec/12:04] <Flynnt> well, thanks for all your help
[31 Dec/12:04] <Flynnt> i hope this works
[31 Dec/12:04] <LosGuy> np good luck
[31 Dec/12:05] < SignOff: Flynnt!flynnt@dyn208-28-52-151.win.mnsi.net (Bill Gates is Satan)
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[31 Dec/12:11] <nhobody> when I run certain things like netzero or aol, my computer reboots itself, anyone know why?
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[31 Dec/12:12] <LosGuy> hmm
[31 Dec/12:12] <LosGuy> do you have any other ISPs?
[31 Dec/12:12] <Catfish45> It always does it on those same programs?
[31 Dec/12:12] <DaRkThInG> what happens?
[31 Dec/12:12] <LosGuy> possibly infected with a trojan?
[31 Dec/12:12] <LosGuy> only happens when your online?
[31 Dec/12:13] <DaRkThInG> the connection here is still sucking..
[31 Dec/12:14] <nhobody> agg, sorry losguy
[31 Dec/12:15] <DaRkThInG> i've got the winsock.dll and wsock32.dll files out of the cabs, i've slowed the speed down, i shut ip header compression off (didn't work so it is back on)
[31 Dec/12:15] <nhobody> its when i setup aol, netzero or look at my modem preferances, maybe its my mode,
[31 Dec/12:15] <DaRkThInG> i've swapped cards around
[31 Dec/12:15] <DaRkThInG> checked for line noise it seems to be alright..
[31 Dec/12:15] <LosGuy> I have heard of problems with both AOL and netzero software
[31 Dec/12:15] ! LearyWIRE is known as D_Leary
[31 Dec/12:15] <DaRkThInG> it just slows to a stop....then starts going a gain..
[31 Dec/12:16] <DaRkThInG> when it stops it just stops...wait a minute and its going again, another and its stopped
[31 Dec/12:16] <LosGuy> that could be net congestion even DaRkThInG
[31 Dec/12:16] <nhobody> i know its not a trojan, and i avent been able to get online from that computer
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[31 Dec/12:17] <LosGuy> hardware can also cause reboots (usually due to NICs in my experience)
[31 Dec/12:17] <nhobody> how do i correct this problem?
[31 Dec/12:18] <LosGuy> DaRkThInG try 56K.com 
[31 Dec/12:18] <DaRkThInG> this isn't just slowing down...a complete halt..pages aren't available that where..irc connection drops..that sort of thing
[31 Dec/12:18] <DaRkThInG> somtimes the entire connection goes
[31 Dec/12:19] <LosGuy> hmm hardware or software conflicts?
[31 Dec/12:20] <nhobody> should i reinstall my modem losguy?
[31 Dec/12:20] ! ^AnG3L^ is known as ^AnG|afk
[31 Dec/12:20] <LosGuy> what is happening to your system resources when this happesn DaRkThInG?
[31 Dec/12:20] <DaRkThInG> Ping statistics for 207.96.122.250:
[31 Dec/12:20] <DaRkThInG>     Packets: Sent = 26, Received = 25, Lost = 1 (3% loss),
[31 Dec/12:20] <DaRkThInG> Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
[31 Dec/12:20] <DaRkThInG>     Minimum = 131ms, Maximum =  1127ms, Average =  176ms
[31 Dec/12:20] <LosGuy> nhobody.. uh I dunno
[31 Dec/12:21] <DaRkThInG> i've never watched my resources..
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[31 Dec/12:21] <LosGuy> that is not great (horrid if you have cable or dsl though)
[31 Dec/12:21] <DaRkThInG> 56k
[31 Dec/12:21] <LosGuy> it is livable
[31 Dec/12:21] <LosGuy> not great
[31 Dec/12:21] <DaRkThInG> i was getting 25% packet loss earlier..
[31 Dec/12:21] <LosGuy> look at yer tracert and see if you can see where
[31 Dec/12:22] <LosGuy> DaRkThInG but that is due to your route... a backbone might be dropping packets etc
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[31 Dec/12:23] <DaRkThInG> tracert worked fine..
[31 Dec/12:23] <DaRkThInG> out of the blue it just stops...the lights in the systray stop blinking and such
[31 Dec/12:24] <LosGuy> but that tells us very little DaRkThInG... this should be taken up with your ISP
[31 Dec/12:24] <LosGuy> and they will tell you to check your lines.....
[31 Dec/12:25] <LosGuy> you can tell them you have
[31 Dec/12:25] <LosGuy> etc
[31 Dec/12:25] <DaRkThInG> hah tried that..
[31 Dec/12:25] <DaRkThInG> all they say is line noise
[31 Dec/12:25] <DaRkThInG> and they told me to check it..
[31 Dec/12:25] <LosGuy> I have yet to see an ISP take credit for problems)
[31 Dec/12:25] <DaRkThInG> i will have the phone company check the line on monday given the phones work..
[31 Dec/12:26] <LosGuy> phones working and them being able to carry data are two different things
[31 Dec/12:26] <DaRkThInG> would a bad modem cause a prob like that?
[31 Dec/12:26] <LosGuy> not dropped packetes and high ping times
[31 Dec/12:26] <DaRkThInG> i was refering to y2k...
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[31 Dec/12:27] <LosGuy> y2k? where did that come from?
[31 Dec/12:28] <DaRkThInG> monday given the phones work..
[31 Dec/12:28] <LosGuy> ahh
[31 Dec/12:28] * LosGuy thinks that they will
[31 Dec/12:28] <LosGuy> in the US anyway
[31 Dec/12:29] <DaRkThInG> well i will have them come out and check...
[31 Dec/12:29] <LosGuy> tell them yer having trouble faxing
[31 Dec/12:29] <DaRkThInG> so you don't think the modem could be on the fritz?
[31 Dec/12:29] <LosGuy> (they dont care about your internet usually)
[31 Dec/12:30] <LosGuy> unlikely... but I suppose it could
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[31 Dec/12:31] <LosGuy> the data you have given me (poor ping / dropped packets) occur outside of your computer
[31 Dec/12:31] <DaRkThInG> i have a US 33.6 in my older computer here..it doesn't do half as bad..
[31 Dec/12:31] <DaRkThInG> USR
[31 Dec/12:32] <LosGuy> is your other modem a winmodem (on the box with problems?)
[31 Dec/12:32] <drwho1> is anyone know anything about microsoft Access
[31 Dec/12:32] <DaRkThInG> it stays on IRC for days...this one is lucky to stay on an hour..
[31 Dec/12:32] <drwho1> oops
[31 Dec/12:32] <drwho1> does
[31 Dec/12:32] <DaRkThInG> neither are winmodems
[31 Dec/12:33] <LosGuy> dunno.. 
[31 Dec/12:33] <LosGuy> check out 56k.com
[31 Dec/12:33] <DaRkThInG> been there done that..
[31 Dec/12:33] <LosGuy> k
[31 Dec/12:33] <LosGuy> not I drwho1
[31 Dec/12:33] <DaRkThInG> what do you need to know Dr who?
[31 Dec/12:35] <drwho1> reports -  I'm trying  to get any individual report on something, but as you can only choose from table entities the report only gives  any  overall report
[31 Dec/12:36] <DaRkThInG> i'm not sure...its been a few years since i've used access
[31 Dec/12:36] <drwho1> e.g. I want to get a report on a car capacities and all the models associated with that, not all the  capacities and their models
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[31 Dec/12:51] <DaRkThInG> [18:41] *** [10054] Connection reset by peer
[31 Dec/12:51] <DaRkThInG> -
[31 Dec/12:51] <DaRkThInG> [18:41] *** Disconnected
[31 Dec/12:51] <DaRkThInG> thats what happesn all the time doh
[31 Dec/12:52] <LosGuy> just from IRC or from your ISP?
[31 Dec/12:52] <DaRkThInG> that was just from IRC...
[31 Dec/12:52] <DaRkThInG> sometimes it does both..
[31 Dec/12:52] <LosGuy> do you use a firewall?
[31 Dec/12:52] <DaRkThInG> i've used one...it does the same thing through a firewall
[31 Dec/12:52] <LosGuy> if you use a firewall and block the IRC server pings that will happen ... ALOT
[31 Dec/12:54] <DaRkThInG> theres no reason for it to be blocked now...i have no firewall
[31 Dec/12:54] <LosGuy> still sounds like network and not you
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[31 Dec/13:05] <timbo> yo LosGuy
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[31 Dec/13:06] <pyrokiwi> sorry 
[31 Dec/13:06] <pyrokiwi> thats better
[31 Dec/13:06] <LosGuy> hi
[31 Dec/13:06] <pyrokiwi> that was fun
[31 Dec/13:06] <pyrokiwi> we stuffed internet access
[31 Dec/13:06] <pyrokiwi> went through isp help line 
[31 Dec/13:06] <pyrokiwi> 4 times
[31 Dec/13:06] <pyrokiwi> then fixed it ourselves
[31 Dec/13:06] <LosGuy> kewl
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[31 Dec/13:08] <pyrokiwi> there "senior tech is gonna call on 4th
[31 Dec/13:08] <pyrokiwi> so we can tell him we fixed it ourselves :)
[31 Dec/13:08] <LosGuy> you cant email to cancell the call/
[31 Dec/13:08] <pyrokiwi> nope
[31 Dec/13:08] <LosGuy> opps ?
[31 Dec/13:09] <pyrokiwi> opps ?
[31 Dec/13:09] <LosGuy> typed / mean ?
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[31 Dec/13:09] <pyrokiwi> i might ring later i just rang and got put on hold 4 AGES
[31 Dec/13:09] <Tara2x> Hi
[31 Dec/13:09] <pyrokiwi> hiya
[31 Dec/13:09] <Tara2x> I have a simple problem that is driving me crazy.
[31 Dec/13:09] <LosGuy> hmm simple problems rarely are
[31 Dec/13:10] <pyrokiwi> lol what is it?
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[31 Dec/13:10] <Tara2x> I just put Office 2000 on and now my Outlook Express contacts are all gone. Outlook Express and Outlook used to share the same contacts.
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[31 Dec/13:10] <Tara2x> It's a major pain to email my friends now.
[31 Dec/13:11] * LosGuy doesnt use outlook
[31 Dec/13:11] <Tara2x> I can't figure out how to get the two to share again. 
[31 Dec/13:11] <LosGuy> or O2k for that matter
[31 Dec/13:11] * pyrokiwi uses netscape
[31 Dec/13:11] <Tara2x> rats
[31 Dec/13:11] <LosGuy> can take a quick peek around
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[31 Dec/13:12] <Tara2x> MS's Help says the two can but then doesn't say how to set it up!
[31 Dec/13:12] <LosGuy> hey ree Elysian
[31 Dec/13:12] <Tara2x> thnx LosGuy
[31 Dec/13:12] <reebok> hey
[31 Dec/13:13] <Elysian> hi
[31 Dec/13:13] <LosGuy> http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q218/3/39.ASP?LNG=ENG&SA=PER  <=== read that?
[31 Dec/13:13] <Tara2x> i'll look ..brb
[31 Dec/13:14] <Elysian> ree: want a mp3 i made a couplo days ago?
[31 Dec/13:14] <Elysian> `up
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[31 Dec/13:14] <reebok> what isi t?
[31 Dec/13:14] <reebok> woah
[31 Dec/13:14] <reebok> what is it?
[31 Dec/13:14] <Elysian> its me playing guitar
[31 Dec/13:14] <reebok> what song?
[31 Dec/13:15] <Elysian> dunno
[31 Dec/13:15] <Elysian> made it up
[31 Dec/13:15] <LosGuy> Tara2x also look here http://search.support.microsoft.com/kb/psssearch.asp?SPR=out2K&T=B&KT=ALL&T1=7d&LQ=Outlook+Express+contacts&S=F&A=T&DU=C&FR=0&D=VBA2000%2Bor%2Bolexpress%2Bor%2Bol20%2Bor%2Bof20%2Bor%2Bexchange&LPR=2000&LNG=ENG&VR=http%3A%2F%2Fsupport.microsoft.com%2Fsupport&CAT=Support&VRL=ENG&SA=PER&Go.x=19&Go.y=19
[31 Dec/13:15] <LosGuy> or more specficly... http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q196/2/15.ASP?LNG=ENG&SA=PER
[31 Dec/13:15] <reebok> ok
[31 Dec/13:15] <Elysian> ok hold on a sec
[31 Dec/13:16] <Elysian> i can't figure out what is making it go so slow
[31 Dec/13:16] <Elysian> i set the packet size to 4096...
[31 Dec/13:16] <Elysian> and am on at 49.2k
[31 Dec/13:16] <Elysian> or 49333
[31 Dec/13:17] <Elysian> its going faster to you than anyone else to
[31 Dec/13:17] <Elysian> tho
[31 Dec/13:18] <reebok> hehe
[31 Dec/13:18] <Elysian> i got Voyetra Music Theory Prog today at virgin megastores... had a $25 gift certificate
[31 Dec/13:18] <reebok> voyetra
[31 Dec/13:18] <reebok> they've been around a while
[31 Dec/13:18] <Elysian> wow its above 2k a sec
[31 Dec/13:19] <Elysian> yeah i know
[31 Dec/13:19] <reebok> I'm 18 hops with minor packet loss
[31 Dec/13:19] <Elysian> we still have a copy of audiostation 2.0:)
[31 Dec/13:19] <Elysian> and 3.0
[31 Dec/13:19] <reebok> I remember that
[31 Dec/13:19] <reebok> it was awesome
[31 Dec/13:19] <Elysian> 18 hops? i'm lost
[31 Dec/13:19] <Elysian> 3.0 was better:)
[31 Dec/13:19] <LosGuy> hehe
[31 Dec/13:19] <reebok> I did a treacert, but does dcc take a diff route?
[31 Dec/13:19] <reebok> tracert even
[31 Dec/13:19] <LosGuy> no
[31 Dec/13:19] <reebok> ok
[31 Dec/13:19] <Elysian> i always thought it was normal like all other sends
[31 Dec/13:20] <Elysian> wow... 2.1k a sec
[31 Dec/13:20] <Elysian> and its done
[31 Dec/13:20] <Elysian> now listen!:)
[31 Dec/13:20] <reebok> ok
[31 Dec/13:20] ! pyrokiwi is known as pyroaway
[31 Dec/13:20] <reebok> 13738184
[31 Dec/13:21] <reebok> how did you record it so well?
[31 Dec/13:22] <Elysian> cakewalk pro audio 9 and direct mic in
[31 Dec/13:22] <Elysian> :)
[31 Dec/13:22] <reebok> cool
[31 Dec/13:22] <Elysian> the effects were all done by cakewalk.... no pedals whatsoever....
[31 Dec/13:23] <reebok> cool
[31 Dec/13:23] <Elysian> wow... 19.95 on the voyetra site, but 17.95 at virgin megastores:)
[31 Dec/13:24] <Elysian> <<ÐêtóÑ8®>> Ping reply for LosGuy: 7 Sec
[31 Dec/13:24] <Elysian> [LosGuy PING reply]: 7 secs
[31 Dec/13:25] <reebok>  <<ÐêtóÑ8®>> Ping reply for Elysian: 1 Sec
[31 Dec/13:25] <reebok>  <<ÐêtóÑ8®>> Ping reply for LosGuy: 1 Sec
[31 Dec/13:25] <LosGuy>  <<ÐêtóÑ8®>> Ping reply for reebok: 1 Sec  <<ÐêtóÑ8®>> Ping reply for Elysian: 4 Sec
[31 Dec/13:26] <Tara2x> That first article resoved the prob. Thnx.  How did you find that article?
[31 Dec/13:26] <LosGuy> just searched Tara2x
[31 Dec/13:26] ! Buzzz is known as MoZoD
[31 Dec/13:26] <Tara2x> Yeah, how and where?
[31 Dec/13:27] <LosGuy> MS site and I posted the hits (the really long URL above)
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[31 Dec/13:27] <Tara2x> microsoft.com?
[31 Dec/13:27] <LosGuy> yeah
[31 Dec/13:28] <Tara2x> Well, good job. Thanks again.  
[31 Dec/13:28] <jman321> Does anyone know if there is a limit to the nuber of accounts Outlook Express 4.72 can hold?
[31 Dec/13:28] <Elysian> not sure
[31 Dec/13:28] <Tara2x> G'night all.
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[31 Dec/13:28] <Elysian> i gots 123 mp3's in my music dir under napster
[31 Dec/13:29] <reebok> napster rules
[31 Dec/13:29] <Elysian> yeah
[31 Dec/13:29] * LosGuy has no idea.. I dont use outlook
[31 Dec/13:31] <Elysian> ree: you like my mp3?
[31 Dec/13:31] <reebok> yeah that was cool
[31 Dec/13:32] <reebok> esp the recording quality
[31 Dec/13:32] <Elysian> cool
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[31 Dec/13:43] <CJ^> ARRRggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
[31 Dec/13:43] <LosGuy> why?
[31 Dec/13:44] <reebok> what?
[31 Dec/13:44] <CJ^> bought dad Windows 98 doe Dummies
[31 Dec/13:44] <LosGuy> hehehehe
[31 Dec/13:44] <CJ^> calls me up and ask "Wher in teh book does it cover.... blah blah blah...."
[31 Dec/13:44] <reebok> was it embarrinsing checking out?
[31 Dec/13:44] <reebok> hahahahaha
[31 Dec/13:44] <LosGuy> well you DaMan 
[31 Dec/13:44] <reebok> yep
[31 Dec/13:44] <CJ^> worse...
[31 Dec/13:44] <CJ^> gets worse
[31 Dec/13:45] <CJ^> he gave my phone number out the family....
[31 Dec/13:45] <reebok> oh my
[31 Dec/13:45] <reebok> that sucks sooo bad
[31 Dec/13:45] <Elysian> ack
[31 Dec/13:45] <reebok> I know the feeling
[31 Dec/13:45] <CJ^> now..
[31 Dec/13:45] <Elysian> :
[31 Dec/13:45] <LosGuy> your family doesnt already have your home phone #?
[31 Dec/13:45] <reebok> ehehehehe
[31 Dec/13:45] <CJ^> i got three cals from cousins i havent spoken to in 8 years +
[31 Dec/13:45] <LosGuy> ahh
[31 Dec/13:45] <reebok> *snicker*
[31 Dec/13:45] <CJ^> well i mena.. Family.. way extended..
[31 Dec/13:45] <Elysian> i'm not gonna give my family my fone number:)
[31 Dec/13:45] <LosGuy> well they know your the windows for dummies expert!
[31 Dec/13:45] <CJ^> :P
[31 Dec/13:45] <CJ^> nope
[31 Dec/13:46] <CJ^> they called..
[31 Dec/13:46] <reebok> fifth cousin thrice removed
[31 Dec/13:46] <CJ^> told em... 
[31 Dec/13:46] <Elysian> this song kicks... Crazy Little Thing Called Love
[31 Dec/13:46] <CJ^> www.geocities.com/~budallen
[31 Dec/13:46] <LosGuy> queen
[31 Dec/13:46] ! Roulette_ is known as Roulette
[31 Dec/13:46] <CJ^> Boehimian Rahpsody
[31 Dec/13:46] <reebok> buds da man too
[31 Dec/13:46] <Elysian> thats whats on now
[31 Dec/13:46] <LosGuy> excellent song
[31 Dec/13:47] <LosGuy> freddy had the most awesome voice
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[31 Dec/13:47] <Elysian> its a bad shame he died
[31 Dec/13:47] <Elysian> and was gay!:)
[31 Dec/13:47] <Trebas> OK..can someone help me with WIN98 SE ICS?!?!
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[31 Dec/13:47] <Trebas> PLZ!
[31 Dec/13:48] <alveolo> hi
[31 Dec/13:48] <Elysian> `voice *
[31 Dec/13:48] @ mode #win98 [+vvvvvv alveolo Trebas reebok CJ^ Catfish45 Azmodan] by Athena_!itsnotme@ppp35.US-GOVT.org
[31 Dec/13:48] @ mode #win98 [+v Aphrodite] by Athena_!itsnotme@ppp35.US-GOVT.org
[31 Dec/13:48] <reebok> www.sygate.com solves ics problems
[31 Dec/13:48] <LosGuy> only if you stop shouting
[31 Dec/13:48] <Elysian> `op Aphrodite
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[31 Dec/13:48] <Trebas> OK...
[31 Dec/13:48] <reebok> that was an accident right wly?
[31 Dec/13:48] <reebok> ely even
[31 Dec/13:48] <Elysian> ?
[31 Dec/13:48] <LosGuy> `deop reebok
[31 Dec/13:48] <LosGuy> doh
[31 Dec/13:48] <reebok> close los
[31 Dec/13:48] <reebok> heheheh
[31 Dec/13:48] @ mode #win98 [-v reebok] by LosGuy!~husky21@user-33qtk24.dialup.mindspring.com
[31 Dec/13:48] <alveolo> hello....any one here up to a challange?
[31 Dec/13:48] <reebok> thanks
[31 Dec/13:48] <LosGuy> np
[31 Dec/13:49] <reebok> no but I'd like to see a challenge
[31 Dec/13:49] <LosGuy> alveolo if you have a question just ask and if someone can help they will
[31 Dec/13:49] <alveolo> heheh   my english is a bit limmited sorry
[31 Dec/13:49] <reebok> ;)
[31 Dec/13:50] <alveolo> i know.. im just traing to make i bit diferent  thats all
[31 Dec/13:50] <Trebas> LOSGUY: OK..I can ping both computer but can't get the net to work. And also from the CLIENT PC and I can ping net addresses. 
[31 Dec/13:50] <reebok> net = internet or file sharing?
[31 Dec/13:50] <LosGuy> Trebas step one is getting your network to work
[31 Dec/13:50] <Trebas> LOSGUY: OK..network works!
[31 Dec/13:51] <alveolo> ok wen i turn the pc off i get a msgr32 secure fault notice...what is it?
[31 Dec/13:51] <LosGuy> Trebas kill the caps
[31 Dec/13:51] <Trebas> OK...help me.
[31 Dec/13:51] <reebok> are you sure it says exactly msgr32?
[31 Dec/13:51] <reebok> trebas: net = internet or file sharing?
[31 Dec/13:51] <alveolo> let me check\
[31 Dec/13:52] ! DaRkThInG is known as DarkAFK
[31 Dec/13:52] <Trebas> reebok: internet sharing using ICS of win98SE
[31 Dec/13:52] <reebok> so in other words, IE won't open web sites
[31 Dec/13:52] <reebok> correct?
[31 Dec/13:52] <Trebas> correct.
[31 Dec/13:52] <reebok> ok
[31 Dec/13:52] <LosGuy> does the other computer have dialup networking installed?
[31 Dec/13:52] <Trebas> Ya.
[31 Dec/13:52] <LosGuy> (the client)
[31 Dec/13:52] <reebok> is IE set to use LAN?
[31 Dec/13:53] <LosGuy> you dont need that delete it
[31 Dec/13:53] <Trebas> Well...I'm assuming..how do I know for sure?
[31 Dec/13:53] <CJ^> http://www.helmig.com/j_helmig/icsw98se.htm   <<< look there
[31 Dec/13:53] <LosGuy> in control panel / internet / connections tab
[31 Dec/13:53] <reebok> helmig helmig
[31 Dec/13:53] <LosGuy> or just run the connection wizard again
[31 Dec/13:53] <CJ^> !HELMIG ROCKS BEBBE!!
[31 Dec/13:53] <reebok> hehe
[31 Dec/13:53] <LosGuy> it is a good site
[31 Dec/13:54] <alveolo> msgsrv32 is what it shoows
[31 Dec/13:54] <CJ^> i think im gonn go claim it..
[31 Dec/13:54] <reebok> msgsrv32 did what alv?
[31 Dec/13:55] <alveolo> general protection error
[31 Dec/13:55] <reebok> Err Msg: Msgsrv32 Caused a General Protection Fault in Module...
[31 Dec/13:55] <reebok> that?
[31 Dec/13:55] <alveolo> yep
[31 Dec/13:55] <reebok> ok
[31 Dec/13:55] <reebok> http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q222/6/29.ASP?LNG=ENG&SA=ALLKB
[31 Dec/13:55] <reebok> go look at that
[31 Dec/13:55] <alveolo> ok thanks a million
[31 Dec/13:55] <reebok> ok np
[31 Dec/13:56] <LosGuy> http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q222/6/29.ASP?LNG=ENG&SA=PER or there
[31 Dec/13:56] <reebok> how did you search los?
[31 Dec/13:57] <reebok> I can't make it say per
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[31 Dec/13:57] <LosGuy> used key words: Msgsrv32 Caused a General Protection Fault in Module
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[31 Dec/13:57] <Elysian1> hmm odd
[31 Dec/13:57] <LosGuy> wb g33k
[31 Dec/13:57] <Elysian1> it just disconnected itself
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[31 Dec/13:57] <reebok> hmm
[31 Dec/13:57] <LosGuy> wanna see it happnen again?
[31 Dec/13:57] <reebok> I still can't get it
[31 Dec/13:57] <reebok> hahahha
[31 Dec/13:58] ! Elysian1 is known as Elysian
[31 Dec/14:00] <Elysian> i was downloading stuff too:(
[31 Dec/14:02] <alveolo> well reebok  you R' a G"news
[31 Dec/14:02] <LosGuy> doh
[31 Dec/14:02] * LosGuy thinks Elysian is lagged
[31 Dec/14:02] <LosGuy>  <<ÐêtóÑ8®>> Ping reply for Elysian: 151 Sec
[31 Dec/14:02] <CJ^> ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[31 Dec/14:02] <reebok> nah just got lucky on a search
[31 Dec/14:02] <Elysian> [Elysian PING]
[31 Dec/14:02] <Elysian>  <<ÐêtóÑ8®>> Your lag is: 3 Sec
[31 Dec/14:02] <Elysian> [Elysian PING reply]: 3 secs
[31 Dec/14:03] <reebok> better now
[31 Dec/14:03] <reebok> like 5
[31 Dec/14:03] <CJ^>  <<ÐêtóÑ8®>> Ping reply for Elysian: 50 Sec
[31 Dec/14:03] <Elysian> ok
[31 Dec/14:03] <Elysian> it was the news ticker
[31 Dec/14:03] <reebok> so ely
[31 Dec/14:03] <Elysian> [LosGuy PING]
[31 Dec/14:03] <reebok> you have the same IP twice?
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[31 Dec/14:03] <Elysian> [CJ^ PING]
[31 Dec/14:03] <LosGuy> yeah  <<ÐêtóÑ8®>> Ping reply for Elysian: 5 Sec
[31 Dec/14:03] <CJ^> <<ÐêtóÑ8®>> Ping reply for Elysian: 7 Sec
[31 Dec/14:03] <Elysian> whqat do you mean have the same ip twice?
[31 Dec/14:03] <Elysian> doh
[31 Dec/14:03] <reebok> I thought you said you said it set it to 192 and you set another one to that
[31 Dec/14:04] <reebok> say that 3 times fast
[31 Dec/14:04] <Elysian> my icq couldn't direct connect to you ree:)
[31 Dec/14:04] <reebok> hehe
[31 Dec/14:04] <Elysian> ree: no it was 192.168.0.1 for the ics thing and i set it to that on the other comp
[31 Dec/14:04] <Elysian> woohoo 4.3k a second on download of Another one Bites the Dust
[31 Dec/14:04] <reebok> it still sounds like ics set the hiost to 192.1 and you set the client to 192.1 as well
[31 Dec/14:05] <reebok> another one rides the bus
[31 Dec/14:05] <Elysian> oh
[31 Dec/14:05] <Elysian> so should i make the ip on the other comp 192.168.0.2?
[31 Dec/14:05] <Elysian> hehe
[31 Dec/14:05] <Elysian> weird al kicks
[31 Dec/14:05] <LosGuy> yes
[31 Dec/14:05] <reebok> yes client should be .2
[31 Dec/14:05] <reebok> host .1
[31 Dec/14:05] <alveolo> well im off now   thanks 4 your help and time
[31 Dec/14:05] <reebok> yeah he does
[31 Dec/14:05] <reebok> later alv
[31 Dec/14:05] <LosGuy> or dynamic on client
[31 Dec/14:06] <alveolo> c u reebok
[31 Dec/14:06] <reebok> later
[31 Dec/14:06] <Elysian> oh
[31 Dec/14:06] <Elysian> DHCP
[31 Dec/14:06] <Elysian> ?
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[31 Dec/14:06] <Elysian> ok
[31 Dec/14:06] <reebok> I think it might worl like that
[31 Dec/14:06] <Elysian> i will try that
[31 Dec/14:06] * Elysian is turning on the other comp
[31 Dec/14:06] <LosGuy> I have found it easy to use with dynamic client
[31 Dec/14:06] <reebok> I like hard cosing it myself, but it should work I think
[31 Dec/14:07] * Elysian will be waiting ten minutes for it to boot, but thats ok:)
[31 Dec/14:07] <LosGuy> but have done both ways
[31 Dec/14:07] <reebok> hey los
[31 Dec/14:07] <reebok> any idea?
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[31 Dec/14:07] <CJ^> gone
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[31 Dec/14:07] <reebok> o that was cool
[31 Dec/14:08] <Elysian> ?
[31 Dec/14:08] <reebok> gone
[31 Dec/14:08] <reebok> and boom
[31 Dec/14:08] <reebok> I like that
[31 Dec/14:09] <Elysian> http://www.slate.com/diary/99-12-20/diary.asp
[31 Dec/14:10] <Elysian> this is pretty weird sorta
[31 Dec/14:10] <Elysian> mentions those chinese idiots that wore cowboy hats and thought god would appear on TV in march 98
[31 Dec/14:10] <Elysian> heh
[31 Dec/14:12] <Elysian> ahh another christian fanatic that misinterpreted revelations:)
[31 Dec/14:12] <Elysian> Kenna E. Farris, a 74-year-old Missouri man, believes he has been designated by God as "the Forerunner Prophet of the Apocalypse."
[31 Dec/14:12] <reebok> ely
[31 Dec/14:12] <Elysian> This is a big year for him: He's convinced that in 2000, Jesus will sneak back to Earth in a UFO, capture Satan, take him away to bind him in chains, and inaugurate a 1,000-year period of peace that will stop on or around 3,000 with the end of the world. Sadly, Farris is convinced he'll be slain this year--as one of the Two Witnesses mentioned in the Book of Revelation, this is his fated role.
[31 Dec/14:12] <reebok> icq me a file
[31 Dec/14:12] <reebok> anything
[31 Dec/14:12] <Elysian> ok
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[31 Dec/14:13] <Elysian> Waiting for Other Side to Respond
[31 Dec/14:13] <Trebas> What happened?
[31 Dec/14:13] <Elysian> oh
[31 Dec/14:13] <Elysian> ok
[31 Dec/14:14] <Trebas> Losguy?
[31 Dec/14:14] <Elysian> ?
[31 Dec/14:14] <Elysian> the world ended!:)
[31 Dec/14:14] <Elysian> ree: what was that bout?
[31 Dec/14:14] <reebok> a test
[31 Dec/14:15] ! Grem|in is known as fire^fish
[31 Dec/14:15] <Elysian> Bob and Zoh Hieronimus, from suburban Maryland, believe in the Earth Changes--basically, the idea that the planet is serving up an escalating series of natural disasters to slim down the human population. (It's our fault: We've treated her badly and the bill is coming due.)
[31 Dec/14:15] ! fire^fish is known as Grem|in
[31 Dec/14:15] ! Grem|in is known as fire^fish
[31 Dec/14:15] <reebok> you know it's interesting you should say that
[31 Dec/14:16] <reebok> we were talking about a caring capacity in class the other week
[31 Dec/14:16] <Elysian> hehe
[31 Dec/14:16] <Elysian> Environmental Science?
[31 Dec/14:16] <reebok> oceanography
[31 Dec/14:16] <reebok> enivro science is next semester
[31 Dec/14:17] <Elysian> oh
[31 Dec/14:17] <Elysian> heh
[31 Dec/14:17] <Elysian> so
[31 Dec/14:17] <Elysian> ?
[31 Dec/14:17] <reebok> it corresponds with what you said
[31 Dec/14:18] <Elysian> oh
[31 Dec/14:18] <Elysian> :)
[31 Dec/14:18] <Elysian> Fat Bottomed girls you make the rockin world go round!:)
[31 Dec/14:18] <LosGuy> back
[31 Dec/14:18] <LosGuy> not my favorite
[31 Dec/14:18] <LosGuy> I like killer queen 
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[31 Dec/14:19] <Elysian> oh yeah?
[31 Dec/14:19] <Elysian> i'll check that one out
[31 Dec/14:19] <LosGuy> but bohiemina rhapsody... gotta be the all time fav
[31 Dec/14:20] <LosGuy> doh +n
[31 Dec/14:20] <reebok> I'm gonna get that
[31 Dec/14:20] <Elysian> heh
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[31 Dec/14:20] <Elysian> everyone likes that one
[31 Dec/14:20] <Elysian> i think cause it was on waynesworld:)
[31 Dec/14:20] <LosGuy> NO
[31 Dec/14:20] <LosGuy> cuz it is a great song
[31 Dec/14:20] <LosGuy> hehe
[31 Dec/14:20] <Elysian> hehe
[31 Dec/14:20] <Elysian> former Beatle Stabbed...
[31 Dec/14:20] <LosGuy> way before waynes world
[31 Dec/14:20] <Elysian> http://www.msnbc.com/msn/351621.asp
[31 Dec/14:21] <LosGuy> yeah George 
[31 Dec/14:21] <Elysian> George Harrison 
[31 Dec/14:21] <LosGuy> he is OK though
[31 Dec/14:21] <reebok> I saw that this morning
[31 Dec/14:21] <Elysian> yeah
[31 Dec/14:21] * Trebas GOT HIS ICS WOPRKING THX ALL!
[31 Dec/14:21] <LosGuy> keewl Tribble
[31 Dec/14:21] <LosGuy> doh Trebas
[31 Dec/14:21] <Trebas> hehe..later. I'll be back again...don't you worry. :)
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[31 Dec/14:23] * LosGuy sets mode +b *!*ask.me@*.wave.home.com
[31 Dec/14:23] <reebok> someone on a 14.4 is getting a song from me
[31 Dec/14:23] <reebok> hehe
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[31 Dec/14:27] <Elysian> :(
[31 Dec/14:27] <Elysian> pulled the power on my comp:(
[31 Dec/14:27] <reebok> heheheh
[31 Dec/14:27] <Elysian> came outta my surge protector:(
[31 Dec/14:27] <Elysian> but
[31 Dec/14:28] <Elysian> now am in win2k server
[31 Dec/14:28] <Elysian> :)
[31 Dec/14:28] * Elysian is waiting for dinner to finish re heating:)
[31 Dec/14:28] <Elysian> leftovers... gotsa love em
[31 Dec/14:28] <reebok> cool
[31 Dec/14:29] <Elysian> doh
[31 Dec/14:29] <Elysian> it won't let my little bros comp do dhcp
[31 Dec/14:29] <Elysian> :(
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[31 Dec/14:29] <Elysian> its grayed out
[31 Dec/14:29] <Elysian> hi mrgone
[31 Dec/14:29] <mrgone> hey
[31 Dec/14:30] <mrgone> i will not let this auction slip away... even if the bid is up to 82$
[31 Dec/14:30] <LosGuy> hehe mrgone
[31 Dec/14:33] <Elysian> brb
[31 Dec/14:33] <Elysian> food
[31 Dec/14:33] <Elysian> calls me
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[31 Dec/14:34] <COO-MAN> good evening ever e one
[31 Dec/14:34] <Elysian> hi
[31 Dec/14:34] <COO-MAN> :)
[31 Dec/14:34] <LosGuy> hi COO-MAN
[31 Dec/14:34] <COO-MAN> hey loster!
[31 Dec/14:34] <COO-MAN> so, what's up? 
[31 Dec/14:34] <COO-MAN> slow in here eh?
[31 Dec/14:35] <Elysian> yah
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[31 Dec/14:35] <COO-MAN> by chance, does anyone in here work at at a manufacturing facility of computers?
[31 Dec/14:35] <COO-MAN> I have a q
[31 Dec/14:35] <LosGuy> yeah
[31 Dec/14:35] <COO-MAN> about burn in
[31 Dec/14:35] <COO-MAN> who los?
[31 Dec/14:35] <LosGuy> slow
[31 Dec/14:35] <COO-MAN> oh :)
[31 Dec/14:35] <COO-MAN> hehe
[31 Dec/14:35] <COO-MAN> and lagged? :)
[31 Dec/14:36] <LosGuy> no I am slow too hehe
[31 Dec/14:36] <COO-MAN> hahahah
[31 Dec/14:36] <reebok> what the heck
[31 Dec/14:36] <reebok> is this bohemian rhapsody stuff
[31 Dec/14:36] <LosGuy> ask Ed ... I have a new system that I will finish tonight and need to burn in also
[31 Dec/15:36] <LosGuy> it is queen at their best
[31 Dec/15:36] <COO-MAN> I'm wanting to find the "real" way
[31 Dec/15:36] <mrgone> burn in is for the processor or the motherboard?
[31 Dec/15:36] <COO-MAN> like server burn in with Rack Mount
[31 Dec/15:36] <LosGuy> yeah mrgone
[31 Dec/15:36] <COO-MAN> mr:  as much as possible
[31 Dec/15:37] <mrgone> if you increase the voltage 10% will it make a better burn in?
[31 Dec/15:37] <reebok> I'd hate to here their worst
[31 Dec/15:37] <LosGuy> doh
[31 Dec/15:37] ! MissNasty is known as nasty\afk
[31 Dec/15:37] <COO-MAN> yeah, if you put 220 on it it will burn in alright :) LOL
[31 Dec/15:37] <LosGuy> just for that I may buy ANOTHER vid card ... tonight
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[31 Dec/15:37] <mrgone> oh shush los
[31 Dec/15:37] <Elysian> hmm
[31 Dec/15:37] <LosGuy> hehe
[31 Dec/15:38] <Elysian> my mech doesn't like my password
[31 Dec/15:38] <mrgone> your unbalancing my concentration
[31 Dec/15:38] * LosGuy wouldnt even think of doing that
[31 Dec/15:38] * LosGuy tries
[31 Dec/15:38] <mrgone> i have an hour to prepare
[31 Dec/15:38] <LosGuy> if so I can fix it for you Elysian
[31 Dec/15:38] <Elysian> and when i look in the emech.users the passwords are all number and letter characters
[31 Dec/15:38] <LosGuy> -say
[31 Dec/15:38] <LosGuy> `say
[31 Dec/15:38] <Elysian> its gone
[31 Dec/15:38] <Elysian> brb
[31 Dec/15:38] <Elysian> gotsa eat
[31 Dec/15:39] <LosGuy> doh
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[31 Dec/15:41] <Elysian> ok back
[31 Dec/15:42] <Elysian> little snack really
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[31 Dec/15:42] <Elysian> hi det
[31 Dec/15:42] <Elysian> hows version 4 comin?
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[31 Dec/15:52] <djmixalot> ne1 here know where i can get the file setupx.dll
[31 Dec/15:52] <LosGuy> for?
[31 Dec/15:53] <djmixalot> win98
[31 Dec/15:53] <LosGuy> use SFC and extract it from your win98 cdrom
[31 Dec/15:53] <reebok> oh
[31 Dec/15:53] <reebok> I have an idea
[31 Dec/15:53] <reebok> ok los stole it
[31 Dec/15:53] <LosGuy> hehe
[31 Dec/15:53] <djmixalot> SFC where can u get that
[31 Dec/15:54] <reebok> somewhere around start, run
[31 Dec/15:54] <Elysian> off your hdd
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[31 Dec/15:54] <LosGuy> start / run / type sfc and run it and tell it to extract a single file
[31 Dec/15:54] <LosGuy> it goes in C:\windows\system 
[31 Dec/15:54] <LosGuy> but SFC should know that
[31 Dec/15:55] <djmixalot> can one of u's send it
[31 Dec/15:55] <Elysian> nope
[31 Dec/15:55] <LosGuy> no
[31 Dec/15:55] <reebok> who didn't see that coming
[31 Dec/15:55] <LosGuy> read the topic
[31 Dec/15:55] <Elysian> read topic
[31 Dec/15:55] <LosGuy> no files
[31 Dec/15:55] * LosGuy does NOT raise his hand hehe
[31 Dec/15:55] <reebok> hehe
[31 Dec/15:55] <Elysian> Premier Win98 Tech-Help-N-Chat Channel|NO:Warez,Files,/MSG's,Cussing,Keys,etc (Happy.Holidays.To.You!)
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[31 Dec/15:55] <Elysian>                                             ^^^^^^^^^^
[31 Dec/15:56] <l9ok> i downloaded explore 5.5 beta and i do not like it!and i want explore 4 back how do i uninstall explore 5.5?
[31 Dec/15:56] <djmixalot> that sfc thing dont work
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[31 Dec/15:56] <reebok> start, settings, control panel, add remove programs
[31 Dec/15:56] <Elysian> wb det
[31 Dec/15:56] <reebok> sfc works great
[31 Dec/15:56] <Deton8R> I'm back
[31 Dec/15:56] <l9ok> i tryed it does not work
[31 Dec/15:56] <reebok> it's prolly setupx.dl_ on the cd if that matters
[31 Dec/15:56] <djmixalot> how do u use it
[31 Dec/15:57] <Elysian> dj:
[31 Dec/15:57] <Elysian> do this
[31 Dec/15:57] <Elysian> run it
[31 Dec/15:57] <Elysian> click extract file from disk
[31 Dec/15:57] <Elysian> then type in setupx.dll
[31 Dec/15:57] <Elysian> then it brings up another window
[31 Dec/15:57] <Elysian> and you put in the dir it copies from, i.e. the cd
[31 Dec/15:57] <Elysian> the put in c:\windows\system
[31 Dec/15:57] <Elysian> in the other field
[31 Dec/15:58] <l9ok> i downloaded explore 5.5 beta and i do not like it!and i want explore 4 back how do i uninstall explore 5.5? i went to ad/remove will not come off!!!!
[31 Dec/15:58] <djmixalot> ne1 here know the run command for ms-mos
[31 Dec/15:58] <djmixalot> ms-dos
[31 Dec/15:58] <reebok> command I think
[31 Dec/15:58] <reebok> cmd maybe
[31 Dec/15:58] <LosGuy> command.com
[31 Dec/15:58] ! ReMaXaway is known as ReMaX
[31 Dec/15:59] <l9ok> i downloaded explore 5.5 beta and i do not like it!and i want explore 4 back how do i uninstall explore 5.5? i went to ad/remove will not come off!!!!
[31 Dec/15:59] <reebok> why don't you ask again
[31 Dec/15:59] <reebok> they probably tell you at the page
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[31 Dec/16:00] <Elysian> and learn to spell!
[31 Dec/16:00] <Elysian> ad/remove
[31 Dec/16:00] <LosGuy> doh 
[31 Dec/16:00] <LosGuy> Elysian has his spell check on
[31 Dec/16:00] <Elysian> hehe
[31 Dec/16:01] <l9ok> i downloaded explore 5.5 beta and i do not like it!and i want explore 4 back how do i uninstall explore 5.5? i went to add/remove programs will not come off!!!!
[31 Dec/16:01] * Elysian is a speel checker
[31 Dec/16:01] <Elysian> hrhr
[31 Dec/16:01] <Elysian> hehe
[31 Dec/16:01] <Elysian> doh
[31 Dec/16:01] <reebok> haha
[31 Dec/16:01] <LosGuy> one more time and he is history
[31 Dec/16:01] <Elysian> hehe
[31 Dec/16:01] <Elysian> at least he speeled it right
[31 Dec/16:01] <reebok> yaeh
[31 Dec/16:01] <Elysian> heh
[31 Dec/16:01] <l9ok> fuck off
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[31 Dec/16:02] <Elysian> doh
[31 Dec/16:02] * Elysian jumps on his gun!
[31 Dec/16:02] <Elysian> `insult l9ok
[31 Dec/16:02] <Elysian> doh
[31 Dec/16:02] <Elysian> `insult l9ok
[31 Dec/16:02] <Elysian> there better
[31 Dec/16:02] <Elysian> i forgot to login:)
[31 Dec/16:02] <Elysian> -Amsterdam- Couldn't open the file ./randfiles/randinsult.e
[31 Dec/16:02] <Elysian> hmm
[31 Dec/16:02] <reebok> heheh
[31 Dec/16:03] <Elysian> peg might wanna fix that
[31 Dec/16:03] <Elysian> `pickup l9ok
[31 Dec/16:03] <Elysian> gotsa love those command
[31 Dec/16:03] <Elysian> s:)
[31 Dec/16:03] @ mode #win98 [+b *!*l9ok@*.gblx.net] by LosGuy!~husky21@user-33qtk24.dialup.mindspring.com
[31 Dec/16:03] <Elysian> good
[31 Dec/16:03] <Elysian> hehe
[31 Dec/16:04] <LosGuy> :P
[31 Dec/16:04] <Elysian> he saw the topic... i put the topic on the screen:)
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[31 Dec/16:04] <LosGuy> that was re somthing else Elysian
[31 Dec/16:05] <Elysian> it was still on l9ok's screen
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[31 Dec/16:05] <Elysian> so
[31 Dec/16:05] <Elysian> wb
[31 Dec/16:05] <LosGuy> ahh ok
[31 Dec/16:05] <reebok> whether he actually read it
[31 Dec/16:06] <reebok> heh
[31 Dec/16:06] * Elysian hates having 1 fone line
[31 Dec/16:06] <Elysian> whether he read it or not doesn't matter... his mommy wouldn't allow that language:)
[31 Dec/16:06] <reebok> I have 1 line
[31 Dec/16:06] <Elysian> i have dial up access tho
[31 Dec/16:06] <reebok> ;)
[31 Dec/16:07] <Elysian> i don't get it
[31 Dec/16:07] <Elysian> my parents have a lotta money in the bank now
[31 Dec/16:07] <Elysian> for the first time in years
[31 Dec/16:07] <Elysian> yet they won't go for cable
[31 Dec/16:07] <LosGuy> hehe
[31 Dec/16:07] <Elysian> my dad would absolutely love it
[31 Dec/16:07] <reebok> dang
[31 Dec/16:07] <reebok> .ckear
[31 Dec/16:07] <Elysian> and i think he knows that
[31 Dec/16:07] <reebok> doh
[31 Dec/16:07] <LosGuy> frivolity
[31 Dec/16:08] <LosGuy> hmm spell check that for me would you Elysian
[31 Dec/16:08] <Elysian> frivolity? my dad just bought a 89 lincoln
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[31 Dec/16:08] <LosGuy> so its 10 years old
[31 Dec/16:08] <pyrokiwi> hmmm
[31 Dec/16:08] <Elysian> and its frugalty or something:)
[31 Dec/16:08] <Elysian> hi wez
[31 Dec/16:08] <reebok> no that's a word
[31 Dec/16:08] <reebok> frivolous
[31 Dec/16:08] <pyrokiwi> 7hours50minutes in nz till Y@K
[31 Dec/16:08] <pyrokiwi> woops
[31 Dec/16:08] <pyrokiwi> y2k
[31 Dec/16:08] <Elysian> yeah
[31 Dec/16:09] <reebok> where?
[31 Dec/16:09] <wezwork> hey ely...
[31 Dec/16:09] <wezwork> and ree..
[31 Dec/16:09] <Elysian> but frivolity
[31 Dec/16:09] <Elysian> ?
[31 Dec/16:09] <pyrokiwi> in nz :)
[31 Dec/16:09] <reebok> not sure if it means what los meant it to though..hmmm
[31 Dec/16:09] <LosGuy>  7hours50minutes in nz till the power goes off
[31 Dec/16:09] <LosGuy> :P
[31 Dec/16:09] <pyrokiwi> hehe if it does or if my pc mucks ill come on here and tell ya dont worry
[31 Dec/16:09] <reebok> frivolity, the action verb
[31 Dec/16:09] <reebok> heheh
[31 Dec/16:10] <LosGuy> oh yeah .. ok
[31 Dec/16:10] <LosGuy> hehe
[31 Dec/16:10] <reebok> Frivolity is a word
[31 Dec/16:10] <reebok> it means flightless
[31 Dec/16:10] <Elysian> hehe
[31 Dec/16:10] <reebok> er
[31 Dec/16:10] <pyrokiwi> lol
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[31 Dec/16:10] <fart> Can someone help me set up these CD Roms?  I have a DVD player, and I just installed a CD Burner....when I boot up it only recognizes one and Win98 doesn't recognize either
[31 Dec/16:10] <Elysian> hmm
[31 Dec/16:10] <Elysian> strange word
[31 Dec/16:10] <pyrokiwi> hmmm
[31 Dec/16:10] <reebok> flightiness
[31 Dec/16:10] * Elysian doesn't expect much major stuff to happen in america.... no no TEXAS!:)
[31 Dec/16:11] <pyrokiwi> hmmm i wonder
[31 Dec/16:11] <Elysian> or in other words
[31 Dec/16:11] <pyrokiwi> the thing is will russias nukes br y2k compliant or will they all go and blow the us up?
[31 Dec/16:11] <Elysian> MY PARENTS ARE CHEAP!:)
[31 Dec/16:12] <pyrokiwi> y?
[31 Dec/16:12] <reebok> efront reported they were y2k ok
[31 Dec/16:12] <reebok> I think
[31 Dec/16:12] <pyrokiwi> efront reported
[31 Dec/16:12] <pyrokiwi> i reported i am a millioner
[31 Dec/16:14] <COO-MAN> l8r all
[31 Dec/16:15] <wezwork> oh sure, i show up and everyone bails...
[31 Dec/16:15] <reebok> hehe
[31 Dec/16:15] <COO-MAN> lol.. 
[31 Dec/16:15] <COO-MAN> bubye
[31 Dec/16:15] <LosGuy> see ya COO-MAN
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[31 Dec/16:15] <Deton8R> ha
[31 Dec/16:15] <Deton8R> imagine that
[31 Dec/16:15] <Deton8R> yer a g33k
[31 Dec/16:24] < SignOff: Athena_!itsnotme@ppp35.US-GOVT.org (SantaClara.CA.US.Undernet.Org Vancouver.BC.CA.Undernet.org)
[31 Dec/16:24] <Elysian> well gotsa go!
[31 Dec/16:24] <Elysian> doh
[31 Dec/16:24] <Elysian> no
[31 Dec/16:24] <Elysian> :)
[31 Dec/16:24] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm
[31 Dec/16:24] <Elysian> just cause wez is here and all:)
[31 Dec/16:24] <pyrokiwi> lol
[31 Dec/16:24] <pyrokiwi> syas
[31 Dec/16:24] <wezwork> :)
[31 Dec/16:24] ! `cow is known as _________
[31 Dec/16:25] <wezwork> eh, who f*rted in here?
[31 Dec/16:25] <pyrokiwi> lo
[31 Dec/16:25] <pyrokiwi> lol
[31 Dec/16:25] * wezwork wonders where ED is when he is needed...
[31 Dec/16:25] <Elysian> ?
[31 Dec/16:25] <pyrokiwi> lol
[31 Dec/16:25] <wezwork> such an indignity to bathe your komrades in effluvia
[31 Dec/16:25] <pyrokiwi> dman
[31 Dec/16:25] <Elysian> effluvia?
[31 Dec/16:25] <Elysian> whats that?
[31 Dec/16:25] <wezwork> effluent 
[31 Dec/16:25] <Elysian> ok
[31 Dec/16:25] <wezwork> sort of the by-product of affluence
[31 Dec/16:25] <Elysian> ok
[31 Dec/16:27] <LosGuy> it IS byproduct
[31 Dec/16:27] <pyrokiwi> hmmm
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[31 Dec/16:29] ! reebok is known as huck
[31 Dec/16:34] < SignOff: pyrokiwi!hehe@210-55-151-147.dialup.xtra.co.nz (sya {[the pyro's alt.flame script is here!]})
[31 Dec/16:35] > pinba||!big@pmmaso1-20.rconnect.com has joined #win98
[31 Dec/16:35] <pinba||> hi everybody
[31 Dec/16:35] <LosGuy> hi
[31 Dec/16:35] <pinba||> does win98 meen window98??????
[31 Dec/16:36] <LosGuy> yup
[31 Dec/16:36] <LosGuy> windows 98
[31 Dec/16:36] <pinba||> cool
[31 Dec/16:36] <pinba||> thats what i got
[31 Dec/16:36] <LosGuy> kewl
[31 Dec/16:36] <Elysian> and also windows 98!
[31 Dec/16:36] <Elysian> :)
[31 Dec/16:36] <pinba||> cool
[31 Dec/16:37] <LosGuy> Elysian is doing his best GEAS immitation tonight
[31 Dec/16:37] <huck> ?
[31 Dec/16:37] <LosGuy> correcting spelling
[31 Dec/16:37] <Elysian> doh
[31 Dec/16:37] <huck> you know he set up a web cam?
[31 Dec/16:37] < SignOff: fart!ff@a24b31n71client21.hawaii.rr.com (Leaving)
[31 Dec/16:37] <LosGuy> yeah
[31 Dec/16:37] <Elysian> i haven't talked to geas in forever
[31 Dec/16:37] <wezwork> whats the url?
[31 Dec/16:37] <huck> hehehe
[31 Dec/16:37] <LosGuy> and the speaker thing
[31 Dec/16:37] <pinba||> hehehehe 
[31 Dec/16:37] <pinba||> fart
[31 Dec/16:38] <huck> hehehehe 
[31 Dec/16:38] <huck> gay
[31 Dec/16:38] <huck> msbd://michael.dyn.dhs.org:7070/  if that fails, then try http://michael.dyn.dhs.org:8080/ 
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[31 Dec/16:38] <pyrokiwi> hiyas
[31 Dec/16:38] <pinba||> no thankyou
[31 Dec/16:38] <Elysian> oh yeah?
[31 Dec/16:38] <Elysian> weird
[31 Dec/16:39] <pyrokiwi> hey any1 hav an idea where i can get a win3.11 driver for a creative 4peed cdrom 
[31 Dec/16:39] * pinba|| must go and play with himself
[31 Dec/16:39] <LosGuy> windrivers.com
[31 Dec/16:39] <pyrokiwi> tried
[31 Dec/16:39] <wezwork> then he MUST GO..
[31 Dec/16:39] <pyrokiwi> none there
[31 Dec/16:39] <LosGuy> `kb pinba|| let me help ya get started
[31 Dec/16:39] @ mode #win98 [+b *!*big@*.rconnect.com] by Zeus!pegasys@tigerrose.grateful.org
[31 Dec/16:39] < pinba||!big@pmmaso1-20.rconnect.com was kicked off #win98 by Zeus!pegasys@tigerrose.grateful.org (let me help ya get started)
[31 Dec/16:39] <huck> heheh
[31 Dec/16:39] <wezwork> heheheh
[31 Dec/16:39] <pyrokiwi> any other places?
[31 Dec/16:39] <Elysian> doh
[31 Dec/16:39] <Elysian> hehe
[31 Dec/16:39] <wezwork> well im off to bed... see U when i get home......
[31 Dec/16:39] <pyrokiwi> syas
[31 Dec/16:40] <LosGuy> and miss the kiwi newyear?
[31 Dec/16:40] <LosGuy> sheez wez!
[31 Dec/16:40] <pyrokiwi> sad guy
[31 Dec/16:40] <pyrokiwi> so no more ideas 4 drivers?
[31 Dec/16:40] <wezwork> perhaps i will be able to drop in when i get home...
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[31 Dec/16:41] < SignOff: wezwork!uio@206.10.128.207 (Leaving)
[31 Dec/16:41] <pyrokiwi> blow 
[31 Dec/16:41] <LosGuy> ok forgot he was at work
[31 Dec/16:41] ! nasty\afk is known as nasty\sad
[31 Dec/16:41] <pyrokiwi> DONT go to www.driverguide.com it nukes u
[31 Dec/16:41] <pyrokiwi> i gtg reboot  brb
[31 Dec/16:41] <LosGuy> haha
[31 Dec/16:41] <LosGuy> I doubt that 
[31 Dec/16:41] ! LCannibis is known as LCan|OUT
[31 Dec/16:41] <pyrokiwi> well it sure stuffs up my pc every time i go there
[31 Dec/16:41] <huck> it's ok here
[31 Dec/16:41] <pyrokiwi> slows down links muck up
[31 Dec/16:42] * LosGuy is there now
[31 Dec/16:42] <pyrokiwi> hmmm maybe its just netscape ill try ie
[31 Dec/16:42] * LosGuy is using netscape
[31 Dec/16:42] <LosGuy> page is slow to load though
[31 Dec/16:42] <pyrokiwi> huh? yeh know try going to another page and u hav to LOGIN
[31 Dec/16:42] <pyrokiwi> login - drivers password - all
[31 Dec/16:42] <huck> it was fast here
[31 Dec/16:43] <LosGuy> stalled here
[31 Dec/16:43] <pyrokiwi> login to it
[31 Dec/16:43] <pyrokiwi> yeh now losguy netscape wont work properly
[31 Dec/16:43] <LosGuy> mine is
[31 Dec/16:43] <pyrokiwi> hang on i think ie works
[31 Dec/16:43] <LosGuy> but I didnt log on
[31 Dec/16:44] <pyrokiwi> yeh log on and i reckon itl stuff up
[31 Dec/16:44] <LosGuy> I know that there are some hostile sites out there that can cause you to be redirected on all links you clicked on once visiting them
[31 Dec/16:44] <pyrokiwi> ie works fine though
[31 Dec/16:44] <LosGuy> read about one today somewhere
[31 Dec/16:44] <pyrokiwi> just netscape is funny with it
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[31 Dec/16:46] * Elysian hates nutscrape... its ugly
[31 Dec/16:46] <mrgone> ARGGGGR
[31 Dec/16:46] <Elysian> ?
[31 Dec/16:46] <mrgone> i go away, leave the computer on
[31 Dec/16:46] <Elysian> having troubles with the auction?
[31 Dec/16:46] <pyrokiwi> hmmm took me and friend long time to fix internet access turns out it was firewall that had gone over trial time limit and something had annoyed it
[31 Dec/16:47] <jet350> hey los hows things?
[31 Dec/16:47] ! freePARTY is known as {K}ermit
[31 Dec/16:47] < SignOff: LosGuy!~husky21@user-33qtk24.dialup.mindspring.com (<<ÐêtóÑ8®>>v3.0 Internet terrorism at its finest.)
[31 Dec/16:47] <mrgone> dad does some stupid things watching my ebay, refreshing the page from the temporary internet file in windows thinking its forever got 34 minutes left when actually the auction has already ended
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[31 Dec/16:47] <pyrokiwi> oh well syas ppls
[31 Dec/16:47] <Elysian> doh
[31 Dec/16:47] ! {K}ermit is known as freeparyu
[31 Dec/16:47] <Elysian> hi jet
[31 Dec/16:47] <mrgone> i WOULD have gotten it this time!
[31 Dec/16:47] <jet350> hey
[31 Dec/16:47] <jet350> what happened to los?
[31 Dec/16:47] <huck> he disconnected
[31 Dec/16:47] < SignOff: pyrokiwi!hehe@210-55-151-147.dialup.xtra.co.nz (sya {[the pyro's alt.flame script is here!]})
[31 Dec/16:47] <huck> voluntarily or not is questionable
[31 Dec/16:48] <Elysian> ack
[31 Dec/16:48] <jet350> oh
[31 Dec/16:48] <mrgone> thats twice i get screwed
[31 Dec/16:48] <mrgone> im getting a friggin ulser trying to save a buck
[31 Dec/16:48] <Elysian> doh
[31 Dec/16:49] <mrgone> i cant believe it
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[31 Dec/16:49] <Elysian> why not get the tnt2 off mwave.com for 101.50
[31 Dec/16:49] <Elysian> ?
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[31 Dec/16:49] <Elysian> hmm
[31 Dec/16:50] <fart> Can someone help me w/ these CD Rom's?  Cord got the computer to recognize them, but now Win98 gives me an error when I try to use them
[31 Dec/16:50] <mrgone> the auction that ended 20 minutes ago was for 82$ the one that ended yesterday was 76$
[31 Dec/16:50] <Elysian> www.mwave.com
[31 Dec/16:50] <Elysian> wow!
[31 Dec/16:50] <fart> it says they're not accessable
[31 Dec/16:50] ! freeparyu is known as freeparty
[31 Dec/16:51] <fart> but they're both listed in the Device Manager, and it says they're working properly
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[31 Dec/16:53] <mrgone> ok
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[31 Dec/16:59] <Elysian> los: jet wanted to ask you something, but forgot what
[31 Dec/16:59] <LosGuy> hehe
[31 Dec/16:59] <Elysian> oh yeah
[31 Dec/16:59] <Elysian> <jet350> hey los hows things?
[31 Dec/16:59] <LosGuy> I saw him say hi
[31 Dec/16:59] <LosGuy> yeah
[31 Dec/17:00] <fart> but they're both listed in the Device Manager, and it says they're working properly
[31 Dec/17:00] <Elysian> then you left:)
[31 Dec/17:00] <mrgone> los i have bad news
[31 Dec/17:00] <LosGuy> I moved my computer and accidently unplugged my keyboard...doh! had to shutdown to plug it back in
[31 Dec/17:00] <mrgone> awful awful news
[31 Dec/17:00] <LosGuy> I saw the grrrrr before I left too mrgone
[31 Dec/17:00] <Elysian> los: really? thats sad!
[31 Dec/17:00] <LosGuy> doh
[31 Dec/17:00] <fart> Can someone help me w/ these CD Rom's?  Cord got the computer to recognize them, but now Win98 gives me an error when I try to use them
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[31 Dec/17:01] <LosGuy> fart have DMA enabled on any of them?
[31 Dec/17:01] <mrgone> my dad was watching the auction. a simple task of leaving it connected to the internet and hitting the refresh button
[31 Dec/17:01] <LosGuy> doh
[31 Dec/17:01] <Elysian> teach you not to have a dad do a kids job:)
[31 Dec/17:01] < SignOff: fart!ff@a24b31n71client21.hawaii.rr.com (Leaving)
[31 Dec/17:02] <mrgone> i come back and the url for the ebay he is looking at is |c:\windows\temporary internet files\http:\\cgi.ebay.. etc.
[31 Dec/17:02] <LosGuy> sheez I tried
[31 Dec/17:02] <LosGuy> doh
[31 Dec/17:02] <mrgone> the auction is over and the page says it has 34 minutes to go
[31 Dec/17:02] <LosGuy> ouch
[31 Dec/17:02] <mrgone> i would have gotten it too
[31 Dec/17:02] <LosGuy> I take it you were out bid?
[31 Dec/17:03] <mrgone> i didnt bid on it, would just raise the price. gotta get a 1st bid in the last minute
[31 Dec/17:03] <LosGuy> its a sign mrgone ..they were probably crappy cards ...someone is looking out for you
[31 Dec/17:03] <mrgone> but nooooo
[31 Dec/17:03] <mrgone> maybe satan wants them all for himself
[31 Dec/17:03] <LosGuy> that has got to hurt :P
[31 Dec/17:04] * LosGuy buys mrgone a beer to drown his sorrows (have to be ROOT beer though...for now)
[31 Dec/17:04] <mrgone> oh yes. i found a new auction hahah... it has 10 cards. yes 10 tnt2's for 80$... oooh i cant lose this time.... all i have to do is at the party, slip out the back and get on a computer
[31 Dec/17:05] <LosGuy> hehe
[31 Dec/17:08] <Elysian> hehe
[31 Dec/17:08] <mrgone> ill have my little bro on the phone also
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[31 Dec/17:12] ! Ed`AwaY is known as Big`Ed
[31 Dec/17:12] <LosGuy> howdy Big`Ed
[31 Dec/17:12] <Big`Ed> Hi Mr Los!
[31 Dec/17:13] <mrgone> whats the difference between http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=226095785  and  http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=227013570
[31 Dec/17:13] <mrgone> they say their the same, but the pics looks diff
[31 Dec/17:14] <Big`Ed> pics only as accurate as the user putting them there
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[31 Dec/17:14] <mrgone> but one says nvida, and the other is next to the bos says 32mb m64
[31 Dec/17:15] <mrgone> nvida is on the card
[31 Dec/17:15] <mrgone> bos=box
[31 Dec/17:15] <mrgone> if i get this i am sooo paying next day delivery both ways
[31 Dec/17:16] <LosGuy> nvidia is just the chipset
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[31 Dec/17:17] <Big`Ed> can't tell the difference from here
[31 Dec/17:18] <mrgone> the pics of the cards are different but theri like the same card
[31 Dec/17:18] <mrgone> 32meg nvida tnt2 m64
[31 Dec/17:18] <Deckardd> Hello everybody. It's been a while. 
[31 Dec/17:18] <Big`Ed> ones 'nvidia' ones powercolor
[31 Dec/17:18] <mrgone> ah
[31 Dec/17:18] <Big`Ed> both have same chip, same ram, same basics
[31 Dec/17:18] <mrgone> i see
[31 Dec/17:19] ! nasty\sad is known as Grot3NwYr
[31 Dec/17:19] * Big`Ed would stay away from no-name TW companies
[31 Dec/17:19] <Big`Ed> hard to find drivers/support for cards later
[31 Dec/17:20] <LosGuy> mrgone http://www.powercolor.com.tw/products/gamecard/vga_sniperm.htm
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[31 Dec/17:21] <Big`Ed> hmm - powercolor is listed company on 'pricewatch'
[31 Dec/17:22] <Big`Ed> $83 USD on pricewatch for card
[31 Dec/17:22] <Big`Ed> er 82
[31 Dec/17:22] <LosGuy> that card is called the "sniper 2"
[31 Dec/17:23] <LosGuy> and is BASED on the nvidia TNT2 chipset
[31 Dec/17:23] <Big`Ed> Riva TNT2 32MB AGP Sniper w/WinDVD DVD Player & 3D Game True 128bit RIVA TNT2 M64 TwiN Texel Graphics AGP 4x/2x With True Color 32-Bit 3D Rendering 32MB Memory $ 82
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[31 Dec/17:25] <mrgone> k well i slapped a bid on that
[31 Dec/17:25] <mrgone> ill check it tomorrow like alllllll day
[31 Dec/17:26] <LosGuy> which one mrgone?
[31 Dec/17:26] <mrgone> oooh no im not tellin you.... ;)
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[31 Dec/17:26] <mrgone> this is my third try
[31 Dec/17:26] <LosGuy> I note that the one has a cooler on it
[31 Dec/17:26] <LosGuy> passive..but still a cooler
[31 Dec/17:26] <Big`Ed> hiya runner-guy
[31 Dec/17:26] <walkndude> evening
[31 Dec/17:26] <LosGuy> hey walkndude
[31 Dec/17:26] <walkndude> hi
[31 Dec/17:26] <mrgone> ya i bod on the one with the cooler
[31 Dec/17:27] <mrgone> its smaller in size
[31 Dec/17:27] <whizd> I have a question?
[31 Dec/17:27] <mrgone> gg seeya in 12 hours, then again in 13 hours.. then again every 30 minutes
[31 Dec/17:27] < SignOff: mrgone!~Webmaster@hlfx44-64.ns.sympatico.ca (cept when ya say 'the storm of `91' itll be 'the storm of `01' which is stupid)
[31 Dec/17:27] <LosGuy> go ahead and ask it whizd
[31 Dec/17:27] <Big`Ed> which one is that?
[31 Dec/17:28] <LosGuy> not the powercool one Ed
[31 Dec/17:28] <Big`Ed> ah
[31 Dec/17:28] <whizd> Ok I have a friend asking why she can't run Mirc 
[31 Dec/17:29] <LosGuy> haha
[31 Dec/17:29] * Big`Ed holds back any sexual inuendo's
[31 Dec/17:29] <LosGuy> yer gonna have to be more specific
[31 Dec/17:29] <whizd> she says a prompt tells her she is missing winstock?
[31 Dec/17:29] <LosGuy> winsock
[31 Dec/17:29] <walkndude> winsock
[31 Dec/17:29] <whizd> yes
[31 Dec/17:29] <LosGuy> she needs to install dialup networking
[31 Dec/17:29] <LosGuy> most likely
[31 Dec/17:30] <LosGuy> hmm acutally
[31 Dec/17:30] <walkndude> Whick windows she running 3.1 95 98 ?
[31 Dec/17:30] <whizd> lol...95
[31 Dec/17:30] <walkndude> Which
[31 Dec/17:30] <LosGuy> I run it on a box that doesnt have dialup installed
[31 Dec/17:30] <Big`Ed> client issue
[31 Dec/17:30] <Big`Ed> type of mirc program
[31 Dec/17:30] <Big`Ed> also - how she connects to the internet
[31 Dec/17:30] * LosGuy dont do win95
[31 Dec/17:30] <Big`Ed> (but not a win98 issue there)
[31 Dec/17:31] <whizd> I told her to get 98 and come back
[31 Dec/17:31] <Big`Ed> oh - your so harsh on the ladies
[31 Dec/17:32] <whizd> she's an old friend....she understands
[31 Dec/17:32] <whizd> hey walkndude
[31 Dec/17:32] <walkndude> yes
[31 Dec/17:32] <whizd> Do you have any input?
[31 Dec/17:32] <walkndude> on what...the Mirc
[31 Dec/17:33] <whizd> yes
[31 Dec/17:33] <Big`Ed> shame gone left: nVidia Riva TNT2 M64 chipset 32MB RETAIL 1920 x 1200 in 16.7 million colors / 4X AGP / Heat sink attached $ 77 Unknown?? 12/22/99 5:06:00 PM CST
[31 Dec/17:33] <walkndude> tell her to work on the deep knee bends
[31 Dec/17:34] <whizd> I did she told me to f#$% off
[31 Dec/17:35] * Big`Ed loves it when a lady says words like that to me...
[31 Dec/17:35] <whizd> want her address big ed?
[31 Dec/17:35] <walkndude> got a pic?
[31 Dec/17:35] <Big`Ed> without a pic?
[31 Dec/17:35] ! Grot3NwYr is known as angie
[31 Dec/17:35] <Big`Ed> hehe
[31 Dec/17:35] <whizd> yeah i have a pic
[31 Dec/17:36] <whizd> want it ed?
[31 Dec/17:36] <Big`Ed> no FILES on #win98
[31 Dec/17:36] <Big`Ed> if it is 'worth it' would love it 'after you leave'
[31 Dec/17:37] * Big`Ed wonders if she is worth a "flying f#$%"
[31 Dec/17:38] <walkndude> Losguy...how's the Celeron 500mhz doing?
[31 Dec/17:38] <Big`Ed> (in a box to me)
[31 Dec/17:38] <LosGuy> have been lazy walkndude... I have not got it running yet
[31 Dec/17:39] <walkndude> I been there too..
[31 Dec/17:39] <LosGuy> I will before the year is out
[31 Dec/17:39] <LosGuy> hehe
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[31 Dec/17:39] ! Grot3NwYr is known as angie
[31 Dec/17:39] * Big`Ed rests his feet on his 'superG 1GhZ'
[31 Dec/17:40] <LosGuy> ahahhahah
[31 Dec/17:40] <LosGuy> get yer feet offa that!
[31 Dec/17:40] <walkndude> right ..don't do today what you can put off and do tomorrow
[31 Dec/17:40] <Big`Ed> (me should be more careful where he lays his printed pieces of paper)
[31 Dec/17:41] <walkndude> heheh
[31 Dec/17:41] <LosGuy> well it involves shuffling cards around in all three boxes... one of them has a 17 inch monitor on it and I have just been too lazy to move it (no place to put it)
[31 Dec/17:41] <LosGuy> the linux box is a desktop.
[31 Dec/17:41] <walkndude> whizd..you get the 486 up and running again?
[31 Dec/17:41] <Big`Ed> how did you get a 17" monitor into a computer box?
[31 Dec/17:41] <whizd> next question
[31 Dec/17:41] <walkndude> no?
[31 Dec/17:42] <whizd> no
[31 Dec/17:42] <whizd> I need cd rom parameters?
[31 Dec/17:42] <Big`Ed> http://www5.tomshardware.com/cpu/99q4/991115/index.html
[31 Dec/17:42] <walkndude> no
[31 Dec/17:42] <Big`Ed> for win98?
[31 Dec/17:42] <Big`Ed> like how?
[31 Dec/17:42] <Big`Ed> whizd
[31 Dec/17:43] <whizd> 3.1 ed
[31 Dec/17:43] <Big`Ed> win98 channel whizd
[31 Dec/17:44] <Big`Ed> 3.1 did not support cd-rom drivers internally
[31 Dec/17:44] <walkndude> whizd you talking about in the bios
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[31 Dec/17:44] <LosGuy> nope from dos go to windrivers.com
[31 Dec/17:44] <Big`Ed> skippy
[31 Dec/17:44] <whizd> yes walkndude
[31 Dec/17:44] <CJ^> yo
[31 Dec/17:45] <walkndude> just for the hard drive
[31 Dec/17:45] <whizd> hey cj
[31 Dec/17:45] <walkndude> hello cj^
[31 Dec/17:45] <whizd> yes
[31 Dec/17:47] ! CJ^ is known as CJafk
[31 Dec/17:48] <Big`Ed> he likes that nick
[31 Dec/17:48] <Big`Ed> cj "allways feels kiddies"
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[31 Dec/17:52] <LosGuy> doh
[31 Dec/17:54] <walkndude> wonder how busy MS site is, need to get some updates
[31 Dec/17:55] <Big`Ed> havn't been new updates for about 1 week
[31 Dec/17:55] <Big`Ed> (i have beenc hecking daily
[31 Dec/17:55] <Big`Ed> been checking
[31 Dec/17:55] <walkndude> install SE again today
[31 Dec/17:55] <Big`Ed> you got lots of updates then
[31 Dec/17:55] <walkndude> yep
[31 Dec/17:55] <walkndude> lots of reboots
[31 Dec/17:56] <Big`Ed> o2k or o97 ?
[31 Dec/17:56] <walkndude> no just for SE
[31 Dec/17:56] <walkndude> I have O2k but not installed
[31 Dec/17:57] <Big`Ed> ok
[31 Dec/17:57] <walkndude> I think most is for IE5
[31 Dec/17:58] <Big`Ed> CJafk - are you here? better check out a /whois on CJ^
[31 Dec/17:58] <walkndude> heheh
[31 Dec/17:58] <Big`Ed> there is lots of internet security things - yea
[31 Dec/17:58] <Big`Ed> o97 has a few bugs
[31 Dec/17:58] <LosGuy> hahahah
[31 Dec/17:59] <walkndude> I think there's another wez too sometimes
[31 Dec/17:59] <Big`Ed> that good?
[31 Dec/18:00] <walkndude> the other hangs in the mp3 channels (wez)
[31 Dec/18:00] ! fire^fish is known as Grem|in
[31 Dec/18:00] <Big`Ed> ah
[31 Dec/18:01] <walkndude> dunno what happen to the other walkndude he cuz me some trouble in other channels for a while
[31 Dec/18:02] <Big`Ed> well persistance rules on keeping a nick
[31 Dec/18:02] <walkndude> yeah..
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[31 Dec/18:07] <walkndude> hi Elysian
[31 Dec/18:07] <Big`Ed> TexW
[31 Dec/18:07] <Elysian> TexW?
[31 Dec/18:08] ! CJafk is known as CJbat
[31 Dec/18:08] <Big`Ed> West-a-Dallas
[31 Dec/18:08] <Elysian> ?
[31 Dec/18:09] <Elysian> not really
[31 Dec/18:09] <Big`Ed> hhee - skippy's third nick
[31 Dec/18:09] <Elysian> pretty north o dallas:)
[31 Dec/18:09] <Elysian> skippy?
[31 Dec/18:10] <CJbat> jessssssssssss?
[31 Dec/18:10] <Big`Ed> cj^ - cjbat - cjafk - the first one is real interesting
[31 Dec/18:10] <whizd> Thanks Los guy, walkNdude and umm you too big ed...later 
[31 Dec/18:10] <Big`Ed> hmmm
[31 Dec/18:10] <Elysian> umm
[31 Dec/18:10] <Big`Ed> ummm you to
[31 Dec/18:10] <Elysian> heh
[31 Dec/18:10] <CJbat> dont go there..
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[31 Dec/18:11] <CJbat> bad enough when he looses a connection  i get hit on by his BF's
[31 Dec/18:11] <LosGuy> hehehe
[31 Dec/18:11] <Elysian> ack
[31 Dec/18:11] <Big`Ed> ack
[31 Dec/18:11] <Elysian> `pickup cjbat
[31 Dec/18:11] <Elysian> hehe
[31 Dec/18:13] <Elysian> `ping elysian
[31 Dec/18:13] <Elysian> hmm
[31 Dec/18:13] <Elysian> is that a command?
[31 Dec/18:13] <Elysian> :)
[31 Dec/18:14] <walkndude> Hmm, `clean up desk
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[31 Dec/18:14] <Big`Ed> wb CJbat
[31 Dec/18:15] <LosGuy> not anymore Elysian.. used to be able to do that and more.. ie `flood Elysian
[31 Dec/18:15] <Elysian> ack
[31 Dec/18:15] <Elysian> don't like that one
[31 Dec/18:15] <Big`Ed> i can do that
[31 Dec/18:15] <Elysian> my stupid mech was pretty screwed earlier
[31 Dec/18:15] <walkndude> clean up desk didn't work either
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[31 Dec/18:15] <Elysian> it didn't listen to my password at all
[31 Dec/18:15] <Big`Ed> cleanup 'desk'
[31 Dec/18:15] <Elysian> `reboot
[31 Dec/18:15] <Elysian> hmm
[31 Dec/18:15] <Big`Ed> whats that
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[31 Dec/18:15] <LosGuy> doh
[31 Dec/18:15] <LosGuy> -say
[31 Dec/18:15] <Elysian> `cleanup recycle bin
[31 Dec/18:16] <Elysian> its a `
[31 Dec/18:16] <Elysian> not a -
[31 Dec/18:16] <LosGuy> `say
[31 Dec/18:16] <Elysian> [11:15] -MegaDETH_- Incorrect password, not authorized
[31 Dec/18:16] <Elysian> !!!!!!!!!!11
[31 Dec/18:16] <LosGuy> I can fix it for you Elysian
[31 Dec/18:16] <Elysian> its insane
[31 Dec/18:16] <LosGuy> MegaDETH_ chat
[31 Dec/18:16] <Elysian> hmm
[31 Dec/18:16] <Elysian> scary thought
[31 Dec/18:16] <Elysian> `say
[31 Dec/18:17] <Elysian> MegaDETH chat
[31 Dec/18:17] <Elysian> MegaDETH_ chat
[31 Dec/18:17] <Elysian> los: can you log in to it?
[31 Dec/18:17] <Elysian> its weird
[31 Dec/18:17] <walkndude> Ed..you been off work all this week?
[31 Dec/18:17] <acobb> I've a question:  Is there any way to do a new install of Win98 off of only an upgrade CD?
[31 Dec/18:17] <LosGuy> Elysian I am gonna delete you and readd you ok?
[31 Dec/18:18] <Elysian> i looked into the emech.user file and all the passwords were numbers and letters randomized.... i typed in exactly te random numbers and no can do
[31 Dec/18:18] <Elysian> los: okie
[31 Dec/18:19] <Elysian> okie
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[31 Dec/18:19] <Elysian> hmm
[31 Dec/18:19] <Elysian> okie
[31 Dec/18:20] <Elysian> thanx los
[31 Dec/18:20] <walkndude> brb
[31 Dec/18:20] <Smokee> hey can anyone help me fix something?
[31 Dec/18:20] ! walkndude is known as walkbrb
[31 Dec/18:20] <Big`Ed> depends on something
[31 Dec/18:20] <Big`Ed> cj^ has left
[31 Dec/18:21] <Smokee> well  i have this old hard drive which I need to get the data off of
[31 Dec/18:21] <Big`Ed> ok
[31 Dec/18:21] <Smokee> how will I do it_
[31 Dec/18:21] <Smokee> ?
[31 Dec/18:21] <Smokee> It has windows 3.1
[31 Dec/18:22] <Big`Ed> win98 recognizes win3.1 FAT 16 drives
[31 Dec/18:22] <LosGuy> set it to slave and plug it in 
[31 Dec/18:22] <Smokee> I already installed it to my pc but all it shows is 1.51mb of 246mb
[31 Dec/18:22] <Smokee> it also has a conflict with the driver
[31 Dec/18:22] <Big`Ed> can you install it without the 98 drive and see it 3.1 ?
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[31 Dec/18:23] <Smokee> already done, primary slave...but no cigar
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[31 Dec/18:23] <Big`Ed> so - it don't detect and work regular your saying
[31 Dec/18:23] <Big`Ed> sounds like jumpers/bios settings are bad
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[31 Dec/18:24] <Smokee> probably, but no jumpers on the hd
[31 Dec/18:24] <Big`Ed> they do not have master/slave jumpers?
[31 Dec/18:24] <Smokee> 8 ears old, need to get the info off for tax resons
[31 Dec/18:24] <Big`Ed> is this a IDE?
[31 Dec/18:24] <Smokee> nope
[31 Dec/18:24] <Big`Ed> or a MFM
[31 Dec/18:25] <Smokee> well it does have master/slave
[31 Dec/18:25] <Smokee> didn't see it
[31 Dec/18:25] <Smokee>  not on the back but the front
[31 Dec/18:25] <Smokee> sorry bout that
[31 Dec/18:25] <Big`Ed> and you sure y ou have the drive param's set right in bios?
[31 Dec/18:26] ! walkbrb is known as walkndude
[31 Dec/18:26] <Smokee> have it on auto...
[31 Dec/18:26] <Big`Ed> wb dude
[31 Dec/18:26] <Smokee> that get's it right
[31 Dec/18:26] <walkndude> thanks
[31 Dec/18:26] <Big`Ed> gets it right?
[31 Dec/18:27] <Smokee> the jumper is set on the first pin
[31 Dec/18:27] <Smokee> should it be set on the second?
[31 Dec/18:27] <Big`Ed> i would forget 98, and focus on booting the drive solo to a dos boot
[31 Dec/18:27] <Big`Ed> do you have the specs of the drive?
[31 Dec/18:27] <Big`Ed> type/info
[31 Dec/18:27] <Smokee> how?
[31 Dec/18:28] <Big`Ed> if drive is win31, it is bootable right?
[31 Dec/18:28] <Smokee> but i need the information to a zip disk or my other hd
[31 Dec/18:28] <Smokee> need a boot disk...tried it
[31 Dec/18:29] <Big`Ed> but can you get it set up to get into it from a diskette?
[31 Dec/18:29] <Smokee> what do you mean?
[31 Dec/18:30] <Big`Ed> can you boot to a diskette - and log to the C: drive where the data is?
[31 Dec/18:30] <Big`Ed> (what is this drive?)
[31 Dec/18:31] <Smokee> c:
[31 Dec/18:31] <Big`Ed> specs
[31 Dec/18:31] <Big`Ed> name/model
[31 Dec/18:31] <Smokee> on my c:?
[31 Dec/18:32] <Big`Ed> the drive you are trying to get into
[31 Dec/18:32] <walkndude> the drive that you're trying to get the data from
[31 Dec/18:32] <Smokee> oh...
[31 Dec/18:32] <Smokee> hold on
[31 Dec/18:33] <Big`Ed> my question: can you boot to just that DRIVE
[31 Dec/18:33] <Big`Ed> no other drive installed in system
[31 Dec/18:34] <Smokee> i have a 6.4 gb hd and a 246mb hd
[31 Dec/18:34] <Smokee> a maxtor 724sat
[31 Dec/18:35] <Smokee> hda 02p1
[31 Dec/18:35] ! starIite is known as end0rphin
[31 Dec/18:35] <Smokee> pcba 04p1
[31 Dec/18:35] <Smokee> unique 07p1
[31 Dec/18:35] <Smokee> tell ya anything?
[31 Dec/18:35] <Big`Ed> which drive is the one with 3.1 data ?
[31 Dec/18:36] <Smokee> primary slave
[31 Dec/18:36] <Big`Ed> now
[31 Dec/18:36] <Big`Ed> can you disconnect all other drives except this drive
[31 Dec/18:36] <Big`Ed> and make it master?
[31 Dec/18:37] <Big`Ed> and then reboot to it
[31 Dec/18:37] <Smokee> i have tried that...it says i need a boot diskette
[31 Dec/18:37] <Big`Ed> ok - and did you ?
[31 Dec/18:37] <Smokee> nope don't have a boot diskette
[31 Dec/18:37] <Big`Ed> and you did not make one?
[31 Dec/18:38] <Big`Ed> and try with it?
[31 Dec/18:38] <Big`Ed> is this drive the maxtor 724sat
[31 Dec/18:38] <Smokee> yes
[31 Dec/18:38] <LosGuy> ewww EZ drive stuff?
[31 Dec/18:38] <Smokee> how do you make a boot diskette when you can't access the drive
[31 Dec/18:39] <Big`Ed> Smokee - you need to make a win98 boot diskette - and then try to access c: drive on a solo boot
[31 Dec/18:39] <Big`Ed> control panel
[31 Dec/18:39] <Big`Ed> add/remove program
[31 Dec/18:39] <Big`Ed> windows boot disk
[31 Dec/18:39] <Big`Ed> if you can NOT do a dos C:
[31 Dec/18:39] <Big`Ed> then you need to examine the drive with FDISK
[31 Dec/18:40] <Smokee> what drive?
[31 Dec/18:40] <Smokee> the old one
[31 Dec/18:40] <Big`Ed> the DRIVE you need to get into
[31 Dec/18:40] <Big`Ed> yes
[31 Dec/18:42] <Smokee> oki
[31 Dec/18:42] <Smokee> what will fdisk do?
[31 Dec/18:43] <Big`Ed> tell you if the drive is recognized
[31 Dec/18:43] <Smokee> oki
[31 Dec/18:43] <Big`Ed> i don't see this drive listed on maxtors' site
[31 Dec/18:43] <walkndude> me either
[31 Dec/18:43] <Smokee> it's 8 years old
[31 Dec/18:44] <walkndude> 7245 is the nearest thing to it I found
[31 Dec/18:44] <walkndude> that may be it
[31 Dec/18:45] <Big`Ed> http://www.maxtor.com/products/products.html
[31 Dec/18:45] <Smokee> k
[31 Dec/18:45] <Big`Ed> this site - has several utilities on the bottom
[31 Dec/18:45] <Big`Ed> one is SYSINFO
[31 Dec/18:45] <Big`Ed> it reads the drive make / model
[31 Dec/18:45] <Big`Ed> one is MAXDIAG
[31 Dec/18:45] <Big`Ed> to test the drive
[31 Dec/18:46] <Big`Ed> one is MUD - that has both of these files
[31 Dec/18:46] <Big`Ed> if drive is 'detected' by SYSINFO/MAXDIAG
[31 Dec/18:46] <Big`Ed> you can then use 'maxblast' and install it
[31 Dec/18:46] <Big`Ed> THAT is what i would do
[31 Dec/18:47] <walkndude> MAXTOR 7245A/AT
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[31 Dec/18:47] * Big`Ed has to disappear
[31 Dec/18:47] <walkndude> bye Ed
[31 Dec/18:47] <Smokee> thanx 4 our help
[31 Dec/18:48] <Big`Ed> okies
[31 Dec/18:48] <Big`Ed> catch you all tommorow
[31 Dec/18:48] <LosGuy> nite Ed
[31 Dec/18:48] <walkndude> take care
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[31 Dec/18:51] <walkndude> wb whizd
[31 Dec/18:52] <whizd> hey
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[31 Dec/18:52] <walkndude> you not heading to Springdale?
[31 Dec/18:53] <whizd> ok the hard drive is not working  the connection is fine
[31 Dec/18:53] <whizd> Yes soon
[31 Dec/18:54] <walkndude> you check all the connections?
[31 Dec/18:54] <whizd> yes
[31 Dec/18:54] <walkndude> is it spinning up?
[31 Dec/18:54] <whizd> maybe the cabkle is bad?
[31 Dec/18:54] <whizd> yes
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[31 Dec/18:55] <walkndude> well if you have the right settings in the bios and all connections are good, the drive may have went bad
[31 Dec/18:56] <whizd> wonderful
[31 Dec/18:57] + Azmodan looks
[31 Dec/18:57] <walkndude> welcome to buying used stuff
[31 Dec/18:57] <Azmodan> 4 hours 3 minutes
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[31 Dec/18:58] <whizd> right
[31 Dec/18:59] <walkndude> are you at home whizd?
[31 Dec/18:59] <whizd> yeap
[31 Dec/19:01] <walkndude> ok...I wouldn't spend the money on another drive on a 486 DX 66
[31 Dec/19:03] <whizd> I can get that for free
[31 Dec/19:03] <walkndude> a drive?
[31 Dec/19:04] <walkndude> or the girl in Springdale?
[31 Dec/19:04] <whizd> both
[31 Dec/19:06] <whizd> Springdale has a twin sister
[31 Dec/19:06] <walkndude> she 5'11" too
[31 Dec/19:06] <walkndude> twin doh
[31 Dec/19:09] ! QT^ZzzzZ is known as ChiwiGal
[31 Dec/19:09] <walkndude> she sure has some long legs
[31 Dec/19:09] <whizd> she is an amazon
[31 Dec/19:09] <walkndude> faster to bank...I bet
[31 Dec/19:09] <walkndude> to the bank that is
[31 Dec/19:09] ! ChiwiGal is known as QT^ShoWa
[31 Dec/19:10] <whizd> right
[31 Dec/19:10] <whizd> divorced x 2
[31 Dec/19:11] <walkndude> Lisa wouldn't let me go
[31 Dec/19:11] <whizd> can always ask
[31 Dec/19:11] <walkndude> nooooo
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[31 Dec/19:12] <whizd> <--would not advise asking
[31 Dec/19:13] <walkndude> no she's already mad at me..been off all week and I haven't done one thing around the house
[31 Dec/19:14] <walkndude> well I checked the mail once
[31 Dec/19:15] <walkndude> the Bowl game is friday nite
[31 Dec/19:15] <whizd> Well she would be mad at me to then
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[31 Dec/19:17] <whizd> Me and mitch might watch with?
[31 Dec/19:18] <man00> I plan to watch it
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[31 Dec/19:19] <walkndude> thinking about hitting the sack soon
[31 Dec/19:20] <whizd> not me
[31 Dec/19:20] <whizd> springdale is online.......
[31 Dec/19:21] <walkndude> oh on aol
[31 Dec/19:21] <whizd> yeah
[31 Dec/19:22] <whizd> she can't get on here
[31 Dec/19:22] <whizd> winsoc?
[31 Dec/19:22] <walkndude> huh
[31 Dec/19:22] <walkndude> winsock
[31 Dec/19:22] <walkndude> windows 3.1?
[31 Dec/19:23] <whizd> no 95
[31 Dec/19:23] <walkndude> tell her to install Dial up networking
[31 Dec/19:23] <whizd> will do now
[31 Dec/19:23] <walkndude> no wait
[31 Dec/19:24] <whizd> ?
[31 Dec/19:24] <walkndude> thinking
[31 Dec/19:24] <LosGuy> what version of win95?
[31 Dec/19:24] <walkndude> may cuz trouble with AOL
[31 Dec/19:25] <whizd> hold on
[31 Dec/19:25] <LosGuy> MS has a more recent winsock stack on their site I belive 
[31 Dec/19:25] <whizd> w
[31 Dec/19:25] <whizd> She doesn't know?
[31 Dec/19:25] <walkndude> been a while since I messed around with AOL
[31 Dec/19:26] <whizd> I have no problems
[31 Dec/19:26] <whizd> with it
[31 Dec/19:27] <walkndude> but your dial up was already installed befor AOL
[31 Dec/19:27] <whizd> right
[31 Dec/19:28] <walkndude> well do what LosGuy said..and try it
[31 Dec/19:30] <LosGuy> can always reinstall the AOL stuff cant you?
[31 Dec/19:30] <LosGuy> how is it that she can get on AOL with no winsock?
[31 Dec/19:30] <LosGuy> I bet that winsock (or a componant) is just in the wrong place
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[31 Dec/19:31] <whizd> that makes sense Los
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[31 Dec/19:31] <walkndude> AOl did have their own winsock
[31 Dec/19:31] <BelieveIt> hi all
[31 Dec/19:32] <whizd> I think reinstalling might be an answer
[31 Dec/19:33] <walkndude> getting another provider is the best answer
[31 Dec/19:33] <whizd> well that is beside the point
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[31 Dec/19:36] * BelieveIt would like to know if...anyone has time for a real computer tech explanation? pls message me... ty!
[31 Dec/19:36] <whizd> will do
[31 Dec/19:38] * LosGuy thinks that BelieveIt would be better off asking a question in channel since /msgs are against channel policy here and no one wants to try to awnser a question that they have not heard asked yet
[31 Dec/19:38] <walkndude> didn't one of the AOL upgrades got shipped with a virus 
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[31 Dec/19:38] <Smokee> hey can someone help me_
[31 Dec/19:38] <whizd> will do
[31 Dec/19:39] <BelieveIt> thanks much...really appreciate the info!
[31 Dec/19:39] <Smokee> i need to find a driver for my hd
[31 Dec/19:39] <Smokee> a maxtor 7245 AT
[31 Dec/19:39] <Smokee> don't know where to find it
[31 Dec/19:40] <LosGuy> tried windrivers.com ?
[31 Dec/19:40] <Smokee> nope
[31 Dec/19:40] <Smokee> what should i put in the search_
[31 Dec/19:40] <LosGuy> or maxtors site?
[31 Dec/19:41] <LosGuy> gee  maxtor 7245 AT sounds logical :P
[31 Dec/19:41] <Smokee> couldn't find it on maxtor, will you help me look, im in desperate need...y2k will destroy it..
[31 Dec/19:41] <LosGuy> sorry I am busy 
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[31 Dec/19:41] <walkndude> driver?
[31 Dec/19:42] <Smokee> i will loose all my tax info for the last 8 years, i beg u...the irs will eat me alive
[31 Dec/19:42] <LosGuy> Smokee just set yer clock back
[31 Dec/19:43] <Smokee> will that work?
[31 Dec/19:43] <LosGuy> you wont have to worry bout y2k
[31 Dec/19:43] <LosGuy> if your clock says 199x
[31 Dec/19:44] <walkndude> driver for a HD?
[31 Dec/19:44] <Smokee> k, but i still need to get that driver
[31 Dec/19:44] <Smokee> help me plz...
[31 Dec/19:44] <Smokee> i don't know how to find it
[31 Dec/19:46] <Smokee> will anyone here help me find that driver?
[31 Dec/19:46] <walkndude> I dunno what driver you need
[31 Dec/19:46] <BelieveIt> Question:  Here it goes...I found a log today that blew me away...I am intrigued by the info listed here and would love for someone to explain their meaning...  I clicked on CTRL Panel/Modems/Advanced Connection Settings & View Log      Has anyone ever tried to interpret this log?
[31 Dec/19:47] <Smokee> the driver for maxtor 7245 at hard drive
[31 Dec/19:47] * BelieveIt waits excitedly
[31 Dec/19:48] <BelieveIt> brb
[31 Dec/19:48] <Smokee> saw it, so what?
[31 Dec/19:49] <Smokee> walkndude: will ya look for it?
[31 Dec/19:49] * LosGuy wonders what is so interesting about a modem log
[31 Dec/19:50] <LosGuy> try 56k.com for more info BelieveIt
[31 Dec/19:51] <BelieveIt> hmm
[31 Dec/19:51] <BelieveIt> the question was "Has anyone ever tried to interpret this log?"  do you know what it all says?
[31 Dec/19:52] <BelieveIt> i just wondered if anyone really knew the meaning of some of these codes...guess not huh?
[31 Dec/19:52] <walkndude> smokee..just put the drive back in the computer as a slave
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[31 Dec/19:54] <BelieveIt> LosGuy...would you explain what 56k.com is?  and my modem is not a 56k...does that matter?
[31 Dec/19:54] <LosGuy> BelieveIt I belive 56k.com has the modem string info you want do I want to try to interperet your log? no
[31 Dec/19:54] <LosGuy> no
[31 Dec/19:54] <BelieveIt> lol
[31 Dec/19:55] <BelieveIt> or even your own log?
[31 Dec/19:55] <BelieveIt> have you ever?
[31 Dec/19:55] <walkndude> Smokee didn't Big Ed go through this already with you?
[31 Dec/19:55] <LosGuy> those are just codes that mean things to your modem ie connedt what protocol to use how the negotiations went on the connection and eventually probably the hang up 
[31 Dec/19:55] <Smokee> yeah, but his plan didn't work
[31 Dec/19:56] <Smokee> got to http://www.nstor.com/genesis_s/segment1/techinfo/disk/data_sheets/MAXTOR.7245/MAXTOR.7245_1.html
[31 Dec/19:56] <BelieveIt> i think i was able to determine those LosGuy...it was the other I was intrigued by!
[31 Dec/19:56] <walkndude> http://web.aimnet.com/~jnavas/modem/faq.html
[31 Dec/19:56] <Smokee> and look at the picture...where do i want my jumper so it will be slave
[31 Dec/19:56] <walkndude> try there too BelieveIt
[31 Dec/19:56] <BelieveIt> nope
[31 Dec/19:57] <BelieveIt> not until you tell me why i should
[31 Dec/19:57] <LosGuy> BelieveIt ... I dont even know what info it was you found so interesting
[31 Dec/19:57] <BelieveIt> i go nowhere unless i know why I should
[31 Dec/19:57] <LosGuy> then dont
[31 Dec/19:57] <whizd> hard case
[31 Dec/19:57] <BelieveIt> won't
[31 Dec/19:57] <BelieveIt> not really
[31 Dec/19:58] <BelieveIt> just wondered if anyone has been able to interpret the codes found here and was expecting a no {i haven't tried} or yes I have and understand them...would have liked to learn about this coding!  That simple!
[31 Dec/19:59] <walkndude>  Slave in dual drive system         ¦   ¦   ¦   ¦ O ¦   ¦   ¦   ¦   ¦
[31 Dec/19:59] @ mode #win98 [+so walkndude] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[31 Dec/19:59] @ mode #win98 [-s] by Tribble!biged98@chat.eskimo.com
[31 Dec/19:59] <BelieveIt> sorry if i bothered anyone };  not my intention at all!
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[31 Dec/19:59] <Smokee> WHAT?
[31 Dec/20:00] <Smokee> there are only 4 posisions...
[31 Dec/20:01] <walkndude> try the last one away from the power connection
[31 Dec/20:01] <Smokee> oki
[31 Dec/20:01] <LosGuy> hmm a HD without a jumper guide on it?
[31 Dec/20:02] <walkndude> hmm, this is getting pointless
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[31 Dec/20:03] <walkndude> didn't Ed go over all of this before with him?
[31 Dec/20:03] <whizd> anyone know anything about traffic signals?
[31 Dec/20:04] <walkndude> ask wez
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[31 Dec/20:04] <walkndude> hehe
[31 Dec/20:05] <whizd> omitywez...yeah he'll know
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[31 Dec/20:08] <walkndude> I really didn't how to help smokee other than doing what I said to do
[31 Dec/20:08] <uni> my sound card will play midi but not any other format.....can someone help me???
[31 Dec/20:09] <LosGuy> creative?
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[31 Dec/20:10] <uni> no aztech sound 16
[31 Dec/20:10] <LosGuy> hmm 
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[31 Dec/20:10] <LosGuy> what resources is it using?
[31 Dec/20:11] <uni> i just reformated and it gave me ir errors so i went and switched them in system and made it 5.....
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[31 Dec/20:12] <LosGuy> sheez I have seen this somewhere before uni and it had to do with it not liking a certain IRQ (or requiring it) but I dont remember where I saw it
[31 Dec/20:13] <LosGuy> is it PCI or ISA?
[31 Dec/20:13] <uni> ias
[31 Dec/20:13] <uni> isa
[31 Dec/20:13] <LosGuy> then find the IRQ you want and reserve it in bios?
[31 Dec/20:13] <uni> like what should i try
[31 Dec/20:13] <uni> like 7 or 9?
[31 Dec/20:14] <LosGuy> aztech should have the info you want on their site (but I seem to remember 9 being the cause of the problem)
[31 Dec/20:14] <uni> if i double click on the speaker icon next to like task scheduler and stuff....it shows that the wav....is being in use
[31 Dec/20:16] <walkndude> might be a device driver update for the MB (IRQ routing) that may help?
[31 Dec/20:16] <uni> does aztech have a web site to get drivers?
[31 Dec/20:17] <walkndude> http://www.aztechca.com/frame_support.htm
[31 Dec/20:17] <uni> thanks
[31 Dec/20:18] <LosGuy> which card is it?
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[31 Dec/20:18] <Trebas> NE1 around?
[31 Dec/20:19] <uni> aztech sound galaxy washington 16
[31 Dec/20:19] <LosGuy> haha what a name
[31 Dec/20:20] <Trebas> ALosguy: OK..I have ICS working 100% now. But I can't start any servers?? 
[31 Dec/20:20] * LosGuy is assuming it is the Aztech SC 16-3D
[31 Dec/20:20] <uni> yea its an old crap card...i got it out of my first comp i had...my ol 486 pac bell....and just kept using it when i built my new one
[31 Dec/20:21] <uni> im trying to find some drivers for it now on there site
[31 Dec/20:22] <LosGuy> uni walkndude was refering to your mb as the problem when he said drivers (not that deleting it and reinstalling drivers (most recent) might not help)
[31 Dec/20:22] <LosGuy> and check out the manual too they have one in .pdf
[31 Dec/20:22] <LosGuy> Trebas...hang on
[31 Dec/20:23] <uni> ok
[31 Dec/20:23] <Trebas> Losguy: K...THX!
[31 Dec/20:24] <LosGuy> Trebas go here there is not much I can do to help you as I dont run servers at all off of ICS (in fact I dont even use ICS anymore)
[31 Dec/20:24] <LosGuy> http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q231/1/62.ASP  <--- mapping ports using ICS
[31 Dec/20:25] <Trebas> O....Losguy. Do you know a better way of sharing the internet? 
[31 Dec/20:25] <LosGuy> my personal favorite is winroute
[31 Dec/20:25] <LosGuy> but sygate works well also
[31 Dec/20:25] <Trebas> Just as easy??
[31 Dec/20:26] <LosGuy> winroute is a very tiny bit harder but works better imho sygate works better and is just as easy
[31 Dec/20:26] <Trebas> Both free?
[31 Dec/20:26] <LosGuy> no
[31 Dec/20:26] <LosGuy> but both have trials
[31 Dec/20:26] <walkndude> I'm off to bed 
[31 Dec/20:27] <LosGuy> nite walkndude
[31 Dec/20:27] <Trebas> OK..good.
[31 Dec/20:27] <whizd> later walkndude
[31 Dec/20:27] <walkndude> tou all have a good one
[31 Dec/20:27] <walkndude> you
[31 Dec/20:27] <LosGuy> wingate is also quite popular (I have never used it though)
[31 Dec/20:27] <Trebas> Losguy: Where can I find WinRoute? 
[31 Dec/20:27] <LosGuy> newest version is not so insecure out of the box (like older ones that were not configured properly were)
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[31 Dec/20:28] <LosGuy> add .com to all the names
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[31 Dec/20:29] <Trebas> Losguy: you know that link you gave me.....do I copy all that and make an .INF file?
[31 Dec/20:30] <LosGuy> yes Trebas but .. I cant really help you on that.. I have not done it
[31 Dec/20:30] <Trebas> OK..sorry. But do you know where I can find WINROUTE?
[31 Dec/20:30] <LosGuy> but when I read it a while back that is what it said
[31 Dec/20:30] <LosGuy> already awnsered that 
[31 Dec/20:32] <Trebas> Ohh...OK...add .com to all the names...didn't catch that one...there's an OOPS!
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[31 Dec/20:47] <Trebas> Losyguy: You still there? 
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[31 Dec/20:57] <D_Diggler> Ive got a blank system folder that shows up in "my computer" that I want to get rid of, anyone know how???
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[31 Dec/20:58] <LosGuy> it is a .cpl file
[31 Dec/20:58] <LosGuy> you will need to find which one it is
[31 Dec/20:59] <LosGuy> or install tweakUI
[31 Dec/20:59] <LosGuy> and use it to hide it
[31 Dec/21:00] <D_Diggler> dont know what it is, it doesnt show in explorer, only my computer
[31 Dec/21:00] <D_Diggler> and doesnt show in tweak
[31 Dec/21:01] <LosGuy> then try to find which .cpl file it is
[31 Dec/21:01] <LosGuy> and delete it
[31 Dec/21:01] <LosGuy> probably some program that you deleted 
[31 Dec/21:01] <LosGuy> but the .cpl never got removed
[31 Dec/21:01] <D_Diggler> there arent any cpl's that I cant account for....
[31 Dec/21:02] <LosGuy> dunno what to tell you then
[31 Dec/21:02] <D_Diggler> strange....
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[31 Dec/21:07] <Azmodan> back in a bit
[31 Dec/21:07] <Azmodan> have to move the pc
[31 Dec/21:08] <LosGuy> k
[31 Dec/21:08] <D_Diggler> sorry, lost connection, did anyone have an answer as to deleting a system folder????
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[31 Dec/22:36] <Anthon_00> hello everybody
[31 Dec/22:36] <Azmodan> hi
[31 Dec/22:37] <Anthon_00> Does anybody know how to pass a mroxy with Telnet
[31 Dec/22:37] <Anthon_00> proxy, sorry
[31 Dec/22:37] <Azmodan> lol
[31 Dec/22:37] <Azmodan> was just going to ask what that was
[31 Dec/22:38] <Azmodan> now what do you meant by "pass a proxy"
[31 Dec/22:39] <Anthon_00> well, in iur configuration here, all our internettraffic is going trough the proxy in Great Britain. He stops everything that doesn't use port80, so, can I cheat, and use other ports in a way the proxy thinks it all passes trough port 80
[31 Dec/22:40] <Azmodan> anthon, there is some software called http tunnel out there somewhere
[31 Dec/22:40] <Azmodan> but it has to be run on the server
[31 Dec/22:40] <Anthon_00> Gonna be a hard one...have to swim to britain
[31 Dec/22:41] <Azmodan> hehe
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[31 Dec/22:57] <Pete_> howdy all
[31 Dec/22:58] <Pete_> ??
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[31 Dec/22:59] <Azmodan> another problem solved
[31 Dec/23:01] <LosGuy> time server 198.83.19.241
[31 Dec/23:01] <LosGuy> black-ice.cc.vt.edu
[31 Dec/23:01] <LosGuy> another
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[31 Dec/23:26] <Azmodan> hehe
[31 Dec/23:26] <Azmodan> I'm useing chronos.cru.fr
[31 Dec/23:27] <Azmodan> its one of the primary servers
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[01 Jan/00:35] <Cue_Ball> hello
[01 Jan/00:36] <Azmodan> hi
[01 Jan/00:36] <Cue_Ball> I have a question reguarding my Windows 98 CD
[01 Jan/00:36] <Cue_Ball> It doesn't seem to work
[01 Jan/00:37] <Azmodan> do other cd's work?
[01 Jan/00:37] <Cue_Ball> yes
[01 Jan/00:37] <Azmodan> is the underside of the cd scratched?
[01 Jan/00:37] <Cue_Ball> a little
[01 Jan/00:37] <Cue_Ball> nothing major
[01 Jan/00:38] <Azmodan> try getting some scratch removeal stuff from your local computer store
[01 Jan/00:38] <Cue_Ball> and it will work in anyone elses CD-ROM
[01 Jan/00:38] <Azmodan> it will?
[01 Jan/00:38] <Cue_Ball> yes
[01 Jan/00:38] <Azmodan> then clean you own cdrom drive's heads
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[01 Jan/00:39] <Cue_Ball> will a typical CD Player cleaner work?
[01 Jan/00:39] <Azmodan> yeah
[01 Jan/00:39] <Cue_Ball> alright
[01 Jan/00:39] <Cue_Ball> I thought I was in trouble for a second
[01 Jan/00:41] <Cue_Ball> also
[01 Jan/00:41] <Cue_Ball> If I formated my HD
[01 Jan/00:41] <Azmodan> aha
[01 Jan/00:42] <Cue_Ball> would windows detect all my hardware?
[01 Jan/00:42] <Azmodan> it should detect what you have
[01 Jan/00:42] <Cue_Ball> alright
[01 Jan/00:44] <Cue_Ball> you are wise with the Windows
[01 Jan/00:44] ! Hard is known as Wired
[01 Jan/00:44] <Azmodan> I have many in my house
[01 Jan/00:45] <Cue_Ball> as do I
[01 Jan/00:45] <Azmodan> (and yes I do mean the Microsoft kind)
[01 Jan/00:45] <Cue_Ball> hehe
[01 Jan/00:45] <Cue_Ball> you have your own lan
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[01 Jan/00:50] <LosGuy> yes he does
[01 Jan/00:50] <Azmodan> doh
[01 Jan/00:50] <Cue_Ball> :(
[01 Jan/00:50] <Azmodan> yes I do
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[01 Jan/00:51] <Cue_Ball> seems like everyone does
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[01 Jan/00:52] <LosGuy> they can be done pretty cheaply now 
[01 Jan/00:52] <Cue_Ball> heh
[01 Jan/00:52] <Cue_Ball> I need another PC
[01 Jan/00:53] <LosGuy> oh yeah that would be a first step
[01 Jan/00:53] <Azmodan> hehehehe
[01 Jan/00:53] <Cue_Ball> I will link all my C64s and TRS-80s....
[01 Jan/00:53] <Azmodan> I could lend you a z80 router if ya like
[01 Jan/00:54] <Cue_Ball> :(
[01 Jan/00:54] <Cue_Ball> hehe
[01 Jan/00:54] <Cue_Ball> My friend said he is going to start his own wan
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[01 Jan/00:56] <Azmodan> oh
[01 Jan/00:56] <Azmodan> he might need the zx81 router then
[01 Jan/00:57] <Cue_Ball> he could get one
[01 Jan/00:57] <Cue_Ball> He can get almost anything like that from work
[01 Jan/00:58] <Cue_Ball> or so he says
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[01 Jan/01:02] <ThAmsTeR> do anyone have drivers to Targa Funlin ts600???
[01 Jan/01:02] <LosGuy> try windrivers.com
[01 Jan/01:06] <Cue_Ball> I am gone to play Quake
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[01 Jan/01:16] <ramses> Anyone in here know how I can back up my hard drive , using windows backup and my cd writer ?
[01 Jan/01:17] <Azmodan> hrmm
[01 Jan/01:17] <Azmodan> is it a cdrw?
[01 Jan/01:17] <ramses> yea
[01 Jan/01:18] <ramses> HP cd writer plus
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[01 Jan/01:20] <Azmodan> should not be a problem them
[01 Jan/01:21] <ramses> how ?
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[01 Jan/01:24] <ViPeR3000> Anybody know what program has this extension .msf It should be a program like for making screensavers/slideshows. Anybody know the exact name??
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[01 Jan/01:44] <mast> i can`t believe this......
[01 Jan/01:44] <mast> voodoo 3
[01 Jan/01:44] <mast> with celeron
[01 Jan/01:44] <mast> 466
[01 Jan/01:45] <mast> 3dmarks:2089!
[01 Jan/01:45] <mast> the lowest.......why`s that?
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[01 Jan/01:57] <cd-writer> can someone help me plz?
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[01 Jan/01:59] <Bajed> hey... why will "net use H: \\mymachine\homedir" work in a command prompt but not in a bat file?
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[01 Jan/02:35] <BlkPoohba> hey all
[01 Jan/02:35] <BlkPoohba> is there a place where i can find help for excel?
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[01 Jan/02:41] <fogfoe> can someone help me with a major cdrom problem?
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[01 Jan/03:43] <Nik> anyone know somewhere offering free pop3 email?
[01 Jan/03:44] <CJ^> nope...
[01 Jan/03:44] <CJ^> but  have ya searched yet?
[01 Jan/03:44] <Nik> yeah... 
[01 Jan/03:44] <Nik> i cant find any
[01 Jan/03:44] <Nik> i'm sure there is one with a similar name to hotmail.
[01 Jan/03:44] <Nik> just cant remember it
[01 Jan/03:45] <Nik> damn
[01 Jan/03:45] <CJ^> http://www.fepg.net/pop3.html  << odd
[01 Jan/03:45] <CJ^> foud some right away
[01 Jan/03:45] <Nik> what search engine did you use?
[01 Jan/03:45] <CJ^> go.com
[01 Jan/03:45] <CJ^> snap.com
[01 Jan/03:45] <Nik> ok
[01 Jan/03:45] <CJ^> altavista.com
[01 Jan/03:45] <CJ^> yahoo.com
[01 Jan/03:46] <CJ^> all came up with teh same link
[01 Jan/03:46] <Nik> ahh. found the one i wanted hotpop.com
[01 Jan/03:46] <CJ^>  "free pop3 email"
[01 Jan/03:47] <CJ^> `op
[01 Jan/03:55] < SignOff: CJ^!~skippy@ip207.tacoma17.wa.pub-ip.psi.net (<<ÐêtóÑ8®>>v3.0 Internet terrorism at its finest.)
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[01 Jan/04:50] <sweetness> hello
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[01 Jan/04:55] <Spark|e> Hi does anyone know anything about internet explorer 
[01 Jan/04:55] <Netwave> spark what do you want to know maybe i can help
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[01 Jan/04:57] <Mok95> Hi all!
[01 Jan/04:57] <Mok95> trying to find out info on directdraw...
[01 Jan/04:58] <Mok95> a math program I have needs version 5.0
[01 Jan/04:58] <Mok95> does anyone know something about it?
[01 Jan/05:05] <Mok95> nobody's awake?
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[01 Jan/05:24] <Cairo^> anyone have the office 97 SR-2b patch?  I'd really appreciate it
[01 Jan/05:25] <CJ^> it should still be available at MS office site
[01 Jan/05:26] <CJ^> `op
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[01 Jan/05:26] <CJ^> `op
[01 Jan/05:26] <walkndude> morning
[01 Jan/05:26] <CJ^> `op
[01 Jan/05:26] <CJ^> `op
[01 Jan/05:26] <CJ^> `op
[01 Jan/05:27] <Cairo^> CJ: yeah right. yu tried getting in to ms today?  they're getting hammered by morons like me, panicking cuz they waited till literralt the LAST day to make sure their boxes are y2k compliant
[01 Jan/05:27] <CJ^> `op
[01 Jan/05:27] <walkndude> `op
[01 Jan/05:27] <CJ^> http://www.windrivers.com/servpack/index.htm   << try here
[01 Jan/05:27] <walkndude> `op
[01 Jan/05:28] <CJ^> they aint opping  grrrrrrr
[01 Jan/05:28] <Cairo^> thanks man
[01 Jan/05:28] <walkndude> `op
[01 Jan/05:29] <walkndude> nope
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[01 Jan/05:30] <walkndude> morning Big Ed
[01 Jan/05:30] <Big`Ed> good morning!
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[01 Jan/05:31] <CJ^> morn ed
[01 Jan/05:31] <Big`Ed> good morning!
[01 Jan/05:31] <Big`Ed> hows life walk n - cj?
[01 Jan/05:32] <Big`Ed> `say
[01 Jan/05:32] <walkndude> very good
[01 Jan/05:32] <Big`Ed> kewl - enjoying the LAST holiday (of this year?)
[01 Jan/05:33] <walkndude> gotta run to the dentist here in a few :(
[01 Jan/05:33] <CJ^> not bad....
[01 Jan/05:33] <Big`Ed> dentist! yuk
[01 Jan/05:33] <walkndude> dentist= $$$
[01 Jan/05:33] <Big`Ed> dentist = prepaid (for me)
[01 Jan/05:34] <walkndude> my insurance isn't that great
[01 Jan/05:34] <walkndude> it may pay 20%.....tops
[01 Jan/05:34] <Big`Ed> just think - won't have to pay them anymore this year
[01 Jan/05:34] <Big`Ed> yikes
[01 Jan/05:34] <Big`Ed> not good
[01 Jan/05:35] <Big`Ed> is that why 3/4 the girls in okie have rotten teeth?
[01 Jan/05:35] <walkndude> yeah maybe his billing system on the computer isn't y2k and he'll lose everything
[01 Jan/05:35] <Big`Ed> hehe
[01 Jan/05:35] <walkndude> it and that they nurse until they're 23
[01 Jan/05:36] <Big`Ed> nothing wrong with that :)
[01 Jan/05:36] <Big`Ed> cept mommies tits look like 1/2 filled water ballons
[01 Jan/05:36] <walkndude> depends...you been away for a while now
[01 Jan/05:37] <walkndude> heheh..when they sleep on their back they fall under the armpits
[01 Jan/05:37] <Big`Ed> in sw okie - we used to say there was a girl behind every tree
[01 Jan/05:37] <Big`Ed> hehe
[01 Jan/05:38] <Big`Ed> (cept sw okie is very desert like - and no tree's
[01 Jan/05:38] <walkndude> in eastern we say there's ______ in every wood pile
[01 Jan/05:38] <Big`Ed> hehe
[01 Jan/05:39] <walkndude> what age does the eye sight go..40?
[01 Jan/05:40] <Big`Ed> mine started sooner
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[01 Jan/05:41] <Big`Ed> `op
[01 Jan/05:41] <walkndude> someone bought my son a am/fm radio kit and I don't have the eyes to see anymore
[01 Jan/05:41] <Big`Ed> `say
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[01 Jan/05:42] <Big`Ed> hehe
[01 Jan/05:42] <Big`Ed> thats bad
[01 Jan/05:42] <Elysian> hi
[01 Jan/05:42] <Big`Ed> hi Elysian
[01 Jan/05:42] <walkndude> hello Elysian
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[01 Jan/05:42] <Elysian> howsit?
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[01 Jan/05:43] <Elysian> `down
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[01 Jan/05:43] <Elysian> `up
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[01 Jan/05:44] <Big`Ed> `down
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[01 Jan/05:44] @ mode #win98 [+o Big`Ed] by Tribble!biged98@chat.eskimo.com
[01 Jan/05:44] <Big`Ed> hehe
[01 Jan/05:44] <Big`Ed> they like me
[01 Jan/05:44] <walkndude> the guy smokee came back lastnight (the one with the data on a older drive) and back and back
[01 Jan/05:44] <Elysian> high today is 68 here
[01 Jan/05:44] <Elysian> !
[01 Jan/05:44] <Big`Ed> hehe - he don't know how to do it does he?
[01 Jan/05:45] <Big`Ed> thats HOT Elysian
[01 Jan/05:45] <Elysian> its insanity here....
[01 Jan/05:45] <Elysian> i work 4:00 - 10:00
[01 Jan/05:45] <walkndude> bout the same here
[01 Jan/05:45] <Elysian> i might go in bout 2 or so
[01 Jan/05:45] <Big`Ed> just all the texans going out for extra bullets for tonight
[01 Jan/05:45] * Elysian might go swimming in his cement pond
[01 Jan/05:45] <Big`Ed> going to sell lots then with the heat
[01 Jan/05:46] * Big`Ed mentions to Elysian - don't forget the water jethro
[01 Jan/05:46] <Elysian> heheh
[01 Jan/05:46] <Elysian> true
[01 Jan/05:46] <Elysian> our cement pond is actually empty right now!
[01 Jan/05:46] <Elysian> hehe
[01 Jan/05:46] <Elysian> just maybe half a foot of water
[01 Jan/05:46] <walkndude> jethro= double knot spy
[01 Jan/05:47] <Big`Ed> wonder if jethro would have cyphered the water level if Big`Ed had NOT mentioned it
[01 Jan/05:47] <Elysian> hehe
[01 Jan/05:48] <walkndude> I can watch that show still and laugh and laugh, my wife will never crack a smile
[01 Jan/05:48] <walkndude> same with the Marx bros
[01 Jan/05:48] <Elysian> beverly hillbillies kick
[01 Jan/05:49] <Big`Ed> your wife don't crack a smile for the marx?
[01 Jan/05:49] <Big`Ed> what does put a smile on her face? jetsons?
[01 Jan/05:49] <Elysian> hmm az is still on so all must be well in new zealand
[01 Jan/05:49] <walkndude> WEeee Dogies
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[01 Jan/05:49] <Big`Ed> heh
[01 Jan/05:49] <RIP> Heya Big Ed can you help me again *begging*
[01 Jan/05:49] <Big`Ed> on?
[01 Jan/05:50] <walkndude> no begging
[01 Jan/05:50] <RIP> Hard Drive using Ms-Dos Compatibility
[01 Jan/05:50] <Big`Ed> (girls can beg if pretty)
[01 Jan/05:50] <walkndude> ok sorry
[01 Jan/05:50] <Big`Ed> are you loading drivers in DOS (config.sys or autoexec.bat)
[01 Jan/05:50] <RIP> well I dont want to demand
[01 Jan/05:50] <RIP> lol
[01 Jan/05:50] <RIP> not even using config.sys or Autoexec.bat
[01 Jan/05:50] <Big`Ed> (but a girl has to have a pic)
[01 Jan/05:51] <walkndude> Ed=king of the pics
[01 Jan/05:51] <Big`Ed> was it allways this way? (compatability mode)
[01 Jan/05:51] <RIP> nope
[01 Jan/05:51] <Big`Ed> hehe
[01 Jan/05:51] <Big`Ed> when did you notice the error?
[01 Jan/05:51] <RIP> I just did a clean format after I installed my motherboard and processor
[01 Jan/05:51] <RIP> and reinstalled windows and then the ide bus mastering software
[01 Jan/05:51] <walkndude> ah
[01 Jan/05:51] <Big`Ed> clean format - so the HD was prepared with win98 fdisk
[01 Jan/05:52] <RIP> nope...ez-disk
[01 Jan/05:52] <Big`Ed> and did you need the bus-master software?
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[01 Jan/05:52] <Big`Ed> was it in compatable before that?
[01 Jan/05:52] <RIP> according to the computer store I did
[01 Jan/05:52] <Casm> hi ppl
[01 Jan/05:52] <RIP> I dont think so
[01 Jan/05:53] <Big`Ed> rip - ezdisk puts a DOS overlay in place before winders
[01 Jan/05:53] * Elysian is trying to get "The Show Must Go On"
[01 Jan/05:53] <Elysian> by queen
[01 Jan/05:53] <Big`Ed> to trick the pc to see the drive IT's way
[01 Jan/05:53] <Big`Ed> good tune
[01 Jan/05:53] <RIP> so I may be screwed then
[01 Jan/05:53] <walkndude> overlay isn't a good thing ..IMO
[01 Jan/05:54] <RIP> IMO??
[01 Jan/05:54] <Big`Ed> well - can start fresh and pull the ezdisk off
[01 Jan/05:54] <RIP> I need to have ezdisk
[01 Jan/05:54] <Big`Ed> i agree with walkndude - imho
[01 Jan/05:54] * Elysian doesn't wanna work:(
[01 Jan/05:54] <Big`Ed> why ?
[01 Jan/05:54] <RIP> my bios doesnt recognize my 20Gig Hard drive
[01 Jan/05:54] <Casm> can anyone help me plz? i got a RAR archive that is showing up as .bmp files.
[01 Jan/05:54] <Big`Ed> did it stop at 8?
[01 Jan/05:54] <RIP> yep
[01 Jan/05:54] <Casm> they arent bmp files
[01 Jan/05:54] <walkndude> may be an update for the bios
[01 Jan/05:54] <Big`Ed> rip - bios update for that then 99% of the time
[01 Jan/05:55] <RIP> bios is rather new and there is no update 
[01 Jan/05:55] <Big`Ed> your 100% sure of that?
[01 Jan/05:55] <walkndude> I gotta run to the dentist...you all have a great day
[01 Jan/05:55] <RIP> couldnt I partition the drive...
[01 Jan/05:55] <Big`Ed> good luck walkndude
[01 Jan/05:55] <walkndude> thanks
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[01 Jan/05:55] <RIP> yep went to the motherboard manufacturers home page
[01 Jan/05:55] <Big`Ed> rip - the situation is the ez- software - that is before partition
[01 Jan/05:56] <RIP> huh
[01 Jan/05:56] <Big`Ed> i can't believe any NEW motherboard has the INT13 problem and 8gb limit
[01 Jan/05:56] <RIP> yeah I seen the INT13 under system properties but unsure of what it was
[01 Jan/05:56] <Big`Ed> the ez- software tells the bios what the HD is
[01 Jan/05:57] <Big`Ed> not in win98 - it is a bios issue for the int13
[01 Jan/05:57] <Big`Ed> what is your mb?
[01 Jan/05:57] <RIP> wait I dont have to use the ez software...if I fdisk the hard drive that will get rid of everything right
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[01 Jan/05:57] <Cairo^> thanks Elysian.  learn something new every day :)
[01 Jan/05:57] <RIP> would be a Jet 542b/542bs
[01 Jan/05:58] <Big`Ed> but you said the bios did NOT recoginzie above 8gb
[01 Jan/05:58] <RIP> yeah thats true
[01 Jan/05:58] <Big`Ed> what is the brand of mb?
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[01 Jan/05:59] * Elysian is gonna get on the net at midnight tonight!:)
[01 Jan/06:00] <Elysian> in all the comp magazines i've seen it says everyone should keep off the net:)
[01 Jan/06:00] <Elysian> and fones
[01 Jan/06:00] <Big`Ed> bios version C021 - dated 4/9/99
[01 Jan/06:00] <Big`Ed> that is OLD
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[01 Jan/06:00] <Elysian> they figure people will call all their relatives and stuff to see if their fones work
[01 Jan/06:00] <Cairo^> i've also heard everyone should unplug everything in the house
[01 Jan/06:01] <Cairo^> in case of a power surge
[01 Jan/06:01] <Big`Ed> yea they are cautioning to not call 911 either
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[01 Jan/06:01] <Big`Ed> if the east coast does that - more power for the west
[01 Jan/06:01] <Elysian> hey whats fic's web page again?
[01 Jan/06:02] <Big`Ed> its all hogwash - just another night in america
[01 Jan/06:02] <Trebas> OK....can someone help me. I've just made an .INI file to open up ports on the ICS. Now when I right-click on it I can't see the INSTALL function. How else can I install an INI??
[01 Jan/06:02] <Big`Ed> www.fica.com
[01 Jan/06:03] <Cairo^> in nt yu can use regserv32.exe not sure bout 98
[01 Jan/06:03] <Elysian> thanx ed
[01 Jan/06:03] <Big`Ed> that feature is for a 'INF'
[01 Jan/06:03] <Big`Ed> not a INI
[01 Jan/06:03] <Trebas> Yes....sory INF.
[01 Jan/06:04] <Big`Ed> inf's are by default registered as a setup file
[01 Jan/06:04] <Big`Ed> but yours does not give you the option?
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[01 Jan/06:05] <Flinston3> hi
[01 Jan/06:05] <Flinston3> a friend
[01 Jan/06:05] <Big`Ed> hi
[01 Jan/06:05] <Flinston3> used the y2k test and all passed except one called RTC
[01 Jan/06:05] <Flinston3> what is that
[01 Jan/06:05] <Flinston3> and how can it be fixed
[01 Jan/06:05] <Big`Ed> real time clock
[01 Jan/06:05] <Flinston3> if u could please help me
[01 Jan/06:05] <Flinston3> can it be fixed?
[01 Jan/06:05] <Trebas> Nope...I just made it from a MS site....I found my prob BIG ED...it was that I had it as an INI and not and INF. There's an OOPS!! (I seem to do them all the time) OH WELL! THX ALL!
[01 Jan/06:05] <Trebas> Cya Later...and I know I'll be back,
[01 Jan/06:06] <Big`Ed> ok Trebas
[01 Jan/06:06] <Big`Ed> bye
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[01 Jan/06:06] <Big`Ed> Flinston3 - depends
[01 Jan/06:06] <Big`Ed> what is the system?
[01 Jan/06:06] <Flinston3> win98
[01 Jan/06:06] <Elysian> i'm having troubles with the win98 comp recognizing this comp as a ICS server...
[01 Jan/06:07] <Big`Ed> rtc is a bios clock problem
[01 Jan/06:07] <Flinston3> oh
[01 Jan/06:07] <Big`Ed> Elysian - is ics setup right?
[01 Jan/06:07] <Big`Ed> did the y2k scanner give any advice?
[01 Jan/06:07] <Elysian> i guess
[01 Jan/06:07] <Elysian> it looked right
[01 Jan/06:08] <Elysian> it also told me it made this comp a ip over the network of 192.168.0.1
[01 Jan/06:08] <Big`Ed> correct
[01 Jan/06:08] <Big`Ed> reboot master?
[01 Jan/06:09] <Big`Ed> Flinston3 - http://www.ais.columbia.edu/y2k/html/bios_fix.html
[01 Jan/06:09] <Big`Ed> Several manufacturers are providing BIOS upgrades for the time clock (CMOS RTC or Real Time Clock) on their PCs. Do not attempt this solution unless you are confident about your computer skills. If you turn off the machine while you are installing the upgrade, you can render the PC completely unusable
[01 Jan/06:10] <Big`Ed> Flinston3 - option #1 - is to get the BIOS updated
[01 Jan/06:10] * Elysian hates windows 2k... can't update my bios:(
[01 Jan/06:10] <Flinston3> oh
[01 Jan/06:10] <Big`Ed> option #2 is this link to a software fix
[01 Jan/06:11] <Flinston3> okie
[01 Jan/06:11] <Flinston3> thx
[01 Jan/06:11] <Flinston3> =o)
[01 Jan/06:12] <Big`Ed> actually - that was a university site - so the software there is not downloadable
[01 Jan/06:12] <Elysian> whats ami bios's home page?
[01 Jan/06:12] <Flinston3> he wants to know how to update the bios (option #1)
[01 Jan/06:12] <Elysian> never mind
[01 Jan/06:12] <Elysian> found it
[01 Jan/06:13] <Big`Ed> what is his Motherboard and model # ?
[01 Jan/06:13] <Flinston3> wait
[01 Jan/06:13] <Big`Ed> like:  asus p2b
[01 Jan/06:13] <Flinston3> which is the easy one? the link u gave me?
[01 Jan/06:13] <Big`Ed> http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/downloads/swlib/swcol.y2k.html
[01 Jan/06:13] <Big`Ed> has a link to the software fix
[01 Jan/06:14] <Flinston3> so
[01 Jan/06:14] <Big`Ed> the BEST way is the bios fix
[01 Jan/06:14] <Flinston3> i should
[01 Jan/06:14] <Flinston3> go to this link
[01 Jan/06:14] <Flinston3> okie
[01 Jan/06:14] <Flinston3> any risks?
[01 Jan/06:14] <Big`Ed> ACCUTE-DATE Year 2000 Fix v1.0
[01 Jan/06:14] <Big`Ed> Make your real-time clock Y2K-compliant
[01 Jan/06:14] <Big`Ed> if you do not know how to update - yes
[01 Jan/06:14] <Big`Ed> a computer shop will do it for a small fee
[01 Jan/06:15] <Flinston3> oh
[01 Jan/06:15] <Big`Ed> it is not hard - but as with any change, there is a risk for the inexperienced
[01 Jan/06:15] <Flinston3> ok
[01 Jan/06:15] <Flinston3> thx
[01 Jan/06:15] <Flinston3> i guess
[01 Jan/06:15] <Flinston3> he won't be able to himself
[01 Jan/06:16] <Big`Ed> then use that software patch for now
[01 Jan/06:16] <Big`Ed> and plan to take it in to someone
[01 Jan/06:16] <Flinston3> uhmm
[01 Jan/06:16] <Big`Ed> or have a geek come over for a favor
[01 Jan/06:16] <Flinston3> software patch?
[01 Jan/06:16] <Big`Ed> http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/downloads/swlib/swcol.y2k.html
[01 Jan/06:16] <Flinston3> k
[01 Jan/06:16] <Flinston3> btw
[01 Jan/06:16] <Big`Ed> ACCUTE-DATE
[01 Jan/06:16] <Flinston3> i installed
[01 Jan/06:16] <Big`Ed> fixes the RTC error
[01 Jan/06:16] <Flinston3> a y2k patch
[01 Jan/06:16] <Flinston3> i found
[01 Jan/06:16] <Flinston3> at download.com
[01 Jan/06:16] <Flinston3> says it's from microsoft
[01 Jan/06:17] <Flinston3> what does it exactly do?
[01 Jan/06:17] <Big`Ed> microsoft does not release any RTC software
[01 Jan/06:17] <Flinston3> i mean this should have been for something else then
[01 Jan/06:17] <Flinston3> np thx =o)
[01 Jan/06:17] <Big`Ed> the RTC software needs to run in the 'autoexec.bat' file and start everytime the pc-turns on
[01 Jan/06:17] <Big`Ed> to fix the clock
[01 Jan/06:17] <Flinston3> oh
[01 Jan/06:17] <Big`Ed> your on win98 right?
[01 Jan/06:18] <Flinston3> yup
[01 Jan/06:18] <Big`Ed> go to start - windowsupdates
[01 Jan/06:18] <Flinston3> okie
[01 Jan/06:18] <Big`Ed> and run the microsoft updates from THAT location
[01 Jan/06:18] <Big`Ed> that is from microsoft
[01 Jan/06:18] <Flinston3> kwl
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[01 Jan/06:18] <Big`Ed> not from someone who says it is from microsoft
[01 Jan/06:18] ! huck is known as reebok
[01 Jan/06:18] <Big`Ed> hi ree
[01 Jan/06:18] <reebok> hey ed
[01 Jan/06:19] <Elysian> hi ree
[01 Jan/06:20] <reebok> hey ely
[01 Jan/06:20] <Big`Ed> brb -
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[01 Jan/06:24] <Big`Ed> back
[01 Jan/06:25] <Big`Ed> you killed ely
[01 Jan/06:25] <reebok> I didn't mean to I swear!
[01 Jan/06:25] <Big`Ed> and who is huck?
[01 Jan/06:25] <Big`Ed> relative to jethro?
[01 Jan/06:25] <reebok> huckleberry
[01 Jan/06:25] <reebok> that's the coolest name ever
[01 Jan/06:26] <Big`Ed> better than john
[01 Jan/06:26] <reebok> pretty much
[01 Jan/06:26] <Big`Ed> course thats true about any other name
[01 Jan/06:26] <Big`Ed> hehe
[01 Jan/06:26] <reebok> oh huckleberry!
[01 Jan/06:26] <reebok> man that name rules
[01 Jan/06:27] <Big`Ed> hehe
[01 Jan/06:27] <Big`Ed> FINN
[01 Jan/06:27] <reebok> finny finn finn
[01 Jan/06:27] <Big`Ed> well at least you don't want the name MARY
[01 Jan/06:28] <reebok> mary was cool
[01 Jan/06:28] <reebok> she was like sid I guess
[01 Jan/06:28] <Big`Ed> for YOU
[01 Jan/06:28] <reebok> oh well yeah
[01 Jan/06:28] <reebok> heheh
[01 Jan/06:28] <Big`Ed> `insult wez
[01 Jan/06:29] <reebok> haha
[01 Jan/06:29] <reebok> do you know of an autorefresh program?
[01 Jan/06:29] <reebok> that will refresh a page at intervals
[01 Jan/06:30] <Big`Ed> heard of them, but nope
[01 Jan/06:30] <reebok> dang
[01 Jan/06:30] <Big`Ed> don't know details
[01 Jan/06:34] <Big`Ed> Description: TabSurf is a free web browser that allows the user to surf up 30 web sites at the same time. It can also automatically refresh pages as often as each minute. (Great for news, stock quotes, graph pages and sports scores). 
[01 Jan/06:34] <reebok> oh sweet
[01 Jan/06:34] <Big`Ed> from tucows
[01 Jan/06:34] <reebok> thansk
[01 Jan/06:34] <reebok> thanks too
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[01 Jan/06:35] <reebok> I love havingmy own tucows mirror
[01 Jan/06:35] <Big`Ed> hehe
[01 Jan/06:35] <reebok> tucows.tampabay.rr.com for life
[01 Jan/06:36] <Big`Ed> bah
[01 Jan/06:36] <Big`Ed> you won't be there for LIFE
[01 Jan/06:36] <reebok> nope
[01 Jan/06:36] <reebok> iuware.indiana.edu
[01 Jan/06:36] <reebok> check out all that free stuff
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[01 Jan/06:38] <reebok> all 4 office 2k cd's
[01 Jan/06:38] <Big`Ed> all the free snow and corn you want
[01 Jan/06:38] <reebok> all the ms vs 6 cd's
[01 Jan/06:38] <reebok> hahahahah
[01 Jan/06:38] <reebok> they still have windows 95 on their
[01 Jan/06:38] <reebok> there
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[01 Jan/06:40] <Big`Ed> nice concept
[01 Jan/06:41] <reebok> yeah win2k for $5 is a very nice concept
[01 Jan/06:41] <Big`Ed> won't you get that for free?
[01 Jan/06:42] <reebok> well yeah
[01 Jan/06:42] <Big`Ed> Students may retain the license to use this software after they have left Indiana University
[01 Jan/06:42] <reebok> isn't that awesome?
[01 Jan/06:42] <reebok> you can take it home and stuff too I think
[01 Jan/06:43] <reebok> do you have the day off or something?
[01 Jan/06:43] <Big`Ed> yea - holiday
[01 Jan/06:43] <Big`Ed> for jan1
[01 Jan/06:43] <reebok> cool
[01 Jan/06:43] <reebok> come to think of it
[01 Jan/06:44] <reebok> I don't think my dads working either
[01 Jan/06:44] <Big`Ed> i get to work tommorow though
[01 Jan/06:44] <reebok> yuck
[01 Jan/06:44] <Big`Ed> naw - free / easy overtime
[01 Jan/06:44] <Big`Ed> check out if Y2K caused any problems
[01 Jan/06:44] <reebok> hehe
[01 Jan/06:44] <reebok> shouldn't you monitor that?
[01 Jan/06:44] <Big`Ed> instead of waiting till monday
[01 Jan/06:44] <Big`Ed> well - thats why i'm going in
[01 Jan/06:44] <Big`Ed> to check /monitor
[01 Jan/06:45] <Big`Ed> no one is working after 4 today anyways
[01 Jan/06:45] <Big`Ed> till monday
[01 Jan/06:45] <reebok> ok
[01 Jan/06:45] <Big`Ed> so - monitor is easy
[01 Jan/06:45] <Big`Ed> every pc is 'supposed to be left OFF'
[01 Jan/06:46] <reebok> hehe
[01 Jan/06:46] <Big`Ed> i bet i find at least 2 left on though
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[01 Jan/06:46] <Big`Ed> hi fred
[01 Jan/06:48] <reebok> yeah definitrely
[01 Jan/06:48] <Flinston3> hi =o)
[01 Jan/06:48] <Flinston3> i liked this channel
[01 Jan/06:48] <Flinston3> learn alot in here
[01 Jan/06:48] <Big`Ed> liked - as in past tense
[01 Jan/06:48] <reebok> hehe
[01 Jan/06:52] <Flinston3> heh
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[01 Jan/06:53] <RIP> Heya Big Ed, sorry if I disconnecteed on you earlier..it wasnt intentional...Stepdad trying to be funny disconnected teh plug
[01 Jan/06:54] <Big`Ed> not a problem
[01 Jan/06:54] <RIP> looks like im going to have to do a clean format and re setup the hard drive from what Im reading on the net
[01 Jan/06:54] <Big`Ed> 09:00:33 ·Big`Ed· bios version C021 - dated 4/9/99
[01 Jan/06:54] <Big`Ed> 09:00:35 ·Big`Ed· that is OLD
[01 Jan/06:54] <Big`Ed> is that the BIOS you have installed?
[01 Jan/06:55] <RIP> Yes sure is
[01 Jan/06:55] <Big`Ed> and your sure after using that bios - it did not recognize above 8gb?
[01 Jan/06:55] <Big`Ed> at bios level
[01 Jan/06:55] <RIP> well according to EZ drive my bios doesnt support it
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[01 Jan/06:55] <RIP> the software I use to setup my harddrive
[01 Jan/06:55] <reebok> ack ez drive
[01 Jan/06:56] <Big`Ed> i would try first without
[01 Jan/06:56] <RIP> I shouldnt need ez drive anyways right
[01 Jan/06:56] <Big`Ed> when the computer first comes on there is a screen about the HD's
[01 Jan/06:56] <RIP> just fdisk the drive and format it
[01 Jan/06:56] <Big`Ed> correct
[01 Jan/06:56] <Big`Ed> with your windows98 startup diskette
[01 Jan/06:56] <Big`Ed> not 95
[01 Jan/06:56] <RIP> yep got it
[01 Jan/06:56] <RIP> Im having multiple brain farts lately with computers
[01 Jan/06:56] <RIP> heheh
[01 Jan/06:56] <Big`Ed> but if you bios does NOT see above 8gb
[01 Jan/06:56] <Big`Ed> you may be forced to use it
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[01 Jan/06:57] <Big`Ed> aol-formy
[01 Jan/06:57] <RIP> basically just fdisk/format and try running it up
[01 Jan/06:57] <Singe> hey someone i need help bad
[01 Jan/06:57] <Big`Ed> you will know on fdisk if detected
[01 Jan/06:57] <Big`Ed> bad?
[01 Jan/06:57] <Big`Ed> as in illegal?
[01 Jan/06:57] <RIP> we all do Singe :)
[01 Jan/06:58] <RIP> well time to reinstall win98 again for the 6th time this week
[01 Jan/06:58] <RIP> lol
[01 Jan/06:58] <Singe> no i need to reainstall win95 but i need a win98 startup disk to do so so i will have virtual cdrom support...follow me?
[01 Jan/06:58] <Big`Ed> rip
[01 Jan/06:58] <Big`Ed> after you get it loaded - makesure you go to windowsupdates too
[01 Jan/06:58] <Singe> so im hoping, really bad, that someone could send me a startup disk files email
[01 Jan/06:58] <Big`Ed> Singe - you can't use win98 startup disk for 95
[01 Jan/06:59] <Big`Ed> that is illegal
[01 Jan/06:59] <Big`Ed> see topic (no warez)
[01 Jan/06:59] <Singe> sure i can
[01 Jan/06:59] <Big`Ed> sending the file is illegal
[01 Jan/06:59] <Big`Ed> see topic (NO FILES)
[01 Jan/06:59] <RIP> u dont think that the ide bus mastering may be causing my problem with Compatibility mode problem for harddrive
[01 Jan/06:59] <Singe> all it does is start me up, whatever ed
[01 Jan/06:59] <Singe> is it really?
[01 Jan/06:59] <Big`Ed> `kb Singe
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[01 Jan/07:00] <Big`Ed> rip - without knowing how your HD is detected at DOS/BIOS i can't say
[01 Jan/07:00] <Big`Ed> when you first boot / fdisk
[01 Jan/07:00] <Big`Ed> delete part stuff
[01 Jan/07:00] <RIP> ok
[01 Jan/07:00] <Big`Ed> then reboot
[01 Jan/07:00] <RIP> delete part stuff?
[01 Jan/07:00] <RIP> partition
[01 Jan/07:00] <Big`Ed> yes
[01 Jan/07:00] <RIP> never mind
[01 Jan/07:00] <Big`Ed> then run up fdisk again to creat new
[01 Jan/07:00] <Big`Ed> and see what it see's
[01 Jan/07:00] <reebok> shower time
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[01 Jan/07:00] <Big`Ed> on boot up - make sure you do NOT see any ez- stuff
[01 Jan/07:00] <RIP> ok
[01 Jan/07:01] <RIP> yeah no doubt sick of ez
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[01 Jan/07:01] <Big`Ed> if it is still there
[01 Jan/07:01] <Big`Ed> you may have to use it's disk to uninstall
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[01 Jan/07:13] <Exalibur> hi
[01 Jan/07:14] <Exalibur> I urgently need the VBRUN300.dll (destucted), can someone mail it to me please?
[01 Jan/07:16] <Exalibur> many thanks for your cooperation all, you are to kind. farewell
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[01 Jan/07:17] <polipY2KK> loooooooooool
[01 Jan/07:18] <polipY2KK> does everybody have the patches for win98 and office
[01 Jan/07:18] <Exalibur> hi all;
[01 Jan/07:19] <Exalibur> I badly need the VBRUN300.dll is there anyone who can mail it to me please?
[01 Jan/07:19] <polipY2KK> mail adres plzz
[01 Jan/07:19] <Exalibur> lgvc42@yahoo.com
[01 Jan/07:20] <polipY2KK> ne belg
[01 Jan/07:20] <polipY2KK> allo
[01 Jan/07:20] <Exalibur> ja
[01 Jan/07:20] <polipY2KK> yep
[01 Jan/07:20] <polipY2KK> i van west - vlaanderen
[01 Jan/07:20] <polipY2KK> en gie
[01 Jan/07:20] <Exalibur> aalst
[01 Jan/07:20] <Exalibur> de wereld is klein he
[01 Jan/07:21] <polipY2KK> ken da bestand nie
[01 Jan/07:21] <polipY2KK> jammer
[01 Jan/07:21] <polipY2KK> wacht eeh
[01 Jan/07:21] <polipY2KK> kga eens vragen aan iemand anders
[01 Jan/07:22] * polipY2KK ken ne bestand vbrun300.dll nodig
[01 Jan/07:22] <polipY2KK> wacht wi
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[01 Jan/07:31] <poliparty> ok
[01 Jan/07:31] <Exalibur> gevonden?
[01 Jan/07:31] <poliparty> noper
[01 Jan/07:31] <poliparty> damm
[01 Jan/07:31] <poliparty> sooory
[01 Jan/07:32] <Exalibur> ok, niks aon te doen
[01 Jan/07:32] <poliparty> jah?
[01 Jan/07:32] <Exalibur> ik zoek wel verder, thanks, bye
[01 Jan/07:32] <poliparty> byeee
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[01 Jan/08:07] <Big`Ed> wb CJ^
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[01 Jan/08:07] <CJ^> :P
[01 Jan/08:07] <CJ^> mall is empty
[01 Jan/08:07] <CJ^> M T
[01 Jan/08:07] <Big`Ed> expecting something?
[01 Jan/08:08] <CJ^> naah
[01 Jan/08:08] <CJ^> just went to the bank.
[01 Jan/08:08] <CJ^> cashed a check..
[01 Jan/08:08] <CJ^> went walking around..
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[01 Jan/08:08] <CJ^> was actually hoping to see what Sears had on clearance...
[01 Jan/08:08] <CJ^> not much  heh
[01 Jan/08:09] <Azmodan> hi CJ
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[01 Jan/08:10] <CJ^> yo
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[01 Jan/08:13] <CJ^> well.. bbl  gonna go try some stuff hehe
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[01 Jan/08:19] <Deton8R> yeah, yeah
[01 Jan/08:20] <Deton8R> wonder where Az went
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[01 Jan/08:21] <Azmodan> do ya
[01 Jan/08:21] <Azmodan> he's prolly off somewhere
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[01 Jan/08:37] <Ed`Y2Kman> `say
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[01 Jan/08:40] <Ed`Y2Kman> http://www.hyperreal.org/music/artists/afx/
[01 Jan/08:40] <Ed`Y2Kman> there is a song - analogue bubblebath - on AFX
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[01 Jan/08:47] <Ed`Y2Kman> LifeBlood behave.. or I'll get medieval with your buttocks.
[01 Jan/08:48] <Azmodan> `op lifeblood
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[01 Jan/08:48] <Azmodan> userlist remains the same Ed
[01 Jan/08:48] <Ed`Y2Kman> `say
[01 Jan/08:48] <Azmodan> no
[01 Jan/08:48] <Azmodan> -say
[01 Jan/08:48] <Ed`Y2Kman> -say
[01 Jan/08:49] <Ed`Y2Kman> no responses
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[01 Jan/08:56] <mrgone> arggg
[01 Jan/08:56] <Ed`Y2Kman> argh?
[01 Jan/08:57] <mrgone> The eBay site will be unavailable for Y2K verification from 15:30 PST to 18:00 PST on Friday, December 31 and from 23:00 PST, Friday, December 31 to 03:00 PST, Saturday, January 1. If you try to connect to eBay during these times, you may receive a "Failed to connect" error message. 
[01 Jan/08:57] <Ed`Y2Kman> stupid
[01 Jan/08:58] <mrgone> so my video card ends in 1 day 4 hours now
[01 Jan/08:59] <Azmodan> mmmm funny thats the message i'm recieving from my brain this morning
[01 Jan/08:59] <Azmodan> at least no one else can bid on it
[01 Jan/08:59] <Ed`Y2Kman> don't forget not to go too high on that
[01 Jan/09:00] <Ed`Y2Kman> card is listed on pricewatch
[01 Jan/09:03] <mrgone> is 128 megs of ram 1chip for 108$ a good price
[01 Jan/09:03] <mrgone> 108 u.s.
[01 Jan/09:04] <Ed`Y2Kman> yea
[01 Jan/09:04] <Ed`Y2Kman> do a pricewatch check
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[01 Jan/09:10] <mrgone> 127-129$
[01 Jan/09:11] <Ed`Y2Kman> yea - i estimate about $1 per mb
[01 Jan/09:13] <mrgone> sigh
[01 Jan/09:13] <mrgone> i remember when it was .90$ canadain per meg
[01 Jan/09:14] <Ed`Y2Kman> check your nirvidia card on pricewatch too
[01 Jan/09:14] <Ed`Y2Kman> hehe
[01 Jan/09:14] <mrgone> i should have bought a truckload
[01 Jan/09:14] <mrgone> those nvida cards in my area are 250$ can.
[01 Jan/09:14] <Ed`Y2Kman> was a lot cheaper on pricewatch
[01 Jan/09:16] <mrgone> 3D BLASTER RIVA TNT2 AGP-32MB  IN STOCK NOW!! $ 253 
[01 Jan/09:16] <mrgone> is the closest
[01 Jan/09:16] <Ed`Y2Kman> noooo
[01 Jan/09:16] <mrgone> no?
[01 Jan/09:16] <Ed`Y2Kman> give me the link to the auction again
[01 Jan/09:16] <mrgone> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=227013570
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[01 Jan/09:17] <mrgone> i liek that heatsink. i have a little fan im going to put on it
[01 Jan/09:19] <Ed`Y2Kman> this card: 32MB SniperM force from nVIDIA RIVA TNT2 M64 Video Card, w/WinDVD DVD Player & 3D Game, 128bit RIVA TNT2 M64 TwiN Texel Graphics AGP 4x/2x with true color 32-bit 3D rendering 32 Mb memory
[01 Jan/09:20] <Ed`Y2Kman> it that the card mrgone?
[01 Jan/09:20] <mrgone> that was the other one that i lost last night
[01 Jan/09:20] <Ed`Y2Kman> thats the link you just sent
[01 Jan/09:21] <mrgone> the little green card?
[01 Jan/09:21] <mrgone> k
[01 Jan/09:21] <Ed`Y2Kman> M64 is $83 bucks
[01 Jan/09:21] <Ed`Y2Kman> 227013570
[01 Jan/09:21] <Ed`Y2Kman> item
[01 Jan/09:21] <mrgone> where on pricewatch canada?
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[01 Jan/09:22] <Ed`Y2Kman> mrgone (17)
[01 Jan/09:22] <Ed`Y2Kman> Last bid at: $84.02
[01 Jan/09:22] <Ed`Y2Kman> Quantity bid for: 1
[01 Jan/09:22] <Ed`Y2Kman> Date of bid: 12/30/99, 20:20:47 PST
[01 Jan/09:22] <mrgone> whats the diff between the m64 and the diamond 770
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[01 Jan/09:22] <Ed`Y2Kman> donno
[01 Jan/09:22] <Harbor> anyone know anything about office 2000?
[01 Jan/09:22] <Ed`Y2Kman> http://www.pcbuyerclub.com/
[01 Jan/09:22] <Ed`Y2Kman> i know what it is and how it works
[01 Jan/09:23] <Ed`Y2Kman> mrgone - go to that link
[01 Jan/09:23] <Harbor> i'm trying to install it
[01 Jan/09:23] <Ed`Y2Kman> and look at middle right snipper2
[01 Jan/09:23] <Harbor> and it won't let me install it to my e:/ drive
[01 Jan/09:23] <Ed`Y2Kman> ok
[01 Jan/09:23] <Harbor> there's not enough space on the c
[01 Jan/09:23] <Ed`Y2Kman> Harbor - and?
[01 Jan/09:23] <Harbor> and it wants to split it between the two
[01 Jan/09:23] <Harbor> and not just put it all on e
[01 Jan/09:23] <Ed`Y2Kman> it has to have a basic aomount on c:
[01 Jan/09:23] <Ed`Y2Kman> can't change that
[01 Jan/09:23] <Harbor> 183 megs?
[01 Jan/09:23] <Ed`Y2Kman> prob about that much
[01 Jan/09:24] <Harbor> any reason in particular?
[01 Jan/09:24] <Harbor> that seems stupid
[01 Jan/09:24] <Ed`Y2Kman> the way office integrates
[01 Jan/09:24] <Harbor> the magic of microsoft, screwing me yet again
[01 Jan/09:24] <Harbor> thank you
[01 Jan/09:24] <Harbor> i appreciate your help
[01 Jan/09:24] <Ed`Y2Kman> you have a harddrive that small that you can't install a LARGE program ?
[01 Jan/09:24] <mrgone> no tnt2's on that page
[01 Jan/09:24] <Harbor> well, i have a 800 meg one as c
[01 Jan/09:25] <Harbor> this isn't my computer
[01 Jan/09:25] <Ed`Y2Kman> http://www.pcbuyerclub.com/Shop/viewitem.asp?SKU=VAPT232
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[01 Jan/09:25] <Harbor> and an 8 gig one as e
[01 Jan/09:25] <Ed`Y2Kman> thats two small of a c: for anything really
[01 Jan/09:25] <Ed`Y2Kman> not a microsoft thing
[01 Jan/09:25] <Ed`Y2Kman> should never go under 1gb
[01 Jan/09:25] <Ed`Y2Kman> and in win98 should just have 1 big c: 8.8 gb
[01 Jan/09:25] <Harbor> the part that baffles me, is that 2000 isn't all that much different than 97
[01 Jan/09:26] <Harbor> and 97 doesn't take up more than 100 megs total
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[01 Jan/09:26] <Ed`Y2Kman> it has lots of added features
[01 Jan/09:26] <Harbor> nevermind the 3 or 4 hundred it wants now
[01 Jan/09:26] <Ed`Y2Kman> hehe
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[01 Jan/09:26] <Ed`Y2Kman> on the surface it looks the same
[01 Jan/09:26] <Harbor> yes it does
[01 Jan/09:26] <Harbor> if it weren't for this damn compliance issue, i would just leave the old one
[01 Jan/09:26] <Ed`Y2Kman> NO CUSSING
[01 Jan/09:27] <Harbor> ooh, sorry
[01 Jan/09:27] <Harbor> apologies
[01 Jan/09:27] <Ed`Y2Kman> office 97 has a patch for y2k
[01 Jan/09:27] <Ed`Y2Kman> service release 2b
[01 Jan/09:27] <Harbor> i was looking for that, couldn't find it
[01 Jan/09:27] <Harbor> is it on microsoft's page?
[01 Jan/09:27] <Ed`Y2Kman> and there is 2 minor glitches for exchange and schedule +
[01 Jan/09:27] <Ed`Y2Kman> yes
[01 Jan/09:27] <Harbor> alright
[01 Jan/09:28] <Ed`Y2Kman> all microsoft patches are on microsoft site
[01 Jan/09:28] <Ed`Y2Kman> free
[01 Jan/09:28] <Harbor> i couldn't find it the last time i looked
[01 Jan/09:28] <Harbor> i'm checking again
[01 Jan/09:28] <Ed`Y2Kman> click on download
[01 Jan/09:28] <Ed`Y2Kman> click on office-update
[01 Jan/09:29] <Harbor> working on it
[01 Jan/09:29] <Ed`Y2Kman> right in top yellow box
[01 Jan/09:29] <Ed`Y2Kman> http://officeupdate.microsoft.com/Articles/sr2fact.htm
[01 Jan/09:30] <Ed`Y2Kman> this release has been out since OCT 99
[01 Jan/09:31] <Harbor> which would make me a sped
[01 Jan/09:31] <Harbor> :)
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[01 Jan/09:32] <Ed`Y2Kman> also was included on the "microsoft year 2000 resource cd"
[01 Jan/09:32] <Ed`Y2Kman> available for free
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[01 Jan/09:34] <Ed`Y2Kman> that cd was released in NOV
[01 Jan/09:34] <Harbor> alright, i'm golden
[01 Jan/09:34] <Ed`Y2Kman> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/year2k/y2kcd.htm
[01 Jan/09:34] <Harbor> thanks
[01 Jan/09:34] * Harbor tips hat
[01 Jan/09:34] <Harbor> have a good new years
[01 Jan/09:34] <Harbor> :)
[01 Jan/09:34] <Ed`Y2Kman> okies
[01 Jan/09:34] <Harbor> bye
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[01 Jan/09:50] <lOst_sOul> How can i detect my 3dfx
[01 Jan/09:51] <lOst_sOul> i know its a voodoo 2 but dont kno wwhat make.
[01 Jan/09:51] <lOst_sOul> i m not aloud to take the puter apart
[01 Jan/09:51] <lOst_sOul> :(
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[01 Jan/09:53] <FreshBrew> i just installed succesfully a new fujitsu 8.4g harddrive and i installed baldurs gate and it tries to open in dos as it does with ither progs.. help please
[01 Jan/10:00] <FreshBrew> anyone?
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[01 Jan/10:16] <deek44> i am tryin to install 98se and my sys gets stuck at the point where it scans the ssytem regestry - HELP ME PLZ
[01 Jan/10:20] <Azmodan> deek44, setup /nr will skip that registry check
[01 Jan/10:21] <deek44> k
[01 Jan/10:24] <deek44> that did nothing, just went back to the prompt
[01 Jan/10:24] <Azmodan> urm
[01 Jan/10:25] <Azmodan> it works for me
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[01 Jan/11:46] <tranced> how would i change a 4meg PCI viddy card to a 16meg AGP?
[01 Jan/11:46] <Big`Ed> did you buy a new card?
[01 Jan/11:47] <tranced> do i have to go into the BIOS and tell cpu to recognize AGP as viddy?
[01 Jan/11:47] <LosGuy> install a 16meg agp
[01 Jan/11:47] <tranced> erm...
[01 Jan/11:47] <tranced> yeah, i got one
[01 Jan/11:47] <tranced> but like...
[01 Jan/11:47] <Big`Ed> should almost be automatic, out with the old, in with the new
[01 Jan/11:47] <tranced> wot if i pull out the 4meg PCI and install the AGP and i get no viddy?
[01 Jan/11:47] <tranced> pnp eh?
[01 Jan/11:47] <Big`Ed> than there must be a bios setting
[01 Jan/11:47] <JCJC> I have a philips scsi writable CDrom that worked on my Dell pentium Pro.  I installed it on my new Micron mahine running Win98 and now I can't see it. 
[01 Jan/11:47] <Big`Ed> for agp
[01 Jan/11:48] <tranced> erm...
[01 Jan/11:48] <Big`Ed> jcjc - do you have the scsi drivers for it?
[01 Jan/11:48] <tranced> yeah see...i havent tried it yet
[01 Jan/11:48] <Big`Ed> jcjc - did you do a add/remove hardware ?
[01 Jan/11:48] <JCJC> Big Ed.  I assumed Win98 would find it? and install drivers, or tell me it doesn't have any.
[01 Jan/11:49] <tranced> i was talking to this techie at the puter store and he said there was a BIOS setting for it
[01 Jan/11:49] <LosGuy> probably tranced.. depends on your bios
[01 Jan/11:49] <JCJC> Big Ed, I did the add/remvoe but no luck.
[01 Jan/11:49] <tranced> would i have to start up w/ my PCI, change the BIOS, shut down and then install the AGP?
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[01 Jan/11:49] <Big`Ed> tranced - every bios is different
[01 Jan/11:49] <Big`Ed> yes
[01 Jan/11:49] <tranced> erm...
[01 Jan/11:49] <tranced> demn
[01 Jan/11:49] <JCJC> At one point it was visible and worked and then I had to reboot and its gone,
[01 Jan/11:49] <Big`Ed> could be mb jumper
[01 Jan/11:50] <tranced> cuz im not at the puter im gonna do at
[01 Jan/11:50] <Big`Ed> jcjc - did you answer my questions?
[01 Jan/11:50] <tranced> biged: what's ur question?
[01 Jan/11:50] <Big`Ed> tranced - if you boot and get no video, there is some conflict - or phisical jumper
[01 Jan/11:50] <tranced> well i havent tried to upgrade yet
[01 Jan/11:50] <tranced> i jus wanna be informed
[01 Jan/11:50] <Big`Ed> should be pnp easy
[01 Jan/11:51] <tranced> it's spelled physical btw
[01 Jan/11:51] <tranced> great
[01 Jan/11:51] <tranced> i hope so
[01 Jan/11:51] <JCJC> Big ed, I tried add remove, no work, it did work once and I could read from it but then I rebooted and it is not present
[01 Jan/11:51] <Big`Ed> jcjc - check control panel, system, devices and look for the device with a !
[01 Jan/11:51] <tranced> another question i have is: if i have a 17" inch monitor and a 16meg AGP viddy card, will i be able to get 1600x1200 rez?
[01 Jan/11:51] <tranced> ! = conflict
[01 Jan/11:52] <Big`Ed> tranced - thats up to your video card/monitor
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[01 Jan/11:52] <Big`Ed> older 17"'s did not allways do 1600
[01 Jan/11:52] <JCJC> I looked under control panel system and the cdrom is not listed and there are no conflicts
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[01 Jan/11:52] <tranced> well this is a new 17"
[01 Jan/11:52] <tranced> what does the rez depend on?
[01 Jan/11:53] <tranced> the combo of the monitor and card?
[01 Jan/11:53] <Big`Ed> jcjc - and if you do a add/remove again
[01 Jan/11:53] <JCJC> Big Ed, there are no conflicts anywhere on the machine
[01 Jan/11:53] <Big`Ed> tranced - yes
[01 Jan/11:53] <Azmodan> well and the amount of ram on the card
[01 Jan/11:53] <Azmodan> thats the deciding factor
[01 Jan/11:53] <JCJC> I tried the add/remove several times but it never finds anything.
[01 Jan/11:53] <tranced> yeah
[01 Jan/11:53] <tranced> so a new 17" monitor and a 16meg card will PROLLY give me 1600x1200 rez?
[01 Jan/11:54] <Big`Ed> jcjc - perhaps the wire came loose then, or the physical drive went bad?
[01 Jan/11:54] <Azmodan> if the rez is in the cards specifications
[01 Jan/11:54] <JCJC> Big Ed I wonder if I am  missing a driver or the SCSI chain is messed up
[01 Jan/11:54] <tranced> the same monitor w/ a 4meg PCI gives me 1280xwhatever rez
[01 Jan/11:54] <Big`Ed> JCJC - ALA wire
[01 Jan/11:54] <Big`Ed> jcjc - do you see the scsi card detect on boot?
[01 Jan/11:54] <Big`Ed> jcjc - and should be able to test it at lowlevel
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[01 Jan/11:55] <Big`Ed> dos
[01 Jan/11:55] <Big`Ed> wb CJ^
[01 Jan/11:55] [tranced> azmodan: well, the card is some no name on sale
[01 Jan/11:55] <JCJC> Big Ed, I have a scsi scanner that is attached to same scsi card and it works fine
[01 Jan/11:55] <tranced> i got a 16meg AGP for 45bux!
[01 Jan/11:55] <Big`Ed> jcjc - if it don't detect - prob a problem in the chain then
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[01 Jan/11:56] <CJ^> yo
[01 Jan/11:56] <tranced> so should i jus try to install the card pnp w/o messing w/ the BIOS, see if it werks, and then do the BIOS setting?
[01 Jan/11:56] <Big`Ed> yes
[01 Jan/11:56] <tranced> k, thas wot ill do then
[01 Jan/11:56] <Big`Ed> if no work , then back up and try again
[01 Jan/11:57] <tranced> back up data or process?
[01 Jan/11:57] <tranced> you mean back up my data or back in what im doing?
[01 Jan/11:57] <tranced> i already have everything backed up, im no dumby
[01 Jan/11:58] <tranced> thank you, Big'Ed, you've been more than helpful
[01 Jan/11:58] <Azmodan> no he means back up the process
[01 Jan/11:58] <Big`Ed> backup as in backstep
[01 Jan/11:58] <tranced> thas wot i thought
[01 Jan/11:58] <Big`Ed> no prob - good luck
[01 Jan/11:58] <tranced> cool thanx guys
[01 Jan/11:58] <tranced> yeah well i cant try till i get back to my puter in SD
[01 Jan/11:58] <tranced> jan 10th
[01 Jan/11:59] <tranced> but i jus wanted to be as informed as possible before i try
[01 Jan/11:59] <tranced> you guys know anything about directx and opengl conflicts?
[01 Jan/11:59] <JCJC> Thanks for the help Big Ed!
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[01 Jan/12:00] * Big`Ed stays away from that area
[01 Jan/12:00] <tranced> oh?
[01 Jan/12:00] <tranced> what kind of machine are you on, ed?
[01 Jan/12:01] <Big`Ed> right now, a laptop
[01 Jan/12:01] <Big`Ed> running beta os
[01 Jan/12:01] <tranced> win98?
[01 Jan/12:01] <tranced> oh
[01 Jan/12:01] <tranced> which os?
[01 Jan/12:01] <Big`Ed> win98+
[01 Jan/12:01] <tranced> hrm...
[01 Jan/12:01] <Big`Ed> but <win2k
[01 Jan/12:01] <tranced> k
[01 Jan/12:02] * Big`Ed don't discuss microsoft beta on this channel
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[01 Jan/12:14] <MajicEyes> guyz I have a m571 mb & 1 32mb dimm... I have 2 2x8mb simm's that I can't seem to get to work. Any idea on what i am doing wrong? The PC see's the 16 meg when I put it in there alone but then fails to see the DIMM. :-(
[01 Jan/12:14] <CJ^> not trying to mix simm and dimm are you?
[01 Jan/12:15] <MajicEyes> hmmm yeay but the book says I can?
[01 Jan/12:15] <CJ^> no
[01 Jan/12:15] <CJ^> you cant
[01 Jan/12:15] <MajicEyes> ohhh
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[01 Jan/12:15] <CJ^> diff power req
[01 Jan/12:15] <CJ^> diff speed
[01 Jan/12:15] <CJ^> NEVER mix simm and dimm
[01 Jan/12:15] <MajicEyes> it shows a 32 dimm with 2 x8 simms in the book
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[01 Jan/12:16] <CJ^> well  the book .. from PcCHips  is incorrect
[01 Jan/12:16] <MajicEyes> LOL figures hehehehe
[01 Jan/12:16] <CJ^> evem Amptron.... another maker of the same board says not to do it..
[01 Jan/12:17] <MajicEyes> yeah I looked on the ampton site but i was lookin for something else LOL
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[01 Jan/12:17] <MajicEyes> sux's cause I have 32mb of each 
[01 Jan/12:17] <MajicEyes> :-(
[01 Jan/12:18] <CJ^> well  IMHO  ditch that mb....
[01 Jan/12:19] <MajicEyes> i fear that is what i'm gonna do... I don't like the onboard Sound or video tyhing anyways
[01 Jan/12:19] <MajicEyes> ops things
[01 Jan/12:19] <CJ^> well.. PCChips is the worlds worst mb maker... heh
[01 Jan/12:19] <CJ^> i never expect much from them at all
[01 Jan/12:19] <MajicEyes> i have had nothing but probs since i started messin with it
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[01 Jan/12:20] <MajicEyes> ohhh well have a good one guys & thanks CJ :-)
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[01 Jan/12:21] <CJ^> np
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[01 Jan/12:22] <Ascent> hey I used this program to test my computer for Y2K and it failed on spec. but passed all the rest, but it said RTC failed, and will fail rollover if PC ON what does that mean??
[01 Jan/12:22] <WarnBufet> where do you get the y2k test program from?
[01 Jan/12:23] <Ed`Y2K|d> hehe
[01 Jan/12:23] <Ascent> download.com
[01 Jan/12:23] <Ed`Y2K|d> if your RTC fails - 1st try to update your BIOS
[01 Jan/12:23] <WarnBufet> what's the name of the program I am looking for?
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[01 Jan/12:24] <Ascent> Y2K Tester
[01 Jan/12:24] <Ed`Y2K|d> http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/downloads/swlib/swcol.y2k.html
[01 Jan/12:24] <WarnBufet> thanks ed
[01 Jan/12:24] <Ed`Y2K|d> they also have a RTC fix if you can't fix your bios
[01 Jan/12:25] <Ascent> it failed for the 1/1/1900 date,bvut the 1/1/2000 date it passed
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[01 Jan/12:26] <Ed`Y2K|d> ascent - check for a motherboard bios update
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[01 Jan/12:26] <Ed`Y2K|d> from your motherboard site
[01 Jan/12:27] <WarnBufet> there are a bunch of y2k programs on that site, any you recommend?
[01 Jan/12:27] <Ed`Y2K|d> any of them
[01 Jan/12:27] <Ascent> I forget the one I used.
[01 Jan/12:27] <Ed`Y2K|d> also is very important to update your win98
[01 Jan/12:27] <Ed`Y2K|d> at windowsupdate stie
[01 Jan/12:27] <Ed`Y2K|d> site
[01 Jan/12:28] <WarnBufet> Ed: there are a bunch of y2k programs on that site, any you recommend?
[01 Jan/12:28] <WarnBufet> I am running 98
[01 Jan/12:28] <Ed`Y2K|d> i have never used any of them, but they are all reated 4 and 5 stars
[01 Jan/12:28] <Ed`Y2K|d> yes
[01 Jan/12:29] < SignOff: WarnBufet!tomorrow@208.148.73.233 (Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great, if a sperm gets wasted, God get quite irate...)
[01 Jan/12:29] <Ed`Y2K|d> any of the programs should work
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[01 Jan/12:31] <Ascent> I found a NSTL Hardware Tested Year 2000 Compliant for my motherboard should I get that?
[01 Jan/12:32] <Ed`Y2K|d> did you find the actual bios update?
[01 Jan/12:32] <Ed`Y2K|d> first?
[01 Jan/12:32] <Ed`Y2K|d> it is easier to patch bios - then to have to load software every time you turn on the pc
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[01 Jan/12:33] <Ascent> wait a sec I got my motherboard just this past September and the bios updates were released on like 1-2 years before I got it
[01 Jan/12:33] <Ed`Y2K|d> hello sir-here
[01 Jan/12:33] <devilDigg> hi LosGuy, hey mrgone, hey Ed`Y2K|d, & Mandy
[01 Jan/12:33] <mrgone> my other ricoh just crapped out
[01 Jan/12:34] <Ed`Y2K|d> new mb's often are behind on the actual bios
[01 Jan/12:34] <Ed`Y2K|d> yuk
[01 Jan/12:34] <Ed`Y2K|d> hi devilDigg
[01 Jan/12:34] <Ascent> well, I gtg. if my computer doesn't work correctly tomorrow, I'll go out buy a new one.
[01 Jan/12:34] <mrgone> its still under 1 year warranty but i dont have a recipt...
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[01 Jan/12:35] * Ed`Y2K|d saves all receipts
[01 Jan/12:35] <Ed`Y2K|d> love his solution
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[01 Jan/12:41] < SignOff: mrgone!~Webmaster@ts1-103.brg.tallships.ca (cept when ya say 'the storm of `91' itll be 'the storm of `01' which is stupid)
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[01 Jan/13:08] <fuckkk_00> Could someone make me a quick .reg file?
[01 Jan/13:09] * fuckkk_00 notices the topic.
[01 Jan/13:09] <CJ^> `op
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[01 Jan/13:09] <LosGuy> make you a .reg file?
[01 Jan/13:10] <fuckkk_00> Yes.
[01 Jan/13:10] <LosGuy> we dont do files here at all
[01 Jan/13:10] <CJ^> "poof"  yer a .reg file
[01 Jan/13:10] <fuckkk_00> The association that leads to .exe is messed up, I have no other way of fixing it...
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[01 Jan/13:10] <LosGuy> why not make it yerself?
[01 Jan/13:10] <fuckkk_00> I don't have the know how.
[01 Jan/13:10] <CJ^> nor do we
[01 Jan/13:10] <fuckkk_00> If I was able to make it myself, it'd be done.
[01 Jan/13:10] <LosGuy> you know what key your making?
[01 Jan/13:10] <fuckkk_00> Nor do we?
[01 Jan/13:11] <LosGuy> or modifying?
[01 Jan/13:11] <fuckkk_00> Well I wanted to change the association "Application"
[01 Jan/13:11] <fuckkk_00> The key is .exe .dl
[01 Jan/13:11] <CJ^> well...
[01 Jan/13:11] <CJ^> thats done in Explorer...
[01 Jan/13:11] <CJ^> File Association
[01 Jan/13:11] <fuckkk_00> CJ^: I am very well aware of how windows works.
[01 Jan/13:11] <fuckkk_00> Trust me, i'm not coming here as a starting resource, this is my LAST resource.
[01 Jan/13:11] <CJ^> now.. all your *.exe files dont launch correctly?
[01 Jan/13:11] <fuckkk_00> Correct.
[01 Jan/13:12] <CJ^> and  when /how did this happen exactly?
[01 Jan/13:12] <fuckkk_00> They look for a file called "windos.exe"
[01 Jan/13:12] <CJ^> ahhh
[01 Jan/13:12] <CJ^> Sub 7
[01 Jan/13:12] <fuckkk_00> 2 hrs ago, after I viruscanned,deleted.
[01 Jan/13:12] <CJ^> got hit with a trojan
[01 Jan/13:12] <fuckkk_00> Yup.
[01 Jan/13:12] <CJ^> yer SOL...
[01 Jan/13:12] <fuckkk_00> So I deleted windos.exe
[01 Jan/13:12] <CJ^> yer SOL dude
[01 Jan/13:12] <fuckkk_00> Which means what?
[01 Jan/13:12] <CJ^> windos.exe isnt supposed to be deleted till AFTER you fix the reg
[01 Jan/13:12] <CJ^> look at deja.com
[01 Jan/13:13] <CJ^> search for windos.exe
[01 Jan/13:13] <CJ^> there is a posted fix in there
[01 Jan/13:13] <fuckkk_00> I couldn't find it on the web.
[01 Jan/13:13] <CJ^> step by step as i remember it
[01 Jan/13:13] <CJ^> ya didnt search deja.com then
[01 Jan/13:13] <CJ^> its there...
[01 Jan/13:13] <CJ^> just a backdoor trojan...
[01 Jan/13:13] <CJ^> little vicious mother too
[01 Jan/13:13] <CJ^> Sub 7
[01 Jan/13:14] <fuckkk_00> where is sub 7?
[01 Jan/13:14] <CJ^> Sub 7 is the name of the backdoor admin tool...  AKA  trojan  that hit you
[01 Jan/13:14] <CJ^> windos.exe and server .exe 
[01 Jan/13:15] <CJ^> someone posted a how to fix at deja.com
[01 Jan/13:15] <CJ^> tells ya what reg keys to edit to fix it
[01 Jan/13:15] <CJ^> and in what order to del the windos.exe and server.exe
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[01 Jan/13:16] <fuckkk_00> I can't find windos.exe on the page.
[01 Jan/13:16] <CJ^> fine
[01 Jan/13:16] <CJ^> ill find it for you...
[01 Jan/13:16] <fuckkk_00> Thanks, much appreciated.
[01 Jan/13:17] <CJ^> you didnt search for it
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[01 Jan/13:21] <CJ^> search at Deja.com  there is a post from a newsgroup called alt.hackers.malicious  >>>>    http://x23.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=565423083&CONTEXT=946685779.497680384&hitnum=61
[01 Jan/13:21] <CJ^> tells you how to fix it there
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[01 Jan/13:24] <CJ^> seems Unreal Tournement REALLY did have the Sub 7 trojan in it afterall
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[01 Jan/13:25] <CJ^> wb Los
[01 Jan/13:26] <Los`Guy> thx
[01 Jan/13:26] <CJ^> seems Unreal Tournement REALLY did have the Sub 7 trojan in it afterall
[01 Jan/13:27] <Los`Guy> hahahhaha
[01 Jan/13:27] <CJ^> seen a lot of postings about it
[01 Jan/13:28] <Los`Guy> I think I did see something bout that too
[01 Jan/13:28] <CJ^> well..
[01 Jan/13:29] <CJ^> i pointed that last guy to deja.com
[01 Jan/13:29] <Los`Guy> there was a .dll in unreal also that one av false alarmed on ..and it caused avp to puke for some people
[01 Jan/13:30] <CJ^> he didnt see an immediate link on deja.com so he gave up
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[01 Jan/13:30] <CJ^> heh
[01 Jan/13:30] <CJ^> great..
[01 Jan/13:31] <CJ^> good thin i only have Unrel  and not UT
[01 Jan/13:31] <Los`Guy> hehe well I dont have sub7 installed (never did) so I cant tell him 
[01 Jan/13:31] <Los`Guy> hehe
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[01 Jan/13:50] <LosGuy> can you program?
[01 Jan/13:50] <Ed`Y2K|d> i'm sure there is a gag one
[01 Jan/13:50] <Ed`Y2K|d> somewhere
[01 Jan/13:50] <Ed`Y2K|d> http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-10042-100-906765.html?tag=st.dl.10001_103_1.lst.titledetail
[01 Jan/13:50] <Azmodan> what are we after?
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[01 Jan/13:50] <Ed`Y2K|d> y2k gag
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[01 Jan/13:50] <Ed`Y2K|d> just pasted a link
[01 Jan/13:50] <Hale_Yeah> thanks
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[01 Jan/14:02] <Hale_Yeah> i never thought task schedular would be so useful... but that gag program will go off right at midnight...
[01 Jan/14:02] <Hale_Yeah> thanks for the help :)
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[01 Jan/16:02] <SmokEe> Hey can anyone help me?
[01 Jan/16:03] <SmokEe> i got a little problem that needs fixing
[01 Jan/16:03] <SmokEe> any volenteers
[01 Jan/16:03] <SmokEe> ?
[01 Jan/16:04] <LosGuy> ask a question and if someone can help they will
[01 Jan/16:05] <Zeus> HELLO?
[01 Jan/16:05] <SmokEe> well i have a connection between a win 3.1 and 98...i need to get some info off the 3.1...how will i do that?
[01 Jan/16:05] <Zeus> what is the 'connection?'
[01 Jan/16:06] <SmokEe> a data connection
[01 Jan/16:06] <SmokEe> a cable between the 2 pcs
[01 Jan/16:06] <Zeus> cable - as in tv cable?
[01 Jan/16:06] <SmokEe> no...a serial cable
[01 Jan/16:07] <SmokEe> connects to the serial port
[01 Jan/16:07] <Zeus> what software are you using to connect?
[01 Jan/16:08] <SmokEe> i tried my breifcase
[01 Jan/16:08] <SmokEe> what do i need to use?
[01 Jan/16:08] <CJ^> is the serial cable a crossover null modem serial cable?
[01 Jan/16:08] <Zeus> win3.1 does NOT support that 
[01 Jan/16:08] <LosGuy> how about with something like laplink
[01 Jan/16:08] <CJ^> LLpro may
[01 Jan/16:09] <CJ^> but it still needs the correct serial cable...
[01 Jan/16:09] <CJ^> or a NIC prefered
[01 Jan/16:09] <SmokEe> huh?
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[01 Jan/16:10] <CJ^> Smoke a normal serial cable will not work...
[01 Jan/16:10] <CJ^> a crossover will
[01 Jan/16:10] <CJ^> but win3.1 did support the DCC  ..
[01 Jan/16:10] <ED`Y2k|N> and win3.1 requires software called lap-link
[01 Jan/16:10] <CJ^> not by itself it didnt
[01 Jan/16:11] <CJ^> LapLink will help..
[01 Jan/16:11] <CJ^> right
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[01 Jan/16:11] <SmokEe> i bought a interlink cable adapter
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[01 Jan/16:13] <ED`Y2k|N> ok - now you need software
[01 Jan/16:14] <ED`Y2k|N> hi osborne
[01 Jan/16:14] <ED`Y2k|N> long time
[01 Jan/16:14] <SmokEe> where can i get the software for win 3.1 and 98
[01 Jan/16:14] <SmokEe> ?
[01 Jan/16:14] <CJ^> www.laplink.com
[01 Jan/16:14] <CJ^> www.symantec.com
[01 Jan/16:14] <SmokEe> k
[01 Jan/16:14] <ED`Y2k|N> yea
[01 Jan/16:14] <CJ^> laplink is the preffered
[01 Jan/16:15] <SmokEe> which one do i want?
[01 Jan/16:16] <CJ^> the one you feel comfortable using
[01 Jan/16:16] <CJ^> LapLink IS the better of the two products..
[01 Jan/16:16] <CJ^> being its homegrown in WA State as well...
[01 Jan/16:16] <SmokEe> i mean like laplink 2000 or what?
[01 Jan/16:16] <empathy> howdy ed
[01 Jan/16:16] <CJ^> it will tell you on the site which version will work with what OS
[01 Jan/16:17] <ED`Y2k|N> happy new year empathy
[01 Jan/16:17] <ED`Y2k|N> empathy was your christmas good too?
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[01 Jan/16:17] <empathy> shrug, no presents under the tree, not even a tree, just envelopes
[01 Jan/16:18] <CJ^> ahh checks...
[01 Jan/16:18] <empathy> yep
[01 Jan/16:18] <ED`Y2k|N> empathy that is not fun - how come?
[01 Jan/16:18] <LosGuy> hi ya os
[01 Jan/16:18] <empathy> it's not christmasy in the least
[01 Jan/16:19] <empathy> hi [daman] los
[01 Jan/16:19] * ED`Y2k|N agree's
[01 Jan/16:19] <ED`Y2k|N> DaMan of the Decade
[01 Jan/16:19] <empathy> oh no, daman of the millennium!
[01 Jan/16:21] <ED`Y2k|N> why no tree?
[01 Jan/16:22] <empathy> traveled between missouri, ohio, and virginia; wasn't home much
[01 Jan/16:22] <ED`Y2k|N> ooo
[01 Jan/16:22] <ED`Y2k|N> noticed you gone alot
[01 Jan/16:23] <ED`Y2k|N> thought you quit on Los`Guy
[01 Jan/16:23] <empathy> ?
[01 Jan/16:23] <ED`Y2k|N> not being here - quit
[01 Jan/16:24] <empathy> naa, i never quit really, just idle
[01 Jan/16:25] <ED`Y2k|N> and pay homage to DaMan
[01 Jan/16:26] <LosGuy> pfft
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[01 Jan/16:27] <CJ^> ewwww  squishy
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[01 Jan/16:47] <obba> got a quick question about cookies etc.. I just did a complete reinstallation of win98, and i want to import my old cookies that i saved. Now, the probb is that the cookies start with diff name.. ie, comp name or sth like that.. anyone got any sugg what to do..?
[01 Jan/16:47] <Kraiser> nahha
[01 Jan/16:47] <Los`Guy> never heard of anyone wanting to import cookies :P
[01 Jan/16:47] <ED`Y2k|N> start your cookies from scratch
[01 Jan/16:47] <obba> hrehehehe
[01 Jan/16:47] <obba> ok
[01 Jan/16:47] <CJ^> yeah
[01 Jan/16:47] <CJ^> waste of time
[01 Jan/16:47] <obba> thanks ppl
[01 Jan/16:47] <ED`Y2k|N> or get the names excactly
[01 Jan/16:47] <CJ^> importing fav sites is a different deal
[01 Jan/16:47] <Kraiser> yep
[01 Jan/16:48] <obba> alright.. thanks for ya help
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[01 Jan/16:52] <TheAngler> hey people don't sweat the world has not ended and it is nearly 17 hrs since we passed midnight where I am
[01 Jan/16:52] <LosGuy> yeah we have several kiwis here TheAngler
[01 Jan/16:52] <ED`Y2k|N> kewl
[01 Jan/16:52] <ED`Y2k|N> and nz did now swallow under auzzie?
[01 Jan/16:53] <TheAngler> not yet
[01 Jan/16:54] < SignOff: Cat`Woman!~cat@a24b31n74client225.hawaii.rr.com (<<ÐêtóÑ8®>> v3.0 Internet terrorism at its finest.)
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[01 Jan/16:57] <Los`Guy> wonder if mrgone remembered to bid on his vid card? hehe
[01 Jan/16:58] <ED`Y2k|N> he said something about the auction sites being down
[01 Jan/16:58] <ED`Y2k|N> for y2k
[01 Jan/16:58] <Los`Guy> hahah
[01 Jan/16:58] <Los`Guy> poor guy
[01 Jan/16:58] <ED`Y2k|N> i pointed out his card on us-pricewatch
[01 Jan/16:58] <ED`Y2k|N> was very close to his bid
[01 Jan/16:58] <Los`Guy> yeah it is usually 
[01 Jan/17:02] < SignOff: LosGuy!~husky21@user-33qti9g.dialup.mindspring.com (<<ÐêtóÑ8®>>v3.0 Internet terrorism at its finest.)
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[01 Jan/17:10] <Deanajb> i'm having a problem installing a cd r/w can someoone helP?
[01 Jan/17:11] <Los`Guy> dunno.. whats happening?
[01 Jan/17:11] <Deanajb> once it is booted to windows and i think it recognizes it windows locks up as soon as i click on it
[01 Jan/17:11] <Deanajb> i disconnected it all and other than an error in my config.sys line 2 i can now get on windows
[01 Jan/17:11] <Los`Guy> hmm config.sys?
[01 Jan/17:12] <Los`Guy> why are things loading from there?
[01 Jan/17:12] <Deanajb> that is what it says
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[01 Jan/17:12] <Los`Guy> what kind of cdrw is it? scsi or IDE?
[01 Jan/17:12] <Deanajb> ide
[01 Jan/17:12] <ED`Y2k|N> what says to load stuff in config for win98?
[01 Jan/17:12] ! empathy is known as osbourne
[01 Jan/17:13] <Deanajb> when i boot up my computer now that is what it says with it not connected
[01 Jan/17:13] <Deanajb> abort/retry cd rom
[01 Jan/17:13] <Deanajb> then it says error in cofig.sys
[01 Jan/17:13] <Deanajb> line 2
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[01 Jan/17:13] <Deanajb> then contineus loading and i can use it now
[01 Jan/17:13] <Deanajb> but when the cdrw is hooked up i can get to windows no problem but it locks up soon as i click
[01 Jan/17:13] <ED`Y2k|N> you installed win95 drivers then?
[01 Jan/17:14] <Deanajb> it says win95/98
[01 Jan/17:14] <ED`Y2k|N> well - first it should NOT have stuck something in the config.sys file
[01 Jan/17:15] <Deanajb> i think that is something from my cd/rom
[01 Jan/17:15] <ED`Y2k|N> the hang is coming cuz it is not detected installed right
[01 Jan/17:15] <Deanajb> which i THOUGHT i uninstalled
[01 Jan/17:15] <ED`Y2k|N> Deanajb - win98 does not dothat
[01 Jan/17:15] <Deanajb> how do i correct it? 
[01 Jan/17:15] <Deanajb> well deanajb does not know enough to do THAT herself LOL
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[01 Jan/17:16] <Los`Guy> Deanajb open it in notepad
[01 Jan/17:16] <Elysian> hi
[01 Jan/17:16] <Los`Guy> and put REM in front of the lines
[01 Jan/17:16] * Elysian wants to be on jsut because of the y2k warning not to be on!:)
[01 Jan/17:16] <Los`Guy> hey Elysian
[01 Jan/17:16] <ED`Y2k|N> hehe
[01 Jan/17:16] <Los`Guy> hmm never heard that warning
[01 Jan/17:16] <ED`Y2k|N> hi ely
[01 Jan/17:16] <ED`Y2k|N> thought you where working
[01 Jan/17:17] <Elysian> just got off
[01 Jan/17:17] <Elysian> we closed at 9:30
[01 Jan/17:17] <Deanajb> ok what will that do?
[01 Jan/17:17] <Deanajb> and you want to know the lines that it says there?
[01 Jan/17:18] <Los`Guy> rem = remark
[01 Jan/17:18] <Los`Guy> tells your computer to ignore those lines
[01 Jan/17:19] <Los`Guy> what does it say on the first line?
[01 Jan/17:19] <Deanajb> DEVICEhigh=C:\CDROMDRV\USDIDE.SYS /D:CD003
[01 Jan/17:19] <ED`Y2k|N> ugh
[01 Jan/17:19] <Los`Guy> Deanajb change it so it reads:
[01 Jan/17:19] <Los`Guy> rem DEVICEhigh=C:\CDROMDRV\USDIDE.SYS /D:CD003
[01 Jan/17:20] <CJ^> USDrives
[01 Jan/17:20] <Los`Guy> you know them CJ^?
[01 Jan/17:20] <CJ^> yes
[01 Jan/17:20] <CJ^> banned in 50 states
[01 Jan/17:20] <CJ^> hehe
[01 Jan/17:20] <Los`Guy> doh
[01 Jan/17:20] <CJ^> worst drives ya can own...
[01 Jan/17:20] <Elysian> ?
[01 Jan/17:20] <Deanajb> stoppp 
[01 Jan/17:20] <ED`Y2k|N> and on all real pc's
[01 Jan/17:20] <Elysian> USDrives?
[01 Jan/17:20] <Deanajb> ok
[01 Jan/17:20] <Deanajb> so i put that there then what?
[01 Jan/17:21] <Los`Guy> CJ^ do you know if that drive REQUIRES that drivers load from the config.sys? (and autoexec)
[01 Jan/17:21] <CJ^> no
[01 Jan/17:21] <CJ^> it doesnt
[01 Jan/17:21] <CJ^> BUT
[01 Jan/17:21] <Deanajb> i have no idea
[01 Jan/17:21] <CJ^> i know for a fact that most of them
[01 Jan/17:22] <CJ^> arent found by the win98 boot disk
[01 Jan/17:22] <CJ^> and its smattering of drivers that are industry standard
[01 Jan/17:22] ! bijzonder is known as bijshower
[01 Jan/17:22] <CJ^> and they are no on the WHQL list for a very good reason
[01 Jan/17:22] <Deanajb> so put it there , save, hook it back up and see what happens?
[01 Jan/17:23] <CJ^> ive seen thier CDRW drives here sell for less that $85
[01 Jan/17:23] <Deanajb> it was given to me 
[01 Jan/17:23] <Los`Guy> what is line 2 Deanajb?
[01 Jan/17:23] <Deanajb> #2 is buffershigh=150
[01 Jan/17:24] <Deanajb> #3 is fileshigh=100
[01 Jan/17:24] <CJ^> hmm..
[01 Jan/17:24] <Deanajb> #4 is DEVICE=C:\CDPRO\VIDE-CDD.SYS /D:MSCD001
[01 Jan/17:24] <CJ^> it put in DOS crud...
[01 Jan/17:24] <Los`Guy> rem that also
[01 Jan/17:24] <Deanajb> that #4 i think is for the cdrw
[01 Jan/17:24] <CJ^> im sure ya can rem all that out...
[01 Jan/17:24] <Deanajb> the first three i think were there from my cd rom
[01 Jan/17:24] <Los`Guy> the other might be required if you have some programs..ie compilers
[01 Jan/17:25] <CJ^> well you dont need an dos drivers for the cdrom or cdrw in win9x
[01 Jan/17:25] <Los`Guy> these two are Probably old...but might be needed for some programs:
[01 Jan/17:25] <Los`Guy> [20:23] <Deanajb> #2 is buffershigh=150
[01 Jan/17:25] <Los`Guy> [20:24] <Deanajb> #3 is fileshigh=100
[01 Jan/17:25] <CJ^> hmm...  i dunno...
[01 Jan/17:25] <CJ^> usually thats there for cd or sound card or otehr legacy support...
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[01 Jan/17:28] <y2kcmplnt> hey my icq stopped logging my messages anyone with the same problem?
[01 Jan/17:28] <y2kcmplnt> ot
[01 Jan/17:28] <Los`Guy> yeah because they say "high" I would suspect that too but borland C++ requires similar lines I know
[01 Jan/17:28] <y2kcmplnt> it's already y2k in here
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[01 Jan/17:29] <Deanajb> i'll try the rem on em
[01 Jan/17:29] <Deanajb> if i can't boot up i go to safe mode? and change it back?
[01 Jan/17:30] <CJ^> well  it shouldnt stop boot up if you rem them...
[01 Jan/17:30] <CJ^> it is whats causing this now anyways
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[01 Jan/17:37] <ED`Y2k|N> -22.53
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[01 Jan/17:43] <LosGuy>  <<ÐêtóÑ8®>> v4.0  Digital Damnation Edition.
[01 Jan/17:43] <LosGuy> hehe
[01 Jan/17:46] <LosGuy> Aphrodite `chat
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[01 Jan/17:48] <LosGuy>  <<ÐêtóÑ8®>> v4.0  Digital Damnation Edition.
[01 Jan/17:48] <Elysian> hmm
[01 Jan/17:48] <Elysian> howist?>
[01 Jan/17:48] <LosGuy> :)
[01 Jan/17:48] <LosGuy> nice
[01 Jan/17:48] <LosGuy> just loaded it
[01 Jan/17:48] <Elysian> you know teac makes a 8x CDR Drive that comes with a Adaptec PCI Scsi card
[01 Jan/17:48] <Elysian> is it almost done?
[01 Jan/17:48] <Elysian>  <<ÐêtóÑ8®>> v3.0  Internet terrorism at its finest.
[01 Jan/17:48] <Elysian> hehe
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[01 Jan/17:49] <LosGuy> hehe
[01 Jan/17:49] <LosGuy> Hi ya Ed
[01 Jan/17:49] <LosGuy>  <<ÐêtóÑ8®>> v4.0  Digital Damnation Edition.
[01 Jan/17:49] <Elysian> and 12x drivers were sposed to ship this month
[01 Jan/17:49] <Elysian> howbout a screen shot los?
[01 Jan/17:49] <LosGuy> k hang on
[01 Jan/17:50] < SignOff: ED`Y2k|N!BigEd@12-188.009.popsite.net (<<-NE><GEN·ACiDMAX->> ©1999, Team Nexgen www.team-nexgen.com)
[01 Jan/17:50] <Big`Ed>  <<ÐêtóÑ8®>> v4.0  Digital Damnation Edition.
[01 Jan/17:55] <Elysian> wow
[01 Jan/17:55] <Elysian> i like
[01 Jan/17:55] <Big`Ed> how did YOU get it?
[01 Jan/17:55] <Big`Ed> hehe
[01 Jan/17:55] <Big`Ed> no files
[01 Jan/17:55] <LosGuy> he got a screenshot
[01 Jan/17:56] <Big`Ed> well - till next YEAR
[01 Jan/17:56] <Big`Ed> i'm gone
[01 Jan/17:56] <LosGuy> ok 
[01 Jan/17:56] <Big`Ed> you all be good!
[01 Jan/17:56] <LosGuy> see ya in 2k
[01 Jan/17:56] <Elysian> hehe
[01 Jan/17:56] <Big`Ed> times square in 3
[01 Jan/17:56] <LosGuy> err 00
[01 Jan/17:56] <Elysian> course
[01 Jan/17:56] <LosGuy> yeah
[01 Jan/17:56] <Elysian> its not for another hour here
[01 Jan/17:56] <Big`Ed> 1900 in tex
[01 Jan/17:57] <Elysian> hehe
[01 Jan/17:57] <Big`Ed> cows are not y2k
[01 Jan/17:57] <Big`Ed> better hide
[01 Jan/17:57] <LosGuy> 3hrs here
[01 Jan/17:57] <Big`Ed> hehe
[01 Jan/17:57] <Elysian> yeah Texas Instruments, Compaq, and Dell are gonna die in an hour!:)
[01 Jan/17:57] <Big`Ed> NITES
[01 Jan/17:57] <LosGuy> nite Ed
[01 Jan/17:57] <LosGuy> happy new  year
[01 Jan/17:57] <Elysian> nite ed
[01 Jan/17:57] <Elysian> yeah that too
[01 Jan/17:57] <Elysian> did you know compaq beat dell this year?
[01 Jan/17:58] <LosGuy> no
[01 Jan/17:58] <LosGuy> really?
[01 Jan/17:58] <Elysian> really
[01 Jan/17:58] <Elysian> lemme go get the figures
[01 Jan/17:58] < SignOff: Big`Ed!biged@12-188.009.popsite.net (<<ÐêtóÑ8®>> v4.01 Digital Damnation Edition.)
[01 Jan/17:58] <Elysian> like 3 other companies beat dell too
[01 Jan/17:58] <Elysian> texas based companies
[01 Jan/17:58] <Elysian> all three of em
[01 Jan/17:58] <LosGuy> whats up whith that
[01 Jan/17:59] <LosGuy> the ball is moving
[01 Jan/18:00] <Elysian> is it down yet?
[01 Jan/18:01] <Elysian> hehe
[01 Jan/18:01] <Elysian> i'm bored... the ball thing is boring now
[01 Jan/18:01] <LosGuy> hehe you will like this Elysian it has  built in FTP 
[01 Jan/18:01] <LosGuy> is very very nice
[01 Jan/18:02] <Elysian> hehe
[01 Jan/18:02] <Elysian> the script?
[01 Jan/18:02] <LosGuy> yeah
[01 Jan/18:03] <Elysian> los: is it possible on regular 98 to change it to use 4 digit date system? cause i think its only a SE thing.. in fact i know it...
[01 Jan/18:03] <LosGuy> there are two y2k patches avaliable on MS site (or many other sites)
[01 Jan/18:04] <Elysian> so theres no where to do it in normal 98 with no patches
[01 Jan/18:04] <LosGuy> not that I know of
[01 Jan/18:04] <LosGuy> the patches are small
[01 Jan/18:04] <LosGuy> but I dont know for sure Elysian
[01 Jan/18:05] <LosGuy> I have not used plain win98 for ... well over a year now
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[01 Jan/18:08] <Elysian> well
[01 Jan/18:08] <Elysian> there is a thing to make it show you a 4 digit date
[01 Jan/18:08] <Elysian> but it doesn't make it use one
[01 Jan/18:08] <Elysian> and my dad won't listen to me
[01 Jan/18:08] <Elysian> typical
[01 Jan/18:08] <Elysian> i'm jsut a ignorant kid
[01 Jan/18:09] <LosGuy> hehe
[01 Jan/18:10] <Elysian> sorta sucks...
[01 Jan/18:10] <LosGuy> I dont think that win98 is gonna have alot of problems Elysian...
[01 Jan/18:10] <Elysian> i don't either
[01 Jan/18:10] <Elysian> i told him that
[01 Jan/18:10] <LosGuy> mostly apps
[01 Jan/18:10] <Elysian> but he is paranoid
[01 Jan/18:10] <Elysian> thats exactly what i told him!
[01 Jan/18:11] <LosGuy> there is a program to check your y2k preparedness
[01 Jan/18:11] <Elysian> the apps don't use a 4 digit date without patches or upgrades
[01 Jan/18:11] <Elysian> its just my little bro's pos comp
[01 Jan/18:11] <LosGuy> hehe cant be too paranoid... waiting till the last minute
[01 Jan/18:11] <Elysian> hehe
[01 Jan/18:12] <LosGuy> MS has one of those y2k apps
[01 Jan/18:12] <LosGuy> that checks your system
[01 Jan/18:12] <Elysian> doesn't bother me too much:)
[01 Jan/18:12] * Elysian is on win2k
[01 Jan/18:12] <LosGuy> mine passed with flying colors
[01 Jan/18:12] <Elysian> can't be more y2k ready than that:)
[01 Jan/18:13] <LosGuy> hehe
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[01 Jan/18:14] <Elysian> so when is the full ver gonna be out of det's new script? i noticed the lag ticker... counts lag like linux
[01 Jan/18:14] <Adio-> could someone please send me msrexe.exe from c:\windows\ (i think) because i had to delete it as it was infected with a trojan
[01 Jan/18:14] <LosGuy> Adio- we dont do files at all
[01 Jan/18:14] <LosGuy> here
[01 Jan/18:14] <Adio-> oh
[01 Jan/18:14] <Elysian> sorry no files
[01 Jan/18:14] <Adio-> damn
[01 Jan/18:14] <LosGuy> extract it from your cdrom
[01 Jan/18:15] <Elysian> and no cussing
[01 Jan/18:15] <LosGuy> using SFC
[01 Jan/18:15] <Elysian> yeah
[01 Jan/18:15] <Elysian> start run
[01 Jan/18:15] <Adio-> sorry
[01 Jan/18:15] <Elysian> SFC
[01 Jan/18:15] <Adio-> how do i use it?
[01 Jan/18:15] <LosGuy> start / run / type SFC
[01 Jan/18:15] <LosGuy> tell it to extract a single file
[01 Jan/18:15] <LosGuy> enter the file name
[01 Jan/18:15] <Adio-> k
[01 Jan/18:16] <LosGuy> and point it to the \win98 folder on your win98 cd
[01 Jan/18:16] <Adio-> umm, can you tell me if i have the file name and location right?
[01 Jan/18:16] <LosGuy> and tell it where to put it
[01 Jan/18:16] <LosGuy> I dont have that file
[01 Jan/18:16] <Adio-> :\
[01 Jan/18:17] <Adio-> mrsexe.exe then?
[01 Jan/18:17] <LosGuy> nope
[01 Jan/18:17] <Adio-> hmm
[01 Jan/18:17] <Adio-> maybe i got it wrong
[01 Jan/18:18] <LosGuy> the file you are missing was probably the trojan itslef
[01 Jan/18:18] <LosGuy> doh itself
[01 Jan/18:18] <Adio-> when win98 starts up it goes it can't find the file..
[01 Jan/18:19] <Adio-> is it possible that there is still something telling win98 to start up the trojan on startup?
[01 Jan/18:19] <Elysian> yep
[01 Jan/18:19] <Adio-> where would that be?
[01 Jan/18:19] <Elysian> is this before win98 comes up into the GUI?
[01 Jan/18:19] <Adio-> no
[01 Jan/18:19] <Elysian> or is it when the microsoft windows 98 logo is on the screen
[01 Jan/18:19] <Adio-> this is in the gui
[01 Jan/18:20] <Elysian> ?
[01 Jan/18:20] <Elysian> ok
[01 Jan/18:20] <Adio-> no
[01 Jan/18:20] <Elysian> then run msconfig
[01 Jan/18:20] <Adio-> its when i have the start bar thing on the bottom of the screen
[01 Jan/18:20] <Elysian> run msconfig
[01 Jan/18:20] <Adio-> i have..
[01 Jan/18:20] <Elysian> mrsexe.exe? i'm gonna search AVP for that
[01 Jan/18:20] <Elysian> ok
[01 Jan/18:20] <Elysian> go to the startup tab
[01 Jan/18:20] <Adio-> avp found it
[01 Jan/18:20] <Adio-> yes..
[01 Jan/18:20] <Elysian> then look for mrsexe.exe
[01 Jan/18:21] <Elysian> and unclick it
[01 Jan/18:21] <Elysian> then click ok
[01 Jan/18:21] <Adio-> yeah
[01 Jan/18:21] <Elysian> and it'll never bug you again
[01 Jan/18:21] <Adio-> thank you
[01 Jan/18:21] <Elysian> is it there?
[01 Jan/18:21] <Adio-> yeah
[01 Jan/18:21] <Adio-> thanks
[01 Jan/18:21] <Elysian> ok
[01 Jan/18:21] <Elysian> np
[01 Jan/18:21] <Adio-> bye
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[01 Jan/18:22] * Elysian is listening to the song by queen and david bowie(due) called under pressure that vanilla ice stole the riff from:)
[01 Jan/18:22] <LosGuy> I know that song
[01 Jan/18:23] <Elysian> its a good song
[01 Jan/18:23] <Elysian> i also just found fat bottomed girls
[01 Jan/18:23] <LosGuy> never cared too much for that one
[01 Jan/18:23] <Elysian> heh
[01 Jan/18:23] <Elysian> i think its funny
[01 Jan/18:25] <Elysian> osbourne: happy new year if you're around...
[01 Jan/18:25] <Elysian> long time no see
[01 Jan/18:27] <LosGuy> yeah happy new year os
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[01 Jan/18:29] <D3vlin> whast the Device manager in windows 98 se?
[01 Jan/18:29] <LosGuy> device manager
[01 Jan/18:29] <D3vlin> yes
[01 Jan/18:29] <D3vlin> but where
[01 Jan/18:29] <D3vlin> is it located
[01 Jan/18:29] <D3vlin> run:
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[01 Jan/18:30] <jet> hey los
[01 Jan/18:30] <LosGuy> no idea how to 'run' it D3vlin
[01 Jan/18:30] <LosGuy> hi jet
[01 Jan/18:31] <LosGuy> happy new year to ya
[01 Jan/18:31] <jet> you too
[01 Jan/18:31] <LosGuy> thx
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[01 Jan/18:31] <Elysian> hi jet
[01 Jan/18:31] <jet> hey is avi your av?
[01 Jan/18:31] <jet> hey
[01 Jan/18:31] <LosGuy> avi my av?
[01 Jan/18:31] <LosGuy> you mean avp ?
[01 Jan/18:31] <jet> antivirus
[01 Jan/18:32] <jet> ya]
[01 Jan/18:32] <LosGuy> not right now
[01 Jan/18:32] <LosGuy> in fact I dont have any av installed right now :P
[01 Jan/18:32] <LosGuy> kinda dumb huh?
[01 Jan/18:32] <jet> it found a trojan.flash killer on me know anything on it?
[01 Jan/18:33] <jet> sorta
[01 Jan/18:33] <LosGuy> especially with y2k so close
[01 Jan/18:33] <LosGuy> sounds bad
[01 Jan/18:33] <LosGuy> flash as in flash the bios
[01 Jan/18:33] <jet> crap
[01 Jan/18:33] <jet> when at bootup?
[01 Jan/18:34] <LosGuy> yeah
[01 Jan/18:34] <jet> havent shut down and dont plan to
[01 Jan/18:34] <LosGuy> what does avp site say about it?
[01 Jan/18:34] <jet> nothing
[01 Jan/18:34] <LosGuy> I have never heard of it
[01 Jan/18:34] <LosGuy> do you have the infected file?
[01 Jan/18:34] <jet> pc-cillin lists it but nothin else]
[01 Jan/18:34] <jet> yes
[01 Jan/18:35] <jet> trend didnt find it as well
[01 Jan/18:35] <jet> dont know how
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[01 Jan/18:35] <jet> never done it
[01 Jan/18:36] <Elysian> AVP didn't find it?
[01 Jan/18:37] <Elysian> doh
[01 Jan/18:37] * Elysian is a lile late for this one:)
[01 Jan/18:38] <LosGuy> jet is it in flash player?
[01 Jan/18:38] <jet> avp was the one that found it
[01 Jan/18:39] <jet> mp3 player
[01 Jan/18:39] <Elysian> ?
[01 Jan/18:39] <jet> hold a sec
[01 Jan/18:40] <LosGuy> hey Elysian 
[01 Jan/18:40] <LosGuy> bl0w m3
[01 Jan/18:40] <jet> HYCD
[01 Jan/18:41] <LosGuy> it is a hot key in deton8R now
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[01 Jan/18:41] <jet> player
[01 Jan/18:41] <SaTaNHawK> hello all
[01 Jan/18:41] <LosGuy> hmm
[01 Jan/18:41] <SaTaNHawK> anyone heard of 56 k best data modems ?
[01 Jan/18:41] <Elysian> los: what is?
[01 Jan/18:41] <Elysian> doh
[01 Jan/18:41] <Elysian> thats like 1 minute late:)
[01 Jan/18:41] <LosGuy> have heard of them SaTaNHawK dont know anything about them though 
[01 Jan/18:42] <LosGuy> no just found the key 
[01 Jan/18:42] <LosGuy> so...
[01 Jan/18:42] <LosGuy> bl0w m3
[01 Jan/18:42] <SaTaNHawK> darn cant seem to get it to work in 9
[01 Jan/18:42] <SaTaNHawK> er 98 even
[01 Jan/18:42] <jet> happy new yeard all and good night
[01 Jan/18:42] <LosGuy> nite jet
[01 Jan/18:42] <Elysian> bl0w m3? whats that?
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[01 Jan/18:44] <LosGuy> a hot key in the script
[01 Jan/18:44] <LosGuy> bl0w m3
[01 Jan/18:44] <LosGuy> bl0w m3
[01 Jan/18:44] <LosGuy> bl0w m3
[01 Jan/18:44] <Elysian> for what?
[01 Jan/18:44] <Elysian> what does it do?
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[01 Jan/18:44] <Az|Muh> bl0w m3
[01 Jan/18:44] <Az|Muh> I want to play tooo
[01 Jan/18:44] <LosGuy> hahah
[01 Jan/18:44] <Elysian> hi az
[01 Jan/18:45] <Az|Muh> hi ely
[01 Jan/18:45] <Elysian> bl0w m3
[01 Jan/18:45] <Elysian> so how's the new millenium az?
[01 Jan/18:45] <Az|Muh> its in beta
[01 Jan/18:45] <Az|Muh> hehehehe
[01 Jan/18:45] <Az|Muh> couldn't resist
[01 Jan/18:45] <Elysian> almost been in it for 12 hours?
[01 Jan/18:45] <Elysian> hehe
[01 Jan/18:45] <Az|Muh> 12 hours?
[01 Jan/18:45] <Az|Muh> what you been smokeing?
[01 Jan/18:45] <Az|Muh> 18 hours 45 minutes
[01 Jan/18:46] <Elysian> wow
[01 Jan/18:46] <Elysian> thats a lotta time
[01 Jan/18:46] <LosGuy> F7
[01 Jan/18:46] <LosGuy> hehe
[01 Jan/18:46] <Elysian> your almost into tomorrow
[01 Jan/18:46] <Elysian> we got 15 minutes till y2k
[01 Jan/18:46] <Elysian> hehe
[01 Jan/18:46] <Elysian> :)
[01 Jan/18:50] <LosGuy> kewl Az
[01 Jan/18:50] <LosGuy> doh ely
[01 Jan/18:50] <Az|Muh> lol
[01 Jan/18:50] <LosGuy> are you celebrating at all?
[01 Jan/18:50] <Elysian> so what does bl0w m3 actually do?
[01 Jan/18:51] <Elysian> hehe
[01 Jan/18:51] <Elysian> doh
[01 Jan/18:51] <LosGuy> you just press a button and it says that
[01 Jan/18:51] <LosGuy> bl0w m3
[01 Jan/18:51] * Elysian feels dumb:) thought it was a command for the script:)
[01 Jan/18:51] <Elysian> doh
[01 Jan/18:51] <Elysian> just noticed it said blow me:)
[01 Jan/18:51] <LosGuy> hehe well it is part of the script
[01 Jan/18:51] <LosGuy> doh
[01 Jan/18:51] <LosGuy> haha
[01 Jan/18:52] <Elysian> hmm
[01 Jan/18:52] <Elysian> so what button is it?
[01 Jan/18:52] <Az|Muh> F7
[01 Jan/18:53] <Elysian> hmm
[01 Jan/18:53] <Elysian> cool
[01 Jan/18:53] <Elysian> f7 doesnt' do anything in version 3:( hehe
[01 Jan/18:54] <LosGuy> hehe F6 lauches your last DCC too
[01 Jan/18:54] <LosGuy> doh launches
[01 Jan/18:54] <LosGuy> or so I have heard
[01 Jan/18:54] <Elysian> cool
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[01 Jan/18:54] <Elysian> what bout the ftp thing you talked bout?
[01 Jan/18:54] <LosGuy> it is a ftp client
[01 Jan/18:54] <LosGuy> click it launches
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[01 Jan/18:55] <just1> happy new year!
[01 Jan/18:55] <LosGuy> same to ya
[01 Jan/18:56] <just1> my dell was on as the date passed and it started to emit a high pitch beeb from the tower
[01 Jan/18:56] <Elysian> hmm
[01 Jan/18:56] <Elysian> scary
[01 Jan/18:56] <just1> i checked the date and hit ok but it would not shut the date window
[01 Jan/18:57] <just1> so i soft rebooted and it seems ok
[01 Jan/18:57] <just1> would the sound card or modem be date affected??
[01 Jan/18:57] <Elysian> no
[01 Jan/18:58] <just1> the steady beeb was from the tower though
[01 Jan/18:58] <Elysian> unless your sound card of modem keeps financial records and hasn't been updated:)
[01 Jan/18:58] <LosGuy> hehe
[01 Jan/18:58] <LosGuy> ws_ftp has issues and a patch too
[01 Jan/18:58] <LosGuy> that is about all that I know of
[01 Jan/18:59] <just1> when i checked the system with mcafee software 2 days ago thew software changed the date to 2000 and didnt set it back,the beeb was doing it then
[01 Jan/18:59] <just1> but i found that out and changed it back to 99
[01 Jan/18:59] <LosGuy> hey Elysian... HAPPY NEW YEAR
[01 Jan/19:00] <Elysian> you too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[01 Jan/19:00] <Elysian> i gotsa go
[01 Jan/19:00] <LosGuy> ok
[01 Jan/19:00] <Elysian> my mom must call
[01 Jan/19:00] <Elysian> bout now
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[01 Jan/19:00] <LosGuy> mine is in 2hrs
[01 Jan/19:00] <Azmodan> doh
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[01 Jan/19:01] <LosGuy> hey happy new year `Muff`
[01 Jan/19:01] <`Muff`> 'lo all
[01 Jan/19:01] <Az|Muh> gidday muff
[01 Jan/19:01] <Az|Muh> 1 hour into the new year
[01 Jan/19:01] <`Muff`> Happy New Year!  :)
[01 Jan/19:01] <Az|Muh> how does it feel?
[01 Jan/19:01] <`Muff`> I just feel old ;)
[01 Jan/19:01] <Az|Muh> lol
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[01 Jan/19:02] <`Muff`> Hey KingFan
[01 Jan/19:02] <LosGuy> haha
[01 Jan/19:02] <`Muff`> Oh Well....
[01 Jan/19:03] <LosGuy> I remember thinking what will it be like in 2000... now it is here
[01 Jan/19:04] <just1> times square was awesome
[01 Jan/19:04] <just1> now i wish i had gone
[01 Jan/19:04] <just1> only 1 hr away
[01 Jan/19:04] <`Muff`> Louisville sent a laser Time Capsule into space... it was awesome ;)
[01 Jan/19:04] <just1> cool
[01 Jan/19:05] <just1> saw bill and his family trying to be the perfect family.... what a joke
[01 Jan/19:06] <`Muff`> They have to keep it up so the Stock Market won't crash ;)
[01 Jan/19:09] <just1> well im off to watch the world spin by, have a happy new year all!!
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[01 Jan/19:20] <pyrokiwi> hiya guys
[01 Jan/19:20] <`Muff`> hola pyro
[01 Jan/19:20] <LosGuy> hey kiwiboy
[01 Jan/19:20] <pyrokiwi> any1 any good with setting up internet with 14k modems and linux rh6 ?
[01 Jan/19:21] <LosGuy> you have 14 thousand modems?
[01 Jan/19:21] <LosGuy> :P
[01 Jan/19:21] <LosGuy> never used one pyrokiwi
[01 Jan/19:21] <`Muff`> Prolly not in here, pyro.  Have you tried a Linux channel?
[01 Jan/19:21] <LosGuy> ie #linuxhelp
[01 Jan/19:22] <pyrokiwi> i am bout to just wonderin u guys first
[01 Jan/19:22] <LosGuy> I have done it before
[01 Jan/19:22] <`Muff`> We do Windows ;)
[01 Jan/19:22] * LosGuy dont do floors though
[01 Jan/19:22] <pyrokiwi> hmmm i hav heard u guys talkin bout linux somtimes 
[01 Jan/19:22] <`Muff`> LOL
[01 Jan/19:22] <pyrokiwi> lol
[01 Jan/19:23] <LosGuy> yeah pyrokiwi ... have done it ..it is not that hard
[01 Jan/19:23] <`Muff`> pyro, we drink heavily and sometimes stray from the topic ;)
[01 Jan/19:23] <LosGuy> but I got info on how to do it from #linuxhelp (someone pointed me to a page with the info)
[01 Jan/19:24] <pyrokiwi> ok :)
[01 Jan/19:24] <pyrokiwi> thanx
[01 Jan/19:25] <LosGuy> it is pretty simple pyrokiwi just have to edit a few files
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[01 Jan/19:25] <pyrokiwi> hmmm yeh i hav tried i dont think it helps that old modem
[01 Jan/19:25] <LosGuy> haha `Muff`
[01 Jan/19:25] <pyrokiwi> got it to dial but not connect
[01 Jan/19:25] <LosGuy> I missed that
[01 Jan/19:26] <LosGuy> hmmm
[01 Jan/19:26] <LosGuy> dunno what the age of the modem would mean
[01 Jan/19:26] <pyrokiwi> well 14k modems hav diff intruction sets i think
[01 Jan/19:27] <LosGuy> but linux should have no problems with it
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[01 Jan/19:31] <whizd> Happy New Year all!
[01 Jan/19:31] <LosGuy> thx whizd same to ya
[01 Jan/19:31] <pyrokiwi> thanx
[01 Jan/19:31] <pyrokiwi> i hav already had new years ":)
[01 Jan/19:32] <whizd> Anyone hear of any y2k disasters?
[01 Jan/19:32] * LosGuy watched it on TV last night pyrokiwi
[01 Jan/19:32] <whizd> Well Happy belated New Year to you Pyro!
[01 Jan/19:32] <pyrokiwi> thanx :)
[01 Jan/19:32] <LosGuy> someone said a japanese nuclear power plant shut down... havent read anythng on it and it was not a disaster
[01 Jan/19:33] <pyrokiwi> lol
[01 Jan/19:33] <pyrokiwi> kewl
[01 Jan/19:33] <pyrokiwi> it rained 4 me :(
[01 Jan/19:33] <whizd> That is interesting though..
[01 Jan/19:34] <LosGuy> yeah but fireworks were still visible on TV anyway
[01 Jan/19:34] <LosGuy> (was in wellington)
[01 Jan/19:35] <pyrokiwi> yeh i stayed up all night at party (6 ppl) talked bored 
[01 Jan/19:35] <LosGuy> Japan reported the failure of a computer linked to radiation monitoring devices at a nuclear plant, but said it wasn't considered serious enough to shut the plant. 
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[01 Jan/19:35] <pyrokiwi> then in the morning this girl there said that i was gonna ride her horse
[01 Jan/19:37] <LosGuy> so did you?
[01 Jan/19:37] <pyrokiwi> yep
[01 Jan/19:37] <LosGuy> Japan reported the failure of a computer linked to radiation monitoring devices at a nuclear plant, but said it wasn't considered serious enough to shut the plant. 
[01 Jan/19:37] <pyrokiwi> so i learnt to jump (low jumps)
[01 Jan/19:37] <LosGuy> doh
[01 Jan/19:38] <LosGuy> Among the scattered Y2K glitches that did crop up, a provincial court in South Korea issued automated summonses to 170 people to appear for trial on Jan. 4, 1900 instead of Jan. 4, 2000.
[01 Jan/19:38] <pyrokiwi> lol
[01 Jan/19:40] <pyrokiwi> hmmm now shes annoyed with me cause she reckons the horse likes me better then her
[01 Jan/19:41] <LosGuy> hehe
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[01 Jan/19:42] <whizd> So the 170 South Koreans each get a FTP Warrant? 
[01 Jan/19:43] <Los`Guy> yeah
[01 Jan/19:43] <Los`Guy> http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20000101/ts/y2k_world_rdp.html
[01 Jan/19:43] <pyrokiwi> woops when u change windows size it reloads every webpage
[01 Jan/19:43] <pyrokiwi> creates laf
[01 Jan/19:43] <pyrokiwi> lag
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[01 Jan/19:44] <pyrokiwi> then crashes'
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[01 Jan/19:44] <Cronic> Any think they can help with a desplay prob?
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[01 Jan/19:45] <Cronic> never mind
[01 Jan/19:45] <Cronic> I fixed it 
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[01 Jan/19:46] <pyrokiwi> lol
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[01 Jan/20:15] <pyrokiwi> sya all
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[01 Jan/20:17] <LosGuy> `say
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[01 Jan/20:29] <Batman> I need to connect to a pc with windows 3.1 I have laplink on my other pc and a serial data cabel between them. How should i get files from that computer? laplink is not installed on the other computer
[01 Jan/20:30] <Batman> can anyone help me?
[01 Jan/20:34] <Batman> well?
[01 Jan/20:34] <Batman> I need to get this done b4 12am...
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[01 Jan/20:38] <Nig> Everytime I log into windows, my computer tries to dial out to the internet.  How can I turn that off?
[01 Jan/20:38] <LosGuy> Nig in control panel / internet tell it you connect via a lan
[01 Jan/20:38] <LosGuy> or actually
[01 Jan/20:39] <LosGuy> just take widows update out of task manager
[01 Jan/20:39] <Nig> I want it to connect when I run explorer, I just don't want it to do it every time I log in.
[01 Jan/20:39] <Nig> Task manager, or task scheduler?
[01 Jan/20:40] <LosGuy> doh yeah scheduler
[01 Jan/20:40] <LosGuy> that is a common cause of that
[01 Jan/20:40] <Nig> I don't have the scheduler running.
[01 Jan/20:41] <LosGuy> then do the first thing that I suggested cept you will have to connect via dialup networking shortcut 
[01 Jan/20:41] <Batman> why wouldn't anyone help me??
[01 Jan/20:41] * LosGuy dont do 3.1 or laplink
[01 Jan/20:41] <Nig> I have also checked the run and run services under both local machine and current user in the registry, as well as checking startup, and nothing I can find should be trying to hit the internet.
[01 Jan/20:42] <LosGuy> Nig annoyances.org has info on your problem
[01 Jan/20:42] <Nig> Thanks, I'll check.
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[01 Jan/20:43] <Batman> well i kinda need to get this info quickly
[01 Jan/20:43] <LosGuy> get that info?
[01 Jan/20:43] <LosGuy> is that all you need is info?
[01 Jan/20:44] <LosGuy> why not slave the HD
[01 Jan/20:44] <Batman> some huge files...
[01 Jan/20:44] <Batman> do what?
[01 Jan/20:45] <LosGuy> take the HD outof the computer you run win3.1 on .. set the jumper to slave and then put it in your win98 box, detecte it and you should see it as ie D: on your win98 box
[01 Jan/20:45] <LosGuy> you will be able to copy your large files much faster that way
[01 Jan/20:45] <LosGuy> (detect means detect it in bios)
[01 Jan/20:46] <Batman> when i installed the old hard drive into the new pc, I had a problem. On 3.1 the hd is c: & D: drive. I got the C: drive, but i need the info on the d:
[01 Jan/20:47] <Batman> I checked fdisk on the 3.1
[01 Jan/20:47] <Batman> but I'm not to familiar with it
[01 Jan/20:48] <LosGuy> you were here with this problem last night?
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[01 Jan/20:49] <Batman> yup
[01 Jan/20:49] <LosGuy> well good luck
[01 Jan/20:50] <Batman> called best buy and they said i needed to buy a data cabel...so i did, but they said i should run it through my computer
[01 Jan/20:50] <Batman> what is the command you use to access a shell?
[01 Jan/20:51] <Batman> like in run to get into the program
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[01 Jan/21:40] <Dmonn> what is the min. HDD size you need to install Win 98
[01 Jan/21:40] <Dmonn> ?
[01 Jan/21:41] <LosGuy> depends on what you install but the exact specs are on your cdrom (install.txt I belive)
[01 Jan/21:59] <Dmonn> well i was asking because i just saw a laptop being sold with win 98 in it and only a 250Mb HD and i find that hard to imagine, because i have tried to install it on a 400MB HD and during setup it stops me and says that i need 6xxMB free space, so i was just wondering if there are versions that can be used on smaller drives
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[01 Jan/22:02] <LosGuy> Dmonn there are minimal installs that would fit.. you wouldnt have any space left on that HD though
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[01 Jan/22:03] <Dmonn> thats why i found it hard to believe :)
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[01 Jan/22:03] <LosGuy> a 240mb hd is hard to belive these days
[01 Jan/22:03] <LosGuy> you could run win95 on that ok as long as you didnt need any big apps
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[01 Jan/22:04] <Dmonn> a 240 HD on my IBM parts list goes for $880
[01 Jan/22:04] <Dmonn> however a 12 Gig goes for less than $300
[01 Jan/22:05] <Dmonn> imagine that :)
[01 Jan/22:05] <LosGuy> hehe
[01 Jan/22:06] <Azmodan> w98 hi
[01 Jan/22:06] <w98> que tal, Azmodan
[01 Jan/22:08] <Dmonn> later ppls
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[01 Jan/22:53] <Fresia001> what would make win98 stop and start like a car runnng out of petrol
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[02 Jan/00:13] <lazer69> Is there a way to configure windows to shutdown at a certain time?
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[02 Jan/00:25] <cd-writer> can someone help me plz?
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[02 Jan/01:40] <purikura> hi
[02 Jan/01:40] <w98> what's up, purikura
[02 Jan/01:40] <purikura> can someone tell me if there is a security feature in office 2000?
[02 Jan/01:41] <purikura> I heard is sends some personal infor to MS over the internet
[02 Jan/01:41] <purikura> is it true?
[02 Jan/01:43] <purikura> hello
[02 Jan/01:43] <purikura> anyone there?
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[02 Jan/02:10] <girlxxx> salut tout l'monde
[02 Jan/02:11] <CJ^> ?
[02 Jan/02:11] <girlxxx> hi
[02 Jan/02:11] <w98> salut, girlxxx
[02 Jan/02:11] <girlxxx> ca va
[02 Jan/02:11] <CJ^> english....
[02 Jan/02:11] <girlxxx> now
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[02 Jan/02:16] <pantherp> can someone help me?
[02 Jan/02:17] <CJ^> with?
[02 Jan/02:17] <CJ^> `op
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[02 Jan/02:17] <pantherp> i have a seagate 20gigas barracudas hdd
[02 Jan/02:17] <pantherp> 7.200 RPS
[02 Jan/02:17] <pantherp> but it doesn't seem that fast
[02 Jan/02:17] <CJ^> so...
[02 Jan/02:17] <CJ^> not a win98 issue...
[02 Jan/02:18] <pantherp> any ideas?
[02 Jan/02:18] <CJ^> none..
[02 Jan/02:18] <CJ^> its not an OS issue
[02 Jan/02:18] <CJ^> i have a 7200rpm drive...
[02 Jan/02:18] <CJ^> seems fine to me..
[02 Jan/02:18] <pantherp> u see..when i play games
[02 Jan/02:18] <pantherp> it oftens loads
[02 Jan/02:18] <pantherp> thus slows down the game
[02 Jan/02:19] <CJ^> well.. the parger the drive.. and the larger the partiton.. that can sometimes cause it to act slow...
[02 Jan/02:20] <pantherp> well..it's split into 2 particions of 10 gigas each
[02 Jan/02:20] <CJ^> well still...  its nto going to be a screamer...
[02 Jan/02:20] <CJ^> IDE can only really be so fast...
[02 Jan/02:21] <CJ^> its the BUS its on...
[02 Jan/02:21] <pantherp> will udma66 make any difference?
[02 Jan/02:21] <CJ^> none that i have seen...
[02 Jan/02:21] <CJ^> not even with a UDMA 66 controller..
[02 Jan/02:22] <pantherp> i've seen faster ide harddisks
[02 Jan/02:22] <pantherp> and seagate claims that this one is the fastest
[02 Jan/02:22] <CJ^> IDE is all basically the same
[02 Jan/02:22] <CJ^> 7200 rpm drives area bit faster 
[02 Jan/02:23] <CJ^> but not lightening
[02 Jan/02:23] <pantherp> and it's making that anoying noice every time it loads
[02 Jan/02:23] <CJ^> what noise?
[02 Jan/02:24] <pantherp> like..every time it starts windows
[02 Jan/02:24] <pantherp> it's so noisy
[02 Jan/02:24] <CJ^> some drives are loud  
[02 Jan/02:24] <CJ^> some are quiet...
[02 Jan/02:24] <CJ^> its not an OS issue though...
[02 Jan/02:25] <pantherp> well...does the udma box do any difference?
[02 Jan/02:25] <pantherp> i have it checked
[02 Jan/02:25] <CJ^> no..
[02 Jan/02:26] <pantherp> but i haven't noticed any
[02 Jan/02:26] <CJ^> it doesnt speed up anything
[02 Jan/02:26] <CJ^> read the UDMA faq on Seagates site for more info
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[02 Jan/02:27] <pantherp> i have..it doesn't say anything
[02 Jan/02:27] <CJ^> the drive speed has more to do with the systems BUS speed than the  os...
[02 Jan/02:27] <pantherp> well..i am using an asus m/b with a p3-500 mhz 
[02 Jan/02:27] <pantherp> how comes and i get slowdowns?
[02 Jan/02:27] <CJ^> maybe the hard drive needs to be defragged...
[02 Jan/02:28] <pantherp> i did that too
[02 Jan/02:28] <pantherp> and i don't have any TSR programs
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[02 Jan/02:31] <CJ^> well im on the seagate site right now..
[02 Jan/02:31] <CJ^> and it does explain  UATA/UDMA
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[02 Jan/05:05] <Squid> anyone alive?
[02 Jan/05:05] <CJ^> `op
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[02 Jan/05:05] <CJ^> yeap
[02 Jan/05:05] <enter1> surely
[02 Jan/05:05] <Squid> cool, any of ya's know how to find a base address for a network card under win98 se?
[02 Jan/05:05] <CJ^> MAC address?
[02 Jan/05:06] <Squid> well, i'm installing another operating system wich requires me to know the IRQ and the Base-Adress value.. they give an example of a base-address wich is 0x340
[02 Jan/05:06] <CJ^> winipcfg
[02 Jan/05:06] <CJ^> LInux.. right
[02 Jan/05:06] <Squid> yeah :P
[02 Jan/05:06] <enter1> winipcfg
[02 Jan/05:06] <CJ^> what nic you installing?
[02 Jan/05:07] <CJ^> and under what distro?
[02 Jan/05:07] <Squid> Ne2000 ISA *cough*
[02 Jan/05:07] <Squid> linux madrake
[02 Jan/05:07] <CJ^> so...  modprobe
[02 Jan/05:07] <CJ^> ya dont actually need the base address..
[02 Jan/05:07] <Squid> it wouldn't detect it through auto probe
[02 Jan/05:07] <Squid> so to install it manually 
[02 Jan/05:07] <Squid> it need the irq and base address
[02 Jan/05:07] <CJ^> then look in the device manager
[02 Jan/05:08] <CJ^> what version of mandrake?
[02 Jan/05:08] <Squid> 6.0
[02 Jan/05:08] <CJ^> 6 and up shoudl find it no problems
[02 Jan/05:08] <CJ^> modprobe ne
[02 Jan/05:08] <CJ^> that shoudl do it...
[02 Jan/05:08] <Squid> ok thanks :)
[02 Jan/05:09] <CJ^> if not
[02 Jan/05:09] <CJ^> check the device manager...
[02 Jan/05:09] <Squid> for a base-address?
[02 Jan/05:09] <CJ^> for the I/O , IRQ and alll
[02 Jan/05:09] <Squid> ahh ok.. thanks :)
[02 Jan/05:09] <CJ^> but if the card is in PnP mode  you may need to take it out of PnP mode..
[02 Jan/05:09] <Squid> ah right.. ok cool :)
[02 Jan/05:10] <CJ^> might want to check linux.com for help as well..
[02 Jan/05:10] <Squid> thanks :)
[02 Jan/05:10] <CJ^> or try dmesg at a console and see if its even found
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[02 Jan/05:14] <FultarX> anyone msce??
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[02 Jan/05:14] <CJ^> MCSE trained....
[02 Jan/05:14] <CJ^> why
[02 Jan/05:14] <CJ^> what do you needed?
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[02 Jan/05:14] <CJ^> er need
[02 Jan/05:15] <FultarX> I get this error
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[02 Jan/05:15] <FultarX> Suwin caused Segment load failure in module krnl386.exe at 0001:116E
[02 Jan/05:15] <FultarX> when I am installing win 98se
[02 Jan/05:15] <CJ^> under?
[02 Jan/05:15] <CJ^> ahh
[02 Jan/05:16] <CJ^> retail copy of the win98 se?
[02 Jan/05:16] <FultarX> i get it usually while it is making a startup disk
[02 Jan/05:16] <FultarX> yeah...upgrade
[02 Jan/05:16] <CJ^> well bypass the boot disk
[02 Jan/05:16] <FultarX> how do I do that??
[02 Jan/05:17] <CJ^> setup /?
[02 Jan/05:17] <CJ^> gives you the switches
[02 Jan/05:17] <FultarX> okay I am just about done formatting the drive
[02 Jan/05:18] <FultarX> I will try it
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[02 Jan/05:18] <Guest1961> i have a question- i installed a 64 meg pc100 sdram chip in a kinda old computer, and it only ops up as 16 megs when I tun on the computer....  what is going on?
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[02 Jan/05:20] <CJ^> well.. does the computer suuport PC100 sdram? and does the computer support more than 64mb?
[02 Jan/05:21] <Guest1961> well, I replaced some edo ram with the 64 meg chip
[02 Jan/05:21] <Guest1961> so it's only that chip
[02 Jan/05:21] <Guest1961> if it doesn't support the pc100, would it support the 66mhz sdram?
[02 Jan/05:21] <CJ^> well...  why dont you check the mb manual for help?
[02 Jan/05:21] <CJ^> or dont you have that?
[02 Jan/05:22] <FultarX> thanks cj...so far so good...but I wil stick around for a bit
[02 Jan/05:22] <CJ^> and are you trying to run sdram and edo at the same time?
[02 Jan/05:22] <CJ^> np
[02 Jan/05:22] <Guest1961> i dont have the manual...
[02 Jan/05:22] <FultarX> why would it do that???
[02 Jan/05:22] <Guest1961> and no, just the sdram
[02 Jan/05:22] <FultarX> do you know....
[02 Jan/05:23] <CJ^> FultraX  well where did ya get your copy of win98 se?
[02 Jan/05:23] <CJ^> Guest  ok  what mb?
[02 Jan/05:23] <FultarX> Staples...
[02 Jan/05:23] <FultarX> and it worked fine before...
[02 Jan/05:23] <FultarX> jus when I got this new comp
[02 Jan/05:23] <CJ^> ok  and your tryign to upgrade win95?
[02 Jan/05:23] <Guest1961> i dont even know...
[02 Jan/05:23] <Guest1961> the computer isn't here
[02 Jan/05:23] <CJ^> guest.. well you are gonna hev to find out..
[02 Jan/05:23] <FultarX> no....bypassing...
[02 Jan/05:23] <CJ^> its not a win98 issue...
[02 Jan/05:24] <CJ^> bypassing?
[02 Jan/05:24] <FultarX> just using my old win 95 upgrade cd as proof
[02 Jan/05:24] <FultarX> fresh install....
[02 Jan/05:24] <CJ^> ah
[02 Jan/05:24] <CJ^> ok
[02 Jan/05:24] <CJ^> still an upgrade  but a better way i agree
[02 Jan/05:24] <FultarX> on a AMD athlon 600
[02 Jan/05:24] <FultarX> seems to be doing all right
[02 Jan/05:24] <FultarX> never got past 63% before
[02 Jan/05:25] <FultarX> no it is at 75%
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[02 Jan/05:25] <FultarX> now it is I mean
[02 Jan/05:25] <CJ^> well the Athlons have been touchy  
[02 Jan/05:25] <CJ^> why i avoided em
[02 Jan/05:25] <FultarX> so I have heard...you work for Bill?
[02 Jan/05:25] <CJ^> no
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[02 Jan/05:26] <FultarX> well heck...looks like it installed
[02 Jan/05:26] <mr407> anyone use FreeAgent and aol?
[02 Jan/05:27] <FultarX> cj: you the man!
[02 Jan/05:27] <CJ^> hell no
[02 Jan/05:27] <CJ^> NO AOL..
[02 Jan/05:27] <FultarX> wait a min
[02 Jan/05:27] <FultarX> yo CJ
[02 Jan/05:27] <FultarX> got another one for you
[02 Jan/05:27] <FultarX> says 
[02 Jan/05:27] <FultarX> shit
[02 Jan/05:27] <FultarX> shut off on me
[02 Jan/05:27] <CJ^> language
[02 Jan/05:28] <FultarX> sorry
[02 Jan/05:28] <`Remy> hello
[02 Jan/05:28] <w98> what's up, `Remy
[02 Jan/05:28] <FultarX> was a 
[02 Jan/05:28] <CJ^> have ya checked AMD's site for any info yet?
[02 Jan/05:28] <FultarX> VxD error
[02 Jan/05:28] <`Remy> i just updated my bios and after that my sound card wont work properly
[02 Jan/05:28] <CJ^> not overclocking are ya?
[02 Jan/05:28] <FultarX> overclocking what??
[02 Jan/05:28] <CJ^> the CPU
[02 Jan/05:29] <`Remy> anybody know y?
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[02 Jan/05:29] <FultarX> well it was set at 600 from the guys who sold me the chip
[02 Jan/05:29] <CJ^> Remy...  IQR conflict?
[02 Jan/05:29] <FultarX> modified from 500 to 600
[02 Jan/05:29] <CJ^> have ta checked the device manager yet?
[02 Jan/05:29] <CJ^> what MB Fultar?
[02 Jan/05:29] <FultarX> Asus K7M
[02 Jan/05:30] <`Remy> not irq conflict 
[02 Jan/05:30] <CJ^> ok.. well  it boots up and says its aK7 600 right?
[02 Jan/05:30] <FultarX> yeah
[02 Jan/05:30] <CJ^> Remy  whats teh exact issue then?
[02 Jan/05:30] <`Remy> wait
[02 Jan/05:30] <`Remy> need to reboot 1st can't remember what the error
[02 Jan/05:32] <CJ^> Fultar.. whats in the system completly?
[02 Jan/05:32] <CJ^> cause AMD has some issues on OS installs..
[02 Jan/05:32] <CJ^> for the K7 that is
[02 Jan/05:32] <FultarX> I started to load win98 again..and before it even asked me for anything...said "SUWIN caused Segment LOad Failure in module Krnl386.exe at 0001:116E
[02 Jan/05:32] <CJ^> ok
[02 Jan/05:33] <CJ^> remove everythign except the video card...
[02 Jan/05:33] <FultarX> I already did that
[02 Jan/05:33] <CJ^> no sound.. no modem.. nothign else except the basics for the install...
[02 Jan/05:33] <CJ^> ok
[02 Jan/05:33] <FultarX> before I met up with you
[02 Jan/05:33] <CJ^> ok
[02 Jan/05:33] <FultarX> pc100 ram cas 2 IBM
[02 Jan/05:34] <FultarX> fsb is set to 100
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[02 Jan/05:34] <FultarX> should I format the drive again? or copy over?
[02 Jan/05:35] <CJ^> well  im looking up some issues..
[02 Jan/05:35] <FultarX> k thanks
[02 Jan/05:35] <CJ^> seeing if anyone else has had this problem...
[02 Jan/05:37] <CJ^> seems everyone is having issues.. hmm
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[02 Jan/05:37] <CJ^> not just with Asus boards..
[02 Jan/05:37] <CJ^> all K7's
[02 Jan/05:37] <CJ^> on all OS's as well..
[02 Jan/05:37] <Remind> Wello! guyz
[02 Jan/05:37] <FultarX> yeah...
[02 Jan/05:38] <FultarX> just installing right or period?
[02 Jan/05:38] <CJ^> yeap
[02 Jan/05:38] <CJ^> well cept for NT and some linux distros  yeap
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[02 Jan/05:38] <`Remy> back
[02 Jan/05:39] <`Remy> my error msg: the audiopci interrupt has been routed incorrecctly by the system. sound inactive. use automatic settings in the device manager
[02 Jan/05:39] <CJ^> then itss an IRQ error...
[02 Jan/05:40] <CJ^> Ensoique PCI sound>>> aka SB 64 PCI
[02 Jan/05:40] <`Remy> yup
[02 Jan/05:40] <`Remy> i already use automatic setting
[02 Jan/05:40] <`Remy> no conflict with other
[02 Jan/05:40] <CJ^> SUWIN caused a GPF in module krnl386.exe at 0001:xxxx   <<< mopst common error noted FultarX
[02 Jan/05:40] <CJ^> $10  is an MS win98/98se problem
[02 Jan/05:41] <CJ^> i dont see a reason why it shouldnt be an OS issue at this point..
[02 Jan/05:41] <CJ^> Remy.. remove and re-install the card?
[02 Jan/05:41] <`Remy> already
[02 Jan/05:41] <CJ^> that card.. IMHO  is a major pain in the arse...
[02 Jan/05:41] <FultarX> what can I do?
[02 Jan/05:41] <CJ^> Fultar.. doenst look like much ya can do...
[02 Jan/05:42] <CJ^> its the most common error
[02 Jan/05:42] <CJ^> im checking the MS usenet groups for answers..
[02 Jan/05:42] <FultarX> k
[02 Jan/05:43] <`Remy> device status: the device is either not present, not working properly, or does not have all the drivers installed (code 10.)
[02 Jan/05:43] <CJ^> ok.. so  maybe updated drivers?
[02 Jan/05:44] <FultarX> what if I were to install win 95 and then upgrade...you think that would get around the problem?
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[02 Jan/05:44] <CJ^> that i dont know...
[02 Jan/05:44] <CJ^> seems the problem is there if you do the install..
[02 Jan/05:44] <CJ^> BUT  if its an OEM install... IBM aptivas... and what not  are ok...
[02 Jan/05:44] <HouZi> hi all, does anyone here have a CD-Key for win98
[02 Jan/05:45] <FultarX> wha?
[02 Jan/05:45] <CJ^> no keys
[02 Jan/05:45] <CJ^> buy your own copy
[02 Jan/05:45] <FultarX> yeah anyways
[02 Jan/05:45] <HouZi> sorry
[02 Jan/05:45] <CJ^> yeap
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[02 Jan/05:45] <CJ^> seems  ppl that BOUGHT a computer with a K7 are fine
[02 Jan/05:45] <FultarX> why would oem be different?
[02 Jan/05:46] <CJ^> cause  THEY install it   
[02 Jan/05:46] <CJ^> they may have a work around..
[02 Jan/05:46] <CJ^> it could be a bios issue
[02 Jan/05:46] <FultarX> bios issue??
[02 Jan/05:46] <FultarX> for me?
[02 Jan/05:46] <CJ^> hmmm
[02 Jan/05:46] <CJ^> seems its not limited to k7
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[02 Jan/05:46] <CJ^> but k6 as well..
[02 Jan/05:47] <FultarX> there is an updated bios for my mobo
[02 Jan/05:47] <CJ^> and  some are pointing to overclocking.. and over heating of the CPU...
[02 Jan/05:47] <FultarX> but I didn't bother
[02 Jan/05:47] <FultarX> trust me
[02 Jan/05:47] <FultarX> my cpu is not overheating
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[02 Jan/05:47] <CJ^> im just teling you what im reading in the newsgroups  and what others are finding out
[02 Jan/05:47] <FultarX> I bought the chip from step-thermodynamics
[02 Jan/05:48] <FultarX> and they claim that after thy rig it up...they test the chip for stability
[02 Jan/05:48] <FultarX> now how they test it I dunno..
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[02 Jan/05:49] <FultarX> but they recommend and build the chip around the k7m board..which I am using
[02 Jan/05:49] <CJ^> ill stick woth the k6 3  or PIII for now..
[02 Jan/05:49] <CJ^> seen to many headaches with teh K7
[02 Jan/05:49] <`Remy> but it's not my bios fault?
[02 Jan/05:49] <w98> I haven't seen 'to', CJ^
[02 Jan/05:50] <CJ^> Remy.. no
[02 Jan/05:50] <CJ^> its the card...
[02 Jan/05:50] <FultarX> I just sold a k6-3
[02 Jan/05:50] <CJ^> the bios was upgraded...
[02 Jan/05:50] <CJ^> so.. it shuffled around some IRQ's
[02 Jan/05:50] <CJ^> happens
[02 Jan/05:50] <CJ^> turn PnP off..
[02 Jan/05:50] <CJ^> and check SB for help as well..
[02 Jan/05:50] <`Remy> but in my bios there is a setting for built in sound card
[02 Jan/05:51] <`Remy> my m/b don;t have any built in sound card
[02 Jan/05:51] <CJ^> ?
[02 Jan/05:51] <CJ^> um...
[02 Jan/05:51] <CJ^> what BIOS and what MB?
[02 Jan/05:51] <`Remy> ami bios
[02 Jan/05:51] <FultarX> cj: should I flash my bios to the newest one?
[02 Jan/05:51] <CJ^> FultarX  worht a shot...
[02 Jan/05:51] <CJ^> really is..
[02 Jan/05:52] <CJ^> im still looking at it being a Win98 SE/win98 issue though...
[02 Jan/05:52] <FultarX> ahh
[02 Jan/05:52] <FultarX> well lemme get it and do that while you are looking...
[02 Jan/05:52] <CJ^> but  you do know that all the MB for the k7 are still considered BETA
[02 Jan/05:53] <FultarX> yeah...especially the k7M
[02 Jan/05:53] <CJ^> yeap
[02 Jan/05:53] <CJ^> biggest reason i stay away from em
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[02 Jan/05:55] <FultarX> what are you runnin now?
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[02 Jan/05:56] <CJ^> k6 3 400
[02 Jan/05:57] <FultarX> that is what I just sold...with a asus P5A board
[02 Jan/05:57] <CJ^> ick
[02 Jan/05:57] <CJ^> hate those baords..
[02 Jan/05:57] <CJ^> worthless POS
[02 Jan/05:58] <CJ^> never worked correctly...
[02 Jan/05:58] <FultarX> problem was I have a Xentor 32 tnt2u card....and I had to set the core back from 175 to 150 with a bios change
[02 Jan/05:58] <FultarX> cause the board wasn't up to spec to power the card
[02 Jan/05:58] <CJ^> the problem is that the ALi5 chipsets dont work well with the TNT cards at all...
[02 Jan/05:58] <CJ^> nor G200/400 or ATI rage 128
[02 Jan/05:59] <FultarX> before that I had a Diamond V770Ultra on a Fic 2013 w/2MB of cache
[02 Jan/05:59] <FultarX> and it burnt up the agp slot and the card....
[02 Jan/05:59] <CJ^> ill stick with AOpen, tyan or soyo for now...
[02 Jan/05:59] <FultarX> I burned up 2 boards by the time fic realize what was going on and put it on their web site
[02 Jan/06:00] <CJ^> Asus has gone downhill recently...
[02 Jan/06:00] <CJ^> not a good sign
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[02 Jan/06:01] <FultarX> find anything else??
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[02 Jan/06:02] <Elysian> hi
[02 Jan/06:02] <FultarX> hi
[02 Jan/06:02] <w98> hey, FultarX
[02 Jan/06:02] <FultarX> yeah
[02 Jan/06:02] <Elysian> `up
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[02 Jan/06:03] <Elysian> `op megaDETH_
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[02 Jan/06:04] <Elysian> `down
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[02 Jan/06:04] <Elysian> hi warn
[02 Jan/06:04] <Elysian> `voice *
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[02 Jan/06:04] <FultarX> will flashing my bios like blow my computer up??
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[02 Jan/06:04] <WarnBufet> not if you do it right
[02 Jan/06:05] <Elysian> fultar: no but if you don't keep a back up then if it messes up you lose all
[02 Jan/06:05] <FultarX> how about using the mobo's flash utility
[02 Jan/06:05] <Elysian> yeah but you still wanna make a back up of it... see the how to section on it
[02 Jan/06:05] <CJ^> just follow the instructions
[02 Jan/06:06] <Elysian> Mega`DETH chat
[02 Jan/06:09] <FultarX> k
[02 Jan/06:09] <FultarX> here goes nothin
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[02 Jan/06:10] * `Remy still confuse about his sound card conflict
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[02 Jan/06:10] <Elysian> wb warn
[02 Jan/06:10] <Elysian> remy: what type o conflict?
[02 Jan/06:10] <Elysian> pnp sound card?
[02 Jan/06:11] <`Remy> yup pnp sound card
[02 Jan/06:11] <CJ^> PCI 64 SB
[02 Jan/06:11] <`Remy> error msg: the audiopci intterupt has been routed incorrectly by te system. sound inactive. use automatic setting on the device manager
[02 Jan/06:12] <`Remy> i already use automatic seeting
[02 Jan/06:13] <CJ^> ok
[02 Jan/06:13] <CJ^> lemme check SB's site
[02 Jan/06:13] <`Remy> already
[02 Jan/06:14] <`Remy> dunno what to do
[02 Jan/06:15] <CJ^> update the drivers?
[02 Jan/06:15] <`Remy> already
[02 Jan/06:15] <Elysian> did you try removing it and re adding it?
[02 Jan/06:15] <Elysian> also
[02 Jan/06:16] <`Remy> but still error
[02 Jan/06:16] <Elysian> have you checked in your bios that PNP OS is enabled?
[02 Jan/06:16] <FultarX> k...looked like I flashed it
[02 Jan/06:16] <CJ^> try a different PCI slot?
[02 Jan/06:16] <FultarX> and it seems to be working
[02 Jan/06:16] <Elysian> fultar: what type of bios is it?
[02 Jan/06:16] <CJ^> install is working this time??
[02 Jan/06:17] <`Remy> i already do it be4
[02 Jan/06:17] <`Remy> :)
[02 Jan/06:17] <Elysian> did it say anything int he howto bout holding the end key down when you reboot until it comes up?
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[02 Jan/06:17] <FultarX> amibios
[02 Jan/06:17] <Elysian> yeah
[02 Jan/06:17] <FultarX> I haven't tried installing yet
[02 Jan/06:17] <Elysian> you gotsa hold end when you reboot
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[02 Jan/06:17] <CJ^> hmm ok
[02 Jan/06:17] <FultarX> hold end??
[02 Jan/06:17] <CJ^> is this the SB PCI64  or the ensonique???
[02 Jan/06:18] <CJ^> which one
[02 Jan/06:18] <Elysian> fultar: i would reboot now cause thats the only way to know it works
[02 Jan/06:18] <FultarX> It just reboot on its own....
[02 Jan/06:18] <`Remy> sb pci128
[02 Jan/06:18] <Elysian> ensonique is a 32 voice card
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[02 Jan/06:18] <CJ^> geezeus
[02 Jan/06:18] <FultarX> acpi aware O/S??
[02 Jan/06:19] <CJ^> yes FultarX
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[02 Jan/06:19] <CJ^> win98se is acpi aware
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[02 Jan/06:19] <`Remy> hmmm
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[02 Jan/06:19] <mrgone> woo
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[02 Jan/06:20] * `Remy want to throw his sound card
[02 Jan/06:20] <FultarX> what did you say I had to do??
[02 Jan/06:20] <FultarX> hold end??
[02 Jan/06:20] <CJ^> are you running the DOS drivers for the card as well?
[02 Jan/06:20] <Elysian> fultar: yeah
[02 Jan/06:20] <`Remy> nope
[02 Jan/06:21] <FultarX> what does that do?
[02 Jan/06:21] <CJ^> and ya checked msconfig to confirm that too
[02 Jan/06:21] <Elysian> fultar: it makes it recognize the flash and stuff
[02 Jan/06:21] <FultarX> it just loaded the new bios...and rebooted on its own
[02 Jan/06:21] <Elysian> fultar: it says you have ta do tha
[02 Jan/06:21] <Elysian> t
[02 Jan/06:21] <FultarX> no it didn't....
[02 Jan/06:21] <FultarX> it just reset on its own
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[02 Jan/06:23] <CJ^> Remy....
[02 Jan/06:23] <CJ^> check deja.com
[02 Jan/06:23] <CJ^> there are a few listings for the SB PCI128  and this issue
[02 Jan/06:23] <CJ^> and how to try to fix it
[02 Jan/06:24] <CJ^> there is even a reply from Creative labs in there as well...
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[02 Jan/06:25] <CJ^> mostly it agrees that changing the PCI slot that the card is int
[02 Jan/06:25] <CJ^> OR checking the PIC slot and IRQ for that slot...
[02 Jan/06:25] <CJ^> er PCI
[02 Jan/06:26] <CJ^> all in the bios...
[02 Jan/06:26] <`Remy> ok
[02 Jan/06:27] <FultarX> I am to press and hold "end" as it reboots??
[02 Jan/06:28] <Elysian> yeah
[02 Jan/06:29] <Elysian> before you turn the power on hold the end key and keep it down until you see NVRAM update.... OK
[02 Jan/06:29] <Elysian> thats what you'll see
[02 Jan/06:29] <FultarX> how would I know if it updates??
[02 Jan/06:29] <Elysian> if it says ok
[02 Jan/06:30] <Elysian> i believe it takes you into the new bios too
[02 Jan/06:31] <FultarX> hmm..
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[02 Jan/06:32] <FultarX> is there a help in the flasher do you know
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[02 Jan/06:34] <limeman> can somebody help me with a paration problem??
[02 Jan/06:35] <Elysian> fultar: no but i've flashed mine and it is ami.... i had to hold end and it brought me to my new bios
[02 Jan/06:35] <Elysian> ...
[02 Jan/06:35] <limeman> I got some paration problems anybody want to help
[02 Jan/06:35] <Elysian> so reboot, like completely power off
[02 Jan/06:35] <limeman> I have the print out of what is wrong
[02 Jan/06:35] <CJ^> whats the problem...
[02 Jan/06:35] <Elysian> and hold end when you turn the power on
[02 Jan/06:36] <FultarX> end for del?
[02 Jan/06:36] <Elysian> the end beside delete... yes... you hold it until it brings you into the new bios last i checked
[02 Jan/06:36] <FultarX> end or del
[02 Jan/06:36] <Elysian> i actually tried to do this last night
[02 Jan/06:36] <limeman> I will fold the channel
[02 Jan/06:36] <limeman> err I mean flood the channel
[02 Jan/06:36] <CJ^> dont msg
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[02 Jan/06:37] <CJ^> just tell us what the problem is
[02 Jan/06:37] <w98> i guess the problem is still there
[02 Jan/06:37] <Elysian> hehe
[02 Jan/06:37] <CJ^> strike two
[02 Jan/06:37] <CJ^> dont msg
[02 Jan/06:37] <Elysian> fultar: hold end
[02 Jan/06:37] <Elysian> i gotsa go
[02 Jan/06:37] <CJ^> strike three
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[02 Jan/06:37] <FultarX> ahh I get it
[02 Jan/06:37] <FultarX> thatnk
[02 Jan/06:37] <CJ^> dont msg lineman
[02 Jan/06:38] <limeman> sorry
[02 Jan/06:38] <limeman> well I didn't want to flood the channel
[02 Jan/06:38] <limeman> the problem is this...
[02 Jan/06:38] <CJ^> just ask the questions
[02 Jan/06:38] <CJ^> if we can help we will..
[02 Jan/06:38] <limeman> my paration table is messed up
[02 Jan/06:38] <limeman> I trying to fix my paration with paration magic 4
[02 Jan/06:38] <CJ^> ok.. 
[02 Jan/06:38] <limeman> but it won't open due to paration table errors
[02 Jan/06:38] <CJ^> well how did it get messed up in the first place?
[02 Jan/06:38] <limeman> good question..
[02 Jan/06:39] <limeman> probably the damn utitlty that came with my new hd
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[02 Jan/06:39] <CJ^> the overlay?
[02 Jan/06:39] <limeman> I did a drive to drive copy..
[02 Jan/06:39] <CJ^> big mistake
[02 Jan/06:39] <limeman> and I think it copied my non-dos parations to
[02 Jan/06:39] <limeman> why is it a big mistake?
[02 Jan/06:39] <CJ^> well  what utility did you use?
[02 Jan/06:40] <Smoothas> Could any of you help me with a win98 Themes prob pls?
[02 Jan/06:40] <CJ^> ask
[02 Jan/06:40] <limeman> the maxtor utitly that came with my new hd
[02 Jan/06:40] <limeman> it simple copy the contents of one drive to the other
[02 Jan/06:41] <CJ^> well...  thats the mistake
[02 Jan/06:41] <CJ^> those apps are crap...
[02 Jan/06:41] <limeman> what do you mean
[02 Jan/06:41] <CJ^> make a lot of trouble for ppl..
[02 Jan/06:41] <limeman> no they aren't
[02 Jan/06:41] <limeman> works fine
[02 Jan/06:41] <limeman> I am using my apps right now
[02 Jan/06:41] <CJ^> oh  so the drive works perfectly..
[02 Jan/06:42] <limeman> appears to be so far
[02 Jan/06:42] <limeman> but I still have messed up paration table
[02 Jan/06:42] <CJ^> then  you have no problem then
[02 Jan/06:42] <limeman> well not really
[02 Jan/06:42] <Smoothas> Sound on my Machine works fine. Mpegs, Mp3, mov etc all fine. When I load a Theme, scr, ico etc all get replace, so do the sound BUT no sound played. When I try an run the WAV files, I get told that the Files are corrupted or I need to load compression (which is loaded).
[02 Jan/06:42] <limeman> windows says I only have 19gig on my new 20gig drive
[02 Jan/06:42] <CJ^> lineman  thast normal..
[02 Jan/06:43] <CJ^> the file system take up some space ya know..
[02 Jan/06:43] <limeman> no it is saying 19gig total for hd space
[02 Jan/06:43] <CJ^> a 20 gig wil get partitoned and formatted to 19.2 gigs or so
[02 Jan/06:43] <CJ^> FAT32
[02 Jan/06:44] <limeman> true true
[02 Jan/06:44] <limeman> but I am getting this error from paration magic
[02 Jan/06:44] <limeman> Info: Begin C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
[02 Jan/06:44] <limeman> Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
[02 Jan/06:44] <limeman>   Actual values are:
[02 Jan/06:44] <limeman>       0  0  80     0    1    1  0C   9913    7   63        63  39969657
[02 Jan/06:44] <limeman> Error #108: Partition didn't end on cylinder boundary.
[02 Jan/06:44] <limeman>   ucEndHead expected to be 63, not 7.
[02 Jan/06:44] <CJ^> lime.. did you partiton and format the drive before doign the copy?
[02 Jan/06:44] <limeman> not sure I think it did it all on it's own
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[02 Jan/06:45] <CJ^> crap utiluity
[02 Jan/06:45] <CJ^> thas why most ppl have issues with em...
[02 Jan/06:45] <CJ^> start from scratch again
[02 Jan/06:45] <limeman> o well I just start from scratch
[02 Jan/06:45] <CJ^> partiton and format the drive...
[02 Jan/06:45] <limeman> I going use fdisk
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[02 Jan/07:31] <tranced> what is the keyboard command to start up in safe mode in win98?
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[02 Jan/07:43] <`Remy> anybody know how to fix the interrupt that has been routed incorrectly by the system?
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[02 Jan/08:08] <whatUwant> hi
[02 Jan/08:08] <w98> hello, whatUwant
[02 Jan/08:08] <whatUwant> can U help me, please?
[02 Jan/08:09] <whatUwant> i have a problem with a cd-player
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[02 Jan/08:15] <Tara> how can i make it so my e-mail comes automaticly when i will read it while i am on the net
[02 Jan/08:16] <Tara> help me
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[02 Jan/08:29] <mr407> anyone use free agent?
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[02 Jan/08:40] <pyrokiwi> ok my friend was using my pc and now whenever i try to check my mailcity account i autolog into his
[02 Jan/08:40] <pyrokiwi> lol
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[02 Jan/09:12] <NPN> Does anyone know about modem commands?
[02 Jan/09:12] <pyrokiwi> sorta  y?
[02 Jan/09:13] <NPN> pyrokiwi: How would I get my modem to hang up using +++ATH0 and redial another number ATDTwhatever all in one line?
[02 Jan/09:14] <pyrokiwi> dunno sorry
[02 Jan/09:14] <NPN> k tnx
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[02 Jan/09:14] <Azmodan> do not answer him ever
[02 Jan/09:14] <Azmodan> I know exactly what he wants to do
[02 Jan/09:15] <pyrokiwi> ok then
[02 Jan/09:15] <pyrokiwi> wat?
[02 Jan/09:15] <pyrokiwi> bluebox tech?
[02 Jan/09:15] <Azmodan> modems in windows computers can have commands forced on them inside ping packets
[02 Jan/09:16] <Azmodan> e.g. hangup and make long distance calls
[02 Jan/09:16] <Azmodan> that person was out to cause some viscious phone bills for people
[02 Jan/09:17] <pyrokiwi> yeh also called bluebox technology
[02 Jan/09:17] <Azmodan> no
[02 Jan/09:17] <Azmodan> not really
[02 Jan/09:17] <Azmodan> thats for payphones
[02 Jan/09:17] <Azmodan> they cannot use the calls they make this way
[02 Jan/09:17] <pyrokiwi> well i have heard that used 4 something very similar
[02 Jan/09:17] <Azmodan> they just generate bills for an unsuspecting person
[02 Jan/09:18] <Azmodan> -say
[02 Jan/09:18] <Azmodan> -ban *!*npm@*.unixbox.com
[02 Jan/09:18] @ mode #win98 [+b *!*npm@*.unixbox.com] by LifeBlood!azmodan@phi.compinet.com
[02 Jan/09:18] <Azmodan> -ban *!*npn@*.unixbox.com
[02 Jan/09:18] @ mode #win98 [+b *!*npn@*.unixbox.com] by LifeBlood!azmodan@phi.compinet.com
[02 Jan/09:18] <Azmodan> -op
[02 Jan/09:18] @ mode #win98 [+o Azmodan] by LifeBlood!azmodan@phi.compinet.com
[02 Jan/09:18] @ mode #win98 [-b *!*npm@*.unixbox.com] by Azmodan!~azmodan@p93-tnt1.akl.ihug.co.nz
[02 Jan/09:18] <Azmodan> -down
[02 Jan/09:18] @ mode #win98 [-o Azmodan] by LifeBlood!azmodan@phi.compinet.com
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[02 Jan/09:24] <Azmodan> aroha cat
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[02 Jan/09:25] <Azmodan> hi cj
[02 Jan/09:25] <pyrokiwi> yo CJ^
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[02 Jan/10:32] <Meatman31> hello all
[02 Jan/10:32] <Meatman31> whats up today
[02 Jan/10:33] <CJ^> nadda
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[02 Jan/10:59] <Vampyl> can someone give me a hand??
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[02 Jan/11:00] <CJ^> with what?
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[02 Jan/11:00] <CJ^> guess nothign then
[02 Jan/11:01] <ebahnx> can someone help me with a Win98 prob?
[02 Jan/11:01] <CJ^> ask yer question...
[02 Jan/11:01] <CJ^> `op
[02 Jan/11:01] @ mode #win98 [+o CJ^] by Proteus!itsnotme@0wned.the.US-GOVT.org
[02 Jan/11:01] <ebahnx> Every time I try to shut down, I get an error message saying that there is a problem with my taskmon.exe.  How do i fix this?
[02 Jan/11:01] <CJ^> run SFC
[02 Jan/11:01] <CJ^> see if its corrupted..
[02 Jan/11:02] <ebahnx> SFC?
[02 Jan/11:02] <w98> SFC is probably system file checker
[02 Jan/11:02] <ebahnx> yeah, I've done that already, but everything seemed fine.
[02 Jan/11:03] <CJ^> ok
[02 Jan/11:03] <CJ^> when did it all start?
[02 Jan/11:03] <ebahnx> I'd say a few months ago
[02 Jan/11:04] <CJ^> ok...
[02 Jan/11:04] <CJ^> and is this a home built system?
[02 Jan/11:04] <ebahnx> Windows runs okay, but every time I shut down, this message shows up
[02 Jan/11:04] <CJ^> or store bought?  like a compaq or HP?
[02 Jan/11:04] <ebahnx> Gateway
[02 Jan/11:04] <CJ^> have you called them?
[02 Jan/11:04] <ebahnx> store bought...
[02 Jan/11:05] <ebahnx> not yet
[02 Jan/11:05] <CJ^> well do so...
[02 Jan/11:05] <CJ^> they installed windows on that system
[02 Jan/11:05] <ebahnx> actually, I installed Win98
[02 Jan/11:05] <ebahnx> It came with win95
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[02 Jan/11:06] <{KoRn_12}> c tu de laide ici
[02 Jan/11:06] <CJ^> ok...
[02 Jan/11:06] <CJ^> well if sfc isnt finding anything..
[02 Jan/11:06] <CJ^> think back to when it started..
[02 Jan/11:06] <{KoRn_12}> english 
[02 Jan/11:06] <CJ^> what have you installed?
[02 Jan/11:07] <{KoRn_12}> i speak french
[02 Jan/11:07] <ebahnx> Maybe I'm not thinking of the same system checker, where do I find SFC?
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[02 Jan/11:07] <CJ^> start>run>sfc
[02 Jan/11:07] <CJ^> obviously
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[02 Jan/11:08] <ebahnx> yeah thats it
[02 Jan/11:08] <ebahnx> hm...
[02 Jan/11:09] <CJ^> ok
[02 Jan/11:09] <CJ^> check in msconfig
[02 Jan/11:09] <CJ^> see if there is osmehting loading that is causing it on shutdown...
[02 Jan/11:09] <CJ^> er somehting...
[02 Jan/11:09] <ebahnx> ok...
[02 Jan/11:10] <ebahnx> thanks for your help, I'm going to try something now...
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[02 Jan/11:10] <CJ^> np
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[02 Jan/11:19] <ebahnx> hi again
[02 Jan/11:19] <ebahnx> I copied the error message that I get whenever I shut down...
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[02 Jan/11:19] <ebahnx> "TASKMON caused an invalid page fault in module KERNEL32.DLL at 0177.bff711be"
[02 Jan/11:20] <Poney> help I need help with &th Guest the game 
[02 Jan/11:20] <Poney> can anyone help me?
[02 Jan/11:20] <ebahnx> anyone know what that means?
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[02 Jan/11:21] <ebahnx> hello?
[02 Jan/11:22] <CJ^> Poney  we deal win 98  not the games or apps really
[02 Jan/11:22] <CJ^> check the games website for info and help
[02 Jan/11:22] <CJ^> eb  still same issue...
[02 Jan/11:25] <ebahnx> should I disable the taskmon in my msconfig?
[02 Jan/11:25] <CJ^> try it
[02 Jan/11:25] <CJ^> but i would also try extracting a new taskmon.exe with SFC
[02 Jan/11:25] <CJ^> see if that helps as well...
[02 Jan/11:25] <ebahnx> I did that, but I'll try again.  Thanks!
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[02 Jan/11:30] <TheShado> Is it possible to run a program that searches the registry for directories/programs that no longer exist and fixes it?
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[02 Jan/11:47] <NuKe`> My shortcut arrows on my icons dissapeared, how do i get them back ?
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[02 Jan/11:48] <CJ^> did you use tweakui?
[02 Jan/11:48] <NuKe`> yes but it did not work
[02 Jan/11:48] <CJ^> are you running 98 or 98se?
[02 Jan/11:48] <NuKe`> 98se
[02 Jan/11:49] <CJ^> thats teh problme
[02 Jan/11:49] <CJ^> tweakui for 98 is NOT to be used with 98se
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[02 Jan/11:50] <CJ^> remove tweakui
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[02 Jan/11:51] <NuKe^> argh d/c
[02 Jan/11:51] <CJ^> nuke  tweakui is the problem...
[02 Jan/11:51] <NuKe^> ok, how do i get them back then CJ^
[02 Jan/11:51] <CJ^> 98 tweakui is NOT to be used with 98 se
[02 Jan/11:51] <NuKe^> i removed it
[02 Jan/11:52] <NuKe^> yes
[02 Jan/11:52] <NuKe^> but
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[02 Jan/11:52] <NuKe^> how i fix then
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[02 Jan/11:52] <CJ^> well are all the arrows on the shortcuts gone?  but do they work?
[02 Jan/11:53] <NuKe`> they work
[02 Jan/11:53] <CJ^> ok  what happens if ya try to create a new shortcut?
[02 Jan/11:53] <NuKe`> hold on
[02 Jan/11:54] <NuKe`> looks the same as the rest
[02 Jan/11:54] <NuKe`> no arrow
[02 Jan/11:54] <CJ^> well tweakui dida number on ya...:P
[02 Jan/11:55] <NuKe`> yes
[02 Jan/11:55] <NuKe`> but, there must be a way in the regedit to fix it
[02 Jan/11:55] <NuKe`> since that is all tweakui does
[02 Jan/11:55] <CJ^> no
[02 Jan/11:55] <NuKe`> only simple like
[02 Jan/11:55] <NuKe`> no
[02 Jan/11:55] <NuKe`> ok
[02 Jan/11:55] <CJ^> tweakui does more than that when used on the right system
[02 Jan/11:56] <CJ^> well lemme see if i can find a site that has an answer to this....
[02 Jan/11:56] <CJ^> :P
[02 Jan/11:56] <NuKe`> cool
[02 Jan/11:56] <NuKe`> thanks
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[02 Jan/11:58] <CJ^> now
[02 Jan/11:58] <CJ^> hmm..
[02 Jan/11:58] <daygo> when i get connected my system locks after 10 min are so what can i do to corect this problem i get a blue screen that to busy
[02 Jan/11:59] <CJ^> nuke  try installign the reskit off the 98se cd
[02 Jan/11:59] <CJ^> it may help
[02 Jan/11:59] <NuKe`> ok
[02 Jan/12:00] <daygo> how do i find that
[02 Jan/12:01] <CJ^> not you daygo
[02 Jan/12:01] <CJ^> daygo
[02 Jan/12:01] <CJ^> try new modem drivers...
[02 Jan/12:01] <CJ^> see if that helps first...
[02 Jan/12:01] <daygo> yes
[02 Jan/12:03] <daygo> thanks
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[02 Jan/12:03] <NuKe`> ok installed reskit, but what do i do in it
[02 Jan/12:04] <CJ^> grrrr.
[02 Jan/12:04] <CJ^> now  according to MS's website...
[02 Jan/12:04] <CJ^> they say on one site that tweakui is nto supposed to be installed on 98se..
[02 Jan/12:04] <CJ^> BUT  another site says thats its ok to do so to fix this issue...
[02 Jan/12:05] <CJ^> really nice...
[02 Jan/12:05] <NuKe`> hmm
[02 Jan/12:05] <CJ^> yeah...
[02 Jan/12:05] <NuKe`> heh
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[02 Jan/12:06] <]F0o[2000> Hi
[02 Jan/12:06] <CJ^> but  of course  they only mean to fix small issues like this one...
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[02 Jan/12:06] <CJ^> `op
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[02 Jan/12:06] <NuKe`> then it should be working eh
[02 Jan/12:06] <NuKe`> and its not
[02 Jan/12:06] <CJ^> shoudl be...
[02 Jan/12:06] <NuKe`> hmm
[02 Jan/12:07] <NuKe`> should i reinstall tweak and try again
[02 Jan/12:07] <F0o> hay, this is a bit of  a lame question, but, is there a way to fix broken zip files ?
[02 Jan/12:07] <CJ^> To be sure that Tweakui is not just masking an entry, go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall and look for applications that are not supposed to be there. If they are there, trash them. Oh, of course 
[02 Jan/12:07] <Azmodan> pkzipfix
[02 Jan/12:07] [F0o> Azmodan: ;)
[02 Jan/12:07] <Azmodan> www.pkware.com
[02 Jan/12:07] <CJ^> hmmmm
[02 Jan/12:07] <CJ^> nope
[02 Jan/12:07] <CJ^> wrong CP there...
[02 Jan/12:08] <NuKe`> ok
[02 Jan/12:08] [F0o> Azmodan: cheers dude
[02 Jan/12:08] <Azmodan> np
[02 Jan/12:08] <NuKe`> so huh
[02 Jan/12:08] <CJ^> yeah
[02 Jan/12:08] <CJ^> hmm
[02 Jan/12:08] <CJ^> re-install and try
[02 Jan/12:08] <CJ^> i dont know IF it will work..
[02 Jan/12:09] <CJ^> but  who knows...
[02 Jan/12:09] <NuKe`> yeh who knows
[02 Jan/12:09] <CJ^> just a slap to get contradicted by the source  twice...
[02 Jan/12:09] <NuKe`> prolly will work cuz windows is retarded like that
[02 Jan/12:09] <CJ^> its nto the only OS that has quirks
[02 Jan/12:11] <NuKe`> heh besides the shortcut arrows ive just noticed that the hand it places under shared folders is like, just fingers, not the whole hand
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[02 Jan/12:19] <NuKe`> hmm
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[02 Jan/12:22] <CJ^> `op
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[02 Jan/12:24] <deek44> hello all
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[02 Jan/12:27] <Azmodan> hi deek
[02 Jan/12:27] <deek44> i've got problems
[02 Jan/12:27] <Azmodan> what with?
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[02 Jan/12:27] <deek44> installin 98 - stupid 98
[02 Jan/12:27] <deek44> erg
[02 Jan/12:27] <deek44> :((
[02 Jan/12:28] <deek44> i run the setup, and it gets as far as scanning the system regestry, then locks up, i'm begining to think its my cdrom
[02 Jan/12:28] <Azmodan> the disk
[02 Jan/12:29] <Azmodan> the drive I mean
[02 Jan/12:29] <Azmodan> you asked about this yesterday did you not?
[02 Jan/12:29] <deek44> ya the drive
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[02 Jan/12:29] <deek44> yep
[02 Jan/12:29] <Azmodan> did you try cleaning the laser head?
[02 Jan/12:29] <deek44> was here yesterday to
[02 Jan/12:29] <deek44> nope
[02 Jan/12:30] <Azmodan> I really do suggest you try that
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[02 Jan/12:31] <deek44> k, i also tried bootin of the cd, but it gave me all these errors about no command.com and stuff
[02 Jan/12:33] <Azmodan> yeah, clean the drive and see what happens
[02 Jan/12:33] <Azmodan> better to spend 10 on the drive clean than 60 on a new drive
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[02 Jan/12:33] <deek44> yup
[02 Jan/12:34] <deek44> well i'm off to but a cdcleaner, hopefully someone is open   :)
[02 Jan/12:34] <Azmodan> okies
[02 Jan/12:34] <Azmodan> let us know how yo ugo
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[02 Jan/12:34] <pyrokiwi> hiya all
[02 Jan/12:34] <Azmodan> allo pyro
[02 Jan/12:34] <pyrokiwi> im back :)
[02 Jan/12:35] <pyrokiwi> i just bough 1.5kg of chocolate
[02 Jan/12:35] <Azmodan> he
[02 Jan/12:35] <Azmodan> hehe
[02 Jan/12:35] <Azmodan> knock yerself out
[02 Jan/12:35] <pyrokiwi> $5 kiwi
[02 Jan/12:35] <pyrokiwi> yep it was on special so i thought hey y not
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[02 Jan/12:36] <pyrokiwi> yo artman
[02 Jan/12:36] <artman> hi pyro
[02 Jan/12:37] ! artman is known as art_1900
[02 Jan/12:37] <pyrokiwi> i been out with my dad all morning he was in a good mood i come home and my bro/sis put him in a bad mood within 5minutes
[02 Jan/12:38] <art_1900> that happens
[02 Jan/12:38] <Azmodan> take him out again
[02 Jan/12:38] <pyrokiwi> trust my bro and sis
[02 Jan/12:38] <pyrokiwi> lol
[02 Jan/12:38] <pyrokiwi> hmmm
[02 Jan/12:38] <Azmodan> take him fishing
[02 Jan/12:38] <Azmodan> dad's love that
[02 Jan/12:38] <pyrokiwi> lol if only i could
[02 Jan/12:39] <pyrokiwi> a-im 14 b-where to go c-he would be taking me cause i am only 14 :(
[02 Jan/12:39] <Azmodan> hey, its the thought that counts
[02 Jan/12:39] <pyrokiwi> lol true
[02 Jan/12:39] <pyrokiwi> sad no email 4 me yet
[02 Jan/12:40] <Azmodan> just the offer should cheer him up
[02 Jan/12:40] <Azmodan> hehehehe
[02 Jan/12:40] <art_1900> expecting email from girlfriend, pyro?
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[02 Jan/12:40] <pyrokiwi> hmmmmm maybe not so much gf but from a girl anyway
[02 Jan/12:40] <art_1900> lol
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[02 Jan/12:40] <pyrokiwi> at end of newyears party she said shed email me
[02 Jan/12:41] <art_1900> they always say that, pyro
[02 Jan/12:41] <pyrokiwi> nah she wasnt drunk and i think she actually will
[02 Jan/12:41] <art_1900> good luck
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[02 Jan/12:41] <pyrokiwi> lol thanx
[02 Jan/12:41] <art_1900> I gotta go......bye all.........BBL
[02 Jan/12:41] <pyrokiwi> syas
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[02 Jan/12:42] <Azmodan> ciao
[02 Jan/12:42] <pyrokiwi> hmmm i hate spammers
[02 Jan/12:43] <pyrokiwi> esp when they change their sending address
[02 Jan/12:43] <Azmodan> thats what /whowas is for
[02 Jan/12:43] <pyrokiwi> no as in email
[02 Jan/12:43] <Azmodan> ahhh
[02 Jan/12:44] <mrgone> ok
[02 Jan/12:44] <mrgone> there are 20 mins left on my vid card. 2 high bidders for 10 vid cards, im the higest bidder
[02 Jan/12:44] <pyrokiwi> lol
[02 Jan/12:44] <mrgone> i may win this time
[02 Jan/12:44] <pyrokiwi> is that a first?
[02 Jan/12:45] <mrgone> nope
[02 Jan/12:45] <mrgone> ive been trying to get this smae vid card for 4 days
[02 Jan/12:45] <mrgone> this is the third attempt
[02 Jan/12:45] <ThAmsTeR> i bought a HP cd-writer plus. it turn out to be unfunction. when i got back my comp. from rep. they had taken my AOpen 36x and swaped it with a Creative 48x. al from the beginning the 48x hasn't been working right so i dont know what to do.. should i demand my 36x back or what???
[02 Jan/12:45] <pyrokiwi> hmm when i brought pc at an auction i bot logitech mouse 4 free mouse new is worth 60kiwi
[02 Jan/12:46] <mrgone> ThAmsTeR send the 48x back and ask for a new 48x
[02 Jan/12:46] <pyrokiwi> yep demand they fix the 40x or give 36x back
[02 Jan/12:46] <mrgone> your cd writer got replaced too?
[02 Jan/12:46] <ThAmsTeR> yep.
[02 Jan/12:46] <mrgone> k send the 48x back and ask for a new 48x, its their fault if they want to upgrade your computer for free :)
[02 Jan/12:47] <pyrokiwi> lol yeh
[02 Jan/12:47] <ThAmsTeR> they said that the cd-writed couldn't work together with the 36x.
[02 Jan/12:47] <mrgone> oh?
[02 Jan/12:47] <pyrokiwi> how come my shop doesnt do that
[02 Jan/12:47] <ThAmsTeR> pyrokiwi: hehe....
[02 Jan/12:48] <ThAmsTeR> i thaught i made a good deal, but i really wasn't..
[02 Jan/12:48] <pyrokiwi> demand they fix 4 free
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[02 Jan/12:48] <ThAmsTeR> you mean that i should demand a my 36x or a brand new 48x.
[02 Jan/12:49] <mrgone> 15 mins left. no sign of being outbid.....
[02 Jan/12:49] <mrgone> a brand new 48x.
[02 Jan/12:49] <ThAmsTeR> i aggree..
[02 Jan/12:49] <mrgone> the 48x doesnt read cd's is that the problem?
[02 Jan/12:49] <pyrokiwi> go do it then
[02 Jan/12:49] <mrgone> why get a cdrom that they say wont work for you anyway
[02 Jan/12:49] <mrgone> even thought i dont believe it
[02 Jan/12:49] <mrgone> though
[02 Jan/12:50] <ThAmsTeR> mrgone: it makes weird noises when it reads..and it doesn't want to read all kaind of Cd's.
[02 Jan/12:50] <mrgone> hmm
[02 Jan/12:50] <mrgone> thats not good
[02 Jan/12:50] <ThAmsTeR> i know.
[02 Jan/12:50] <mrgone> yep throw it through their window with a note
[02 Jan/12:50] <pyrokiwi> lol
[02 Jan/12:50] <ThAmsTeR> haha
[02 Jan/12:51] <ThAmsTeR> that wont work..(police) hehe
[02 Jan/12:51] <pyrokiwi> preferably make it break a lot of their expensive eqipment
[02 Jan/12:51] <mrgone> hehe like through the window, knocking a bigscreen tv on the manager?
[02 Jan/12:51] <ThAmsTeR> but how can a cd writer not work with my brand new 36x?? and why give me a 48x?
[02 Jan/12:52] <mrgone> i dont know
[02 Jan/12:52] <mrgone> cdrw should work with any cdrom
[02 Jan/12:53] <ThAmsTeR> that's what i thougt too.
[02 Jan/12:53] <pyrokiwi> unless they gave u scsi as well but i dont think u r that lucky
[02 Jan/12:53] <ThAmsTeR> they said that they only swapped my cd-rom, but they gave me a new cd writer too.. 
[02 Jan/12:54] <mrgone> heh
[02 Jan/12:54] <ThAmsTeR> pyrokiwi: IDE. cd-rom.
[02 Jan/12:55] <pyrokiwi> thats ok ur not that lucky 
[02 Jan/12:55] <mrgone> 10mins
[02 Jan/12:55] <pyrokiwi> hmmm where is this site i wanna outbid ya
[02 Jan/12:55] <pyrokiwi> only prob i wont hav enough $$$
[02 Jan/12:55] <pyrokiwi> and i prob dont want vcards
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[02 Jan/12:56] <pyrokiwi> hey reebok
[02 Jan/12:56] <reebok> hey
[02 Jan/12:56] <reebok> anyone on se?
[02 Jan/12:57] <ThAmsTeR> reebok!
[02 Jan/12:57] <reebok> hey tham
[02 Jan/12:57] <Azmodan> hi ree
[02 Jan/12:58] <reebok> hey az
[02 Jan/12:58] + Azmodan came back
[02 Jan/12:58] <reebok> cool
[02 Jan/12:58] <reebok> I found some people who have heard of unixdos, but no one who ran it in non shareware mode
[02 Jan/12:58] <pyrokiwi> unixdos ?
[02 Jan/12:58] <reebok> is no one running se?
[02 Jan/12:59] <reebok> www.unixdos.com
[02 Jan/12:59] <reebok> I was talking to az in case that was confusing
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[02 Jan/12:59] <Azmodan> hehehe
[02 Jan/12:59] <Azmodan> thx ree
[02 Jan/12:59] <|mrgone|> 5mins
[02 Jan/12:59] <reebok> hehe
[02 Jan/12:59] <reebok> hey mrgone
[02 Jan/12:59] <reebok> are you on se?
[02 Jan/12:59] <pyrokiwi> lol
[02 Jan/12:59] <ThAmsTeR> se = secon ed.?
[02 Jan/12:59] <reebok> yeah
[02 Jan/13:00] <pyrokiwi> |mrgone| this is the sorta time that y2k ill come in then crash the auctions server
[02 Jan/13:00] <ThAmsTeR> i got it, but i don't run it.
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[02 Jan/13:00] <reebok> ok
[02 Jan/13:00] <reebok> I need to run
[02 Jan/13:00] <reebok> later all
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[02 Jan/13:00] ! |mrgone| is known as mrgone
[02 Jan/13:00] <ThAmsTeR> i caused a lot af crashes on my comp.
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[02 Jan/13:02] <pyrokiwi> lol
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[02 Jan/13:02] <pyrokiwi> ThAmsTeR followed me to another channel and oreo from that channel came here
[02 Jan/13:03] <pyrokiwi> lol i just found the funniest thing in my pocket
[02 Jan/13:03] <ThAmsTeR> what?
[02 Jan/13:03] <pyrokiwi> a hard disk not the drive an actual disk i pulled outa one
[02 Jan/13:03] <ThAmsTeR> hmm...
[02 Jan/13:04] <mrgone> 1 min
[02 Jan/13:04] <pyrokiwi> i just pulled it outa my pocket
[02 Jan/13:04] <pyrokiwi> it works well as a flying disc
[02 Jan/13:04] <ThAmsTeR> frisbee
[02 Jan/13:04] <pyrokiwi> yeh
[02 Jan/13:05] <ThAmsTeR> so where in the world r u guys located?
[02 Jan/13:05] <mrgone> ahh
[02 Jan/13:05] <mrgone> feels pretty good. finnaly got my tnt2
[02 Jan/13:05] <pyrokiwi> lol lucky u
[02 Jan/13:05] <ThAmsTeR> ultra?
[02 Jan/13:05] <pyrokiwi> thats when the other guy puts in a last minute bid and u dont see it cause a lag
[02 Jan/13:05] <mrgone> no just atnt2
[02 Jan/13:06] <pyrokiwi> how much?
[02 Jan/13:06] <ThAmsTeR> k
[02 Jan/13:06] <mrgone> i got outbid by 10 seconds on thursday
[02 Jan/13:06] <pyrokiwi> lol poor u
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[02 Jan/13:06] <pyrokiwi> but did ya get a better buy today?
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[02 Jan/13:06] <mrgone> nope
[02 Jan/13:06] <pyrokiwi> sad
[02 Jan/13:06] <ThAmsTeR> where is the auction?
[02 Jan/13:07] <mrgone> the other one was for 76$ this one was 84$
[02 Jan/13:07] <mrgone> ebay
[02 Jan/13:07] <pyrokiwi> hmm i woulda waited
[02 Jan/13:07] <pyrokiwi> us / ?
[02 Jan/13:07] <mrgone> yea
[02 Jan/13:07] <mrgone> im in canada where those cards are 200$+ so i gotta sneak it over here
[02 Jan/13:08] <pyrokiwi> lol i see
[02 Jan/13:08] <pyrokiwi> just get los or some1 to courier it
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[02 Jan/13:09] <mrgone> nah thatd take too long and cost more
[02 Jan/13:09] <pyrokiwi> take to long?
[02 Jan/13:09] <pyrokiwi> where in us is it?
[02 Jan/13:09] <mrgone> california
[02 Jan/13:09] <pyrokiwi> i am used to nz where postal is guarenteed next day anywhere in nz for normal post
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[02 Jan/13:09] <mrgone> whoa
[02 Jan/13:10] <pyrokiwi> nz is small :)
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[02 Jan/13:10] <pyrokiwi> 40cents kiwi for a normal letter anywhere in nz
[02 Jan/13:10] <ThAmsTeR> how long does eBay use to send me a harddrive....(i'm in norway)?
[02 Jan/13:11] <mrgone> oh
[02 Jan/13:11] <pyrokiwi> lol
[02 Jan/13:11] <pyrokiwi> i never use ebay cause im in nz
[02 Jan/13:11] <mrgone> ThAmsTeR dont bother, itd cost way too much, and take way too long, better off to find a local auction site
[02 Jan/13:11] <ThAmsTeR> new zealand?
[02 Jan/13:11] <w98> it has been said that new zealand is a wonderfull country
[02 Jan/13:11] <mrgone> most people wont ship overseas or even to canada for that matter
[02 Jan/13:12] <pyrokiwi> yeh i like nz
[02 Jan/13:12] <pyrokiwi> (new zealand)
[02 Jan/13:12] <ThAmsTeR> mrgone: yeah. but in norway hardware costs 50% more..
[02 Jan/13:12] <pyrokiwi> bit expensive 4 some stuff but kewl
[02 Jan/13:12] <mrgone> oh
[02 Jan/13:12] <pyrokiwi> same problem here pc stuff costs $$$
[02 Jan/13:12] <mrgone> ThAmsTeR they may charge you the extra at customs
[02 Jan/13:13] <ThAmsTeR> singapore is cheap.
[02 Jan/13:13] <mrgone> ive been charged 104$ extra for my cd burner
[02 Jan/13:13] <ThAmsTeR> wow.
[02 Jan/13:13] <ThAmsTeR> that's a lot of money...(if u don't have 'em)
[02 Jan/13:13] <mrgone> yeah
[02 Jan/13:14] <ThAmsTeR> what cd burner did u buy?
[02 Jan/13:14] <ThAmsTeR> mrgone: u r in canada?
[02 Jan/13:14] <mrgone> yep
[02 Jan/13:14] <ThAmsTeR> k
[02 Jan/13:14] <mrgone> i have 2 ricoh's
[02 Jan/13:14] <mrgone> a 2x2x6x and a 4x4x20x
[02 Jan/13:14] <ThAmsTeR> k
[02 Jan/13:14] <ThAmsTeR> scsi?
[02 Jan/13:14] <w98> somebody said scsi was (Small Computer Standard Interface) A standard data pathway used mostly for hard drives and CD-ROM drives, but also a common interface for scanners and sometimes printers. Currently the fastest (and the most flexible) method of interfacing with hard drives. It comes in two major varieties: SCSI-2 or WIDE SCSI. Both can now be Ultra, which doubles the speed.
[02 Jan/13:14] <mrgone> the 4x4x20 died 4 weeks ago, the 2x2x6x died yesterday
[02 Jan/13:14] <mrgone> ide
[02 Jan/13:15] <pyrokiwi> hmmm
[02 Jan/13:15] <ThAmsTeR> said story..
[02 Jan/13:15] <pyrokiwi> cant u get ultra wide scsi 2?
[02 Jan/13:15] <pyrokiwi> i thought id seen it some where
[02 Jan/13:16] <ThAmsTeR> scsi r much more expensive..
[02 Jan/13:16] <mrgone> yup
[02 Jan/13:16] <pyrokiwi> but much faster
[02 Jan/13:17] <ThAmsTeR> it is, but price does count these days....(in norway anyway)
[02 Jan/13:18] <mrgone> ram sucks
[02 Jan/13:18] <pyrokiwi> ram sux in nz too
[02 Jan/13:18] <mrgone> 128mb ram is 130$ u.s
[02 Jan/13:18] <pyrokiwi> hey y is the pic on my moniter shaking? just a bit
[02 Jan/13:19] <pyrokiwi> hehe my pc failed my y2k test even though it works now
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[02 Jan/13:19] <ThAmsTeR> 128ram costs about 230 in norway
[02 Jan/13:20] <ThAmsTeR> hehe
[02 Jan/13:20] <mrgone> 128mb ram in canada is 241
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[02 Jan/13:20] <pyrokiwi> 32 costs bout 100 us in nz
[02 Jan/13:20] <ThAmsTeR> 32 in norway costs 130
[02 Jan/13:20] <pyrokiwi> i set my bios to 2750 and pc didnt work properly
[02 Jan/13:21] <pyrokiwi> hmm that is cheap price in nz
[02 Jan/13:21] <pyrokiwi> i saw it 4 more like 130 as well
[02 Jan/13:21] <mrgone> whats canada -nz exchange?
[02 Jan/13:21] <pyrokiwi> dunno
[02 Jan/13:22] <ThAmsTeR> why is ram so expensive?
[02 Jan/13:22] <pyrokiwi> i am talking as in kiwi dollar = 50cents us
[02 Jan/13:22] <pyrokiwi> and talking us $
[02 Jan/13:22] <mrgone> whoa
[02 Jan/13:22] <mrgone> thats cheap
[02 Jan/13:22] <pyrokiwi> actually kiwi is worth slightly more then that but is easier to do that way
[02 Jan/13:22] <mrgone> canada $ is 67 cents u.s
[02 Jan/13:23] <pyrokiwi> yeh
[02 Jan/13:23] <pyrokiwi> im not sure kiwi
[02 Jan/13:23] <mrgone> so 32 = 50$ u.s
[02 Jan/13:23] <pyrokiwi> i dont bother keeping eye cause i never buy any us anyway
[02 Jan/13:23] <ThAmsTeR> norwaigian kroner: 8 kroner = 1$
[02 Jan/13:23] <mrgone> 32 here = 69$ cnadain
[02 Jan/13:24] <pyrokiwi> i think ram is pretty similar all over
[02 Jan/13:24] <mrgone> math sucks, ther should be a universal worldwide $
[02 Jan/13:24] <ThAmsTeR> yup
[02 Jan/13:24] <ThAmsTeR> agree
[02 Jan/13:24] <pyrokiwi> yeh it would be better
[02 Jan/13:24] <ThAmsTeR> all countries got their own weird way of thinking.,...
[02 Jan/13:25] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm yeh
[02 Jan/13:25] <pyrokiwi> i used to like nz cause everything like choclate bar drink used to be a dollar
[02 Jan/13:25] <ThAmsTeR> hehe'
[02 Jan/13:26] <pyrokiwi> drink is still dollar but now choc 1.10
[02 Jan/13:26] <pyrokiwi> or more so its just another currancy
[02 Jan/13:26] <ThAmsTeR> how old r u?
[02 Jan/13:27] <pyrokiwi> 14
[02 Jan/13:27] <ThAmsTeR> mrgone?
[02 Jan/13:27] <pyrokiwi> gtg 4 now (food) syas
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[02 Jan/13:27] <pyrokiwi> bbl
[02 Jan/13:27] <RnDezZzzz> help help hlep 
[02 Jan/13:27] <mrgone> 17
[02 Jan/13:27] <ThAmsTeR> k
[02 Jan/13:27] <RnDezZzzz> anybody ? 
[02 Jan/13:27] <ThAmsTeR> i'm also 14
[02 Jan/13:27] <ThAmsTeR> whats the prob?
[02 Jan/13:27] <w98> it has been said that the prob is that it only writes to either CDRW's or to a CDR useing only easy cd
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[02 Jan/13:27] <RnDezZzzz> what's the difference bet SIM and DIM RAM 
[02 Jan/13:28] <ThAmsTeR> sim r faster i think.
[02 Jan/13:28] -RnDezZzzz- what's the difference bet SIM and DIM RAM
[02 Jan/13:28] <Azmodan> RnDezZzzz, please read the topic
[02 Jan/13:29] <RnDezZzzz> well k 
[02 Jan/13:29] <CJ^> SIMM or SDRAM is faster
[02 Jan/13:29] [RnDezZzzz> Azmodan 
[02 Jan/13:29] [w98> Azmodan is off sleeping
[02 Jan/13:29] <CJ^> and larger physically..
[02 Jan/13:29] <Azmodan> I am not sleeping
[02 Jan/13:29] <Azmodan> what is a simm
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[02 Jan/13:29] <w98> rumour has it a simm is (Single In-Line Memory Module) Those little memory cards we're used to putting into a computer as memory. It used to be that you needed eight or nine single chips to put into a computer to make a whole memory unit. Now a single card or two is what's needed
[02 Jan/13:29] <RnDezZzzz> what's the difference ? 
[02 Jan/13:29] <Azmodan> what is a dimm
[02 Jan/13:29] <w98> it has been said that a dimm is (Dual In-Line Memory Module) Very much like a SIMM except that they are larger and you need only one in place of two SIMMs. DIMMs are 64-bit memory devices, so you just need a single DIMM for a processer with a 64-bit memory path to work properly. DIMMs are becoming more and more popular.
[02 Jan/13:29] <Azmodan> there
[02 Jan/13:31] <RnDezZzzz> thanks 
[02 Jan/13:31] <Azmodan> np
[02 Jan/13:31] <ThAmsTeR> what's the fastest CPU: AMD or Pentium??
[02 Jan/13:32] <Azmodan> those are types of cpu
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[02 Jan/13:32] <RnDezZzzz> AMD stands for ? 
[02 Jan/13:32] <deek44> well... i 'm back with no lens cleaner.. noone in open
[02 Jan/13:32] <Azmodan> can you be more specific
[02 Jan/13:32] <Azmodan> AMD is American Micro Devices
[02 Jan/13:32] <RnDezZzzz> cool 
[02 Jan/13:33] <ThAmsTeR> the fastest?
[02 Jan/13:33] <RnDezZzzz> G4 ? 
[02 Jan/13:33] <deek44> hey  azmodan  can u dcc me one   ;)
[02 Jan/13:33] <Azmodan> lol
[02 Jan/13:33] <Azmodan> no files, hehehehehe
[02 Jan/13:34] <ThAmsTeR> fastest of AMD K6-2 or pentium II?
[02 Jan/13:34] <deek44> hehe, tommorow i will go BUY one then
[02 Jan/13:34] <Azmodan> ThAmsTeR, I guess a k2-2 500 is faster than a pentium ii 300
[02 Jan/13:34] <ThAmsTeR> is it?
[02 Jan/13:34] <ThAmsTeR> hehe
[02 Jan/13:35] <Azmodan> ThAmsTeR go to www.tomshardware.com and check out the cpu revies
[02 Jan/13:35] <Azmodan> reviews
[02 Jan/13:35] <ThAmsTeR> k
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[02 Jan/13:52] <pyrokiwi> back :)
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[02 Jan/13:58] <ThAmsTeR> :)
[02 Jan/13:59] <ThAmsTeR> pyrokiwi: what's the time in nz right now?
[02 Jan/13:59] <pyrokiwi> 1:53pm
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[02 Jan/13:59] <pyrokiwi> y do ya ask?
[02 Jan/13:59] <pyrokiwi> hey mrgone
[02 Jan/13:59] <Azmodan> did ya get it mrgone?
[02 Jan/13:59] <pyrokiwi> mrgone has come
[02 Jan/13:59] <mrgone> yup
[02 Jan/13:59] <Azmodan> hooyaa
[02 Jan/14:00] <pyrokiwi> hmmm
[02 Jan/14:00] <pyrokiwi> mrhere
[02 Jan/14:00] <ThAmsTeR> just wonderd...
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[02 Jan/14:29] <mrgone> :)
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[02 Jan/14:32] <pyrokiwi> :Þ~
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[02 Jan/14:41] <pyrokiwi> hey mrgone is mrhere
[02 Jan/14:41] <mrgone> :)
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[02 Jan/14:42] <mrgone> im getting disconnected alot latley
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[02 Jan/14:43] <mrgone> my isp is seriously dates,  and has 450+ customers crammed on 200 some 28.8-33.6 modems
[02 Jan/14:43] <mrgone> dates=dated
[02 Jan/14:43] <pyrokiwi> ahha
[02 Jan/14:43] <pyrokiwi> get a new isp
[02 Jan/14:44] <mrgone> bah dads too stubborn
[02 Jan/14:44] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm how old r u?
[02 Jan/14:44] <mrgone> il prolly will when dsl gets over here, its 6 houses away
[02 Jan/14:44] <mrgone> 17
[02 Jan/14:44] <pyrokiwi> oh 
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[02 Jan/15:24] <pyrokiwi> yo CJ^
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[02 Jan/15:31] <Mundane> Anyone of you got the file drmclien.dll??
[02 Jan/15:31] <pyrokiwi> not 4 u
[02 Jan/15:31] <pyrokiwi> look at the topic
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[02 Jan/15:32] <Mundane> why?
[02 Jan/15:33] <Mundane> well..anyone who nows where I can go then..a place people will help?
[02 Jan/15:33] <Azmodan> its a rule and we stick by it
[02 Jan/15:33] <pyrokiwi> goto www.windrivers.com u can get dlls there
[02 Jan/15:34] <Azmodan> mundane, try clicking start, run, type in SFC and pressing enter
[02 Jan/15:34] <Mundane> thanks
[02 Jan/15:34] <Azmodan> then tell it to get that file off your cd
[02 Jan/15:35] <Mundane> Well...I have tried....
[02 Jan/15:36] <Azmodan> did you use SFC or did you look on the cd yourself?
[02 Jan/15:36] <Mundane> I searched for it on altavista... and I found something about the file on Microsoft...it had something to do with Windows Media Player...
[02 Jan/15:36] <Azmodan> did you use SFC or did you look on the cd yourself?
[02 Jan/15:36] <Mundane> both
[02 Jan/15:38] <Azmodan> http://ftpsearch.ntnu.no
[02 Jan/15:41] <Mundane> tried it...
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[02 Jan/15:42] <Mundane> by the way i isn't ntnu.no  .... it is something with lycos.......
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[02 Jan/15:42] <Azmodan> then he hasn't tried it
[02 Jan/15:42] <Azmodan> the lycos version is so cut down its not funny
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[02 Jan/16:22] <Verbose> Hello!  Is there a command line that I could use to send a winpopup message through my network?
[02 Jan/16:22] <CJ^> not under 98
[02 Jan/16:22] <CJ^> NT yes
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[02 Jan/16:23] <CJ^> there are apps though
[02 Jan/16:24] <Verbose> Such as?
[02 Jan/16:24] <CJ^> winpopup i belive is the name of one...
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[02 Jan/16:25] <Verbose> Is it a freeware?
[02 Jan/16:25] <CJ^> some are
[02 Jan/16:25] <Azmodan> winpopup is in 98
[02 Jan/16:25] <CJ^> download.com
[02 Jan/16:25] <CJ^> search there..
[02 Jan/16:25] <CJ^> :P
[02 Jan/16:25] <Verbose> Ok, thanks! :)
[02 Jan/16:26] <CJ^> see hwo much i pay attention...
[02 Jan/16:26] <Azmodan> hehe
[02 Jan/16:26] <CJ^> but   cmd line....  
[02 Jan/16:26] <CJ^> NT has net msg
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[02 Jan/16:27] <pyrokiwi> back
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[02 Jan/16:29] <Azmodan> hi
[02 Jan/16:29] <pyrokiwi> hiya
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[02 Jan/16:30] <pyrokiwi> hiya peakapeak
[02 Jan/16:31] <peakapeak> hi
[02 Jan/16:31] <w98> niihau, peakapeak
[02 Jan/16:31] <peakapeak> how are u all
[02 Jan/16:31] <pyrokiwi> kewl  u?
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[02 Jan/16:31] <peakapeak> i would be doing better if i had win98
[02 Jan/16:31] <pyrokiwi> yeh u would
[02 Jan/16:31] <peakapeak> i need it so bad
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[02 Jan/16:31] <pyrokiwi> y?
[02 Jan/16:31] <pyrokiwi> yo Big`Ed
[02 Jan/16:31] <peakapeak> i ma useing 95 ver 1
[02 Jan/16:32] <pyrokiwi> good newyears ed?
[02 Jan/16:32] <peakapeak> i just got a usb port and can not use it
[02 Jan/16:32] <Big`Ed> yes thanks
[02 Jan/16:32] <Big`Ed> (98 channel)
[02 Jan/16:32] <pyrokiwi> ahha u need win95 b i think
[02 Jan/16:32] <Big`Ed> 95 ver 1 does not support usb
[02 Jan/16:32] <pyrokiwi> or it may be win95c
[02 Jan/16:32] <peakapeak> yes or that
[02 Jan/16:32] <Big`Ed> b
[02 Jan/16:32] <peakapeak> do u know where i can get it
[02 Jan/16:32] <Big`Ed> or 98 (as in this channel)
[02 Jan/16:33] <pyrokiwi> umm shop ?
[02 Jan/16:33] <Big`Ed> retail store
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[02 Jan/16:33] <CJ^> peak  you need win95 b or better
[02 Jan/16:33] <CJ^> or  the USB patch for win95 b
[02 Jan/16:33] <peakapeak> i have the patch but it don't work with my win95
[02 Jan/16:33] <peakapeak> (Request) Requesting:(I am looking for win98SE) «~{Polaris IRC}~»
[02 Jan/16:34] <pyrokiwi> also y did u get usb? cause a lot of the time ppl get it and dont use it
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[02 Jan/16:34] <peakapeak> i need it for my cam
[02 Jan/16:35] <pyrokiwi> ahha
[02 Jan/16:35] <Big`Ed> peak - what part about this being win98 do you not understand?
[02 Jan/16:35] <pyrokiwi> then u need to go and BUY win95b or later or even better win98 :) easy
[02 Jan/16:35] <osbourne> peakapeak, shush
[02 Jan/16:35] <pyrokiwi> or else as in my case u get ur dad to buy :)
[02 Jan/16:35] <Azmodan> hey ozzy
[02 Jan/16:36] <osbourne> howdy az
[02 Jan/16:36] <Big`Ed> hi osbourne!
[02 Jan/16:36] <pyrokiwi> anyway Big`Ed u hav a good newyear
[02 Jan/16:36] <pyrokiwi> hmm osbourne do i know u?
[02 Jan/16:36] <Big`Ed> (95b was not for sale retail!)
[02 Jan/16:36] <pyrokiwi> ok sorry then
[02 Jan/16:36] <Big`Ed> yes pyrokiwi - you?
[02 Jan/16:36] <osbourne> heh, you too ed
[02 Jan/16:36] <pyrokiwi> go buy win98
[02 Jan/16:36] <pyrokiwi> yep i had good newyears no sleep then got made to ride this horse :)
[02 Jan/16:36] <Big`Ed> head hurtting osbourne?
[02 Jan/16:37] <Azmodan> (neither was 95c or 95d)
[02 Jan/16:37] <osbourne> pyrokiwi, i've been here since near the begining
[02 Jan/16:37] <pyrokiwi> it was funny
[02 Jan/16:37] <pyrokiwi> hmmm musta somehow missed ya everytime i come
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[02 Jan/16:37] <pyrokiwi> anyway basically Big`Ed and co just hastle me :)
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[02 Jan/16:37] <pyrokiwi> and if az isnt here they hastle nz
[02 Jan/16:38] <Big`Ed> (horses)
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[02 Jan/16:38] <Azmodan> they can hassle NZ anytime they like
[02 Jan/16:38] <osbourne> nope, actually feeling usually good
[02 Jan/16:38] <pyrokiwi> oh btw az where can iget a cheap cdrom in nz ?
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[02 Jan/16:38] <pyrokiwi> or do u know wat a good price 4 NZ is
[02 Jan/16:39] <Azmodan> pyrokiwi, should be able to get a 48x for 120ish
[02 Jan/16:39] <Azmodan> go see sunskind in great south road
[02 Jan/16:39] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm
[02 Jan/16:39] <Azmodan> or are you not in auckland?
[02 Jan/16:39] <pyrokiwi> i found a 40times 4 85$ plus gst
[02 Jan/16:39] <Azmodan> pyro, thats a good price
[02 Jan/16:39] <pyrokiwi> yeh im in auckland
[02 Jan/16:39] * Big`Ed 's head hurt this AM
[02 Jan/16:40] <Azmodan> Big`Ed should not have had so much Steinlarger
[02 Jan/16:40] * pyrokiwi got told he was a "natural" for riding horses this new years
[02 Jan/16:40] * pyrokiwi was NOT drunk either
[02 Jan/16:40] <Azmodan> I should hope not
[02 Jan/16:40] <Big`Ed> the steinies where ok, the wine, champain, and vodka later was the killer
[02 Jan/16:41] * pyrokiwi had a funny time watching 2 girls beg this younger girl 4 a beer but the younger girl wouldnt let them into the fridge
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[02 Jan/16:41] <Big`Ed> hehe - good
[02 Jan/16:41] <pyrokiwi> it was funny
[02 Jan/16:42] <pyrokiwi> then they and 1 of their b|fs spend the rest of the time complaining that there were no "alchoholic beverages"
[02 Jan/16:43] <pyrokiwi> it was funny
[02 Jan/16:44] <Big`Ed> well - it will be a LONG time till i have that much alcohol again
[02 Jan/16:44] <pyrokiwi> hehe
[02 Jan/16:44] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm horses are funny
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[02 Jan/16:48] <Big`Ed> yup
[02 Jan/16:49] <Big`Ed> love them
[02 Jan/16:49] <Big`Ed> just don't get to see them enough
[02 Jan/16:49] <pyrokiwi> esp when they start galloping and dont stop and u r on 1 and it is ur second time riding 
[02 Jan/16:49] <pyrokiwi> but it stopped when i pulled very hard
[02 Jan/16:49] <Big`Ed> thats the trick
[02 Jan/16:50] <Big`Ed> shake the reins and kick the heels - and the stop fast
[02 Jan/16:50] <pyrokiwi> kick heels?
[02 Jan/16:50] <pyrokiwi> how do u reach them
[02 Jan/16:50] <pyrokiwi> i just yanked reighns and it stopped eventually
[02 Jan/16:50] <Azmodan> yeah Ed, how do you reach the horses heels?
[02 Jan/16:51] * Big`Ed has long legs
[02 Jan/16:51] <pyrokiwi> u got leg extenders or something?
[02 Jan/16:51] <Big`Ed> YOUR heels in horse rompers silly
[02 Jan/16:51] <pyrokiwi> longlegs yes but heck i hav long legs was on a small horse and still had no chance
[02 Jan/16:51] <pyrokiwi> oh that makes horse go faster
[02 Jan/16:51] <Big`Ed> what is this - pick on Americans day?
[02 Jan/16:52] <pyrokiwi> yes know that pick on kiwi year has finished
[02 Jan/16:53] <Big`Ed> it is?
[02 Jan/16:53] <pyrokiwi> yes that was 1999
[02 Jan/16:53] <pyrokiwi> this is 2000
[02 Jan/16:53] <Big`Ed> that can only be done by a declaration of osbourne
[02 Jan/16:53] <Azmodan> this is pick on pyrokiwi year
[02 Jan/16:53] <Azmodan> all new fun to be had
[02 Jan/16:53] <pyrokiwi> NO that was last year
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[02 Jan/16:54] <pyrokiwi> hmmm my pc failed my y2k test but works fine now
[02 Jan/16:54] <Big`Ed> what part of test?
[02 Jan/16:54] <pyrokiwi> i set bios to 250 it didnt work
[02 Jan/16:54] <pyrokiwi> woops 2750
[02 Jan/16:54] <pyrokiwi> but hopefully ill hav new pc by then
[02 Jan/16:54] <pyrokiwi> :)
[02 Jan/16:54] <Big`Ed> thats a y2750 test - not y2k
[02 Jan/16:54] <pyrokiwi> lol
[02 Jan/16:55] <pyrokiwi> i know i did it b4 i learned that u dont need to save changes n bios to change clock
[02 Jan/16:55] <Big`Ed> hehe
[02 Jan/16:55] <Big`Ed> real kiwi's would have KNOWN that
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[02 Jan/16:56] <pyrokiwi> my friend told me i left it on that but i didnt believe him
[02 Jan/16:56] <pyrokiwi> then 5 minutes later i felt dumb
[02 Jan/16:56] <CJ^> took 5 mins till ya felt dumb?
[02 Jan/16:57] <Azmodan> I think he's picking on you pyro
[02 Jan/16:57] * Big`Ed smells something burning
[02 Jan/16:57] <Big`Ed> smells like fruit
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[02 Jan/16:58] <CJ^> hehe
[02 Jan/16:58] <CJ^> kiwi  in the microwave
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[02 Jan/16:58] * pyrokiwi is getting annoyed
[02 Jan/16:58] <Big`Ed> set 4 - 5minutes
[02 Jan/16:58] <Big`Ed> on HI
[02 Jan/16:58] <CJ^> rotate halfway through
[02 Jan/16:59] <CJ^> serve with tater tots
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[02 Jan/17:00] * pyrokiwi yells and screams
[02 Jan/17:00] <Big`Ed> hehe
[02 Jan/17:00] <Big`Ed> best part
[02 Jan/17:00] * pyrokiwi wonders if Big`Ed has a pic?
[02 Jan/17:01] ! test0r is known as Q_SuIcIde
[02 Jan/17:03] * pyrokiwi wonders if any1 here has a pic
[02 Jan/17:03] <Big`Ed> sure - i have lots of pics on my wall
[02 Jan/17:03] * pyrokiwi has a pic and has given it around but no every1 else is too CHICKEN
[02 Jan/17:04] <CJ^> you just said yer system aint Y2K compliant... and yer gonna subject yerself to the likes of Ed???
[02 Jan/17:04] <CJ^> eww  thats brave
[02 Jan/17:05] * Big`Ed glances at the topic
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[02 Jan/17:05] <CJ^> sorry  << monitor is too fragile...
[02 Jan/17:05] ! Dark^LuVr is known as DeViLgAl
[02 Jan/17:05] <CJ^> may break
[02 Jan/17:05] <CJ^> besides.. i only have room for the nudes i get online.....
[02 Jan/17:06] <CJ^> i mean.. um...   Tux pics.. yeah  thats it
[02 Jan/17:06] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm
[02 Jan/17:06] <pyrokiwi> CJ^
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[02 Jan/17:06] <Big`Ed> hi King_TJ
[02 Jan/17:06] <King_TJ> Hello....
[02 Jan/17:06] <King_TJ> Actually, I just came in here 'cuz I have a quick question. Looking for a Hayes ESP accelerator driver for '98....
[02 Jan/17:07] <King_TJ> Since Hayes went backrupt a while back, looks like the drivers are nowhere to be found anymore and I lost my disk for mine.
[02 Jan/17:07] <pyrokiwi> www.windrivers.com
[02 Jan/17:07] <CJ^> www.windrivers.com
[02 Jan/17:07] <pyrokiwi> lol i betya to it
[02 Jan/17:07] <King_TJ> I tried windrivers .... and it sucked. Just pointed me to www.hayes.com
[02 Jan/17:07] <CJ^> but........ being that Hayes is no longer in action  who knows if its available...
[02 Jan/17:08] <pyrokiwi> www.driverguide.com BUT use ie to go there
[02 Jan/17:08] <pyrokiwi> also login-drivers password-all
[02 Jan/17:08] <King_TJ> Hmm.... ok. Might try that.
[02 Jan/17:08] <Big`Ed> pyrokiwi - is that a legal site?
[02 Jan/17:09] <CJ^> windrivers.com seems to have em now
[02 Jan/17:09] <pyrokiwi> Big`Ed as far as i know it is
[02 Jan/17:09] <CJ^> http://www.windrivers.com/company/hayes/index.htm   << there?
[02 Jan/17:09] <pyrokiwi> y wouldnt it be Big`Ed?
[02 Jan/17:10] <Big`Ed> pyrokiwi - most sites that require passowrds arn't
[02 Jan/17:10] <Azmodan> driverguide is ok
[02 Jan/17:10] <pyrokiwi> yeh
[02 Jan/17:10] <pyrokiwi> Big`Ed every login/password is same
[02 Jan/17:10] <Big`Ed> ok
[02 Jan/17:10] <pyrokiwi> go there and u will see
[02 Jan/17:10] <Big`Ed> sorry
[02 Jan/17:10] <Big`Ed> just asking
[02 Jan/17:11] <pyrokiwi> thats ok :)
[02 Jan/17:11] <Azmodan> back to pick on american day is it?
[02 Jan/17:11] <CJ^> forgiven  for now...
[02 Jan/17:11] <Big`Ed> no - pick on dudes from WA, USA
[02 Jan/17:11] <pyrokiwi> lol yep pick on americans
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[02 Jan/17:15] <Azmodan> -op Aphrodite Mandy_ Tribble 
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[02 Jan/17:22] <King_TJ> [CJ^]: windrivers.com didn't have an ESP driver on that link you posted.....
[02 Jan/17:23] <King_TJ> I think I'm outta luck on that thing....
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[02 Jan/17:24] <CJ^> possible..
[02 Jan/17:24] <CJ^> what is the ESP anyways?
[02 Jan/17:24] <CJ^> just a modem?
[02 Jan/17:24] <CJ^> or  what is it?
[02 Jan/17:24] <CJ^> ok
[02 Jan/17:24] <CJ^> NM
[02 Jan/17:24] <CJ^> ok...  
[02 Jan/17:24] <CJ^> Unrel time
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[02 Jan/17:29] <ninou_> meilleurs voeux de belgique (europe) à toutes et tous :-)
[02 Jan/17:29] <Azmodan> english please
[02 Jan/17:29] <ninou_> ok  sorry
[02 Jan/17:29] <Azmodan> how can we help?
[02 Jan/17:30] <pyrokiwi> ?
[02 Jan/17:30] <ninou_> i don't speak english   bye
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[02 Jan/17:30] <Azmodan> lol
[02 Jan/17:31] <Azmodan> thats pretty good for no english
[02 Jan/17:31] <pyrokiwi> lol
[02 Jan/17:31] <deek44> indeed
[02 Jan/17:34] ! ^^Maab^^ is known as everyone
[02 Jan/17:34] ! everyone is known as ^^Maab^^
[02 Jan/17:35] <pyrokiwi> if ppl talk to me in other languages i talk in english to say i cant
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[02 Jan/17:36] <pyrokiwi> ping pls
[02 Jan/17:37] <Azmodan> no
[02 Jan/17:37] <pyrokiwi> plsplspls
[02 Jan/17:37] <pyrokiwi> y not?
[02 Jan/17:37] <Azmodan> because your obviously not lagged
[02 Jan/17:37] <pyrokiwi> oh ok ":)
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[02 Jan/17:44] <pyrokiwi> hmmm i wonder who here likes flash bios?
[02 Jan/17:44] <pyrokiwi> i kinda dont
[02 Jan/17:44] <pyrokiwi> cause if u hav virus u can wreck ur whole mb
[02 Jan/17:45] <pyrokiwi> my friend got cih with flashbios but was lucky so is alive (his bros pc) (ex graphics workstation)
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[02 Jan/17:46] <sucker11> can someone help me... my mouse cursor keeps going busy like every 3 secs... no matter what i do it is always busy... is it a auto refresh thing or something... please help it is drving me crazy
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[02 Jan/17:47] <Elysian> hi
[02 Jan/17:48] <Elysian> fultar: did your bios update work?
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[02 Jan/17:50] <Elysian> hi
[02 Jan/17:51] <Boney> how do I connect two video cards together
[02 Jan/17:51] <Elysian> boney: what type?
[02 Jan/17:51] <pyrokiwi> wat video cards?
[02 Jan/17:51] <pyrokiwi> can they be connected?
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[02 Jan/17:51] <Boney> viper v550 and vodoo 3 3000
[02 Jan/17:51] <Elysian> you can't
[02 Jan/17:51] <Elysian> they are incompatible
[02 Jan/17:52] <pyrokiwi> do u mean as in 2 moniters?
[02 Jan/17:52] <Boney> R U sure
[02 Jan/17:52] <Boney> no 
[02 Jan/17:52] <Boney> I want both card to run on my computer using only one montier
[02 Jan/17:52] <Elysian> if you had voodoo2's then they would work but other than that it is practically impossible
[02 Jan/17:52] <pyrokiwi> nope voodoo3 doesnt need it
[02 Jan/17:53] <FultarX> yo elysian
[02 Jan/17:53] <FultarX> that flash screwed up my board
[02 Jan/17:53] <FultarX> won't boot any more
[02 Jan/17:53] <Elysian> really?
[02 Jan/17:53] <pyrokiwi> yeh i hate flash
[02 Jan/17:53] <Elysian> thats messed up
[02 Jan/17:53] <Elysian> what you should do
[02 Jan/17:53] <Elysian> there is a jumper on your motherboard to reset the cmos
[02 Jan/17:53] <Elysian> i think that could possibly help
[02 Jan/17:54] <Boney> some one said that it will work but I need a little program
[02 Jan/17:54] <Elysian> boney: never heard of such a program
[02 Jan/17:54] <FultarX> what will it reset thought...
[02 Jan/17:54] <CJafk> why use 2 2d/3d cards in one system
[02 Jan/17:54] <Boney> no that will not help because U reprogramed the bios
[02 Jan/17:54] <FultarX> will it go back to the original??
[02 Jan/17:54] <FultarX> yeah that is what I thought
[02 Jan/17:54] <CJafk> didnt know thay the VD3 3000 was pci either...
[02 Jan/17:54] <Elysian> but if you could write one then send it to me cause i gotta couple of incompatible cards i wanna bind!:)
[02 Jan/17:55] <FultarX> that is if you forget your password
[02 Jan/17:55] <Elysian> fultar: dunno but it is your only chance that i know of
[02 Jan/17:55] <Elysian> cj: v3's are pci and agp
[02 Jan/17:55] <Elysian> 3k's
[02 Jan/17:55] <Elysian> i've seen em
[02 Jan/17:55] <Elysian> at fry'sa
[02 Jan/17:55] <Elysian> -a
[02 Jan/17:55] <CJafk> ick
[02 Jan/17:55] <pyrokiwi> hmmm i think unless u hav remoovable bios ur whole mb may be scrapped
[02 Jan/17:55] <Elysian> yeah
[02 Jan/17:55] <Elysian> thats what i said
[02 Jan/17:56] <Elysian> but if you are like me with only pci and isa, then you'd be happy:)
[02 Jan/17:56] <Elysian> and a crappy s3 virge decelerator
[02 Jan/17:56] <pyrokiwi> yeh Elysian im like u :)
[02 Jan/17:56] <pyrokiwi> join the club
[02 Jan/17:56] <Elysian> hehe
[02 Jan/17:56] <pyrokiwi> :Þ~
[02 Jan/17:56] <Elysian> i'm gonna be happy when i get my athlon!:)
[02 Jan/17:56] <Elysian> i know you hate it cj:)
[02 Jan/17:57] <pyrokiwi> lol
[02 Jan/17:57] <pyrokiwi> same
[02 Jan/17:57] <Elysian> that'll be april!
[02 Jan/17:57] <Elysian> tax back monet
[02 Jan/17:57] <Elysian> money
[02 Jan/17:57] <Elysian> actually
[02 Jan/17:57] <Elysian> probly may or so
[02 Jan/17:57] <Elysian> i will get a lotta money back(at least to me)
[02 Jan/17:57] <pyrokiwi> hmmm thatl be never or long time 4 me
[02 Jan/17:58] <Azmodan> doh
[02 Jan/17:58] <pyrokiwi> wat az?
[02 Jan/17:58] <Azmodan> better wishes of Belgium (Europe) to all and all
[02 Jan/17:58] <Azmodan> he was give us his best wishes
[02 Jan/17:58] <Elysian> why?
[02 Jan/17:58] <pyrokiwi> huh
[02 Jan/17:59] <Azmodan> that guy before
[02 Jan/17:59] <Elysian> which guy?
[02 Jan/17:59] <pyrokiwi> oh ok thanx to him
[02 Jan/17:59] <pyrokiwi> gtg syas
[02 Jan/17:59] <Azmodan> ely, some guy came in speaking french
[02 Jan/17:59] <Elysian> ok
[02 Jan/17:59] <pyrokiwi> oh :)
[02 Jan/17:59] <Elysian> too bad lordwar doesn't get on anymore:)
[02 Jan/17:59] <Azmodan> hehehe
[02 Jan/18:00] <Azmodan> w98 translate to french why can't we do it ourselves?
[02 Jan/18:00] < SignOff: pyrokiwi!hehe@210-55-122-234.dialup.xtra.co.nz (sya all **hugs**)
[02 Jan/18:00] [w98> Azmodan: pourquoi ne pouvons-nous pas le faire nous-mêmes?
[02 Jan/18:00] <Elysian> hehe
[02 Jan/18:00] * Elysian is no frenchie!
[02 Jan/18:00] <Elysian> :)
[02 Jan/18:01] <Azmodan> ok for those that don't know, w98 is an infobot
[02 Jan/18:01] <Azmodan> he's full of all sorts of tips
[02 Jan/18:01] <Elysian> hehe
[02 Jan/18:01] <Boney> who is pyrokiwi
[02 Jan/18:01] <w98> well, pyrokiwi is Azmodan's friend
[02 Jan/18:02] <Boney> can anyone help me with my video cards
[02 Jan/18:02] <Azmodan> w98 forget pyrokiwi
[02 Jan/18:02] [w98> Azmodan: I forgot pyrokiwi
[02 Jan/18:02] <Azmodan> whats up with them boney?
[02 Jan/18:03] + Azmodan suggests boney read the topic
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[02 Jan/18:04] <Boney> sorry
[02 Jan/18:04] <Elysian> hi jet
[02 Jan/18:04] <Azmodan> Boney, no /msg's
[02 Jan/18:04] <Azmodan> hehe
[02 Jan/18:04] <Azmodan> now whats your question?
[02 Jan/18:04] <jet> hey hows things?
[02 Jan/18:04] * Elysian thinks jet should ditch pirch and get a real script!
[02 Jan/18:04] <Elysian>  <<ÐêtóÑ8®>> v3.0  Internet terrorism at its finest.
[02 Jan/18:05] <Elysian> err
[02 Jan/18:05] <Elysian> client
[02 Jan/18:05] <Elysian> :)
[02 Jan/18:05] [Boney> azmodan can U help
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[02 Jan/18:05] + Azmodan reminds Elysian that pirch is not a script
[02 Jan/18:05] <jet> is that right?
[02 Jan/18:05] <Elysian> i know:)
[02 Jan/18:05] <Boney> I want to connect two video cards
[02 Jan/18:05] <Elysian> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^6
[02 Jan/18:05] <jet> I'm open
[02 Jan/18:05] <Elysian> [11:03] <Elysian> client
[02 Jan/18:05] <Boney> I have a viper v550 and a Voodoo 3 3000
[02 Jan/18:05] <Elysian> boney: good luck!
[02 Jan/18:05] <Azmodan> ok boney
[02 Jan/18:05] <Elysian> thats a impossible pare
[02 Jan/18:05] <Elysian> pair
[02 Jan/18:05] <Azmodan> are they both pci?
[02 Jan/18:06] <Boney> no one is pci and the other is agp
[02 Jan/18:06] [Elysian> azmodan: he wants to connect them and use only one monitor!
[02 Jan/18:06] + Azmodan puts his glasses on
[02 Jan/18:06] <Azmodan> now I can read my screen!
[02 Jan/18:06] <CJafk> Boney...  where did you hear you can do that?
[02 Jan/18:07] <Boney> can I use tyhe viper with the voodoo 3 2000???
[02 Jan/18:07] <Elysian> i thought it was a 300
[02 Jan/18:07] <CJafk> NO
[02 Jan/18:07] <Boney> just wonding
[02 Jan/18:07] <CJafk> no...
[02 Jan/18:07] <Elysian> 3000
[02 Jan/18:07] <CJafk> look  
[02 Jan/18:07] <Azmodan> getting multi monitor to work with pci and agp combos is difficult
[02 Jan/18:07] <CJafk> both cards are 2d/3d
[02 Jan/18:07] <Elysian> no kidding
[02 Jan/18:07] <CJafk> well  thats easier than what he wants to do...
[02 Jan/18:07] <Elysian> i had a tough enough time with 2 pci
[02 Jan/18:07] <Azmodan> yeah
[02 Jan/18:07] <Boney> I just want to use one moniter
[02 Jan/18:08] <CJafk> Boney  no
[02 Jan/18:08] <Azmodan> boney, then you only need the voodoo
[02 Jan/18:08] <CJafk> ya cant do that...
[02 Jan/18:08] <CJafk> not that way
[02 Jan/18:08] <Elysian> 2 s3 virge identical cards and it didn't work!!!!
[02 Jan/18:08] <CJafk> stick with one card...
[02 Jan/18:08] <CJafk> or  go multimon...
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[02 Jan/18:08] <Boney> how much is voodoo 2
[02 Jan/18:08] <Elysian> nothing ever showed up ont he second monitor
[02 Jan/18:08] <Elysian> :(
[02 Jan/18:08] <Elysian> it said it worked and i could movce stuff there, but no can do!
[02 Jan/18:08] <CJafk> VD2 is cheap
[02 Jan/18:08] <CJafk> but  why bother?
[02 Jan/18:08] <CJafk> ya got a VD 3
[02 Jan/18:09] <CJafk> use it
[02 Jan/18:09] <Elysian> no kidding
[02 Jan/18:09] <Boney> I used two moniter but I just only want to use one moniter
[02 Jan/18:09] <CJafk> oe send it to me...
[02 Jan/18:09] <CJafk> ill send ya a vd2
[02 Jan/18:09] <CJafk> Boney   this isnt a 2d card witha  3d card..
[02 Jan/18:09] <CJafk> its two 2d/3d cards...
[02 Jan/18:09] <CJafk> you cant link the two on one monitor...
[02 Jan/18:10] <Azmodan> Boney, take the viper out and put it in a box to gather cobwebs
[02 Jan/18:10] <Elysian> or send it to me!:)
[02 Jan/18:10] <Azmodan> Boney, you only need to use the voodoo3 card.  It combines both 2d and 3d in the same card
[02 Jan/18:10] <CJafk> heck yeah
[02 Jan/18:11] <Azmodan> it is not like earlier voodoo's that were seperate 3d only
[02 Jan/18:11] <Boney> but one moniter can only handle 800x600 one the voodoo
[02 Jan/18:11] <CJafk> so?
[02 Jan/18:11] <w98> so is, like, it
[02 Jan/18:11] <Azmodan> your voodoo 3 will handle up to 1280x1024
[02 Jan/18:12] <CJafk> like having two cards is gonna make it better???
[02 Jan/18:12] <Azmodan> but it sounds more like you need a new monitor
[02 Jan/18:12] <Boney> I have a 15" moniter
[02 Jan/18:12] <Elysian> boney: but on the other it does higher?
[02 Jan/18:12] <Elysian> the other card
[02 Jan/18:12] <Azmodan> Boney, you probably only have an 800x600 monitor driver loaded
[02 Jan/18:13] <Elysian> or
[02 Jan/18:13] <CJafk> a 15" should do 1024x768
[02 Jan/18:13] <Elysian> you need to load a monitor driver saying your monitor does 1280x1024... the same exact thing happened to me!
[02 Jan/18:13] <Boney> not on a voodoo
[02 Jan/18:13] <CJafk> SVGA 1024x768
[02 Jan/18:13] <CJafk> yes
[02 Jan/18:13] <CJafk> on a voodoo 3
[02 Jan/18:13] <Azmodan> yes on a voodoo
[02 Jan/18:13] <Elysian> yeah
[02 Jan/18:13] <Azmodan> I'm doing it myself on my own voodoo 3
[02 Jan/18:13] <CJafk> voodoo 2 no...
[02 Jan/18:13] <Elysian> but if you set it to 1024x768 it does the one lower.... 800x600...
[02 Jan/18:13] <CJafk> voodoo 2 was 800x600 i think max
[02 Jan/18:14] <Boney> my moniter can handle 1280x1024
[02 Jan/18:14] <Elysian> boney: but make the v3 think it can
[02 Jan/18:14] <Elysian> then set it to 1024x768 and it should work
[02 Jan/18:14] <Boney> on a voodoo 3 a 15" moniter can handle 800x600
[02 Jan/18:14] <Elysian> boney
[02 Jan/18:14] <Azmodan> Boney, incorrect
[02 Jan/18:14] <Elysian> change the monitor type
[02 Jan/18:14] <Elysian> cause it'll do higher
[02 Jan/18:14] <Elysian> it does 1920x1440 or so i think
[02 Jan/18:15] <Boney> done that
[02 Jan/18:15] <Elysian> boney: changed the monitor type to a higher res monitor?
[02 Jan/18:15] <Boney> done that but can't be changed
[02 Jan/18:16] <Azmodan> Boney of course it can be done
[02 Jan/18:16] <Azmodan> and if you give me a second I'll tell you exactly how
[02 Jan/18:16] <Boney> not on the voodoo
[02 Jan/18:16] <Boney> I'm running on my viper
[02 Jan/18:16] <Azmodan> boney do you want the help
[02 Jan/18:16] <Elysian> boney: you can get it higher trust me!
[02 Jan/18:16] <Boney> yeah
[02 Jan/18:17] <Azmodan> which card is in the computer right now?
[02 Jan/18:17] <Boney> viper
[02 Jan/18:17] <Elysian> run on the voodoo... you can get highr if you just listen
[02 Jan/18:17] <Azmodan> right, remove its drivers and install the voodoo3 then come back and I'll tell you what to do next
[02 Jan/18:17] <Boney> ok
[02 Jan/18:17] <Azmodan> (and take the card out too)
[02 Jan/18:18] <Boney> ok I am running on the voodoo now
[02 Jan/18:18] <Elysian> boney: how is that?
[02 Jan/18:18] <Boney> I have both cards on
[02 Jan/18:18] <Elysian> and all you did was switch the wire?
[02 Jan/18:18] <Boney> yeah
[02 Jan/18:18] <Azmodan> boney, take the other card out
[02 Jan/18:19] <Azmodan> the viper is the limiting factor here
[02 Jan/18:19] <Elysian> you should get another monitor! multimonitor seems to be working... seems
[02 Jan/18:19] <Azmodan> get it out of the computer
[02 Jan/18:19] <Elysian> like
[02 Jan/18:19] <Elysian> shut down
[02 Jan/18:19] <Elysian> andtake it out
[02 Jan/18:19] <Boney> ok
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[02 Jan/18:19] <Azmodan> arrrrrgh
[02 Jan/18:19] <Elysian> hehe
[02 Jan/18:19] <Elysian> ignorant people
[02 Jan/18:20] <jet> some people you just cant help
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[02 Jan/18:21] <Boney> I'm back
[02 Jan/18:21] <Azmodan> no viper card in the computer?
[02 Jan/18:22] <Boney> yeah
[02 Jan/18:22] <Azmodan> ok what resolution choices do you have now?
[02 Jan/18:23] <Boney> 800x600 only
[02 Jan/18:23] <Azmodan> ok
[02 Jan/18:23] <Azmodan> now
[02 Jan/18:23] <Azmodan> right click your desktop and select properties
[02 Jan/18:23] <Azmodan> click the settings tab after that
[02 Jan/18:23] <Azmodan> then click the advanced button
[02 Jan/18:23] <Azmodan> then click the Monitor Tab
[02 Jan/18:23] <Azmodan> then click the change button
[02 Jan/18:24] <Azmodan> click the next button
[02 Jan/18:24] <Azmodan> select Display a list of all drivers
[02 Jan/18:24] <Azmodan> click next
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[02 Jan/18:24] <Azmodan> select Show all hardware
[02 Jan/18:25] <Azmodan> in the left hand side title Manufacturers select (Standard monitor types)
[02 Jan/18:25] <Azmodan> in the right hand side tittled Models select Super VGA 1024x768
[02 Jan/18:25] <Boney> ok
[02 Jan/18:25] <Azmodan> click next
[02 Jan/18:25] <Boney> ok
[02 Jan/18:25] <Azmodan> then click next again
[02 Jan/18:26] <Verbose> Is there a way to make a message pop-up on your own screen using a cmd line?
[02 Jan/18:26] <Azmodan> then click finish
[02 Jan/18:26] <Boney> done
[02 Jan/18:26] <Azmodan> click close
[02 Jan/18:26] <Boney> don't work
[02 Jan/18:26] <Azmodan> now in the Screen Area section of the windows that remains open select the higher res
[02 Jan/18:26] <CJafk> what monitor do you have?
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[02 Jan/18:27] <CJafk> what brand and model?
[02 Jan/18:27] <Boney> moniter 1024x768
[02 Jan/18:27] <Boney> but running only on 800x600
[02 Jan/18:27] <Boney> proview
[02 Jan/18:27] <CJafk> then switch it to 1024x768
[02 Jan/18:27] <Azmodan> you will now have a 1024x768 option
[02 Jan/18:28] <Azmodan> just move the slider to the right to select it
[02 Jan/18:28] <Boney> can't move it
[02 Jan/18:28] <CJafk> its maxed at 800x600?
[02 Jan/18:28] <Boney> yeah
[02 Jan/18:28] <Azmodan> Boney, how many little computer screens are shown in that window?
[02 Jan/18:28] <CJafk> grrr.. proview ... MODEL   
[02 Jan/18:29] <Boney> one
[02 Jan/18:29] <Azmodan> now answer CJ please
[02 Jan/18:29] <CJafk> get the correct INF file from proview or windrivers..
[02 Jan/18:29] <Boney> ok
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[02 Jan/18:29] <CJafk> nm
[02 Jan/18:29] <Azmodan> wonder what step he missed
[02 Jan/18:29] <CJafk> just flipping nm
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[02 Jan/18:30] <CJafk> any 15" monitor i know can do 1024x768
[02 Jan/18:30] <Azmodan> I've only seen some old compaq 15"'s that can't do it
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[02 Jan/18:30] <CJafk> Maximum resolution 1280X1024, Non-interlaced
[02 Jan/18:30] <Azmodan> wb cat
[02 Jan/18:31] <CJafk> thats from Proviews site
[02 Jan/18:31] <Verbose> Could someone help me, please?
[02 Jan/18:32] <Azmodan> whats up verbose?
[02 Jan/18:33] <Verbose> Is there a way to make a message pop-up on your own screen (in a grey window with a "Yes" and "Cancel" button) using a cmd line?
[02 Jan/18:37] <CJafk> not with 98 that i know of
[02 Jan/18:39] <Verbose> >:|   Ok, thanks for your help :)
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[02 Jan/18:43] <Azmodan> verbose
[02 Jan/18:44] <Azmodan> you just want a simple message to pop up?
[02 Jan/18:45] <Verbose> yes
[02 Jan/18:46] <Azmodan> do you need a cancel button?
[02 Jan/18:47] <Verbose> Cancel or OK would be fine :)
[02 Jan/18:47] <Cat`Woman> so, az.. what do you think would be the absolute fastest and easiest way to verify a correct installation of a network card?
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[02 Jan/18:48] <Azmodan> if its on a tcp/ip network just give it a number and ping something
[02 Jan/18:48] <Azmodan> if that works then the card is fine
[02 Jan/18:48] <Cat`Woman> well...
[02 Jan/18:48] <Cat`Woman> it is a tcp/ip network, and the cableing is all in place but..
[02 Jan/18:48] <Cat`Woman> hmmm
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[02 Jan/18:48] <Azmodan> or if there are shares on the network then just tick file shareing and see what pops up
[02 Jan/18:49] <Cat`Woman> there is no server
[02 Jan/18:49] <Cat`Woman> not yet
[02 Jan/18:49] <Cat`Woman> I want to get the cards in the client systems first
[02 Jan/18:49] <Cat`Woman> can I set up a quick peer to peer?
[02 Jan/18:50] <Azmodan> maybe install tcp/ip and ping the local loopback
[02 Jan/18:50] <Azmodan> e.g. ping 127.0.01
[02 Jan/18:50] <Azmodan> e.g. ping 127.0.0.1
[02 Jan/18:50] <Cat`Woman> that sounds good
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[02 Jan/18:51] [Verbose> Azmodan: do you have a solution?
[02 Jan/18:52] <Azmodan> I'll be right with you Verbose I'm almost finished
[02 Jan/18:52] <Verbose> ok... :)
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[02 Jan/19:00] <Azmodan> ok Verbose
[02 Jan/19:00] <Azmodan> let me get this to a website for you
[02 Jan/19:00] <Azmodan> so you can download it
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[02 Jan/19:07] <Azmodan> Verbose, you still here?
[02 Jan/19:07] <Verbose> Yep ...
[02 Jan/19:07] <Azmodan> www.azmodan.ath.cx/conmsg.exe
[02 Jan/19:07] <Azmodan> usage: conmsg message goes here
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[02 Jan/19:08] <Verbose> is it a program you just made up?
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[02 Jan/19:09] <Azmodan> yes
[02 Jan/19:09] <Azmodan> its like 10kb
[02 Jan/19:10] <Verbose> Is it C++?
[02 Jan/19:10] <Azmodan> nope
[02 Jan/19:10] <Azmodan> pascal
[02 Jan/19:12] <Verbose> Oh... Could you send me the source code?
[02 Jan/19:12] <Azmodan> nope
[02 Jan/19:12] <Azmodan> ;-)
[02 Jan/19:12] ! CJafk is known as CJ^
[02 Jan/19:12] <Verbose> :|
[02 Jan/19:12] <Azmodan> I'll release it along with my other tools ;-)
[02 Jan/19:12] <Azmodan> wb CJ
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[02 Jan/19:13] <Verbose> Oh.. Ok, can't argue with that :)
[02 Jan/19:13] <Verbose> Well, thanks for the program!
[02 Jan/19:13] <Azmodan> np
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[02 Jan/19:14] <Azmodan> wb again CJ
[02 Jan/19:15] <CJ^> :P
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[02 Jan/19:29] <Malik> hi any one is good in computer plz?
[02 Jan/19:29] <CJ^> depends on what ya need help with
[02 Jan/19:30] [Verbose> Azmodan: Is there a way to get rid of the black window behind the message?
[02 Jan/19:30] <CJ^> dont msg malik
[02 Jan/19:30] <CJ^> dont msg malik
[02 Jan/19:30] <Azmodan> black window?
[02 Jan/19:30] <CJ^> `op
[02 Jan/19:30] @ mode #win98 [+o CJ^] by Proteus!itsnotme@0wned.the.US-GOVT.org
[02 Jan/19:30] <CJ^> dont msg malik
[02 Jan/19:30] <Azmodan> hehehe forgot about that
[02 Jan/19:30] <CJ^> thats three
[02 Jan/19:30] <CJ^> ask in channel..
[02 Jan/19:30] <CJ^> dont msg malik
[02 Jan/19:30] <Malik> ok
[02 Jan/19:31] <Azmodan> Verbose, just right click the exe and set it to start minimised
[02 Jan/19:31] <Malik> sorry
[02 Jan/19:31] <Verbose> Doesn't work...
[02 Jan/19:31] <Azmodan> it doesn't?
[02 Jan/19:31] <Verbose> nop :(
[02 Jan/19:32] <CJ^> worked for me
[02 Jan/19:32] <Azmodan> let me do some tests
[02 Jan/19:32] <Azmodan> cancel that, let CJ do some tests ;-)
[02 Jan/19:32] <CJ^> yeap
[02 Jan/19:32] <CJ^> tried it again
[02 Jan/19:32] <CJ^> works
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[02 Jan/19:32] <Rynz-> does anyone here have a Link to a SITE that has a PREMADE windows 98 boot disk zipped up into a zip file? like win98.zip or whatever? if someone can give me a win98 boot disk zipped up, ill give u access to my private T3 FTP site with new uploads every hour.......**ATTENTION**
[02 Jan/19:33] <CJ^> Rynz
[02 Jan/19:33] <CJ^> make one
[02 Jan/19:33] <CJ^> you have 98
[02 Jan/19:33] <Rynz-> im in linux
[02 Jan/19:33] <CJ^> use it to make it
[02 Jan/19:33] <Rynz-> thats why i cant
[02 Jan/19:33] <Rynz-> i have the cd though
[02 Jan/19:33] <Rynz-> cj, can u do it for me
[02 Jan/19:33] ! QT^ShoWa is known as Chiwi^OUt
[02 Jan/19:33] <CJ^> where is your original win98 boot disk?
[02 Jan/19:33] <Rynz-> make a boot disk, then zip the contents of a: to a dir on c:
[02 Jan/19:33] <Rynz-> then zip it up, then dcc to me
[02 Jan/19:33] <CJ^> no
[02 Jan/19:33] <CJ^> we dont send files in this channel..
[02 Jan/19:33] <Rynz-> wtf?
[02 Jan/19:33] <Rynz-> wtf is undernet
[02 Jan/19:34] <CJ^> Malik... are ya gonna ask yer questions?
[02 Jan/19:34] <Rynz-> a network of scared newbies?
[02 Jan/19:34] <Rynz-> dcc is part of irc........
[02 Jan/19:34] <Rynz-> jesus
[02 Jan/19:34] <Malik> well i have a user at chn...he joined my chn..and he said how come he get into chn webpage...even he doesnot has address for chn webpage
[02 Jan/19:34] <Malik> yeah
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[02 Jan/19:34] <CJ^> its channel rules
[02 Jan/19:34] <CJ^> follw em
[02 Jan/19:34] <Rynz-> wow? someone that is in mirc
[02 Jan/19:34] <Rynz-> thath as set rules
[02 Jan/19:34] <Rynz-> for a virtual channel
[02 Jan/19:34] <Rynz-> go fuck yourself
[02 Jan/19:34] <Azmodan> -kb Rynz- 
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[02 Jan/19:35] <Malik> i am wondering does he hack my computer something like this....bla bla..where i can get help
[02 Jan/19:35] <Malik> i never give him address for wpage
[02 Jan/19:35] <Verbose> If I set it to start minimised, everything is minimised, even the message... :(
[02 Jan/19:35] <CJ^> Malik?  who hacked your computer?
[02 Jan/19:36] <Malik> that's what i am asking....guy said how come he get in chn webpage...with out typing address...
[02 Jan/19:36] <Azmodan> Verbose, gimme a few, I'll get that thing hidden for you
[02 Jan/19:36] <Malik> he just join a chn n he said he got there automatically
[02 Jan/19:36] <CJ^> ok.. im not understanding you Malik....
[02 Jan/19:37] <Malik> ok
[02 Jan/19:37] <CJ^> you say someone hacked your site...
[02 Jan/19:37] <Malik> i have a bot..n bot is creating html file
[02 Jan/19:37] <Malik> right
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[02 Jan/19:38] <Malik> n this person join the channel
[02 Jan/19:38] <CJ^> ok
[02 Jan/19:38] <Malik> n he said he was get in channel webpage
[02 Jan/19:38] <Malik> automatically
[02 Jan/19:39] <Malik> i mean he said its pop up
[02 Jan/19:39] <Malik> n he was there
[02 Jan/19:39] <CJ^> ok..
[02 Jan/19:39] <Malik> i never give him channel webpage address
[02 Jan/19:39] <CJ^> maybe his chat client goes to web pages/URL that are posted
[02 Jan/19:40] <Malik> i was wondering he send me dcc file which was just txt file...
[02 Jan/19:40] <CJ^> if the bot is posting the web page when he comes in channel..
[02 Jan/19:40] <Malik> he might tried  to hack..or
[02 Jan/19:40] <Malik> yeah
[02 Jan/19:40] <CJ^> well.. never accept fiels from ppll ya dont know..
[02 Jan/19:40] <Malik> i know him
[02 Jan/19:41] <Malik> he is regular user
[02 Jan/19:41] <Malik> i mean i never get into chn webpage
[02 Jan/19:41] <CJ^> well.. he had to have the URL...
[02 Jan/19:41] <Malik> but he did
[02 Jan/19:41] <Malik> he said he doesnot has url
[02 Jan/19:42] <CJ^> but you said the channel bot sends the URL out  correct?
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[02 Jan/19:42] <Malik> yeap
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[02 Jan/19:42] <CJ^> then i gather thats how he got it...
[02 Jan/19:42] <Malik> i mean bot is updating that site every 5 mintues
[02 Jan/19:43] <Malik> n that's shell site
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[02 Jan/19:44] <Azmodan> Verbose, same website
[02 Jan/19:46] <Verbose> Sorry, I lost the address :(
[02 Jan/19:46] <Azmodan> www.azmodan.ath.cx/conmsg.exe
[02 Jan/19:48] <Azmodan> is that better ;-)
[02 Jan/19:48] <Verbose> Thank you so much.. This is perfect for me =)
[02 Jan/19:48] <Azmodan> thats what I like to see
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[02 Jan/19:49] <Azmodan> another hapy custimer
[02 Jan/19:49] <Y2Kay> hello 
[02 Jan/19:49] <Azmodan> customer
[02 Jan/19:49] <Azmodan> hi Kay
[02 Jan/19:49] <Y2Kay> I need a TINY help azm
[02 Jan/19:49] <Verbose> :)
[02 Jan/19:49] <Azmodan> whats that Kay
[02 Jan/19:49] <Y2Kay> I need a cheapo (small size) software that will redial to my isp when I'm disconnected, just a simple redialer
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[02 Jan/19:49] <Y2Kay> for win98
[02 Jan/19:51] ! endo|away is known as endorphin
[02 Jan/19:52] <Azmodan> got to www.winfiles.com or www.tucos.com
[02 Jan/19:52] <Y2Kay> which file?
[02 Jan/19:52] <Azmodan> you'll find free dialers there ;-)
[02 Jan/19:52] <Y2Kay> or download.com
[02 Jan/19:52] <Azmodan> they both have search otpions, I suggest you use them
[02 Jan/19:52] <Y2Kay> which one is smallest, taht YOU use?
[02 Jan/19:52] <Y2Kay> all of them come with fancy schmancy options
[02 Jan/19:52] <Azmodan> I don't use one sorry
[02 Jan/19:52] <Y2Kay> I want a base level redialer that redials only
[02 Jan/19:53] <Azmodan> can't help you sorry
[02 Jan/19:53] <Y2Kay> no?
[02 Jan/19:53] <Y2Kay> must be on cable
[02 Jan/19:53] <Y2Kay> sigh
[02 Jan/19:53] <Y2Kay> :(
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[02 Jan/20:10] <whizd> hey!
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[02 Jan/20:26] <nhobody> im having a big problem
[02 Jan/20:28] ! Kid is known as KidLinux
[02 Jan/20:28] <nhobody> when I run some stuff like aol or netzero to get on the web, it starts connecting, then sometime during the connection my puter completly freezes up, the power off button on the case doesen't even respond so I have to unplug it, anyone know what to tweak so it doesent lock up?
[02 Jan/20:31] <Deton8R> -up
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[02 Jan/20:31] <nhobody> up what
[02 Jan/20:31] <nhobody> ?
[02 Jan/20:32] <Deton8R> nada
[02 Jan/20:32] <nhobody> can you help w/my problem?
[02 Jan/20:32] <Deton8R> well, I can try
[02 Jan/20:33] <nhobody> when I run aol or netzero to get on the web, it starts connecting, then sometime during the connection my puter completly freezes up, the power off button on the case doesen't even respond so I have to unplug it,know what to tweak so it doesent lock up?
[02 Jan/20:34] <Deton8R> sounds like either your modem or tcp/ip is hosed
[02 Jan/20:34] <Deton8R> most likely drivers
[02 Jan/20:35] <nhobody> yea, I tried 3 different drivers
[02 Jan/20:35] <Deton8R> alright....have you done anything yet to try to fix it?
[02 Jan/20:35] <Deton8R> k
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[02 Jan/20:36] <nhobody> yea, before my computer would either reboot or lock up (but i could still turn it off) i messed with the i/o and finaly had to reinstall windows, now it works like I just described
[02 Jan/20:36] <Deton8R> so you've tried different drivers for your modem....
[02 Jan/20:36] <nhobody> havent tried anything for the new prob tho
[02 Jan/20:36] <nhobody> yea 3 drivers
[02 Jan/20:36] <Deton8R> alright....and new drivers didn't do anything differently
[02 Jan/20:37] <Deton8R> did you format before you did the reinstall?
[02 Jan/20:37] <Deton8R> or just overinstall
[02 Jan/20:37] <nhobody> the first driver reset my computer, the second two locked it up (before I reinstalled windows)
[02 Jan/20:37] <nhobody> overinstall
[02 Jan/20:38] <Deton8R> considering that you got varied results from different drivers, I really have to ask you if you're 100% certain that those drivers are correct for your modem
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[02 Jan/20:39] <nhobody> 1 came from the cd packaged w/modem, 1 from the manufactures website and 1 off win98 disk
[02 Jan/20:39] <Deton8R> what modem is this?
[02 Jan/20:39] <Deton8R> pci?
[02 Jan/20:39] <w98> pci is (Peripheral Connect Interface) This interface was designed to supplant the VL-Bus architecture and provide a standard slot with a reduced size for high-speed peripherals. It normally runs at 33 MHz on a PC, but can run faster. PCI slots are 32-bit slots, like EISA or VL-BUS, but in a compact form factor.
[02 Jan/20:40] <Deton8R> -kb w98
[02 Jan/20:40] @ mode #win98 [+b *!*azmodan@*.compinet.com] by LifeBlood!azmodan@phi.compinet.com
[02 Jan/20:40] < w98!azmodan@phi.compinet.com was kicked off #win98 by LifeBlood!azmodan@phi.compinet.com (LifeBlood)
[02 Jan/20:40] <Azmodan> det
[02 Jan/20:40] <Deton8R> yes?
[02 Jan/20:40] <Azmodan> what on earth was that for
[02 Jan/20:40] <Deton8R> -unban w98
[02 Jan/20:40] @ mode #win98 [-b *!*azmodan@*.compinet.com] by LifeBlood!azmodan@phi.compinet.com
[02 Jan/20:40] <Deton8R> hehe
[02 Jan/20:40] <nhobody> a pci plug and play 56k modem made by phobes micro
[02 Jan/20:40] <Deton8R> thought so
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[02 Jan/20:41] <Deton8R> alright...try this
[02 Jan/20:41] <Deton8R> uninstall the modem
[02 Jan/20:41] <Deton8R> turn off the system
[02 Jan/20:42] <Deton8R> physically remove it and restart the system
[02 Jan/20:42] <Deton8R> make SURE all the drivers have been uninstalled
[02 Jan/20:42] <Deton8R> shut down normally
[02 Jan/20:42] <Deton8R> put the modem back in...in A DIFFERENT pci slot
[02 Jan/20:42] <Deton8R> then install the drivers that came with it
[02 Jan/20:43] <nhobody> ok, i moved it before but dident boot up in between
[02 Jan/20:43] <nhobody> ill go try that, be back in a few mins
[02 Jan/20:43] <Deton8R> well, you should make 100% certain that the modem drivers are gone
[02 Jan/20:43] <Deton8R> pci modems use some freaky drivers
[02 Jan/20:44] <nhobody> yea, i should just get an external
[02 Jan/20:45] <Deton8R> they're simpler
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[02 Jan/20:45] <Deton8R> and more reliable
[02 Jan/20:45] <pyrokiwi> hiyas
[02 Jan/20:45] <pyrokiwi> ok nothin happening here i think ill go do something else
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[02 Jan/20:49] <devilDigg> hi all
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[02 Jan/21:00] <nhobody> i did as you said and it still dident work
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[02 Jan/21:00] <nhobody> why did he have to quit now
[02 Jan/21:01] <nhobody> now ill never get my puter up and running right
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[02 Jan/21:02] <nhobody> oh well c-ya all
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[02 Jan/21:07] <Tgenial99> hello!
[02 Jan/21:07] <Tgenial99> i need help
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[02 Jan/21:08] <Tgenial99> i need a prog that can restore the master boot record
[02 Jan/21:08] <Tgenial99> can ne1 help me?
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[02 Jan/21:25] <Cat`Woman> if you already had norton it could do it
[02 Jan/21:25] <Cat`Woman> but if you don't then i don't know
[02 Jan/21:25] <Azmodan> fdisk /mbr
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[02 Jan/21:28] <Tgenial99> thx azmodan
[02 Jan/21:30] <Azmodan> np
[02 Jan/21:30] <Tgenial99> thx allot
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[02 Jan/21:30] <Azmodan> :o)
[02 Jan/21:30] <Tgenial99> it realy help
[02 Jan/21:30] <Azmodan> glad to here
[02 Jan/21:31] <Tgenial99> got to go
[02 Jan/21:31] <Tgenial99> by and thx again :))))))
[02 Jan/21:31] <pyrokiwi> sya
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[02 Jan/21:31] <Azmodan> bye
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[02 Jan/21:52] <Viperz> how to i turn off ! no more space on harddisk ! it bugs me ! i have 2GB !
[02 Jan/21:52] <pyrokiwi> wat?
[02 Jan/21:53] <Viperz> if u copy someting to my harddisk ! a screen sas that i don´t have harddisk space left !
[02 Jan/21:53] <Viperz> but i have 2GB
[02 Jan/21:53] <pyrokiwi> left?
[02 Jan/21:54] <pyrokiwi> how do u know?
[02 Jan/21:54] <Viperz> yes
[02 Jan/21:54] <pyrokiwi> how do u know?
[02 Jan/21:54] <pyrokiwi> did windows explorer tell u?
[02 Jan/21:54] <Viperz> i look in Explorer
[02 Jan/21:54] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm
[02 Jan/21:54] <pyrokiwi> wat did u copy?
[02 Jan/21:54] <Viperz> or on the other dirve i have 800 left and the same thing
[02 Jan/21:55] <pyrokiwi> wat u trying to copy?
[02 Jan/21:55] <pyrokiwi> also wat drives configuration eg scsi u got?
[02 Jan/21:55] <Viperz> a CD-image ! (CD-Copy) or just a file !
[02 Jan/21:55] <Viperz> IDE
[02 Jan/21:55] <pyrokiwi> anyfile?
[02 Jan/21:55] <Viperz> yes
[02 Jan/21:55] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm
[02 Jan/21:56] <pyrokiwi> that is strange
[02 Jan/21:56] <Viperz> yes very
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[02 Jan/21:56] <pyrokiwi> wait up let me think
[02 Jan/21:56] <Viperz> and im relly mad att my windows now ! it bugs me !
[02 Jan/21:56] <Viperz> ok
[02 Jan/21:56] <Viperz> thankz
[02 Jan/21:56] <pyrokiwi> u go to windows explorer and it says?
[02 Jan/21:57] <pyrokiwi> what does explorer say?
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[02 Jan/21:57] <Viperz> the screen pupps up
[02 Jan/21:57] <pyrokiwi> nonono where it says file space wat does it say?
[02 Jan/21:58] <Viperz> Left 1,8GB
[02 Jan/21:58] <pyrokiwi> where does it say left?
[02 Jan/21:58] <pyrokiwi> u got win98?
[02 Jan/21:59] <pyrokiwi> also u using my computer or windows explorer
[02 Jan/21:59] <pyrokiwi> and what size hdrive
[02 Jan/21:59] <Viperz> win98se
[02 Jan/21:59] <Viperz> expl
[02 Jan/21:59] <Viperz> 5GB
[02 Jan/21:59] <pyrokiwi> hmm that is funny
[02 Jan/21:59] <pyrokiwi> tried copy/creat file in dos?
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[02 Jan/22:01] <pyrokiwi> >?<
[02 Jan/22:01] <Viperz> im copying
[02 Jan/22:02] <pyrokiwi> is it only that file?
[02 Jan/22:03] <pyrokiwi> and what cd image u copying?
[02 Jan/22:03] <Viperz> no ! i pupps up
[02 Jan/22:04] <pyrokiwi> ok is it only that file?
[02 Jan/22:04] <Viperz> all file
[02 Jan/22:04] <pyrokiwi> can u do in dos?
[02 Jan/22:04] <Viperz> but i try whit
[02 Jan/22:04] <Viperz> yes
[02 Jan/22:04] <Viperz> dir
[02 Jan/22:04] <Viperz> copy
[02 Jan/22:04] <Viperz> cd..
[02 Jan/22:04] <pyrokiwi> so dos works?
[02 Jan/22:04] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm
[02 Jan/22:05] <pyrokiwi> does that diskspace thingy work?
[02 Jan/22:05] <Viperz> yes but not to copy ! it like explorere
[02 Jan/22:05] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm
[02 Jan/22:06] <Viperz> i whant to turn off the drive space ! cheaker
[02 Jan/22:06] <pyrokiwi> what does start-run-acceries-systemtools-drivespace- say?
[02 Jan/22:07] <pyrokiwi> ahha i know what
[02 Jan/22:07] <pyrokiwi> hav u run scandisk ?
[02 Jan/22:07] <Viperz> yes
[02 Jan/22:07] <Viperz> and defrag
[02 Jan/22:07] <pyrokiwi> through?
[02 Jan/22:07] <Viperz> ok
[02 Jan/22:07] <pyrokiwi> only if u want otherwise Azmodan u here>?
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[02 Jan/22:08] <pyrokiwi> hmmm thatl take a while
[02 Jan/22:08] <pyrokiwi> did this suddenly happen?
[02 Jan/22:08] <pyrokiwi> actually
[02 Jan/22:08] <pyrokiwi> who set up the hdrive?
[02 Jan/22:08] <Viperz> no somedays ago
[02 Jan/22:08] <Viperz> setup ?
[02 Jan/22:08] <Viperz> i have 2
[02 Jan/22:09] <Viperz> one master one slave
[02 Jan/22:09] <Viperz> on irmary
[02 Jan/22:09] <Viperz> onprimary
[02 Jan/22:09] <pyrokiwi> yeh but who set them up in bios?
[02 Jan/22:09] <Viperz> auto
[02 Jan/22:09] <pyrokiwi> hmmm hav u still got the settings from the hdrive
[02 Jan/22:10] <pyrokiwi> u might want to try manually inputting cylinders etc
[02 Jan/22:10] <Viperz> and this it new ! i format my harddisk and ! thid started
[02 Jan/22:10] <pyrokiwi> hmmm ok that is different then
[02 Jan/22:10] <pyrokiwi> when u formatted it how did u do it?
[02 Jan/22:11] <Viperz> format c: /q in dos mode
[02 Jan/22:11] <pyrokiwi> sorry /q is?
[02 Jan/22:11] <Viperz> quick
[02 Jan/22:11] <pyrokiwi> hmmm what does quick make it do
[02 Jan/22:11] <pyrokiwi> that may have caused error
[02 Jan/22:12] <Viperz> it a quick fromat
[02 Jan/22:12] <Viperz> no
[02 Jan/22:12] <Viperz> i done i a millons of times
[02 Jan/22:12] <pyrokiwi> on that hdrive>?
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[02 Jan/22:13] <Viperz> yes
[02 Jan/22:13] <pyrokiwi> hmmm
[02 Jan/22:13] <pyrokiwi> is it fat32?
[02 Jan/22:13] <Viperz> it like when u quick formate a froppy disk
[02 Jan/22:13] <Viperz> yes
[02 Jan/22:13] <Viperz> fat 23
[02 Jan/22:13] <pyrokiwi> oh i think quick just deletes files
[02 Jan/22:14] <pyrokiwi> doesnt actually format
[02 Jan/22:14] <pyrokiwi> if i was u i would properly format i think
[02 Jan/22:14] <pyrokiwi> or else run through scandisk
[02 Jan/22:14] <pyrokiwi> or come back when some other ppl are here
[02 Jan/22:14] <pyrokiwi> or ring the place that sold ya the hdrive
[02 Jan/22:15] <Viperz> but i have to change some thing so i don´t pup up ! ok if the screen comes when i have like 100MG
[02 Jan/22:15] <Viperz> MB
[02 Jan/22:15] <Viperz> that ok
[02 Jan/22:15] <Viperz> but not on 2GB
[02 Jan/22:15] <Viperz> and i trun off tha trash can 2
[02 Jan/22:16] <pyrokiwi> it may be that when u formatted it wrecked some of the file arcitechure on the disl thus it thinks there is so much space but only some of it is available
[02 Jan/22:17] <Viperz> ok ! i have 2 live whit it
[02 Jan/22:17] <Viperz> Thankz
[02 Jan/22:17] <Viperz> i have to run
[02 Jan/22:17] <Viperz> take care
[02 Jan/22:17] <Viperz> :)
[02 Jan/22:17] <pyrokiwi> ok syas
[02 Jan/22:18] <Viperz> and thankz
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[02 Jan/22:19] <pyrokiwi> ok az u better not b here 
[02 Jan/22:19] <pyrokiwi> cause if u are i will get mad
[02 Jan/22:20] <pyrokiwi> sya ppls im bored
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[02 Jan/22:21] <Cat`Woman> `voice cat`woman
[02 Jan/22:21] @ mode #win98 [+v Cat`Woman] by Aphrodite!stoner@207.178.66.22
[02 Jan/22:21] <dragonxj> Anyone using a cablemodem?
[02 Jan/22:21] <pyrokiwi> now she comes
[02 Jan/22:21] <Cat`Woman> `voice osbourne
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[02 Jan/22:21] <Cat`Woman> `voice pyrokiwi
[02 Jan/22:21] @ mode #win98 [+v pyrokiwi] by Aphrodite!stoner@207.178.66.22
[02 Jan/22:21] <Cat`Woman> yes dragonxj
[02 Jan/22:21] <Cat`Woman> sup pyro?
[02 Jan/22:22] <pyrokiwi> nothin just tried to help a guy
[02 Jan/22:22] <dragonxj> i could assume somethings up with my host when pics are not loading up when I go to web sites?
[02 Jan/22:22] <pyrokiwi> said win exploer said 1.8gig free
[02 Jan/22:22] <pyrokiwi> but whenever copy any file come up with error saying no space
[02 Jan/22:22] <Cat`Woman> yes... look at your security in Internet exploerer first though... sometimes that will be set too high
[02 Jan/22:22] <Cat`Woman> (happend to me once)
[02 Jan/22:22] <dragonxj> okie doke
[02 Jan/22:23] <Cat`Woman> pyro... sure about the partitions?
[02 Jan/22:23] <pyrokiwi> hmmm 
[02 Jan/22:23] <pyrokiwi> he reckoned 2 hdrives
[02 Jan/22:23] <dragonxj> hm, seems to be set at medium
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[02 Jan/22:23] <pyrokiwi> i think the prob was he said he always does quick format 
[02 Jan/22:25] <Cat`Woman> well that is never good
[02 Jan/22:25] <dragonxj> if i click show picture...den it shows up  =(
[02 Jan/22:25] <Cat`Woman> set it at low
[02 Jan/22:25] <Cat`Woman> then it should come up everytime
[02 Jan/22:25] <pyrokiwi> no i reckon the file architecture was busted
[02 Jan/22:26] <Cat`Woman> well, fdisk and a format would fix it
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[02 Jan/22:26] <pyrokiwi> hmmm i basic told him that
[02 Jan/22:26] <Cat`Woman> but first I would do a good defrag and he should be fine temporarily
[02 Jan/22:26] <pyrokiwi> i also told him to do a through scan
[02 Jan/22:26] <pyrokiwi> in scandisk
[02 Jan/22:26] <dragonxj> hm, not showing up after setting to low as well
[02 Jan/22:26] <pyrokiwi> he reckoned he had defragged
[02 Jan/22:27] <pyrokiwi> yo Deton8R
[02 Jan/22:27] <pyrokiwi> he was blabbing stuff bout cdimages as well
[02 Jan/22:28] <pyrokiwi> ok im bored sya ppls
[02 Jan/22:28] <pyrokiwi> sya all laterz
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[02 Jan/22:33] <Jackal00> I need some help !!
[02 Jan/22:33] <Deton8R> Please state the nature of the Windows98 emergency.
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[02 Jan/22:34] <Jackal00> Does anybody have ICQ 99a v 2.22 ???  Mine 99b is not working on my system
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[02 Jan/23:30] <WaTeRrY> ne1 know how i can schedule win98 to shutdown at a certain time?
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[02 Jan/23:58] <_Socrates> hi, i get this message /run command disabled 
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[03 Jan/00:00] <_Socrates> when i run it in here...anyone?
[03 Jan/00:01] <_Socrates> hello? 
[03 Jan/00:01] <_Socrates> well. so much for the help..bye
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[03 Jan/01:21] <loc0> how do i rename my recycle bin? i remember renaming it before by doing something in the registry
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[03 Jan/02:02] <SpuD> Can somebody help me?
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[03 Jan/02:13] <SpuD> Can somebody help me?
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[03 Jan/02:23] <FultarX> anyone know where I can find newsgroups with info of Athlon and win98 complications?
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[03 Jan/02:29] <Greedyfly> hi people, what does the TR light mean on the modem?
[03 Jan/02:32] <Greedyfly> ok.. why does it come on and stay on when I do a modem detect with win98?
[03 Jan/02:34] <FultarX> wha?
[03 Jan/02:34] <FultarX> tr light?
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[03 Jan/02:35] <Greedyfly> yeah 
[03 Jan/02:35] <Greedyfly> you know, you have MR TR CD SD RD HS AA OH
[03 Jan/02:41] <FultarX> oh yeah
[03 Jan/02:41] <FultarX> hold on
[03 Jan/02:42] <FultarX> transfer maybe?
[03 Jan/02:42] <FultarX> you need to see "cj"
[03 Jan/02:43] <FultarX> but he is not here right now
[03 Jan/02:43] <FultarX> he is the man
[03 Jan/02:45] <Greedyfly> oh ok, ta
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[03 Jan/04:08] <Elysian> hi
[03 Jan/04:11] <Elysian> `up
[03 Jan/04:11] @ mode #win98 [+o Elysian] by Aphrodite!stoner@207.178.66.22
[03 Jan/04:11] <Elysian> @find
[03 Jan/04:11] <Elysian> !find
[03 Jan/04:11] <Elysian> !find win98
[03 Jan/04:11] <Elysian> @find win98
[03 Jan/04:11] <Elysian> hmm...
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[03 Jan/04:14] <Elysian> `up
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[03 Jan/05:35] <blingdawg> I need windows 98 Seccond Edition, Anyone know of an ftp site that i can get it from?
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[03 Jan/05:48] <Wim> Hi
[03 Jan/05:50] <apold> anyone know where i can fin "98lite Professional" ??
[03 Jan/05:51] <Wim> can somebody help me with a network socket problem?
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[03 Jan/06:16] <fogfoe> anyone here?
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[03 Jan/06:22] <Smp3> anyone in?
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[03 Jan/06:37] > |||Acid||!FedogHjem@mp-217-230-94.daxnet.no has joined #win98
[03 Jan/06:37] <|||Acid||> i need the files WSCAN.EXE and MSREXE.EXE located in the windows dir,anyone got 'em ?? Please /msg,it's urgent §!!!!!!!
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[03 Jan/06:38] <CJ^> ACID...  you have them
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[03 Jan/06:39] <|||Acid||> --=( CJ^ )=--: nope,a friend of mine was hiy by a backdoor wirus that killed them (I've got win98 se)
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[03 Jan/06:39] <CJ^> um  scuse me  even i dont have them
[03 Jan/06:39] <CJ^> looks like that WAS the backdoor virus
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[03 Jan/06:40] <|||Acid||> huh?
[03 Jan/06:40] <CJ^> those files...
[03 Jan/06:40] <CJ^> that was the trojan
[03 Jan/06:40] <|||Acid||> they are trojans ?
[03 Jan/06:40] <EL_DIABL0> any1 can tell me how to configure winroute administrator ??
[03 Jan/06:41] <EL_DIABL0> i have 2 pc's with enthernet cards
[03 Jan/06:41] <|||Acid||> --=( CJ^ )=--: are you running win98 se or just plain win98 ?
[03 Jan/06:41] <EL_DIABL0> yea win98
[03 Jan/06:41] <|||Acid||> cj^
[03 Jan/06:41] <EL_DIABL0> please help
[03 Jan/06:41] <CJ^> ACID i have both
[03 Jan/06:42] <CJ^> those files are nto 98/98se files
[03 Jan/06:42] <|||Acid||> CJ^:Can I have them please ?
[03 Jan/06:42] <CJ^> ACID  i dont have them  
[03 Jan/06:42] <EL_DIABL0> any1 can tell me how to configure winroute administrator ??
[03 Jan/06:42] <CJ^> they are NOT win98/98se files
[03 Jan/06:42] <CJ^> those WERE the trojan files
[03 Jan/06:42] <EL_DIABL0> any1 can tell me how to configure winroute administrator ??
[03 Jan/06:42] <|||Acid||> ok..how do you know ?
[03 Jan/06:43] <CJ^> caused i jsut checked both my systems...
[03 Jan/06:43] <CJ^> those files are not there..
[03 Jan/06:43] <CJ^> ALSO...
[03 Jan/06:43] <CJ^> most trojans make fules similar to those.. and when deleted  crippl the system
[03 Jan/06:43] <CJ^> check deja.com for them    i bet you will find out that im correct
[03 Jan/06:44] <|||Acid||> ok,thanks dude
[03 Jan/06:44] <|||Acid||> what's "fules" ?
[03 Jan/06:45] <CJ^> er files
[03 Jan/06:45] <CJ^> sorry
[03 Jan/06:45] <|||Acid||> ok
[03 Jan/06:45] <CJ^> Sub 7 does somethign similar
[03 Jan/06:46] <CJ^> `op
[03 Jan/06:46] * |||Acid|| tries to op CJ^ as a thanks for the help
[03 Jan/06:46] <|||Acid||> damn,doesn't work
[03 Jan/06:46] <CJ^> naah
[03 Jan/06:47] <CJ^> the bots are all funky again....
[03 Jan/06:47] <EL_DIABL0> any1 can tell me how to configure winroute administrator ??
[03 Jan/06:47] <CJ^> `op
[03 Jan/06:47] <|||Acid||> --=( CJ^ )=--: any advice on what I can do do fix it ?
[03 Jan/06:47] <CJ^> El_Diablo.. sorry  i dont use it.. so i cant help ya there...
[03 Jan/06:48] <CJ^> ACID  deja.com has had some good answers for ppl whenthey get hit with this...
[03 Jan/06:48] <EL_DIABL0> but what do u use?
[03 Jan/06:48] <CJ^> usually it involves reg hacking to get it all back together..
[03 Jan/06:48] <CJ^> BUT  if you deleted those files... you may eb looking at a total re-install..
[03 Jan/06:48] <|||Acid||> --=( CJ^ )=--: I checked that page,didn't help..
[03 Jan/06:49] <|||Acid||> damn...his virus proggy deleted those files
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[03 Jan/06:49] <CJ^> lemme look for ya
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[03 Jan/06:49] <EL_DIABL0> bag pula in voi
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[03 Jan/06:49] <RainMan>  i need the files WSCAN.EXE and MSREXE.EXE located in the windows dir
[03 Jan/06:50] <CJ^> ?
[03 Jan/06:50] <|||Acid||> I gtg ppl
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[03 Jan/06:50] <nrvous> anyone help me?
[03 Jan/06:50] <CJ^> Rain.. those files were from a virus...
[03 Jan/06:51] <RainMan> but my win98.ini when it starts up asks for them 
[03 Jan/06:51] <|||Acid||> CJ^:Please talk to rainman,he's the one I was helping :)
[03 Jan/06:51] <RainMan> hehe
[03 Jan/06:51] <nrvous> anyone can help me?
[03 Jan/06:51] <CJ^> nrvous  what ?
[03 Jan/06:51] <|||Acid||> l8er all
[03 Jan/06:51] <RainMan> wow im all multicolored and very slow now 
[03 Jan/06:51] <CJ^> Rain.. sorry dude... those files were the virus...
[03 Jan/06:51] < SignOff: |||Acid||!FedogHjem@mp-217-230-94.daxnet.no (I'm using DeStRuCtIoN ScRiPt by |||Acid||,get it at http://members.xoom.com/Fedog/Welcome.htm)
[03 Jan/06:52] <nrvous> i lost my code for windows
[03 Jan/06:52] <RainMan> yikes
[03 Jan/06:52] <RainMan> so what do i do then
[03 Jan/06:52] <CJ^> sorry nrvous.. cant help you  no product codes...
[03 Jan/06:52] <CJ^> ok  do a search on deja.com  for  MSREXE.EXE   and read.... then cry if you have to...
[03 Jan/06:52] <CJ^> im there.. it aint pretty
[03 Jan/06:53] <nrvous> can i find find this code in my system??
[03 Jan/06:53] <RainMan> eek
[03 Jan/06:53] <CJ^> yes nrvous
[03 Jan/06:53] <CJ^> in the registry
[03 Jan/06:53] <RainMan> well i was gonna upgrade soon anyways
[03 Jan/06:53] <nrvous> where?
[03 Jan/06:53] <nrvous> how can i get there?
[03 Jan/06:54] <CJ^> regedit
[03 Jan/06:54] <CJ^> start>run>regedit
[03 Jan/06:54] < SignOff: W!cservice@undernet.org (ERROR: Received SIGSEGV :()
[03 Jan/06:55] <RainMan> ahh fackers
[03 Jan/06:57] <CJ^> sucsk  yeah i know...
[03 Jan/06:58] <nrvous> IDENTITIES?
[03 Jan/06:58] <RainMan> they say i can just delete the file and edit out the line of code in the win.ini but how do i do it
[03 Jan/07:00] <CJ^> sysedit
[03 Jan/07:00] <CJ^> start>run>sysedit
[03 Jan/07:00] <CJ^> edit the win.ini
[03 Jan/07:00] <RainMan> can you guide me through it?
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[03 Jan/07:01] <CJ^> well i can try  BUT i dont know what linein teh win.ini  yer lookign for exactly..
[03 Jan/07:01] <CJ^> nrvous...  hold on
[03 Jan/07:01] <nrvous> okay
[03 Jan/07:01] <RainMan>  i need the files WSCAN.EXE and MSREXE.EXE located in the windows dir
[03 Jan/07:01] <RainMan> oops
[03 Jan/07:01] <RainMan> sorry
[03 Jan/07:01] <RainMan> > > > > under..HKEY_USERS\Default\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current
[03 Jan/07:01] <RainMan> > > > > Version\Explorer\Doc Find MRU and this has the same settings as
[03 Jan/07:01] <RainMan> that one
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[03 Jan/07:02] <CJ^> oh  thats the reg 
[03 Jan/07:02] <RainMan> go to 
[03 Jan/07:02] <RainMan> http://x38.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=562921210.2&CONTEXT=946835594.2081816624&hitnum=18
[03 Jan/07:02] <RainMan> then youll be able to help me
[03 Jan/07:04] <nrvous> CJ?
[03 Jan/07:04] <CJ^> nrvous  HKLM/software/microsoft/windows/currentversion/
[03 Jan/07:04] <CJ^> Rain  they are talking about going in the registry
[03 Jan/07:04] ! coolz is known as `grid
[03 Jan/07:04] <nrvous> oki
[03 Jan/07:04] <RainMan> how about you just send me your win.ini that should do it right?
[03 Jan/07:04] <CJ^> HKEY_USERS\Default\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current  <<< open up regedit  and goto that key
[03 Jan/07:05] <CJ^> no rain.. it wouldnt
[03 Jan/07:05] <RainMan> why not :(
[03 Jan/07:05] <The-Bot> visit http://members.vavo.com/connection
[03 Jan/07:06] <CJ^> cause  my win.ini was made for my system...
[03 Jan/07:06] <CJ^> its nto set up for yours...
[03 Jan/07:07] <CJ^> `op
[03 Jan/07:07] <nrvous> HKLM/software/microsoft/windows/currentversion/ and after?
[03 Jan/07:07] <CJ^> nrvous  in there  look for Product Key
[03 Jan/07:07] <CJ^> thats YOUR key
[03 Jan/07:07] <CJ^> write it down
[03 Jan/07:07] <CJ^> keep it
[03 Jan/07:07] <CJ^> dont loose it again
[03 Jan/07:07] <nrvous> thanx 
[03 Jan/07:08] <CJ^> np
[03 Jan/07:08] <RainMan> HKEY_USERS\Default\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current and after?
[03 Jan/07:10] <RainMan> ok im at HKEY_USERS\Default\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current\Explorer and then theres a DocFindColsX and a DocFindLastLookIn .... now what
[03 Jan/07:10] <CJ^> ok  lemme look at this...
[03 Jan/07:11] <CJ^> grrr deja.com is timing out on me.. grrrrr
[03 Jan/07:11] <RainMan> if i right click on the DocFindLastLookIn and say modify... it wont do anything bad will it? it will only do something if i actually change the coding>
[03 Jan/07:12] <Elysian> hi
[03 Jan/07:12] <CJ^> right
[03 Jan/07:12] <CJ^> only if you save it
[03 Jan/07:12] <Elysian> just got back from church
[03 Jan/07:12] <CJ^> hey Ely...
[03 Jan/07:12] <RainMan> bah this sux :(
[03 Jan/07:12] <CJ^> i know  i know..
[03 Jan/07:12] <CJ^> dangit  deja.com is timing out  i cant even get there to read the info anymore... grrrrrrrrrrrr
[03 Jan/07:13] <RainMan> ya there timing out on me too
[03 Jan/07:13] <RainMan> man i cant wait till my mom heres about this lol
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[03 Jan/07:13] <CJ^> accepted a file from a "friend" did ya?
[03 Jan/07:13] <RainMan> nono
[03 Jan/07:14] <Elysian> ?
[03 Jan/07:14] <RainMan> i think it was netbus
[03 Jan/07:14] <RainMan> i havent downloaded anythign in a couple of months
[03 Jan/07:14] <CJ^> might have been..
[03 Jan/07:14] <CJ^> or one of the variants
[03 Jan/07:14] <Elysian> what is The-Bot?
[03 Jan/07:14] <Venim> when is disabled l2 Cache the cpu starts up, when enabled it won't boot up, what iswrong
[03 Jan/07:14] <Venim> when is disabled l2 Cache the cpu starts up, when enabled it won't boot up, what iswrong
[03 Jan/07:14] <RainMan> OK i think i know what to do
[03 Jan/07:15] <Elysian> venim: are you overclocking?
[03 Jan/07:15] <Elysian> and what processor?
[03 Jan/07:15] <Venim> no , i ain't
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[03 Jan/07:15] <Venim> Cyrix 166+
[03 Jan/07:15] <Elysian> hi ed
[03 Jan/07:15] <Elysian> eww
[03 Jan/07:15] <Elysian> thats probly why
[03 Jan/07:15] <Venim> ????
[03 Jan/07:15] <Big`Ed> hola!
[03 Jan/07:16] <Elysian> i wouldn't mess with it.... it probly doesn't have l2...
[03 Jan/07:16] @ mode #win98 [+o Big`Ed] by Mandy!biged98@chat.eskimo.com
[03 Jan/07:16] <CJ^> the Cyrix cant handle teh usage of L2 cache enabed in some BIOS's
[03 Jan/07:16] <RainMan> CJ^ im in my win.ini and i see the coding that says [windows]
[03 Jan/07:16] <RainMan> load=Wscan.exe
[03 Jan/07:16] <RainMan> run=
[03 Jan/07:16] <RainMan> NullPort=None
[03 Jan/07:16] <RainMan> device=EPSON Stylus COLOR 400,EPS400,LPT1:
[03 Jan/07:16] <RainMan> DosPrint=no
[03 Jan/07:16] <RainMan> should i delete it?
[03 Jan/07:17] <CJ^> Rain.. i would folow the instructios of whats printed at deja.com
[03 Jan/07:17] <RainMan> where
[03 Jan/07:17] <Elysian> brb... gotta call into work
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[03 Jan/07:17] <CJ^> since i didnt  read it all..
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[03 Jan/07:17] <CJ^> i cant reall advise you correctly..
[03 Jan/07:17] <CJ^> argg
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[03 Jan/07:17] <RainMan> where does it say on deja.com what to do
[03 Jan/07:17] <CJ^> can anyone else get to deja.com?????????
[03 Jan/07:17] <CJ^> Rain...  thats where im looking too..
[03 Jan/07:17] <Big`Ed> testing CJ^
[03 Jan/07:18] <CJ^> when i was there... I saw postings about it..
[03 Jan/07:18] <CJ^> and how to remove it...
[03 Jan/07:18] <Big`Ed> looks down
[03 Jan/07:18] <CJ^> yeap
[03 Jan/07:18] <CJ^> shooooot..
[03 Jan/07:18] <RainMan> im gonna reboot and see if anything happens
[03 Jan/07:18] <CJ^> cant help ya then Rain.. not properly at least...
[03 Jan/07:18] <RainMan> wish me luck
[03 Jan/07:18] <CJ^> :)
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[03 Jan/07:22] <The-Bot> checkout http://home14.inet.tele.dk/computer
[03 Jan/07:23] <Big`Ed> why?
[03 Jan/07:23] <Big`Ed> so you can advertise YOUR channel on this one?
[03 Jan/07:24] <CJ^> Marc....
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[03 Jan/07:24] <CJ^> dont msg me 
[03 Jan/07:24] <CJ^> ask in channell..
[03 Jan/07:24] <Marc> I did but nobody reply and its rather complicated
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[03 Jan/07:25] * Big`Ed has not seen a channel post form Marc for 10 minutes
[03 Jan/07:27] <Marc> here it is again then, I can connect to my ISP but when I open Agent, IE or Eudora, I get a WSAE error 
[03 Jan/07:28] <Big`Ed> hmmm
[03 Jan/07:28] <Big`Ed> no other message?
[03 Jan/07:28] <Marc> or in Netscape it says Unable to create a netywork socket connetction
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[03 Jan/07:29] <Big`Ed> well - WSAE is not a microsoft acronym
[03 Jan/07:29] <Big`Ed> sounds like your dial-up is toast - what software are you using?
[03 Jan/07:29] <Marc> Win98 SE
[03 Jan/07:30] <Big`Ed> and what are you using to connect to your ISP?
[03 Jan/07:30] <Marc> you mean my modem?
[03 Jan/07:30] <Big`Ed> what software to dial into your ISP
[03 Jan/07:31] <Marc> okay so aftezr I made the conection,
[03 Jan/07:31] <Marc> Agent for newsgroups
[03 Jan/07:31] <Big`Ed> what software are you using to MAKE the connection?
[03 Jan/07:31] <Big`Ed> hello?
[03 Jan/07:32] <Marc> I'm using WIN98, 
[03 Jan/07:32] <CJ^> WIn98SE DUN?
[03 Jan/07:32] <CJ^> doesnt soudn like a win98 se dun issue to me...
[03 Jan/07:32] <CJ^> sounds liek a third party app issue..
[03 Jan/07:32] <Big`Ed> does interenet explorer 5.0 work to browse the web?
[03 Jan/07:32] <Marc> NO
[03 Jan/07:32] <Big`Ed> no what?
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[03 Jan/07:32] <Big`Ed> wb Elysian1
[03 Jan/07:32] <Elysian1> hmm
[03 Jan/07:33] <Marc> so I'm online no at friends computer
[03 Jan/07:33] <Elysian1> tryin to figure out why my nick is taken
[03 Jan/07:33] <Elysian1> doh
[03 Jan/07:33] <Marc> no= now
[03 Jan/07:33] <Big`Ed> marc - so Nothing online works on your PC
[03 Jan/07:33] <Elysian1> ghost??? its been like 10 minutes
[03 Jan/07:33] <Elysian1> Elysian is ~Elysian@1Cust64.tnt5.plano.tx.da.uu.net * Elysian
[03 Jan/07:33] <Elysian1> Elysian using services1.undernet.org [206.138.230.8] Undernet Super Services
[03 Jan/07:33] <Elysian1> elysian End of /WHOIS list.
[03 Jan/07:33] <Marc> RIGHt besides making the connection with the ISP
[03 Jan/07:33] ! Elysian1 is known as Elysian
[03 Jan/07:33] <Elysian> doh
[03 Jan/07:33] <Elysian> second copy of mirc open:)
[03 Jan/07:33] <Big`Ed> marc - 2 questions then
[03 Jan/07:34] <CJ^> does your isp assign you an IP?  or do you have to plug one in manually?
[03 Jan/07:34] <Big`Ed> Marc - first - have you asked your ISP if they are having problems?
[03 Jan/07:34] <Elysian> ping me?
[03 Jan/07:34] <Big`Ed> Marc - second - did this just all the sudden stop, or did you load some software - and then it stopped?
[03 Jan/07:34] <Marc> automatecly
[03 Jan/07:34] <CJ^> *** CTCP PING reply from Elysian: 4 seconds
[03 Jan/07:35] <Elysian> cool
[03 Jan/07:35] <Big`Ed> [Elysian PING reply]: 1 seconds
[03 Jan/07:35] <Elysian> woohoo no workie today~!
[03 Jan/07:35] <Elysian> :)
[03 Jan/07:35] <Marc> after a crash and reboot it stopped to work
[03 Jan/07:35] <Big`Ed> no free icecream
[03 Jan/07:35] <Elysian> hehe
[03 Jan/07:35] <Big`Ed> Marc - and i take it you refuse to answer about calling the ISP
[03 Jan/07:36] <Elysian> come to texas and i might hook you up! doh!
[03 Jan/07:36] <Big`Ed> hehe
[03 Jan/07:36] * Big`Ed flyes through dallas in 3 weeks - be at the airport!
[03 Jan/07:36] * Elysian see's ed boarding a plain and coming to texas!
[03 Jan/07:36] <Elysian> :)
[03 Jan/07:36] <Elysian> doh
[03 Jan/07:36] <Big`Ed> hehe
[03 Jan/07:36] <Elysian> brb
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[03 Jan/07:36] <Marc> I called them thursdad and Friday but can only call them tomorow again
[03 Jan/07:37] <Big`Ed> and what did they say?
[03 Jan/07:37] <Marc> nothing, well they checked the sttings but they were all ok
[03 Jan/07:37] <Big`Ed> they had you check the settings on your PC ?
[03 Jan/07:38] <Marc> network etc
[03 Jan/07:38] * Big`Ed wonders if you got backdoored or the likes
[03 Jan/07:38] <Big`Ed> do you run any firewalls or antivirus?
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[03 Jan/07:38] <Marc> Norton ANtivirus
[03 Jan/07:39] <Big`Ed> most current DAT file from 3 days ago?
[03 Jan/07:39] <Marc> no about 7 days old
[03 Jan/07:39] <Big`Ed> (updates are on thursdays at Norton)
[03 Jan/07:39] <Big`Ed> ok - try this - 2 ideas
[03 Jan/07:39] <Big`Ed> 1st, you need to run SFC (system file checker)
[03 Jan/07:39] <Marc> I'm all ears
[03 Jan/07:40] <Big`Ed> (start - run - type in (SFC) and click enter)
[03 Jan/07:40] <Big`Ed> scan for altered system files
[03 Jan/07:40] <Marc> I did because I reinstalled WIn again today
[03 Jan/07:40] <Big`Ed> wait
[03 Jan/07:40] <Big`Ed> you just now 'reinstalled windows'
[03 Jan/07:40] <CJ^> wait a min....
[03 Jan/07:40] <Marc> yes this morning in the hope it would work again
[03 Jan/07:40] <Big`Ed> from a 'format' - or by just re-running 'setup'
[03 Jan/07:41] <Marc> rerunning
[03 Jan/07:41] <Big`Ed> k
[03 Jan/07:41] <CJ^> grrrrrrr
[03 Jan/07:41] <Big`Ed> that is not the same as running sfc
[03 Jan/07:41] <Big`Ed> go ahead CJ^
[03 Jan/07:42] <CJ^> he said it happened after a crash
[03 Jan/07:42] <CJ^> AND NOW..
[03 Jan/07:42] <CJ^> he tells us he just reinstalled..
[03 Jan/07:42] <CJ^> an APP caused this...
[03 Jan/07:42] <CJ^> NOW...
[03 Jan/07:42] <Big`Ed> yea - love when EXTRA details comes out
[03 Jan/07:42] <Marc> wait wait
[03 Jan/07:42] <CJ^> all the rerun does it re-screw up the system
[03 Jan/07:42] <Big`Ed> (and that his ISP ran him through all the dun settings)
[03 Jan/07:43] <Marc> untill wednesday everything was working fine,
[03 Jan/07:43] <Big`Ed> (in this case)
[03 Jan/07:43] <Big`Ed> `say
[03 Jan/07:43] <CJ^> ok
[03 Jan/07:43] <CJ^> and what happened wed evening???
[03 Jan/07:43] <CJ^> exactly what happened?
[03 Jan/07:43] <Marc> so it was first on Thursday, but in IE the system freezed up,
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[03 Jan/07:44] <Marc> so I rebooted, and made a connection again, only if I open, IE or Agent or Eudora I get an error;
[03 Jan/07:44] <Marc> do I list them all again?
[03 Jan/07:44] <CJ^> ok.. but what happened?
[03 Jan/07:44] <Big`Ed> (and netscrape)
[03 Jan/07:44] <CJ^> what crashed?  and what were ya doing at the time?
[03 Jan/07:45] <Marc> Internet explorer crashed, opening a page
[03 Jan/07:45] <CJ^> ok..
[03 Jan/07:45] <CJ^> what page?
[03 Jan/07:45] <CJ^> a heavy Java page???
[03 Jan/07:45] <Marc> sorry can't remeber
[03 Jan/07:45] <Marc> maybe
[03 Jan/07:45] <CJ^> ok..
[03 Jan/07:46] <CJ^> now  Ed took ya through the steps of removing all the DUn, the modem, tcp/ip  basically the network  correct?
[03 Jan/07:46] <Big`Ed> not yet
[03 Jan/07:46] <Big`Ed> thats was step two after a sfc
[03 Jan/07:46] <CJ^> okies
[03 Jan/07:46] <Marc> I have don that myself,
[03 Jan/07:46] <Big`Ed> (WSAE is NOT a windows socket thing
[03 Jan/07:47] <Marc> and the next day called my ISP and they said all my settings were okay
[03 Jan/07:47] <Marc> let me list the error messages I get; okay?
[03 Jan/07:47] <Big`Ed> you said: WSAE error
[03 Jan/07:48] <Big`Ed> that is not the truth?
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[03 Jan/07:48] <Marc> yes In AGENT it gives:
[03 Jan/07:48] <Big`Ed> thats not what you said
[03 Jan/07:48] <Marc> WSAE no support (error 10047)
[03 Jan/07:48] <Pauly> need help with harddrive partition
[03 Jan/07:48] <CJ^> what is AGENT?
[03 Jan/07:48] <Marc> newsreader from forte
[03 Jan/07:48] <Big`Ed> 0:26:49 [100]«Marc» here it is again then, I can connect to my ISP but when I open Agent, IE or Eudora, I get a WSAE error
[03 Jan/07:48] <Big`Ed> 10:27:41 ·Big`Ed· hmmm
[03 Jan/07:48] <Big`Ed> 10:28:05 ·Big`Ed· no other message?
[03 Jan/07:48] <Big`Ed> 10:28:29 [100]«Marc» or in Netscape it says Unable to create a netywork socket connetction
[03 Jan/07:48] <CJ^> Pauly....  whats the issue?
[03 Jan/07:49] <Big`Ed> (agent is a free news browser)
[03 Jan/07:49] <CJ^> ahh ok...
[03 Jan/07:49] <CJ^> dont msg pauly...
[03 Jan/07:49] <CJ^> ask in channel...
[03 Jan/07:49] <Big`Ed> Pauly - win98 questions go ahead
[03 Jan/07:49] <Pauly> sorry
[03 Jan/07:49] <Marc> let me give the Eudora message,
[03 Jan/07:49] <Big`Ed> see topic
[03 Jan/07:49] <Pauly> I have a 16 gig hardrive but it is only reading 2 gigs in win 98
[03 Jan/07:49] <Big`Ed> what is the error from IE or OUTLOOK EXPRESS
[03 Jan/07:50] <CJ^> Pauly.. ok  did you use the win98 boot disk?  and fdisk to partiton the drive?
[03 Jan/07:50] <Big`Ed> ok Pauly - is that the prob?
[03 Jan/07:50] <Pauly> I have
[03 Jan/07:50] <Marc> Error getting network address, cause host not found (error 11001)
[03 Jan/07:50] <CJ^> and does your system supposrt drives larger than 2 gigs?
[03 Jan/07:50] <Pauly> what do u mean the bio
[03 Jan/07:50] <Pauly> bios
[03 Jan/07:50] <CJ^> yes  the bios?
[03 Jan/07:51] <Pauly> I havn
[03 Jan/07:51] <CJ^> does the bios see the full size of the drive?
[03 Jan/07:51] <Pauly> I havn't
[03 Jan/07:51] <Marc> and as last in Netscape it says:
[03 Jan/07:51] <Pauly> no
[03 Jan/07:51] <CJ^> you havent checked???
[03 Jan/07:51] <CJ^> you had to....
[03 Jan/07:51] <Pauly> It is the original bios
[03 Jan/07:51] <Pauly> and it sees 2 gigs
[03 Jan/07:51] <Marc> unable to create a network socket connection.
[03 Jan/07:51] <CJ^> ok.. BUT  when you installed the hard drive.. you had to go in the bios to get it to see that anew drive was attached to the system...
[03 Jan/07:51] <Pauly> yes
[03 Jan/07:51] <CJ^> then your system cannot support drives larger that 2 gigs
[03 Jan/07:52] <Big`Ed> Marc - your total network/dialup is hosed
[03 Jan/07:52] <CJ^> its not a Win98 issue..
[03 Jan/07:52] <Big`Ed> Internet Explorer cannot open the Internet Site <URL>
[03 Jan/07:52] <Big`Ed> A connection with the server could not be established
[03 Jan/07:52] <Big`Ed> 11001 Host not found
[03 Jan/07:52] <Big`Ed> Unable to form connection to the server.
[03 Jan/07:52] <Pauly> is there any way of updating that
[03 Jan/07:52] <CJ^> there may be yes
[03 Jan/07:52] <CJ^> what motherboard do you have?
[03 Jan/07:52] <CJ^> or how old is the system.. what brand?
[03 Jan/07:52] <Pauly> I have a no name mother board
[03 Jan/07:52] <Marc> okay but I removed and reinstalled that
[03 Jan/07:52] <Pauly> Yes it is a pentium non-mmx
[03 Jan/07:52] <CJ^> ok...
[03 Jan/07:52] <CJ^> who made it?
[03 Jan/07:53] <CJ^> the system that is?
[03 Jan/07:53] <Big`Ed> marc - you deleted modem and all networking information completely from PC
[03 Jan/07:53] <Marc> yes
[03 Jan/07:53] <Pauly> Hsin-tech
[03 Jan/07:53] <CJ^> PcChips...
[03 Jan/07:53] <CJ^> ok
[03 Jan/07:53] <Pauly> Yeah 
[03 Jan/07:54] <CJ^> do you know everything that is on the motherboard??
[03 Jan/07:54] <Pauly> like
[03 Jan/07:54] <CJ^> chipset?
[03 Jan/07:54] <CJ^> all that?
[03 Jan/07:54] <Pauly> yeah it is an award
[03 Jan/07:54] <CJ^> do you knwo what they called it
[03 Jan/07:54] <CJ^> no
[03 Jan/07:54] <Big`Ed> Marc - if you have done all these things that you say you have done, your system is beyond a simple over-the-net repair then
[03 Jan/07:54] <Pauly> award bios
[03 Jan/07:54] <Pauly> OPti-viper
[03 Jan/07:54] <CJ^> ick
[03 Jan/07:55] <Marc> that would be bad
[03 Jan/07:55] <Big`Ed> Marc - suggest you take it in for a shop visit - and invest $50 bucks and let them fix it right
[03 Jan/07:55] <Pauly> Opti-viper chip set
[03 Jan/07:55] <CJ^> ok
[03 Jan/07:55] <CJ^> anythign else??
[03 Jan/07:55] <CJ^> sound ?  vidoe on board?? 
[03 Jan/07:55] <Marc> if they know what it is, they always try to sell something completely new
[03 Jan/07:56] <Big`Ed> Marc - that is not required - only other solution would be a 'CLEAN' load of windows
[03 Jan/07:56] <Pauly> no sound
[03 Jan/07:56] <jet350> Marc why dont you format 
[03 Jan/07:56] <Pauly> generic 1 meg video card
[03 Jan/07:56] <CJ^> no
[03 Jan/07:56] <CJ^> thats ok
[03 Jan/07:56] <CJ^> found it
[03 Jan/07:56] <CJ^> well one of 2 boards..
[03 Jan/07:56] <Pauly> ok
[03 Jan/07:56] <CJ^> M519 or m529
[03 Jan/07:56] <Marc> mmm I don't have enough space to save everything first
[03 Jan/07:57] <Big`Ed> Marc - since a trained technicaian can't sit at your PC and look at the problem, a format is in order if you want to do it yourself
[03 Jan/07:57] <CJ^> those boards share the same bios
[03 Jan/07:57] <Pauly> cool
[03 Jan/07:57] <Big`Ed> marc - never heard of backups?
[03 Jan/07:57] <Big`Ed> Marc - what would you do if your system did not turn on at all?
[03 Jan/07:57] <Marc> 4 GB?
[03 Jan/07:58] <Big`Ed> Marc - thats about 7 CD's - or 1 8gb tape - both devices cost under $200
[03 Jan/07:58] <Big`Ed> Marc - or - a second HD can be had for under $100 to store backup data
[03 Jan/07:58] <Marc> here are different prices and I don't have a CD recorder
[03 Jan/07:59] <Big`Ed> Marc - but the issue is - you have a serious problem with your dialup - and a trained technician needs to fix it for you
[03 Jan/07:59] <Big`Ed> Marc - or you can reload win98 clean
[03 Jan/07:59] <CJ^> ok pauly  almost got you a link to a new bios...
[03 Jan/07:59] <Pauly> sweet 
[03 Jan/07:59] <Marc> right I want to use my computer again asap
[03 Jan/08:00] <Pauly> is there a flash utility with the bios
[03 Jan/08:00] <Big`Ed> Marc - you can use your computer now
[03 Jan/08:00] <Big`Ed> Marc - just not for the internet
[03 Jan/08:00] <Marc> yes I meant Internet
[03 Jan/08:00] <Big`Ed> Marc - something happened last week when it frooze
[03 Jan/08:00] <Big`Ed> Marc - and without digging into it - i can't help you farther over the net
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[03 Jan/08:01] <Marc> think so too, only I still don't know what
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[03 Jan/08:01] <GrungeMan> hello
[03 Jan/08:01] <Big`Ed> Marc - sorry - can't help farther
[03 Jan/08:01] <Marc> please digg as far possible
[03 Jan/08:01] <Big`Ed> hi GrungeMan
[03 Jan/08:01] <GrungeMan> i'd like to know if there is a "windows 3.1 advanced" or something like that?
[03 Jan/08:01] <Marc> okay thanks for your time
[03 Jan/08:01] <Big`Ed> Marc - i would have to do it in person - you say you have done everthing
[03 Jan/08:02] <Marc> well as far I know myself
[03 Jan/08:02] <Big`Ed> GrungeMan - there was several versions of windows - 3.0, 3.1, 3.11, wfw3.1, 3.11
[03 Jan/08:02] <GrungeMan> wich is the best? 3.11?
[03 Jan/08:02] <Big`Ed> GrungeMan - win98
[03 Jan/08:03] <Big`Ed> Marc - find a qualified pc technician to look over your pc
[03 Jan/08:03] <Big`Ed> Marc - or perhaps they will do a reload - and save your data
[03 Jan/08:03] <Big`Ed> GrungeMan - what is your win98 question?
[03 Jan/08:03] <GrungeMan> sorry, it's not a win98 question, it's just a "win" question
[03 Jan/08:03] <Marc> no no I will back it up on a old HD and do it self
[03 Jan/08:04] <Big`Ed> oh - sorry
[03 Jan/08:04] <GrungeMan> in the win 3.* series...wich is the besty?
[03 Jan/08:04] <Big`Ed> ok Marc - hopefully a clean install will fix it
[03 Jan/08:04] <Big`Ed> GrungeMan - none - they are no longer supported by Microsoft
[03 Jan/08:04] <GrungeMan> ?
[03 Jan/08:04] <Marc> hope so but I never will know what it was and the same can happen again
[03 Jan/08:05] <GrungeMan> what are the win95 reqs?
[03 Jan/08:05] <Big`Ed> www.microsoft.com/windows
[03 Jan/08:06] <GrungeMan> i don'T see m
[03 Jan/08:06] <Big`Ed> ?
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[03 Jan/08:06] <Big`Ed> http://www.microsoft.com/windows95/
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[03 Jan/08:06] <Big`Ed> hi artman
[03 Jan/08:06] <artman> Hi ya Big`Ed
[03 Jan/08:07] <Big`Ed> christmas/newyears good to you artman?
[03 Jan/08:07] <Big`Ed> CJ^ sent me over a whopper pII-700 (i'm happy)
[03 Jan/08:07] <CJ^> i did?
[03 Jan/08:07] <artman> Yes sir, how about you?  Any Y2K probs??
[03 Jan/08:08] <CJ^> thast where  i put it... grrrrrrrrrrrr
[03 Jan/08:08] <artman> hehe
[03 Jan/08:08] <Elysian> hehe
[03 Jan/08:08] <Big`Ed> not a one artman - it's nice to have all new equipment at work
[03 Jan/08:08] <Elysian> why'd he send it to ytou? i'm the one witht the p200 and win2k server!
[03 Jan/08:08] <CJ^> ftp://202.82.156.83/pub/pcchips/bios/m519/     Pauly.. go there...
[03 Jan/08:08] <Elysian> :)
[03 Jan/08:08] <artman> yep
[03 Jan/08:08] <CJ^> i dont know if it will help you much
[03 Jan/08:08] <CJ^> IMHO  get a new motherboard...
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[03 Jan/08:09] <Big`Ed> artman - did KY find its way into the dark black hole?
[03 Jan/08:09] <Big`Ed> (board is what - 3+ years old)
[03 Jan/08:10] <Pauly> Thanx cj^
[03 Jan/08:10] <artman> KY apparently has weathered the storm......no problems here....except for the inbreeding thing
[03 Jan/08:10] <CJ^> also.. search that FTP site for the Award flash.,...
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[03 Jan/08:10] <CJ^> from what im reading though..
[03 Jan/08:10] <CJ^> the Opti wont allow more than 8 gig
[03 Jan/08:11] <CJ^> sorry to say..
[03 Jan/08:11] <CJ^> but  who knows...
[03 Jan/08:11] <artman> :-)
[03 Jan/08:11] <CJ^> for what ya spent on the hdd  $70 more would have gotten ya a new MB
[03 Jan/08:12] <Big`Ed> god i'm old - wfw 3.11 was 1993 software
[03 Jan/08:13] <CJ^> :P
[03 Jan/08:13] <CJ^> so  i was runngin that
[03 Jan/08:13] <CJ^> got it around here.. somewhere...
[03 Jan/08:13] <Big`Ed> i still got a coupla copies too
[03 Jan/08:13] <Big`Ed> got the resource kit too
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[03 Jan/08:15] <Big`Ed> and remember the 'fun' with mouse 9 drivers
[03 Jan/08:16] <CJ^> :P
[03 Jan/08:16] <Big`Ed> and - i used to have to run it with 'banyan vines networking'
[03 Jan/08:16] <CJ^> serial mice.... ICk...
[03 Jan/08:16] <Big`Ed> that was before thos funky ps/2 things
[03 Jan/08:16] <Big`Ed> real men used serial
[03 Jan/08:17] <Elysian> long before USB!:)
[03 Jan/08:17] <Big`Ed> us what?
[03 Jan/08:17] <Big`Ed> isn't that a truck company?
[03 Jan/08:18] <Elysian> heh
[03 Jan/08:18] <Pauly> cool
[03 Jan/08:19] <Big`Ed> hmmm - they show a win 3.2
[03 Jan/08:19] <Elysian> ?
[03 Jan/08:20] <Big`Ed> win 3.1 released 10 mar 92, has a operational date range of 4 jan 1980 to 31 dec 2035
[03 Jan/08:20] <CJ^> HAHHAHHAHHAHAHA
[03 Jan/08:20] <CJ^> yeah right
[03 Jan/08:21] <Big`Ed> win 3.11 - no release date - same date range
[03 Jan/08:21] <Big`Ed> (chinese version
[03 Jan/08:21] <Big`Ed> Windows 3.2 (Chinese - Simplified) - 16-Bit Win
[03 Jan/08:22] <CJ^> ahhhh
[03 Jan/08:22] <CJ^> Xang!
[03 Jan/08:22] <Big`Ed> hehe - should have told that bozo to get that version
[03 Jan/08:22] <Big`Ed> latest
[03 Jan/08:22] <CJ^> hehe
[03 Jan/08:22] <CJ^> ooohh  that would be cruel...
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[03 Jan/08:22] <Big`Ed> win 3.x don't do 2/29/2000
[03 Jan/08:24] <Big`Ed> but microsoft calls the os complient
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[03 Jan/08:27] <Big`Ed> well friends - i got to go do some work around this ranch
[03 Jan/08:28] <Big`Ed> kick the cows, milk the bull - you know
[03 Jan/08:28] <Big`Ed> catch you all later
[03 Jan/08:28] <CJ^> :P
[03 Jan/08:28] <Big`Ed> (translates: take kids to the mall, take out trash, wash car)
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[03 Jan/08:29] <Pauly> CJ^ is there anything i have to do before i flash the bios it?  (it is saying cannot flash bios)
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[03 Jan/08:29] <StuSSy> hello
[03 Jan/08:29] <StuSSy> i need some help
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[03 Jan/08:30] <CJ^> Pauly  do you have the award flash?
[03 Jan/08:31] <CJ^> and  you are shutting the system donw BEFORE you flash  correct?
[03 Jan/08:32] <Pauly> Yes and loading off of the start up disk
[03 Jan/08:32] <Pauly> yes the award flash bios
[03 Jan/08:34] <CJ^> well.. whats the exact error?
[03 Jan/08:34] <Pauly> hold on
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[03 Jan/08:39] <Pauly> cj^  I am not sure it just says erase chip fale
[03 Jan/08:39] <Pauly> erase chip fail
[03 Jan/08:39] <CJ^> :P
[03 Jan/08:39] <CJ^> well...  
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[03 Jan/08:39] <apold> need help finding "W98lite Professional" ,anyone know where... ???
[03 Jan/08:39] <CJ^> liek i said.. dump that board...
[03 Jan/08:40] <CJ^> apold...
[03 Jan/08:40] <CJ^> W98 lite?
[03 Jan/08:40] <CJ^> whats is that?
[03 Jan/08:41] <apold> CJ : to install w98 ,without IE, and other things.
[03 Jan/08:41] <CJ^> ick...
[03 Jan/08:41] <CJ^> sorry cant help ya...
[03 Jan/08:41] <CJ^> i dont by the hype that MS islying about IE nto being needed
[03 Jan/08:41] <apold> cj: an installasjon of W98 will be about 70-80mb.
[03 Jan/08:42] <CJ^> well  personally again.. i dont buy into it..
[03 Jan/08:42] <CJ^> if i dont wanan use IE..
[03 Jan/08:42] <CJ^> netscape
[03 Jan/08:42] <CJ^> or ill boot into Linux...
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[03 Jan/09:11] <FreshBrew> okay i need a little help with a hard drive thats makin me mad?
[03 Jan/09:11] <FreshBrew> err !
[03 Jan/09:11] <Azmodan> what is wrong with it?
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[03 Jan/09:11] <FreshBrew> I installed it and formatted... etc etc and it doesnt seem to work right
[03 Jan/09:11] <Ascent> any reports of viruses going around??
[03 Jan/09:12] <Azmodan> Ascent, be more specific, there are tonnes of virii always around
[03 Jan/09:12] <Ascent> I eman from the Y2K thing
[03 Jan/09:12] <Ascent> eman=mean
[03 Jan/09:12] <FreshBrew> it send info really slowly and i tried to load several progs on and it screws them up all the time
[03 Jan/09:12] <FreshBrew> no Y2k was a big let down
[03 Jan/09:12] <Azmodan> Ascent, have not heard of one
[03 Jan/09:13] <Ascent> oh ok. just checking.
[03 Jan/09:13] <Azmodan> FreshBrew, what type of HD is it?
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[03 Jan/09:13] <FreshBrew> its a fujitsu 8.4gb hard drive
[03 Jan/09:14] <Azmodan> does your bios support a drive that large?
[03 Jan/09:14] <FreshBrew> apparently
[03 Jan/09:14] <FreshBrew> it registers as 8.4 in the bios
[03 Jan/09:15] <Azmodan> and did you choose large disk support when you partitioned it?
[03 Jan/09:15] <FreshBrew> its counted as a large disk?
[03 Jan/09:15] <FreshBrew> and would i do that in bios?
[03 Jan/09:16] <Azmodan> no when you run fdisk it asks you a question
[03 Jan/09:16] <Azmodan> did you answer Y or N
[03 Jan/09:16] <FreshBrew> well, i had a friend come over and do the f disk stuff
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[03 Jan/09:16] <FreshBrew> and now when i try and run fdisk again, it doesnt work
[03 Jan/09:16] <Azmodan> fdisk does not run at all or does not show that drive?
[03 Jan/09:17] <FreshBrew> well one sec ill try and run it again... brb
[03 Jan/09:17] <Azmodan> k
[03 Jan/09:18] <FreshBrew> okay fdisk works
[03 Jan/09:18] <FreshBrew> now it asking if i wanna have large disk support
[03 Jan/09:19] <Azmodan> say Y
[03 Jan/09:20] <Azmodan> now choose option 5 and select the second drive
[03 Jan/09:20] <FreshBrew> wich i think i already have before.... the drive says its like 7.84 after i installed it but first it ran everything in dos, so i re formatted and now it wont let things be installed on it period and its really slow like to move data from one place to another
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[03 Jan/09:20] <FreshBrew> okay what now?
[03 Jan/09:21] <Azmodan> use option 4 to show the partition and copy and paste the info here for me please
[03 Jan/09:21] <FreshBrew> okay.. one sec
[03 Jan/09:21] <FreshBrew> okay i cant cut and copy it will take a little bit to type out
[03 Jan/09:22] <Azmodan> you can copy and paste
[03 Jan/09:22] <FreshBrew> no i cant i dont think
[03 Jan/09:22] <Azmodan> its just done differently
[03 Jan/09:22] <Azmodan> see the toolbar at the top of the dos window
[03 Jan/09:22] <FreshBrew> how?
[03 Jan/09:22] <FreshBrew> yeah
[03 Jan/09:22] <Azmodan> see the square made up of dashes?
[03 Jan/09:23] <FreshBrew> okay I get it now.. one sec brb
[03 Jan/09:23] <Azmodan> k
[03 Jan/09:23] <FreshBrew>                          Display Partition Information
[03 Jan/09:23] <FreshBrew>    Current fixed disk drive: 2
[03 Jan/09:23] <FreshBrew>    Partition  Status   Type    Volume Label  Mbytes   System   Usage
[03 Jan/09:23] <FreshBrew>     D: 1              PRI DOS                 8040   FAT32      100%
[03 Jan/09:23] <FreshBrew>    Total disk space is  8040 Mbytes (1 Mbyte = 1048576 bytes)
[03 Jan/09:24] <FreshBrew> hmm its a little abstract..
[03 Jan/09:24] <Azmodan> thats ok
[03 Jan/09:24] <FreshBrew> ill try to set it up better..
[03 Jan/09:24] <FreshBrew> okay
[03 Jan/09:24] <Azmodan> thats all I needed to see
[03 Jan/09:24] <Azmodan> it looks fine
[03 Jan/09:24] <FreshBrew> hmm
[03 Jan/09:24] <FreshBrew> well....
[03 Jan/09:24] <Azmodan> what are the errors you are getting when you try to use it?
[03 Jan/09:24] <FreshBrew> it doesnt work fine
[03 Jan/09:25] <FreshBrew> no errors.. but when i install games etc and then try to run them, they dont work
[03 Jan/09:25] <Azmodan> they don't work how
[03 Jan/09:25] <FreshBrew> the .exe files always commit illegal ops
[03 Jan/09:25] <Azmodan> ahhh
[03 Jan/09:25] <Azmodan> what is the exact error message?
[03 Jan/09:25] <FreshBrew> one sec...
[03 Jan/09:25] <Azmodan> can you do it and write it down?
[03 Jan/09:26] <FreshBrew> ill cut and copy or write it down
[03 Jan/09:26] <FreshBrew> brb
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[03 Jan/09:26] <FreshBrew> have to onstall somethign first since i deleted everything... ill be like 2 mins
[03 Jan/09:26] <Azmodan> ok
[03 Jan/09:27] <Azmodan> hi sith
[03 Jan/09:28] <SITH> hy
[03 Jan/09:28] <FreshBrew> okay... this time this prog is working....
[03 Jan/09:28] <SITH> do u now how to configure winroute?
[03 Jan/09:28] <Azmodan> FreshBrew, try some more ;-)
[03 Jan/09:28] <Azmodan> sith, yeah
[03 Jan/09:28] <FreshBrew> okay... ill try baldurs gate.. this will take a while brb
[03 Jan/09:29] <SITH> ok 
[03 Jan/09:29] <SITH> tell me pls
[03 Jan/09:30] <Azmodan> hold on, I'm on the phone
[03 Jan/09:30] <SITH> ok
[03 Jan/09:31] <FreshBrew> now i wait.... then i have to watch that lame descent 3 preview movie for like the 40th time
[03 Jan/09:32] <FreshBrew> damn descent preview
[03 Jan/09:33] <SITH> i'm waiting
[03 Jan/09:33] <FreshBrew> i swear to god ive watched this preview for more then ive watched tv since i got this new hd
[03 Jan/09:34] <FreshBrew> whats winroute/
[03 Jan/09:34] <FreshBrew> ?
[03 Jan/09:34] <Azmodan> sith, what have you done so far?
[03 Jan/09:35] <FreshBrew> okay im watching the preview movie now.. back in 3
[03 Jan/09:35] <SITH> i'm waiting.....
[03 Jan/09:36] <Azmodan> so am I
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[03 Jan/09:36] <Azmodan> <Azmodan> sith, what have you done so far?
[03 Jan/09:36] <Azmodan> <FreshBrew> okay im watching the preview movie now.. back in 3
[03 Jan/09:36] <Azmodan> <SITH> i'm waiting.....
[03 Jan/09:36] <FreshBrew> he asked you a questions ith
[03 Jan/09:36] <FreshBrew> *sith
[03 Jan/09:36] <Azmodan> sith, read the topic
[03 Jan/09:37] <Azmodan> no /msg's!
[03 Jan/09:37] <SITH> i have installed winroute
[03 Jan/09:38] <FreshBrew> okay, ididnt get illegal ops this time, it jst said bgmain.exe is corrupt
[03 Jan/09:38] <FreshBrew> and it told me to reinstall
[03 Jan/09:38] <Azmodan> sith, sith, what version of winroute?
[03 Jan/09:38] <FreshBrew> NO now i have to watch that damn demo movie AGAIN
[03 Jan/09:39] <SITH> winroute 3.0 lite
[03 Jan/09:39] <Azmodan> doh
[03 Jan/09:39] <Azmodan> sith, ok then youve done what you need to on the server
[03 Jan/09:39] <Azmodan> on the client
[03 Jan/09:39] <SITH> i think so
[03 Jan/09:39] <Azmodan> you need to set its tcp/ip settings up
[03 Jan/09:40] <SITH> i have done that
[03 Jan/09:40] <Azmodan> give it an ip address and subnet mask
[03 Jan/09:40] <Azmodan> make sure its the same subnetmask that the server is useing
[03 Jan/09:40] <SITH> done
[03 Jan/09:40] <SITH> done
[03 Jan/09:40] <Azmodan> on the gateway tab enter the ip address of the server computer
[03 Jan/09:41] <SITH> done
[03 Jan/09:41] <Azmodan> in the dns tab enter the ip addresses of your isp's dns servers
[03 Jan/09:41] <SITH> done
[03 Jan/09:41] <Azmodan> then your done
[03 Jan/09:41] <SITH> wait a moment
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[03 Jan/09:42] <SITH> i have 2 pc
[03 Jan/09:42] <Azmodan> yeah, 1 server and 1 client?
[03 Jan/09:42] <pyrokiwi> can some1 update me pls
[03 Jan/09:42] <SITH> yep
[03 Jan/09:42] <pyrokiwi> wat os is the server running?
[03 Jan/09:43] <Azmodan> sith, so what are we waiting for
[03 Jan/09:43] <Azmodan> pyro, hush
[03 Jan/09:43] <Azmodan> hehehehe
[03 Jan/09:43] * pyrokiwi hushes :(
[03 Jan/09:43] <SITH> it doesn't work
[03 Jan/09:43] <Azmodan> what is the error message
[03 Jan/09:44] <SITH> the pc are conected with ethernet cards
[03 Jan/09:44] <Azmodan> can you ping each computer?
[03 Jan/09:44] <pyrokiwi> crossover cable?
[03 Jan/09:44] <pyrokiwi> or hub?
[03 Jan/09:44] <SITH> tnop
[03 Jan/09:44] <w98> hub is A central connection point. Standard terminology for a device that connects multiple computers in a network.
[03 Jan/09:44] <Azmodan> whats tnop?
[03 Jan/09:44] <SITH> nope
[03 Jan/09:44] <Azmodan> you cannot ping each computer?
[03 Jan/09:45] <SITH> no
[03 Jan/09:45] <Azmodan> are you useing a hub or just an ethernet cable to link them?
[03 Jan/09:45] <Azmodan> or is it coax cable?
[03 Jan/09:46] <SITH> just an ethernet cable
[03 Jan/09:46] <pyrokiwi> hmm do they both hav win98?
[03 Jan/09:46] <Azmodan> sith, you need to have a Crossover Cable
[03 Jan/09:46] <Azmodan> go and buy one ;-)
[03 Jan/09:46] <pyrokiwi> or else it will not work :)
[03 Jan/09:46] <SITH> one 98 and other one 95
[03 Jan/09:47] <pyrokiwi> ok but as az said ya need a crossover cable
[03 Jan/09:47] <SITH> what is Crossover Cable
[03 Jan/09:47] <Azmodan> next time before you install something like winroute make sure your network is working
[03 Jan/09:47] <Azmodan> sith, its an ethernet cable that has some pairs crossed
[03 Jan/09:47] <pyrokiwi> best place to get 1 is at a computer wiring supply shop ask 4 one
[03 Jan/09:47] <Azmodan> similar in princible to a null modem cable
[03 Jan/09:47] <SITH> my network is working
[03 Jan/09:47] <FreshBrew> BGMAIN caused an invalid page fault in
[03 Jan/09:47] <FreshBrew> module <unknown> at 0000:bff711be.
[03 Jan/09:47] <FreshBrew> Registers:
[03 Jan/09:47] <FreshBrew> EAX=815e0000 CS=015f EIP=bff711be EFLGS=00010246
[03 Jan/09:47] <FreshBrew> EBX=00000000 SS=0167 ESP=83a13cbc EBP=83a13cc8
[03 Jan/09:47] <FreshBrew> ECX=ffffffff DS=0167 ESI=00000000 FS=507f
[03 Jan/09:47] <FreshBrew> EDX=815e2c90 ES=0167 EDI=00c074d8 GS=0000
[03 Jan/09:47] <FreshBrew> Bytes at CS:EIP:
[03 Jan/09:47] <FreshBrew> f2 ae f7 d1 8b 75 0c 8b 7d 08 8b c7 fc 51 c1 e9 
[03 Jan/09:47] <FreshBrew> Stack dump:
[03 Jan/09:47] <FreshBrew> 815e1b24 00000000 83a13dec 83a13efc bff7e6ef 83a13dec 00c074d8 815e1b24 815e1b38 00000000 bff7e840 815e1e18 815e1ae2 815e188c 00000000 00000008 
[03 Jan/09:47] <FreshBrew> there you go azmodan
[03 Jan/09:48] <pyrokiwi> woah looks like some1s got a fresh brew of problems
[03 Jan/09:48] <Azmodan> sith if your network was working you would be able to ping your client pc
[03 Jan/09:48] <Azmodan> but as you can't
[03 Jan/09:48] <FreshBrew> oh clever!
[03 Jan/09:48] <SITH> i can see the other computer
[03 Jan/09:48] <pyrokiwi> sorry just woke up and hav dumb sense of humour at the moment
[03 Jan/09:48] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm
[03 Jan/09:48] <FreshBrew> if anyone can make sense of that error...
[03 Jan/09:48] <Azmodan> sith, fine then open a dos prompt
[03 Jan/09:48] <Azmodan> and type
[03 Jan/09:48] <pyrokiwi> wat is bgmain?
[03 Jan/09:49] <Azmodan> ping ip.address.goes.here
[03 Jan/09:49] <SITH> maybe i did not ping right 
[03 Jan/09:49] <FreshBrew> baldurs gate main.exe
[03 Jan/09:49] <Azmodan> pyro, its the main exe of baldurs gate
[03 Jan/09:49] <pyrokiwi> ahha
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[03 Jan/09:49] <bognogin> hey
[03 Jan/09:49] <FreshBrew> it all has to do with a hard drive problem ive been receiving help with from azmodan
[03 Jan/09:49] <w98> que tal, bognogin
[03 Jan/09:49] <pyrokiwi> ahha :)
[03 Jan/09:49] <pyrokiwi> i wont intrude then
[03 Jan/09:50] <SITH> it works
[03 Jan/09:50] <bognogin> just wondering how i could record a cd to, let's say, windows recorder, without puttin a mic to the speakers
[03 Jan/09:50] <FreshBrew> you see the hard drive goes really slow moving data and when you load progs on, they wont work
[03 Jan/09:50] <Azmodan> FreshBrew, my best advice is for you to try another hard drive the same way
[03 Jan/09:50] <pyrokiwi> ahha SITH did i hear az saying u are using wonroute?
[03 Jan/09:50] <Azmodan> FreshBrew, the hard drive could be faulty
[03 Jan/09:50] <FreshBrew> yeah my old hd, i loaded it on no problems
[03 Jan/09:50] <Azmodan> FreshBrew, then take that drive back to the store
[03 Jan/09:51] <FreshBrew> hmmm
[03 Jan/09:51] <FreshBrew> god damn sundays.. have to wait another coupld days
[03 Jan/09:51] <SITH> it works
[03 Jan/09:51] <bognogin> nevermind
[03 Jan/09:51] <pyrokiwi> SITH are u using winroute?
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[03 Jan/09:51] <Azmodan> what works sith?
[03 Jan/09:51] <pyrokiwi> pinging
[03 Jan/09:51] <Azmodan> I know pinging works he said that before
[03 Jan/09:51] <SITH> to ping the other computer
[03 Jan/09:51] <pyrokiwi> yeh he said it again
[03 Jan/09:52] <pyrokiwi> but SITH are u using winroute?
[03 Jan/09:52] <SITH> yes 
[03 Jan/09:52] <Azmodan> sith, from the client pc ping your dns servers ip adress
[03 Jan/09:52] <SITH> just a moment
[03 Jan/09:53] <SITH> ok
[03 Jan/09:53] <SITH> it work
[03 Jan/09:53] <pyrokiwi> hmmm SITH is it a trial or full version of winroute?
[03 Jan/09:53] <SITH> full
[03 Jan/09:53] <Azmodan> sith, ping www.ihug.co.nz
[03 Jan/09:53] <Azmodan> sith, you are not useing the full version
[03 Jan/09:54] <Azmodan> you are useing the lite version
[03 Jan/09:54] <pyrokiwi> then has the trial run out?
[03 Jan/09:54] <SITH> what is the diference
[03 Jan/09:54] <Azmodan> sith, the difference is a tonne of settings
[03 Jan/09:54] <Azmodan> what did that last ping return?
[03 Jan/09:55] <SITH> wht?
[03 Jan/09:55] <Azmodan> <Azmodan> sith, ping www.ihug.co.nz
[03 Jan/09:55] <SITH> what?
[03 Jan/09:55] <Azmodan> please read the screen
[03 Jan/09:55] <SITH> ok
[03 Jan/09:56] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm wait if he is using winroute does he have the engine running on both pcs??
[03 Jan/09:57] <Azmodan> just wait and see if that ping works
[03 Jan/09:57] <pyrokiwi> ok
[03 Jan/09:57] <SITH> yes i have it on bouth pc
[03 Jan/09:57] <Azmodan> sith, remove it from the client
[03 Jan/09:57] <pyrokiwi> ok :)
[03 Jan/09:57] <SITH> the ping work
[03 Jan/09:57] <SITH> ok
[03 Jan/09:57] <SITH> why?
[03 Jan/09:57] <Azmodan> if the ping worked then so will your web browser
[03 Jan/09:57] <Azmodan> sith, you only need to install it on the server
[03 Jan/09:57] <Azmodan> that is why
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[03 Jan/09:58] <pyrokiwi> unless u somehow hav managed to set winroute to ignore ur webbrowser
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[03 Jan/09:58] <Timacle> why win98 freeze so lot?
[03 Jan/09:58] <pyrokiwi> it doesnt on my pc
[03 Jan/09:59] <pyrokiwi> wat happens when it freezes?
[03 Jan/09:59] <SITH> winroute 3.0 lite home edition
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[03 Jan/09:59] <SITH> not the 4.0 profesional
[03 Jan/10:00] <Azmodan> sith, you've already told me that
[03 Jan/10:00] <pyrokiwi> ok
[03 Jan/10:00] <Timacle> i have a pentium celeron 300 30mg ram and when i try to run some program my pc freeze and i hace to crtl + alt +del
[03 Jan/10:00] <FreshBrew> win98 uses a windows nt script and windows nt sucks so...
[03 Jan/10:00] <pyrokiwi> 30meg ram?
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[03 Jan/10:00] <FreshBrew> 30 megs of ram ?
[03 Jan/10:00] <Timacle> yes
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[03 Jan/10:00] <FreshBrew> couldnt spring for the extra 2?
[03 Jan/10:00] <pyrokiwi> and what programs make it freeze?
[03 Jan/10:00] <Azmodan> FreshBrew, win98 has nothing to do with NT
[03 Jan/10:01] <FreshBrew> it doesnt
[03 Jan/10:01] <Azmodan> fresh, no it doesn't
[03 Jan/10:01] <FreshBrew> ive heard it uses a script from nt
[03 Jan/10:01] <pyrokiwi> nope
[03 Jan/10:01] <Timacle> phtoshop 5.0, some mcaffe software
[03 Jan/10:01] <Raist> is there a way to save help files and look at them from wordpad?
[03 Jan/10:01] <pyrokiwi> that is win2000
[03 Jan/10:01] <Azmodan> FreshBrew and again, no it doesn't
[03 Jan/10:01] <FreshBrew> just like fixed a few errors.. oh
[03 Jan/10:01] + Azmodan has to dash
[03 Jan/10:02] <pyrokiwi> uhoh
[03 Jan/10:02] <Timacle> how many errors could bring win 2000'
[03 Jan/10:02] * pyrokiwi hates it when he gets left and every1 has hard problems
[03 Jan/10:02] <SITH> pyrokiwi how can i set it to work
[03 Jan/10:02] <Raist> ?
[03 Jan/10:02] <pyrokiwi> SITH what error message does ur browser bring up?
[03 Jan/10:03] <SITH> to remove it from the client pc i don't think is a good ideea
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[03 Jan/10:03] <pyrokiwi> Timacle u there?
[03 Jan/10:03] <SITH> winroute transmits but it dosen't recive nothing
[03 Jan/10:03] <SITH> on the client pc
[03 Jan/10:03] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm
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[03 Jan/10:04] <pyrokiwi> ok so what does your browser say when u try to load a page?
[03 Jan/10:04] <SITH> nothing
[03 Jan/10:04] <pyrokiwi> nothing?
[03 Jan/10:04] <pyrokiwi> wat browser u using
[03 Jan/10:04] <SITH> the page is blank
[03 Jan/10:04] <SITH> no error mesages
[03 Jan/10:05] <pyrokiwi> yeh type in www.mamma.com
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[03 Jan/10:05] <SITH> and...
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[03 Jan/10:05] <pyrokiwi> and it will bring up an error message
[03 Jan/10:05] <SITH> what is there
[03 Jan/10:05] <pyrokiwi> does it?
[03 Jan/10:05] <pyrokiwi> a search engine 
[03 Jan/10:05] <w98> a search engine is This is typically a Web site that compiles and indexes a large amount of stuff on the Web and lets you search through it in some orderly manner. Search engines have many different strategies for collecting data and presenting it. If you can't find something in one, try another.
[03 Jan/10:06] <pyrokiwi> grrr
[03 Jan/10:06] <pyrokiwi> what browser u using?
[03 Jan/10:06] <w98> don't grrrrr me
[03 Jan/10:06] <SITH> i try whith altavista
[03 Jan/10:06] <pyrokiwi> lol
[03 Jan/10:06] <SITH> and nothing
[03 Jan/10:06] <pyrokiwi> ok i said mamma cause i am there and know its up just a mom
[03 Jan/10:06] <SITH> ok
[03 Jan/10:07] <SITH> nothing
[03 Jan/10:07] <pyrokiwi> so what browser are u using?
[03 Jan/10:07] <SITH> the page is blank
[03 Jan/10:07] <w98> i already had it that way, SITH.
[03 Jan/10:07] <SITH> netscape
[03 Jan/10:07] <pyrokiwi> version?
[03 Jan/10:08] <SITH> 4.05
[03 Jan/10:08] <pyrokiwi> hmmm
[03 Jan/10:08] <pyrokiwi> so it doesnt bring up ANY error message that is weird
[03 Jan/10:09] <SITH> no
[03 Jan/10:10] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm
[03 Jan/10:10] <pyrokiwi> hav u got it set to do that
[03 Jan/10:10] <pyrokiwi> click on a link in it
[03 Jan/10:10] <pyrokiwi> or a bookmark
[03 Jan/10:11] <SITH> before installing winroute  there was some error msg 
[03 Jan/10:11] <SITH> even mirc does not work
[03 Jan/10:11] <pyrokiwi> hmmm yeh wat does it say?
[03 Jan/10:12] <pyrokiwi> oh also on the server can u look up pages etc
[03 Jan/10:12] <SITH> the server has no problem 
[03 Jan/10:12] <pyrokiwi> ok
[03 Jan/10:12] <SITH> only the client
[03 Jan/10:13] <pyrokiwi> and when u start up the winroute engine on the client it doesnt hav redline in it?
[03 Jan/10:14] <SITH> i have the home edition and it have only few options
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[03 Jan/10:14] <pyrokiwi> ok well try removing it from the client 
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[03 Jan/10:15] <SITH> i have done that
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[03 Jan/10:15] <pyrokiwi> do i know uninstall it
[03 Jan/10:15] <pyrokiwi> do it now sorry
[03 Jan/10:15] <SITH> ok
[03 Jan/10:16] <SITH> i'm trying now
[03 Jan/10:16] <pyrokiwi> also y such and old browser?
[03 Jan/10:16] <SITH> ok
[03 Jan/10:17] <pyrokiwi> ok so it is uninstalled?
[03 Jan/10:17] <pyrokiwi> it is nowhere in your system
[03 Jan/10:17] <SITH> yes
[03 Jan/10:17] <pyrokiwi> good
[03 Jan/10:17] <SITH> nope
[03 Jan/10:17] <pyrokiwi> now try looking up a page
[03 Jan/10:17] <SITH> ok
[03 Jan/10:17] <pyrokiwi> what does it do this time?
[03 Jan/10:18] <SITH> i've try and it say "the netscape is unable to locate the server"
[03 Jan/10:19] <pyrokiwi> ok so know u hav an error message that is better
[03 Jan/10:19] <pyrokiwi> wait up there is something that i am slowly realising
[03 Jan/10:19] <SITH> "the server does not have a DNS entry" 
[03 Jan/10:19] <pyrokiwi> boot up ie and see if it works
[03 Jan/10:19] <SITH> ok
[03 Jan/10:20] <pyrokiwi> also what protocal is ur network
[03 Jan/10:21] <SITH> still does'nt work
[03 Jan/10:21] <SITH> tcp/ip
[03 Jan/10:21] <SITH> and the network works
[03 Jan/10:21] <pyrokiwi> yepyep wait up
[03 Jan/10:22] <SITH> ok]
[03 Jan/10:22] <pyrokiwi> cause i remeber finding something in windows about how to configure lan internet access
[03 Jan/10:23] <SITH> ok
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[03 Jan/10:23] <SITH> tell me pls step by step how do i configure it
[03 Jan/10:24] <pyrokiwi> yo Big`Ed
[03 Jan/10:24] <pyrokiwi> i am trying to remember
[03 Jan/10:24] <Big`Ed> config?
[03 Jan/10:24] <pyrokiwi> Big`Ed u used winroute b4?
[03 Jan/10:24] <Azmodan> hint, right click internet explorer icon, go to connections tab
[03 Jan/10:24] <Big`Ed> hello
[03 Jan/10:24] <pyrokiwi> this guy can ping stuff but not view on browsers
[03 Jan/10:25] <Big`Ed> from host pc - without winroute?
[03 Jan/10:25] <pyrokiwi> ok do what Azmodan said right click on ie click on connections tab
[03 Jan/10:25] <Azmodan> Ed, server pc is fine
[03 Jan/10:25] <Azmodan> Ed, and he can ping web sites from client
[03 Jan/10:25] <SITH> ok
[03 Jan/10:25] <Big`Ed> dns?
[03 Jan/10:26] <Azmodan> Ed, and he can ping web sites from the client
[03 Jan/10:26] <pyrokiwi> click on the middle option (i hav an existing lan or internet connection)
[03 Jan/10:26] <pyrokiwi> click next
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[03 Jan/10:27] <pyrokiwi> done that?
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[03 Jan/10:27] <SITH> i wait wait
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[03 Jan/10:28] <Creekz> any one here?
[03 Jan/10:28] <SITH>  wait wait...
[03 Jan/10:28] <pyrokiwi> lotsa ppl
[03 Jan/10:28] <pyrokiwi> are here Creekz
[03 Jan/10:28] <Creekz> Do i need a ISDN modem to use ISDN?
[03 Jan/10:28] <pyrokiwi> yes
[03 Jan/10:28] <Creekz> ok
[03 Jan/10:28] <Creekz> thankz
[03 Jan/10:28] <Big`Ed> and a ISDN provider
[03 Jan/10:29] <Creekz> can 56k modem or 28.8 MOdem use ISDN?
[03 Jan/10:29] <SITH> i think i losing my mind
[03 Jan/10:29] <pyrokiwi> u need -modem,isp that supports isdn AND an isdn line
[03 Jan/10:29] <Big`Ed> no
[03 Jan/10:29] <pyrokiwi> y SITH?
[03 Jan/10:29] <Big`Ed> different protocols
[03 Jan/10:29] <pyrokiwi> ok so how far along the internet connection wizzard hav u got?
[03 Jan/10:29] <Creekz> oh ok
[03 Jan/10:29] <Creekz> thankz
[03 Jan/10:30] <Big`Ed> no prob Creekz
[03 Jan/10:30] <pyrokiwi> :)
[03 Jan/10:30] <pyrokiwi> SITH u there?
[03 Jan/10:31] <SITH> yes
[03 Jan/10:31] <SITH> i have netscape not internet explorer
[03 Jan/10:31] <SITH> so
[03 Jan/10:31] <pyrokiwi> ok
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[03 Jan/10:31] <pyrokiwi> u on win98?
[03 Jan/10:31] <pyrokiwi> on the client?
[03 Jan/10:31] <SITH> the server has 98
[03 Jan/10:32] <SITH> the client 95
[03 Jan/10:32] <pyrokiwi> hmmm i dunno try thist hen
[03 Jan/10:32] <pyrokiwi> go into control panel
[03 Jan/10:32] <pyrokiwi> is there an icon called internet options?
[03 Jan/10:33] <SITH> ok
[03 Jan/10:33] <SITH> there is
[03 Jan/10:33] <pyrokiwi> double click on it
[03 Jan/10:34] <SITH> ok
[03 Jan/10:34] <pyrokiwi> then click on the connections tab
[03 Jan/10:34] <SITH> ok
[03 Jan/10:34] <pyrokiwi> then there should be an icon saying setup?
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[03 Jan/10:35] <pyrokiwi> if so click on it
[03 Jan/10:36] <SITH> there is only connect through a proxi server and settings
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[03 Jan/10:36] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm win95 does not hav it wait up a minute
[03 Jan/10:36] <SITH> ok
[03 Jan/10:36] <Creekz> can ISDN modem use regular ISP?
[03 Jan/10:37] <pyrokiwi> hmmm u hav to pay the isp more and only if they support it
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[03 Jan/10:38] <SITH> i'm waiting
[03 Jan/10:38] <Creekz> ok thankz
[03 Jan/10:38] <SITH> whith proxy server works better?
[03 Jan/10:38] <pyrokiwi> hmmm
[03 Jan/10:39] <pyrokiwi> just a min
[03 Jan/10:39] <pyrokiwi> well does winroute use a proxy xerver?
[03 Jan/10:39] <pyrokiwi> if so u need to find it and put it in
[03 Jan/10:39] <SITH> i don't now
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[03 Jan/10:41] <pyrokiwi> hmmm
[03 Jan/10:41] <pyrokiwi> so i dont know bout win95 and setting up lan internet connections
[03 Jan/10:41] <pyrokiwi> does any1 here?
[03 Jan/10:42] <SITH> ok thanks
[03 Jan/10:42] <pyrokiwi> just waitup
[03 Jan/10:42] <SITH> ok
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[03 Jan/10:42] <pyrokiwi> u tried #windows95 
[03 Jan/10:42] <pyrokiwi> ?
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[03 Jan/10:43] <SITH> i'm baned there, i don't now why
[03 Jan/10:43] <pyrokiwi> lol
[03 Jan/10:43] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm
[03 Jan/10:43] [pyrokiwi> Azmodan are u alive cause i dont know bout win95
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[03 Jan/10:44] <Bluecat> hi every1
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[03 Jan/10:44] <devilDigg> hi all
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[03 Jan/10:44] <C20H25N3O> I have a question concerning registry editing
[03 Jan/10:44] <pyrokiwi> hiya devilDigg
[03 Jan/10:45] <devilDigg> hey pyro.. happy millenium
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[03 Jan/10:45] <pyrokiwi> hmmm does any1 here know bout setting up lan internet connections in win95 cause SITH needs help
[03 Jan/10:45] <pyrokiwi> thanx devilDigg u 2
[03 Jan/10:45] <Creekz> any one here use ISDN?
[03 Jan/10:45] <Bluecat> can anyone help me regarding reinstalling win98 ?
[03 Jan/10:46] <devilDigg> hi Big`Ed
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[03 Jan/10:46] <Big`Ed> hi
[03 Jan/10:46] <Big`Ed> Bluecat - how?
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[03 Jan/10:46] <devilDigg> um me
[03 Jan/10:46] * devilDigg set up a lan connection with win9x and win2000 to nt server
[03 Jan/10:46] <devilDigg> my computer was the server
[03 Jan/10:46] * Big`Ed don't have a legal copy of NT2000
[03 Jan/10:46] <pyrokiwi> Creekz wat ya wanna know this time?
[03 Jan/10:46] <Bluecat> ummm i want to wipe everything and then redo it all with out all the junk ive got 
[03 Jan/10:47] * devilDigg has beta 3
[03 Jan/10:47] <Big`Ed> bluecat - win98 boot disk, fdisk
[03 Jan/10:47] * Big`Ed don't do / discuss beta software on #win98
[03 Jan/10:47] <devilDigg> sorry i didnt know..
[03 Jan/10:47] <Bluecat> in the maual it doesnt describe what happen to all the stuff if you have when you reinstall
[03 Jan/10:47] * Big`Ed is not a legal win2k beta site
[03 Jan/10:48] <Bluecat> does it get cleaned from the harddrive ?
[03 Jan/10:48] <pyrokiwi> if u fdisk everythin gets deleted
[03 Jan/10:48] <Big`Ed> Bluecat - a clean install is a blank harddrive
[03 Jan/10:48] <devilDigg> but the point is that i have set up lan connection with win95
[03 Jan/10:48] <pyrokiwi> and then only things u specify get reinstalled 
[03 Jan/10:48] <Bluecat> thats what i want 
[03 Jan/10:48] <SITH>  i'm still here pyrokiwi
[03 Jan/10:48] <pyrokiwi> ok then SITH needs your help
[03 Jan/10:48] * Big`Ed has networked dos and win9x
[03 Jan/10:48] <pyrokiwi> yeh SITH try talking to devilDigg
[03 Jan/10:48] * Big`Ed has networked dos and winNT4
[03 Jan/10:48] <devilDigg> ok SITH what's wrong..
[03 Jan/10:48] <Bluecat> so i just go through the reinstall process and it will come up clean ?
[03 Jan/10:49] <SITH> everything
[03 Jan/10:49] <pyrokiwi> yes Bluecat it will
[03 Jan/10:49] <w98> everything is probably relative
[03 Jan/10:49] <devilDigg> Big`Ed: the only thing i havent been able to do yet is network nt4 workstation with nt4 server, i keep on getting workstation errors with the other comp..
[03 Jan/10:49] <Big`Ed> Bluecat - timeout - you want to keep everything on your PC - and install clean?
[03 Jan/10:49] <devilDigg> sith: start with the first thing you get
[03 Jan/10:49] <Bluecat> Big`Ed yes
[03 Jan/10:49] <devilDigg> i assume you have server set up.. go in the event viewer and tell me what errors you get
[03 Jan/10:49] <Bluecat> no no no i want it all to go 
[03 Jan/10:49] <SITH> what?
[03 Jan/10:49] <Big`Ed> Bluecat - can't be done - you can reinstall - but that won't cleanup junk
[03 Jan/10:50] <Big`Ed> Bluecat - ok - you are willing to delete all -and start fresh?
[03 Jan/10:50] <Bluecat> oh
[03 Jan/10:50] <SITH> i dont't any erros
[03 Jan/10:50] <Bluecat> yep
[03 Jan/10:50] <Big`Ed> seen losguy
[03 Jan/10:50] <w98> I haven't seen 'losguy', Big`Ed
[03 Jan/10:50] <Big`Ed> thanks w98
[03 Jan/10:51] <devilDigg> ok thats good
[03 Jan/10:51] <SITH> i'm connected to internet with a modem
[03 Jan/10:51] <C20H25N3O> Please, I am looking for information concerning registry editing, can someone help me for a moment?
[03 Jan/10:51] <pyrokiwi> C20H25N3O what with registry editing?
[03 Jan/10:51] <Big`Ed> C20H25N3O - support.microsoft.com
[03 Jan/10:51] <devilDigg> no, no dont you want to get a lan connection? you have a hub right?
[03 Jan/10:51] <devilDigg> and network cards
[03 Jan/10:51] <SITH> and to my brother pc with a ethernet adapter
[03 Jan/10:51] <Big`Ed> Bluecat - what type of pc / system do you have?
[03 Jan/10:51] <devilDigg> ok good
[03 Jan/10:51] <pyrokiwi> nah he has crossover
[03 Jan/10:52] <C20H25N3O> I'm trying to figure out how to ass the password key to the registry for my dial-up networking
[03 Jan/10:52] <Bluecat> ipc
[03 Jan/10:52] <devilDigg> oh you mean you want to connect ethernet with modem?
[03 Jan/10:52] <Big`Ed> no CUSSING
[03 Jan/10:52] <Bluecat> pc
[03 Jan/10:52] <C20H25N3O> sorry
[03 Jan/10:52] <C20H25N3O> add
[03 Jan/10:52] <SITH> yes
[03 Jan/10:52] <Big`Ed> C20H25N3O - what do you mean? - what is prob with password?
[03 Jan/10:52] * devilDigg has never seen one of those connections, so far i've done modem to modem connections with win9x and ethernet to ethenet connection through hub
[03 Jan/10:52] <Big`Ed> Bluecat - what type of system?
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[03 Jan/10:52] <Bluecat> oh ok
[03 Jan/10:53] <C20H25N3O> it's not enabled nor will it save after I enter it, and I don't want to have mircosoft network on my system
[03 Jan/10:53] <SITH> i want to give acces to my brother pc to internet
[03 Jan/10:53] <devilDigg> i've done that
[03 Jan/10:53] <Big`Ed> C20H25N3O - you don't need to edit registry for that
[03 Jan/10:53] <SITH> so..
[03 Jan/10:53] <pyrokiwi> go into network
[03 Jan/10:53] <Big`Ed> C20H25N3O - who told you that?
[03 Jan/10:53] <pyrokiwi> and remove everything
[03 Jan/10:53] <devilDigg> well first: you need to set up a proxy server, and i've used a program for that
[03 Jan/10:53] * Bluecat is looking\
[03 Jan/10:54] <C20H25N3O> Big : I've been playing in the registry for some time now, I put two and two together
[03 Jan/10:54] <SITH> i've used winroute
[03 Jan/10:54] <devilDigg> i cant do it w/out that program , and i think there is no way w/out a progrm for that
[03 Jan/10:54] <SITH> and doesn't work
[03 Jan/10:54] <pyrokiwi> go into your network settings and remove it
[03 Jan/10:54] <Bluecat> i dont know
[03 Jan/10:54] <pyrokiwi> but u need 1 there to connect to net
[03 Jan/10:54] <SITH> winroute?
[03 Jan/10:54] <devilDigg> but then agtain i've only done that through a ethernet to ethernet through hub
[03 Jan/10:54] <Bluecat> ive got lots of info on whats init bt nothing to describe what system
[03 Jan/10:55] <devilDigg> and with nt server as the server..
[03 Jan/10:55] <devilDigg> are you running on nt server?
[03 Jan/10:55] <SITH> no
[03 Jan/10:55] <pyrokiwi> 48speed cdrom for 130$ kiwi
[03 Jan/10:55] <pyrokiwi> hows that
[03 Jan/10:55] <Bluecat> amd k6-2-400mhz
[03 Jan/10:55] <Big`Ed> Bluecat - the reason i ask - is sometimes there is driver problems when you reload, and you need to know what your hardware is up front
[03 Jan/10:56] <devilDigg> then i dont think it cant be done..
[03 Jan/10:56] <devilDigg> or are you running win98?
[03 Jan/10:56] <devilDigg> you are doinga  vpn?
[03 Jan/10:56] <SITH> proxy is better then winroute?
[03 Jan/10:56] <Big`Ed> C20H25N3O - well - you got the wrong answer on your problem to this
[03 Jan/10:57] <SITH> i'm running on 98
[03 Jan/10:57] <Big`Ed> C20H25N3O - microsoft networking is removed from the network properties
[03 Jan/10:57] <SITH> and me brother on 95
[03 Jan/10:57] <C20H25N3O> Big Ed, I don't want the microsoft networking on tho, i jus want the password
[03 Jan/10:57] <devilDigg> i havent seen it
[03 Jan/10:57] <Bluecat> amd k6-2-400mhz <---- is that it ?
[03 Jan/10:57] <Big`Ed> C20H25N3O - passwords not caching - is most common problem because of tweakui, multi-user, or other things that restrict the password from caching
[03 Jan/10:58] <Bluecat> thats the cpu
[03 Jan/10:58] <SITH> what soft do i need to connect them to internet
[03 Jan/10:58] * Bluecat should read more about it
[03 Jan/10:58] <C20H25N3O> Big Ed : I don't use that stuff , not since 95
[03 Jan/10:58] <Big`Ed> Bluecat - that is the cpu - but you need to know your soundcard, video card, other things
[03 Jan/10:58] <devilDigg> but then again im only 14, someone else might know how to do it
[03 Jan/10:58] <Bluecat> i know all that
[03 Jan/10:58] <pyrokiwi> im only 14 to :)
[03 Jan/10:58] <Bluecat> ram, mother board
[03 Jan/10:58] <devilDigg> well the way i've done it is: run nt server..
[03 Jan/10:58] <pyrokiwi> somehow ya managed to get the 2 young ppls
[03 Jan/10:59] ! HigHBabE is known as HigH|AwaY
[03 Jan/10:59] <devilDigg> and have your brother connect through you ethernet: you will need a hub for that
[03 Jan/10:59] <devilDigg> and then get: sql server 
[03 Jan/10:59] <Big`Ed> Bluecat - to do a clean install - there is about 3 steps
[03 Jan/10:59] <pyrokiwi> my friend has it done through a linux 486 server
[03 Jan/10:59] <devilDigg> that program will help you get a proxy server up..
[03 Jan/10:59] <Big`Ed> Bluecat - 1 - make sure you know all your hardware/devices
[03 Jan/10:59] <pyrokiwi> but his bro set it up and his bro prob know more then anyone here
[03 Jan/11:00] <Big`Ed> Bluecat - 2 - boot to dos with win98 boot disk, run FDISK, DELETE PARTITION DATA
[03 Jan/11:00] <SITH> the network betwen the pc is working
[03 Jan/11:00] <devilDigg> oh.. 
[03 Jan/11:00] <Big`Ed> Bluecat - 3 - reboot with disk, reset partition with FDISK, FORMAT C: /S , run setup from CD
[03 Jan/11:00] <devilDigg> then i would suggest you get: sql server
[03 Jan/11:01] <Big`Ed> Bluecat - 4 - (ok i'm off) check all devices - run windowsupdate to update all updates
[03 Jan/11:01] <SITH> what is sql server?
[03 Jan/11:01] <Bluecat> ok thanks
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[03 Jan/11:01] <devilDigg> a program that will help you get proxy up
[03 Jan/11:01] <Bluecat> i will return let ya knowz
[03 Jan/11:01] <SITH> where can i find it?
[03 Jan/11:01] <devilDigg> in nt server you use it to give your workstations be they win9x or nt workstation internet access through the server
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[03 Jan/11:02] <devilDigg> you have to buy it.. it comes on cds
[03 Jan/11:02] <Big`Ed> win98se - ICS - shares internet fine
[03 Jan/11:02] <SITH> ok 
[03 Jan/11:02] < SignOff: C20H25N3O!resurrect@153.jaxn.com ("... One of these days, I'm gonna cutchya into little piece's ..." Pink Floyd)
[03 Jan/11:02] <SITH> see u tomorow
[03 Jan/11:02] <SITH> bye
[03 Jan/11:02] <SITH> and thanks anyway
[03 Jan/11:03] <devilDigg> np
[03 Jan/11:03] <pyrokiwi> syas
[03 Jan/11:03] <Big`Ed> jezzzz
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[03 Jan/11:03] <Big`Ed> everyones being a pain
[03 Jan/11:03] <pyrokiwi> >?<
[03 Jan/11:03] <pyrokiwi> explain
[03 Jan/11:04] <Big`Ed> users
[03 Jan/11:04] <pyrokiwi> huh?
[03 Jan/11:04] <Big`Ed> like c20h25n30 dude
[03 Jan/11:04] <Big`Ed> 'how do i hack my registry'
[03 Jan/11:04] <pyrokiwi> yeh lol
[03 Jan/11:05] <pyrokiwi> then a guy with win95 question
[03 Jan/11:05] <Big`Ed> and the ISDN dude
[03 Jan/11:05] <pyrokiwi> oh well i gtg in a minute
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[03 Jan/11:05] <Big`Ed> and the dude with a clean install
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[03 Jan/11:05] <pyrokiwi> that guy is weird isdn wat do i need who uses it.....
[03 Jan/11:05] <[B]LaZe> someone here help me with blackICE firewall?
[03 Jan/11:05] <Big`Ed> like how?
[03 Jan/11:06] <pyrokiwi> never heard of it sorry
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[03 Jan/11:07] <pyrokiwi> sya ppls i gtg bbl
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[03 Jan/11:09] <NeoGamlin> Hey.
[03 Jan/11:10] @ mode #win98 [+v NeoGamlin] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[03 Jan/11:10] <NeoGamlin> Can someone send me msoe.dll?
[03 Jan/11:10] ! TORINOBRB is known as TORINO
[03 Jan/11:10] <Big`Ed> see TOPIC and ask again
[03 Jan/11:10] <NeoGamlin> It's not a file.
[03 Jan/11:11] <Big`Ed> it is on your win98 cd stored as a file
[03 Jan/11:11] <Big`Ed> and how does one send something that is not a 'file'
[03 Jan/11:11] <NeoGamlin> Easily.
[03 Jan/11:11] <NeoGamlin> I'm sending you stuff right now.
[03 Jan/11:11] <NeoGamlin> Packets.
[03 Jan/11:11] <NeoGamlin> They are headers and information.
[03 Jan/11:11] <NeoGamlin> Not files.
[03 Jan/11:11] <Azmodan> fine NeoGamlin
[03 Jan/11:11] <Big`Ed> ok, you are typing ascii text on your screen
[03 Jan/11:11] <Azmodan> msoe.dll
[03 Jan/11:11] <Azmodan> did you get that packet
[03 Jan/11:11] <Big`Ed> true
[03 Jan/11:11] <Azmodan> go and use it
[03 Jan/11:12] <Big`Ed> and a 'dynamic link libary' is part of a file infrasturcture
[03 Jan/11:12] <NeoGamlin> It's not ascii text, actually.
[03 Jan/11:12] <Azmodan> the packet payload for irc is in ascii text thank you very much
[03 Jan/11:12] <Big`Ed> do you have a problem with using your windows 98 cd for the source of the FILE you are looking for?
[03 Jan/11:12] <Big`Ed> what is a file
[03 Jan/11:13] <Big`Ed> w98 what is a file
[03 Jan/11:13] <NeoGamlin> No.
[03 Jan/11:13] <w98> big`ed: no idea
[03 Jan/11:13] <NeoGamlin> msoe.dll is not on my win98 cd.
[03 Jan/11:13] <NeoGamlin> It doesn't have outlook express 5.
[03 Jan/11:13] <Big`Ed> then you download outlook express again from windowsupdate site
[03 Jan/11:13] <NeoGamlin> I don't want to lose my information.
[03 Jan/11:14] <Azmodan> NeoGamlin, download it again, your on a fast cable modem
[03 Jan/11:14] <Big`Ed> you won't
[03 Jan/11:14] <NeoGamlin> I can't find oe5 on the microsoft site anyways.
[03 Jan/11:14] <NeoGamlin> It's bullshit.
[03 Jan/11:14] <NeoGamlin> It wants to upgrade me.
[03 Jan/11:14] <NeoGamlin> It thinks it's helping..
[03 Jan/11:14] <Azmodan> oi language
[03 Jan/11:14] <NeoGamlin> Sorry.
[03 Jan/11:14] <NeoGamlin> Wasn't aware that everyone here is easily offended.
[03 Jan/11:14] <Azmodan> no offence, its a channel rule
[03 Jan/11:15] <Azmodan> read the rest of the topic
[03 Jan/11:15] <NeoGamlin> Rules have reasons, no?
[03 Jan/11:15] <Big`Ed> if you can't find OE5 on microsoft - you are not looking very hard
[03 Jan/11:15] <Big`Ed> what purpose does your cussing have in helping you?
[03 Jan/11:15] + Azmodan will not have any discussions on the rules
[03 Jan/11:16] <NeoGamlin> Nothing whatsoever.
[03 Jan/11:16] <Big`Ed> it will help you leave the channel faster
[03 Jan/11:16] <NeoGamlin> It was merely an elaboration on my discontent.
[03 Jan/11:16] <NeoGamlin> So far you have been of no aid, no offense intended, so it doesn't bug me that much.
[03 Jan/11:16] <Big`Ed> and this is not the place to express your personal feelings in that manner
[03 Jan/11:16] <devilDigg> hi Azmodan
[03 Jan/11:16] <NeoGamlin> Excuse me.
[03 Jan/11:16] <Azmodan> we adivised you on how to fix your problem. So I guess that is not helpfull
[03 Jan/11:16] <Azmodan> hiya devilDigg 
[03 Jan/11:17] <NeoGamlin> It's fairly easy to say "go download it".
[03 Jan/11:17] <jet350> www.download.com
[03 Jan/11:17] <Big`Ed> well - per the microsoft license, that is the only legal source for a microsoft FILE
[03 Jan/11:17] <Azmodan> its also fairly easy to find it to download.  I'm no ones personal search engine
[03 Jan/11:17] <NeoGamlin> Thanks.
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[03 Jan/11:18] <Big`Ed> hehe
[03 Jan/11:18] <Big`Ed> main menu has a direct link to download center
[03 Jan/11:18] <Big`Ed> and it is listed there
[03 Jan/11:18] <Big`Ed> duh
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[03 Jan/11:18] <jet350> hehe
[03 Jan/11:19] <Big`Ed> jet350 - windowsupdate / microsoft is the prefered site for actual microsoft software
[03 Jan/11:20] <Trinity^> could anyone help me with a multiple monitor question?
[03 Jan/11:21] <Big`Ed> can try
[03 Jan/11:21] <Trinity^> ok
[03 Jan/11:21] <Trinity^> I have two vid cards in, its working ok, but if I try to set my ATI rage to be the primary, the matrox wont work
[03 Jan/11:21] <Trinity^> if I set the matrox primary, they both do what they are supposed
[03 Jan/11:21] <Trinity^> but the matrox sucks, I want my ati rage to be primary
[03 Jan/11:22] <Trinity^> the rage is agp
[03 Jan/11:22] <Trinity^> and the martrox is pci
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[03 Jan/11:22] <Big`Ed> well - traditionally - if i remember the multimonitor stuff - agp has to be secondary
[03 Jan/11:23] <Big`Ed> unless your motherboard allows you to switch them
[03 Jan/11:23] <Big`Ed> as mine does
[03 Jan/11:23] <Trinity^> mine says init video first
[03 Jan/11:23] <Trinity^> and the options are agp and pci
[03 Jan/11:24] <Trinity^> but if I set agp first, *only* the ati works
[03 Jan/11:24] <Trinity^> no multi monitor
[03 Jan/11:24] <Trinity^> if the pci is set init first
[03 Jan/11:24] <Trinity^> then they both work
[03 Jan/11:24] <Big`Ed> correct - that is the nature of the multi
[03 Jan/11:24] <Trinity^> so the agp can't be the primary?
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[03 Jan/11:25] <Big`Ed> there is some good text info on that on support.microsoft.com
[03 Jan/11:26] <Big`Ed> it goest o if the motherboard supports it being primary
[03 Jan/11:26] <Trinity^> is that what that "init display first" is for?
[03 Jan/11:27] <Big`Ed> yes - which one init's first
[03 Jan/11:27] <Trinity^> if I set it to AGP
[03 Jan/11:27] <Trinity^> only the rage agp works
[03 Jan/11:27] <Trinity^> if I set it to pci both work 
[03 Jan/11:28] <Trinity^> but the agp is the one I want primary
[03 Jan/11:28] <Big`Ed> have you read microsofts stuff on multi?
[03 Jan/11:28] <Big`Ed> agp as primary is NOT norm
[03 Jan/11:28] <Big`Ed> i had to trick mine to do it
[03 Jan/11:28] <Big`Ed> and the doc's say i should not be able to do it
[03 Jan/11:29] <Trinity^> how did you do it?
[03 Jan/11:30] <Big`Ed> in my case, i have a ati as the agp
[03 Jan/11:30] <Big`Ed> and a diamond as pci
[03 Jan/11:31] <Big`Ed> i set the ati as pri on mb
[03 Jan/11:31] <Big`Ed> and then forced the diamond in as secondary in pci - inside windows (after freeing up conflicts)
[03 Jan/11:32] <Trinity^> hrrrm
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[03 Jan/11:33] <Azmodan> hi ree
[03 Jan/11:34] <reebok> hey az
[03 Jan/11:34] <Big`Ed> hi ree
[03 Jan/11:34] <reebok> hey ed
[03 Jan/11:37] <Big`Ed> shame someone does NOT read the TOPIC and follows the rules
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[03 Jan/11:37] <reebok> ?
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[03 Jan/11:38] <Big`Ed> not YOU
[03 Jan/11:38] <Big`Ed> silly
[03 Jan/11:39] <reebok> hehe
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[03 Jan/11:39] <Trinity^> are you still here Big Ed?
[03 Jan/11:39] <Big`Ed> sure i am HERE and on channel
[03 Jan/11:39] <Trinity^> ok
[03 Jan/11:40] <Big`Ed> do YOU see the topic - with our rulez in it?
[03 Jan/11:40] <Trinity^> no
[03 Jan/11:40] <Trinity^> where?? Did I break some rule?
[03 Jan/11:40] <reebok> thanks zeus
[03 Jan/11:40] <reebok> ;)
[03 Jan/11:40] <Azmodan> ùíù Topic (#win98): Premier Win98 Tech-Help-N-Chat Channel|NO:Warez,Files,
[03 Jan/11:40] <Azmodan>           /MSG's,Cussing,Keys,etc (look.4.new.info.bot.here)
[03 Jan/11:40] <Azmodan> ùíù Topic (#win98): set by W at Mon Jan  3 11:18:25 2000
[03 Jan/11:40] <Trinity^> Im sorry if I did...??
[03 Jan/11:40] <Big`Ed> you do NOT see a topic
[03 Jan/11:41] <Big`Ed> 14:18:08 <join> Trinity^ (Raven@usr3-d43.stk.cwnet.com) has JOINED #win98 2:18pm PDT
[03 Jan/11:41] <Big`Ed> 14:18:10 (·topic·) W changes topic in #win98 "Premier Win98 Tech-Help-N-Chat Channel|NO:Warez,Files,/MSG's,Cussing,Keys,etc (look.4.new.info.bot.here)"
[03 Jan/11:41] <Big`Ed> -
[03 Jan/11:41] <Trinity^> no the monitor that is displaying right now is not sized right
[03 Jan/11:41] <Trinity^> I only see half of this channel
[03 Jan/11:41] <Trinity^> hehehe
[03 Jan/11:41] <Trinity^> oh
[03 Jan/11:41] <Trinity^> MSGs..
[03 Jan/11:41] <Trinity^> I'm sorry!
[03 Jan/11:41] <Big`Ed> it was displayed on channel - when you joined
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[03 Jan/11:42] <Trinity^> Ok, I guess I didnt look at it the first time..
[03 Jan/11:42] <Trinity^> sorry :-/
[03 Jan/11:44] <Trinity^> So can I reask my question?
[03 Jan/11:44] <Trinity^> in channel :-)
[03 Jan/11:45] <Big`Ed> have you read the microsoft stuff on multimonitors?
[03 Jan/11:45] <Trinity^> yes
[03 Jan/11:45] <Trinity^> It's really no use, they just offer some q and a
[03 Jan/11:45] <Trinity^> none of it really applies to my situation
[03 Jan/11:45] <Big`Ed> i would start out with only the agp drivers installed and working
[03 Jan/11:45] <Trinity^> At least nothing I have seen so far
[03 Jan/11:45] <Big`Ed> and a single monitor functioning
[03 Jan/11:46] <Big`Ed> no other drivers
[03 Jan/11:46] <Big`Ed> then add your pci secondary
[03 Jan/11:46] <Trinity^> ok
[03 Jan/11:46] <Big`Ed> and see if win98 picks it up as a secondary
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[03 Jan/11:46] <Trinity^> Ok, Ill try that
[03 Jan/11:47] <Trinity^> but if it doesn't?
[03 Jan/11:47] <Big`Ed> if it doesn't - come back with the exact message
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[03 Jan/11:48] <Trinity^> alright
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[03 Jan/11:49] <Sharkez> how configure windows for support more than one user. the different users can't access mail for other user?
[03 Jan/11:49] <GrungeMan> i'd like to know what's the difference if i upgrade my RAM and if I upgrade my cpu to a better one...?
[03 Jan/11:49] <Big`Ed> multi-user
[03 Jan/11:49] <Big`Ed> and login passwords
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[03 Jan/11:50] <Big`Ed> GrungeMan - what is your ram and what is your cpu, and what is your HD capacity?
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[03 Jan/11:50] <Sharkez> i had tried it but the different user have different address book, but no different inbox, outbox etc...
[03 Jan/11:50] <Tara2> has somebody tryed boot magic
[03 Jan/11:51] <Big`Ed> no Tara2
[03 Jan/11:51] <Big`Ed> Sharkez - in oe5 it works fine here
[03 Jan/11:51] <Big`Ed> Sharkez - you have to use 'identies'
[03 Jan/11:51] <Sharkez> oe5? do you use outlook express?
[03 Jan/11:52] <Big`Ed> yes
[03 Jan/11:52] <GrungeMan> ...
[03 Jan/11:52] <GrungeMan> i'd like to know what's the difference if i upgrade my RAM and if I upgrade my cpu to a better one...?
[03 Jan/11:52] <Big`Ed> and i have several users setup
[03 Jan/11:52] <Tara2> someone tryed dualbooting
[03 Jan/11:52] <GrungeMan> wait
[03 Jan/11:52] <GrungeMan> me?
[03 Jan/11:52] <Big`Ed> GrungeMan - it depends on what i asked back
[03 Jan/11:53] <Big`Ed> GrungeMan - if you have 128mb of ram and a 486 - obviously the cpu needs upgrading
[03 Jan/11:53] <Big`Ed> GrungeMan - what is your cpu/ram/and / hd
[03 Jan/11:53] <Big`Ed> Tara2 - i don't do dualboots
[03 Jan/11:53] <Big`Ed> Tara2 - this is a win98 support channel
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[03 Jan/11:54] <Xanta> Hello ! Anyone familiar with the usage of two screencards in Win98 ?
[03 Jan/11:55] <Big`Ed> sorta
[03 Jan/11:56] <Tara2> i have two drives and want to try win98
[03 Jan/11:56] <Big`Ed> Tara2 - win98 installs easy to the default c: drive
[03 Jan/11:56] <Big`Ed> what OS are you using?
[03 Jan/11:57] <Tara2> there i have win95
[03 Jan/11:57] <Azmodan> w98 no, Azmodan is off eating his lunch
[03 Jan/11:57] <w98> okay, Azmodan.
[03 Jan/11:57] <Xanta> I use CL Geforce256 and Matrox Mystique 4MB. This works fine when the Matrox card is the boot-card, but when I boot with the Geforce card, the system tells me that the driver does not support multiple monitors. (But it works just fine the other way around)
[03 Jan/11:58] <Big`Ed> and you only want to 'try' - expensive purchase for a test
[03 Jan/11:58] <Big`Ed> xanta - that is prob a agp / pci - issue
[03 Jan/11:58] <Big`Ed> Xanta and win98 prefers the Pci card to be primary
[03 Jan/11:59] <GrungeMan> what's the difference if i upgrade my RAM memory and if I upgrade my cpu to a better one...?
[03 Jan/11:59] <Big`Ed> GrungeMan - i answered you 3 times!!!
[03 Jan/11:59] <Xanta> Big`Ed: I can choose this AGP/PCI as boot in the BIOS, but the Matrox does not want to be the "slave" card. I've heard that it'll work fine with an ATI-card.
[03 Jan/12:00] <GrungeMan> arrg, nobody can answer me?
[03 Jan/12:00] <Big`Ed> well - i have a ati card running as primary (agp) and a dimond as secondary
[03 Jan/12:00] <Xanta> GrungeMan: Buy more RAM first.
[03 Jan/12:00] <Big`Ed> and i had to do the bios change
[03 Jan/12:00] <Xanta> OK
[03 Jan/12:01] <Big`Ed> he is lagged out
[03 Jan/12:01] <Xanta> Maybe this is a driver/firmware-problem...
[03 Jan/12:01] <Big`Ed> but to get it to work, you must have only the primary detected/working
[03 Jan/12:01] <Big`Ed> and then add the secondary card to the hardware slot, and let win98 pick it up
[03 Jan/12:01] <Big`Ed> not have both installed
[03 Jan/12:02] <Big`Ed> and switch
[03 Jan/12:02] <Tara2> i shall buy an matrox videocard to my machine and have an hercules card in the machine already
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[03 Jan/12:02] <Big`Ed> good Tara2
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[03 Jan/12:02] <NeoGamlin> I've been "attempting" to navigate the microsoft site.
[03 Jan/12:03] <NeoGamlin> I "have" been looking hard and can not find a link ANYWHERE FOR OE5
[03 Jan/12:03] <Big`Ed> hold on
[03 Jan/12:03] <Big`Ed> NeoGamlin
[03 Jan/12:03] <Xanta> Tried that, but 98 won't let the Matrox be the slave card. I have tried to switch hot/cold, and it always works with the Geforce AGP card that was first installed, as slave. Not vice versa.
[03 Jan/12:03] <NeoGamlin> Ok.
[03 Jan/12:03] <Tara2> will it work i will have a p chance two use two screens
[03 Jan/12:03] <Big`Ed> Xanta - there is certain hardware that win98 won't do
[03 Jan/12:03] <Big`Ed> check support.microsoft.com for that info
[03 Jan/12:04] <Xanta> OK. Thanks.
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[03 Jan/12:05] <NeoGamlin> ...
[03 Jan/12:05] <NeoGamlin> It's a freaking pain.
[03 Jan/12:05] <GrungeMan> hmm ok
[03 Jan/12:05] <GrungeMan> if mu friend got a p166 with 8mb of ram...
[03 Jan/12:05] <GrungeMan> (don't laugh)
[03 Jan/12:05] <GrungeMan> would his comp go really slowly?
[03 Jan/12:05] <NeoGamlin> Fairly.
[03 Jan/12:06] <Big`Ed> NeoGamlin - OE5 is only avaialbe with IE5
[03 Jan/12:06] <NeoGamlin> Ok.
[03 Jan/12:06] <NeoGamlin> I have it.
[03 Jan/12:06] <GrungeMan> k
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[03 Jan/12:07] <Big`Ed> http://www.microsoft.com/msdownload/iebuild/ie501_win32/en/ie501_win32.htm?FinishURL=%2Fdownloads%2Frelease%2Easp%3FReleaseID%3D15568%26redirect%3Dno
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[03 Jan/12:09] <pyrokiwi> hiya ppls
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[03 Jan/12:09] <NeoGamlin> Thanks, dude.
[03 Jan/12:09] <NeoGamlin> Much appreciated.
[03 Jan/12:09] <NeoGamlin> Have a happy new year.
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[03 Jan/12:16] <Tara2> i must go bye all
[03 Jan/12:17] <pyrokiwi> sya
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[03 Jan/12:18] <Big`Ed> wb da az
[03 Jan/12:18] <Azmodan> thx
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[03 Jan/12:19] <Trinity77> hi again
[03 Jan/12:19] <gunnar24> any one know anything about installing and operating 2 netw.-cards in one pc
[03 Jan/12:19] <Trinity77> Big Ed: "Windows will attempt to restart without checking your computers hardware."
[03 Jan/12:19] <pyrokiwi> wat 4?
[03 Jan/12:20] <Big`Ed> sure gunnar24
[03 Jan/12:20] <Big`Ed> Trinity77 - you have only the primary card installed physically and detected?
[03 Jan/12:20] <Big`Ed> and no other hardware/drivers?
[03 Jan/12:21] <Trinity77> I started by reinstalling the ati rage
[03 Jan/12:21] <Trinity77> fresh
[03 Jan/12:21] <Trinity77> then I added the matrox
[03 Jan/12:21] <Trinity77> thats what it says under the properties for it 
[03 Jan/12:21] <Big`Ed> single card, single detected only right?
[03 Jan/12:21] <Trinity77> (it had a yello ! on it)
[03 Jan/12:21] <Trinity77> yes
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[03 Jan/12:22] <Big`Ed> that property should NOT have existed when you plugged it in
[03 Jan/12:22] <Big`Ed> it did a detect then right?
[03 Jan/12:22] <gunnar24> i have one computer with 2 cards 1 10mb and 1 100mb but the computer conected to the 10mb line want comunicate with the on 100mb ?? i have tryed everyting 
[03 Jan/12:22] <Trinity77> yes
[03 Jan/12:23] <Trinity77> when I restarted after installing the 2nd card
[03 Jan/12:23] <gunnar24> any tips
[03 Jan/12:23] <Big`Ed> gunnar24 - describe the setups on both
[03 Jan/12:23] <Big`Ed> Trinity77 - and the conflict on second card with the ! is?
[03 Jan/12:23] <Trinity77> I dont know, the properties on the ! says "Windows will attempt to restart without checking your computers hardware."
[03 Jan/12:24] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm
[03 Jan/12:24] <Big`Ed> Trinity77 - where do you see this message at?
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[03 Jan/12:24] <Meatman31> Hey Ed
[03 Jan/12:24] <Trinity77> in the properties for the second card.. the one with the !
[03 Jan/12:24] <Big`Ed> hi Meatman31
[03 Jan/12:25] <Meatman31> whats up tonight
[03 Jan/12:25] <gunnar24> i have 2 workgroop names one for 100mb and one for 10mb and i have set up gateway ...
[03 Jan/12:25] <Big`Ed> ip info gunnar24
[03 Jan/12:25] <Big`Ed> not much Meatman31 - you?
[03 Jan/12:25] <pyrokiwi> tonight?
[03 Jan/12:25] <pyrokiwi> hehe
[03 Jan/12:26] <Meatman31> not much lately
[03 Jan/12:26] <Big`Ed> Trinity77 - you are under the display adaptor, and that is in front of the card?
[03 Jan/12:26] <Meatman31> looks like I came in at the wrong time
[03 Jan/12:26] <pyrokiwi> y?
[03 Jan/12:26] <Big`Ed> Trinity77 - and can you get the properties?
[03 Jan/12:26] <Trinity77> yes
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[03 Jan/12:26] <Big`Ed> can you get to the resource tab?
[03 Jan/12:26] <Meatman31> I tried to get to network cards to work in one machine for a couple of months and had to give up for a while.
[03 Jan/12:27] <Trinity77> yes
[03 Jan/12:27] <Trinity77> drivers and resources
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[03 Jan/12:27] <Meatman31> hearing some one else trying it will make me want to try again.
[03 Jan/12:27] <Fonts> # Appears as KEVIN
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[03 Jan/12:27] <Big`Ed> 2 nic's can work using TCP/IP but they have to be on seperate IP's DOMAIN's
[03 Jan/12:27] <gunnar24> on the 100mb ip=100.100.100.101 and mask 250.0.0.0 server 100.100.100.100 mask 250.0.0.0 and 10mb ip 100.100.100.102 mask 250.0.0.0
[03 Jan/12:27] <Big`Ed> Trinity77 - and that message is in the middle of 'general' ?
[03 Jan/12:28] <Trinity77> yes
[03 Jan/12:28] <Big`Ed> gunnar24 - where did you get those domains/ip's
[03 Jan/12:29] <Big`Ed> gunnar24 - try www.helmig.com for proper ip config
[03 Jan/12:29] <Big`Ed> you have all 4 cards on the SAME IP subnet
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[03 Jan/12:30] <Big`Ed> 100.100.100.100, 101, 102,
[03 Jan/12:30] <Deton8R> aloha, g33x
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[03 Jan/12:30] <Big`Ed> hi Deton8R
[03 Jan/12:30] <gunnar24> yes
[03 Jan/12:30] <Deton8R> hey, ed
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[03 Jan/12:30] <Deton8R> here's one for ya
[03 Jan/12:30] <Deton8R> have you ever had a problem with that ip scheme of yours...having subnet problems?
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[03 Jan/12:31] <pyrokiwi> hmmm getting 22megs of windows updates
[03 Jan/12:31] <Deton8R> that's small
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[03 Jan/12:31] <Big`Ed> ip scheme of mine?
[03 Jan/12:31] <Deton8R> -up
[03 Jan/12:31] <pyrokiwi> yeh it is actually
[03 Jan/12:32] <pyrokiwi> i am getting a lot though cause i decided to get all ie ones
[03 Jan/12:32] <Big`Ed> Trinity77 - do you see conflicts in the resource tab?
[03 Jan/12:33] <Trinity77>  ed: no, no conflicts
[03 Jan/12:33] <pyrokiwi> gtg sya
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[03 Jan/12:34] <Big`Ed> Trinity77 - delete the detected card with with the ! - and reboot again
[03 Jan/12:34] <Trinity77> ok
[03 Jan/12:34] <Trinity77> what about when it redetects
[03 Jan/12:34] <Trinity77> should I cancel?
[03 Jan/12:35] <Big`Ed> yes
[03 Jan/12:35] <Trinity77> ok
[03 Jan/12:35] <Trinity77> brb
[03 Jan/12:35] <Big`Ed> and then install OEM drivers
[03 Jan/12:35] <Trinity77> ok
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[03 Jan/12:35] <pan---> where is the Program Vendor?
[03 Jan/12:36] <Big`Ed> as in what? pan
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[03 Jan/12:36] <pan---> well..
[03 Jan/12:36] <pan---> i cannot close an error ( illegal operation )
[03 Jan/12:36] <pan---> and it says to contact the program vendor
[03 Jan/12:36] <Big`Ed> ok
[03 Jan/12:37] <Big`Ed> the vendor - is the person who you bought the program from
[03 Jan/12:37] <pan---> ..
[03 Jan/12:37] <pan---> ok
[03 Jan/12:37] <Big`Ed> ie Microsoft is the vendor for windows 98
[03 Jan/12:37] <pan---> oh
[03 Jan/12:37] <pan---> hmm
[03 Jan/12:37] <pan---> i ll have to restard my pc?
[03 Jan/12:37] <Big`Ed> yes - any time you get that error -yes
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[03 Jan/12:45] <phoenixli> hi
[03 Jan/12:45] <phoenixli> does any1 know how to get a fat32 drive back to normal?
[03 Jan/12:45] <phoenixli> helloooo?????
[03 Jan/12:45] <Big`Ed> fat32 is normal in win98
[03 Jan/12:46] <Big`Ed> hello
[03 Jan/12:46] <phoenixli> yeh?
[03 Jan/12:46] <Big`Ed> so what is the problem?
[03 Jan/12:46] <phoenixli> how do i take fat32 off?
[03 Jan/12:46] <Big`Ed> fdisk
[03 Jan/12:46] <phoenixli> ?
[03 Jan/12:46] <phoenixli> fdisk?
[03 Jan/12:46] <Big`Ed> repartition without fat32 support
[03 Jan/12:47] <Big`Ed> ala - fat16 (win95 mode)
[03 Jan/12:47] <Big`Ed> don't know why
[03 Jan/12:47] <phoenixli> the only reason i want fat32 off
[03 Jan/12:47] <phoenixli> is so i can compress my c: drive
[03 Jan/12:47] <Big`Ed> not smart either
[03 Jan/12:47] <phoenixli> it wont let me in fat32
[03 Jan/12:47] <phoenixli> why?
[03 Jan/12:47] <Big`Ed> in these days of very cheap hard drives
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[03 Jan/12:48] <phoenixli> ..........
[03 Jan/12:48] <Big`Ed> drive compression slows down a pc alot
[03 Jan/12:48] <phoenixli> ......ah
[03 Jan/12:48] <phoenixli> ic
[03 Jan/12:48] <phoenixli> ive run out of space....what do u suggest
[03 Jan/12:48] <Big`Ed> and if a error happens in the 'compressed' drive - all is gone
[03 Jan/12:48] <Big`Ed> how big is your HD?
[03 Jan/12:48] <phoenixli> oooooooo
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[03 Jan/12:49] <phoenixli> ummmmmmmmmmmm
[03 Jan/12:49] <phoenixli> shit i forgot
[03 Jan/12:49] <Big`Ed> GB, 1, 2, 4, 8
[03 Jan/12:50] <phoenixli> hold on a sec
[03 Jan/12:50] <Big`Ed> NO CUSSING
[03 Jan/12:50] <phoenixli> 8.4 gb
[03 Jan/12:50] <phoenixli> sorry
[03 Jan/12:50] <Big`Ed> if you are out of space - with that big of a HD - you have too much junk on it
[03 Jan/12:50] <Big`Ed> need to purge stuff
[03 Jan/12:50] <phoenixli> mm
[03 Jan/12:50] <Big`Ed> downloads
[03 Jan/12:50] <Big`Ed> temp files
[03 Jan/12:51] <Big`Ed> programs you no longer use
[03 Jan/12:51] <phoenixli> yuh
[03 Jan/12:51] <Big`Ed> win98 by itself only uses about 300MB
[03 Jan/12:51] <phoenixli> done that
[03 Jan/12:51] <Big`Ed> office97 takes another 200 max
[03 Jan/12:51] <Deton8R> well, then go get another hard drive...
[03 Jan/12:51] <Deton8R> they're cheap now
[03 Jan/12:51] <Big`Ed> most all microsoft app's fit in a 1GB partition
[03 Jan/12:51] <phoenixli> how many mb to a gb?
[03 Jan/12:51] <Big`Ed> so you have 7 gb's of 'other stuff' there
[03 Jan/12:52] <Big`Ed> 1000
[03 Jan/12:52] <phoenixli> wwwoooohhhhhhhh
[03 Jan/12:52] <phoenixli> ic
[03 Jan/12:52] ! medic_nz is known as medicshwr
[03 Jan/12:52] <phoenixli> i havent got tat much stuff
[03 Jan/12:52] <Big`Ed> do you download a lot of stuff from the internet?
[03 Jan/12:52] <Big`Ed> files, pictures, etc...
[03 Jan/12:52] <phoenixli> yup
[03 Jan/12:52] <phoenixli> yeh
[03 Jan/12:52] <Big`Ed> there you go
[03 Jan/12:52] <Big`Ed> use windows explore and look at some of the sizes of your files
[03 Jan/12:52] <phoenixli> but mostly small
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[03 Jan/12:53] <phoenixli> like cracks,pics etc
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[03 Jan/12:53] <Big`Ed> stored on pc
[03 Jan/12:53] <phoenixli> goood idea
[03 Jan/12:53] <phoenixli> thanx
[03 Jan/12:53] <phoenixli> sya
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[03 Jan/12:54] <Big`Ed> man
[03 Jan/12:54] <Deton8R> probably all smut
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[03 Jan/12:57] <Big`Ed> hahah
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[03 Jan/12:57] <Big`Ed> what a NIC
[03 Jan/12:57] <Big`Ed> what a NICK
[03 Jan/12:57] @ mode #win98 [+v OSU-Okie] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[03 Jan/12:57] <OSU-Okie> Hi!
[03 Jan/12:57] <Big`Ed> hahah
[03 Jan/12:57] <Big`Ed> what a NICK
[03 Jan/12:57] <OSU-Okie> I am having problems wiht Internet Explorer, can someone help?
[03 Jan/12:57] <Deton8R> geez
[03 Jan/12:58] <Deton8R> geez, confess to inbreeding
[03 Jan/12:58] <Big`Ed> like?
[03 Jan/12:58] ! pyroaway is known as pyrokiwi
[03 Jan/12:58] <pyrokiwi> back
[03 Jan/12:59] <Big`Ed> wb
[03 Jan/12:59] <OSU-Okie> Well.. Since I installed the new Internet Explorer (from the Office 2000 CD) it won't open GIF files or JPG's... How can I make it still do that? 
[03 Jan/12:59] <pyrokiwi> hmmm
[03 Jan/13:00] <OSU-Okie> any ideas? 
[03 Jan/13:00] <Big`Ed> OSU-Okie - you are using windows 98?
[03 Jan/13:00] <OSU-Okie> nope
[03 Jan/13:00] <OSU-Okie> Windows 95
[03 Jan/13:00] <pyrokiwi> tools-internet options
[03 Jan/13:00] <pyrokiwi> then click on advanced
[03 Jan/13:00] <Big`Ed> try #windows95 then
[03 Jan/13:00] <pyrokiwi> there should be an option -show pictures
[03 Jan/13:00] <Big`Ed> this is a windows 98 channel
[03 Jan/13:00] <Big`Ed> duh
[03 Jan/13:01] <pyrokiwi> gtg sya
[03 Jan/13:01] <Big`Ed> bye
[03 Jan/13:01] <pyrokiwi> sya
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[03 Jan/13:02] <Big`Ed> osu, okie, and aol - is not enough - now you come to a windows98 channel and ask for help on a non windows 98 program
[03 Jan/13:02] <OSU-Okie> THere are no Windows 95 channels I can get in.
[03 Jan/13:02] <Big`Ed> duh
[03 Jan/13:02] <Big`Ed> take your ford car to mazda dealers for repairs too?
[03 Jan/13:03] <OSU-Okie> *I* am not the moron who banned all the AOL people from all those channels and Dalnet...
[03 Jan/13:03] <Big`Ed> well - asking questions in a non 95 channel - is moronic
[03 Jan/13:03] <Big`Ed> especially when you never said it upfront
[03 Jan/13:04] <OSU-Okie> I would have to be hard up before I would have a Ford, and would  puch a chevy before I would have a MAzda.
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[03 Jan/13:04] <OSU-Okie> I thought you'd be smart enough to help with Win 95 as well.. my mistake.
[03 Jan/13:04] <Big`Ed> good luck on your problme
[03 Jan/13:04] <Big`Ed> problem
[03 Jan/13:04] <Big`Ed> bye
[03 Jan/13:05] * Big`Ed sticks to this channels topic
[03 Jan/13:05] <Big`Ed> rulz
[03 Jan/13:05] <OSU-Okie> Any DECENT people who can help in here? 
[03 Jan/13:05] <Big`Ed> excuse me?
[03 Jan/13:05] <Big`Ed> a decent person would NOT violate channel rules
[03 Jan/13:06] <Big`Ed> -kick OSU-Okie
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[03 Jan/13:06] <Big`Ed> `say
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[03 Jan/13:06] <Trinity77> ED: same thing.
[03 Jan/13:07] <Big`Ed> you may be out of luck then
[03 Jan/13:07] <Big`Ed> you tried to install with newest OEM drivers from card site?
[03 Jan/13:07] <Trinity77> yes 
[03 Jan/13:07] <Trinity77> direct from matrox.com
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[03 Jan/13:08] <Big`Ed> then perhaps you can NOT trick it to work backwards - contrary to microsoft's explicit instructions that say you can't do it this way
[03 Jan/13:08] <OSU-Okie> Can anyone in here help me with Internet Explorer? 
[03 Jan/13:09] <Big`Ed> OSU-Okie - we Do NOT do windows 95 here
[03 Jan/13:09] <Trinity77> hmmm
[03 Jan/13:09] <Big`Ed> do you NOT understand the channel rules?
[03 Jan/13:09] <OSU-Okie> Internet Explorer has JACK to do with what Windows I am running.
[03 Jan/13:09] <OSU-Okie> idiot...
[03 Jan/13:09] <Big`Ed> -kb OSU-Okie
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[03 Jan/13:10] <Trinity77> ok, well, let me mess around with it...
[03 Jan/13:10] <Trinity77> thanks for the help Big Ed.. and sorry again about msging you
[03 Jan/13:10] <Big`Ed> sorry trinity
[03 Jan/13:10] <Big`Ed> okies
[03 Jan/13:10] <Trinity77> take care :-)
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[03 Jan/13:15] <target200> can  someone  send me the win98 start disk
[03 Jan/13:16] <Big`Ed> like?
[03 Jan/13:16] <Big`Ed> how?
[03 Jan/13:16] <target200> like a zip file
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[03 Jan/13:16] <Big`Ed> that would be in violation of the topic dude
[03 Jan/13:16] @ mode #win98 [+v BigEd] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[03 Jan/13:16] <Big`Ed> no FILES
[03 Jan/13:16] <Big`Ed> it is on your CD
[03 Jan/13:17] <Big`Ed> and makeable from any win98 box
[03 Jan/13:17] <target200> ya i know but i have nt insalled
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[03 Jan/13:17] <target200> adn i lost my win98 cd
[03 Jan/13:17] <BigEd> so you want me to do WAREZ?
[03 Jan/13:17] <BigEd> sorry
[03 Jan/13:17] <BigEd> not on this channel
[03 Jan/13:17] <BigEd> bye
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[03 Jan/13:18] <target200> come on it's only a start disk
[03 Jan/13:18] <Big`Ed> strike 2
[03 Jan/13:18] <Big`Ed> no warez
[03 Jan/13:18] <Big`Ed> that would be illegal 
[03 Jan/13:19] <target200> u know what fuck offffffffffffffffffffffffffff
[03 Jan/13:19] <Big`Ed> `kb target200
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[03 Jan/13:19] <Big`Ed> `insult target200
[03 Jan/13:19] <Big`Ed> blue on black
[03 Jan/13:19] <Big`Ed> det!
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[03 Jan/13:40] <trigger> whats the min-ram requirments for 98 
[03 Jan/13:40] @ mode #win98 [+v trigger] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[03 Jan/13:40] <trigger> 8 or 16 ?
[03 Jan/13:42] <jet350> anyone seen losguy?
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[03 Jan/13:47] <pyrokiwi> back :)
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[03 Jan/13:49] <pyrokiwi> CJ^ 
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[03 Jan/13:51] <Big`Ed> wb
[03 Jan/13:51] <Big`Ed> hi CJ^
[03 Jan/13:52] <CJ^> yo
[03 Jan/13:52] <CJ^> <<< just got a SCSI cdr handed to me...
[03 Jan/13:52] <CJ^> external.. but the PS is dead.. hehe
[03 Jan/13:52] <CJ^> BUT... goign internal...:P
[03 Jan/13:52] <Big`Ed> hehe
[03 Jan/13:53] * pyrokiwi wishes some1 would to him
[03 Jan/13:53] <CJ^> so  they gave it away.. not knowing it can be made internal..:PP
[03 Jan/13:53] <Big`Ed> most externals are internals with different hardware
[03 Jan/13:53] <Big`Ed> cheaper that way
[03 Jan/13:53] * pyrokiwi feels jealous...yet again
[03 Jan/13:54] <Big`Ed> pyrokiwi - when your 30 something - and a good geek - you'll get stuff handed to you
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[03 Jan/13:54] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm
[03 Jan/13:54] <pyrokiwi> do i want to be a geek
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[03 Jan/13:54] <CJ^> hehe
[03 Jan/13:54] <pyrokiwi> hey Deton8R i no longer feel young
[03 Jan/13:54] <pyrokiwi> woops
[03 Jan/13:54] <CJ^> now all i need are some CDR's
[03 Jan/13:54] <pyrokiwi> hey devilDigg i mean
[03 Jan/13:54] <CJ^> Sears was out  :P
[03 Jan/13:54] <Big`Ed> folks didn't give me computer hardware when i was 15
[03 Jan/13:55] <pyrokiwi> they do know?
[03 Jan/13:55] <devilDigg> hi pyro, CJ^, Azmodan, Big`Ed, mandy
[03 Jan/13:55] <Big`Ed> officemax
[03 Jan/13:55] <pyrokiwi> oficemax?
[03 Jan/13:55] <Big`Ed> for cdr's
[03 Jan/13:55] <CJ^> << broke  with a sears card  :PP
[03 Jan/13:55] <Big`Ed> ah-
[03 Jan/13:55] * pyrokiwi is getting confused now
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[03 Jan/13:56] <pyrokiwi> hey is 130kiwi 4 a 48speed cdrom a better price Big`Ed ?
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[03 Jan/13:58] <Big`Ed> don't know kiwi convert
[03 Jan/13:58] <devilDigg> bbl
[03 Jan/13:58] <Big`Ed> okies
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[03 Jan/13:59] <Big`Ed> pyrokiwi - old folk american lingo
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[03 Jan/13:59] <pyrokiwi> ok :(
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[03 Jan/13:59] <pyrokiwi> Big`Ed 1us$ = 2kiwi$ appx
[03 Jan/14:00] <CJ^> hehe
[03 Jan/14:00] <pyrokiwi> so that is appx 65us
[03 Jan/14:00] <CJ^> it works..
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[03 Jan/14:00] <pyrokiwi> the cdr?
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[03 Jan/14:00] <CJ^> well powers on
[03 Jan/14:00] <CJ^> now i gotta see if it reads...
[03 Jan/14:00] <CJ^> brb
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[03 Jan/14:00] * pyrokiwi drools with jealousy
[03 Jan/14:00] <pyrokiwi> anyway Big`Ed 65us for a NEW 48speed cdrom
[03 Jan/14:01] <Big`Ed> thats ok
[03 Jan/14:01] <pyrokiwi> wow
[03 Jan/14:01] <pyrokiwi> the funny thing is it is from like 1 of the normally most expensive shops u dont dream of going to 4 pc stuff
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[03 Jan/14:02] <Big`Ed> kewl
[03 Jan/14:02] <pyrokiwi> dicksmiths (4 Azmodan)
[03 Jan/14:02] <Big`Ed> he's away
[03 Jan/14:03] <pyrokiwi> oh but he may look
[03 Jan/14:03] <pyrokiwi> y cant he change his nick to azaway
[03 Jan/14:03] <Big`Ed> okies
[03 Jan/14:03] <Big`Ed> cuz he is Azmodan
[03 Jan/14:03] <pyrokiwi> yeh but then we would know he was away
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[03 Jan/14:04] ! pyro|away is known as pyrokiwi
[03 Jan/14:04] <pyrokiwi> see its not that hard to do a script 4
[03 Jan/14:04] <Big`Ed> hehe
[03 Jan/14:05] <pyrokiwi> u could be edaway
[03 Jan/14:05] <pyrokiwi> oh well
[03 Jan/14:05] <pyrokiwi> u guys been snowboarding?
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[03 Jan/14:05] @ mode #win98 [+v Must19] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
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[03 Jan/14:06] <Big`Ed> not i
[03 Jan/14:06] <Big`Ed> brb
[03 Jan/14:06] < SignOff: Big`Ed!BigEd@01-028.009.popsite.net (<<ÐêtóÑ8®>> v4.01 Digital Damnation Edition.)
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[03 Jan/14:06] <pyrokiwi> huh?
[03 Jan/14:06] @ mode #win98 [+v Big`Ed] by Zeus_!pegasys@tigerrose.grateful.org
[03 Jan/14:07] <pyrokiwi> the point of that?
[03 Jan/14:07] <pyrokiwi> lag or something
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[03 Jan/14:08] <pyrokiwi> ok bigeds gone mad
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[03 Jan/14:08] <pyrokiwi> u allright?
[03 Jan/14:08] <LosGuy>  <<ÐêtóÑ8®>> v4.0  Digital Damnation Edition.
[03 Jan/14:08] <Big`Ed> script adjustments
[03 Jan/14:09] <pyrokiwi> ahha
[03 Jan/14:09] <Big`Ed>  <<LósGüyPB&J>> v4.0  Digital Damnation Edition.
[03 Jan/14:09] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm
[03 Jan/14:10] <pyrokiwi> ahh no1 has tryed to nuke me :)
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[03 Jan/14:10] @ mode #win98 [+v JustKev] by Zeus_!pegasys@tigerrose.grateful.org
[03 Jan/14:11] <JustKev> Win98 boot disk don't have format.exe?
[03 Jan/14:11] <pyrokiwi> it is called fdisk
[03 Jan/14:11] <JustKev> Got a user who can only have floppy *or* cd-rom in at one time on a lappy.
[03 Jan/14:12] <pyrokiwi> so?
[03 Jan/14:12] <JustKev> We b havin fun trying to talk him through a 98 install 
[03 Jan/14:12] <pyrokiwi> lol i seee
[03 Jan/14:12] <Big`Ed> JustKev - for him - he would have to get the HD formated with floppy, and set it up to boot to HD with cd-rom drivers
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[03 Jan/14:12] <pyrokiwi> unless he has bootable cdrom drive
[03 Jan/14:13] <JustKev> 98 full version supports installation from a bootable CD?
[03 Jan/14:13] <pyrokiwi> i dunno it should do
[03 Jan/14:13] <LosGuy> JustKev it is format.com
[03 Jan/14:13] <JustKev> <---95 user.
[03 Jan/14:13] <pyrokiwi> linux does
[03 Jan/14:13] <Big`Ed> yes
[03 Jan/14:13] <Big`Ed> OEM full
[03 Jan/14:13] <pyrokiwi> ouch i scratched my leg on the dask
[03 Jan/14:13] <pyrokiwi> desk
[03 Jan/14:13] <JustKev> Interesting.
[03 Jan/14:14] <pyrokiwi> does 95 not?
[03 Jan/14:14] <JustKev> I wonder if his lappy supports booting from CD-ROM.....
[03 Jan/14:14] * JustKev asks
[03 Jan/14:14] <pyrokiwi> yeh that is hard part
[03 Jan/14:14] <pyrokiwi> never used laptop bios is it any diff?
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[03 Jan/14:14] <Big`Ed> fun fun
[03 Jan/14:14] <JustKev> No idea.
[03 Jan/14:15] <JustKev> Only lappy experience I have is a 286 and a 386.
[03 Jan/14:15] <pyrokiwi> lol i seee
[03 Jan/14:15] <JustKev> Not what you'd call vast.
[03 Jan/14:15] <pyrokiwi> only laptop i got my hands on is dads work and if i had stuffed that :(
[03 Jan/14:15] <pyrokiwi> so i didnt do anything
[03 Jan/14:15] <JustKev> And there goes the user....ping timeout.
[03 Jan/14:15] <JustKev> If you stuffed that he'd stuff you?
[03 Jan/14:16] <pyrokiwi> hmmm just about
[03 Jan/14:16] <JustKev> heh
[03 Jan/14:16] <pyrokiwi> prob make me pay $$$$$$$$$
[03 Jan/14:16] <JustKev> My brother has a nice lappy for his job.
[03 Jan/14:16] <JustKev> I should play with it some time.
[03 Jan/14:16] <JustKev> I'm bigger than he is.
[03 Jan/14:16] <pyrokiwi> lol
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[03 Jan/14:19] <pyrokiwi> hmm 
[03 Jan/14:19] <pyrokiwi> y cant some1 break there pc this is boring
[03 Jan/14:19] <JustKev> heh
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[03 Jan/14:20] <pyrokiwi> and no i didnt volunteer
[03 Jan/14:20] @ mode #win98 [+v CJ^] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[03 Jan/14:20] <pyrokiwi> yo CJ^ u scored?
[03 Jan/14:20] <CJ^> back
[03 Jan/14:20] <CJ^> OK
[03 Jan/14:20] <pyrokiwi> if so wat speed is it?
[03 Jan/14:20] <CJ^> win98 says foudn new hardware.. 
[03 Jan/14:20] <CJ^> BUT  cant indentify the cdr...
[03 Jan/14:20] <CJ^> odd..
[03 Jan/14:20] <pyrokiwi> lol
[03 Jan/14:20] <LosGuy> oh I broke one of mine pyrokiwi ...wanna fix it for me?
[03 Jan/14:20] <pyrokiwi> prob a rare cdr need to find drivers 
[03 Jan/14:20] <CJ^> now... firmware issue?
[03 Jan/14:20] <pyrokiwi> wat brand is it?
[03 Jan/14:21] <CJ^> yam  cdr100
[03 Jan/14:21] <CJ^> looking it up now...
[03 Jan/14:21] <CJ^> just unusal...
[03 Jan/14:21] <CJ^> scsi cdrom  not identified...:PP
[03 Jan/14:21] <pyrokiwi> hmmm
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[03 Jan/14:21] <pete_rott> lo
[03 Jan/14:21] <pete_rott> can ne 1 help me?
[03 Jan/14:21] <pete_rott> my win 98 is so slow
[03 Jan/14:21] @ mode #win98 [+v pete_rott] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[03 Jan/14:21] <pyrokiwi> yep wat with?
[03 Jan/14:22] <pyrokiwi> wat speed pc?
[03 Jan/14:22] <pete_rott> thanks
[03 Jan/14:22] <pete_rott> the machine is so slow
[03 Jan/14:22] <pete_rott> pII 233 mhz
[03 Jan/14:22] <pyrokiwi> and how much ram and free harddisk space?
[03 Jan/14:22] <pete_rott> 32 ram
[03 Jan/14:22] <pyrokiwi> free hdrive space?
[03 Jan/14:22] <pyrokiwi> >>?<<
[03 Jan/14:23] <pete_rott> 1.03  and 1.93 gb
[03 Jan/14:23] <pyrokiwi> free on each?
[03 Jan/14:23] <pete_rott> c = 1.03 gb
[03 Jan/14:23] <pete_rott> d = 1.93 gb
[03 Jan/14:23] <pyrokiwi> is that free space or total space?
[03 Jan/14:24] <pete_rott> free space
[03 Jan/14:24] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm
[03 Jan/14:24] <pyrokiwi> how many things are there if u go ctrl-alt-dlt ?
[03 Jan/14:25] <pyrokiwi> yay 23meg dl finished
[03 Jan/14:25] <pyrokiwi> CJ^ wat ya think?
[03 Jan/14:25] <pete_rott> ¡³
[03 Jan/14:25] <pyrokiwi> huh?
[03 Jan/14:26] <pyrokiwi> how many things does it list when u go ctrl-alt-dlt
[03 Jan/14:26] <pyrokiwi> also hav u rebooted?
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[03 Jan/14:26] <LosGuy> what does 'so slow' mean?
[03 Jan/14:27] <LosGuy> so slow to do what?
[03 Jan/14:28] <pyrokiwi> 32meg ram is a bit low 4 a p2
[03 Jan/14:28] <jet350> hey Los you were right on that virus
[03 Jan/14:28] <LosGuy> I was?
[03 Jan/14:28] <pyrokiwi> hmmm i hope he didnt press ctrl-alt-dlt twice
[03 Jan/14:29] <jet350> a bios flash
[03 Jan/14:29] <LosGuy> oh 
[03 Jan/14:29] <LosGuy> yuck
[03 Jan/14:29] <jet350> yep
[03 Jan/14:29] <pyrokiwi> hmmm u got broken mb ? now
[03 Jan/14:29] <LosGuy> did it get you?
[03 Jan/14:29] <LosGuy> doho
[03 Jan/14:29] <jet350> nope
[03 Jan/14:29] <LosGuy> and you knew about it BEFORE hand!
[03 Jan/14:29] <LosGuy> oh kewl
[03 Jan/14:30] <pyrokiwi> i hate flash bios
[03 Jan/14:30] <LosGuy> I love it
[03 Jan/14:30] <jet350> nasty little thing waiting for a reboot
[03 Jan/14:30] <pyrokiwi> cause u can wreck whole mb from virus
[03 Jan/14:31] <pyrokiwi> i mean its good just a bit scary
[03 Jan/14:32] <Big`Ed> i am still working on a laptop at work that is the byproduct of a failed bios flash
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[03 Jan/14:45] @ mode #win98 [+v Big`Ed] by Zeus_!pegasys@tigerrose.grateful.org
[03 Jan/14:46] <Big`Ed> back
[03 Jan/14:47] <Big`Ed> `say
[03 Jan/14:47] <CrZi> hi
[03 Jan/14:47] <Big`Ed> hi
[03 Jan/14:48] <CrZi> sup?
[03 Jan/14:48] <Big`Ed> nada
[03 Jan/14:49] * CrZi is shocked she's being answered
[03 Jan/14:50] <Big`Ed> heh - well - its a newyear and you have not done anything to offend anyone
[03 Jan/14:50] <Big`Ed> should I not?
[03 Jan/14:50] <CrZi> no reason not to that I can see, but on occasion I come in and I'm ignored
[03 Jan/14:51] <CrZi> or threatened
[03 Jan/14:51] <Big`Ed> not recently by me
[03 Jan/14:51] <CrZi> not you... recently
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[03 Jan/14:53] <Crabster> has anywone here used win98 lite?
[03 Jan/14:54] <LosGuy> nope
[03 Jan/14:54] <LosGuy> and dont intend on it...My HD is big enough that I can live with IE on it to avoid the problems with that hack
[03 Jan/14:54] ! AngieBoos is known as AngieAFK
[03 Jan/14:55] <Crabster> i might use it for this old laptop that ive been given
[03 Jan/14:55] <Big`Ed> should not HACK win98
[03 Jan/14:56] <Crabster> not on my pc ( i use ie too much ) but on this one that im just gonna word process on
[03 Jan/14:56] <LosGuy> still have never used it
[03 Jan/14:57] <LosGuy> lite 98 I thought it was called though
[03 Jan/14:57] <Big`Ed> win98 is NOT designed to be used without a integrated part
[03 Jan/14:57] <Crabster> oh
[03 Jan/14:57] <Crabster> well lite98 then
[03 Jan/14:57] <Big`Ed> that is not a sanctioned win98 product
[03 Jan/14:58] <Crabster> big 'ed - thats just the cr*p that old uncle bill tells us
[03 Jan/14:58] <Big`Ed> then why are you asking ?
[03 Jan/14:58] <Big`Ed> if you don't want a professional opinion?
[03 Jan/14:58] <Crabster> eh?
[03 Jan/14:58] <Crabster> sorry
[03 Jan/14:58] <Crabster> i didnt mean to offend u
[03 Jan/14:58] <Big`Ed> go for it then?
[03 Jan/14:58] <Big`Ed> not offended
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[03 Jan/14:59] <pete_rott> hello
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[03 Jan/14:59] <LosGuy> hi
[03 Jan/14:59] <pete_rott> well when i turn off some appz at the ctrl ctrl alt del the machine turn on fast
[03 Jan/15:00] <pete_rott> but now i need to edit my start up 
[03 Jan/15:00] <pete_rott> can ne 1 help me?
[03 Jan/15:00] <pete_rott> i don't know how
[03 Jan/15:00] <mrgone> run msconfig in run
[03 Jan/15:00] <pete_rott> thanks
[03 Jan/15:01] <Big`Ed> msconfig is easy
[03 Jan/15:01] <Big`Ed> he mrgone - didn't see you slip in
[03 Jan/15:02] <mrgone> you slipped in i been here for 45 minutes
[03 Jan/15:02] <LosGuy> hehe
[03 Jan/15:02] <Big`Ed> ah - was resetting my script
[03 Jan/15:02] <pete_rott> well
[03 Jan/15:02] <LosGuy> mrgone were you ever able to bid on that card?
[03 Jan/15:02] <pete_rott> now i have another problem
[03 Jan/15:02] <mrgone> yup
[03 Jan/15:03] <mrgone> and i got it
[03 Jan/15:03] <pete_rott> whe i click in my icons don't open  
[03 Jan/15:03] <pete_rott> only sho info
[03 Jan/15:03] <pete_rott> only show info
[03 Jan/15:03] <pete_rott> can ne 1 help me to fix that?
[03 Jan/15:05] <Big`Ed> that is the nature of a ICON
[03 Jan/15:05] <Big`Ed> are they icons or shortcuts?
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[03 Jan/15:38] <Big`Ed> wb CJ^
[03 Jan/15:38] <CJ^> hehe
[03 Jan/15:38] <CJ^> its working
[03 Jan/15:40] <Big`Ed> kewl
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[03 Jan/15:41] <sk8tr> can someone here help me wif a windows problem
[03 Jan/15:41] <sk8tr> ?
[03 Jan/15:41] <CJafk> ok
[03 Jan/15:41] <CJafk> the CDR is wokring
[03 Jan/15:41] <sk8tr> pretty please
[03 Jan/15:41] <CJafk> just nto my connection the the IRC:PPPPPPPPPPp
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[03 Jan/15:41] ! CJafk is known as CJ^
[03 Jan/15:42] <CJ^> with?
[03 Jan/15:42] <sk8tr> can someone PLEASE help me
[03 Jan/15:42] <CJ^> whats the problem?
[03 Jan/15:42] <sk8tr> i cant view pics in my window
[03 Jan/15:42] <sk8tr> it says the following error :(hang on a sec).........
[03 Jan/15:43] <sk8tr> an error has occured in the script on this page
[03 Jan/15:43] <sk8tr> line 260
[03 Jan/15:43] <sk8tr> char 4
[03 Jan/15:43] <CJ^> ona web site?
[03 Jan/15:43] <sk8tr> nope..
[03 Jan/15:43] <sk8tr> trying to view some pics in a folder
[03 Jan/15:43] <sk8tr> and it says the error is
[03 Jan/15:43] <CJ^> you runnign active desktop?
[03 Jan/15:43] <sk8tr> object doesnt support this property or method
[03 Jan/15:44] <sk8tr> cj i dont know
[03 Jan/15:44] <sk8tr> how do i check?
[03 Jan/15:45] <CJ^> right clicj on the desktop
[03 Jan/15:45] <CJ^> er click
[03 Jan/15:45] <sk8tr> uh huh
[03 Jan/15:45] <CJ^> Active Desktop
[03 Jan/15:45] <sk8tr> and????/
[03 Jan/15:45] <CJ^> see if View as Web Page is checked
[03 Jan/15:45] <sk8tr> and if it isnt?
[03 Jan/15:46] <CJ^> then your nto running active desktop
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[03 Jan/15:46] <Trailfaz> i have a weird problem with my modem 
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[03 Jan/15:46] <sk8tr> so whats it supposed to be set at?
[03 Jan/15:47] <Big`Ed> Trailfaz?
[03 Jan/15:47] <CJ^> its nto a req setting
[03 Jan/15:47] <CJ^> its just to see if you are...
[03 Jan/15:47] <sk8tr> so i should set it off?
[03 Jan/15:47] <sk8tr> well i am....so now what?
[03 Jan/15:47] <CJ^> yes
[03 Jan/15:47] <Trailfaz> it's a 56k flex modem Supervoice and sometimes when I turn on my computer and go to connect to the net, it says it's not there
[03 Jan/15:47] <CJ^> if its Checked..
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[03 Jan/15:47] <CJ^> uncheck it and try veiwing pics
[03 Jan/15:47] @ mode #win98 [+v Los`Guy] by Zeus_!pegasys@tigerrose.grateful.org
[03 Jan/15:47] <Trailfaz> so then i go to my control panel and it's there but there is a conflict 
[03 Jan/15:48] <sk8tr> i tried it and it says the same script error
[03 Jan/15:48] <CJ^> ok..
[03 Jan/15:48] <sk8tr> tried it both ways
[03 Jan/15:48] <CJ^> where are you viewing pics?
[03 Jan/15:48] <Trailfaz> then i go to my resources and for some reason it is always on the irq 03
[03 Jan/15:48] <CJ^> in Explorer?
[03 Jan/15:48] <sk8tr> yes
[03 Jan/15:48] <jet> what was the time CJ
[03 Jan/15:48] <CJ^> ok..
[03 Jan/15:48] <CJ^> ??????/
[03 Jan/15:48] <sk8tr> cj.......msg me prvt
[03 Jan/15:48] <CJ^> time?
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[03 Jan/15:48] <CJ^> no sk8tr
[03 Jan/15:48] <CJ^> no msg
[03 Jan/15:48] <jet> it showed a ping 
[03 Jan/15:48] <sk8tr> yes cj
[03 Jan/15:48] <Trailfaz> what makes it keep doing that conflict thing with the modem ?
[03 Jan/15:48] <Trailfaz> anyone know about this ?
[03 Jan/15:49] <CJ^> everything is done in channel..
[03 Jan/15:49] <sk8tr> no...msg me
[03 Jan/15:49] <CJ^> NO
[03 Jan/15:49] <Los`Guy> sk8tr see the topic
[03 Jan/15:49] <sk8tr> YES
[03 Jan/15:49] <sk8tr> ok.....then i will just sit here and cry
[03 Jan/15:49] <jet> sorry CJ
[03 Jan/15:49] <sk8tr> but sriously.......what do i do now CJ?
[03 Jan/15:49] <Trailfaz> everytime i switch it over to another irq  and then next time i turn on my computer again it seems to always go back to that conflict again
[03 Jan/15:49] <Trailfaz> why??????
[03 Jan/15:50] <Trailfaz> it seems to be always conflicting with port com 2 even though when i go to switch it to another irq
[03 Jan/15:50] <CJ^> ok... you may have view as web page set in fodler options as well...
[03 Jan/15:50] <Los`Guy> Trailfaz have you installed YOUR modems drivers (or just win98s)? also you could turn off search for new pnp devices on boot I belive
[03 Jan/15:50] <CJ^> check that in explorer...
[03 Jan/15:50] <sk8tr> ok.........
[03 Jan/15:50] <Big`Ed> Trailfaz - are you installing with your MODEM software?
[03 Jan/15:50] ! HigH_AwaY is known as HigHBabE
[03 Jan/15:51] <sk8tr> ok..it works for now....
[03 Jan/15:51] <sk8tr> but cj.....it never did that before now....
[03 Jan/15:52] <Trailfaz> i don't think i am because when i click on the modem it shows that its there and then when i click on something else , it says MODEM not installed but the modem is setup in my comp.
[03 Jan/15:52] <sk8tr> i could view it as a webpage before and i never had that problem till now
[03 Jan/15:52] <CJ^> sk8tr  run SFC see if any thing pops up
[03 Jan/15:52] <CJ^> might be an IE error..
[03 Jan/15:52] <sk8tr> SFC?
[03 Jan/15:52] <sk8tr> whats that?
[03 Jan/15:52] <CJ^> well  its realted to that
[03 Jan/15:52] <CJ^> Start>run>sfc
[03 Jan/15:52] <CJ^> system file checker
[03 Jan/15:52] <Trailfaz> the modem is setup but prob. windows thinks is not installed 
[03 Jan/15:52] <Big`Ed> Trailfaz - are you installing with your MODEM software?
[03 Jan/15:52] <sk8tr> where is sfc?
[03 Jan/15:52] <Trailfaz> prob. not
[03 Jan/15:53] <Trailfaz> i used the Supervoice CD that i got, is that installing the modem software ?
[03 Jan/15:53] <CJ^> sk8tr   
[03 Jan/15:53] <CJ^> click start
[03 Jan/15:53] <CJ^> then run
[03 Jan/15:53] <CJ^> and they type sfc
[03 Jan/15:53] <Trailfaz> because that's what my modem is a 56K Flex Supervoice for Windows modem
[03 Jan/15:54] <Big`Ed> Trailfaz - you need to fully delete all detected modems, and then go in and install with it's CD
[03 Jan/15:54] <Big`Ed> or check thier web site for newer ones
[03 Jan/15:54] <CJ^> whoo hoo
[03 Jan/15:54] <CJ^> success  
[03 Jan/15:54] <Big`Ed> great
[03 Jan/15:55] <CJ^> CDR succesfully bunred  !!!
[03 Jan/15:55] <CJ^> er burned
[03 Jan/15:55] <Trailfaz> and that will keep it from conflicting and also telling me to install a new modem even though i have one in the comp. setup ?
[03 Jan/15:55] ! __TarZan is known as jaoco
[03 Jan/15:55] <Trailfaz> ok how do i fully delete all detected modems ?
[03 Jan/15:55] <Big`Ed> control panel, modems
[03 Jan/15:55] <Trailfaz> ok
[03 Jan/15:56] <Trailfaz> it shows that my modem is setup for this computer
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[03 Jan/15:56] <Big`Ed> hello water-veggie
[03 Jan/15:56] <pyrokiwi> grrr
[03 Jan/15:57] <Trailfaz> now what should I do ?
[03 Jan/15:57] <pyrokiwi> how did u know i went 4 a swim?
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[03 Jan/15:57] <CJ^> we called your mom...
[03 Jan/15:57] <CJ^> she told us..
[03 Jan/15:57] <Big`Ed> yup
[03 Jan/15:57] <pyrokiwi> lol very funny
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[03 Jan/15:57] <FoolsRun> Hi. I accidentaly clicked "always ask with this type of file" when downloading a ZIP file with IE. How do I undo this?
[03 Jan/15:57] <CJ^> said you were makign the water yellow..
[03 Jan/15:57] <Trailfaz> do i just click on REMOVE
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[03 Jan/15:58] <Big`Ed> SOMEONE DOES NOT READ TOPIC!!!!!
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[03 Jan/15:59] <Trailfaz> oh sorry about that
[03 Jan/15:59] <Trailfaz> it won't happen again, I promise
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[03 Jan/16:00] <Trailfaz> can someone be of assistance here , please ?
[03 Jan/16:00] <Trailfaz> thanks
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[03 Jan/16:00] <Trailfaz> oh nevermind
[03 Jan/16:00] <Trailfaz> i'll figure it out myself
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[03 Jan/16:01] <CrZi> do dvd drives have any use beside playing movies? 
[03 Jan/16:01] <pyrokiwi> yep
[03 Jan/16:01] <pyrokiwi> playing cds
[03 Jan/16:01] <CrZi> heh
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[03 Jan/16:06] <pyrokiwi> wats the place with conseal at it?
[03 Jan/16:07] <pyrokiwi> the site firewall
[03 Jan/16:07] <Los`Guy> w98 where is conseal
[03 Jan/16:07] <w98> i guess conseal is at signal9.com
[03 Jan/16:07] <pyrokiwi> thats it
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[03 Jan/16:09] <pyrokiwi> w98 what is linux
[03 Jan/16:09] <w98> i think linux is Linux is a free personal computer operating system based on the UNIX operating system. It has almost all of the functionality of UNIX but has no official support. The code and the support come from the users and developers of the operating system.
[03 Jan/16:10] <pyrokiwi> w98 ethernet
[03 Jan/16:10] <Big`Ed> w98 what is ethernet
[03 Jan/16:10] <w98> big`ed: bugger all, i dunno
[03 Jan/16:10] <pyrokiwi> lol
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[03 Jan/16:11] <w98> sorry, I didn't mean to break the rules
[03 Jan/16:11] <pyrokiwi> now if i said that id get a warning 4 cussing
[03 Jan/16:11] <pyrokiwi> or even da boot
[03 Jan/16:15] <Big`Ed> w98 who is pyrokiwi
[03 Jan/16:15] <w98> hmmm... pyrokiwi is a byproduct of the New Zealand Farmlands, if you place a real Kiwi in a 900W microwave, and set the time for 3 minutes, you get a PyroKiwi
[03 Jan/16:15] * pyrokiwi throws a phsycho
[03 Jan/16:15] <pyrokiwi> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[03 Jan/16:15] <mrgone> hehe
[03 Jan/16:15] * pyrokiwi blows a fuse grrr
[03 Jan/16:15] <Big`Ed> hehe
[03 Jan/16:16] <Big`Ed> don't ever ask that question then
[03 Jan/16:16] <pyrokiwi> did i? no
[03 Jan/16:16] ! Katwina is known as ^Katrina
[03 Jan/16:17] <Big`Ed> w98 who is mrgone
[03 Jan/16:17] <w98> it has been said that mrgone is formally known as SirHere, but he decided to be less formal, left and became MrGone.
[03 Jan/16:17] <pyrokiwi> lol crazt bot
[03 Jan/16:17] <pyrokiwi> w98 who is Big`Ed
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[03 Jan/16:17] <w98> pyrokiwi: bugger all, i dunno
[03 Jan/16:17] <CJ^> w98 who is CJ^
[03 Jan/16:17] <w98> cj^: bugger all, i dunno
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[03 Jan/16:17] <CJ^> :P
[03 Jan/16:17] <CJ^> well well well
[03 Jan/16:17] <devilDigg> heh..
[03 Jan/16:18] <Big`Ed> hmmm
[03 Jan/16:18] <devilDigg> w98 who is pyrokiwi
[03 Jan/16:18] < SignOff: W!cservice@undernet.org (Dallas-R.Tx.US.Undernet.org plano.tx.us.undernet.org)
[03 Jan/16:18] <w98> well, pyrokiwi is a byproduct of the New Zealand Farmlands, if you place a real Kiwi in a 900W microwave, and set the time for 3 minutes, you get a PyroKiwi
[03 Jan/16:18] <mrgone> w98 who is mrgone
[03 Jan/16:18] <w98> rumour has it mrgone is formally known as SirHere, but he decided to be less formal, left and became MrGone
[03 Jan/16:18] <mrgone> w98 who is w98
[03 Jan/16:18] <w98> i am me dummy!
[03 Jan/16:18] <mrgone> lol
[03 Jan/16:18] <devilDigg> heh
[03 Jan/16:18] <CJ^> w98 what is a lewinsky
[03 Jan/16:18] <CJ^> :P
[03 Jan/16:18] <CJ^> with tater tots
[03 Jan/16:18] <w98> i haven't a clue, cj^
[03 Jan/16:18] <CJ^> mm mm  tater tots
[03 Jan/16:18] <devilDigg> w98 who is Los`Guy
[03 Jan/16:18] <w98> i don't know, devildigg
[03 Jan/16:18] <CJ^> wait a min
[03 Jan/16:19] <mrgone> w98 where is canada?
[03 Jan/16:19] <w98> i don't know, mrgone
[03 Jan/16:19] <CJ^> mm mm tater tots
[03 Jan/16:19] <mrgone> no one does :(
[03 Jan/16:19] <devilDigg> w98 who is losguy
[03 Jan/16:19] <w98> somebody said losguy was nuking the shit out of the undernet community with Deton8R 4.0
[03 Jan/16:19] <mrgone> lol
[03 Jan/16:19] ! Los`Guy is known as LosGuy
[03 Jan/16:19] <CJ^> Bahaha
[03 Jan/16:19] <LosGuy> doh
[03 Jan/16:19] <LosGuy> I need to fix that
[03 Jan/16:19] <Big`Ed> w98 who is CJ^
[03 Jan/16:19] <w98> somebody said CJ^ was the alter alias of one skippy. He has previous experience as a hardware tester for a well known Peanut Butter and Computer Chip company.
[03 Jan/16:19] <devilDigg> heh
[03 Jan/16:19] <CJ^> peanut butter?????
[03 Jan/16:19] <devilDigg> w98 who am i
[03 Jan/16:19] <w98> devildigg: i haven't a clue
[03 Jan/16:19] <devilDigg> w98 who is devildigg
[03 Jan/16:19] <w98> devildigg: wish i knew
[03 Jan/16:19] <devilDigg> heh
[03 Jan/16:20] <devilDigg> w98 who is azmodian
[03 Jan/16:20] <w98> i don't know, devildigg
[03 Jan/16:20] <Big`Ed> skippy peanut butter
[03 Jan/16:20] <devilDigg> err
[03 Jan/16:20] <CJ^> :P
[03 Jan/16:20] <devilDigg> w98 who is azmodan
[03 Jan/16:20] <CJ^> ooh  bad pun
[03 Jan/16:20] [w98> azmodan is probably off eating his lunch
[03 Jan/16:20] <pyrokiwi> lol
[03 Jan/16:20] <pyrokiwi> i doubt it it is 4:15
[03 Jan/16:20] <devilDigg> w98 who is biged
[03 Jan/16:20] <w98> wish i knew, devildigg
[03 Jan/16:20] <devilDigg> w98 who is Big`Ed
[03 Jan/16:20] <w98> devildigg: wish i knew
[03 Jan/16:20] <LosGuy> whois devilDigg
[03 Jan/16:20] <LosGuy> w98 whois devilDigg
[03 Jan/16:21] <w98> devilDigg is a g33k that hangs out in #win98
[03 Jan/16:21] <CJ^> w98 get bent
[03 Jan/16:21] <LosGuy> :P
[03 Jan/16:21] <devilDigg> heh
[03 Jan/16:21] <Big`Ed> w98 who is Big`Ed
[03 Jan/16:21] <w98> you are only a gutter dragging dirt bag on #win98
[03 Jan/16:21] <devilDigg> very funny w98
[03 Jan/16:21] <LosGuy> doh
[03 Jan/16:22] <pyrokiwi> hahaha lol 
[03 Jan/16:22] <mrgone> w98 what is ebay
[03 Jan/16:22] <w98> mrgone: wish i knew
[03 Jan/16:22] <Big`Ed> w98 who is LosGuy
[03 Jan/16:22] <w98> LosGuy is nuking the shit out of the undernet community with Deton8R 4.0
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[03 Jan/16:22] * LosGuy dont nuke
[03 Jan/16:22] @ mode #win98 [+v wez] by Zeus_!pegasys@tigerrose.grateful.org
[03 Jan/16:22] <Big`Ed> w98 who is LosGuy
[03 Jan/16:22] <w98> LosGuy is the King of DaMan on #win98
[03 Jan/16:23] <mrgone> hehe
[03 Jan/16:23] <wez> hi ya kiddies
[03 Jan/16:23] <LosGuy> hi wez
[03 Jan/16:23] <devilDigg> hey wez
[03 Jan/16:23] <pyrokiwi> hiya wez
[03 Jan/16:23] <wez> i see youre NOT nuking, thats good :)
[03 Jan/16:23] <pyrokiwi> w98 who is wez
[03 Jan/16:23] <w98> hmmm... wez is a superg33k
[03 Jan/16:23] <pyrokiwi> lol
[03 Jan/16:23] <wez> it works!!!!
[03 Jan/16:23] <pyrokiwi> no we are not nuking
[03 Jan/16:23] <wez> heheh
[03 Jan/16:23] <pyrokiwi> who is
[03 Jan/16:24] <devilDigg> w98 who is devildigg (better have a better answer this time :))
[03 Jan/16:24] <w98> i don't know, devildigg
[03 Jan/16:24] <LosGuy> besides w98 should not be cussing in channel
[03 Jan/16:24] <devilDigg> yeah true..
[03 Jan/16:24] <wez> artificial intellegence can no longer be kept as machinery
[03 Jan/16:24] <wez> especially if it backtalks to you...
[03 Jan/16:25] <pyrokiwi> lol
[03 Jan/16:26] <wez> "IRC bot goes berserk and virtually kills man..."
[03 Jan/16:26] <pyrokiwi> lol
[03 Jan/16:26] <pyrokiwi> ask him who i am
[03 Jan/16:26] <LosGuy> w98 whois devilDigg
[03 Jan/16:26] <w98> hmmm... devilDigg is a bot (fakes it pretty well though dont you think?)
[03 Jan/16:26] <CJ^> w98 who is pyrokiwi
[03 Jan/16:26] ! MissNasty is known as angie\afk
[03 Jan/16:26] <pyrokiwi> sya i gtg
[03 Jan/16:26] <w98> hmmm... pyrokiwi is a byproduct of the New Zealand Farmlands, if you place a real Kiwi in a 900W microwave, and set the time for 3 minutes, you get a PyroKiwi
[03 Jan/16:26] <devilDigg> bye
[03 Jan/16:27] <Big`Ed> bye
[03 Jan/16:27] < SignOff: pyrokiwi!mrhehe@210-55-150-207.dialup.xtra.co.nz (fine then if u hate me i will go find a friend)
[03 Jan/16:27] ! jaoco is known as bruno
[03 Jan/16:27] <Big`Ed> ugh
[03 Jan/16:27] <Big`Ed> i thought it was cute
[03 Jan/16:27] <devilDigg> w98 who is devilDigg
[03 Jan/16:27] <w98> well, devilDigg is a bot (fakes it pretty well though dont you think?)
[03 Jan/16:27] <CJ^> well he is only 14
[03 Jan/16:27] <devilDigg> heh
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[03 Jan/16:28] <LosGuy> :)
[03 Jan/16:28] <devilDigg> wb w98
[03 Jan/16:28] ! bijzonder is known as nottalkng
[03 Jan/16:28] <Big`Ed> but what does he think a pyrokiwi is?
[03 Jan/16:28] <devilDigg> err: wb W
[03 Jan/16:28] <CJ^> flaming fruit?
[03 Jan/16:28] <CJ^> DOH
[03 Jan/16:28] <LosGuy> haha
[03 Jan/16:28] <devilDigg> maybe: a pyromaniac kiwi
[03 Jan/16:29] <devilDigg> there is nothing wrong with being 14..
[03 Jan/16:30] * Big`Ed was 14 last millinium
[03 Jan/16:31] <Big`Ed> w98 who is LosGuy
[03 Jan/16:31] <w98> big`ed: bugger all, i dunno
[03 Jan/16:31] * devilDigg is 14 now
[03 Jan/16:31] <CJ^> Ed was 14 when Lincoln was prez
[03 Jan/16:31] <devilDigg> heh
[03 Jan/16:31] <Big`Ed> close
[03 Jan/16:32] <LosGuy> devilDigg ...some 14year olds ... act 14 ..and some are more mature
[03 Jan/16:32] <devilDigg> do i act 14?
[03 Jan/16:32] <Big`Ed> and 14 would get me 30
[03 Jan/16:32] <CJ^> aww ed..
[03 Jan/16:32] <CJ^> dont ask dont tell...
[03 Jan/16:33] <CJ^> dont drop her off at home...
[03 Jan/16:33] <LosGuy> doh
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[03 Jan/16:35] <Avi> anyone here have a PC DVD drive and decoder card?
[03 Jan/16:35] <devilDigg> me
[03 Jan/16:35] <Big`Ed> sure
[03 Jan/16:35] <CJ^> no
[03 Jan/16:36] <CJ^> but if ya send it to me ill keep it
[03 Jan/16:36] <Danofl> what does that mean vulcan?
[03 Jan/16:36] <devilDigg> heh CJ^
[03 Jan/16:36] <Avi> can you give me some advice on what I can do to see the video on the computer monitor?
[03 Jan/16:36] <Avi> I see the picture on my TV just fine, but not on the PC monitor!
[03 Jan/16:36] <devilDigg> first install the decoder card drivers
[03 Jan/16:36] <Big`Ed> do you have the software installed?
[03 Jan/16:37] <devilDigg> i think he does
[03 Jan/16:37] <Avi> yup...all software is installed
[03 Jan/16:37] <devilDigg> because if he sees it in the tv..
[03 Jan/16:37] <devilDigg> ok.. um
[03 Jan/16:37] <CJ^> disconnect the TV out
[03 Jan/16:37] <devilDigg> what card do you have?
[03 Jan/16:37] <CJ^> shoudl default back to the monitor
[03 Jan/16:37] <devilDigg> what decoder card?
[03 Jan/16:37] <Avi> that's how I am playing the DVD....I move my mouse over the window and look at the TV to see where I am
[03 Jan/16:38] <devilDigg> avi: what decoder card do you have?
[03 Jan/16:38] <devilDigg> a realmagic?
[03 Jan/16:38] <Avi> it's the Creative Labs 6X PC-DVD drive and the DX3 decoder card
[03 Jan/16:38] <devilDigg> oh
[03 Jan/16:39] <Avi> I bought that one because creative labs is a good name, and I'v had nothing but problems!!! heheh
[03 Jan/16:39] <devilDigg> well i woudl recommend you calibrate your monitor
[03 Jan/16:39] <devilDigg> or was it all done?
[03 Jan/16:39] <devilDigg> well its true, but i did it the other way around
[03 Jan/16:40] <Avi> my video card meets the requirements also...it's a Diamond Stealth 3D Pro 2000 with 2Megs of memory
[03 Jan/16:40] <devilDigg> i bought the drive, and i bought a realmagic decoder card
[03 Jan/16:40] <devilDigg> which i like because its never given me errors
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[03 Jan/16:41] <Avi> damn... heheh guess I'll be on the phone with creative labs tomm.
[03 Jan/16:41] <devilDigg> email them
[03 Jan/16:41] <devilDigg> tell them what type of monitor you have, what video card, and what computer you have
[03 Jan/16:41] <Avi> if you go into their knowledgebase, it has like 3 questions about what could go wrong, and that's it...
[03 Jan/16:41] <devilDigg> and hope for a reply
[03 Jan/16:41] <Avi> ok, I'll tyr that
[03 Jan/16:41] <Avi> try
[03 Jan/16:41] <Avi> oops
[03 Jan/16:41] <CJ^> i thought the vidceo card had to be DVD capable?
[03 Jan/16:42] <devilDigg> not really
[03 Jan/16:42] <devilDigg> thats why you buy a decoder card
[03 Jan/16:42] <Avi> does your decoder card have a wire that connects to your video card?
[03 Jan/16:42] <devilDigg> oh wait a second
[03 Jan/16:42] <devilDigg> i think i know why
[03 Jan/16:42] <devilDigg> do ou have all the cables
[03 Jan/16:42] <devilDigg> yeah
[03 Jan/16:42] <CJ^> well then the decoder has to be looped back toe the video card
[03 Jan/16:42] <devilDigg> thats what i was about to ask you
[03 Jan/16:42] <devilDigg> it is
[03 Jan/16:42] <devilDigg> it has a loopback cable
[03 Jan/16:42] <Avi> it's like 1/2 the width of an IDE connector
[03 Jan/16:42] <CJ^> right...
[03 Jan/16:42] <devilDigg> you connect the vga cable to the video card
[03 Jan/16:42] <CJ^> there are two types
[03 Jan/16:43] <CJ^> internal and external loop backs..
[03 Jan/16:43] <devilDigg> and the side that goes to the decoder card is like a ps/2 port
[03 Jan/16:43] <Avi> and I made sure I had the red line on pin 1....so I don't know what it could be
[03 Jan/16:43] <CJ^> the first your talking about is internal
[03 Jan/16:43] <devilDigg> and you connect your monitor to the decoder card
[03 Jan/16:43] <devilDigg> yeah
[03 Jan/16:43] <CJ^> and can only be used with DVD capable video cards...
[03 Jan/16:43] <devilDigg> i have the external one
[03 Jan/16:43] <Avi> yea, mine is all internal....
[03 Jan/16:43] <devilDigg> i would recommend the external one
[03 Jan/16:43] <CJ^> thats why
[03 Jan/16:44] <CJ^> the kit is suppoed to come with BOTH
[03 Jan/16:44] <Avi> so I need to get a new video card?
[03 Jan/16:44] <devilDigg> go to the dr3 or whatever u call it
[03 Jan/16:44] <CJ^> no..
[03 Jan/16:44] <devilDigg> website
[03 Jan/16:44] <devilDigg> and ask them for a external loopback cable
[03 Jan/16:44] <Avi> external as in a 15 pin vga connector?
[03 Jan/16:44] <devilDigg> yea
[03 Jan/16:44] <devilDigg> and the other side is like a ps/2 port
[03 Jan/16:45] <Avi> actually let me look at it a sec
[03 Jan/16:45] <devilDigg> that you connect to the decoder card, and you connect your monitor to the decoder card
[03 Jan/16:46] <CJ^> the kit does come with both
[03 Jan/16:46] <CJ^> just looked it up
[03 Jan/16:46] <CJ^> also comes with an instruction book...heh
[03 Jan/16:46] <Avi> well....this decoder card doesn't have that external 15 pin VGA connector on it
[03 Jan/16:47] <Avi> instruction book sucks...as most of them do!!! heheheh
[03 Jan/16:47] <Avi> so, should I just try a new video card, and the internal connection....I mean I only have a 2 meg video card
[03 Jan/16:48] <CJ^> go for it...
[03 Jan/16:48] <CJ^> TNT, ATI
[03 Jan/16:48] <devilDigg> well
[03 Jan/16:48] <Avi> cool...thanks
[03 Jan/16:48] <devilDigg> i have a voodoo 3, and i had a tnt
[03 Jan/16:48] <devilDigg> both those work perfect to my knowledge
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[03 Jan/16:49] <Avi> I have a SIS 6326 AGP card in my other PC, will it work over there?
[03 Jan/16:49] <CJ^> heck no
[03 Jan/16:49] <CJ^> get a real card...
[03 Jan/16:49] <Avi> I can just put this DVD drive in the other computer
[03 Jan/16:49] <CJ^> if ya only have PCI slots..
[03 Jan/16:49] <CJ^> go with TNT, ATI of VD 3 
[03 Jan/16:50] <Avi> heheheh....it's a barebones system....whattta expect!!  heheheh
[03 Jan/16:50] <Avi> ok, here I go to spend some money!
[03 Jan/16:50] <CJ^> well  ya spent $200+ on a DVD kit...:P
[03 Jan/16:51] <Avi> nope $150.00  that's why I go it....it was at a PC show yesterday
[03 Jan/16:51] <CJ^> well... according to the web site
[03 Jan/16:51] <Avi> I thought it was a damn good deal for a creative labs product
[03 Jan/16:51] <CJ^> is comes with everythign ya need to play it on the computer  AND  the TV
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[03 Jan/16:51] <CJ^> so.... yer kit was short..
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[03 Jan/16:52] ! DVD is known as DIVx
[03 Jan/16:52] <devilDigg> it sure was
[03 Jan/16:52] <CJ^> hence i think the $150 price  BUT..
[03 Jan/16:52] <CJ^> who knows..
[03 Jan/16:52] ! DIVx is known as Deton8R
[03 Jan/16:52] <CJ^> cant knock it really..
[03 Jan/16:53] <Avi> hmmm interesting...guess I gotta call the guy.... the manuals say it's a Dx3 decoder card, but it only has the composite video, Dolby AC-3 and a S-VHS connector on the outside
[03 Jan/16:53] <CJ^> the loopback is easy to get really..
[03 Jan/16:53] <devilDigg> well cj
[03 Jan/16:53] <Avi> get?  as in get a new connector
[03 Jan/16:53] <devilDigg> i bought a new card when my kit came short
[03 Jan/16:53] <devilDigg> the second kit brought the loopback cable
[03 Jan/16:54] <CJ^> Back panel connectors for AC-3® coaxial S/PDIF out, Dolby® surround Line Out, VGA output, VGA input, and S-Video output  << thats off CL's site
[03 Jan/16:54] <Avi> where did you get your kit?
[03 Jan/16:54] <devilDigg> me??
[03 Jan/16:54] <devilDigg> go to: www.sigma-designs.com
[03 Jan/16:55] <devilDigg> and lookup the realmagic hollywood plus, that card will never give you problems
[03 Jan/16:55] <devilDigg> mine brought all that
[03 Jan/16:55] <Avi> $ ?
[03 Jan/16:55] <CJ^> try www.mwave.com as well
[03 Jan/16:55] <devilDigg> around 60$$
[03 Jan/16:55] <CJ^> << sticks with Creative Vid cards...
[03 Jan/16:55] <devilDigg> thats why i bought another card...
[03 Jan/16:55] <CJ^> Diamond can kiss my arse...
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[03 Jan/16:56] <devilDigg> becuase the loopback cost almost half the whole kit
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[03 Jan/16:56] <Avi> heheeh
[03 Jan/16:56] <CJ^> shouldnt...
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[03 Jan/16:56] <CJ^> if its supposed to be in the kit...
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[03 Jan/16:56] <CJ^> id call CL and get them to send me one..
[03 Jan/16:56] <CJ^> or bring the kit back and make the place i bought it from give me one
[03 Jan/16:56] <devilDigg> yeha do that
[03 Jan/16:56] <Wolf^^> I need some help, When I try to opem My Computer or Windows Explorer a get a error box and int he deatils the first line read; "EXPLORER caused an invalid page fault in
[03 Jan/16:56] <Wolf^^> module SHDOCVW.DLL at 0177:79eadda1.
[03 Jan/16:57] <Wolf^^> "
[03 Jan/16:57] <Avi> your Hollywood card was $60 bux?
[03 Jan/16:57] <Avi> wolf.... go to www.microsoft.com/technet
[03 Jan/16:57] <Avi> and search for it
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[03 Jan/16:58] <CJ^> well first... try running SFC
[03 Jan/16:58] <CJ^> see if there are any corrupted files..
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[03 Jan/16:58] <Wolf^^> I have
[03 Jan/16:58] <Wolf^^> nada
[03 Jan/16:58] <LosGuy> Wolf^^ haved you replaced it using SFC?
[03 Jan/16:59] <Wolf^^> replaced what the DLL?
[03 Jan/16:59] <Avi> sfc?
[03 Jan/16:59] <CJ^> avi   sfc  system file checker..
[03 Jan/16:59] <Wolf^^> System File Checker
[03 Jan/16:59] <CJ^> start>run>sfc
[03 Jan/17:00] <LosGuy> you may need to do it from dos though
[03 Jan/17:00] <Wolf^^> I've tried that and having sfc replace explorer.exe too...no luck
[03 Jan/17:00] <devilDigg> sfc runs in dos?
[03 Jan/17:00] <LosGuy> boot to dos ...rename it to .old and then extract it
[03 Jan/17:00] <Wolf^^> extract it from here?
[03 Jan/17:00] <LosGuy> from your win98 cdrom
[03 Jan/17:01] <LosGuy> that is from MS site
[03 Jan/17:01] <LosGuy> you may have to load real mode cdrom drivers even :}
[03 Jan/17:01] <Avi> oh  ok
[03 Jan/17:01] <CJ^> :P
[03 Jan/17:01] <Wolf^^> load real modem drivers?
[03 Jan/17:01] <CJ^> hmm  or  drop the win98 dir on a the hard drive....<<<  easier...
[03 Jan/17:02] <LosGuy> sheez just extract it somewhere first
[03 Jan/17:02] <LosGuy> yeah
[03 Jan/17:02] <Wolf^^> that DLL is part of a modem driver?
[03 Jan/17:02] <cobalt17> i really need help, i want to install win98se and im on win95 wath should i do? msg-me plz
[03 Jan/17:03] <LosGuy> Shell Doc Object and Control Library
[03 Jan/17:03] <Big`Ed> cobalt17 - read TOPIC
[03 Jan/17:03] <CJ^> cobalt  you need the win98SE upgrade..
[03 Jan/17:03] <Big`Ed> no /msg
[03 Jan/17:03] <Big`Ed> no warez
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[03 Jan/17:03] <Azmodan> -kb Ryan--- 
[03 Jan/17:03] <LosGuy> `kb Ryan---
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[03 Jan/17:04] <LosGuy> `kb 
[03 Jan/17:04] <LosGuy> doh
[03 Jan/17:04] <CJ^> ok.. what the heck was that all about?????????????????/
[03 Jan/17:04] <Wolf^^> LosGuy> Couldn't I just insttall the cdrom drivers?? and if so how can I do that without trying to open the ControlPanel folder to get at the System controlpanel?
[03 Jan/17:04] <cobalt17> need help with install of win98se please help me & msg
[03 Jan/17:04] <Wolf^^> reinstall that is
[03 Jan/17:04] <CJ^> COBALT...
[03 Jan/17:04] <CJ^> no msgs
[03 Jan/17:05] <CJ^> second  you need win98 SE upgrade...
[03 Jan/17:05] <cobalt17> ok, just help me
[03 Jan/17:05] <LosGuy> uh ... pretty demanding
[03 Jan/17:05] <cobalt17> i have only win98se
[03 Jan/17:05] <CJ^> then you have to install clean..
[03 Jan/17:05] <CJ^> nothing else..
[03 Jan/17:05] <Big`Ed> cobalt17 - do you own a full retail or a upgrade retail version?
[03 Jan/17:05] <CJ^> ya cant upgrade...
[03 Jan/17:06] <cobalt17> reatail
[03 Jan/17:06] <Wolf^^> Losguy?
[03 Jan/17:06] <Big`Ed> retail
[03 Jan/17:06] <cobalt17> i want to format my drive
[03 Jan/17:06] <CJ^> then do so
[03 Jan/17:06] <Big`Ed> do you know retail?
[03 Jan/17:06] <CJ^> youhave the boot disk
[03 Jan/17:06] <cobalt17> just of win95
[03 Jan/17:06] <LosGuy> Wolf^^.. you just need to get that file on your HD no matter how you do it
[03 Jan/17:06] <CJ^> cobalt  the retail comes with a boot disk....
[03 Jan/17:06] <cobalt17> what file ?
[03 Jan/17:07] <CJ^> ?
[03 Jan/17:07] <cobalt17> copied version
[03 Jan/17:07] <CJ^> sorry
[03 Jan/17:07] <Big`Ed> cobalt17 - if you do not OWN legal version - go AWAY
[03 Jan/17:07] <CJ^> thats illegal bud
[03 Jan/17:07] <cobalt17> i know
[03 Jan/17:07] <Wolf^^> SHDOCVW.DLL is on the HD
[03 Jan/17:07] <cobalt17> what should i do ?
[03 Jan/17:07] <LosGuy> see topic
[03 Jan/17:07] <CJ^> then sorry
[03 Jan/17:07] <CJ^> get a legal copy
[03 Jan/17:07] <CJ^> go buy it...
[03 Jan/17:07] <LosGuy> Wolf^^ an NEW version from your cdrom
[03 Jan/17:07] <Big`Ed> BUY retail version
[03 Jan/17:07] <cobalt17> its a backup
[03 Jan/17:08] <CJ^> still its nto yours..
[03 Jan/17:08] <Wolf^^> Could I just reinstall the cdrom drivers to fix it?
[03 Jan/17:08] <CJ^> Wolf.. ya could  get em from  www.windrivers.com
[03 Jan/17:08] <Big`Ed> bye cobalt17
[03 Jan/17:08] <Big`Ed> please leave now cobalt17
[03 Jan/17:08] <cobalt17> what should i do if i lost that fuckin bootdisk
[03 Jan/17:08] <CJ^> bye bye
[03 Jan/17:08] <Wolf^^> I don't even know the maker of the drive
[03 Jan/17:08] <Big`Ed> `kb cobalt17
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[03 Jan/17:08] <LosGuy> `kick cobalt17 no cussing no warez
[03 Jan/17:09] <CJ^> look in device manager  whats it say there?
[03 Jan/17:09] <CJ^> may tell ya
[03 Jan/17:09] <Wolf^^> Is there a way to opent eh System controlpanel W/O opent eh Control Panel fodler?
[03 Jan/17:09] <CJ^> right click on my computer...
[03 Jan/17:09] <CJ^> see it it works..
[03 Jan/17:09] <Big`Ed> it it
[03 Jan/17:09] <LosGuy> choose properties (after right click)
[03 Jan/17:09] <Wolf^^> see if what works?
[03 Jan/17:10] <CJ^> :P
[03 Jan/17:10] <Wolf^^> picking Explore?
[03 Jan/17:10] <CJ^> right click on my computer
[03 Jan/17:10] <Wolf^^> it doesn't
[03 Jan/17:10] <CJ^> choose properties..
[03 Jan/17:10] <CJ^> hmm...
[03 Jan/17:10] <Wolf^^> Ahhh
[03 Jan/17:10] <LosGuy> or do it in safe mode
[03 Jan/17:10] <Wolf^^> now that worked
[03 Jan/17:10] <Wolf^^> forgot about that
[03 Jan/17:10] <Big`Ed> nite all!
[03 Jan/17:10] <LosGuy> nite Big`Ed
[03 Jan/17:10] <Wolf^^> I never use My Computer might be way too though
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[03 Jan/17:14] <Wolf^^> Manufacturer just says (Standard CD-ROM device), but the name next the icon FUNAI E285X 
[03 Jan/17:14] <CJ^> Funai
[03 Jan/17:15] <CJ^> there ya go
[03 Jan/17:15] <Wolf^^> That's the maker?? how odd
[03 Jan/17:15] <CJ^> yeap
[03 Jan/17:15] <CJ^> thats them...
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[03 Jan/17:16] <Wolf^^> Now the odd this is, when I try to look for that one in the list, there is a Funai listed, but it only has one options and it ain't mine
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[03 Jan/17:16] <nice-18> hi i need help please
[03 Jan/17:16] <nice-18> is there anyone out there..that could help me?
[03 Jan/17:16] <LosGuy> with what nice-18?
[03 Jan/17:17] <LosGuy> we wont know till we hear the problem
[03 Jan/17:18] <nice-18> i'm on my shitty comptuer rightnow...but my good computer..after i started it after y2k..it hangs right before windows startups..i'm pretty sure its a driver problem or something like that...i know its not y2k related..but so do you htink re-installing win98 would help me?
[03 Jan/17:18] <LosGuy> no cussing
[03 Jan/17:18] <nice-18> oh i'm sorry
[03 Jan/17:18] <LosGuy> depends on what is causing it
[03 Jan/17:18] <Wolf^^> I hate to ask this because I'm sure yall know yalls stuff...but you're sure it's a part of the cdrom driver crap??
[03 Jan/17:18] <LosGuy> try a logged boot
[03 Jan/17:19] <LosGuy> then boot to safe mode and fix it
[03 Jan/17:19] <LosGuy> the logged boot will tell you where it failed
[03 Jan/17:19] <nice-18> safe mode works....thats why i'm pretty sure its a driver problem
[03 Jan/17:19] <nice-18> what does a logged boot do?
[03 Jan/17:19] <LosGuy> [20:20] <LosGuy> the logged boot will tell you where it failed
[03 Jan/17:19] <nice-18> nice! thank you
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[03 Jan/17:20] <nice-18> umm do you think re=instaling win98 will help fix the problem/
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[03 Jan/17:20] <nice-18> ?
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[03 Jan/17:20] <LosGuy> np
[03 Jan/17:20] <LosGuy> it might nice-18
[03 Jan/17:20] <Wolf^^> LosGuy> What did you say SHDOCVW.DLL was again?
[03 Jan/17:20] <LosGuy> but I cant say for sure..since I dont know what is causing it nice-18
[03 Jan/17:20] <nice-18> i'll be back if i cant figure it out..thanks
[03 Jan/17:21] <LosGuy> Shell Doc Object and Control Library
[03 Jan/17:21] <Wolf^^> And what is that?
[03 Jan/17:21] <devilDigg> bbl
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[03 Jan/17:22] <LosGuy> Wolf^^ look for it at deja.com or MS if you need more info on that
[03 Jan/17:23] <Wolf^^> ok..just wondering, not that big a deal
[03 Jan/17:24] <Wolf^^> windrivers.com is actting like a little b**ch
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[03 Jan/17:32] <Wolf^^> got it...hope it works
[03 Jan/17:32] <Wolf^^> thanks later
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[03 Jan/17:43] <pyrokiwi> hiya ppls
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[03 Jan/17:45] <Wolf^^> that didn't work
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[03 Jan/17:46] <Wolf^^> LosGuy> I got the drivers off of Funai
[03 Jan/17:46] <Wolf^^> Funai's site..installed and restarted...nada
[03 Jan/17:47] <Wolf^^> A reinstall of the OS should fix it for sure, right?
[03 Jan/17:47] <CJ^> a bit drastic...
[03 Jan/17:47] <pyrokiwi> lol whats broken?
[03 Jan/17:48] <Wolf^^> pyrokiwi> When I try to run windows explorer I get an error dialog and the details say explorer caused an error in a .DLL
[03 Jan/17:48] <CJ^> and save it to a temp dir
[03 Jan/17:48] <CJ^> then boot into DOS
[03 Jan/17:49] <CJ^> and reinstall teh file...
[03 Jan/17:49] <Wolf^^> I don't understand
[03 Jan/17:49] <CJ^> extract the file    
[03 Jan/17:49] <Wolf^^> how can I save it to a temp dir?
[03 Jan/17:49] <CJ^> to a temp dir...\
[03 Jan/17:50] <CJ^> run sfc
[03 Jan/17:50] <CJ^> choose extract file
[03 Jan/17:50] <CJ^> type int eh name of the file.
[03 Jan/17:50] <CJ^> pull ot fromthe cdrom
[03 Jan/17:50] <CJ^> it will ask where it goes..
[03 Jan/17:50] <CJ^> by default  it will chose the correct dir
[03 Jan/17:50] <CJ^> tell it to goto  c:\DLL   or whatever ya want it to goto
[03 Jan/17:50] <CJ^> boot into dos
[03 Jan/17:51] <CJ^> and slap the file in c:\windows\system
[03 Jan/17:51] <CJ^> then reboot
[03 Jan/17:51] <Wolf^^> But doesn't it put the new one in the right place and the temp in the temp dir?
[03 Jan/17:52] <CJ^> no
[03 Jan/17:52] <CJ^> by default it will extract it to the correct dir...
[03 Jan/17:52] <CJ^> dont let it...
[03 Jan/17:52] <CJ^> just put it elsewhere
[03 Jan/17:52] <CJ^> heck  put it on a floppy..
[03 Jan/17:52] <Wolf^^> ok wait a sec
[03 Jan/17:52] <Wolf^^> I have tried teh sfc and extract think
[03 Jan/17:53] <nice-18> hey has anyone heard of a driver or file called esdi_506.pdr ???????
[03 Jan/17:53] <nice-18> los guys_> thats where my windows stopped loading
[03 Jan/17:53] <pyrokiwi> nope wats it for do u know?
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[03 Jan/17:54] <Wolf^^> Forgive me for sounding like a complete moron, when I know I'm not this stupid...but..
[03 Jan/17:55] <pyrokiwi> >?< Wolf^^ >?<
[03 Jan/17:55] <CJ^> but?
[03 Jan/17:55] <Wolf^^> in SFC, I pick Extract..then I hit Start..right so far?
[03 Jan/17:55] <pyrokiwi> yep
[03 Jan/17:55] <Wolf^^> tell is which file...then hit start
[03 Jan/17:55] <pyrokiwi> yep
[03 Jan/17:56] <LosGuy> ESDI_506 Virtual Device <--- it is a basic driver for hard drives etc
[03 Jan/17:56] <CJ^> you hist start
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[03 Jan/17:56] <CJ^> choose restore from
[03 Jan/17:56] <CJ^> then choose save to
[03 Jan/17:56] <Wolf^^> Then when it as where to restore from and destation...what?
[03 Jan/17:57] <Wolf^^> restore from the OS cd?
[03 Jan/17:57] <CJ^> you choose the win98 cd to restore FROM
[03 Jan/17:57] <pyrokiwi> yep
[03 Jan/17:57] <CJ^> and choose  a destination
[03 Jan/17:57] <CJ^> BY default it will goto the correct directory
[03 Jan/17:57] <CJ^> DONT let it...
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[03 Jan/17:57] <nice-18> i was disconnected
[03 Jan/17:57] <CJ^> type in something else...
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[03 Jan/17:57] <nice-18> so can anyone tell me what that file does??
[03 Jan/17:57] <Wolf^^> Ah ok
[03 Jan/17:58] <nice-18> esdi_506.pdr???
[03 Jan/17:58] <CJ^> <LosGuy> ESDI_506 Virtual Device <--- it is a basic driver for hard drives etc
[03 Jan/17:58] <LosGuy> nice-18...what do you have loading in autoexec.bat?
[03 Jan/17:59] <Wolf^^> So the big question is, since I am a complete moron to DOS...how move the one I'm restoring fromt he CD to my temp folder tot he right place while in DOS mode?
[03 Jan/17:59] <CJ^> ok
[03 Jan/17:59] <CJ^> say ya extract the file to  c:\DLL
[03 Jan/17:59] <CJ^> in dos
[03 Jan/17:59] <LosGuy> copy C:\first\place C:\second\place
[03 Jan/17:59] <CJ^> cd Dll
[03 Jan/17:59] <pyrokiwi> copy c:\dll c:\windows\system
[03 Jan/17:59] <CJ^> copy <file> c:\windows\system
[03 Jan/18:00] <CJ^> :P
[03 Jan/18:00] <LosGuy> err gotta put the file name there
[03 Jan/18:00] <pyrokiwi> yeh
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[03 Jan/18:02] <Wolf^^> Sorry, I just have run this through myself to make sure I'm getting this right....so I get to the dir that I restored TO and type; copy SHDOCVW.DLL c:\windows\system
[03 Jan/18:02] <CJ^> right
[03 Jan/18:02] <Wolf^^> damn I hate winblows
[03 Jan/18:02] <pyrokiwi> yeh 
[03 Jan/18:02] <pyrokiwi> lol
[03 Jan/18:02] <CJ^> HA
[03 Jan/18:02] <LosGuy> yes Wolf^^
[03 Jan/18:02] <CJ^> liek Linux is any easier????
[03 Jan/18:02] <LosGuy> haha
[03 Jan/18:03] <Wolf^^> No..but Mac is :-)
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[03 Jan/18:03] <CJ^> Mac suck
[03 Jan/18:03] <pyrokiwi> lol
[03 Jan/18:03] <CJ^> propietary crap
[03 Jan/18:03] <pyrokiwi> mac
[03 Jan/18:03] * pyrokiwi falls of his chair laughing
[03 Jan/18:03] <Wolf^^> Well please don't start to hate me know
[03 Jan/18:04] <pyrokiwi> we wont :)
[03 Jan/18:04] <pyrokiwi> donw worry
[03 Jan/18:04] <Wolf^^> There are ways that I like PCs over Mac and vise versa...but that's another story
[03 Jan/18:04] <CJ^> we save that for Kiwis
[03 Jan/18:04] * LosGuy has never used a mac... heard they were nice.. I guess
[03 Jan/18:04] <pyrokiwi> i used an OLD mac laptop
[03 Jan/18:04] * LosGuy has no desire to use a mac either
[03 Jan/18:04] <Wolf^^> Now could it be that explorer is the bad guy and nit the dll?
[03 Jan/18:05] <pyrokiwi> probably
[03 Jan/18:05] <CJ^> explorer is run by dll and other files...
[03 Jan/18:05] <CJ^> hence if a file is bad...
[03 Jan/18:05] <CJ^> explore may nto work correctly...
[03 Jan/18:05] * pyrokiwi wonders if imacs really taste like grapes
[03 Jan/18:05] <Wolf^^> though if that were the case, then I wouldn't be able to do anything...or so I think
[03 Jan/18:05] <CJ^> no
[03 Jan/18:05] <CJ^> not actually..
[03 Jan/18:05] <CJ^> a part of the OS can go down.. or nto be usable...
[03 Jan/18:06] <CJ^> but  doenst mean the whole thign woudl go down...
[03 Jan/18:06] <CJ^> like if a sparkplug goes bad in a car... doesnt mean teh car is undrivable..
[03 Jan/18:06] <Wolf^^> Ok..so just try doing this thing with the dll in dos and see if that works
[03 Jan/18:06] <CJ^> just means the plug needs replacing..
[03 Jan/18:06] <CJ^> yeap
[03 Jan/18:06] <CJ^> give it a whirl...
[03 Jan/18:07] <CJ^> ok  food run
[03 Jan/18:07] <CJ^> bbl
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[03 Jan/18:07] <Wolf^^> lord I hope this shit works
[03 Jan/18:08] <Wolf^^> I'll brb if it works or not...tahnks for the help though
[03 Jan/18:08] <pyrokiwi> :)
[03 Jan/18:09] <Wolf^^> laters til then
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[03 Jan/18:14] <Wolf^^> I'm back
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[03 Jan/18:15] <Wolf^^> and guess what?
[03 Jan/18:15] <Wolf^^> it didn't work
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[03 Jan/18:15] <pyrokiwi> hmmm
[03 Jan/18:15] <LosGuy> Shdocvw.dll   http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q175/9/30.ASP?LNG=ENG&SA=PER
[03 Jan/18:15] <Kapone`> is there a program that will manage pop upwindows?
[03 Jan/18:15] <LosGuy> there are many Kapone`
[03 Jan/18:16] <LosGuy> ie popup killer
[03 Jan/18:16] <Kapone`> really?
[03 Jan/18:16] <Kapone`> hmm
[03 Jan/18:16] <LosGuy> atguard
[03 Jan/18:16] <Kapone`> just one to click something that keeps poping up every hour with this program I have
[03 Jan/18:16] <LosGuy> oh
[03 Jan/18:16] <LosGuy> that is different
[03 Jan/18:16] <Kapone`> ?
[03 Jan/18:16] <LosGuy> there is a program called "buzzoff" that will click a button for you when ever it is present
[03 Jan/18:17] <Kapone`> really?
[03 Jan/18:17] <Kapone`> hmm
[03 Jan/18:17] <LosGuy> popup windows are a web thing
[03 Jan/18:17] <pyrokiwi> kewl
[03 Jan/18:17] <Kapone`> is Buzzoff for web?
[03 Jan/18:17] <LosGuy> no
[03 Jan/18:17] <Kapone`> good
[03 Jan/18:18] <Kapone`> know where I can find something ?
[03 Jan/18:18] <Kapone`> er
[03 Jan/18:18] <Kapone`> that program
[03 Jan/18:18] <LosGuy> it was acutally written to get rid of naggy software.. ie notice that winzip will move the OK button around randomly?
[03 Jan/18:18] <Kapone`> yeah
[03 Jan/18:19] <Kapone`> but this program I have is just one button
[03 Jan/18:19] <Kapone`> and it just freakin popped up
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[03 Jan/18:19] <LosGuy> that was done cuz of programs that push buttons like buzzoff
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[03 Jan/18:19] <Kapone`> I need a program like that
[03 Jan/18:19] <_atomic_> is minsweepr/solitaire in windows or windows/system direc
[03 Jan/18:19] <LosGuy> well go loof for it
[03 Jan/18:19] <LosGuy> look
[03 Jan/18:19] * LosGuy has no games installed
[03 Jan/18:20] <LosGuy> no MS games that is
[03 Jan/18:20] <Kapone`> Im looking
[03 Jan/18:20] <_atomic_> i dont'
[03 Jan/18:20] <_atomic_> have em
[03 Jan/18:20] <Kapone`> maybe its called
[03 Jan/18:20] <Kapone`> buzof
[03 Jan/18:20] <Wolf^^> LosGuy> Just wondering have you read that page yet?
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[03 Jan/18:21] <LosGuy> you mean the one that I posted for you?
[03 Jan/18:21] <Wolf^^> If so, maybe you help explian something to me..
[03 Jan/18:21] <Wolf^^> yeah
[03 Jan/18:21] <LosGuy> ok there now
[03 Jan/18:22] <LosGuy> Wolf^^?
[03 Jan/18:22] <Wolf^^> Are they saying to in DOS to rename the current one, then copy the one on the 98cd to the c:\windows\system dir ??
[03 Jan/18:23] <LosGuy> yes
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[03 Jan/18:23] <LosGuy> but you just did it a little bit differently
[03 Jan/18:23] <Wolf^^> Ok, question...sorry I type slow
[03 Jan/18:23] <pyrokiwi> thats ok
[03 Jan/18:23] <LosGuy> since you had already copied it from your cdrom to your hd
[03 Jan/18:23] <Wolf^^> Isn't that what CJ had me do, just a some what differ way?
[03 Jan/18:23] <Wolf^^> and..
[03 Jan/18:24] <Wolf^^> When I did that, it asked me to replace the current for the copy and I said yes
[03 Jan/18:24] <LosGuy> ok
[03 Jan/18:25] <Wolf^^> so couldn't I just restart in DOS, rename the old, but instead of hitting the CD for the new, copy again from the temp dir?
[03 Jan/18:25] <Wolf^^> because I would thing it's still there...though I could be wrong
[03 Jan/18:26] <LosGuy> yes
[03 Jan/18:26] <LosGuy> that is what cj told you to do...that should work fine
[03 Jan/18:26] <LosGuy> because you have already extracted the file from your cdrom
[03 Jan/18:26] <Wolf^^> Well I don't remember him saying to rename the old...but I could have missed that part
[03 Jan/18:27] <Wolf^^> ok...well I'm off again to give it yet another try
[03 Jan/18:27] <Wolf^^> brb
[03 Jan/18:27] <Wolf^^> I hope
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[03 Jan/18:27] <LosGuy> it shouldnt matter 
[03 Jan/18:29] <pyrokiwi> sya gtg
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[03 Jan/18:43] <Wolf^^> this is not my day
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[03 Jan/18:45] <Wolf^^> LosGuy you still there?
[03 Jan/18:45] <Los_Guy> yeah
[03 Jan/18:46] <Los_Guy> sorta
[03 Jan/18:46] <Wolf^^> didn't work
[03 Jan/18:46] <Los_Guy> getting ready to play some quake on my other machine
[03 Jan/18:46] <Los_Guy> hmm
[03 Jan/18:46] <Los_Guy> try searching deja.com
[03 Jan/18:46] <Los_Guy> and MS knowledge base
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[03 Jan/18:47] <Wolf^^> ms knowledge base?
[03 Jan/18:47] <Los_Guy> yes
[03 Jan/18:48] <Wolf^^> where is that?
[03 Jan/18:48] <Los_Guy> uh dont have a URL for you on this box... but is is basicly support.microsoft.com I belive
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[03 Jan/18:49] <Wolf^^> ok
[03 Jan/18:50] <Wolf^^> Let me ask you this...would reinstalling fix it though?
[03 Jan/18:50] <unyieldng> is it possible to hook an audio cassette into computeR?
[03 Jan/18:51] <Los_Guy> Wolf^^ cant awnser that for you
[03 Jan/18:51] <Wolf^^> k
[03 Jan/18:51] <Wolf^^> then let me just say F**K!  lol
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[03 Jan/18:51] <Los_Guy> unyieldng ... had an old commodore 128 that read data from a tape recorder... took forever to load a program
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[03 Jan/18:52] <unyieldng> los: i mean to record something being played from computer to cassette. (audio)
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[03 Jan/18:53] <Los_Guy> unyieldng I have never done it but I can almost certainly say that it should be possible... most anything is
[03 Jan/18:53] <unyieldng> k thanks
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[03 Jan/19:04] <MNrider> for a couple of days things (esp. games) have been 'pausing', just momentary slow downs that ruin the play. any ideas?
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[03 Jan/19:16] <Research> Now this is an exciting room
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[03 Jan/19:16] <LosQ3> it has its moments
[03 Jan/19:18] <Research> really?
[03 Jan/19:18] <Research> when?
[03 Jan/19:18] <Research> ok....
[03 Jan/19:19] <Research> somebody ask a question
[03 Jan/19:19] <Research> not a "I'm trying to make myself look smart question"
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[03 Jan/19:19] <Wolf^^> LosGuy> Take you're off playing Quake3 huh?
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[03 Jan/19:20] <LosQ3> yeah just got it and a new system
[03 Jan/19:20] <Wolf^^> lucky you
[03 Jan/19:20] <Wolf^^> best I can do is Q2
[03 Jan/19:20] <Wolf^^> no 3d card
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[03 Jan/19:21] <Redgreen> can anyone tell me how to turn a .bin file into a useable file. (was a .rar file to begin with)
[03 Jan/19:21] <LosQ3> :{
[03 Jan/19:22] <LosQ3> just renamed Redgreen?
[03 Jan/19:22] <LosQ3> go to a dos prompt in that folder and type ren file.bin file.rar
[03 Jan/19:23] <Redgreen> thanks.
[03 Jan/19:23] <LosQ3> np
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[03 Jan/19:26] <sendkeys> hello
[03 Jan/19:26] <sendkeys> does anyone have a cdr here?
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[03 Jan/19:26] * LosQ3 does
[03 Jan/19:26] <sendkeys> losq3 would you help me?
[03 Jan/19:27] <sendkeys> could you make me a iso of a boot disk?
[03 Jan/19:27] <sendkeys> pleaseeeeeeeeeee
[03 Jan/19:27] <sendkeys> please
[03 Jan/19:27] <LosQ3> why?
[03 Jan/19:27] <Research> iso?
[03 Jan/19:27] <Research> am I on crack....?
[03 Jan/19:27] <Research> what is ISO
[03 Jan/19:27] <sendkeys> i dont have a floppy
[03 Jan/19:27] <sendkeys> iso id a image of a a file
[03 Jan/19:27] <LosQ3> so make one
[03 Jan/19:27] <sendkeys> and have to make a boot cd
[03 Jan/19:27] <LosQ3> no sorry
[03 Jan/19:27] <sendkeys> i dont have a floppy drive or i would
[03 Jan/19:28] <sendkeys> just need teh damn iso
[03 Jan/19:28] <sendkeys> only take 5 mins
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[03 Jan/19:30] <hexn> Thanks Zeus.
[03 Jan/19:31] <Research> so, I'm still confused los
[03 Jan/19:31] <Research> sendkey wanted to make a boot cd???
[03 Jan/19:31] <Research> for win98
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[03 Jan/19:31] <Research> Los!
[03 Jan/19:31] <Research> you there
[03 Jan/19:31] <LosQ3> yeah I guess research
[03 Jan/19:32] <Wolf^^> didn't think you could
[03 Jan/19:32] <Research> why a boot cd?
[03 Jan/19:32] <LosQ3> he didnt have a foppy he said
[03 Jan/19:32] <LosQ3> floppy drive
[03 Jan/19:32] <Research> you could but you'd have to burn a custom
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[03 Jan/19:32] <Research> 98 won't boot from a cd.....
[03 Jan/19:33] <LosQ3> some OEM versions will
[03 Jan/19:33] <Research> lol.... yeah I guess, if you like Compaqs
[03 Jan/19:34] <Research> I would think it would be easier to buy a $10 floppy drive.
[03 Jan/19:34] <Research> but thats just me
[03 Jan/19:34] <LosQ3> no kidding
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[03 Jan/19:35] <Wolf^^> the threads in deja.com suck, because they ain't really there
[03 Jan/19:36] <Research> Los, what do all these people in here do?  Just come to the room and sit here?
[03 Jan/19:36] <Research> voyeurs..........?
[03 Jan/19:36] <Research> spectators
[03 Jan/19:36] <Research> peepin toms
[03 Jan/19:36] <Research> spys maybe
[03 Jan/19:36] <Research> CIA
[03 Jan/19:36] <Research> KGB
[03 Jan/19:36] <Research> huh
[03 Jan/19:36] <Research> getting warm?
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[03 Jan/19:36] <Research> <sigh>
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[03 Jan/19:36] <LosQ3> most of the ones that I know are busy in other channels etc
[03 Jan/19:37] <Research> oh.... well, then
[03 Jan/19:37] <LosQ3> or are doing other things
[03 Jan/19:37] <Wolf^^> I'm hanging around in hope to fix a porblem
[03 Jan/19:37] <LosQ3> I leave this on my other comupter
[03 Jan/19:37] * LosQ3 doesnt know what else to tell Wolf^^
[03 Jan/19:37] <Research> what prob wolf?
[03 Jan/19:37] <Research> yours?
[03 Jan/19:37] <Research> or someone elses?
[03 Jan/19:37] <Wolf^^> DLing IE service pack2 in hopes to fix the shdocvw.dll thing
[03 Jan/19:38] <Wolf^^> someone had the same sorta porblem...not as dead on as mine
[03 Jan/19:38] <Research> why not just extract shdocvw.dll
[03 Jan/19:38] <Research> what's it doing?
[03 Jan/19:38] <Research> give me details ......G
[03 Jan/19:38] <Wolf^^> but said he dl the ie service pack 2 and that fixed, then he said he for ie5 and it completely whent away
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[03 Jan/19:39] <Wolf^^> Research> I've gone through all of that
[03 Jan/19:39] <Wolf^^> I've let SFC reaplce the dll
[03 Jan/19:39] <Research> tell me the prob.... I might be able to help
[03 Jan/19:39] <Research> what's it doing?
[03 Jan/19:40] <Wolf^^> and I've copied it to a temp dir, then restared in DOS renamed the old and replaced with the new from the temp dir
[03 Jan/19:40] <Research> but what was the original prob
[03 Jan/19:40] <Research> why did you do that?
[03 Jan/19:40] <Wolf^^> if I try to open My Computer or Windows Explorer I get an error about explorer and shdocvw.dll
[03 Jan/19:41] <Research> did you use SFC to extract explorer.exe and shdocvw.dll?
[03 Jan/19:42] <Wolf^^> And to no real surprise to me, because winblows is so wack...if I try to open internet explorer...I ge the same chit
[03 Jan/19:42] <Wolf^^> Yep
[03 Jan/19:42] <Research> and you still get the same thing?
[03 Jan/19:42] <Wolf^^> first the dll, said it wanted to restart...so I tryied the same on explorer.exe restarted...same crap
[03 Jan/19:43] <Research> I'm assuming IE4.xx
[03 Jan/19:43] <Wolf^^> Yep, got the same error as my computer...in 98 they sorta do hand in hand though
[03 Jan/19:43] <Research> you have IE4 right?
[03 Jan/19:44] <Wolf^^> I tried to use the Windows Update in the start bar...same error
[03 Jan/19:44] <Research> explorer ipf's shdocvw.dll?
[03 Jan/19:45] <Wolf^^> ipf's??
[03 Jan/19:45] <Research> "invalid page fault"
[03 Jan/19:45] <Wolf^^> yeah
[03 Jan/19:46] <Wolf^^> one sec and I'll copy/paste the first line of the Details from the error box
[03 Jan/19:46] <Research> cool
[03 Jan/19:46] <Wolf^^> EXPLORER caused an invalid page fault in
[03 Jan/19:46] <Wolf^^> module SHDOCVW.DLL at 0177:79eadda1.
[03 Jan/19:46] <Wolf^^> there is tons more to the detail...but that's the basic crap
[03 Jan/19:46] <Research> Did you let SFC scan for altered files to see if other shell components were corrupt?
[03 Jan/19:47] <Research> shell32.dll
[03 Jan/19:47] <Research> shell.vxd
[03 Jan/19:47] <Research> mshtml.dll
[03 Jan/19:47] <Research> etc.
[03 Jan/19:47] <Research> ?
[03 Jan/19:47] <Wolf^^> SFC scanned...come up clean
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[03 Jan/19:47] <Research> when did this all start?
[03 Jan/19:47] <Research> what changed.?
[03 Jan/19:48] <Wolf^^> Let me think a bit...plus I type slow
[03 Jan/19:48] <Research> k
[03 Jan/19:49] <Wolf^^> I was online had AllAdvantage and PayBar running...paybar actted like a bitch, and wanted to quit...and everything after that followed just about
[03 Jan/19:50] <Wolf^^> And then before restarting...I uninstalled Internetphone, something I'd been meaning to do since it sucks fat ones
[03 Jan/19:50] <Wolf^^> restarted and error
[03 Jan/19:50] <Research> the service pack might update the files it might not..... I don't know for sure
[03 Jan/19:50] <Research> IE5 will for sure
[03 Jan/19:51] <Wolf^^> That's why I'm geting the SP2 now...if ya want I'll get ya the url from deja that said they had the same problem...their address thingie is differ from mine
[03 Jan/19:52] <Research> I can give you a list of files to extract if that doesn't update them....
[03 Jan/19:52] <Research> if you want.
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[03 Jan/19:52] <Wolf^^> huh?
[03 Jan/19:52] <Wolf^^> a list of files what?
[03 Jan/19:52] <Research> to extract...... that will fix it for you
[03 Jan/19:52] <Research> if you have a win98 retail version
[03 Jan/19:53] <Research> or a flat copied
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[03 Jan/19:53] <Wolf^^> Win98 Upgrade
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[03 Jan/19:53] <Wolf^^> dad bought it from the store...MicroCenter more than likely
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[03 Jan/19:54] <Research> that works
[03 Jan/19:54] <Wolf^^> Well if this SP2 and upgrade to IE5 (which I'd rather not to only because I hate IE with a passion) doens't work...then a reinstall of the OS sure and chit better work
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[03 Jan/19:55] <Research> lol..... that will work for sure.....
[03 Jan/19:55] <Wolf^^> sure as chit that is
[03 Jan/19:55] <Research> but this problem is a 10 minute fix.
[03 Jan/19:55] <Wolf^^> I've been here for about 30 or so trying to fix...some 10min fix
[03 Jan/19:55] <Wolf^^> lol
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[03 Jan/19:56] <Wolf^^> the installer for SP2 is running now...1hr 20mins....right now down to 50mins left
[03 Jan/19:56] <Research> you just need to extract the shell files and you'll be fine.
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[03 Jan/19:56] <Research> lol
[03 Jan/19:56] <Research> good luck
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[03 Jan/19:56] <munkyman> can ne1 reccommend a good webpage for hardware reviews?
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[03 Jan/19:56] <pyrokiwi> hiya all
[03 Jan/19:57] <pyrokiwi> munkyman wat hardware?
[03 Jan/19:57] <CJbat> www.sharkyextreme.com
[03 Jan/19:58] <munkyman> cd writers
[03 Jan/19:58] <pyrokiwi> hmm dunno try his site
[03 Jan/19:59] <pyrokiwi> only kewl site i know is www.motherboards.org
[03 Jan/19:59] <LosQ3> tomshardware.com
[03 Jan/19:59] <pyrokiwi> but that wont hav cdwriters
[03 Jan/19:59] <CJbat> ooo  Quaking Los?
[03 Jan/19:59] <LosQ3> trying to
[03 Jan/19:59] <CJbat> :P
[03 Jan/19:59] <LosQ3> my new system is puking 
[03 Jan/19:59] <CJbat> gotta wait to get my copy of Q3
[03 Jan/19:59] <pyrokiwi> lol
[03 Jan/19:59] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm
[03 Jan/20:00] <pyrokiwi> nah wont run on my pc
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[03 Jan/20:01] <Dodgey> hello all, have a easy one(i hope) need to know what channel the room name is to correct a open proxy 
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[03 Jan/20:02] <LosQ3> to report one?]
[03 Jan/20:02] <LosQ3> or to get help with yours?
[03 Jan/20:02] <pyrokiwi> >?<
[03 Jan/20:03] <Wolf^^> Los> Your new system can't be as bad as mine
[03 Jan/20:03] <Dodgey> to get help with mine
[03 Jan/20:03] <Wolf^^> Atleast your win-explorer works :-P
[03 Jan/20:03] <LosQ3> Dodgey turn on servernotices
[03 Jan/20:03] <LosQ3> they give the URL for help on every GLINE for it
[03 Jan/20:04] <Dodgey> k thanks
[03 Jan/20:04] <LosQ3> probably linked on cservice.undernet.org also
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[03 Jan/20:05] <LosQ3> http://help.undernet.org/proxyscan.htm
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[03 Jan/21:11] <L0k3y> anyone here burned bootable cds in win98?
[03 Jan/21:12] <tranced> in or of?
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[03 Jan/21:16] <Wolf^^MP3> Hey LosGuy...you around?
[03 Jan/21:16] <LosQ3> not really :P
[03 Jan/21:16] <Wolf^^MP3> Got it fixed
[03 Jan/21:17] <LosQ3> with IE5?
[03 Jan/21:17] <Wolf^^MP3> Nope..just the SP2 did it
[03 Jan/21:17] <LosQ3> anyway congrats
[03 Jan/21:17] <LosQ3> excellent
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[03 Jan/21:18] <Wolf^^MP3> Anyone else shows up with the same prob and nothing else works...tell them to go to download.com and search for the IE4 service pack 2 and the standard install is enough
[03 Jan/21:19] <LosQ3> k sure will
[03 Jan/21:19] <Wolf^^MP3> Microsoft Indernet Explorer 4 Service Pack 2...is I think how cnet download.com names it..hehe
[03 Jan/21:19] <Wolf^^MP3> internet I mean
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[03 Jan/21:20] <Wolf^^MP3> That long ass name should be easy to remember..hehe
[03 Jan/21:20] <LosQ3> hehe
[03 Jan/21:20] <Wolf^^MP3> I think it might have been something that Internet Phone uninstalled that messed me all up
[03 Jan/21:20] <Wolf^^MP3> What a POS that f-ing thing is anyway
[03 Jan/21:20] <LosQ3> `op Vulcan tribble
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[03 Jan/21:21] <Wolf^^MP3> What about me??!! hehe...just kidding :-)
[03 Jan/21:21] <LosQ3> :P you can live down here with the rest of us mortals
[03 Jan/21:21] <Wolf^^MP3> Anyway...tahnks for your time and suggestions
[03 Jan/21:21] <LosQ3> np
[03 Jan/21:22] <LosQ3> I have not been paying attn here much been busy with other things
[03 Jan/21:22] <Wolf^^MP3> if you had not pointed me to deja.com and if that other guy had not come back to reply to his one prob with the fix...I'd be sitting here NOT online but instead reisntalling the OS
[03 Jan/21:22] <L0k3y> anyone have experience creating bootable cdroms?
[03 Jan/21:23] <Wolf^^MP3> I sorta do...but only on the Mac :-)
[03 Jan/21:23] <L0k3y> all the texts on it are too hard to understand
[03 Jan/21:23] <Wolf^^MP3> Well...I'm gone...thanks again, Happy New Year to you and yours
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[03 Jan/22:12] <Pauly> hello
[03 Jan/22:13] @ mode #win98 [+v Pauly] by Zeus!pegasys@tigerrose.grateful.org
[03 Jan/22:14] <Pauly> quick question I have an old mother-board with a P-120 and want to put a 16 gig hardrive on it.  I Fdisked the drive and it only reads 2 gigs and says the h-drive is full.  I updated my bios and now I only have 1 gig!!!!!!!!
[03 Jan/22:14] <LosQ3> soh
[03 Jan/22:14] <LosQ3> doh even
[03 Jan/22:15] <LosQ3> you might try a drive overlay (but they blow imho)
[03 Jan/22:16] <Pauly> I know my mother-board sucks but I am just trying to get it working!
[03 Jan/22:16] <LosQ3> uh interesting that it is 2gb wich was the dos fat32 limit
[03 Jan/22:16] <LosQ3> your choosing large hd support and using fat32 right?
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[03 Jan/22:17] <Pauly> I am using fat32 
[03 Jan/22:17] <Pauly> I didn't see large hd support anywhere
[03 Jan/22:18] <LosQ3> fdisk will ask when you first start it
[03 Jan/22:18] <LosQ3> only thing that I can think of is try a drive overlay
[03 Jan/22:19] <LosQ3> most HD manufacturers make them available
[03 Jan/22:19] <LosQ3> ie Ontrack or maxtors ezdrive etc
[03 Jan/22:19] <Pauly> maxtor h-drive
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[03 Jan/22:20] <Pauly> do u think I could be missing a setting in the bios somewhere to enable large disk support
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[03 Jan/22:20] <LosQ3> is it seen as LBA ?
[03 Jan/22:20] <LosQ3> or do you even have the option?
[03 Jan/22:21] <LosQ3> did your bios up grade allow for large hard drives?
[03 Jan/22:21] <Pauly> Yes it is seen as an LBA
[03 Jan/22:21] <Pauly> I wasn't to sure! somebody in this channel gave it to me :)
[03 Jan/22:21] <LosQ3> gave you a link to it you mean?
[03 Jan/22:22] <LosQ3> or the actual files?
[03 Jan/22:22] <Pauly> the actual files
[03 Jan/22:23] <LosQ3> hmmm
[03 Jan/22:23] <LosQ3> very odd since we do not do files here of any sort
[03 Jan/22:23] <Pauly> well he gave me his ftp site
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[03 Jan/22:23] <LosQ3> and I am shocked that you actually ran them
[03 Jan/22:24] <Knocks> is there a command to look up another irc user's workgroup name in win98
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[03 Jan/22:24] <LosQ3> it depends ... and in win98 no
[03 Jan/22:25] <LosQ3> there are third party apps that will get all available info from an IP 
[03 Jan/22:25] <LosQ3> ie finger etc
[03 Jan/22:25] <Knocks> i c
[03 Jan/22:25] <LosQ3> free third party apps too
[03 Jan/22:25] <LosQ3> and some firewalls are very good at picking that info up
[03 Jan/22:26] <LosQ3> ie blackice defender
[03 Jan/22:26] <Knocks> but it's not really a concern if somebody finds out your group name is it
[03 Jan/22:26] <LosQ3> well
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[03 Jan/22:26] <LosQ3> that in itself is only of limited use
[03 Jan/22:26] <LosQ3> but if you have shares enabled and not at least password protected
[03 Jan/22:26] <LosQ3> you are sharing with the world
[03 Jan/22:27] <Knocks> you mean if i have particular folders shared?
[03 Jan/22:27] <LosQ3> yes ...even your printert
[03 Jan/22:27] <LosQ3> printer
[03 Jan/22:27] <Knocks> i don't
[03 Jan/22:28] <LosQ3> then you have little to worry about unless your running a server
[03 Jan/22:28] <Knocks> some a$$hole was trying to tease me cuz he found out the name of my workgroup and i was concerned first
[03 Jan/22:28] <LosQ3> hmm just a sec
[03 Jan/22:28] <Knocks> because the name of my group matches the name of one of the files on my desktop
[03 Jan/22:28] <Knocks> so i thought he was able to browse my desktop and stuff
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[03 Jan/22:29] <LosQ3> nah
[03 Jan/22:30] <Knocks> :)
[03 Jan/22:30] <LosQ3> unlikely unless your infected with a trojan or have an unsecure setup 
[03 Jan/22:30] <LosQ3> with file and printer sharing
[03 Jan/22:30] <Knocks> well that's what i thought had happened
[03 Jan/22:30] <Knocks> especially with all the rumors about the new trojans and stuff
[03 Jan/22:30] <LosQ3> w98 where is conseal
[03 Jan/22:30] <w98> i haven't a clue, losq3
[03 Jan/22:31] <LosQ3> sheez
[03 Jan/22:31] <Knocks> and then i got the blue screen
[03 Jan/22:31] <LosQ3> go to signal9.com and get a firewall if your concerned
[03 Jan/22:31] <Knocks> so i thought he had planted a trojan on my system and was accessing my hard drive
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[03 Jan/23:20] @ mode #win98 [+v ViPeR3000] by Zeus!pegasys@tigerrose.grateful.org
[03 Jan/23:21] <ViPeR3000> Can anybody help me with the following problem?? : It says when i start up win98 Something about a file missing in config.sys line 6
[03 Jan/23:21] <ViPeR3000> and the line is :REM [CD-ROM Drive]
[03 Jan/23:21] <ViPeR3000> device=c:\realmode\atapi.sys /d:mscd001
[03 Jan/23:21] <ViPeR3000> and I unistalled realplayer
[03 Jan/23:21] <ViPeR3000> and I guess that's why it's saying that
[03 Jan/23:22] <ViPeR3000> but I didn't remove everything properly I guess. How Do I get rid of the error message with out screwing up my CD Rom driver rem thing???
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[03 Jan/23:23] <lazer69> Is There a way to make windows automatically shut itself down at a certain time?
[03 Jan/23:23] <ViPeR3000> yes I think they are
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[03 Jan/23:23] <ViPeR3000> I've seen things like that at Tucows.com
[03 Jan/23:23] @ mode #win98 [+v fr] by Zeus!pegasys@tigerrose.grateful.org
[03 Jan/23:24] <fr> hello 
[03 Jan/23:24] <w98> niihau, fr
[03 Jan/23:24] <lazer69> you wouldn't know a way to do that with task schedule ror anything would you?
[03 Jan/23:24] <fr> can some 1 tell me please where i could get a dll file ??please 
[03 Jan/23:24] <fr> sos9505.dll
[03 Jan/23:24] <ViPeR3000> No
[03 Jan/23:25] <ViPeR3000> :-(
[03 Jan/23:26] <fr> ok thanks 
[03 Jan/23:26] <fr> u know where i could ask ??
[03 Jan/23:26] <ViPeR3000> your welcome
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[03 Jan/23:30] <zhylum> *bonks head* i cant fix my poooter *cries*
[03 Jan/23:31] * zhylum feels loved
[03 Jan/23:31] * zhylum is aww alone
[03 Jan/23:34] <ViPeR3000> Zhyl what's the prob>
[03 Jan/23:34] <ViPeR3000> ?
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[03 Jan/23:37] <ViPeR3000> Anybody have atapi.sys for me I lost it??
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[03 Jan/23:48] <LifeBlood> no files, please read the topic
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[03 Jan/23:59] @ mode #win98 [+v gotenx] by Zeus!pegasys@tigerrose.grateful.org
[03 Jan/23:59] <gotenx> where can I find win98's drivers for CMI8330 soundpro sound card 
[03 Jan/23:59] <gotenx> I have look all around but didn't find
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[04 Jan/00:39] <Research> yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
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[04 Jan/00:47] <Research> millllllllllllllltttttt
[04 Jan/00:47] <Milton> REa
[04 Jan/00:48] <Milton> How's my favorite little cracker?
[04 Jan/00:48] <Research> salty as they come bra
[04 Jan/00:48] <Milton> Well you are what you eat... (so to speak)
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[04 Jan/02:25] <Tandbreg> i know LINUX it rules
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[04 Jan/02:43] <Tandbreg> LINUX works in opposit to win
[04 Jan/02:45] <Tandbreg> fuck this channel!!!!
[04 Jan/02:48] * Tandbreg slaps Proteus around a bit with a large trout
[04 Jan/02:48] * Tandbreg slaps Mandy around a bit with a large trout
[04 Jan/02:49] * Tandbreg slaps LifeBlood around a bit with a large trout
[04 Jan/02:49] * Tandbreg slaps Amsterdam around a bit with a large trout
[04 Jan/02:49] * Tandbreg slaps Tribble around a bit with a large trout
[04 Jan/02:49] * Tandbreg slaps W around a bit with a large trout
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[04 Jan/03:05] <hexn> Can someone help me?
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[04 Jan/03:24] <f7> hello, how can i create a win2k boot disk, only for command prompt, i need to access my NTFS and i cant with the win98 bootdisk?
[04 Jan/03:31] < SignOff: f7!f7@195-23-247-151.nr.ip.pt (I will be back ...)
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[04 Jan/03:33] <p0larbear> heh
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[04 Jan/03:33] <p0larbear> ok , i have a problem
[04 Jan/03:33] <p0larbear> with outlook 2000
[04 Jan/03:34] <p0larbear> theres this one computer that refuse to work right  with the nt server
[04 Jan/03:34] <p0larbear> heh
[04 Jan/03:34] <p0larbear> and it just dont make any sense
[04 Jan/03:34] <p0larbear> because theyre all set up alike
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[04 Jan/04:47] <Raza> hi
[04 Jan/04:48] <Raza> does anyone knows how to change the 'new' menu?
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[04 Jan/05:53] <Big2k> i got this msg yesterday on my computer says installing msn messanger 2.0 then it got stuck
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[04 Jan/05:57] <Big2k> hello
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[04 Jan/06:03] <Wez4> well well if mrgone was here.....
[04 Jan/06:03] <mrgone> oh yeah
[04 Jan/06:04] <Wez4> spic ob de debiL!!!!
[04 Jan/06:05] <Wez4>  <<ÐêtóÑ8®>> v4.0  Digital Damnation Edition.
[04 Jan/06:05] <Wez4> new toy...
[04 Jan/06:06] <mrgone> :)
[04 Jan/06:06] <mrgone> uh oh
[04 Jan/06:06] <mrgone> rnapp just crashed
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[04 Jan/06:11] <Tara2> how does we fix the machine when it has crashed
[04 Jan/06:17] <Wez4> l33t
[04 Jan/06:18] <mrgone> reinstall windows?
[04 Jan/06:19] <Wez4> heh
[04 Jan/06:19] <wezwrk>  <<ÐêtóÑ8®>> v3.0  Internet terrorism at its finest.
[04 Jan/06:21] <mrgone> rbr
[04 Jan/06:22] <mrgone> brb
[04 Jan/06:23] <Tara2> ok that is all
[04 Jan/06:38] <mrgone> back
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[04 Jan/06:57] < SignOff: mrgone!~Webmaster@ts2-138.brg.tallships.ca (cept when ya say 'the storm of `91' itll be 'the storm of `01' which is stupid)
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[04 Jan/07:21] < SignOff: CJ^!skippy@sdn-ar-003watacoP009.dialsprint.net (yeah.. you too can run Win98.. in all the shades of blue.... Page Fault at www.the-hunters.org/Goirc)
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[04 Jan/07:22] <deek44> i solved my win98 install problem (if anyone remembers)
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[04 Jan/07:29] <ShaDoW|> i've got 97 megs with cookies in my internet-tempfolder... can i delete it?
[04 Jan/07:31] <mrgone> yes
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[04 Jan/07:47] <ShaDoW|> what happens when i delete all the cookies
[04 Jan/07:47] <ShaDoW|> ?
[04 Jan/07:47] <ShaDoW|> n'stuff
[04 Jan/07:47] <Wez4> yup
[04 Jan/07:48] <Wez4> eheh beat ya!!!!
[04 Jan/07:48] <Wez4> :P
[04 Jan/07:48] <Wez4> ptpphttttt
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[04 Jan/08:00] <Crabster> lo
[04 Jan/08:00] <Crabster> need help
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[04 Jan/08:01] <Crabster> i just got a pair of headphones, but they give a really really weak sound
[04 Jan/08:01] <Crabster> i got the volume control on max
[04 Jan/08:01] <Crabster> what can i do?
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[04 Jan/08:02] <daygo> i have a lock up problem it is comimg from my virtual device driver how are what can i do to resolve this problem
[04 Jan/08:03] <Wez4> they go away and there is much rejoicing
[04 Jan/08:04] <daygo> help me please
[04 Jan/08:07] <daygo> can someboby help me
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[04 Jan/08:09] <AnnnA> can some one please help set direct conection betwen my 2 pcs using a paralel cable?
[04 Jan/08:12] <AnnnA> can some one please help set direct conection betwen my 2 pcs using a paralel cable?
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[04 Jan/08:13] <AnnnA> can some one please help set direct conection betwen my 2 pcs using a paralel cable?
[04 Jan/08:13] <Sazuke> Warez?
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[04 Jan/08:19] <normrick3> does anyone know anything about the linux operating system
[04 Jan/08:20] <normrick3> hello
[04 Jan/08:20] <Wez4> annna: www.helmig.com
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[04 Jan/08:25] <CJ^> `op
[04 Jan/08:26] <CJ^> `op
[04 Jan/08:26] <CJ^> `op
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[04 Jan/08:29] <Azmodan> -op Aphrodite Athena_ Vulcan zeus
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[04 Jan/08:29] <CJ^> :P
[04 Jan/08:29] <CJ^> flipping bots...
[04 Jan/08:30] <LifeBlood> OI, I resemble that remark!
[04 Jan/08:30] <mrgone> you mean resent... not resemble
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[04 Jan/08:31] <LifeBlood> think about it mrgone
[04 Jan/08:31] <CJ^> yeah
[04 Jan/08:31] <mrgone> ya works both ways if yer an idiot :)
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[04 Jan/08:32] <mrgone> hehe
[04 Jan/08:32] <CJ^> -op
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[04 Jan/08:32] <mrgone> all my snow is gone
[04 Jan/08:32] <mrgone> been raining for a long time
[04 Jan/08:32] <CJ^> thanky
[04 Jan/08:33] <mrgone> stupid weather doesnt know its in canada
[04 Jan/08:33] <Azmodan> np
[04 Jan/08:34] <CJ^> brb
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[04 Jan/08:35] <mrgone> itll prolly snow till may if it ever starts
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[04 Jan/08:50] <mrgone>  well i gotta go to work now, see ya in 9 hours
[04 Jan/08:51] < SignOff: mrgone!~Webmaster@ts2-138.brg.tallships.ca (cept when ya say 'the storm of `91' itll be 'the storm of `01' which is stupid)
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[04 Jan/09:16] <SITH> hy there
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[04 Jan/09:17] <Wez4> hey...
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[04 Jan/09:19] <MrBungaa> Any access experts in here ???
[04 Jan/09:19] <CJ^> nope....
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[04 Jan/09:20] <CJ^> we really deal with the OS issues not the applications
[04 Jan/09:22] <MrBungaa> oki
[04 Jan/09:22] <MrBungaa> know where i can seek help ???
[04 Jan/09:22] <Azmodan> MrBungaa, whats the problem I may be able to help
[04 Jan/09:22] <MrBungaa> im making a query
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[04 Jan/09:23] <MrBungaa> where i can ENTER search values
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[04 Jan/09:23] <Azmodan> do you want to grab them from a form entry field or just put them in the query itself?
[04 Jan/09:23] <MrBungaa> but it won't work when i type E*
[04 Jan/09:24] <MrBungaa> i have made the query
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[04 Jan/09:24] <Azmodan> and you can't get the criteria to work?
[04 Jan/09:24] <MajicEyes> Does anyone know how I can stop drive spindown? Seems like every time I access a drive it needs to get back to speed
[04 Jan/09:24] <MrBungaa> yeah thats right
[04 Jan/09:24] <MrBungaa> it only works if i type the whole word
[04 Jan/09:24] <Azmodan> MrBungaa, put like E*
[04 Jan/09:24] <MrBungaa> i tried
[04 Jan/09:24] <MrBungaa> it wont work
[04 Jan/09:25] <MrBungaa> my criteria is like this :
[04 Jan/09:25] <MrBungaa> [Enter Last name :]
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[04 Jan/09:25] <CJ^> majic...after how long
[04 Jan/09:25] <Azmodan> so you are not putting E* into the critera your alowing a user to input it?
[04 Jan/09:26] <MajicEyes> seems liek every time I need them
[04 Jan/09:26] <Azmodan> MajicEyes, check power management in control panel
[04 Jan/09:26] <CJ^> well.. drive soin dow happens...
[04 Jan/09:26] <Azmodan> MajicEyes, tell it not to turn the power off
[04 Jan/09:26] <CJ^> check power management...
[04 Jan/09:26] [MrBungaa> Azmodan : Yes
[04 Jan/09:27] <CJ^> see if the drives are slated to power down
[04 Jan/09:27] <MajicEyes> hmmmm I don't think it's there but I will look
[04 Jan/09:27] <MrBungaa> I want the user to input the value
[04 Jan/09:27] <Azmodan> MrBungaa, the * does not work when its input by a user.  And I can't remember how I got around it, sorry
[04 Jan/09:27] <MrBungaa> Hmmmm
[04 Jan/09:27] <MajicEyes> i think its this #$@% m571 MB
[04 Jan/09:27] <MrBungaa> it is something with the criteria
[04 Jan/09:28] <MrBungaa> its not typed in the right way
[04 Jan/09:28] <Azmodan> MrBungaa, I'm pretty sure I had to do some code to handle it
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[04 Jan/09:28] <MrBungaa> nope last time i just put in a symbol
[04 Jan/09:28] <MrBungaa> but i cant remember it ?!?!?!?!
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[04 Jan/09:28] <Azmodan> neither can I sorry
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[04 Jan/09:29] <MrBungaa> you know any channels where i can get some help ?
[04 Jan/09:29] <Azmodan> MrBungaa, you could try MSDN Online
[04 Jan/09:29] <MrBungaa> nah i mean here on IRC
[04 Jan/09:29] <Azmodan> MrBungaa, nope
[04 Jan/09:30] <MajicEyes> Nawwwwwww system is on Always on
[04 Jan/09:30] <Azmodan> MajicEyes, there are several settings below where it says that
[04 Jan/09:30] <MrBungaa> ok
[04 Jan/09:30] <MrBungaa> thanx anyway
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[04 Jan/09:30] <Azmodan> MajicEyes, by default a system that is always on does power down the hard drive
[04 Jan/09:31] <CJ^> you may also have to check the bios for the PM settings
[04 Jan/09:31] <MajicEyes> ok I will go look at the BIOS settings
[04 Jan/09:32] <MajicEyes> I don't think they are on in there either tho
[04 Jan/09:32] <MajicEyes> BTW i'm talkin afterr like 5 min not an hr or nothing
[04 Jan/09:33] <CJ^> Majic  thats PM settings
[04 Jan/09:33] <CJ^> i have mine set to turn off after an hour
[04 Jan/09:33] <MajicEyes> OK i will log off & reboot & check them but I think it should be ok
[04 Jan/09:34] <MajicEyes> if it matters I have 3 HD's & it seems like it takes 4 ever to get things rollin
[04 Jan/09:34] <CJ^> well the OS takes the PM calls from the BIOS 
[04 Jan/09:35] <CJ^> so..
[04 Jan/09:35] <CJ^> start there
[04 Jan/09:35] <MajicEyes> ea time I access a drive I hear it spin back up to speed
[04 Jan/09:35] <CJ^> well the better the mb.. the better the bios...
[04 Jan/09:36] <MajicEyes> there is a flash for my bios but it don't really say anything about my prob
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[04 Jan/09:36] <CJ^> well its not a problme really..
[04 Jan/09:36] <CJ^> its just a PM issue...
[04 Jan/09:36] <CJ^> check the bios settings...
[04 Jan/09:36] <MajicEyes> i thought better to leave it alone
[04 Jan/09:36] <CJ^> check the PM settings..
[04 Jan/09:37] <MajicEyes> ok BBS & thanks again
[04 Jan/09:37] <CJ^> has to be in the PM.. either in the OS or the bios..
[04 Jan/09:37] <MajicEyes> ok cya
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[04 Jan/09:46] <oracle^> Hello, could anybody please tell me something about the Internet Connection Sharing in Windows 98 SE ?
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[04 Jan/09:47] <CJ^> what about it?
[04 Jan/09:48] <oracle^> I would like to know, if the Gateway computer can monitor, wht happens on the client machines
[04 Jan/09:48] <oracle^> Are their any data stored on the gateway, like passwords, Mail or URLs, that the clients have visitet?
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[04 Jan/09:49] <CJ^> http://www.microsoft.com/windows98/guide/Win98/Features/InternetConnect.asp
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[04 Jan/09:50] <Azmodan> hey ozzy
[04 Jan/09:50] <CJ^> also  win98SE has a good help file on ICS...
[04 Jan/09:51] <oracle^> Not in the german version I guess.
[04 Jan/09:51] <oracle^> The help file just explains the work principle. But there is nothing about security and privacy.
[04 Jan/09:52] <CJ^> hmm  true...
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[04 Jan/09:52] <Azmodan> oracle, it is no more or less secure than just one pc useing the net
[04 Jan/09:52] <CJ^> i dont think MS had security in mind when they made ICS..
[04 Jan/09:52] <CJ^> think it more of just letting ppl share the Inet connection...
[04 Jan/09:53] <CJ^> more robust apps are needed for security
[04 Jan/09:53] <oracle^> Youre right about this.
[04 Jan/09:54] <oracle^> But before I use it, I would like to knwo if on the gateway computer the client session can be monitored easily
[04 Jan/09:54] <CJ^> funny thing is..  i dont feel MS thinks ppl that use win9x are concerned about security....
[04 Jan/09:54] <Azmodan> oracle, define monitored
[04 Jan/09:54] <oracle^> I know wingate, and this has the posibility to save all the URLS in a cache directory. It shows the URL´s  on the gateway computer
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[04 Jan/09:55] <L0k3y> anyone have experience burning bootable cds?
[04 Jan/09:55] <Azmodan> ics does not do that
[04 Jan/09:56] [oracle^> Azmodan:
[04 Jan/09:57] [oracle^> Azmodan: Monitoring means for me: That the URLS, e.g. Chat conversation is saved in a readable form on the gateway computer.
[04 Jan/09:57] [oracle^> Azmodan: Compare it to the temporaryInternet Files directory
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[04 Jan/09:59] <oracle^> If you have to use a packet sniffer to get the information this would be safe enough for me.
[04 Jan/09:59] <CJ^> oracle.. 
[04 Jan/09:59] <CJ^> the MS DB does nto show anytign about security issues with ICS..
[04 Jan/10:00] <CJ^> it doesnt explain these things cause i agree aith Az...  its not there..
[04 Jan/10:00] <CJ^> ICS wasnt meant to be secure...  just to share the connection  and thats all...
[04 Jan/10:00] <Azmodan> oracle, you WILL need a sniffer to watch client/server communication
[04 Jan/10:03] <oracle^> Àzmodan: I know Win98 isnt a secure system, but Its important to know how insecure it is if you use it.
[04 Jan/10:04] <oracle^> And to use a packet sniffer is a thing thats a little bit complicatet to normal users without to much experience i guess
[04 Jan/10:04] <CJ^> oracle.. again  MS wasnt concerned with security to that level with a consumer OS...
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[04 Jan/10:04] <CJ^> thats why 3rd part apps are out there... 
[04 Jan/10:06] <oracle^> CJ: Right. But for family networks ICS is pretty easy to use and its already payed with the OS.
[04 Jan/10:07] <CJ^> right...
[04 Jan/10:07] <CJ^> BUT  again  it wasnt made to be secure..
[04 Jan/10:07] <CJ^> just to share the connection...
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[04 Jan/10:09] <oracle^> CJ: Do yo know any other program like ICS, that is as easys to cofigure?
[04 Jan/10:09] <oracle^> Wingate has a hell possibilitys to configure e.g
[04 Jan/10:09] <CJ^> winroute.. from what i understand...
[04 Jan/10:11] <L0k3y> anyone have experience burning bootable cds?
[04 Jan/10:11] <Azmodan> L0k3y, nope
[04 Jan/10:12] <oracle^> There is a problem with ICS for me:
[04 Jan/10:12] <oracle^> There are tow computers with a modem in the network. 
[04 Jan/10:12] <oracle^> And I would like both of them being able to wrks as servers (dial out)
[04 Jan/10:12] <oracle^> But this seems to be a problem with ICS
[04 Jan/10:12] <Azmodan> oracle, no its not a problem with ics
[04 Jan/10:13] <Azmodan> its just a problem
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[04 Jan/10:14] [oracle^> Azmodan: Do you know how to configure it?
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[04 Jan/10:15] <oracle^> the client has to get its local network IP designeted automatically
[04 Jan/10:15] <oracle^> But I guess it has to be fixed for the server
[04 Jan/10:15] <Azmodan> oracle, you will have problems getting any dchp based internet shareing working when its installed on two machines
[04 Jan/10:15] <Azmodan> and I'm not going to help you attempt that
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[04 Jan/10:16] [oracle^> Azmodan: But you told me its possiple. right?
[04 Jan/10:16] <Azmodan> no I did not
[04 Jan/10:16] <Azmodan> I would not know becuase I have never attempted it
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[04 Jan/10:17] <oracle^> Is the DHCP protocol integratet into the ICS protocol?
[04 Jan/10:17] <Azmodan> dhcp gives out the ip addresses
[04 Jan/10:17] <Azmodan> ics is not a protocol
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[04 Jan/10:18] <oracle^> What is ICS then? 
[04 Jan/10:18] <Azmodan> ICS is software that allows shareing
[04 Jan/10:18] <Azmodan> it is not a protocol
[04 Jan/10:18] <oracle^> Isnt it an additional networking protocol?
[04 Jan/10:19] <Azmodan> it uses protocols
[04 Jan/10:19] <oracle^> OK. lets say its al mixed up a bit.  8-))
[04 Jan/10:19] <Azmodan> lets not
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[04 Jan/10:19] <Azmodan> (useing my brand new microsoft lawn mower)
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[04 Jan/10:29] <MajicEyes> ok I checked the PM in the BIOS & that all seems fine ... but i still have to wait for the drives to catch-up with me. Could the BIOS update take care of that or am I barkin up the wrong tree?
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[04 Jan/10:32] <MajicEyes> Ping pls
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[04 Jan/10:50] <Azmodan> and don't you come back now ya hear!
[04 Jan/10:51] <wezwrk> whaaaaaaaat? am i banned on the honor system?!?!?
[04 Jan/10:52] <Azmodan> hehe
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[04 Jan/11:02] <Librtarin> Hi, can someone help me with getting windows 98 back after doing a reformat of C: and I have a CD rom with windows98 on it, but my system will not recognize d: now?
[04 Jan/11:03] <wezwrk> if you have access to a running computer, make a new boot disk...
[04 Jan/11:05] <wezwrk> and dump AOL and get a "real" ISP... :)
[04 Jan/11:07] <Librtarin> wez:  treid that, and it boots up to an A; at leat now, and does go to C;, but will not go to D: where my cd rom is to do my setup :(
[04 Jan/11:07] <Librtarin> actually, wait, the running laptop I used to create the boot disk was a win95, will that matter?
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[04 Jan/11:08] <Librtarin> wez:  I hear ya, but that will not solve my current problem of getting my computer to recognize my cd rom to do my windows setup to get it back up to permit me to obtain a new ISP..  :)  actually, this is for a friend, I am good to go myself
[04 Jan/11:08] <Librtarin> Can anyone assist me?  If I creat a boot disk from a laptop with WIN95, and boot up my pc that I want to reinstall my win95 on, will that matter?
[04 Jan/11:09] <Librtarin> and if so, how do I get my pc (that has been reformatted) to allow me to reinstall win98 I have on a cd?
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[04 Jan/11:15] <Phat_Pimp> my usb doesnt work
[04 Jan/11:15] <Phat_Pimp> but i dont use it so its not a big deal right now
[04 Jan/11:16] <Phat_Pimp> win uses asd to bypass it becasue it locks up windows at startup
[04 Jan/11:16] <Phat_Pimp> is there new usb drivers?
[04 Jan/11:18] <Librtarin> and if so, how do I get my pc (that has been reformatted) to allow me to reinstall win98 I have on a cd?
[04 Jan/11:18] <Librtarin> Can anyone assist me?  If I creat a boot disk from a laptop with WIN95, and boot up my pc that I want to reinstall my win95 on, will that matter?
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[04 Jan/11:19] <wezwrk>  <Librtarin>: make your new boot disk using your win98 cd....
[04 Jan/11:21] <Librtarin> wez: How do I do that?
[04 Jan/11:22] <Librtarin> wez: do you mean put that cd into the laptop with win95 I used to create the boot disk?
[04 Jan/11:22] <Librtarin> wez:  and if so, how is that done?  (I am assisting someone over the phone, so not sure what all is on that win98 cd
[04 Jan/11:23] <wezwrk> all you need is the 98 cd, a floppy, and a running machine.....
[04 Jan/11:24] ! ShyGal is known as Shy^Away
[04 Jan/11:24] <Librtarin> wez:  I had her put the cd in the cd drive, the boot disk she created on her win95 laptop, into her drive, and power up, and it comes up recognizing the a: b: & c: drive, but no D: or E: drive
[04 Jan/11:24] <Librtarin> is it possible the cd rom is another drive under this reboot?
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[04 Jan/11:28] <wezwrk> there is no "b:"
[04 Jan/11:29] <Librtarin> :) it showed there was, but it had the same stuf under the DIR command as did the A:
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[04 Jan/11:30] <Librtarin> why is getting assistance so difficult?
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[04 Jan/11:51] <CJ^> `op
[04 Jan/11:51] <CJ^> `op
[04 Jan/11:51] @ mode #win98 [+o CJ^] by Aphrodite!stoner@207.178.66.22
[04 Jan/11:53] <wezwrk> hey cj, what nfs client do you recommend for NT/solaris?
[04 Jan/11:53] <CJ^> solaris shoudl be able to use Samba  right?
[04 Jan/11:54] <wezwrk> well, they are hot for nfs for some reason...
[04 Jan/11:54] < SignOff: LifeBlood!azmodan@phi.compinet.com (G-lined)
[04 Jan/11:54] < SignOff: w98!azmodan@phi.compinet.com (G-lined)
[04 Jan/11:54] <wezwrk> and old sol doesnt do that anymore...
[04 Jan/11:54] <CJ^> geeze
[04 Jan/11:54] <CJ^> what the hell.. the bots got G-LIned?
[04 Jan/11:54] <wezwrk> naw thats just az'z quit msg
[04 Jan/11:56] <wezwrk> samba doesnt like the webtrends generated logs, apparently.....
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[04 Jan/12:00] @ mode #win98 [+v devilDigg] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
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[04 Jan/12:01] @ mode #win98 [+oov Zeus CJ^ CJ^] by phoenix.az.us.undernet.org
[04 Jan/12:03] <CJ^> http://sunfreeware.com/   << wez
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[04 Jan/12:04] ! Athena_ is known as Athena
[04 Jan/12:08] <wezwrk> ?!?!?!? im lookin and lookin and lookin for.......
[04 Jan/12:09] <CJ^> well it has apps for Solaris..
[04 Jan/12:09] <CJ^> i mean  what version are ya runing?
[04 Jan/12:10] <wezwrk> ehhh, 2.x its a mix of 2.x versions...
[04 Jan/12:11] <CJ^> then it has NFS...
[04 Jan/12:11] <CJ^> ya just need a samba server
[04 Jan/12:11] <CJ^> according to what im reading...
[04 Jan/12:11] <wezwrk> hmmmm. where are U reading? 
[04 Jan/12:11] <wezwrk> (damn i hate being the new guy)
[04 Jan/12:11] <wezwrk> :)
[04 Jan/12:11] <CJ^> NFS should be built into the kernel...
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[04 Jan/12:13] <wezwrk> drat...
[04 Jan/12:13] <wezwrk> heheh
[04 Jan/12:13] <CJ^> http://access1.sun.com/   << try there too..
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[04 Jan/12:13] <CJ^> for more info,patches and what not
[04 Jan/12:14] <wezwrk> thx cj :) dang super geeks are sharp!!!
[04 Jan/12:14] <CJ^> :P
[04 Jan/12:14] <CJ^> yeah  now get me a job...:P
[04 Jan/12:14] <wezwrk> where are U?
[04 Jan/12:14] <CJ^> seattle/tacoma
[04 Jan/12:15] <CJ^> still waiti9ng for jobs to open up here..
[04 Jan/12:15] <CJ^> grrrr...
[04 Jan/12:15] <CJ^> contracts have been slow with teh holidays...
[04 Jan/12:16] <wezwrk> well, if you dont mind snow.....MN has a fat stack in the paper, and there are plenty headhunters .........
[04 Jan/12:16] <CJ^> lol
[04 Jan/12:16] <CJ^> i wish
[04 Jan/12:16] <CJ^> i cant leave the area....
[04 Jan/12:16] <devilDigg> bbl
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[04 Jan/12:16] <CJ^> got my kid to think of... or i would..
[04 Jan/12:16] ! Z3r0f3w1 is known as hst6
[04 Jan/12:16] ! hst6 is known as hst^
[04 Jan/12:17] <Azmodan> btw that was a G-Line
[04 Jan/12:17] <wezwrk> understandable...
[04 Jan/12:17] <wezwrk> !
[04 Jan/12:18] <wezwrk> that last URL was a ringer CJ....
[04 Jan/12:18] <wezwrk> too bad telecommuting isnt a reality yet....
[04 Jan/12:18] <CJ^> :P
[04 Jan/12:18] <wezwrk> why would your bot get the "g" az?
[04 Jan/12:18] <CJ^> well it is around here IF ya have DSL or Cable...
[04 Jan/12:19] <Azmodan> the entire class C range got a G
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[04 Jan/12:21] @ mode #win98 [+v [[Dana]]] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[04 Jan/12:21] <[[Dana]]> thank you Vulcan
[04 Jan/12:21] <[[Dana]]> very kind
[04 Jan/12:22] <wezwrk> for a machine, anyway.....
[04 Jan/12:22] ! ^tracer is known as ^DirtyDog
[04 Jan/12:23] <[[Dana]]> I would like Zeus to answer me a question..
[04 Jan/12:23] <CJ^> zeus cant
[04 Jan/12:23] <CJ^> we can
[04 Jan/12:23] <[[Dana]]> why zeus cant?
[04 Jan/12:23] <CJ^> zeus is a bot...
[04 Jan/12:24] <Zeus> I'm a what?
[04 Jan/12:24] <CJ^> heh
[04 Jan/12:24] ! ^DirtyDog is known as ^tracer
[04 Jan/12:24] <[[Dana]]> can you tell me your nationality?
[04 Jan/12:25] <Zeus> Martian
[04 Jan/12:25] <CJ^> you said Venutian last night...
[04 Jan/12:25] <[[Dana]]> oh, come on!
[04 Jan/12:25] <Zeus> I am not real.  I have no nationality!
[04 Jan/12:26] ! ^KiwiDude is known as KD-Away
[04 Jan/12:27] <[[Dana]]> the point is  I met a "Zeus" on the web some days ago..
[04 Jan/12:27] <Azmodan> not this one you didn't ;-)
[04 Jan/12:27] <[[Dana]]> and I want to know if that Zeus is you...
[04 Jan/12:27] <wezwrk> we keep a short leash on our botz
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[04 Jan/12:28] <wezwrk> theres one now...
[04 Jan/12:28] @ mode #win98 [+v Mandy] by Zeus!pegasys@tigerrose.grateful.org
[04 Jan/12:28] <[[Dana]]> that´s the reason I ask for your nationality
[04 Jan/12:29] <Azmodan> zeus is a bot.  A bot is not a human
[04 Jan/12:29] <Azmodan> for example
[04 Jan/12:29] <Azmodan> `kick [[Dana]] I am a bot.  I do commands for people only
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[04 Jan/12:29] <Axis_God> wow
[04 Jan/12:30] <Axis_God> hello?
[04 Jan/12:30] <Azmodan> hi
[04 Jan/12:30] <CJ^> yes?
[04 Jan/12:30] <[[Dana]]> hi
[04 Jan/12:30] <Axis_God> i have a question about NT. do any of you know anything about it?
[04 Jan/12:31] + Azmodan looks at the channel
[04 Jan/12:31] <Axis_God> the people in the NT channel wont talk
[04 Jan/12:31] <Azmodan> hmmm #win98
[04 Jan/12:31] <CJ^> www.ntfaq.com
[04 Jan/12:31] <[[Dana]]> can you finish your explanation, please?
[04 Jan/12:31] <Axis_God> ya think it would tell me how to make the boot disks i need to install NT
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[04 Jan/12:31] <Azmodan> Dana, there is no explanation.  Zeus is not real.
[04 Jan/12:31] <CJ^> Dana  its a bot.. its controlled by the OPs of the channel
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[04 Jan/12:32] <devilDigg> az and cj whats up?? what did zeus do?
[04 Jan/12:32] <Azmodan> zeus did nothing
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[04 Jan/12:33] <devilDigg> oh..
[04 Jan/12:33] <Azmodan> Dana thinks zeus is a human
[04 Jan/12:33] <devilDigg> oh.. 
[04 Jan/12:33] <[[Dana]]> ok, thank you for your help
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[04 Jan/12:35] <cdk17> will somoene send me mfc40.dll
[04 Jan/12:35] <Azmodan> cdk17, read the topic.  No Files!
[04 Jan/12:35] <Azmodan> get yer files at www.winfiles.com
[04 Jan/12:35] <cdk17> thats stupid
[04 Jan/12:35] <CJ^> sfc
[04 Jan/12:35] <CJ^> no
[04 Jan/12:35] <CJ^> you have the files
[04 Jan/12:35] <CJ^> use sfc
[04 Jan/12:36] <CJ^> extract em from your win98 cd
[04 Jan/12:36] <Azmodan> its illegal for us to send you microsoft files
[04 Jan/12:36] <cdk17> hahaah
[04 Jan/12:36] <cdk17> yall are a bunch of morons
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[04 Jan/12:36] <CJ^> `insult cdk17
[04 Jan/12:36] <Azmodan> at least we're law abiding morons
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[04 Jan/12:42] <AnyOne> IE 5.0 has almost killed my system
[04 Jan/12:42] <devilDigg> how?
[04 Jan/12:42] <devilDigg> you must have a corrupt version.. 
[04 Jan/12:42] <devilDigg> redownload it
[04 Jan/12:42] <AnyOne> what are the min system requ's for IE 5.0
[04 Jan/12:42] <CJ^> do the repair install
[04 Jan/12:43] <AnyOne> since installing it everything takes so long to download
[04 Jan/12:43] <CJ^> did you do the IE 5.5 beta?
[04 Jan/12:43] <AnyOne> no I got it off the windows update page
[04 Jan/12:44] <CJ^> IE 5 shoudl nto affect your download.
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[04 Jan/12:44] <AnyOne> what are the min system requ's for IE 5.0
[04 Jan/12:44] <CJ^> well im looking that up........
[04 Jan/12:44] <AnyOne> ta
[04 Jan/12:45] <CJ^> Windows 95/98/NT 4.0 with Service Pack 3, 25MB disk space (for base installation of browser only) 
[04 Jan/12:45] <AnyOne> service pack 3 ?????
[04 Jan/12:46] <CJ^> thats for NT
[04 Jan/12:46] <wezwrk> cj, thanks for the help........
[04 Jan/12:46] <CJ^> np wez...
[04 Jan/12:46] <CJ^> NT 4.0 with Service Pack 3
[04 Jan/12:46] <AnyOne> so if win 98 runs fine then so should ie 5?
[04 Jan/12:46] <CJ^> as long as you can install win95/98  your fine..
[04 Jan/12:46] <CJ^> yes
[04 Jan/12:47] <CJ^> i run IE5  but im on win98 SE
[04 Jan/12:47] <CJ^> IE5 is part of SE
[04 Jan/12:47] ! AnGe^iLAh is known as AngieBoos
[04 Jan/12:48] <AnyOne> well I reinstalled win98 on my dx4 100 computer with 36 meg ram and all was sweet, well as sweet as can be expected on a 486 :-), but as soon as I put the typical ie 5 on she starts crawling along like a snail
[04 Jan/12:49] <CJ^> well.. thats a 486 for ya...
[04 Jan/12:49] <CJ^> min reeq for the OS doesnt mean the system will run as fast as it can...
[04 Jan/12:49] <AnyOne> so what component of the ie 5 suite would cause the problem?
[04 Jan/12:49] <CJ^> the faster the system.. the better off you are in reality
[04 Jan/12:50] <CJ^> well IE intergrates itself into the OS...
[04 Jan/12:50] ! AngieBoos is known as AngieAFK
[04 Jan/12:50] <CJ^> so.. it may have an affect on the system speed..
[04 Jan/12:50] <CJ^> dont run active desktop for one...
[04 Jan/12:51] <CJ^> that helps..
[04 Jan/12:51] <CJ^> shut down anything runing in the backgroud as well..
[04 Jan/12:51] <AnyOne> in the near future I hope to upgrade to a Pentium, but in the meantime would I be better off to dump win 98 and go back to win95 or dump ie 5?
[04 Jan/12:51] <CJ^> ICQ,AIM  whatever
[04 Jan/12:52] <CJ^> thats up to you really..
[04 Jan/12:52] <CJ^> i found 98 on a 486 t be fine..
[04 Jan/12:52] <CJ^> upgrades from ie4-5 are bad though
[04 Jan/12:52] <CJ^> lot of ppl seem to have trouble with em...
[04 Jan/12:53] <AnyOne> what is em?
[04 Jan/12:53] <CJ^> em.. them..
[04 Jan/12:53] <CJ^> the IE upgrades..
[04 Jan/12:53] <AnyOne> ah
[04 Jan/12:53] <AnyOne> yes well I have certainly isolated ie5 as the culprit
[04 Jan/12:54] <AnyOne> how do you turn off active desktop?
[04 Jan/12:54] <CJ^> right click on the desktop
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[04 Jan/12:54] <CJ^> active desktop.
[04 Jan/12:54] <AnyOne> k
[04 Jan/12:54] <AnyOne> brb
[04 Jan/12:54] <CJ^> uncheck view as web page
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[04 Jan/13:04] <pyrokiwi> im back :)
[04 Jan/13:04] <Avi_Mcse> cool
[04 Jan/13:04] <pyrokiwi> :)
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[04 Jan/13:04] <Avi_Mcse> what's the best way to change video cards in your Pc ?
[04 Jan/13:04] @ mode #win98 [+v lekkeband] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[04 Jan/13:05] <CJ^> MCSE?
[04 Jan/13:05] <Avi_Mcse> should I just plug in the new card with the old drivers loaded?
[04 Jan/13:05] < SignOff: lekkeband!niks@vp245-86.worldonline.nl (weg is weg)
[04 Jan/13:05] <CJ^> remove the old one...
[04 Jan/13:05] <Avi_Mcse> Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer
[04 Jan/13:05] <CJ^> install the new
[04 Jan/13:05] <CJ^> i know what MCSE means...
[04 Jan/13:05] <CJ^> thats why i wondering...
[04 Jan/13:05] <Avi_Mcse> I'm not an MCSE yet though
[04 Jan/13:05] <pyrokiwi> 4power down install new card load new drivers is wat i would do probably
[04 Jan/13:06] <CJ^> if yer an MCSE...
[04 Jan/13:06] <CJ^> ahhh
[04 Jan/13:06] <Avi_Mcse> ahh ok... hehehe
[04 Jan/13:06] <pyrokiwi> grrr this annoyes me
[04 Jan/13:06] <pyrokiwi> out phone system is not working hmmm
[04 Jan/13:06] <Avi_Mcse> hehehe yea IF I was, I wouldn't be askin'!!!  heheh
[04 Jan/13:06] <Avi_Mcse> ok thanks
[04 Jan/13:06] <CJ^> exactly...
[04 Jan/13:07] <CJ^> um..
[04 Jan/13:07] <CJ^> BUT
[04 Jan/13:07] <CJ^> to wanr ya
[04 Jan/13:07] <CJ^> that advice only holds tru for win9x
[04 Jan/13:07] <CJ^> not NT
[04 Jan/13:09] <Avi_Mcse> yup
[04 Jan/13:10] <Avi_Mcse> in NT you would go into VGA mode and do it.... it loads 640x480 and like 8 colors (just like safe mode)
[04 Jan/13:10] <CJ^> well it is safe mode actually...
[04 Jan/13:10] <CJ^> but win2k does it a bit better...
[04 Jan/13:10] <Avi_Mcse> how so ?
[04 Jan/13:11] <CJ^> cause win2k has all lot of safe modes...
[04 Jan/13:11] <CJ^> just like 98
[04 Jan/13:11] <CJ^> safe mode with networking..
[04 Jan/13:11] <CJ^> yadda yadda
[04 Jan/13:11] <pyrokiwi> sade dos mode
[04 Jan/13:12] <pyrokiwi> any hmm
[04 Jan/13:14] <devilDigg> bbl
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[04 Jan/13:32] <Deth|afk> Anyone able to help me with a rather basic somewhat vauge win98se networking question?
[04 Jan/13:32] <Big`Ed> like?
[04 Jan/13:32] <Big`Ed> `say
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[04 Jan/13:32] <Deth|afk> basically, the file transfew between my machines is hellishly slow
[04 Jan/13:32] <Deth|afk> I dont know why
[04 Jan/13:33] <Deth|afk> but its a 10mbit/sec network
[04 Jan/13:33] <Deth|afk> basic 10base2
[04 Jan/13:33] <Big`Ed> well - what protocol are you running?
[04 Jan/13:33] <Deth|afk> and its gotten rather slow all of a sudden
[04 Jan/13:33] <Azmodan> 10base2 is slow
[04 Jan/13:33] <Deth|afk> ie. a 4meg mp3 takes about 5mins to transfer
[04 Jan/13:33] <Deth|afk> um
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[04 Jan/13:33] [Deth|afk> Azmodan: yeh not this slow though
[04 Jan/13:34] <Big`Ed> major slowdown is indicative of major packet loss
[04 Jan/13:34] <Azmodan> bad cable, bad nic, maxing out the collisions I'd say
[04 Jan/13:34] <Big`Ed> on 10base2 - your could have a cable/terminator problem
[04 Jan/13:34] <Azmodan> 75ohm terminator on 50ohm calbe
[04 Jan/13:34] <Azmodan> could be anything
[04 Jan/13:34] <Big`Ed> if your running to many protocols, you can loose extra too
[04 Jan/13:35] <Deth|afk> I'm running IPX/SPX, NetBEUI, NETBIOS and TCP/IP
[04 Jan/13:36] <Deth|afk> Does running inet sharing over the network slow it down?
[04 Jan/13:36] <Big`Ed> why are you running 4 protocols?
[04 Jan/13:36] <Deth|afk> Like trying to share inet and transfer files over lan at the same time
[04 Jan/13:36] <Azmodan> deth, are you connecting to novell networks>
[04 Jan/13:36] <Deth|afk> well
[04 Jan/13:36] <Big`Ed> if your network's primary function is internet, just use TCP/IP
[04 Jan/13:36] <Deth|afk> no?
[04 Jan/13:36] <Big`Ed> you can loose all the others then
[04 Jan/13:36] <Deth|afk> all of them?
[04 Jan/13:37] <Big`Ed> except tcp/ip
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[04 Jan/13:37] <Big`Ed> provided you have that protocol configured
[04 Jan/13:37] <Deth|afk> weird thing is, it was fine untill i tried it with a new machine, 2 others of mine are fine, but the 3rd one is the machine its very slow with
[04 Jan/13:37] <Azmodan> but note if you only have tcp/ip then you'll need to find some way to transfer data between pc's
[04 Jan/13:37] <Big`Ed> is the third one last on the chain?
[04 Jan/13:37] <Azmodan> e.g. mp3's
[04 Jan/13:38] <Deth|afk> Big`Ed: yeah, its last
[04 Jan/13:38] * Big`Ed uses tcp/ip only - and works fine for intramachine
[04 Jan/13:38] <Big`Ed> Deth|afk - sounds like your last link went bad
[04 Jan/13:38] <Deth|afk> ?
[04 Jan/13:38] <Big`Ed> you can troublshoot by moving the PC to postion 2 and seeing if it gets faster
[04 Jan/13:39] <Big`Ed> Deth|afk - if this problem JUST started
[04 Jan/13:40] <Big`Ed> and is on the last leg
[04 Jan/13:40] <Big`Ed> i suspect a connection, or a termination went bad on the last run
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[04 Jan/13:40] <Lawson> HI all, can someone tell me how to turn 'scripting' off on my computer?
[04 Jan/13:41] <Deth|afk> Big`Ed: what do ya mean by that exactly
[04 Jan/13:41] <Big`Ed> scripting as in?
[04 Jan/13:41] <Big`Ed> Deth|afk - you are using coax right?
[04 Jan/13:41] <Deth|afk> Big`Ed: yep
[04 Jan/13:41] <Big`Ed> a connects to b - b connects to c
[04 Jan/13:41] <Big`Ed> and c has the terminator
[04 Jan/13:41] <Deth|afk> yes
[04 Jan/13:41] <Lawson> Big 'Ed: as in vbs scripting, i think. 
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[04 Jan/13:42] <Big`Ed> don't understand Lawson
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[04 Jan/13:42] <Big`Ed> Deth|afk - if a / b - works good
[04 Jan/13:42] <NsAnEoNe> Heya Big Ed
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[04 Jan/13:42] <Big`Ed> and c used to work good
[04 Jan/13:42] <^16volt> hello
[04 Jan/13:42] <Big`Ed> then prob is in wires between b and c
[04 Jan/13:42] <Big`Ed> hi
[04 Jan/13:42] <Deth|afk> well
[04 Jan/13:42] <Lawson> Big 'Ed: It has to do with protecting ones self against viruses that utilize scripting. I think it is Visual Basic Scripting.
[04 Jan/13:42] <j3ss1> hi
[04 Jan/13:42] <Deth|afk> my machine in position c was replaced by my friends
[04 Jan/13:43] <Deth|afk> MY computer normally in pos. c is fine.
[04 Jan/13:43] <Big`Ed> and it is ONLY that pc that has never been fast?
[04 Jan/13:43] <Deth|afk> but my friends machine in pos. c is hell slow.
[04 Jan/13:43] <Deth|afk> its only just been introduced
[04 Jan/13:43] <Deth|afk> first time
[04 Jan/13:43] <NsAnEoNe> Yo Big Ed.....Got the computer working great now...and now remember why I used to like gaming so much
[04 Jan/13:43] <Big`Ed> does C work fast in B pos?
[04 Jan/13:43] <Big`Ed> great NsAnEoNe
[04 Jan/13:43] <Deth|afk> havet tried
[04 Jan/13:43] <Deth|afk> but
[04 Jan/13:43] <Deth|afk> i'm thinking
[04 Jan/13:43] <Deth|afk> its maybe NIC or computer prob?
[04 Jan/13:44] <Deth|afk> seeing my machine which is usually in pos c is fine
[04 Jan/13:44] <NsAnEoNe> I think IM going to end up being a Quake 3 junkie
[04 Jan/13:44] <Deth|afk> and its the new machine in pos c thats slow
[04 Jan/13:44] <Big`Ed> hehe - once hooked, your there
[04 Jan/13:44] <NsAnEoNe> yeah...no doubt...I dont think I will ever be able to go back to work
[04 Jan/13:44] <NsAnEoNe> eheh
[04 Jan/13:45] <Big`Ed> Deth|afk - prob could have occured on the swap - you need to troubleshoot - by switching back, and checking all the connections
[04 Jan/13:45] <Big`Ed> haha
[04 Jan/13:45] <Deth|afk> hmm
[04 Jan/13:45] <Deth|afk> well
[04 Jan/13:45] <Deth|afk> not worth it
[04 Jan/13:45] <Big`Ed> NOT?
[04 Jan/13:45] <Deth|afk> seeing the machine will be gone soon anyway
[04 Jan/13:45] <Big`Ed> ok
[04 Jan/13:45] <Deth|afk> just frustrating at the moment
[04 Jan/13:46] <Big`Ed> it could be as simple as re-twisting the connection on one coax
[04 Jan/13:46] <Deth|afk> did that
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[04 Jan/13:54] <Deth|afk> back :P
[04 Jan/13:54] <Lawson> If I have a Win98SE client on a NetWare network and the clients refuse to shut down, is there a simple fix for that?
[04 Jan/13:55] <Big`Ed> did it just start?
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[04 Jan/13:55] <Big`Ed> or is this your only SE client?
[04 Jan/13:55] <Lawson> It didn't happen until we installed SE. First edition does fine.
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[04 Jan/13:56] <Big`Ed> did you upgrade to SE - or install clean?
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[04 Jan/13:56] <Big`Ed> also - did you apply all the win98 updates ?
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[04 Jan/13:56] <Lawson> Microsoft blames hardware and published a six page trouble shooting guide. I is difficult to make time to sit and go through six pages of their "information".
[04 Jan/13:57] <Lawson> upgrade.
[04 Jan/13:57] <Lawson> I take that back....
[04 Jan/13:57] <Lawson> We bought new laptops with Win98 OEM.
[04 Jan/13:57] <Lawson> We applied an update from MS that supposedly address the issue but no joy.
[04 Jan/13:58] <Lawson> The end users tell me that when they take their laptops home they shut down just fine. At that point, they are not using the network.
[04 Jan/13:58] <Deth|afk> Can someone tell me what 'NetBIOS Support for IPX/SPX Compatible Protocol' Actually does? and is used for?
[04 Jan/13:59] <Lawson> just wondered if there was some 'secret' out there to resolve the problem.
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[04 Jan/14:01] <Big`Ed> hi
[04 Jan/14:01] <reebok> hey
[04 Jan/14:02] <Azmodan> hi ree
[04 Jan/14:02] <Deth|afk> Someone?
[04 Jan/14:02] <Lawson> wb big ed
[04 Jan/14:02] <Big`Ed> Deth|afk - what?
[04 Jan/14:02] <reebok> hey az
[04 Jan/14:02] <Big`Ed> thx
[04 Jan/14:02] <Deth|afk> Can someone tell me what 'NetBIOS Support for IPX/SPX Compatible Protocol' Actually does? and is used for?
[04 Jan/14:02] <Deth|afk> Coz its added in the protocol list, but i didnt put it there, it seemed to go there auto
[04 Jan/14:02] <Big`Ed> Deth|afk - runs bios over ipx
[04 Jan/14:02] <Big`Ed> again - you only need tcp/ip
[04 Jan/14:02] <Big`Ed> www.helmig.com
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[04 Jan/14:03] <Deth|afk> if i have just tcp/ip then will i be able to transfer files over the lan?
[04 Jan/14:03] <Azmodan> Deth, yes
[04 Jan/14:03] <Big`Ed> sure
[04 Jan/14:03] <pyrokiwi> yep
[04 Jan/14:03] <Deth|afk> so..umm
[04 Jan/14:03] <pyrokiwi> wat?
[04 Jan/14:03] <Deth|afk> what does IPX/SPX do?
[04 Jan/14:04] <pyrokiwi> older network protocal
[04 Jan/14:04] <Lawson> IPX is NetWare protocol.
[04 Jan/14:04] <pyrokiwi> used 4 some older games
[04 Jan/14:05] <Deth|afk> and NetBEUI?
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[04 Jan/14:05] <pyrokiwi> a nother protocol
[04 Jan/14:05] <Deth|afk> whats it for tho
[04 Jan/14:05] <walkndude> evening #win98
[04 Jan/14:05] <pyrokiwi> some ppl use it 4 sharing files cause they think it is more secure then tcp/ip
[04 Jan/14:06] <Azmodan> evening walkndude 
[04 Jan/14:06] <Lawson> NetBEUI=NetBIOS Extended User Interface.
[04 Jan/14:06] <pyrokiwi> hiya walkndude
[04 Jan/14:06] <Deth|afk> But it does the same thing as tcp/ip
[04 Jan/14:07] <Lawson> NetBEUI is not routeable, tcp/ip is.
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[04 Jan/14:19] <walkndude> wb Azmodan
[04 Jan/14:19] <Azmodan> thx
[04 Jan/14:19] <pyrokiwi> hey az which cdrom should i get
[04 Jan/14:20] <pyrokiwi> hmmm ok so prices are (all in us appx) $55-40speed $65-48speed ok guys tell me which one should i get?
[04 Jan/14:20] <pyrokiwi> walkndude wat do ya reckon?
[04 Jan/14:20] <CJ^> anythign better than what you have... and you can afford
[04 Jan/14:20] <pyrokiwi> lol i can afford both but which 1?
[04 Jan/14:20] <CJ^> get the best of what you can afford...
[04 Jan/14:20] <CJ^> thats always the general rule..
[04 Jan/14:20] <pyrokiwi> other thing i want is ps/2 that will only cost me bout 10bucks though
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[04 Jan/14:21] <CJ^> what does coem into play is who makes the drive...
[04 Jan/14:21] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm but thing is is it better to save money
[04 Jan/14:21] <pyrokiwi> blow that ill get the 40speed i think
[04 Jan/14:21] <CJ^> 24x is plenty...
[04 Jan/14:21] <CJ^> 40 x is plenty
[04 Jan/14:21] <CJ^> make a plan of everythign you want to get..
[04 Jan/14:21] <pyrokiwi> it saves me money and the shops closer
[04 Jan/14:21] <CJ^> and go buy what you can afford to buy
[04 Jan/14:21] <pyrokiwi> a plan!
[04 Jan/14:22] <pyrokiwi> but by the time i hav engough money it will hav changed
[04 Jan/14:22] <pyrokiwi> so i may get a moniter instead
[04 Jan/14:22] <pyrokiwi> secondhand
[04 Jan/14:23] <pyrokiwi> Cyberdrive 48X Max. ATAPI CD-ROM Drive is the 48speed
[04 Jan/14:23] <CJ^> AVOID
[04 Jan/14:23] <CJ^> Cuber and USdrives
[04 Jan/14:23] <CJ^> er Cyber
[04 Jan/14:23] <CJ^> avoid them all
[04 Jan/14:23] <pyrokiwi> oh that settles it then :)
[04 Jan/14:23] <Big`Ed> wb walkndude
[04 Jan/14:23] <pyrokiwi> y avoid it?
[04 Jan/14:23] <CJ^> worst drives out there..
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[04 Jan/14:24] <pyrokiwi> hmmm y so bad?
[04 Jan/14:24] <CJ^> cause they are..
[04 Jan/14:24] <pyrokiwi> i wont get then just wondering y
[04 Jan/14:24] <CJ^> they break far too often.
[04 Jan/14:24] <pyrokiwi> oh i see
[04 Jan/14:24] <pyrokiwi> :)
[04 Jan/14:24] <CJ^> many of them are not found by standard cdrom drivers  << aka win98 boot disk
[04 Jan/14:24] <pyrokiwi> lol
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[04 Jan/14:24] <pyrokiwi> i WILL not get
[04 Jan/14:24] <CJ^> Linux doesnt see most of them...
[04 Jan/14:25] <pyrokiwi> i hav that problem with 4x ohhh i want one that linux gets
[04 Jan/14:25] <CJ^> and.. they arent stocked in the seattle area for a good reason..
[04 Jan/14:25] <pyrokiwi> ok i getya :)
[04 Jan/14:25] <CJ^> high RMA
[04 Jan/14:25] <pyrokiwi> rma?
[04 Jan/14:25] <CJ^> retuned merchandise
[04 Jan/14:25] <pyrokiwi> ahha
[04 Jan/14:25] <CJ^> high retunr rate
[04 Jan/14:25] <Azmodan> Returned Materials Authorization
[04 Jan/14:25] <pyrokiwi> yeh :)
[04 Jan/14:26] <CJ^> my asus 40 x ran $45 US
[04 Jan/14:26] <pyrokiwi> 90kiwi
[04 Jan/14:26] <pyrokiwi> nah u cant get prices like that here
[04 Jan/14:26] <Big`Ed> CJ^ - how goes the new year and the HUNT?
[04 Jan/14:28] <CJ^> still hunting
[04 Jan/14:28] <CJ^> pyro... another cheap drive.. but still good...
[04 Jan/14:28] <Big`Ed> i forgot to surf MY web today
[04 Jan/14:28] <CJ^> Mitsumi...<<<  basic indutry standard
[04 Jan/14:28] <CJ^> er industry
[04 Jan/14:29] <pyrokiwi> yeh i just havnt found any prices like that here
[04 Jan/14:29] <CJ^> odd....
[04 Jan/14:29] <CJ^> ya dont have any thing in the newspaper  or a local newsgroup?
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[04 Jan/14:30] <mrtoons>  i have a compaq 475 mhz just put aN acer 40x cd rom in it and it works great till it asks to restart the computer and after u install a program and then my computer locks any ideas
[04 Jan/14:31] <Big`Ed> it worked FINE until you installed the acer cd?
[04 Jan/14:31] <mrtoons> sure did 
[04 Jan/14:31] <pyrokiwi> then send the cdrom to me and ... nah j/k dont do that
[04 Jan/14:31] <Big`Ed> mrtoons - did you install DOS drivers?
[04 Jan/14:31] <pyrokiwi> did u install drivers?
[04 Jan/14:32] <mrtoons> win98 found it without me doing that
[04 Jan/14:32] <pyrokiwi> hmmm
[04 Jan/14:32] <mrtoons> but it gets worse lol
[04 Jan/14:32] <mrtoons> ok i only have one restore disk it 
[04 Jan/14:33] <mrtoons> has wi98 on it and
[04 Jan/14:33] <mrtoons> all my drivers
[04 Jan/14:33] <CJ^> is it suppoed to have more than one cd?
[04 Jan/14:33] <Big`Ed> - and that has what to do with this?
[04 Jan/14:33] <CJ^> if so.. call compaq and ask for the others..
[04 Jan/14:34] <mrtoons> i bought it new and thats
[04 Jan/14:34] <mrtoons> all that came with it if i rubn the restore it
[04 Jan/14:34] <CJ^> ok  but why are ya running the restore?
[04 Jan/14:34] <mrtoons> installs the old cd drivers
[04 Jan/14:34] <CJ^> ahh
[04 Jan/14:34] <CJ^> well then remove those cdrom drivers..
[04 Jan/14:35] <mrtoons> it all my modem and sound drivers on it too
[04 Jan/14:35] <CJ^> but those cdrom drivers are causing this issue...
[04 Jan/14:35] <CJ^> remove them...
[04 Jan/14:36] <mrtoons> where would i find them though 
[04 Jan/14:36] <CJ^> autoexec and config
[04 Jan/14:36] <CJ^> start>run>msconfig
[04 Jan/14:36] <CJ^> check there..
[04 Jan/14:36] <CJ^> but WHY did you run the restore?
[04 Jan/14:37] <mrtoons> because my sound driver was messed up too and i thought i'd start new lol
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[04 Jan/14:40] <Big`Ed> `say
[04 Jan/14:41] <Big`Ed> `op
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[04 Jan/14:41] @ mode #win98 [+o Amsterdam] by Big`Ed!BigEd@01-049.009.popsite.net
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[04 Jan/14:41] @ mode #win98 [+o Mandy] by Big`Ed!BigEd@01-049.009.popsite.net
[04 Jan/14:41] @ mode #win98 [+o Vulcan] by Big`Ed!BigEd@01-049.009.popsite.net
[04 Jan/14:41] @ mode #win98 [+v Azmodan] by Big`Ed!BigEd@01-049.009.popsite.net
[04 Jan/14:41] @ mode #win98 [+v pyrokiwi] by Big`Ed!BigEd@01-049.009.popsite.net
[04 Jan/14:41] @ mode #win98 [+v walkndude] by Big`Ed!BigEd@01-049.009.popsite.net
[04 Jan/14:41] <mrtoons> someone told me i had to use compaq cd rom drives in it and i've never heard of that
[04 Jan/14:42] <CJ^> you dont
[04 Jan/14:42] <mrtoons> my other one died lol
[04 Jan/14:42] <CJ^> if it died...
[04 Jan/14:43] <CJ^> get Compaq to replace it...
[04 Jan/14:43] <CJ^> you have a warranty for a reason
[04 Jan/14:43] <Big`Ed> under warrenty
[04 Jan/14:43] <mrtoons> i called them and
[04 Jan/14:43] <mrtoons> they say oh its windows its not the
[04 Jan/14:44] <Big`Ed> they said that about cd-rom #1?
[04 Jan/14:44] <mrtoons> drive and it installs so far and says
[04 Jan/14:44] <CJ^> then you make them replace it...
[04 Jan/14:44] <mrtoons> the drive is not functioning may need to be cleaned and
[04 Jan/14:45] <CJ^> well.. keep at em...
[04 Jan/14:45] <CJ^> keep calling 
[04 Jan/14:45] <CJ^> loggin complaints
[04 Jan/14:45] <CJ^> get call numbers..
[04 Jan/14:45] <CJ^> and names..
[04 Jan/14:45] <mrtoons> they said if u have any drives other then what came with your system in there they
[04 Jan/14:46] <mrtoons> will charge u $30.00 to take them out and
[04 Jan/14:46] <CJ^> but  this was before you had changed drives...
[04 Jan/14:46] <pyrokiwi> just dial there 0800 number repetitavely untill they do something
[04 Jan/14:46] <mrtoons> my tech susport is long distance and
[04 Jan/14:46] <CJ^> ?
[04 Jan/14:46] <CJ^> they have a 800# though....
[04 Jan/14:46] <mrtoons> all the lady did was say its windows
[04 Jan/14:47] <mrtoons> yes but
[04 Jan/14:47] <Big`Ed> for drive #1?
[04 Jan/14:47] <Big`Ed> before you replaced it?
[04 Jan/14:47] <mrtoons> when u dail that
[04 Jan/14:47] <CJ^> they love ppl like you..
[04 Jan/14:47] <CJ^> you gave up.. and they dont have to help you cause ya didnt stand up to em...
[04 Jan/14:47] <mrtoons> thay give a long distance number for my model
[04 Jan/14:47] <pyrokiwi> what u do is get the number in redial then press redial whenever they hangup on u
[04 Jan/14:48] <pyrokiwi> then dial there 800 number again
[04 Jan/14:48] <CJ^> naah... shoudl tell them.. "no sorry  you have an 800#  im using it.. its under warranty  fix it or i contact the state attorney generals office"
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[04 Jan/14:48] <LoveBug> can anyone help me please
[04 Jan/14:48] <mrtoons> never thought about that i was like lady widows was workin fine and
[04 Jan/14:48] <pyrokiwi> do that once then contact the state.....
[04 Jan/14:48] <Azmodan> LoveBug, we haven't seen Herbie either
[04 Jan/14:48] <mrtoons> she said boot it into safe mode
[04 Jan/14:49] <Big`Ed> tuneups in the rear LoveBug
[04 Jan/14:49] <Big`Ed> ok arman?
[04 Jan/14:49] <LoveBug> ha?
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[04 Jan/14:50] <LoveBug> english is not my national language
[04 Jan/14:50] <LoveBug> so i'm a little weak about that
[04 Jan/14:50] <Big`Ed> what is your problem with windows98 LoveBug
[04 Jan/14:50] <pyrokiwi> dont worry all u say is that if they dont fix u get them in trouble and give them bad publicity
[04 Jan/14:51] <LoveBug> i use Second edition
[04 Jan/14:51] <LoveBug> turkish
[04 Jan/14:51] <Big`Ed> ok
[04 Jan/14:51] <LoveBug> when i browse
[04 Jan/14:51] <mrtoons> i saw on the net they are getting sued by people for that reason
[04 Jan/14:51] <LoveBug> it says pan-europian text support must be downlaoded
[04 Jan/14:52] <LoveBug> i click download
[04 Jan/14:52] <LoveBug> but it says
[04 Jan/14:52] <LoveBug> download failed
[04 Jan/14:52] <LoveBug> go to win. update site
[04 Jan/14:52] <pyrokiwi> brb
[04 Jan/14:52] ! pyrokiwi is known as pyro|away
[04 Jan/14:52] <Big`Ed> LoveBug - did you try to get updates from windowsupdate site?
[04 Jan/14:53] <Big`Ed> see - topic - NO MSG
[04 Jan/14:53] ! LoveBug is known as Arman2000
[04 Jan/14:53] <Big`Ed> LoveBug - you will have to try the link that sent you to it again
[04 Jan/14:53] <Arman2000> ok
[04 Jan/14:53] <Arman2000> but i couldn't
[04 Jan/14:54] <Arman2000> my friend can do it
[04 Jan/14:54] <Big`Ed> it was probabally your NETWORK
[04 Jan/14:54] <Arman2000> but he has english windows
[04 Jan/14:54] <Big`Ed> connection
[04 Jan/14:54] <Arman2000> umm
[04 Jan/14:54] <Arman2000> i only use
[04 Jan/14:54] <Big`Ed> i don't know international windows that good
[04 Jan/14:54] <mrtoons> thanks for your help guys i'm gonna go try to fix this cd rom 
[04 Jan/14:54] <Arman2000> tcp-ip and software comp.
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[04 Jan/14:55] ! pyro|away is known as pyrokiwi
[04 Jan/14:55] <Big`Ed> don't know Arman2000 - my only advice is to try again
[04 Jan/14:56] <Arman2000> i even installed windows several times
[04 Jan/14:56] <Big`Ed> that would NOT be a good fix for this
[04 Jan/14:56] <CJ^> re-installign windows IS nto going to fix a failed download...
[04 Jan/14:56] <Arman2000> of course i know that
[04 Jan/14:57] <Arman2000> but...
[04 Jan/14:57] <Big`Ed> hold on - i may have a fix
[04 Jan/14:57] <Arman2000> sure :)
[04 Jan/15:02] <Big`Ed> sorry - can't find either
[04 Jan/15:03] <Arman2000> :(
[04 Jan/15:03] <Arman2000> so what were you thinking?
[04 Jan/15:03] ! Big`Ed is known as Ed`aWAy
[04 Jan/15:03] <pyrokiwi> yay?
[04 Jan/15:03] <pyrokiwi> :)
[04 Jan/15:03] <Ed`aWAy> be back in 20
[04 Jan/15:03] <pyrokiwi> he changed his nick 
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[04 Jan/15:03] <pyrokiwi> now if only Azmodan would do that
[04 Jan/15:10] <Azmodan> NO
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[04 Jan/15:10] <Azmodan> it gets stolen
[04 Jan/15:10] @ mode #win98 [+v osbourne] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[04 Jan/15:10] <pyrokiwi> wat the nick?
[04 Jan/15:10] <Azmodan> yeah
[04 Jan/15:10] <pyrokiwi> sad
[04 Jan/15:11] <pyrokiwi> no1 nicks my nick
[04 Jan/15:11] <Azmodan> yep
[04 Jan/15:11] <pyrokiwi> :)
[04 Jan/15:11] <pyrokiwi> hmmm y would ppl want Azmodan ?
[04 Jan/15:11] ! ree|shwr is known as reebok
[04 Jan/15:11] <reebok> ah nice long shower
[04 Jan/15:12] <pyrokiwi> LOL lucky guy
[04 Jan/15:12] <reebok> heh jk
[04 Jan/15:12] <pyrokiwi> looking up "bomb whitehous" on search engine
[04 Jan/15:13] <Azmodan> wb ree
[04 Jan/15:13] <pyrokiwi> know "bomb bill clinton" (i want the cia to ring me
[04 Jan/15:13] <Azmodan> I can arrange it pyro
[04 Jan/15:14] <pyrokiwi> lol i want to record it then tell every1 it would b fun :)
[04 Jan/15:14] ! fire^fish is known as Grem|in
[04 Jan/15:15] <pyrokiwi> looking up cia sux
[04 Jan/15:17] <reebok> are you being stupid or is this a regular thing?
[04 Jan/15:18] <pyrokiwi> no i am bored
[04 Jan/15:18] <pyrokiwi> so i am being stupid
[04 Jan/15:18] <reebok> ah
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[04 Jan/15:19] ! Ed`aWAy is known as Big`Ed
[04 Jan/15:19] <reebok> wb and hey
[04 Jan/15:19] <Big`Ed> hey hey hey
[04 Jan/15:19] <LosGuy> hi ree
[04 Jan/15:19] <pyrokiwi> heyhey Big`Ed while u were away i tried to get the cia to ring me but it did not work
[04 Jan/15:20] <Big`Ed> cia?
[04 Jan/15:20] <Big`Ed> the C I A ?
[04 Jan/15:20] <pyrokiwi> yeh
[04 Jan/15:20] <reebok> the CIA that's watching you right now?
[04 Jan/15:20] <reebok> hehe
[04 Jan/15:20] <pyrokiwi> i looked up all sorts of things in a searchengine 
[04 Jan/15:20] <pyrokiwi> yeh
[04 Jan/15:20] <pyrokiwi> see u dumb pppls i want u to ring me ok?
[04 Jan/15:21] + Azmodan wonders how the CIA became a win98 topic
[04 Jan/15:21] <reebok> we don't want to waste the money
[04 Jan/15:21] * Big`Ed can sick the NZ Kiwipatrol on you
[04 Jan/15:21] <reebok> heheh
[04 Jan/15:21] * LosGuy wonders who pyrokiwi is calling dumb
[04 Jan/15:22] <Azmodan> yeah, me too los
[04 Jan/15:22] ! HigH|Shop is known as HigHBabE
[04 Jan/15:22] * pyrokiwi didnt call any1 dumb apart from the cia
[04 Jan/15:22] <pyrokiwi> the C I A
[04 Jan/15:22] <Azmodan> Criminaly Insane Agency
[04 Jan/15:23] <pyrokiwi> the Clothed Idiots Association 
[04 Jan/15:24] <pyrokiwi> The CIA's first Project Bluebird
[04 Jan/15:24] <pyrokiwi>  test was on 12 subjects of people, mostly African-American, who the CIA
[04 Jan/15:24] <pyrokiwi>  claimed were "not too high a mentality." They were injected with 150
[04 Jan/15:24] <pyrokiwi>  micrograms of LSD and were then the subject of a mock interrogation.
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[04 Jan/15:24] <pyrokiwi> seeeee
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[04 Jan/15:26] <hfghd> back :)
[04 Jan/15:26] @ mode #win98 [+v hfghd] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[04 Jan/15:26] ! irisolve is known as plasma
[04 Jan/15:26] <hfghd> damn lagged server
[04 Jan/15:26] <reebok> yeah they suck
[04 Jan/15:26] <Amsterdam> no cussing
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[04 Jan/15:27] * hfghd apologises 4 cussing formally and to the CIA as well
[04 Jan/15:27] <reebok> :)
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[04 Jan/15:28] <LosGuy> CIA is shoto@shell.que.microcode.ca * You gotta kill me before i kill ya
[04 Jan/15:28] <LosGuy> CIA on @#gotoquebec @#revolution2000 @#france18+ @#eggyland @#raveweb @#cegep-tr @#danga @#musicsport @#TRC 
[04 Jan/15:28] <LosGuy> CIA using NewYork.NY.US.Undernet.Org [208.51.158.10] NYC Undernet Server - www.nac.net
[04 Jan/15:28] <LosGuy> cia End of /WHOIS list.
[04 Jan/15:28] <pyrokiwi> lol
[04 Jan/15:28] <pyrokiwi> i hav to get that nick sometime
[04 Jan/15:28] <reebok> that's a heck of a lot of ops
[04 Jan/15:29] <pyrokiwi> lol yeh
[04 Jan/15:29] <Azmodan> its prolly only a bot
[04 Jan/15:30] <pyrokiwi> not me :(
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[04 Jan/15:30] <LosGuy> as in too many for a person ree?
[04 Jan/15:30] <pyrokiwi> i hav a motto
[04 Jan/15:30] <reebok> well, it was a lot
[04 Jan/15:30] <|-ToM-|> im having problems w/ Partition Magic4, can any1 help me out?
[04 Jan/15:30] <Azmodan> FBI is in the same channels
[04 Jan/15:30] ! BooBoBear is known as Me|anie
[04 Jan/15:30] @ mode #win98 [+v |-ToM-|] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[04 Jan/15:31] <LosGuy> what is the problem |-ToM-|?
[04 Jan/15:31] <LosGuy> haha 
[04 Jan/15:31] <LosGuy> a give away
[04 Jan/15:31] <|-ToM-|> when i try to cre8 another partition it says: new partition can not be created, you may have already reached the limit of 4 primary partitions per disk
[04 Jan/15:31] <Azmodan> nsa is all on its lonesome
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[04 Jan/15:31] <pyrokiwi> ahha u must hav reached limit then
[04 Jan/15:31] <LosGuy> and what is the problem |-ToM-|?
[04 Jan/15:31] <|-ToM-|> i only have 1 partition
[04 Jan/15:32] @ mode #win98 [+v ohwhyme] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[04 Jan/15:32] <pyrokiwi> there are lessons to be learned from compotition fear is NOT one of them
[04 Jan/15:32] <reebok> ack my eyes
[04 Jan/15:32] <ohwhyme> fuckin windows 98
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[04 Jan/15:32] <LosGuy> `kick ohwhyme see ya 
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[04 Jan/15:32] <pyrokiwi> whos the dumbnut that is sending me sounds
[04 Jan/15:32] <reebok> whos the dumbnut using colors
[04 Jan/15:32] <pyrokiwi> lol sorry
[04 Jan/15:32] <pyrokiwi> i cut and pasted cause i like the motto
[04 Jan/15:33] <LosGuy> |-ToM-| what OS is on the partition you have?
[04 Jan/15:33] <|-ToM-|> win98
[04 Jan/15:33] <pyrokiwi> was it u who sent me sounds?
[04 Jan/15:33] <LosGuy> do you use a drive overlay?
[04 Jan/15:33] <pyrokiwi> reebok was it?
[04 Jan/15:33] <|-ToM-|> drive overlay?   dunno what is
[04 Jan/15:33] <reebok> uh no
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[04 Jan/15:34] <pyrokiwi> hmmm maybe it was icq but i dont think so
[04 Jan/15:34] <LosGuy> a program that tricks your bios into seeing a hard drive that is larger than in normally could see
[04 Jan/15:34] <CJ^> glasses fro your BIOS..
[04 Jan/15:34] <LosGuy> also do you have the 4.x pathch?
[04 Jan/15:35] <pyrokiwi>  WinErr: 103 Error buffer overflow: Too many errors encountered. Additional errors may not be displayed or recorded.
[04 Jan/15:35] <LosGuy> patch that is
[04 Jan/15:35] <pyrokiwi> oh well ppls i gtg cause i am bored of this   syas
[04 Jan/15:35] <|-ToM-|> dont think so, i got this 4.0 version from a friend
[04 Jan/15:35] <CJ^> oh  good answer...
[04 Jan/15:35] <CJ^> :P
[04 Jan/15:35] <LosGuy> wrong awnser see the topic 
[04 Jan/15:36] <|-ToM-|> huh?
[04 Jan/15:36] <CJ^> tom  did he give it to you to borrow?
[04 Jan/15:36] <CJ^> or to have permanent
[04 Jan/15:36] <|-ToM-|> no, he bought it for me
[04 Jan/15:36] <CJ^> ahhh
[04 Jan/15:36] <CJ^> ok..
[04 Jan/15:36] <pyrokiwi> WinErr: 625 Working Error: The system has been working perfectly for the past ten minutes. Please reboot.
[04 Jan/15:37] <CJ^> well...  then do as Los says  goto  powerquest.com  adn get the 4.x patch
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[04 Jan/15:38] <|-ToM-|> and that should fix it ?
[04 Jan/15:38] <CJ^> its a place to start
[04 Jan/15:38] <LosGuy> I am not sure
[04 Jan/15:38] <LosGuy> what does Fdisk say when you run it
[04 Jan/15:39] <|-ToM-|> dunno, lemme do it now
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[04 Jan/15:40] <|-ToM-|> it says, i got a hd bigger then 512mb do u want to enable large disk support
[04 Jan/15:40] <LosGuy> yes
[04 Jan/15:40] <LosGuy> say yes
[04 Jan/15:41] <LosGuy> you are not gonna do anything anyway
[04 Jan/15:41] <|-ToM-|> current fixed drives: 1
[04 Jan/15:41] <|-ToM-|> then i get 4options
[04 Jan/15:41] ! ChiwiGal is known as CHiWiOuT
[04 Jan/15:41] ! Grem|in is known as fire^fish
[04 Jan/15:42] <LosGuy> press 4
[04 Jan/15:43] <|-ToM-|> partition: c:1 / status: A / type: PRI DOS /  volume: win98 / mbytes: 12410 / system: FAT32 /  usage: 100%
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[04 Jan/15:44] <LosGuy> |-ToM-| how big is the HD?
[04 Jan/15:44] <|-ToM-|> 13gig
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[04 Jan/15:45] <nice-18> i was wondering if anyone would be able to send me thier copy of a win 98 recovery diskette..you know..the diskette that you put in so you can reinstall win 98 from your cd-rom drive?? i lost mine and i have to reinstall win 98 on my good computer
[04 Jan/15:45] <nice-18> ??? please!!!???
[04 Jan/15:45] <LosGuy> `kb nice-18 warned ya last night
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[04 Jan/15:46] <LosGuy> `op
[04 Jan/15:46] @ mode #win98 [+o LosGuy] by Amsterdam!pegasys@tigerrose.grateful.org
[04 Jan/15:46] @ mode #win98 [-b *!*mr.man@*.interactive.net] by LosGuy!~husky21@user-33qtim2.dialup.mindspring.com
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[04 Jan/15:46] <LosGuy> `down
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[04 Jan/15:46] <LosGuy> |
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[04 Jan/15:46] <Big`Ed> alt-f4 ?
[04 Jan/15:47] <Big`Ed> `say
[04 Jan/15:47] <LosGuy> |-ToM-| usage 100% ... that sounds like your problem
[04 Jan/15:47] <LosGuy> but I dont know
[04 Jan/15:47] <LosGuy> for sure
[04 Jan/15:47] <LosGuy> have you run scandisk on that drive?
[04 Jan/15:47] <|-ToM-|> yeap, no probs or bad clusters or anything like that
[04 Jan/15:48] <LosGuy> hmm odd
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[04 Jan/15:48] <LosGuy> have you searched powerquest.com for more info?
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[04 Jan/15:48] <jet350> grrrrr
[04 Jan/15:48] <|-ToM-|> cand find any patches for it. just a demo
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[04 Jan/15:48] <Edgar_NT> I have a PC network based on Win98
[04 Jan/15:49] <Big`Ed> yes
[04 Jan/15:49] <LosGuy> congratulations
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[04 Jan/15:49] <LosGuy> doh
[04 Jan/15:49] <|-ToM-|> nm, found it
[04 Jan/15:49] <LosGuy> he nick collided himself
[04 Jan/15:49] <Edgar_NT> I want to send messages from one Pc to other one
[04 Jan/15:49] <Big`Ed> your question Edgar_NT?
[04 Jan/15:49] <Azmodan> edgar, winpopup
[04 Jan/15:49] <Edgar_NT> What do I need to do?
[04 Jan/15:50] <jet350> ooops
[04 Jan/15:51] <Edgar_NT> I want to send messages from 1 pc to another one trouhg a network
[04 Jan/15:51] <Big`Ed> nice-18 - NO
[04 Jan/15:51] <Big`Ed> no files
[04 Jan/15:51] <Azmodan> Edgar_NT, use WINPOPUP
[04 Jan/15:51] <LosGuy> hehe the lagmonster has Big`Ed
[04 Jan/15:51] <BigEd> yea
[04 Jan/15:52] <Edgar_NT> Messages only
[04 Jan/15:52] <LosGuy> or better yet try winpop plus (err I think it is called epop now... wiredred.com I belive
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[04 Jan/15:52] <Edgar_NT> For example, to tell from 1 pc to another whats hapenning in one room if the other PC is in another room
[04 Jan/15:53] <LosGuy> Edgar_NT winpopup comes with win98
[04 Jan/15:53] <LosGuy> not the greatest program..but works
[04 Jan/15:53] <LosGuy> there are better alternatives
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[04 Jan/15:54] <|-ToM-|> Edgar_NT: why not use ICQ
[04 Jan/15:54] <LosGuy> he is lagged badly
[04 Jan/15:55] <jet350> los ping me please
[04 Jan/15:55] <LosGuy>  <<ÐêtóÑ8®>> Ping reply for jet350: 2 Sec
[04 Jan/15:55] <jet350> thank you
[04 Jan/15:55] <LosGuy> np\
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[04 Jan/15:56] <jet350> los is that deton8 a icr program?
[04 Jan/15:56] <BigEd> irc
[04 Jan/15:56] <BigEd> yes
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[04 Jan/15:58] <BoxerJoe> HELP!
[04 Jan/15:58] <BoxerJoe> argh
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[04 Jan/15:58] <BoxerJoe> this is a win 98 help channel right?
[04 Jan/15:58] <BigEd> sorry - no help in the ring
[04 Jan/15:58] <BigEd> yes
[04 Jan/15:58] <BoxerJoe> For some reason under My Computer it only shows that I have a 1.99gig hard drive when it is 8.4  
[04 Jan/15:58] <BigEd> how did you prepare the HD?
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[04 Jan/15:59] <BigEd> or do you have a D:, E: F: too
[04 Jan/15:59] <BigEd> each 1.99
[04 Jan/15:59] <BoxerJoe> It says I have used 360 megs and I have 1.6 gig left   
[04 Jan/15:59] <BoxerJoe> I dont know why it only thinks it has 1.99 gig   the settings are fine in BIOS
[04 Jan/15:59] <BoxerJoe> Anyone have any ideas?
[04 Jan/15:59] <BigEd> BoxerJoe - how did you prepare the HD?
[04 Jan/16:00] <BoxerJoe> ?
[04 Jan/16:00] <BigEd> your lagged
[04 Jan/16:00] <BigEd> `say
[04 Jan/16:01] <BoxerJoe> II only have one  
[04 Jan/16:01] <BoxerJoe> C:\
[04 Jan/16:01] <BoxerJoe> it was formatted this morning
[04 Jan/16:01] <BigEd> BoxerJoe - did you install the HD yourself?
[04 Jan/16:01] <BoxerJoe> it was always there
[04 Jan/16:01] <BoxerJoe> :o)
[04 Jan/16:02] <BigEd> BoxerJoe - how did you PARTITION it?
[04 Jan/16:02] <BoxerJoe> just formatted
[04 Jan/16:02] <BoxerJoe> then ran the Windows 98 CD Boot Disk
[04 Jan/16:02] <BigEd> a new 8gb hard drive must be partitioned before formating
[04 Jan/16:03] <BoxerJoe> it wasnt new
[04 Jan/16:03] <BoxerJoe> I had win 98 onm it b4
[04 Jan/16:03] <BoxerJoe> just ad probs
[04 Jan/16:03] <BoxerJoe> so I reformatted
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[04 Jan/16:03] <BigEd> i presume the drive partions are not set up right then
[04 Jan/16:03] <BigEd> need to look at it with fdisk
[04 Jan/16:03] <BigEd> and see
[04 Jan/16:03] <BigEd> `say
[04 Jan/16:04] <BoxerJoe> ok
[04 Jan/16:04] <BoxerJoe> can I run FDISK while I have windows up ?
[04 Jan/16:04] <BigEd> go to fdisk - and view
[04 Jan/16:04] <BigEd> yes - you can view
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[04 Jan/16:05] <BoxerJoe> I found something
[04 Jan/16:05] <BoxerJoe> it says this
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[04 Jan/16:05] <BoxerJoe> 2 partitions  
[04 Jan/16:05] <|-ToM-|> where did the guy that was helping me go ?
[04 Jan/16:05] <BigEd> BoxerJoe and the sizes?
[04 Jan/16:05] <Azmodan> Tom, its called a net split
[04 Jan/16:05] <BigEd> yes
[04 Jan/16:05] <Azmodan> Tom, he'll be back when the servers join together again
[04 Jan/16:06] <BoxerJoe> patition 1 is PRI DOS  C:\  2047 mhb   and 2  doesnt have a drive letter and it says 6009 mb
[04 Jan/16:06] <BoxerJoe> how can I use the 6009 mb
[04 Jan/16:06] <BigEd> BoxerJoe - i suggest starting again
[04 Jan/16:06] <BigEd> BoxerJoe - from win98 boot disk
[04 Jan/16:06] <Azmodan> boxerJoe, create logical partitions inside it
[04 Jan/16:06] <BigEd> BoxerJoe - run FDISK
[04 Jan/16:06] <BoxerJoe> how do I do that?
[04 Jan/16:06] <BigEd> BoxerJoe - delete what you have
[04 Jan/16:06] <BoxerJoe> I have fdisk up
[04 Jan/16:06] <BoxerJoe> I am not reformatting again today
[04 Jan/16:06] <BigEd> BoxerJoe - then reboot
[04 Jan/16:06] <BoxerJoe> have done it 5 times
[04 Jan/16:07] <BigEd> BoxerJoe - best time to do it - make 1 big drive
[04 Jan/16:07] <BoxerJoe> Whats the difference? 
[04 Jan/16:07] <BoxerJoe> will it slow things down?
[04 Jan/16:07] <BigEd> you will need to change from c: to D: for data/storage
[04 Jan/16:07] <BigEd> instead of all on c:
[04 Jan/16:08] <BigEd> (don't know why you did it 5 times - when 1 is all that is needed after a FDISK)
[04 Jan/16:08] <BigEd> but if you want, you can boot to dos, use fdisk, and setup the exter 4gb
[04 Jan/16:08] <BigEd> and then format them
[04 Jan/16:08] <BoxerJoe> I tried lnux earlier too
[04 Jan/16:08] <BigEd> then win98 will see them
[04 Jan/16:09] <BigEd> thats why your other space is gone then
[04 Jan/16:09] <BigEd> it took it
[04 Jan/16:10] <BoxerJoe> how do I get it back from the hog?
[04 Jan/16:10] <BoxerJoe> lol
[04 Jan/16:10] <BoxerJoe> I formatted since I installed it
[04 Jan/16:10] <BigEd> format only works with drive space windows sees
[04 Jan/16:10] <BigEd> windows don't see other OS's partitons
[04 Jan/16:10] <BigEd> so thats why you needed to FDISK all along
[04 Jan/16:10] <BoxerJoe> ok how do I make windows see that then?
[04 Jan/16:10] <BigEd> to re-partion it back to win98
[04 Jan/16:11] <BoxerJoe> so I reboot and?
[04 Jan/16:12] <BoxerJoe> goto dos prompt
[04 Jan/16:12] <BigEd> boot to win98 boot disk
[04 Jan/16:12] <BigEd> run fdisk
[04 Jan/16:12] <BigEd> delete all partition data
[04 Jan/16:12] <BoxerJoe> then FDISK
[04 Jan/16:12] <BigEd> reboot with disk
[04 Jan/16:12] <BigEd> then FDISK again
[04 Jan/16:12] <BigEd> create 1 - single - large partition
[04 Jan/16:12] <BigEd> reboot again with disk
[04 Jan/16:12] <BigEd> format c:
[04 Jan/16:12] <BigEd> run setup
[04 Jan/16:12] <BigEd> instant drive
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[04 Jan/16:13] <BigEd> `op
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[04 Jan/16:13] <Big`Ed> -op
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[04 Jan/16:16] <BoxerJoe> and then what do I do ?
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[04 Jan/16:17] <|-ToM-|> hey  Los`Guy
[04 Jan/16:17] <Big`Ed> [19:11] <BoxerJoe> goto dos prompt
[04 Jan/16:17] <Big`Ed> [19:11] <BigEd> boot to win98 boot disk
[04 Jan/16:17] <Big`Ed> [19:11] <BigEd> run fdisk
[04 Jan/16:17] <Big`Ed> [19:11] <BigEd> delete all partition data
[04 Jan/16:17] <Big`Ed> [19:11] <BoxerJoe> then FDISK
[04 Jan/16:17] <Big`Ed> [19:11] <BigEd> reboot with disk
[04 Jan/16:17] <Big`Ed> [19:11] <BigEd> then FDISK again
[04 Jan/16:17] <Big`Ed> [19:11] <BigEd> create 1 - single - large partition
[04 Jan/16:17] <Big`Ed> [19:12] <BigEd> reboot again with disk
[04 Jan/16:17] <Big`Ed> [19:12] <BigEd> format c:
[04 Jan/16:17] <|-ToM-|> that patch fixed one thing but now i get a diff error
[04 Jan/16:17] <Big`Ed> [19:12] <BigEd> run setup
[04 Jan/16:17] <Big`Ed> [19:12] <BigEd> instant drive
[04 Jan/16:18] <|-ToM-|> Los`Guy?
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[04 Jan/16:20] <Los`Guy> what |-ToM-|?
[04 Jan/16:21] <Los`Guy> woo hoo the splitt appears to be over
[04 Jan/16:21] <Los`Guy> well on the other side
[04 Jan/16:23] <|-ToM-|> that patch fixed one thing but now i get a diff error
[04 Jan/16:23] <|-ToM-|> "A new partition could not be created on drive 1. Changing the advanced setting may allow a new partition to be created"
[04 Jan/16:23] <Los`Guy> oh 
[04 Jan/16:23] <Los`Guy> I know this one
[04 Jan/16:24] <Los`Guy> partion magic has locked the drive
[04 Jan/16:24] <Los`Guy> you simply need to unlock it
[04 Jan/16:24] <|-ToM-|> k, how do i do that
[04 Jan/16:24] <Los`Guy> Tom you are gonna have to look
[04 Jan/16:24] <Los`Guy> I have not installed it for a long time
[04 Jan/16:24] <Los`Guy> I just use my floppies now days
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[04 Jan/16:25] <Los`Guy> and I dont remember exactly where it was
[04 Jan/16:25] <Los`Guy> but I have seen this before
[04 Jan/16:25] <Los`Guy> and it was very easy to fix
[04 Jan/16:25] <|-ToM-|> k, what am i looking for exactly ?
[04 Jan/16:25] <Los`Guy> Tom I cant be exact
[04 Jan/16:25] <Los`Guy> try your manual
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[04 Jan/16:26] <Los`Guy> or just look around
[04 Jan/16:26] <Los`Guy> it was very easy to fix though
[04 Jan/16:26] ! revfw is known as sickness
[04 Jan/16:26] <sickness> hello
[04 Jan/16:26] <sickness> i am having trouble with my win98 reinstalation
[04 Jan/16:26] <Big`Ed> like?
[04 Jan/16:26] <Los`Guy> just choosing an option in the menu did it
[04 Jan/16:26] <Los`Guy> whats the problem sickness
[04 Jan/16:27] <sickness> can anyone give me any assitance
[04 Jan/16:27] <Big`Ed> like?
[04 Jan/16:27] <sickness> ok  i formated c:
[04 Jan/16:27] <sickness> i have the bootdisk in 
[04 Jan/16:27] <Big`Ed> ok
[04 Jan/16:27] <sickness> i have the cd in and i can use the cd rom
[04 Jan/16:27] <Big`Ed> ok
[04 Jan/16:27] <BoxerJoe> what do I use in FDISK to delete the partition?
[04 Jan/16:28] <Big`Ed> BoxerJoe - remove
[04 Jan/16:28] <Azmodan> BoxerJoe, option 3.  Delete
[04 Jan/16:28] <Los`Guy> 2
[04 Jan/16:28] <sickness> but when i type setup  it says that i need windows 98
[04 Jan/16:28] <Azmodan> 3!
[04 Jan/16:28] <Azmodan> 2 is set active partition
[04 Jan/16:28] <Los`Guy> sickness what is the EXACT error message you get
[04 Jan/16:28] <sickness> my drivers for my cd rom is working
[04 Jan/16:29] <|-ToM-|> ya, too bad i never keep those  :o(
[04 Jan/16:29] <sickness> you cannot run this program without microsoft windows
[04 Jan/16:30] <Los`Guy> sickness what version of win98 do you have and is it OEM |?
[04 Jan/16:30] <sickness> na
[04 Jan/16:30] <sickness> you want me to go check
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[04 Jan/16:30] <sickness> i dont have these probs with the oems
[04 Jan/16:31] <Los`Guy> sickness you are installing how?
[04 Jan/16:31] <jet> ok what happened?
[04 Jan/16:31] <Los`Guy> on top of win98 or clean etc?
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[04 Jan/16:31] <BoxerJoe> ok
[04 Jan/16:31] <jet> where did muff go?
[04 Jan/16:32] <Azmodan> jet, he just came back
[04 Jan/16:32] <BoxerJoe> and when I am done should I convert the pc into fat32 ?
[04 Jan/16:32] <sickness>  i formated the hd and i have a boot disk from this computer and 
[04 Jan/16:32] <sickness> boxer its usually doen for you atomaticaly
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[04 Jan/16:33] <sickness> i have the win98 cd in the drive
[04 Jan/16:33] <Los`Guy> sickness did you change to teh cdrom drive before running setup.exe?
[04 Jan/16:34] <sickness> yea
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[04 Jan/16:35] <sickness>  but i would try it in all the drives
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[04 Jan/16:35] <sickness>  i would direct it to the cd rom by giving it E:\setup.exe
[04 Jan/16:35] <sickness> everytime it game me the same error
[04 Jan/16:36] <Los`Guy> sickness if you do dir in E: do you see the setup.exe program?
[04 Jan/16:36] <sickness> yes
[04 Jan/16:36] <Los`Guy> remember that win98 makes a ram drive on install
[04 Jan/16:36] <Los`Guy> that may change your drive letters
[04 Jan/16:36] <sickness> its really getting me poed
[04 Jan/16:36] <Los`Guy> temp
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[04 Jan/16:36] <sickness> yea it changed d: to e:
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[04 Jan/16:36] <Los`Guy> ok I think I have seen your problem on the KB before...
[04 Jan/16:37] <sickness> ok what should i do
[04 Jan/16:38] <Los`Guy> uh search the KB
[04 Jan/16:38] <sickness> kb
[04 Jan/16:38] <sickness> ?
[04 Jan/16:38] <Los`Guy> knowledge base
[04 Jan/16:38] <|-ToM-|> Los`Guy: so what should i do now ?
[04 Jan/16:39] <sickness> where is that at
[04 Jan/16:39] <|-ToM-|> i searched in the HELP files about inlocking and theres nothing about it
[04 Jan/16:40] <Big`Ed> course this is a non-standard setup - not using win98 fdisk?
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[04 Jan/16:41] <Los`Guy> sheez
[04 Jan/16:42] <Los`Guy> I am about to give up for tonight on the undernet
[04 Jan/16:42] <jet> hehehehe
[04 Jan/16:43] <jet> hey los seen muff try again?
[04 Jan/16:43] <Los`Guy> ?
[04 Jan/16:43] <Los`Guy> try again?
[04 Jan/16:43] <BoxerJoe> it says that I cant delete extendd dos partiitions and something about a logical drive   then I click delte primary dos partition and it says I cant due to the extended one  then I click on delete logical dos drives and it says none found ??  i want to reformat and get rid of all partitions
[04 Jan/16:43] <jet> to get back in
[04 Jan/16:43] <BoxerJoe> so i can use my 8.4 gig
[04 Jan/16:44] <Big`Ed> BoxerJoe - you must delete logicals before extended
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[04 Jan/16:44] <Los`Guy> BoxerJoe did you make these partitions with linux?
[04 Jan/16:44] <Big`Ed> BoxerJoe - how to use your 8.4 - you should have NEVER messed with that other OS
[04 Jan/16:44] <BoxerJoe> one was with  
[04 Jan/16:44] <BoxerJoe> but I formatted everything earlier
[04 Jan/16:44] <Los`Guy> use linux to remove it then
[04 Jan/16:44] <BoxerJoe> i installed linux earlier
[04 Jan/16:44] <Los`Guy> linux fdisk
[04 Jan/16:44] <Big`Ed> but you did NOT change partition info
[04 Jan/16:44] <BoxerJoe> and formatted everything to go  back to windows
[04 Jan/16:45] <Los`Guy> or partition magic
[04 Jan/16:45] <Big`Ed> that UNIX changed on you
[04 Jan/16:45] <Los`Guy> it works 
[04 Jan/16:45] <BoxerJoe> I dont have linux anymore
[04 Jan/16:45] <Big`Ed> Los`Guy - he lost 2/3's of his harddrive to unix
[04 Jan/16:45] <Big`Ed> Los`Guy - only gets a single 2 primary part now
[04 Jan/16:45] <BoxerJoe> Delete 3 ?
[04 Jan/16:45] <Big`Ed> yes
[04 Jan/16:46] <|-ToM-|> so how do i unlock it Los ? there isnt any help files on that
[04 Jan/16:46] <BoxerJoe> I only have 2 partitions
[04 Jan/16:46] <Los`Guy> |-ToM-| stop asking I told you I dont remember I just know it is there
[04 Jan/16:46] <Los`Guy> contact powerquest support for more help
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[04 Jan/16:47] <Big`Ed> BoxerJoe delete derives inside #2, then delete #2, then delete #1 part
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[04 Jan/16:47] <BoxerJoe> All I want to do is use all my hd hehe :o)
[04 Jan/16:47] <BoxerJoe> and the simplest way to do it
[04 Jan/16:47] <BoxerJoe> I want to know :o)
[04 Jan/16:49] <Big`Ed> i have told you 14 times
[04 Jan/16:49] <Jabbapop> what was that?
[04 Jan/16:49] <Jabbapop> was that a netsplit?
[04 Jan/16:49] <Big`Ed> easiest now is for you to take it to the shop and pay them $50 to do it for you
[04 Jan/16:50] <Big`Ed> still is Jabbapop
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[04 Jan/16:50] <Big`Ed> wb kiwi
[04 Jan/16:51] <jet> see that
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[04 Jan/16:51] <jet> where you on the other side muff???
[04 Jan/16:52] <Jabbapop> what was that?
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[04 Jan/16:53] <BoxerJoe> Azmodam:  what was that you were talking abotu deleting?
[04 Jan/16:53] <BoxerJoe> Los`Guy:  partition magic?  where can I get that from?
[04 Jan/16:53] <Los`Guy> software store
[04 Jan/16:53] <Los`Guy> they have a demo
[04 Jan/16:54] <Los`Guy> but not sure what it will do BoxerJoe
[04 Jan/16:54] * Big`Ed thinks if BoxerJoe can't do FDISK - he should not be doing it at all
[04 Jan/16:54] <BoxerJoe> is there any other way that I can get rid of it without Linux or Partition Magic?
[04 Jan/16:55] <Big`Ed> (45 shell )
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[04 Jan/16:56] <jet> must be just the name
[04 Jan/16:57] <Los`Guy> hard to tel jet ..things are sooo laggy
[04 Jan/16:57] <Big`Ed> `say
[04 Jan/16:58] <BoxerJoe> Los`Guy:  is there any opther options to delete that partition without Linux on my system ?
[04 Jan/16:58] <jet> thanks los
[04 Jan/16:58] <jet> I see my jet350 made it back-hehehe
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[04 Jan/16:59] <Los`Guy> BoxerJoe if fdisk wont do it
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[04 Jan/17:01] <BoxerJoe> fdisk wont delete it
[04 Jan/17:02] <BoxerJoe> <BoxerJoe> it says that I cant delete extendd dos partiitions and something about a logical drive   then I click delte primary dos partition and it says I cant due to the extended one  then I click on delete logical dos drives and it says none found ??  i want to reformat and get rid of all partitions
[04 Jan/17:02] <BoxerJoe> <BoxerJoe> so i can use my 8.4 gig
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[04 Jan/17:02] <BoxerJoe> grr  I am so sorry :o(
[04 Jan/17:02] <BoxerJoe> this is jsut really driving me insance  it has 6 gigs of my hd
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[04 Jan/17:22] <militanta> My mainboard says ..the system does not support memory error correction ..if an error  appear the system will stop ..How can I fix that  ?
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[04 Jan/17:26] <CJbat> militanta... um.. well thats not actually a win98 issue...
[04 Jan/17:26] <CJbat> but  when did it start?
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[04 Jan/17:29] <militanta> it doesn't start but I use a program C and that program told m this ..and my comp stop responding once a day almost 
[04 Jan/17:29] <militanta> Tha program is SiSoft Sandra 99
[04 Jan/17:30] <CJbat> `op
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[04 Jan/17:30] <CJbat> ok.. BUT  when did it first start doing this?  has it always done this??
[04 Jan/17:31] <militanta> yes
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[04 Jan/17:36] <NeoGamlin> Honestly.
[04 Jan/17:36] <NeoGamlin> I can't.
[04 Jan/17:36] <NeoGamlin> You've got to see it to believe it.
[04 Jan/17:36] <CJbat> nope
[04 Jan/17:36] <CJbat> no files
[04 Jan/17:36] <NeoGamlin> nope?
[04 Jan/17:36] <NeoGamlin> Well ok
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[04 Jan/17:36] <CJbat> see topic.....
[04 Jan/17:36] <NeoGamlin> Here it is
[04 Jan/17:36] <NeoGamlin> Yes.
[04 Jan/17:36] <CJbat> `op
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[04 Jan/17:36] <NeoGamlin> I do.
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[04 Jan/17:36] <NeoGamlin> My system tray is messed up
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[04 Jan/17:36] <NeoGamlin> All the icons on my system tray are one notch below the clock
[04 Jan/17:36] <NeoGamlin> They aren't beside the clock, they are below it.
[04 Jan/17:36] <NeoGamlin> How can I make it back to normal?
[04 Jan/17:37] <CJbat> the task bar is larger...
[04 Jan/17:37] <devilDigg> um how tall is your system tray?
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[04 Jan/17:37] <NeoGamlin> 1
[04 Jan/17:37] <NeoGamlin> 1 notch
[04 Jan/17:37] <NeoGamlin> thats the thing
[04 Jan/17:37] <CJbat> just put the mouse over the taskbar till the pointer splits.. and drag it lower..
[04 Jan/17:37] <NeoGamlin> Nope
[04 Jan/17:37] <NeoGamlin> That doesn't work
[04 Jan/17:37] <NeoGamlin> hence "you have to see it to believe it"
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[04 Jan/17:38] <NeoGamlin> I've been fidling with it for a while.
[04 Jan/17:38] <devilDigg> ok do a print screen on it and save it as a jpg and send it over
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[04 Jan/17:39] <NeoGamlin> re-send?
[04 Jan/17:39] <devilDigg> heh, nice name
[04 Jan/17:39] <NeoGamlin> Heh,
[04 Jan/17:39] <NeoGamlin> <--- pissed off.
[04 Jan/17:39] <NeoGamlin> I've been messing with it for like 45 mins.
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[04 Jan/17:40] <NeoGamlin> That one is with 3 notches.
[04 Jan/17:40] <Amsterdam> NO FILES on channel
[04 Jan/17:40] <devilDigg> no its ok
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[04 Jan/17:40] <CJbat> no devil...
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[04 Jan/17:40] <CJbat> there is a reason we dont do it bud...
[04 Jan/17:40] <NeoGamlin> Viruses... =]
[04 Jan/17:40] <devilDigg> like i and cj said
[04 Jan/17:40] <devilDigg> drag the taskbar down
[04 Jan/17:40] <CJbat> among other things yes
[04 Jan/17:41] <NeoGamlin> Trust me.
[04 Jan/17:41] <NeoGamlin> I've been using windows for 7 years.
[04 Jan/17:41] <NeoGamlin> I know to drag it down.
[04 Jan/17:41] <NeoGamlin> It doesn't work.
[04 Jan/17:41] <devilDigg> well trust me
[04 Jan/17:41] <NeoGamlin> I need to get rid of those |  lines
[04 Jan/17:41] <NeoGamlin> Is there a way I can do it?
[04 Jan/17:42] <devilDigg> hold down shift and drag down
[04 Jan/17:42] <NeoGamlin> No deal.
[04 Jan/17:42] <NeoGamlin> The icon is still one below the clock.
[04 Jan/17:42] <NeoGamlin> Even after removing the clock and putting it back on..
[04 Jan/17:43] <NeoGamlin> It's because there is an extra "|" thing .. is my guess.
[04 Jan/17:44] <devilDigg> then refresh windows
[04 Jan/17:44] <NeoGamlin> How would I do that?
[04 Jan/17:44] <CJbat> F5
[04 Jan/17:45] <CJbat> or
[04 Jan/17:45] <CJbat> right click on the desktop and click refresh
[04 Jan/17:45] <CJbat> 7 years huh?
[04 Jan/17:45] <NeoGamlin> Yes.
[04 Jan/17:45] <NeoGamlin> I'm familiar with f5.
[04 Jan/17:45] <NeoGamlin> Yet that didn't seem to do anything.
[04 Jan/17:46] <NeoGamlin> There is still the stupid divider.
[04 Jan/17:47] <NeoGamlin> Any other ideas?
[04 Jan/17:47] <CJbat> well.. what started this?
[04 Jan/17:48] <devilDigg> bye..
[04 Jan/17:48] <devilDigg> seeya tommorow
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[04 Jan/17:48] <NeoGamlin> I have no idea.
[04 Jan/17:48] <NeoGamlin> It was just like this when I got here.
[04 Jan/17:48] <NeoGamlin> My roomie uses the computer too.
[04 Jan/17:48] <NeoGamlin> But it's quite ridculus.
[04 Jan/17:48] <NeoGamlin> I even rebooted.
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[04 Jan/18:16] <Biggs> ok does anyone have working 3dfx drivers for win2k pro?
[04 Jan/18:17] <Deton8R> since win2k isn't for sale...
[04 Jan/18:17] <Deton8R> I'll call it warez
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[04 Jan/18:18] <Biggs> beta tester
[04 Jan/18:18] <Deton8R> then talk to microsoft
[04 Jan/18:18] <Deton8R> or..3dfx.org I believe
[04 Jan/18:18] <LosQ3> should get them from your beta groups then
[04 Jan/18:18] <LosQ3> probably
[04 Jan/18:18] <Biggs> i tried
[04 Jan/18:18] <Biggs> but for somereason the NT drivers aren't working
[04 Jan/18:19] <Biggs> i hate microsoft ;p
[04 Jan/18:21] <CJafk> oh  yeah  its MS fault
[04 Jan/18:21] <CJafk> MS doesnt even make the drivers.. and its theri fault..
[04 Jan/18:21] <CJafk> good call...
[04 Jan/18:22] <Biggs> they need to get the manufactures copies to make the drivers for their products
[04 Jan/18:22] <LosQ3> people are just spoiled by windows
[04 Jan/18:22] <CJafk> Biggs they do...
[04 Jan/18:22] <Biggs> ok dude whatever
[04 Jan/18:22] <CJafk> WHQL....
[04 Jan/18:22] <Biggs> im "spoiled"
[04 Jan/18:22] <LosQ3> yeah and if they dont then windows sux hmmm
[04 Jan/18:22] <Biggs> windows sucks no matter what
[04 Jan/18:22] <LosQ3> k 
[04 Jan/18:23] <LosQ3> well thx for sharing 
[04 Jan/18:23] <CJafk> they send all manufactures win2k or whatever OS they are producing....
[04 Jan/18:23] <LosQ3> come back soon
[04 Jan/18:23] <Biggs> no prob
[04 Jan/18:23] <CJafk> then dont use windows
[04 Jan/18:23] <CJafk> you aint a beta tester
[04 Jan/18:23] <CJafk> i can tell ya that
[04 Jan/18:23] <Biggs> just testing it
[04 Jan/18:23] <CJafk> the heck youare...
[04 Jan/18:23] <LosQ3> oh installing an OS that sux
[04 Jan/18:23] <LosQ3> hmm
[04 Jan/18:23] <Biggs> ok, i can prov it to you
[04 Jan/18:23] <Biggs> like im gonna download it on a 56k modem
[04 Jan/18:23] <Biggs> that will take along time
[04 Jan/18:23] <CJafk> no..
[04 Jan/18:24] <LosQ3> gee that must be why betas get CDs
[04 Jan/18:24] <CJafk> but a lot of ppl "test" it from a copy they got at work.. or from a friend...
[04 Jan/18:24] <Biggs> and that's why i have it
[04 Jan/18:24] <LosQ3> no
[04 Jan/18:24] <Biggs> i got server and pro
[04 Jan/18:24] <CJafk> then why are ya testing it in Windows sucks??
[04 Jan/18:24] <LosQ3> I know many people that have it with 56K ... but they are doing warez
[04 Jan/18:24] <CJafk> windows isnt the issue..
[04 Jan/18:24] <CJafk> the maker of the card is...
[04 Jan/18:25] <CJafk> 3dfx IS workign with MS..
[04 Jan/18:25] <Biggs> well i wouldn't even know were to look
[04 Jan/18:25] <CJafk> always has
[04 Jan/18:25] <CJafk> WHQL...
[04 Jan/18:25] <Biggs> im a linux users but i put a app in to test win2k and i got chosen
[04 Jan/18:25] <Biggs> all i asked if u knew were to find drivers
[04 Jan/18:25] <CJafk> ooo...
[04 Jan/18:25] <CJafk> yeah  REAL lot of support for Linux drivers  aint there???
[04 Jan/18:25] <CJafk> cmon....
[04 Jan/18:25] <CJafk> i use Linux..
[04 Jan/18:25] <CJafk> almost all of us here use linux...
[04 Jan/18:25] <Biggs> everything works fine for me in linux
[04 Jan/18:25] <Deton8R> then you should stick with linux
[04 Jan/18:25] <Biggs> i have 3dfx drivers, usb, video, sound
[04 Jan/18:26] <CJafk> and there is a difference between linux and windows...
[04 Jan/18:26] <Biggs> it's not that great with drivers but i still have everything i need
[04 Jan/18:26] <CJafk> then again..
[04 Jan/18:26] <CJafk> if windows sucks  why are you testing it??
[04 Jan/18:26] <Biggs> im just saying the beta testers need to have the drivers they need so they can test things
[04 Jan/18:26] <Biggs> for the hell of it and for a free copy
[04 Jan/18:26] <CJafk> no...
[04 Jan/18:26] <Biggs> so i don't have to pay 170 bucks
[04 Jan/18:26] <CJafk> $170?
[04 Jan/18:26] <CJafk> try $319
[04 Jan/18:27] <Biggs> upgrade is 170
[04 Jan/18:27] <Biggs> www.ebworld.com
[04 Jan/18:27] <Biggs> www.egghead.com
[04 Jan/18:27] <Biggs> www.pricewatch.com
[04 Jan/18:27] <Biggs> see for yourself
[04 Jan/18:27] <CJafk> and for someone that can get USB working in Linux.. you sure have a tuff time getting the beta drivers from 3dfx  dont ya
[04 Jan/18:27] <CJafk> i know what the upgrade costs...
[04 Jan/18:27] <Biggs> then don't argue with me ;p
[04 Jan/18:27] <CJafk> ill argue
[04 Jan/18:27] <CJafk> its my channel
[04 Jan/18:28] <Biggs> you seem to be the big windows god
[04 Jan/18:28] <CJafk> 3dfx has had beta drivers out for a while bud...
[04 Jan/18:28] <CJafk> no
[04 Jan/18:28] <Biggs> it's so hard to master as it is....
[04 Jan/18:28] <CJafk> just an op..
[04 Jan/18:28] <Biggs> www.betaos.com
[04 Jan/18:28] <Biggs> nothing
[04 Jan/18:28] <Biggs> www.windrivers.com
[04 Jan/18:28] <Biggs> nothing
[04 Jan/18:28] <CJafk> 3dfx.com
[04 Jan/18:28] <CJafk> geeeze
[04 Jan/18:28] <Biggs> again
[04 Jan/18:28] <LosQ3> Biggs it has not been released yet
[04 Jan/18:28] <Biggs> nothning
[04 Jan/18:28] <LosQ3> sheez
[04 Jan/18:28] <CJafk> they have been working with MS..
[04 Jan/18:28] <Biggs> the nt drivers don't work
[04 Jan/18:29] <LosQ3> quit crying and lookin your beta groups
[04 Jan/18:29] <CJafk> as have all manufactures of devices to get win2k drivers...
[04 Jan/18:29] <LosQ3> yer not the only w2k user with a 3dfx card
[04 Jan/18:29] <CJafk> CAUSE NT and Win2k are different
[04 Jan/18:29] <CJafk> as a BETA tester you shoudl know this...
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[04 Jan/18:29] <LosQ3> haha
[04 Jan/18:29] <CJafk> flipping warez moron
[04 Jan/18:29] <LosQ3> that was overdue
[04 Jan/18:29] ! bijzonder is known as bijcook
[04 Jan/18:29] <Deton8R> I know
[04 Jan/18:29] <Deton8R> but I couldn't get the syntax right
[04 Jan/18:30] <LosQ3> haha
[04 Jan/18:30] <Deton8R> *#$&#$ it up 3 times before it stuck
[04 Jan/18:30] <CJafk> geeze
[04 Jan/18:30] <CJafk> great thanks  he msgs me....
[04 Jan/18:30] <Deton8R> ha
[04 Jan/18:30] <LosQ3> you obviously didnt use the script then
[04 Jan/18:30] <Deton8R> tell him to msg me
[04 Jan/18:30] <Deton8R> I did
[04 Jan/18:30] <Deton8R> but not the quick way
[04 Jan/18:30] <LosQ3> hehe
[04 Jan/18:31] <Deton8R> I set the ban for 100 days
[04 Jan/18:31] <Deton8R> and the max is 14
[04 Jan/18:31] <Deton8R> my bad
[04 Jan/18:31] <Deton8R> then I dicked up the level or somethign
[04 Jan/18:31] <LosQ3> oh haha
[04 Jan/18:31] <Deton8R> dunno
[04 Jan/18:31] <Deton8R> been a while
[04 Jan/18:31] <Deton8R> normally I just ban em myself
[04 Jan/18:31] <Deton8R> or use a mech/bot
[04 Jan/18:31] <Deton8R> and not w
[04 Jan/18:31] <LosQ3> yeah it isnt like as if yer name didnt appear on it anyway
[04 Jan/18:32] <Deton8R> i know
[04 Jan/18:32] <Deton8R> but I wanted to dust off the script
[04 Jan/18:32] <Deton8R> use something besides the server change and nasty messages
[04 Jan/18:32] <LosQ3> ahh and he DID volenteer to Gpig for ya
[04 Jan/18:33] <LosQ3> you should give him credits
[04 Jan/18:33] ! CJafk is known as CJbat
[04 Jan/18:33] <Deton8R> really
[04 Jan/18:33] <Deton8R> that might make him feel better about the ban
[04 Jan/18:34] <Deton8R> credit where credit is due
[04 Jan/18:34] <LosQ3> course being a linux user ..he probably wont be using it
[04 Jan/18:34] <Deton8R> yeah...right
[04 Jan/18:35] <Deton8R> I find myself wondering how he even spelled linux
[04 Jan/18:35] <LosQ3> I love how many morons come in here claiming to be linux users lately
[04 Jan/18:35] <LosQ3> and biggs comes in alot
[04 Jan/18:35] <Deton8R> well, what would they be doing here if they were linux g33x
[04 Jan/18:35] <CJbat> well windows suxs  he needs help  :P
[04 Jan/18:36] <LosQ3> win2k even
[04 Jan/18:36] <LosQ3> so better go to #win98
[04 Jan/18:36] <Deton8R> I need to rebuild my linux box
[04 Jan/18:36] <Deton8R> or fix /etc/fstab
[04 Jan/18:36] <CJbat> i still wanna know how he has USB working in linux.. 
[04 Jan/18:36] <LosQ3> yes you do
[04 Jan/18:36] <Deton8R> cuz I messed it up
[04 Jan/18:36] <CJbat> thast so much trouble to do ...
[04 Jan/18:36] <Deton8R> nah
[04 Jan/18:36] <Deton8R> I have a linux boot disk
[04 Jan/18:36] <LosQ3> hehe
[04 Jan/18:36] <Deton8R> has midnight commander on it
[04 Jan/18:37] <Deton8R> thank God
[04 Jan/18:37] <Deton8R> saved my butt a few times
[04 Jan/18:37] <Deton8R> and it reads ntfs, fat, fat32, etc
[04 Jan/18:38] <Deton8R> oh, and naturally ext2 and hpfs
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[04 Jan/18:53] <mrgone> back
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[04 Jan/18:54] <mrgone> hmm
[04 Jan/18:54] <mrgone> that was last year
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[04 Jan/18:59] <LosQ3> hi ya mrgone
[04 Jan/19:00] <mrgone> hi
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[04 Jan/19:12] <mrgone> found a place a hundred some kms from me that sells ex-cop cars. i want one
[04 Jan/19:12] <LosQ3> doh hahhahaha
[04 Jan/19:13] <mrgone> 5.7L v8 caprice classic
[04 Jan/19:13] <CJbat> drooooooollllll
[04 Jan/19:13] <CJbat> dude..
[04 Jan/19:13] <CJbat> im looking for one of the old GM cars like that
[04 Jan/19:14] <mrgone> was a 1994-95 i think
[04 Jan/19:14] <mrgone> i liek those
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[04 Jan/19:15] <mrgone> bad milage tho
[04 Jan/19:15] <mrgone> but who cares, u.s.'s gas prices rule
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[04 Jan/19:17] <pyrokiwi> hiya ppls
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[04 Jan/19:17] <mrgone> hey
[04 Jan/19:17] <pyrokiwi> hey
[04 Jan/19:17] <pyrokiwi> u r not gone
[04 Jan/19:18] <mrgone> i know
[04 Jan/19:22] ! ZeR0` is known as ZeR0food
[04 Jan/19:23] <mrgone> ugh
[04 Jan/19:23] <mrgone> do i ever need a faster conection
[04 Jan/19:23] <pyrokiwi> huh?
[04 Jan/19:23] <pyrokiwi> lol
[04 Jan/19:24] ! Nasty\DIN is known as MissNasty
[04 Jan/19:24] <pyrokiwi> i hav 56k modem and fairly good connection speed :)
[04 Jan/19:24] <CJbat> winnuke
[04 Jan/19:25] <mrgone> i have 56k modem dads 33.6 modem 33.6 connection... i put my modem in this puter till my borrowed 56k connectin ran out. ad it has :(
[04 Jan/19:25] <mrgone> i want dsl
[04 Jan/19:25] <pyrokiwi> lol
[04 Jan/19:25] <CJbat> i want a blonde....
[04 Jan/19:25] <mrgone> its 6 houses away from me
[04 Jan/19:25] <CJbat> we cant ALWAYS get what we want...
[04 Jan/19:25] <pyrokiwi> in that case i want microwave connection
[04 Jan/19:26] <CJbat> OC-3
[04 Jan/19:26] <pyrokiwi> which is fast permenant and both ways same speed
[04 Jan/19:26] <pyrokiwi> or in that case t-1
[04 Jan/19:26] <CJbat> OC-3
[04 Jan/19:27] <CJbat> way faster than t-1
[04 Jan/19:27] <pyrokiwi> ok then i want an oc-3
[04 Jan/19:27] <pyrokiwi> correction i want a fibre-optic link :)
[04 Jan/19:27] <mrgone> telepathic connection
[04 Jan/19:27] <pyrokiwi> direct 
[04 Jan/19:27] <mrgone> way faster than oc-3
[04 Jan/19:27] <pyrokiwi> lol
[04 Jan/19:28] <CJbat> hmm..
[04 Jan/19:28] * pyrokiwi wonders if telepathic connection with mrgone would constantly tell u he had gone
[04 Jan/19:28] <CJbat> im thinking...
[04 Jan/19:29] @ mode #win98 [-b *!*HL@208.154.15.*] by W!cservice@undernet.org
[04 Jan/19:29] * pyrokiwi decides CJbat thinks slowly or else he has a tele-pathetic connection
[04 Jan/19:30] <CJbat> http://www.whatis.com/thespeed.htm   < check that
[04 Jan/19:31] <CJbat> OC-256  13.271 Gbps Drooooooooooooooooolllllllllllllllllllll
[04 Jan/19:31] ! Volly is known as Volly-BRB
[04 Jan/19:32] ! ZeR0food is known as ZeR0`
[04 Jan/19:32] * pyrokiwi drools so much he floods new zealand
[04 Jan/19:32] <pyrokiwi> that is more then my hdrive in a second !
[04 Jan/19:32] <Azmodan> you must have a small hard drive then
[04 Jan/19:32] <pyrokiwi> :Þ~   <--------- pyro
[04 Jan/19:32] <pyrokiwi> no 13gigs is NOT small
[04 Jan/19:33] <Azmodan> thats not 13gigs
[04 Jan/19:33] <pyrokiwi> how big is urs?
[04 Jan/19:33] <Azmodan> do the math
[04 Jan/19:33] <Azmodan> divide it by 8
[04 Jan/19:33] <mrgone> im getting a 13 gig hd soon, decided not on the 17 gig 
[04 Jan/19:33] <pyrokiwi> y devide by 8 ?
[04 Jan/19:33] <Azmodan> becuase its bits
[04 Jan/19:33] ! MissNasty is known as Lesbian-
[04 Jan/19:33] <CJbat> 1.657
[04 Jan/19:34] <pyrokiwi> oh ok 
[04 Jan/19:34] <pyrokiwi> i am not brainy ok
[04 Jan/19:34] <pyrokiwi> some1 has to explain this to me
[04 Jan/19:34] <pyrokiwi> i am only 14
[04 Jan/19:34] <Azmodan> okies you are blonde does that answer your question
[04 Jan/19:35] <Azmodan> ^^^^ my wifes comments not mine
[04 Jan/19:35] <pyrokiwi> actually i BLEACHED my hair i am NOT a NATURAL blond
[04 Jan/19:35] <pyrokiwi> hmmm y dont i believe that is your wife there?
[04 Jan/19:35] <Azmodan> well she is so you can believe whatever you want
[04 Jan/19:35] ! AmsterPeg is known as PegHome
[04 Jan/19:36] <pyrokiwi> well then what was that about u wanting a blond b4
[04 Jan/19:36] <Azmodan> she is blonde, so I guess I've got one ;-)
[04 Jan/19:36] <CJbat> i said that
[04 Jan/19:36] <CJbat> geeeeeeeeeeeeeeez4e
[04 Jan/19:36] <mrgone> that was cj
[04 Jan/19:36] <CJbat> you really are blonde
[04 Jan/19:36] <pyrokiwi> lol just trying to get ya in trouble
[04 Jan/19:37] <pyrokiwi> having fun while im young
[04 Jan/19:37] ! HigHBabE is known as HigH|AwaY
[04 Jan/19:37] <Azmodan> ya can't get the master in trouble
[04 Jan/19:37] <pyrokiwi> i can
[04 Jan/19:37] <pyrokiwi> now if i drag that logfile out from a couple of days ago
[04 Jan/19:38] <Azmodan> go for it
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[04 Jan/19:38] @ mode #win98 [+v lowerorde] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[04 Jan/19:38] <pyrokiwi> i dont want +b
[04 Jan/19:38] <Azmodan> hehe
[04 Jan/19:38] <Azmodan> okies is a z- more your speed
[04 Jan/19:38] <pyrokiwi> also my log file is SO big if i search through all of it by that time u will both be dead
[04 Jan/19:39] <pyrokiwi> z- ?
[04 Jan/19:39] <lowerorde> can anyone can help me with sharing dsl with two computers?? 
[04 Jan/19:39] <mrgone> [09:13] <Azmodan> my wife kicks ass
[04 Jan/19:39] <Azmodan> no cussing!
[04 Jan/19:39] <pyrokiwi> hmmm
[04 Jan/19:39] <lowerorde> i can't figure out how to network both of them
[04 Jan/19:39] <CJbat> lower  www.helmig.com   or www.cablemodemhelp.com
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[04 Jan/19:39] <pyrokiwi> AZ no cussing
[04 Jan/19:39] <mrgone> nuh uh that was you az
[04 Jan/19:39] @ mode #win98 [+v Cigar17] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[04 Jan/19:40] <Cigar17> Can anyone help me with a network?
[04 Jan/19:40] <lowerorde> thank you
[04 Jan/19:40] <Azmodan> `kick azmodan no cussing
[04 Jan/19:40] < Azmodan!~azmodan@p93-tnt1.akl.ihug.co.nz was kicked off #win98 by Zeus!pegasys@tigerrose.grateful.org (no cussing)
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[04 Jan/19:40] <Azmodan> `op
[04 Jan/19:40] <pyrokiwi> `kban Azmodan no cussing
[04 Jan/19:41] <pyrokiwi> if only but oh well
[04 Jan/19:41] <mrgone> lol
[04 Jan/19:41] <Azmodan> .`kb pyrokiwi impersonating an op
[04 Jan/19:41] < SignOff: Amsterdam!pegasys@tigerrose.grateful.org (Read error to Amsterdam[tigerrose.grateful.org]: EOF from client)
[04 Jan/19:41] <pyrokiwi> lol
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[04 Jan/19:41] <pyrokiwi> i was not impersenating i was finding out if i had access
[04 Jan/19:41] <Azmodan> -op
[04 Jan/19:41] @ mode #win98 [+v Aphrodite] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[04 Jan/19:41] @ mode #win98 [+o Azmodan] by Tribble!biged98@chat.eskimo.com
[04 Jan/19:41] < Cigar17!peace@173.bridgeton-10.mo.dial-access.att.net has left #win98 ()
[04 Jan/19:42] <Azmodan> trust me, if one of us says your impersonating then you are
[04 Jan/19:42] <mrgone> pyrokiwi no, you dont :)
[04 Jan/19:42] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm
[04 Jan/19:42] <pyrokiwi> this sux
[04 Jan/19:42] @ mode #win98 [+oo Aphrodite Proteus] by Azmodan!~azmodan@p93-tnt1.akl.ihug.co.nz
[04 Jan/19:42] <mrgone> ah calm down
[04 Jan/19:42] <pyrokiwi> i must be the only 1 crazy enought to sit her 4 soo long talking to old ppl without getting ops and always getting dissed
[04 Jan/19:43] <CJbat> old ppl?
[04 Jan/19:43] <LosQ3> ops are earned
[04 Jan/19:43] <mrgone> hehe
[04 Jan/19:43] ! He||Cat is known as ReMaX
[04 Jan/19:43] <mrgone> you guys are old
[04 Jan/19:43] <CJbat> OLD PPL????????????/
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[04 Jan/19:43] <Mad^Cow> mooo!
[04 Jan/19:43] @ mode #win98 [+v Mad^Cow] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[04 Jan/19:43] <LosQ3> Mad^Cow!!
[04 Jan/19:43] <pyrokiwi> well CJbat how old are u?
[04 Jan/19:43] <Azmodan> oi
[04 Jan/19:43] <Mad^Cow> losbaby
[04 Jan/19:43] <mrgone> lol
[04 Jan/19:44] <pyrokiwi> tell us CJbat how old u r then i will believe u
[04 Jan/19:44] * Mad^Cow drop kicks pyrokiwi out the park
[04 Jan/19:44] <CJbat> im 30
[04 Jan/19:44] <pyrokiwi> old
[04 Jan/19:44] <CJbat> told ya that liike i dunno how many times...
[04 Jan/19:44] <pyrokiwi> see ppl that just joine diss me
[04 Jan/19:44] <CJbat> yeah  here's a good one for ya..
[04 Jan/19:44] <CJbat> im 30  
[04 Jan/19:44] <pyrokiwi> is it some autonotice that tells ppl to diss me when they join?
[04 Jan/19:44] <CJbat> but I can date teh 18 yr old hotties you stare at all day long in school...
[04 Jan/19:44] <Mad^Cow> well pyrokiwi its cause i'm az's wife
[04 Jan/19:45] <pyrokiwi> oh i seeee
[04 Jan/19:45] ! PegHome is known as damit
[04 Jan/19:45] <CJbat> and gettign dissed..
[04 Jan/19:45] <Athena> I am old (but why should a 14 year old that frequently acts like a 5 year old get ops?
[04 Jan/19:45] <CJbat> is part of the club...
[04 Jan/19:45] <CJbat> example...
[04 Jan/19:45] <CJbat> LOS IS A QUAKE 3 WEENIE!!!!!!!
[04 Jan/19:45] <Azmodan> oi no caps
[04 Jan/19:45] <Mad^Cow> ewwwww
[04 Jan/19:45] <Azmodan> .kick CJbat 
[04 Jan/19:46] <CJbat> hehe
[04 Jan/19:46] <Mad^Cow> quake bites
[04 Jan/19:46] <LosQ3> hehe
[04 Jan/19:46] <pyrokiwi> CJbat a- i am on holiday b-i do not stare at 18 years olds i stare at some1 else c-any sane 18year old would run if a 30 year old asked them out
[04 Jan/19:46] <CJbat> no
[04 Jan/19:46] <CJbat> not really dude...
[04 Jan/19:46] <CJbat> ive dated 18 yr olds
[04 Jan/19:46] <CJbat> college women...
[04 Jan/19:46] <pyrokiwi> ? that is scary
[04 Jan/19:46] <CJbat> smart chickies too...
[04 Jan/19:46] <pyrokiwi> poor them
[04 Jan/19:46] <Mad^Cow> i've dated 18 yr olds
[04 Jan/19:46] <CJbat> not really...
[04 Jan/19:46] <pyrokiwi> also how many years ago was that?
[04 Jan/19:46] <Azmodan> sheesh woman, you cradle snatched a 19 year old
[04 Jan/19:47] <LosQ3> haha
[04 Jan/19:47] <Mad^Cow> oi u
[04 Jan/19:47] <pyrokiwi> lol
[04 Jan/19:47] <Mad^Cow> it was long ago
[04 Jan/19:47] <mrgone> hhaha
[04 Jan/19:47] <Mad^Cow> when u were in nappies still
[04 Jan/19:47] <CJbat> see pyro..
[04 Jan/19:47] <pyrokiwi> anyway 30 is old ok
[04 Jan/19:47] <mrgone> before our times
[04 Jan/19:47] <CJbat> when yer my age.. and a 18-19 yr old women look at ya...
[04 Jan/19:47] <CJbat> you go fer it...
[04 Jan/19:48] <Mad^Cow> oi mrgone i'm younger than cj
[04 Jan/19:48] <CJbat> ya dont ask questions... ya just go for it..
[04 Jan/19:48] <CJbat> its all fun...
[04 Jan/19:48] ! Grunter is known as Grunt_Awa
[04 Jan/19:48] <pyrokiwi> hmmm ok list of phadelphiles 1-cj 2-madcow
[04 Jan/19:48] <CJbat> pediphiles??/
[04 Jan/19:48] <CJbat> hows that make me a pediphile??
[04 Jan/19:48] <mrgone> Mad^Cow so am i....
[04 Jan/19:49] <Mad^Cow> and me
[04 Jan/19:49] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm
[04 Jan/19:49] <CJbat> my step mother is 12 yrs younger than my dad....
[04 Jan/19:49] + Azmodan looks at some might thin ice
[04 Jan/19:49] ! Lesbian- is known as MissNasty
[04 Jan/19:49] * Mad^Cow puts pyrokiwi in the paddock for the piggy's to eat
[04 Jan/19:49] * pyrokiwi wonders how sane ppl are that they believe he means everything he says
[04 Jan/19:49] * pyrokiwi is thin anyway so wont break ice (phew)
[04 Jan/19:50] <Mad^Cow> u wanna bet
[04 Jan/19:50] <Azmodan> I don't believe, I'm just screwing with your mind
[04 Jan/19:50] <CJbat> skinny arse punk...
[04 Jan/19:50] <Mad^Cow> he has a mind??
[04 Jan/19:50] <CJbat> yeah
[04 Jan/19:50] <Azmodan> hey, I'm looking real hard
[04 Jan/19:50] <pyrokiwi> hmmm Azmodan where u live?
[04 Jan/19:50] <Mad^Cow> in a house
[04 Jan/19:50] <Azmodan> I told you yesterday
[04 Jan/19:50] <Azmodan> Metropolis
[04 Jan/19:51] <pyrokiwi> seee i told ya all i do is sit here with old ppl and get dissed
[04 Jan/19:51] <pyrokiwi> yes
[04 Jan/19:51] <pyrokiwi> very funny
[04 Jan/19:51] <pyrokiwi> no where in nz do u live?
[04 Jan/19:51] <Mad^Cow> moo
[04 Jan/19:51] <Mad^Cow> the fruit bowl of nz
[04 Jan/19:51] <mrgone> meep
[04 Jan/19:52] <mrgone> brb snackin
[04 Jan/19:52] <pyrokiwi> hmmm im afraid i know nothin bout fruit bowles of nz cause we has a mental geo teacher
[04 Jan/19:52] <pyrokiwi> also there are lots of them 
[04 Jan/19:52] <Mad^Cow> gee
[04 Jan/19:53] * Mad^Cow hands pyrokiwi a text book or three
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[04 Jan/19:53] @ Topic by W: Premier Win98 Tech-Help-N-Chat Channel|NO:Warez,Files,/MSG's,Cussing,Keys,etc (look.4.new.info.bot.here)
[04 Jan/19:53] <pyrokiwi> just tell me the name it is school holidays my brain is turned off ok ?
[04 Jan/19:53] @ mode #win98 [+v MetroAz] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[04 Jan/19:53] <pyrokiwi> just tell me the name it is school holidays my brain is turned off ok ?
[04 Jan/19:53] <MetroAz> and here I am from my country estate
[04 Jan/19:53] <Mad^Cow> lazy bum
[04 Jan/19:53] <Mad^Cow> hehehe
[04 Jan/19:53] * pyrokiwi has a right to be lazy during holidays
[04 Jan/19:53] <Mad^Cow> okies wine country then does that help at all
[04 Jan/19:53] * pyrokiwi thinks Mad^Cow is jealous cause she has no school holidays
[04 Jan/19:54] <pyrokiwi> wine hmmmmmmm
[04 Jan/19:54] <pyrokiwi> hawkes bay
[04 Jan/19:54] <pyrokiwi> wanganui
[04 Jan/19:54] <Mad^Cow> yes i do with my 8 yr old son and he is still learning in the holiday's
[04 Jan/19:54] <pyrokiwi> hamilton
[04 Jan/19:54] <mrgone> across from a liquer store
[04 Jan/19:54] <MetroAz> bingo
[04 Jan/19:54] <Mad^Cow> hb
[04 Jan/19:54] <pyrokiwi> lol u think
[04 Jan/19:54] < SignOff: MetroAz!~azmodan@AS5300-229.sysr.com (BITE ME!)
[04 Jan/19:54] <Mad^Cow> wheres bingo?
[04 Jan/19:54] * pyrokiwi bites Azmodan
[04 Jan/19:55] <Mad^Cow> that damn dog
[04 Jan/19:55] <mrgone> on a farm
[04 Jan/19:55] * pyrokiwi didnt mean that to sound bad
[04 Jan/19:55] * Mad^Cow kicks pyrokiwi in the family jewels
[04 Jan/19:55] <CJbat> MAD COW!!!  MAD COW!!!!!
[04 Jan/19:55] <Mad^Cow> that i am
[04 Jan/19:55] <mrgone> oof
[04 Jan/19:56] @ mode #win98 [+o Mad^Cow] by Azmodan!~azmodan@p93-tnt1.akl.ihug.co.nz
[04 Jan/19:56] <Azmodan> kick him harder!
[04 Jan/19:56] * pyrokiwi thinks that was vicious so he picks up a large solid object and throws it at Mad^Cow
[04 Jan/19:56] * pyrokiwi jumpes in a tank
[04 Jan/19:56] <Mad^Cow> okies
[04 Jan/19:56] * mrgone hands out wrestling belts
[04 Jan/19:56] * pyrokiwi turns Mad^Cow into beef sausages
[04 Jan/19:56] <CJbat> DING DING DING>>>>>
[04 Jan/19:57] < pyrokiwi!mrhehe@210-55-121-251.dialup.xtra.co.nz was kicked off #win98 by Mad^Cow!moooo@p93-tnt1.akl.ihug.co.nz (cows with guns bang bang!)
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[04 Jan/19:57] <mrgone> well im goin to bed, your sencless violence is warping my fragile canadian mind.
[04 Jan/19:57] <Azmodan> fragile?
[04 Jan/19:57] * pyrokiwi thiks that it is unfair having his opponent opped
[04 Jan/19:57] <CJbat> in this corner weighing in at 8Kilos.....  FlamingFruit Boy!!!!
[04 Jan/19:57] * Mad^Cow loves the song cows with guns
[04 Jan/19:57] * pyrokiwi takes out his @gun
[04 Jan/19:57] @ mode #win98 [-o Mad^Cow] by Azmodan!~azmodan@p93-tnt1.akl.ihug.co.nz
[04 Jan/19:57] <pyrokiwi> 8  KILOS  ?
[04 Jan/19:57] <Azmodan> love it CJ
[04 Jan/19:57] <pyrokiwi> wat
[04 Jan/19:57] <pyrokiwi> i said i was skinny i did not say i was a fly
[04 Jan/19:58] * mrgone shovels his driveway on #win98
[04 Jan/19:58] <CJbat> lbs kbs  what ever
[04 Jan/19:58] < SignOff: mrgone!~Webmaster@ts1-112.brg.tallships.ca (im a leech that needs to be bled)
[04 Jan/19:58] <pyrokiwi> lbs i dont know them
[04 Jan/19:58] <Mad^Cow> 8 stone maybe
[04 Jan/19:58] <pyrokiwi> grrrr
[04 Jan/19:58] <CJbat> 8 pepples
[04 Jan/19:58] ! AsianChic is known as BlackChic
[04 Jan/19:58] * pyrokiwi thinks az's wife caught the mad cow disease
[04 Jan/19:58] <pyrokiwi> oooh
[04 Jan/19:58] <Mad^Cow> yeap
[04 Jan/19:59] <pyrokiwi> how do u send a sound?
[04 Jan/19:59] <Azmodan> well you see you don't.  Sound waves travel all by themselves
[04 Jan/19:59] ! BlackChic is known as GreenChic
[04 Jan/19:59] <Mad^Cow> a wav
[04 Jan/19:59] <CJbat> ya mean  DCC
[04 Jan/19:59] <pyrokiwi> yeh thats it waitup i need to find out
[04 Jan/20:00] * Mad^Cow kicks az and turns the mp3 cows with guns on and moo's at the top of her voice
[04 Jan/20:00] <pyrokiwi> i know its a wave buy accept it pls
[04 Jan/20:00] <CJbat> ooohh..
[04 Jan/20:00] <CJbat> i used to have the one too...
[04 Jan/20:00] <Azmodan> he's sending files!!!!!
[04 Jan/20:00] <CJbat> been meaning to get the Twisted Tunes CD...
[04 Jan/20:00] <Mad^Cow> oh god
[04 Jan/20:01] * Mad^Cow goes and burns down mcdonalds
[04 Jan/20:01] * pyrokiwi groans at Azmodan's stupid complaint
[04 Jan/20:01] ! stoopid is known as b|ind`
[04 Jan/20:01] * Mad^Cow points to the topic
[04 Jan/20:01] <Azmodan> your eating my bandwidth boy, I'll complain when I want to
[04 Jan/20:02] <Mad^Cow> hehehehe
[04 Jan/20:02] <pyrokiwi> those are a-windows files b-not free wave files c-she chose to accept so go blame her
[04 Jan/20:02] <pyrokiwi> oh blow she isnt back from holiday yet
[04 Jan/20:02] <Mad^Cow> she is the cats whiskers didn't your mother teach u manners
[04 Jan/20:02] <pyrokiwi> she is the Mad^Cow duh
[04 Jan/20:02] <Azmodan> somebody is giveing me lessons on the rules
[04 Jan/20:03] <LosQ3> hmm I see that someone is making a pest of themself
[04 Jan/20:03] * pyrokiwi decides that he is allowed to be cheeky after being dissed all year
[04 Jan/20:03] * Mad^Cow hands Azmodan a dictionary :oP
[04 Jan/20:03] <LosQ3> all year?
[04 Jan/20:03] <pyrokiwi> well 3/4 of it anyway
[04 Jan/20:03] <CJbat> someone needs a spanking...
[04 Jan/20:03] <LosQ3> you have been here for a month...or maybe two
[04 Jan/20:03] <Azmodan> you haven't been here a whole year yet
[04 Jan/20:03] <Mad^Cow> oh look it lives
[04 Jan/20:03] <CJbat> funnything is..
[04 Jan/20:03] <CJbat> i bet i oucld date his mom....
[04 Jan/20:03] <pyrokiwi> wat?
[04 Jan/20:03] <LosQ3> :P
[04 Jan/20:04] <CJbat> er could...
[04 Jan/20:04] <pyrokiwi> my mum date my mum did u say?
[04 Jan/20:04] <CJbat> could....
[04 Jan/20:04] <CJbat> even dated 45 yr old women too...
[04 Jan/20:04] <CJbat> i take the wide range bud...
[04 Jan/20:04] <pyrokiwi> hmmmmmm my mum a-is 43 b-wouldnt
[04 Jan/20:04] <CJbat> all sorts...
[04 Jan/20:04] <CJbat> all types...
[04 Jan/20:04] <CJbat> 43 is young...
[04 Jan/20:05] <Mad^Cow> sugar my sisters and brother are older than that
[04 Jan/20:05] <CJbat> tell ya this much...
[04 Jan/20:05] * pyrokiwi decides that if any female he sees acts desperate he will give them CJbat's address he will be sure to take them in
[04 Jan/20:05] <CJbat> women get better with age.....
[04 Jan/20:05] <CJbat> 30+ women are demons..... 
[04 Jan/20:05] <Azmodan> (tell me about it)
[04 Jan/20:05] <CJbat> they know what they want..
[04 Jan/20:05] <CJbat> and go right for it....
[04 Jan/20:05] <CJbat> hehe
[04 Jan/20:06] <Mad^Cow> oi u
[04 Jan/20:06] <Mad^Cow> i'm not that much older than u mister
[04 Jan/20:06] <pyrokiwi> lol
[04 Jan/20:06] <CJbat> pyro.. go see American Pie...
[04 Jan/20:06] <CJbat> well when yer old enough to 
[04 Jan/20:06] <CJbat> heh
[04 Jan/20:07] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm r18 in nz
[04 Jan/20:07] <pyrokiwi> no r16 i think
[04 Jan/20:07] * Mad^Cow pushes LosQ3 off his chair to see if he is paying attention
[04 Jan/20:07] <pyrokiwi> lol
[04 Jan/20:07] <CJbat> he's quaking..
[04 Jan/20:07] <CJbat> leave him be  :PPP
[04 Jan/20:07] <Azmodan> in his boots
[04 Jan/20:07] <CJbat> ill be there soon enough...
[04 Jan/20:07] <Mad^Cow> nah
[04 Jan/20:07] <CJbat> << just beat Unreal....
[04 Jan/20:07] * pyrokiwi wonders if LosQ3 thought there was a quake
[04 Jan/20:07] <pyrokiwi> unreal RULZ
[04 Jan/20:07] <CJbat> ahh unreal is weak...
[04 Jan/20:07] <pyrokiwi> tournament does anyway
[04 Jan/20:07] <CJbat> compared to Q3
[04 Jan/20:08] <Mad^Cow> knitting rulz!
[04 Jan/20:08] <CJbat> now UT  i have to try...
[04 Jan/20:08] <pyrokiwi> unreal tounament is the BEST
[04 Jan/20:08] <pyrokiwi> i hav played demo it was AWESOME
[04 Jan/20:08] <pyrokiwi> heck the machine i played it on to had dabomb graphics card
[04 Jan/20:08] <CJbat> oh?
[04 Jan/20:08] <CJbat> S3 trio huh?
[04 Jan/20:09] <Azmodan> lol maybe a t8900c
[04 Jan/20:09] <pyrokiwi> all the guys at shop crowded round me (their unpaying customer) and drooled
[04 Jan/20:09] <CJbat> whole 512kb
[04 Jan/20:09] <pyrokiwi> no actually the guy at shop said was basically best card out
[04 Jan/20:09] <CJbat> ewwww
[04 Jan/20:09] <CJbat> no no no
[04 Jan/20:09] <pyrokiwi> also it was 21inch moniter
[04 Jan/20:09] <CJbat> thats evil... gawd no
[04 Jan/20:09] <Azmodan> but what was the card
[04 Jan/20:09] <pyrokiwi> No it was not oxygen
[04 Jan/20:09] <CJbat> 21"  that all ya got little man
[04 Jan/20:09] <pyrokiwi> cant remember
[04 Jan/20:09] <pyrokiwi> it wasnt mine it was shops
[04 Jan/20:10] <pyrokiwi> it ran at full res no lag perfect scrolling real fine details
[04 Jan/20:10] <CJbat> Unreal was a bear....
[04 Jan/20:10] <CJbat> horrid scrolling...
[04 Jan/20:10] <CJbat> just horrid..
[04 Jan/20:10] <pyrokiwi> i am talking about ut
[04 Jan/20:10] <Azmodan> define full rez
[04 Jan/20:10] <CJbat> UT supposedly fixed this...
[04 Jan/20:10] * Mad^Cow yawns
[04 Jan/20:10] <pyrokiwi> oh yes it did
[04 Jan/20:10] + Azmodan shoves a sock in Mad^Cow's mouth
[04 Jan/20:11] ! Grunt_Awa is known as Grunter
[04 Jan/20:11] <CJbat> good thing that was a S....
[04 Jan/20:11] <pyrokiwi> it is the game but i supose that it hasnt been seen down in hb yet
[04 Jan/20:11] <Mad^Cow> ewwwww phewie wash it first
[04 Jan/20:11] * LosQ3 wont EVEN go there
[04 Jan/20:11] <CJbat> LOL
[04 Jan/20:11] <CJbat> awww Los...
[04 Jan/20:11] <LosQ3> hehe
[04 Jan/20:11] <CJbat> ahh Q3..
[04 Jan/20:11] <CJbat> all the way...
[04 Jan/20:11] <Azmodan> pyro, your losing it
[04 Jan/20:11] * pyrokiwi wonders where that sock had been and was PLEASED it wasnt his mouth
[04 Jan/20:11] <LosQ3> plays so so nice
[04 Jan/20:12] <pyrokiwi> i am losing wat?
[04 Jan/20:12] <CJbat> thats the MP game of the year dude...
[04 Jan/20:12] <pyrokiwi> never played q3
[04 Jan/20:12] <LosQ3> easy
[04 Jan/20:12] * Mad^Cow throws a cow pattie to pyrokiwi
[04 Jan/20:12] <CJbat> nothing like jumping of a jump platform and Railing a friend...
[04 Jan/20:12] * pyrokiwi catches the chocolate brownie "yummy"
[04 Jan/20:13] <CJbat> pyro  once ya see Q3 in MP action...
[04 Jan/20:13] <Mad^Cow> its great fertilizer
[04 Jan/20:13] <CJbat> you'll thingk UT was Wolfenstein...
[04 Jan/20:13] <pyrokiwi> mmmmm 
[04 Jan/20:13] <pyrokiwi> nope i dont think so
[04 Jan/20:13] <pyrokiwi> how many players does it support?
[04 Jan/20:13] <pyrokiwi> now Mad^Cow play that wave and see wat i think of u
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[04 Jan/20:13] <CJbat> unlimited if i remember correctly....
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[04 Jan/20:14] <CJbat> but.. that may have been the hype..
[04 Jan/20:14] <pyrokiwi> yo Deton8R like normal every1 is dissing me
[04 Jan/20:14] <CJbat> q2 does do 64 players
[04 Jan/20:14] <pyrokiwi> well that is true of ut anyway
[04 Jan/20:14] <Deton8R> imagine that
[04 Jan/20:14] <pyrokiwi> ut does unlimited
[04 Jan/20:14] <Deton8R> aren't you our designated punching bag?
[04 Jan/20:14] <pyrokiwi> yep i am 
[04 Jan/20:15] <Mad^Cow> no thats u det
[04 Jan/20:15] <pyrokiwi> Mad^Cow is just playing a wav file that is wat i think of her
[04 Jan/20:15] <Mad^Cow> yes well
[04 Jan/20:15] <Mad^Cow> i still like cows with guns better
[04 Jan/20:15] <pyrokiwi> so u played it?
[04 Jan/20:16] <Mad^Cow> yeah all 15 sec
[04 Jan/20:16] <CJbat> www.twistedtunes.com
[04 Jan/20:16] <pyrokiwi> lol did az listen?
[04 Jan/20:16] <Mad^Cow> yeah he is sitting next to me
[04 Jan/20:16] * Mad^Cow sings along with cows with guns
[04 Jan/20:17] <Deton8R> fluffe?
[04 Jan/20:17] <Mad^Cow> yes
[04 Jan/20:17] <Deton8R> aroha
[04 Jan/20:17] <Mad^Cow> yes trouble
[04 Jan/20:17] <Deton8R> doh
[04 Jan/20:18] <Deton8R> hey
[04 Jan/20:18] <Deton8R> I been good lately
[04 Jan/20:18] <Deton8R> really honest
[04 Jan/20:18] <pyrokiwi> really
[04 Jan/20:18] <pyrokiwi> just like no1 picks on me?
[04 Jan/20:18] <Deton8R> ha
[04 Jan/20:18] <CJbat> we dont pick on you.........
[04 Jan/20:18] <Mad^Cow> he was a young cow no one expected he was carrying an uzzie
[04 Jan/20:18] <Mad^Cow> doh
[04 Jan/20:18] <CJbat> hehe
[04 Jan/20:18] * pyrokiwi wonders if Mad^Cow married a cow...yes he thinks so
[04 Jan/20:19] <CJbat> oh....dude..
[04 Jan/20:19] * Mad^Cow goes back to singing and finds a dictionary
[04 Jan/20:19] <Azmodan> -kick pyrokiwi oi
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[04 Jan/20:19] <Mad^Cow> az is no cow
[04 Jan/20:19] <Deton8R> ha
[04 Jan/20:19] <Deton8R> a geek perhaps
[04 Jan/20:19] <Mad^Cow> 12 burning mcdonalds
[04 Jan/20:19] <Deton8R> but no cow
[04 Jan/20:20] <Mad^Cow> oh thatws great coming from you mr village ppls
[04 Jan/20:20] <pyrokiwi> lol i would a been kciked 4 that
[04 Jan/20:20] <CJbat> BAHAHHAHA
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[04 Jan/20:20] <CJbat> its fun to stay at the  Y...M...C....A......  fun to stay at the........
[04 Jan/20:20] <pyrokiwi> oh man
[04 Jan/20:20] <Deton8R> o wut?
[04 Jan/20:21] <CJbat> thast song is older than you pyro...:PPPPPPPpp
[04 Jan/20:21] <Mad^Cow> chickens in choppers
[04 Jan/20:21] <pyrokiwi> hmmmmm
[04 Jan/20:21] <Deton8R> ping pong
[04 Jan/20:21] <pyrokiwi> nothin except dinosaurs is older then u
[04 Jan/20:21] <CJbat> heck.. i got Kiss albums older than you....
[04 Jan/20:21] * Mad^Cow goes and starts the village ppls playing just for pyro
[04 Jan/20:21] <CJbat> oh  good come back.. get that from nicklelodeon.com?
[04 Jan/20:22] <Mad^Cow> okies ppls shake your tail feathers
[04 Jan/20:22] * Mad^Cow drags LosQ3 out on the dance floor
[04 Jan/20:22] <CJbat> PARTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04 Jan/20:22] <Deton8R> Mad^Cow  yer still nutz
[04 Jan/20:22] <Azmodan> hooyaa
[04 Jan/20:22] <Mad^Cow> yeap
[04 Jan/20:23] <Mad^Cow> i have a elton john collectors records older than him
[04 Jan/20:24] ! CJbat is known as CJ^
[04 Jan/20:24] <pyrokiwi> lol Mad^Cow my bro wants a personalised number plate saying madcow (he is 11) it is hes fav word
[04 Jan/20:25] <Mad^Cow> hahahaha
[04 Jan/20:25] <Mad^Cow> CJbat has had a sex change to CJ^<---- ha ha ha ha doh
[04 Jan/20:25] <pyrokiwi> lol
[04 Jan/20:25] <CJ^> phtpphpth
[04 Jan/20:25] <Mad^Cow> well tuough its mine and i'm old enough to drive
[04 Jan/20:25] <CJ^> << gawd  i need to go out...
[04 Jan/20:25] <CJ^> party this weekend...
[04 Jan/20:25] <pyrokiwi> lol u hav it?
[04 Jan/20:25] <CJ^> ill go hook up...
[04 Jan/20:26] <Mad^Cow> nope
[04 Jan/20:26] <pyrokiwi> CJ^ out of interest do u ever plan to get married
[04 Jan/20:27] <CJ^> never again
[04 Jan/20:27] <CJ^> nope
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[04 Jan/20:27] <Mad^Cow> who said he isn't now
[04 Jan/20:27] <CJ^> been there twice...
[04 Jan/20:27] <Mad^Cow> awww
[04 Jan/20:27] <CJ^> just getting my divorce started...
[04 Jan/20:27] <CJ^> single..
[04 Jan/20:27] <CJ^> living on my own...
[04 Jan/20:27] <CJ^> gotta love it...
[04 Jan/20:27] <CJ^> see my daughter when i can..
[04 Jan/20:27] <Mad^Cow> nope
[04 Jan/20:27] <Mad^Cow> no bed warmer
[04 Jan/20:27] <CJ^> which turns out to be everyday...
[04 Jan/20:28] <CJ^> yeah  i do miss that  BUT
[04 Jan/20:28] <CJ^> i get that now and then..
[04 Jan/20:28] <CJ^> so  no worries...
[04 Jan/20:28] <Mad^Cow> and thats a big but
[04 Jan/20:28] <pyrokiwi> my bro just said yo oldes
[04 Jan/20:28] <CJ^> waiting on a friend to come over from Australia...
[04 Jan/20:28] <pyrokiwi> oldies
[04 Jan/20:28] <Mad^Cow> y m c a
[04 Jan/20:28] <CJ^> gotta love those accents...
[04 Jan/20:28] <Mad^Cow> ewwwwwwwwww
[04 Jan/20:28] <CJ^> hey now...
[04 Jan/20:29] <CJ^> i really get into em...
[04 Jan/20:29] <CJ^> that and Brits
[04 Jan/20:29] <Mad^Cow> now that cj is swearing
[04 Jan/20:29] <pyrokiwi> oh man the way aussies say six
[04 Jan/20:29] <Mad^Cow> oh and how the spell beer
[04 Jan/20:29] <Mad^Cow> they
[04 Jan/20:30] <CJ^> hey hey hey
[04 Jan/20:30] <CJ^> << watch it..
[04 Jan/20:30] <pyrokiwi> hav u heard them say six?
[04 Jan/20:30] <Mad^Cow> its fat alabert
[04 Jan/20:30] <CJ^> or ill bring out my NY accent...
[04 Jan/20:31] * Mad^Cow brings out the southern in her
[04 Jan/20:31] <CJ^> but that requires cussing...
[04 Jan/20:31] * pyrokiwi thinks saying CJ^ is cussing but the ops disagree with that 1
[04 Jan/20:32] * Mad^Cow sets fire to flamming fruit boy!
[04 Jan/20:32] <CJ^> heheh
[04 Jan/20:32] * pyrokiwi starts to play with fire then suddenly BOOOOOM
[04 Jan/20:32] * pyrokiwi yells ouch as he blows his arm off
[04 Jan/20:32] <CJ^> with tater tots..
[04 Jan/20:32] <Mad^Cow> anyone for toasted kiwifruit?
[04 Jan/20:33] <CJ^> no thanks
[04 Jan/20:33] <CJ^> smeels rotten
[04 Jan/20:33] <CJ^> er smells
[04 Jan/20:33] <Mad^Cow> yeah the burning fur
[04 Jan/20:34] * Mad^Cow listens to the base coming from the lounge
[04 Jan/20:35] * pyrokiwi wishes his dad wasnt home
[04 Jan/20:35] <Mad^Cow> oh listen its s club thats about pyrokiwi's speed
[04 Jan/20:35] <pyrokiwi> s club ? hmmm 
[04 Jan/20:36] <Mad^Cow> my 8 yr old likes them
[04 Jan/20:36] <pyrokiwi> oh
[04 Jan/20:37] <pyrokiwi> i remember the name
[04 Jan/20:37] <pyrokiwi> u would probably think some of the music i listen to pumped through decent speakers is feedback
[04 Jan/20:37] <Mad^Cow> they have there own tv show
[04 Jan/20:37] <pyrokiwi> yeh i know the name but cant remember
[04 Jan/20:38] * Mad^Cow makes sure to not let pyrokiwi any where near there stereo
[04 Jan/20:38] <pyrokiwi> lol doing sound 4 stuff is fun
[04 Jan/20:38] * pyrokiwi decides that there stereo probably isnt very loud
[04 Jan/20:38] * Mad^Cow laughs and laughs
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[04 Jan/20:41] * pyrokiwi wonders if Azmodan showed Mad^Cow his pic
[04 Jan/20:42] * pyrokiwi wonders y he took that pic
[04 Jan/20:42] <Mad^Cow> yes i saw that sick piece of work
[04 Jan/20:42] <pyrokiwi> lol
[04 Jan/20:42] * pyrokiwi almost turned himself into hamburgar patties
[04 Jan/20:42] <Mad^Cow> ewww kiwifruit with meat
[04 Jan/20:42] <pyrokiwi> crazy ppls
[04 Jan/20:42] <pyrokiwi> that was fun taking the pic
[04 Jan/20:43] * Mad^Cow rather take pic's of her cats
[04 Jan/20:44] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm
[04 Jan/20:44] <pyrokiwi> cats
[04 Jan/20:44] <pyrokiwi> dont cows eat cats?
[04 Jan/20:44] <CJ^> hmm..
[04 Jan/20:44] <CJ^> I could twist that
[04 Jan/20:44] <Mad^Cow> no
[04 Jan/20:44] <pyrokiwi> wat>?
[04 Jan/20:44] <pyrokiwi> CJ^ wat ya mean
[04 Jan/20:44] <Mad^Cow> mad cat
[04 Jan/20:45] <Mad^Cow> smile missymoo
[04 Jan/20:45] <pyrokiwi> az u need to change ur nick to Mad^Az
[04 Jan/20:45] <Mad^Cow> you should be fruitloop
[04 Jan/20:45] <CJ^> pyro....   if you ONLY knew... if only knew...
[04 Jan/20:45] <pyrokiwi> wat CJ^ tell me tell me
[04 Jan/20:46] <Azmodan> told you pryo, I do not change my nick
[04 Jan/20:46] <CJ^> nope
[04 Jan/20:46] <CJ^> yer too young...
[04 Jan/20:46] <pyrokiwi> TELL me
[04 Jan/20:46] <pyrokiwi> or else i will i will i dunno 
[04 Jan/20:47] <Mad^Cow> throw a tantrum like all little kiddies do
[04 Jan/20:48] <pyrokiwi> hmmm CJ^ i hope u are not thinking wat i am thinking right now
[04 Jan/20:49] <pyrokiwi> cause if u are a-u r a sick old guy b- i dont want to know
[04 Jan/20:50] <Mad^Cow> hey at least he's of age
[04 Jan/20:50] <CJ^> sick??
[04 Jan/20:50] <CJ^> HA
[04 Jan/20:50] <CJ^> lke i said.. you have yet to experience...
[04 Jan/20:51] <CJ^> two bebbe....
[04 Jan/20:51] <CJ^> two...
[04 Jan/20:51] <pyrokiwi> two bebbe?
[04 Jan/20:51] * CJ^ slaps his forehead.......
[04 Jan/20:51] <CJ^> yes two...
[04 Jan/20:51] <Mad^Cow> 16 is the legal age here so forget it pyro
[04 Jan/20:51] <CJ^> anyone else wanna send him Behind the GreenDoor??
[04 Jan/20:51] <CJ^> :P
[04 Jan/20:52] <pyrokiwi> 16leagal age 4 wat?
[04 Jan/20:52] * pyrokiwi is getting confused and worried now
[04 Jan/20:52] * Mad^Cow sends him behind the metal barred door
[04 Jan/20:52] <CJ^> HEHE
[04 Jan/20:52] <Azmodan> pyro if you don't know then you truly are too young
[04 Jan/20:52] * Mad^Cow looks at pyro
[04 Jan/20:52] <CJ^> ya know.. cant wait to see your reactiont the "first time"
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[04 Jan/20:52] <pyrokiwi> hmmmmm
[04 Jan/20:53] <Mad^Cow> far far far to young
[04 Jan/20:53] * pyrokiwi decides that he will shutup now and bring out a new subject
[04 Jan/20:54] <CJ^> hehe   this is just oo much..
[04 Jan/20:54] <CJ^> giggling here...
[04 Jan/20:54] <pyrokiwi> grrrr
[04 Jan/20:54] * pyrokiwi wonders if he should do something but no he wont
[04 Jan/20:54] * Mad^Cow sings with b`witched
[04 Jan/20:54] <Mad^Cow> you could knit something
[04 Jan/20:55] * pyrokiwi was talking about something but no he has decided not too
[04 Jan/20:56] * Mad^Cow pushes LosQ3 into a puddle that a poodle left for him
[04 Jan/20:56] <Mad^Cow> hehehe
[04 Jan/20:56] * pyrokiwi decides that CJ^ has a loose wire somewhere in that pc brain of his or else it has some mac hardware somewhere in it
[04 Jan/20:57] <CJ^> oh really?
[04 Jan/20:57] <CJ^> heh
[04 Jan/20:57] <CJ^> yeap..
[04 Jan/20:57] <CJ^> im a loose wire...
[04 Jan/20:57] <Azmodan> loose cannon
[04 Jan/20:57] <pyrokiwi> do u know imacs make good fish tanks
[04 Jan/20:57] <CJ^> iMacs are actually kewl dude..
[04 Jan/20:57] <CJ^> IF ya get used to em...
[04 Jan/20:58] <CJ^> ya have to tthink of the market they appeal too...
[04 Jan/20:58] <CJ^> G4's rock too...
[04 Jan/20:59] <Mad^Cow> tv's make great fish tanks
[04 Jan/21:01] <pyrokiwi> hmmm i still think imacs would
[04 Jan/21:01] <CJ^> hey
[04 Jan/21:01] * Mad^Cow sings hit pyro one more time
[04 Jan/21:01] <CJ^> an iMac is faster than yer POS system.. rem that
[04 Jan/21:02] <pyrokiwi> then mine yes so wat?
[04 Jan/21:03] <pyrokiwi> anyway do they really taste like grape?
[04 Jan/21:05] <Mad^Cow> who tastes like grape?
[04 Jan/21:07] <Athena> you do ya purple cow! :P
[04 Jan/21:07] <Mad^Cow> mooooo i'm a jersey cow
[04 Jan/21:07] <LosQ3> hehe
[04 Jan/21:07] <pyrokiwi> imacs taste like grape
[04 Jan/21:07] <pyrokiwi> or they come in grape flavour anyway
[04 Jan/21:08] <LosQ3> hey pyro what does the wall socket taste like?
[04 Jan/21:08] <pyrokiwi> ummm it doesnt say its flavoured so i didnt try
[04 Jan/21:08] <LosQ3> how about the bottome of your metal icecube trays?
[04 Jan/21:08] <pyrokiwi> nope havnt tried
[04 Jan/21:08] <CJ^> iBerry PC
[04 Jan/21:08] <LosQ3> you really oughta
[04 Jan/21:09] * pyrokiwi is NOT DUMB
[04 Jan/21:09] <Mad^Cow> pyrokiwi is just blonde!
[04 Jan/21:09] <CJ^> ignorant
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[04 Jan/21:09] <CJ^> he needs TWO bebbe....
[04 Jan/21:09] <Mad^Cow> blonde is kinder
[04 Jan/21:10] <CJ^> well  first he has to have one....:P
[04 Jan/21:10] <CJ^> kinder??
[04 Jan/21:10] <CJ^> hmmmm
[04 Jan/21:10] <CJ^> maybe
[04 Jan/21:12] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm
[04 Jan/21:12] * pyrokiwi wonders wat CJ^ is talking about
[04 Jan/21:13] * pyrokiwi knows CJ^ will be dissing him
[04 Jan/21:13] * Mad^Cow hands pyrokiwi some pullups
[04 Jan/21:13] <CJ^> ouch
[04 Jan/21:13] <CJ^> pampers
[04 Jan/21:14] <CJ^> Pull-Ups for big boys...
[04 Jan/21:14] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm
[04 Jan/21:14] <Mad^Cow> hehehe
[04 Jan/21:14] * pyrokiwi gets annoyed
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[04 Jan/21:14] * Mad^Cow goes back to singing
[04 Jan/21:14] <CJ^> <<< Jaming to Helloween.....
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[04 Jan/21:20] * Mad^Cow jumps oh bugger
[04 Jan/21:20] * pyrokiwi feels sad and depressed
[04 Jan/21:21] * Mad^Cow irons pyrokiwi out there less wringles
[04 Jan/21:21] * pyrokiwi wonders about crying
[04 Jan/21:22] <Mad^Cow> crows feet
[04 Jan/21:22] * pyrokiwi remembers that some ppl in fact most ppl apart from the bunch in here are nice to him
[04 Jan/21:23] * Mad^Cow wanders what pyrokiwi has been sniffing
[04 Jan/21:24] * pyrokiwi has not been sniffing anything
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[04 Jan/21:30] <pyrokiwi> do u realise it is true that a lot of ppl are kind to me?
[04 Jan/21:30] <Mad^Cow> i'm kind to me
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[04 Jan/21:35] <ZeroAlpha> HI, Anyone know anything about Netscape, I cant find a Netscape help anywhere
[04 Jan/21:36] <pyrokiwi> i do
[04 Jan/21:36] <pyrokiwi> wat with?
[04 Jan/21:36] <ZeroAlpha> Cool
[04 Jan/21:36] <pyrokiwi> what problem do u hav?
[04 Jan/21:37] * pyrokiwi has finally found a fellow person lucky enough to use netscape
[04 Jan/21:37] <ZeroAlpha> When I send an email, it attempt to attach a jpg file from something like nscomm40\temp\temp or something like that
[04 Jan/21:37] <pyrokiwi> hmmm
[04 Jan/21:37] <pyrokiwi> let me hav a look
[04 Jan/21:37] <Mad^Cow> nite all
[04 Jan/21:37] <Mad^Cow> pyrokiwi behave
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[04 Jan/21:38] <pyrokiwi> ahha go into preferences
[04 Jan/21:38] * ZeroAlpha smack his head on the desk nearly giving up
[04 Jan/21:38] <ZeroAlpha> in Netscape ?
[04 Jan/21:38] <pyrokiwi> are u in preferences?
[04 Jan/21:38] <pyrokiwi> yep in netscape
[04 Jan/21:38] <ZeroAlpha> hang on resizing....
[04 Jan/21:38] <pyrokiwi> ok :)
[04 Jan/21:39] <ZeroAlpha> yep
[04 Jan/21:39] <pyrokiwi> then when your there click on identity
[04 Jan/21:39] <ZeroAlpha> k
[04 Jan/21:39] ! ZeR0`- is known as ZeR0`
[04 Jan/21:39] <pyrokiwi> is there a check in the box saying attach my personal card to message... ?
[04 Jan/21:39] <ZeroAlpha> done
[04 Jan/21:39] <ZeroAlpha> yep
[04 Jan/21:39] <pyrokiwi> take it out
[04 Jan/21:40] <ZeroAlpha> untick it ?
[04 Jan/21:40] <pyrokiwi> yep
[04 Jan/21:40] <ZeroAlpha> Its already unticked.
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[04 Jan/21:40] <Gdubya> hi
[04 Jan/21:40] <pyrokiwi> oh i thought u said it had a tick
[04 Jan/21:40] @ mode #win98 [+v Gdubya] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[04 Jan/21:40] <Gdubya> anyone awake?
[04 Jan/21:40] <pyrokiwi> then is there a signature file there?
[04 Jan/21:40] <ZeroAlpha> nope
[04 Jan/21:41] <Gdubya> I have a Q... I'm thinking of getting win 98 any idea of a good pirce?
[04 Jan/21:41] <pyrokiwi> so no tick in box and no signature file ok 
[04 Jan/21:42] <ZeroAlpha> When I got to 'send' an email, it comes up and says that is unable to find a certain jpg in the TEMP\nscomm40\tmp\tmp
[04 Jan/21:42] <ZeroAlpha> Nope No tick no nuthin
[04 Jan/21:42] <pyrokiwi> yep i am thinkin u hav a virus?
[04 Jan/21:42] * ZeroAlpha was worried about that
[04 Jan/21:42] <ZeroAlpha> Want it for free ?
[04 Jan/21:42] <pyrokiwi> hmm hav u got norton?
[04 Jan/21:42] <LosQ3> `kb ZeroAlpha see ya
[04 Jan/21:42] @ mode #win98 [+b *!*ZeroAlpha@*.co.nz] by Athena!itsnotme@ppp35.US-GOVT.org
[04 Jan/21:42] < ZeroAlpha!ZeroAlpha@210-55-87-171.dialup.xtra.co.nz was kicked off #win98 by Athena!itsnotme@ppp35.US-GOVT.org (see ya)
[04 Jan/21:43] <pyrokiwi> ok wat was he on about?
[04 Jan/21:43] <Azmodan> zeroalpha just offered Gdubya win98 for free <---- not a good option
[04 Jan/21:44] <pyrokiwi> oh i see i though he was talking bout virus wasnt watching anything else
[04 Jan/21:44] <Gdubya> 2I just need to get 98 want a good price, but I need info on it
[04 Jan/21:44] <pyrokiwi> yeh i saw
[04 Jan/21:44] <pyrokiwi> sorta
[04 Jan/21:44] <Gdubya> I'd like the 2nd ed., but can I load it cold?
[04 Jan/21:44] <pyrokiwi> but didnt click was thinking
[04 Jan/21:45] <LosQ3> Gdubya you can if you have win95 and buy the upgrade
[04 Jan/21:45] <CJ^> yes Gdubya...
[04 Jan/21:45] <CJ^> you can install it clean...
[04 Jan/21:45] <Gdubya> I have heard bad things about the upgrade and my win95 is oem
[04 Jan/21:45] <LosQ3> it will ask for proof that you qualify (your win95 cd... 3.1 disks etc)
[04 Jan/21:45] <Gdubya> I want to get away from the oem, pain in the butt
[04 Jan/21:45] <pyrokiwi> he was offering me the virus 4 free not win98
[04 Jan/21:46] <LosQ3> either way not someone we want here pyro
[04 Jan/21:46] <pyrokiwi> lol he didnt mean it that way but nevermind
[04 Jan/21:46] <Gdubya> I want to wipe out win95 once and for all and install win98, get rid of all this crap on the oem
[04 Jan/21:47] <CJ^> you can
[04 Jan/21:47] <CJ^> even with teh upgrade...
[04 Jan/21:47] <CJ^> you dont need to have win95 installed to use the upgrade...
[04 Jan/21:47] <Gdubya> so getting win98 second ed.. will I need my win95 disc?
[04 Jan/21:47] <LosQ3> but is OEM qualifying
[04 Jan/21:47] <CJ^> yes  you will need it
[04 Jan/21:47] <CJ^> OEM shoud be...
[04 Jan/21:47] <Gdubya> good.. so I can f disk in dos and then load win 98?
[04 Jan/21:48] <CJ^> any OEM.. compaq, hp and all has to qualify....
[04 Jan/21:48] <LosQ3> use the fdisk that will come with win98
[04 Jan/21:48] <CJ^> otherwise..  think we would have a big uproar...
[04 Jan/21:48] <LosQ3> or make one from the disk before wiping your system
[04 Jan/21:48] <Gdubya> ahh I see
[04 Jan/21:48] <LosQ3> win98 boot disk has cdrom support...make sure it works for you
[04 Jan/21:48] <LosQ3> then just wipe the disk and install it
[04 Jan/21:49] <Gdubya> I have an hp 166 and everytime a file is corrupted I have to use the Edisk and it loads all that crap on my puter
[04 Jan/21:49] <Gdubya> then I have to clean it all out.. enough is enough
[04 Jan/21:50] <Gdubya> ok now all I have to do is find a good price
[04 Jan/21:50] <LosQ3> try price club/costco
[04 Jan/21:50] <LosQ3> or search on the web
[04 Jan/21:50] <LosQ3> pricewatch.com
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[04 Jan/21:51] @ mode #win98 [+v Tickles] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[04 Jan/21:51] <Gdubya> I see one place that has it for $43.00 is that real?
[04 Jan/21:52] @ mode #win98 [+b *!*tickles@*.co.nz] by Aphrodite!pegasys@tigerrose.grateful.org
[04 Jan/21:52] < Tickles!tickles@210-55-161-218.ipnets.xtra.co.nz was kicked off #win98 by Aphrodite!pegasys@tigerrose.grateful.org (evading)
[04 Jan/21:52] <Gdubya> how can that be so cheap?
[04 Jan/21:52] <CJ^> might be....
[04 Jan/21:52] <CJ^> $89 for OEM... which is NOT  the OEM your thinking of.. or have...
[04 Jan/21:52] <CJ^> OME if you build a new system..
[04 Jan/21:52] <CJ^> or buy certain parts
[04 Jan/21:53] @ mode #win98 [+b *!*@*dialup.xtra.co.nz] by Aphrodite!pegasys@tigerrose.grateful.org
[04 Jan/21:53] <pyrokiwi> no pls dont do that
[04 Jan/21:53] <pyrokiwi> who is banning xtra?
[04 Jan/21:53] <Gdubya> http://AutomatedDistributing.com/
[04 Jan/21:53] <LosQ3> `op
[04 Jan/21:53] @ mode #win98 [+o LosQ3] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[04 Jan/21:54] @ mode #win98 [-b *!*@*dialup.xtra.co.nz] by LosQ3!~husky21@user-33qtim2.dialup.mindspring.com
[04 Jan/21:54] <pyrokiwi> phew :)
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[04 Jan/21:54] <pyrokiwi> y did that happen?
[04 Jan/21:54] @ mode #win98 [+b *!*@*.dialup.xtra.co.nz] by Aphrodite!pegasys@tigerrose.grateful.org
[04 Jan/21:54] <pyrokiwi> noo
[04 Jan/21:54] <CJ^> something aint kosher about that site....
[04 Jan/21:54] <Gdubya> what's this mean? Windows 98 End User
[04 Jan/21:54] <Gdubya>                              License Agreement and
[04 Jan/21:54] <Gdubya>                              Manual for 1st or 2nd
[04 Jan/21:54] <Gdubya>                              edition Win98
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[04 Jan/21:56] <lat_guy> hey
[04 Jan/21:56] <pyrokiwi> hiya
[04 Jan/21:57] <lat_guy> do you know much about VPN?
[04 Jan/21:57] <lat_guy> or NT server time services?
[04 Jan/21:57] <lat_guy> the NT rooms are all dead
[04 Jan/21:57] <pyrokiwi> nt this is win98 channel
[04 Jan/21:57] <pyrokiwi> is it our problem if no1 suports nt but if u are lucky LosQ3 or CJ^ may help ya
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[04 Jan/21:58] <lat_guy> are they awake?
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[04 Jan/21:59] <LosQ3> doh gotta hate when that happens hahahha
[04 Jan/21:59] <lat_guy> he he
[04 Jan/21:59] <pyrokiwi> lol yeh
[04 Jan/21:59] <pyrokiwi> LosQ3 u gonna help lat_guy with nt or ?
[04 Jan/21:59] <lat_guy> so los, care to share some knowledge?
[04 Jan/22:00] * LosQ3 dont do NT
[04 Jan/22:00] <lat_guy> I'm interested in VPN and time services
[04 Jan/22:00] <lat_guy> ok
[04 Jan/22:00] <lat_guy> i bought the win98 resource kit yesterday
[04 Jan/22:00] <lat_guy> that's one thick bastard
[04 Jan/22:00] <lat_guy> made my wallet skinny though
[04 Jan/22:01] <pyrokiwi> hmmm CJ^ u there or do nt ?
[04 Jan/22:01] <lat_guy> pyrokiwi, i could use an agent, thanks
[04 Jan/22:01] <CJ^> yes
[04 Jan/22:01] <CJ^> im here...
[04 Jan/22:01] <pyrokiwi> u do nt>?
[04 Jan/22:02] [pyrokiwi> Azmodan u there?
[04 Jan/22:02] <pyrokiwi> and if so ya do nt?
[04 Jan/22:03] * LosQ3 dont do NT at all
[04 Jan/22:03] * pyrokiwi has never used nt so he DEf cant help
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[04 Jan/22:05] @ mode #win98 [+v CJ^] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
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[04 Jan/22:06] <ryanste^n> anyone know how to add hardware in win98 without letting windows autodetect it?
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[04 Jan/22:06] <pyrokiwi> yeh
[04 Jan/22:06] <pyrokiwi> click on add new hardware
[04 Jan/22:06] <CJ^> you ahve to let windows detect it...
[04 Jan/22:06] <pyrokiwi> then uncheck the box let windows detect my hardware
[04 Jan/22:07] <LosQ3> hmm you can turn off hardware detection I think.....
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[04 Jan/22:11] <ryanste^n> pyrokiwi: that's only in win95
[04 Jan/22:12] <pyrokiwi> hmmm
[04 Jan/22:12] <pyrokiwi> it is just a minute
[04 Jan/22:12] <CJ^> no.. he was right .. sorta..
[04 Jan/22:13] <CJ^> see  win98 checks first....
[04 Jan/22:13] <CJ^> then you can have it search for hardwre  or  not search and add your onw..
[04 Jan/22:13] <CJ^> but   why do you need this?
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[04 Jan/22:14] * pyrokiwi almost faints as CJ^ says he was right sorta
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[04 Jan/22:15] <LosQ3> nite
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[04 Jan/22:17] <ryanste^n> CJ^: well win98 crashes when it's scanning for my scsi card.
[04 Jan/22:17] <pyrokiwi> ahha
[04 Jan/22:17] <pyrokiwi> i see
[04 Jan/22:18] <CJ^> what scsi card?
[04 Jan/22:20] <ryanste^n> adaptec 1505
[04 Jan/22:20] <ryanste^n> isa pnp
[04 Jan/22:20] <pyrokiwi> fraind i never used scsi b4
[04 Jan/22:21] <CJ^> ok.. and it came witht eh scanner i imagine?
[04 Jan/22:21] <ryanste^n> cd-r
[04 Jan/22:21] <CJ^> cd-r  ok
[04 Jan/22:21] <CJ^> which brand of cd-r?
[04 Jan/22:21] <pyrokiwi> and CJ^ is is not good card ?
[04 Jan/22:22] <CJ^> it is..
[04 Jan/22:22] <ryanste^n> I reinstalled win09 over an old breaking ver of win98 and everything was detected except that.
[04 Jan/22:22] <CJ^> its a cmoon card with cd-r and scanners..
[04 Jan/22:22] <ryanste^n> smart and friendly.
[04 Jan/22:22] <CJ^> ok...
[04 Jan/22:23] <CJ^> http://www.smartandfriendly.com/tech/safsupport/installation/scsi2install.htm   <<< did you follow these instructions?
[04 Jan/22:23] <CJ^> you have conflict..
[04 Jan/22:24] <CJ^> and ya need to change the jumpers on the card...
[04 Jan/22:26] <ryanste^n> no conflict
[04 Jan/22:28] <CJ^> how do ya know?
[04 Jan/22:28] <CJ^> S&F's site does show that thats a possibllity
[04 Jan/22:28] <ryanste^n> cos I checked the resources.
[04 Jan/22:29] <CJ^> and a crash during detection indicates that as well...
[04 Jan/22:29] <ryanste^n> it's been installed heaps of times, but I've never had the problem where windows doesn't see it at all.
[04 Jan/22:29] < SignOff: ryanste^n!Hahahehe@rms.static.star.net.nz (reboot)
[04 Jan/22:30] <CJ^> :P
[04 Jan/22:30] <CJ^> geee this time  it may be conficting...:PPPPPP
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[04 Jan/22:32] @ mode #win98 [+v PsiCo] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[04 Jan/22:33] <PsiCo> anyone know the command in DOS for making a HDD a system disk?
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[04 Jan/22:34] <Cue_Ball> could some help me set my email up
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[04 Jan/22:46] @ mode #win98 [+v DaDsMoOtH] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[04 Jan/22:47] <DaDsMoOtH> If i were to give the long complicated message from a blue screen of death in windows 98...would someone be able to tell me what it means?
[04 Jan/22:48] <pyrokiwi> possibly if u are very lucky
[04 Jan/22:48] <DaDsMoOtH> haha
[04 Jan/22:48] <DaDsMoOtH> ok
[04 Jan/22:48] <DaDsMoOtH> i'll write it down next time then
[04 Jan/22:48] <pyrokiwi> but more likely if u come back another time when there are brainy guys here
[04 Jan/22:49] <DaDsMoOtH> What is VXD by the way?
[04 Jan/22:49] <DaDsMoOtH> The errors seem to be VXD errors whatever the hell that means.
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[04 Jan/22:49] <ViPeR3000> Hey can anybody tell me where I can find some commands for programming .bat files like @echo off, start ....... etc etc??????
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[04 Jan/22:49] <pyrokiwi> nope :(
[04 Jan/22:49] <ViPeR3000> dang
[04 Jan/22:50] <pyrokiwi> i am just the un brainy guy 
[04 Jan/22:50] <DaDsMoOtH> haha
[04 Jan/22:50] <DaDsMoOtH> thanx pyro
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[04 Jan/22:51] <pyrokiwi> thats ok :)
[04 Jan/22:56] <pyrokiwi> lol i found an error on the ms site
[04 Jan/23:01] <ViPeR3000> Anybody know any programming language where I can make it open my cdrom drive?????? 
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[04 Jan/23:01] <pyrokiwi> lol i hav a program to do that
[04 Jan/23:01] <pyrokiwi> u want it?
[04 Jan/23:02] <ViPeR3000> yeah
[04 Jan/23:02] <ViPeR3000> please
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[04 Jan/23:02] <ViPeR3000> code would be better but o well
[04 Jan/23:02] <pyrokiwi> actually hmm no filrs but this is ok ill just find it
[04 Jan/23:03] <ViPeR3000> k
[04 Jan/23:04] <ViPeR3000> ...
[04 Jan/23:04] <pyrokiwi> damn cant find it sorry
[04 Jan/23:04] <pyrokiwi> but check
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[04 Jan/23:05] <pyrokiwi> www.rjsoftware.com .net .org   www.rj.com etc
[04 Jan/23:05] <pyrokiwi> i am lookin 4 ya
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[04 Jan/23:07] <ViPeR3000> thx
[04 Jan/23:08] <pyrokiwi> it was acttually designed as a aprilfools program
[04 Jan/23:09] <ViPeR3000> huh
[04 Jan/23:09] <ViPeR3000> I only saw a program called clockwise
[04 Jan/23:09] <pyrokiwi> hmm yeh i know i am still lookin
[04 Jan/23:13] <pyrokiwi> hey i think i found it wait up a minute
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[04 Jan/23:14] <pyrokiwi> http://www.rjlsoftware.com/software/entertainment/default.shtml go there
[04 Jan/23:15] <ViPeR3000> nope
[04 Jan/23:16] <pyrokiwi> there is a program there which is openclise cd
[04 Jan/23:16] <pyrokiwi> if ya want to get it go there if not tought luck
[04 Jan/23:16] <ViPeR3000> nevermind thanx found it
[04 Jan/23:16] <pyrokiwi> :)
[04 Jan/23:16] <pyrokiwi> it is a kewl site anyway :)
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[05 Jan/00:08] <vulcan_> ci
[05 Jan/00:08] <vulcan_> vulcan
[05 Jan/00:08] <vulcan_> allo
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[05 Jan/03:19] <^^Cindy^^> Morning
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[05 Jan/03:24] <^^Cindy^^> is anyone here?
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[05 Jan/04:24] @ mode #win98 [+v Squall14] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[05 Jan/04:25] <Squall14> anybody know where to download the lastest ver. of DirectX Media?
[05 Jan/04:25] <Squall14> please help me.
[05 Jan/04:27] <Squall14> ...
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[05 Jan/04:42] <Remy> hi
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[05 Jan/04:44] <splittx> i neen help
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[05 Jan/04:44] <splittx> is someone in here?
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[05 Jan/04:45] <Remy> yes
[05 Jan/04:45] <splittx> ok good
[05 Jan/04:46] <splittx> ok i have a program that ask for the file winsck.ocx ...well i got the file and put it in the dir. but the program still asks for the file...
[05 Jan/04:47] <WarnBufet> reboot and reinstall the proggy for starters
[05 Jan/04:47] <splittx> i've done that mill of times...
[05 Jan/04:47] <splittx> i've even placed the ocx file in windows/system dir
[05 Jan/04:49] <splittx> any other suggestions?
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[05 Jan/05:01] @ mode #win98 [+v krik] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[05 Jan/05:02] <krik> HI there 
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[05 Jan/06:10] <Aegis> Can WinNT read Fat32 file systems?
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[05 Jan/06:39] <LadySheba> hello anyone here?
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[05 Jan/07:08] <esteem> can someone tell me how to unintsall win200?
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[05 Jan/07:10] <Wez4> get Ontrack Disk Manager from the IBM harddrive site and wipe your drive......
[05 Jan/07:11] <esteem> is it the only way
[05 Jan/07:11] <esteem> ?
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[05 Jan/08:13] <harb> hello
[05 Jan/08:13] @ mode #win98 [+v harb] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[05 Jan/08:13] <harb> is anyone helping
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[05 Jan/08:16] <fhx> can someone please help me?
[05 Jan/08:17] <fhx> neither of the cd recording programs recognize my cdr
[05 Jan/08:17] <fhx> just the one that comes along with the cdr
[05 Jan/08:18] <fhx> and i always get buffer problems when i record with it
[05 Jan/08:20] ! fhx is known as Lagwagon`
[05 Jan/08:23] <Lagwagon`> thanks
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[05 Jan/08:25] <Kee|y`> hi
[05 Jan/08:25] <Big`Ed> hi
[05 Jan/08:26] <Kee|y`> is anyone here familair with a program called magic folders?
[05 Jan/08:26] <Big`Ed> never heard of it
[05 Jan/08:26] <Kee|y`> k
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[05 Jan/08:33] <Big`Ed> z
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[05 Jan/08:36] <jeper> does ne of you know if it is possible to connect 4 webcams to one pc and still get pictures from all of them
[05 Jan/08:36] <Big`Ed> anything is possible with the right dollars
[05 Jan/08:36] <jeper> i know taht 
[05 Jan/08:36] <jeper> but if i dont have the kind of money 
[05 Jan/08:37] <Big`Ed> but the cheaper you go, the harder it would be to do that
[05 Jan/08:37] <Big`Ed> ie. a standard $100 camera and basic win98
[05 Jan/08:37] <Big`Ed> it depends on the 'software' you are going to use to do it with
[05 Jan/08:37] <jeper> if we are talking tht kind of money it is no problem
[05 Jan/08:37] <Big`Ed> if it supports multiple inputs
[05 Jan/08:38] <Big`Ed> or if you have to run multiple instances of it
[05 Jan/08:38] <Big`Ed> that is where the money comes in
[05 Jan/08:38] <jeper> u know where to buy software like that 
[05 Jan/08:39] <Big`Ed> no - i have only messed with a single web cam software app
[05 Jan/08:39] <Big`Ed> that came with my camera
[05 Jan/08:39] <Big`Ed> but with scsi or usb you should be able to get 4 cameras functional at the same time on your PC
[05 Jan/08:40] <Big`Ed> i know i have 2 on mine that both work
[05 Jan/08:40] <jeper> cool 
[05 Jan/08:40] <jeper> thanks a lot 
[05 Jan/08:40] <Big`Ed> okies
[05 Jan/08:40] <Big`Ed> 3d porno cam's eh?
[05 Jan/08:41] <jeper> nope 
[05 Jan/08:41] <jeper> security 
[05 Jan/08:41] <Big`Ed> there is prob some security software that will 'frame' multiple inputs 
[05 Jan/08:41] <Big`Ed> into single signal
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[05 Jan/08:42] <Big`Ed> prob a $500 add on card
[05 Jan/08:42] <jeper> ill try look for on the net 
[05 Jan/08:42] <jeper> thanks a lot for you help 
[05 Jan/08:45] <Big`Ed> okies
[05 Jan/08:48] <Big`Ed> azer
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[05 Jan/09:20] <Wez4> mornin, dude....
[05 Jan/09:20] <walkndude> hello..how goes it?
[05 Jan/09:21] <Wez4> excellent, er at least ok, anyway...
[05 Jan/09:21] <Wez4> the translucent util has become a request item...
[05 Jan/09:21] <Wez4> everyone who sees it wants it....
[05 Jan/09:21] <Wez4> thx!
[05 Jan/09:22] <walkndude> the icons thing?
[05 Jan/09:22] <Wez4> yeah]
[05 Jan/09:23] <walkndude> tough down here going back to work and all
[05 Jan/09:23] <walkndude> you have any y2k problems up there?
[05 Jan/09:25] <Wez4> eh, paul's keyboard quit working on saturday
[05 Jan/09:25] <walkndude> really
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[05 Jan/09:26] <Wez4> yeah, a no name "ergonomic" thing..... just stopped dead...
[05 Jan/09:26] <walkndude> my mother-in-law pc clock went back to 1980
[05 Jan/09:27] <walkndude> ran a fix for the bios and all went ok then
[05 Jan/09:28] <Wez4> hmmmm
[05 Jan/09:28] <walkndude> so far
[05 Jan/09:29] <walkndude> other than that not much new on my end, glad I didn't bet on the bowl games
[05 Jan/09:30] <walkndude> I only picked two bowls right
[05 Jan/09:30] <Wez4> hehe i hear they werent all that predictable...
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[05 Jan/09:31] <Wez4> well well... the two meet at last....
[05 Jan/09:31] <walkndude> hey whizd
[05 Jan/09:31] <Gdubya> hi
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[05 Jan/09:31] <fghf> hi
[05 Jan/09:31] @ mode #win98 [+v Mr_Magnet] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[05 Jan/09:31] <Gdubya> anyone running win98 oem?
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[05 Jan/09:32] <whizd> hey
[05 Jan/09:32] <fghf> n you pls tell me windows id number for installing win98
[05 Jan/09:32] <fghf> can you pls tell me windows id number for installing win98
[05 Jan/09:33] <whizd> Hey wez
[05 Jan/09:33] <Wez4> :)
[05 Jan/09:33] <walkndude> did you see the topic fghf?
[05 Jan/09:34] <Gdubya> anyone running win98 oem?
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[05 Jan/09:34] <Gdubya> think $66 is a good price for win98?
[05 Jan/09:35] <Jessica^> hi everyone, I have a question that is not really related to win98, does anyone know where I can get a good e-mail notifier from?
[05 Jan/09:36] <Gdubya> netscape has one, but you have to leave the browser open
[05 Jan/09:36] <walkndude> seems like a fair price
[05 Jan/09:37] <Gdubya> it's a OEM
[05 Jan/09:37] <Gdubya> version
[05 Jan/09:37] <Jessica^> yes i know..but I am looking for a more dynamic one. One with sounds and images when new mail arrives
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[05 Jan/09:37] <Gdubya> have you looked at tucows?
[05 Jan/09:37] <S_A_U_L_O> anyone hava the sereal number... win98!?
[05 Jan/09:38] <Gdubya> sauko er that's ilegal
[05 Jan/09:38] <Jessica^> yes
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[05 Jan/09:38] <whizd> Is that something you eat?
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[05 Jan/09:38] <S_A_U_L_O> please i need! my friend have problems...
[05 Jan/09:39] <walkndude> `op
[05 Jan/09:39] <Gdubya> how about winfile.com?
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[05 Jan/09:39] <Jessica^> that too :)
[05 Jan/09:39] <Jessica^> I am looking for something that will display an image on my screen should a new message arrive
[05 Jan/09:39] <Gdubya> how did he get win98 without a serial #?
[05 Jan/09:40] <walkndude> SAULO...read the topic
[05 Jan/09:40] <Jessica^> but there is very little out there
[05 Jan/09:40] <S_A_U_L_O> okz...
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[05 Jan/09:42] <Gdubya> saulo even if you have win on the drive doesn't mean you can use just any seriel #
[05 Jan/09:42] <Wez4> aaakkk, brb
[05 Jan/09:42] <S_A_U_L_O> o know that... but i'll try
[05 Jan/09:42] <Gdubya> if he actually bought it he can call the company who makes the puter or call ms to get the #
[05 Jan/09:43] <Gdubya> that's one reson why you register the program :)
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[05 Jan/10:57] <mrgone> yuup
[05 Jan/10:57] <mrgone> im on that server
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[05 Jan/11:02] <MUTU> that's what my manufacturer did
[05 Jan/11:02] <CJ^> then use that..
[05 Jan/11:02] <MUTU> lol but i think it's corrupted
[05 Jan/11:02] <CJ^> then your SOL...
[05 Jan/11:02] <MUTU> \content is corrupted well and good
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[05 Jan/11:04] <Dell500> can someone tell me how to MS Outlook, not express, to use for messageboards
[05 Jan/11:04] <CJ^> Dell5400  Outlook doesnt work with Newsgroups
[05 Jan/11:04] <CJ^> Outlook Express does..
[05 Jan/11:04] <walkndude> Wez..have you bought any memory lately
[05 Jan/11:04] <Dell500> ohh ok
[05 Jan/11:05] <MUTU> hi dell
[05 Jan/11:05] <MUTU> remember me?
[05 Jan/11:05] <Dell500> howdy
[05 Jan/11:05] <Dell500> no
[05 Jan/11:05] <CJ^> MUTU  dont bug the customers...
[05 Jan/11:05] <Dell500> no
[05 Jan/11:05] <Dell500> i wanna know
[05 Jan/11:05] <MUTU> lol maybe i got the wrong person, but were u asking questions in #mircscripts once?
[05 Jan/11:05] <Dell500> lol
[05 Jan/11:05] <Dell500> ya
[05 Jan/11:06] <Dell500> whats a good newsgroup handler??
[05 Jan/11:06] <Dell500> besides outlook express
[05 Jan/11:06] <CJ^> OE works fine...  ya already have it....
[05 Jan/11:06] <walkndude> Agent?
[05 Jan/11:06] <CJ^> ok
[05 Jan/11:06] <CJ^> try download.com
[05 Jan/11:06] <MUTU> did you find a good flood protection?
[05 Jan/11:06] <CJ^> or Netscape commmunicator...
[05 Jan/11:07] <MUTU> hmmm about 93%, no corruptions yet i think, or do you get to know at the end?
[05 Jan/11:08] <MUTU> yipee no corruptions :)
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[05 Jan/11:11] <l00dD00d> i installed some software and then i got this weird error everytime i start up on my desktop
[05 Jan/11:11] <l00dD00d> i have a picture if anyone would like to take a look?
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[05 Jan/11:11] <walkndude> a Pic?
[05 Jan/11:11] <CJ^> nope
[05 Jan/11:11] <walkndude> where's Ed
[05 Jan/11:12] <CJ^> not here...
[05 Jan/11:12] <MUTU> screenshot u mean?
[05 Jan/11:13] <CJ^> whats the error you get?
[05 Jan/11:13] <l00dD00d> ya screenshot
[05 Jan/11:13] <l00dD00d> it doesn't tell me an errot
[05 Jan/11:13] <l00dD00d> error
[05 Jan/11:13] <l00dD00d> there is this white box on my desktop
[05 Jan/11:13] <l00dD00d> that doesn't go away
[05 Jan/11:13] <CJ^> then what does it say?
[05 Jan/11:14] <CJ^> ok.. what did you install?
[05 Jan/11:14] <l00dD00d> it has some half drawn windows with close boxes that don't work
[05 Jan/11:14] <l00dD00d> i'll dcc you the picif you like.
[05 Jan/11:14] <CJ^> no..
[05 Jan/11:14] <CJ^> just tell me what you installed...
[05 Jan/11:14] <l00dD00d> a game
[05 Jan/11:14] <l00dD00d> civilization: call to power
[05 Jan/11:15] <CJ^> what game???????????????/
[05 Jan/11:15] <l00dD00d> then i unistalled it.
[05 Jan/11:15] <CJ^> ok..
[05 Jan/11:15] <l00dD00d> cuz it was lame.
[05 Jan/11:15] <walkndude> you run SFC yet?
[05 Jan/11:15] <l00dD00d> sfc?
[05 Jan/11:15] <CJ^> one of the top games of the year too heh
[05 Jan/11:15] <MUTU> system file checker :)
[05 Jan/11:15] <walkndude> start/run sfc
[05 Jan/11:15] <MUTU> i have the very first civilisation version
[05 Jan/11:16] <MUTU> God knows how many hours i had spent on that
[05 Jan/11:16] <l00dD00d> i'd rather play brood war
[05 Jan/11:16] <l00dD00d> or q3 ;)
[05 Jan/11:16] <MUTU> i don't play much
[05 Jan/11:16] <l00dD00d> i don't have sfc
[05 Jan/11:16] <l00dD00d> i got scandisk, but i ran that already.
[05 Jan/11:17] <CJ^> yes you do
[05 Jan/11:17] <CJ^> click start
[05 Jan/11:17] <CJ^> then run
[05 Jan/11:17] <l00dD00d> where is it then?
[05 Jan/11:17] <CJ^> then type SFC in the run box
[05 Jan/11:17] <l00dD00d> thanks :)
[05 Jan/11:17] <l00dD00d> im such an idiot.
[05 Jan/11:17] <l00dD00d> i'll admit it.
[05 Jan/11:17] <l00dD00d> thanks for your help
[05 Jan/11:17] <l00dD00d> i'll see if this work.s
[05 Jan/11:17] <CJ^> np
[05 Jan/11:18] < SignOff: l00dD00d!Gumby@ppp363.wcta.net (thanks again.)
[05 Jan/11:23] <walkndude> been a while since you been in here MUTU
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[05 Jan/11:23] <MUTU> yep
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[05 Jan/11:25] <walkndude> well beans are done, time for dinner
[05 Jan/11:25] <walkndude> later
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[05 Jan/11:26] <MUTU> bye
[05 Jan/11:26] <MUTU> thanks CJ once again
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[05 Jan/11:27] <CJ^> :P
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[05 Jan/11:38] <MUTU> listen
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[05 Jan/11:38] <|mrgone|> oh?
[05 Jan/11:38] <MUTU> can ne1 tell me what happened on 4th January 1980?
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[05 Jan/11:38] <MUTU> was DOS born or what?
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[05 Jan/11:41] <l00dD00d> welp, that didn't work.
[05 Jan/11:42] <l00dD00d> do i have to reinstall windows?
[05 Jan/11:42] <CJ^> might wanna try activisions site for help
[05 Jan/11:42] <CJ^> no..
[05 Jan/11:42] <CJ^> you dont have to re-install windows...
[05 Jan/11:42] <CJ^> but since CIV CTP did it..
[05 Jan/11:42] <CJ^> i would look at Activisions site for info...
[05 Jan/11:42] <CJ^> and check your start up folder
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[05 Jan/11:42] <CJ^> start>run>msconfig
[05 Jan/11:42] <CJ^> and look in there for anythgint hats starting up thats nto supposed to
[05 Jan/11:43] <l00dD00d> eh
[05 Jan/11:43] <l00dD00d> i couldn't spot it if i tried.
[05 Jan/11:45] <CJ^> well..
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[05 Jan/11:46] <CJ^> in msconfig..
[05 Jan/11:46] @ mode #win98 [+v FultarX] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[05 Jan/11:46] <CJ^> you have the start up options..
[05 Jan/11:46] <FultarX> yo CJ
[05 Jan/11:46] <CJ^> in there look for anythign that has a pth that may point to CIV CTP...
[05 Jan/11:46] <CJ^> and uncheck it...
[05 Jan/11:46] <CJ^> easy engough really...
[05 Jan/11:46] <FultarX> I was the guy who was having problems with my Asus K7M board last weekend...
[05 Jan/11:46] <FultarX> I had the SUWIN problems...
[05 Jan/11:47] <FultarX> talked to the guy who sold me the board...and (by the way I did send it back anyways) they said that was due to memory problems....ever heard of it??
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[05 Jan/11:47] <l00dD00d> weird.
[05 Jan/11:47] <CJ^> yeap..
[05 Jan/11:47] <CJ^> that was some of the problems posted at Deja.com
[05 Jan/11:47] <l00dD00d> it says it not for use with DVD-ROM
[05 Jan/11:48] <CJ^> overheating and memory CPU issues...
[05 Jan/11:48] <CJ^> HENCE why i wont go with them just yet..
[05 Jan/11:48] <l00dD00d> ah i see.
[05 Jan/11:48] <CJ^> the boards are all very finicky...
[05 Jan/11:48] <CJ^> seems to me... he didnt test it like ya said
[05 Jan/11:48] <l00dD00d> ok
[05 Jan/11:48] <l00dD00d> i have a dvd-rom
[05 Jan/11:48] <l00dD00d> and it says its not for use with a dvd
[05 Jan/11:48] <CJ^> heck.. even the Intel PIII coppermines are being hell...
[05 Jan/11:48] <l00dD00d> could that cause it?
[05 Jan/11:49] <CJ^> could l00d  could...
[05 Jan/11:49] <l00dD00d> it doens't seem logical though.
[05 Jan/11:49] <CJ^> i tned to use CDrom  and DVD together...
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[05 Jan/11:49] <GooDoo> hi
[05 Jan/11:49] <GooDoo> is it possible to get the fade effect goin on Win98?
[05 Jan/11:49] <CJ^> DVD alone is not always a good idea...
[05 Jan/11:49] @ mode #win98 [+v GooDoo] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[05 Jan/11:49] <FultarX> that is where you went to look
[05 Jan/11:49] <FultarX> deja.com??
[05 Jan/11:49] <CJ^> yes FultarX  told ya that too....
[05 Jan/11:49] <CJ^> nesgroups are very helpful..
[05 Jan/11:49] <FultarX> thanks
[05 Jan/11:50] <CJ^> event eh hardware review sites point out the same issues...
[05 Jan/11:50] <CJ^> fade effect Goo?
[05 Jan/11:50] <l00dD00d> im gonna have to reinstall windows
[05 Jan/11:50] <l00dD00d> i just know it.
[05 Jan/11:50] <CJ^> l00d  i dont think ya will...
[05 Jan/11:51] <l00dD00d> if i reinstall will it keep all my settings that i have now?
[05 Jan/11:51] <l00dD00d> for like DUN and stuff?
[05 Jan/11:51] <GooDoo> CJ^ - its in Windows2000.... i have the final of the OS.... and i got to get rid of it because of my DSL :(.. i really like this fade effect it has
[05 Jan/11:51] <CJ^> if yu take the time to find out what is wrong..  and whats starting up.. you can fix it
[05 Jan/11:51] <l00dD00d> CJ^: look, what else should i try then?
[05 Jan/11:51] <CJ^> this is a start up issue.. so i would look int he start up options/folder
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[05 Jan/11:51] <CJ^> ummm why do you have to dump Win2k if ya have DSL??
[05 Jan/11:52] <CJ^> if you are a beta tester  you have the fianl legal copy....
[05 Jan/11:52] <GooDoo> CJ^ - i do have it leagally
[05 Jan/11:52] <CJ^> right...
[05 Jan/11:52] <CJ^> then why do ya have to dump it for DSL??
[05 Jan/11:52] <CJ^> keep it...
[05 Jan/11:53] <GooDoo> i need to dump it because my DSL is dependant on software that cant be installed on @k
[05 Jan/11:53] <CJ^> thast soo wrong...
[05 Jan/11:53] <GooDoo> my printer also has no NT4 or 2000 driver
[05 Jan/11:53] <CJ^> but win98 doesnt have those features of win2k...
[05 Jan/11:53] <CJ^> odd...
[05 Jan/11:53] <CJ^> no NT 4 drivers??
[05 Jan/11:53] <CJ^> HP right?
[05 Jan/11:53] <GooDoo> and finally, on an illegal note.... I need true DOS to play my SNES emus with sound :P
[05 Jan/11:54] <GooDoo> no Lexmark
[05 Jan/11:54] <CJ^> well cant help ya on teh SNES emu....
[05 Jan/11:54] <GooDoo> hehe
[05 Jan/11:55] <CJ^> hmm.. odd lexmark was a big contributor to win2k....
[05 Jan/11:55] <GooDoo> i know
[05 Jan/11:55] <GooDoo> they have no NT drivers for their Z## series
[05 Jan/11:55] <GooDoo> mine is the Z11
[05 Jan/11:55] <CJ^> ahhh
[05 Jan/11:55] <CJ^> yeah  i hear that...
[05 Jan/11:56] <CJ^> same with teh canon bjc 1000  no drivers...
[05 Jan/11:56] <CJ^> hmm..
[05 Jan/11:56] < SignOff: l00dD00d!Gumby@ppp395.wcta.net (well shit.)
[05 Jan/11:56] <CJ^> well the fade effect.. far as i know  is win2k only....
[05 Jan/11:56] <GooDoo> Windows2000 plays like Win98 and WinNT4 combined... but is alot nicer... but it don't matter, in like 5-6months, i will be test Neptune (: NT6 :)
[05 Jan/11:56] <CJ^> Neptune is starting now..
[05 Jan/11:56] <CJ^> << tryign to get in with that group locally...
[05 Jan/11:56] <CJ^> or Mill..
[05 Jan/11:57] <CJ^> either one...
[05 Jan/11:57] <GooDoo> Mill sucks
[05 Jan/11:58] <GooDoo> im testing it.... DOS is hidden in it, witch limits you to what you can do softwarewise
[05 Jan/11:59] <GooDoo> bye all
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[05 Jan/12:20] <meko> hello.
[05 Jan/12:20] @ mode #win98 [+v meko] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[05 Jan/12:21] <meko> can someone give me a hand?
[05 Jan/12:22] <CJ^> with?
[05 Jan/12:22] <meko> my friend is missing windos.exe, i'm wondering where i can get it
[05 Jan/12:22] <meko> (i don't have it)
[05 Jan/12:22] <CJ^> you dont
[05 Jan/12:22] <CJ^> nor does he
[05 Jan/12:22] <CJ^> its a trojan called Sub7
[05 Jan/12:22] <CJ^> goto  www.deja.com   search for windos.exe
[05 Jan/12:23] <CJ^> it will tell you there in some postings how to remove it..
[05 Jan/12:23] <CJ^> is he running UT?
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[05 Jan/12:23] <meko> he's running win 98 SE
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[05 Jan/12:23] @ mode #win98 [+o Proteus_] by CJ^!~skippy@sdn-ar-004watacoP239.dialsprint.net
[05 Jan/12:23] <CJ^> ok.. but its a backdoor trojan....
[05 Jan/12:23] <CJ^> called Sub7
[05 Jan/12:24] <meko> isn't it a legit file?
[05 Jan/12:24] <CJ^> most ppl are repoting getting it from Unreal Tournament patches
[05 Jan/12:24] <CJ^> no  its nto a legit file.. its trojan... virus...
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[05 Jan/12:24] <meko> this url at microsoft.com gives me a link to windos.exe
[05 Jan/12:24] <meko> http://support.microsoft.com/support/downloads/DP46.ASP
[05 Jan/12:25] <CJ^> its not a legit file
[05 Jan/12:25] <CJ^> WIN98/98SE does nto have it
[05 Jan/12:25] <CJ^> its a trojan...
[05 Jan/12:25] <meko> would you recommend reinstalling windows?
[05 Jan/12:26] <CJ^> no..
[05 Jan/12:26] <CJ^> you dont have to unless you deleted windos.exe and server.exe  you have to remove them  but you have to edit the registry first...
[05 Jan/12:26] <meko> my friend just deleted windos.exe (after using an AV prog)
[05 Jan/12:26] <CJ^> right...  
[05 Jan/12:27] <meko> now he can't do anything :P
[05 Jan/12:27] <Wez4> i dont have it in 98se....
[05 Jan/12:27] <CJ^> well he has to edit his registry...
[05 Jan/12:27] <meko> what does he look for?
[05 Jan/12:27] <CJ^> its not a windows file...
[05 Jan/12:27] <CJ^> meko..
[05 Jan/12:27] <CJ^> deja.com
[05 Jan/12:27] <CJ^> search for windos.exe
[05 Jan/12:27] <meko> ok
[05 Jan/12:27] <meko> hold on
[05 Jan/12:27] <CJ^> there are postings there that tell you how to get rid of it and fix win98
[05 Jan/12:28] <meko> i'll check it out
[05 Jan/12:33] <CJ^> well.. hmm seems teh virus/trojan is coming from a crack for UT....
[05 Jan/12:34] <meko> he sez that's where it came from
[05 Jan/12:34] <meko> he sez also that he can't run ANY apps in windows.. 
[05 Jan/12:35] <meko> ... i found the post.. it sez just to find windos.exe in the registry and delete it.. simple enuf
[05 Jan/12:35] <CJ^> right  thats what it does..
[05 Jan/12:35] <CJ^> and  it his fault for using a crack...
[05 Jan/12:35] <CJ^> well if done wrong...
[05 Jan/12:35] <CJ^> windows will have to be re-installed..
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[05 Jan/12:45] <ERAZOR1> any1 in here?
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[05 Jan/12:45] <ERAZOR1> thnx
[05 Jan/12:45] <CJ^> yeap...
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[05 Jan/12:46] <cdk17> in explorer i cant view details when i try i see no files anyone know why?
[05 Jan/12:46] <CJ^> ?
[05 Jan/12:46] <ERAZOR1> any1 knows how to fix a fat32 partition... the errors are all filenames are currupted, lige the filenames and dirs are made of hearts slashes ... etc, and I cant format it, and fdisk requieres the partitions label, which also is unreadable
[05 Jan/12:47] <CJ^> erazor.. ok  how did that happen??
[05 Jan/12:47] <ERAZOR1> CJ^: dunno, aint my box..
[05 Jan/12:47] <CJ^> you use any software partiton apps?
[05 Jan/12:47] <CJ^> well.. dude  more info...
[05 Jan/12:47] <CJ^> either that  or low level...
[05 Jan/12:47] <ERAZOR1> CJ^: normally I use linux ... so Im ot very good using dos
[05 Jan/12:48] <CJ^> low level format.. with the drives software...
[05 Jan/12:48] <CJ^> like Maxtor Blast...
[05 Jan/12:48] <ERAZOR1> dont think I've got any software for the disk
[05 Jan/12:48] <CJ^> heck.. use FIPS then...
[05 Jan/12:48] <CJ^> well you can download that...
[05 Jan/12:48] <ERAZOR1> where can I get FIPS?
[05 Jan/12:48] <CJ^> FIPS?  usually most Linux distros have that on the cd
[05 Jan/12:49] <CJ^> www.bootdisk.com has some formatting tools as well...
[05 Jan/12:49] <ERAZOR1> well... Im not sitting by the computer, a friend of mine is on the phone and Im just trying to help him out
[05 Jan/12:50] <ERAZOR1> so.. any ideas how to fix this?
[05 Jan/12:50] <cdk17> in explorer i cant view details when i try i see no files anyone know why?
[05 Jan/12:52] <CJ^> well ask him what he installed...
[05 Jan/12:52] <CJ^> it might be a third party app
[05 Jan/12:52] <CJ^> cdk   what do you mena yo see no files?
[05 Jan/12:53] <CJ^> or  when you try to see no files?  i dont understand that
[05 Jan/12:54] <cdk17> I can view files in a directory under list mode but when i switch to detail mode it shows nothing in the right pane
[05 Jan/12:55] <cdk17> when i try to view details right pane in explorer is blank
[05 Jan/12:55] <CJ^> under what directory???
[05 Jan/12:55] <cdk17> and i really dont want to reinstall windows but thats all i have left to try
[05 Jan/12:55] <cdk17> every directory
[05 Jan/12:55] <CJ^> cause if you have View as Web Page on  it may act that way
[05 Jan/12:55] <cdk17> nope
[05 Jan/12:56] <cdk17> doesnt matter if view as web page is on or off
[05 Jan/12:56] <cdk17> its strange
[05 Jan/12:56] <CJ^> yes  very strange...
[05 Jan/12:56] <CJ^> when did this all start happening
[05 Jan/12:57] <cdk17> not after any software installs either...
[05 Jan/12:57] <CJ^> so  its always ben this way?
[05 Jan/12:57] <cdk17> it was several months ago i have just dealt with it
[05 Jan/12:57] <CJ^> what?
[05 Jan/12:57] <CJ^> dude.. no way...
[05 Jan/12:57] <CJ^> ok..
[05 Jan/12:57] <cdk17> its crazy
[05 Jan/12:57] <CJ^> is this a built computer??
[05 Jan/12:57] <cdk17> of course
[05 Jan/12:57] <CJ^> or a brand name?
[05 Jan/12:58] <CJ^> ok  so you built it?
[05 Jan/12:58] <cdk17> ya
[05 Jan/12:58] <CJ^> well.. SOMEHTING you installed may have done this..
[05 Jan/12:58] <CJ^> but being its been several months.. you may not have even realised it
[05 Jan/12:58] <cdk17> the only thing i can think of is someone got in my system through a proggie like backorfice a while back and maybe he screwed with the registry
[05 Jan/12:58] <CJ^> duh
[05 Jan/12:58] <CJ^> hello..
[05 Jan/12:59] <CJ^> yeah  that may have very well have done that...
[05 Jan/12:59] <CJ^> and if yer registry is screwed up...
[05 Jan/12:59] <CJ^> either  fix that.. OR
[05 Jan/12:59] <cdk17> reintsall:)
[05 Jan/12:59] <CJ^> fdisk and re-install from scratch...
[05 Jan/12:59] <CJ^> yeap
[05 Jan/12:59] <cdk17> ya you dont know of any reg setting for file details do you?
[05 Jan/13:01] <CJ^> nope.. i dont know what key was altered  or what was removed...
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[05 Jan/13:01] <CJ^> BO is a nightmare...
[05 Jan/13:01] <cdk17> uh huh
[05 Jan/13:01] <CJ^> hence why we never allow files sent in here nor do i ever accept any files..:P
[05 Jan/13:02] <cdk17> im messing around with registry under explorer key maybe ill get lucky
[05 Jan/13:02] <CJ^> now
[05 Jan/13:02] <CJ^> ya can try searching in  deja.com
[05 Jan/13:02] <CJ^> maybe someone else has had this happen..
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[05 Jan/13:03] <cdk17> hehe i made attributes appear in view but still no files
[05 Jan/13:03] <a^l^l^a^n> would somebody PLEASE send me ordinary command.com?
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[05 Jan/13:03] <CJ^> no a^l^l^a^n  no files...
[05 Jan/13:04] <a^l^l^a^n> arg
[05 Jan/13:04] <CJ^> you have it yourself...
[05 Jan/13:04] <Spidy^^> anyone answer a simple comp question for me
[05 Jan/13:04] <a^l^l^a^n> no, i use win2k
[05 Jan/13:04] <CJ^> unles you need another version of command.com  <<
[05 Jan/13:04] <a^l^l^a^n> and need to format in dos to use fdisk
[05 Jan/13:04] <cdk17> dont you have a dos boot disk?
[05 Jan/13:04] <CJ^> where is your win988 boot disk?
[05 Jan/13:04] <CJ^> er win98
[05 Jan/13:04] <a^l^l^a^n> so I can convert to fat32 and install win98 again
[05 Jan/13:04] <a^l^l^a^n> gone
[05 Jan/13:05] <CJ^> ?
[05 Jan/13:05] <CJ^> you made the drives NTFS?
[05 Jan/13:05] <cdk17> well you have net access obvisouly, there is a website that has different versions of old dos files dont remember the link
[05 Jan/13:05] <a^l^l^a^n> heh
[05 Jan/13:06] <Spidy^^> is it a good idea to compress a drive??
[05 Jan/13:06] <a^l^l^a^n> not compressed
[05 Jan/13:06] <a^l^l^a^n> its ntfs
[05 Jan/13:06] <CJ^> Spidy  i dont use drive compression
[05 Jan/13:06] <CJ^> soem ppl have good luck with it..
[05 Jan/13:06] <CJ^> others dont...
[05 Jan/13:06] <Spidy^^> hmmm  ok..so if i dont need to dont do it
[05 Jan/13:06] <CJ^> right
[05 Jan/13:06] <Spidy^^> ok thanx
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[05 Jan/13:07] <CJ^> a^l^l^a^n  got a friend with 98?
[05 Jan/13:07] <CJ^> if so..
[05 Jan/13:07] <CJ^> get a boot disk from him
[05 Jan/13:07] <CJ^> or make one with his system....
[05 Jan/13:07] <meko> yo CJ i found what i was lookin for.. thanks man
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[05 Jan/13:08] <a^l^l^a^n> hmm.... found command.com at ftpsearch, so thanx for nothing
[05 Jan/13:09] <cdk17> i know files are against the rules but will someone plz send me or tell me their HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced 
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[05 Jan/13:09] <a^l^l^a^n> hehe
[05 Jan/13:10] <a^l^l^a^n> thats what I call abuse of power
[05 Jan/13:10] <CJ^> no
[05 Jan/13:10] <a^l^l^a^n> yes, thats what I call it
[05 Jan/13:10] <CJ^> look.. we dont send files..
[05 Jan/13:11] <CJ^> we help those we can..
[05 Jan/13:11] <CJ^> and if YOU were stupid enough not to have a boot disk on hand.. its nto our fault...
[05 Jan/13:12] <a^l^l^a^n> maybe its not your fault, no, and maybe YOU don't send command.com, well u'll stop others from it too?
[05 Jan/13:12] <CJ^> yes   
[05 Jan/13:12] <CJ^> thats the channel rules..
[05 Jan/13:12] <CJ^> dont send files..
[05 Jan/13:13] <CJ^> NOW  if your sending files  and i dont know about.. i cant do much about it...
[05 Jan/13:13] <CJ^> but if you offer in channel  as an OP  i have to sstop that...
[05 Jan/13:13] <CJ^> thats teh channel rules..
[05 Jan/13:13] <a^l^l^a^n> strange rules, if it were warez, well I would have understood it, but command.com is free to distribute...
[05 Jan/13:14] <CJ^> no
[05 Jan/13:14] <CJ^> actually its not
[05 Jan/13:14] <a^l^l^a^n> and what is the purpose of the channel if not to help?
[05 Jan/13:14] <CJ^> its still MS property....
[05 Jan/13:14] <CJ^> we can help..
[05 Jan/13:14] <CJ^> but we dont have to send or allow the sending of files..
[05 Jan/13:14] <a^l^l^a^n> property is another thing
[05 Jan/13:14] <CJ^> command.com is nto freely distrubted..
[05 Jan/13:14] <a^l^l^a^n> yeah
[05 Jan/13:14] <CJ^> if it was www.bootdisk.com  would nto have been shut down...
[05 Jan/13:14] <CJ^> now..
[05 Jan/13:14] <CJ^> I agree..
[05 Jan/13:14] <CJ^> a boot disk is no big deal..
[05 Jan/13:15] <CJ^> and bootdisk.com got a raw deal...
[05 Jan/13:15] <CJ^> i dont see whats wwrong with it.. but i have to abide by it...
[05 Jan/13:15] <a^l^l^a^n> yes, and you didn't send any files....
[05 Jan/13:15] <a^l^l^a^n> and I didn't receive any
[05 Jan/13:15] <CJ^> nope  and i wont unless channel rules change...
[05 Jan/13:16] <CJ^> which they wont...
[05 Jan/13:16] <a^l^l^a^n> and so..... thanks for nothing....
[05 Jan/13:16] <CJ^> then  get out....  if ya dont like it....
[05 Jan/13:16] <a^l^l^a^n> hehe... I did'nt say that
[05 Jan/13:17] <CJ^> :P
[05 Jan/13:17] <CJ^> well ya have a problem with the channel rules though....
[05 Jan/13:17] <a^l^l^a^n> but I'll be gone, have a computer to format
[05 Jan/13:17] <a^l^l^a^n> yeah, and thats strange rules, I must say
[05 Jan/13:17] <CJ^> no..
[05 Jan/13:17] <CJ^> its following the law.... thats how the channel creator wants it...
[05 Jan/13:18] <CJ^> the files are intellectual property...
[05 Jan/13:18] <a^l^l^a^n> warez is fine to stop, but files to help people out is strange to stop
[05 Jan/13:18] <CJ^> and are protected by law.. not to be free distrubuted..
[05 Jan/13:18] <CJ^> no... 
[05 Jan/13:18] <CJ^> if i send you that file.. its warez....
[05 Jan/13:18] <CJ^> its not legal to do so...
[05 Jan/13:19] <a^l^l^a^n> heh.... why didn't you tell me about bootdisk.com for starters?
[05 Jan/13:19] <CJ^> if and when MS gets it through there head that some files are OK to distrubute... like a boot disk..  we will do that.
[05 Jan/13:19] <CJ^> well bootdisk.com is down..
[05 Jan/13:19] <CJ^> shutdown by MS...
[05 Jan/13:19] <a^l^l^a^n> nope
[05 Jan/13:19] <a^l^l^a^n> I'm there now
[05 Jan/13:19] <a^l^l^a^n> so it cant be
[05 Jan/13:20] <CJ^> well.. then MS let him keep going..
[05 Jan/13:20] <CJ^> BUT  ti was shutdown no too long ago...
[05 Jan/13:20] <a^l^l^a^n> and I'm downloading a bootdisk also, so that isnt correct
[05 Jan/13:20] <a^l^l^a^n> hmm
[05 Jan/13:21] <CJ^> MS shut down that site not too long ago..
[05 Jan/13:21] <CJ^> and asked him not to distrubte the ms boot disks
[05 Jan/13:21] <CJ^> NOW.. what your seeing on the site now..
[05 Jan/13:21] <CJ^> is nothing compared to what he USED to have...
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[05 Jan/13:22] <a^l^l^a^n> hehe, well... the bootdisks is still there though
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[05 Jan/13:22] <CJ^> not all..
[05 Jan/13:22] <[gW]> can win98 be installed onto an extended partition?
[05 Jan/13:22] <CJ^> and if you notice  they arent MS bootdisks...
[05 Jan/13:23] <CJ^> yes GW  as long as the primamry is a dos/fat16/fat32 
[05 Jan/13:23] <a^l^l^a^n> no, theyre not, they're micro, and command.com is still required
[05 Jan/13:24] <CJ^> a^l^l^a^n  and they arent MS property then  are they?
[05 Jan/13:24] <CJ^> Micron paid for those... so  they can do what they want..
[05 Jan/13:24] <CJ^> and take the heat if MS gives them any....
[05 Jan/13:24] <a^l^l^a^n> well, I didn't ask for ms bootdisk, I asked for command.com
[05 Jan/13:25] <CJ^> ok.. no more arguing...  its channel rules...
[05 Jan/13:25] <[gW]> cj: lets say i have a 13 gig drive, and a 6 gig drive, the 13 gig is gonna have a dual boot of NT/98, but NT needs drive c to be fat16 in order to install NT, so what i was thinking is creating a PRImary of 2 gigs for NT, then an extended for FAT32, and copy the 6 gig drive to the extended, do you know if that would work?
[05 Jan/13:25] <a^l^l^a^n> ok...
[05 Jan/13:25] <CJ^> take it up with Big^ed....
[05 Jan/13:26] <CJ^> yes GW  it will
[05 Jan/13:26] <[gW]> super sweet
[05 Jan/13:26] <CJ^> but  its also recommended to install win98 then NT...
[05 Jan/13:26] <a^l^l^a^n> but, I think if a rule is wrong, it need to be corrected
[05 Jan/13:26] <[gW]> well
[05 Jan/13:27] <[gW]> im gonna install 98 first
[05 Jan/13:27] <a^l^l^a^n> but I'll be gone...
[05 Jan/13:27] <CJ^> no allan...
[05 Jan/13:27] <[gW]> but im just gonna copy it over to the hard drive
[05 Jan/13:27] <CJ^> now  dont liek it  leave...
[05 Jan/13:27] <[gW]> cuz i already have it on my other drive
[05 Jan/13:27] <a^l^l^a^n> and format my machine
[05 Jan/13:27] <CJ^> then go do so...
[05 Jan/13:27] <[gW]> would that still work?
[05 Jan/13:27] <[gW]> and would 98 be able to boot up if i set the partition to active?
[05 Jan/13:28] <a^l^l^a^n> thats another discussion, and people who follow rules without questioning them are stupid...
[05 Jan/13:28] <CJ^> hmm.. you may need to use ghost to copy them over....
[05 Jan/13:28] <CJ^> or  xcopy  
[05 Jan/13:28] <[gW]> but u dont no for sure?
[05 Jan/13:28] <[gW]> ihmmm
[05 Jan/13:28] <CJ^> a re-insatll is a better idea actually..
[05 Jan/13:28] <[gW]> unfortunately a re-install would take forever
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[05 Jan/13:28] <[gW]> because of the software i have
[05 Jan/13:28] <[gW]> so its not really an option
[05 Jan/13:28] <CJ^> hmm.. 20 mins..
[05 Jan/13:28] <[gW]> :(
[05 Jan/13:28] <CJ^> if your system is fast enough....
[05 Jan/13:28] <[gW]> its not the actual OS
[05 Jan/13:28] <[gW]> its the other crap:)
[05 Jan/13:28] <CJ^> all the apps you have installed already?
[05 Jan/13:29] <[gW]> yea
[05 Jan/13:30] <CJ^> well what ya can do is add win98 to the  Winnt loader...
[05 Jan/13:30] <CJ^> www.ntfaq.com
[05 Jan/13:30] <CJ^> but if NT is already installed...
[05 Jan/13:30] <CJ^> why isnt it booting now?
[05 Jan/13:31] <[gW]> well right now
[05 Jan/13:31] <[gW]> only 98 is installed
[05 Jan/13:31] <CJ^> ok..
[05 Jan/13:31] <CJ^> so install NT then...
[05 Jan/13:31] <[gW]> but NT wont install:)
[05 Jan/13:31] <[gW]> hehehe
[05 Jan/13:31] <[gW]> right now i have my primary as fat32
[05 Jan/13:31] <CJ^> the drive is fat32 right now huh?
[05 Jan/13:31] <CJ^> ok..
[05 Jan/13:31] <[gW]> and extended as fat16
[05 Jan/13:31] <CJ^> well PM may help...
[05 Jan/13:31] <[gW]> so if i switch it around, would it work?
[05 Jan/13:31] <[gW]> fat16 on pri
[05 Jan/13:31] <[gW]> fat32 on extended?
[05 Jan/13:31] <[gW]> PM?
[05 Jan/13:31] <CJ^> well you may be ina for a world of hurt doing all that really..
[05 Jan/13:31] <CJ^> partiton magic
[05 Jan/13:32] <[gW]> how would it help?:)
[05 Jan/13:32] <CJ^> cause you can move partitons around..
[05 Jan/13:32] <CJ^> make a fat16 primamry..
[05 Jan/13:32] <CJ^> then fdisk /mbr the primamry
[05 Jan/13:32] <CJ^> or sys c:
[05 Jan/13:32] <CJ^> wiht the win988 boot disk...
[05 Jan/13:32] <CJ^> then install NT...
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[05 Jan/13:36] <[gW]> hmmmm
[05 Jan/13:36] <[gW]> well its not hard to format this disk
[05 Jan/13:36] <[gW]> and copy the stuff back over
[05 Jan/13:38] <[gW]> hmmm
[05 Jan/13:38] <[gW]> only prob is
[05 Jan/13:38] <[gW]> when i copy the stuff to the extended
[05 Jan/13:38] <[gW]> that will be d drive right?
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[05 Jan/13:47] <CJafk> !ed
[05 Jan/13:47] <Big`Ed> AFK - wazup?
[05 Jan/13:48] <Big`Ed> `say
[05 Jan/13:48] <Orbb_222> !ed
[05 Jan/13:48] <Orbb_222> w
[05 Jan/13:48] <Big`Ed> hey
[05 Jan/13:49] <CJafk> nadda
[05 Jan/13:49] <Big`Ed> sent you some email today
[05 Jan/13:49] <CJafk> just here and there...
[05 Jan/13:49] <CJafk> mostly afk though
[05 Jan/13:49] <CJafk> yeah  i saw ...thanks
[05 Jan/13:49] <Big`Ed> `op tribble
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[05 Jan/13:50] <Big`Ed> `op mandy
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[05 Jan/13:50] <[gW]> cj: are you still around?
[05 Jan/13:50] <Big`Ed> he's afk
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[05 Jan/14:49] <Big`Ed> `say
[05 Jan/14:52] <CJafk> say what?
[05 Jan/14:52] ! CJafk is known as CJ^
[05 Jan/14:52] <Big`Ed> `say CJ^ rox
[05 Jan/14:52] <Zeus> CJ^ rox
[05 Jan/14:52] <Aphrodite> CJ^ rox
[05 Jan/14:52] <Vulcan> CJ^ rox
[05 Jan/14:52] <Amsterdam> CJ^ rox
[05 Jan/14:52] <Athena> CJ^ rox
[05 Jan/14:52] <Proteus> CJ^ rox
[05 Jan/14:53] <Amsterdam> CJ^ has rox in his head that is! :{
[05 Jan/14:53] <Big`Ed> hehe
[05 Jan/14:53] <Big`Ed> was it this SLOW all day CJ^?
[05 Jan/14:53] <CJ^> :PPP
[05 Jan/14:53] <CJ^> slow..
[05 Jan/14:54] <CJ^> for a bit..
[05 Jan/14:54] <CJ^> nothign major...
[05 Jan/14:54] <CJ^> one bab
[05 Jan/14:54] <CJ^> er ban
[05 Jan/14:54] <Big`Ed> ban'd a bab
[05 Jan/14:55] <CJ^> banned some kid that complained abotu the rules and how we shoudl allow ppl to send files and all...
[05 Jan/14:56] <Big`Ed> awwww
[05 Jan/14:56] <Big`Ed> poor baby
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[05 Jan/14:58] * LosQ3 banned half of Kiwiland lastnight
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[05 Jan/14:59] <Big`Ed> yikes
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[05 Jan/15:00] @ mode #win98 [+v Big`Ed] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[05 Jan/15:02] <CJ^> :P
[05 Jan/15:05] ! CJ^ is known as CJafk
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[05 Jan/15:15] @ mode #win98 [+v `Muff`] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[05 Jan/15:15] <`Muff`> 'lo all
[05 Jan/15:16] <Big`Ed> hi - hows the slots?
[05 Jan/15:16] <`Muff`> Still coming up bare ;)
[05 Jan/15:17] <Big`Ed> drats - no floss
[05 Jan/15:17] <`Muff`> hehehe
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[05 Jan/15:23] <Big`Ed> wb skippy
[05 Jan/15:23] @ mode #win98 [+v CJ^] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[05 Jan/15:23] <`Muff`> Hola CJ
[05 Jan/15:26] <CJ^> yo
[05 Jan/15:27] <Big`Ed> CJ^ is it true you went to uncle bill's for y2keve
[05 Jan/15:27] <CJ^> ahh E-Themes...:P
[05 Jan/15:27] <CJ^> me?
[05 Jan/15:27] <CJ^> nope
[05 Jan/15:27] <CJ^> slept on the couch
[05 Jan/15:29] <Big`Ed> thats bad - and you didn't have a WIFE to make you do it
[05 Jan/15:32] <CJ^> hehe
[05 Jan/15:32] <CJ^> true
[05 Jan/15:32] <CJ^> but  oh well...
[05 Jan/15:32] <CJ^> saved soem cash...
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[05 Jan/15:36] @ mode #win98 [+v SevensTX] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[05 Jan/15:36] <`Muff`> Hey sevens
[05 Jan/15:36] <SevensTX> hi
[05 Jan/15:37] <Big`Ed> thought there was only 1 texas
[05 Jan/15:37] <SevensTX> we've expanded
[05 Jan/15:37] <Big`Ed> hmm - got a few more steers in town
[05 Jan/15:38] <Big`Ed> hehe
[05 Jan/15:39] ! LosBBIAB is known as LosQ3
[05 Jan/15:39] <CJ^> Los... got a pic for ya to see...
[05 Jan/15:39] <`Muff`> Meaning "I won't be back because I'm playing Quake 3"?
[05 Jan/15:39] <LosQ3> no
[05 Jan/15:40] <`Muff`> hehe
[05 Jan/15:40] <CJ^> bum...
[05 Jan/15:40] <Big`Ed> hehe
[05 Jan/15:40] <LosQ3> meaning ... I am gonna play Q3 if it gets slow here :P
[05 Jan/15:40] ! `Muff` is known as Muff
[05 Jan/15:40] <Muff> Oh, that joke went south ;)
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[05 Jan/15:41] <musical5> ooh man I need help bad
[05 Jan/15:41] <Big`Ed> bad?
[05 Jan/15:41] <LosQ3> would you like us to ask you what the probelm is?
[05 Jan/15:41] <musical5> whenever there is a lot of access to my HD my sytem locks up
[05 Jan/15:41] <musical5> IE scandisk/defrag
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[05 Jan/15:42] <SevensTX> is it just with defrag?
[05 Jan/15:42] <musical5> I do multimedia and its not going well at all
[05 Jan/15:42] @ mode #win98 [+v bob^01] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[05 Jan/15:42] <LosQ3> does it do the same in safemode?
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[05 Jan/15:42] <musical5> and scandisk
[05 Jan/15:42] <musical5> oops didnt check that
[05 Jan/15:42] <musical5> hehehe
[05 Jan/15:42] <musical5> I will though
[05 Jan/15:42] <LosQ3> do you have DMA enabled?
[05 Jan/15:43] <musical5> yes
[05 Jan/15:43] <musical5> its and abit bh6
[05 Jan/15:43] <LosQ3> try disabling it and see if that helps ya too
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[05 Jan/15:43] <musical5> 300a@450
[05 Jan/15:43] @ mode #win98 [+v CJ^] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[05 Jan/15:43] <musical5> hmmm
[05 Jan/15:43] <LosQ3> sheez
[05 Jan/15:43] <CJ^> :P
[05 Jan/15:43] <musical5> that would seriously hurt my performance
[05 Jan/15:43] <SevensTX> how big is the drive?
[05 Jan/15:43] <LosQ3> gee like the hangs dont?
[05 Jan/15:43] <musical5> 18.2
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[05 Jan/15:44] <Big`Ed> office 97/2k involved?
[05 Jan/15:44] <musical5> whats that?
[05 Jan/15:44] <Big`Ed> microsoft office
[05 Jan/15:44] <musical5> yes they do:)
[05 Jan/15:44] <musical5> lol
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[05 Jan/15:44] <musical5> but Ive been running this system for 6 mos
[05 Jan/15:44] @ mode #win98 [+v Double0] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[05 Jan/15:44] <musical5> np
[05 Jan/15:45] <Double0> do I have to install service pack2 before I can install Service pack 3??
[05 Jan/15:45] <LosQ3> and killing it slowly
[05 Jan/15:45] <LosQ3> huh?
[05 Jan/15:45] <Big`Ed> Double0 - sp3 of WHAT?
[05 Jan/15:46] <musical5> losq3: so I shouldnt bee getting this now right???
[05 Jan/15:46] <Double0> Visual Basic 5.0
[05 Jan/15:46] <musical5> after 6 mos running it
[05 Jan/15:46] <LosQ3> musical5 if your over clocking ...your on your own
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[05 Jan/15:46] <Big`Ed> Double0 - where does it say above - in channel name #Vb5
[05 Jan/15:46] <Big`Ed> yup
[05 Jan/15:46] @ mode #win98 [+v zhylum] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[05 Jan/15:46] <musical5> are you speaking ethically?
[05 Jan/15:47] <musical5> losq3?
[05 Jan/15:47] <Big`Ed> musical5 - have you tested your system performance withOUT overclocking?
[05 Jan/15:47] <musical5> yes
[05 Jan/15:47] <musical5> it worked both ways
[05 Jan/15:47] <Big`Ed> no - overclocking hurts pc's performance overall
[05 Jan/15:47] * zhylum needs help
[05 Jan/15:47] <LosQ3> with?
[05 Jan/15:47] <SevensTX> see this Q article
[05 Jan/15:47] <CJ^> with what zhylum?
[05 Jan/15:47] <SevensTX> Disk Defragmenter May Seem to Stop Responding                 [win95x]
[05 Jan/15:47] <SevensTX> ID: Q136836
[05 Jan/15:47] <Big`Ed> win95?
[05 Jan/15:47] <musical5> where is it?
[05 Jan/15:47] <musical5> q article?
[05 Jan/15:47] <CJ^> `op
[05 Jan/15:47] @ mode #win98 [+o CJ^] by Amsterdam!stoner@207.178.66.22
[05 Jan/15:47] <SevensTX> ignore that part, it applies to 98 at well.
[05 Jan/15:48] <zhylum> every time my laptop starts up i get my C folder
[05 Jan/15:48] <zhylum> it bugs me
[05 Jan/15:48] <zhylum> how do i get that to stop
[05 Jan/15:48] <musical5> I have seen that at microsoft
[05 Jan/15:48] <musical5> the article
[05 Jan/15:48] <zhylum> i removed my REM lines in the autoexec.bat
[05 Jan/15:48] <Big`Ed> zhylum - a win98 laptop should NOT have a autoexec.bat
[05 Jan/15:48] <LosQ3> I have seen this before
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[05 Jan/15:49] <CJ^> your getting what   c:\  before you enter windows?
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[05 Jan/15:49] <zhylum> the folder keeps on popping up when my laptop starts up
[05 Jan/15:49] <zhylum> its fine
[05 Jan/15:49] @ mode #win98 [+v Boo] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[05 Jan/15:49] <LosQ3> he just just getting a persistant folder opening
[05 Jan/15:49] <`Muff`> later all :)
[05 Jan/15:49] <zhylum> yep yep
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[05 Jan/15:50] <Boo> hello I have a problem with my serial mouse
[05 Jan/15:50] <LosQ3> I have seen it before somewhere...
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[05 Jan/15:50] <CJ^> well.. what WAS in your autoexec.bat?
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[05 Jan/15:50] * zhylum looks
[05 Jan/15:51] <Tara2x> Hello. Anyone here up for a very simple win98 networking question?
[05 Jan/15:51] <Big`Ed> boo - like what?
[05 Jan/15:51] <Big`Ed> Tara2x - like what?
[05 Jan/15:51] <Boo> I installed windows 98 on a new pc and it detects the serial ports but the mouse was never detected
[05 Jan/15:51] <SevensTX> What's up Tara?
[05 Jan/15:51] <Boo> it keeps saying there is no mouse on the beginning of windows
[05 Jan/15:51] <Tara2x> When networked peer-to-peer you can access a file on another computer...but can you run a program that is installed on that other system and not on yours?
[05 Jan/15:52] <Big`Ed> boo - are you saying pre-boot?
[05 Jan/15:52] <SevensTX> Tara - probably depends on the program
[05 Jan/15:52] * zhylum gets confused
[05 Jan/15:52] <Boo> big: what is a pre boot ?
[05 Jan/15:52] <zhylum> i have 2 autoexec.bat
[05 Jan/15:52] <Big`Ed> Tara2x - can you see/view files from both sides?
[05 Jan/15:52] <SevensTX> If it's client/server based, then yes. otherwise, you probably need to install it on your machine as well
[05 Jan/15:52] <Big`Ed> boo - your seeing this as the pc startsup - before windows98 kicks in?
[05 Jan/15:53] <Tara2x> Ah, I see. Thnx.
[05 Jan/15:53] <LosQ3> http://www.annoyances.org/cgi-bin/ce-showtopic/002_016 <-- zhylum
[05 Jan/15:53] <Boo> big : even dos drivers do not make the mouse work
[05 Jan/15:53] <zhylum> thankie
[05 Jan/15:53] * zhylum looks at that
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[05 Jan/15:54] <CJ^> zhylum  youhave two?
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[05 Jan/15:54] <pyrokiwi> hiya ppls
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[05 Jan/15:54] <CJ^> umm ya mean  autoexec.bat/.old?
[05 Jan/15:54] <CJ^> somehtign liek that?
[05 Jan/15:54] <Big`Ed> boo - you should NOT have dos drivers
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[05 Jan/15:54] <Big`Ed> boo - that is BAD
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[05 Jan/15:54] <CJ^> bad mouse?
[05 Jan/15:54] <CJ^> or conflict
[05 Jan/15:55] <zhylum> yep i have 2
[05 Jan/15:55] <zhylum> one in the C:\ folder
[05 Jan/15:55] <Boo> big : I did not install dos drivers I was only trying them , it just seems my board never detevts any serial mouse on its serial ports
[05 Jan/15:55] <zhylum> and another in the C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\EBD folder
[05 Jan/15:56] <zhylum> both the same
[05 Jan/15:56] <LosQ3> that is ok
[05 Jan/15:56] <zhylum> no other additions
[05 Jan/15:56] <Big`Ed> boo - did you ever have a serial mouse working on this PC?
[05 Jan/15:56] <Boo> big : no
[05 Jan/15:57] <Big`Ed> boo - then 2 things to look at
[05 Jan/15:57] <Big`Ed> 1st, the BIOS
[05 Jan/15:57] <pyrokiwi> hmmm Boo do u hav a modem?
[05 Jan/15:57] <Big`Ed> to see if the comm ports are enabled
[05 Jan/15:57] <Boo> big : they are
[05 Jan/15:57] ! HigH|AwaY is known as HigHBabE
[05 Jan/15:57] <pyrokiwi> and check that ur modem is not using com1
[05 Jan/15:57] <Big`Ed> 2nd (if 1 does not work) is to see if the wire actually is hooked up to the motherboard
[05 Jan/15:57] <Big`Ed> and 3rd is what pyrokiwi said
[05 Jan/15:57] <Boo> big : I tried two mouses
[05 Jan/15:58] <Boo> big : I am sure there is no conflicts between modem and mouse
[05 Jan/15:58] <pyrokiwi>  ouch i just got a swimming pool toy diving weight thingy chucked at my head it hit me where my eyebrow is 
[05 Jan/15:58] <Big`Ed> boo - you checked cables?
[05 Jan/15:58] <Boo> big : could it be the mother board ?
[05 Jan/15:59] <Big`Ed> boo - motherboard serial ports can get fried - chances are VERY slim. - but if never worked, i would speculate wire's or bios first
[05 Jan/15:59] * pyrokiwi is in pain
[05 Jan/16:00] <Boo> big : ok 
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[05 Jan/16:00] <Big`Ed> pyrokiwi why?
[05 Jan/16:00] <pyrokiwi> cause i hav a gash where my eyebrow is
[05 Jan/16:01] <Big`Ed> damaged fruit
[05 Jan/16:01] <pyrokiwi> after i got hit by some swimming pool toy diving weight thing 
[05 Jan/16:01] * zhylum go bye bye
[05 Jan/16:02] <pyrokiwi> hehe oh btw my paperrun i do 1/2 times a week in 5 weeks i got 75buckskiwi  (47$us) :)
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[05 Jan/16:02] <pyrokiwi> so know i am happy
[05 Jan/16:03] <pyrokiwi> and in pain
[05 Jan/16:03] <Big`Ed> kewl
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[05 Jan/16:03] <pyrokiwi> hmmm yeh the money is but pain isnt ohh i gtg
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[05 Jan/16:26] <FreshBrew> sorry
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[05 Jan/16:26] <FreshBrew> whoops wrong chan
[05 Jan/16:27] <Big`Ed> heh
[05 Jan/16:27] <FreshBrew> damn they banned me...
[05 Jan/16:27] <FreshBrew> just for saying fucked
[05 Jan/16:27] <Big`Ed> no cussing
[05 Jan/16:27] <Big`Ed> strike 2
[05 Jan/16:28] <FreshBrew> sorry
[05 Jan/16:28] <FreshBrew> whoops.. didnt see that
[05 Jan/16:28] <Big`Ed> obey OUR rules too
[05 Jan/16:28] <Big`Ed> see TOPIC
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[05 Jan/16:29] <FreshBrew> ok... how do i install a hd in the bios?
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[05 Jan/16:30] <FreshBrew> someone?
[05 Jan/16:31] <Big`Ed> ok - what are you trying to do?
[05 Jan/16:31] <Kutron> Are there any programs that will make a program go into the traybar?
[05 Jan/16:31] ! Southman is known as Ssouthman
[05 Jan/16:31] <Big`Ed> Kutron - as in the bar next to the start menu?
[05 Jan/16:32] <Big`Ed> that is built into win98
[05 Jan/16:32] <FreshBrew> i bought a new hard drive, and i installed it created it in fdisk and formatted, and  it doesnt work.. it corrupts all date loaded onto it
[05 Jan/16:32] <Big`Ed> FreshBrew - what size hd?
[05 Jan/16:32] <FreshBrew> 8.4g
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[05 Jan/16:32] <Big`Ed> FreshBrew - did FDISK see whole thing?
[05 Jan/16:32] <Kutron> yep
[05 Jan/16:32] <FreshBrew> yeah
[05 Jan/16:33] <Big`Ed> Kutron - you just drag a item to it
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[05 Jan/16:33] <Big`Ed> FreshBrew  - you are using windows 98 right?
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[05 Jan/16:33] <FreshBrew> it knows its 8.4 g err... 7.84 accordign to win98 space calculating error, but  all teh stuff i try and load on says it corrupts when i try and run..
[05 Jan/16:33] <FreshBrew> yah win98
[05 Jan/16:34] <Big`Ed> FreshBrew - are you OVERCLOCKING?
[05 Jan/16:34] <FreshBrew> nope
[05 Jan/16:34] <Big`Ed> FreshBrew - when you say corrupts - what does a scandisk show?
[05 Jan/16:35] <FreshBrew> nothing
[05 Jan/16:35] <LosGuy> what is corrupt?
[05 Jan/16:35] <LosGuy> just the free space?
[05 Jan/16:35] <FreshBrew> no as in, corrupted, as in bad
[05 Jan/16:35] * LosGuy didnt get in on this
[05 Jan/16:36] <Big`Ed> like HOW?
[05 Jan/16:36] <LosGuy> (got disconnected)
[05 Jan/16:36] <Big`Ed> [19:31] <FreshBrew> i bought a new hard drive, and i installed it created it in fdisk and formatted, and  it doesnt work.. it corrupts all date loaded onto it
[05 Jan/16:36] <FreshBrew> like how what?
[05 Jan/16:36] <Big`Ed> didn't miss much LosGuy
[05 Jan/16:36] <FreshBrew> what do you mean?
[05 Jan/16:36] <FreshBrew> scan disk says its fine
[05 Jan/16:37] <Big`Ed> FreshBrew - what tells you the data is corrupt?
[05 Jan/16:37] ! Pslave^Nz is known as Powerslav
[05 Jan/16:38] <Kutron> BigEd that doesn't work :-(
[05 Jan/16:38] <FreshBrew> when i try and run any of the progs i load on.. it says THE FILE bgmain.exe (the baldurs gate exe file, for example) is corrupt, uninstall and reinstall and try again
[05 Jan/16:38] <FreshBrew> or it commits one of those insane microsfot illegal errors
[05 Jan/16:38] <Big`Ed> Kutron - right click on bar, go to VIEW, go to tool bar, go to 'quick launch' and check it
[05 Jan/16:39] <LosGuy> DMA enabled?
[05 Jan/16:39] <LosGuy> if so try disabling it
[05 Jan/16:39] <Big`Ed> FreshBrew - but a 'scandisk' is clean?
[05 Jan/16:39] <Kutron> BigEd I'm talking about taking a program that's already running, like mirc and drag to where the time is and task scheduler
[05 Jan/16:39] <FreshBrew> yeah.. as in no errors
[05 Jan/16:39] <FreshBrew> DMA?
[05 Jan/16:39] <FreshBrew> wich would be?
[05 Jan/16:40] <LosGuy> control panel / system / device manager click on the problem drive and choose properties
[05 Jan/16:40] <Big`Ed> is there any other operating system involved on this PC?
[05 Jan/16:40] <LosGuy> DMA direct memory access
[05 Jan/16:41] <FreshBrew> no
[05 Jan/16:41] * LosGuy wonders about a drive overlay too
[05 Jan/16:41] <LosGuy> is this the boot drive?
[05 Jan/16:41] <FreshBrew> i wish i knew how to use linux and had a copy but... no its my pri slave
[05 Jan/16:41] * LosGuy also wondered earlier about a VIRUS?
[05 Jan/16:41] <Kutron> BigEd I'm talking about taking a program that's already running, like mirc and drag to where the time is and task scheduler
[05 Jan/16:42] <Big`Ed> Kutron - oh - that is called the system tray
[05 Jan/16:42] <LosGuy> that is called the tray
[05 Jan/16:42] <LosGuy> and you cant easily add programs to the tray
[05 Jan/16:42] <LosGuy> except with a third party app
[05 Jan/16:42] <Big`Ed> Kutron - the program needs to be written to use that space
[05 Jan/16:42] <Kutron> are there any programs out there that let u add a program to it
[05 Jan/16:42] <Kutron> shit
[05 Jan/16:42] <Big`Ed> Kutron - you can try www.tucows.com for third
[05 Jan/16:42] <Big`Ed> but i don't know any
[05 Jan/16:42] <Kutron> thanks anyways
[05 Jan/16:42] <LosGuy> there is an app called minimize to tray I belive that might do what you want
[05 Jan/16:42] <LosGuy> no cussing
[05 Jan/16:42] <Kutron> sorry
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[05 Jan/16:44] <FreshBrew> i cant se any hard drives in device manager
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[05 Jan/16:44] <tudytzi> win98 sucks ; linux rocks with the beat
[05 Jan/16:44] <LosGuy> oh your a linux newbie are you tudytzi?
[05 Jan/16:44] <Big`Ed> your point tudytzi?
[05 Jan/16:44] <LosGuy> all the newbies come here and say htat
[05 Jan/16:45] <powertech> anyone tell me how to tranfers files whit a network card in DOS?
[05 Jan/16:45] <LosGuy> they think that it is a badge of honnor or something
[05 Jan/16:45] <LosGuy> but is SOOOO newbie 
[05 Jan/16:45] <FreshBrew> hehe
[05 Jan/16:45] <LosGuy> most of us here use linux
[05 Jan/16:45] <FreshBrew> i know
[05 Jan/16:45] <tudytzi> good
[05 Jan/16:45] <LosGuy> anyway thanks for stopping by
[05 Jan/16:45] <LosGuy> `kb tudytzi see ya now
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[05 Jan/16:46] <FreshBrew> k... i cant see hd in device manager
[05 Jan/16:46] <LosGuy> do you see disk drives?
[05 Jan/16:46] <FreshBrew> okay now i do
[05 Jan/16:46] <Big`Ed> did you install this HD using the software from the drive?
[05 Jan/16:47] <FreshBrew> do i want dma on or off... and yes software from drive
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[05 Jan/16:48] <FreshBrew> dma on or off??????
[05 Jan/16:48] <LosGuy> FreshBrew was it selected? off will not hurt.. .on might
[05 Jan/16:48] <FreshBrew> off was selected
[05 Jan/16:49] <FreshBrew> its a fujitsu hd if that helps
[05 Jan/16:49] * LosGuy has 4 fujitsu drives and have never had a problem with them
[05 Jan/16:49] <LosGuy> but I dont use that ontrack stuff that comes with them either
[05 Jan/16:50] <FreshBrew> 4???? jesus.... and ontrack?
[05 Jan/16:50] <Squall14> I need help!!
[05 Jan/16:50] <Squall14> I need help with directx !
[05 Jan/16:50] <Squall14> pls help me!
[05 Jan/16:50] <Big`Ed> Squall14 - ????
[05 Jan/16:50] <LosGuy> ontrack is drive overlay software that comes with fujitsu drives
[05 Jan/16:51] <Big`Ed> i asked if he installed - never got answer?
[05 Jan/16:51] <LosGuy> to allow big drives to work with systems that normally couldnt support them 
[05 Jan/16:51] <Kutron> Fujitsu hard drives suck
[05 Jan/16:51] <Big`Ed> using disk
[05 Jan/16:51] <Big`Ed> [19:46] <Big`Ed> did you install this HD using the software from the drive?
[05 Jan/16:51] <Kutron> I worked on installing a fujitisu hard drive for 3 days straight and it just didn't work I treid everything
[05 Jan/16:51] <FreshBrew> my hd came in a static bag with a single pice of paper and some silac gel, no screws, no software
[05 Jan/16:51] <FreshBrew> yeah same w/ me
[05 Jan/16:52] <Kutron> you had the same problem FreshBrew?
[05 Jan/16:52] <FreshBrew> i xchanged today for the same kind cause i though the first was broken or something
[05 Jan/16:52] <FreshBrew> yeah
[05 Jan/16:52] <Kutron> I got a Maxtor and it worked right away
[05 Jan/16:52] <Kutron> do u have a clone ?
[05 Jan/16:52] <LosGuy> haha
[05 Jan/16:52] <LosGuy> maxturd
[05 Jan/16:52] <Big`Ed> FreshBrew - it could be several things
[05 Jan/16:52] <Big`Ed> but they allways show up in SCANDISK
[05 Jan/16:52] <FreshBrew> clone? and crap
[05 Jan/16:53] <FreshBrew> well they dont...
[05 Jan/16:53] <Big`Ed> bad wire, settings, cable, incommpatability with other drives
[05 Jan/16:53] <FreshBrew> damn JB office systems!
[05 Jan/16:53] <FreshBrew> they wont like me xchanging twice
[05 Jan/16:53] <FreshBrew> but i want my $$ back
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[05 Jan/16:54] <FreshBrew> hmm i need to formulate a lie...
[05 Jan/16:54] <FreshBrew> ahh its incompatible with my system, and i had a friend of mine.. a comp god inform me of this
[05 Jan/16:55] <Squall14> hello~?
[05 Jan/16:55] <Squall14> hey~~~~!!!!
[05 Jan/16:55] <LosGuy> hmm have only heard of that with a few...ie maxtor and western digital
[05 Jan/16:55] <FreshBrew> if you were JB of JB office systems would you belive that? after ive already xchanged once?
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[05 Jan/16:55] <FreshBrew> damn..
[05 Jan/16:56] <LosGuy> probably not
[05 Jan/16:56] <Big`Ed> strike 3 FreshBrew
[05 Jan/16:56] <Big`Ed> `kick FreshBrew no cussing
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[05 Jan/16:56] <FreshBrew> hey!
[05 Jan/16:56] <Big`Ed> hello sir here
[05 Jan/16:57] <Big`Ed> NO CUSSING for the 3rd time
[05 Jan/16:57] <FreshBrew> well who says its cussing?
[05 Jan/16:58] <Big`Ed> me
[05 Jan/16:58] <LosGuy> the guy with the power to kick you...or worse
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[05 Jan/16:58] <FreshBrew> ah!
[05 Jan/16:58] <Big`Ed> do you wish ME eternal damnation in HELL?
[05 Jan/16:58] <FreshBrew> well... hmmm i g/g math homework.
[05 Jan/16:58] <wez> isnt hell a bar in seattle?
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[05 Jan/16:59] <|mrgone|> manb
[05 Jan/16:59] <|mrgone|> disconnected already
[05 Jan/16:59] <|mrgone|> i just got on too
[05 Jan/16:59] <Big`Ed> donno?
[05 Jan/16:59] <Big`Ed> wb
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[05 Jan/17:02] <Big`Ed> something fishy with that HD LosGuy
[05 Jan/17:02] <LosGuy> yeah ... saw someone else in here once with a similar problem
[05 Jan/17:02] <LosGuy> dont remember if he ever fixed it or not
[05 Jan/17:02] <Big`Ed> he denies all the 'indications' of problems
[05 Jan/17:02] <Big`Ed> but has also tried them all
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[05 Jan/17:03] <LosGuy> he should have tried it on another port
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[05 Jan/17:04] <LosGuy> Dets brother
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[05 Jan/17:11] <lat_guy> SCSI question here
[05 Jan/17:11] <lat_guy> who wants to field it
[05 Jan/17:12] <LosGuy> not I
[05 Jan/17:13] <LosGuy> you will have better luck if you just ask the question though...not ask who wants to help you with the mystery question
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[05 Jan/17:13] <devilDigg> hi all
[05 Jan/17:13] <LosGuy> hi devilDigg
[05 Jan/17:13] <devilDigg> is there a netsplit?
[05 Jan/17:13] <Big`Ed> hi devilDigg
[05 Jan/17:13] <Big`Ed> net has been easy tonight
[05 Jan/17:14] <LosGuy> not that I know of..but I was on a european server a while ago that was empty
[05 Jan/17:14] <devilDigg> oh
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[05 Jan/17:19] <Big`Ed> a real princess?
[05 Jan/17:19] <Princessa> grin..no the real one died
[05 Jan/17:19] <Princessa> hahaha
[05 Jan/17:20] <Big`Ed> oh - then a sexygoddess
[05 Jan/17:20] ! wildangel is known as W|LdAnGeL
[05 Jan/17:20] <Princessa> although??? if you were to ask my dad he'd agree his girl is one..thus Princessa
[05 Jan/17:20] <Princessa> Anyway...:)
[05 Jan/17:20] <Big`Ed> ah - a daddies girl
[05 Jan/17:20] <Big`Ed> go ahead
[05 Jan/17:20] <Big`Ed> little-girl
[05 Jan/17:21] <Big`Ed> (couldn't resist)
[05 Jan/17:21] <Princessa> Big Ed you use the Y2KScan yet
[05 Jan/17:21] <Big`Ed> of course
[05 Jan/17:21] <Big`Ed> did about 50 pc's at work
[05 Jan/17:21] <Princessa> I'm gonna smack your mouth if you don't stop it..haha
[05 Jan/17:21] * Big`Ed likes `em rough
[05 Jan/17:21] <Big`Ed> whats your q on it?
[05 Jan/17:21] <devilDigg> heh
[05 Jan/17:22] <Big`Ed> Princessa?
[05 Jan/17:22] <Big`Ed> ok
[05 Jan/17:22] <Princessa> I'm attempting to dnload the SYSTEM information..ie. the sections which read Complaint (prerequiste required)
[05 Jan/17:23] <Big`Ed> ok
[05 Jan/17:23] <Princessa> yet I'm at the URL but don't see anything to dnload
[05 Jan/17:23] <Big`Ed> are you on windows 98?
[05 Jan/17:23] <devilDigg> big: was your computer on when the clock striked zero and 2000 came in?
[05 Jan/17:23] <Big`Ed> yes devilDigg 1 on, 2 off
[05 Jan/17:23] <Princessa> I've have 13 Complaint prerequiste required items
[05 Jan/17:23] <Big`Ed> Princessa - are you on a windows 98 pc?
[05 Jan/17:24] <Princessa> Big Ed..geez louise that's a great question..AM I on win98..lol 
[05 Jan/17:24] <Princessa> sorry couldn't resist
[05 Jan/17:24] <devilDigg> cool
[05 Jan/17:24] <Princessa> hahahah
[05 Jan/17:24] <Big`Ed> believe it or not - get 95 folks in here 
[05 Jan/17:24] <Princessa> the answer is Yes
[05 Jan/17:24] <Big`Ed> office 97 or office 2k?
[05 Jan/17:25] ! HigH|Busy is known as HigH|AwaY
[05 Jan/17:25] <Big`Ed> or other microsoft programs?
[05 Jan/17:25] <Princessa> BigEd..I have two computers..Tchaikovsky & Vivaldi. Tchai Office 97 & Vivaldi Office 2K
[05 Jan/17:25] <Princessa> Yes, Big. AND other ms programs
[05 Jan/17:25] <Big`Ed> the office 97 is giving you all the hits right?
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[05 Jan/17:26] <Big`Ed> most
[05 Jan/17:26] <devilDigg> i see you like classical music..
[05 Jan/17:26] <Princessa> correct..but not the only one.  Vivaldi gave me a bit of a problem in that it started itself in safe mode..I've since corrected that..not sure what happened
[05 Jan/17:26] <devilDigg> naming the computers (very creative!!) :)
[05 Jan/17:26] <Princessa> yes, DevilDigg, I love it
[05 Jan/17:27] <Big`Ed> ok Princessa - first the o97 - there is a single fix for all but 2 things.  it is the service release 2b
[05 Jan/17:27] <devilDigg> i played some vivaldi once, a bit of the four seasons for violin, although i coudlnt get it right, because it was my teacher's..
[05 Jan/17:27] <devilDigg> anyway back to your ?stions
[05 Jan/17:27] <Princessa> hehehe
[05 Jan/17:28] <Princessa> that's a great piece..:) And yes, let's get back to Y2Kscan's..or we risk the chance of having virsus thrown our way..lol
[05 Jan/17:28] * Princessa looks over at Big..umm so???
[05 Jan/17:28] <Princessa> any ideas? 
[05 Jan/17:28] <Big`Ed> the sr2b will fix all errors in office 97 except a small one in exchange mail, and JEtdatabase
[05 Jan/17:29] <Big`Ed> the sr2b will fix all errors in office 97 except a small one in exchange mail, and JEtdatabase
[05 Jan/17:29] <Big`Ed> ok Princessa - first the o97 - there is a single fix for all but 2 things.  it is the service release 2b
[05 Jan/17:29] <Princessa> thank you..but where do I obtain these FIXes..
[05 Jan/17:29] <Big`Ed> Princessa - have you ran all the updates from the 'windows 98 - update site' ?
[05 Jan/17:29] <Princessa> No
[05 Jan/17:30] <Big`Ed> you need to run all the critical, recoomended fixes at a minimum
[05 Jan/17:30] <Princessa> that's what brought me here
[05 Jan/17:30] <Big`Ed> that will resolve 99% of the win98 errors
[05 Jan/17:30] <Big`Ed> checking
[05 Jan/17:30] <Big`Ed> will get you the link
[05 Jan/17:30] <Big`Ed> for office
[05 Jan/17:30] <Big`Ed> for 98 stuff - start - 'windows update'
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[05 Jan/17:31] <Princessa> Yes..but I'm currently at http://www.microsoft.com/technet/year2k/product/user_view32165EN.htm and DO NOT see anything (ie File) to dnload
[05 Jan/17:31] <Big`Ed> http://officeupdate.microsoft.com/Articles/sr2fact.htm
[05 Jan/17:32] <Big`Ed> Princessa - i just looked at that link - those fixes are all on the windows udpate site
[05 Jan/17:32] <Big`Ed> Windows 98 users: 
[05 Jan/17:32] <Big`Ed> Please start the Windows Update service from the link on the Start menu. This will prompt you to install the appropriate year 2000 updates for your Windows 98 system.
[05 Jan/17:33] <Princessa> ok I'll check it out & dnload it
[05 Jan/17:33] <Big`Ed> so if you do both of those main links - you should find your win98 and o2k pc complient
[05 Jan/17:33] <Big`Ed> and the win98/o97 pc 99% complient
[05 Jan/17:36] <Princessa> Big
[05 Jan/17:36] <Big`Ed> yes?
[05 Jan/17:36] <Big`Ed> daddies girl
[05 Jan/17:37] <Princessa> what's the difference between sr-2 Sr-2b
[05 Jan/17:37] <Princessa> you're gonna get it..:)
[05 Jan/17:37] <Big`Ed> have you ever installed a service pack?
[05 Jan/17:37] <Princessa> Yes..
[05 Jan/17:37] <Big`Ed> 2b has extra y2k things in it
[05 Jan/17:37] <Big`Ed> did you install 2?
[05 Jan/17:37] <Princessa> pls humour me and answer my questions
[05 Jan/17:38] <Big`Ed> sr2b has outlook and jet3.5 updates over 2
[05 Jan/17:38] <Princessa> checked About MsWOrd.SR-2
[05 Jan/17:39] <Big`Ed> the sr2b for office will fix all parts of office installed
[05 Jan/17:39] <Big`Ed> its big - but works good
[05 Jan/17:39] <Princessa> so if I already have Sr-2 I should dnload updates for sr-2b?
[05 Jan/17:39] <Princessa> ok
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[05 Jan/17:40] <Big`Ed> i don't think you would have gotten all those hits if you had 2 installed
[05 Jan/17:40] <Big`Ed> on all office programs
[05 Jan/17:40] <Big`Ed> you can wait a coupla weeks and send in for the FREE cd too
[05 Jan/17:40] <Big`Ed> it has all the patches on it
[05 Jan/17:41] <Big`Ed> 2b only had 2 fixes over 2
[05 Jan/17:41] <Big`Ed> for office applications
[05 Jan/17:41] <Big`Ed> and both of those fixes are on that page
[05 Jan/17:42] <Big`Ed> yes
[05 Jan/17:43] <Big`Ed> right after it says "IMPORTANT: If you have previously..."
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[05 Jan/17:46] <Princessa> Big..I've just checked again on About MSWOrd and it clearly states SR-2, but after checking http://officeupdate.microsoft.com/Articles/sr2fact.htm...re: sr-2b. It states If you have NOT previously installed Office 97 SR-2, you may download Office 97 SR-2b from the Office 97 Service Release 2b (SR-2b)..But I HAVE it installed.
[05 Jan/17:46] <Princessa> sorry I had to take a phone call
[05 Jan/17:46] <Big`Ed> but did you install only word's sr2 - or full sr2?
[05 Jan/17:46] <Princessa> ok you've said the same thing basically
[05 Jan/17:46] <Princessa> that's a good question. I can't remember
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[05 Jan/17:47] <Big`Ed> it does not hurt to apply 2b over 2
[05 Jan/17:47] <Princessa> ok
[05 Jan/17:47] <Big`Ed> but to install 2 - you must have 1
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[05 Jan/17:47] <Big`Ed> it is big - is  your connection fast?
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[05 Jan/17:48] <Big`Ed> ?
[05 Jan/17:48] <Princessa> I've dnlokaded sr2ch.exe
[05 Jan/17:48] <Big`Ed> ok
[05 Jan/17:48] <Princessa> I don't have a cable modem..56K phone line
[05 Jan/17:48] <Big`Ed> but run the windows updates, the sr2 updates, and then re-run the y2kscan
[05 Jan/17:49] <Big`Ed> there is also a link to send for a free cd too there
[05 Jan/17:49] <Big`Ed> if you can wait 2 weeks for the office part
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[05 Jan/17:49] <Big`Ed> then focus on the windows updates
[05 Jan/17:49] <Princessa> yes I can wait
[05 Jan/17:49] <Big`Ed> time for me to jam
[05 Jan/17:49] <Big`Ed> i'll be back on tommorow
[05 Jan/17:49] <Princessa> no wait
[05 Jan/17:49] <Big`Ed> if you got more questions
[05 Jan/17:50] <LosGuy> nite Ed
[05 Jan/17:50] <Princessa> pls let me thank you.
[05 Jan/17:50] <Big`Ed> the windows updates will take alot of downloads
[05 Jan/17:50] <Big`Ed> thank me with a SLAP!
[05 Jan/17:50] <Princessa> Thanks a millenium for your assitance :)) Even if you picked on me
[05 Jan/17:50] <Princessa> lol
[05 Jan/17:50] <Big`Ed> ;)
[05 Jan/17:50] <Princessa> ok now go
[05 Jan/17:50] <Princessa> hahaha
[05 Jan/17:50] <Big`Ed> tell me how it goes later - ok?
[05 Jan/17:50] <Princessa> ok..g'night
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[05 Jan/17:51] <Big`Ed> good night ALL
[05 Jan/17:51] <Princessa> and lay off the rough stuff will ya
[05 Jan/17:51] <Princessa> lol
[05 Jan/17:51] <pyrokiwi> sya
[05 Jan/17:51] ! CJafk is known as CJ^
[05 Jan/17:51] <pyrokiwi> yo CJ^ i cut my head and got concussion actually my sister did it
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[05 Jan/17:51] <CJ^> good gurl....
[05 Jan/17:52] <CJ^> i like her
[05 Jan/17:52] <Princessa> waves g'night to everyone else
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[05 Jan/17:52] <pyrokiwi> grrr
[05 Jan/17:52] <pyrokiwi> she threw this diving stick thing into the pool and it hit me on my head
[05 Jan/17:52] <pyrokiwi> where my eyebrow is
[05 Jan/17:53] <CJ^> hehe
[05 Jan/17:53] <CJ^> and how old is she??
[05 Jan/17:53] <pyrokiwi> 8
[05 Jan/17:54] <CJ^> hehe
[05 Jan/17:54] <CJ^> dont ya love em at that age...
[05 Jan/17:54] <CJ^> gimme that wav
[05 Jan/17:55] <pyrokiwi> wat wave?
[05 Jan/17:55] <pyrokiwi> that mad cow 1?
[05 Jan/17:56] <CJ^> no no no
[05 Jan/17:56] <CJ^> nm
[05 Jan/17:56] <pyrokiwi> wat wave u on about?
[05 Jan/17:56] <CJ^> nothing  dont owrry
[05 Jan/17:56] <CJ^> wrong window
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[05 Jan/17:56] <pyrokiwi> ahha
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[05 Jan/17:58] <TurnIt> this isn't exactly a win98 q, but I thought one of you guys might have run into it anyway...
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[05 Jan/17:59] <TurnIt> I'm putting together a Celeron 433 system on an Abit BM6 board, and the bios will detect the 15 gig IBM drive, but the next time I'm in bios, it thinks it's a 2.1 gigger
[05 Jan/17:59] <TurnIt> the jumpers are set right and everything
[05 Jan/17:59] <TurnIt> I even flashed the bios to the latest version (which was supposed to fix problems with the larger drives)
[05 Jan/18:00] <TurnIt> any ideas?
[05 Jan/18:00] * LosGuy has never seen that before
[05 Jan/18:00] <TurnIt> yeah, I've called around to several of my buds that do this sort of thing...
[05 Jan/18:00] <TurnIt> no clue from anyone
[05 Jan/18:01] <TurnIt> well, the only thing I've got is a suggestion to use a file management system from the hdd manufacturer, but I've heard win98 doesn't like that...
[05 Jan/18:01] <TurnIt> and...the bios is *supposed* to handle it
[05 Jan/18:01] <LosGuy> yuck
[05 Jan/18:01] <TurnIt> no kidding
[05 Jan/18:02] <LosGuy> win98 isnt the problem ..they just suck in general
[05 Jan/18:02] <TurnIt> I've been working on this thing for hours!
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[05 Jan/18:02] <LosGuy> hmmm
[05 Jan/18:02] <LosGuy> oh
[05 Jan/18:02] <TurnIt> yeah, regardless of what the problem is, I'm just trying to find something that will work...didn't want to cause myself more problems!
[05 Jan/18:02] <LosGuy> what bios is this?
[05 Jan/18:03] <TurnIt> whatever the latest is for the bm6...d/l this afternoon to flash
[05 Jan/18:03] * LosGuy meant brand
[05 Jan/18:03] <CJ^> tried any other hdd on it yet??
[05 Jan/18:03] <CJ^> Abit
[05 Jan/18:03] <LosGuy> ami award etc
[05 Jan/18:03] <TurnIt> award
[05 Jan/18:03] <LosGuy> AWARD
[05 Jan/18:03] <TurnIt> sorry, man
[05 Jan/18:04] <LosGuy> after detecting is it seeing the correct drive in the first page of bios?
[05 Jan/18:04] <TurnIt> nope, haven't tried another hdd
[05 Jan/18:04] <LosGuy> not the auto detect
[05 Jan/18:04] <TurnIt> yeah, but the next time I go into the bios, it's back to 2.1...
[05 Jan/18:04] <TurnIt> and I am saving it
[05 Jan/18:04] <pyrokiwi> hmmm
[05 Jan/18:04] <pyrokiwi> is it fat32 
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[05 Jan/18:04] <TurnIt> I thought that's what I'd done the first time...just accidently nixed it, but no luck
[05 Jan/18:04] <TurnIt> yeah...fat32
[05 Jan/18:05] <pyrokiwi> hmmm ok
[05 Jan/18:05] <TurnIt> the only other hdd I have setting around I could try on it wouldn't tell me anything...
[05 Jan/18:05] <TurnIt> antiquity...420 megs!  haha!
[05 Jan/18:06] <CJ^> ok
[05 Jan/18:06] <Azmodan> lol, I got a 5mb scsi here
[05 Jan/18:06] <CJ^> try entering in the HDD manually..
[05 Jan/18:06] <CJ^> not just autodetect
[05 Jan/18:06] <CJ^> enter in the info found on top
[05 Jan/18:06] <CJ^> and see it fi works that way
[05 Jan/18:06] <TurnIt> I've tried that, too
[05 Jan/18:06] <TurnIt> no go :(
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[05 Jan/18:07] <CJ^> tried the drive in another system then?
[05 Jan/18:07] <TurnIt> nope...good idy, though
[05 Jan/18:07] <TurnIt> will do.  I've had people over my shoulder all day
[05 Jan/18:07] <TurnIt> client, etc :(
[05 Jan/18:07] <CJ^> might tell ya if its the drive or not...
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[05 Jan/18:07] <TurnIt> true enough
[05 Jan/18:08] <TurnIt> I hope I can get this working...
[05 Jan/18:08] <TurnIt> kind of a vacation project while my college is on break...
[05 Jan/18:08] <pyrokiwi> ahha
[05 Jan/18:08] <TurnIt> thought it would just go right together...never had this much problem!
[05 Jan/18:11] <TurnIt> there are always quirks, but I have spent *way* more time on this than I had envisioned as worst case
[05 Jan/18:11] <pyrokiwi> hmmm yeh funny thing to happen
[05 Jan/18:12] <TurnIt> ok...well, I'll try the drive in my machine and see if it can "remember" that it's a 15 gig one
[05 Jan/18:12] <TurnIt> I had thought that the mainboard might have a prob?
[05 Jan/18:12] <TurnIt> what do you guys think about that theory?
[05 Jan/18:13] <pyrokiwi> hmmm maybe
[05 Jan/18:13] <pyrokiwi> there may be something at www.motherboards.org if it is a mb "fault" u may want to check it out
[05 Jan/18:13] <LosGuy> try it as master / slave on the other IDE ?
[05 Jan/18:14] <TurnIt> ok, sounds good
[05 Jan/18:17] <TurnIt> thanks guys.  I'll see if those suggestions get me anywhere.  I was just so sure the flash was going to do it when I saw that the latest version was a fix for large drives
[05 Jan/18:17] <TurnIt> cya
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[05 Jan/18:17] <pyrokiwi> sya
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[05 Jan/18:37] <kdsplace> hi
[05 Jan/18:37] <kdsplace> Anyone here have a cd rw?
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[05 Jan/18:37] <LosGuy> not I just cdr
[05 Jan/18:38] <kdsplace> damn
[05 Jan/18:38] <kdsplace> I bouhgt this cd rw for 200
[05 Jan/18:38] <kdsplace> I was wondering if I could dlete one file
[05 Jan/18:38] <LosGuy> what file?
[05 Jan/18:38] <kdsplace> Any file
[05 Jan/18:38] <LosGuy> oic
[05 Jan/18:39] <kdsplace> I have thisone file on my cd
[05 Jan/18:39] <kdsplace> I dont want to have to dlete the whole cd
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[05 Jan/18:40] <LosGuy> hmm let me check with someone that does have one.. if I can
[05 Jan/18:41] <Deton8R> uh, once a file is on the cd, it's usually there forever
[05 Jan/18:41] <Deton8R> except when it's a cdrw
[05 Jan/18:41] <Deton8R> in which case, you can erase it...but usually not delete a file
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[05 Jan/18:41] <LosGuy> it just writes a new TOC?
[05 Jan/18:41] <kdsplace> I have it on a cd rw
[05 Jan/18:42] <LosGuy> but will the space be recovered?
[05 Jan/18:42] <kdsplace> i know how one file is forever on cd r
[05 Jan/18:42] <kdsplace> But I want a file off a cd RW
[05 Jan/18:42] <LosGuy> what is the big deal... copy the cd to your HD and then try it
[05 Jan/18:42] <kdsplace> Its just one file
[05 Jan/18:42] <Deton8R> no, you can't
[05 Jan/18:42] <LosGuy> and if it dont work then burn it again on the cdrw without that file
[05 Jan/18:43] <kdsplace> If I do that, my hd will wear out
[05 Jan/18:44] <LosGuy> oh it will wear out eventually anyway... that should not do it by itself
[05 Jan/18:44] <LosGuy> I think it depends on the software you used and the way you formated the disk
[05 Jan/18:45] <LosGuy> a little birdy just told me that
[05 Jan/18:45] <kdsplace> oh really?
[05 Jan/18:45] <kdsplace> I thought the more files you put on it, the sooner it wears out
[05 Jan/18:45] <Deton8R> what writer software are you using?
[05 Jan/18:45] + Azmodan glares at losguy
[05 Jan/18:45] <kdsplace> adaptec cd creator
[05 Jan/18:46] <kdsplace> Is there a program that lets you dlete one file from a cd rw without fomating the whole disk?
[05 Jan/18:46] <Deton8R> yes
[05 Jan/18:46] <kdsplace> YES!
[05 Jan/18:46] <kdsplace> finally
[05 Jan/18:47] <kdsplace> sorry deton
[05 Jan/18:47] <kdsplace> whats the program called?
[05 Jan/18:47] <kdsplace> Ill give anything for it
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[05 Jan/18:47] <kdsplace> PLEASe help
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[05 Jan/18:47] <kdsplace> I am begginf
[05 Jan/18:48] <kdsplace> I will give anything for it
[05 Jan/18:48] <kdsplace> ANYTHING
[05 Jan/18:48] <LosGuy> Direct CD 3.0 (per the birdy)
[05 Jan/18:48] <Deton8R> DirecdCD
[05 Jan/18:48] <Deton8R> go buy it
[05 Jan/18:48] <LosGuy> but ... it probaby had to be made with that program
[05 Jan/18:49] <kdsplace> damn
[05 Jan/18:49] <kdsplace> where can i download it?
[05 Jan/18:49] <Deton8R> that's it
[05 Jan/18:49] <LosGuy> sheez
[05 Jan/18:49] <LosGuy> go buy it
[05 Jan/18:49] <CJ^> yeap go buy it...
[05 Jan/18:49] <CJ^> NOW
[05 Jan/18:49] <kdsplace> ok
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[05 Jan/18:49] <CJ^> run to the store... dont pass go.....
[05 Jan/18:51] ! Kassaway is known as Sham^
[05 Jan/18:55] <LosGuy> nice guy
[05 Jan/18:55] <LosGuy> kdsplace is ~kds@dialup-209.246.83.93.NewYork2.Level3.net * ask asshole
[05 Jan/18:55] <LosGuy> kdsplace on #sexvideo 
[05 Jan/18:55] <CJ^> :P
[05 Jan/18:55] <CJ^> so  i hang out in #wild_n_sexy!
[05 Jan/18:57] <LosGuy> but you dont cuss people out that /whois you either
[05 Jan/18:57] <CJ^> sometimes...
[05 Jan/18:57] <CJ^> depends...heh
[05 Jan/18:57] <LosGuy> hah
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[05 Jan/19:48] <islander^> anyone know how to make a start up diskette?
[05 Jan/19:48] <LosGuy> islander^
[05 Jan/19:48] <LosGuy> do you have win98 installed?
[05 Jan/19:49] <islander^> yes
[05 Jan/19:49] <islander^> i cant seem to find where to make it
[05 Jan/19:49] <islander^> i dont know where i put my copy
[05 Jan/19:49] <LosGuy> control panel
[05 Jan/19:49] <LosGuy> add remove programs
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[05 Jan/19:49] <LosGuy> far right tab
[05 Jan/19:49] <islander^> ack
[05 Jan/19:49] <islander^> i see it
[05 Jan/19:49] <islander^> sorry for lame question
[05 Jan/19:49] <islander^> thanks LosGuy
[05 Jan/19:50] <LosGuy> np
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[05 Jan/19:57] <Squall14> I need help!!!
[05 Jan/19:57] <Squall14> hello!!!
[05 Jan/19:58] <Squall14> please....
[05 Jan/19:59] <Squall14> somebody? anybody?
[05 Jan/19:59] <Squall14> help me~!
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[05 Jan/20:02] <pyrokiwi> j therock
[05 Jan/20:02] <pyrokiwi> woops
[05 Jan/20:04] <pyrokiwi> hiya ppls
[05 Jan/20:04] <Squall14> hey
[05 Jan/20:04] <Squall14> I need help
[05 Jan/20:05] <pyrokiwi> wat with?
[05 Jan/20:05] <Squall14> DirectX
[05 Jan/20:05] <Squall14> pls help me...
[05 Jan/20:06] <pyrokiwi> wat with it?
[05 Jan/20:06] <Squall14> in the DX Media files at DXdiag.exe, I get this problem:
[05 Jan/20:06] <Squall14> The file iac25_32.ax is a beta version, which is unsupport and could problems. You should reinstall DirectX Media to get the latest version.
[05 Jan/20:07] <pyrokiwi> hmmm dunno reinstall it
[05 Jan/20:07] <Squall14> after install the latest ver. of DirectX Midia
[05 Jan/20:07] <Squall14> it still happen...
[05 Jan/20:09] <Squall14> thankx anyway....
[05 Jan/20:10] <Squall14> oh yeah
[05 Jan/20:10] <Squall14> hey
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[05 Jan/20:14] <Squall14> ...
[05 Jan/20:14] <pyrokiwi> >?<
[05 Jan/20:15] <Squall14> what ver of directx do u use?
[05 Jan/20:15] <Azmodan> Squall14, have you tried useing windows update to see if it will let you download the latest component?
[05 Jan/20:15] <pyrokiwi> cant remember
[05 Jan/20:15] <Squall14> ya
[05 Jan/20:16] <Squall14> what 's the type of this file? iac25_32.ax
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[05 Jan/20:17] <|NiTRoX|> allo
[05 Jan/20:17] <|NiTRoX|> ya tu quelqun qui pourrait m`envoyer un bot???
[05 Jan/20:18] <LosGuy> english only
[05 Jan/20:18] <|NiTRoX|> you have a bot for me??
[05 Jan/20:18] <|NiTRoX|> do
[05 Jan/20:19] <LosGuy> that is a win98 question?
[05 Jan/20:19] <|NiTRoX|> what??
[05 Jan/20:19] <LosGuy> go to www.mircscripts.com and download Deton8r script it has a bot in it
[05 Jan/20:20] <Squall14> yo, guys...pls help me out....
[05 Jan/20:20] <LosGuy> Squall14 you installed a beta version of DX?
[05 Jan/20:20] <Squall14> no
[05 Jan/20:20] <Squall14> DirectX 7a
[05 Jan/20:20] <Squall14> I just download yesterday
[05 Jan/20:21] <LosGuy> prior to that I mean?
[05 Jan/20:21] <Squall14> ?
[05 Jan/20:21] <LosGuy> è
[05 Jan/20:21] <Azmodan> a beta of dx media wasn't it?
[05 Jan/20:21] <LosGuy> sheez
[05 Jan/20:21] <LosGuy> tried add remove 
[05 Jan/20:21] <Squall14> hmm..
[05 Jan/20:22] <Squall14> I download the DX Media today it still happen...
[05 Jan/20:22] <LosGuy> I know that in the past not all the MS beta stuff has been removeable..but if your a beta you would know that
[05 Jan/20:22] <Squall14> I dunno..
[05 Jan/20:23] <Azmodan> IMO if you beta software you should have a backup to go back to
[05 Jan/20:23] <LosGuy> perhaps you should talk to the person that does know
[05 Jan/20:23] <Squall14> anyway, what 's the this file? iac25_32.ax and what does it do?
[05 Jan/20:24] <Azmodan> no idea
[05 Jan/20:24] <Squall14> ....
[05 Jan/20:24] <Azmodan> I don't have it
[05 Jan/20:24] <LosGuy> try deja.com search for that file name
[05 Jan/20:24] <Squall14> I find it on c:/windows/system/
[05 Jan/20:24] <LosGuy> Indeo® audio software
[05 Jan/20:24] <Squall14> I'll chect out
[05 Jan/20:24] <LosGuy> that is what it is
[05 Jan/20:25] <Squall14> I c
[05 Jan/20:25] <Squall14> then I should download a new?
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[05 Jan/20:25] <LosGuy> looks like the media player
[05 Jan/20:25] <Squall14> ?
[05 Jan/20:27] <Squall14> I had downloaded the latest ver. of Windows Media player I going to install it now...pls wait a while 
[05 Jan/20:27] <Squall14> Brb..
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[05 Jan/20:33] <Squall14> the problem still happen...
[05 Jan/20:35] <Squall14> hello~~!?
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[05 Jan/20:38] <LosGuy> and you searched deja.com already I guess
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[05 Jan/20:38] <Squall14> yes..
[05 Jan/20:38] <Squall14> I need the latest ver. of indeo?
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[05 Jan/20:39] <Visa> question
[05 Jan/20:39] <Visa> how can I install the upgrade win98SE on a computer with a blank hard drive
[05 Jan/20:39] <Squall14> some1 there has my problem too...
[05 Jan/20:39] <Visa> cause I misplaced my WIn95 cd
[05 Jan/20:39] <Visa> and so I can't install it
[05 Jan/20:39] <Visa> first
[05 Jan/20:40] <LosGuy> do you have win3.1
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[05 Jan/20:44] <Visa> me 
[05 Jan/20:44] <Visa> no
[05 Jan/20:44] <LosGuy> yer hosed then... why would you buy the upgrade if you dont have the win95 cdrom?
[05 Jan/20:45] <Visa> I do
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[05 Jan/20:45] <Weasil> i need help
[05 Jan/20:45] <Visa> I had win95 installed
[05 Jan/20:45] <Visa> We moved and my win95 cd is in a box
[05 Jan/20:45] <Visa> somewhere
[05 Jan/20:45] <Weasil> how do i use my win98 full cd as an upgrade?
[05 Jan/20:46] <Visa> why would you
[05 Jan/20:46] <LosGuy> Weasil it should do it just fine.. (OEM wont however)
[05 Jan/20:46] <Visa> WEAS
[05 Jan/20:46] <Weasil> it gives a previous os error
[05 Jan/20:47] <LosGuy> you have a retail version or OEM
[05 Jan/20:47] <Weasil> oem
[05 Jan/20:47] <LosGuy> then it wont do it
[05 Jan/20:47] <LosGuy> it is made for clean installs only 
[05 Jan/20:47] <LosGuy> not upgrades
[05 Jan/20:47] <Weasil> i just gotta rename some files
[05 Jan/20:47] <LosGuy> nope
[05 Jan/20:47] <Weasil> but not sure which ones
[05 Jan/20:48] <Weasil> my vendor said it would work
[05 Jan/20:48] <LosGuy> worked in win95 not in win98
[05 Jan/20:48] <LosGuy> take it back then
[05 Jan/20:48] <Weasil> what about using setup switches?
[05 Jan/20:48] <Weasil> will anything bypass the previous os check?
[05 Jan/20:49] <LosGuy> Weasil you have a version that was made to be installed clean
[05 Jan/20:50] <Weasil> shoot
[05 Jan/20:50] <Weasil> ok, heres a question for you.
[05 Jan/20:50] <Weasil> is it possible to share a internet connection on a network if you don't use the win98 dialer?
[05 Jan/20:51] <LosGuy> yes
[05 Jan/20:51] <Weasil> with netzero?
[05 Jan/20:51] <LosGuy> yeah I have heard of it being done
[05 Jan/20:51] <LosGuy> to avoid popups
[05 Jan/20:51] <Visa> you can try to erase the windows dir
[05 Jan/20:51] <Weasil> how would i go about it?
[05 Jan/20:52] <Weasil> yea right erase the windows dir hehe
[05 Jan/20:52] <Visa> I not kidding
[05 Jan/20:52] <LosGuy> Weasil I dont know why it would be any different
[05 Jan/20:52] <Visa> do it when you boot from a boot disk
[05 Jan/20:52] <LosGuy> once your connected 
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[05 Jan/20:53] <Weasil> do i just specify a gateway?
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[05 Jan/20:53] <Weasil> and setup the other computer to connect via lan?
[05 Jan/20:53] <LosGuy> I assume your talking about ICS.
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[05 Jan/20:53] <LosGuy> yeah and it is easier with ICS if you have the host static IP and client is dynamic
[05 Jan/20:53] <Squall14> .... still can't fix it........
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[05 Jan/20:54] <Weasil> do both systems need ics?
[05 Jan/20:54] <LosGuy> no
[05 Jan/20:54] <LosGuy> only the computer with the modem
[05 Jan/20:54] <Weasil> just host?
[05 Jan/20:54] <LosGuy> yeah
[05 Jan/20:54] <Weasil> is it easy to setup?
[05 Jan/20:55] <LosGuy> for most people 
[05 Jan/20:55] <LosGuy> takes me about 2 minutes usually
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[05 Jan/20:55] <Weasil> can ya help me with it?
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[05 Jan/20:55] <LosGuy> you will make a disk during install on the host
[05 Jan/20:55] <LosGuy> all you really need to do is run that one
[05 Jan/20:55] <LosGuy> on the client
[05 Jan/20:56] <LosGuy> or do what we just talked baout on the client
[05 Jan/20:56] <Weasil> do i need a gateway?
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[05 Jan/20:56] <Weasil> or any more dns?
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[05 Jan/20:56] <LosGuy> nope
[05 Jan/20:56] <Weasil> thanx
[05 Jan/20:56] <LosGuy> you can
[05 Jan/20:56] <LosGuy> but you dont need to
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[05 Jan/21:05] <Squall14> c ya guys...
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[05 Jan/22:27] <alyosha> hi
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[05 Jan/22:28] <Los-Guy> hi
[05 Jan/22:30] <alyosha> do you remeber dos commands?
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[05 Jan/22:39] <Los-Guy> some
[05 Jan/22:39] <Los-Guy> specificly?
[05 Jan/22:44] <alyosha> I want to run a files ... like ini and reg and all those in windows but I forgot the command
[05 Jan/22:44] <Los-Guy> run them?
[05 Jan/22:45] <alyosha> there is a windows that pops up like an index file
[05 Jan/22:45] <alyosha> it's run edit or something like that
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[05 Jan/22:45] <Los-Guy> like "start regedit" 
[05 Jan/22:46] <Los-Guy> but running a .ini or .reg file... 
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[05 Jan/22:46] <alyosha> maybe that's it
[05 Jan/22:46] <Los-Guy> those are not executeable files... another program must interpret them
[05 Jan/22:46] <alyosha> no not those it has the ini file in it
[05 Jan/22:47] <Los-Guy> ie start explorer.exe from a dos box will cause explorer to run
[05 Jan/22:47] <alyosha> it pops up lie an index folder
[05 Jan/22:47] <alyosha> lie = like
[05 Jan/22:47] <alyosha> you tupe it in run
[05 Jan/22:47] <Los-Guy> do you mean msconfig.exe  ?
[05 Jan/22:47] <Los-Guy> I dont know what index folder your talking about
[05 Jan/22:48] <alyosha> it's a window and when it open up all these files are there like index cards
[05 Jan/22:48] <CJ^> sysedit
[05 Jan/22:48] <Los-Guy> ahh
[05 Jan/22:48] <Los-Guy> old stuff
[05 Jan/22:48] <CJ^> yeap
[05 Jan/22:48] <alyosha> yep thatos ot
[05 Jan/22:48] <CJ^> msconfig is better to use than sysedit
[05 Jan/22:48] <alyosha> er that's it!
[05 Jan/22:49] <alyosha> I want to fix a dos file that's giving me an error
[05 Jan/22:49] <CJ^> what dos file???
[05 Jan/22:49] <CJ^> autoexec?  config.sys?  win.ini?
[05 Jan/22:49] <KNGFaisal> Can anyone tell me How i can use Proxy server for Downloading .Zip file?
[05 Jan/22:49] <CJ^> all those can be accessed from msconfig
[05 Jan/22:49] <KNGFaisal> and what is the basic use of proxy in downloading?
[05 Jan/22:50] <alyosha> not usre it says something when I boot, some file it out of place
[05 Jan/22:50] <CJ^> alyosha  then use msconfig
[05 Jan/22:50] <alyosha> knwo where to put logo=no
[05 Jan/22:50] <Los-Guy> msdos.sys
[05 Jan/22:51] <alyosha> msconfig.sys doesn't work in run
[05 Jan/22:51] <Los-Guy> no
[05 Jan/22:51] <CJ^> no
[05 Jan/22:51] <Los-Guy> msconfig.exe
[05 Jan/22:51] <CJ^> staret>run>msconfig
[05 Jan/22:52] <alyosha> nmope doesn't work
[05 Jan/22:52] <Los-Guy> you have win98?
[05 Jan/22:53] <alyosha> nope 95
[05 Jan/22:53] <Los-Guy> duh
[05 Jan/22:53] <CJ^> geeze
[05 Jan/22:53] <CJ^> then use sysedit
[05 Jan/22:54] <alyosha> I'm thinking of win98 though, found an oem for $60
[05 Jan/22:54] <KNGFaisal> anyone is Master in Proxy settings?
[05 Jan/22:54] <CJ^> KNG.. what proxy?
[05 Jan/22:54] <CJ^> MS Proxy?
[05 Jan/22:54] <Los-Guy> http://automateddistributing.com/autosoftware/index.html  <---try that 
[05 Jan/22:54] <Los-Guy> very cheap win98
[05 Jan/22:55] <CJ^> oh that site..
[05 Jan/22:55] <CJ^> yeah
[05 Jan/22:55] <alyosha> no manuals but it's a legit copy
[05 Jan/22:55] <CJ^> dont kwo how he does it either...
[05 Jan/22:55] <CJ^> Alyosha...  all legal copies come with the manual...
[05 Jan/22:55] <CJ^> all
[05 Jan/22:55] <CJ^> no msgs KNGF
[05 Jan/22:55] <CJ^> even OEM
[05 Jan/22:56] <alyosha> that's not what I was told
[05 Jan/22:56] <Los-Guy> trust CJ^ he knows
[05 Jan/22:56] <CJ^> OEM from manufactures  like if someone sells you a copy that has Micron printed on it.. 
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[05 Jan/22:56] <CJ^> its an illegal copy....
[05 Jan/22:57] <alyosha> these are oem from hard drives
[05 Jan/22:57] <CJ^> its nto intended for sale to the consumer... unless it comes witht eh Micron PC
[05 Jan/22:57] <alyosha> these guys buy in bulk
[05 Jan/22:57] <CJ^> OEM copies sold through a re-seller will have the manual with it
[05 Jan/22:57] <CJ^> doesn matter..
[05 Jan/22:57] <CJ^> im here to tell you...
[05 Jan/22:57] <alyosha> it's all over th net and all over the country, if this was illegal they would be out of bisiness
[05 Jan/22:57] <CJ^> i sold resale.. i know the "tricks"
[05 Jan/22:57] <CJ^> no
[05 Jan/22:57] <CJ^> not true...
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[05 Jan/22:58] <alyosha> I got the names at price watch
[05 Jan/22:58] <CJ^> drugs are all over the country.. and they are illegal  and still sold..
[05 Jan/22:58] <CJ^> doesnt matter
[05 Jan/22:58] <alyosha> so what's the trick?
[05 Jan/22:58] <CJ^> I was a reseller...
[05 Jan/22:58] <KNGFaisal> well Cj^ i m using Go!zilla for downloading.....i have Proxy sever too...but i dont know how to use it in proper way.
[05 Jan/22:58] <CJ^> the trick is  you are the sucker...
[05 Jan/22:58] <alyosha> this is MS, you fdon't mess with bill
[05 Jan/22:58] <CJ^> and i can tell you anythgin cause you believe it...   thats how its done...
[05 Jan/22:58] <CJ^> HA
[05 Jan/22:58] <CJ^> where the heck have you been...
[05 Jan/22:59] <alyosha> no I am asking questions so educate me
[05 Jan/22:59] <CJ^> pirates dont care..
[05 Jan/22:59] <CJ^> non
[05 Jan/22:59] <CJ^> no
[05 Jan/22:59] <CJ^> im not putting you down..
[05 Jan/22:59] <CJ^> i telling you what they think...
[05 Jan/22:59] <KNGFaisal> CJ^ ?
[05 Jan/22:59] <CJ^> they look at you as a sucker...
[05 Jan/22:59] <alyosha> these are not pirates
[05 Jan/22:59] <alyosha> these are all legit business
[05 Jan/22:59] <CJ^> KNGF  what proxy server??? MS proxy server??
[05 Jan/22:59] <CJ^> aly....
[05 Jan/22:59] <CJ^> go for it....
[05 Jan/22:59] <CJ^> have fun
[05 Jan/23:00] <CJ^> its a real copy   i know it is...
[05 Jan/23:00] <CJ^> BUT    its not a legal one...
[05 Jan/23:00] <alyosha> gp tp pricewatch.com
[05 Jan/23:00] <CJ^> <<< used to sell them till i got educated...
[05 Jan/23:00] <KNGFaisal> CJ^ nope its my "Internet Sevice providers" Proxy Server!
[05 Jan/23:00] <CJ^> dude... telling ya...
[05 Jan/23:00] <CJ^> >
[05 Jan/23:00] <alyosha> how are not legit if they are real?
[05 Jan/23:00] <CJ^> alyosha... i can make a copy of win98   
[05 Jan/23:00] <CJ^> its a real copy.. it works...
[05 Jan/23:00] <CJ^> but its illegal..
[05 Jan/23:00] <CJ^> NOW..
[05 Jan/23:01] <CJ^> what they do.. is buy bulk from say  Compaq....
[05 Jan/23:01] <CJ^> now  the trick is.. these are only to be sold WITH a compaq computer...
[05 Jan/23:01] <CJ^> but Compaq doesnt care..
[05 Jan/23:01] <KNGFaisal> CJ^ i think u r Damn Buzy!
[05 Jan/23:01] <CJ^> nothign stops them from selling it to say  MicroWay...
[05 Jan/23:02] <CJ^> KNGF   if you ISP has a proxy server  and you are having trouble with it.. call them...
[05 Jan/23:02] <CJ^> thats the best route...
[05 Jan/23:02] <alyosha> do you really think these guys would still be in biz with addresses and phone numbers and advertising on a major web page if they weren't.. MS would be all over them
[05 Jan/23:02] <CJ^> YES
[05 Jan/23:02] <CJ^> they would
[05 Jan/23:02] <alyosha> Microway?
[05 Jan/23:02] <CJ^> they do it all the time...
[05 Jan/23:02] <CJ^> thats the thing...
[05 Jan/23:02] <CJ^> yes Microway...
[05 Jan/23:02] <CJ^> very large legit re-seller..
[05 Jan/23:02] <alyosha> the dif is you do not get the manual the box or the tech support
[05 Jan/23:03] <KNGFaisal> CJ^ my ISP staff is Kidoo and they dont have experiance with Proxy! so i need a master of proxy settings.
[05 Jan/23:03] <CJ^> the diff.. is that its nto legal.. and they sell it to suckers all the time..
[05 Jan/23:03] <alyosha> but you get the certifacate and the disc
[05 Jan/23:03] <Los-Guy> just call 1(800)RULEGIT and ask em alyosha
[05 Jan/23:03] <CJ^> KNGF.. if they have a proxy  did they give you the settings to access teh Inet through it??
[05 Jan/23:04] <alyosha> why hasn't MS stopped them, bill does it all the time
[05 Jan/23:04] <CJ^> first thing they will ask you for is the number off the manual alyosha
[05 Jan/23:04] <CJ^> they do stop them alyosha..
[05 Jan/23:04] <CJ^> they do
[05 Jan/23:04] <CJ^> it takes time and money
[05 Jan/23:04] <KNGFaisal> CJ^ yeah i have settings... but can i use it for Downloading....fast downloading?
[05 Jan/23:04] <CJ^> the gov steps in..
[05 Jan/23:04] <CJ^> its not a small legal matter..
[05 Jan/23:04] <alyosha> when ever you buy oem you can't call MS anyway you have to call the manufactuer
[05 Jan/23:05] <CJ^> at $250,000 a pop  per copy.. its a high stakes felony
[05 Jan/23:05] <CJ^> NO
[05 Jan/23:05] <CJ^> you dont 
[05 Jan/23:05] <CJ^> there are many versions of OEM...
[05 Jan/23:05] <CJ^> KNGF  yes
[05 Jan/23:05] <alyosha> when I bought my puter it came with windows and when I called ms they said call hp
[05 Jan/23:05] <CJ^> those settings are just for you to plug into whatever app you need to use that can access the Inte through Proxy...
[05 Jan/23:05] <CJ^> right alyosha..
[05 Jan/23:05] <CJ^> BUT
[05 Jan/23:06] <CJ^> thats HP's OEM...
[05 Jan/23:06] <alyosha> but?
[05 Jan/23:06] <CJ^> see..
[05 Jan/23:06] <alyosha> these are oem from Hard Drives
[05 Jan/23:06] <CJ^> i can buy OEM froma re-seller...
[05 Jan/23:06] <alyosha> and?
[05 Jan/23:06] <CJ^> there are many versions of OEM...
[05 Jan/23:06] <CJ^> you arent aware...
[05 Jan/23:06] <CJ^> ive been there on both sides.. \
[05 Jan/23:06] <CJ^> buying and sellign 
[05 Jan/23:07] <KNGFaisal> CJ^ i c 
[05 Jan/23:07] <KNGFaisal> CJ^ thanx ...lemme try!
[05 Jan/23:07] <alyosha> so if I own win3.1 and trash my old computer I still can use 3.1 on my new computer
[05 Jan/23:07] <CJ^> KNGF  all ya need to do is plug inthe proxy settings  if the app supports it.. and your ok...
[05 Jan/23:07] <CJ^> yes alyosha
[05 Jan/23:07] <CJ^> you paid for it..
[05 Jan/23:08] <CJ^> ouy can use it any ONE computer...
[05 Jan/23:08] <alyosha> right
[05 Jan/23:11] <CJ^> a single computer at a time...
[05 Jan/23:11] <alyosha> so if these oem's aren't used what's the dif?
[05 Jan/23:11] <CJ^> it breaks the aggreement between MS and the OEM that made them....
[05 Jan/23:11] <alyosha> IOW if the computers are trashed or used for parts why can't I use the OEM
[05 Jan/23:11] <KNGFaisal> hmmm
[05 Jan/23:11] <CJ^> if you call 1-800rulegit  and ask tehm.. they can explain whats right and wrong....
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[06 Jan/06:36] <bl1p> What does "W302" error mean?
[06 Jan/06:37] <bl1p> Also, can someone recommend a "good" windows optimization program for windows 98 other then winboost?
[06 Jan/06:37] * bl1p would like a shareware/freeware version.
[06 Jan/06:37] * bl1p has no cash. :P
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[06 Jan/06:49] <Setien_> is there a way to change the drive letters of the harddisks of win89 ?
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[06 Jan/06:52] <Setien_> i/j windows
[06 Jan/06:52] <bl1p> Pardon?
[06 Jan/06:52] <bl1p> Yes there is.
[06 Jan/06:54] <Setien_> how ?
[06 Jan/06:54] <Setien_> i tried going into the properties of the disk in device managher like you can with CD drives
[06 Jan/06:54] <Setien_> that doesn't work
[06 Jan/06:55] <Setien_> And I don't want to install some enormous tool like norton systools or anything...
[06 Jan/06:55] <Setien_> is there a simple way of doing it ?
[06 Jan/06:55] <Setien_> I don't understand why it changed them in the first place.
[06 Jan/06:55] <Setien_> I added a new harddrive and then it put that driev in between the two partitions on my first disk
[06 Jan/06:55] <Setien_> gotta hate that.
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[06 Jan/07:27] <Kraftwerk> hi?
[06 Jan/07:28] <CJ^> yes
[06 Jan/07:28] <Kraftwerk> anyone to helpme ? I want to save my mesages from outlook express......before i format my hd......
[06 Jan/07:29] <CJ^> C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\Identities\{321D7EC0-955C-11D3-A5CE-9E5F85589D2F}\Microsoft\Outlook Express   <<< there
[06 Jan/07:29] <CJ^> or there abouts...
[06 Jan/07:30] <CJ^> thats where all the email msgs and newsgroups you used are stored...
[06 Jan/07:30] <Kraftwerk> can i import them later?
[06 Jan/07:31] <CJ^> yes
[06 Jan/07:31] <CJ^> or simply place them back in this same dir after re-install...
[06 Jan/07:31] <Kraftwerk> tnx a lot!!!
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[06 Jan/07:35] <rusted_cj> hello
[06 Jan/07:35] <rusted_cj> where do I need to go to make a boot disk?
[06 Jan/07:36] <CJ^> start>settings>control panel>add/remove programs/windows start up tab
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[06 Jan/07:37] <PupaZZ> hi there
[06 Jan/07:37] <rusted_cj> do you know what files they are?
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[06 Jan/07:38] <CJ^> yes?
[06 Jan/07:38] <rusted_cj> command.com
[06 Jan/07:38] <CJ^> rusted thats where you make the boot disk...
[06 Jan/07:38] <rusted_cj> what are they rest?
[06 Jan/07:39] <CJ^> `op
[06 Jan/07:39] @ mode #win98 [+o CJ^] by Athena!itsnotme@ppp35.US-GOVT.org
[06 Jan/07:39] <rusted_cj> I know but it is asking for my original cd and I dont have it on me
[06 Jan/07:39] <CJ^> rusted.. why?  it makes the boot disk for you in win98 
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[06 Jan/07:40] <CJ^> right where i told ya
[06 Jan/07:40] <CJ^> then your stuck...
[06 Jan/07:40] <rusted_cj> do you know the files or not..I have 95 and it isnt doing it?
[06 Jan/07:40] <CJ^> you need that cd to make the boot disk...
[06 Jan/07:41] <rusted_cj> well I dont have it and I know it is only about 4 files so I need to know the filesa
[06 Jan/07:41] <CJ^> well  sorry this is #win98  not 95  ask in #win95 or #windows95
[06 Jan/07:41] <CJ^> you can make a bootable disk
[06 Jan/07:41] <CJ^> either in the command promt or with the format in explorer...
[06 Jan/07:42] <CJ^> just do this..
[06 Jan/07:42] <CJ^> format  /s a:\
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[06 Jan/07:50] * FireHawk slaps everyone, but especially Aphrodite with a big trout, then hits Aphrodite on the head with a bowling ball. [Go ahead and ban me!]
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[06 Jan/07:59] <CJ^> `insult firehawk
[06 Jan/08:00] <CJ^> `insult firehawk
[06 Jan/08:02] <CJ^> `insult Anavrin7
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[06 Jan/08:04] <CJbat> `op
[06 Jan/08:04] <CJbat> `op
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[06 Jan/08:08] <CJ^> `op
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[06 Jan/08:09] <CJ^> `insult anavrin7
[06 Jan/08:23] <CJ^> `insult anavrin7
[06 Jan/08:23] <CJ^> `insult anavrin7
[06 Jan/08:23] <CJ^> `insult anavrin7
[06 Jan/08:23] <CJ^> `insult anavrin7
[06 Jan/08:23] <wez> hmmm who was that dud?
[06 Jan/08:23] <CJ^> some jerk that has been buggin me...
[06 Jan/08:24] <wez> killem....
[06 Jan/08:26] <CJ^> some jerk that has been buggin me...
[06 Jan/08:26] <CJ^> `insult anavrin7
[06 Jan/08:26] <CJ^> `insult anavrin7
[06 Jan/08:26] <CJ^> `insult anavrin7
[06 Jan/08:26] <CJ^> `insult anavrin7
[06 Jan/08:26] <CJ^> `insult anavrin7
[06 Jan/08:26] <CJ^> `insult anavrin7
[06 Jan/08:26] <CJ^> gotta love it...
[06 Jan/08:26] <wez> it is fun....
[06 Jan/08:26] <CJ^> :P
[06 Jan/08:27] <CJ^> oh well  got him on ignore now
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[06 Jan/08:27] <dreamer17> hi @ll
[06 Jan/08:27] <CJ^> hey
[06 Jan/08:28] <dreamer17> i need new office 97 assistenten who kan help me
[06 Jan/08:28] <dreamer17> i cant find any on the ms Homepage
[06 Jan/08:28] <CJ^> assitance with what in office?
[06 Jan/08:29] <dreamer17> yea
[06 Jan/08:29] <CJ^> well.. assitance with what??  office is a lot of apps...
[06 Jan/08:31] <dreamer17> ?????
[06 Jan/08:32] <CJ^> well.. what about Office 97 do you need help with?
[06 Jan/08:32] <CJ^> wait...
[06 Jan/08:32] <dreamer17> ok
[06 Jan/08:33] <CJ^> you want the Office Assitants... the animated "Help" friends?
[06 Jan/08:35] <dreamer17> yea
[06 Jan/08:35] <CJ^> well those would be at MS's site if there are any more to get...
[06 Jan/08:36] <dreamer17> ok
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[06 Jan/08:39] <ElCid> Hello :0
[06 Jan/08:39] <ElCid> what is the web site of Frontpage  software ?
[06 Jan/08:40] <wez> microsoft.com
[06 Jan/08:40] <CJ^> www.microsoft.com/office
[06 Jan/08:40] <ElCid> can i d/l ther demo of www.microsoft.com/office ?
[06 Jan/08:41] <ElCid> can i d/l ther demo of Frontpage ?
[06 Jan/08:41] <CJ^> download.com
[06 Jan/08:41] <CJ^> might want to try there...
[06 Jan/08:41] <CJ^> at download.com you may be able to
[06 Jan/08:41] <ElCid> thank you
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[06 Jan/08:48] <ElCid> Re..
[06 Jan/08:48] <ElCid> what is the last version of FrontPage ?
[06 Jan/08:48] <ElCid> is it frontpage 98 ?
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[06 Jan/08:49] <CJ^> FP 2000
[06 Jan/08:49] <ElCid> thank you
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[06 Jan/08:50] <CJ^> along with all of the Office 2000 suite
[06 Jan/08:50] ! aBanG- is known as CyberSans
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[06 Jan/08:58] <wez> afternoon dood
[06 Jan/08:59] <walkndude> hello
[06 Jan/08:59] <wez> was kennst du?
[06 Jan/09:00] <walkndude> great
[06 Jan/09:00] <walkndude> working on a 286 ....big fun
[06 Jan/09:00] <wez> heheh not
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[06 Jan/09:02] <walkndude> hated not to take it home anyway
[06 Jan/09:02] <walkndude> they just wanted one to see if they could use a PC 
[06 Jan/09:02] <heel> anyone know of a program that won't let the computer boot up without entering a password?
[06 Jan/09:02] ! CyberSans is known as aBanG-
[06 Jan/09:02] <wez> i passed on an ancient upgraded to 386 server of some kind
[06 Jan/09:02] <wez> sitting on the dumpster...
[06 Jan/09:03] <walkndude> set a password in the bios
[06 Jan/09:03] <heel> ah. just do that from the bios settings or whatever?
[06 Jan/09:04] <CJ^> if yo9u computer is like that yes
[06 Jan/09:04] <CJ^> NOT all are..
[06 Jan/09:04] <heel> ok
[06 Jan/09:04] <heel> thanks
[06 Jan/09:04] <CJ^> some just set the password in the BIOS and thats all
[06 Jan/09:04] <walkndude> dozens of programs that will do that ..try www.download.com
[06 Jan/09:04] <CJ^> winfiles.com as well...
[06 Jan/09:05] <heel> i couldn't find any free ones that would do it before windows started
[06 Jan/09:05] <CJ^> there is one..
[06 Jan/09:05] <heel> plenty that would lock up windows as it starts up
[06 Jan/09:05] <heel> but none before
[06 Jan/09:05] <CJ^> i dont remember the link..
[06 Jan/09:05] <CJ^> but they are out there..
[06 Jan/09:05] <heel> well a BIOS pw will work just fine
[06 Jan/09:06] <heel> thanks again
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[06 Jan/09:06] <walkndude> just don't forget the pass
[06 Jan/09:06] <walkndude> late again
[06 Jan/09:07] <walkndude> no hard drive in this pile of junk
[06 Jan/09:07] <CJ^> www.freedsl.com
[06 Jan/09:07] <CJ^> can ya buy that  HA
[06 Jan/09:08] <walkndude> FreeDSL
[06 Jan/09:09] <CJ^> yeah
[06 Jan/09:09] <CJ^> go figure...
[06 Jan/09:09] <CJ^> doesnt happen till April 2000 though...
[06 Jan/09:09] <walkndude> I need to call my phone company suppose to be this month dsl will be here
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[06 Jan/09:09] <devilDigg> hello everyone
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[06 Jan/09:10] <walkndude> hi
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[06 Jan/10:19] <Jessica> hi everyone..may I as a MS question in here?
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[06 Jan/10:20] <Jessica> as=ask
[06 Jan/10:20] <Buhito> # Appears as SAGE
[06 Jan/10:20] <JamesE> "I don't dislike Microsoft for taking other people's ideas. I don't dislike them for being successful with that. I don't dislike them for their business practices. I do dislike them because they do all those things and then create third-rate products." 
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[06 Jan/10:20] <Buhito> (#G3::E010M1) Hi
[06 Jan/10:21] <Jessica> can anyone tell me how many cd's are in the retail version of office 2k?
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[06 Jan/11:59] <CJ^> you'll see a list of apps that start up when windows starts..
[06 Jan/12:00] <CJ^> Norton will be in there
[06 Jan/12:00] <Will_M> it loads before the startup programs do
[06 Jan/12:00] <CJ^> uncheck the box next to it
[06 Jan/12:00] <CJ^> then check in the autoexec.bat and config.sys
[06 Jan/12:00] <Will_M> the only norton ones are the virus checker and utilities
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[06 Jan/12:02] <Will_M> checked both of those as well teh only reference I see of norton is the navds which checks for virii when win loads
[06 Jan/12:02] <CJ^> the utilities loads norton crash guard as well
[06 Jan/12:03] <Will_M> navdx
[06 Jan/12:05] <Will_M> that is the crash guard enabler which modifies the ctrl+alt+del screen so include freeze-check and anti-freeze, it then uses the VxD
[06 Jan/12:06] <Will_M> but as I said before the VxD loads before that program has a chance to
[06 Jan/12:08] <Will_M> and I have disabled Crash Guard in the startup previously to no avail, the Vxd loads seperately from it
[06 Jan/12:09] <CJ^> well have ya tried uniinstalling Norton...
[06 Jan/12:09] <CJ^> erpsonally norton crash guard causes crashes  
[06 Jan/12:10] <Will_M> that I have not done, because the only option to uninstall is the entire systemworks 2.0 suite, no individual components
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[06 Jan/12:13] <CJ^> well you can unistall it..
[06 Jan/12:14] <CJ^> then install ONLY what you want
[06 Jan/12:14] <CJ^> thast how i did it
[06 Jan/12:14] <Will_M> I think I am going to have to do that then
[06 Jan/12:14] <Will_M> were you having the same problem?
[06 Jan/12:15] <CJ^> there are also updates at Symantec...
[06 Jan/12:15] <CJ^> a lot are needed
[06 Jan/12:15] <Will_M> got the latest updates
[06 Jan/12:15] <CJ^> was..
[06 Jan/12:16] <CJ^> so ipulled the whole suite and only installed what i wanted..
[06 Jan/12:16] <CJ^> and do not have them running at start up...
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[06 Jan/12:19] <smogg> anyone know why sometimes my icons will take on a different prog's icon? ie. mp3s look like folders
[06 Jan/12:20] <Will_M> that happens to me when explorer crashes, I think it has to do with that
[06 Jan/12:21] <smogg> hmm
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[06 Jan/12:56] <CJ^> hey dd
[06 Jan/12:56] <CJ^> yeah  see there isnt anything on the MS site reffering to data tables...
[06 Jan/12:56] <devilDigg> whats up cj?
[06 Jan/12:56] <devilDigg> i just came from buying a system
[06 Jan/12:56] <CJ^> the Media Ring application is the fault
[06 Jan/12:56] <CJ^> its the one nto updating the correct area code for itself.. nto win98
[06 Jan/12:57] <skoolbrat> CJ^:  They say that there program uses "the windows data tables for dialling".  
[06 Jan/12:58] <skoolbrat> CJ^:  Is there something in Win98 which lists the world's dialling codes?
[06 Jan/12:59] <CJ^> they are syaing its looking at the coutry or region code in DUN
[06 Jan/13:00] <skoolbrat> CJ^:  The code for dialling out of the country.  ie international access code.  It used to be 009, now its just 00
[06 Jan/13:03] <CJ^> hmm
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[06 Jan/13:03] <CJ^> the help db isnt making sense of this...
[06 Jan/13:03] <CJ^> now i under stand what yer saying...
[06 Jan/13:03] <CJ^> but...
[06 Jan/13:03] <CJ^> how to change or amend that... thats a differnt issue
[06 Jan/13:03] <spazztik> i have two windows machines networked to each other how can i get one to share its printer with the others?
[06 Jan/13:03] <skoolbrat> CJ^:  Glad it's not just me that is having trouble with this :)
[06 Jan/13:04] <CJ^> well.. see MS doens seem to address this...
[06 Jan/13:04] <CJ^> now.. the only thin i can suggest  is putting in the information manually to the DUN properties for the dial up you have
[06 Jan/13:05] <spazztik> ideas any one?
[06 Jan/13:05] <skoolbrat> CJ^: Unfortunately Media Ring just adds the numbers 009 in front of any other numbers.  It's too smart for its own good.
[06 Jan/13:06] <CJ^> spazz
[06 Jan/13:06] <CJ^> file and print sharing
[06 Jan/13:06] <CJ^> skool  see thats where i think its the media ring app thats at fault...
[06 Jan/13:06] <CJ^> spazz if you have file and print sharing enabled...
[06 Jan/13:07] <CJ^> you can share it
[06 Jan/13:07] <CJ^> www.helmig.com for more info...
[06 Jan/13:07] <spazztik> CJ^ thanks 
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[06 Jan/13:07] <spazztik> will go look at it more
[06 Jan/13:07] <COO-MAN> hola
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[06 Jan/13:09] <skoolbrat> CJ^: Don't disagree.  But I can't find any reference to dialling codes when I look in their files.
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[06 Jan/13:09] <skoolbrat> CJ^: Then again, I cant in the MS files either.    
[06 Jan/13:09] <COO-MAN> got a weird prob peeps... see if someone can help me..
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[06 Jan/13:09] <CJ^> right skool....  i know..
[06 Jan/13:09] <skoolbrat> CJ^: There is one reference in the Registry to 009.   It's a directry entry just called 009.  Could that be it?    
[06 Jan/13:09] <CJ^> i dont think it is...
[06 Jan/13:09] <CJ^> maybe a callt o MS tech suport would help...
[06 Jan/13:09] <COO-MAN> outlook express under options has "make oe my default email reader", when I hit it, it goes gray like it took it, hit 'OK' and then when you go back into it again, it is back to nonactive.
[06 Jan/13:10] <CJ^> cause  how to modify it  you shoudl have to...
[06 Jan/13:10] <CJ^> the DUN is smart enough to allow you to do what you ahve to
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[06 Jan/13:10] <skoolbrat> CJ^: Thanks CJ^.  But calling MS tech support and having to pay for the priveleage always gets me annoyed.
[06 Jan/13:10] <CJ^> yeah  i cant find any reference to updating the country codes...
[06 Jan/13:10] <CJ^> Coo  in OE4??
[06 Jan/13:11] <COO-MAN> 5
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[06 Jan/13:12] <skoolbrat> CJ^: Lets look at in reverse.   What would MS do if the time zones changed?    Obviously a patch would come out for the regional settings, but what would it change?
[06 Jan/13:12] <CJ^> yeah if they did yes
[06 Jan/13:12] <CJ^> i bet its just a matter of time till DUN gets an upgrade...
[06 Jan/13:12] <CJ^> Coo.. hmm
[06 Jan/13:13] <CJ^> what else do you have running for an Email app?
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[06 Jan/13:14] * devilDigg is working on a email checker right now.. im almost releasing it
[06 Jan/13:14] <john`> anyone know about ics?
[06 Jan/13:14] <devilDigg> its 90% done
[06 Jan/13:14] <CJ^> ICS  ICS  ICS.. grr
[06 Jan/13:15] <CJ^> whast teh issue with ICS?
[06 Jan/13:15] <skoolbrat> CJ^: LOL
[06 Jan/13:15] <COO-MAN> nuttin cj
[06 Jan/13:15] <COO-MAN> that is what i wa sthinking
[06 Jan/13:15] <CJ^> Coo.. then thats normal
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[06 Jan/13:15] <CJ^> its not going to worry abotu anything else... since nothign else is there to take its place...
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[06 Jan/13:18] <COO-MAN> no no no... when I click on a mailto hyper it says "no default browser detected!
[06 Jan/13:18] <COO-MAN> that is the prob.. when I got to make it default, it only stays default until I hit the ok button
[06 Jan/13:19] <CJ^> then IE doesnt know that the deafault email app os OE..
[06 Jan/13:19] <CJ^> but thats odd..
[06 Jan/13:19] <CJ^> unless your runnign netscape...
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[06 Jan/13:19] <COO-MAN> yeah, I am, but it's not default either! hehe
[06 Jan/13:20] <COO-MAN> I duno what to do.. prolly sfc and some troubleshooting in safemode
[06 Jan/13:20] <COO-MAN> just checking to see if anyone has heard of it before
[06 Jan/13:20] <CJ^> hmmm
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[06 Jan/13:21] <Trailfaz> is there a way that I can make my computer load my win programs faster & run them smoother ?
[06 Jan/13:21] <CJ^> scan disk
[06 Jan/13:22] <Trailfaz> I'm using Autocad14 at work and when I load it up and load thru the drawings , it just seems slow loading the drawings
[06 Jan/13:22] <CJ^> and defrag
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[06 Jan/13:22] <CJ^> and UNLOAD anything yu have in memory currently...
[06 Jan/13:22] <CJ^> and more memory always helps
[06 Jan/13:22] <Trailfaz> i do that every morning when i get in, but i just do a quick scandisk
[06 Jan/13:22] <Trailfaz> i have 32 megs or ram at work
[06 Jan/13:22] <Trailfaz> when i run scandisk i don't do the thorough scan
[06 Jan/13:23] <CJ^> well dfrag will help
[06 Jan/13:23] <Trailfaz> i just run standard
[06 Jan/13:23] <CJ^> let it run defrag.. and dont toucvh it  
[06 Jan/13:23] <CJ^> just let it run
[06 Jan/13:23] <Trailfaz> i do
[06 Jan/13:24] <Trailfaz> but i pick the one where it just checks for errors because the other option will just take the whole day
[06 Jan/13:24] <Trailfaz> will that help it by picking the basic option ?
[06 Jan/13:24] <Trailfaz> i do it every morning & sometimes after work
[06 Jan/13:24] <CJ^> do the full defrag..
[06 Jan/13:24] <Trailfaz> and also I clean out the windows temp folder
[06 Jan/13:24] <CJ^> let it run till its done..
[06 Jan/13:25] <CJ^> even if it takes all day
[06 Jan/13:25] <Trailfaz> but i have to use autocad 14
[06 Jan/13:25] <Trailfaz> it's going to affect the defrag right >
[06 Jan/13:25] <CJ^> autocad??
[06 Jan/13:25] <Trailfaz> ?
[06 Jan/13:25] <CJ^> on only 32mb?
[06 Jan/13:25] <CJ^> geeze
[06 Jan/13:25] <Trailfaz> yea
[06 Jan/13:25] <CJ^> dont ask for miracles..
[06 Jan/13:25] <Trailfaz> i know
[06 Jan/13:25] <CJ^> specially since autocad runs way better on NT
[06 Jan/13:26] <Trailfaz> and it is using win98 too
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[06 Jan/13:26] <Trailfaz> a lot smoother right ?
[06 Jan/13:26] <Trailfaz> yea we using windows 95/98 at work and using Novell Network
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[06 Jan/13:26] <CJ^> yes a lot smoother
[06 Jan/13:26] <Trailfaz> ok
[06 Jan/13:26] <Wrice> can you please tell me the password that over rights the windows screensaver password and startup
[06 Jan/13:26] <CJ^> 98/95 for workstations... and Cad??
[06 Jan/13:26] <CJ^> nahh worng answer really..
[06 Jan/13:26] <Trailfaz> what
[06 Jan/13:27] <Trailfaz> no we run on a network using Autocad 14
[06 Jan/13:27] <Wrice> i mean over rides
[06 Jan/13:27] <CJ^> Wrice there is no password to overwrite that
[06 Jan/13:27] <CJ^> there is none
[06 Jan/13:27] <Wrice> yea its a universal password
[06 Jan/13:27] <Trailfaz> but the hard drive i have installed is like kind of slow and choppy at times
[06 Jan/13:28] <Trailfaz> i guess the only way to quicken it up and run smoothly is to run defrag full and scandisk
[06 Jan/13:28] <CJ^> Wrice  whoever told ya that... is blowing smoke
[06 Jan/13:28] <CJ^> Traill.. best bet
[06 Jan/13:28] <Trailfaz> i run scandisk and defrag every morning but i just use the basic options
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[06 Jan/13:28] <CJ^> and dop way mor physical ram int he box...
[06 Jan/13:28] <Trailfaz> that's not up to me to do it
[06 Jan/13:29] <CJ^> well.. a suggestion to the boss... would be a good start...
[06 Jan/13:29] <Trailfaz> yea i know
[06 Jan/13:31] <Trailfaz> ok
[06 Jan/13:31] <Trailfaz> well for now i'll just run the defrag & scandisk 
[06 Jan/13:32] <Trailfaz> and one more thing a lot of times when i go to shutdown win98 it gives me a dark fuzzy screen and it locks up and the comp. doesn't shutdown
[06 Jan/13:32] <Trailfaz> it just sits there until i go to push the off button myself
[06 Jan/13:32] <Trailfaz> and then the next morning i get a message telling me to shut down the computer
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[06 Jan/13:33] <CJ^> diable fast shutdown..
[06 Jan/13:33] <Trailfaz> isn't there a way to make it shutdown automatically all the time instead of it doing that ?
[06 Jan/13:33] <CJ^> er disable..
[06 Jan/13:33] <CJ^> and turn off power managemnt
[06 Jan/13:33] <Trailfaz> where can i find that ?
[06 Jan/13:33] <CJ^> start>run>msconfig
[06 Jan/13:33] <Trailfaz> i dont' get the message it is now safe to turn your computer off
[06 Jan/13:34] <Trailfaz> it just goes fuzzy and then it locks up
[06 Jan/13:34] <lurkapup> if Ive installed win2k onto the same drive as win98 and the ie5 has been overwritten so things like outlook wont work in 98 how can I get it back to the 98 version ?
[06 Jan/13:34] <CJ^> someone play with the logos?
[06 Jan/13:34] <Trailfaz> what?
[06 Jan/13:35] <CJ^> lurk  you upgraded win98 to win2k?
[06 Jan/13:35] <CJ^> Trail.. the logo
[06 Jan/13:35] <CJ^> the shutdown logo...
[06 Jan/13:35] <lurkapup> umm no I did a dual install ..
[06 Jan/13:35] <Trailfaz> oh ok
[06 Jan/13:35] <CJ^> if someone messed with it.. it may nto appear
[06 Jan/13:35] <CJ^> lurk
[06 Jan/13:35] <Trailfaz> no i don't think so
[06 Jan/13:35] <Trailfaz> no no one messed with it
[06 Jan/13:35] <lurkapup> got them both running .. but it seems to have screwed a few things in 98
[06 Jan/13:35] <CJ^> lurk.. then the two are kept seperate...
[06 Jan/13:35] <Trailfaz> it just gives me a fuzzy dark screen after i click on shutdown
[06 Jan/13:35] <CJ^> odd...
[06 Jan/13:35] <CJ^> well try disabling fast shutdown...
[06 Jan/13:35] <Trailfaz> ok
[06 Jan/13:35] <lurkapup> mm ok - was kinda hoping that was my prob - cause now outlook gives a cant load msoe.dll error
[06 Jan/13:35] <CJ^> and disable power managemnt
[06 Jan/13:35] <CJ^> might help
[06 Jan/13:35] <CJ^> if it was 98 SE
[06 Jan/13:35] <CJ^> id say get eh shutdown patch
[06 Jan/13:36] <lurkapup> figured that since there is only one ie dir
[06 Jan/13:36] <Trailfaz> then it should prevent that from happening again ?
[06 Jan/13:36] <CJ^> hmmm
[06 Jan/13:36] <CJ^> yeah  that IS true..
[06 Jan/13:36] <Trailfaz> i mean after a while it gets annoying you know having to wait for it to shutdown and then it doesn't then you get that message the next day
[06 Jan/13:37] <CJ^> yeah trail i hear ya on that
[06 Jan/13:37] <CJ^> hmm
[06 Jan/13:37] <lurkapup> I cant reinstall ie5 .. or outlook (same thing isnt it ? ) cause I keep gettn an error saying a newer version already exists ..
[06 Jan/13:37] <CJ^> lurk...  its SUPPOSED to install seperatly...
[06 Jan/13:37] <CJ^> supposed to
[06 Jan/13:37] <lurkapup> :)
[06 Jan/13:37] <CJ^> but  heck its the beta...
[06 Jan/13:37] <Trailfaz> i mean after a while wouldn't the computer start to have more errors if it keeps up like that ?
[06 Jan/13:37] <lurkapup> yup thats always a point :)
[06 Jan/13:37] <Trailfaz> not shutting down properly ?
[06 Jan/13:37] <CJ^> yeap Trail it may
[06 Jan/13:38] <CJ^> but run SFC once in a while
[06 Jan/13:38] <Trailfaz> sfc ?
[06 Jan/13:38] <CJ^> the admins for your system shoudl be doing this too...
[06 Jan/13:38] <CJ^> system file checker
[06 Jan/13:38] <CJ^> start>run>sfc
[06 Jan/13:38] <Trailfaz> yea i know but he is lazy at timess
[06 Jan/13:38] <Trailfaz> times
[06 Jan/13:38] <Trailfaz> ok
[06 Jan/13:38] <CJ^> gawd  ill take his job then...
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[06 Jan/13:39] <Trailfaz> yea right
[06 Jan/13:40] <Trailfaz> what does disable fast shutdown do to the comp. ?
[06 Jan/13:40] <Trailfaz> will i get the message it is now safe to turn off your computer now ?
[06 Jan/13:41] <CJ^> it stops it from shutting down too quickly
[06 Jan/13:41] <CJ^> gives it a bit of time to unload drivers and such
[06 Jan/13:42] <Trailfaz> but it will shutdown properly before i leave for the day right ?
[06 Jan/13:43] <Trailfaz> without the screen going fuzzy and locking up ?
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[06 Jan/13:43] <CJ^> it should
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[06 Jan/13:43] <CJ^> doesnt mean it willl
[06 Jan/13:44] <CJ^> the ADMIN shoudl relly take a look at it to determine the issue...
[06 Jan/13:44] <CJ^> heck
[06 Jan/13:44] <CJ^> make him work...
[06 Jan/13:44] <Trailfaz> it' s weird because for the past 3 three days it has been locking up and the screen going fuzzy at shutdown but today it shutdown by itself
[06 Jan/13:44] <Trailfaz> yea i will
[06 Jan/13:44] <Trailfaz> today it shutdown fine by itself but the past 3 days i had to push the button myself  wierd huh >
[06 Jan/13:44] <Trailfaz> ?
[06 Jan/13:45] <CJ^> hmm
[06 Jan/13:45] <CJ^> couldbe just in need of a serius maintenance
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[06 Jan/13:45] <Tara2x> hi
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[06 Jan/13:45] <Trailfaz> what the harddrive ?
[06 Jan/13:46] <Trailfaz> prob.
[06 Jan/13:46] <Tara2x> I just deleted a directory and got a message it was too big to put in the recycle bin so it was permanently removed...now I realize I deleted the wrong directory! Is there a way to recover?
[06 Jan/13:46] <wez> nope
[06 Jan/13:46] <wez> well yeah, but its about 1200 bux
[06 Jan/13:46] <CJ^> not win98 by itself...
[06 Jan/13:46] <CJ^> no..
[06 Jan/13:46] <CJ^> actually..
[06 Jan/13:47] <CJ^> Norton and PM ave apps less than $100 that can do it
[06 Jan/13:47] <CJ^> there are some others...
[06 Jan/13:47] <Tara2x> PM?
[06 Jan/13:47] <CJ^> Undelete i think will actually do it too
[06 Jan/13:47] <CJ^> PQ i mena 
[06 Jan/13:47] <CJ^> sorry
[06 Jan/13:47] <CJ^> Power Quest
[06 Jan/13:47] <Tara2x> Ah
[06 Jan/13:48] <Tara2x> I'm downloading files now. I hope they are not writing over the deleted items on the HD surface.
[06 Jan/13:48] <Trailfaz> thanks CJ^
[06 Jan/13:48] <Trailfaz> for the advice
[06 Jan/13:48] <Trailfaz> i will try the msconfig tomorrow
[06 Jan/13:49] <Tara2x> My recycle bin says my HDs are 1.99 GB each but they are 6 gb!
[06 Jan/13:49] <Trailfaz> and see what happens , i just hope I don't mess up the computer from functioning again
[06 Jan/13:49] <Trailfaz> ok
[06 Jan/13:49] <CJ^> tara.. well does Explorer show them as 6g?
[06 Jan/13:49] <CJ^> if not..
[06 Jan/13:49] <CJ^> they arent partitoned correctly..
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[06 Jan/13:50] <Tara2x> Explorer shows 6 ea.
[06 Jan/13:50] <Tara2x> That directory I deleted was 226 mb.
[06 Jan/13:51] <CJ^> well thats a bug
[06 Jan/13:51] <CJ^> shows the smae on mine too  grrrrr
[06 Jan/13:51] <Tara2x> Grr
[06 Jan/13:52] <CJ^> hmm
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[06 Jan/13:53] <Gentle--> can I run a system with 133 mhz ram which only needs 100 mhz ram?
[06 Jan/13:54] <CJ^> well  you shoudl be able to... but  whats that got to do with 98?
[06 Jan/13:54] <CJ^> thats a hardware issue...
[06 Jan/13:54] <Gentle--> so...?
[06 Jan/13:54] <mrgone> my 100mhz bus works with 66 
[06 Jan/13:55] <CJ^> i would suspect thoguh that  pc133 ram may be touchy on a mb that doesnt support it fully..
[06 Jan/13:55] <CJ^> point though..
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[06 Jan/13:55] <Gentle--> I set my 66 to 100 and it didnt even start up, and I thought that since I'm buying ram I might as well buy 133...
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[06 Jan/13:55] <CJ^> you wont get 133mhz speed outta the ram...
[06 Jan/13:55] <devilDigg> hi mrgone
[06 Jan/13:56] <Kawi> here's my problem when I restart windows I get these tmp files in windows directory, the more I restart the more I get (the temps look like product keys) is there a way to find out where a temp file is coming from?
[06 Jan/13:56] <devilDigg> unless you get pc133 ram
[06 Jan/13:56] <CJ^> er no dd
[06 Jan/13:56] <CJ^> only if the system supports pc133  and can use it
[06 Jan/13:56] <CJ^> will he get to use the full 133
[06 Jan/13:56] <CJ^> i dont see a reason why it wont work   just wont be at 133
[06 Jan/13:56] <Gentle--> I realise the 133 would be wasted if I only ran it at 100 but it would work right?
[06 Jan/13:56] <CJ^> it may Gentle...
[06 Jan/13:56] <CJ^> no guarantee
[06 Jan/13:57] <CJ^> check the mb website
[06 Jan/13:57] <Kawi> I have 100 running with 66 but they all run at 66
[06 Jan/13:57] <CJ^> they shoudl have the correct info there
[06 Jan/13:57] <Kawi> What kinda mb are you using
[06 Jan/13:57] <Gentle--> I know that the m/b only runs at 66 or 100
[06 Jan/13:57] <Kawi> what speed is your box
[06 Jan/13:58] <Kawi> and what is it pentium, cyrix.....
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[06 Jan/13:58] <sst66> hi room
[06 Jan/13:58] <sst66> anyone here?
[06 Jan/13:58] <Kawi> ypu
[06 Jan/13:58] <Kawi> yup
[06 Jan/13:58] <Gentle--> I have a 433 I want to overclock to 500 by upping the bus speed to 100 mhz, instead of 66. And I thought that since I want to buy a k7 one day, maybe I should get the ram for it now?
[06 Jan/13:59] <Gentle--> (celeron)
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[06 Jan/13:59] <Kawi> Gentle read up on it first, your gonna need a good cooling fan....
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[06 Jan/13:59] <Kawi> Gentle your board is 66
[06 Jan/13:59] <Gentle--> Kawi, it supports 66 and 100
[06 Jan/14:00] <Kawi> the ram should work anyway
[06 Jan/14:00] <Gentle--> yay then
[06 Jan/14:00] <Gentle--> thanks.
[06 Jan/14:01] * Kawi asks so anyone have an idea for my prob?
[06 Jan/14:02] <wez> check your startup file for some install progs, and your autoexec.bat
[06 Jan/14:03] <wez> and if you dont see anything in there..... major virus scan?
[06 Jan/14:03] <Kawi> there's nothing in autoexec nothing in the startup and no virus
[06 Jan/14:03] <wez> * all of the above are pure opinion*
[06 Jan/14:03] <wez> hmmmmm
[06 Jan/14:03] <wez> when did this start?
[06 Jan/14:04] <Kawi> I have a feeling it might be from a crack or something but it's been a while and when I first notice there was like 400tmp in my windows dir :) heh
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[06 Jan/14:05] <CJ^> geeeze
[06 Jan/14:05] <CJ^> thats nto right
[06 Jan/14:05] <CJ^> what crack?
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[06 Jan/14:06] <Kawi> might be from painshop pro or a voice command.....I took all thoses programs out and all the cracks....really don't know where it's coming from I was hoping there was a way to trace down where a file was coming from
[06 Jan/14:07] <CJ^> open it with notepad?
[06 Jan/14:07] <Kawi> the temps look like product keys....
[06 Jan/14:07] <Kawi> won't do it
[06 Jan/14:07] <Kawi> there 0 bytes
[06 Jan/14:08] <CJ^> yeah i got loads of em too...:PP
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[06 Jan/14:08] <Kawi> you j/k?.....
[06 Jan/14:09] <CJ^> nope
[06 Jan/14:09] <CJ^> serious
[06 Jan/14:09] <CJ^> just did a search
[06 Jan/14:09] <CJ^> well..
[06 Jan/14:09] <Kawi> I've check everything I could with explorer and still can't come up with anything
[06 Jan/14:09] <CJ^> 99% are in \windows\temp
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[06 Jan/14:09] <CJ^> but
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[06 Jan/14:09] <CJ^> i got loads of em too
[06 Jan/14:10] <Kawi> mine are right in windows
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[06 Jan/14:10] <Kawi> let me reboot and I will be back and paste a couple
[06 Jan/14:10] <CJ^> 176 files too
[06 Jan/14:11] <Kawi> cj...the thing is everytime I reboot 2 more appear so after a while there's a hole shit load :)
[06 Jan/14:11] <kyote> Problem:   Installed a 17 gig hardrive on my Pentium 200,  It detects the hard-drive at 17 gigs but when I f-disk it, It only says it has 8 gigs.
[06 Jan/14:12] <Kawi> fffe2c85_{497A0FC5-C3A6-11D3-94BE-0080C8DF24BD} this is what they look like
[06 Jan/14:12] <CJ^> *.tmp files right?
[06 Jan/14:12] <Kawi> yup
[06 Jan/14:12] <devilDigg> delete them, i do
[06 Jan/14:13] <Kawi> kyote I'm not sure but I think there's a patch you need from microsoft
[06 Jan/14:13] <CJ^> no
[06 Jan/14:13] <CJ^> not for that
[06 Jan/14:13] <Kawi> devilDigg that's fine I do but the thing is do yours keep adding up everytime you reboot?
[06 Jan/14:13] <CJ^> at least none for fdisk that i know of...
[06 Jan/14:13] <Kawi> I know there's one for 30something gig but not sure for you 17
[06 Jan/14:14] <Kawi> your
[06 Jan/14:14] <Kawi> heh
[06 Jan/14:14] <kyote> k
[06 Jan/14:14] <devilDigg> no
[06 Jan/14:14] <CJ^> hmm..
[06 Jan/14:15] <CJ^> fdisk say my 20 gig
[06 Jan/14:15] <CJ^> er saw
[06 Jan/14:16] <devilDigg> it saw my 13 
[06 Jan/14:16] <devilDigg> and my old 20
[06 Jan/14:17] <CJ^> http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q153/5/50.asp?LNG=ENG&SA=PER
[06 Jan/14:17] <CJ^> check there
[06 Jan/14:18] <CJ^> thats the MS DB answer
[06 Jan/14:18] <CJ^> it actually says it IS a bios issue...
[06 Jan/14:19] <CJ^> you may have to manully type inteh specs for the drive rather than use autodetect
[06 Jan/14:19] <kyote> That is what I have done
[06 Jan/14:19] <kyote> If I use autodetect it ony reads 8 gigs
[06 Jan/14:20] <kyote> Bios now reads 16 gigs but when I f-disk it.  it only reads 8 gigs
[06 Jan/14:20] <CJ^> then i would update the bios
[06 Jan/14:20] <kyote> kk
[06 Jan/14:20] <CJ^> its a bios issue...
[06 Jan/14:20] <CJ^> what MB?
[06 Jan/14:21] <kyote> Intel
[06 Jan/14:21] <kyote> the bios is pretty new though September 97
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[06 Jan/14:25] <CJ^> intel what though?
[06 Jan/14:25] <CJ^> i mean  ya knwo what model??
[06 Jan/14:26] <CJ^> or is it a name brand system??
[06 Jan/14:26] <kyote> k hold on
[06 Jan/14:31] <devilDigg> bbl
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[06 Jan/14:33] <kyote> I am not sure if this is it but CE-5q594
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[06 Jan/14:35] <XNOR_> how can i change the letter of my hard drives
[06 Jan/14:35] <CJ^> hmmm
[06 Jan/14:35] <CJ^> kynote...  is this s true Intel mainboard??
[06 Jan/14:35] <CJ^> or  just has intel chipset?
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[06 Jan/14:36] <kyote> intel chipset
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[06 Jan/14:36] <kyote> I am looking up the mother-board name
[06 Jan/14:36] <CJ^> ahh ok kynote  thats the problem then...
[06 Jan/14:36] <CJ^> hmm
[06 Jan/14:37] <CJ^> www.ping.be/bios
[06 Jan/14:37] <CJ^> get ctbios
[06 Jan/14:38] <CJ^> XNOR  drive letter is chosen by fdisk actually..
[06 Jan/14:38] <CJ^> by partition assignment
[06 Jan/14:38] <kyote> BCM
[06 Jan/14:38] <CJ^> BCM  ok
[06 Jan/14:39] <kyote> BCM is the name of the m-board manufacture and sq594 is the model #
[06 Jan/14:39] <CJ^> BCM is the maker..
[06 Jan/14:39] <XNOR_> theres no way to change it....?
[06 Jan/14:40] <CJ^> XNOR  nto in win there isnt
[06 Jan/14:40] <CJ^> its by partitions assignment
[06 Jan/14:40] <CJ^> you cant make c be d
[06 Jan/14:40] <CJ^> kynote.. ok the latest bios is 10/22/97 
[06 Jan/14:40] <kyote> k
[06 Jan/14:41] <kyote> I have 03/11/97
[06 Jan/14:41] <CJ^> might want to try the newer one then
[06 Jan/14:41] <CJ^> http://www.bcmcom.com/tech/sq594/594-b03.zip
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[06 Jan/14:44] <kyote> thanx CJ^  
[06 Jan/14:44] <kyote> payment is in the mail
[06 Jan/14:44] <CJ^> :P
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[06 Jan/16:14] <Jabbapop> hiya
[06 Jan/16:14] <Big`Ed> hey-hi
[06 Jan/16:15] <Jabbapop> yawn im bored bye
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[06 Jan/16:28] <devilDigg> hi all
[06 Jan/16:28] <Big`Ed> hola
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[06 Jan/16:30] <Bud_Frog> someone can help me please
[06 Jan/16:31] <Bud_Frog> my trial version of conseal firewall is finished, i remove what i see of siganl9 in regedit, but i can't reinstall it ???
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[06 Jan/16:38] <Bud_Frog> my trial version of conseal firewall is finished, i remove what i see of siganl9 in regedit, but i can't reinstall it ???
[06 Jan/16:39] <devilDigg> ask
[06 Jan/16:39] <Big`Ed> depends on prob
[06 Jan/16:39] <Bud_Frog> someone speak french
[06 Jan/16:40] <Big`Ed> register it
[06 Jan/16:40] <Bud_Frog> i haven't $$$ for that
[06 Jan/16:41] <Bud_Frog> i just want to remove it completly in regedit
[06 Jan/16:41] <Big`Ed> (i think they do that for a specific purpose = hence the word 'trial' )
[06 Jan/16:42] <Bud_Frog> yes i know, but the problem it's that, right now people flood me and i don't know who is it and i'm lagging !! :((
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[06 Jan/16:46] <`Muff`> 'lo all
[06 Jan/16:46] <Big`Ed> hola `Muff`
[06 Jan/16:46] <`Muff`> Hey Ed :)
[06 Jan/16:47] <Big`Ed> hows the slot business?
[06 Jan/16:47] <`Muff`> Smooth ;)
[06 Jan/16:47] <j3ss1> hiya muff
[06 Jan/16:47] <Big`Ed> furr-sure
[06 Jan/16:47] <`Muff`> Hola j3
[06 Jan/16:48] <`Muff`> `op
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[06 Jan/16:48] <Big`Ed> register it
[06 Jan/16:48] <Big`Ed> (i think they do that for a specific purpose = hence the word 'trial' )
[06 Jan/16:48] <`Muff`> `down
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[06 Jan/16:49] <Big`Ed> muff is taking the dive
[06 Jan/16:49] <`Muff`> Bud, you need version 4.05...
[06 Jan/16:49] <Big`Ed> i eat french fries
[06 Jan/16:49] <devilDigg> LOL
[06 Jan/16:50] <`Muff`> Bud, download and buy version 4.05....
[06 Jan/16:50] <`Muff`> `op
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[06 Jan/16:50] <Big`Ed> we do support warez work here dude
[06 Jan/16:51] <`Muff`> Then use the search function of regedit to remove all the keys, Bud...
[06 Jan/16:51] <`Muff`> We DO support warez?  Eh?
[06 Jan/16:53] <`Muff`> Bud, non fraggers and non hackers and people who don't give their time to #win98 usually don't get flooded.   Maybe you should change your nick (as well as your ways)?
[06 Jan/16:54] <`Muff`> Dipstick....
[06 Jan/16:54] <`Muff`> `down
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[06 Jan/16:54] <Big`Ed> yea
[06 Jan/16:54] <`Muff`> `op
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[06 Jan/16:55] <`Muff`> Bud, have you contacted Conseal about this problem?
[06 Jan/16:55] <Bud_Frog> no
[06 Jan/16:55] <`Muff`> They may have a fix
[06 Jan/16:55] <Bud_Frog> k thx
[06 Jan/16:56] <`Muff`> I know an earlier version of Conseal had a Y2K problem, but they will email you a fix if you report using the older version...
[06 Jan/16:57] <Bud_Frog> oh ok, thx, it's because it's the first time i go in the regedit,
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[06 Jan/16:57] <alyosha> hih
[06 Jan/16:57] <`Muff`> Hey aly :)
[06 Jan/16:58] <Big`Ed> hi
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[06 Jan/16:58] <alyosha> I keep getting a file that says when I boot Invalid setting MSDOS.SYS file XXXs.. how do I fix this?
[06 Jan/16:58] <Big`Ed> when did it start?
[06 Jan/16:58] <`Muff`> Stop visiting thos XXX sites?
[06 Jan/16:58] <alyosha> yesterday
[06 Jan/16:58] <alyosha> hehe
[06 Jan/16:58] <`Muff`> ;)
[06 Jan/16:59] <alyosha> I think it has something to do with the scanner program
[06 Jan/16:59] <Big`Ed> did you install something?
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[06 Jan/16:59] <alyosha> UMAX vistascan and photodelux
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[06 Jan/16:59] <Big`Ed> is that what you just installed?
[06 Jan/16:59] <alyosha> I have to reinstal windows
[06 Jan/16:59] <alyosha> yesterday I did 
[06 Jan/17:00] <Big`Ed> and did you try 'un-installing' it?
[06 Jan/17:00] <Big`Ed> also - did you ensure you used the windows 98 installation?
[06 Jan/17:00] <`Muff`> 98 SE, aly?
[06 Jan/17:00] <alyosha> no I thought I could go into the file and edit it myself
[06 Jan/17:00] <alyosha> I have win95
[06 Jan/17:01] <Big`Ed> `kick alyosha - JERK
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[06 Jan/17:01] <alyosha> I plan to get win 98
[06 Jan/17:01] <Big`Ed> jeessshhhh
[06 Jan/17:01] <`Muff`> LOL
[06 Jan/17:01] <Big`Ed> 98 and 95 are 2 different OS's
[06 Jan/17:01] <Big`Ed> not the same for hardware/software installs
[06 Jan/17:01] <Big`Ed> support
[06 Jan/17:01] <Big`Ed> get real
[06 Jan/17:01] <alyosha> I understand that, but no one is in win95
[06 Jan/17:01] <Big`Ed> do you get your ford fixed at a mazda shop too?
[06 Jan/17:01] <alyosha> well I thought I would drop down into DOS and fix it
[06 Jan/17:01] <Big`Ed> and that means what to ME?
[06 Jan/17:02] <alyosha> Big in fact I do :)
[06 Jan/17:02] <Big`Ed> great! - enjoy your fix
[06 Jan/17:02] <alyosha> they sell mazda ford and kias 
[06 Jan/17:02] <Big`Ed> bye
[06 Jan/17:03] <Big`Ed> and you ask for advice - in #win98 - and NEVER say you have win95 - that is DUMB
[06 Jan/17:03] <alyosha> so none of you remeber any DOS commands and edits?
[06 Jan/17:03] <Big`Ed> I DO NOT DO #win95 support on #WIN98
[06 Jan/17:03] <`Muff`> Wrong channel, aly
[06 Jan/17:03] <alyosha> I didn't see the rules on asking questions in the channel before I got here
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[06 Jan/17:03] <Big`Ed> bye
[06 Jan/17:03] <NuKe`> if i have win98 on one hard drive and win2000 on another what can i get to load 98 on default but 2000 when i want it???
[06 Jan/17:03] <alyosha> ok Ed don't help me then
[06 Jan/17:03] <Big`Ed> ok
[06 Jan/17:04] <`Muff`> aly, try www.nowonder.com
[06 Jan/17:04] <alyosha> maybe someone else here is a computer master
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[06 Jan/17:04] <Big`Ed> it is the concept - of asking for help - when you consciously knew you had a different operating system, and you came in this channel and asked for help on the wrong OS
[06 Jan/17:04] <alyosha> ok Muff thanks :)
[06 Jan/17:04] <Big`Ed> and NEVER said it to us till we had to ASK
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[06 Jan/17:05] <`Muff`> Hey Det 
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[06 Jan/17:06] <alyosha> like I said I didn't see the rules for the oder of questions and answers when I came in..
[06 Jan/17:06] <`Muff`> Hola small parasitic organism 
[06 Jan/17:06] <alyosha> muff he's kind os a sensitive guy eh?
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[06 Jan/17:06] <Deton8R> aloha, g33x
[06 Jan/17:06] <`Muff`> We don't play off of each other, aly.  The rules are the rules....
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[06 Jan/17:07] <Big`Ed> hiya pyrokiwi
[06 Jan/17:07] <pyrokiwi> hiya
[06 Jan/17:07] <pyrokiwi> ouch
[06 Jan/17:07] <Big`Ed> hows the head
[06 Jan/17:07] <`Muff`> Hey pyro
[06 Jan/17:07] <alyosha> ok I'll leave you guys alone, don't want to upset your lonely anal retentive worlds
[06 Jan/17:07] <pyrokiwi> i feel drowsey i just walked 4 an hour in the sun a day after getting concussed
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[06 Jan/17:07] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm
[06 Jan/17:08] <Big`Ed> a wonderful win95 user 
[06 Jan/17:09] <pyrokiwi> ahha
[06 Jan/17:09] <pyrokiwi> poooor him
[06 Jan/17:09] <Spirocete> anyone know of channel with cdrw info??
[06 Jan/17:09] <pyrokiwi> the dark dreary days of win95
[06 Jan/17:09] <Big`Ed> not off hand Spirocete 
[06 Jan/17:10] <Big`Ed> we try to help a bit with win98 hardware issues
[06 Jan/17:10] <pyrokiwi> nope sorry neither here
[06 Jan/17:10] <Spirocete> k thx..I'll keep looking around..take care
[06 Jan/17:11] <Big`Ed> k - bye
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[06 Jan/17:12] <Spirocete> oh..here's one for you then...any folks know which file inserted by parelled port tape drives that causes your printer to burp out a sheet of assorted characters when started??
[06 Jan/17:12] <Big`Ed> NuKe` - you would have to take that up with 2000
[06 Jan/17:12] <Big`Ed> win98 only works as a default c
[06 Jan/17:12] <Big`Ed> 2000 is not released for normal use yet
[06 Jan/17:12] <Big`Ed> or get a multi-boot manager - 3rd party
[06 Jan/17:12] <Big`Ed> or configure 2k to do it
[06 Jan/17:13] ! Lady^Bug_ is known as Lady^Bug
[06 Jan/17:13] <Big`Ed> Spirocete - not allways a file, but could be a driver conflict, or just the way the data is flowing on the epp/ecp settings
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[06 Jan/17:13] < SignOff: devilDigg!devild_@RED-216-203-0-116.dialup.nyc.redconnect.net (The only touch is sight, The only reality is laughter, The only feeling is sadness and Love is matter of choice of happening. (http://dd-soft.tripod.com))
[06 Jan/17:13] ! devild_ is known as devilDigg
[06 Jan/17:14] <pyrokiwi> ahha yo devilDigg
[06 Jan/17:14] <Spirocete> yes Big Ed could be a driver...I knew it once, but lost documentation...colorado tape bu driver...but can't recall which one
[06 Jan/17:15] <devilDigg> hi pyro
[06 Jan/17:15] <Big`Ed> can't say - you'd have to check colorodo site for drivers
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[06 Jan/17:15] <Big`Ed> hi devilDigg
[06 Jan/17:15] <pyrokiwi> i feel drowsey i just walked 4 an hour in the sun a day after getting concussed
[06 Jan/17:15] <devilDigg> pyro: i just finished my last program
[06 Jan/17:15] <devilDigg> its a pop3 email checker
[06 Jan/17:15] <pyrokiwi> oh wat programmed 4 / in ?
[06 Jan/17:15] <pyrokiwi> i got concussed yesterday
[06 Jan/17:15] <pyrokiwi> so now i fell "stink"
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[06 Jan/17:16] <devilDigg> programmed because i needed one, so i decided to make one after i couldnt find one of my choice, and it was programmed in c++, its only 44kb
[06 Jan/17:16] <pyrokiwi> hmmm kewl
[06 Jan/17:16] <devilDigg> what do you think of hte quit msg?
[06 Jan/17:16] <pyrokiwi> y not use netscape?
[06 Jan/17:17] <pyrokiwi> dont get it i am not/cant concentrating after getting concussed
[06 Jan/17:17] <devilDigg> thats where i got the idea because i liked the netscape one, but i only have the browser, i dont like having the communicator.. i use ie as my default, i just have netscape in case i need it
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[06 Jan/17:17] <pyrokiwi> hmmm ahha
[06 Jan/17:17] ! HigHBabE is known as HigH-AwaY
[06 Jan/17:17] <pyrokiwi> well ya can use just the mail thing 
[06 Jan/17:18] <devilDigg> um i tried that.. and it wasnt to my convinience
[06 Jan/17:18] <pyrokiwi> ahha
[06 Jan/17:18] <pyrokiwi> :)
[06 Jan/17:18] <devilDigg> mostly cuz i dont use the netscape messenger as my emailer
[06 Jan/17:18] <pyrokiwi> i like netscape anyway so i use it
[06 Jan/17:18] <devilDigg> i use microsoft outloook
[06 Jan/17:18] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm
[06 Jan/17:18] <pyrokiwi> i see very confusing
[06 Jan/17:19] <pyrokiwi> i hav outlook express configured to get my email but leave on server so if my mum/dad has netscape booted up 4 them i can check my email without closing it
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[06 Jan/17:20] <pyrokiwi> and i am bored
[06 Jan/17:20] <Big`Ed> kewl
[06 Jan/17:21] <Big`Ed> tourch still burning?
[06 Jan/17:21] <pyrokiwi> the other reason i did that is cause i was bored
[06 Jan/17:21] <pyrokiwi> lol yeh torch is alive just
[06 Jan/17:21] <Big`Ed> bbiaf - gotta reboot
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[06 Jan/17:21] <pyrokiwi> :)
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[06 Jan/17:22] <devilDigg> pyro: you do have pop3 mail right?
[06 Jan/17:22] <pyrokiwi> yep 
[06 Jan/17:22] <pyrokiwi> crosswinds.net the place to go
[06 Jan/17:22] <devilDigg> LOL
[06 Jan/17:22] <devilDigg> well wanna give it a try..
[06 Jan/17:22] <devilDigg> tell me what you think..
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[06 Jan/17:22] <devilDigg> los!!
[06 Jan/17:22] <pyrokiwi> yo LosGuy
[06 Jan/17:22] <`Muff`> Hey Los
[06 Jan/17:22] <pyrokiwi> i cut my head and got a concussion yesterday
[06 Jan/17:22] <LosGuy> hi folks
[06 Jan/17:24] ! Infra- is known as Infra
[06 Jan/17:24] <`Muff`> You got a cuncussion from a cut?  Jeez, my shaving nicks should be considered skull fractures ;)
[06 Jan/17:25] <pyrokiwi> no
[06 Jan/17:25] <pyrokiwi> i got a concussion cause i got hit in the head by a weighted diving stick
[06 Jan/17:25] <`Muff`> Ouch.  That's different!
[06 Jan/17:25] <pyrokiwi> very
[06 Jan/17:25] <`Muff`> `down
[06 Jan/17:25] @ mode #win98 [-o `Muff`] by Athena!itsnotme@ppp35.US-GOVT.org
[06 Jan/17:25] <pyrokiwi> my sister chucked it
[06 Jan/17:26] <`Muff`> Kill your sister... it will prolly be judged as justified ;)
[06 Jan/17:26] <pyrokiwi> and DONK 
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[06 Jan/17:29] <LosGuy> `say
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[06 Jan/17:30] <`Muff`> rehi det
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[06 Jan/17:30] <`Muff`> Hey tippet
[06 Jan/17:30] <pyrokiwi> hiya 
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[06 Jan/17:31] ! Spyaway is known as SpyderB8
[06 Jan/17:31] <tippet> hi
[06 Jan/17:31] <tippet> anyone know where I can download IE 5.0   NOT 5.01
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[06 Jan/17:31] <pyrokiwi> microsoft site
[06 Jan/17:32] <pyrokiwi> i hav seen it there
[06 Jan/17:32] <`Muff`> tippet, try www.download.com
[06 Jan/17:32] <Kobi> Anyone here know how to setup Wingate properly for networking 2 computers for cable modem?
[06 Jan/17:32] <`Muff`> Hola kobi
[06 Jan/17:32] <tippet> pyro MS only offers 5.01 now
[06 Jan/17:33] <pyrokiwi> well where did ya look on there site?
[06 Jan/17:33] <devilDigg> back tommorow
[06 Jan/17:33] <`Muff`> `op
[06 Jan/17:33] <tippet> products page pyro
[06 Jan/17:33] @ mode #win98 [+o `Muff`] by Athena!itsnotme@ppp35.US-GOVT.org
[06 Jan/17:33] <pyrokiwi> hmmm
[06 Jan/17:33] <pyrokiwi> just a min
[06 Jan/17:33] <pyrokiwi> ute
[06 Jan/17:33] <tippet> k
[06 Jan/17:34] < SignOff: devilDigg!devild_@RED-216-203-0-116.dialup.nyc.redconnect.net (http://dd-soft.tripod.com)
[06 Jan/17:34] @ mode #win98 [+b *!*@*.80-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net] by `Muff`!~kmefford@lou47.kih.net
[06 Jan/17:34] < Kobi!bobo@modemcable119.80-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net was kicked off #win98 by `Muff`!~kmefford@lou47.kih.net (Read the topic, try again tomorrow.)
[06 Jan/17:34] ! _________ is known as Eagle_Boy
[06 Jan/17:34] ! hickychic is known as LordAdolf
[06 Jan/17:36] <pyrokiwi> http://www.microsoft.com/msdownload/iebuild/ie5_win32/EN/ie5_win32.htm?FinishURL=%2Fdownloads%2Frelease%2Easp%3FReleaseID%3D10293%26LangID%3D20%26LangDIR%3Den%2Dus%26OpSysID%3D9800%26Search%3DProduct%26Value%3D808%26Show%3DAlpha%26Start%3D%26Page%3D0%26redirect%3Dno go there
[06 Jan/17:36] <pyrokiwi> i think thats it
[06 Jan/17:37] <tippet> lol pyro 
[06 Jan/17:37] <tippet> wow
[06 Jan/17:37] <pyrokiwi> yeh 
[06 Jan/17:37] <pyrokiwi> ctrl c
[06 Jan/17:37] <pyrokiwi> i gtg now bbl
[06 Jan/17:37] ! pyrokiwi is known as pyro|away
[06 Jan/17:37] <tippet> looks like you had a religious experience there
[06 Jan/17:37] <tippet> ok  heading there   tks
[06 Jan/17:38] ! LosGuy is known as LosAway
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[06 Jan/17:39] <`Muff`> wb j3
[06 Jan/17:39] <j3ss1> :)
[06 Jan/17:39] <j3ss1> whatzup?
[06 Jan/17:40] <`Muff`> SOS, j3ss.  Are things better with you?
[06 Jan/17:40] <j3ss1> yeh, feeling better
[06 Jan/17:41] <`Muff`> Very good :)
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[06 Jan/17:41] <`Muff`> Hey Lukin
[06 Jan/17:41] <Lukin> I got a protection error
[06 Jan/17:41] <j3ss1> I've had Q3 sitting here for a week, might finally install it
[06 Jan/17:42] <Lukin> anybody got a boot disk for win98??
[06 Jan/17:42] <`Muff`> Lukin, you didn't make one when you loaded Windows?
[06 Jan/17:43] <j3ss1> yeh send me $40 and i'll fedex it
[06 Jan/17:43] <j3ss1> :)
[06 Jan/17:43] <Lukin> `Muff` hmmm...you're really that kinda guy who make boot disk?? 
[06 Jan/17:43] <`Muff`> I have several, lukin.... We don't do file transfers in here
[06 Jan/17:44] <Lukin> ahh
[06 Jan/17:44] <Lukin> k
[06 Jan/17:44] <j3ss1> it woulda been the smart thing to do...
[06 Jan/17:44] <Lukin> I don't have any
[06 Jan/17:44] <Lukin> and I have a cfgmg or something like that problem
[06 Jan/17:45] <`Muff`> Lukin, you HAVE to have a boot diskette.  Obviously you have access to a working PC.  Make one from that one...
[06 Jan/17:45] <Lukin> bah,.,,
[06 Jan/17:45] <Lukin> it's like on a...win2k
[06 Jan/17:46] <`Muff`> Have you a) read the topic or b) tried #win2k?
[06 Jan/17:46] <Lukin> ok...look...
[06 Jan/17:47] <Lukin> I don't have any problems with win2k...
[06 Jan/17:47] <Lukin> but I do have a problem with win98
[06 Jan/17:47] <`Muff`> And they are?
[06 Jan/17:48] <Lukin> I can't boot in win98
[06 Jan/17:48] <Lukin> I have a protection error
[06 Jan/17:48] <`Muff`> On a multi-boot system?
[06 Jan/17:48] <Lukin> yes
[06 Jan/17:48] <`Muff`> <Hint>  Say NO
[06 Jan/17:49] <`Muff`> Lukin, I didn't hear you, did you say "No"?
[06 Jan/17:49] <Lukin> :P said yes
[06 Jan/17:51] <`Muff`> I am SO tempted to kick/ban you, but I'll give you a chance.  What error are you getting, Lukin?
[06 Jan/17:52] <Lukin> I don't know exactly
[06 Jan/17:53] <Lukin> It says I have to reboot the comp
[06 Jan/17:54] <Lukin> you know hmmm...I have a french win98...so...
[06 Jan/17:54] <Lukin> "erreur de protection windows"
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[06 Jan/17:54] <`Muff`> Is it an IOS error?
[06 Jan/17:54] <`Muff`> Hola CJ?
[06 Jan/17:54] <CJ^> yo
[06 Jan/17:54] <`Muff`> Hola CJ even ;) 
[06 Jan/17:55] <Lukin> I really dunno...I found a boot disk...
[06 Jan/17:55] <Lukin> I'll try...wait...
[06 Jan/17:56] <`Muff`> j3ss, did you get my email tonight?
[06 Jan/17:56] <j3ss1> hmm havent checked email
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[06 Jan/17:56] <`Muff`> Hola Ed :)
[06 Jan/17:57] <Big`Ed> hola
[06 Jan/17:57] <j3ss1> got it :)
[06 Jan/17:57] <`Muff`> Lukin, you better shape up, Ed is meaner than I am ;)
[06 Jan/17:57] <Big`Ed> `say
[06 Jan/17:57] <Lukin> oh
[06 Jan/17:57] <Lukin> :P
[06 Jan/17:57] <`Muff`> How'd the boot go, lukin?
[06 Jan/17:57] <j3ss1> thnx Muff :)
[06 Jan/17:58] <Lukin> I dunno...
[06 Jan/17:58] <Lukin> I have to try
[06 Jan/17:58] <Big`Ed> hi j3ss1
[06 Jan/17:58] <Lukin> won't be too long
[06 Jan/17:58] <j3ss1> wb ed
[06 Jan/17:58] <Big`Ed> thx
[06 Jan/17:58] <Lukin> I just try to figure out how to make a boot disk If I have the systems files
[06 Jan/17:58] @ mode #win98 [+o Big`Ed] by `Muff`!~kmefford@lou47.kih.net
[06 Jan/17:58] <Big`Ed> win98 boot disks are VERY easy to make
[06 Jan/17:59] <Lukin> how? :)
[06 Jan/17:59] <Big`Ed> and a 'bootable disk' is too
[06 Jan/17:59] <Big`Ed> thx `Muff`
[06 Jan/17:59] <Lukin> I want a bootable disk
[06 Jan/18:00] ! angieGONE is known as angieboos
[06 Jan/18:00] ! LosAway is known as LosGuy
[06 Jan/18:01] <Big`Ed> LOS!
[06 Jan/18:01] <Big`Ed> hi big guy
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[06 Jan/18:01] <LosGuy> heh howdy Ed
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[06 Jan/18:01] <Big`Ed> format a: /s
[06 Jan/18:01] <Big`Ed> very easy
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[06 Jan/18:02] <Big`Ed> wb
[06 Jan/18:02] <Big`Ed> wb j3ss1
[06 Jan/18:02] <j3ss1> re
[06 Jan/18:02] <Big`Ed> hi jet
[06 Jan/18:02] <`Muff`> Hey jet, wb j3ss
[06 Jan/18:02] <j3ss1> "_
[06 Jan/18:02] <j3ss1> :)
[06 Jan/18:02] <jet> hey muff abit late for you??
[06 Jan/18:02] @ mode #win98 [+v Amsterdam] by Big`Ed!BigEd@01-060.009.popsite.net
[06 Jan/18:02] @ mode #win98 [+v CJ^] by Big`Ed!BigEd@01-060.009.popsite.net
[06 Jan/18:02] @ mode #win98 [+v Deton8R] by Big`Ed!BigEd@01-060.009.popsite.net
[06 Jan/18:02] @ mode #win98 [+v j3ss1] by Big`Ed!BigEd@01-060.009.popsite.net
[06 Jan/18:02] @ mode #win98 [+v LosGuy] by Big`Ed!BigEd@01-060.009.popsite.net
[06 Jan/18:02] @ mode #win98 [+v pyro|away] by Big`Ed!BigEd@01-060.009.popsite.net
[06 Jan/18:03] <`Muff`> Yeah, I'm gonna have to snort some cocaine tomorrow morning or something, jet <LOL>
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[06 Jan/18:04] <jet> just thought that I woould hang out awhile---JEESE!
[06 Jan/18:04] <jet> a bit muich muff-hehehe
[06 Jan/18:04] <`Muff`> ROFL
[06 Jan/18:05] <Big`Ed> almost as bad as my BEER habit
[06 Jan/18:06] <`Muff`>  <*=*=*=*=*=  BEER RIGHT  BACK!!!!!  =*=*=*=*=*>
[06 Jan/18:06] ! Deton8R is known as Eek_A_Rat
[06 Jan/18:06] <`Muff`> Did someone say beer?
[06 Jan/18:06] <Big`Ed> mmm
[06 Jan/18:06] <Big`Ed> beer
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[06 Jan/18:06] * Big`Ed passes out cold Stale Pale Ale's around the channel
[06 Jan/18:06] @ mode #win98 [+o Amsterdam] by `Muff`!~kmefford@lou47.kih.net
[06 Jan/18:07] <jet> muff email on the way
[06 Jan/18:07] <j3ss1> argh its freezing
[06 Jan/18:07] <Big`Ed> just put the mail in the muff slut
[06 Jan/18:07] <`Muff`> Checking it now
[06 Jan/18:07] <Big`Ed> just put the mail in the muff slot
[06 Jan/18:07] * `Muff` looks at Ed <LOL>
[06 Jan/18:07] <jet> thanks big ed
[06 Jan/18:07] * j3ss1 covers her ears
[06 Jan/18:07] <Big`Ed> oops
[06 Jan/18:08] * jet looks away
[06 Jan/18:08] * Big`Ed covers his tracks. --- mail slot
[06 Jan/18:08] ! HigH-AwaY is known as HigHBabE
[06 Jan/18:08] ! Eek_A_Rat is known as Deton8R
[06 Jan/18:08] <Big`Ed> catch it Deton8R?
[06 Jan/18:08] <Deton8R> shoulda sed RUG rat
[06 Jan/18:09] <Big`Ed> hehe
[06 Jan/18:09] <`Muff`> Jet, I got so much laying around it's scary.  Old and slow, but a CD and floppy drive, a monitor and that should do it.
[06 Jan/18:09] <jet> no monitor needed but the rest
[06 Jan/18:10] <jet> any HD?
[06 Jan/18:10] <Big`Ed> well ladies and germs.... it is past my bed time
[06 Jan/18:10] <Big`Ed> hope you all have a good one
[06 Jan/18:10] <`Muff`> Call me at work tomorrow jet, I have some "small" ones...
[06 Jan/18:10] <jet> oops monitor for me-hehehe
[06 Jan/18:10] <`Muff`> Nite Ed :(
[06 Jan/18:10] <j3ss1> laterz
[06 Jan/18:10] <jet> just make me a list of things and price
[06 Jan/18:10] <jet> please
[06 Jan/18:11] <j3ss1> I think I'm gonna go UO a bit
[06 Jan/18:11] <j3ss1> cya Muff, check your email ;)
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[06 Jan/18:11] <j3ss1> nite Ed
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[06 Jan/18:12] <jet> thanks muff and see you later
[06 Jan/18:12] <`Muff`> Nite jet :)
[06 Jan/18:12] <jet> not leaveing just be on the side
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[06 Jan/18:13] <LosGuy> hi skippy
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[06 Jan/18:19] <jet> muff is that monitor one that I could use as a second?
[06 Jan/18:19] <`Muff`> yeah, but I'm I'm gonna crash for now jet.  Call me tomorrow...
[06 Jan/18:20] < SignOff: `Muff`!~kmefford@lou47.kih.net (My karma ran over my dogma)
[06 Jan/18:20] <LosGuy> nite `Muff`
[06 Jan/18:20] <jet> thanks see you later
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[06 Jan/18:48] <EriX> lo 
[06 Jan/18:49] <LosGuy> hi
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[06 Jan/18:49] <EriX> im looking for connectin iexplorer on a proxy server 
[06 Jan/18:49] <EriX> but it not work
[06 Jan/18:49] <KhanAbyss> lol
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[06 Jan/18:49] <LosGuy> proxy is where?
[06 Jan/18:49] <EriX> on my local rezo
[06 Jan/18:50] ! Infra is known as Blaher
[06 Jan/18:50] <EriX> do you help me plz
[06 Jan/18:51] <LosGuy> what have you done to set it up?
[06 Jan/18:51] <LosGuy> what proxy btw?
[06 Jan/18:51] <EriX> btw???
[06 Jan/18:51] <LosGuy> by the way
[06 Jan/18:51] <EriX> whats are the setting in ie
[06 Jan/18:51] <LosGuy> and what is "rezo"?
[06 Jan/18:51] <LosGuy> just run the connection wizzard
[06 Jan/18:51] <EriX> network
[06 Jan/18:51] <LosGuy> what proxy?
[06 Jan/18:52] <LosGuy> MS proxy? or are you using NAT? 
[06 Jan/18:52] <EriX> i have try it but it not work
[06 Jan/18:52] <EriX> i use sygate
[06 Jan/18:53] <LosGuy> k that is not a proxy it is NAT
[06 Jan/18:53] <LosGuy> but how do you have your network set up?
[06 Jan/18:53] <LosGuy> you need a working TCP / IP network
[06 Jan/18:53] <EriX> ok
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[06 Jan/18:54] <LosGuy> you should have the gateway on the client set to the IP of the host
[06 Jan/18:54] <EriX> how to configure it
[06 Jan/18:54] <EriX> on ie
[06 Jan/18:54] <LosGuy> it works easier if you use dynamic IPs on the client and static  on the host
[06 Jan/18:54] <LosGuy> there is nothing to configure on IE
[06 Jan/18:54] <LosGuy> just get a working network
[06 Jan/18:55] <LosGuy> and tell the computer that you connect to the internet via a LAN
[06 Jan/18:55] <EriX> in ona lan
[06 Jan/18:55] <EriX> im on a lan
[06 Jan/18:55] <LosGuy> yeah I know
[06 Jan/18:55] <LosGuy> (connect via a LAN on the host that is)
[06 Jan/18:55] <EriX> yes
[06 Jan/18:55] <LosGuy> doh on the CLIENT I mean)
[06 Jan/18:56] <EriX> no on the serve
[06 Jan/18:56] <LosGuy> not on the host (server)
[06 Jan/18:56] <EriX> rr
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[06 Jan/18:56] <LosGuy> the server will use the modem
[06 Jan/18:56] <LosGuy> sygate honnestly takes all of two minutes to set up
[06 Jan/18:56] <LosGuy> in my experience
[06 Jan/18:56] <EriX> im the client and im looking for connect on the server
[06 Jan/18:57] <EriX> i know
[06 Jan/18:57] <EriX> im beyon a firewall
[06 Jan/18:57] <LosGuy> ok in the settings for your NIC under tcp/ip properties you should have a dynamic IP , the gateway should be the iP of the host
[06 Jan/18:57] <EriX> socket 5
[06 Jan/18:57] <EriX> it is
[06 Jan/18:57] <EriX> my irc ,icq work
[06 Jan/18:57] <LosGuy> hmm
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[06 Jan/18:58] <LosGuy> just web browsing doesnt ?
[06 Jan/18:59] <CJ^> tools
[06 Jan/18:59] <CJ^> options
[06 Jan/18:59] <CJ^> think he has to tell IE its connecting on a LAN too...
[06 Jan/18:59] <CJ^> :P
[06 Jan/18:59] <CJ^> i think...
[06 Jan/18:59] <LosGuy> he said he did that 
[06 Jan/19:00] <LosGuy> (told him to run the connection wizard again and he said he did)
[06 Jan/19:00] <EriX> cancel ità
[06 Jan/19:00] <EriX> thks
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[06 Jan/19:01] <CJ^> ffenchie
[06 Jan/19:01] <CJ^> :P
[06 Jan/19:01] <LosGuy> he didnt make sense most of the time
[06 Jan/19:01] <CJ^> French Canuck
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[06 Jan/19:18] <LosGuy> `say
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[06 Jan/19:29] <Jessica-> hi everyone..is anyone here using office 2000 premium version?
[06 Jan/19:29] <LosGuy> not I
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[06 Jan/19:30] <Alyson> Whatever you do, don't upgrade to win 2k.
[06 Jan/19:30] <LosGuy> why would you
[06 Jan/19:30] <LosGuy> this is a win98 channel... win2k is basicly NT5
[06 Jan/19:30] <CJ^> Win2k is a great OS...
[06 Jan/19:30] <Alyson> Because I was stupid
[06 Jan/19:30] <CJ^> it not really meant for win98 -win2k upgrades  but it supports it
[06 Jan/19:31] <Alyson> I upgraded from 98 today and now almost all of my applications are non functional.
[06 Jan/19:31] <CJ^> but  then again... you have a beta still right????
[06 Jan/19:31] <Alyson> nope
[06 Jan/19:31] <Jessica-> win2k comes out in Feb
[06 Jan/19:31] <Alyson> this is the final one.
[06 Jan/19:31] <CJ^> well a lot of apps dont meet win2k req...
[06 Jan/19:31] <LosGuy> uh
[06 Jan/19:31] <CJ^> some nned patches 
[06 Jan/19:31] <CJ^> others need total overhauls...
[06 Jan/19:32] <CJ^> but  again.. it wanst made to be a consumer os..
[06 Jan/19:32] <Alyson> My tv adaptor , my camera, and my dvd player. All non functional.
[06 Jan/19:32] <CJ^> but i didnt have trouble with most of my apps....
[06 Jan/19:32] <CJ^> well.. those are hardware
[06 Jan/19:32] <Alyson> Anything without a signature won't work.
[06 Jan/19:32] <CJ^> gotta wait till win2k drivers are released...
[06 Jan/19:32] <LosGuy> blame your hardware manufacturers
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[06 Jan/19:32] <Jessica-> I guess no one here is using office 2000 premium version?
[06 Jan/19:32] <Alyson> I can't even back it up to 95. It needs dos mode to do that. I don't have dos on 2000
[06 Jan/19:33] <CJ^> and yer a beta tester?  or how did you get the final product?
[06 Jan/19:33] <Alyson> office
[06 Jan/19:33] <CJ^> NT never had DOS...
[06 Jan/19:33] <Alyson> I know
[06 Jan/19:33] <CJ^> office works in win2k...
[06 Jan/19:33] <CJ^> office 97 works
[06 Jan/19:33] <Alyson> I didn't think this would happen.
[06 Jan/19:33] <CJ^> i know that for  fact...
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[06 Jan/19:34] <CJ^> but  you also may need the Office update for Office 97
[06 Jan/19:34] <CJ^> patch one and two
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[06 Jan/19:34] <Alyson> nevermind office. I try to install the drivers again and tell them to override the signature and they can't even finid the drivers.
[06 Jan/19:35] <CJ^> cause  if the drivers arent signed they may not work...
[06 Jan/19:35] <CJ^> thats the point of signatures...
[06 Jan/19:35] <CJ^> its supposed to help tech support track bugs with drivers...
[06 Jan/19:35] <Alyson> I know.
[06 Jan/19:35] <CJ^> and help the OS track files if they become corrupted...
[06 Jan/19:35] <CJ^> well... if ya KNEW all this...
[06 Jan/19:36] <Alyson> These are critical programs for me. I can't use anything now.
[06 Jan/19:36] <CJ^> still id report it back to MS anyways
[06 Jan/19:36] <CJ^> cause upgrades from win98 to win2k were tested
[06 Jan/19:36] <Alyson> and
[06 Jan/19:36] <CJ^> but mostly it was upgrades from nt4 to win2k...
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[06 Jan/19:36] <CJ^> win98 to win2k upgrade will work..
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[06 Jan/19:37] <CJ^> IF you follow the MS directions...
[06 Jan/19:37] <CJ^> and warnings..
[06 Jan/19:37] <Alyson> I didn't think it would delete any existing drivers. Otherwise I wouldn't have done it if I knew this was going to happen.
[06 Jan/19:38] <Alyson> I can't wipe the hard disk either.
[06 Jan/19:38] <CJ^> why not?
[06 Jan/19:38] <Alyson> Can't find my master recovery cd. I have the diskette but not the cd.
[06 Jan/19:38] <CJ^> a fool and his computer will soon be wiped...
[06 Jan/19:38] <CJ^> :PP
[06 Jan/19:39] <CJ^> always have boot disks  and  a backup plan...
[06 Jan/19:39] <Alyson> Well, this time its baffling.
[06 Jan/19:40] <Alyson> I don't even know where my cd is. I also don't know why it wasn't where it was supposed to be.
[06 Jan/19:40] <Alyson> SO I have to find it. And when I do I'm going to give that virus, Windows 2000 a taste of death.
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[06 Jan/19:40] <Alyson> .....but I do like its administrative tools.
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[06 Jan/19:42] <Kawi> anyone here tonight :)
[06 Jan/19:42] <LosGuy> maybe
[06 Jan/19:42] <pyrokiwi> only if u hav an easy problem
[06 Jan/19:42] <Kawi> trust me it's not
[06 Jan/19:42] <Kawi> :)
[06 Jan/19:42] <pyrokiwi> wat is it?
[06 Jan/19:42] <Kawi> just give me about 3hours to type it
[06 Jan/19:43] <pyrokiwi> lol ok sure thing
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[06 Jan/19:44] <Kawi> everytime I restart windows 2 new temp files go in the windows dir ffffeab9_{35F55861-C3D8-11D3-94BE-0080C8DF24BD}   <-- they look like this the thing is I don't know where it's coming from, the first time I notice there was about 300, they are 0bytes
[06 Jan/19:44] <Kawi> I think it might be from a crack program that I had tried
[06 Jan/19:45] <Kawi> I have deleted all the programs that I cracked along with the cracks themself
[06 Jan/19:45] <LosGuy> scanned with a good AV?
[06 Jan/19:45] <Kawi> it's not a virus because I check it out
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[06 Jan/19:46] <Kawi> one thing I finally did find is that some of the code where found in my regiedit or whatever it's called
[06 Jan/19:46] <Kawi> I did a search in there and found some other can't be found
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[06 Jan/19:49] <Kawi> to me it looks like a product key from a crack or something
[06 Jan/19:49] <Ccm> Win98 sucks, Linux ownz
[06 Jan/19:49] <Kawi> blah blah blah any ideas on how to find the source of where the tmps are coming?
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[06 Jan/19:49] <Kawi> ....:)
[06 Jan/19:49] <Kawi> that's pretty cool....
[06 Jan/19:49] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm
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[06 Jan/19:50] <Kawi> sorry got disconnected
[06 Jan/19:50] <Kawi> where did my story stop?? :)
[06 Jan/19:51] <Kawi> you guys have an idea what or where or why :)
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[06 Jan/19:53] <pyrokiwi> nope :(
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[06 Jan/19:53] <Kawi> hummm not the answer I'm looking for :)
[06 Jan/19:53] <pyrokiwi> lol sorry
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[06 Jan/19:54] <LosGuy> Kawi not necessarily
[06 Jan/19:54] <Kawi> that's ok, I don't think it's hurting nothing just getting on my nerves why it's doing it and that I can't figure it out
[06 Jan/19:54] <Kawi> LosGuy....
[06 Jan/19:55] <LosGuy> whre is this file?
[06 Jan/19:55] <LosGuy> in C:\windows\temp?
[06 Jan/19:55] <Kawi> c:\windows
[06 Jan/19:56] <LosGuy> hmm 
[06 Jan/19:57] <LosGuy> well different programs will put files in different places ...kinda hard to say where it is comming from
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[06 Jan/19:57] <LosGuy> try msconfig to see what is running at startup (might not be easy if it is running from the reg or from a .ini file though)
[06 Jan/19:58] <Kawi> I tell ya, I've check every single file and folder on my computer including all hidden and system
[06 Jan/19:58] <Kawi> did that :)
[06 Jan/19:58] <Kawi> I can almost be sure that if you name it I've done it :) heh
[06 Jan/19:58] <LosGuy> dunno what to tell you
[06 Jan/19:58] <Kawi> heh that's ok
[06 Jan/19:59] <Kawi> I've been on every single channel on efnet,undernet etc... no one knows it's the case of the Gosttmpfiles
[06 Jan/19:59] <LosGuy> just run a good antivirus to make sure it isnt a trojan (dont know of any that do that) and if it bugs you that bad then format and reinstall
[06 Jan/19:59] <Kawi> that's what I gonna do tommorrow
[06 Jan/20:00] <Kawi> don't have much on this computer tnx god :)
[06 Jan/20:00] <LosGuy> a good back up is the best defense
[06 Jan/20:00] <Kawi> the other computers on my network are fine so I don't know what it is because most of them have the same programs and cracks
[06 Jan/20:01] <Kawi> must of been my cat when I wasn't looking :)
[06 Jan/20:01] <pyrokiwi> lol
[06 Jan/20:01] <Aphrodite> Kawi we dont do crack(s) here... your very close to a topic violation
[06 Jan/20:02] <Kawi> I'm not doing cracks either
[06 Jan/20:02] <CJ^> but  ya just said there were apps with cracks on the system...
[06 Jan/20:02] <Aphrodite> <Kawi> the other computers on my network are fine so I don't know what it is because most of them have the same programs and cracks
[06 Jan/20:02] <Kawi> sorry 
[06 Jan/20:03] * Kawi removes that bad bad word from his vocabulary
[06 Jan/20:03] <Kawi> :)
[06 Jan/20:04] <Kawi> I've been clean for a while :) 
[06 Jan/20:04] <CJ^> jumky
[06 Jan/20:04] <CJ^> er junky
[06 Jan/20:05] <Kawi> heh
[06 Jan/20:05] <Kawi> recovering junky :)
[06 Jan/20:05] <Kawi> joined CA a while back :)
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[06 Jan/20:07] <Kawi> anyone here try the windows 2000 with the 30 day time trial that should never be crack heh :)
[06 Jan/20:07] <Kawi> is there much difference from nt4?
[06 Jan/20:07] <CJ^> naah
[06 Jan/20:07] <CJ^> oh yeah
[06 Jan/20:07] <CJ^> big difference
[06 Jan/20:07] <Kawi> same kinda layout?
[06 Jan/20:07] <CJ^> nope
[06 Jan/20:07] <Kawi> like look wise
[06 Jan/20:07] <CJ^> big difference
[06 Jan/20:07] <CJ^> nope
[06 Jan/20:08] <CJ^> has to be seen to be understood..
[06 Jan/20:08] <Kawi> and what's the one replacing 98?
[06 Jan/20:08] <CJ^> more win9x-ish like that anything...
[06 Jan/20:08] <Kawi> is that one good?
[06 Jan/20:08] <CJ^> no
[06 Jan/20:08] <CJ^> its not replacing 98
[06 Jan/20:08] <CJ^> replacing NT4
[06 Jan/20:08] <CJ^> its NT5
[06 Jan/20:08] <Kawi> isn't there one replacing 98?
[06 Jan/20:08] <CJ^> Millenium...
[06 Jan/20:08] <Kawi> how the millenium one?
[06 Jan/20:08] <CJ^> thats replacing win98
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[06 Jan/20:09] <CJ^> Millenium is the name of the OS slotted to replace 98
[06 Jan/20:09] <LosGuy> code name
[06 Jan/20:09] <CJ^> Neptune<< NT6
[06 Jan/20:09] <CJ^> right
[06 Jan/20:09] <CJ^> all code names...
[06 Jan/20:09] <CJ^> like Memphis...
[06 Jan/20:10] <Kawi> I heard on the radio that it has poor reviews
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[06 Jan/20:10] <Kutron> I have a NEC Pentium 3 500 mHZ, how fast can I safely overclock my system??
[06 Jan/20:11] <pyrokiwi> u hav that and want to overclock!
[06 Jan/20:11] <pyrokiwi> i hav p166 and dont
[06 Jan/20:11] <Oger> how can i check what version of winsock i have?
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[06 Jan/20:11] <CJ^> Kutron..??
[06 Jan/20:11] <Kawi> man that's slow :)
[06 Jan/20:11] <CJ^> overclocking is never really safe...
[06 Jan/20:11] <Kawi> get a really good cooling system :)
[06 Jan/20:12] <Kawi> I'm gonna take the rad out of my car and hook it up to my cpu 
[06 Jan/20:12] <Oger> i have a PIII 500 too
[06 Jan/20:12] <CJ^> `op
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[06 Jan/20:12] <Kutron> why's it slow?
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[06 Jan/20:12] <CJ^> its not slow..
[06 Jan/20:12] <Kawi> I have a pII300 a ppro200 and 3p100 and alot of burnt boards because of trying to overclock them :)
[06 Jan/20:12] <pyrokiwi> yeh u could try wat 1 guy is doing - immersing his WHOLE system in mineral oil and sticking it through airconditioner
[06 Jan/20:12] <CJ^> no need to overclcok...
[06 Jan/20:12] <CJ^> BTW
[06 Jan/20:12] <CJ^> most OEm systems arent made to OC...
[06 Jan/20:12] <Kawi> Kutron it's a j/k :)
[06 Jan/20:13] <CJ^> fry that system.,.and kiss yer warrnty goodbye
[06 Jan/20:13] <Kutron> oh
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[06 Jan/20:14] <Kutron> k, i'll forget it then
[06 Jan/20:14] <Kawi> yup that's the truth :)
[06 Jan/20:14] <Kutron> I really need a new video card
[06 Jan/20:14] <Kutron> I'm trying to run Quake3 with a Voodoo 2 8 meg :-(
[06 Jan/20:14] <Oger> anyone know how  i check what my version of winsock is?
[06 Jan/20:14] <Kawi> why do you want to overclock it anyway?
[06 Jan/20:14] <pyrokiwi> voodoo2 ! i hav s3
[06 Jan/20:14] <Kutron> so quake 3 will run faster
[06 Jan/20:14] <Kutron> I need a geforce
[06 Jan/20:14] <CJ^> why..
[06 Jan/20:14] <Kawi> Oger usually you would click on the help and then about
[06 Jan/20:14] <Kutron> there really good cards
[06 Jan/20:14] <CJ^> isnt the NEC systems Savage 4 good enough?
[06 Jan/20:15] <Kutron> I have a ATI in it
[06 Jan/20:15] <Oger> hmmmm
[06 Jan/20:15] <LosGuy> Oger run msinfo32 it ought to be there
[06 Jan/20:15] <Oger> fine
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[06 Jan/20:15] <Kawi> I could use a new vid card also
[06 Jan/20:15] <pyrokiwi> i could use a whole new pc except hdrive (13gig is good)
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[06 Jan/20:17] <Kawi> I would like a pIII733 :) in a labtop loaded to the nuts :)
[06 Jan/20:17] <Kawi> but that will never happen :)
[06 Jan/20:17] <CJ^> yeah it will
[06 Jan/20:17] <CJ^> give it time..
[06 Jan/20:17] <Kawi> no I mean for me to have one now :)
[06 Jan/20:17] <CJ^> ahhh
[06 Jan/20:17] <Kawi> heh
[06 Jan/20:18] <Kawi> I picked up a computer shoppers mag the other day, I couldn't believe the things you can buy, the last time I got one was like six months ago
[06 Jan/20:18] <Kawi> it's crazy how fast things get out of date
[06 Jan/20:19] <Kawi> just to think when I had my 486dx266 all my friends where jealous heh
[06 Jan/20:19] <pyro|away> lol yeh
[06 Jan/20:20] <Kawi> I got my 300 about 1 year ago and already starting to see it slow down when I see the new stuff
[06 Jan/20:20] <pyro|away> hmmm p166 is slow with most stuff
[06 Jan/20:20] <Kawi> 166 is perfect for a server box
[06 Jan/20:21] <Kawi> once I figure out linux my 200 will because my server
[06 Jan/20:21] <CJ^> linux isnt hard really...
[06 Jan/20:22] <pyro|away> hmmm it is to get to dialup
[06 Jan/20:22] <CJ^> RH 6.1 makes it far too easy
[06 Jan/20:22] <Kawi> well if you want to use it as a server you have to know it pretty good or there easy to hack in
[06 Jan/20:22] <CJ^> dial up under RH 6.1 is easy as well..
[06 Jan/20:22] <CJ^> it finds the modem...
[06 Jan/20:22] <CJ^> the itelligent dialer does the rest for ya...
[06 Jan/20:23] <pyro|away> hmmmm 6.1 maybe not 6.0
[06 Jan/20:23] ! pyro|away is known as pyrokiwi
[06 Jan/20:24] <Kawi> you guys ever use vnc <--I think that's what it's called
[06 Jan/20:24] <CJ^> 6.0 is easy too pyro...
[06 Jan/20:25] <CJ^> its not hard once you figure out what file has to be edited..
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[06 Jan/20:25] <Kawi> nothing is hard once you figure it out :)
[06 Jan/20:26] <Kawi> what I like about linux there are many webpage out there for Q&A it's great
[06 Jan/20:26] * LosGuy has never used 6.1 but 6.0 wasnt bad
[06 Jan/20:26] <willbeWEZ> tons
[06 Jan/20:26] <pyrokiwi> 6.0 i cant set to dialup
[06 Jan/20:27] <LosGuy> but LosGuy can :P
[06 Jan/20:27] <pyrokiwi> well i only tried 4 about 30 minutes
[06 Jan/20:27] <CJ^> edit  /etc/ppp/options
[06 Jan/20:27] <CJ^> delete everythign in there
[06 Jan/20:27] <CJ^> drop in these lines
[06 Jan/20:27] <CJ^> lock
[06 Jan/20:27] <CJ^> crtscts
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[06 Jan/20:27] <CJ^> defaultroute
[06 Jan/20:27] <CJ^> noipdefault
[06 Jan/20:27] <CJ^> save it
[06 Jan/20:27] <CJ^> edit /etc/resolve.config
[06 Jan/20:27] <pyrokiwi> hmmm ok i will try sometime when i get another moniter
[06 Jan/20:28] <CJ^> drop in the DNS there
[06 Jan/20:28] <pyrokiwi> yep
[06 Jan/20:28] * willbeWEZ scribbles furiously
[06 Jan/20:28] <CJ^> then dial out
[06 Jan/20:28] <pyrokiwi> lol use log willbeWEZ
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[06 Jan/20:28] <willbeWEZ> *wink*
[06 Jan/20:28] <Kawi> you guys ever try to hook up 2 monitors to windows98?
[06 Jan/20:28] <CJ^> ya actually DONT have to edit the resolve.config  if ya use KPPP
[06 Jan/20:28] <CJ^> i have
[06 Jan/20:28] <CJ^> works great actually..
[06 Jan/20:28] <Kawi> how does it work, you screen is split up for more viewing?
[06 Jan/20:28] <Kawi> I take it you need 2vid cards
[06 Jan/20:28] <CJ^> just larger desktop is all...
[06 Jan/20:28] <CJ^> no
[06 Jan/20:29] <CJ^> you can actualyl use one
[06 Jan/20:29] <CJ^> G400 Dual head
[06 Jan/20:29] <pyrokiwi> if u hav the right card
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[06 Jan/20:29] <CJ^> but  other than that card... yeah  ya need two cards..
[06 Jan/20:29] <Kawi> heh
[06 Jan/20:29] <pyrokiwi> hmmm i could do but i only hav 1 moniter
[06 Jan/20:29] <Kawi> pyro let's trade cards....
[06 Jan/20:30] <Kawi> I can't wait to finish school to start to make money again :) need big boy toys 
[06 Jan/20:30] <pyrokiwi> no thanx i hav 2 s3s
[06 Jan/20:30] <pyrokiwi> well wat card ya got Kawi?
[06 Jan/20:31] <Kawi> alacaca sirrus 8meg something never really check because it sucks :)
[06 Jan/20:31] <pyrokiwi> 8meg
[06 Jan/20:32] <pyrokiwi> hehe i got 2 in 1 card and 1 meg in the other
[06 Jan/20:32] <pyrokiwi> sure u will swap cards
[06 Jan/20:32] <Kawi> cirrus sorry
[06 Jan/20:32] <Kawi> need a new one
[06 Jan/20:32] <pyrokiwi> u can hav either
[06 Jan/20:32] <Kawi> I seen one the net the other day with twin chipset and cooling fans don't remember the name
[06 Jan/20:32] <Kawi> hehe 
[06 Jan/20:33] <Kawi> it's crazy what you can get anymore money is the only limit
[06 Jan/20:33] <pyrokiwi> oooh
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[06 Jan/20:34] <pyrokiwi> hmmm someguys are making 1 with 560 megs ram or 5oo and something anyway !!!!
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[06 Jan/20:34] <Kawi> video card?
[06 Jan/20:34] <pyrokiwi> yep
[06 Jan/20:34] <pyrokiwi> crazy ay
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[06 Jan/20:35] <Kawi> man just run the mb of that thing
[06 Jan/20:35] <Kawi> heh
[06 Jan/20:35] <pyrokiwi> thats more ram then my pc lots more
[06 Jan/20:35] <Kawi> that's more ram then my network heh
[06 Jan/20:35] <pyrokiwi> lol
[06 Jan/20:36] <willbeWEZ> tmarry lads
[06 Jan/20:36] <pyrokiwi> thats more ram then a lot of graphics workstations
[06 Jan/20:37] <Kawi> Some isps in town here have less ram then that
[06 Jan/20:37] <pyrokiwi> lol yhe
[06 Jan/20:38] <Kawi> pyro was there a price on that card?
[06 Jan/20:39] <Kawi> man just the ram alone in cnd$ is almost if not more 700$
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[06 Jan/20:39] <pyrokiwi> yeh
[06 Jan/20:39] <pyrokiwi> i think it was planned b4 ram price rise
[06 Jan/20:39] <Kawi> actually more then that because I paid 120$ for a 64 pc100 stick
[06 Jan/20:39] <Kawi> for sure
[06 Jan/20:40] <Kawi> I need a new desk too a nice corner bigger then hell unit
[06 Jan/20:40] <pyrokiwi> lol yeh
[06 Jan/20:40] <pyrokiwi> i need a new pc
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[06 Jan/20:41] <Kawi> you should upgrade you could get a second hand mb (233mhz) for about 100$ usually with some ram on it
[06 Jan/20:42] <Kawi> with fan and all 
[06 Jan/20:42] <pyrokiwi> 100us ?
[06 Jan/20:42] <pyrokiwi> i am only 14
[06 Jan/20:42] <Kawi> cnd
[06 Jan/20:42] <Kawi> oh
[06 Jan/20:42] <Kawi> well ask your parents :) say it's for educational reasons :)
[06 Jan/20:42] <pyrokiwi> lol
[06 Jan/20:43] <pyrokiwi> nah my dad will say it works fine 4 me
[06 Jan/20:43] <Cat`Woman> Kawi.. that would get you brand new stuff... $100 goes quite far now
[06 Jan/20:43] <Kawi> Cat well here where I live there isn't much :)
[06 Jan/20:43] <pyrokiwi> nah 
[06 Jan/20:43] <Kawi> Cat you talking us or cnd?
[06 Jan/20:43] <pyrokiwi> 64ram will cost that
[06 Jan/20:43] <Cat`Woman> us
[06 Jan/20:43] <pyrokiwi> in nz 64ram can cost 100us
[06 Jan/20:44] <Kawi> me cnd worth your worth almost double :)
[06 Jan/20:44] <Kawi> man I can't type tonight
[06 Jan/20:44] <Kawi> heh
[06 Jan/20:44] <Cat`Woman> bout the same here
[06 Jan/20:44] <LosGuy> but dropping
[06 Jan/20:45] <Kawi> I hate that when I type faster then I can think :)
[06 Jan/20:45] <LosGuy> heck you can get 128mb for about that much on pricewatch
[06 Jan/20:45] <Cat`Woman> I suppose I entered too late in the conversation, but did I here someone say upgrade to a 266???
[06 Jan/20:45] <pyrokiwi> actually 64 ram cost more then 100us
[06 Jan/20:45] <Cat`Woman> kawi, where are you?
[06 Jan/20:45] <pyrokiwi> i hav p166 :)
[06 Jan/20:45] <Kawi> Cornwall Ontario
[06 Jan/20:46] <Cat`Woman> pyro, that will do you for a very little while longer
[06 Jan/20:46] <Cat`Woman> are you still running 95 or 98?
[06 Jan/20:46] <pyrokiwi> hmmm nz costs more then us 4 hardware
[06 Jan/20:46] <pyrokiwi> 98 works fine cause hav fat32 hdrive
[06 Jan/20:46] <pyrokiwi> fat32 13gig hdrive is only good thing
[06 Jan/20:46] <Cat`Woman> well, you will get better speed if you run 95
[06 Jan/20:46] <Kawi> but 98 is better than 95 :)
[06 Jan/20:46] <pyrokiwi> yeh but 95 doesnt support 13gig hdrive
[06 Jan/20:46] <Cat`Woman> trust me, I work on 166's all day at work (they are always breaking)
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[06 Jan/20:47] <pyrokiwi> lol mine is p166mmx 32ram (1-dimm) 13gig hdrive
[06 Jan/20:47] <pyrokiwi> so it is better then a lot
[06 Jan/20:47] <Cat`Woman> win95b (osr2) does
[06 Jan/20:47] <pyrokiwi> yeh but we dont hav
[06 Jan/20:47] <pyrokiwi> anyway i want win98
[06 Jan/20:48] <Cat`Woman> minimally you should pickup a stick of 32meg ram
[06 Jan/20:48] <Kawi> for sure easier to do the simple things and I love easier :)
[06 Jan/20:48] <Cat`Woman> you should be able to do that for 40bucks
[06 Jan/20:48] <pyrokiwi> i think our p166 chip is one of the best cause there was a ride range of them and ours was one of the latest
[06 Jan/20:48] <pyrokiwi> 40bucks us?
[06 Jan/20:48] <pyrokiwi> where from
[06 Jan/20:48] <pyrokiwi> in nz it is EXPENSIVE
[06 Jan/20:48] <Cat`Woman> order it online
[06 Jan/20:48] <pyrokiwi> where from?
[06 Jan/20:49] <Cat`Woman> www.pricewatch.com check it out
[06 Jan/20:49] <Cat`Woman> you will have to arrange international shipping but you can do it
[06 Jan/20:50] <Cat`Woman> or you can send me money and I will send you some ;)
[06 Jan/20:50] <pyrokiwi> lol but how much shipping?
[06 Jan/20:50] <Kawi> I hope I get a job in the states when I'm finished school money is worth more and prices are much nicer :)
[06 Jan/20:50] <pyrokiwi> yeh
[06 Jan/20:50] <pyrokiwi> i wanna live in nz
[06 Jan/20:50] <Cat`Woman> if you don't mind waiting a little while it would cost about $20.00 us postal
[06 Jan/20:51] <Cat`Woman> i like it here
[06 Jan/20:51] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm that is 120kiwi altogether
[06 Jan/20:51] <Kawi> I couldn't believe the price difference when I got the conputer shoppers mag
[06 Jan/20:51] <Cat`Woman> heh?
[06 Jan/20:51] <Cat`Woman> that is for 64
[06 Jan/20:51] <pyrokiwi> 4 64 more hmmm
[06 Jan/20:51] <Cat`Woman> you only need anohter 32 if you are running a 166, much more than that wont help
[06 Jan/20:52] <pyrokiwi> hav to talk to dad and look at stuff
[06 Jan/20:52] <pyrokiwi> yeh i need another 32
[06 Jan/20:52] <Cat`Woman> i think you could do it all for under $60.00 us dollars
[06 Jan/20:52] <pyrokiwi> hmmm that is 120kiwi
[06 Jan/20:52] <Cat`Woman> 120kiwi (I didn't get that part sorry)
[06 Jan/20:52] <pyrokiwi> i will look and think
[06 Jan/20:52] <pyrokiwi> ahha :)
[06 Jan/20:52] <Cat`Woman> that is about 70 us dollars I think
[06 Jan/20:53] <Kawi> purokiwi too bad you don't live around here I have lots of 72pin ram
[06 Jan/20:53] <pyrokiwi> lol
[06 Jan/20:53] <pyrokiwi> nah it uses dimm (128)
[06 Jan/20:53] <pyrokiwi> it is not that ancient
[06 Jan/20:53] <Kawi> heh ooops sorry 
[06 Jan/20:54] <Cat`Woman> I am buying 2 128 pc 100s this week to get ready for win2k
[06 Jan/20:54] <Cat`Woman> one for me and one for det
[06 Jan/20:54] <pyrokiwi> lol i do need 72 4 another p166 i own but
[06 Jan/20:54] <pyrokiwi> lucky buy me 1
[06 Jan/20:54] <Kawi> don't worry I have many old girls on my network don't even know why there hooked up :)
[06 Jan/20:55] <Kawi> look cool for when people come over I guess
[06 Jan/20:55] <pyrokiwi> lol
[06 Jan/20:55] <pyrokiwi> yeh
[06 Jan/20:55] <Kawi> all the screen savers going at once and all
[06 Jan/20:55] <pyrokiwi> i hav older p166 not as good chip crummier mb
[06 Jan/20:55] <Kawi> do you have them networked together?
[06 Jan/20:55] <pyrokiwi> not yet
[06 Jan/20:55] <pyrokiwi> cause hav no cdrom
[06 Jan/20:55] <pyrokiwi> i hav linux on
[06 Jan/20:55] <pyrokiwi> but i need a moniter
[06 Jan/20:56] <pyrokiwi> to hav both running and configure
[06 Jan/20:56] <Cat`Woman> pyro... get an a/b switch, have both systems on the same monitor
[06 Jan/20:56] <pyrokiwi> but i will be able to buy i think cause i got 76kiwi+ from paperrun
[06 Jan/20:57] <pyrokiwi> nah i want 2 moniters so i can hav both running at same time
[06 Jan/20:57] <Cat`Woman> why?
[06 Jan/20:57] <pyrokiwi> may not network until i can afford long cable
[06 Jan/20:57] <pyrokiwi> so i can use mine if my dad is using the other
[06 Jan/20:57] <Kawi> Cat it looks cool :)
[06 Jan/20:57] <Cat`Woman> i see
[06 Jan/20:57] <Cat`Woman> Kawi... waste
[06 Jan/20:57] <Kawi> noway 
[06 Jan/20:57] <Cat`Woman> waste not want not
[06 Jan/20:57] <Cat`Woman> we have det's system and the server on teh same monitor
[06 Jan/20:58] <pyrokiwi> hmmm yeh
[06 Jan/20:58] <Cat`Woman> works out nice that way, saves space 
[06 Jan/20:58] <Kawi> my electric here is payed so there is no wasting going on here :) for me anyway
[06 Jan/20:58] <Cat`Woman> same here, military houseing covers all that, but I think monitors are pretty unsightly
[06 Jan/20:58] <pyrokiwi> hmm yeh
[06 Jan/20:59] <Cat`Woman> I worked hard to find a cute case and a cute monitor that matched my cute case
[06 Jan/20:59] <pyrokiwi> my friends took base of theirs and hav it and moniter on a large shelf
[06 Jan/20:59] <Kawi> lol
[06 Jan/20:59] <Cat`Woman> with 5 systems in the house we need all the space we can get
[06 Jan/20:59] <pyrokiwi> moniter on top of desktop 486 linux server
[06 Jan/21:00] <Kawi> I have 5 boxes in my apartment 2 in the living room 2 in the bedroom and one in the spare just so I can reach one anywhere in the house
[06 Jan/21:00] <Cat`Woman> wow, and I felt old when I had to use dos today at work
[06 Jan/21:00] <Cat`Woman> we still have 1 486DX there
[06 Jan/21:00] <Kawi> next I need one in the bathroom but my Girlfriend is not crazy about it :)
[06 Jan/21:00] <Cat`Woman> ok, geeks... this will show your age
[06 Jan/21:00] <Cat`Woman> ..
[06 Jan/21:00] <Cat`Woman> what is the difference between a DX and an SX?
[06 Jan/21:00] <pyrokiwi> nah the linux server is only to serve there internet connection not 4 file serving
[06 Jan/21:00] <CJ^> co-processor
[06 Jan/21:01] <pyrokiwi> so the server works fine
[06 Jan/21:01] <Cat`Woman> geez cj.. I knew you would know that
[06 Jan/21:01] <CJ^> :)
[06 Jan/21:01] <pyrokiwi> lol
[06 Jan/21:01] <CJ^> l33t g33k
[06 Jan/21:01] <pyrokiwi> basically 
[06 Jan/21:01] <pyrokiwi> dx sux but sk sux more :)
[06 Jan/21:01] <CJ^> dx 4 100 is a good proc..
[06 Jan/21:01] <CJ^> good ole workhorse..
[06 Jan/21:01] <Kawi> for linux it's great
[06 Jan/21:02] <Kawi> my linux box is a 486 100 with 64 megs runs nice
[06 Jan/21:02] <Cat`Woman> I remember when shane and I got our first puter together and it was a dx and we thought we were all cool because our friends had SX's...  He is still contemplating changing his last name to Jones
[06 Jan/21:02] <pyrokiwi> yeh i hav a spare mb with dx-4-100 16 ram (2x8meg-72pin) couple of vesa slots and more isa
[06 Jan/21:02] <Kawi> hehe
[06 Jan/21:03] <Cat`Woman> vesa? eww
[06 Jan/21:03] <pyrokiwi> which someday i will turn into server
[06 Jan/21:03] <CJ^> MCA
[06 Jan/21:03] <CJ^> try that
[06 Jan/21:03] <pyrokiwi> nah vesa can be good cause u can pick up cheap awesome cards 4 it
[06 Jan/21:03] <CJ^> would like to see pyro point out the MCA and the PCI 
[06 Jan/21:03] <pyrokiwi> huh
[06 Jan/21:04] <CJ^> or an EISA card...
[06 Jan/21:04] <CJ^> lol
[06 Jan/21:04] <CJ^> lok at him  huh?
[06 Jan/21:04] <CJ^> MCA
[06 Jan/21:04] <CJ^> micro channel...
[06 Jan/21:04] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm ok oh yeah them
[06 Jan/21:04] <CJ^> IBM's answer to speed....
[06 Jan/21:04] <CJ^> looks like a PCI slot...
[06 Jan/21:04] <pyrokiwi> oh hav u seen an mfm i think it is hdrive
[06 Jan/21:04] <CJ^> MFM RLL
[06 Jan/21:04] <Kawi> yup
[06 Jan/21:04] <pyrokiwi> they had 2 cables PLUS power cable
[06 Jan/21:04] <CJ^> seen em
[06 Jan/21:04] <Kawi> big old heavy thing :)
[06 Jan/21:04] <pyrokiwi> i yanked 1 to bits the other day the disks make great frisbees :)
[06 Jan/21:04] <CJ^> seen a 15 mb SCSI drive that weighed 12lbs
[06 Jan/21:05] <pyrokiwi> lol
[06 Jan/21:05] <CJ^> 12" long by 8" high too
[06 Jan/21:05] <pyrokiwi> hehe
[06 Jan/21:05] <Cat`Woman> ok gents
[06 Jan/21:05] <pyrokiwi> this mfm was from a 286 with no onboard bios
[06 Jan/21:05] <Cat`Woman> I'll see ya geeks later, I am off to watch the news
[06 Jan/21:05] <pyrokiwi> i was gonna get working 4 fun but when no bios i scrapped it
[06 Jan/21:05] <pyrokiwi> sya
[06 Jan/21:05] <Kawi> I have an old 300 ibm modem card....why I don't know it has those cool little color tabs at the end
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[06 Jan/21:06] <pyrokiwi> lol kew
[06 Jan/21:06] <pyrokiwi> i got a vesa video card
[06 Jan/21:06] <pyrokiwi> it has 1 meg ram
[06 Jan/21:06] <pyrokiwi> it is called something or other accelerator
[06 Jan/21:06] <CJ^> vesa is pathetic...
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[06 Jan/21:07] <Kawi> I had put an add in the paper when I first started school thinking man I will score alot of shit....well that was the thing the only thing I got was shit :)
[06 Jan/21:07] <Dimetera> anyone here know anything about o/cing videocards
[06 Jan/21:07] <pyrokiwi> hmmm only good thing is u can pick up awesome cards cheap
[06 Jan/21:07] <pyrokiwi> Dimetera i know that i never o/c cause i hate wrecked hardware
[06 Jan/21:07] <CJ^> sorry   dont OC at all either...
[06 Jan/21:08] <CJ^> vid cards are touchy that way too..
[06 Jan/21:08] <Kawi> I had an old 8086 for a while too :) 
[06 Jan/21:08] <CJ^> depends on the card though...
[06 Jan/21:08] <Dimetera> ok ok
[06 Jan/21:08] <Kawi> was faster than hell that thing....:)
[06 Jan/21:08] <CJ^> what card ya trying to OC?
[06 Jan/21:08] <pyrokiwi> the only thing i got mine to do was beep
[06 Jan/21:08] <Dimetera> monster 3d
[06 Jan/21:08] <pyrokiwi> and bring up an error message
[06 Jan/21:09] <Kawi> hahaha
[06 Jan/21:09] <CJ^> hmm...
[06 Jan/21:09] <CJ^> they do have an OC app for most of hthe 3dfx cards...
[06 Jan/21:09] <Kawi> I still have a commodor 64 in my closet somewhere
[06 Jan/21:09] <CJ^> touchy but it has worked...
[06 Jan/21:09] <CJ^> with a fan on the card from what ive read...
[06 Jan/21:09] <pyrokiwi> hmmm
[06 Jan/21:09] <Dimetera> k
[06 Jan/21:09] <Kawi> I like that brown color look :)
[06 Jan/21:09] <Dimetera> yeah thats what im doing
[06 Jan/21:10] <Dimetera> i got 2 fans on it
[06 Jan/21:10] <CJ^> hehe 
[06 Jan/21:10] <Dimetera> and a 12v blower
[06 Jan/21:10] <CJ^> good call...
[06 Jan/21:10] <Dimetera> yep
[06 Jan/21:10] <Kawi> what is OC...
[06 Jan/21:10] <CJ^> http://www.tweak3d.net/fastcard/
[06 Jan/21:10] <CJ^> OC  over clcoking
[06 Jan/21:10] <CJ^> er clocking.
[06 Jan/21:11] <Kawi> oh....
[06 Jan/21:11] <CJ^> try that URL
[06 Jan/21:11] <Kawi> man I should now that
[06 Jan/21:11] <pyrokiwi> well my pc started of as a 486 33mghz-320meg-16ram hdrive then went to dx4 100 and a 2nd 640meg hdrive then got win95 then went to a p166 32ram-sr-trio then got 13 gig hdrive 56kmodem and win98 also somewhere along the line we upgraded from 2 speed cdrom to 4speed which we still hav-
[06 Jan/21:11] <Kawi> I won't even start :)
[06 Jan/21:12] <Kawi> but it's been a long way
[06 Jan/21:12] <Dimetera> thnx cj
[06 Jan/21:12] <Kawi> I like it when my teacher tells us stories about the old days :)
[06 Jan/21:12] <CJ^> np
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[06 Jan/21:12] <pyrokiwi> lol
[06 Jan/21:13] <CJ^> hmm
[06 Jan/21:13] <pyrokiwi> basically the dumbest thing about our pc is 4speed cdrom
[06 Jan/21:13] <CJ^> same site has a linux port of that OC util in the works...
[06 Jan/21:13] <CJ^> hey  << my 4 x cdr burner works fine. hehe
[06 Jan/21:13] <Dimetera> i got a 40x and a 4x in same pc
[06 Jan/21:13] <pyrokiwi> lol
[06 Jan/21:13] <Dimetera> and a 5 1/2
[06 Jan/21:13] <Kawi> the nice thing about a home network is that you can save alot of money once you have a good box going
[06 Jan/21:13] <Dimetera> disk
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[06 Jan/21:14] <Kawi> Dimetera you use the 5 1/2 much?? 
[06 Jan/21:14] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm funny thing was with our original box we didnt hav 5 1/2 drive 
[06 Jan/21:14] <Dimetera> no just looks good lol
[06 Jan/21:14] <Kawi> hehehe
[06 Jan/21:14] <pyrokiwi> also the case (which we still have) has NO kb lock (486 33mghz)
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[06 Jan/21:15] <Kawi> man I have to get ride of some of my cases 
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[06 Jan/21:16] <Dimetera> kawi got any atx ones?
[06 Jan/21:16] <pyrokiwi> i want atx
[06 Jan/21:17] <pyrokiwi> and bx chipset motherboard 
[06 Jan/21:17] <Kawi> I picked up this old huge case on wheels a while back the only thing I didn't notice is that it was one of those side mounting ones that really sucked since I had already set it all up
[06 Jan/21:17] <Dimetera> i got a lx motherboard
[06 Jan/21:17] <pyrokiwi> hmm i got tx
[06 Jan/21:17] <Kawi> pyrokiwi I got many kinds :) come down there yours :)
[06 Jan/21:17] <pyrokiwi> huh?
[06 Jan/21:18] <Dimetera> also
[06 Jan/21:18] <Dimetera> my celeron 266mmx has no l2 cache
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[06 Jan/21:18] <Dimetera> which blows
[06 Jan/21:18] <pyrokiwi> do any celerons?
[06 Jan/21:18] <CJ^> yes
[06 Jan/21:19] <CJ^> 128kb on die
[06 Jan/21:19] <pyrokiwi> oh
[06 Jan/21:19] <Kawi> I don't like those noen colors cases yuk...
[06 Jan/21:20] <pyrokiwi> lol
[06 Jan/21:20] <Kawi> I would like a full black system those are real nice :)
[06 Jan/21:20] <pyrokiwi> yeh they rock
[06 Jan/21:20] <pyrokiwi> those ibm ones
[06 Jan/21:20] <Kawi> for sure
[06 Jan/21:20] <Dimetera> but are shit to upgrade
[06 Jan/21:20] <pyrokiwi> i luv them
[06 Jan/21:20] <Kawi> for sure
[06 Jan/21:20] <pyrokiwi> yeh prob are
[06 Jan/21:20] <Dimetera> because you cant find black cd roms anywhere
[06 Jan/21:21] <pyrokiwi> so Kawi my advie is - get out ur spraypaint
[06 Jan/21:21] <Dimetera> or cdr
[06 Jan/21:21] <Dimetera> lol
[06 Jan/21:21] <Kawi> lol 
[06 Jan/21:21] <Kawi> for sure :)
[06 Jan/21:21] <pyrokiwi> and tape up that moniter and any slots in cdrom drive is advisable as well
[06 Jan/21:21] <Kawi> I wonder what that would look like?? hummmm 
[06 Jan/21:22] <pyrokiwi> lol use matt gloss would be uck
[06 Jan/21:22] <Kawi> kinda like when they spray there keyboards in the movie hackers :) heh
[06 Jan/21:22] <pyrokiwi> lol
[06 Jan/21:22] <Dimetera> hehe
[06 Jan/21:22] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm hehe fun topic lets talk about the matrix
[06 Jan/21:23] <Dimetera> that movie rules
[06 Jan/21:23] <Kawi> my uncle just got a 21inch monitor, I would really like one of those
[06 Jan/21:23] <Kawi> that movie was cool
[06 Jan/21:23] <Kawi> been trying to find it myself eversince :)
[06 Jan/21:23] <Dimetera> freaked me out alittle and made me think for awhile
[06 Jan/21:24] <Kawi> hehe
[06 Jan/21:24] <Kawi> i hear ya
[06 Jan/21:24] <Dimetera> any of you play q3a yet?
[06 Jan/21:25] <Kawi> nope my box don't like it
[06 Jan/21:25] <Dimetera> great game it is
[06 Jan/21:25] <Kawi> I can run it but I hate that when you can't run it all out
[06 Jan/21:25] <Kawi> so I hear
[06 Jan/21:25] <Kawi> graphics are kick ass eh?
[06 Jan/21:26] <Dimetera> yeah i know i cant run it all out ether
[06 Jan/21:26] <Dimetera> yeah
[06 Jan/21:26] <Kawi> game play is even better
[06 Jan/21:26] <Dimetera> yep
[06 Jan/21:26] <Kawi> I like gp500 right now
[06 Jan/21:26] <Dimetera> kool
[06 Jan/21:26] <Kawi> until I get new mb and vid card
[06 Jan/21:26] <Dimetera> im more of a quake 1 player myself
[06 Jan/21:27] <pyrokiwi> my box would run q3 like i would run a 999999999999999999999999999999999999 mile course except slower
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[06 Jan/21:27] <Dimetera> hehe
[06 Jan/21:27] <Kawi> I still play Duke heh have lan parties with my budies :)
[06 Jan/21:27] <Kawi> hehe
[06 Jan/21:27] <Kawi> that's all I can run here on my network
[06 Jan/21:27] <Dimetera> duke is cool
[06 Jan/21:28] <Kawi> my friends need network cards so they can bring there own shit over:)
[06 Jan/21:28] <Dimetera> cant wait till duke 4 ever comes out
[06 Jan/21:28] <pyrokiwi> ok brb
[06 Jan/21:28] <Kawi> I still like it
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[06 Jan/21:28] <Kawi> that would be cool
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[06 Jan/21:28] <pyrokiwi> gtg ppls
[06 Jan/21:28] <pyrokiwi> sya
[06 Jan/21:29] <Dimetera> l8r man
[06 Jan/21:29] <Kawi> see ya bud
[06 Jan/21:29] <Kawi> nice talking to ya
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[06 Jan/21:29] <Kawi> Dim what kinda box you got?
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[06 Jan/21:35] <Dimetera> im running a 266mmx celeron with a 40xcdrom,4x cdrom,5 1/2 inch disk,3 1/2 disk,56kmodem,monster 3d,2mb s3 trio video card,soundblaster 64awe gold,ethernet card,13gig hd,540 mb hd
[06 Jan/21:36] <Kawi> cool
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[06 Jan/21:36] <Dimetera> its ok
[06 Jan/21:37] <Kawi> how much ram do you have?
[06 Jan/21:37] <Dimetera> 32mb
[06 Jan/21:37] <Dimetera> i need more
[06 Jan/21:37] <Kawi> for sure you will really notice a difference with quake3
[06 Jan/21:38] <Dimetera> yeah i know
[06 Jan/21:38] <Kawi> I need vid card
[06 Jan/21:38] <Dimetera> it requirs 52 or soemthing
[06 Jan/21:38] <Kawi> I want a PIII733 full load :)
[06 Jan/21:39] <Dimetera> yeah dont we all
[06 Jan/21:39] <Dimetera> =)
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[06 Jan/21:40] <Kawi> my friend has almost the same maching as me, he got a voodoo3 and it made a nice difference on his overall performance
[06 Jan/21:40] <Kawi> didn't think it would
[06 Jan/21:40] <Kawi> but it does
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[06 Jan/21:40] <Dimetera> yeah im getting a voodoo3 3500
[06 Jan/21:40] <Dimetera> i want to watch tv on my pc hehe
[06 Jan/21:40] <Kawi> hehe
[06 Jan/21:41] <Kawi> or watch pc on your tv :)
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[06 Jan/21:41] <Dimetera> yep
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[06 Jan/21:41] <Kawi> oh well time for bed nice talking to ya see ya around
[06 Jan/21:41] <Dimetera> see ya round man
[06 Jan/21:42] <Dimetera> sleep well
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[06 Jan/21:42] <Dimetera> ill be hitting be bed soon also
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[06 Jan/21:43] <Dimetera> well nite everyone see ya tommarrow or later today lol =)
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[06 Jan/23:24] <VWswing> shitty fucking operating system.
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[06 Jan/23:50] <TheKid> hi
[06 Jan/23:51] <TheKid> I got a little windoz problem..
[06 Jan/23:51] <TheKid> cant open any jpg or gif files.
[06 Jan/23:51] <TheKid> anyone ?
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[07 Jan/01:44] <nitewing> ok...i neeeeed some help with my internet connection.
[07 Jan/01:44] <nitewing> i have two but only one werks(the slower one of course) and i dont know y the other wont
[07 Jan/01:45] <nitewing> i get all sorts of dial up errors like 650 629 690 especially
[07 Jan/01:46] <nitewing> anyone?
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[07 Jan/03:11] <Jorge-19> aLGuieN HaBLa ePañoL?
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[07 Jan/03:42] <|adi|> howdy
[07 Jan/03:43] <|adi|> can anyone give me a channel on win32 assembler programming?
[07 Jan/03:43] <|adi|> please
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[07 Jan/03:48] <|adi|> i understand
[07 Jan/03:48] <|adi|> thanx
[07 Jan/03:48] <|adi|> bye
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[07 Jan/04:10] <habs> hello all
[07 Jan/04:12] <habs> could someone tell me what the command is in windows 98 that is similiar to sysedit?  It allows you to turn scandisk off on the bootup.
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[07 Jan/04:38] <marijapan> hi
[07 Jan/04:38] <marijapan> i need some help
[07 Jan/04:38] <marijapan> with netmeeting
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[07 Jan/05:05] <Marcos`> hell anyone here ?
[07 Jan/05:06] <Marcos`> i just set up win98 on a new hd ... everything works great but i cant get my cd rom to be recognized in pure msdos mode .. i installed the driver in msdos and still nothing .. any suggestions ?
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[07 Jan/05:07] <Marcos`> wez you there ?
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[07 Jan/06:46] <Washer> hi
[07 Jan/06:46] <Washer> i have a question
[07 Jan/06:47] <Washer>  ok.. When someone recieves a trojan horse, where does it go in the system registry?
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[07 Jan/06:50] <Washer>  ok.. When someone recieves a trojan horse, where does it go in the system registry?
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[07 Jan/08:06] <Azmodan> -op Athena Proteus Vulcan 
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[07 Jan/08:06] <Azmodan> `say
[07 Jan/08:06] <Azmodan> -op Amsterdam Hashish 
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[07 Jan/08:15] <devilDigg> hi all
[07 Jan/08:15] <devilDigg> i got a problem
[07 Jan/08:15] @ mode #win98 [+v devilDigg] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[07 Jan/08:16] <devilDigg> i installed chessmaster 5000 1.2 right, and its installing a older version of odbc then the one i have, and that f*cked up my newer version
[07 Jan/08:17] <devilDigg> now every time i go to odbc in the control panel i get this error messagebox:
[07 Jan/08:17] <devilDigg> title: odbc installer
[07 Jan/08:20] <devilDigg> text: the odbc resource dll (c:\windows\system\odbcint.dll) is a differnt version than the odbc setup dll (c:\windows\system\odbccp32.dll).
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[07 Jan/08:38] @ mode #win98 [+v _SITH_] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[07 Jan/08:38] <_SITH_> hi
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[07 Jan/08:40] <Psycho^_> Guys can I ask something about partitions?
[07 Jan/08:41] <Psycho^_> hello????????
[07 Jan/08:46] <Psycho^_> Guys can I ask something about partitions?
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[07 Jan/08:50] <Psycho^_> Guys can I ask something about partitions?
[07 Jan/08:50] <devilDigg> ask
[07 Jan/08:51] <Psycho^_> i have win98 and win2000 installed on my computer but in different partitions...I accidentely deleted boot.ini so i can't get into the operating system located in the 2nd partition....I need some help!
[07 Jan/08:52] <devilDigg> reinstall the os from the 2nd partition.. w/out deleting the partition
[07 Jan/08:52] <devilDigg> it will refresh like win98
[07 Jan/08:52] <devilDigg> unless the 2nd partition is win98 then i dont know
[07 Jan/08:52] <devilDigg> you would have to make your own boot.ini
[07 Jan/08:52] <Psycho^_> deldigg:It will erase the previous system I tryed it before...
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[07 Jan/08:53] <Psycho^_> do you have 2 partitions?
[07 Jan/08:53] <devilDigg> yea
[07 Jan/08:53] <crackers-> can someone please send me krnl386.exe
[07 Jan/08:53] @ mode #win98 [+v crackers-] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[07 Jan/08:53] <devilDigg> i've done dual boot..
[07 Jan/08:53] <crackers-> my computer crashjed and it wont run without htat file
[07 Jan/08:53] <devilDigg> crackers no
[07 Jan/08:53] <devilDigg> read the topic
[07 Jan/08:53] <devilDigg> reinstall win98
[07 Jan/08:53] <crackers-> well what the hell am i supposed to do?
[07 Jan/08:53] <crackers-> it wont let me
[07 Jan/08:53] <crackers-> i have the full version not the upgrade
[07 Jan/08:53] <devilDigg> like i said reinstall 98, and no cussin
[07 Jan/08:53] <devilDigg> too bad
[07 Jan/08:53] <crackers-> and when i try to reinstall it says i need the upgrade
[07 Jan/08:53] <Psycho^_> I have win98 on c: and win2000 on d: and now I am in win98....
[07 Jan/08:54] <devilDigg> well my suggestion is you should make your own boot.ini
[07 Jan/08:54] <crackers-> me?
[07 Jan/08:54] <devilDigg> or if im not mistaken win2000 has a restore option
[07 Jan/08:54] <devilDigg> you can restore the installation
[07 Jan/08:54] <devilDigg> no crackers i told you what do do.. 
[07 Jan/08:54] <crackers-> and i told you it wont let me
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[07 Jan/08:54] <crackers-> cause i have the full version
[07 Jan/08:55] <di0de> anyone know how i can make my secondary HDD bootable?
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[07 Jan/08:55] <devilDigg> like nt4 you can restore the system files of the win2000 installtion
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[07 Jan/08:55] <devilDigg> um i know the phoenix bios has that option.. not the award bios though
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[07 Jan/08:55] <Psycho^_> devildigg:i don;t mind creating my own boot.ini but i don't now that long name of the 2nd partition...it was something lik multidisk0...........I can't remember it...do u?
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[07 Jan/08:56] <devilDigg> um use the restore os option in win2000 setup
[07 Jan/08:56] <Psycho^_> i can't it doesn't work
[07 Jan/08:56] <Psycho^_> I tried...
[07 Jan/08:56] <Psycho^_> do u have your boot.ini with 2 partition to send me?
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[07 Jan/08:56] <Psycho^_> or do you remember the 2nd's partition name?
[07 Jan/08:56] <devilDigg> no files
[07 Jan/08:57] <devilDigg> no.., i have win2k beta 3, but i dont have it installed
[07 Jan/08:57] <devilDigg> Psycho^_: read the topic no files
[07 Jan/08:57] <Psycho^_> That's the 1 that I've got
[07 Jan/08:57] <Psycho^_> beta 3
[07 Jan/08:58] <devilDigg> well the name of the partition i remember in windows was local disk
[07 Jan/08:58] <devilDigg> is the second partition in fat32 or ntfs, from what you've told me i think its in ntfs
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[07 Jan/08:58] <Psycho^_> fat32
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[07 Jan/08:58] <Psycho^_> no it was somethin very long llike multidisk00....
[07 Jan/08:59] <devilDigg> you will be able to read it in your win98 partition
[07 Jan/09:00] <Psycho^_> I rtied it doesn't work
[07 Jan/09:01] <devilDigg> well then im sorry, i would love to help you but i cant remember whats in boot.ini
[07 Jan/09:03] <devilDigg> um i would recommend you go to #win2k or something.. maybe #windowsnt and ask how you write a boot.ini or something
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[07 Jan/09:17] <DaRkThInG> there any way at all to re-install windows without a format?
[07 Jan/09:18] <Azmodan> hi DT
[07 Jan/09:18] <Azmodan> you want to wipe all windows and then install again?
[07 Jan/09:18] <wez> sure, run setup
[07 Jan/09:18] <DaRkThInG> i don't want to wipe it..
[07 Jan/09:18] <Azmodan> then just run setup from within windows
[07 Jan/09:18] <Azmodan> it will keep all your current settings
[07 Jan/09:18] <DaRkThInG> ok..
[07 Jan/09:19] <DaRkThInG> i'll have to give that a try when i get back up to school..
[07 Jan/09:19] <DaRkThInG> will i have to reinstall all the drivers?
[07 Jan/09:19] <Azmodan> you may have to install some but certainly not all
[07 Jan/09:19] <DaRkThInG> ok...thats cool..
[07 Jan/09:19] <Azmodan> things like sound and video should be kewl
[07 Jan/09:20] <DaRkThInG> well i've traced my modem problems back to when i had a bad harddrive, got the new one and restored a backup..
[07 Jan/09:20] <DaRkThInG> and then the probs started, so something is corrupt
[07 Jan/09:20] <Azmodan> k
[07 Jan/09:20] <Azmodan> thought of just running SFC?
[07 Jan/09:20] <DaRkThInG> yah..
[07 Jan/09:21] <DaRkThInG> it finds a few files :P
[07 Jan/09:21] <Azmodan> k
[07 Jan/09:21] <DaRkThInG> i haven't replaced them all..
[07 Jan/09:21] <DaRkThInG> i guess that might be a good idea..
[07 Jan/09:21] <Azmodan> I would say so
[07 Jan/09:22] <DaRkThInG> i don't have the cd but the cabs are on my hd, i guess that will suffice.
[07 Jan/09:23] <Azmodan> it sure will
[07 Jan/09:24] <DaRkThInG> uninst.exe in c:\windows date changed..
[07 Jan/09:24] <DaRkThInG> should I just restore everything?
[07 Jan/09:26] <DaRkThInG> lol i haven't messed with this because i know i will restore something I didn't need to..
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[07 Jan/09:30] <DaRkThInG> it brings up loads of exe files yay...
[07 Jan/09:31] <DaRkThInG> comctl32.dll
[07 Jan/09:31] <DaRkThInG> date and time is different on thata one..
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[07 Jan/09:34] <devilDigg> hi all
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[07 Jan/10:01] <jamezbond> anyone know how to get rid of the Task Scheduler out of the sytem tray or delete it all together?
[07 Jan/10:02] <devilDigg> um open it
[07 Jan/10:02] <devilDigg> and go to advanced\stop using task scheduler
[07 Jan/10:02] <devilDigg> advanced is a menu
[07 Jan/10:03] <jamezbond> wow its that easy
[07 Jan/10:03] <jamezbond> thanks devilDigg
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[07 Jan/10:29] <Half_L> hello
[07 Jan/10:30] <Half_L> can someone give me some help ?
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[07 Jan/10:53] <kdsplace> Hi
[07 Jan/10:53] @ mode #win98 [+v kdsplace] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[07 Jan/10:53] <CJ^> hey
[07 Jan/10:53] <kdsplace> is there a program that allows you to delte one file from a cd rw without formating the ENTIRE disk?
[07 Jan/10:54] <kdsplace> thanks vulcan
[07 Jan/10:54] <CJ^> well what CDRW apps have you tried so far?
[07 Jan/10:54] <CJ^> `op
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[07 Jan/10:54] <kdsplace> I used apadtec to creat the cd
[07 Jan/10:54] <kdsplace> But I want a file delted
[07 Jan/10:54] <kdsplace> it wony let me
[07 Jan/10:55] <CJ^> well what version?
[07 Jan/10:55] <kdsplace> 3.0
[07 Jan/10:55] <CJ^> ok..
[07 Jan/10:55] <CJ^> that may be the issue...
[07 Jan/10:55] <CJ^> might want to see if you can upgrade it to 4.0
[07 Jan/10:55] <CJ^> or check out Nero
[07 Jan/10:56] <kdsplace> nero, where can i get that?
[07 Jan/10:56] <CJ^> download.com
[07 Jan/10:56] <kdsplace> cool
[07 Jan/10:56] <CJ^> there is a demo version there.
[07 Jan/10:56] <kdsplace> is it freeware?
[07 Jan/10:57] <CJ^> but it has a link to the manuafacture
[07 Jan/10:57] <CJ^> no
[07 Jan/10:57] <CJ^> none of the good CD burn apps are free.
[07 Jan/10:57] <CJ^> cept under linux..
[07 Jan/10:57] <kdsplace> damn
[07 Jan/10:57] <kdsplace> thanks cj
[07 Jan/10:57] <CJ^> and i think Gtoaster under Linux may allow that
[07 Jan/10:57] <kdsplace> I papreciate the help
[07 Jan/10:57] <CJ^> np
[07 Jan/10:58] <CJ^> but if you have the full version of EZ CD
[07 Jan/10:58] <CJ^> you should be able to download the upgrade
[07 Jan/10:59] <CJ^> http://www.adaptec.com/support/files/upgrades.html
[07 Jan/11:00] <CJ^> try there
[07 Jan/11:00] <kdsplace> cool
[07 Jan/11:00] <kdsplace> I will
[07 Jan/11:00] <kdsplace> this cd came with the drive so i figured it was shit
[07 Jan/11:00] <kdsplace> lol
[07 Jan/11:00] <CJ^> lanuage
[07 Jan/11:00] <CJ^> well te upgrade is only to 3.5
[07 Jan/11:00] <CJ^> not 4
[07 Jan/11:00] <CJ^> so...
[07 Jan/11:01] <CJ^> maybe 3.5 has newer features
[07 Jan/11:01] <kdsplace> wait
[07 Jan/11:01] <kdsplace> I have 3.5 c
[07 Jan/11:02] <kdsplace> damn
[07 Jan/11:02] <kdsplace> language, huh?
[07 Jan/11:02] <CJ^> might waan read the FAQ at adaptec's site then...
[07 Jan/11:02] <kdsplace> I need 4
[07 Jan/11:02] <kdsplace> oh well
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[07 Jan/11:02] <CJ^> see what it says....
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[07 Jan/11:02] <kdsplace> ok
[07 Jan/11:02] <kdsplace> I did
[07 Jan/11:02] <kdsplace> it says nothing
[07 Jan/11:02] <CJ^> yes language.. no cussing...
[07 Jan/11:03] <kdsplace> oh, sorry
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[07 Jan/11:07] <Alien1> Hey yall.
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[07 Jan/11:07] <Alien1> can someone help me?
[07 Jan/11:07] <Alien1> how do i remove somthing from my DeskTop
[07 Jan/11:08] <wez> what is the someting?
[07 Jan/11:08] <Alien1> it doesen't have delete on it
[07 Jan/11:08] <CJ^> right click and choose delete
[07 Jan/11:08] <CJ^> ahhh
[07 Jan/11:08] <CJ^> what are you trying to delete?
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[07 Jan/11:09] <Alien1> Mcafee file shreader
[07 Jan/11:09] <Alien1> and
[07 Jan/11:09] <Alien1> McAfee Fortress
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[07 Jan/11:10] <Alien1> any clue?
[07 Jan/11:10] <MattP21> i need help with a w98 r2.0 dvd player
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[07 Jan/11:17] <walkndude> wonder if you can still find 101 key  keyboards
[07 Jan/11:17] <Alien1> Walkndude,
[07 Jan/11:17] <Alien1> do you know how to delete a file on the desktop that does NOT have delete
[07 Jan/11:17] <Alien1> on it
[07 Jan/11:18] <kdsplace> I am AWAY. Reason: Autoaway after 15 minutes [Pipscript][Version 0.85 Beta]
[07 Jan/11:18] <walkndude> try the delete key?
[07 Jan/11:18] <walkndude> what file?
[07 Jan/11:18] <Alien1> McAfee Fortress
[07 Jan/11:18] <Alien1> it doesent werk
[07 Jan/11:19] <walkndude> did you uninstall the program?
[07 Jan/11:19] <Alien1> yes
[07 Jan/11:19] <Alien1> nuts n bolts
[07 Jan/11:19] <walkndude> might try Pole Edit or tweak
[07 Jan/11:19] <walkndude> I haven't used Pole Edit so
[07 Jan/11:20] <walkndude> or try c:\windows\desktop find the link and delete it there
[07 Jan/11:22] <walkndude> wez still at work?
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[07 Jan/11:23] <CJ^> sorry   afk for a moment
[07 Jan/11:23] <CJ^> ?nick Cjafk
[07 Jan/11:23] <Alien1> No link there
[07 Jan/11:23] <Alien1> :(
[07 Jan/11:23] <Alien1> i need to get it off there.
[07 Jan/11:23] <Alien1> or muh dad will shiznit
[07 Jan/11:23] <Alien1> hehe
[07 Jan/11:24] <Alien1> Whats Pole Edit
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[07 Jan/11:24] <Kawi> hello
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[07 Jan/11:25] <Kawi> anyone here ever try vnc?
[07 Jan/11:25] <Kawi> if so what do ya think of it?
[07 Jan/11:25] <CJ^> have never used it......
[07 Jan/11:26] <Alien1> It doesent even have a logo
[07 Jan/11:26] <CJ^> ack death lag
[07 Jan/11:26] <Kawi> cj ever hear anything about it?
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[07 Jan/11:26] <CJ^> yes
[07 Jan/11:26] <CJ^> seen ppl use it all the time...
[07 Jan/11:26] <CJ^> never used it personally though
[07 Jan/11:26] <Kawi> cool
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[07 Jan/11:28] <Kawi> I'm finaly getting a burner this week :)
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[07 Jan/11:31] <Kawi> cool tnx for the voice :)
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[07 Jan/11:33] <devilDigg> hi all
[07 Jan/11:33] <Kawi> howdy
[07 Jan/11:33] <walkndude> hi
[07 Jan/11:34] <namehere> occasionally, windows boots to a black screen protection error, I have tracked this down to the irq for my scsi adapter changing from 12 to 3 for no apparent reason, does anyone know why this would happen?
[07 Jan/11:34] <CJ^> what SCSI adapter?
[07 Jan/11:35] <namehere> adaptec 2904 ( not 2940 ) a cheap one used for single devices, I have a cdr attached
[07 Jan/11:35] <devilDigg> woudl it be smart to overclock my p2 400 mhz?
[07 Jan/11:35] <CJ^> namehere ok  PCI or ISA?
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[07 Jan/11:36] <walkndude> prob wouldn't hurt anything if you keep it cool 
[07 Jan/11:37] <namehere> pci - just another point , on rare occasions, windows will also redetect my monitor, an set it as a general pnp ?
[07 Jan/11:37] <Kawi> I woudln't but that's me
[07 Jan/11:37] <Kawi> just don't go crazy on it :)
[07 Jan/11:37] <CJ^> namehere.. if its PCI  then the IRQ will dance...
[07 Jan/11:37] <devilDigg> kawi: to me?
[07 Jan/11:37] <CJ^> PnP and all...
[07 Jan/11:38] <walkndude> I hear they aren't the best for overclocking
[07 Jan/11:38] <devilDigg> oh.. i know the celeron 300a is good to overclock
[07 Jan/11:38] <namehere> CJ^ can I disable pnp detection when booting ?
[07 Jan/11:38] <devilDigg> and that it can run at 450mhz
[07 Jan/11:38] <CJ^> go in the BIOS
[07 Jan/11:38] <CJ^> tell it NoN-PnP OS
[07 Jan/11:39] <CJ^> that should help
[07 Jan/11:39] <walkndude> I had a problem like that once , I think I ended up getting updated device drivers for the MB
[07 Jan/11:39] <CJ^> that could help also...
[07 Jan/11:39] <namehere> okay, so enable pnp os for setup, then disable to try and fix a set of working settings?
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[07 Jan/11:40] <devilDigg> i know they arent now:
[07 Jan/11:40] <devilDigg> Operating these processors at a bus frequency other than 100 MHz may void the warranty. 
[07 Jan/11:40] <devilDigg> from intel.com
[07 Jan/11:41] <CJ^> name  you can disable PnP in the bios perm
[07 Jan/11:41] <CJ^> its nto really going to affect much in teh way 98 operates..
[07 Jan/11:41] <namehere> okay, thanks - I'll try that :) 
[07 Jan/11:41] <CJ^> cept it does tend to settle the IRQ jumps some cards go through
[07 Jan/11:42] <walkndude> might try to disable IRQ Steering also.......
[07 Jan/11:42] <namehere> CJ^ I think I may have enabled that a couple of months ago, when I changed back from linux
[07 Jan/11:43] <CJ^> well  i would look to see whats goign on in the device manager
[07 Jan/11:43] <CJ^> also chekc the SCSI bios to see if the IRQ is set there as well..
[07 Jan/11:44] <namehere> okay, I reset the bios a while back so those may have changed
[07 Jan/11:44] <namehere> thanks
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[07 Jan/11:46] <walkndude> SCSI can be fun at times
[07 Jan/11:47] <CJ^> never have the problems with scsi that i do with IDE...
[07 Jan/11:47] <CJ^> like this scsi burner i have...
[07 Jan/11:47] <CJ^> i can do 4x burns.. np
[07 Jan/11:47] <CJ^> IDE bruners on teh other hand...:PP
[07 Jan/11:48] <CJ^> hardly ever
[07 Jan/11:48] <walkndude> I did a few times but with S7 boards mainly
[07 Jan/11:48] <CJ^> yeah well those can be touchy with teh ALi5  and VIA chipsets..
[07 Jan/11:48] <walkndude> but new drivers fixed the problem
[07 Jan/11:48] <CJ^> and dont even go into the SiS crap
[07 Jan/11:49] <walkndude> VIA..I think has got most of the bugs out now
[07 Jan/11:49] <CJ^> seems so
[07 Jan/11:49] <CJ^> at least they dont have issue with Higher end AGP cards
[07 Jan/11:49] <CJ^> lest not that ive really seen
[07 Jan/11:49] <CJ^> just the AGP driver at times...
[07 Jan/11:50] <walkndude> SIG had a fix before the new VIA drivers came out..it was only a 6 page easy fix
[07 Jan/11:51] <devilDigg> cj did you install linux /w win98 installed?
[07 Jan/11:51] <devilDigg> and what video card do you have?
[07 Jan/11:51] <CJ^> yeap
[07 Jan/11:51] <CJ^> win98 and rh 6.1 dual boot
[07 Jan/11:51] <CJ^> also did Corel and SuSE
[07 Jan/11:51] <devilDigg> ok
[07 Jan/11:51] <CJ^> on an TNT2
[07 Jan/11:51] <devilDigg> oh..
[07 Jan/11:51] <CJ^> works great
[07 Jan/11:51] <devilDigg> because i have a voodoo3 3000 and i dont have the drivers for it
[07 Jan/11:52] <devilDigg> or for my burner, or dvd, or anything else including sound for linux
[07 Jan/11:52] <CJ^> RH6.1 shoudl see it...
[07 Jan/11:52] <walkndude> is the disk access a lot faster in Linux?
[07 Jan/11:52] <CJ^> burner will be seen with a burn app
[07 Jan/11:52] <CJ^> try Gtoaster
[07 Jan/11:52] <CJ^> hmm...
[07 Jan/11:52] <CJ^> seems so...
[07 Jan/11:52] <devilDigg> ok no problem
[07 Jan/11:52] <CJ^> but  its hte GUI that is faster really...
[07 Jan/11:52] <devilDigg> i got a sound blaster live
[07 Jan/11:52] <devilDigg> value
[07 Jan/11:52] <CJ^> dude
[07 Jan/11:53] <CJ^> i have the SBlive as well..
[07 Jan/11:53] <CJ^> thats works
[07 Jan/11:53] <devilDigg> ok cool
[07 Jan/11:53] <devilDigg> i guess with sound and internet.. (oh importantly modem drivers..) i can fix everything else
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[07 Jan/11:53] <CJ^> http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/soundcards/sblive.html
[07 Jan/11:53] <CJ^> go there...
[07 Jan/11:53] <devilDigg> i will have to look up the modem drivers
[07 Jan/11:53] <CJ^> print it out
[07 Jan/11:53] <devilDigg> ok
[07 Jan/11:53] <CJ^> and follow all the steps
[07 Jan/11:53] <CJ^> BUT  scroll to teh bottom..
[07 Jan/11:53] <CJ^> and read that first...
[07 Jan/11:54] <CJ^> has a fix for compiling the drivers
[07 Jan/11:54] <devilDigg> i have to compile the drivers?
[07 Jan/11:54] <CJ^> yes
[07 Jan/11:54] <CJ^> easy
[07 Jan/11:54] <CJ^> takes all of 5 minutes
[07 Jan/11:54] <devilDigg> in what language c?
[07 Jan/11:54] <CJ^> lol
[07 Jan/11:54] <CJ^> no no no
[07 Jan/11:54] <CJ^> GCC does the compiling for you
[07 Jan/11:54] <CJ^> make
[07 Jan/11:54] <CJ^> make install
[07 Jan/11:54] <CJ^> you know
[07 Jan/11:55] <devilDigg> oh speaking of programming i finished my latest program
[07 Jan/11:55] <devilDigg> rewriting it as a dll
[07 Jan/11:56] <walkndude> speaking of programming....I'm gonna program a bowl of pinto beans...later all
[07 Jan/11:56] <devilDigg> heh
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[07 Jan/11:57] <CJ^> dd  what distro of linux are you using?
[07 Jan/11:57] <devilDigg> red hat
[07 Jan/11:57] <devilDigg> but im not using it yet
[07 Jan/11:57] <devilDigg> i still havent installed it
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[07 Jan/11:59] <DaDsMoOtH> Is there anyone in here that could help me resolve some irq conflicts?
[07 Jan/11:59] <devilDigg> ask
[07 Jan/11:59] <CJ^> we can try
[07 Jan/11:59] <DaDsMoOtH> haha...well...thought i just did.  :)
[07 Jan/11:59] <CJ^> well.. whats conflicting?
[07 Jan/12:00] <DaDsMoOtH> All i know is that some pieces of hardware are using the same irq
[07 Jan/12:00] <CJ^> ok.. what hardware?
[07 Jan/12:00] <CJ^> and is it causing major issues?
[07 Jan/12:00] <CJ^> cause IRQ sharing is normal....
[07 Jan/12:00] <DaDsMoOtH> I believe it's a major issue...and i'll type out what's using what.
[07 Jan/12:04] <DaDsMoOtH> 'Creative SB Live! Value' 'intel 82371AB/EB PCI to USB Universal Host Controller' and 'IRQ holder for PCI Steering' are all using irq #05
[07 Jan/12:04] <devilDigg> oh :(
[07 Jan/12:05] <CJ^> the SBLive is using IRQ5 for DOS/Legacy mode
[07 Jan/12:05] <CJ^> but thats the smae thign i have
[07 Jan/12:05] <CJ^> what i did was remove the DOS/legacy driver
[07 Jan/12:05] <devilDigg> i have it using irq 11
[07 Jan/12:05] <CJ^> so do i DD
[07 Jan/12:05] <CJ^> but the SBLive will use IRQ 5 for DOS/Legacy
[07 Jan/12:06] <devilDigg> oh
[07 Jan/12:06] <CJ^> all he needs to do it unload the DOS driver
[07 Jan/12:06] <devilDigg> oh yeah.. in the boot up
[07 Jan/12:06] <devilDigg> thats true
[07 Jan/12:06] <CJ^> yeap
[07 Jan/12:06] <DaDsMoOtH> There's a lot more stuff i believe...so, do you want to hear more?
[07 Jan/12:06] <CJ^> msconfig
[07 Jan/12:06] <devilDigg> um my intel 82371AB/EB PCI to USB Universal Host Controller is using irq 9
[07 Jan/12:06] <CJ^> and unload the drivers in autoexec.bat and config.sys
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[07 Jan/12:07] <CJ^> ack
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[07 Jan/12:07] <cherty2> hi
[07 Jan/12:07] <cherty2> i was wondering how do i get windows to run a regedit key with explorer.exe
[07 Jan/12:07] <devilDigg> sure lay it on us
[07 Jan/12:08] <devilDigg> hi cherty2
[07 Jan/12:08] <devilDigg> what do you mean to run it?
[07 Jan/12:08] <CJ^> you want it to run a registry key?
[07 Jan/12:08] <cherty2> cj yep
[07 Jan/12:08] <devilDigg> if you mean to add it to the registry just double click on it
[07 Jan/12:09] <cherty2> i came across the command a while bacck but i dont reember it
[07 Jan/12:09] <devilDigg> what do you mean run a registry key?
[07 Jan/12:09] <CJ^> wait... you want to RUN regedit?
[07 Jan/12:09] <CJ^> see regedit is the registry editor....
[07 Jan/12:09] <CJ^> now  what is it you want to do exactly?
[07 Jan/12:10] <cherty2> well you see
[07 Jan/12:10] <cherty2>  C:\windows\explorer.exe ::{21EC2020-3AEA-1069-A2DD-08002B30309D} will run the control panel
[07 Jan/12:10] <DaDsMoOtH> 'AVerMedia TV Series Device - Video Section' 'AVerMedia TV Series Device - Audio Section' and 'IRQ Holder for PCI Steering' are all using  Irq #10
[07 Jan/12:10] <cherty2> so i was wondering if that would run any other key as well
[07 Jan/12:11] <CJ^> Dad  are you having any problems???
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[07 Jan/12:11] <DaDsMoOtH> yes
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[07 Jan/12:11] <DaDsMoOtH> it crashes a lot
[07 Jan/12:11] <CJ^> cause if not  all this is perfectly normal IRQ usage
[07 Jan/12:11] <DaDsMoOtH> hmmmmmm
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[07 Jan/12:11] <DaDsMoOtH> is it really?
[07 Jan/12:11] <CJ^> remove the DOS/Legacy driver from autoexec.bat and config.sys for the SBlive
[07 Jan/12:12] <N|lz> i HATE win98!!!!!!!
[07 Jan/12:12] <CJ^> IRQ sharing is part of the x86 arcitecture
[07 Jan/12:12] <CJ^> :P
[07 Jan/12:12] <CJ^> ok Nj
[07 Jan/12:12] <CJ^> so whats yer problem?
[07 Jan/12:13] <N|lz> it locs up!
[07 Jan/12:13] <CJ^> NJ  then isolate teh problem..
[07 Jan/12:13] <CJ^> what issues are you having?
[07 Jan/12:13] <CJ^> and are you overclcoking?
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[07 Jan/12:13] <N|lz> I shup try norton ulties!
[07 Jan/12:13] <CJ^> er overclocking...
[07 Jan/12:13] <CJ^> hehe
[07 Jan/12:13] <N|lz> ??
[07 Jan/12:13] <CJ^> well Norton does do that
[07 Jan/12:13] <CJ^> Norton Utilities  right?
[07 Jan/12:13] <CJ^> got Norton crash guard running?
[07 Jan/12:13] <CJ^> if so..DONT
[07 Jan/12:13] <N|lz> anyone now hvere iI can get it?
[07 Jan/12:14] <N|lz> download it!
[07 Jan/12:14] <N|lz> ??
[07 Jan/12:14] <DaDsMoOtH> What is VXD?
[07 Jan/12:14] <CJ^> no9 NJ  thats warez
[07 Jan/12:14] <devilDigg> vxd=virutal device driver
[07 Jan/12:14] <CJ^> we dont support warez
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[07 Jan/12:14] < N|lz!_@mp-217-219-28.daxnet.no was kicked off #win98 by LifeBlood!azmodan@phi.compinet.com (we don't do warez. EOD!)
[07 Jan/12:14] <DaDsMoOtH> When it crashes...it keeps referring to VXD and then a long complicated bunch of garble.
[07 Jan/12:14] <CJ^> Az IS awake
[07 Jan/12:15] <Azmodan> just barely
[07 Jan/12:15] <CJ^> Dads  yeah  i used to see that when i had the DOS drivers loaded for the SB live...
[07 Jan/12:15] <CJ^> unload them  and give it a try
[07 Jan/12:16] <DaDsMoOtH> ok...how do i solve that.  you told me already...but it's over my head.  Can you tell me like you're speaking with an idiot?  :p
[07 Jan/12:16] <CJ^> what i actually did was re-install the drivers  and NOT load the DOS drivers....
[07 Jan/12:16] <CJ^> hehe
[07 Jan/12:16] <CJ^> ok
[07 Jan/12:16] <CJ^> do this..
[07 Jan/12:16] <CJ^> Start
[07 Jan/12:16] <CJ^> RUN
[07 Jan/12:16] <DaDsMoOtH> haha
[07 Jan/12:16] <CJ^> type  msconfig
[07 Jan/12:16] <DaDsMoOtH> k
[07 Jan/12:16] <DaDsMoOtH> done
[07 Jan/12:16] <CJ^> ok
[07 Jan/12:16] <CJ^> see teh autoexec.bat tab?
[07 Jan/12:16] <CJ^> click on that
[07 Jan/12:16] <DaDsMoOtH> k
[07 Jan/12:17] <CJ^> ok
[07 Jan/12:17] <CJ^> anythign that refers to the SB
[07 Jan/12:17] <CJ^> uncheck it
[07 Jan/12:17] <DaDsMoOtH> k
[07 Jan/12:17] <CJ^> <<< actually...  i did it an easier way once before...
[07 Jan/12:17] <DaDsMoOtH> it'll say SB or creative in it, right?
[07 Jan/12:17] <CJ^> just renamed the files to autoexec.old  and config.old
[07 Jan/12:17] <CJ^> right
[07 Jan/12:17] <CJ^> exactly...
[07 Jan/12:18] <CJ^> anythign that says that
[07 Jan/12:18] <CJ^> uncheck it
[07 Jan/12:18] <CJ^> i persoanally dont have anythign in there...
[07 Jan/12:18] <CJ^> works out far better..
[07 Jan/12:18] <DaDsMoOtH> ok...
[07 Jan/12:18] <DaDsMoOtH> so...
[07 Jan/12:18] <DaDsMoOtH> now that's done.
[07 Jan/12:18] <DaDsMoOtH> now what?
[07 Jan/12:18] <CJ^> you may get an error at boot up sayign somethign to the effect that  BS yadda yaddaa aint there...
[07 Jan/12:18] <CJ^> ok
[07 Jan/12:18] <CJ^> config.sys tab
[07 Jan/12:18] <CJ^> check there as well..
[07 Jan/12:18] <CJ^> do the same thing..
[07 Jan/12:19] <DaDsMoOtH> nothing SB related on that tab i believe...
[07 Jan/12:19] <CJ^> well.. what do youhave loading there??
[07 Jan/12:19] <CJ^> cause  win98 doesnt need them really..
[07 Jan/12:19] <CJ^> thats why i just renamed the files..
[07 Jan/12:19] <CJ^> or..  like i had sa8id  just re-installed the drivers and DID not load the DOS drivers...
[07 Jan/12:20] <CJ^> doign a custom install....
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[07 Jan/12:20] <DaDsMoOtH> well...we'll just remove all the SB instances for now and see how it goes.  Sound like a plan?
[07 Jan/12:21] <CJ^> yeap
[07 Jan/12:21] <CJ^> i did that for a bit..
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[07 Jan/12:21] <CJ^> but when i got Live!Ware 3.0
[07 Jan/12:21] <CJ^> i just re-sis it all...
[07 Jan/12:21] <devilDigg> hi w98
[07 Jan/12:21] <CJ^> er re-did
[07 Jan/12:21] <DaDsMoOtH> hmmmmm
[07 Jan/12:21] <CJ^> w98 whois DevilDigg
[07 Jan/12:21] <DaDsMoOtH> So...you think unchecking EVERYTHING will solve all my problems?
[07 Jan/12:21] <Azmodan> he's lagged CJ
[07 Jan/12:21] <DaDsMoOtH> that's all to it?
[07 Jan/12:21] <CJ^> ahh
[07 Jan/12:21] <CJ^> Dad  it may
[07 Jan/12:22] <devilDigg> hi az
[07 Jan/12:22] <Azmodan> hiya devilDigg 
[07 Jan/12:22] <CJ^> most of the issues i had was with the DOS driver loading...
[07 Jan/12:22] <devilDigg> w98 whois CJ^
[07 Jan/12:22] <DaDsMoOtH> Aren't those things there for a reason though?  Why even have them in the first place if you're better off with out them?
[07 Jan/12:22] <CJ^> DOS/Legacy support
[07 Jan/12:23] <CJ^> thats why
[07 Jan/12:23] <CJ^> you dont really need em
[07 Jan/12:23] <CJ^> unless you play DOS games
[07 Jan/12:23] <CJ^> but  if ya do.....
[07 Jan/12:23] <CJ^> its best to make seperate instances for em...
[07 Jan/12:23] <CJ^> legacy support is all but gone from teh industry anyways
[07 Jan/12:24] <devilDigg> he's only 48 secs away, he should have responded by now..
[07 Jan/12:25] <DaDsMoOtH> So...i can leave it like it is now.  But...if w98 keeps crashing, i should probably just uncheck everything on those 2 tabs?
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[07 Jan/12:25] <di0de> can someone try and ping 208.1.217.130 for me plz
[07 Jan/12:26] <CJ^> whast wrong di0de?
[07 Jan/12:26] <CJ^> yes Dad....
[07 Jan/12:26] <CJ^> like i said  ya dont need those files anyways
[07 Jan/12:27] <di0de> trying to determine if anyone else can ping that addr
[07 Jan/12:27] <di0de> just testing it out
[07 Jan/12:27] <DaDsMoOtH> Any other words of advice?
[07 Jan/12:27] <CJ^> well....  are you running Live!ware 3.0 for the SB Live?
[07 Jan/12:28] <CJ^> if not  ya may want to try it out...
[07 Jan/12:28] <CJ^> or at least the newer driver set for the Sblive
[07 Jan/12:28] <CJ^> and newer drivers all around for all hardware
[07 Jan/12:29] * DaDsMoOtH nods
[07 Jan/12:29] <DaDsMoOtH> well...thanx for all the help.  I imagine i'll be back in the very near future.
[07 Jan/12:29] <DaDsMoOtH> :)
[07 Jan/12:30] <CJ^> heh
[07 Jan/12:30] <CJ^> np
[07 Jan/12:30] <DaDsMoOtH> later all!
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[07 Jan/12:34] <Kawi> hey Cj I got vnc working it's great 
[07 Jan/12:34] <CJ^> ahh
[07 Jan/12:34] <Kawi> really simple too
[07 Jan/12:36] <Kawi> my friend's father is giving me his old labtop tonight 486 100mhz should be cool
[07 Jan/12:36] <Kawi> gonna have to setup a docking statoin on my network
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[07 Jan/12:42] <CJ^> `op
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[07 Jan/12:51] <Army_Guy> can i ask a question if it pertains to win95?
[07 Jan/12:51] <Kawi> sure
[07 Jan/12:54] <Army_Guy> i want to format my harddrive ok.. but i will lose my drivers for my cdrom, i have the cdrom drivers on a disk is there a way to get my cdrom working again so i can load win95 off of a cd?
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[07 Jan/12:56] <Kawi> can't you intall the drivers from the disk?
[07 Jan/12:57] <Army_Guy> you mean after i format the hard drive just copy the driver from the disk to the hardrive
[07 Jan/12:57] <Kawi> is it the original disk for the cdrom
[07 Jan/12:58] <CJ^> win95 doesn req drivers for the cdrom
[07 Jan/12:58] <CJ^> unless its a very very old cdrom
[07 Jan/12:58] <CJ^> do you have a boot disk?
[07 Jan/12:58] <CJ^> for win95?
[07 Jan/12:58] <Army_Guy> no its not the original disk .... 
[07 Jan/12:58] <Army_Guy> yeah i have a bnoot disk for it
[07 Jan/12:58] <Azmodan> what is not the original disk?
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[07 Jan/12:59] <CJ^> ok
[07 Jan/12:59] <CJ^> that was interesting
[07 Jan/12:59] <Azmodan> yeah
[07 Jan/13:00] <Azmodan> didn't want to answer my question I guess
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[07 Jan/13:21] <SAS-1>  Anyone here have the 2048 drivers for Vortex2 cards?
[07 Jan/13:24] <CJafk> not i
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[07 Jan/13:25] <CJ^> dotn own a Vortex3 card myself...
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[07 Jan/13:26] <Azmodan> sas, try www.windrivers.com
[07 Jan/13:26] <SAS-1> ok thanks
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[07 Jan/13:32] <`Muff`> 'lo all
[07 Jan/13:32] <Azmodan> hi Muff
[07 Jan/13:33] <`Muff`> Hody Az :)
[07 Jan/13:33] <`Muff`> Howdy even
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[07 Jan/13:33] <`Muff`> Heya concept
[07 Jan/13:34] <^Concept> hello muff
[07 Jan/13:34] <^Concept> who upset Azmodan ????
[07 Jan/13:34] <Azmodan> am I upset?
[07 Jan/13:34] <^Concept> how comes U are not +v ??
[07 Jan/13:35] <Azmodan> -voice azmodan
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[07 Jan/13:35] <Azmodan> hehehehe
[07 Jan/13:35] <^Concept> ic
[07 Jan/13:35] <Azmodan> just hadn't done it yet ;-)
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[07 Jan/13:35] <Azmodan> gidday pyro
[07 Jan/13:36] <pyrokiwi> hiya
[07 Jan/13:36] <pyrokiwi> i hav concussion after my sister brained me with a weighted diving stick in case u did not know also hav cut in head
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[07 Jan/13:37] <`Muff`> pyro, was that one of those thing you throw in the pool and dive after, like a game?
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[07 Jan/13:37] <Mad^Cow> mooo!
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[07 Jan/13:38] <devilDigg> hi all
[07 Jan/13:38] * Mad^Cow kicks muff
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[07 Jan/13:38] <`Muff`> Hola mc, devil
[07 Jan/13:38] <`Muff`> hehehe
[07 Jan/13:38] <devilDigg> pyro!
[07 Jan/13:39] * Mad^Cow toasts pyro
[07 Jan/13:39] <pyrokiwi> hiya
[07 Jan/13:39] <devilDigg> you try the progrma out?
[07 Jan/13:39] <pyrokiwi> not yet
[07 Jan/13:39] <devilDigg> oh
[07 Jan/13:39] <pyrokiwi> but i will
[07 Jan/13:39] <devilDigg> ok
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[07 Jan/13:40] <CJ^> http://www.geeks404.com/downloads/list.cgi?os=boot_disks&section=boot_disks  <<< well looky there... new boot disk URl  :P
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[07 Jan/13:40] <devilDigg> w98 whois CJ^
[07 Jan/13:40] <w98> devildigg: i haven't a clue
[07 Jan/13:40] * `Muff` must bug out, too.  Update downloads finished, must reboot
[07 Jan/13:40] <Azmodan> ciao Muff
[07 Jan/13:40] <devilDigg> w98 whois pyrokiwi
[07 Jan/13:41] <w98> i haven't a clue, devildigg
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[07 Jan/13:41] <CJ^> w98 whois devilDigg
[07 Jan/13:41] <devilDigg> oh, he doesnt have that anymore?
[07 Jan/13:41] <w98> cj^: no idea
[07 Jan/13:42] <CJ^> hmm NS 5 is almost done...
[07 Jan/13:42] <devilDigg> netscape right?
[07 Jan/13:42] <CJ^> yeap
[07 Jan/13:43] <CJ^> problem is... it LOOKS good on win
[07 Jan/13:43] <CJ^> wonder what its gonna look like in Linux though....:P
[07 Jan/13:43] <devilDigg> heh
[07 Jan/13:43] <devilDigg> well i heard linux graphics rock
[07 Jan/13:43] <devilDigg> cant wait to install linux though
[07 Jan/13:43] <CJ^> hype
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[07 Jan/13:48] <devilDigg> wb pryo
[07 Jan/13:48] <pyrokiwi> thanx :)
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[07 Jan/13:49] <BB2> What is the best ftp server program to run under win9x ?
[07 Jan/13:49] <devilDigg> wsftp for me
[07 Jan/13:49] <Azmodan> devilDigg, that is not a server
[07 Jan/13:49] <Azmodan> that is a client
[07 Jan/13:49] <BB2> :)
[07 Jan/13:49] <devilDigg> oh my bad you mean server program
[07 Jan/13:49] <devilDigg> not sure.. 
[07 Jan/13:49] <BB2> yah
[07 Jan/13:50] <mrgone> bb2 serv-u is easy to use
[07 Jan/13:50] <Azmodan> serv-u is used a lot
[07 Jan/13:50] <BB2> mrgone: ok thx i'll check it out
[07 Jan/13:50] <BB2> ok
[07 Jan/13:50] <mrgone> bb2 behave with it :)
[07 Jan/13:50] <BB2> heh ok :)
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[07 Jan/13:53] @ mode #win98 [+v Big`Ed] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[07 Jan/13:53] <Azmodan> hiya Ed
[07 Jan/13:53] <pyrokiwi> yo Big`Ed
[07 Jan/13:53] <Big`Ed> hello SirAz
[07 Jan/13:53] <Big`Ed> hey kiwiboy
[07 Jan/13:53] <pyrokiwi> hiya
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[07 Jan/13:54] <pyrokiwi> Big`Ed wat do u think about sheep?
[07 Jan/13:54] @ mode #win98 [+v CJ^] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[07 Jan/13:54] <devilDigg> Big`Ed!, wb CJ^
[07 Jan/13:54] <Big`Ed> hyYa MrSkippy
[07 Jan/13:54] * Big`Ed KNOWS sheep is a NZ'er Males Best Friend
[07 Jan/13:54] <CJ^> :P
[07 Jan/13:55] <mrgone> hi
[07 Jan/13:55] <Big`Ed> hello - masterhere
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[07 Jan/13:56] <Big`Ed> HEY LOS!
[07 Jan/13:56] <Azmodan> gidday there Los
[07 Jan/13:56] <pyrokiwi> yo LosGuy
[07 Jan/13:56] <LosGuy> howdy
[07 Jan/13:56] <devilDigg> los!
[07 Jan/13:57] <LosGuy> howdy devilDigg
[07 Jan/13:57] <LosGuy> whats up tonight?
[07 Jan/13:58] <Big`Ed> last 5 minutes where FREE warez mode - and everyone took advantage of it
[07 Jan/13:58] <mrgone> oh?
[07 Jan/13:58] * LosGuy dont do warez ... so no loss
[07 Jan/13:58] <CJ^> ?
[07 Jan/13:58] <Big`Ed> if i'm not mistaken the #win98 channel schedule has pick-on pyrokiwi from the top of the hour till 15 after.
[07 Jan/13:58] <pyrokiwi> >?<
[07 Jan/13:59] <CJ^> let begin
[07 Jan/13:59] <LosGuy> EVERY hour of EVERY day
[07 Jan/13:59] <LosGuy> its just too easy
[07 Jan/13:59] <Big`Ed> if DaMan says so
[07 Jan/13:59] <Big`Ed> ok
[07 Jan/13:59] <LosGuy> gets boring
[07 Jan/13:59] <pyrokiwi> hey
[07 Jan/13:59] <pyrokiwi> meany
[07 Jan/14:00] <pyrokiwi> it is pick on americans millenium
[07 Jan/14:00] * Big`Ed didn't write the schedule
[07 Jan/14:00] <CJ^> i got me a side dish of tater tots
[07 Jan/14:00] <Big`Ed> hehe
[07 Jan/14:00] <CJ^> need a main course...
[07 Jan/14:00] <CJ^> any suggestions?
[07 Jan/14:00] <Big`Ed> wonder if you can french fry a kiwi
[07 Jan/14:00] <LosGuy> haha
[07 Jan/14:00] <CJ^> Microwave
[07 Jan/14:00] <pyrokiwi> grrrrr
[07 Jan/14:01] <Big`Ed> pyro had some comment about sheep - wonder if it was for meal purposes?
[07 Jan/14:01] <pyrokiwi> nah some1 told me u hate sheep
[07 Jan/14:02] <Big`Ed> well - they do not say 'come baaaacccckkkk' like they do to you
[07 Jan/14:02] <mrgone> hehe
[07 Jan/14:03] <pyrokiwi> hmmm sheep are cool?
[07 Jan/14:03] <Big`Ed> a NZ boys dream date
[07 Jan/14:03] <pyrokiwi> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[07 Jan/14:03] <CJ^> specially with hip waders on
[07 Jan/14:03] <CJ^> they bounce back...
[07 Jan/14:03] <Big`Ed> hehe
[07 Jan/14:04] <pyrokiwi> grrrrrr
[07 Jan/14:04] * pyrokiwi decided Big`Ed prefers cows
[07 Jan/14:04] <Big`Ed> no - that is elysia - he is from the state that only produces 'steers and queers'
[07 Jan/14:06] <Big`Ed> 10 more minutes
[07 Jan/14:06] <Big`Ed> los?
[07 Jan/14:06] <LosGuy> with what?
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[07 Jan/14:06] <Big`Ed> the top of the hour schedule
[07 Jan/14:06] <pyrokiwi> Big`Ed at least nz ppl date 
[07 Jan/14:06] <Big`Ed> how easy you forget
[07 Jan/14:06] <LosGuy> oh.... 
[07 Jan/14:07] <CJ^> oh?
[07 Jan/14:07] <LosGuy> yeah ... well it is just so danged ... forgettable
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[07 Jan/14:07] <CJ^> now.. wait a min there little falmer
[07 Jan/14:07] <Big`Ed> in the US, we do NOT consider taking the sheep out a DATE
[07 Jan/14:07] <CJ^> er flamer
[07 Jan/14:07] <CJ^> Ed is married...
[07 Jan/14:07] <pyrokiwi> doh[p
[07 Jan/14:08] <pyrokiwi> i see ed meet ed marry
[07 Jan/14:08] <LosGuy> was that a proposal?
[07 Jan/14:08] <pyrokiwi> no that is wat ed does
[07 Jan/14:08] * Big`Ed looks for the little +kb switch
[07 Jan/14:09] * pyrokiwi wonders y Big`Ed plans to kb him when he started it
[07 Jan/14:09] <CJ^> cause ed is in charge...:P
[07 Jan/14:10] <Big`Ed> (cuz i can)
[07 Jan/14:10] <Big`Ed> hehe
[07 Jan/14:10] <Big`Ed> thx CJ^
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[07 Jan/14:11] <Big`Ed> hi j3ss1
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[07 Jan/14:11] <j3ss1> hi
[07 Jan/14:11] <w98> hola, j3ss1
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[07 Jan/14:12] <josef> hello
[07 Jan/14:12] <Big`Ed> hi
[07 Jan/14:12] <josef> hi big ed
[07 Jan/14:12] <josef> im trying to configure a port
[07 Jan/14:14] <Big`Ed> what type, for what, and whats the error?
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[07 Jan/14:14] <josef> anyone know how to set parallel port to ECP mode?
[07 Jan/14:14] <Azmodan> josef, that is normall done in your BIOS
[07 Jan/14:14] <Azmodan> what computer brand do you have?
[07 Jan/14:14] <josef> my moms friend put it together
[07 Jan/14:15] <LosGuy> in bios and in the mini driver if this is for a zip drive
[07 Jan/14:15] <josef> win98, 366, 64m
[07 Jan/14:15] <Azmodan> josef, then chances are you can get to your BIOS by pressing the del key when the computer starts up
[07 Jan/14:15] <josef> its for a quickcam pro
[07 Jan/14:15] <josef> cool
[07 Jan/14:15] <Azmodan> josef, it will normally say which key to hit when you first power on the computer
[07 Jan/14:15] <Big`Ed> from a poweron - not a restart
[07 Jan/14:16] <josef> great
[07 Jan/14:16] <mrgone> mmm george forman grill 
[07 Jan/14:16] <josef> cool...thankyou
[07 Jan/14:16] <josef> im gonna go try
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[07 Jan/14:17] <LosGuy> hahah mrgone
[07 Jan/14:17] <Big`Ed> ding - time to be nice to kiwi
[07 Jan/14:17] <Big`Ed> clock says it's pick on ebay junkies
[07 Jan/14:17] <pyrokiwi> pls
[07 Jan/14:18] <LosGuy> nice? ...what is that?
[07 Jan/14:18] * LosGuy dont do nice
[07 Jan/14:18] <pyrokiwi> LosGuy needs a knock in the head
[07 Jan/14:18] <LosGuy> pyrokiwi needs a kick in the channel
[07 Jan/14:19] <mrgone> mmm
[07 Jan/14:19] <mrgone> fries
[07 Jan/14:19] * CJ^ starts pelting pyro with tasty Tater Tots  fresh from the Microwave
[07 Jan/14:19] <pyrokiwi> thanx
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[07 Jan/14:19] <mrgone> thje george forman grill rules, did a plate of fries in like 3 minutes
[07 Jan/14:19] <CJ^> you watching a Infomercial???
[07 Jan/14:19] <Big`Ed> wb pyrokiwi
[07 Jan/14:19] <CJ^> LOL
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[07 Jan/14:19] <CJ^> oh gawd
[07 Jan/14:20] <mrgone> nope
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[07 Jan/14:20] <CJ^> you actually bought that thing??
[07 Jan/14:20] <jncoboy> is there a way to make a modem drop a connection when i receive a call?
[07 Jan/14:20] <mrgone> i have one in my kitchen
[07 Jan/14:20] <j3ss1> my job deals with ifomercials
[07 Jan/14:20] <j3ss1> I rank them
[07 Jan/14:20] <Big`Ed> jncoboy - how can you recieve a call - if your on-line?
[07 Jan/14:20] <mrgone> got the biggest one they sell
[07 Jan/14:20] <Big`Ed> that would be a phone company option
[07 Jan/14:20] <jncoboy> i mean..
[07 Jan/14:20] <mrgone> cj it rules
[07 Jan/14:20] <jncoboy> if i get a call the modem disconnects
[07 Jan/14:20] <Big`Ed> jncoboy - how would you know you get a call?  call waiting?
[07 Jan/14:20] <LosGuy> jncoboy you cant, not with a normal phone line anyway
[07 Jan/14:22] <jncoboy> o
[07 Jan/14:22] <LosGuy> if you have call waiting that is disconnecting you... you can disable that
[07 Jan/14:22] <Big`Ed> call waiting will 'drop a modem'
[07 Jan/14:22] <jncoboy> wonder how much call waiting is
[07 Jan/14:22] <mrgone> i got call waiting, was 1$ a mnth extra plus i get unlimited 3 way calls
[07 Jan/14:22] <mrgone> i got call id too, so i can tell when ed pranks me at 3am thank you muchly ed
[07 Jan/14:22] <pyrokiwi> lol
[07 Jan/14:22] <LosGuy> haha
[07 Jan/14:22] <jncoboy> so if i get call waiting...it will drop my modem?
[07 Jan/14:22] <pyrokiwi> he can prank me if he wants
[07 Jan/14:22] <pyrokiwi> he will pay SO much
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[07 Jan/14:23] <mrgone> lol
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[07 Jan/14:23] <CJ^> 11 cents a min
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[07 Jan/14:23] <CJ^> aint much really..
[07 Jan/14:23] <Big`Ed> jncoboy - yes - if you allow it to work - the wait beep will disconnect you
[07 Jan/14:23] <mrgone> 1$ a minute is worth it to make pyrokiwi get out of bed at 5am
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[07 Jan/14:23] <LosGuy> but Big`Ed has local connections in NZ that he can have him do it for him
[07 Jan/14:23] <Princesaa> hello
[07 Jan/14:23] <Princesaa> thank you, Vulcan
[07 Jan/14:23] <pyrokiwi> hmmm then i will find there number
[07 Jan/14:23] <Big`Ed> hello Princesaa
[07 Jan/14:23] <pyrokiwi> i hav phone with caller id disabled :)
[07 Jan/14:23] <mrgone> *69
[07 Jan/14:24] <CJ^> hehe Pingus   
[07 Jan/14:24] <CJ^> gawd  
[07 Jan/14:24] <CJ^> Linuc clone of Lemmings  
[07 Jan/14:24] <pyrokiwi> oh well gtg sya
[07 Jan/14:24] <Princesaa> hello, Big Ed. How are you?
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[07 Jan/14:24] <Big`Ed> i'm great - you?
[07 Jan/14:24] <Princesaa> Doing fine thanks..except for sneezing every now & then..hehehe
[07 Jan/14:25] * Big`Ed passes the klenix
[07 Jan/14:25] <mrgone> mmm needs salt brb
[07 Jan/14:25] * Princesaa thanks Big'Ed
[07 Jan/14:25] <Big`Ed> so - how did all work out for you?
[07 Jan/14:26] ! staraway^ is known as star^^
[07 Jan/14:26] <mrgone> salt and cheese is hard to get out of a keyboard... i guess i shouldnt be eating on the pc...  nah
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[07 Jan/14:26] <Princesaa> Big..it hasn't :) I went to bed and slept like a baby..hehe & have only logged on now..Oh and guess what?
[07 Jan/14:26] <Big`Ed> hehe
[07 Jan/14:26] <Princesaa> lol
[07 Jan/14:26] @ mode #win98 [+v pizzaboy] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[07 Jan/14:26] <Princesaa> I've forgotten everything...hahahaha
[07 Jan/14:26] <Big`Ed> what?
[07 Jan/14:26] <pizzaboy> where do i go to change the program that opens a type of file
[07 Jan/14:26] * Big`Ed aims his big-boot at Princesaa
[07 Jan/14:27] <LosGuy> pizzaboy hold down shift and RIGHT click choose open with
[07 Jan/14:27] <LosGuy> (on the file you want to change the association on)
[07 Jan/14:27] <Princesaa> GASP..you'd aim such a thing a me...TSK TSK..I'm gonna get the KING after you..LMAO
[07 Jan/14:27] <pizzaboy> thanks
[07 Jan/14:27] <LosGuy> then tell it what program you want to use
[07 Jan/14:27] * Big`Ed hides
[07 Jan/14:27] <LosGuy> and choose always open with ..if yyou want
[07 Jan/14:28] <pizzaboy> hmmmmm. isnt there somewhere to go to permanently change
[07 Jan/14:28] <pizzaboy> ive been in it before. but i forget where i went
[07 Jan/14:28] <LosGuy> this will do that
[07 Jan/14:28] <LosGuy> but yeah
[07 Jan/14:28] <pizzaboy> ahhh
[07 Jan/14:28] <pizzaboy> ok
[07 Jan/14:28] <LosGuy> it is in explorer
[07 Jan/14:28] <Princesaa> lol
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[07 Jan/14:28] <LosGuy> under view
[07 Jan/14:28] <LosGuy> folder options
[07 Jan/14:29] <pizzaboy> ahhh ok
[07 Jan/14:29] <pizzaboy> there we go
[07 Jan/14:29] <mrgone> mmm
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[07 Jan/14:32] <Princesaa> hmmm must be lag
[07 Jan/14:33] * Big`Ed is hideing
[07 Jan/14:33] <Princesaa> hehehe
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[07 Jan/14:40] <LosGuy> Jakeofall!! how are ya!
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[07 Jan/14:41] <Jakeofall> not bad,, just stopping by to see whats going on 
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[07 Jan/14:41] <Azmodan> gidday there jake
[07 Jan/14:41] <Jakeofall> hay az
[07 Jan/14:43] <Jakeofall> how's win98 these days since win2k was rTM'd
[07 Jan/14:44] <CountMech> who knows about "msconfig"?
[07 Jan/14:44] <CJ^> most of us...
[07 Jan/14:44] <CJ^> whats up?
[07 Jan/14:45] <Azmodan> Jakeofall, still here
[07 Jan/14:45] <Azmodan> hehehehe
[07 Jan/14:46] <CountMech> under "Advanced" , whats that last check box all about?
[07 Jan/14:47] <LosGuy> some old pentium chips had a bug
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[07 Jan/14:47] <CountMech> oh
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[07 Jan/14:47] <DancingBe>  hey all
[07 Jan/14:47] <DancingBe> I have a simple question can someone help me?
[07 Jan/14:47] <LosGuy> dunno till we hear it
[07 Jan/14:48] <Azmodan> we can only try
[07 Jan/14:48] <CountMech> only try
[07 Jan/14:48] <DancingBe> from my understanding: win2k (I'm currently using win98) has 3 versions (primary versions): professional, server, and advanced server right?
[07 Jan/14:49] <CJ^> 4 versions
[07 Jan/14:49] <CJ^> Data Center being the Last
[07 Jan/14:49] <DancingBe> what am I missing?
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[07 Jan/14:49] <CJ^> Data Center may actually ship later
[07 Jan/14:49] <DancingBe> cj, I also hear something obscure called "corporate version" is that the same as dataccenter version?
[07 Jan/14:50] <CJ^> might be
[07 Jan/14:50] <CJ^> Data Center is the actual Replacement for E-Prise
[07 Jan/14:50] <DancingBe> so, what's so special about the dcenter version u talked about?
[07 Jan/14:50] <Azmodan> unless you mean corporate preview version
[07 Jan/14:50] <DancingBe> ahh I see, maybe Azmo
[07 Jan/14:50] <CJ^> might just be
[07 Jan/14:50] <CJ^> DTC is E-Prise to extreme
[07 Jan/14:51] <CJ^> 36+ proc support
[07 Jan/14:51] <CJ^> 4gig + memory support..
[07 Jan/14:51] <CJ^> mostly for very large systems...
[07 Jan/14:51] <DancingBe> Highest version (with most features for a 56k person) appropriate for avg joe schmo is server version right?
[07 Jan/14:51] <CJ^> Like high end alphas
[07 Jan/14:51] <CJ^> well Dancing  are you a Win NT user?
[07 Jan/14:52] <DancingBe> yea, I run IIS at my school
[07 Jan/14:52] <DancingBe> 4.0
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[07 Jan/14:52] <CJ^> well.. Pro=Wks
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[07 Jan/14:52] <CJ^> Srv=Srv NT4
[07 Jan/14:52] <CJ^> and so on
[07 Jan/14:52] <nsonx> What is the best proxy firewall software for Win98?
[07 Jan/14:52] <DancingBe> I don't need adv server, for I hear only nice
[07 Jan/14:52] <DancingBe> nsonx, I hear it's winroute
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[07 Jan/14:53] <LosGuy> winroute IS nice
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[07 Jan/14:53] <DancingBe> I don't need adv server, for I hear only nice thing aboutit is supports more clients and shared memory
[07 Jan/14:53] <CJ^> Dacing...  with srv or advc srv.. you need to look at the system itself...
[07 Jan/14:53] <nsonx> thanx guys   have a url?  winroute.com?
[07 Jan/14:53] <LosGuy> a tiny bit harder than sygate or ICS...but still easy
[07 Jan/14:53] <CJ^> if its 4 proc or below  Srv will work fine...
[07 Jan/14:53] <LosGuy> yeah nsonx that URL is right
[07 Jan/14:53] <DancingBe> cj, gotcha
[07 Jan/14:53] <nsonx> ok thanx  i'll go check it out
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[07 Jan/14:55] <artman> hiya Los and CJ
[07 Jan/14:55] <LosGuy> hi artman
[07 Jan/14:55] <CJ^> yo
[07 Jan/14:56] <nsonx> How come there is no Winroute4.0 for 1 user??
[07 Jan/14:56] <nsonx> minimum is 5 users  $199
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[07 Jan/14:57] <nsonx> lag
[07 Jan/14:57] <CJ^> nsonx... well.. cause no sense in having winroute a system when its primary purpose is to share connections...
[07 Jan/14:57] <Azmodan> nsonx, becuase its a piece of professional router software
[07 Jan/14:57] <CJ^> why only have 1 user?
[07 Jan/14:57] ! Ed`Away is known as Big`Ed
[07 Jan/14:58] <LosGuy> it works well as a firewall CJ^
[07 Jan/14:58] <LosGuy> so in that sense...
[07 Jan/14:58] <nsonx> i guess i don't understand proxy firewall... i thought it was just for Security
[07 Jan/14:58] <Big`Ed> back
[07 Jan/14:58] <LosGuy> nsonx you want conseal then
[07 Jan/14:58] <LosGuy> if your just one user
[07 Jan/14:59] <LosGuy> signal9.com
[07 Jan/14:59] <artman> wb, `Ed
[07 Jan/14:59] <Azmodan> www.signal9.com
[07 Jan/14:59] <nsonx> i just want extra security for a Win98 machine
[07 Jan/14:59] <Big`Ed> art!
[07 Jan/14:59] <Big`Ed> signal9
[07 Jan/14:59] <nsonx> alright LosGuy:)  thanx!:)
[07 Jan/14:59] <LosGuy> np
[07 Jan/14:59] <nsonx> i'll go check it out right now
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[07 Jan/15:02] * artman is fighting the flu......have been since Sunday....still can't run with the big dogs.......BBL.....bye all
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[07 Jan/15:03] <nsonx> thanx Losguy  nice price too  $49  i can deal with that
[07 Jan/15:03] <LosGuy> there should be a free one available... or will be soon
[07 Jan/15:03] <nsonx> oh  but not the latest version though   right?
[07 Jan/15:04] <LosGuy> dont even know who makes it :P
[07 Jan/15:04] <nsonx> heh  free is great  i'll check it out
[07 Jan/15:04] <LosGuy> just that it will available soon
[07 Jan/15:04] <LosGuy> and conseal is the best imho
[07 Jan/15:04] <nsonx> oh  another company  free proxy u mean?
[07 Jan/15:04] <LosGuy> not proxy
[07 Jan/15:04] <LosGuy> firewall
[07 Jan/15:05] <nsonx> oh
[07 Jan/15:05] <nsonx> i found this free firewall: http://www.fwtk.org/main.html
[07 Jan/15:05] <nsonx> what's the difference between firewall and proxy?
[07 Jan/15:06] <LosGuy> a proxy allows you to use the internet with more than one computer
[07 Jan/15:06] <nsonx> oh  ok
[07 Jan/15:07] <nsonx> so it's firewall that i'm looking for
[07 Jan/15:07] <LosGuy> yes
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[07 Jan/15:07] <LosGuy> conseal is still the best imho
[07 Jan/15:07] <nsonx> you think the free one is just as good as signal9?
[07 Jan/15:07] <nsonx> oh  ok
[07 Jan/15:07] <LosGuy> but there are others out there...ie black ice defender is very simple
[07 Jan/15:07] <CJ^> proxy ROUTES    
[07 Jan/15:07] <nsonx> url?
[07 Jan/15:07] <Big`Ed> so Princesaa - did you ask your questions again ?
[07 Jan/15:08] <nsonx> ahhhh black ice  my cousin saw in a magazine that one rated the best
[07 Jan/15:08] <LosGuy> http://www.networkice.com/
[07 Jan/15:08] <nsonx> i can't find black ice web site though
[07 Jan/15:08] <nsonx> ahhh  awesome
[07 Jan/15:08] <LosGuy> rated the best cuz it is very simple... but not the best imho
[07 Jan/15:08] <LosGuy> too simple
[07 Jan/15:08] <nsonx> thanx  i'll bookmark that right now
[07 Jan/15:08] <nsonx> oh
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[07 Jan/15:09] <LosGuy> and false alarms too often
[07 Jan/15:09] <LosGuy> ie if you try to do a tracert
[07 Jan/15:10] <nsonx> what's the url for conseal?
[07 Jan/15:10] <nsonx> oh  that's not good
[07 Jan/15:10] <nsonx> is conseal PC Firewall?
[07 Jan/15:10] <LosGuy> signal9.com
[07 Jan/15:11] <CJ^> thats the name
[07 Jan/15:11] <LosGuy> yes
[07 Jan/15:11] <CJ^> Conseal PC Firewall
[07 Jan/15:11] <CJ^> signal9.com
[07 Jan/15:11] <LosGuy> the blackice false alarms are not a problem
[07 Jan/15:11] <nsonx> ahhh  u know the url?  yea  i heard that's the best
[07 Jan/15:11] <LosGuy> and you dont even have to train it
[07 Jan/15:11] <nsonx> oh  signal is conseal  ??
[07 Jan/15:11] <LosGuy> but it does get annoying imho
[07 Jan/15:11] <nsonx> signal9
[07 Jan/15:13] <CJ^> yep
[07 Jan/15:13] <nsonx> ahhh  ok  thanx dude
[07 Jan/15:13] <LosGuy> yes
[07 Jan/15:13] <nsonx> i'll probably get that one
[07 Jan/15:14] <LosGuy> nsonx ...how computer savy are you?
[07 Jan/15:14] <nsonx> ok  thanx guys   take care
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[07 Jan/15:14] <LosGuy> conseal requires a little training..it is not hard..but you should ...doh
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[07 Jan/15:15] <Azmodan> and doh again
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[07 Jan/15:18] <Big`Ed> wb skippy
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[07 Jan/15:20] <j3ss1> bleh
[07 Jan/15:21] <Big`Ed> long time no see jake
[07 Jan/15:22] <Jakeofall> ya playing on efnet these
[07 Jan/15:22] <Jakeofall> days
[07 Jan/15:22] <Big`Ed> ahhh
[07 Jan/15:22] <Big`Ed> we arn't good enough for you!
[07 Jan/15:22] <CJ^> hmmm  getting mroe replies on my resume hehe...
[07 Jan/15:22] <CJ^> kewls..
[07 Jan/15:22] <Jakeofall> i wouldn't say that, just they pay mroe
[07 Jan/15:22] <Jakeofall> more
[07 Jan/15:23] <Big`Ed> hehe - my salary is top dollar for undernet
[07 Jan/15:23] <CJ^> 0$
[07 Jan/15:23] <Big`Ed> all active ops got a 5% bonus at christmas
[07 Jan/15:23] <Big`Ed> hows the job Jakeofall?
[07 Jan/15:24] <Jakeofall> nice, things are running pretty smooth with PRo/E 
[07 Jan/15:25] <Big`Ed> dog
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[07 Jan/15:41] <pyrokiwi> j therock
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[07 Jan/15:41] <Big`Ed> hehe
[07 Jan/15:41] <pyrokiwi> woops
[07 Jan/15:42] <pyrokiwi> i hate it wehn ya forget the /
[07 Jan/15:42] <mrgone> and the #
[07 Jan/15:42] <pyrokiwi> nah when u use /j u dont need the #
[07 Jan/15:43] <mrgone> k
[07 Jan/15:44] <pyrokiwi> didnt ya know that>
[07 Jan/15:44] <Azmodan> yeah but most kiwi's know the have to use the /
[07 Jan/15:44] <pyrokiwi> i made a MISTAKE duh
[07 Jan/15:45] <Big`Ed> 5 out of 7 at least
[07 Jan/15:45] * pyrokiwi wonders y he comes here
[07 Jan/15:45] <Azmodan> becuase the love the punishment?
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[07 Jan/15:45] <Azmodan> yo ree
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[07 Jan/15:45] <Big`Ed> hi ree
[07 Jan/15:45] <reebok> hey hey
[07 Jan/15:45] <pyrokiwi> hmmm maybe
[07 Jan/15:45] <LosGuy> howdy reebok
[07 Jan/15:45] <pyrokiwi> hiya reebok
[07 Jan/15:46] <reebok> we didn't start the fire...
[07 Jan/15:46] <Azmodan> but the house is burning
[07 Jan/15:46] <reebok> heheh
[07 Jan/15:46] <reebok> I've been looking for this song forever
[07 Jan/15:46] <Azmodan> sheesh
[07 Jan/15:46] <Azmodan> midnight oil
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[07 Jan/15:46] <Azmodan> it rocks
[07 Jan/15:46] <pyrokiwi> wat song?
[07 Jan/15:47] <reebok> we didn't start the fre
[07 Jan/15:47] <reebok> billy joel
[07 Jan/15:47] <Azmodan> hehehe, he already said that
[07 Jan/15:47] <Azmodan> ack
[07 Jan/15:47] <Azmodan> old version
[07 Jan/15:47] <Azmodan> you old timer!
[07 Jan/15:47] <reebok> I love the way he lists all those places
[07 Jan/15:47] <reebok> hehe
[07 Jan/15:47] <Big`Ed>  <<LósGüyPB&J>> v4.01  Digital Dalmation Dog Edition.
[07 Jan/15:47] <reebok> what's the new one?
[07 Jan/15:47] <pyrokiwi> hmmm ok just a similar named song that i didnt think he would listen 2
[07 Jan/15:47] <reebok> I prefer that one to the other
[07 Jan/15:47] <Azmodan> I'm pretty sure midnight oil did one
[07 Jan/15:47] <reebok> re 4.0
[07 Jan/15:48] <pyrokiwi> there is a song called the roof is on fire
[07 Jan/15:48] <reebok> the roof the roof the roof is one fire
[07 Jan/15:49] <pyrokiwi> yeh
[07 Jan/15:49] <pyrokiwi> that is kewl
[07 Jan/15:50] <reebok> no one on napster has that one az
[07 Jan/15:50] <pyrokiwi> let the mother ******* burn
[07 Jan/15:50] <reebok> yeah that's why I don't have it
[07 Jan/15:50] <Azmodan> reebok, I've got it on tape somewhere
[07 Jan/15:50] <reebok> hehe
[07 Jan/15:51] <pyrokiwi> it is kewl dont diss it
[07 Jan/15:51] <Azmodan> you do remember tape don't you?
[07 Jan/15:51] <reebok> ummm
[07 Jan/15:51] <reebok> what does it look like?
[07 Jan/15:51] <pyrokiwi> wat? huh?
[07 Jan/15:51] <Azmodan> hehe
[07 Jan/15:52] <mrgone> cassette? hmm havent seen one of those for awhile
[07 Jan/15:54] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm i luv using old pcs that use a cassete drive as a hdrive
[07 Jan/15:54] <pyrokiwi> no actually as a floppy drive i can remember which
[07 Jan/15:55] <reebok> pretty sleepy
[07 Jan/15:55] <reebok> gonna hit the sack
[07 Jan/15:55] <Big`Ed> its late for reebok time
[07 Jan/15:56] <reebok> later
[07 Jan/15:56] <pyrokiwi> u r slepy
[07 Jan/15:56] <Big`Ed> nite
[07 Jan/15:56] <pyrokiwi> sya
[07 Jan/15:56] <reebok> heheh
[07 Jan/15:56] <Azmodan> nite ree
[07 Jan/15:56] <LosGuy> nite ree
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[07 Jan/15:56] <pyrokiwi> lol
[07 Jan/15:59] <pyrokiwi> bbl
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[07 Jan/16:06] <rod_> mm hello
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[07 Jan/16:06] <Kawi> anyone here good with ever here an error something about cycle power on??? I got this message on my machine asking about it
[07 Jan/16:06] <rod_> maybe a stupid question
[07 Jan/16:07] <rod_> why when u buy a pc it comes with win98 , if winNt is better and Faster?
[07 Jan/16:07] <LosGuy> better?
[07 Jan/16:07] <Kawi> they must get a deal on bulck or something
[07 Jan/16:07] <LosGuy> depends on what you plan on using it for
[07 Jan/16:07] <Kawi> but it's not better to a new user
[07 Jan/16:07] <Kawi> win98 much more user friendly
[07 Jan/16:07] <LosGuy> if your gonna use it for a server then yeah... if you want to play games etc forget it
[07 Jan/16:08] <Kawi> so did anyone ever here that error on a labtop?? something about cycle power on?
[07 Jan/16:08] <Big`Ed> ???
[07 Jan/16:09] <Kawi> I don't know that's what I had on my answering maching when I came in someone call me and asked me if I know about that heh
[07 Jan/16:09] <Kawi> not sure what the hell there talking about
[07 Jan/16:10] <Kawi> I guess when the labtop boots up it saying that errer won't it dosen't even trought the post
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[07 Jan/16:10] <Kawi>  anyone have an idea.......
[07 Jan/16:11] * LosGuy cant even understand it
[07 Jan/16:11] <Kawi> hehe kawi either
[07 Jan/16:11] <Kawi> oh well tnx anyway
[07 Jan/16:11] <Kawi> see you all later
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[07 Jan/16:12] <Big`Ed> no cussing
[07 Jan/16:12] <Big`Ed> oops
[07 Jan/16:12] <LosGuy> sheez what ever he was on about... made no sense to me
[07 Jan/16:12] <Azmodan> yeah
[07 Jan/16:12] <Big`Ed> yea
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[07 Jan/16:38] <Raph2000> hello all.
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[07 Jan/16:38] <Big`Ed> hi
[07 Jan/16:38] <Raph2000> I'm having a trouble with Win98.. hehe
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[07 Jan/16:39] <Raph2000> I got a V C++ Runtime Error...
[07 Jan/16:39] <Big`Ed> win98 is giving it to you, or a program is?
[07 Jan/16:40] <Raph2000> a program...
[07 Jan/16:40] <Raph2000> I think I need to reinstall the C++ runtime library...do you know where I can get it ?
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[07 Jan/16:41] <LosQ3> Raph2000 what exact error?
[07 Jan/16:42] <LosQ3> and what program
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[07 Jan/16:42] <Raph2000> it says "Runtime Error : program c:\.....\myprogram.exe abnomal termination"
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[07 Jan/16:43] <Raph2000> the WIndows bar title says "Visual C++ Runtime Library"
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[07 Jan/16:43] <LosQ3> myprogram.exe   <----what IS that
[07 Jan/16:43] <Raph2000> the program is an encoder Mpeg from Panasoci
[07 Jan/16:43] <Raph2000> PWIIMPEGE.EXE
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[07 Jan/16:44] <Raph2000> any Idea what to do ?
[07 Jan/16:45] <LosQ3> could try running SFC
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[07 Jan/16:45] <Raph2000> what is SFC ?
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[07 Jan/16:45] <LosQ3> start / run type SFC and run that
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[07 Jan/16:46] <Big`Ed> system file checker
[07 Jan/16:46] <Big`Ed> wb
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[07 Jan/16:46] <Raph2000> how do I do that ?
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[07 Jan/16:46] <LosQ3> and then look at your log to see if you have any MSFC files that have been replaced
[07 Jan/16:46] <LosQ3> by older versions
[07 Jan/16:47] <Raph2000> what is command name ?
[07 Jan/16:47] <LosQ3> [19:45] <LosQ3> start / run type SFC and run that
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[07 Jan/16:49] <Raph2000> ok thanks...I'm trying right now
[07 Jan/16:51] <Raph2000> it did not find a file....
[07 Jan/16:51] <Raph2000> I've read somewhere that VBRUN60.EXE might fix the problem...
[07 Jan/16:51] <CJ^> are you in 98?
[07 Jan/16:52] <Raph2000> yes win98
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[07 Jan/16:52] <CJ^> vbrun6.0 isnt needed then
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[07 Jan/16:52] <CJ^> those old problems used to happen in 95
[07 Jan/16:52] <Raph2000> so what is it ?
[07 Jan/16:52] <Raph2000> why is a C++ problem ?
[07 Jan/16:53] <Hippster> Have you guys ever tryed the operating system BeOS?
[07 Jan/16:53] <CJ^> i have Hippster
[07 Jan/16:53] <CJ^> well BeOS 4
[07 Jan/16:53] <Hippster> did you like it?
[07 Jan/16:53] <CJ^> Raph  what app is giving you this issue?
[07 Jan/16:53] <CJ^> it was ok Hippster...
[07 Jan/16:54] <Raph2000> Panasonic Encoder MPEG1
[07 Jan/16:54] <CJ^> but it not a consumer OS IMHO...
[07 Jan/16:54] <Raph2000> it was working great today
[07 Jan/16:54] <Hippster> I just installed it
[07 Jan/16:54] <Raph2000> and now nothing...I uninst reinst...but nothing 
[07 Jan/16:54] <Hippster> Pretty good.  
[07 Jan/16:54] <CJ^> Hippster is supposeedly great for Multimedia...
[07 Jan/16:55] <CJ^> but not much else really...
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[07 Jan/16:55] <CJ^> Raph  then the only thing i cna think of is what Los suggested....
[07 Jan/16:56] <Raph2000> the SFC ?
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[07 Jan/16:56] <CJ^> yeap
[07 Jan/16:56] <Raph2000> I tried...but it told me nothing
[07 Jan/16:56] <CJ^> well check Panasonics site for info..
[07 Jan/16:56] <CJ^> or a patch....
[07 Jan/16:56] <LosQ3> did you read the log of what was changed?
[07 Jan/16:57] <Raph2000> hum...it was the first time that I executed SFC...
[07 Jan/16:57] <LosQ3> or files that were added to the verification table since this was your first time running it
[07 Jan/16:57] <Raph2000> so where should I look for the table ?
[07 Jan/16:57] <LosQ3> choose settings and then view log
[07 Jan/16:58] <Raph2000> ok I have lot of files..now what should I look for ?
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[07 Jan/17:00] <LosQ3> gee I already typed it once for you (part of it twice)
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[07 Jan/17:01] <Raph2000> ok..sorry
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[07 Jan/17:01] <Raph2000> yes
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[07 Jan/17:03] <HornetC> I have been getting a lot of illegal operation by iexplorer and explorer, any idea what is the cause?
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[07 Jan/17:03] <karina_30> how stop nukes in irc with windows 98 ?
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[07 Jan/17:07] <Raph2000> nothing changed... ;-(
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[07 Jan/17:15] <Dimetera> thnx
[07 Jan/17:15] <Big`Ed> hi
[07 Jan/17:16] <Dimetera> how ya doin
[07 Jan/17:16] <Big`Ed> fine - you?
[07 Jan/17:16] <Dimetera> im ok
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[07 Jan/17:18] <Big`Ed> look - out of the sky - its a GUY
[07 Jan/17:19] <LosGuy> that would be ME
[07 Jan/17:21] <Cat`Woman> `op proteus
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[07 Jan/17:23] <LosGuy> hi Cat
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[07 Jan/17:30] <Cat`Woman> hi los
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[07 Jan/17:35] <Big`Ed> wb
[07 Jan/17:36] <pyrokiwi> thanx
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[07 Jan/17:50] <trev1246> Does anyone here have a Propad6 game controller?
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[07 Jan/17:52] <CJ^> not i trev... 
[07 Jan/17:53] <CJ^> why  got a problem with it?
[07 Jan/17:53] <Big`Ed> not i
[07 Jan/17:53] <trev1246> Hmmm mine is being mean...only up and left work on the arrow pad part.
[07 Jan/17:53] <CJ^> new?
[07 Jan/17:53] <trev1246> Yes
[07 Jan/17:54] <CJ^> well..  have you tried new drivers?
[07 Jan/17:54] <trev1246> I downloaded one from the site...it worked the same
[07 Jan/17:54] <CJ^> then i may suggest bringing the pad back and exchanging it...
[07 Jan/17:55] <CJ^> it may just be plain BAD
[07 Jan/17:56] <trev1246> Yeah I will do that tomorrow....I have never owned a game controller before.
[07 Jan/17:56] <trev1246> Any suggestions on which to buy?
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[07 Jan/17:57] <Big`Ed> time for me to split gang
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[07 Jan/17:57] <CJ^> trev.. might look at Logitech or CH
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[07 Jan/17:58] <trev1246> What is CH?
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[07 Jan/17:58] <CJ^>  CH makes joysticks and other various game controllers..
[07 Jan/17:58] <CJ^> note:  soem game controllers req a sound card ort game controller card that is digital capable..
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[07 Jan/17:59] <trev1246> I just need a simple one...kinda like a super nintento controller..I am using it with ROMs
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[07 Jan/17:59] <CJ^> and it not wokring with teh ROMs?
[07 Jan/17:59] <CJ^> if thats the case  HA
[07 Jan/17:59] <CJ^> what did ya expect...
[07 Jan/17:59] <CJ^> does it work with the windows calibration?
[07 Jan/17:59] <trev1246> Well it also doesn't work in the calibration
[07 Jan/18:00] <CJ^> well..  then replace it..
[07 Jan/18:00] <CJ^> but  ROM's.. hmm
[07 Jan/18:00] <CJ^> well i dont touch em....
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[07 Jan/18:01] <trev1246> I didn't either til last night..I found some of my favorite games...I gave them all away...playing with a keyboard sucks..so I decided to try a controller.
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[07 Jan/18:06] <Los`Guy> www.idsoftware.com has to be the SLOWEST site going
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[07 Jan/18:07] <Spoodge> can someone help me with a problem im having
[07 Jan/18:07] <CJ^> hehe  is it?
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[07 Jan/18:07] <Los`Guy> dunno tippet what is the problem?
[07 Jan/18:07] <Los`Guy> doh I mean Spoodge
[07 Jan/18:07] <Spoodge> when i start my computer it says runtime error r6001 and it also says null pointer assignment
[07 Jan/18:08] <Spoodge> and it wont let me use more than 16 colors
[07 Jan/18:08] <Los`Guy> ahh
[07 Jan/18:08] <Los`Guy> what does control panel / system say?
[07 Jan/18:08] <Los`Guy> any conflicts there?
[07 Jan/18:09] <Spoodge> 16 colors and when i switch and restart it goes right back to 16 colors
[07 Jan/18:09] <Spoodge> i didnt see no conflicts anywhere when i was lookin through
[07 Jan/18:09] <CJ^> wrong driver perhaps?
[07 Jan/18:09] <Spoodge> i have all these files that r empty and i cant delete them either
[07 Jan/18:09] <Spoodge> this one file i delete keeps coming back
[07 Jan/18:09] <Los`Guy> huh?
[07 Jan/18:10] <Spoodge> its called windoom
[07 Jan/18:10] <Spoodge> i think thats the problem
[07 Jan/18:10] <Spoodge> but i dont know
[07 Jan/18:10] <Los`Guy> a trojan?
[07 Jan/18:10] <CJ^> Spoodge  what video card do you have?
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[07 Jan/18:10] <Spoodge> i have no idea
[07 Jan/18:10] <Spoodge> its my moms comp
[07 Jan/18:11] <CJ^> then  how do ya knwo yer using the correct video driver?
[07 Jan/18:11] <Spoodge> i think its SIS or something
[07 Jan/18:11] <Spoodge> it worked fine
[07 Jan/18:11] <Spoodge> till i found this file
[07 Jan/18:11] <Spoodge> and it cause all the problems
[07 Jan/18:11] <Los`Guy> what file?
[07 Jan/18:11] <Spoodge> windoom
[07 Jan/18:11] <Spoodge> i ran a scan for viruses and it said none were found
[07 Jan/18:12] <Los`Guy> hmm .... 
[07 Jan/18:12] <Los`Guy> what scanner did you use?
[07 Jan/18:12] <Spoodge> norton anitvirus
[07 Jan/18:12] <Los`Guy> you should read this http://x37.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=545847147&CONTEXT=947221846.795148326&hitnum=22
[07 Jan/18:12] <Spoodge> what is it
[07 Jan/18:12] <CJ^> heh
[07 Jan/18:13] <CJ^> beat me to it los
[07 Jan/18:13] <Los`Guy> hehe
[07 Jan/18:13] <tippet> Spoodge were you using Windoom 1.11 ?
[07 Jan/18:14] <Spoodge> i wasnt using it
[07 Jan/18:14] <Los`Guy> and this Spoodge http://x37.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=545860019&search=thread&CONTEXT=947221964.796459015&HIT_CONTEXT=947221846.795148326&HIT_NUM=22&hitnum=1
[07 Jan/18:14] <Spoodge> i had auto accept on by accident and i think someone sent it to me
[07 Jan/18:15] <Spoodge> how do i get rid of it
[07 Jan/18:15] <Spoodge> the first page u gave me was what happens
[07 Jan/18:15] <Spoodge> thats what i have
[07 Jan/18:15] <Spoodge> i think
[07 Jan/18:15] <Spoodge> they r the problems
[07 Jan/18:15] <Los`Guy> and have you read the second page?
[07 Jan/18:16] <Spoodge> not yet
[07 Jan/18:16] <Spoodge> hold on
[07 Jan/18:16] <Los`Guy> actually I think I may have seen a cleaner for this somewhere
[07 Jan/18:17] <Los`Guy> hmm more info http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/security/trojan.html
[07 Jan/18:17] <Spoodge> ok
[07 Jan/18:19] <Los`Guy> (you will see it on that page just under dmsetup
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[07 Jan/18:20] <Los`Guy> in fact I wonder if 'the cleaner' can clean it
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[07 Jan/18:21] <Spoodge> is it that MSchv32.exe file
[07 Jan/18:21] * Los`Guy wonders how your AV didnt catch this
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[07 Jan/18:22] <Spoodge> at the bottom of the page under all the dmsetups
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[07 Jan/18:22] <Spoodge> i didnt have norton at the time
[07 Jan/18:22] <Spoodge> but even when i got it and ran a scan it didnt find it
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[07 Jan/18:23] <Spoodge> is this MSchv32.exe file what i need
[07 Jan/18:23] <Spoodge> or need to dl
[07 Jan/18:24] <Spoodge> ?
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[07 Jan/18:25] <Spoodge> is that what i need or not
[07 Jan/18:26] <Los`Guy> http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/security/dm5clean2b.bat   this one is it I belive
[07 Jan/18:26] <Los`Guy> the dmsetup variant 5
[07 Jan/18:27] <Spoodge> can i download this somewhere
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[07 Jan/18:28] <Tommy84> How can I see what is using which IRQs?
[07 Jan/18:28] <Los`Guy> yeah just save it as a batch file (.bat)
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[07 Jan/18:28] <Los`Guy> Tommy84 run msinfo32
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[07 Jan/18:28] <Los`Guy> under hardware on the first page select IRQs
[07 Jan/18:29] <tippet> <tippet> had a strange one this morning -- using IE logged on to my trading room -- puter locked up -- had to restart -- screen went black & stayed black
[07 Jan/18:29] <tippet> <tippet> checked monitor - it's ok
[07 Jan/18:29] <tippet> <tippet> hooked up spare monitor - plug & play did its thing - monitor worked
[07 Jan/18:29] <tippet> <tippet> don't have a clue as to what happened -- any ideas?
[07 Jan/18:29] <Spoodge> how do i save it as a batch file
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[07 Jan/18:29] <Spoodge> im on the page u told me to go
[07 Jan/18:30] <Spoodge> now what exactly do i need to do to save it as a batch file
[07 Jan/18:30] <Los`Guy> Spoodge just R click the link and choose save as or copy the whole thing and paste it into a .txt file
[07 Jan/18:30] <Los`Guy> then rename the txt file to .bat
[07 Jan/18:31] <Tommy84> Thanx!
[07 Jan/18:31] <Los`Guy> np Tommy84
[07 Jan/18:32] <Azmodan> Name:    thyme.epix.net
[07 Jan/18:32] <Azmodan> Address:  199.224.86.36
[07 Jan/18:32] <Azmodan> doh
[07 Jan/18:34] <Spoodge> i saved it then clicked on the icon and it had this little window do some stuff is that all i needed to do
[07 Jan/18:35] <Spoodge> how do i know if it worked or not
[07 Jan/18:36] <Spoodge> ?
[07 Jan/18:36] <Los`Guy> well for one all those folders should be gone
[07 Jan/18:36] <Los`Guy> and should not reappear after you reboot
[07 Jan/18:37] <Spoodge> do i have to reboot first
[07 Jan/18:37] <Spoodge> i think i messed up somewhere cause they r still there
[07 Jan/18:37] <Los`Guy> doh
[07 Jan/18:38] <Spoodge> ok i was on teh page and went to save as
[07 Jan/18:38] <Spoodge> and it gave me a little icon
[07 Jan/18:38] <Spoodge> i clicked the icon
[07 Jan/18:38] <Spoodge> it did some stuff
[07 Jan/18:38] <Spoodge> but i dont think it did what it should have or i missed a step somewhere
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[07 Jan/18:39] <Los`Guy> Spoodge put that file in the root of C:
[07 Jan/18:39] <Spoodge> im not real good with computer stuff like this im sorry if im causeing u annoyance
[07 Jan/18:39] <Los`Guy> reboot to dos and run it again
[07 Jan/18:39] <Spoodge> i have no clue how to do none of what u just said
[07 Jan/18:40] <Los`Guy> Spoodge do this
[07 Jan/18:40] <Spoodge> ok
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[07 Jan/18:40] <Los`Guy> sheez just a second
[07 Jan/18:40] <Spoodge> ok
[07 Jan/18:41] <Los`Guy> `op
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[07 Jan/18:41] <Spoodge> k
[07 Jan/18:42] <tippet> anyone have any ideas regarding my blank screen problem?
[07 Jan/18:43] <Los`Guy> sheez tippet my first guess would have been monitor
[07 Jan/18:43] <Los`Guy> and would have to work backwards from there
[07 Jan/18:43] <Spoodge> this wont delete anything else from my comp will it 
[07 Jan/18:43] <Los`Guy> including loose memory
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[07 Jan/18:43] <Los`Guy> Spoodge open it in note pad
[07 Jan/18:43] <Los`Guy> make sure it is what you want
[07 Jan/18:43] <Los`Guy> or loose vid card
[07 Jan/18:43] <Los`Guy> or bad cable / vid card 
[07 Jan/18:44] <Los`Guy> Spoodge is the system posting?
[07 Jan/18:44] <tippet> yeah checked all of the above Los
[07 Jan/18:45] <Los`Guy> tippet does the system post? do you get beeps on turning it on? does the HD look like it is loading the OS?
[07 Jan/18:45] <cwoods> maybe bios settings for bus speed 
[07 Jan/18:45] <Spoodge> i clicked on the zip file
[07 Jan/18:45] <Spoodge> it saved it as a little icon
[07 Jan/18:45] <Spoodge> should i click the icon it saved as
[07 Jan/18:46] <tippet> Los on restart the hd did its thing - the usual you would expect as scandisk ran
[07 Jan/18:46] <Los`Guy> Spoodge you need to extract the .zip file
[07 Jan/18:46] <tippet> all normal
[07 Jan/18:46] <Los`Guy> and then click on it
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[07 Jan/18:47] <Los`Guy> hmm odd tippet... cant really say
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[07 Jan/18:47] <Los`Guy> but you checked the monitor on another system and it worked .... dunn
[07 Jan/18:47] <Los`Guy> dunno that is
[07 Jan/18:47] <tippet> yep
[07 Jan/18:47] <cwoods> tippet, can you get the bios screen to display on bootup?
[07 Jan/18:47] <tippet> nope
[07 Jan/18:48] <tippet> total blank screen
[07 Jan/18:48] <cwoods> ouch....
[07 Jan/18:48] <tippet> until I switched to another monitor and did a restart
[07 Jan/18:48] <cwoods> and (as Los'Guy said) no abnormal post codes....
[07 Jan/18:48] <Spoodge> its deleteing stuff now
[07 Jan/18:49] <tippet> couldn't have seen any codes if they were there cwoods
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[07 Jan/18:49] <Los`Guy> ok Spoodge
[07 Jan/18:49] <tippet> no abnormal beeps
[07 Jan/18:49] <Spoodge> how long does this take
[07 Jan/18:49] <tippet> wierd damned deal
[07 Jan/18:49] <Los`Guy> Spoodge it may tak a while
[07 Jan/18:50] <Spoodge> ok
[07 Jan/18:50] <cwoods> tippet <- does the monitor work on another system?
[07 Jan/18:50] <tippet> yep
[07 Jan/18:50] <Spoodge> dude if this works i m forever greatful 
[07 Jan/18:50] <cwoods> WEIRD...
[07 Jan/18:50] <tippet> LOL
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[07 Jan/18:51] <Los`Guy> it should Spoodge... but thank they guy that wrote the batch file
[07 Jan/18:51] <tippet> I'd have been up the creek if not for the spare monitor
[07 Jan/18:51] <cwoods> I had a Viewsonic that did that, found out it had a crack on the mb, could 'wiggle' it and it would come back
[07 Jan/18:51] <Spoodge> ill thank both of u the guy who wrote it and u guys for knowing what was wrong with it
[07 Jan/18:52] <Los`Guy> wait tippet... the other monitor works?
[07 Jan/18:52] <tippet> yes
[07 Jan/18:52] <Los`Guy> then ya gotta suspect the montior
[07 Jan/18:52] <cwoods> yup, a wire or connection going south....
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[07 Jan/18:53] <Spoodge> ok its completed
[07 Jan/18:53] <Los`Guy> kewl
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[07 Jan/18:53] <Spoodge> now it says something about mirc cleanup should i clikc continue to that too
[07 Jan/18:53] <Los`Guy> `op LosGuy
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[07 Jan/18:53] <tippet> well, the monitor that gave me the problem is up and running on my other machine
[07 Jan/18:54] <Spoodge> should i click continue on everything it tells me too
[07 Jan/18:54] <Los`Guy> Spoodge that program messes up mIRC
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[07 Jan/18:54] <Los`Guy> you should let it wipe it out and reinstall mIRC
[07 Jan/18:54] <Los`Guy> you should not be running it while you do this also
[07 Jan/18:54] <Spoodge> is this all the rest of what i need to know
[07 Jan/18:55] <Spoodge> so i can shut down mirc
[07 Jan/18:55] <tippet> ok guy - guess I'll just chalk it up to another ms mystery   and hope it doesn't repeat
[07 Jan/18:55] <Los`Guy> yes but that batch file will wipe it out I belive
[07 Jan/18:55] <tippet> thanks for your efforts
[07 Jan/18:55] <Los`Guy> hehe dunno what to say Tribble
[07 Jan/18:55] <Los`Guy> doh tippet
[07 Jan/18:55] <Spoodge> ok
[07 Jan/18:55] <tippet> okey dokey   later
[07 Jan/18:56] <cwoods> see'ya tippet
[07 Jan/18:56] <Spoodge> so i lose everything on mirc than
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[07 Jan/18:56] <Spoodge> whatever is saved in its files
[07 Jan/18:56] <Los`Guy> i belive...let me look at that batch file
[07 Jan/18:56] <Spoodge> k
[07 Jan/18:56] <Spoodge> will it delete files i have downloaded from mirc like pics and such
[07 Jan/18:57] <Los`Guy> no it is just gonna rename your .ini files in mIRC
[07 Jan/18:57] <Spoodge> it wont delete it
[07 Jan/18:57] <Los`Guy> you will only loose some things and you dont even need to shut it down
[07 Jan/18:57] <Spoodge> so ill still have mirc i just have to reinstall
[07 Jan/18:57] <cwoods> on ATAPI devices (CDROMS etc) do you or not set them up in the bios under HD detection?
[07 Jan/18:57] <Los`Guy> only if you use a script Spoodge
[07 Jan/18:58] <Los`Guy> cwoods all bios I have ever seen will not detect them as HD
[07 Jan/18:58] <Los`Guy> but should detect them on boot up
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[07 Jan/18:58] <Los`Guy> so you dont have to set them up in bios
[07 Jan/18:59] <cwoods> when I set the bios to auto, both the IDE CDROM and IDE CDRW are found, and also as ATAPI devices?  
[07 Jan/18:59] <Spoodge> do i have to restart my comp at all now
[07 Jan/18:59] <Spoodge> its all done its finished
[07 Jan/18:59] <Spoodge> no more files
[07 Jan/18:59] <cwoods> so, I need to set those IDE ports to NONE...
[07 Jan/18:59] <Los`Guy> no Spoodge you shouldnt have to..but I would
[07 Jan/19:00] <Spoodge> will my colors work again
[07 Jan/19:00] <cwoods> good info Los'Guy but then, you've always had good answers to my dumb questions
[07 Jan/19:01] <Los`Guy> :P
[07 Jan/19:01] <Los`Guy> cwoods I have never seen a cdrom detected in bios as in the HD autodetect
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[07 Jan/19:01] <Los`Guy> as far as I know anyway
[07 Jan/19:01] <Spoodge> will it allow me to change my colors now back to anything besides 16 colors
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[07 Jan/19:02] <DJMod> how do you disable easystart for the cd?
[07 Jan/19:02] <Los`Guy> easystart? you mean autorun?
[07 Jan/19:02] <DJMod> heh
[07 Jan/19:02] <DJMod> whateva
[07 Jan/19:02] <cwoods> if set to auto, they aren't added in the bios hd detect but after bootup, then again in pnp detection (I think)...
[07 Jan/19:02] <DJMod> yeah
[07 Jan/19:02] <DJMod> autorun
[07 Jan/19:02] <Los`Guy> control panel / system find your cdrom
[07 Jan/19:02] <Los`Guy> choose properties
[07 Jan/19:03] <DJMod> auto insert notification?
[07 Jan/19:03] <Los`Guy> under the settings tab
[07 Jan/19:03] <Los`Guy> yes
[07 Jan/19:03] <Los`Guy> that is is
[07 Jan/19:03] <DJMod> ahhh ok
[07 Jan/19:03] <DJMod> thanks alot
[07 Jan/19:03] <Los`Guy> np
[07 Jan/19:03] <Spoodge> thanks all i really appreciate the help and ur patience with me
[07 Jan/19:03] <Spoodge> take care
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[07 Jan/19:03] <Los`Guy> np Spoodge
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[07 Jan/19:03] <Los`Guy> you too
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[07 Jan/19:05] <cwoods> LosGuy <-> Los'Guy, brothers?
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[07 Jan/19:08] <Los`Guy> both me
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[07 Jan/19:08] <cwoods> cool
[07 Jan/19:08] <Los`Guy> just was gonna install something on this computer
[07 Jan/19:08] <Los`Guy> so I joined from other
[07 Jan/19:08] <cwoods> your alter ego eh.... lol
[07 Jan/19:08] <Los`Guy> heh yeah
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[07 Jan/19:13] <Spoodge> hey im back again
[07 Jan/19:13] <Spoodge> hehe
[07 Jan/19:13] <Spoodge> ok
[07 Jan/19:13] <Spoodge> i got another one for u
[07 Jan/19:13] <cwoods> wb spoodge
[07 Jan/19:13] <Spoodge> my colors still wont go to anything besides 16 colors
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[07 Jan/19:14] <M3rlin> anyone here know of a program that will let me access a NTFS drive from win98
[07 Jan/19:15] <Los`Guy> M3rlin I have seen one recently M3rlin
[07 Jan/19:15] <M3rlin> yea
[07 Jan/19:15] <M3rlin> where
[07 Jan/19:15] <Los`Guy> dont remmember M3rlin gimme a couple and I will look
[07 Jan/19:15] <M3rlin> NM
[07 Jan/19:15] <cwoods> Spoodge <- video drivers something other than vga?
[07 Jan/19:15] <Azmodan> there is
[07 Jan/19:15] <Azmodan> the name escapes me though
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[07 Jan/19:15] <M3rlin> i just realized i made a mistake
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[07 Jan/19:16] <musical5> may I ask a question??
[07 Jan/19:16] <Los`Guy> Spoodge uninstall your vid card and reinstall it 
[07 Jan/19:16] <cwoods> yep
[07 Jan/19:16] <M3rlin> I forgot that win i put my 98 drive into my nt system i could just copy the files i need off the ntfs drive straight into the win98 drive
[07 Jan/19:16] <musical5> what is a windows protection error at startup mean?
[07 Jan/19:16] <M3rlin> sorry to bother you all
[07 Jan/19:17] * M3rlin slaps himself on the forehead
[07 Jan/19:17] <M3rlin> hehehehe
[07 Jan/19:17] <musical5> anyone?
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[07 Jan/19:17] <Los`Guy> hehe
[07 Jan/19:17] <Los`Guy> musical5 ... hang on
[07 Jan/19:17] <musical5> ok
[07 Jan/19:17] <musical5> brb
[07 Jan/19:18] <Spoodge> how do i do that
[07 Jan/19:19] <cwoods> Spoodge <- do you have your video cards install disk(s)?
[07 Jan/19:19] <musical5> Im back
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[07 Jan/19:19] <musical5> Ill wait
[07 Jan/19:20] <screew> salut
[07 Jan/19:20] <Spoodge> i have a disk with a bunch of drivers on but they arent teh same ones that i have on my comp now and i have no clue what drivers on the disk are what
[07 Jan/19:20] <cwoods> musical5 <- anything loading in your config.sys or autoexec.bat that could conflict with windows?
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[07 Jan/19:20] <musical5> cwoods:Im not sure
[07 Jan/19:20] <Los`Guy> exactly
[07 Jan/19:21] <musical5> how can I check?
[07 Jan/19:21] <cwoods> Spoodge <- you can probably download the latest video drivers for your card from the web
[07 Jan/19:21] <Los`Guy> windrivers.com Spoodge
[07 Jan/19:21] <Los`Guy> musical5 open them in note pad Mandy
[07 Jan/19:21] <Los`Guy> doh musical5
[07 Jan/19:21] <Spoodge> dude u read my mind
[07 Jan/19:21] <musical5> ok
[07 Jan/19:21] <cwoods> yep
[07 Jan/19:21] <Spoodge> that was the next question i was gonna ask 
[07 Jan/19:21] <Spoodge> thanks
[07 Jan/19:21] <Spoodge> so i just download and install right
[07 Jan/19:21] <musical5> um what will I be looking for?
[07 Jan/19:22] <cwoods> Spoodge <- make sure the windows default video drivers are set to VGA, then (re)install your drivers
[07 Jan/19:22] <Spoodge> how and where do i do that
[07 Jan/19:22] <Los`Guy> well musical5 ...in win98, a clean install nothing will be loading from there
[07 Jan/19:23] <Los`Guy> when did this problem start musical5? 
[07 Jan/19:23] <Los`Guy> and what changed?
[07 Jan/19:23] <musical5> well, Im not sure I was working on a large cakewalk audio file and it locked up
[07 Jan/19:23] <musical5> ever since the  its been crazy
[07 Jan/19:24] <musical5> locking up during defrag scandick etc
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[07 Jan/19:24] <Los`Guy> have you run scandisk and SFC?
[07 Jan/19:24] <AdamDork> :)
[07 Jan/19:24] <Los`Guy> have heard of problems with cakewalk 
[07 Jan/19:24] <musical5> yes
[07 Jan/19:24] <musical5> I got scandisk and defrag to run
[07 Jan/19:24] <musical5> with my dma check box unchecked
[07 Jan/19:24] <Los`Guy> SFC?
[07 Jan/19:24] <Los`Guy> oh
[07 Jan/19:24] <musical5> ya what is that?
[07 Jan/19:24] <musical5> SFC?
[07 Jan/19:24] <Los`Guy> start / run type SFC
[07 Jan/19:25] <musical5> ok
[07 Jan/19:25] <Los`Guy> but DMA can cause these problems too if your system doesnt work with it
[07 Jan/19:25] <Los`Guy> system file checker
[07 Jan/19:25] <AdamDork> <---seems to miss file  regovr32.exe....whats might that be?
[07 Jan/19:25] <cwoods> Spoodge <- right click on your desktop, properties, settings, advanced, adapter, it will tell you what card/driver is installed
[07 Jan/19:25] <musical5> oh Its been fine for almost a year
[07 Jan/19:25] <musical5> till 2 days ago
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[07 Jan/19:25] <Los`Guy> a typo AdamDork ... should be regSvr32.exe
[07 Jan/19:26] <AdamDork> sweet
[07 Jan/19:26] <musical5> Im on my wifes pc Ill go check mine out
[07 Jan/19:26] <musical5> brb
[07 Jan/19:26] <musical5> thx a lot
[07 Jan/19:26] <AdamDork> no wonder i cant fint it
[07 Jan/19:26] <Los`Guy> :P
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[07 Jan/19:27] <Spoodge> i have SiS 5597/5598 is the driver i have
[07 Jan/19:27] <cwoods> Spoodge <- is that the card?
[07 Jan/19:28] <Spoodge> how do i know what type of card it is thats just what it says under adapter
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[07 Jan/19:28] <NeonGlow> hey
[07 Jan/19:28] <NeonGlow> ne1 know how to de-activate auto-disconnect in win98?
[07 Jan/19:29] <cwoods> Spoodge <- far as I know, you have to know what kind of video card you've got to install the correct drivers.. i dunno, anyone
[07 Jan/19:29] <AdamDork> i dont have it on my win 98 cd and its an original...im runnin quake and i seem to get blue screens as the games about to start...my direct draw is dead i think i took that off worked 4 a game or two...and after the blue screen my desk top view is zoomed into the top left side of my desk top...looks normal other than i cant see anything other than my corner desktop...sounde familure?
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[07 Jan/19:31] <AdamDork> ?
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[07 Jan/19:32] <cwoods> Spooge <- under display properties, colors, do you have the option for High Color (16 bit)?
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[07 Jan/19:32] <Los`Guy> AdamDork I had a similar problem ..but it turned out that my memory was loose 
[07 Jan/19:33] <AdamDork> ?
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[07 Jan/19:33] <Spoodge> yes i do
[07 Jan/19:33] <AdamDork> mmm
[07 Jan/19:33] <Spoodge> it wont let me change
[07 Jan/19:33] <AdamDork> it zoomed into the corner?
[07 Jan/19:33] <Azmodan> AdamDork, he means open your case and make sure the memory is firmly in its socket (with the power off of course)
[07 Jan/19:33] <Spoodge> when i restart it goes back to 16 colors
[07 Jan/19:33] <Los`Guy> yeah cuz it was set at a low res
[07 Jan/19:33] <AdamDork> i reinstalled win and my drivers 4 my video card
[07 Jan/19:33] <Los`Guy> I just changed the res
[07 Jan/19:33] <AdamDork> ive had that
[07 Jan/19:33] <AdamDork> and it starts in safe mode too
[07 Jan/19:33] <AdamDork> i hates that
[07 Jan/19:34] <AdamDork> and you cant change to 32bit color in safe
[07 Jan/19:34] <cwoods> Spoodge <- ah, then under advanced, monitor, what does it say.
[07 Jan/19:35] <Los`Guy> AdamDork install tweakUI so you dont have to boot to safe mode
[07 Jan/19:35] <AdamDork> mmm
[07 Jan/19:35] <Los`Guy> tell it to show the boot menu
[07 Jan/19:35] <AdamDork> thats not the problem now...
[07 Jan/19:35] <AdamDork> damm this sucks
[07 Jan/19:35] <musical5> losguy: may I show you whats in my autoexec.bat in the channel???|
[07 Jan/19:35] <Aphrodite> no cussing
[07 Jan/19:35] <AdamDork> ohhhhh
[07 Jan/19:36] <Los`Guy> yeah musical5 just post a few lines at a time though
[07 Jan/19:36] <AdamDork> you cant say damm?
[07 Jan/19:36] <musical5> my config.sys is empty
[07 Jan/19:36] <musical5> ok
[07 Jan/19:36] <musical5> its short
[07 Jan/19:36] <cwoods> good 
[07 Jan/19:36] <cwoods> musical5 <- anything starting in the autoexec.bat that ends with .com or .exe?
[07 Jan/19:36] <Spoodge> where under monitor what do u want to know
[07 Jan/19:37] <cwoods> Spoodge <- when you click on the monitor tab, other than the option, what does it say
[07 Jan/19:37] <Spoodge> plug and play monitor
[07 Jan/19:38] <AdamDork> there u go
[07 Jan/19:38] <Spoodge> and some checked option boxes
[07 Jan/19:38] <Spoodge> nothingmore
[07 Jan/19:38] <musical5> c:\>set classpath=c:\program files\heat\navbar\;c:\program files\heat\navbar
[07 Jan/19:38] <musical5> heats a bloody game network site
[07 Jan/19:38] <musical5> its been coming up for a long time though
[07 Jan/19:38] <cwoods> Spoodge, you should be able to click on the change button and select your actual monitor brand and model
[07 Jan/19:38] <musical5> I play there now and then
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[07 Jan/19:39] <Spoodge> mine is a komodo plug and play
[07 Jan/19:39] <cwoods> Spoodge <- then (maybe after a reboot) you should be able to select High Color (16 bit).
[07 Jan/19:39] <Los`Guy> that should not be a problem musical5
[07 Jan/19:39] <Spoodge> wont rebooting delete everything though
[07 Jan/19:39] <musical5> I get that windows protection error when I reboot
[07 Jan/19:40] <musical5> not full boot up
[07 Jan/19:40] <Spoodge> i have no back ups of anything or the disks to back it up its my moms comp for work
[07 Jan/19:40] <Spoodge> im trying to fix it
[07 Jan/19:40] <Spoodge> but she has all her work on here
[07 Jan/19:40] <Spoodge> and i cnat lose any of it
[07 Jan/19:40] <musical5> at least Im not locking up anymore hehe
[07 Jan/19:41] <cwoods> Spoodge <- you won't loose anything... be sure to press Apply after you change the monitor brand and model...
[07 Jan/19:41] <LosGuy> you were locking up? what changed then?
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[07 Jan/19:41] <musical5> I tried to add a ata/66 promise card
[07 Jan/19:41] <musical5> and that was a real mess for me
[07 Jan/19:41] <Los`Guy> there is your problem most likely
[07 Jan/19:41] <Spoodge> wehn i clikc change though it takes me to and update driver screen
[07 Jan/19:42] <Los`Guy> look around here musical5 http://search.support.microsoft.com/kb/psssearch.asp?SPR=w98&T=B&KT=ALL&T1=7d&LQ=Compatibility+Mode+&S=F&A=T&DU=C&FR=0&D=win98x%2Bor%2Bierelease%2Bor%2Bcustserv%2Bor%2Bcrossnet&LPR=%22windows+98%22&LNG=ENG&VR=http%3A%2F%2Fsupport.microsoft.com%2Fsupport&CAT=Support&VRL=ENG&SA=PER&Go.x=45&Go.y=24
[07 Jan/19:42] <Spoodge> and i have no idea how to reboot 
[07 Jan/19:42] <cwoods> Spoodge <- good, continue
[07 Jan/19:42] <musical5> but I windows ended up restoring an old registry I believe
[07 Jan/19:42] <Spoodge> k
[07 Jan/19:42] <Spoodge> where should i search for a better driver
[07 Jan/19:42] <Los`Guy> musical5 consider a reinstall of win98 on top of itself
[07 Jan/19:43] <Spoodge> cd floppy microsoft update
[07 Jan/19:43] <cwoods> Spoodge, leave everything unchecked
[07 Jan/19:43] <musical5> yes I have
[07 Jan/19:43] <Spoodge> k
[07 Jan/19:43] <musical5> considered:-)
[07 Jan/19:43] <Spoodge> and click next
[07 Jan/19:44] <Los`Guy> should take you about 30-40 minutes and you should loose nothing
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[07 Jan/19:44] <cwoods>  Spoodge, the Seach button should already be checked, click next, nothing checked in the next window, next again
[07 Jan/19:44] <Spoodge> it says best driver found already installed
[07 Jan/19:44] <musical5> well Ive heard that most of the time its ok but...now and then its very messy
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[07 Jan/19:45] <cwoods> Spoodge, and the monitor brand and model is the correct one, right.
[07 Jan/19:45] <Spoodge> it dont let me pick a diff monitor it just says plug and play
[07 Jan/19:45] <Los`Guy> musical5 ...there is always a risk
[07 Jan/19:45] <Spoodge> my monitor is a komodo plug and play
[07 Jan/19:45] <Los`Guy> do you have your monitor drivers?
[07 Jan/19:45] <Spoodge> i have no drivers here
[07 Jan/19:46] <Los`Guy> doh
[07 Jan/19:46] <Spoodge> some guy my mom works with usually does this
[07 Jan/19:46] <Spoodge> but i wanted to try and do it cause she never takes it in
[07 Jan/19:46] <musical5> see I was real sure I was having hardware problems because anytime there was any serious disk access going on it would lock up
[07 Jan/19:46] <musical5> now Im not to sure
[07 Jan/19:46] <Spoodge> its been messed up for like 6 months now
[07 Jan/19:46] <Los`Guy> musical5 it is a possiblity
[07 Jan/19:47] <musical5> I wish I could tell for sure
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[07 Jan/19:47] <Los`Guy> are you positive all your cards etc are seated properly
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[07 Jan/19:47] <musical5> yep
[07 Jan/19:47] * Los`Guy just went through something similar on this new system
[07 Jan/19:47] <musical5> bummer
[07 Jan/19:47] <Los`Guy> even though I was sure I seated the memory properly..it wasnt apparently
[07 Jan/19:48] <musical5> hmm wow
[07 Jan/19:48] <musical5> Ive been on this one for 8 mos
[07 Jan/19:48] <Los`Guy> I shut down and just pushed on it and the system has rocked since
[07 Jan/19:48] <musical5> without a glitch
[07 Jan/19:48] <Los`Guy> but you installed a vid card right
[07 Jan/19:48] <musical5> nope nothinbg
[07 Jan/19:48] <Los`Guy> possible you knocked something else looose
[07 Jan/19:48] <musical5> oops
[07 Jan/19:48] <BlodHound> Can someone ,really good in windows 98's network configuration, help me please ?
[07 Jan/19:48] <Spoodge> is it possible for me to dl a new driver and just install it
[07 Jan/19:49] <musical5> I bought the ata/66 controller due to the problems I was having
[07 Jan/19:49] <Los`Guy> oh... your ATA/66 ... 
[07 Jan/19:49] <cwoods> Spoodge, if the video card mfg has a web site, you should be able to.
[07 Jan/19:49] <musical5> thought it was maybe the onboard controller that went bad
[07 Jan/19:49] <Los`Guy> musical5 looked for a bios upgrade even?
[07 Jan/19:49] <Los`Guy> I would bet it is related to that
[07 Jan/19:49] <musical5> heheh ya
[07 Jan/19:49] <musical5> but Im chicken
[07 Jan/19:50] <musical5> and the directions were vague
[07 Jan/19:50] * cwoods had to disable IDE port 0 before the IOMAGIC ATA/66 card would work...
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[07 Jan/19:50] * BlodHound needs help with his win98's Network Configuration ... Can anyone help me please .... msg me please ... thank you
[07 Jan/19:50] <musical5> I did that cwoods
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[07 Jan/19:50] <musical5> I dont even want mine now
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[07 Jan/19:51] <musical5> Im returning it
[07 Jan/19:51] <cwoods> musical5, and no hd's on the other port
[07 Jan/19:51] <musical5> well Im back to just the mobo
[07 Jan/19:51] <musical5> and its working great except for the reboot issue
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[07 Jan/19:52] <h8cap> Does anyone know how to set up my computer that it deletes the files under START-DOCUMENTS upon startup
[07 Jan/19:52] * BlodHound needs help with his win98's Network Configuration ... Can anyone help me please .... msg me please ... thank you
[07 Jan/19:52] <LosGuy> h8cap install tweakUI
[07 Jan/19:52] <LosGuy> you will find that under the paranoia tab
[07 Jan/19:52] <h8cap> where can i get it
[07 Jan/19:52] <h8cap> www.download.com
[07 Jan/19:52] <LosGuy> win98 or win98se?
[07 Jan/19:52] <h8cap> thanks 
[07 Jan/19:52] <Spoodge> hey h8cap
[07 Jan/19:52] <LosGuy> h8cap which version?
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[07 Jan/19:53] <h8cap> i'm not sure
[07 Jan/19:53] <h8cap> how can i find out
[07 Jan/19:53] <h8cap> i think win 98 but i'm not sure
[07 Jan/19:53] <LosGuy> right click on my computer and choose properties
[07 Jan/19:53] <h8cap> whats the difference
[07 Jan/19:53] <LosGuy> what is the version there
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[07 Jan/19:54] <musical5> so my autoexec.bat and config.sys are ok in your opinion Losguy?
[07 Jan/19:54] <LosGuy> yes musical5
[07 Jan/19:54] <LosGuy> only the one line there
[07 Jan/19:54] <h8cap> just says microsoft windows 98
[07 Jan/19:54] <musical5> hmyes
[07 Jan/19:54] <LosGuy> if it was drivers..then it would be bad
[07 Jan/19:54] <musical5> yes
[07 Jan/19:54] <LosGuy> h8cap no it says numbers ...ie .1998 or .2222a
[07 Jan/19:55] <musical5> brb
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[07 Jan/19:55] <cwoods> LosGuy, could musicl5's problem be RAM related since its a protection fault and there aren't any trs's loading on bootup?
[07 Jan/19:56] <h8cap> uhhh.....
[07 Jan/19:56] <LosGuy> yeah cwoods 
[07 Jan/19:56] <musical5> RAM?
[07 Jan/19:56] <cwoods> bad memory
[07 Jan/19:56] <cwoods> or chip
[07 Jan/19:56] <musical5> hmmm
[07 Jan/19:56] <LosGuy> (remember I told you bout my problem musical5?)
[07 Jan/19:56] <musical5> ya
[07 Jan/19:56] <cwoods> maybe, reseat the ram...
[07 Jan/19:56] <musical5> ok
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[07 Jan/19:57] <h8cap> it doesn't say it there 
[07 Jan/19:57] <musical5> but its not been moved
[07 Jan/19:57] <musical5> at all
[07 Jan/19:57] <musical5> wait bootup is fine
[07 Jan/19:57] <musical5> just not reboot
[07 Jan/19:57] <cwoods> doesn't matter, vibration, corrosion (slight)......
[07 Jan/19:57] <musical5> what about that?
[07 Jan/19:57] <h8cap> under the tab general?......
[07 Jan/19:57] <h8cap> it that where i should be looking
[07 Jan/19:57] <cwoods> bootup up just uses the base 640 (i think)
[07 Jan/19:57] <h8cap> ?...
[07 Jan/19:58] <musical5> ok
[07 Jan/19:58] <LosGuy> h8cap my computer RIGHT click choose properties and you will see it on the first page
[07 Jan/19:58] <musical5> brb
[07 Jan/19:58] <LosGuy> 4.10.... 1998 or .2222a
[07 Jan/19:59] <cwoods> hey musical5..........
[07 Jan/19:59] <h8cap> sorry bout that right in front of my face 1998
[07 Jan/19:59] <LosGuy> ok 
[07 Jan/19:59] <h8cap> 4.10.1998
[07 Jan/19:59] <LosGuy> you will find tweakUI on your cdrom then
[07 Jan/19:59] <h8cap> what disk
[07 Jan/20:00] <h8cap> the one i use to reformat
[07 Jan/20:00] <LosGuy> in the tools/reskit/powertoy folder
[07 Jan/20:00] <h8cap> ?.....
[07 Jan/20:01] <LosGuy> your win98 cdrom
[07 Jan/20:01] <h8cap> cool
[07 Jan/20:01] <LosGuy> find tweakUI.inf RIGHT click on it choose install
[07 Jan/20:01] <LosGuy> you will find it in control panel after install
[07 Jan/20:01] <LosGuy> but be carefull with it
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[07 Jan/20:02] <cwoods> ... had trouble with Xmouse.... installed and couldn't remove it....... lol
[07 Jan/20:02] <LosGuy> you can make changes that will not make you happy if you play too much
[07 Jan/20:02] * BlodHound needs help with his win98's Network Configuration ... Can anyone help me please .... msg me please ... thank you
[07 Jan/20:02] <LosGuy> your not the only one cwoods
[07 Jan/20:02] <cwoods> lol
[07 Jan/20:02] <LosGuy> BlodHound ask in channel
[07 Jan/20:02] <LosGuy> we dont do /msgs here
[07 Jan/20:02] <cwoods> ask your question
[07 Jan/20:03] <BlodHound> ok Thank you .. Ill tell my problem :
[07 Jan/20:03] <h8cap> if i can't find my windows 98 cd.......is there anyway i can get it off the net
[07 Jan/20:05] <cwoods> www.winmag.com/win98/software.htm
[07 Jan/20:05] <h8cap> thank you
[07 Jan/20:05] <h8cap> :)~
[07 Jan/20:05] <BlodHound> 1st-Someone hacked me the only 30 minutes that my firewall was down ... then, he deleted many need files to load windows .... but i arranged that ... The problem is the NetWork configuration ... My Network card cannot load ndis2sup.vxd at all .. why, i dont know ... So because of that, my network doesnt work ... (Im with a friend's computer ...) If someone can help me, that would be very kind .... thank you
[07 Jan/20:06] <cwoods> also read:  www.annoyances.org/win98/features/tweakui.html
[07 Jan/20:06] <musical5> no such luck here with the ram
[07 Jan/20:06] <musical5> by the way....Im getting a inadvertant problem with my power supply fan making a ton of racket no and then
[07 Jan/20:07] <musical5> now and then
[07 Jan/20:07] <musical5> any realation?
[07 Jan/20:07] <LosGuy> time to replace..the fan is failing 
[07 Jan/20:07] <musical5> yep
[07 Jan/20:07] <cwoods> oops, then you may be having a heat problem and resulting voltage problem too
[07 Jan/20:07] <LosGuy> could be but is very hard to say musical5
[07 Jan/20:07] <BlodHound> Does Someone know which .cab of the Windows98 CD-ROM contains the Winsock II Installation ????
[07 Jan/20:07] <musical5> well I have an bit bh6 and everything checks out fine
[07 Jan/20:08] <musical5> temp wise
[07 Jan/20:08] <musical5> and fan rpm
[07 Jan/20:08] <cwoods> musical, you may want to be sure you aren't 'shadowing' system or video rom in ram and try a reboot
[07 Jan/20:09] <musical5> ok
[07 Jan/20:09] <h8cap> Losguy<- you were saying if I mess with the settings to much i could be very unhappy.....how so?
[07 Jan/20:09] <musical5> br then
[07 Jan/20:10] <cwoods> h8cap look at www.annoyances.org/win98/features/tweakui.html
[07 Jan/20:10] <LosGuy> dont try to disable IE or hide drives (and avoid the xmouse bit)
[07 Jan/20:11] <cwoods> LosGuy, what the 'extra' commands in himem.sys to do the detailed memory check? /??????
[07 Jan/20:11] <h8cap> i'm illiterate when it comes to computers and I apologize for my inconviences but i have it saved and i have winzip what do i do when the files were unzipped
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[07 Jan/20:12] <musical5> video bios shadow enabled
[07 Jan/20:12] <musical5> is that it?
[07 Jan/20:13] <cwoods> musicl5, could be, for now, don't shadow anything (system or video) and see if it clears up the protection fault
[07 Jan/20:13] <musical5> ok
[07 Jan/20:13] <musical5> its the only shadowing I see in there
[07 Jan/20:14] <BlodHound> Aye, does someone can tell me with what program can you edit a .sys or a .dll ....
[07 Jan/20:14] <BlodHound> Notepad is ok for the .sys ... but the .dll ...
[07 Jan/20:14] <Azmodan> BlodHound, you don't edit those files
[07 Jan/20:14] <Azmodan> sys can be text files but DLL's you should never edit
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[07 Jan/20:14] <BlodHound> I want to modify them ... or to create some, one of these days .. !!!
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[07 Jan/20:15] <musical5> video and system bios are enabled
[07 Jan/20:15] <musical5> no on those?
[07 Jan/20:15] <musical5> bios?
[07 Jan/20:15] <musical5> weird
[07 Jan/20:15] <cwoods> musical5, is this an E-Machine?
[07 Jan/20:16] <BlodHound> Thank you everybody , even if anybody helped me !!!!! Ill reinstall this fuckin windows98 , then everything is gonna be alright !!!!!!
[07 Jan/20:16] <BlodHound> Oh yes everylittle thing, is gonna be alright ...
[07 Jan/20:16] <musical5> no its a homegrown abit bh6
[07 Jan/20:16] <BlodHound> Bob Marley .. !!!
[07 Jan/20:16] <BlodHound> see you everybody
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[07 Jan/20:16] <musical5> no jumpers
[07 Jan/20:16] <cwoods> ?
[07 Jan/20:16] <musical5> software controlled mostly
[07 Jan/20:16] <cwoods> ok...
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[07 Jan/20:18] <cwoods> musical5, how far into the windows98 startup do you get.
[07 Jan/20:18] <LosGuy> doh
[07 Jan/20:18] <musical5> to the win98 screen
[07 Jan/20:18] <musical5> then the protection fault on reboot
[07 Jan/20:19] <cwoods> do you know what all is you your startup folder?
[07 Jan/20:19] <musical5> video bios shadow enable or disable???
[07 Jan/20:19] <cwoods> disable
[07 Jan/20:19] <musical5> ok
[07 Jan/20:20] <cwoods> possibly something in the startup folder LosGuy?
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[07 Jan/20:20] <LosGuy> I doubt it ... 
[07 Jan/20:21] <cwoods> he keeps saying reboot yet he's getting to the splash screen, then a reboot? corrupted .dll?
[07 Jan/20:22] <Deton8R> more likely he's overclocking his cpu
[07 Jan/20:22] <LosGuy> I have seen this in the knowledge base somewhere
[07 Jan/20:22] <musical5> wow!!
[07 Jan/20:22] <Deton8R> or having cache errors
[07 Jan/20:22] <musical5> It worked
[07 Jan/20:22] <musical5> reboots now
[07 Jan/20:22] <musical5> thx a lot
[07 Jan/20:22] <cwoods> good.... 
[07 Jan/20:23] <musical5> one more question
[07 Jan/20:23] <cwoods> go
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[07 Jan/20:23] <h8cap> Thank you all you've been most helpful
[07 Jan/20:23] <h8cap> :)~
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[07 Jan/20:24] <musical5> why would I be running mode 2 for my HD when it and the controller are both ata/66
[07 Jan/20:24] <musical5> ?
[07 Jan/20:24] <musical5> its set auto
[07 Jan/20:24] <Deton8R> cuz you have a gigabyte motherboard
[07 Jan/20:24] <cwoods> its the PIO mode the drive is good for.... 
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[07 Jan/20:24] <musical5> gigabyte?
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[07 Jan/20:24] <nitewing> can someone help with some cd rom problems?
[07 Jan/20:24] <musical5> man this is a busy place
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[07 Jan/20:25] <Deton8R> boards with Ali chipsets screw up the drive identification when in UDMA 66 mode
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[07 Jan/20:25] <Deton8R> ya might check that
[07 Jan/20:25] <cwoods> ask your question nitewing
[07 Jan/20:25] <musical5> Ali?? they are intel
[07 Jan/20:25] <Deton8R> like PIO Mode 4 
[07 Jan/20:25] <Deton8R> no, they are Ali
[07 Jan/20:25] <musical5> hmm weird they say intel
[07 Jan/20:25] <Deton8R> Ali MVP3
[07 Jan/20:25] <Deton8R> that one does it
[07 Jan/20:26] <musical5> so Ill never run at 66?
[07 Jan/20:26] <nitewing> k...my cd rom works like it boots up and will open disk....but it doesnt display any files...like it isnt reading
[07 Jan/20:27] <Deton8R> that's not what I'm saying
[07 Jan/20:27] <Deton8R> just check IF it's an Ali chipset
[07 Jan/20:27] <Deton8R> there might be a bios update for your board that fixes it
[07 Jan/20:27] <Deton8R> mine was like that
[07 Jan/20:28] <musical5> they are intel for sure
[07 Jan/20:28] <musical5> just looked
[07 Jan/20:28] <Deton8R> ok
[07 Jan/20:28] <cwoods> nitewing, we don't msg in this channel....
[07 Jan/20:28] <musical5> but its in auto and comin up at mode2 so....
[07 Jan/20:28] <musical5> guess Im ou of luck
[07 Jan/20:29] <Deton8R> now, make sure you didn't screw up the settings in bios
[07 Jan/20:29] <Deton8R> to enable udma66 and pio mode auto
[07 Jan/20:29] <musical5> what do you mean?
[07 Jan/20:29] <musical5> no I didnt try
[07 Jan/20:29] <Deton8R> look in bios
[07 Jan/20:29] <musical5> ya
[07 Jan/20:29] <Deton8R> make sure drive settings are in auto
[07 Jan/20:29] <Deton8R> try that first
[07 Jan/20:29] <musical5> they are
[07 Jan/20:29] <Deton8R> check all the settings....
[07 Jan/20:29] <Los`Guy> `say
[07 Jan/20:29] <Deton8R> all screens
[07 Jan/20:30] <musical5> right
[07 Jan/20:30] <Deton8R> one little setting in there anywhere could mess it up
[07 Jan/20:30] <Deton8R> I take it this system has Award BIOS?
[07 Jan/20:30] <musical5> ya
[07 Jan/20:30] <cwoods> nitewing, i don't have any suggestions for you, maybe try cleaning the cd
[07 Jan/20:31] <nitewing> k
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[07 Jan/20:37] <musical5> my drive is in LBA mode
[07 Jan/20:37] <musical5> thats the only one it would work in I believe
[07 Jan/20:37] <musical5> I can try it right?
[07 Jan/20:40] <cwoods> been fun.... see ya'll later....
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[07 Jan/20:41] <Los`Guy> you want LBA mode musical5
[07 Jan/20:41] <Los`Guy> most likely
[07 Jan/20:41] <musical5> I tried it and got another protection error
[07 Jan/20:41] <musical5> needed to reboot
[07 Jan/20:42] <musical5> LBA it is
[07 Jan/20:42] <Los`Guy> how big is the drive?
[07 Jan/20:42] <musical5> 17.2 gig
[07 Jan/20:43] <Los`Guy> yeah
[07 Jan/20:43] <Los`Guy> what were you using?
[07 Jan/20:43] <musical5> Im just thrilled Im actually able to reboot without getting an 
[07 Jan/20:43] <musical5> LBA mode
[07 Jan/20:44] <Los`Guy> you need LBA on any drive with more than 1024 cylinders
[07 Jan/20:44] <musical5> oh
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[07 Jan/20:44] <musical5> so then because of that it wont run at66?
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[07 Jan/20:44] <Los`Guy> no ... not related Ibelive
[07 Jan/20:45] <musical5> hmmm
[07 Jan/20:45] <Los`Guy> at least as far as I know
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[07 Jan/20:45] * Los`Guy dont have a 66 though
[07 Jan/20:46] <musical5> how does one acheive it then?
[07 Jan/20:46] <musical5> spelling:-)
[07 Jan/20:47] <CJ^> witht eh correct cable
[07 Jan/20:47] <CJ^> and the correct controller
[07 Jan/20:47] <CJ^> ALI5 doesnt actually work well...
[07 Jan/20:48] <CJ^> nor Intel..
[07 Jan/20:48] * Los`Guy wonders when CJ^ snuck in... all this hardware stuff and yer not here
[07 Jan/20:48] <CJ^> hehe
[07 Jan/20:48] <CJ^> sorry  sexxxxin up someone  :PPPP
[07 Jan/20:48] <Los`Guy> hahah
[07 Jan/20:48] <CJ^> been watchin
[07 Jan/20:48] <CJ^> and  UDMA 66 is nto going to happen on an Intel chipset
[07 Jan/20:48] <CJ^> nor an ALi5
[07 Jan/20:48] <CJ^> nor VIA
[07 Jan/20:49] <CJ^> unless yer doing the newer VIA  and have the correct cable...
[07 Jan/20:49] <musical5> I bought a promise controller today
[07 Jan/20:49] <musical5> but I gave up on it
[07 Jan/20:49] <CJ^> its nto worht it in my eyes
[07 Jan/20:49] <CJ^> <<< go SCSI!!!
[07 Jan/20:49] <musical5> lol sure man
[07 Jan/20:49] <CJ^> its cheaper in the long run
[07 Jan/20:49] <musical5> UDMA raid setup is it!!
[07 Jan/20:49] <CJ^> less hassle...
[07 Jan/20:50] <musical5> hands down
[07 Jan/20:52] * Los`Guy would love it... just too expensive!!!!!
[07 Jan/20:52] <Los`Guy> bl0w m3
[07 Jan/20:52] <Los`Guy> doh
[07 Jan/20:52] <musical5> me to
[07 Jan/20:52] <Los`Guy> wrong channel
[07 Jan/20:52] <Los`Guy> :P
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[07 Jan/20:54] <DaDsMoOtH> I've got a good question i think.
[07 Jan/20:54] <DaDsMoOtH> :)
[07 Jan/20:54] <Los`Guy> should we ask you what it is?
[07 Jan/20:54] <DaDsMoOtH> course.
[07 Jan/20:54] <DaDsMoOtH> hehe
[07 Jan/20:54] <DaDsMoOtH> ok...
[07 Jan/20:55] <DaDsMoOtH> i'll ask
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[07 Jan/20:55] <musical5> Thanks again for the help everybody
[07 Jan/20:55] <musical5> its time for bed
[07 Jan/20:55] <Los`Guy> good luck musical5
[07 Jan/20:55] <musical5> Ill cya later
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[07 Jan/20:55] <Los`Guy> l8r
[07 Jan/20:55] <DaDsMoOtH> I want to password protect my windows.  (Ie. so i can leave it, the screensaver comes on, and then you can't get rid of the screen saver until you type in your password)  How do i go about doing that?
[07 Jan/20:55] <musical5> adios LosGuy
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[07 Jan/20:56] <Los`Guy> get linux
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[07 Jan/20:56] <Los`Guy> haha
[07 Jan/20:56] <DaDsMoOtH> hahahahaha
[07 Jan/20:56] <DaDsMoOtH> i really don't WANT to use linux
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[07 Jan/20:57] <DaDsMoOtH> and i KNOW that you can do that in windows.
[07 Jan/20:57] <Los`Guy> uh I dont do screen savers...but I think there are some out there with that 
[07 Jan/20:57] <Los`Guy> I dont know about windows
[07 Jan/20:57] <Los`Guy> windows screen savers that is
[07 Jan/20:57] <DaDsMoOtH> i've seen it before
[07 Jan/20:57] <Los`Guy> so have I
[07 Jan/20:58] <DaDsMoOtH> Some computer stores have it set up like that...they have their screen savers going on the display computers, then, if someone touches the mouse or keyboard, the password box comes up.
[07 Jan/20:58] <Los`Guy> yes
[07 Jan/20:58] <CJ^> thats PWD protection....
[07 Jan/20:58] <Los`Guy> but since I dont use screen savers... I dont know
[07 Jan/20:59] <DaDsMoOtH> CJ:  How do i go about doing that?
[07 Jan/20:59] <CJ^> yeap
[07 Jan/20:59] <CJ^> under where ya set the screensaver
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[07 Jan/21:00] <CJ^> Check the box that says password protect
[07 Jan/21:00] <CJ^> oh
[07 Jan/21:00] <CJ^> just to let ya know
[07 Jan/21:00] <CJ^> it can be bypassed
[07 Jan/21:00] <CJ^> with a reboot
[07 Jan/21:00] <DaDsMoOtH> yup
[07 Jan/21:00] <DaDsMoOtH> i know
[07 Jan/21:00] <CJ^> and anyone can uncheck it
[07 Jan/21:00] <CJ^> try Amor
[07 Jan/21:00] <DaDsMoOtH> Amor?
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[07 Jan/21:00] <CJ^> yeap
[07 Jan/21:00] <CJ^> thats what most of the computer stores use
[07 Jan/21:01] <DaDsMoOtH> what would that be?
[07 Jan/21:01] <CJ^> Amor
[07 Jan/21:01] <CJ^> thast what its called
[07 Jan/21:01] <DaDsMoOtH> ahhhhh, ic...that's the name of the program.
[07 Jan/21:01] <DaDsMoOtH> so...
[07 Jan/21:01] <DaDsMoOtH> webpage?
[07 Jan/21:02] <DaDsMoOtH> Do you know of one with it?
[07 Jan/21:02] <CJ^> looking
[07 Jan/21:02] <Los`Guy> is it amor or armor?
[07 Jan/21:02] <CJ^> armor i think
[07 Jan/21:02] <DaDsMoOtH> hahahaha
[07 Jan/21:03] <DaDsMoOtH> DON'T try www.amor.com
[07 Jan/21:03] <DaDsMoOtH> hehe
[07 Jan/21:03] * Los`Guy can imagine
[07 Jan/21:03] <Los`Guy> cept it should be amour
[07 Jan/21:03] <Los`Guy> shouldnt it?
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[07 Jan/21:05] <CJ^> hmmm
[07 Jan/21:05] <CJ^> gawd  ive seen it on almost all PC's at the stores  but cant find it now..
[07 Jan/21:05] <CJ^> go figure
[07 Jan/21:06] <DaDsMoOtH> Is that the sound of you giving up...or are you still looking?
[07 Jan/21:06] <Los`Guy> www.amor.com... a german smut site hehe
[07 Jan/21:06] <Los`Guy> hmm maybe not german
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[07 Jan/21:09] <CJ^> http://www.nt.unets.ru:8101/john/  << tyr that
[07 Jan/21:09] <CJ^> nope
[07 Jan/21:10] <CJ^> er
[07 Jan/21:10] <CJ^> nm
[07 Jan/21:10] <CJ^> yeah
[07 Jan/21:10] <CJ^> try that
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[07 Jan/21:10] <Los`Guy> DevilDigg markets something similar I belive
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[07 Jan/21:12] <DaDsMoOtH> haha...so this is one of those programs where you damned well better make sure you don't forget your password eh?
[07 Jan/21:12] <DaDsMoOtH> hehe
[07 Jan/21:13] <CJ^> yeap
[07 Jan/21:13] <Los`Guy> sheez
[07 Jan/21:13] <Los`Guy> strong protection then recommends a bios password
[07 Jan/21:14] <Los`Guy> oh well good enough for most people I guess
[07 Jan/21:15] <DaDsMoOtH> Ok...this is what i was PLANNING on doing.  i wanted to set the windows screensaver password, then, to solve the reboot problem, also have a password for when it's booting up.  Is that what's called a "bios password"
[07 Jan/21:15] <DaDsMoOtH> ?
[07 Jan/21:15] <CJ^> depends ont eh system
[07 Jan/21:15] <Los`Guy> kewl little app on annoyances.org that reboots the computer if someone enters a new user on boot up
[07 Jan/21:16] <CJ^> some do the bios password and stop the boot up
[07 Jan/21:16] <CJ^> others just have the bios password inplace to stop the bios from being messed with
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[07 Jan/21:16] <DaDsMoOtH> CJ^ : how do i set a Bios password to stop the bootup?
[07 Jan/21:16] <CJ^> heh
[07 Jan/21:16] <Los`Guy> in bios.. you will see the option
[07 Jan/21:16] <CJ^> Dads  it depends ont eh BIOS...
[07 Jan/21:17] <CJ^> not all allow it to stop boot up
[07 Jan/21:17] <CJ^> you would have to read the system manula
[07 Jan/21:17] <CJ^> or mb manual
[07 Jan/21:18] <DaDsMoOtH> I have an ASUS P3B-F motherboard
[07 Jan/21:18] <CJ^> then check the mb manual..
[07 Jan/21:18] <CJ^> see if the BIOS password can be set to STOP bootup
[07 Jan/21:18] <CJ^> some can.....
[07 Jan/21:20] <DaDsMoOtH> You know what i mean right.  For instance...i want to hit the reset button.  While it starts booting, i want "Enter password: " to come up.  As soon as i enter the password, i want the computer to finish booting and then load windows.
[07 Jan/21:20] <DaDsMoOtH> are we on the same page here?
[07 Jan/21:21] <CJ^> yes
[07 Jan/21:21] <CJ^> BUT
[07 Jan/21:21] <CJ^> again
[07 Jan/21:21] <CJ^> not all BIOS's have th feature that stops boot up with a password..
[07 Jan/21:21] <CJ^> ONLY some
[07 Jan/21:21] <CJ^> actually all have the feature..
[07 Jan/21:21] <CJ^> not all are enabled..
[07 Jan/21:22] <CJ^> meaning that a BIOS is capable of doign this...
[07 Jan/21:22] <CJ^> not all MB makers put it in
[07 Jan/21:25] <DaDsMoOtH> hmmmmmmmmmm
[07 Jan/21:25] <DaDsMoOtH> i've now read the stuff
[07 Jan/21:26] <DaDsMoOtH> it has a supervisor and user password option
[07 Jan/21:26] <DaDsMoOtH> the supervisor option (when enabled) restricts access to the bios and those settings
[07 Jan/21:26] <DaDsMoOtH> the user option i'm puzzled on.
[07 Jan/21:26] <DaDsMoOtH> it mentions it
[07 Jan/21:26] <DaDsMoOtH> but doesn't mention what it does
[07 Jan/21:27] <DaDsMoOtH> i'm thinking that it's the option to stop boot up...would you agree?
[07 Jan/21:27] <Los`Guy> try it
[07 Jan/21:27] <CJ^> may or may not be...
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[07 Jan/21:28] <DaDsMoOtH> haha
[07 Jan/21:28] <DaDsMoOtH> last REALLY stupid question
[07 Jan/21:29] <DaDsMoOtH> to get into the bios...which button do i hit again?
[07 Jan/21:29] <Los`Guy> it will tel lyou on boot
[07 Jan/21:29] <Los`Guy> usually del
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[07 Jan/21:29] <DaDsMoOtH> hmmmmmmmm
[07 Jan/21:29] <DaDsMoOtH> ok
[07 Jan/21:29] <DaDsMoOtH> i'll brb then i guess
[07 Jan/21:30] <Los`Guy> good luck
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[07 Jan/21:35] <selif-X> anyone know how to change monitor in 98? I have wrong one and every time it comes up i cant see anything to change it.... it doesnt let me change in safe mode
[07 Jan/21:36] <CJ^> selif
[07 Jan/21:36] <CJ^> right click on the desktop
[07 Jan/21:36] <CJ^> properties
[07 Jan/21:36] <selif-X> Yea...
[07 Jan/21:36] <CJ^> settings tab
[07 Jan/21:36] <CJ^> advanced
[07 Jan/21:36] <selif-X> But the motitor is wrong and i cant see anything
[07 Jan/21:36] <CJ^> monitor tab
[07 Jan/21:36] <CJ^> change it there...
[07 Jan/21:36] <selif-X> I know...
[07 Jan/21:37] <CJ^> then in safe mode
[07 Jan/21:37] <CJ^> go intot eh device manager
[07 Jan/21:37] <selif-X> in safe mode?
[07 Jan/21:37] <CJ^> and reomove the video card...
[07 Jan/21:37] <CJ^> then
[07 Jan/21:37] <CJ^> YES
[07 Jan/21:37] <selif-X> k   
[07 Jan/21:37] <selif-X> didnt think bout that...
[07 Jan/21:37] <selif-X> thanks
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[07 Jan/21:41] <DaDsMoOtH> woah
[07 Jan/21:41] <DaDsMoOtH> you guys ROCK!
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[07 Jan/21:41] <DaDsMoOtH> Bios password.... :)~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[07 Jan/21:41] <CJ^> naahh
[07 Jan/21:41] <LosGuy> I take it that it worked for you hehe
[07 Jan/21:41] <DaDsMoOtH> oh ya!
[07 Jan/21:42] <DaDsMoOtH> hehe
[07 Jan/21:42] <DaDsMoOtH> :)
[07 Jan/21:42] <DaDsMoOtH> Who needs nt for security?
[07 Jan/21:42] <DaDsMoOtH> :)))
[07 Jan/21:42] <LosGuy> hah
[07 Jan/21:42] <CJ^> mm.. most ppl
[07 Jan/21:42] <CJ^> ill take Linux thanks...
[07 Jan/21:42] <LosGuy> it is not all that hard to get around a bios password if someone really wants to
[07 Jan/21:42] <DaDsMoOtH> you'd have to open up the computer
[07 Jan/21:42] <CJ^> yeap
[07 Jan/21:42] <CJ^> nope
[07 Jan/21:43] <LosGuy> maybe
[07 Jan/21:43] <DaDsMoOtH> Well...unless you're a serious hacker.
[07 Jan/21:43] <LosGuy> if they they can run a program they can kill the cmos
[07 Jan/21:43] <LosGuy> on most systems anyway
[07 Jan/21:43] <CJ^> BIOS on a floppy...
[07 Jan/21:43] <CJ^> seen that
[07 Jan/21:43] <CJ^> its scary too
[07 Jan/21:43] <LosGuy> hmm
[07 Jan/21:43] <DaDsMoOtH> if i set a supervisor password...they can't do that.
[07 Jan/21:43] <DaDsMoOtH> but...
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[07 Jan/21:43] <DaDsMoOtH> i'm not THAT into security
[07 Jan/21:44] <DaDsMoOtH> I'm more into my family not touching my new computer.
[07 Jan/21:44] <DaDsMoOtH> :)
[07 Jan/21:44] <LosGuy> oh you should be fine then
[07 Jan/21:44] * LosGuy wonders how a bios floppy would boot ...without bios support
[07 Jan/21:45] <CJ^> some go that far Los...
[07 Jan/21:45] <CJ^> some go as far as floppy  then once HDD is accessed..
[07 Jan/21:45] <CJ^> it stops..
[07 Jan/21:45] <CJ^> older Phoenix
[07 Jan/21:45] <LosGuy> so the bios is still alowing some access
[07 Jan/21:46] <CJ^> yeap
[07 Jan/21:46] <LosGuy> else the system wouldnt know how to read the floppy or what to do with it
[07 Jan/21:46] <CJ^> right
[07 Jan/21:46] <CJ^> the other access lock i like...
[07 Jan/21:46] <CJ^> is KB lockout
[07 Jan/21:46] <CJ^> with some cases
[07 Jan/21:46] <DaDsMoOtH> Can you set a hotkey for the screensaver?
[07 Jan/21:47] <CJ^> hmm dunno
[07 Jan/21:47] <CJ^> som KB have that feature  so ya should be able to
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[07 Jan/21:48] <DaDsMoOtH> Where should i look to find out?
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[07 Jan/21:51] <^russia> G'day vulcan
[07 Jan/21:51] <CJ^> oh teh KB lock feature????
[07 Jan/21:51] <CJ^> does yoru case have a KEY HOLE?
[07 Jan/21:51] <CJ^> if so..
[07 Jan/21:51] <CJ^> there is your keyboard lockout
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[07 Jan/21:52] <CJ^> oh
[07 Jan/21:52] <CJ^> also that wire fromthe keylock to the mb must be connected
[07 Jan/21:52] <DaDsMoOtH> no...i mean where should i read up on how to set a hot key for my screensaver.
[07 Jan/21:52] <DaDsMoOtH> ?
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[07 Jan/21:52] <CJ^> hmm
[07 Jan/21:52] <CJ^> windows help possibly..
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[07 Jan/21:53] <CJ^> but since i dont mess with em..
[07 Jan/21:53] <CJ^> im only guessing on that
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[07 Jan/21:53] <DaDsMoOtH> k
[07 Jan/21:54] <^russia> can anyone please help with a power management wake up problem
[07 Jan/21:56] <CJ^> whats the issue?
[07 Jan/21:57] ! BuzzOff is known as ^maab^
[07 Jan/21:57] <^russia> tks cj...i remove some sdram and replaced it with edo ram...the computer now seems to be in semi sleep mode
[07 Jan/21:58] <CJ^> ?
[07 Jan/21:58] <CJ^> well how did that effect power managment?
[07 Jan/21:58] <^russia> the orange light is on ..on the monitor ..but the screen is black
[07 Jan/21:58] <CJ^> do ya mean its just slower???
[07 Jan/21:59] <^russia> no cj..not slower...nothing on the screen at all
[07 Jan/21:59] <CJ^> well..
[07 Jan/21:59] <CJ^> replace the edo with the SDRAM
[07 Jan/21:59] <LosGuy> in other words your computer isnt working...is the memory setup right in bios?]
[07 Jan/21:59] <CJ^> its nto a win98 issue
[07 Jan/21:59] <CJ^> it a hardware issue...
[07 Jan/22:00] <CJ^> or does it even boot up?
[07 Jan/22:00] <LosGuy> or on your MB for that matter if it is an option
[07 Jan/22:00] <^russia> maybe the bios yes..but I cant see the screen to alter the bios
[07 Jan/22:00] <CJ^> then the ram may be bad..
[07 Jan/22:00] <LosGuy> is the memory seated properly?
[07 Jan/22:00] <CJ^> OR you didnt set up the ram for the MB correctly...
[07 Jan/22:01] <CJ^> or that too...
[07 Jan/22:01] <LosGuy> does the computer boot? (or appear to from hard drive activity?)
[07 Jan/22:01] <LosGuy> or beep unusually?
[07 Jan/22:01] <^russia> there are 4..72 pin edo slots..i populated all slots with 16MB simms
[07 Jan/22:02] <LosGuy> does your motherboard support that configuration of memory?
[07 Jan/22:02] <CJ^> are they matched sets of EDO?
[07 Jan/22:03] * LosGuy wonders why this was a poweremanagement issue?
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[07 Jan/22:03] <LosGuy> you go peer
[07 Jan/22:03] <CJ^> heh
[07 Jan/22:03] <CJ^> had to be a win98 issue..
[07 Jan/22:03] <CJ^> only thing let...
[07 Jan/22:03] <CJ^> cant be cause he did something wrong...
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[07 Jan/22:03] <CJ^> users never do anythign wrong...
[07 Jan/22:04] @ mode #win98 [+v ^russia] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[07 Jan/22:04] <^russia> sorry disconnected
[07 Jan/22:04] <^russia> is it possible the ram is not compatible with the computer
[07 Jan/22:05] <CJ^> yes russia...
[07 Jan/22:05] <CJ^> its nto booting
[07 Jan/22:05] <CJ^> pull the ram
[07 Jan/22:05] <LosGuy> pull 2 of them anyway
[07 Jan/22:05] <CJ^> and replace it with the SDRAM that was there..
[07 Jan/22:06] <^russia> ok cj thanks....could it also be rectified in the bios
[07 Jan/22:06] <LosGuy> not if you cant see the bios :)
[07 Jan/22:06] <^russia> in other words does the bios have to be altered to cope with edo ram
[07 Jan/22:07] <CJ^> russia.. maybe
[07 Jan/22:07] <CJ^> BUT if you cant get to teh bios
[07 Jan/22:07] <CJ^> there is a problem...
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[07 Jan/22:08] <LosGuy> I had a board once (p100) that wouldnt boot if the memory was not in a supported configuration as stated in the mb manual....
[07 Jan/22:08] <CJ^> winproxy is free now
[07 Jan/22:08] <CJ^> hmmm
[07 Jan/22:08] <^russia> if i replace the sdram as you suggested...and can then see the screen..can i then alter the bios to accommodate the edo ram
[07 Jan/22:08] <LosGuy> russia  try pulling two of them first
[07 Jan/22:08] <CJ^> russia  IF the bios has to alterted yes
[07 Jan/22:08] <LosGuy> and see if it will boot
[07 Jan/22:08] <CJ^> chekc the mb manual
[07 Jan/22:09] <LosGuy> there ya go
[07 Jan/22:09] <LosGuy> the best awnser yet
[07 Jan/22:10] <^russia> thats all very well losguy...know about rtfm...but i'm trying to discober the cause of the screen balckout..it doesn't say that in the manual does it
[07 Jan/22:10] <LosGuy> you wont know till you read it will you
[07 Jan/22:11] <LosGuy> if you are doing something that your mb wont support ....well 
[07 Jan/22:11] <CJ^> the problem IS the memory
[07 Jan/22:11] <CJ^> try pulling two sticks like Los said..
[07 Jan/22:11] <^russia> ok   thanks...you must be reading a different manual to one I've ever seen  :-))))))
[07 Jan/22:11] <CJ^> it may be that you didnt set the jumpers correctly...
[07 Jan/22:11] <CJ^> ir maybe that the ram is bad
[07 Jan/22:11] <^russia> ok  cj tkanks for your help..will do
[07 Jan/22:11] <LosGuy> russia they are all different
[07 Jan/22:11] <CJ^> it may be that the CORECT voltage isnt set
[07 Jan/22:11] <LosGuy> there is no ONE awnser
[07 Jan/22:12] <^russia> ok los..understand and thanks..will try all of the solutions
[07 Jan/22:12] * CJ^ pulls out the magic wand of answers and fixes
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[07 Jan/22:12] <^russia> tks guys
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[07 Jan/22:12] <CJ^> <poof>
[07 Jan/22:13] <LosGuy> hah
[07 Jan/22:14] <CJ^> hm
[07 Jan/22:14] <CJ^> yeah  look at that
[07 Jan/22:14] <CJ^> Winproxy free for up to 3 users
[07 Jan/22:14] <CJ^> with AV as well...
[07 Jan/22:14] <LosGuy> where?
[07 Jan/22:14] <CJ^> www.winproxy.com
[07 Jan/22:14] <LosGuy> hehe
[07 Jan/22:14] <LosGuy> never used that one
[07 Jan/22:15] <CJ^> just heard about it...
[07 Jan/22:15] <CJ^> seems itss better than winroute...
[07 Jan/22:15] <CJ^> not as easy to set up...:P
[07 Jan/22:15] <LosGuy> haha
[07 Jan/22:15] <LosGuy> better?
[07 Jan/22:16] <CJ^> as far as protection goes i guess...
[07 Jan/22:16] * LosGuy remembers when wingate was free for a few users...and not easy to set up
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[07 Jan/22:17] <Los-Guy> grrr
[07 Jan/22:18] <Los-Guy> now you were saying it is better?
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[07 Jan/22:18] <CJ^> hehe
[07 Jan/22:18] <CJ^> thats what im being told yes
[07 Jan/22:18] <CJ^> ODD thing though
[07 Jan/22:18] <CJ^> 30day trial and Download... both get teh same file...
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[07 Jan/22:18] <CJ^> so................
[07 Jan/22:18] <CJ^> im trying to figure out whats free now...
[07 Jan/22:19] <Los-Guy> hehe
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[07 Jan/22:19] <Los-Guy> ok winroute does proxy AND NAT... firewall (dont care bout the AV and the parental stuff)...
[07 Jan/22:22] <Los-Guy> all I see is Free for thirty days hehe
[07 Jan/22:23] <CJ^> yeah
[07 Jan/22:23] <CJ^> but  from what im being told..
[07 Jan/22:23] <CJ^> it doesnt shutdown after 30 days  so go figure
[07 Jan/22:23] <CJ^> ill give it a whirl
[07 Jan/22:25] <CJ^> well im off to bed...
[07 Jan/22:25] <CJ^> l8r
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[07 Jan/23:37] <RA`DIUS> hi all
[07 Jan/23:37] <Azmodan> hello
[07 Jan/23:37] <RA`DIUS> I got this problem, I up graded from 95 to 98 on my dads laptop, he had a program for work, which I  guess was done in visual basic, when I try to run it, it says can't find VB4....dll
[07 Jan/23:38] <Los-Guy> just go download the vb4 runtimes
[07 Jan/23:38] <RA`DIUS> any ideas ? I tried installing the vb5 and 6 libs but no luck, could it be I need the vb4 ?
[07 Jan/23:38] <RA`DIUS> Los-Guy any idea where I can do that please ?
[07 Jan/23:38] <Azmodan> RA`DIUS, visit www.winfiles.com click search and look for vbrun
[07 Jan/23:38] <Azmodan> grab the version 4 files and install them
[07 Jan/23:39] <Los-Guy> http://www.winappz.com/dlldownload.html
[07 Jan/23:39] <RA`DIUS> thanks
[07 Jan/23:39] <Azmodan> or what Los said, hehehe
[07 Jan/23:39] <RA`DIUS> thanks again
[07 Jan/23:40] <Los-Guy> np they should be easy to find
[07 Jan/23:40] <RA`DIUS> i found 5 and 6 
[07 Jan/23:40] <RA`DIUS> not 4 :[
[07 Jan/23:41] <RA`DIUS> still looking though
[07 Jan/23:41] <Los-Guy> its on that page
[07 Jan/23:41] <Los-Guy> lower right 
[07 Jan/23:42] <Los-Guy> vb40032.dll and vb40016.dll are the vb4 runtimes
[07 Jan/23:43] <RA`DIUS> thanks
[07 Jan/23:43] <RA`DIUS> and that for windows 98 correct
[07 Jan/23:43] <RA`DIUS> cos I copyed over the ones from 95 and i got runtime errors :[
[07 Jan/23:43] <Los-Guy> yeah they will work fine
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[07 Jan/23:44] <Los-Guy> or should..they do for me
[07 Jan/23:45] <RA`DIUS> k
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[08 Jan/00:02] <ViPeR3000> Can anybody help me with a network problem?? I just got two network cards for two computers. And When I have hooked them up with terminator etc etc a green light burns like it's supposed to. But when I put the card ISA in the P1 the green light goes out and the P1 locks up on boot up What do I do????
[08 Jan/00:03] <CJ^> coax cables?
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[08 Jan/00:33] <mona> hello
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[08 Jan/00:33] <mona> i'm fine
[08 Jan/00:37] <mona> does any1 here have win98 version 2 ?
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[08 Jan/00:38] <iNSaNey> anyone alive ? 
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[08 Jan/00:38] <mona> does any1 here have win98 version 2 ?
[08 Jan/00:38] <iNSaNey> need some help with networking ? 
[08 Jan/00:39] <mona> i need a serial since i've just had my HDD replaced which came withWin98 V2. Now i can't enter in my Serial, it won;t accept it
[08 Jan/00:39] <iNSaNey> for some reaon normal windows networking works fine I can ping machiens but I can't connect as in FTP from one to the other even though I have a working deamon running 
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[08 Jan/02:18] * cHaS is looking for a AVI player that accepts avi's in VCR1 ATI format, can anyone help me out?
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[08 Jan/02:19] <cHaS> has anyone use VCR1 ATI format?
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[08 Jan/02:21] <cHaS> anyone?
[08 Jan/02:21] <CJ^> sorry i dont....
[08 Jan/02:23] <AaronUK> does anyone know the advantage(s) of mirc over microsoft chat ? i've been using chat for a couple of month now..and i'm happy with it...mirc seems complicated..and i'm not sure if it's worth learning it
[08 Jan/02:23] <CJ^> MS chat is for newbies 1
[08 Jan/02:24] <CJ^> 2 its not really conformed to the IRC protocols....
[08 Jan/02:25] <AaronUK> what's the advantage of these protocols ?
[08 Jan/02:26] <CJ^> true IRC use...
[08 Jan/02:26] <CJ^> takes you from hand holding to being a user
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[08 Jan/02:50] <Kawi> howdy
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[08 Jan/09:56] <b00mer> anyone awake?
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[08 Jan/10:07] <chph> anyone here?
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[08 Jan/10:12] <Azmodan> chph, whats up
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[08 Jan/10:12] <pyrokiwi> hiyas
[08 Jan/10:13] <chph> why is my teles 16.3 isa/non pnp card working with 100 bytes/sek in Win98 SE?=
[08 Jan/10:13] <Azmodan> 100 bytes/second?
[08 Jan/10:13] <chph> yups.
[08 Jan/10:14] <Azmodan> what is telling you its at that speed?
[08 Jan/10:14] <chph> 64 000 bps
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[08 Jan/10:14] <Azmodan> what is telling you its at that speed?
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[08 Jan/10:15] <chph> all my downloads from mise etc.
[08 Jan/10:15] <chph> from about 10 diff. sites... tried it for several days
[08 Jan/10:16] <Azmodan> this is a modem?
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[08 Jan/10:16] ! JackS is known as Un4GiVeN
[08 Jan/10:16] <ohiogirl> i have a question. i have a friend that signed up with compuserve, i am trying to set up her email on netscape. where you usually enter something like "mail.cs.com" doesn't work for compuserve. can't get through to them. does anyone know what needs to go there. please. :)
[08 Jan/10:16] ! Un4GiVeN is known as JackS
[08 Jan/10:16] [chph> Azmodan: Teles 16.3 isa/non pnp ISDN card.
[08 Jan/10:17] <Azmodan> ohiogirl, I do not know.  But you may find the information you require on compuserves web site
[08 Jan/10:17] <Azmodan> chph, if its a 64k isdn then 100bytes/second would be atrocious
[08 Jan/10:17] <chph> huh?
[08 Jan/10:18] <Azmodan> chph, that is what your complaining about right?  Lack of speed
[08 Jan/10:18] <chph> yeps
[08 Jan/10:18] <ohiogirl> i tried that. and I have called them and can never get through. she got this as part of a rebate with the purchase of a computer. it came with NO information at all
[08 Jan/10:18] <Azmodan> chph, then the first people to talk to would be the ISDN providers.  I cannot help you with ISDN as I have not used it personally.
[08 Jan/10:19] <chph> jeje.. thnx anyway
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[08 Jan/10:19] <Heyll> hey
[08 Jan/10:19] <Heyll> anyone awake?
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[08 Jan/10:19] <Azmodan> hi Heyll 
[08 Jan/10:20] <Heyll> How do I change icons on programs?
[08 Jan/10:20] <Azmodan> Heyll, you can change the icons on the shortcuts, is this what you want?
[08 Jan/10:20] <Heyll> yeah
[08 Jan/10:21] <Azmodan> Heyll, ok.  Right click the shortcut.  Click on Properties from the menu that comes up.  Click the Change Icon button and go from there
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[08 Jan/10:23] <Azmodan> wb pyro
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[08 Jan/10:23] <pyrokiwi> thanx
[08 Jan/10:23] <pyrokiwi> i thought my dad needed help but he didnt
[08 Jan/10:24] + Azmodan bites his tongue on the smart comments
[08 Jan/10:24] <Azmodan> this is my don't pick on pyro day
[08 Jan/10:24] <Azmodan> enjoy it while you can!
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[08 Jan/10:24] <pyrokiwi> :) i will
[08 Jan/10:24] <Azmodan> however, I cannot vouch for other people
[08 Jan/10:25] + Azmodan is off doing the dishes
[08 Jan/10:25] <Azmodan> hold down the fort dude
[08 Jan/10:25] * pyrokiwi holds it down
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[08 Jan/10:26] <Flamey> 'lo
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[08 Jan/10:26] <Heyll> point flamey
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[08 Jan/10:44] <DonaLea> is there any that could help me, my microphone seems to be working but i can not record my voice or any other thing
[08 Jan/10:44] <DonaLea> thanks :)
[08 Jan/10:44] <DonaLea>  does any one know any thing about recording ?? in the multimedia properties i can't click on it
[08 Jan/10:47] <DonaLea> plzzzzzzzzzz i need somehelp
[08 Jan/10:48] ! Infra is known as wdfzP2516
[08 Jan/10:49] <DonaLea> cannnnnnnnn any one help me 
[08 Jan/10:49] <DonaLea> or no 1 knows how to solve my problem ??
[08 Jan/10:50] <Azmodan> DonaLea, do you have the little speaker icon in the bottom right of your screen?
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[08 Jan/10:59] <MONKEY_S> Hello I have a simple question for you all how do I make a print seperator page that displays the user name the name of the computer, date, time, and print server
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[08 Jan/11:00] ! punker111 is known as Elysian
[08 Jan/11:00] <Elysian> doh
[08 Jan/11:01] <Elysian> at friends
[08 Jan/11:01] <Elysian> -up
[08 Jan/11:01] @ mode #win98 [+o Elysian] by Mandy!biged98@chat.eskimo.com
[08 Jan/11:01] <wez> ely!
[08 Jan/11:01] <wez> want some snow?
[08 Jan/11:01] <Elysian> ?
[08 Jan/11:01] <Elysian> not really
[08 Jan/11:01] <Elysian> want some rain?
[08 Jan/11:01] <wez> sure..
[08 Jan/11:01] <Elysian> heh
[08 Jan/11:02] <Elysian> stupid rain
[08 Jan/11:02] <Elysian> hmm\
[08 Jan/11:02] <Elysian> what happened to the-bot?
[08 Jan/11:03] <MONKEY_S> Hello I have a simple question for you all how do I make a print seperator page that displays the user name the name of the computer, date, time, and print server
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[08 Jan/11:04] <wez> which bot?
[08 Jan/11:04] <Elysian> Premier Win98 Tech-Help-N-Chat Channel|NO:Warez,Files,/MSG's,Cussing,Keys,etc (look.4.new.info.bot.here)
[08 Jan/11:04] <Elysian> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[08 Jan/11:04] <Elysian> doh
[08 Jan/11:04] <Elysian> info bot... the-bot is a info bot...w as in here for a while...
[08 Jan/11:05] [wez> azmodan: explain losguy
[08 Jan/11:06] <Elysian> ?
[08 Jan/11:06] * Elysian is lost but thats okie:)
[08 Jan/11:07] <wez> just renamed for awhile
[08 Jan/11:07] <wez> looks like az but its not, its a bot.... :P
[08 Jan/11:08] <MONKEY_S> hi can someone help me with the seperator page plez
[08 Jan/11:08] <wez> i dont know what youre trying to do...
[08 Jan/11:09] <Elysian> monkey: like for a network of comps so you know who's print it whose?
[08 Jan/11:09] <MONKEY_S> yes
[08 Jan/11:10] <MONKEY_S> that is what I am looking to do
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[08 Jan/11:22] <Elysian> hi
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[08 Jan/11:22] <MONKEY_S> Elysian  hi
[08 Jan/11:22] <Elysian> -up
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[08 Jan/11:24] <MONKEY_S> so can you help me out with the seperator page
[08 Jan/11:25] <Elysian> no
[08 Jan/11:25] <Elysian> is this for a office?
[08 Jan/11:26] <MONKEY_S> no it is not for an office
[08 Jan/11:26] <Elysian> network?
[08 Jan/11:26] <MONKEY_S> yes a network
[08 Jan/11:27] <Elysian> tell the people who wanna print to make the seperator themselves then!:)
[08 Jan/11:27] <MONKEY_S> ok
[08 Jan/11:27] <MONKEY_S> bye
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[08 Jan/11:27] <Azmodan> grrrrr
[08 Jan/11:27] <Elysian> hehe
[08 Jan/11:27] <pyrokiwi> wat?
[08 Jan/11:27] <pyrokiwi> i missed that
[08 Jan/11:27] <Elysian> how many times did he ask?
[08 Jan/11:27] <Azmodan> I won't help him
[08 Jan/11:27] <Elysian> neither would i
[08 Jan/11:27] <pyrokiwi> hehe i seee
[08 Jan/11:27] <Elysian> :)
[08 Jan/11:28] <CJ^> ntfaq.com would have helped that out...
[08 Jan/11:28] <pyrokiwi> watd he want?
[08 Jan/11:28] <pyrokiwi> ahha nt problem
[08 Jan/11:28] <Elysian> cj: oh well... he got rather annoying
[08 Jan/11:28] <CJ^> th speperator page has to be done on the server side.. for the answer he wanted
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[08 Jan/11:28] <CJ^> he one of those??
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[08 Jan/11:28] <CJ^> :PP
[08 Jan/11:28] <MrWolf> heypeople
[08 Jan/11:28] <Elysian> hi mrwolf
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[08 Jan/11:29] <MrWolf> does anybody know where i can get the full install version of quicktime 4?
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[08 Jan/11:29] <pyrokiwi> hiya MrWolf
[08 Jan/11:29] <pyrokiwi> buy it
[08 Jan/11:29] <Azmodan> MrWolf, www.apple.com probably
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[08 Jan/11:30] <MrWolf> yeah i know. it's an active installation file. i need a url for the full download.
[08 Jan/11:31] <Azmodan> MrWolf, try something like www.download.com then
[08 Jan/11:31] <CJ^> download.com?
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[08 Jan/11:31] <CJ^> winfiles.com
[08 Jan/11:31] <CJ^> yeap  its there too...
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[08 Jan/11:32] <Azmodan> MrWolf, its even on ftp.apple.com/Quicktime/software/QuickTime
[08 Jan/11:33] <Azmodan> (I think)
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[08 Jan/11:57] <Raph2000> hi there.
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[08 Jan/11:57] <Raph2000> Any Free NTFS Program for Win98  so I can Use both FAT And NTFS ?
[08 Jan/11:57] <pyrokiwi> hiya Raph2000
[08 Jan/11:58] <CJ^> ntfaq.com
[08 Jan/11:58] <CJ^> bhs.org
[08 Jan/11:58] <CJ^> try those sites..
[08 Jan/11:58] <CJ^> but  mostly what ive seen.. is fat32 for NT
[08 Jan/11:58] <CJ^> not NTFS for win98
[08 Jan/11:59] <Raph2000> yeah...same here.
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[08 Jan/12:06] <Kawi> howdy
[08 Jan/12:06] <G_Blazer> Greets All...
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[08 Jan/12:06] <Kawi> anyone going on this evening?
[08 Jan/12:06] <CJ^> 3pm?
[08 Jan/12:06] <Kawi> 6pm here 
[08 Jan/12:07] <G_Blazer> Does anyone here know of a screensaver that works with the dual display function of Win98???
[08 Jan/12:07] <ThAmsTeR> 00,06 am here
[08 Jan/12:07] <Raph2000> 6pm here
[08 Jan/12:08] <G_Blazer> So I can see the same Screensaver on both screens...\
[08 Jan/12:08] ! SwatBRB is known as Swatty
[08 Jan/12:08] <Kawi> anyone here have winamp?
[08 Jan/12:08] <G_Blazer> I do...
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[08 Jan/12:12] <esteem> how can i add more buffers?
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[08 Jan/12:22] <rod_> hello
[08 Jan/12:22] <rod_> fien
[08 Jan/12:22] <rod_> fine
[08 Jan/12:22] <rod_> u?
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[08 Jan/12:22] <rod_> hello
[08 Jan/12:22] <rod_> sorry
[08 Jan/12:22] <rod_> haha i knew it was a  remote
[08 Jan/12:24] <rod_> My Compaq has a Kingston 32mb SDRAM Dimm.....i don't have $$ to buy kingston ram...can i use a non-kingston 32mb SDRAM dimm with the kingston one?
[08 Jan/12:26] <rod_> any1 here?
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[08 Jan/13:24] <j3ss1> .
[08 Jan/13:24] <reebok> ,
[08 Jan/13:25] <j3ss1> .
[08 Jan/13:25] <reebok> ,
[08 Jan/13:26] <j3ss1> . . 
[08 Jan/13:26] <reebok> too complex for me
[08 Jan/13:26] <j3ss1> sorry
[08 Jan/13:27] <j3ss1> colourz
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[08 Jan/13:29] <Big`Ed> -op
[08 Jan/13:30] @ mode #win98 [+o Big`Ed] by Tribble!biged98@chat.eskimo.com
[08 Jan/13:33] <j3ss1> ll
[08 Jan/13:33] <j3ss1> hi
[08 Jan/13:33] <Big`Ed> hi
[08 Jan/13:33] * Big`Ed is lagged
[08 Jan/13:34] <j3ss1> ,
[08 Jan/13:36] <reebok>  <<ÐêtóÑ8®>> Ping reply for Big`Ed: 49 Sec
[08 Jan/13:36] <Big`Ed> oh NO!  Hi ree
[08 Jan/13:36] <j3ss1> [Big`Ed PING reply]: 53 secs
[08 Jan/13:38] <reebok> hey ed
[08 Jan/13:38] <Big`Ed> hows trix?
[08 Jan/13:38] <Big`Ed> servers switch! time
[08 Jan/13:39] < SignOff: Big`Ed!BigEd@12-201.009.popsite.net (<<ÐêtóÑ8®>> v4.01 Digital Damnation Edition.)
[08 Jan/13:39] <reebok> good
[08 Jan/13:39] <reebok> mailed UT app yesterday
[08 Jan/13:39] <reebok> yup
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[08 Jan/13:40] <reebok> wb
[08 Jan/13:40] @ mode #win98 [+v Big`Ed] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[08 Jan/13:41] <Big`Ed> thx
[08 Jan/13:41] ! ^^Maab^^ is known as Guybrush
[08 Jan/13:41] <reebok>  <<ÐêtóÑ8®>> Ping reply for Big`Ed: 21 Sec
[08 Jan/13:41] <j3ss1> 9
[08 Jan/13:41] <Big`Ed> this is a little better
[08 Jan/13:41] <reebok> 5 now
[08 Jan/13:41] <Big`Ed> so hows trix tonight all?
[08 Jan/13:42] <reebok> pretty good
[08 Jan/13:42] <reebok> mailed UT app yesterday
[08 Jan/13:42] <j3ss1> trix?
[08 Jan/13:42] <Big`Ed> trix are for YOU kids
[08 Jan/13:42] <reebok> trix = things
[08 Jan/13:42] * Big`Ed is the elder
[08 Jan/13:42] <j3ss1> eds turning trix?
[08 Jan/13:42] <reebok> not for rabbits
[08 Jan/13:42] <Big`Ed> haha
[08 Jan/13:42] <CJ^> hptpht
[08 Jan/13:42] <CJ^> Ed
[08 Jan/13:42] <CJ^> interviews...
[08 Jan/13:42] <CJ^> MS
[08 Jan/13:42] <CJ^> tuesday
[08 Jan/13:42] <reebok> YES!
[08 Jan/13:42] <reebok> MS MS MS
[08 Jan/13:43] <reebok> go cj, go cj
[08 Jan/13:43] <CJ^> IM group though  hehe
[08 Jan/13:43] <Big`Ed> !!! - volt or ms ?
[08 Jan/13:43] <CJ^> Volt actaully..
[08 Jan/13:43] <Big`Ed> hehe
[08 Jan/13:43] <reebok> IM as in MSN?
[08 Jan/13:43] <Azmodan> hi guys
[08 Jan/13:43] <CJ^> but.. IM is paying more.. supposedly..
[08 Jan/13:43] <reebok> heh, volt
[08 Jan/13:43] <CJ^> MS IM...
[08 Jan/13:43] <CJ^> yeah
[08 Jan/13:43] <reebok> sweet
[08 Jan/13:43] <reebok> dev or what?
[08 Jan/13:43] <CJ^> dev??
[08 Jan/13:43] <CJ^> me
[08 Jan/13:43] <Big`Ed> reebok how goest the scholership chases - any leads?
[08 Jan/13:43] <CJ^> HA
[08 Jan/13:43] <CJ^> test
[08 Jan/13:43] <reebok> I got a $2,000 one to IU
[08 Jan/13:44] <Big`Ed> don't help if you don't go
[08 Jan/13:44] <reebok> cool a paid beta tester
[08 Jan/13:44] <reebok> pretty much
[08 Jan/13:44] <j3ss1> i had a 4k to temple
[08 Jan/13:44] <Big`Ed> get in on bill boy's new hardware line
[08 Jan/13:44] <Big`Ed> 4k rox
[08 Jan/13:44] <j3ss1> yeh wish i took it
[08 Jan/13:44] <reebok> hey az
[08 Jan/13:44] ! WitchCrft is known as FreshUp
[08 Jan/13:45] <Big`Ed> hola Azmodan!
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[08 Jan/13:46] <Big`Ed> hi kiwi
[08 Jan/13:46] <pyrokiwi> hiya
[08 Jan/13:47] <Big`Ed> . (reebok joke)
[08 Jan/13:47] <Big`Ed> Two men are talking at work Monday morning.
[08 Jan/13:47] <Big`Ed> "What did you do this weekend?"
[08 Jan/13:47] <Big`Ed> "Dropped hooks into water."
[08 Jan/13:47] <Big`Ed> "Fishing, eh?"
[08 Jan/13:47] <Big`Ed> "No, golfing."
[08 Jan/13:47] <Big`Ed> .
[08 Jan/13:48] ! FreshUp is known as WitchCrft
[08 Jan/13:48] <reebok> heheh
[08 Jan/13:48] <reebok> you know
[08 Jan/13:48] <reebok> I stopped
[08 Jan/13:48] <reebok> I don't play anymore
[08 Jan/13:48] <Big`Ed> then you took up fishing with your experience?
[08 Jan/13:48] <pyrokiwi> lol
[08 Jan/13:49] <reebok> we got out in the gulf sometimes
[08 Jan/13:49] <pyrokiwi> hmmm there was a netsplit i see
[08 Jan/13:49] <reebok> it's fnu
[08 Jan/13:49] <reebok> fun too
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[08 Jan/13:53] <Big`Ed> wb splitboy
[08 Jan/13:53] <pyrokiwi> it wasnt a split i had lag
[08 Jan/13:53] <Big`Ed> want a lag-pill?
[08 Jan/13:54] * pyrokiwi wonders if Big`Ed hit his head
[08 Jan/13:54] <Big`Ed> well - i am not on for long tonight
[08 Jan/13:54] <pyrokiwi> blow
[08 Jan/13:54] <Big`Ed> have a work function to attend
[08 Jan/13:55] <CJ^> :P
[08 Jan/13:55] <pyrokiwi> hehe poor u
[08 Jan/13:55] <CJ^> Boeing lacky
[08 Jan/13:55] <Big`Ed> hehe
[08 Jan/13:55] <CJ^> <whip <whip>
[08 Jan/13:55] <Big`Ed> Volt-Jolt
[08 Jan/13:55] <Big`Ed> wannabe
[08 Jan/13:55] <reebok> haha
[08 Jan/13:55] <reebok> hehehe
[08 Jan/13:55] <CJ^> Linux Lover!!!!
[08 Jan/13:55] * Big`Ed thinks that might be worth putting on the glovers over
[08 Jan/13:55] <pyrokiwi> hmmm i luv linux so what
[08 Jan/13:55] <CJ^> hehe
[08 Jan/13:55] <Big`Ed> but he knows your talking about reebok
[08 Jan/13:55] <reebok> :)
[08 Jan/13:55] <CJ^> *** CTCP VERSION reply from pyrokiwi: mIRC32 v5.6 K.Mardam-Bey<< loves linux he says  hehe
[08 Jan/13:56] * pyrokiwi gets very confused so he goes back to programming his script
[08 Jan/13:56] <reebok> maybe he's using wine
[08 Jan/13:56] <reebok> I tried that once
[08 Jan/13:56] <reebok> didn't get it to work
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[08 Jan/13:56] <CJ^> naah
[08 Jan/13:56] <Big`Ed>  <<LósGüyPB&J>> v4.01  Digital Dalmation Dog Edition.
[08 Jan/13:56] <reebok> 102 dals is coming out
[08 Jan/13:56] <reebok> it's blank
[08 Jan/13:56] <reebok> no spots
[08 Jan/13:56] <pyrokiwi> hm,,,,
[08 Jan/13:56] <Big`Ed> hehe
[08 Jan/13:56] <Big`Ed> Mandy is a dalmation
[08 Jan/13:57] <reebok> I had one
[08 Jan/13:57] <reebok> sptty
[08 Jan/13:57] <reebok> spotty
[08 Jan/13:57] <reebok> pretty original if I do say so myself
[08 Jan/13:57] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm i wonder what is wrong with undernets server
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[08 Jan/13:59] <sendkeys> hello
[08 Jan/13:59] @ mode #win98 [+v sendkeys] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[08 Jan/13:59] <sendkeys> :)
[08 Jan/13:59] <sendkeys> anyone here
[08 Jan/13:59] * Big`Ed reads the TOPIC
[08 Jan/14:00] <Big`Ed> (part about NO: keys
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[08 Jan/14:00] <Azmodan> lol
[08 Jan/14:00] <Azmodan> you scared him off
[08 Jan/14:00] <reebok> well two people have said stuff so far
[08 Jan/14:00] <reebok> so you can make a guess that there are at least two people here
[08 Jan/14:01] <reebok> nice
[08 Jan/14:01] <reebok> heh
[08 Jan/14:01] <reebok> darn
[08 Jan/14:02] <reebok> 41 megs in 3 minutes
[08 Jan/14:02] <Big`Ed> (found on reebok's college application:)
[08 Jan/14:02] <Big`Ed> I M a tru beleever in hour edukashun sistum.
[08 Jan/14:02] <Big`Ed> .
[08 Jan/14:02] <reebok> heh
[08 Jan/14:02] <Big`Ed> well - time for me to jam out
[08 Jan/14:03] <reebok> have fun
[08 Jan/14:03] <Big`Ed> you guys keep an eye on SPARKY
[08 Jan/14:03] <Big`Ed> (aka: CJ^ VOLT boy)
[08 Jan/14:03] <reebok> hhehe
[08 Jan/14:03] <pyrokiwi> hehehe
[08 Jan/14:04] < SignOff: Big`Ed!BigEd@12-201.009.popsite.net (<<ÐêtóÑ8®>> v4.01 Digital Damnation Edition.)
[08 Jan/14:05] <pyrokiwi> hehe that sendkeys guy followed me and asked me if i hav a bootdisk 4 windows
[08 Jan/14:05] <reebok> heh
[08 Jan/14:06] <pyrokiwi> then i told him no u can make ur own and he left
[08 Jan/14:06] <reebok> hehe
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[08 Jan/14:12] <Antillies> hello
[08 Jan/14:12] <Antillies> its going good. 
[08 Jan/14:12] @ mode #win98 [+v Antillies] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[08 Jan/14:13] <pyrokiwi> hiya Antillies
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[08 Jan/14:13] <IronFist> Hi!
[08 Jan/14:13] @ mode #win98 [+v IronFist] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[08 Jan/14:13] <IronFist> I need some tech help
[08 Jan/14:13] <pyrokiwi> wat with?
[08 Jan/14:13] <IronFist> anybody around?
[08 Jan/14:14] <IronFist> My computer
[08 Jan/14:14] <pyrokiwi> wats wrong?
[08 Jan/14:14] <IronFist> running Windows 98
[08 Jan/14:14] <IronFist> I need help closing my ports against hackers, ive heard about it, but dont know how to do it, anybody know how to help me?
[08 Jan/14:14] <Antillies> thers your problem ironfist.
[08 Jan/14:14] <pyrokiwi> hmmmmm
[08 Jan/14:15] <pyrokiwi> i detect a hint of envy from a win95 user
[08 Jan/14:15] <IronFist> what?
[08 Jan/14:15] <reebok> haha
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[08 Jan/14:15] <SLeX> aye
[08 Jan/14:15] <reebok> everyone say hi to da man
[08 Jan/14:15] @ mode #win98 [+v LosGuy] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[08 Jan/14:15] <SLeX> can somone help me???
[08 Jan/14:15] <IronFist> hello?
[08 Jan/14:15] @ mode #win98 [+v SLeX] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[08 Jan/14:15] <CJ^> get Conseal, or blackice or another app of that nature to help out 
[08 Jan/14:16] <IronFist> Ive tried conseal, thought it was a piece of ****
[08 Jan/14:16] <SLeX> can somone help me???
[08 Jan/14:16] <IronFist> fine, Azmodan
[08 Jan/14:16] <reebok> conseal is one of the best
[08 Jan/14:16] <CJ^> yeap
[08 Jan/14:16] <reebok> that's prolly why you hated it
[08 Jan/14:16] <SLeX> well when i connect to ftpz i get this message 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls (699 bytes). and usually it goes passed it and then shows me the files but in like 99% of the ftpz i connect to it freezes at 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls (699 bytes). then disconects and muh friends can connect to the same one no probz, please help thanks
[08 Jan/14:16] <reebok> because it can get real annoyinh
[08 Jan/14:16] <CJ^> it supposedly is one of the best...
[08 Jan/14:16] <reebok> annoying
[08 Jan/14:17] <reebok> norton just released a security app
[08 Jan/14:17] <reebok> norton internet security 2000
[08 Jan/14:17] <IronFist> hhmmm
[08 Jan/14:18] <CJ^> yeah they bought out a comapny that made a free NAT
[08 Jan/14:18] <SLeX> well when i connect to ftpz i get this message 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls (699 bytes). and usually it goes passed it and then shows me the files but in like 99% of the ftpz i connect to it freezes at 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls (699 bytes). then disconects and muh friends can connect to the same one no probz, please help thanks
[08 Jan/14:18] <reebok> @guard
[08 Jan/14:18] <IronFist> I tried the demo version of conceal, you have to pay for the real version dont ya?
[08 Jan/14:18] <reebok> they bought out I thought
[08 Jan/14:20] <IronFist> ok
[08 Jan/14:20] <IronFist> well
[08 Jan/14:20] <IronFist> thanks a bunch
[08 Jan/14:20] <IronFist> see ya later
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[08 Jan/14:21] <Antillies> to be honest i don't really care for windows 98.  or any version of windows for that matter.
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[08 Jan/14:22] <reebok> to be honest I have no idea why you think we care
[08 Jan/14:23] <Antillies> just thought i'd let you know. 
[08 Jan/14:23] <CJ^> then.... why hang ut in tow #win channels??
[08 Jan/14:23] ! ^AnG3L^ is known as ^AnG|afk
[08 Jan/14:23] <reebok> fun facts
[08 Jan/14:24] <CJ^> so whats yer beef wiht Win then??
[08 Jan/14:25] <LosGuy> oh he is probably just another <yawn> boring linux newbie
[08 Jan/14:25] <reebok> heh
[08 Jan/14:25] <reebok> they're usually more adamant
[08 Jan/14:26] <Antillies> I'm going to switch over to linux soon. 
[08 Jan/14:26] <reebok> of course this could be the "cool" approach
[08 Jan/14:26] <LosGuy> oh not even a newbie yet haha ok well have fun
[08 Jan/14:26] <CJ^> LOL
[08 Jan/14:26] <reebok> apparently there isn't enough space on my 17 gig to extract 500 megs
[08 Jan/14:26] <CJ^> soon
[08 Jan/14:26] <CJ^> whats holding ya back..
[08 Jan/14:26] <CJ^> to lame to learn?
[08 Jan/14:26] <Antillies> No i just don't have the money to go out a buy it right now. 
[08 Jan/14:26] <reebok> download it
[08 Jan/14:26] <pyrokiwi> money?
[08 Jan/14:26] <pyrokiwi> i got it 4 35kiwi with a book
[08 Jan/14:27] <reebok> hehe
[08 Jan/14:27] <CJ^> 6$\
[08 Jan/14:27] <pyrokiwi> 35kiwi - 17us
[08 Jan/14:27] <CJ^> rh 6.1 6$  
[08 Jan/14:27] <CJ^> $15 with a bool
[08 Jan/14:27] <CJ^> er book
[08 Jan/14:27] <CJ^> next lam excuse
[08 Jan/14:27] ! ^AnG|afk is known as ^AnG3L^
[08 Jan/14:27] <Antillies> $6 eh?  I just saw at furture shop for like $40
[08 Jan/14:27] <LosGuy> 1.99 at cheapbytes
[08 Jan/14:28] <CJ^> yeap
[08 Jan/14:28] <CJ^> there ya go
[08 Jan/14:28] <reebok> www.cheapbytes.com
[08 Jan/14:28] <reebok> dang he beat me
[08 Jan/14:28] <CJ^> no ne says ya have to buy the full retail 
[08 Jan/14:28] <CJ^> goto a book store..
[08 Jan/14:28] <CJ^> get RH unleased..
[08 Jan/14:28] <pyrokiwi> thats where i got mine
[08 Jan/14:28] <CJ^> or any other book that has RH or any other linux distro in it...
[08 Jan/14:29] <CJ^> so fed up with win...  but ya cant find anything else to use....
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[08 Jan/14:30] <CJ^> tater tot boy left...:PPP
[08 Jan/14:30] <Antillies> I'm going to try out win2000 then if i don't like i'll get linux.
[08 Jan/14:30] <CJ^> ?
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[08 Jan/14:30] <CJ^> well if ya dont like windows  what makes ya think your gonna lie NT?
[08 Jan/14:30] <reebok> that's a pretty hefty purchase
[08 Jan/14:31] <CJ^> er lke
[08 Jan/14:31] <CJ^> ack  LIKE...
[08 Jan/14:31] <Antillies> I don't know CJ.. 
[08 Jan/14:31] <Antillies> I just hear NT is supposed to be better. 
[08 Jan/14:31] <CJ^> well maybe address what you dont like about windows then...
[08 Jan/14:31] ! ChiwiGal is known as ChiwiOut
[08 Jan/14:31] <CJ^> if you cant maintain windows  linux is gonna kick yer butt...
[08 Jan/14:32] <CJ^> so.. you dont even know wht you want from an OS then...
[08 Jan/14:32] <CJ^> your just guessing
[08 Jan/14:33] <Antillies> I want an OS that doesnt' crash me all the time. 
[08 Jan/14:33] <LosGuy> my win98 almost never crashes (and I have crashed my linux box before)
[08 Jan/14:33] <reebok> it doesn't crash on me
[08 Jan/14:33] <CJ^> win doesnt crash on me all the time...
[08 Jan/14:33] <CJ^> i can maintain it...
[08 Jan/14:34] <CJ^> and if you think Linux doesnt crash  yer in fer a world of hurt the first time ya compile a kernel the wrong way
[08 Jan/14:34] <Antillies> I do everything i can to maintain windows but it crashes on me at least once a day. 
[08 Jan/14:34] <CJ^> then step back and ask yerself what your doing wrong...
[08 Jan/14:35] <CJ^> what are you overclcokgin..
[08 Jan/14:35] <CJ^> what crap hardware do you have installed..
[08 Jan/14:35] <Antillies> I'm not overclockin anything.. Yet. 
[08 Jan/14:35] <CJ^> what drivers are causing what...
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[08 Jan/14:36] <CJ^> well. bub  no OS takes to OC'n kindly...
[08 Jan/14:36] <CJ^> none
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[08 Jan/14:42] <mrgone> well my other ricoh is goin back to the company
[08 Jan/14:42] <mrgone> ill be cdr and cdrw-less for 30 working days
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[08 Jan/14:43] <LosGuy> oh now mrgone
[08 Jan/14:43] <reebok> oh dear
[08 Jan/14:43] <mrgone> or untill my newer ricoh gets back
[08 Jan/14:43] <CJ^> oh no
[08 Jan/14:43] <CJ^> thast just so........ wrong
[08 Jan/14:43] <reebok> hehe
[08 Jan/14:43] <CJ^> collection plate folks..
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[08 Jan/14:44] <CJ^> aww shoot he left...
[08 Jan/14:46] <reebok> imagine that
[08 Jan/14:47] <mrgone> oh i got my cell phone today, and quite frankly... it kicks azz
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[08 Jan/15:24] <nsonx> what's the difference between Conseal Private Desktop and Coneal PC Firewall?
[08 Jan/15:24] <LosGuy> the first is a simpler version
[08 Jan/15:24] <reebok> I don't remember now but their website says
[08 Jan/15:24] <LosGuy> meant for home users
[08 Jan/15:24] <nsonx> ok  thanx
[08 Jan/15:24] <reebok> cause I read about it a bit ago
[08 Jan/15:24] <reebok> np
[08 Jan/15:25] <nsonx> ahh  i need it for just one pc running Win98
[08 Jan/15:25] <nsonx> no netweork
[08 Jan/15:25] <nsonx> network
[08 Jan/15:25] <reebok> ok
[08 Jan/15:25] <CJ^> Coseal PC Firewall
[08 Jan/15:25] <CJ^> works well for one or more i think...
[08 Jan/15:26] <nsonx> aah ok  PC Firewall is also for one pc
[08 Jan/15:26] <CJ^> yeap
[08 Jan/15:26] <nsonx> both cost the same  i don't know why they have 2
[08 Jan/15:26] <CJ^> differnt features
[08 Jan/15:26] <LosGuy> ack... 
[08 Jan/15:27] <LosGuy> the first is a simplified version is all
[08 Jan/15:27] <CJ^> one locks the desktop so no one can get at it if you dont want them to
[08 Jan/15:27] ! Fruity is known as Wenus
[08 Jan/15:27] <CJ^> the other portects you whiel your online...
[08 Jan/15:27] <nsonx> oh  so for Security the PC Firewall is better
[08 Jan/15:27] <reebok> like a ss password sprta
[08 Jan/15:27] <reebok> sorta
[08 Jan/15:27] <nsonx> oh  PC Firewall is for online
[08 Jan/15:27] <CJ^> well for security online...
[08 Jan/15:27] <nsonx> aahh ok   thanx
[08 Jan/15:27] <CJ^> it protects the pc from intruders trying to get in
[08 Jan/15:28] <reebok> they still try
[08 Jan/15:28] <reebok> heh
[08 Jan/15:28] <reebok> it keeps them from getting there though (if you work it right)
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[08 Jan/15:30] <nsonx> i guess it'll keep low level hackers out
[08 Jan/15:30] <nsonx> oh  ok Losguy
[08 Jan/15:30] <LosGuy> ouch lag lag lag
[08 Jan/15:32] <nsonx> ok guys  thanx alot  i need to take a break  too much stress
[08 Jan/15:32] <nsonx> take care   thanx
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[08 Jan/16:20] <boboobbbo> does anyone know the file name to the win 98 startup screen?
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[08 Jan/16:21] <Azmodan> `op LifeBlood 
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[08 Jan/16:22] <Azmodan> `op lifeblood
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[08 Jan/16:29] <Quiver> anyone awake to help me?
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[08 Jan/16:30] <Quiver> shit, c'mon.. someone must be here to help..
[08 Jan/16:31] <Azmodan> Quiver, watch the language
[08 Jan/16:31] <Azmodan> what can I do to help you today?
[08 Jan/16:32] <Quiver> ..thanx..
[08 Jan/16:32] <Quiver> probably a comon question.. but..
[08 Jan/16:32] <Quiver> no i aint... 
[08 Jan/16:32] <Quiver> wierd.. anyway... the network login thingy..
[08 Jan/16:32] <Quiver> how do i get rid of it?
[08 Jan/16:33] <Azmodan> Quiver, look in your c:\windows for files with the extension of PWL
[08 Jan/16:33] <Quiver> right..
[08 Jan/16:33] <Azmodan> delete all of them except the one for dial up networking (RNA.PWL I believe)
[08 Jan/16:34] <Azmodan> then restart your computer
[08 Jan/16:34] <Azmodan> when it asks for login and password just give it a login name
[08 Jan/16:34] <Azmodan> no password
[08 Jan/16:34] <Azmodan> it will ask you to verify just click ok
[08 Jan/16:34] <Azmodan> that should stop it
[08 Jan/16:34] <Quiver> great, thanx.. big help.. I am usually good at this kinda thing but this has been driving me nuts..
[08 Jan/16:35] <Quiver> appriciate it, l8r.
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[08 Jan/16:39] <Elysian> hi
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[08 Jan/16:39] <Azmodan> `lo
[08 Jan/16:39] <Elysian> -up
[08 Jan/16:39] @ mode #win98 [+o Elysian] by Mandy!biged98@chat.eskimo.com
[08 Jan/16:39] <Elysian> can you help me out?
[08 Jan/16:40] <Elysian> i'm at my friends and he just got a Elsa Erazor II Riva TNT (not TNT2) and the drivers won't install right
[08 Jan/16:40] <Elysian> ...
[08 Jan/16:40] <Elysian> it sucks
[08 Jan/16:41] <Azmodan> dang
[08 Jan/16:41] <Elysian> every time he boots it says it installs the Standard PCI VGA adapter
[08 Jan/16:41] <Azmodan> did you remove the old drivers first?
[08 Jan/16:41] <Elysian> the sis drivers?
[08 Jan/16:41] <Elysian> eww^^^
[08 Jan/16:41] <Elysian> :(
[08 Jan/16:41] <Elysian> i hate sis with a passion
[08 Jan/16:41] <Azmodan> I take it you did not
[08 Jan/16:41] <Elysian> heh
[08 Jan/16:41] <Azmodan> do a find
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[08 Jan/16:42] <Elysian> they weren't int he hardware thing:)
[08 Jan/16:42] <Elysian> ok
[08 Jan/16:42] <Elysian> gimme a se
[08 Jan/16:42] <Elysian> c
[08 Jan/16:42] <Azmodan> look for files containt sis in c:\windows\inf
[08 Jan/16:42] <Azmodan> s/containt/containing
[08 Jan/16:42] <Elysian> ok
[08 Jan/16:42] <Elysian> all sis 6326 files are gone
[08 Jan/16:43] <Azmodan> remove drvidx.bin too
[08 Jan/16:43] <Azmodan> or whatever it was called
[08 Jan/16:43] <Azmodan> from c:\windows I think
[08 Jan/16:43] <Elysian> yeah
[08 Jan/16:43] <Azmodan> remove all trace of the eliza drivers too
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[08 Jan/16:45] <StarLyght> hello
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[08 Jan/16:46] <Quiver> was that you who helped me amsterdam?
[08 Jan/16:46] <StarLyght> whoever it was who helped me with my modem problem thanks a lot! it worked!
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[08 Jan/16:47] <Azmodan> Quiver, I think it was me
[08 Jan/16:47] <Riff-Raff> I have a 3Com US Robotics Voice Faxmodem PCI and it won't work if I don't have USB enabled in my BIOS, problem is, my pc crashes if I have USB enabled.  When I disable it, the modem can't find a dial tone....
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[08 Jan/16:47] <Goth25> Can anyone tell me how to configure windows98 to for specific monitor timings?  I assume I have to make a custom monitor.inf .. also games don't seem to care what refresh and monitor information you have set - they blindly use VESA modes ... can that be changed or is windows just too damn stupid?
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[08 Jan/16:48] <Azmodan> Goth25, how can windows be blamed for games useing VESA modes?
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[08 Jan/16:49] <Goth25> The API structures of windows are very poor - they just throw stuff together.  Why should a user application be allowed to directly change hardware modes?  Isn't that what DirectX is for?  Why doesn't DirectX obey monitor settings?
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[08 Jan/16:49] <Azmodan> Goth25, that still doesn't explain you equating VESA with windows
[08 Jan/16:50] <Goth25> By providing a consistant API and usage guidelines and not allowing user programs to change modes, they could really impove things
[08 Jan/16:50] <Azmodan> Goth25, as to a user application being able to directly change modes you can't really stop them.  Anyone can get at the underlying hardware
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[08 Jan/16:51] <Elysian> thanx az:) shoulda thunk of takin off the sis drivers:)
[08 Jan/16:51] <Elysian> laterz
[08 Jan/16:51] [Goth25> Azmodan: I have very specific refresh rates configured, and it seems DirectX games don't obey them - what is the point of monitor drivers if half the API doesn't use it.
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[08 Jan/16:51] <Goth25> The question is how can I make the programs obey it anyway
[08 Jan/16:51] @ mode #win98 [+v pauldies] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[08 Jan/16:51] <Azmodan> Goth25, thats a question for the techo's at microsoft
[08 Jan/16:52] <Azmodan> Goth25, as to forcing the programs to obey, I don't think you'll have any luck
[08 Jan/16:52] <Goth25> and also create a custom monitor.inf file to fine-tune the monitor timings
[08 Jan/16:52] <Goth25> microsoft?   Pay them $100/hr or whatever they charge?
[08 Jan/16:52] <Goth25> they can ... nevermind
[08 Jan/16:52] <Azmodan> Goth25, yeah but they don't
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[08 Jan/16:53] <Goth25> well ... does anyone know what method most games use to change modes?  Is it BIOS or a Direct X call?
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[08 Jan/16:53] <Azmodan> Goth25, it really depends on the game, if its a game that requires directx then it will probably use directx to changes modes
[08 Jan/16:54] <Goth25> if its BIOS I can write a BIOS wrapper set the modes I want, if its direct X ... I dunno what to do
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[08 Jan/16:54] <Goth25> Crap - I have no idea how to hack the internals of DirectX ... but if they use DirectX .. why wouldn't the DirectX API honor the monitor settings?  Isn't that what the API is for?
[08 Jan/16:55] <Azmodan> Goth25, have you looked at the directx api at all?
[08 Jan/16:56] <Azmodan> becuase that would be the place to find out how they change modes
[08 Jan/16:56] <Goth25> no - I haven't wanted to or needed to, until now
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[08 Jan/16:57] <Azmodan> they would be your best starting point I believe
[08 Jan/16:57] <Goth25> I assume I'll have to order developer docs from Microsoft and pay dearly for that?  And then find out that microsoft just doesn't care about monitor settings when using DirectX I bet - they assume a multisync that can do all VESA modes
[08 Jan/16:58] <Azmodan> Goth25, just download them
[08 Jan/16:58] <Goth25> from?
[08 Jan/16:58] <Azmodan> Goth25, check at www.microsoft.com/directx
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[08 Jan/16:59] <Azmodan> they should have plenty to keep you interested
[08 Jan/16:59] ! grid is known as rod_
[08 Jan/17:00] <Goth25> Last time I went to microsoft.com I had to turn on javascript just to use the search features .. then they disabled my BACK button using the javascript - I wasn't impressed ... but I'll check it out anyway
[08 Jan/17:00] ! rod_ is known as grid
[08 Jan/17:00] <Goth25> Hmm .. I wonder if DirectX 7 has better support for monitors .. using 6.1 now
[08 Jan/17:00] <Azmodan> k
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[08 Jan/17:01] <Azmodan> back laterish
[08 Jan/17:01] <Goth25> anyone else awake
[08 Jan/17:01] <Goth25> ?
[08 Jan/17:01] <Azmodan> not that I know of
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[08 Jan/17:05] <walkndude> Hi LosGuy
[08 Jan/17:05] <Los`Guy> hi walkndude
[08 Jan/17:07] <walkndude> What's new?
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[08 Jan/17:07] @ mode #win98 [+v Big_Dad] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[08 Jan/17:08] <Big_Dad> hello, I just removed a program from Add/Remove programs on my control panel and for some reason it removed all other entries for programs i installed, so i can't install them.  anyone know how to get the list back?
[08 Jan/17:09] <Los`Guy> what program Big_Dad?
[08 Jan/17:09] <Big_Dad> i removed Logic Works 4.0 
[08 Jan/17:09] <Los`Guy> hmm you could try two things that I can think of
[08 Jan/17:10] <Los`Guy> one is install tweakUI and see if you can repair it with that...or run scanreg /restore and install a previous version of the registry
[08 Jan/17:11] <Big_Dad> ok...  anything.  i had entries for like 30 other programs, and if i ever wanted to take them off i'd have to manually do it leaving unused dlls on my drive and unneccisarty registry keys
[08 Jan/17:11] <Los`Guy> assuming that info is in the registry
[08 Jan/17:11] <Los`Guy> Big_Dad maybe not... lots of programs have an uninstaller in the folder you installed them to
[08 Jan/17:11] <Los`Guy> ie the ones that say unwise.exe
[08 Jan/17:12] <Big_Dad> yeah but not all of them...  I am pretty sure there is a designated file that stores all of the information for Add/Remove though.
[08 Jan/17:13] <walkndude> scanreg /restore  will be the best bet IMO
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[08 Jan/17:15] <Big_Dad> hey thanks guys, i'll try that.
[08 Jan/17:15] <walkndude> you did reboot after removing the program?
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[08 Jan/17:16] <Big_Dad> yeah
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[08 Jan/17:16] <Big_Dad> the programs were removed from the list though before rebooting
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[08 Jan/17:17] <walkndude> yeah I've seen that before but rebooting and all was back to normal
[08 Jan/17:18] <Big_Dad> not for me...  i did a soft reboot though, think that really matters?
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[08 Jan/17:18] <walkndude> wouldn't hurt to try
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[08 Jan/17:18] <devilDigg> hello everyone
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[08 Jan/17:18] <walkndude> hi
[08 Jan/17:18] <LosGuy> hi devilDigg
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[08 Jan/17:20] <`Muff`> 'lo all
[08 Jan/17:20] <walkndude> hello Muff`
[08 Jan/17:20] <devilDigg> hey muff, hey los, hey walkndude, hey az, hey big_dad
[08 Jan/17:20] <`Muff`> hey King fan :)
[08 Jan/17:20] <devilDigg> and mandy of course
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[08 Jan/17:20] <Big_Dad> hi there devilDigg
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[08 Jan/17:21] <`Muff`> Where's W?
[08 Jan/17:21] <LosGuy> split
[08 Jan/17:21] <LosGuy> been gone all night
[08 Jan/17:21] <`Muff`> Hmmmm
[08 Jan/17:21] <LosGuy> (and HI! hehe)
[08 Jan/17:21] <`Muff`> Hola Los :)
[08 Jan/17:23] ! Tigerbrb is known as Tigerleah
[08 Jan/17:23] <`Muff`> I'll ask this in here... anyone ever run across a memory leach (ie: memory slowly disappears with each ap opened)?  It just started about 2 weeks ago and I've done a full format and reload since then...
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[08 Jan/17:25] <LosGuy> yeah mIRC used to have memory leak problems
[08 Jan/17:25] * `Muff` uses Pirch, but it happens even while disconnected :(
[08 Jan/17:25] <walkndude> and so di ICQ
[08 Jan/17:25] <walkndude> did
[08 Jan/17:26] <LosGuy> heck win95a did
[08 Jan/17:26] * `Muff` avoids ICQ like the plague ;)
[08 Jan/17:26] <`Muff`> 98SE
[08 Jan/17:26] <devilDigg> muff: why?
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[08 Jan/17:28] <`Muff`> Somehow waving a flag around advertising my open unprotected ports to numerous 12 year old wannabe hackers kinda turns me off, devil :)
[08 Jan/17:28] <devCodin> heh
[08 Jan/17:28] <LosGuy> `Muff` do you have a network?
[08 Jan/17:28] <devCodin> well i understand your reasons..
[08 Jan/17:29] <`Muff`> dude, nowonder.com sent me RC2 pro and server.... I couldn't even get it to load correctly ;)
[08 Jan/17:29] <`Muff`> Nope, Los...
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[08 Jan/17:31] <just^1> good evening all
[08 Jan/17:31] <`Muff`> I think my problem was the multiple vid cards, but if it won't work for me, I ain't gonna fix it for Bill ;)
[08 Jan/17:31] <`Muff`> Hola just
[08 Jan/17:31] <just^1> is windows 2000 going to be postponed?
[08 Jan/17:32] <`Muff`> The 9x "Personal" version is a ways off, just
[08 Jan/17:32] ! Grem|in is known as fire^fish
[08 Jan/17:33] <`Muff`>  <*=*=*=*=*=  BEER RIGHT  BACK!!!!!  =*=*=*=*=*>
[08 Jan/17:33] <walkndude> I guess everyone got through without any Y2K problems
[08 Jan/17:33] <just^1> nope
[08 Jan/17:34] <Big_Dad> my father's office runs on a Novell network and it reset to 1986
[08 Jan/17:34] <just^1> my dell was on as it passed
[08 Jan/17:34] <just^1> a constant beep came from the twer
[08 Jan/17:34] <just^1> tower even
[08 Jan/17:35] <walkndude> did it beep at mid-night?
[08 Jan/17:35] <just^1> yes
[08 Jan/17:35] <just^1> sound or modem i guess
[08 Jan/17:35] <just^1> had to reboot and it was ok
[08 Jan/17:36] <walkndude> maybe it was just celebrating the New Year
[08 Jan/17:37] <just^1> no it was probably bills win 98 saying ill get you people this year!
[08 Jan/17:37] <Big_Dad> i partied like it was 1999
[08 Jan/17:38] <Big_Dad> Y2k was nothing, just something to get people to buy more canned goods or whatever.  I just filled my gas tank so I wouldn't have to wait in long lines.
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[08 Jan/17:39] <devCodin> heh
[08 Jan/17:39] <`Muff`> Actually my firewall failed, I had to get an updated version.  It crapped out December 31st, though...
[08 Jan/17:39] <`Muff`> hiyas fodd
[08 Jan/17:39] <lldfodd> Can anyone please let me know how I can change the drive letters of my IDE disks, for example to swap d: and e:
[08 Jan/17:39] <lldfodd> Hi Muff :)
[08 Jan/17:40] <`Muff`> Hard drive partitions or CD drives, fodd?
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[08 Jan/17:40] <LosGuy> lldfodd change where they are on your IDE cables (and make sure you get the master / slave right)
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[08 Jan/17:40] <LosGuy> err ide ports
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[08 Jan/17:41] <lldfodd> One is the extended partition, I wanna keep it drive D
[08 Jan/17:41] <lldfodd> I want the other Primary partition of the other drive to go e:
[08 Jan/17:41] <`Muff`> Adding a new hard drive?
[08 Jan/17:41] <walkndude> Losguy you catch the FSU/Va-Tech game?
[08 Jan/17:42] <LosGuy> no have not turned the TV on all week in fact
[08 Jan/17:42] <Big_Dad> i flipped between that game and tom green
[08 Jan/17:42] <`Muff`> That was a GREAT game for about 3 quarters...
[08 Jan/17:42] <lldfodd> Yes :) I hate to reassign every shortcl, all links, etc..
[08 Jan/17:42] <lldfodd> big mess
[08 Jan/17:43] <Big_Dad> what are you using to partition?
[08 Jan/17:43] <walkndude> good game...FSU has amazing speed
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[08 Jan/17:43] <Big_Dad> VT has the best team next year though, freshman quarterback???  There whole team is still young I believe.
[08 Jan/17:44] <Big_Dad> I gotta stick with PSU though!
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[08 Jan/17:44] <walkndude> I saw one poll where Neb is pick #1
[08 Jan/17:44] <`Muff`> fodd, when you add the new drive, don't make a new primary DOS partiton on it, just make extended partitions...
[08 Jan/17:45] <Big_Dad> DOS partition as in FAT16?
[08 Jan/17:45] <`Muff`> Nope, FAT32 works as well
[08 Jan/17:45] <lldfodd> Hey, this is a good Idea Muff :) I will try
[08 Jan/17:46] <`Muff`> No drive has to have a primary DOS partition except the boot...
[08 Jan/17:46] <lldfodd> Will partition Magic do a nice job to reallocate the files through particions?
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[08 Jan/17:46] <bonqer> hey whats up
[08 Jan/17:47] <Big_Dad> i partitioned my primary drive to hold linux, NT, and 98 partitions.  any idea why it insists on a 7 meg partition at the end of the drive?  no matter how i resize, it has to hold that 7 megs at the end in it's own extended partition.
[08 Jan/17:47] <`Muff`> Drive letters are assigned by primary DOS (1 per drive) then extended (logical) drives per drive...
[08 Jan/17:47] ! ChiwiOut is known as FLC
[08 Jan/17:47] <`Muff`> Dad, pick one and go to that help group ;)
[08 Jan/17:48] <Big_Dad> ahhh ok, it's not that big of a prob.  i just store my source code on that drive anyway.
[08 Jan/17:49] <`Muff`> It may be a BIOS limitation as well, Dad...
[08 Jan/17:49] <Big_Dad> maybe, I know there is an upgrade for my BIOS out there speaking of, I should look for it.
[08 Jan/17:50] <`Muff`> Are you using EZ Drive or Disk Manager or something to set it up, Dad?
[08 Jan/17:50] <lldfodd> Thank you very much pals, Thanks Muff!!! Its a good idea and I will try it :)
[08 Jan/17:51] <`Muff`> :)  np fodd 
[08 Jan/17:51] <Big_Dad> `Muff`: I use Partition Magic for my partitions.
[08 Jan/17:51] <`Muff`> I use presize... freeware ;)
[08 Jan/17:51] <lldfodd> Can I make only an extended partition with F-Disk?
[08 Jan/17:51] <`Muff`> Yup, fodd
[08 Jan/17:51] <Big_Dad> Can you repartition with FDISK if you have existing data on your drive?
[08 Jan/17:52] <lldfodd> I also have Partition Magic :) Okay :))) I will give it a try verrrrry soon LOL
[08 Jan/17:52] <`Muff`> No, Dad.  Fdisk wipes everything out
[08 Jan/17:53] <devCodin> bb tommorow
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[08 Jan/17:53] <Big_Dad> `Muff`: thought so
[08 Jan/17:54] <Big_Dad> why is everyone in this channel given helper status?  is there a BOT controlling it?
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[08 Jan/17:54] <GillesV> Can someone help me with Partition magic 4?
[08 Jan/17:54] <`Muff`> Many bots :)
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[08 Jan/17:54] <lldfodd> Hehe, its nice to have a + :)
[08 Jan/17:54] <`Muff`> Hi gilles
[08 Jan/17:55] <Big_Dad> I feel important.
[08 Jan/17:55] * lldfodd toooo LOL
[08 Jan/17:55] <`Muff`> Gilles, I don't use it.  Sorry :(
[08 Jan/17:56] <GillesV> thanks
[08 Jan/17:56] <LosGuy> whats wrong GillesV?
[08 Jan/17:56] <GillesV> I need to put one partitioned drive into another one
[08 Jan/17:57] <LosGuy> what version of partition magic?
[08 Jan/17:57] <Big_Dad> 4
[08 Jan/17:57] <GillesV> 4
[08 Jan/17:58] <LosGuy> and you just want to copy the drives?
[08 Jan/17:58] <walkndude> this is a shame, I work third shift and I can't hold my eyes open 11:00 pm
[08 Jan/17:58] <walkndude> nite all
[08 Jan/17:58] <Big_Dad> nite
[08 Jan/17:58] <LosGuy> nite walkndude
[08 Jan/17:58] <lldfodd> nite dude
[08 Jan/17:58] <`Muff`> cya dude :(
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[08 Jan/17:59] <`Muff`> hey chieftan
[08 Jan/17:59] <GillesV> LosGuy - well I want to take drive g: and put it in with drive e:
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[08 Jan/18:00] <`Muff`> W!
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[08 Jan/18:00] <Elysian> hi
[08 Jan/18:00] <LosGuy> GillesV... just use xcopy
[08 Jan/18:00] <`Muff`> hey Ely!
[08 Jan/18:00] <GillesV> everything that is in drive g: and the space
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[08 Jan/18:00] <GillesV> LosGuy what about the space?
[08 Jan/18:01] <LosGuy> I dont understand GillesV
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[08 Jan/18:01] <Elysian> az: that TNT works incredibly well for a PCI!:
[08 Jan/18:01] <GillesV> well I no longer need drive e: at all, I want to scrap it and use it's space in drive g:  Ok I think I know how to do that.
[08 Jan/18:01] <Elysian> :)
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[08 Jan/18:02] <Elysian> doing half life in 1280x960 at 35-40 fps!
[08 Jan/18:02] <CountMech> Hi
[08 Jan/18:02] <Elysian> Open GL
[08 Jan/18:02] <CountMech> cool
[08 Jan/18:02] <`Muff`> Hiyas mech
[08 Jan/18:02] <Elysian> that was really awesome... for 89 i think i will buy one
[08 Jan/18:02] <CountMech> Hey Muff
[08 Jan/18:02] <Elysian> GTA2 ran at 35+ FPS at 1125x???
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[08 Jan/18:02] <Elysian> 11521
[08 Jan/18:02] <Elysian> 1152
[08 Jan/18:02] <Elysian> even
[08 Jan/18:03] <LosGuy> good GillesV hehe cuz ..while it soulds simple... I dont fully understand your setup 
[08 Jan/18:03] <CountMech> Is it true that win95 performs better then 98?
[08 Jan/18:03] <`Muff`> Not at all, mech...
[08 Jan/18:03] <Elysian> ?
[08 Jan/18:03] <Elysian> its not?
[08 Jan/18:03] <LosGuy> define performs
[08 Jan/18:03] ! Infra is known as loak
[08 Jan/18:04] <Elysian> cause my little bro's comp flies with 98(compared to 95 that is:P)
[08 Jan/18:04] ! loak is known as Infra
[08 Jan/18:04] <LosGuy> 98 is a bigger OS than 95... needs more computer
[08 Jan/18:04] <lldfodd> Have a great Evening pals, thanks 4 ur help! :)
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[08 Jan/18:04] <Elysian> true
[08 Jan/18:04] <LosGuy> but it is much more stable
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[08 Jan/18:04] <CountMech> Well, besides the stuff I hear, my new win98 comp still crash as much if not more then my old 95 sys.
[08 Jan/18:04] <LosGuy> has better support
[08 Jan/18:04] <Elysian> count: what type o comp?
[08 Jan/18:04] <Elysian> home built?
[08 Jan/18:05] * LosGuy hardly ever crashes...
[08 Jan/18:05] <Trask> how do I enable windows update?
[08 Jan/18:05] <CountMech> I'm currently using PII366 on 98
[08 Jan/18:05] <Elysian> countmech: laptop?
[08 Jan/18:05] <CountMech> how you guess?
[08 Jan/18:05] <Elysian> 366 only seemed really popular on laptops that i have seen
[08 Jan/18:05] <Elysian> Dell has a laptop with a PIII 500!
[08 Jan/18:05] <`Muff`> '98 uses >64mb of RAM more efficiently, has FAT 32 conversion support, features Windows Update and Disk Cleanup... I could go on ;)
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[08 Jan/18:06] <CountMech> are you saying that 64 megs of RAM isn't enough?
[08 Jan/18:06] <Elysian> DX7 has a T&L engine!:)
[08 Jan/18:06] <Elysian> doh
[08 Jan/18:06] <Elysian> that doesn't pertain to 98!
[08 Jan/18:06] <Elysian> :)
[08 Jan/18:06] <Elysian> count: with 98 yes
[08 Jan/18:07] <Elysian> i had 128 on my old 133
[08 Jan/18:07] <CountMech> yes
[08 Jan/18:07] <CountMech> T&L?
[08 Jan/18:07] <LosGuy> its enough
[08 Jan/18:07] <Elysian> honestly it was faster than this 200
[08 Jan/18:07] <Elysian> Texture and Lightinh
[08 Jan/18:07] <CountMech> oh
[08 Jan/18:07] <Elysian> lighting
[08 Jan/18:07] <LosGuy> it just will handle more
[08 Jan/18:07] <Elysian> my 133 was a good performer
[08 Jan/18:07] <CountMech> that what I had for a while too and that was pretty good
[08 Jan/18:07] <Elysian> specially when i oced it:)
[08 Jan/18:08] <CountMech> ?
[08 Jan/18:08] <Big_Dad> there's gonna be machines running one gigahert in the near future
[08 Jan/18:08] <Elysian> overclocked for the unabbreviated people
[08 Jan/18:08] <CountMech> I see!
[08 Jan/18:08] * `Muff` was happy with 200 mhz until I started adding monitors... those extra vid cards kinda eat up cpu cycles
[08 Jan/18:08] <LosGuy> they already are
[08 Jan/18:08] <Elysian> big_dad: there is already a kryotech version
[08 Jan/18:08] <LosGuy> see tomshardware.com
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[08 Jan/18:08] <Elysian> yeah
[08 Jan/18:08] <Big_Dad> yeah running on a -40celsius regrigerant unit on it.
[08 Jan/18:09] <Elysian> -55 last i checked
[08 Jan/18:09] <Big_Dad> refrigerant
[08 Jan/18:09] <CountMech> oh, wow
[08 Jan/18:09] <Big_Dad> i thought they were up to -40, no idea...  you could be right, but doesn't matter to me, I'm not getting it hehehe
[08 Jan/18:09] <Elysian> i would if i had the money but it'd be cheaper to wait till 1 gigaherz actually comes out
[08 Jan/18:10] <GillesV> How do I change drive letters?
[08 Jan/18:10] <Elysian> a pIII 700 is like 200 more than a athlon 700 at fry's
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[08 Jan/18:10] <Elysian> athlon outperforms it
[08 Jan/18:10] <CountMech> can someone explain the registry to me and what it has to do w/ activeX?
[08 Jan/18:10] <Big_Dad> is athlon the K7?
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[08 Jan/18:11] <Elysian> yeah
[08 Jan/18:11] <Elysian> doh
[08 Jan/18:11] <Big_Dad> CountMech: The registry needs to contain the ActiveX information to use the control.  you can register controls with regsrv32 i believe
[08 Jan/18:13] <CountMech> whats regsrv32?
[08 Jan/18:13] <Big_Dad> an executable file that comes with windows, i think it's either in the windows folder or the system...
[08 Jan/18:13] <Big_Dad> it will register the control into the windows registry and then you can use it.
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[08 Jan/18:14] <CountMech> cool
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[08 Jan/18:15] <Shawn^> how map drive in win98?
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[08 Jan/18:16] <LosGuy> right click on the share and choose map
[08 Jan/18:16] <Big_Dad> CountMech: sorry!  it's called regsvr32
[08 Jan/18:16] <Big_Dad> in your Windows\SYSTEM folder
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[08 Jan/18:19] <Shawn^> my comp is weird
[08 Jan/18:19] <Shawn^> the date n year is always the same when i shutdown n reboot
[08 Jan/18:19] <Shawn^> 1/1/1997
[08 Jan/18:19] <Shawn^> what's wrong?
[08 Jan/18:19] <Elysian> shawn: look at this
[08 Jan/18:19] <Big_Dad> Y2K
[08 Jan/18:19] <Elysian> doh
[08 Jan/18:20] <Elysian> everyone automatically goes to y2k!
[08 Jan/18:20] <Elysian> :)
[08 Jan/18:20] <Elysian> shawn: try this
[08 Jan/18:20] <Big_Dad> haha
[08 Jan/18:20] <Elysian> run msconfig
[08 Jan/18:20] <Elysian> then go to the autoexec.bat tab
[08 Jan/18:20] <Elysian> and look to see if there is a command that says "date 1/1/1997
[08 Jan/18:20] <Shawn^> nope
[08 Jan/18:21] <LosGuy> what is starting there or in your startup folder?
[08 Jan/18:21] <LosGuy> cmos battery is dying is another possiblility
[08 Jan/18:21] <Elysian> yeah
[08 Jan/18:22] <Shawn^> what can be wrong?
[08 Jan/18:22] <Elysian> well
[08 Jan/18:22] <Elysian> do you still   have msconfig open?
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[08 Jan/18:22] <Shawn^> yes
[08 Jan/18:23] <LosGuy> yer not running any programs that try to cheat expiration dates are you?
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[08 Jan/18:23] <CountMech> Is Linux better then Windows?
[08 Jan/18:23] <Elysian> well
[08 Jan/18:23] <LosGuy> for what CountMech?
[08 Jan/18:23] <Shawn^> losguy nope
[08 Jan/18:23] <Elysian> depends on what your function is
[08 Jan/18:23] <Big_Dad> windows is better for novices
[08 Jan/18:23] <Elysian> shawn: check the startup tab
[08 Jan/18:24] <Shawn^> it's just that the year is always 1997
[08 Jan/18:24] <LosGuy> windows is better for alot of things
[08 Jan/18:24] <Elysian> for anything that says 1/9/1997
[08 Jan/18:24] <Shawn^> although i did chnage the date
[08 Jan/18:24] <CountMech> hmm..interesting and linux is for the more advanced
[08 Jan/18:24] <Elysian> gamez!
[08 Jan/18:24] <Elysian> :)
[08 Jan/18:24] <LosGuy> it depends on what you use your system for
[08 Jan/18:24] <Elysian> countmech: no
[08 Jan/18:24] <CountMech> ?
[08 Jan/18:24] <Elysian> nt and 2k are very much for the more advanced
[08 Jan/18:24] <CountMech> oh, I get it
[08 Jan/18:24] <Elysian> linux doesn't come with much more than nt or 2k...
[08 Jan/18:24] <Shawn^> elysian nope too
[08 Jan/18:24] <Big_Dad> Elysian: you beta testing 2K?
[08 Jan/18:25] <Elysian> yah
[08 Jan/18:25] <CountMech> How Can I get beta 2K?
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[08 Jan/18:25] <Big_Dad> sign up at microsoft
[08 Jan/18:25] <CountMech> cool, I might do that
[08 Jan/18:25] <Big_Dad> Elysian: is the GUI much different?
[08 Jan/18:25] <GillesV> they don't need beta testers anymore, the product comes out next month
[08 Jan/18:26] <Elysian> dad: not really
[08 Jan/18:26] <Big_Dad> feb 17 i think
[08 Jan/18:26] <CountMech> How windows always crashes so f*!@en much?
[08 Jan/18:26] <Big_Dad> Elysian: you ever run Gnome?
[08 Jan/18:26] <CountMech> yeah
[08 Jan/18:26] <Elysian> its just more optimized
[08 Jan/18:26] <Elysian> dad: great graphical editor no?
[08 Jan/18:26] <Elysian> count: my windows 98 never crashed on me
[08 Jan/18:27] <Big_Dad> Elysian: The GUI for Linux, nevermind though...  Wrong channel for that.
[08 Jan/18:27] <Elysian> oh
[08 Jan/18:27] <CountMech> Ha
[08 Jan/18:27] <Big_Dad> Win98 goes down on me all the time.
[08 Jan/18:27] <Elysian> i had KDE
[08 Jan/18:27] <Elysian> win98 never crashed when i bout this mb
[08 Jan/18:27] <CountMech> I whant to try KDE but I haven't had time for linux lately
[08 Jan/18:27] <Elysian> its a FIC PT2011
[08 Jan/18:27] <Elysian> KDE is rather nice
[08 Jan/18:27] <Big_Dad> I like Ghnome alot better than KDE
[08 Jan/18:27] <Elysian> i had Openlinux which came with KDE
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[08 Jan/18:28] <Big_Dad> Ghnome=Gnome
[08 Jan/18:28] <CountMech> Elysian:what system do u have for win98?
[08 Jan/18:28] <Elysian> well
[08 Jan/18:28] <Elysian> don't got 98
[08 Jan/18:28] <Elysian> but
[08 Jan/18:28] <Elysian> i have a p200
[08 Jan/18:28] <Elysian> 64 megs ram
[08 Jan/18:28] <Elysian> s3 virge GX/DX 3d decelerator
[08 Jan/18:28] <Elysian> etc etc
[08 Jan/18:29] <CountMech> but you mentioned never crashed on you
[08 Jan/18:29] <CountMech> mentioned win98 didn't crash
[08 Jan/18:30] <Big_Dad> 98 crashes on me when i just load certain webpages
[08 Jan/18:30] <Elysian> i know
[08 Jan/18:30] <Elysian> but i don't got 98 anymore
[08 Jan/18:30] <LosGuy> dont got?
[08 Jan/18:30] <CountMech> I see, now that you have 2000
[08 Jan/18:31] <CountMech> what do you do w/ your comp?
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[08 Jan/18:35] <j3ss1> whens win2k going retail?
[08 Jan/18:36] <Big_Dad> feb 17
[08 Jan/18:36] <j3ss1> hmm
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[08 Jan/18:38] <CountMech> How do I sign up for Win2k beta, I'm at the site and everything.
[08 Jan/18:39] <LosGuy> beta is over
[08 Jan/18:40] <CountMech> ah man
[08 Jan/18:40] <CountMech> well , my dad said he could get the disk anyways
[08 Jan/18:41] <LosGuy> a month before release is a bit late to apply :P
[08 Jan/18:47] <CountMech> Well, I didn't know when they were realeaseing it, they'll probably prempt the date like they did w/ the pther realeases
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[08 Jan/18:47] <LosGuy> dunno why it is gold
[08 Jan/18:48] <Big_Dad> there will be official releases circulating before feb 17
[08 Jan/18:48] <LosGuy> (and they did push the date back once already
[08 Jan/18:48] <LosGuy> but that would be ... off topic here Big_Dad
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[08 Jan/18:49] <CountMech> they'll push it into december for all I know
[08 Jan/18:49] <CountMech> well, I gotta go, nite!
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[08 Jan/19:18] <Sobek> how do i uninstall explorer
[08 Jan/19:18] <Big_Dad> you can't
[08 Jan/19:19] <Big_Dad> manually go through a tedious process maybe, but no simple way
[08 Jan/19:20] <Sobek> how complex is it
[08 Jan/19:20] <Big_Dad> never tried it...  i did see a web page once with two methods describing how to do it though I believ.e
[08 Jan/19:21] <Sobek> ok
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[08 Jan/19:37] <MetHAD0ne>  is it true that win 98 uses 96MB of memory to run properly?
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[08 Jan/19:40] <Azmodan> MetHAD0ne, windows will use whatever you throw at it
[08 Jan/19:41] <MetHAD0ne> so, i have 128MB and it's using all of it?
[08 Jan/19:42] <Azmodan> MetHAD0ne, it will
[08 Jan/19:42] <Azmodan> MetHAD0ne, it tried to manage it intelligently
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[08 Jan/19:43] <Azmodan> MetHAD0ne, but I find programs like FreeMem to be a great help you get back the memory it steals
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[08 Jan/19:46] <rod_> HELLO
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[08 Jan/19:47] <rod_> can i run win NT worstation in my home desktop with 32 ram?
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[08 Jan/19:49] <LosGuy> gee now there is a win98 question
[08 Jan/19:50] <rod_> anyone can help me?
[08 Jan/19:50] <MetHAD0ne> doubt it dude
[08 Jan/19:50] <LosGuy> try a NT channel
[08 Jan/19:50] <rod_> mm well
[08 Jan/19:50] <rod_> another one
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[08 Jan/19:50] <rod_> nt workstation could work without nt server?
[08 Jan/19:50] <LosGuy> try a NT channel
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[08 Jan/19:50] <LosGuy> this is a windows98 channel
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[08 Jan/19:51] <LosGuy> Hi Ed
[08 Jan/19:51] <rod_> it's invite only
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[08 Jan/19:51] <LosGuy> there is more than one
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[08 Jan/19:51] <LosGuy> and the fact that it is invite only doesnt make this an NT channel
[08 Jan/19:52] * Big`Ed is lagged
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[08 Jan/19:52] <LosGuy> not to me yer not
[08 Jan/19:52] <MetHAD0ne> join #windowsnt
[08 Jan/19:52] <rod_> thnks
[08 Jan/19:52] <MetHAD0ne> no prob
[08 Jan/19:52] <LosGuy> or #NT or #winNT
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[08 Jan/19:57] <Big`Ed> hi all!
[08 Jan/19:57] <LosGuy> Hi Ed
[08 Jan/19:58] <Big`Ed> hehe - wazup?
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[08 Jan/20:15] <LosGuy> `op
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[08 Jan/20:17] <LadyReed> is  anyone here
[08 Jan/20:17] <Zeus> HUH?
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[08 Jan/20:19] <LadyReed> besides you
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[08 Jan/21:02] <SynError> is there any way that i can change the aspect ratio of an image (jpeg) so that i can see it at the same quality at full screen for example?
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[08 Jan/21:03] <LosGuy> SynError just as they told you in #help
[08 Jan/21:03] <LosGuy> and aspect can only be maintained within limits
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[08 Jan/21:03] <SynError> then that's not helping. i need to be able to do it with a prog OTHER then photoshop
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[08 Jan/21:04] <LosGuy> you can probably do it with paint shop pro
[08 Jan/21:04] <LosGuy> I dont know for sure
[08 Jan/21:04] <LosGuy> but I would suspect you can
[08 Jan/21:04] <LosGuy> the gimp would do it also
[08 Jan/21:04] <LosGuy> if you have a linux box
[08 Jan/21:06] <SynError> i'll try psp, and i got a win box
[08 Jan/21:06] <SynError> hold on
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[08 Jan/21:17] <Cooljules> the light goes out
[08 Jan/21:18] <Cooljules> in the computer the light goes out
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[08 Jan/21:18] <LosGuy> huh?
[08 Jan/21:19] <Cooljules> I was thinking of a conflict but I'm not sure
[08 Jan/21:19] <LosGuy> what computer light?
[08 Jan/21:21] <Cooljules> hehe
[08 Jan/21:21] <Cooljules> the light on the network card
[08 Jan/21:21] <LosGuy> is it loose in the slot?
[08 Jan/21:21] <LosGuy> (dont mess with it while your system is powered)
[08 Jan/21:22] <Cooljules> loose
[08 Jan/21:22] <Cooljules> it's in a ISA slot
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[08 Jan/21:24] <LosGuy> underclocking doesnt usually cause problems
[08 Jan/21:24] <LosGuy> over clocking on the other hand
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[08 Jan/21:24] <|Dv8|> this computer keeps crashing alot....first I thought it was the software...then I thought it was the harddrive..now I think it is either the memory or cpu
[08 Jan/21:25] <|Dv8|> well no this computer..the one besdie me
[08 Jan/21:25] <|Dv8|> no=not
[08 Jan/21:25] <LosGuy> hah I had a problem with my memory when I first fired this thing up (and I had cheked it
[08 Jan/21:25] <LosGuy> checked it
[08 Jan/21:25] <LosGuy> the RAM was not seated properly though...took nearly a day and 1/2 to finally figure that out
[08 Jan/21:25] <|Dv8|> welll I figured out it wasn't the software because it froze when I started to reinstall win98se
[08 Jan/21:26] <|Dv8|> it froze at 26 percent of copying files :)
[08 Jan/21:26] <LosGuy> hmmm
[08 Jan/21:26] <LosGuy> that still could be software but I would be thinking hardware too
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[08 Jan/21:27] <LosGuy> and low quality ram can be a problem even
[08 Jan/21:27] <|Dv8|> I ma trying again figuring it was the cpu and I tried changing the jumpers setting in the bios (yes I did say in the bios because thats where it is done on that computer)
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[08 Jan/21:27] <Cooljules> it's seated right
[08 Jan/21:28] <Cue_Ball> I can't seem to get this HDD to work
[08 Jan/21:28] <|Dv8|> well it's all working...I did check that..I am so worried of rining the memory that I really check it good
[08 Jan/21:28] * LosGuy has a jumperless mb too (not my celeron system though)
[08 Jan/21:29] <LosGuy> I checked mine too |Dv8|...but it was still loose
[08 Jan/21:29] <|Dv8|> I have two jumperless mbs :) a PII 333 o/ced to 366 and a celeron 400 not overclocked at all
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[08 Jan/21:29] <LosGuy> abit?
[08 Jan/21:29] <LosGuy> Cue_Ball what is the problem?
[08 Jan/21:29] <|Dv8|> my PII system works top notch
[08 Jan/21:29] <Cue_Ball> well
[08 Jan/21:29] <Cue_Ball> I hook it up right and everything
[08 Jan/21:30] <Cue_Ball> I set it to auto detect my Master and Slave
[08 Jan/21:30] <Cue_Ball> and it don't read either
[08 Jan/21:30] <LosGuy> bad cable?
[08 Jan/21:30] <|Dv8|> no..the celeron runs on a shitty mobo...I think it is SiS something....maybe that's the wrong brand name for the mobo
[08 Jan/21:30] <LosGuy> bad IDE?
[08 Jan/21:30] <LosGuy> doh port
[08 Jan/21:30] <|Dv8|> oops..didn't mean to swear....really
[08 Jan/21:30] <Aphrodite> no cussing DV8
[08 Jan/21:31] <Cue_Ball> it shouldn't be
[08 Jan/21:31] <|Dv8|> sorry..won't happen again
[08 Jan/21:31] <Cue_Ball> this PC is only a year old
[08 Jan/21:32] <LosGuy> Cue_Ball you have the master / slave settings correct on the drives?
[08 Jan/21:32] <LosGuy> and plugged into ide 1? (should still detect if on IDE 2 but you might not be looking for it there)
[08 Jan/21:32] <Cue_Ball> you mean have them hooked up right?
[08 Jan/21:33] <LosGuy> well ... each HD as a jumper on it...that tells the system if it is gonna be a master or a slave
[08 Jan/21:33] <LosGuy> on that IDE cable
[08 Jan/21:33] <|Dv8|> and most HDs have a label telling you what seetting are correct
[08 Jan/21:33] <LosGuy> also are the cables plugged in in the right direction?
[08 Jan/21:33] <Cue_Ball> Cables are correct
[08 Jan/21:34] <LosGuy> on the mb AND the drives
[08 Jan/21:34] <Cue_Ball> this on says
[08 Jan/21:34] <Cue_Ball> one
[08 Jan/21:34] <Cue_Ball> Master: C/D IN   SLAVE: C/D OUT
[08 Jan/21:35] <LosGuy> that is not ringing a bell with me...but probably does with you...
[08 Jan/21:36] <LosGuy> do you have one as master and theother as slave?
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[08 Jan/21:36] <Cue_Ball> Yes
[08 Jan/21:36] <Cue_Ball> I had them hooked up like this
[08 Jan/21:36] <LosGuy> and powered up?
[08 Jan/21:36] <Cue_Ball> yep
[08 Jan/21:36] <|Dv8|> the cd rom drive on this computer have little clips that seem to trying to hold the cd in place...they don't seem to be very effective in that so can anyone tell me what they are really for?
[08 Jan/21:37] <Cue_Ball> [motherboard]-------[master]------[slave]
[08 Jan/21:37] <LosGuy> that part is fine... it really doesnt matter which order you put them in...
[08 Jan/21:37] <Cue_Ball> hmm
[08 Jan/21:38] <LosGuy> but the jumpers need to be set properly and assuming you plugged them in correctly 
[08 Jan/21:38] <LosGuy> it shouild be working
[08 Jan/21:38] <Cue_Ball> I probably just need to mess with it some more
[08 Jan/21:38] <Azmodan> |Dv8|, they are normally used for when you put your case on its side so the the disk doesn't fall out
[08 Jan/21:39] <LosGuy> oh THOSE ahhaha I didnt know what he was talking about
[08 Jan/21:39] <Azmodan> lol
[08 Jan/21:40] <|Dv8|> who would want to run it on it's side? :)
[08 Jan/21:40] <LosGuy> Cue_Ball most HD manufacturers have jumper settings on their sites
[08 Jan/21:40] <LosGuy> if you dont have them
[08 Jan/21:40] <Cue_Ball> all right
[08 Jan/21:40] <Cue_Ball> tnx
[08 Jan/21:41] <LosGuy> |Dv8| a desktop could be stood on it side...like atower
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[08 Jan/21:42] <|Dv8|> there..win98 is installing again...wonder if it will freeze on me
[08 Jan/21:43] <|Dv8|> most mobos that take a PII and celeron cpu usually have a 100mhz bus speed right?
[08 Jan/21:44] <LosGuy> celeron runs at 66 
[08 Jan/21:44] <|Dv8|> oh
[08 Jan/21:44] <|Dv8|> I will check that out after it installs..thank you
[08 Jan/21:44] <LosGuy> over 400 P11 doses 100mhz I bleive
[08 Jan/21:45] <|Dv8|> it froze on me :(
[08 Jan/21:45] <LosGuy> does
[08 Jan/21:45] <LosGuy> might be wrong on that though
[08 Jan/21:49] <|Dv8|> are any celerons multiplier locked?
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[08 Jan/21:49] * LosGuy dont overclock
[08 Jan/21:49] <LosGuy> try tomshardware.com
[08 Jan/21:49] <LosGuy> he does alot of OC
[08 Jan/21:50] <|Dv8|> I'm not..not this one..just checking
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[08 Jan/21:53] <^russia> G'day losguy
[08 Jan/21:53] <LosGuy> hi
[08 Jan/21:53] <^russia> just called to say thanks for your help last night
[08 Jan/21:53] <|Dv8|> I will know if it is the memory really soon
[08 Jan/21:53] <LosGuy> np ^russia ...remmeber the nick not the problem though
[08 Jan/21:54] <^russia> as you suggested.it was a memory problem
[08 Jan/21:54] <LosGuy> oh yeah ...oh kewl you got it fixed?
[08 Jan/21:55] <^russia> the problem has now been resolved....for some reason the memory banks could not be populated with 4 X 16MB simms of the same make
[08 Jan/21:55] <|Dv8|> if it was a memory problem why would it seem to work great in dos but once I try to install win98 is messes up?
[08 Jan/21:55] <^russia> it took 2 X 16MB of onr brand and 2 X 16MB or another brand for some reason
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[08 Jan/21:56] <LosGuy> sometimes it is just the computer
[08 Jan/21:56] <LosGuy> and the memory is fine on another system
[08 Jan/21:56] <^russia> is this a normal happening
[08 Jan/21:57] <|Dv8|> does dos use any of the sdram memory?
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[08 Jan/21:59] <^russia> Anyway Los..i wont hog the channel..the problem is solved...thanks again for your help..much appreciated
[08 Jan/21:59] <LosGuy> np Russia
[08 Jan/21:59] <LosGuy> glad yer fixed up now
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[08 Jan/22:03] <|Dv8|> cross your fingers..it might work now :)
[08 Jan/22:03] * LosGuy sets mode +fingers_crossed
[08 Jan/22:04] <|Dv8|> lol
[08 Jan/22:04] <|Dv8|> it's already doing better than my first attempt
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[08 Jan/22:05] <TKK> anyone here know the name of the OS that is suppossed to be able to fit onto a floppy?
[08 Jan/22:05] <LosGuy> peanut linux
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[08 Jan/22:06] <TKK> where can one acquire this?
[08 Jan/22:06] <LosGuy> Search the web
[08 Jan/22:06] <|Dv8|> cool..never heard of that...I will look for that sometime :)
[08 Jan/22:06] <TKK> not a prob..thanks
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[08 Jan/22:14] <Azmodan> -op
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[08 Jan/22:15] <|Dv8|> wow..it's even making it through the part that warns you that your computer may stop responding....I figured that would have did it in right away
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[08 Jan/22:15] <LosGuy> kewl 
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[08 Jan/22:29] <|Dv8|> well...as far as i can tall it is a memory problem...cuz i just used memory that i know for sure works
[08 Jan/22:29] <|Dv8|> tall=tell
[08 Jan/22:30] <LosGuy> well ... it is good to know the problem
[08 Jan/22:30] <|Dv8|> thank you all for your help....I found the problem and that makes me happy because i been trying for 5 hours now :)
[08 Jan/22:32] <LosGuy> :)
[08 Jan/22:33] <LosGuy> good luck |Dv8|
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[08 Jan/22:34] <|Dv8|> see ya later..thanx again
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[08 Jan/22:54] <Theros_Ra> mm bl1p
[08 Jan/22:54] <bl1p> merry meet
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[08 Jan/22:55] <bl1p> anyways
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[08 Jan/22:55] <bl1p> I'm having a weird problem with windows..
[08 Jan/22:55] <LosGuy> ¿
[08 Jan/22:55] <bl1p> At certain points (undeterminable when) my screen just powers off.
[08 Jan/22:55] <bl1p> I need to reboot to get it working again, has anyone ever heard of this before?
[08 Jan/22:55] <bl1p> The power doesn't go off.. the image just appears..
[08 Jan/22:55] <LosGuy> bl1p looked for better vid drivers?
[08 Jan/22:55] ! Elly` is known as Melanie
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[08 Jan/22:56] <LosGuy> or considered changing your settings on your current 
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[08 Jan/22:56] <Theros_Ra> any have a clue how to clear out a USB driver?
[08 Jan/22:56] <bl1p> i have the most current
[08 Jan/22:57] <LosGuy> then change your res and or your refresh rate bl1p
[08 Jan/22:57] <bl1p> hmm
[08 Jan/22:57] <bl1p> it is on optimal right now
[08 Jan/22:57] <bl1p> What would you recommend?
[08 Jan/22:57] <LosGuy> look to see what your monitor can support
[08 Jan/22:57] <LosGuy> (do you have monitor drivers installed?()
[08 Jan/22:59] <bl1p> Yup
[08 Jan/23:00] <LosGuy> look to see what your monitor supports
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[08 Jan/23:23] <BAGGIO_DK> Help me
[08 Jan/23:23] <BAGGIO_DK> please
[08 Jan/23:25] <BAGGIO_DK> why can´t i change my Sound tonesas in bas and treble  ?????
[08 Jan/23:25] <BAGGIO_DK> why can´t i change my Sound tones as in bas and treble  ?????
[08 Jan/23:26] <BAGGIO_DK> they are locked in some way :o(
[08 Jan/23:26] <Azmodan> BAGGIO_DK, do you have the most recent sound drivers for your card?
[08 Jan/23:26] <BAGGIO_DK> help me 
[08 Jan/23:26] <BAGGIO_DK> hmm i gues
[08 Jan/23:26] <BAGGIO_DK> i´ll look
[08 Jan/23:27] <BAGGIO_DK> it looks fine
[08 Jan/23:28] <Azmodan> perhaps your sound card does not support those features
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[08 Jan/23:29] <BAGGIO_DK> it cant be it´s a brand new IBM
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[08 Jan/23:29] <BAGGIO_DK> sound card is called
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[08 Jan/23:30] <BAGGIO_DK> ess solo pci
[08 Jan/23:31] <BAGGIO_DK> audio-drive
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[08 Jan/23:31] @ mode #win98 [+b *!*TheBot@*.tele.dk] by LifeBlood!azmodan@phi.compinet.com
[08 Jan/23:31] < The-Bot!~TheBot@ip47-250.boaaip1.adsl.tele.dk was kicked off #win98 by LifeBlood!azmodan@phi.compinet.com (we have enough bots, please don't come back now ya here)
[08 Jan/23:31] @ mode #win98 [+v {^ping^}] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[08 Jan/23:31] <BAGGIO_DK> heheh hej ping :o)
[08 Jan/23:31] <BAGGIO_DK> So your only help is to opdate my soundcard files ?
[08 Jan/23:32] <BAGGIO_DK> ?
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[08 Jan/23:32] <Azmodan> BAGGIO_DK, thats all I can think of sorry
[08 Jan/23:32] <BAGGIO_DK> ok thanks  :o) bye bye
[08 Jan/23:33] <BAGGIO_DK> :o)
[08 Jan/23:33] <Azmodan> bye bye
[08 Jan/23:33] <BAGGIO_DK> have a nice day
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[08 Jan/23:40] @ mode #win98 [+v EsCoS] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[08 Jan/23:41] <EsCoS> THANKS
[08 Jan/23:41] ! TX-HICK is known as grid
[08 Jan/23:42] <Azmodan> EsCoS, thanks for???
[08 Jan/23:42] ! grid is known as [[|NOOK|]
[08 Jan/23:42] ! [[|NOOK|] is known as [|NOOK|]]
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[08 Jan/23:42] <Azmodan> now that was weird
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[09 Jan/00:08] <|Greeny|> plz help e
[09 Jan/00:08] @ mode #win98 [+vv |Dv8| |Greeny|] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[09 Jan/00:08] <|Dv8|> hi
[09 Jan/00:08] <|Dv8|> anyone here?
[09 Jan/00:09] <|Greeny|> i'm so desperate
[09 Jan/00:09] <|Greeny|> plz...
[09 Jan/00:09] <|Dv8|> what's wrong ?
[09 Jan/00:09] <|Greeny|> i think i had a virus, dunno, i did something and my com CRASHED and i had to format it
[09 Jan/00:09] <|Greeny|> so i started all from the beggining
[09 Jan/00:09] <|Greeny|> but my modem - 56K
[09 Jan/00:10] <|Greeny|> now running 33.600
[09 Jan/00:10] <|Greeny|> and i can't log to the internet
[09 Jan/00:10] <|Greeny|> when i install a prog it does the memory low (RAM mabe?)
[09 Jan/00:10] <|Greeny|> and i don't know what to do!!!
[09 Jan/00:10] <|Dv8|> reinstall the drivers for the modem
[09 Jan/00:10] <|Dv8|> it's not the ram
[09 Jan/00:11] <|Greeny|> i did dat already
[09 Jan/00:11] <LosGuy> conflicts?
[09 Jan/00:11] <|Greeny|> ?
[09 Jan/00:11] <|Dv8|> and don't worry about what it is telling you for the speed..that is not always right...I am running at 115,200 bps...not really but that's what it says
[09 Jan/00:12] <|Dv8|> right click my computer and them click properties
[09 Jan/00:12] <LosGuy> and how much ram does it say you have when your Right click on contol panel and choose properties?
[09 Jan/00:12] <|Greeny|> i dunno, ARG, my hole system is fucked i think
[09 Jan/00:12] <|Greeny|> 64RAM
[09 Jan/00:12] <LosGuy> |Dv8| no cussing here
[09 Jan/00:12] <|Dv8|> not me
[09 Jan/00:12] <LosGuy> doh |Greeny| no cussing
[09 Jan/00:12] <|Dv8|> him
[09 Jan/00:12] <|Dv8|>  :)
[09 Jan/00:13] <|Dv8|> lol
[09 Jan/00:13] <|Greeny|> sorry hehehe
[09 Jan/00:13] <LosGuy> any conficts there ?
[09 Jan/00:13] <|Greeny|> oh
[09 Jan/00:13] <|Greeny|> lemme check
[09 Jan/00:14] <|Greeny|> nopies
[09 Jan/00:14] <|Dv8|> LosGuy..I may have been wrong on what I thought was wrong....could a loose wire from the power supply cause it to freeze without actually cutting all power?
[09 Jan/00:14] <LosGuy> re your modem install the drivers that came with your modem
[09 Jan/00:14] <LosGuy> instead of the default win98 drivers
[09 Jan/00:14] <|Greeny|> i know
[09 Jan/00:14] <LosGuy> uh |Dv8| I guess
[09 Jan/00:15] <|Greeny|> you think i should reinstall win98?
[09 Jan/00:15] <LosGuy> that woudl be kinda odd
[09 Jan/00:15] <|Greeny|> hmmm
[09 Jan/00:15] <|Dv8|> what woudl be odd?
[09 Jan/00:15] <LosGuy> I thought you said you just did?
[09 Jan/00:15] <LosGuy> the loose wire 
[09 Jan/00:15] <|Greeny|> i had to install win98 ALL OVER AGAIN cause my hole damn computer got formatted
[09 Jan/00:16] <LosGuy> are you running antivirus?
[09 Jan/00:16] <LosGuy> are you sure it is gone?
[09 Jan/00:16] <|Greeny|> when you install a prog, it has 3 meters, 1 - file installation, 2 - hole installation, 3 - MEMORY
[09 Jan/00:16] <|Greeny|> right?
[09 Jan/00:16] <LosGuy> a virus can bring a system to its knees performancewise
[09 Jan/00:17] <|Greeny|> can a virus still stay after formatting the hole hole hole computer?
[09 Jan/00:17] <LosGuy> yes
[09 Jan/00:17] <|Greeny|> oh
[09 Jan/00:17] <|Dv8|> oh..well I found a loose wire in there and I was even told about the previous owner jiggling wires to get it to work...there are about 20 wires so I figured not all of them are power wires and it may cause it to freeze
[09 Jan/00:17] <|Greeny|> so what should i do?
[09 Jan/00:17] <LosGuy> it depends on the type of virus
[09 Jan/00:17] <LosGuy> go to avp.com
[09 Jan/00:17] <LosGuy> and dl a scanner
[09 Jan/00:17] ! angie\TV is known as angiehrmf
[09 Jan/00:17] <|Greeny|> i can't log to the internet explorer
[09 Jan/00:17] <|Dv8|> how can you get on mIRC?
[09 Jan/00:17] <|Greeny|> where/
[09 Jan/00:17] <|Greeny|> ?
[09 Jan/00:18] <|Dv8|> www.avp.com
[09 Jan/00:18] <|Greeny|> i can't log to the internet explorer
[09 Jan/00:18] <|Dv8|> then how can you log to mIRC?
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[09 Jan/00:18] <F0o> Hi
[09 Jan/00:18] @ mode #win98 [+v F0o] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[09 Jan/00:19] <F0o> Hi
[09 Jan/00:19] <|Greeny|> i dunno
[09 Jan/00:19] <|Dv8|> is the problem on the computer you are on right now?
[09 Jan/00:19] <|Greeny|> it lets me log to the irc
[09 Jan/00:19] <|Greeny|> yep
[09 Jan/00:19] <F0o> I was wondering what the best Virus Killer is these days on PC, and where to get it ?
[09 Jan/00:19] <LosGuy> you have other problems
[09 Jan/00:19] <LosGuy> avp.com
[09 Jan/00:19] <|Dv8|> well I hate to tell ya but your modem worked to get you on here
[09 Jan/00:20] <LosGuy> no it is possible dv8
[09 Jan/00:20] <LosGuy> I have seen it before
[09 Jan/00:20] <|Greeny|> ??
[09 Jan/00:20] <|Dv8|> yeah...it's not letting him anywhere else..but the modem worked nevertheless
[09 Jan/00:20] <F0o> cheers dude
[09 Jan/00:20] <|Greeny|> i know
[09 Jan/00:20] ! angiehrmf is known as deadangie
[09 Jan/00:20] <|Greeny|> slow but it works
[09 Jan/00:20] <|Greeny|> ARG!
[09 Jan/00:20] ! deadangie is known as angieboos
[09 Jan/00:21] <LosGuy> did you get that URL F0o?
[09 Jan/00:21] <LosGuy> for AVP?
[09 Jan/00:21] <|Greeny|> ):(
[09 Jan/00:22] <F0o> LosGuy: yup :) cheers, why is AVP the grestest :)
[09 Jan/00:22] <LosGuy> it just finishes at the top in recent independant tests
[09 Jan/00:22] <F0o> LosGuy: at least it's something rather than what I've got now which is nothing :)
[09 Jan/00:22] <|Greeny|> i gtg, can you give me a last advice?
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[09 Jan/00:23] <LosGuy> greeeny do you know how to use ftp?
[09 Jan/00:23] <LosGuy> from command line?
[09 Jan/00:23] <LosGuy> or can you install a ftp client?
[09 Jan/00:23] <|Greeny|> not realy
[09 Jan/00:23] <|Greeny|> i have CUTE FTO
[09 Jan/00:23] <|Greeny|> FTP]
[09 Jan/00:23] <F0o> Me thinks I have  a virus, things going very strange lately on me Win98 :)
[09 Jan/00:23] <|Greeny|> mw 1
[09 Jan/00:23] <|Greeny|> me 2
[09 Jan/00:24] <LosGuy> greeny if you decide to reninstall
[09 Jan/00:24] <|Greeny|> what with the FTP?
[09 Jan/00:24] <LosGuy> and your sure your not using a drive overlay (and need it)
[09 Jan/00:24] <|Greeny|> drive overlay?
[09 Jan/00:24] <F0o> like hotbot, when you tell it search doesn't take 10seconds to send the search info to the server, and IE5 should've be hanging for no real reason :)
[09 Jan/00:24] <LosGuy> boot from a clean boot disk and do fdisk /mbr THEN do your format
[09 Jan/00:24] <LosGuy> and you should be clean
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[09 Jan/00:25] <LosGuy> and turn the computer off after doing that for about a minute
[09 Jan/00:25] @ mode #win98 [+v zod] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[09 Jan/00:25] <LosGuy> and you should kill any virus that might haved persisted
[09 Jan/00:25] ! Mustang is known as DrMustang
[09 Jan/00:25] <F0o> LosGuy: true.. but better to try some killers on it first :)
[09 Jan/00:25] <|Dv8|> what is a drive overlay? :)
[09 Jan/00:25] <LosGuy> but most suspected virus infections usually endup being hardware or software realted and not a virus 
[09 Jan/00:26] <F0o> LosGuy: this true :)
[09 Jan/00:26] <|Greeny|> let me see, i should - do - fdisk /mbr, then reinstall win98?
[09 Jan/00:26] <LosGuy> it is software that tricks your comupter into using a HD larger than it normally could
[09 Jan/00:26] <zod> yes i just brought a diamond data 50x and it runs like all s**T my only 24x goes faster and it sometimes says cannot read device is there ne way to fix this plz help
[09 Jan/00:26] <LosGuy> ie maxtor has ezdrive and ONTRACK is another common overlay
[09 Jan/00:26] <Cue_Ball> Windows
[09 Jan/00:26] <Cue_Ball> really likes to deoptimize a PC
[09 Jan/00:26] <|Greeny|> losguy: so i should - do - fdisk /mbr, then reinstall win98?
[09 Jan/00:27] ! Cherub is known as Angel``
[09 Jan/00:27] <F0o> uhmm maybe I should get one of the Hard Drive over lays for my 60meg hd, and turn it into 60gigs :) muhahhaha
[09 Jan/00:27] <LosGuy> if you thihk you still have a virus
[09 Jan/00:27] <LosGuy> and cant get a scanner
[09 Jan/00:27] <F0o> downloading scanner now :)
[09 Jan/00:27] <|Greeny|> do what i wrote in this order?
[09 Jan/00:28] <|Greeny|> first - fdisk /mbr den reinstall?
[09 Jan/00:28] <LosGuy> 1 boot from a known clean WRITE PROTECTED boot disk
[09 Jan/00:28] <LosGuy> 2. type fdisk /mbr
[09 Jan/00:28] <LosGuy> 3 format 
[09 Jan/00:28] <LosGuy> 4 install
[09 Jan/00:28] <|Dv8|> zod what was the problem again?
[09 Jan/00:28] <|Greeny|> format???? boot?
[09 Jan/00:28] <F0o> mbr (btw) = Master Boot Record ... 
[09 Jan/00:28] <|Greeny|> ooh
[09 Jan/00:29] <LosGuy> between steps you should shut the computer down for about a minute
[09 Jan/00:29] <zod> i just brought a 50x cd rom and it is stuffing up i.e it takes about 10min to read the cd-rom and it copies at about 0.002k a sec
[09 Jan/00:29] <zod> its dimond data
[09 Jan/00:29] <F0o> zod: did it come with drivers ?
[09 Jan/00:29] <LosGuy> zod does it have DMA checked for it?
[09 Jan/00:30] ! bijzonder is known as urafruit
[09 Jan/00:30] <|Greeny|> well thanks
[09 Jan/00:30] <|Greeny|> alot
[09 Jan/00:30] <|Greeny|> bye
[09 Jan/00:30] < SignOff: |Greeny|!nlcs@slip139-92-91-245.tel.il.ibm.net (Night-Light Channel Service 2.0ª ßeta 7 ¡!NLCS¡! get it at http://www.night-light.net/nlcs/)
[09 Jan/00:30] <Cue_Ball> bye
[09 Jan/00:30] <LosGuy> greeny I would still try to get a good scanne...doh
[09 Jan/00:30] <|Dv8|> I can't exactly tell you what the problem is...but I noticed that higher speed cd rom drives suck....they go to fast and vibrate the cd so it is hard to read and you get the blue screen
[09 Jan/00:31] <Cue_Ball> I probably have 30-2000 virii on this PC
[09 Jan/00:31] <|Dv8|> anything above 24X starts to suck
[09 Jan/00:31] <F0o> 2000 being Windows 2000 right ? :)
[09 Jan/00:31] <Cue_Ball> no
[09 Jan/00:31] <Cue_Ball> hehe
[09 Jan/00:31] <F0o> j/k
[09 Jan/00:31] <LosGuy> that has been my experience also dv8...but I have seen a 40x (in an emachine of al things..that worked VERY nice
[09 Jan/00:31] <Cue_Ball> i don't mind if I have virii
[09 Jan/00:32] <Cue_Ball> but if they mess with my porn
[09 Jan/00:32] <Cue_Ball> then I go crazy on them
[09 Jan/00:32] <F0o> I do, point less cpu busy work that is being wasted that I could make use of :)
[09 Jan/00:33] <LosGuy> oh and some of them can trash your motherboard effectivly
[09 Jan/00:33] <|Dv8|> I hate my 36x was gonna trade it with this other computer I have...but it's really s****y looking and flimsy...the cd carriage moves all over the place
[09 Jan/00:33] <Cue_Ball> soon as I get me some jumpers I am gonna stick this hard drive on here and format them both
[09 Jan/00:34] <LosGuy> the jumpers should have been included with the drive
[09 Jan/00:34] <|Dv8|> I need to buy a new one when i buy my cd burner or I will get alot of coasters :)
[09 Jan/00:34] <Cue_Ball> got it from a friend
[09 Jan/00:34] <LosGuy> ahh
[09 Jan/00:34] <Cue_Ball> and he didn't have the curtisy to include them
[09 Jan/00:34] <|Dv8|> you mean you dont have those little plastic things?
[09 Jan/00:34] <F0o> bend the pins together :)
[09 Jan/00:34] <Cue_Ball> hehehe
[09 Jan/00:35] <Cue_Ball> do like a car
[09 Jan/00:35] <Cue_Ball> foil fuse
[09 Jan/00:35] <F0o> hehe
[09 Jan/00:35] <|Dv8|> yeah...jerry-rig it up :)
[09 Jan/00:35] <Cue_Ball> hehe
[09 Jan/00:35] <Cue_Ball> nah
[09 Jan/00:35] <F0o> stick the mains into --- er no no that wasn't it :)
[09 Jan/00:35] <Cue_Ball> I want it to be almost right
[09 Jan/00:37] <|Dv8|> if I lived near ya I would give you some jumper connector things..I have a whole bunch of em' and only need 2 on my board :)
[09 Jan/00:38] <Cue_Ball> considering I have to mount it where my 5 1/4 would go
[09 Jan/00:38] <F0o> same
[09 Jan/00:38] <Cue_Ball> I live in BFE
[09 Jan/00:38] <zod> it came with this disk
[09 Jan/00:38] <Cue_Ball> no radioshack for 60 miles
[09 Jan/00:38] <zod> but for the autoexec
[09 Jan/00:38] <F0o> Cue_Ball: where do you live, under a tree ? :) 
[09 Jan/00:39] <|Dv8|> where is BFE?
[09 Jan/00:39] <Cue_Ball> bum f*cked egypt
[09 Jan/00:39] <|Dv8|> I live in Nova Scotia, Canada.
[09 Jan/00:39] <Cue_Ball> ahh
[09 Jan/00:39] <|Dv8|> you serious?
[09 Jan/00:39] <Cue_Ball> no
[09 Jan/00:39] <F0o> I live in New Zealand,
[09 Jan/00:39] <|Dv8|> lol
[09 Jan/00:40] <Cue_Ball> I live in Missouri
[09 Jan/00:40] <Cue_Ball> USA
[09 Jan/00:40] * F0o throws Cue_Ball a jumper, ------------------------------------------- damn missed ! ...
[09 Jan/00:40] <Cue_Ball> heh
[09 Jan/00:40] ! urafruit is known as bijzonder
[09 Jan/00:40] <|Dv8|> what does BFE stand for?
[09 Jan/00:41] <Cue_Ball> bum f*cked egypt
[09 Jan/00:41] <|Dv8|> oh
[09 Jan/00:41] <F0o> X)
[09 Jan/00:41] ! LosGuy is known as LosQ3
[09 Jan/00:42] <Cue_Ball> hehe
[09 Jan/00:43] <Cue_Ball> I am thinking of dropping windows and getting linux tho
[09 Jan/00:43] <F0o> don't blame you
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[09 Jan/00:43] <F0o> I ain't installing 2000 no matter what machine I get
[09 Jan/00:43] <|Dv8|> I have linux...gotta learn how to use it someday :)
[09 Jan/00:43] <Cue_Ball> hehe
[09 Jan/00:43] <Cue_Ball> that too Dv8
[09 Jan/00:44] <Cue_Ball> Windows98 screams kill my Kernel baby!!!
[09 Jan/00:44] <F0o> linux ain't hard, you've just got to read, and understand
[09 Jan/00:44] <|Dv8|> I am installing 2000 just to see how it runs...
[09 Jan/00:44] <F0o> what on ?
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[09 Jan/00:44] <|Dv8|> on a PII 333 with 192mb
[09 Jan/00:45] @ mode #win98 [+v UlTimABuG] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[09 Jan/00:45] <|Dv8|> I need 64 more to meet the requirement don't I? :)
[09 Jan/00:45] <F0o> uhmmm, I've seen in on a p2 300/32megs -- it was BAD! worse than win95 on a 386 
[09 Jan/00:45] <F0o> 128 actually :)
[09 Jan/00:45] <Cue_Ball> heh
[09 Jan/00:46] <Cue_Ball> I wan't BeOS
[09 Jan/00:46] <Cue_Ball> err
[09 Jan/00:46] <|Dv8|> I thought it was 256
[09 Jan/00:46] <Cue_Ball> want
[09 Jan/00:46] <F0o> don't we all
[09 Jan/00:46] <Cue_Ball> heehe
[09 Jan/00:47] ! Tigerleah is known as TigerDoze
[09 Jan/00:47] <F0o> just wish I could find it to take it for a test drive
[09 Jan/00:48] < SignOff: zod!zod@ae03053.powerup.com.au (Leaving)
[09 Jan/00:48] <Cue_Ball> download it
[09 Jan/00:48] <F0o> uhmm where ?
[09 Jan/00:48] <Cue_Ball> but that is illegal
[09 Jan/00:48] <F0o> hehe
[09 Jan/00:48] <|Dv8|> not if you don't tell anybody
[09 Jan/00:48] <|Dv8|> :)
[09 Jan/00:48] <F0o> infected: Win95.Marburg.b
[09 Jan/00:49] <F0o> trouble is finding it in the first place..
[09 Jan/00:49] <|Dv8|> my old grade 8 teacher always told us when we had a test that we were allowed to cheat as long as we didn't get caught
[09 Jan/00:50] <Cue_Ball> true
[09 Jan/00:50] <F0o> uhmm.. :)
[09 Jan/00:52] * F0o "I am going to kill Marburg, right now which on of you 4.x billion people in the world made it ? hands up!"
[09 Jan/00:53] <Cue_Ball> any of you into console emulation?
[09 Jan/00:53] < SignOff: UlTimABuG!Guinip@paris11-nas1-48-14.dial.proxad.net (http://village.cyberbrain.com/technopole/peur2rien [LE script mIRC])
[09 Jan/00:54] <F0o> only if you consider UAE - (amiga) a console
[09 Jan/00:54] <Cue_Ball> amiga ruls
[09 Jan/00:54] <F0o> indeed
[09 Jan/00:54] <Cue_Ball> I like SNES and NES
[09 Jan/00:55] <|Dv8|> I have 469 snes roms
[09 Jan/00:55] <F0o> I used to like playing that until I lost it in my layers and layers of cds
[09 Jan/00:55] <Cue_Ball> heh
[09 Jan/00:55] <Cue_Ball> |Dv8| you should open a server up at #roms
[09 Jan/00:56] <|Dv8|> when I get better access I will...I am collecting them
[09 Jan/00:57] <Cue_Ball> ahh
[09 Jan/00:57] <Cue_Ball> I need to get me a connector and turn my SNES pad into a PC pad
[09 Jan/00:58] <|Dv8|> I have a few arcade games too...bubble bobble is one of my favorites...lol
[09 Jan/00:59] <|Dv8|> get a sidewinder..it works good for what you wnat it for :)
[09 Jan/00:59] <Azmodan> don't knock bubble bobble
[09 Jan/00:59] <Azmodan> my wife and I used to play that together on our atari
[09 Jan/00:59] <Cue_Ball> that game is fine
[09 Jan/00:59] <Cue_Ball> qbert is the $hit tho
[09 Jan/01:00] <Cue_Ball> man
[09 Jan/01:00] <Cue_Ball> this sucks
[09 Jan/01:00] <|Dv8|> I'm not knocking it...I'm serious bubble bobble is good game..but the arcade version is the BEST
[09 Jan/01:00] <Cue_Ball> this sucks worse than anything that has ever sucked before
[09 Jan/01:01] <|Dv8|> make it to level 20 without dying to get the secret diamond room
[09 Jan/01:01] <Cue_Ball> my O2 emu won't run TypeandTell!
[09 Jan/01:01] <|Dv8|> then every ten levels you go without dying gets you into another diamond room
[09 Jan/01:02] ! L0s3R is known as lip`
[09 Jan/01:02] <|Dv8|> O2? what's that?
[09 Jan/01:03] <Cue_Ball> Odyssey 2
[09 Jan/01:03] <F0o> uhmm why is the AVP, scanner not killing 
[09 Jan/01:04] <Azmodan> F0o, becuase your not running the DOS version
[09 Jan/01:04] <F0o> Arr I see bbl
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[09 Jan/01:04] <Cue_Ball> the y2k messed my PC up
[09 Jan/01:05] <Cue_Ball> all those boot up errors are gone :(((((((((
[09 Jan/01:05] <Cue_Ball> hehe
[09 Jan/01:05] <Azmodan> nah, lack of foresight messed up your PC
[09 Jan/01:05] <Cue_Ball> my PC runs ok I guess
[09 Jan/01:05] <Cue_Ball> hasn't failed me yet
[09 Jan/01:07] <Azmodan> I have 3 here that I did nothing to and they all run fine
[09 Jan/01:07] <Cue_Ball> heh
[09 Jan/01:07] <Cue_Ball> you all got me paranoid
[09 Jan/01:08] <Cue_Ball> downlaoading Norton demo
[09 Jan/01:08] <Cue_Ball> download
[09 Jan/01:08] <Cue_Ball> ugh
[09 Jan/01:08] <|Dv8|> nothing happened to mine..never really had to do anything to it at all
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[09 Jan/01:08] <Cue_Ball> 2.34 kps
[09 Jan/01:09] <Cue_Ball> forget that
[09 Jan/01:09] <|Dv8|> what kind of connection ya got?
[09 Jan/01:09] <Cue_Ball> 36k
[09 Jan/01:09] <Cue_Ball> dial up
[09 Jan/01:10] <|Dv8|> 2.34 ain't that bad for dialup
[09 Jan/01:10] <Cue_Ball> I know
[09 Jan/01:10] <Cue_Ball> but 2.34 when downloading 28 megs is
[09 Jan/01:10] <|Dv8|> I have been d/ling a 600 meg file for about 4 1/2 days now
[09 Jan/01:11] <|Dv8|> it's frustrating
[09 Jan/01:11] <Cue_Ball> is it a game?
[09 Jan/01:11] <Azmodan> |Dv8|, linux will do that to ya
[09 Jan/01:12] <|Dv8|> yeah
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[09 Jan/02:07] <Funth> anyone here got a creative geforce annihilator carD?
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[09 Jan/02:09] <waku> hello, can someone help me to zip a file with winzip?
[09 Jan/02:09] <waku> hello_?
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[09 Jan/02:13] <|Greeny|> ir
[09 Jan/02:13] <|Greeny|> wat's the name of the BEST BEST ANTI-VIRUS?
[09 Jan/02:13] <|Greeny|> plz
[09 Jan/02:13] <waku> somebody home?
[09 Jan/02:13] <|Greeny|> ?
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[09 Jan/02:47] <F0o> \\ //, live long and prosper Vulcan :)
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[09 Jan/02:51] <DavyJones> morning anyone here?
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[09 Jan/02:57] <DavyJones> morning anyone here?
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[09 Jan/02:58] <sofra> any printing experts?
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[09 Jan/02:59] <CJ^> YAWN
[09 Jan/03:00] <CJ^> `op
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[09 Jan/03:00] <DavyJones> sorry
[09 Jan/03:04] <DavyJones> doesn anyone know how I can fix my start/programs popup? It does not sort the applications and also I would like it to have more than one column
[09 Jan/03:06] <CJ^> the start menu?
[09 Jan/03:06] <DavyJones> yes
[09 Jan/03:07] <DavyJones> If I choose start/programs the menu of apps is not sorted also any time I install a new application it is put at the bottom of the list and does not re-sort itself. And... It is long It does not show mulitiple columns I have to choose to scroll down or up to see the entire list
[09 Jan/03:08] <CJ^> thats normal
[09 Jan/03:08] <DavyJones> the long list or the non-sorting?
[09 Jan/03:08] <CJ^> thats how Win98 does it...
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[09 Jan/03:08] <CJ^> both
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[09 Jan/03:08] <remoux> can smb help me over a lan prob
[09 Jan/03:08] <DavyJones> I could have sworn at one time after I would install an app and re-booted it would re-sort the list
[09 Jan/03:09] <CJ^> 95
[09 Jan/03:09] <remoux> i got card for cable and one for lan
[09 Jan/03:09] <remoux> but on my cable connection u can see the other computers
[09 Jan/03:09] <remoux> but on the second computer at home i can only se mine and the other one
[09 Jan/03:09] <DavyJones> I know my 95 did it and I could of sowrn that at one point 98 did it too?
[09 Jan/03:09] <CJ^> Davy it one of the win98 Annoyancues
[09 Jan/03:10] <CJ^> remoux  you see all the computers in you network through teh cable?  or you see other computers that are not yours on the cable?
[09 Jan/03:10] <DavyJones> cj, thanks I understand. DO you know if there is a utility  that can help. 
[09 Jan/03:11] <CJ^> http://www.geocities.com/~budallen/   << try there davy
[09 Jan/03:11] <CJ^> http://www.annoyances.org/win98/  << and of course there...
[09 Jan/03:11] <DavyJones> ok, I can't remember the name of the app I installed with 95 that let you control all kinds of things that you normally would not see or have control of
[09 Jan/03:11] <CJ^> tweakui
[09 Jan/03:11] <CJ^> Tweakui is on the 98 cd
[09 Jan/03:12] <DavyJones> thats it
[09 Jan/03:12] <remoux> trew my cable connection i can see the other computers on the cable
[09 Jan/03:12] <CJ^> right  but only use tweakui for 98  not the 95 version
[09 Jan/03:12] <DavyJones> hmmm... have you ever looked to see it the program menu can be controled from there?
[09 Jan/03:12] <CJ^> never actually used it much...
[09 Jan/03:12] <CJ^> the two sites i gave you shodl provide the answers
[09 Jan/03:12] <DavyJones> cj, thanks I'll have a look. appreciate the help
[09 Jan/03:12] <CJ^> remoux..  thats normal..  belive it or not..
[09 Jan/03:12] <remoux> but on  my second computer i cant
[09 Jan/03:13] <remoux> and i need to
[09 Jan/03:13] <CJ^> it file and printer sharing...  and ppl are all in teh same workgroup....
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[09 Jan/03:13] <CJ^> remoux  cause your second computer isnt in the smae workgroup...
[09 Jan/03:13] <remoux> yes but it's because i got 2 net cards
[09 Jan/03:13] <remoux> yes it is !!!
[09 Jan/03:13] <remoux> the two in the same group cause i can see the other one
[09 Jan/03:14] <CJ^> remoux  then you have to have the second computer logon to the network...
[09 Jan/03:14] <remoux> but not the cable one !!!
[09 Jan/03:14] <remoux> i'm on the second computer on i'm on the net
[09 Jan/03:14] <CJ^> simply logoff on that computer and logon... with a user and password < if you want>
[09 Jan/03:14] <CJ^> right.. BUT you not logged on to the network...
[09 Jan/03:14] <CJ^> the LAN you have.. your not logged on to it...
[09 Jan/03:14] <CJ^> www.helmig.com can explain more
[09 Jan/03:15] <CJ^> as can www.cablemodemhelp.com
[09 Jan/03:15] <remoux> oki i'll look
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[09 Jan/03:16] <DavyJones> cj, I got the site annoyances.org what was the other site you posted. 
[09 Jan/03:16] <CJ^>  \ 6L\ 6http://www.geocities.com/~budallen/
[09 Jan/03:16] <CJ^> Bud's site
[09 Jan/03:17] <DavyJones> thanks
[09 Jan/03:17] <CJ^> np
[09 Jan/03:17] <DavyJones> btw. the first thing in annoyances under customizing is how to replace the scrolling start menu with multi columns
[09 Jan/03:17] <CJ^> heh
[09 Jan/03:17] <CJ^> see
[09 Jan/03:17] <CJ^> told ya  its ONE of those
[09 Jan/03:17] <CJ^> it is a pain  i agree..
[09 Jan/03:18] <CJ^> and SE didnt change it either  go figure..
[09 Jan/03:18] <DavyJones> great!! thanks allot you just saved my pc from a horrible death! hehehehe
[09 Jan/03:18] <CJ^> BUT  win2k  has a smart menu.. which is good..
[09 Jan/03:18] <CJ^> Mill  shoudl eb the samee way
[09 Jan/03:18] <CJ^> er should be
[09 Jan/03:18] <DavyJones> I had a knife to the hard drive's cabel and was threatining to cut it if it wouldn't conform!
[09 Jan/03:19] <DavyJones> to my standards
[09 Jan/03:19] <DavyJones> have a nice day
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[09 Jan/03:19] <CJ^> :P
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[09 Jan/03:34] <remoux> cant find reply cj
[09 Jan/03:35] <CJ^> what?
[09 Jan/03:35] <remoux> for my prob with net
[09 Jan/03:35] <CJ^> remoux   the computer you are on now..  did you logoff  and log back on witha  user name  <password is optional>
[09 Jan/03:35] <CJ^> i told you what the problem is...
[09 Jan/03:36] <CJ^> for you to view anyone in the network neighborhood you must logon to the COMPUTER
[09 Jan/03:36] <remoux> yes but it isn't that the problem !!!!
[09 Jan/03:36] <CJ^> logoff and log on..
[09 Jan/03:36] <remoux> i did it
[09 Jan/03:36] <CJ^> you cant see the other computer in network neighborhood  correct?
[09 Jan/03:37] <remoux> yes but not on the cable network
[09 Jan/03:37] <remoux> on my local net yes
[09 Jan/03:37] <CJ^> the cable network.. all those computers you see in there are not yours..
[09 Jan/03:37] <remoux> yes
[09 Jan/03:37] <CJ^> those are other uses on the same cable node as you...
[09 Jan/03:37] <CJ^> thats typical...
[09 Jan/03:37] <CJ^> ignore them..
[09 Jan/03:37] <CJ^> now..
[09 Jan/03:37] <CJ^> both computers..
[09 Jan/03:37] <remoux> no
[09 Jan/03:37] <CJ^> the one your using
[09 Jan/03:37] <CJ^> and the other computer BOTH must be logged onto the network...
[09 Jan/03:37] <CJ^> not eh cable modem..
[09 Jan/03:38] <CJ^> the LAN you have installed..
[09 Jan/03:38] <remoux> but i could play half life on lan game with my friend on the other computer but not on mine
[09 Jan/03:39] <CJ^> http://www.helmig.com/j_helmig/browse.htm#Network Neighborhood
[09 Jan/03:39] <remoux> my friend lives far away from here
[09 Jan/03:39] <CJ^> thats a totally differnet subject
[09 Jan/03:39] <CJ^> i can play games on the net too..
[09 Jan/03:39] <CJ^> and i dont have a network...
[09 Jan/03:39] <CJ^> thats multiplayer gaming..
[09 Jan/03:40] <remoux> yes but i didn't use internet games
[09 Jan/03:40] <remoux> i used lan
[09 Jan/03:40] <CJ^> yes you did..
[09 Jan/03:40] <remoux> no i swear i'm sure
[09 Jan/03:40] <CJ^> yes   you did...
[09 Jan/03:40] <remoux> no
[09 Jan/03:40] <remoux> but let
[09 Jan/03:40] <CJ^> i can be on a LAN...
[09 Jan/03:41] <CJ^> and play games on the internet
[09 Jan/03:41] <remoux> my cable provider provides peer to peer
[09 Jan/03:41] <CJ^> ou simply have to know the IP of the server your connectiing to..
[09 Jan/03:41] <remoux> so it's a massif lan network
[09 Jan/03:41] <CJ^> the inernet is a massive LAN netowrk...
[09 Jan/03:42] <CJ^> you confusing yourself..
[09 Jan/03:42] <remoux> no
[09 Jan/03:42] <CJ^> now  the URL i gave you will explain why you are not seeing both computers in network neighborhood
[09 Jan/03:42] <remoux> but i'm french and i'm trying to explin it in english
[09 Jan/03:42] <CJ^> ok..
[09 Jan/03:42] <remoux> so it's hard
[09 Jan/03:43] <CJ^> what i understand is that you are not seeing both of your LOCAL computers in network neighborhood  correct?
[09 Jan/03:43] <remoux> no
[09 Jan/03:43] <remoux> i can see those two
[09 Jan/03:43] <remoux> but on the other computer i see about 100
[09 Jan/03:43] <remoux> but on mine only two
[09 Jan/03:43] <CJ^> remoux..... thats cable modem for you...
[09 Jan/03:43] <remoux> ??????
[09 Jan/03:44] <CJ^> you see everyone else that has cable modem too
[09 Jan/03:44] <remoux> yes
[09 Jan/03:44] <CJ^> \all those others computers are other cable modem users from your ISP
[09 Jan/03:44] <CJ^> thast normal...
[09 Jan/03:44] <remoux> yes but i want to see them on my computer
[09 Jan/03:45] <CJ^> what is the workgroup of each computer?
[09 Jan/03:45] <remoux> the two are on maison
[09 Jan/03:45] <remoux> and my friends asweel
[09 Jan/03:45] <remoux> so i see them but i cant see them here
[09 Jan/03:46] <CJ^> remoux  the one computer that you see all those computers on.. it logs on to a doamin?
[09 Jan/03:46] <CJ^> er domain...
[09 Jan/03:47] <remoux> iknow but how can i share it all on my computer two
[09 Jan/03:47] <CJ^> what are you using to share the internet connection?
[09 Jan/03:47] <remoux> windows 
[09 Jan/03:48] <remoux> default
[09 Jan/03:48] <remoux> program
[09 Jan/03:48] <CJ^> ICS?
[09 Jan/03:48] <remoux> yes
[09 Jan/03:48] <remoux> with two lan cards
[09 Jan/03:49] <CJ^> if you are sharing the main computers connectionto the net  you wont see those computers on the second computer...
[09 Jan/03:49] <CJ^> if the BOTH computers are given the same access tot he cable modem you will..
[09 Jan/03:49] <CJ^> its normal...
[09 Jan/03:49] <CJ^> one is logged on to the domain..
[09 Jan/03:49] <CJ^> the other is just sharing the connection
[09 Jan/03:51] <remoux> how can i do that
[09 Jan/03:51] <remoux> with windows server
[09 Jan/03:51] <remoux> net
[09 Jan/03:51] <remoux> nt
[09 Jan/03:51] <CJ^> no...
[09 Jan/03:51] <CJ^> the other computer would have to be assigned an IP from your ISP
[09 Jan/03:51] <CJ^> OR...
[09 Jan/03:52] <CJ^> you may be able to do it with a hub...
[09 Jan/03:52] <remoux> or
[09 Jan/03:52] <CJ^> but  i dont think your ISp will allow this...
[09 Jan/03:52] <CJ^> both computers have to be allowed access to the network..
[09 Jan/03:52] <remoux> impossible to do that by a prog
[09 Jan/03:52] <CJ^> right
[09 Jan/03:52] <remoux> i can i know that ????
[09 Jan/03:52] <remoux> phone them ???
[09 Jan/03:52] <CJ^> your ISP has to allow the other computer access tot he network..
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[09 Jan/03:53] <CJ^> yes
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[09 Jan/03:53] <CJ^> ask them for another IP for the other computer...
[09 Jan/03:53] <CJ^> but then you would need a hub
[09 Jan/03:53] <CJ^> and the cable modem would plug into the hub...
[09 Jan/03:53] <ThAmsTeR> how do i set up a telnet server?
[09 Jan/03:53] <CJ^> and hte two computers would share the connection fomr the hub
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[09 Jan/03:54] <Archker> Can anyone help me with a graphic card problem?
[09 Jan/03:54] <ThAmsTeR> depends
[09 Jan/03:55] <ThAmsTeR> what's the prob?
[09 Jan/03:55] <Archker> I have a AGP card, and then I install it and restart the computer. But then when windows opens it hangs and I get an orange screen with stripes all over... why?
[09 Jan/03:55] <CJ^> arch  depends onteh AGP card  and the AGP chipset
[09 Jan/03:55] <Archker> it's an Intel740
[09 Jan/03:56] <CJ^> ok... and what AGP chipset do you have?  and are you using the correct drivers for both the chipset and the card?
[09 Jan/03:56] <remoux> cj whit wingate it wont work
[09 Jan/03:56] <CJ^> remoux  you can try
[09 Jan/03:56] <Archker> I think I have the right drivers... they're the ones that came with the card
[09 Jan/03:57] <CJ^> www.cablemodemhelp.com has all the answere you need really..
[09 Jan/03:57] <remoux> oki thanks !!!
[09 Jan/03:57] <CJ^> arch  ok  but soem AGP chipsets have issues with some AGP cards..
[09 Jan/03:57] <CJ^> ALi5 chipsets for example...
[09 Jan/03:57] <CJ^> ThAmster  telnet server.. hmm
[09 Jan/03:57] <CJ^> looking that one up..  what are ya trying to do really?
[09 Jan/03:57] <Archker> but it works fine without the drivers... just slight too few colors...
[09 Jan/03:58] <CJ^> um  then you dont have drivers installed...
[09 Jan/03:59] <CJ^> if your not getting 16color-32bit  you dont have drivers installed..
[09 Jan/03:59] <Archker> mm
[09 Jan/03:59] <Archker> I know that...
[09 Jan/03:59] <Archker> but when I install the drivers, I can't start win98
[09 Jan/04:00] <CJ^> again...  what mb chipset do you have?
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[09 Jan/04:00] <CJ^> ok.. what model or make of i740?  card brand name...
[09 Jan/04:00] <Archker> it's Daytona...
[09 Jan/04:00] <Archker> 8mb
[09 Jan/04:01] <CJ^> ok...
[09 Jan/04:01] <CJ^> and what motherboard chipset?
[09 Jan/04:01] <CJ^> intel? sis? VIA? ALi5?
[09 Jan/04:01] <Archker> intel, I guess
[09 Jan/04:01] <Archker> I don't know!
[09 Jan/04:01] <Archker> but it's an ASUS board
[09 Jan/04:01] <CJ^> asus P5a?
[09 Jan/04:02] <CJ^> AMD k6?
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[09 Jan/04:02] <Archker> amd k7
[09 Jan/04:02] ! dess is known as mountain
[09 Jan/04:02] <CJ^> ahhh
[09 Jan/04:02] <CJ^> see...
[09 Jan/04:03] <Archker> Intel hates AMD, yes, but it should work anyway.... no?
[09 Jan/04:04] <CJ^> it has littel to do with that
[09 Jan/04:04] <Archker> then what is it?
[09 Jan/04:05] <CJ^> some AGP cards have trouble with SOME agp chipsets..
[09 Jan/04:05] <CJ^> thast what im looking up...
[09 Jan/04:05] <Archker> oh
[09 Jan/04:07] <CJ^> ok.. being that Asus doesnt even list the Km7...  check the MB manual for the chipset...
[09 Jan/04:08] <Archker> ok...
[09 Jan/04:08] <Archker> well, they have a site with it!
[09 Jan/04:08] <Archker> you just have to search altavista to get to it...
[09 Jan/04:08] <CJ^> heh
[09 Jan/04:08] <CJ^> yeah  but they went cloak and dagger to avoid Intel...
[09 Jan/04:08] <CJ^> :P
[09 Jan/04:08] <Archker> :)
[09 Jan/04:08] <remoux> cj another question 
[09 Jan/04:09] <remoux> how come my computer blocks when it doesn't do anything
[09 Jan/04:09] <remoux> like when i'm not home for 3 hours when i come back the computer is blocked 
[09 Jan/04:10] <remoux> with no error messages
[09 Jan/04:11] <remoux> cj still there
[09 Jan/04:11] <Archker> the screensaver?
[09 Jan/04:11] <remoux> nope
[09 Jan/04:11] <remoux> no screensaver
[09 Jan/04:11] <remoux> just the desktop
[09 Jan/04:11] <CJ^> you mean it locks up?
[09 Jan/04:12] <Archker> well, maybe the computer went mad since you weren't using it....
[09 Jan/04:12] <remoux> no more keyboard no more mouse but the screen stays but i cant do anything
[09 Jan/04:12] <CJ^> http://www1.amd.com/athlon/config   << Archker  i would try here for the up to date AGP and IDE busmastering drivers
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[09 Jan/04:13] <Archker> thanks!
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[09 Jan/04:13] <Kraftwerk> hi all:)
[09 Jan/04:14] <Kraftwerk> Can you tellme how to disable stooring my recently open files in doc folder?(start/documents)
[09 Jan/04:14] <Archker> AGP miniport driver maybe?
[09 Jan/04:15] <remoux> cj any idea
[09 Jan/04:16] <CJ^> yeap
[09 Jan/04:16] <CJ^> that may help Arrch
[09 Jan/04:16] <CJ^> also chekc the K7M site for more answers..
[09 Jan/04:16] <CJ^> remoux..  you have lockups  is what yoru saying?
[09 Jan/04:16] <CJ^> the computer just locks up?
[09 Jan/04:17] <remoux> yeap
[09 Jan/04:17] <CJ^> Kraft  http://www.annoyances.org/win98/
[09 Jan/04:17] <CJ^> remoux.. ok  well check your system out
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[09 Jan/04:17] <CJ^> make sure you have the latest drivers for everything.
[09 Jan/04:17] <Kraftwerk> tnx! :)
[09 Jan/04:18] <CJ^> if your on the cable .... i would suggest soem firewall protection..
[09 Jan/04:18] <remoux> cj thats done
[09 Jan/04:18] <remoux> they change the motherboard the processor the graphic card the modem but it still doesn' t work correctky
[09 Jan/04:18] <CJ^> whats done?
[09 Jan/04:18] <CJ^> remoux..  what system are you running?
[09 Jan/04:19] <CJ^> what is all in the computer?
[09 Jan/04:19] <remoux> win 98 p3 450 motherboard p6zxt-me hd 8 Gb
[09 Jan/04:19] <remoux> tnt2 m64 8 meg
[09 Jan/04:20] <CJ^> ok..
[09 Jan/04:20] <CJ^> but do you have the latest drivers for everything??
[09 Jan/04:20] <CJ^> have you checked?
[09 Jan/04:20] <remoux> yes
[09 Jan/04:20] <remoux> for everything !!!!
[09 Jan/04:21] <CJ^> well lockups come from a lot of things..
[09 Jan/04:21] <CJ^> most of the time  its a hardware issue...
[09 Jan/04:21] <CJ^> recheck the drivers...
[09 Jan/04:22] <remoux> could it be the harddrive
[09 Jan/04:22] <CJ^> it could be any number of things...
[09 Jan/04:22] <CJ^> the best place to start is for YOU to go look at all teh latest drivers.
[09 Jan/04:23] <remoux> becaus e the second computer works fine !!!
[09 Jan/04:23] <CJ^> dont rely ont he palce that built it..
[09 Jan/04:23] <CJ^> they may nto use the latest drivers...
[09 Jan/04:23] <CJ^> go to each website for all the hardware you have.. and get teh latest drivers...
[09 Jan/04:23] <CJ^> www.windrivers.com
[09 Jan/04:23] <CJ^> www.nvidia.com
[09 Jan/04:25] <remoux> are they drivers for harddrives ????????
[09 Jan/04:25] <CJ^> no
[09 Jan/04:25] <CJ^> you dont need drivers for a hard drive
[09 Jan/04:25] <CJ^> sound, video, modem, motherboard
[09 Jan/04:26] <remoux> oki but i think theyre all up to date
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[09 Jan/05:11] <Big_Dad> Hey I have a Program in my "Add/Remove Programs" menu that no longer exists, how do I remove it from the list then?  I get an error when trying to Remove it be cause it is not there... 
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[09 Jan/05:23] <Raph2000> hello all
[09 Jan/05:24] <Raph2000> anybody know something about Win98 here ?
[09 Jan/05:24] <Big_Dad> what something?  depends.
[09 Jan/05:24] <Raph2000> a weird error message when I execute a program
[09 Jan/05:25] <Raph2000> the program is an Encoder MPEG
[09 Jan/05:25] <Raph2000> it was working great.
[09 Jan/05:25] <Raph2000> and now for no reason it gave me this error message when I try to encode something.
[09 Jan/05:25] <Big_Dad> why do you think it is a Windows98 error?
[09 Jan/05:25] <Raph2000> I think it calls a WIndows Routine...but I can't find it a replace it.
[09 Jan/05:25] <Raph2000> here is the error message.
[09 Jan/05:26] <Raph2000> "Microsoft Visual C++ runtime library error'
[09 Jan/05:26] <Raph2000> I uninstall the program and reinstall it...but still the same
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[09 Jan/05:26] <Raph2000> there is something with Win98 that has to be fixed
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[09 Jan/05:27] <Kraftwerk> how can i lock directory with pass?
[09 Jan/05:27] <Raph2000> I've checked technet..but found nothing, any idea ?
[09 Jan/05:27] <Big_Dad> Raph2000: I don't think it's a Win98 error, looks like a corrupt DLL or something.
[09 Jan/05:28] <Raph2000> you think ? but it doesn't gave me a DLL file to check.*
[09 Jan/05:28] <Big_Dad> runtime libraries are DLLs
[09 Jan/05:28] <Raph2000> ok.
[09 Jan/05:29] <Raph2000> any idea how can I check which one my program use ?
[09 Jan/05:29] <Big_Dad> file2mon
[09 Jan/05:29] <Big_Dad> it's a freeware application that monitors all files
[09 Jan/05:29] <Raph2000> ok i'll check that ..Thanks.
[09 Jan/05:29] <Big_Dad> like reg2mon if you know anything about that, it monitors all access to the registry
[09 Jan/05:29] <Big_Dad> sure
[09 Jan/05:33] <Kraftwerk> how can i lock directory with password?
[09 Jan/05:34] <Big_Dad> Kraftwerk: I've never seen that done except for on networks.
[09 Jan/05:34] <Kraftwerk> tnx
[09 Jan/05:34] <Kraftwerk> i want to that wit my min98
[09 Jan/05:34] <Kraftwerk> on nt its easy/////
[09 Jan/05:35] <Big_Dad> yeah I don't think you can password protect folders in 98
[09 Jan/05:36] <Kraftwerk> i also didnt find how to remove document folder on start meny...
[09 Jan/05:36] <Raph2000> use WinZip with Password maybe
[09 Jan/05:36] <Kraftwerk> or to disable his function
[09 Jan/05:36] <Kraftwerk> jes.....
[09 Jan/05:36] <Big_Dad> you can clear the items in the document folder
[09 Jan/05:37] <Kraftwerk> but its a very big folder
[09 Jan/05:37] <Kraftwerk> i dont want to clear them
[09 Jan/05:37] <Kraftwerk> i wont to be auto cleared allwaya:)
[09 Jan/05:37] <Big_Dad> it won't delete them, they just won't show up on the Start Menu button.
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[09 Jan/05:38] <schremmpf> hi, is anyone here using IE 5.5?
[09 Jan/05:38] <Kraftwerk> there must be something abour removing document folder......or disableing his function.....
[09 Jan/05:40] <Big_Dad> who's he, and what function?
[09 Jan/05:40] <Kraftwerk> not to store my recently opened files
[09 Jan/05:40] <Kraftwerk> to be empty allways......
[09 Jan/05:41] <Big_Dad> Click Start, point to Settings, and then click Taskbar & Start Menu. 
[09 Jan/05:41] <Big_Dad> Click the Start Menu Programs tab. 
[09 Jan/05:41] <Big_Dad> In Documents menu, click Clear. 
[09 Jan/05:41] <Kraftwerk> i now about that
[09 Jan/05:42] <Kraftwerk> that is not practicle
[09 Jan/05:42] <schremmpf> nobody using 5.5?
[09 Jan/05:42] <Kraftwerk> you can forget to do that
[09 Jan/05:42] <Big_Dad> i'm not using 5.5
[09 Jan/05:43] <Big_Dad> i stayed with 4.0 for security purposes
[09 Jan/05:43] <schremmpf> thanks anyway
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[09 Jan/05:54] < SignOff: CJbrb!skippy@sdn-ar-006watacoP285.dialsprint.net (yeah.. you too can run Win98.. in all the shades of blue.... Page Fault at www.the-hunters.org/Goirc)
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[09 Jan/05:55] <Elrick33> hi.
[09 Jan/05:56] <Elrick33> Anyone experience with 98lite?
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[09 Jan/06:01] <Cue_Ball> :/
[09 Jan/06:01] <Cue_Ball> I  swear
[09 Jan/06:01] <Cue_Ball> i live in a cave untouched by time
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[09 Jan/06:04] <Lightr> how do I clean install win98
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[09 Jan/06:21] <WordWalkr> is Win98 SE better then Win98 and why?
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[09 Jan/06:34] <Ganja`Peg>  see my new 24% gold painted b0ng from Amsterdam Holland @ http://www.camarades.com/userpage.php3?resource=945130871/
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[09 Jan/06:52] <IronFist> Hello
[09 Jan/06:52] <IronFist> I have a question on Win98
[09 Jan/06:52] @ mode #win98 [+v IronFist] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
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[09 Jan/06:53] @ mode #win98 [+v walkndude] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[09 Jan/06:53] <IronFist> When I go to the start menu, and then go up to documents, it lists a bunch of files, how do I remove those, without dragging them to the trash one by one, can I remove them permanently? so there will be no documents folder there completely?
[09 Jan/06:54] <Ganja`Peg> yea
[09 Jan/06:54] <Ganja`Peg> goto my documents folderr
[09 Jan/06:54] <IronFist> there
[09 Jan/06:54] <IronFist> ;)
[09 Jan/06:54] <IronFist> and...
[09 Jan/06:55] <Ganja`Peg> highlight one
[09 Jan/06:55] <Ganja`Peg> goto edit
[09 Jan/06:55] <Ganja`Peg> select all
[09 Jan/06:55] <Ganja`Peg> file delete
[09 Jan/06:55] <Ganja`Peg> simple
[09 Jan/06:55] <IronFist> no, they dont show up in my documents folder, they are just short cuts, 
[09 Jan/06:56] <walkndude> or you can go to taskbar properties and hit the clear button
[09 Jan/06:56] <IronFist> and I dont want windows 98 to record what documents I have opened in the past
[09 Jan/06:57] <IronFist> I dotn have a clear button their walk
[09 Jan/06:57] <IronFist> im on Win98 First Edition
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[09 Jan/06:58] <IronFist> thanks for the help anyway
[09 Jan/06:58] <IronFist> see ya later
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[09 Jan/06:59] <walkndude> hmm, I thought it was there ..start\settings\taskbar and start menu\start menu then hit clear
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[09 Jan/07:07] <SinnyD> Ummmmmmmmmmm CD-RW........ got it into my pooter... it's been detected the lot but it ain't writing from CD to CD..... my pooter keeps freezing or the program ain't responding
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[09 Jan/07:17] <dhcp> wondering.. my printer port is set to epp in the bios.. but windows show it as a standard lpt port and I think its affecting the performance of a few external parallel devices I use.. is there a driver in win98 for epp ports?
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[09 Jan/07:18] <Raph2000> do you know where I can find "Reg2mon and File2mon" freeware ?
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[09 Jan/07:29] @ mode #win98 [+v SinnyD] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
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[09 Jan/07:36] <Cookie> when I reinstalled win98 my monitor only had 16 colors (I dont have the choice of 256 colors or 16 bit) just 16 colors or 2 colors.. can anyone halp me ?
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[09 Jan/07:37] <musical5> hi
[09 Jan/07:37] @ mode #win98 [+v musical5] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[09 Jan/07:37] <musical5> whats the win98 prog that lets you see whats in the autoexec.bat??
[09 Jan/07:37] <musical5> I think it lets you see the config.sys to
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[09 Jan/07:40] <musical5> let me try this again
[09 Jan/07:40] @ mode #win98 [+v musical5] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[09 Jan/07:41] <musical5> whats the win98 prog that lets you see whats in your autoexec.bat and uncheck them from it??
[09 Jan/07:41] <musical5> lines I mean
[09 Jan/07:42] <musical5> hello...
[09 Jan/07:44] <SinnyD> hi
[09 Jan/07:44] <musical5> howdy
[09 Jan/07:44] <SinnyD> I can't answer ya... I'm waitin fer help meself
[09 Jan/07:44] <musical5> anyone else here???
[09 Jan/07:45] <musical5> kinda weird
[09 Jan/07:45] <SinnyD> No they tend to sleep
[09 Jan/07:45] <musical5> ok
[09 Jan/07:45] <SinnyD> The big @'s tend to sleep ALOT
[09 Jan/07:45] <musical5> lol
[09 Jan/07:45] < SignOff: Cookie!~yahoo@ppp247.210-253-207.mtl.mt.videotron.net (Leaving)
[09 Jan/07:45] <musical5> are they bots?
[09 Jan/07:45] <SinnyD> and then they sneak up on ya with an answer suddenly
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[09 Jan/07:46] <JamesE> hi
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[09 Jan/07:46] <JamesE> anyone got office 2k  yet ?
[09 Jan/07:46] <JamesE> thanx
[09 Jan/07:46] * SinnyD blinks "Some of them are... I think... if they aren't they're doing a good job of makin us think they are
[09 Jan/07:46] <musical5> hehehe
[09 Jan/07:47] <musical5> bbl
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[09 Jan/07:50] <CJ^> `op
[09 Jan/07:51] @ mode #win98 [+o CJ^] by Proteus!itsnotme@0wned.the.US-GOVT.org
[09 Jan/07:51] <SinnyD> oooo help help
[09 Jan/07:51] <CJ^> wel.. whats the question
[09 Jan/07:52] <SinnyD> CD-RW....... installed it and poop and it's detected.... but when I go to copy from CD to CD the software either freezes or the pooter crashes...
[09 Jan/07:52] <CJ^> thats typical....
[09 Jan/07:52] <CJ^> Adaptec EZ cd?  or 
[09 Jan/07:52] <SinnyD> Thats it
[09 Jan/07:53] <SinnyD> Adaptec
[09 Jan/07:53] <CJ^> what version?
[09 Jan/07:53] <CJ^> 3? 3.5? or 4?
[09 Jan/07:53] <SinnyD> 3.5
[09 Jan/07:53] <CJ^> only thing i found that works with it is to slow the burn speed to 1x
[09 Jan/07:54] <CJ^> either that or Try Nero
[09 Jan/07:54] <SinnyD> tried that... was a no go
[09 Jan/07:54] <SinnyD> Nero?
[09 Jan/07:54] <CJ^> yes
[09 Jan/07:54] <SinnyD> what's that?
[09 Jan/07:54] <CJ^> Nero  another burn application
[09 Jan/07:54] <SinnyD> Where can I get it?
[09 Jan/07:55] <CJ^> download.com for the demo
[09 Jan/07:55] <CJ^> and the link to the maker
[09 Jan/07:55] <SinnyD> okay I'll try it :P Thanks
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[09 Jan/07:58] <Jabbapop> hey
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[09 Jan/08:00] <Buddy123> I need help
[09 Jan/08:00] @ mode #win98 [+v Buddy123] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[09 Jan/08:00] <CJ^> with ?
[09 Jan/08:01] <Buddy123> I am looking for SCSI Card drivers... The SCSI Card is a GSII-PC ISA card...
[09 Jan/08:01] <Jabbapop> try windrivers.com
[09 Jan/08:01] <CJ^> www.windrivers.com
[09 Jan/08:01] <Buddy123> i already checked there
[09 Jan/08:02] <Jabbapop> hrm well then do u know the manufacturers site?
[09 Jan/08:02] <CJ^> who is the maker of the card?
[09 Jan/08:02] <Buddy123> no
[09 Jan/08:02] <CJ^> and what chipset is on it  or do you know?
[09 Jan/08:02] <Buddy123> doesnt say
[09 Jan/08:02] <Buddy123> that what stinks about the card
[09 Jan/08:02] <Buddy123> shipset = hld on
[09 Jan/08:03] <CJ^> or an FCC id number...
[09 Jan/08:04] <Buddy123> NCR 53c80-40 is the chipset
[09 Jan/08:05] <CJ^> nad win98 doesnt find the card ?
[09 Jan/08:05] <CJ^> er and
[09 Jan/08:05] <Buddy123> nope
[09 Jan/08:05] <Buddy123> it is an old ISA, not pnp
[09 Jan/08:05] <CJ^> did you have it search for new hardware
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[09 Jan/08:06] <Buddy123> yep
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[09 Jan/08:06] <Buddy123> what I also need is the config for it. That might be the problem...
[09 Jan/08:06] <CJ^> and it didnt even find Unknown hardware?
[09 Jan/08:06] <Buddy123> nope
[09 Jan/08:07] <CJ^> well the drivers may not help if win98 doesnt even find the card..
[09 Jan/08:07] <CJ^> look for an FCC id number on the card
[09 Jan/08:07] <Buddy123> well then, i need a config for it
[09 Jan/08:07] <Buddy123> hld on
[09 Jan/08:07] <CJ^> a cfg file you mean?
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[09 Jan/08:08] <Buddy123> documentation on setting it up
[09 Jan/08:08] <Buddy123> nope, no fcc
[09 Jan/08:08] <Buddy123> all it has is the brand = GSII-PC REV B, and P/NO:
[09 Jan/08:10] <CJ^> well...  you may try NCR's site then.. at least for the chipset drivers..
[09 Jan/08:10] <Buddy123> hmmm
[09 Jan/08:10] <CJ^> but  they may not be any help unless the card is found by win98
[09 Jan/08:11] <Buddy123> i need to know the settings though
[09 Jan/08:11] <CJ^> GSII?  SIIG?
[09 Jan/08:11] <Buddy123> GSII
[09 Jan/08:11] <CJ^> well onthe back fo the card shoudl be the jumper setting if there are any at all
[09 Jan/08:11] <Buddy123> or GS11
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[09 Jan/08:12] <Buddy123> nope, no jumper settings :(
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[09 Jan/08:13] <CJ^> tried removing all the jumpers off the card?
[09 Jan/08:13] <Buddy123> no, but one set = IRQs
[09 Jan/08:13] <Buddy123> and that is the only set
[09 Jan/08:14] <Buddy123> there is a ON / OFF switch box on it... I don't know anything about that
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[09 Jan/08:16] <CJ^> http://www3.ncr.com/support/pc/pcfiles/SCSI_Drivers/53C810/SYM8W403.ZIP   <<< thats the driver
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[09 Jan/08:16] <Buddy123> hld on
[09 Jan/08:16] <Buddy123> im there too
[09 Jan/08:18] <Buddy123> yeah, but that is for 53c810, not 53c80-40
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[09 Jan/08:21] <|mbr|> does anyone know where to find netshow on the win98 cd?
[09 Jan/08:21] <CJ^> mbr  if your trying to install it
[09 Jan/08:22] <CJ^> goto add/remove programs /windows setup tab
[09 Jan/08:22] <|mbr|> i have been there and i can't locate it
[09 Jan/08:22] <|mbr|> what is it under?
[09 Jan/08:22] <Buddy123> multimedia
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[09 Jan/08:22] <|mbr|> i'm there but i can't find it
[09 Jan/08:23] <CJ^> are uo in 98 or 98se?
[09 Jan/08:23] <|mbr|> 98
[09 Jan/08:23] <CJ^> then it would be there...
[09 Jan/08:24] <|mbr|> but the weird thing is its not
[09 Jan/08:25] <CJ^> yeah  im looking at it
[09 Jan/08:25] <CJ^> Mcrosoft Netshow Player 2.0
[09 Jan/08:26] <CJ^> try download.com
[09 Jan/08:26] <CJ^> maybe they have it there as well
[09 Jan/08:26] <|mbr|> the problem is that i need the unmodified win98 version
[09 Jan/08:26] <CJ^> Buddy  i dunno what to tell ya on that card...
[09 Jan/08:26] <CJ^> unmodified??
[09 Jan/08:26] <|mbr|> it was changed shortly after rtm
[09 Jan/08:26] <Buddy123> thats fine
[09 Jan/08:26] <CJ^> what do you mean unmodified?
[09 Jan/08:27] <Buddy123> it is time to get a new card :)
[09 Jan/08:27] <CJ^> hehe yeah
[09 Jan/08:27] <|mbr|> well the one on the cd is different
[09 Jan/08:27] <CJ^> Tekram's are cheap too
[09 Jan/08:27] <CJ^> newer chipset of the one ya have there too
[09 Jan/08:27] <Buddy123> bbl
[09 Jan/08:27] <CJ^> mbr  what are you talking about???
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[09 Jan/08:27] <CJ^> if you have the full win98  you have netshow...
[09 Jan/08:27] <|mbr|> it has special features
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[09 Jan/08:27] <|mbr|> i have the full 98 retail cd
[09 Jan/08:28] <CJ^> what?
[09 Jan/08:28] <CJ^> then you have Netshow...
[09 Jan/08:28] <CJ^> its under Multimedia..
[09 Jan/08:28] <|mbr|> then how come i can't see it?
[09 Jan/08:28] <CJ^> you in Add/Remove programs... Windows Setup Tab  correct?
[09 Jan/08:28] <|mbr|> yes
[09 Jan/08:29] <CJ^> right below Media Player...
[09 Jan/08:29] <CJ^> its between media player and Mulitmedia sound schemes
[09 Jan/08:29] <|mbr|> audio compression/ cd player/macromedia shockware, etc...
[09 Jan/08:29] <|mbr|> multimedia sound schemes is under media player
[09 Jan/08:30] <CJ^> net show is under Media Player....
[09 Jan/08:30] <|mbr|> no its not...
[09 Jan/08:30] <CJ^> thats what im looking at now...
[09 Jan/08:30] <|mbr|> did you install ie5?
[09 Jan/08:30] <CJ^> then i dont knwo WHAT copy of 98 you have....
[09 Jan/08:30] <CJ^> no..
[09 Jan/08:30] <CJ^> i didnt install IE5 on 98...
[09 Jan/08:30] <|mbr|> ok that might be the difference
[09 Jan/08:31] <|mbr|> it probably alters it so you cant install it
[09 Jan/08:31] <CJ^> well do you have Media player 6 or better installed?
[09 Jan/08:31] <|mbr|> yes but the netshow on the cd has something special on it
[09 Jan/08:33] <|mbr|> do you know where win98 keeps the info about what has been installed in the windows setup tab?
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[09 Jan/08:33] <NoNameGS> hey anyone alive?
[09 Jan/08:33] @ mode #win98 [+v NoNameGS] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[09 Jan/08:33] <CJ^> Microsoft Windows Media Player upgrades the previous versions of Media Player, NetShow player, and ActiveMovie player and plays most multimedia content formats located on the Internet or your computer, including Windows Media, Real Audio/
[09 Jan/08:34] <CJ^> Media player replaces all those...
[09 Jan/08:34] <CJ^> if you have Media Player 6 or better  ya dont need Netshow...
[09 Jan/08:34] <CJ^> thats from MS's site
[09 Jan/08:35] <CJ^> yes
[09 Jan/08:35] <CJ^> mbr...  what is so speacial about Netshow?
[09 Jan/08:35] <CJ^> the Media Plaer is supposed to replace it anyways...
[09 Jan/08:35] <CJ^> so  if ya have that  you are ok...
[09 Jan/08:35] <CJ^> according to MS's site...
[09 Jan/08:35] <|mbr|> cj: i understand that but ms screwed up and put the full version of the fraunhofer codec in the netshow that comes with 98
[09 Jan/08:36] <|mbr|> the full version codec
[09 Jan/08:36] <NoNameGS> when explorer had caused an error, you know when you close it, it restarts but tray icons are gone. so how can I run tray icons when they are not in system tray?
[09 Jan/08:36] <|mbr|> they mistakingly placed the full version instead of the reduced one into the netshow on the cd
[09 Jan/08:37] <CJ^> NoName  thats case explorer crashed..
[09 Jan/08:37] <CJ^> reboot...
[09 Jan/08:37] <|mbr|> or log off
[09 Jan/08:37] <NoNameGS> any other way?
[09 Jan/08:37] <CJ^> but also run SFC after rebot to see if anythign is corrputed..
[09 Jan/08:37] <|mbr|> that will reload your start up files
[09 Jan/08:38] <CJ^> http://www.annoyances.org/win98/  try there
[09 Jan/08:38] <NoNameGS> cant I access to running system tray icons? 
[09 Jan/08:38] <|mbr|> YES!
[09 Jan/08:38] <|mbr|> i just uninstalled media player and now i can see netshow
[09 Jan/08:38] <CJ^> http://www.annoyances.org/cgi-bin/ce-showtopic/005_033  << specifically there...
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[09 Jan/08:49] <BeLoW> any one here?
[09 Jan/08:49] @ mode #win98 [+v BeLoW] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[09 Jan/08:49] <NoNameGS> thanks anyway
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[09 Jan/08:50] <BeLoW> Do i need to call the phone company to use DSL?
[09 Jan/08:51] <BeLoW> any one here?
[09 Jan/08:51] <BeLoW> hey
[09 Jan/08:51] <BeLoW> talk dammit
[09 Jan/08:54] <BeLoW> FUCK U ALL
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[09 Jan/09:01] <Hamlin> hey, does anyone know how to change the default browser in windows?
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[09 Jan/09:06] <devCodin> hi all
[09 Jan/09:06] @ mode #win98 [+v devCodin] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
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[09 Jan/09:46] <devCodin> bbl
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[09 Jan/10:04] <MiNi0N> what's better Celeron or Intel?
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[09 Jan/10:10] <DominionX> hi all
[09 Jan/10:10] @ mode #win98 [+v DominionX] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[09 Jan/10:10] <DominionX> anyone know where windows keeps the backup copies of ur user.dat and system.dat files?
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[09 Jan/10:19] ! LosQ3 is known as LosGuy
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[09 Jan/10:24] <pyrokiwi> hellos
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[09 Jan/10:27] <hydr0p0nC> hello
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[09 Jan/10:31] <LosGuy> hi
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[09 Jan/10:31] <MiNi0N> are amd's good?
[09 Jan/10:31] @ mode #win98 [+v MiNi0N] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[09 Jan/10:32] <LosGuy> the later ones are MiNi0N
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[09 Jan/10:32] <MiNi0N> how good exactly?
[09 Jan/10:32] <MiNi0N> the amd 450mhz
[09 Jan/10:32] <hydr0p0nC> my win98 doesn't reboot to dos prompt, just gives a cursor top left and thats it - can anybody help
[09 Jan/10:33] <LosGuy> I dont do hardware benchtesting ....so I cant be EXACT
[09 Jan/10:33] <MiNi0N> hey hey
[09 Jan/10:33] <MiNi0N> is the Emachine good?
[09 Jan/10:34] <LosGuy> hydr0p0nC win98 or win98se? (MS has a patch for this problem I ..think)
[09 Jan/10:34] <LosGuy> MiNi0N the ones that I have seen were surprisingly good... I wouldnt plan on upgrading them too much though
[09 Jan/10:35] <hydr0p0nC> win98 SE
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[09 Jan/10:36] <LosGuy> hydr0p0nC go get the shutdown patch from MS 
[09 Jan/10:36] <LosGuy> it addresses your problem I belive
[09 Jan/10:36] <hydr0p0nC> thanks losguy
[09 Jan/10:36] <LosGuy> it is for win98se
[09 Jan/10:36] <LosGuy> np
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[09 Jan/10:41] <||Mtl29||> someone can help me ?
[09 Jan/10:41] @ mode #win98 [+v ||Mtl29||] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
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[09 Jan/10:41] <LosGuy> dunnow
[09 Jan/10:41] @ mode #win98 [+v ||Mtl29||] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[09 Jan/10:42] <pyrokiwi> hmmm
[09 Jan/10:42] <pyrokiwi> ok no isps in aphganastan
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[09 Jan/10:44] <Aphrodite> ||Mtl29|| if you have a question just ask it.
[09 Jan/10:45] <||Mtl29||> I have an error message with driver cm8330.drv
[09 Jan/10:45] <||Mtl29||> with my win98
[09 Jan/10:48] <Aphrodite> ||Mtl29|| if you have a question just ask it.
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[09 Jan/11:04] <k-> anyone have a time crack for win98 SE?
[09 Jan/11:04] <pyrokiwi> grrrr
[09 Jan/11:04] <pyrokiwi> NO read the topic
[09 Jan/11:04] <pyrokiwi> some1 kban him
[09 Jan/11:04] <LosGuy> `kb k- see ya
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[09 Jan/11:05] <devCodin> hi all
[09 Jan/11:05] <pyrokiwi> hiya
[09 Jan/11:05] @ mode #win98 [+v devCodin] by Zeus!pegasys@tigerrose.grateful.org
[09 Jan/11:05] ! devCodin is known as devilDigg
[09 Jan/11:06] <LosGuy> hi devilDigg
[09 Jan/11:06] <devilDigg> hi los
[09 Jan/11:06] <pyrokiwi> hey devilDigg
[09 Jan/11:07] <devilDigg> hi pyro
[09 Jan/11:07] <devilDigg> i finished rewriting the pop3 program as a dll
[09 Jan/11:07] <Azmodan> gidday devilDigg 
[09 Jan/11:07] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm
[09 Jan/11:07] <Ma|ColM> i have my start bar 2 program icon width's high and if i have those little quick start icons or what ever there called on my start bar my programs only use one of the lines anybody know how to make it use both lines instead of just 1, i can take a screen shot if u don't understand what i just said heh
[09 Jan/11:07] <devilDigg> now i can make more use of it, i also plan to put it online for other programmers to use
[09 Jan/11:08] <devilDigg> hiya azmodan
[09 Jan/11:08] <Azmodan> Ma|ColM, do you see the little bar next to the bottom line, drag it up to after the little icons
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[09 Jan/11:08] <Lagwagon`> my cdr is fucked uo
[09 Jan/11:08] <Lagwagon`> my cdr is fucked up
[09 Jan/11:08] <devilDigg> no cussin
[09 Jan/11:08] <pyrokiwi> hmmm
[09 Jan/11:08] <Azmodan> Lagwagon`, watch the language
[09 Jan/11:08] <Lagwagon`> sorry
[09 Jan/11:08] <devilDigg> ask a ?stion, and we'll try to help
[09 Jan/11:09] <Lagwagon`> well, none of the recording software recognize it
[09 Jan/11:09] <Lagwagon`> just the one from philips
[09 Jan/11:09] <devilDigg> do you have the cd that came with it?
[09 Jan/11:09] <Lagwagon`> the one that comes with the writer
[09 Jan/11:09] <Lagwagon`> yes
[09 Jan/11:09] <Azmodan> Lagwagon`, is it an HP?
[09 Jan/11:09] <devilDigg> thats what you should use then
[09 Jan/11:09] [Ma|ColM> Azmodan: yeah i movd them to the right and it still only uses the top line
[09 Jan/11:09] <Lagwagon`> nope, philips ide
[09 Jan/11:10] <Lagwagon`> and everytime i try to record something with it
[09 Jan/11:10] <devilDigg> i have a hp, works fine with most cd writing softwar..
[09 Jan/11:10] <Lagwagon`> my computer freezes
[09 Jan/11:10] <devilDigg> well try getting more updated drivers for the cdr
[09 Jan/11:10] <Lagwagon`> where?
[09 Jan/11:10] <devilDigg> well, the cd should have a support website or something on it
[09 Jan/11:10] <Lagwagon`> yes
[09 Jan/11:11] <devilDigg> then go there
[09 Jan/11:11] <Lagwagon`> but you can't download drivers from that page
[09 Jan/11:11] <Azmodan> Ma|ColM, then you still don't have it in the correct position
[09 Jan/11:11] <devilDigg> then email them and tell them what your problem is.. and hope for a reply
[09 Jan/11:12] <Lagwagon`> oh yeah, and sometimes the writers says something about the buffers overrunning
[09 Jan/11:12] <devilDigg> i would also search for any drivers on the web (ex: lycos.com) with your writer model etc. and also try the philips website
[09 Jan/11:12] <Lagwagon`> writer
[09 Jan/11:12] <devilDigg> writer=cdr
[09 Jan/11:12] <Lagwagon`> yeah
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[09 Jan/11:14] [Ma|ColM> Azmodan: where is the correct positon then? ive moved it every where that im allowed to
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[09 Jan/11:18] <johan1> hallo
[09 Jan/11:18] <johan1> ????
[09 Jan/11:18] <Ma|ColM> nm i got it
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[09 Jan/11:22] <RoughNeck> does anyone have a CD KEY# for the Win98 upgrade CD?
[09 Jan/11:22] <devilDigg> no.. no warez
[09 Jan/11:22] <LosGuy> `kb RoughNeck see ya
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[09 Jan/11:22] < RoughNeck!AJF@spc-isp-tor-58-10-692.sprint.ca was kicked off #win98 by Proteus!itsnotme@0wned.the.US-GOVT.org (see ya)
[09 Jan/11:22] <devilDigg> heh
[09 Jan/11:22] <devilDigg> brb restart
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[09 Jan/11:38] <COO-MAN> hey guys
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[09 Jan/11:38] <SinnyD> Okay this CD-RW problem is still bugging me
[09 Jan/11:39] <LosGuy> hi COO-MAN
[09 Jan/11:39] <COO-MAN> hey los
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[09 Jan/11:39] <COO-MAN> anyone remember the name of the college bookstore online?
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[09 Jan/11:39] <COO-MAN> the big one?
[09 Jan/11:39] <tooner> can anyone help me with setting up internet sharing in win98?
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[09 Jan/11:41] <LosGuy> what is the problem tooner
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[09 Jan/11:41] <toonre> can anyone help me with setting up internet sharing in win98?
[09 Jan/11:41] <LosGuy> what is the problem tooner
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[09 Jan/11:41] <Azmodan> -op
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[09 Jan/11:41] @ mode #win98 [-bbbb *!*arget2002@*.telia.com *!*belouga5@*.bellglobal.com *!*Bevis@*.aol.com *!*big@*.rconnect.com] by Azmodan!~azmodan@p94-tnt1.akl.ihug.co.nz
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[09 Jan/11:41] <toonre> LosGuy: im just not sure how to do it
[09 Jan/11:42] <toonre> windows helps not very helpful
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[09 Jan/11:42] < SignOff: Aphrodite!pegasys@tigerrose.grateful.org (Hasta la vista, babe (SIGTERM))
[09 Jan/11:42] < SignOff: Zeus!pegasys@tigerrose.grateful.org (Hasta la vista, babe (SIGTERM))
[09 Jan/11:42] <LosGuy> you want to share on the internet? this is not too smart usually
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[09 Jan/11:42] <LosGuy> but you need file and printer sharing installed
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[09 Jan/11:42] <toonre> im not worried about security
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[09 Jan/11:42] <toonre> ive got that installed
[09 Jan/11:43] <toonre> and internet sharing
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[09 Jan/11:43] <toonre> but i dont know what to do now
[09 Jan/11:43] ! toonre is known as tooner
[09 Jan/11:43] <Azmodan> -down
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[09 Jan/11:45] <LosGuy> ok
[09 Jan/11:45] <LosGuy> sorry
[09 Jan/11:45] <LosGuy> you have a working tcp/ip network?
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[09 Jan/11:45] <tooner> do indeed
[09 Jan/11:45] <tooner> but win98SE on one machine only
[09 Jan/11:45] <tooner> the others just 98
[09 Jan/11:45] <LosGuy> and you made the disk
[09 Jan/11:46] <tooner> the disk?
[09 Jan/11:46] <LosGuy> that is ok as long as it is the machine that has the modem
[09 Jan/11:46] <LosGuy> when did you install ICS?
[09 Jan/11:46] <LosGuy> during install of win98se?
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[09 Jan/11:48] <tooner> yep
[09 Jan/11:48] <LosGuy> ok
[09 Jan/11:48] <LosGuy> and the win98se machine is the machine with the modem right?
[09 Jan/11:48] <tooner> yep
[09 Jan/11:48] <LosGuy> ok
[09 Jan/11:48] <LosGuy> do this
[09 Jan/11:49] <LosGuy> UNinstall ICS
[09 Jan/11:49] <LosGuy> then reinstall it
[09 Jan/11:49] <LosGuy> it doesnt work if you install during win98 install
[09 Jan/11:49] <tooner> cool
[09 Jan/11:49] <tooner> ill try that now
[09 Jan/11:49] <LosGuy> you should also
[09 Jan/11:50] <LosGuy> set a static IP on the host machine
[09 Jan/11:50] <LosGuy> and a dynamic IP on the client
[09 Jan/11:50] <RaZl3> \7fDaZ\7f
[09 Jan/11:50] <LosGuy> and the other machine (the client) should not have dialup networking installed
[09 Jan/11:52] <tooner> dynamic ip?
[09 Jan/11:52] <tooner> do you need too?
[09 Jan/11:52] <LosGuy> it can be done static...but you may have problems... if you use dynamic on the client you will allmost certainly have success right away
[09 Jan/11:52] <tooner> cool
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[09 Jan/11:53] <tooner> maybe i should try that b4 reinstalling?
[09 Jan/11:53] <LosGuy> it shouldnt matter
[09 Jan/11:54] <tooner> how does the machine downstairs dial/use the connection?
[09 Jan/11:54] <LosGuy> the host machine can be set to dial on demand
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[09 Jan/11:55] <tooner> so i should be uninstalling the services in the network control panel
[09 Jan/11:55] <tooner> ?
[09 Jan/11:55] <LosGuy> add remove 
[09 Jan/11:56] <LosGuy> software
[09 Jan/11:56] <LosGuy> windows componants
[09 Jan/11:56] <tooner> i cant find it
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[09 Jan/11:57] <tooner> ok
[09 Jan/11:57] <tooner> got it
[09 Jan/11:57] <tooner> should i restart?
[09 Jan/11:58] <LosGuy> that is usually smart to do after uninstalling software tooner
[09 Jan/11:58] <LosGuy> especially windows componants
[09 Jan/11:58] <tooner> ok will do
[09 Jan/11:58] <tooner> thanks
[09 Jan/11:59] <LosGuy> np
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[09 Jan/12:00] <VerLudwig> hello
[09 Jan/12:00] <VerLudwig> I have a question
[09 Jan/12:00] <LosGuy> k
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[09 Jan/12:01] <VerLudwig> someone gave me a PB machine, pent 200. I was wondering if I could use my install cd from my hewlitt packard puter to put w98 on the pb
[09 Jan/12:02] <LosGuy> not legally I belive and probably not easily
[09 Jan/12:02] <VerLudwig> it has alot of propriatory crap on it
[09 Jan/12:03] <LosGuy> yeah 
[09 Jan/12:03] <LosGuy> so do the PB oem versions
[09 Jan/12:03] <VerLudwig> so I have to get another copy of 98 then
[09 Jan/12:03] < SignOff: Deton8R!~Deton8R@a24b31n74client225.hawaii.rr.com (Signed off)
[09 Jan/12:03] <LosGuy> well your HP disk is meant to install on ONE HP machine
[09 Jan/12:04] <VerLudwig> I need to buy a monitor and a hard drive for this machine today plus I need an operating system so I hope it works
[09 Jan/12:04] <VerLudwig> or I will have to drop it off a cliff
[09 Jan/12:05] <LosGuy> yer probably better off doing that with a PB anyway
[09 Jan/12:05] <VerLudwig> I have 3 kids though, they all use the puter alot
[09 Jan/12:05] <VerLudwig> I hate pb too
[09 Jan/12:05] <VerLudwig> but it has an intell pent 200 in it
[09 Jan/12:06] <VerLudwig> it should make for a nice internet machine
[09 Jan/12:07] <LosGuy> they are OK as long as you dont try to make changes to them
[09 Jan/12:07] <VerLudwig> the modem is built into the sound card, lol
[09 Jan/12:07] <LosGuy> they dont upgrade well at all
[09 Jan/12:07] <LosGuy> yeah
[09 Jan/12:07] <VerLudwig> the HP I bought last year upgrades really nice
[09 Jan/12:07] <VerLudwig> never had probs
[09 Jan/12:08] <LosGuy> kewl
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[09 Jan/12:09] <VerLudwig> My oldest son is building his own now, he is a puter nut
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[09 Jan/12:09] <LosGuy> :) its the only way to go imho
[09 Jan/12:09] <LosGuy> I hate proprietary stuf
[09 Jan/12:11] <VerLudwig> well, I'm off to best buy to spend 300 bucks on the Bell. If I cant get it to work I'll have to give it to my son
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[09 Jan/12:24] <VerLudwig> hi
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[09 Jan/12:25] <VerLudwig> will win98 run on 16 megs p200?
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[09 Jan/12:25] <j3ss1> .
[09 Jan/12:25] <VerLudwig> anyone here?
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[09 Jan/12:27] <VerLudwig> will win98 run on 16 megs p200?
[09 Jan/12:27] <VerLudwig> will win98 run on 16 megs p200?
[09 Jan/12:28] <allyB> yes slowly
[09 Jan/12:28] <VerLudwig> will win98 run on 16 megs p200?
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[09 Jan/12:31] <Combiz>  can any one help me ?
[09 Jan/12:32] <Combiz>  I don't know how to open DAT-file, or where to open it
[09 Jan/12:38] <LosGuy> dat file can  be lots of things
[09 Jan/12:38] <LosGuy> what is it supposed to be?
[09 Jan/12:38] <LosGuy> can be a movie or an image file etc]
[09 Jan/12:38] <LosGuy> or just data 
[09 Jan/12:40] <Combiz>  it says DAT mail
[09 Jan/12:41] <Azmodan> can you please not use those awfull colors?
[09 Jan/12:41] <Combiz>  WINMAIL.DAT
[09 Jan/12:41] < SignOff: W!cservice@undernet.org (Baltimore-R.MD.US.Undernet.Org Dallas-R.Tx.US.Undernet.org)
[09 Jan/12:41] <Combiz>  that is the DOS name
[09 Jan/12:41] <LosGuy> first
[09 Jan/12:42] <LosGuy> kill the kill the annoyance
[09 Jan/12:42] <Combiz>  kill the kill ?
[09 Jan/12:43] <Azmodan> get rid of the colors please
[09 Jan/12:43] <LosGuy> kill the colors...
[09 Jan/12:43] <Combiz>  I can't open it
[09 Jan/12:43] <Combiz>  how can I kill colours?
[09 Jan/12:43] <Combiz>  oh here
[09 Jan/12:43] <LosGuy> yes
[09 Jan/12:43] <Combiz>  this is standard
[09 Jan/12:44] <LosGuy> `then fix your annoying script
[09 Jan/12:44] <LosGuy> cuz your using mIRC and that is NOT standard for mIRC
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[09 Jan/12:45] <Combiz>  I am using scoop
[09 Jan/12:45] <Combiz>  now
[09 Jan/12:45] <Combiz>  nope
[09 Jan/12:46] <Azmodan> its very annoying
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[09 Jan/13:02] <k5> Think U guys can help me out?
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[09 Jan/13:03] <bYtEsMaCk> CAn I get help with a win98 question?
[09 Jan/13:04] <k5> Bytesmack: Think U can help me out?
[09 Jan/13:04] <k5> ah nevermind
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[09 Jan/13:05] <bYtEsMaCk> From the run window in the Start menu "What is the command to access the menu that allows you to edit what programs start with Windows?"
[09 Jan/13:08] <bYtEsMaCk> Anypone?
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[09 Jan/13:08] <bYtEsMaCk> From the run window in the Start menu "What is the command to access the menu that allows you to edit what programs start with Windows?"
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[09 Jan/13:12] <bYtEsMaCk> From the run window in the Start menu "What is the command to access the menu that allows you to edit what programs start with Windows?"
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[09 Jan/13:21] <SinnyD> okay this CD-RW is still bugging me.............
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[09 Jan/13:22] <Jonis> i need help!
[09 Jan/13:22] <Jonis> with win98!
[09 Jan/13:22] <SinnyD> Well obviously
[09 Jan/13:22] * SinnyD snickers
[09 Jan/13:22] <Jonis> explorer doesn't have d:\ for my CD-ROM
[09 Jan/13:23] <SinnyD> Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[09 Jan/13:23] <SinnyD> It's vanished?
[09 Jan/13:23] <Jonis> do u know who too fix it?
[09 Jan/13:23] <Jonis> well.. it works with a boot disk
[09 Jan/13:23] <Jonis> i formated my cpu/.. and seen then d:\ has been there
[09 Jan/13:24] <SinnyD> You got yer A:\ and C:\ but no CDROM hmmmmmmmmm did that to me......... found it was a loose connection inside the pooter
[09 Jan/13:24] <Jonis> its not a loose connection
[09 Jan/13:24] <Jonis> b/c a boot disk finds it!!
[09 Jan/13:25] <SinnyD> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm try going into your control panel and then System
[09 Jan/13:25] <Jonis> ok
[09 Jan/13:25] <SinnyD> Then go to the Device Manager tag
[09 Jan/13:26] <Jonis> ok
[09 Jan/13:26] <Jonis> there
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[09 Jan/13:26] <SinnyD> It should have an option...CD-Roms that'll list all yer CD-Roms ya have... me I got two....
[09 Jan/13:27] <Jonis> no i don't have a CD-ROM thingy
[09 Jan/13:27] <CJ^> `op
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[09 Jan/13:27] <VerLudwig> hi
[09 Jan/13:28] <CJ^> hi
[09 Jan/13:28] <SinnyD> Ask CJ^ he/she should know
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[09 Jan/13:28] <CJ^> about?
[09 Jan/13:28] * SinnyD was just going on a wing and a prayer with that one
[09 Jan/13:28] <Jonis> CJ
[09 Jan/13:28] <Go> can someone here help me with a win98 problem?
[09 Jan/13:28] <Jonis> CJ
[09 Jan/13:28] <SinnyD> «Jonis» explorer doesn't have d:\ for my CD-ROM
[09 Jan/13:28] <Jonis> can you help me?
[09 Jan/13:28] <CJ^> just ask Go...........
[09 Jan/13:28] <Jonis> um..
[09 Jan/13:28] <CJ^> Jonis only if i knonw the question...
[09 Jan/13:29] <Jonis> in explorer... i dont have a d:\
[09 Jan/13:29] <Go> ok: i can't get win98 to recognize my cd-rw
[09 Jan/13:29] <CJ^> oh...
[09 Jan/13:29] <Jonis> but with a boot disk it works
[09 Jan/13:29] <Go> it did, but now it doesn't
[09 Jan/13:29] <SinnyD> I can't get my CD-RW to work!!
[09 Jan/13:29] <CJ^> jonis  you have the correct drivers for you IDE controller?
[09 Jan/13:29] <Jonis> do u know the problem?
[09 Jan/13:29] <VerLudwig> I have an packard bell pent 200 that came with a 2.1 gig hd. the machine was given to me yesterday but it doesnt have a hard drive and I dont know if this machine will support the larger drives?? eide??
[09 Jan/13:29] <CJ^> Ver  check PB's site....
[09 Jan/13:29] <CJ^> EIDE or IDE ar identical...
[09 Jan/13:29] <VerLudwig> pb's site is no more
[09 Jan/13:30] <VerLudwig> cant look at specks
[09 Jan/13:30] <SinnyD> Same here!!
[09 Jan/13:30] <Jonis>  what about me!!!
[09 Jan/13:30] <SinnyD> Packard Bell.... checked them
[09 Jan/13:30] <SinnyD> Nothing much on CD-RW
[09 Jan/13:30] <SinnyD> :(
[09 Jan/13:30] <CJ^> Jonis....  are you running the correct drivers for your IDE controller??
[09 Jan/13:30] <Jonis> whats that>
[09 Jan/13:30] <CJ^> ahh
[09 Jan/13:30] <Jonis> shouldn't Win'98 find my drivers for the cd-rom
[09 Jan/13:30] <Jonis> shouldn't Win'98 find my drivers for the cd-rom
[09 Jan/13:31] <CJ^> ok... did you build this computer??
[09 Jan/13:31] <Jonis> no
[09 Jan/13:31] <CJ^> Jonis  ONLY if the controller for the IDE has teh correct drivers..
[09 Jan/13:31] <CJ^> NOW..
[09 Jan/13:31] <CJ^> right click on my computer
[09 Jan/13:31] <SinnyD> I got a Packard Bell Pulsar 30.. PII 300MHz... I got my CD-RW recognized but when it actually comes to burning BAM.. nothing it freezes
[09 Jan/13:31] <CJ^> choose properties
[09 Jan/13:31] <CJ^> then the performance tab
[09 Jan/13:31] <CJ^> whats it say tehre??
[09 Jan/13:31] <Jonis> yeah
[09 Jan/13:32] <CJ^> Sunny  what CDRW?
[09 Jan/13:32] <Jonis> like in the white box?
[09 Jan/13:32] <CJ^> er Sinny..
[09 Jan/13:32] <CJ^> no Jonis.. the Performance TAB
[09 Jan/13:32] <SinnyD> Dysan CRW-1622
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[09 Jan/13:32] <Jonis> i clicked on it...
[09 Jan/13:32] <CJ^> ok.and you have the burn application installed?
[09 Jan/13:32] <musicgy> hi
[09 Jan/13:32] <musicgy> i have a .bin file - how do i extract it or install the file?
[09 Jan/13:32] <CJ^> ok jonis... now  does it say anything about DOS mode?
[09 Jan/13:32] <Jonis> and what do u want me too tell you about it?
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[09 Jan/13:32] <Jonis> ok one sec
[09 Jan/13:33] <CJ^> Ed!
[09 Jan/13:33] @ mode #win98 [+o Big`Ed] by CJ^!~skippy@sdn-ar-001watacoP197.dialsprint.net
[09 Jan/13:33] <SinnyD> I installed all the software.... it burns files onto CD but... it won't burn from CD to CD
[09 Jan/13:33] <Big`Ed> thx!
[09 Jan/13:33] <CJ^> what application?
[09 Jan/13:33] <Jonis> Drive D is using MS-DOS compatibilty mod file system.
[09 Jan/13:33] <Jonis> Drive D is using MS-DOS compatibilty mod file system.
[09 Jan/13:33] <CJ^> EZ cd or Nero?
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[09 Jan/13:33] <musicgy> anyone know what i do with a .bin file?
[09 Jan/13:33] <CJ^> Jonis
[09 Jan/13:33] <Jonis> yup
[09 Jan/13:33] <CJ^> then you have loaded cd rom drivers in teh autoexec.bat
[09 Jan/13:33] <CJ^> do this...
[09 Jan/13:33] <CJ^> Start
[09 Jan/13:33] <CJ^> RUN
[09 Jan/13:34] <CJ^> type msconfig
[09 Jan/13:34] <musicgy> hello?
[09 Jan/13:34] <Jonis> done... and a window popped up
[09 Jan/13:34] <CJ^> ok..
[09 Jan/13:34] <SinnyD> Ummmmmmmmm Adaptec Easy CD
[09 Jan/13:34] <CJ^> got the autoexec.bat tab
[09 Jan/13:34] <SinnyD> where can I get this Nero
[09 Jan/13:34] <Jonis> yeah
[09 Jan/13:34] <SinnyD> ???
[09 Jan/13:34] <CJ^> Sinny  ok  did you tell it which drive is which?
[09 Jan/13:34] <CJ^> that teh cd is the data cd..
[09 Jan/13:34] <CJ^> and the CDRW is the copy cd?
[09 Jan/13:35] <SinnyD> How does I do that
[09 Jan/13:35] <musicgy> how can i use the .bin file?
[09 Jan/13:35] <SinnyD> ???
[09 Jan/13:35] <musicgy> what do i open the file with or extract it?
[09 Jan/13:35] <CJ^> musicguy  where did you get this bin file?
[09 Jan/13:35] <musicgy> my friend gave it to me
[09 Jan/13:35] <CJ^> most bin files are for information for an application..
[09 Jan/13:35] <Big`Ed> musicgy - yea - it is NOT a microsoft file
[09 Jan/13:35] <musicgy> then what do i do?
[09 Jan/13:35] <CJ^> well what is it for???
[09 Jan/13:36] <Big`Ed> ask him what it is for/how to use
[09 Jan/13:36] <CJ^> if it has not purpose  delete it...
[09 Jan/13:36] <musicgy> he doesn't know himself
[09 Jan/13:36] <CJ^> er no purpose...
[09 Jan/13:36] <CJ^> then delete it
[09 Jan/13:36] <CJ^> jonis... you there??
[09 Jan/13:36] <Big`Ed> if a friend gives you a knife - do you automatically stab yourself?
[09 Jan/13:36] <Jonis> yuppers
[09 Jan/13:36] <musicgy> there're no programs to extract a bin file?
[09 Jan/13:36] <CJ^> ok  what does it show in the autoexec.bat?
[09 Jan/13:36] <Big`Ed> musicgy - why do you think it needs extracting?
[09 Jan/13:37] <musicgy> it's 480MB
[09 Jan/13:37] <CJ^> musicguy  why do you want to extract it if you dont knwo what it does... thats really stupid...
[09 Jan/13:37] <Big`Ed> musicgy - BIN is NOT a standard microsoft file format
[09 Jan/13:37] <musicgy> then how can i use it?
[09 Jan/13:37] <CJ^> sounds like an ISO..
[09 Jan/13:37] <VerLudwig> a packard bell pent 200 was given to me with no HD. it had a 2.1 gig in it. would this be an eid drive??
[09 Jan/13:37] <CJ^> try winimage
[09 Jan/13:37] <Big`Ed> musicgy - WHAT IS IT?
[09 Jan/13:37] <Jonis>  this:
[09 Jan/13:37] <Jonis> @echo off
[09 Jan/13:37] <Jonis> SET SOUND=C:\PROGRA~1\AUDIOAPP
[09 Jan/13:37] <Jonis> SET MIDI=SYNTH:1 MAP:E MODE:0
[09 Jan/13:37] <Jonis> SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6 
[09 Jan/13:37] <Jonis> path=c:\;c:\windows;c:\windows\command;c:\windows\command\edb;c:\dos
[09 Jan/13:37] <Jonis> mscdex /d:mscd001
[09 Jan/13:37] <Big`Ed> SUPPOSTED TO BE?
[09 Jan/13:37] <CJ^> yes Vert   it is
[09 Jan/13:37] <CJ^> jonis
[09 Jan/13:37] <CJ^> uncheck the box next to that
[09 Jan/13:37] <CJ^> that why you dont see the cdrom drive..
[09 Jan/13:38] <CJ^> you have DOS drivers installed
[09 Jan/13:38] <Jonis> uncheck what?
[09 Jan/13:38] <CJ^> all of it
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[09 Jan/13:38] <CJ^> and in the config.sys too
[09 Jan/13:38] <SinnyD> How Do I tell the pooter which Drive is for what?
[09 Jan/13:38] <sprout> anyone familiar with heavy gear?
[09 Jan/13:38] <Jonis> hold on
[09 Jan/13:38] <Jonis> uncheck what?
[09 Jan/13:38] <sprout> I'm having trouble with it with win98...
[09 Jan/13:38] <CJ^> Jonis...  better yet
[09 Jan/13:38] <CJ^> do this
[09 Jan/13:38] <CJ^> close out msconfig
[09 Jan/13:38] <VerLudwig> CJ^: I have a 4.3 gig in my hewlitt packard, would that work in the packard bell that used to have a 2.1?
[09 Jan/13:38] <Jonis> ok
[09 Jan/13:38] <Big`Ed> sprout - how?
[09 Jan/13:38] <CJ^> find the autoexec.bat and config.sys
[09 Jan/13:38] <CJ^> rename then to .old
[09 Jan/13:39] <CJ^> autoexec.old and config.old
[09 Jan/13:39] <CJ^> then reboot
[09 Jan/13:39] <Jonis> should i make a back up copy of them?
[09 Jan/13:39] <CJ^> no..
[09 Jan/13:39] <Big`Ed> (old = backup)
[09 Jan/13:39] <CJ^> just rename them..
[09 Jan/13:39] <CJ^> its not gonna hurt anything
[09 Jan/13:39] <CJ^> \win9x doesnt use them...
[09 Jan/13:39] * SinnyD will wait fer CJ^ to finish cause he/she is one busy person hehehe
[09 Jan/13:39] <CJ^> doesnt need them actually..
[09 Jan/13:39] <Big`Ed> sprout - what is your question?
[09 Jan/13:39] <sprout> big`ed: it has an error whenever I go to run the game...
[09 Jan/13:39] <sprout> err
[09 Jan/13:39] <Big`Ed> CJ^ - your a he/she!
[09 Jan/13:39] <CJ^> Sinny...  you got the manual that came with the cdrw correct?
[09 Jan/13:39] <sprout> whenever I start to play
[09 Jan/13:40] <VerLudwig> CJ^: I have a 4.3 gig in my hewlitt packard, would that work in the packard bell that used to have a 2.1?
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[09 Jan/13:40] <Big`Ed> sprout - so the game is giving you a error - not win98?
[09 Jan/13:40] <sprout> it says, Heavy Gear shutting down due to fatal error
[09 Jan/13:40] <CJ^> Vert  how shoudl i know?????
[09 Jan/13:40] <sprout> correct
[09 Jan/13:40] <CJ^> i dont kow what the limit is on the PB's
[09 Jan/13:40] <CJ^> it may or may not
[09 Jan/13:40] <VerLudwig> ok
[09 Jan/13:40] <Big`Ed> sprout - did you check the game site for a fix to it?
[09 Jan/13:40] <CJ^> some HP machines will only allow that drive to work in an HP
[09 Jan/13:41] <SinnyD> it should work Ver......
[09 Jan/13:41] <CJ^> jonis.. dont msg  ask in here
[09 Jan/13:41] <Jonis> i renamed them
[09 Jan/13:41] <SinnyD> I got spare memory fer mine.............. and it worked
[09 Jan/13:41] <CJ^> ok
[09 Jan/13:41] <Jonis> then what sould i do
[09 Jan/13:41] <CJ^> reboot
[09 Jan/13:41] <CJ^> reboot
[09 Jan/13:41] <Jonis> what what should happen>
[09 Jan/13:41] <CJ^> the cdrom will be found...
[09 Jan/13:41] <CJ^> shoudl be...
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[09 Jan/13:41] <Jonis> ok
[09 Jan/13:41] <CJ^> thats what was stopping them...
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[09 Jan/13:41] <CJ^> you installed those drvers in there...
[09 Jan/13:42] <sprout> big`ed: yes I did
[09 Jan/13:42] <musicgy> where can i get winimage?
[09 Jan/13:42] <Big`Ed> did they say there was any problems there?
[09 Jan/13:42] <Big`Ed> sprout
[09 Jan/13:42] <CJ^> musicguy
[09 Jan/13:42] <sprout> eddie: nope, it's wierd...
[09 Jan/13:42] <CJ^> www.download.com
[09 Jan/13:43] <CJ^> sprout  did you get the latest patches from them?
[09 Jan/13:43] <sprout> I'm confused... my computer is quite advanced in the gaming aspect.
[09 Jan/13:43] <sprout> it shouldn't have any problems...
[09 Jan/13:43] <Big`Ed> sprout - what is the EXACT error
[09 Jan/13:43] <CJ^> ha
[09 Jan/13:43] <CJ^> yeah righ
[09 Jan/13:43] <sprout> only thing I can think of is the win98 o/s
[09 Jan/13:43] <sprout> one sec I'll tell you
[09 Jan/13:43] <Big`Ed> so sprout - you get this same error with all sorts of other applications and games?
[09 Jan/13:43] <SinnyD> Okay can we get onto me now? hmmmmmmm ? hehehe
[09 Jan/13:44] <Azmodan> SinnyD, how can we help you?
[09 Jan/13:44] <musicgy> yea
[09 Jan/13:44] <musicgy> winimage didn't work
[09 Jan/13:44] <CJ^> music..
[09 Jan/13:44] <CJ^> renam it to ISO
[09 Jan/13:44] <Big`Ed> musicgy - did you ever say WHAT that file is supposed to be?
[09 Jan/13:44] <SinnyD> How Do I tell the pooter which Drive is for what? IE tell it which is the Writable Drive and which is the ROm
[09 Jan/13:44] <Big`Ed> musicgy - or is it some WAREZ copy of a GAME CD?
[09 Jan/13:45] <musicgy> i have no idea
[09 Jan/13:45] <musicgy> my friend just gave it to me
[09 Jan/13:45] <Azmodan> SinnyD, any writer software will be able to tell which is the writer and which isn't
[09 Jan/13:45] <CJ^> i think it is ed...
[09 Jan/13:45] <Big`Ed> musicgy - did you EVER think to ask him?
[09 Jan/13:45] <CJ^> music... yer really full of it...
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[09 Jan/13:45] <Big`Ed> hi LosGuy
[09 Jan/13:45] <Azmodan> wb Los
[09 Jan/13:45] <musicgy> so no one has any idea what to do ?
[09 Jan/13:45] <CJ^> music...
[09 Jan/13:45] <CJ^> BIN is not a normal file
[09 Jan/13:45] <LosGuy> hi
[09 Jan/13:45] <SinnyD> Well whenever I try to burn from CD to CD the whole pooter Freezes
[09 Jan/13:45] <CJ^> it usualy used with other appilcation for information
[09 Jan/13:45] <CJ^> OR warez
[09 Jan/13:46] <musicgy> i only have the .bin and .cue file
[09 Jan/13:46] <musicgy> so is it warez then?
[09 Jan/13:46] <CJ^> music...  delete the file...
[09 Jan/13:46] <CJ^> you dont knwo what it is...
[09 Jan/13:46] <CJ^> we cant help you...
[09 Jan/13:47] <Big`Ed> musicgy - you tell me - what is the cd supposed to be?
[09 Jan/13:47] <Big`Ed> musicgy - it may be KIDDIE PORN if you don't know
[09 Jan/13:47] <sprout> big`ed: attempting to shutdown from an unknown fatal error
[09 Jan/13:47] <CJ^> a 430mb file sound like a warez file
[09 Jan/13:47] <Big`Ed> heavygear 1 or 2?
[09 Jan/13:47] * LosGuy knows exactly what it is... and it is almost certainly warez
[09 Jan/13:48] <Big`Ed> sprout - do you have problems with any other game?
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[09 Jan/13:48] <Jonis> CJ
[09 Jan/13:48] <sprout> NO
[09 Jan/13:48] <Jonis> it didn't work
[09 Jan/13:48] <sprout> not at all
[09 Jan/13:48] <Jonis> it didn't work
[09 Jan/13:48] <Big`Ed> sprout - did this game EVER work?
[09 Jan/13:49] <CJ^> Jonis... ok..
[09 Jan/13:49] <sprout> uhh...
[09 Jan/13:49] <CJ^> go back to the performance tab again
[09 Jan/13:49] <sprout> well, on Win95 on a crap computer
[09 Jan/13:49] * SinnyD taps his foot and whistles
[09 Jan/13:49] <CJ^> tell me what it says there...
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[09 Jan/13:49] <sprout> and ran like shiz...
[09 Jan/13:49] <CJ^> Sunny  got the manual that came with the CDRW?
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[09 Jan/13:49] <d00k> how do you resize a drive
[09 Jan/13:49] <Jonis> there is no white box thingy
[09 Jan/13:50] <LosGuy> d00k there is a free partition resizer 
[09 Jan/13:50] <CJ^> dook  partiton magics
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[09 Jan/13:50] <LosGuy> if you dont have partition magic
[09 Jan/13:50] <d00k> i have partition magic
[09 Jan/13:50] <Sabotage2> can someone help me with win2k?
[09 Jan/13:50] <Big`Ed> sprout - is this heavy gear 1 or 2 ?
[09 Jan/13:50] <Sabotage2> can someone help me with win2k?
[09 Jan/13:50] <Big`Ed> Sabotage2 - NO
[09 Jan/13:50] <sprout> hg1
[09 Jan/13:50] <LosGuy> then use it
[09 Jan/13:50] <Sabotage2> why
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[09 Jan/13:50] <Sabotage2> theres no one talking in #win2000
[09 Jan/13:50] <Big`Ed> sprout - did you check your video settings?
[09 Jan/13:50] <LosGuy> cuz this is a win98 channel
[09 Jan/13:50] <sprout> yes
[09 Jan/13:50] <d00k> it is only letting me go up to 2.048 megs
[09 Jan/13:50] <LosGuy> that dont make this a win2k channel
[09 Jan/13:50] <Big`Ed> Sabotage2 - maybe cuz it is not a supported software yet
[09 Jan/13:50] <sprout> I tried software, AND direct3d
[09 Jan/13:50] <CJ^> heavy gear  right sprout?
[09 Jan/13:50] <Big`Ed> Sabotage2 did you buy it from microsoft?
[09 Jan/13:50] <sprout> right CJ
[09 Jan/13:50] <Sabotage2> no
[09 Jan/13:51] <Big`Ed> bye Sabotage2
[09 Jan/13:51] <Sabotage2> but its a easy question
[09 Jan/13:51] <Big`Ed> see our topic Sabotage2
[09 Jan/13:51] <CJ^> do you have the 1.1 patch?
[09 Jan/13:51] <CJ^> jonis..
[09 Jan/13:51] <CJ^> ok
[09 Jan/13:51] <SinnyD> Manual.... it was this lil piece of poo like two sides of nothing
[09 Jan/13:51] <Sabotage2> just help me
[09 Jan/13:51] <CJ^> look in msconfig again
[09 Jan/13:51] <CJ^> i want to see if those drivers are stillloading..
[09 Jan/13:51] <Sabotage2> it'll take 2 mins of ur time
[09 Jan/13:51] <Big`Ed> http://www.activision.com/downloads/69.asp
[09 Jan/13:51] <CJ^> also.. you built this system correct?
[09 Jan/13:51] * LosGuy does NOT remember askiing d00k to violate the topic and /msg him
[09 Jan/13:51] <sprout> cj: yes, ahve 1.1
[09 Jan/13:52] <Big`Ed> Sabotage2 - last warning - NO WAREZ - NO NON-WIN98
[09 Jan/13:52] <sprout> cj: I built my system, yes.
[09 Jan/13:52] <Jonis> no
[09 Jan/13:52] <d00k> where does it say that?
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[09 Jan/13:52] <CJ^> Sab...  win2k isnt released yet bud
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[09 Jan/13:52] <CJ^> Channel|NO:Warez,Files,/MSG's,Cussing,Keys,etc (look.4.new.info.bot.here)
[09 Jan/13:52] <d00k> ooops sorry
[09 Jan/13:52] <d00k> :(
[09 Jan/13:52] <CJ^> Jonis  who built your system then?
[09 Jan/13:53] <Jonis> Mirage
[09 Jan/13:53] <CJ^> ok..
[09 Jan/13:53] <d00k> can someone give me some assistance then
[09 Jan/13:53] <Big`Ed> sprout - how about your directx - did you upgrade that?
[09 Jan/13:53] <CJ^> in the performance tab  does it say that there is a DOS mode ?
[09 Jan/13:53] <CJ^> if nto
[09 Jan/13:53] <CJ^> chekc the msconfig again
[09 Jan/13:53] <sprout> big`ed: @ dx7
[09 Jan/13:53] <Badsnot> I have the upgrade ver of Win98, and am currently running Win95b.  I'd like to low-level the HD and install fresh.  Does anyone know if I could simply use a win95 boot disk to boot my system after deleting everything, and then run the win98 setup from dos?
[09 Jan/13:54] <LosGuy> what is the problem with part magic d00k?
[09 Jan/13:54] <Big`Ed> sprout - was all your updates from the windows update site?
[09 Jan/13:54] <CJ^> Badsnot  if you have cdrom drivers  yes...
[09 Jan/13:54] <sprout> big`ed: yes
[09 Jan/13:54] <Jonis> in autoexec.bat?
[09 Jan/13:54] <d00k> loseguy: i have a 8gig drive d, and it is only letting me set it for 2gigs
[09 Jan/13:54] <CJ^> yes jonis...
[09 Jan/13:54] <LosGuy> Badsnot better yet use your win95 machine to make a boot disk
[09 Jan/13:54] <CJ^> and config.sys
[09 Jan/13:54] <Big`Ed> Badsnot - do you still have the win95b CD?
[09 Jan/13:55] <LosGuy> read fat32ebd.txt on your win98 cdrom Badsnot
[09 Jan/13:55] <Badsnot> I do...cool thanks...wanted to find out before I painted myself into a corner..and yes I still have the win95 cd
[09 Jan/13:55] <CJ^> then yer good to go badsnot
[09 Jan/13:55] <Badsnot> gotcha
[09 Jan/13:55] <LosGuy> d00k is the drive fat 32 or fat16?
[09 Jan/13:55] <Jonis> autoexect:path=c:\;c:\windows;c:\windows\command;c:\windows\command\edb;c:\dos
[09 Jan/13:55] <Big`Ed> Badsnot - if you have win98 upgrade, and original cd
[09 Jan/13:55] <CJ^> jonis..
[09 Jan/13:55] <Big`Ed> Badsnot - you can use win98 boot disk and do everything
[09 Jan/13:55] <d00k> LosGuy: fat32
[09 Jan/13:55] <CJ^> then you didnt renam the files...
[09 Jan/13:55] <CJ^> if you see anythign in there  ya didnt rename the files...
[09 Jan/13:55] <Badsnot> yes, original...as much as I hated paying the 89 bucks:)
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[09 Jan/13:55] <CJ^> uncheck everything in there..
[09 Jan/13:55] <LosGuy> d00k how old is the motherboard?
[09 Jan/13:55] <CJ^> and in config.sys
[09 Jan/13:55] <Jonis> nothing
[09 Jan/13:56] <d00k> LosGuy: maybe 2 years
[09 Jan/13:56] <Big`Ed> Badsnot - if you can boot with the windows98 startup diskette - and see your cd-rom - your all set
[09 Jan/13:56] <marsby> hey anyone have any ideas of what causes 0e type fatal errors?
[09 Jan/13:56] <LosGuy> hmm you might need to go look for a bios upgrade that has large hard drive support (that new should have it though)
[09 Jan/13:56] <Badsnot> How can I go about making a win98 boot disk without having win98 installed?
[09 Jan/13:56] <Big`Ed> sprout - i'm out of ideas - it does not sound like a windows problem
[09 Jan/13:56] <VerLudwig> CJ^: talked to a kid at best buy and he thought if I upgraded the bios that it should work fine
[09 Jan/13:56] <sprout> crappo
[09 Jan/13:57] <d00k> LosGuy: i believe it has that .. prompts that when i go into fdisk
[09 Jan/13:57] <CJ^> Verl  good luck fiding the bios upgrade...
[09 Jan/13:57] <LosGuy> Badsnot I already told you read fat32ebd.txt on your win98 cdrom
[09 Jan/13:57] <CJ^> try NEC's site
[09 Jan/13:57] <Badsnot> ahhh
[09 Jan/13:57] <VerLudwig> wouldn't be on the pb site?
[09 Jan/13:57] <LosGuy> yes did you choose it dook?
[09 Jan/13:57] <LosGuy> and partition magic shojld be able to do that stuff though
[09 Jan/13:57] <CJ^> jonis...  now.. in the msconfig  you see nothing in the autoexec.abt and config.sys?
[09 Jan/13:57] <VerLudwig> oh, yes...nec = pb
[09 Jan/13:57] <LosGuy> if your computer will support it
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[09 Jan/13:58] <CJ^> :P
[09 Jan/13:58] <CJ^> oh well...
[09 Jan/13:58] * SinnyD wiggles his toosh and dances on that *beeping* CD-RW
[09 Jan/13:58] <d00k> LosGuy: yes
[09 Jan/13:59] <LosGuy> that is an old dos limtt your running into ... or the limit for fat16
[09 Jan/13:59] <LosGuy> when you run partition magic what color does the drive appear as?
[09 Jan/13:59] <LosGuy> aqua or bright green?
[09 Jan/13:59] <LosGuy> or other 
[09 Jan/13:59] <d00k> LosGuy: what should the partition be... (ie. logical, physical,extented, etc.
[09 Jan/14:00] <LosGuy> d00k it should be a primary partition if you want to boot win9x from it (not an extended)
[09 Jan/14:00] <d00k> LosGuy: this is for my d drive, not c
[09 Jan/14:00] <d00k> LosGuy: so i'm not booting from it
[09 Jan/14:00] <Big`Ed> why would one not boot win98 ?
[09 Jan/14:01] <LosGuy> then either primary or extended with a logical partition inside the extended will work
[09 Jan/14:01] <LosGuy> Ed? boot from a logical partition?
[09 Jan/14:01] <Azmodan> a logical partition cannot be set startable
[09 Jan/14:02] <Big`Ed> win98 only installs by default to C: on the primary partition
[09 Jan/14:02] <LosGuy> yes
[09 Jan/14:02] * SinnyD thinks he's solved it "Thanks CJ^" rushes off to try his theory out
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[09 Jan/14:02] <Big`Ed> any other partioning/booting questions would not be of a win98 nature
[09 Jan/14:02] <d00k> LosGuy: my c drive partitioned fine at 3gigs, it is just the d
[09 Jan/14:02] <Big`Ed> true?
[09 Jan/14:03] <LosGuy> d00k is there any data on that drive?
[09 Jan/14:03] <d00k> LosGuy: i set it to be a prim dos, logical and it set all the 8gigs now.. got it working, no there wasn't data...
[09 Jan/14:03] <d00k> LosGuy: thanks for your help :)
[09 Jan/14:03] <LosGuy> np 
[09 Jan/14:04] <d00k> LosGuy: sorry i messaged you earlier also.. thanks a bunch, i'm convinced this chick can learn :)
[09 Jan/14:04] <d00k> laters
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[09 Jan/14:04] <LosGuy> hehe
[09 Jan/14:04] <Big`Ed> los let a chick go?
[09 Jan/14:05] * LosGuy didnt know she was a chick
[09 Jan/14:05] <Big`Ed> tsk tsk
[09 Jan/14:05] <LosGuy> well the nick didnt exactly give it away
[09 Jan/14:06] <Big`Ed> hah
[09 Jan/14:06] <LosGuy> a mindspringer too
[09 Jan/14:06] <Big`Ed> CJ^ - where did your fans all go?
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[09 Jan/14:06] <Badsnot> Alright, thanks everybody on the advice..gonna go try a dry run...take care
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[09 Jan/14:11] <suds> anyone here?
[09 Jan/14:11] <Azmodan> hi suds
[09 Jan/14:11] <Big`Ed> sure are you?
[09 Jan/14:11] <Azmodan> how can we help?
[09 Jan/14:11] <suds> have a ram problem....can someone help?
[09 Jan/14:12] <Big`Ed> never owned a ram - arn't those like goats?
[09 Jan/14:12] <suds> trying to upgrade and get memory test failed message
[09 Jan/14:12] <CJ^> then bring the memory back........
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[09 Jan/14:12] <Big`Ed> is the ram your sticking in RIGHT for your Motherboard?
[09 Jan/14:12] <suds> :-)   
[09 Jan/14:13] <Big`Ed> is the ram installed right?
[09 Jan/14:13] <suds> don't know....how can i tell....i'm trying to put in EDO ram....
[09 Jan/14:13] <Big`Ed> and have you tried the ram - by itself with out the old?
[09 Jan/14:13] <LosGuy> make sure it is seated properly
[09 Jan/14:13] <CJ^> suds...  never buy ram and NOT know what type it is..
[09 Jan/14:13] <suds> yes....won't work
[09 Jan/14:13] <CJ^> or if the motherboard supports
[09 Jan/14:13] <Big`Ed> could FRY whole PC
[09 Jan/14:13] <Big`Ed> with UNKNOWN RAM
[09 Jan/14:14] <Big`Ed> every PC comes with a motherboard manual
[09 Jan/14:14] <Big`Ed> that tells you what ram works with it
[09 Jan/14:14] <suds> is there a way i can find out onscreen if FP RAM is installed on my machine....like in control panel or something
[09 Jan/14:14] <CJ^> no suds
[09 Jan/14:14] <CJ^> windows doesnt tell you that
[09 Jan/14:14] <Big`Ed> RAM is PRE-BIOS
[09 Jan/14:14] <suds> ARGH!!!!
[09 Jan/14:14] <CJ^> on boot up it will...
[09 Jan/14:15] <suds> how can i stop that boot up screen
[09 Jan/14:15] <CJ^> pause key
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[09 Jan/14:15] <Big`Ed> unplugging the PC stops it
[09 Jan/14:16] <suds> ok.....so i should'nt tweak any settings? if the RAM i'm trying to install is bound to work than Windows should be able to pick it up automatically right?
[09 Jan/14:16] <CJ^> yes suds
[09 Jan/14:16] <LosGuy> suds read your mb manual
[09 Jan/14:16] <Big`Ed> [17:11] <suds> trying to upgrade and get memory test failed message
[09 Jan/14:17] <CJ^> or you PC manual...
[09 Jan/14:17] <suds> ok....i have a cyrix 6x86 chip....does this make a difference?
[09 Jan/14:17] <Big`Ed> that message is before windows
[09 Jan/14:17] <CJ^> its nto an OS issue...
[09 Jan/14:17] <CJ^> no suds
[09 Jan/14:17] <CJ^> it doesnt
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[09 Jan/14:17] <CJ^> the MB makes the difference
[09 Jan/14:17] <CJ^> read the MB manula  or the PC manula that came witht eh computer
[09 Jan/14:17] <limeman> what the heck does trying to recover allocation unit mean??
[09 Jan/14:17] <LosGuy> could try to disable halt on error
[09 Jan/14:17] <Big`Ed> or search the online site for same info
[09 Jan/14:17] <Big`Ed> limeman - when do you get that message?
[09 Jan/14:18] <limeman> format
[09 Jan/14:19] <suds> Thanks Cj
[09 Jan/14:19] <CJ^> suds
[09 Jan/14:19] <CJ^> also  dont go mixing FP and EDO
[09 Jan/14:19] <Big`Ed> dinner time  - be right over CJ^!
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[09 Jan/14:20] <suds> the problem might be i'm trying to install EDO and FP is in there right now....it's an older computer
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[09 Jan/14:20] <LosGuy> hi Cat`Woman
[09 Jan/14:20] <CJ^> you cant mix the two suds...
[09 Jan/14:20] <CJ^> you will get errors...
[09 Jan/14:20] <suds> i just would like to know how i can tell what's in there...i'll check the boot up screen like you said
[09 Jan/14:20] <LosGuy> suds read you mb manual  it will tell you what is supported and how to set it up
[09 Jan/14:20] <Cat`Woman> aloha
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[09 Jan/14:21] <suds> manual....howabout if i don't have one????
[09 Jan/14:21] <CJ^> then you look up your motherboard online
[09 Jan/14:21] <limeman> what the heck does trying to recover allocation unit mean?? I get this message when trying to reformat my hd..
[09 Jan/14:21] <LosGuy> how about you go to your mb manufacturers site and see if they have a .pdf version
[09 Jan/14:21] <suds> Cj...how so
[09 Jan/14:21] <LosGuy> most do
[09 Jan/14:22] <LosGuy> it is trying to fix a bad spot limeman on your HD
[09 Jan/14:22] <limeman> it can't fix it though
[09 Jan/14:22] <limeman> what do I do??
[09 Jan/14:22] <CJ^> suds.. look for markings on the board..
[09 Jan/14:22] <LosGuy> or a spot that was previously marked bad
[09 Jan/14:22] <CJ^> model number
[09 Jan/14:22] <CJ^> name
[09 Jan/14:22] <CJ^> something
[09 Jan/14:22] <limeman> it just hangs at about 94% percent complete..
[09 Jan/14:22] <LosGuy> limeman run a FULL scandisk
[09 Jan/14:22] <limeman> losguy should I run scandesk??
[09 Jan/14:23] <limeman> okay can I do that in dos??
[09 Jan/14:23] <LosGuy> (surface scan)
[09 Jan/14:23] <LosGuy> yes
[09 Jan/14:23] <limeman> cuz I think I already hosed windows
[09 Jan/14:23] <limeman> do I have to give it a flag??
[09 Jan/14:23] <LosGuy> your HD might be failing
[09 Jan/14:23] <suds> Cj...what are some common MB brands?
[09 Jan/14:23] <limeman> like scandisk -a or something??
[09 Jan/14:23] <LosGuy> no limeman it will ask once the basic scan is done if you want to do it
[09 Jan/14:23] <limeman> no the hd works it was working before I formated it
[09 Jan/14:23] <suds> i can't get that info from bios?
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[09 Jan/14:23] <limeman> okay cool enough thanx man
[09 Jan/14:24] <LosGuy> np
[09 Jan/14:24] <CJ^> suds.. no
[09 Jan/14:24] <CJ^> look..
[09 Jan/14:24] <CJ^> do you know the chipset of the motherboard?
[09 Jan/14:24] <CJ^> you have the system open now
[09 Jan/14:24] <CJ^> look at is
[09 Jan/14:24] <suds> cyrix 6x86
[09 Jan/14:24] <CJ^> look for markings
[09 Jan/14:24] <Ed`aWAy> #geekboy  I am away. Reason: Dinner and a BEER <<LósGüyPB&J>> v4.01
[09 Jan/14:24] <CJ^> no
[09 Jan/14:24] <CJ^> thats teh CPU
[09 Jan/14:24] <LosGuy> not your CPU
[09 Jan/14:24] <LosGuy> the chipset on your mb ie Via Ali Intel etc
[09 Jan/14:25] <suds> ok...so this name should be inscribed on the board?
[09 Jan/14:26] <limeman> is their anyway to stop formating??
[09 Jan/14:26] <CJ^> it might be suds
[09 Jan/14:26] <CJ^> look for white lettering  that bold..
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[09 Jan/14:26] <Raph2000> When I try to reinstall DX7 I have a Blue screen with IFSMGR(01) VXD, any Idea how to fix it ?
[09 Jan/14:26] <suds> ok...i'll check....should'nt a board from a machine that's a couple of years old be able to handle EDO ram though?
[09 Jan/14:27] <CJ^> suds  if you are mixing FP and edo  you will have problems..
[09 Jan/14:27] <CJ^> BUT  you have to find out if the board will support EDO
[09 Jan/14:27] <CJ^> dont assume
[09 Jan/14:27] <CJ^> thats wasting money
[09 Jan/14:27] <suds> ok...thanks alot CJ
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[09 Jan/14:28] <Ed`aWAy> #geekboy  I am away. Reason: Dinner and a BEER <<LósGüyPB&J>> v4.01
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[09 Jan/14:29] <pizzalord> hi all
[09 Jan/14:29] <pizzalord> can someone answer a mouse question?
[09 Jan/14:30] <CJ^> question being????????/
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[09 Jan/14:32] <pizzalord> I just installed a new ps/2 mouse into my serial port (with an adapter) it doesn't get recognised. What am I doing wrong?
[09 Jan/14:32] <Ed`aWAy> #geekboy  I am away. Reason: Dinner and a BEER <<LósGüyPB&J>> v4.01
[09 Jan/14:32] <limeman> will scandisk just automagical makes the bad sectors of a hd unusable??
[09 Jan/14:32] ! LosBrb is known as LosGuy
[09 Jan/14:33] <LosGuy> yeah limeman... but if you keep having more pop up
[09 Jan/14:33] <LosGuy> it marks them as bad
[09 Jan/14:33] <limeman> okay cool
[09 Jan/14:33] <LosGuy> pizzalord ... does your system show a mouse already installed?
[09 Jan/14:33] <limeman> everything look hugicaldorie I don't seen any clusters mark as B
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[09 Jan/14:34] <LosGuy> limeman ... your not running a drive overlay are you?
[09 Jan/14:35] <pizzalord> well, I tried to install it manually after if failed to get picked up on reboot. So, it shows a mouse in the DM, but not working properly.
[09 Jan/14:35] <LosGuy> does it show it as a serial mouse?
[09 Jan/14:35] <limeman> no losguy
[09 Jan/14:36] <limeman> but it did a scandisk on drive a that is why
[09 Jan/14:36] <limeman> I see some bad sectors on drive c
[09 Jan/14:36] <pizzalord> it only shows a serial mouse because that's what I told it it was (I guess)
[09 Jan/14:36] <LosGuy> doh
[09 Jan/14:36] <Ed`aWAy> #geekboy  I am away. Reason: Dinner and a BEER <<LósGüyPB&J>> v4.01
[09 Jan/14:36] <limeman> well I no care it isn't my comp it is my gfriends
[09 Jan/14:36] <limeman> damn hp ominbook hehe
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[09 Jan/14:37] <pizzalord> I guess my question is, this adapter WILL let my comp see the ps/2 mouse as a serial mouse, right? I mean - it's just a software thing?
[09 Jan/14:38] <LosGuy> yeah it should I do that on two of my computers
[09 Jan/14:38] <LosGuy> have ps2 adapted to serial
[09 Jan/14:38] <LosGuy> any other conflicts there?
[09 Jan/14:38] <LosGuy> did you unstall the first mouse ?
[09 Jan/14:39] <LosGuy> actually my logitec software pics it up when I just shutdown and change it
[09 Jan/14:39] <LosGuy> doesnt get rid of the ps2 mouse ..but does pick it up as a serial... I then just delete the ps2
[09 Jan/14:39] <pizzalord> No, did not remove first mouse.
[09 Jan/14:40] <LosGuy> hmmm 
[09 Jan/14:40] <pizzalord> think I'll delete ALL reference to mice in DM, and reboot again.
[09 Jan/14:40] <Ed`aWAy> #geekboy  I am away. Reason: Dinner and a BEER <<LósGüyPB&J>> v4.01
[09 Jan/14:41] <pizzalord> thanks for help Losguy!
[09 Jan/14:41] <LosGuy> np good luck pizzalord
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[09 Jan/14:43] @ mode #win98 [+v Cat`Woman] by Big`Ed!BigEd@01-057.009.popsite.net
[09 Jan/14:43] @ mode #win98 [+v LosGuy] by Big`Ed!BigEd@01-057.009.popsite.net
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[09 Jan/15:02] <Big`Ed> hey reebok
[09 Jan/15:02] <Big`Ed> wazup?
[09 Jan/15:02] <reebok> hey
[09 Jan/15:02] <reebok> not much
[09 Jan/15:02] <reebok> sleepy
[09 Jan/15:03] <Big`Ed> back to 9pm bedtimes :)
[09 Jan/15:03] <reebok> man that'd be nice
[09 Jan/15:03] <LosGuy> hi ree
[09 Jan/15:03] <reebok> hey los
[09 Jan/15:07] * Big`Ed wonders if reebok waits for his elders to tell him to go to BED
[09 Jan/15:07] <LosGuy> isnt it weird how it gets sooo busy in here...and then is dead 
[09 Jan/15:07] <reebok> hehe
[09 Jan/15:07] <Big`Ed> yea
[09 Jan/15:07] <Big`Ed> was VERY busy earlier
[09 Jan/15:07] <Big`Ed> and now dead
[09 Jan/15:07] <LosGuy> yeah
[09 Jan/15:08] <Big`Ed> hmm - got dead right after reebok joined too
[09 Jan/15:08] <reebok> darn ;)
[09 Jan/15:08] <reebok> hehe
[09 Jan/15:08] <LosGuy> I got in on the tail end of that
[09 Jan/15:08] <LosGuy> hehe
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[09 Jan/15:12] <LosGuy> `op Hashish
[09 Jan/15:12] @ mode #win98 [+o Hashish] by Athena!itsnotme@ppp35.US-GOVT.org
[09 Jan/15:12] <LosGuy> gotta love that bot name
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[09 Jan/15:13] <reebok> heh
[09 Jan/15:13] <LosGuy> actully gotta consider the owner first :P
[09 Jan/15:13] <CJ^> when are we gonna get a bot names Crack?
[09 Jan/15:13] <LosGuy> haha
[09 Jan/15:13] <CJ^> er a bot NAMED crack that it
[09 Jan/15:13] <CJ^> ack
[09 Jan/15:13] <CJ^> cant tyoe
[09 Jan/15:13] <LosGuy> crack is simon@206.161.127.6 * and they all call me crackhead
[09 Jan/15:13] <LosGuy> crack using Arlington.VA.US.Undernet.Org [20
[09 Jan/15:13] <CJ^> must controll fingers...
[09 Jan/15:13] <CJ^> bah
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[09 Jan/15:14] <Big`Ed> who?
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[09 Jan/15:15] <Big`Ed> hi sir here
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[09 Jan/15:16] <mrgone> hi
[09 Jan/15:16] <LosGuy> hi mrgone
[09 Jan/15:16] <LosGuy> Ed was doing drugs
[09 Jan/15:16] <mrgone> hmm
[09 Jan/15:16] <mrgone> i dont have any sound
[09 Jan/15:16] <Big`Ed> i was?
[09 Jan/15:17] <mrgone> couldnt create direct sound object..... i cant reboot cause it would kill my download
[09 Jan/15:17] <mrgone> oh well
[09 Jan/15:17] <LosGuy> that would be bad... if your supposed to have sound
[09 Jan/15:18] * Big`Ed presses his reboot switch tied to mrgone
[09 Jan/15:18] <mrgone> yup
[09 Jan/15:18] <mrgone> hmm isnt that for pulling teeth ed?
[09 Jan/15:18] <Big`Ed> (i take that as GO AHEAD)
[09 Jan/15:18] <LosGuy> haha I wonder if you could do that with e/pop ?
[09 Jan/15:19] <Big`Ed> yea
[09 Jan/15:19] * LosGuy has winpop plus installed
[09 Jan/15:19] <LosGuy> and firewall is mostly down right now
[09 Jan/15:20] <mrgone> well ill reboot anyway
[09 Jan/15:20] < SignOff: mrgone!~Webmaster@ts2-143.brg.tallships.ca (im a leech that needs to be bled)
[09 Jan/15:20] * LosGuy fixed THAT problem
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[09 Jan/15:24] <W[4]Nt3D> WIN sucks
[09 Jan/15:24] <W[4]Nt3D> :PP
[09 Jan/15:24] <Big`Ed> ok
[09 Jan/15:24] <Big`Ed> now what?
[09 Jan/15:24] <W[4]Nt3D> eeeeee
[09 Jan/15:24] <W[4]Nt3D> vous parlez tu francais
[09 Jan/15:25] <W[4]Nt3D> ??
[09 Jan/15:25] <LosGuy> english only
[09 Jan/15:25] <W[4]Nt3D> ok sorry
[09 Jan/15:25] <LosGuy> but thx for your first comment
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[09 Jan/15:25] <W[4]Nt3D> lol
[09 Jan/15:25] <LosGuy> we always love to hear peoples comments
[09 Jan/15:25] <W[4]Nt3D> LosGuy :P
[09 Jan/15:25] <Big`Ed> positive as they are
[09 Jan/15:26] <Big`Ed> and constructive too
[09 Jan/15:26] <LosGuy> and usually it is the user that sux... not the OS
[09 Jan/15:26] <Big`Ed> os only does as the user tells it
[09 Jan/15:26] <LosGuy> or its a linux newbie
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[09 Jan/15:27] <Big`Ed> isn't that hidden code in lin(s)ux to make a newbie go out and blast microsoft 20 times
[09 Jan/15:27] <W[4]Nt3D> LosGuy i'm not a linux newbie
[09 Jan/15:27] <phibman> anyone here have a sb live?  i have a sound problem
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[09 Jan/15:27] <Big`Ed> sure
[09 Jan/15:27] <W[4]Nt3D> I don,t understand Linux :PP
[09 Jan/15:27] <Big`Ed> like what phibman?
[09 Jan/15:27] <W[4]Nt3D> heheh
[09 Jan/15:27] <CJ^> W[4]  if yer not then your above putting windows down..
[09 Jan/15:27] <phibman> when it plays a sound i get a buzzing/screeching noise instead of the right sound
[09 Jan/15:27] <CJ^> no serisou Linux user has time to do things like that
[09 Jan/15:28] <Big`Ed> phibman - did it allways, or just start?
[09 Jan/15:28] <phibman> well it is a new pc
[09 Jan/15:28] <LosGuy> phibman look  for conflicts and the resources your card is using
[09 Jan/15:28] <phibman> just put it together
[09 Jan/15:28] <W[4]Nt3D> CJ^ you can,t tell me taht windows is really stable
[09 Jan/15:28] <W[4]Nt3D> and he never ahd bug
[09 Jan/15:28] <LosGuy> mine is
[09 Jan/15:28] <Big`Ed> W[4]Nt3D - mine is (on over 40 pc's )
[09 Jan/15:28] <CJ^> W can you tell me any OS is really stabel and never had a bug?
[09 Jan/15:29] <CJ^> and BTW....
[09 Jan/15:29] <CJ^> most of us in here USE linux ...
[09 Jan/15:29] <Big`Ed> phibman - did it detect ok?
[09 Jan/15:29] <phibman> no conflict under device manager
[09 Jan/15:29] <W[4]Nt3D> ok
[09 Jan/15:29] <W[4]Nt3D> :)
[09 Jan/15:29] <CJ^> so.. since you cant figure it out...  ya must be a lamer...
[09 Jan/15:29] <CJ^> phob  try turning the microphone down?  or off?
[09 Jan/15:29] <phibman> yes, when it found it i pointed it to the drivers on the cd
[09 Jan/15:30] <phibman> i turned the mic to mute
[09 Jan/15:30] <CJ^> ok
[09 Jan/15:30] <CJ^> BUT when you installed it..
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[09 Jan/15:30] <CJ^> did you installt he DOS mode drivers as well?
[09 Jan/15:30] <phibman> even downloaded the latest driver from creative
[09 Jan/15:30] <phibman> yes,
[09 Jan/15:30] <CJ^> DONT
[09 Jan/15:30] <CJ^> take those out..
[09 Jan/15:30] <phibman> how?
[09 Jan/15:30] <CJ^> msconfig
[09 Jan/15:31] <CJ^> uncheck the dos mode drivers
[09 Jan/15:31] ! ree|away is known as reebok
[09 Jan/15:31] <CJ^> you dont need or want em really...
[09 Jan/15:31] <phibman> k, im in msconfig, where do i look?
[09 Jan/15:31] <Big`Ed> yup
[09 Jan/15:31] <phibman> never seen this one
[09 Jan/15:32] <CJ^> autoexec and config
[09 Jan/15:32] <CJ^> personally i just renamed em to .old
[09 Jan/15:32] <CJ^> and didnt bother with msconfig...
[09 Jan/15:32] <phibman> autoexec has one sblive/dosdrv/sbeinit
[09 Jan/15:32] <phibman> that one?
[09 Jan/15:32] <CJ^> then later i went and did the custom install of the drivers and did nto install DOS drivers
[09 Jan/15:33] <CJ^> right
[09 Jan/15:33] <phibman> should i leave the set blaster line??
[09 Jan/15:33] <CJ^> no
[09 Jan/15:33] <CJ^> all of it gone
[09 Jan/15:33] <CJ^> there are three ways to do this
[09 Jan/15:34] <CJ^> rename the autoexec.bat and config.sys to .old
[09 Jan/15:34] <CJ^> uncheck the lines in msconfig
[09 Jan/15:34] <CJ^> or open up sysedit
[09 Jan/15:34] <CJ^> and delete everythign in there..
[09 Jan/15:34] <CJ^> well.. 4th option
[09 Jan/15:34] <CJ^> re-install do custom and dont install DOS mode drivers
[09 Jan/15:34] <Big`Ed> reboot time - brb
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[09 Jan/15:35] <phibman> k will try reinstall
[09 Jan/15:35] <phibman> brb
[09 Jan/15:35] <CJ^> ya still need to dump the auto and config
[09 Jan/15:35] <CJ^> empty them out first
[09 Jan/15:35] <CJ^> with sysedit
[09 Jan/15:35] <phibman> k
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[09 Jan/15:36] <TheNew007> could someone send me qbasic.exe ?
[09 Jan/15:36] <TheNew007> it didnt come with win98, heh
[09 Jan/15:36] <reebok> I think it's on the cd
[09 Jan/15:36] <phibman> thx, going to reboot, brb
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[09 Jan/15:37] <TheNew007> argh
[09 Jan/15:37] <CJ^> its on my cd
[09 Jan/15:37] <CJ^> and on my boot disk
[09 Jan/15:37] <TheNew007> ill have to go through boxes to find the CD
[09 Jan/15:37] <reebok> 007 is the man
[09 Jan/15:37] <reebok> he could do it
[09 Jan/15:37] <reebok> hehe
[09 Jan/15:37] <CJ^> darn
[09 Jan/15:37] <TheNew007> if no one can send me it i will, but i would apreciate it :-)
[09 Jan/15:38] <CJ^> no files
[09 Jan/15:38] <CJ^> see topic
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[09 Jan/15:38] <TheNew007> oh
[09 Jan/15:38] <CJ^> get teh cd..
[09 Jan/15:38] <TheNew007> argh, hehe
[09 Jan/15:38] <TheNew007> well thankd
[09 Jan/15:38] <CJ^> cmon  yer gonna NEED soon anyways
[09 Jan/15:38] <TheNew007> i have it in my basement
[09 Jan/15:38] <TheNew007> later
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[09 Jan/15:52] ! krazyone is known as kiwilad
[09 Jan/15:52] <mrgone> uhg
[09 Jan/15:53] <mrgone> really sucks when i have a 450 with sb live in my room and no hd. tnt2 coming in the mail.. hd better get here soon
[09 Jan/15:54] <mrgone> thats not even my motherboard in there.... its still the shops loaner till my new one is in... underclocked to 350
[09 Jan/15:54] <LosGuy> hehe
[09 Jan/15:54] <mrgone> that mb really sucks
[09 Jan/15:54] <LosGuy> the loaner?
[09 Jan/15:55] <mrgone> has 32mb of the shops dimms in cause it wouldnt take my simms, not enough pci/isa slots
[09 Jan/15:55] <LosGuy> ahh
[09 Jan/15:56] <mrgone> 350 is the highest it goes
[09 Jan/15:56] <LosGuy> well at least you have a computer... 
[09 Jan/15:56] <reebok> unlike ely for a long time
[09 Jan/15:56] <mrgone> not one that works los, no hd
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[09 Jan/15:57] <mrgone> bro took the 1.7gig to college for his mp3s
[09 Jan/15:57] <reebok> heh
[09 Jan/15:57] <mrgone> my other cdrw is going back to ricoh, cause it crapped
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[09 Jan/15:58] <mrgone> brr
[09 Jan/15:58] <reebok> cold up there?
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[09 Jan/15:59] <reebok> it's freezing here
[09 Jan/15:59] <mrgone> yeah cold, no snow tho
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[09 Jan/15:59] <mrgone> only -5C
[09 Jan/15:59] <reebok> yeah
[09 Jan/15:59] <reebok> well
[09 Jan/15:59] <reebok> it's 64F here
[09 Jan/16:00] <reebok> eat that
[09 Jan/16:00] <mrgone> i havent seen -25C in a few years
[09 Jan/16:00] <LosGuy> brrrr hehehhe
[09 Jan/16:00] <reebok> and FOG
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[09 Jan/16:00] <reebok> so there!!
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[09 Jan/16:00] <mrgone> 64f? hhaha
[09 Jan/16:00] <mrgone> i usyally go to the beach when its that warm
[09 Jan/16:00] <LosGuy> floridians are like californians... under 70 is cold
[09 Jan/16:01] <reebok> and 70 isn't to warm either
[09 Jan/16:01] <LosGuy> hehe
[09 Jan/16:01] <reebok> man
[09 Jan/16:01] <reebok> I have a pictutr of me
[09 Jan/16:01] <reebok> holding an IU front license plate
[09 Jan/16:01] <reebok> and my mom entende the top of the I
[09 Jan/16:01] <bluedog> hey, us texans have been known to freeze up solid at 40 %
[09 Jan/16:01] <mrgone> yeah, one of my friends went to hawaii for the winter,  it was like 25C and everyone was wearing winter clothes, he in his shorts no tshirt was the only one at the beach
[09 Jan/16:01] <reebok> so it says UT
[09 Jan/16:01] <reebok> hehe
[09 Jan/16:02] <reebok> that's about 70 I think
[09 Jan/16:02] <reebok> wait no
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[09 Jan/16:02] <reebok> 77
[09 Jan/16:02] <reebok> 77 is fine
[09 Jan/16:03] <reebok> later
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[09 Jan/16:04] <mrgone> doh
[09 Jan/16:04] <Cue_Ball> you know what sucks?
[09 Jan/16:04] <mrgone> found a tnt2 60 miles from me 175$ 
[09 Jan/16:04] <mrgone> at a store
[09 Jan/16:04] <LosGuy> no but I got a feeling your gonna tell us Cue_Ball
[09 Jan/16:04] <mrgone> say windows and ill kick you out
[09 Jan/16:04] <bluedog> de universe sux
[09 Jan/16:04] <Cue_Ball> no
[09 Jan/16:05] <Cue_Ball> I am gonna leave you in suspense
[09 Jan/16:05] <mrgone> hmm
[09 Jan/16:05] <LosGuy> haha
[09 Jan/16:05] <mrgone> a vacuume?
[09 Jan/16:05] <bluedog> das why dere is a vacume in outer space
[09 Jan/16:06] <Cue_Ball> no
[09 Jan/16:07] * LosGuy will not mention your mother
[09 Jan/16:07] <bluedog> mama sux
[09 Jan/16:07] <mrgone> hehe
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[09 Jan/16:12] <Cue_Ball> dude
[09 Jan/16:12] <CJ^> what?????????/
[09 Jan/16:12] <bluedog> wada???????
[09 Jan/16:12] <Cue_Ball> anyone ever heard of a HD with jumpers labeled C/D  A/D  CS?<-----I know this one
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[09 Jan/16:16] <bluedog> yo...bigun!
[09 Jan/16:17] <Big`Ed> gun?
[09 Jan/16:17] <bluedog> un
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[09 Jan/16:18] <Big`Ed> wb w
[09 Jan/16:18] <Cue_Ball> W/X have been on crack the past few days
[09 Jan/16:18] <LosGuy> yeah
[09 Jan/16:19] <Big`Ed> hehe
[09 Jan/16:20] <bluedog> dat shit will stunt you...
[09 Jan/16:20] <Big`Ed> NO cussing
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[09 Jan/16:21] <bluedog> sorry,man...i stand accused
[09 Jan/16:21] <Big`Ed> or - caught
[09 Jan/16:22] <Big`Ed> easy evening i guess
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[09 Jan/16:28] <Big`Ed> hi
[09 Jan/16:28] <BLuStreek> woohooo
[09 Jan/16:28] <BLuStreek> hey can u guys help me with a dns lookup prob
[09 Jan/16:29] <BLuStreek> i got a mate on the fone and something seems to be wrong with his
[09 Jan/16:29] <Big`Ed> donno - whats the error
[09 Jan/16:29] <afex> can someone tell me why in any application a zero appears when i hit enter? (along with my cursor moving a line down like it should)
[09 Jan/16:30] <Big`Ed> afex - what program are you using to get this error?
[09 Jan/16:30] <afex> it does it in anything
[09 Jan/16:30] * LosGuy doesnt see a zero in mIRC
[09 Jan/16:30] <BLuStreek> 'cannot find server or dns error'
[09 Jan/16:30] <afex> its the weirdest thing i've ever seen
[09 Jan/16:30] <Big`Ed> in regular windows 98?
[09 Jan/16:30] <afex> yea
[09 Jan/16:30] <BLuStreek> he has got dns enabled but im thinking he needs to add the ip of the names server maybe ?
[09 Jan/16:30] <Big`Ed> on your desktop?
[09 Jan/16:31] <Big`Ed> BLuStreek - did his ISP give him DNS numbers?
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[09 Jan/16:31] <afex> well for example....if i'm writing in notepad and hit enter at the end of a line.....a 0 will be there, along with my cursor
[09 Jan/16:31] <LosGuy> depends on his ISP BLuStreek 
[09 Jan/16:31] <Big`Ed> BLuStreek - those numbers come from the ISP
[09 Jan/16:31] <afex> as if i typed it
[09 Jan/16:31] <Big`Ed> afex - when did THIS start?
[09 Jan/16:31] <afex> almost like when you spill stuff on your keyboard and like 3 letters will be typed when you hit one
[09 Jan/16:31] <afex> like an hour ago
[09 Jan/16:32] <BLuStreek> not sure, when he joined they gave him a install cd for networking etc
[09 Jan/16:32] <Big`Ed> afex - have you rebooted?
[09 Jan/16:32] <afex> but i'm positive i didn't do anything physical to my comp
[09 Jan/16:32] <afex> yea
[09 Jan/16:32] <Big`Ed> afex - have you ran a good antivirus program?
[09 Jan/16:32] <afex> yup
[09 Jan/16:32] <Big`Ed> afex - what happens if you boot to a DOS prompt - and then type?
[09 Jan/16:32] <afex> hm
[09 Jan/16:33] <afex> i dunno
[09 Jan/16:33] <afex> ill try it
[09 Jan/16:33] <Big`Ed> you can use EDIT from \windows\command and test
[09 Jan/16:33] <afex> i should boot to the prompt, not just go to a dos prompt?
[09 Jan/16:33] <BLuStreek> ok , im telling him to re-install all his cd that he got, hopefully it will correct his problems
[09 Jan/16:34] <BLuStreek> the cd his isp gave him i meant ;]
[09 Jan/16:34] <Big`Ed> BLuStreek - ok - a bit overkill - but ok
[09 Jan/16:35] <afex> alright well ill try it and be back in a bit
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[09 Jan/16:36] <BLuStreek> hmm, does it seem weird that after hes re-done the isp cd, that it didnt ask him to reboot his computer, or is that sometimes what happens ?
[09 Jan/16:36] <Big`Ed> sometimes what happens
[09 Jan/16:36] <BLuStreek> cool
[09 Jan/16:36] <CJ^> it shoudl reboot  if there are any netowrkinf changees...
[09 Jan/16:36] <CJ^> :P
[09 Jan/16:37] <BLuStreek> i told him to reboot anyways, just to be safe ;]
[09 Jan/16:38] <Big`Ed> most ISP's auto send the DNS stuff
[09 Jan/16:39] <BLuStreek> yeah thats what i thought... but hes a newbie to computers and played with somestuff i think he isnt really sure of
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[09 Jan/16:39] <go> hey guys, how can i get rid of the "need dfs.vxd" error message when i boot?
[09 Jan/16:39] <BLuStreek> get that file and put it in your system dir :]
[09 Jan/16:40] <go> yeah i know . . .
[09 Jan/16:40] <go> but do you know where i can get it?
[09 Jan/16:40] ! BuZzZzZzY is known as ^Maab^
[09 Jan/16:40] <BLuStreek> ill see if i have it, u win95 or 98 or 2k even ?
[09 Jan/16:40] <go> 98
[09 Jan/16:40] <Big`Ed> BLuStreek - NO FILES
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[09 Jan/16:40] <BLuStreek> hmm, maybe not from me, im on 95 
[09 Jan/16:40] <go> or even if you could tell me what i need to edit in my .sys, .bat or .dos files
[09 Jan/16:41] <Big`Ed> BLuStreek - all win98 files are on win98 CD
[09 Jan/16:41] <Big`Ed> go - all win98 files are restored using 'SFC'
[09 Jan/16:41] <Big`Ed> start - run - sfc
[09 Jan/16:41] <go> i've installed win98 3 times today and this is the first time its asked for it
[09 Jan/16:41] <BLuStreek> Big`Ed: is there that option for win95 ?
[09 Jan/16:41] <CJbrb> no blue...there aint..:P
[09 Jan/16:41] <Big`Ed> no BLuStreek
[09 Jan/16:42] <Big`Ed> this is #win98 btw
[09 Jan/16:42] <go> i tried the find app on the win98 disk to no avail
[09 Jan/16:42] <BLuStreek> hehe
[09 Jan/16:42] <go> ok i'll try sfc
[09 Jan/16:42] <CJbrb> go
[09 Jan/16:42] <CJbrb> look in msconfig
[09 Jan/16:42] <CJbrb> start there
[09 Jan/16:42] <go> msconfig . . . where's that
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[09 Jan/16:42] <Big`Ed> start - run - msconfig
[09 Jan/16:42] <BLuStreek> Big`Ed: have u seen #win95, doesnt exist :\
[09 Jan/16:42] ! CJbrb is known as CJ^
[09 Jan/16:43] <Big`Ed> thats a wonder for a old OS
[09 Jan/16:43] <BLuStreek> old OS which is still in use by many i might add
[09 Jan/16:43] <go> Big: what do i do here in msconfig
[09 Jan/16:43] <LosGuy> start / run / type msconfig
[09 Jan/16:43] <go> ?
[09 Jan/16:43] <go> LosGuy: yeah what do i do here
[09 Jan/16:44] <go> which startup?
[09 Jan/16:44] <go> normal, diag, or selective?
[09 Jan/16:44] <LosGuy> dunno what your problem is ... I just saw you ask about msconfig
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[09 Jan/16:44] <go> i need to get dfs.vxd
[09 Jan/16:45] <go> so i don't keep getting the annoying error message on startup
[09 Jan/16:45] <CJ^> hmm
[09 Jan/16:45] <afex> for some reason i have no more 0's now.....i'm not sure why, but i'm not gonna complain about it
[09 Jan/16:45] <CJ^> i see that on a LOT of AOL installs..
[09 Jan/16:45] <Big`Ed> it is a windows system file , and SFC will pull it back
[09 Jan/16:45] <LosGuy> go start / run type SFC ..tell it to extract a single file
[09 Jan/16:46] <go> ok running . . .
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[09 Jan/16:46] <go> CJ: what were you talking about AOL installs?
[09 Jan/16:47] <Big`Ed> [19:44] <CJ^> i see that on a LOT of AOL installs..
[09 Jan/16:47] <Big`Ed> looks like he said AOL
[09 Jan/16:47] <CJ^> i see that file come missing a lot on AOL installs..
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[09 Jan/16:47] <Big`Ed> and INSTALL
[09 Jan/16:47] <dibbers> can ne1 help me?
[09 Jan/16:47] <CJ^> AOL seems to mess up win9x systems a lot
[09 Jan/16:47] <go> hmmmm. people still use AOL?
[09 Jan/16:48] <CJ^> yes\
[09 Jan/16:48] <CJ^> milions of ppl 
[09 Jan/16:48] <CJ^> stock wouldnt be as high as is it if they didnt
[09 Jan/16:48] <Big`Ed> well - actually - only aol(amers)
[09 Jan/16:48] <go> ;-)
[09 Jan/16:49] <go> ok sfc is not doing the trick
[09 Jan/16:49] <dibbers> can i make my pc automatically shut down in say 1 hour?
[09 Jan/16:49] <Big`Ed> go - you told it to extract one file?
[09 Jan/16:49] <go> ah i found a webpage with it
[09 Jan/16:49] <go> yep and i scanned too
[09 Jan/16:49] * Big`Ed never suggests files from UNKNOWN sources
[09 Jan/16:50] <LosGuy> especially when you can get the correct and known clean version from your win98 cdrom
[09 Jan/16:50] <go> hmmm
[09 Jan/16:51] <go> well how then?
[09 Jan/16:51] <go> sfc didn't help me unfortunately
[09 Jan/16:51] <LosGuy> win98 or win98se?
[09 Jan/16:51] <go> win98
[09 Jan/16:51] <Big`Ed> what happened when you typed in the file name on the bottom half of the SFC box?
[09 Jan/16:51] ! Dark^LuVr is known as DeViLgAl
[09 Jan/16:52] <CJ^> instead of tellign SFC to search for the bad file... tell it to extract it...
[09 Jan/16:52] ! xiu_sun is known as sHincHan
[09 Jan/16:52] <go> okay
[09 Jan/16:52] <go> Cj: i'll try that
[09 Jan/16:52] <LosGuy> [19:46] <LosGuy> go start / run type SFC ..tell it to extract a single file
[09 Jan/16:52] <Big`Ed> [19:48] <Big`Ed> go - you told it to extract one file?
[09 Jan/16:53] <go> CJ: you rock
[09 Jan/16:53] <CJ^> of course i do
[09 Jan/16:53] <CJ^> thats what im paid for..
[09 Jan/16:53] <Big`Ed> i said that along time ago!
[09 Jan/16:53] <go> hey guys sorry
[09 Jan/16:53] <CJ^> send cash or checks to:
[09 Jan/16:53] <go> i know
[09 Jan/16:53] <Big`Ed> you said 'yup'
[09 Jan/16:53] <go> i know, i was extracting
[09 Jan/16:53] <go> just from the wrong place 
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[09 Jan/16:53] <go> oops
[09 Jan/16:53] <Sabotage2> is there a ezcd creater version compatible with win2k?
[09 Jan/16:53] <go> my fault
[09 Jan/16:53] <CJ^> not yet Sab
[09 Jan/16:53] <Big`Ed> Sabotage2 - go get legal somewhere else
[09 Jan/16:53] <LosGuy> tell it to lookin the \win98 folder on the cdrom (it is there Ijust extracted it from my win98 cdrom)
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[09 Jan/16:53] <CJ^> and yer still deal wiht a beta OS
[09 Jan/16:54] <go> i know, i know
[09 Jan/16:54] <go> well thanks guys
[09 Jan/16:54] <CJ^> something we really do deal with in here
[09 Jan/16:54] <go> helped me out a lot
[09 Jan/16:54] <CJ^> er dont deal with that is
[09 Jan/16:54] <go> l8tr
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[09 Jan/16:54] <CJ^> and.. btw  have you checked Adaptecs site?
[09 Jan/16:54] <CJ^> or Nero?
[09 Jan/16:54] <CJ^> or WinCD?
[09 Jan/16:54] <CJ^> or  anywhere??????
[09 Jan/16:55] <BLuStreek> hey, the problem is solved now
[09 Jan/16:55] <Big`Ed> good
[09 Jan/16:55] <BLuStreek> his words :use ip header compression and use default gateway on remote network....was on there so i ticked the boxs
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[09 Jan/16:56] <BLuStreek> so there was a prob when the boxes were not tickeduse ip header compression and use default gateway on remote network....was on there so i ticked the boxs
[09 Jan/16:56] <BLuStreek> Jungle_B: u dns killing boi ;]
[09 Jan/16:56] <Jungle_B> my bad
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[09 Jan/16:57] <BLuStreek> Jungle_B: these guys will be able to help ya more than i can, im just a win95 boy ;]
[09 Jan/16:57] <CJ^> upgrade to the NOW!!!
[09 Jan/16:57] <Big`Ed> night all!
[09 Jan/16:57] <Raph2000> Hi CJ^  remember my C++ error ?
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[09 Jan/16:58] <CJ^> vaguely
[09 Jan/16:58] <Raph2000> runtime library error....each time I encode something with a program
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[09 Jan/16:58] <CJ^> ok... and?
[09 Jan/16:59] <Raph2000> I download a file name FILEMON so I could monitor the files being used...
[09 Jan/16:59] <phibman> on this sb thing
[09 Jan/16:59] <phibman> it make sound when it needs too 
[09 Jan/16:59] <phibman> but it sounds really ugly
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[09 Jan/16:59] <phibman> instead of beep, i get a buzzing like tone
[09 Jan/17:00] <Raph2000> and, there is nothing wrong....i can't find the file that made this error...this is so weird
[09 Jan/17:00] <Raph2000> I thought I tried to reinstall DirectX7 , because for some reason I thought that the Encoder might use it.
[09 Jan/17:00] <BLuStreek> thaks for the help guys, cya l8r
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[09 Jan/17:01] <Raph2000> Each time I tried to reinstall DX7 I got a VXD Blue Screen with IFSMGR(01)
[09 Jan/17:02] <Raph2000> so I downlaoad DX70a and I installed it. it worked, but my Encoder still doesn't work.
[09 Jan/17:02] <Raph2000> I'm out of luck...i Don't want to format my drive.. ;-(
[09 Jan/17:02] <Raph2000> what files in Win98 are for Visual C++ runtime ?
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[09 Jan/17:04] <LosGuy> Raph2000 search deja.com for your error
[09 Jan/17:04] <Raph2000> Ok i'll go now...brb
[09 Jan/17:06] <Raph2000> why deja.com ? is it for this kind of things ?
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[09 Jan/17:07] <go> hey i'm back
[09 Jan/17:07] <go> can someone tell mewhere your msnp32.dll file is located?
[09 Jan/17:07] <go> so i can put mine in the right place?
[09 Jan/17:07] <LosGuy> C:\windows\system
[09 Jan/17:08] <go> well that's odd
[09 Jan/17:08] <go> on startup i get a little error applet saying that it cannot find msnp32.dll and that msn or some of its components are missing
[09 Jan/17:08] <go> but mine is in c:\windows\system too
[09 Jan/17:08] <go> any ideas?
[09 Jan/17:08] <go> i hate these stupid error msgs
[09 Jan/17:09] <LosGuy> go try running SFC the regular way
[09 Jan/17:09] <go> already running it :-)
[09 Jan/17:09] <CJ^> MSN?
[09 Jan/17:09] <go> its not done yet though
[09 Jan/17:09] <go> yeah
[09 Jan/17:09] <CJ^> dude  what did you install?
[09 Jan/17:09] <CJ^> ack
[09 Jan/17:09] <go> MSN
[09 Jan/17:09] <CJ^> lol
[09 Jan/17:09] <go> win98
[09 Jan/17:09] <CJ^> MSN does that too
[09 Jan/17:10] <go> i installed at home software
[09 Jan/17:10] <CJ^> ok...
[09 Jan/17:10] <go> but Microsoft constantly rears its stupid head
[09 Jan/17:10] <CJ^> wait  MSN  or at home which???
[09 Jan/17:10] <go> i am using @home
[09 Jan/17:10] <go> but i get error messages from stupid MSN things
[09 Jan/17:10] <CJ^> ok
[09 Jan/17:10] <CJ^> ok
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[09 Jan/17:11] <CJ^> but did you install MSN ?
[09 Jan/17:11] <CJ^> if so
[09 Jan/17:11] <CJ^> uninstall it
[09 Jan/17:11] <go> i ran sfc by the way and it didn't notice anything amiss
[09 Jan/17:11] <go> no i didn't install msn
[09 Jan/17:11] <CJ^> ok
[09 Jan/17:11] <go> and just to make sure i'll go to add/remove hardware
[09 Jan/17:11] <CJ^> then why are you saying MSN?
[09 Jan/17:11] <CJ^> cause unless MSN is installed   you should not get error msgs pointing to it
[09 Jan/17:12] <go> i know
[09 Jan/17:12] <go> that's what's annoying
[09 Jan/17:12] <go> i am getting a little error applet telling me that it couldn't find msnp32.dll
[09 Jan/17:12] <go> but it IS there
[09 Jan/17:12] <CJ^> ok
[09 Jan/17:12] <go> i ran sfc to make sure it was there
[09 Jan/17:12] <CJ^> all this happened AFTER you install the @home application?
[09 Jan/17:12] <go> and i extracted it twice with no effect
[09 Jan/17:12] <go> nope
[09 Jan/17:12] <go> before
[09 Jan/17:13] <go> after i installed drivers for my motherboard
[09 Jan/17:13] <CJ^> what drivers?
[09 Jan/17:13] <CJ^> and for what motherboard?
[09 Jan/17:13] <go> here was my progress for today:
[09 Jan/17:13] <go> build computer
[09 Jan/17:13] <go> install os
[09 Jan/17:13] <go> install drivers
[09 Jan/17:13] <go> -errors
[09 Jan/17:13] <go> install software (@home, etc)
[09 Jan/17:13] <go> get online and bug you guys
[09 Jan/17:14] <go> um...
[09 Jan/17:14] <CJ^> ok...
[09 Jan/17:14] <go> its a generic thing
[09 Jan/17:14] <go> lets see
[09 Jan/17:14] <CJ^> but what MB?/
[09 Jan/17:14] <CJ^> VIS chipset??  Ali5?
[09 Jan/17:14] <CJ^> Intel?
[09 Jan/17:14] <go> M741LMRT slot 1
[09 Jan/17:14] <CJ^> or the dreaded SiS
[09 Jan/17:14] <go> using a PIII 500
[09 Jan/17:14] <CJ^> EEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
[09 Jan/17:14] <CJ^> no wonder...
[09 Jan/17:14] <CJ^> geeze
[09 Jan/17:14] <go> yeah i installed some dreaded SiS
[09 Jan/17:14] <CJ^> paid all of 10$ for that one...
[09 Jan/17:15] <CJ^> liiiiiiiiiiiiiiixxxxxxxxxx
[09 Jan/17:15] <go> yeah, well it was cheap so here i am
[09 Jan/17:15] <CJ^> grrrrrrrrrrrr
[09 Jan/17:15] <CJ^> well..
[09 Jan/17:15] <CJ^> personally...
[09 Jan/17:15] <CJ^> im gonna blaem teh mb
[09 Jan/17:15] <CJ^> er blame
[09 Jan/17:15] <go> everything is fine except for the one error
[09 Jan/17:15] <CJ^> hmmmmm
[09 Jan/17:15] <go> and it didn't do this the first time i installed 98 today
[09 Jan/17:16] <go> with the drivers
[09 Jan/17:16] <go> i was missing vnetsup.vxd, but got it off another puter
[09 Jan/17:16] <go> and that was it
[09 Jan/17:16] <go> now i got all this crap
[09 Jan/17:16] <CJ^> now
[09 Jan/17:16] <CJ^> does the board have all on board?
[09 Jan/17:16] <CJ^> video? modem nic?
[09 Jan/17:16] <CJ^> all that crap?
[09 Jan/17:17] <go> modem, sound, nic, video, yes ;-)
[09 Jan/17:17] <CJ^> thoguht so
[09 Jan/17:17] <go> heh
[09 Jan/17:17] <CJ^> its the MB and the drivers
[09 Jan/17:17] <CJ^> NOT win98
[09 Jan/17:17] <CJ^> im telling ya
[09 Jan/17:17] <CJ^> ppl return those dambn things in droves
[09 Jan/17:17] <go> well howcome it worked the first time?
[09 Jan/17:17] <CJ^> sometimes they do
[09 Jan/17:17] <go>  isn't there some file i can edit to fix it?
[09 Jan/17:17] <CJ^> most of the time they dont
[09 Jan/17:17] <go> so it doesn't look for the stupid MSN file?
[09 Jan/17:17] <CJ^> $1000 says yer problems with go away witha better board
[09 Jan/17:18] <CJ^> its the drivers that are causign it...
[09 Jan/17:18] <CJ^> the drives for the board..
[09 Jan/17:18] <go> yeah well if i needed a better board i wouldn't have gotten this one;-)
[09 Jan/17:18] <go> ok
[09 Jan/17:18] <CJ^> the NIC drivers are causign it to look for a lot of those...
[09 Jan/17:18] <go> ok, lets assume its the drivers
[09 Jan/17:18] <CJ^> well..  ya get what ya pay for ...
[09 Jan/17:18] <go> ok
[09 Jan/17:18] <go> anyway
[09 Jan/17:18] <CJ^> no assumption.. im positive
[09 Jan/17:19] <go> lets assume its the drivers
[09 Jan/17:19] <CJ^> ok....
[09 Jan/17:19] <go> how can i edit some files so that it goes away?
[09 Jan/17:19] <go> and which files do i edit?
[09 Jan/17:19] <go> obviously the software is prompted to look for something
[09 Jan/17:19] <CJ^> look at teh NIC drivers...
[09 Jan/17:19] <CJ^> yes  from the driver INF
[09 Jan/17:19] <CJ^> do this....
[09 Jan/17:20] <CJ^> goto PcChips site
[09 Jan/17:20] <go> I run Redhat on my main system, and debian on my laptop, so obviously i love fighting with my OS's
[09 Jan/17:20] <CJ^> get the latest drivers for all of the hardware on that mb
[09 Jan/17:20] <CJ^> try running RH on that system...
[09 Jan/17:20] <go> ;-)
[09 Jan/17:20] <CJ^> i bet even Rh6.1 would puke on it...
[09 Jan/17:20] <go> this one isn't for me
[09 Jan/17:20] <CJ^> and thats the easiest rh to date
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[09 Jan/17:21] <go> its for my mom's soho, so it needs windows
[09 Jan/17:21] <CJ^> well its stilla driver issue..
[09 Jan/17:21] <CJ^> now...
[09 Jan/17:21] <CJ^> you can look at the drive inf's
[09 Jan/17:21] <CJ^> look on the cd that came with the board..
[09 Jan/17:21] <CJ^> and look at tghe inf for each component
[09 Jan/17:21] <CJ^> er  the
[09 Jan/17:22] <CJ^> but alsso try PcChips site for up to date drivers..
[09 Jan/17:22] <go> hmmm
[09 Jan/17:22] <go> thanks :-)
[09 Jan/17:22] <go> what are you, some troubleshooting tech?
[09 Jan/17:23] <CJ^> hardware tester
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[09 Jan/17:23] <go> gotcha :-)
[09 Jan/17:23] <CJ^> seen too many of these at work...
[09 Jan/17:23] <go> I was seriously laughing at the way you moaned and pissed about SiS
[09 Jan/17:24] <go> figured you had some experience
[09 Jan/17:24] <CJ^> dude.. the are tehe WORST...
[09 Jan/17:24] <go> ;-)
[09 Jan/17:24] <go> ! ;-)
[09 Jan/17:24] <CJ^> next to Ali tha is....
[09 Jan/17:24] <CJ^> :P
[09 Jan/17:24] <go> well thanks again for your help ;-)
[09 Jan/17:24] <go> i'm gonna go giver a try :-)
[09 Jan/17:24] <CJ^> np
[09 Jan/17:24] <go> l8tr
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[09 Jan/17:26] <AcesDnied> hello, having probs with my roommate's comp.  it comes up and says it was unable to load system.ini.  we tried booting from the cd-rom and reinstalling windows98, but we've tried that 4 times now
[09 Jan/17:27] <CJ^> virus?
[09 Jan/17:27] <AcesDnied> no
[09 Jan/17:27] <CJ^> ok..
[09 Jan/17:27] <LosGuy> AcesDnied how long has this been happening?
[09 Jan/17:27] <CJ^> so youve re-install win98 4 times now...
[09 Jan/17:27] <AcesDnied> he was going to reinstall it for some other reason, and then we started getting these probs
[09 Jan/17:28] <AcesDnied> yes, but each time it gives us the same error
[09 Jan/17:28] <Raph2000> did you format the drive before reinstalling ?
[09 Jan/17:28] <AcesDnied> just the last couple of hours
[09 Jan/17:28] <AcesDnied> no
[09 Jan/17:28] <AcesDnied> didn't think we would have to
[09 Jan/17:28] <CJ^> always
[09 Jan/17:28] <LosGuy> AcesDnied how did youdo the install?
[09 Jan/17:28] <CJ^> if your gonna reinstall
[09 Jan/17:29] <CJ^> do it right
[09 Jan/17:29] <LosGuy> on top of win98?
[09 Jan/17:29] <AcesDnied> teag'
[09 Jan/17:29] <AcesDnied> er yeah
[09 Jan/17:29] <Raph2000> yes format is the right way
[09 Jan/17:29] * LosGuy knows that win98 keeps old copies of the reg + system.ini in the rb00xx.cab files
[09 Jan/17:29] <LosGuy> in the sysbackup folder of windows
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[09 Jan/17:29] <LosGuy> errr C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP
[09 Jan/17:30] <LosGuy> you can get to them with winzip also
[09 Jan/17:30] <AcesDnied> well crap, he doesn't have winzip
[09 Jan/17:31] <LosGuy> any archiver that opens .cab will work
[09 Jan/17:31] <CJ^> well if he was cann reinstall anways....
[09 Jan/17:31] <LosGuy> ie winace
[09 Jan/17:31] <LosGuy> actually
[09 Jan/17:31] <AcesDnied> well, he hasn't ever been on the internet, so he hasn't gotten any zip programs
[09 Jan/17:31] <LosGuy> windows can open them too
[09 Jan/17:31] <CJ^> win98 can yes
[09 Jan/17:31] <AcesDnied> ok
[09 Jan/17:31] <LosGuy> type scanreg /?
[09 Jan/17:32] <LosGuy> at a dos prompt
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[09 Jan/17:32] <AcesDnied> hmm well he's just going to format his h/d and reinstall 
[09 Jan/17:33] <AcesDnied> getting a bit pissed
[09 Jan/17:33] <LosGuy> hehe
[09 Jan/17:34] <CJ^> well.. id be more worried about what deleted system.ini
[09 Jan/17:35] <CJ^> or renamed it...
[09 Jan/17:35] <CJ^> or whatever
[09 Jan/17:36] <LosGuy> unable to load doesnt necessarily mean deleted
[09 Jan/17:36] <CJ^> well renamed.. or corrupted...
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[09 Jan/17:36] <devilDigg> hi all
[09 Jan/17:37] <CJ^> thats what i would be wondering about...
[09 Jan/17:37] <LosGuy> yeah and he was having problems that prompted the reinstall
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[09 Jan/17:42] <AcesDnied> he was installing a network card and some settings got screwed up, so he thought he would reinstall win98 hoping it would override the current settings
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[09 Jan/17:42] <CJ^> that never really works Aces
[09 Jan/17:42] <AcesDnied> heh well we tried to tell him
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[09 Jan/17:44] <AcesDnied> he's a little hard headed
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[09 Jan/17:47] <LosGuy> `op
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[09 Jan/17:50] <LosGuy> `op Aphrodite Zeus
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[09 Jan/17:50] <Azmodan> um
[09 Jan/17:50] <Azmodan> -op Proteus 
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[09 Jan/17:50] <Azmodan> ya missed one
[09 Jan/17:51] <LosGuy> ta
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[09 Jan/18:01] <mr_blobby> hiya ppls
[09 Jan/18:01] <LosGuy> hi
[09 Jan/18:02] <mr_blobby> its me pyrokiwi :)
[09 Jan/18:02] <CJ^> ack
[09 Jan/18:02] <mr_blobby> ack ?
[09 Jan/18:02] <LosGuy> yes mr_blobby ack
[09 Jan/18:03] <mr_blobby> that meaning ?
[09 Jan/18:03] <mr_blobby> u dont believe me do u>?
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[09 Jan/18:03] <mr_blobby> that it is pyrokiwi
[09 Jan/18:03] <CJ^> i say we kick him anyways...
[09 Jan/18:03] <CJ^> :P
[09 Jan/18:04] <mr_blobby> noooooooooooooo
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[09 Jan/18:04] <pyrokiwi> dont kick me
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[09 Jan/18:04] <mr_blobby> see
[09 Jan/18:05] <mr_blobby> hehe are u confused?>
[09 Jan/18:06] <CJ^> `kick mr_blobby
[09 Jan/18:06] <mr_blobby> hehe lag
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[09 Jan/18:06] <pyrokiwi> oy wat was that 4?
[09 Jan/18:06] <pyrokiwi> arnt i allowed him?
[09 Jan/18:07] <CJ^> hehe
[09 Jan/18:08] <pyrokiwi> ?
[09 Jan/18:08] <devAway> cj i see you are in a good modd
[09 Jan/18:08] <devAway> mood too
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[09 Jan/18:09] <pyrokiwi> yo devilDigg
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[09 Jan/18:09] <mr_blobby> yo devildigg
[09 Jan/18:09] <CJ^> ::'kb pyrotatertot
[09 Jan/18:09] <pyrokiwi> crazy guy
[09 Jan/18:09] <pyrokiwi> if ya dont want him tell me
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[09 Jan/18:11] * wez peers under the desk and snickers at CJ's steel toed Ronald McDonald shoes
[09 Jan/18:11] <mr_blobby> lololololol
[09 Jan/18:11] <pyrokiwi> LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
[09 Jan/18:11] <pyrokiwi> woops hehe lol
[09 Jan/18:11] <CJ^> heh
[09 Jan/18:12] <wez> its a kindler, gentler boot
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[09 Jan/18:12] <pyrokiwi> wat?
[09 Jan/18:12] <Whips34> Someone can help me to make work a program who need 550k of emm     I can't make it run !!!
[09 Jan/18:13] <CJ^> a DOS app?
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[09 Jan/18:13] <CJ^> run it only in DOS then
[09 Jan/18:13] <CJ^> shutdown to dos and try it then
[09 Jan/18:13] <Whips34> ok for dos... 
[09 Jan/18:14] <LosGuy> close programs 
[09 Jan/18:14] <pyrokiwi> any1 here know some1 called mowac on icq?
[09 Jan/18:14] <LosGuy> type mem at a dos prompt to see your available memory
[09 Jan/18:14] <LosGuy> nope
[09 Jan/18:14] <Whips34> I'll try it... but I think the driver for the midi sound (awe32) will let me down...
[09 Jan/18:16] <CJ^> that may happen....
[09 Jan/18:17] <Whips34> ok..thanx for the help....
[09 Jan/18:17] * LosGuy doesnt miss dos for that reason
[09 Jan/18:17] <CJ^> hmm..
[09 Jan/18:17] <CJ^> real nice
[09 Jan/18:17] <CJ^> somehting i just noticed...
[09 Jan/18:17] <CJ^> run mem
[09 Jan/18:17] ! Bunny is known as Katrina
[09 Jan/18:17] <CJ^> it only see 64mb...
[09 Jan/18:17] <CJ^> hmmm
[09 Jan/18:18] <CJ^> aint that quaint
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[09 Jan/18:18] <mr_blobby> hmm
[09 Jan/18:19] <LosGuy> in the ems?
[09 Jan/18:19] <CJ^> yeap
[09 Jan/18:19] <LosGuy> thats normal
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[09 Jan/18:20] <CJ^> :P
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[09 Jan/18:29] <walkndude> evening #win98
[09 Jan/18:29] <Azmodan> gidday walkndude 
[09 Jan/18:30] <LosGuy> hi walkndude
[09 Jan/18:30] <devilDigg> walkndude!
[09 Jan/18:31] <mr_blobby> yo walkndude its pyrokiwi
[09 Jan/18:31] <walkndude> hi..how are you?
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[09 Jan/18:33] <Azmodan> `lo `Muff` 
[09 Jan/18:33] <`Muff`> 'lo all
[09 Jan/18:33] ! ^AnG3L^ is known as ^AnG|afk
[09 Jan/18:33] <walkndude> hello `Muff`
[09 Jan/18:33] <`Muff`> Hey Az, dude :)
[09 Jan/18:34] <jet350> Muff! whats up?
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[09 Jan/18:34] <`Muff`> Hola jet... I've been meaning to call you :)
[09 Jan/18:35] <jet350> thats ok just email what you got or I will call monday
[09 Jan/18:35] <`Muff`> If you can come up with a mouse and a monitor I think I have everything else...
[09 Jan/18:36] <LosGuy> hi `Muff`
[09 Jan/18:36] <`Muff`> Hola Los :)
[09 Jan/18:36] <jet350> Ive got them now whats it going to take?
[09 Jan/18:37] <`Muff`> I'll email you the details.  It's kind of a combo.  A working older PC with some newer spare parts thrown in ;)
[09 Jan/18:37] <jet350> ok thanks-did you get my message on that modem?
[09 Jan/18:38] <devilDigg> muff!
[09 Jan/18:38] <`Muff`> devil!  ;)
[09 Jan/18:38] <devilDigg> heh
[09 Jan/18:38] <devilDigg> what processor does the older pc have?
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[09 Jan/18:39] <devilDigg> cj^ you there??
[09 Jan/18:39] <`Muff`> Nope, jet, last msg was about the disappointed neighbor kid...
[09 Jan/18:39] <CJ^> me?
[09 Jan/18:39] <CJ^> nope
[09 Jan/18:39] <CJ^> im gone
[09 Jan/18:39] <devilDigg> heh
[09 Jan/18:39] <devilDigg> very funny
[09 Jan/18:39] <`Muff`> Hey Det
[09 Jan/18:39] <jet350> k
[09 Jan/18:39] <devilDigg> http://dd-soft.tripod.com/pop3dll.htm
[09 Jan/18:39] <CJ^> <<< out gathering p0rn
[09 Jan/18:39] <devilDigg> heh
[09 Jan/18:40] * `Muff` does that in the background while he chats <LOL>
[09 Jan/18:40] <CJ^> wass that?
[09 Jan/18:40] <LosGuy> porn
[09 Jan/18:40] <CJ^> oh  im there!!!!!!!1
[09 Jan/18:40] <LosGuy> thats why he types so slow
[09 Jan/18:40] <devilDigg> cj: if you go you will find out, but its not obligatory to go there
[09 Jan/18:40] <`Muff`> hehehe
[09 Jan/18:40] <devilDigg> heh
[09 Jan/18:41] <`Muff`> LOL Los ;)
[09 Jan/18:41] * devilDigg is looking at his already gathered collection of porn
[09 Jan/18:41] <jet350> incomeing Muff
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[09 Jan/18:42] ! ^AnG|afk is known as ^AnG3L^
[09 Jan/18:43] <devilDigg> cj: tell me what you think of it later or tommorow, i gotta go watch a movie
[09 Jan/18:43] <CJ^> ok
[09 Jan/18:43] <devilDigg> give it a try
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[09 Jan/18:44] <`Muff`> Back atcha jet
[09 Jan/18:46] @ mode #win98 [+vvvvvv `Muff` jet350 walkndude mr_blobby CJ^ osbourne] by Zeus!pegasys@tigerrose.grateful.org
[09 Jan/18:46] @ mode #win98 [+v wez] by Zeus!pegasys@tigerrose.grateful.org
[09 Jan/18:46] <jet350> headed back muff
[09 Jan/18:49] <`Muff`> brb, lease is up on my last beer ;)
[09 Jan/18:49] <LosGuy> ha
[09 Jan/18:49] <Azmodan> lol
[09 Jan/18:49] <Azmodan> hate to see it when he returns the lease
[09 Jan/18:50] <LosGuy> haha
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[09 Jan/18:54] <mr_blobby> hehe
[09 Jan/18:55] <mr_blobby> y is it that u guys dont diss me with this nick?
[09 Jan/18:55] <CJ^> we dont pay attention either way
[09 Jan/18:55] <LosGuy> we decided you like it...so we stopped
[09 Jan/18:55] <mr_blobby> no with the other nick and host ya diss me now ya dont ?
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[09 Jan/18:57] <`Muff`> Why dis mr_blobby?  If it's at all true you're a fat white guy with a hairy back... isn't that dis enough?
[09 Jan/18:58] ! nyme__ is known as nyme
[09 Jan/18:58] <mr_blobby> hmmmmm
[09 Jan/18:58] <`Muff`> hehehe
[09 Jan/18:58] ! mr_blobby is known as pyroboy
[09 Jan/18:58] <pyroboy> now
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[09 Jan/18:59] <`Muff`> Now I would except to show up at a warehouse fire and find you humping a phone pole... is that better?
[09 Jan/18:59] <`Muff`> expect even...
[09 Jan/18:59] ! GuybrBBL is known as Guybrush
[09 Jan/19:01] <pyroboy> hmmm
[09 Jan/19:01] <pyroboy> NO
[09 Jan/19:01] ! pyroboy is known as pyrotater
[09 Jan/19:01] <pyrotater> there
[09 Jan/19:02] <`Muff`> Now you just microwave your baked potatos too long ;)
[09 Jan/19:02] * CJ^ sprinkles salt on th tater and tosses em in the microwave
[09 Jan/19:03] * CJ^ set teh power to NUKE and the timer to 5 hours
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[09 Jan/19:04] <^Vader^> Anyone know if Win98 will run on a 486 for sure?
[09 Jan/19:04] <LosGuy> yes depending on the model
[09 Jan/19:04] <LosGuy> will be slow
[09 Jan/19:04] <LosGuy> need a 486 66 dx min I belive
[09 Jan/19:04] <CJ^> 486DX or better though
[09 Jan/19:04] <^Vader^> Well...it installed on a 486DX4 with 16MB RAM, but having problems while initializing sound card during boot
[09 Jan/19:04] <CJ^> right
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[09 Jan/19:05] <^Vader^> 486DX4/100Mhz
[09 Jan/19:05] <CJ^> well.. htats a sond card issue then....
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[09 Jan/19:05] <mrgone> ugh cant sleep
[09 Jan/19:05] <`Muff`> hola mrgone
[09 Jan/19:05] <`Muff`> hey ptt
[09 Jan/19:05] <LosGuy> hehe well wb mrgone
[09 Jan/19:05] <Ptt> hi
[09 Jan/19:05] <LosGuy> yer not supposed to be sleeping on a sat night at this time
[09 Jan/19:05] <Ptt> I have a question about CDRW
[09 Jan/19:06] <mrgone> i have to work in a few hours
[09 Jan/19:06] @ mode #win98 [+vvv Ptt mrgone ^Vader^] by Zeus!pegasys@tigerrose.grateful.org
[09 Jan/19:06] <`Muff`> Ask away ptt
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[09 Jan/19:07] <CountMech> How do I disable IE5 as my desktop?
[09 Jan/19:07] <Ptt> I burned a music cd on a CDRW cd, but it can't be play on other cd player.... it works fine before when I burned it on a CDR cd.
[09 Jan/19:08] <`Muff`> CDRW is not the media of choice for audio CDs...
[09 Jan/19:08] <^Vader^> uhh...CJ...it's a SB16...pretty standard issue...I can't quite figure out hwat could be causing it to freak while booting...it's almost as if asking a 486DX4/100 to do two things at once is a mistake...
[09 Jan/19:08] <Ptt> Muff.. know what is the problem?
[09 Jan/19:08] <LosGuy> probably cuz that cdpayer doesnt support it
[09 Jan/19:08] <mrgone> some cd players cant read cdrw's
[09 Jan/19:08] <CJ^> ok
[09 Jan/19:08] <CJ^> well your nto running dos drivers for it are you Vader??
[09 Jan/19:09] <Ptt> muff.. so I should just use a CDR cd for music cd?
[09 Jan/19:09] <mrgone> if it wont play in your cd rw its because the sound card cable is hooked to your cd rom and not your cdrw
[09 Jan/19:09] <`Muff`> Always, ptt
[09 Jan/19:09] <Ptt> muff... and use CDRW for data?
[09 Jan/19:09] <mrgone> if it wont play in your cdrom your cd rom wont read cdrw or the cable is to cdrw
[09 Jan/19:09] <mrgone> yea just use cdr for music
[09 Jan/19:10] <^Vader^> no...it was a cold install with after having been fdisked, formatted, and installed after moving all of the cab files to the HDD for installation
[09 Jan/19:10] <`Muff`> ptt, use cdrw for temp stuff and incremental backups, cdr for archives and audio CDs
[09 Jan/19:10] <Ptt> muff.. oh ok.. thanks.
[09 Jan/19:10] <`Muff`> np ;0
[09 Jan/19:11] <Ptt> man.. what am I going to do with all the cdrw that I bought.
[09 Jan/19:11] <CJ^> ok
[09 Jan/19:11] <CJ^> so have ya looked int eh device manager to see if there is a conflict??
[09 Jan/19:11] <LosGuy> vader any what exactly happened during  install?
[09 Jan/19:11] <CJ^> and what Sb 16 is this???
[09 Jan/19:11] <CJ^> there are many.. 
[09 Jan/19:12] <Ptt> later
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[09 Jan/19:14] <^Vader^> cj...can't get that far...it barfs right after installation is complete and it is restarting after the last device scan...in other words after the setup is complete and just the IE preferences have to be set during the first login
[09 Jan/19:14] <CJ^> pull everythign but the video
[09 Jan/19:14] <CJ^> and try that
[09 Jan/19:14] <CJ^> it could just be a conflict
[09 Jan/19:15] <^Vader^> well...hw shit is more than it's worth...
[09 Jan/19:15] <^Vader^> will just go back to win95 and say screw it
[09 Jan/19:16] <`Muff`> `op
[09 Jan/19:16] @ mode #win98 [+o `Muff`] by Proteus!itsnotme@0wned.the.US-GOVT.org
[09 Jan/19:16] <CJ^> heck  try linux then...
[09 Jan/19:16] <CJ^> :P
[09 Jan/19:16] <CountMech> sure
[09 Jan/19:16] <CJ^> 95 b would be preffered
[09 Jan/19:17] <mrgone> so would a new computer
[09 Jan/19:17] <^Vader^> cj...smartass...=)
[09 Jan/19:17] <CJ^> ?
[09 Jan/19:17] <CJ^> i was serious actually..
[09 Jan/19:17] <CJ^> i mnea a ood ole 486 box makes a good linux wks
[09 Jan/19:17] <CJ^> :p
[09 Jan/19:18] <CJ^> gawd cant type tonight
[09 Jan/19:18] <LosGuy> try using BOTH hands
[09 Jan/19:18] <CJ^> OH
[09 Jan/19:18] <CJ^> yeah  that does help...
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[09 Jan/19:20] <mrgone> hehe
[09 Jan/19:20] ! Grem|in^ is known as GizmO^
[09 Jan/19:22] <mrgone> someone make me a pie pls
[09 Jan/19:22] * `Muff` DCCs mrgone 3.14
[09 Jan/19:23] <LosGuy> hahahah
[09 Jan/19:23] <`Muff`> ;)
[09 Jan/19:23] <pyrotater> me makes a pie 4 muff     a MUD pie
[09 Jan/19:23] <pyrotater> splat
[09 Jan/19:24] <`Muff`> pyro, that pie had a hair in it (where's Ed when you really need him?)  <LOL>
[09 Jan/19:24] <CJ^> a mud pie?
[09 Jan/19:24] <LosGuy> 3.1415926535897932384626433832795 (gotta be a bit more accurate `Muff`
[09 Jan/19:25] <CJ^> well he is 14 .. so..
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[09 Jan/19:25] <CJ^> guess he still plays in the sandbox...
[09 Jan/19:25] <MaRVeL> help?
[09 Jan/19:25] <LosGuy> cept cats keep burying him
[09 Jan/19:25] <`Muff`> Hi marvel
[09 Jan/19:25] <MaRVeL> about ftp in dos
[09 Jan/19:25] <`Muff`> ftp in dos?
[09 Jan/19:26] ! Grem|in is known as fire^fish
[09 Jan/19:26] * LosGuy rarely uses dos for FTP
[09 Jan/19:27] <mrgone> lemon marangue pie pls
[09 Jan/19:27] <MaRVeL> yup
[09 Jan/19:27] <MaRVeL> whats the command for upload at ftp dos?
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[09 Jan/19:27] <MaRVeL> and what r remote files and local files?
[09 Jan/19:27] <CJ^> send
[09 Jan/19:27] <`Muff`> brb
[09 Jan/19:28] <MaRVeL> send... then?
[09 Jan/19:28] <MaRVeL> hellow?
[09 Jan/19:29] <CJ^> Marvel
[09 Jan/19:29] <CJ^> at the ftp prompt  do  /?
[09 Jan/19:29] <mrgone> cool horror movie on..
[09 Jan/19:29] <CJ^> it gives ya the commands to use
[09 Jan/19:29] <mrgone> remote are on ftp site local are on your hd right?
[09 Jan/19:29] <CJ^> remote files are those on the ftp site you connect to
[09 Jan/19:29] <CJ^> local files are your files
[09 Jan/19:30] <CJ^> right
[09 Jan/19:30] <MaRVeL> ok
[09 Jan/19:30] <mrgone> ya
[09 Jan/19:30] <mrgone> :)
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[09 Jan/19:32] <MaRVeL> hey
[09 Jan/19:32] <MaRVeL> CJ^: is 
[09 Jan/19:32] <MaRVeL> CJ" how can i see the status of the upload?
[09 Jan/19:33] <CJ^> status
[09 Jan/19:33] <CJ^> you didnt do the  /? yet did ya?
[09 Jan/19:33] <CJ^> the commands are right there...
[09 Jan/19:34] <pyrotater> hmmm
[09 Jan/19:34] <pyrotater> sya guys
[09 Jan/19:34] <MaRVeL> its not working
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[09 Jan/19:34] <MaRVeL> says bad comman
[09 Jan/19:35] <CJ^> ftp /?
[09 Jan/19:35] <CJ^> im looking at it now...
[09 Jan/19:35] <CJ^> just do ?
[09 Jan/19:35] <CJ^> try that
[09 Jan/19:35] <CJ^> works both waya
[09 Jan/19:35] <CJ^> er ways
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[09 Jan/19:40] <LosGuy> wb walkndude
[09 Jan/19:41] <walkndude> thank...my ISP is having DNS problems again
[09 Jan/19:41] <LosGuy> doh wez is also
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[09 Jan/19:42] * CJ^ is secretly nuking the internet   just for kicks.....
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[09 Jan/19:42] <walkndude> I don't disconnected, just goes dead
[09 Jan/19:42] <CJ^> BOOM BEBE BOOM!!
[09 Jan/19:42] * LosGuy has been there
[09 Jan/19:42] <LosGuy> oh ph33r me for I have 28.8
[09 Jan/19:43] <CJ^> lol
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[09 Jan/19:43] <walkndude> there goes muff
[09 Jan/19:43] <LosGuy> haha
[09 Jan/19:43] <LosGuy> that is his usual quit isnt it?
[09 Jan/19:43] <CJ^> 1 down 28 million to go
[09 Jan/19:43] <walkndude> dropping like flies
[09 Jan/19:43] <LosGuy> NEXT
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[09 Jan/19:44] <walkndude> no its the phone call..brb
[09 Jan/19:44] <LosGuy> NEXT
[09 Jan/19:44] <walkndude> great call
[09 Jan/19:44] <mrgone> ah im next
[09 Jan/19:44] <MaRVeL> ey
[09 Jan/19:44] <MaRVeL> CJ
[09 Jan/19:44] <mrgone> ahhh
[09 Jan/19:45] <CJ^> yes?
[09 Jan/19:47] <MaRVeL> how do i upload?
[09 Jan/19:47] <MaRVeL> it doesnt work
[09 Jan/19:47] <walkndude> my nephew wants me to order a P3 650 mhz/Mobo for him
[09 Jan/19:47] <CJ^> well are you on an FTP site that allow you to upload?
[09 Jan/19:47] <mrgone> oh yeah?
[09 Jan/19:47] <MaRVeL> yup
[09 Jan/19:48] <mrgone> well im goin back to bed
[09 Jan/19:48] <MaRVeL> so CJ.. what?
[09 Jan/19:48] <CJ^> ok
[09 Jan/19:48] < SignOff: mrgone!~Webmaster@ts2-156.brg.tallships.ca (im a leech that needs to be bled)
[09 Jan/19:48] <CJ^> so how are you doing it?
[09 Jan/19:48] <MaRVeL> send
[09 Jan/19:48] <CJ^> send c:\dir\file ?
[09 Jan/19:48] <CJ^> ok
[09 Jan/19:48] <CJ^> but how?
[09 Jan/19:48] <MaRVeL> then it popups local file
[09 Jan/19:49] <MaRVeL> then...
[09 Jan/19:49] <walkndude> he wants to rid himself of the E-machine
[09 Jan/19:49] <CJ^> well.. may i suggest a GUI ftp client...
[09 Jan/19:49] <MaRVeL> i put the C:\darknight m9\asdf
[09 Jan/19:49] <MaRVeL> GUI ?
[09 Jan/19:49] <CJ^> yes
[09 Jan/19:49] <LosGuy> interestng idea
[09 Jan/19:49] <LosGuy> haha
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[09 Jan/19:49] <CJ^> graphical user interface
[09 Jan/19:49] <MaRVeL> whats that
[09 Jan/19:50] <CJ^> like FTp exploerer
[09 Jan/19:50] <LosGuy> cute FTP ... ws_FTP
[09 Jan/19:50] <LosGuy> etc
[09 Jan/19:50] <CJ^> ot WS-FTP
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[09 Jan/19:50] <MaRVeL> oh
[09 Jan/19:50] <CJ^> right
[09 Jan/19:50] <MaRVeL> i dont like that
[09 Jan/19:50] <MaRVeL> heehe
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[09 Jan/19:50] <CJ^> cause  if  you have to learn how to use the dos interface.. its gonna be a LONG time
[09 Jan/19:50] <CJ^> you dont like it?
[09 Jan/19:50] <MaRVeL> ehehehe
[09 Jan/19:50] <MaRVeL> nope
[09 Jan/19:50] <CJ^> well.. what are you used to then??
[09 Jan/19:50] <MaRVeL> dos
[09 Jan/19:50] <CJ^> doesnt appear so
[09 Jan/19:51] <walkndude> hard to beat CuteFTP
[09 Jan/19:52] <MaRVeL> hehehe
[09 Jan/19:52] <walkndude> ping me..please
[09 Jan/19:52] <CJ^> marvel  if your not used to DOS ftp  your nto used to DOS..
[09 Jan/19:52] <CJ^> go get a GUI client
[09 Jan/19:53] <LosGuy> unless your running dos..in which case your in the wrong  channel
[09 Jan/19:54] <CJ^> *** CTCP VERSION reply from MaRVeL: mIRC32 v5.61 K.Mardam-Bey<< doesnt like gui???
[09 Jan/19:54] <LosGuy> haha
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[09 Jan/19:54] <LosGuy>  <<ÐêtóÑ8®>> v4.0  Digital Damnation Edition.
[09 Jan/19:54] <LosGuy> has a FTP client built in
[09 Jan/19:55] <walkndude> lucky
[09 Jan/19:56] <MaRVeL> hehehe
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[09 Jan/19:59] <walkndude> still dropping
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[09 Jan/19:59] <SidTrips> Hi.
[09 Jan/20:00] <LosGuy> hi
[09 Jan/20:00] <walkndude> hello
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[09 Jan/20:01] <SidTrips> Quick question...  My wife and I both use the computer...  I want to set up Windows 98 so that we both have a login with specific settings like e-mail.  But, I want it so that unless either my wife or I enter the correct username and password, no one else can get into the system... Can that be done?
[09 Jan/20:02] <LosGuy> set a bios password
[09 Jan/20:02] <LosGuy> or...
[09 Jan/20:02] <SidTrips> Or, do I need NT for that kind of security?
[09 Jan/20:02] <LosGuy> well... NT is more secure
[09 Jan/20:02] <SidTrips> The BIOS password would not be specific to the user...
[09 Jan/20:02] <LosGuy> there is a little freeware app that will just reboot the computer if someone attempts to log on that doesnt enter the correct info
[09 Jan/20:03] <SidTrips> What is that?
[09 Jan/20:03] <LosGuy> hang on
[09 Jan/20:03] <LosGuy> http://www.annoyances.org/cgi-bin/ce-showtopic/003_017
[09 Jan/20:03] <LosGuy> go there
[09 Jan/20:04] <SidTrips> Thanks, I'll try it.
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[09 Jan/20:04] <DMann> hello ppl
[09 Jan/20:04] <DMann> can some help me with an IRQ problem?
[09 Jan/20:05] <walkndude> Losguy, you get the celeron 500 up and running?
[09 Jan/20:05] <LosGuy> yes walkndude... I love it
[09 Jan/20:05] <walkndude> good...pretty fast..eh
[09 Jan/20:05] <LosGuy> DMann... ask
[09 Jan/20:05] <LosGuy> it flys walkndude
[09 Jan/20:05] <LosGuy> q3 is sooooo smooth and looks sooo good
[09 Jan/20:05] <DMann> i have a conflict on one of my NIC's
[09 Jan/20:06] <LosGuy> ISA or PCI DMann?
[09 Jan/20:06] <DMann> PCI
[09 Jan/20:06] <LosGuy> what is conflicting with it?
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[09 Jan/20:07] <DMann> I think it is the other NIC
[09 Jan/20:07] <DMann> one NIC for cable modem
[09 Jan/20:07] <DMann> one for network
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[09 Jan/20:07] <LosGuy> DMann ... start / run type msinfo32
[09 Jan/20:07] <DMann> 1 sec
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[09 Jan/20:07] <LosGuy> under hardware look for IRQs
[09 Jan/20:09] <DMann> in my IRQ's I don't see my network card
[09 Jan/20:09] <LosGuy> in device manager what does it say?
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[09 Jan/20:10] <DMann> says couldn't load device driver
[09 Jan/20:11] <LosGuy> DMann what about the resources that it is using?
[09 Jan/20:11] <LosGuy> what kind of cards?
[09 Jan/20:11] <LosGuy> some nics dont like to share IRQs and require busmastering 
[09 Jan/20:11] <LosGuy> you might make sure one of them is in pci slot one and the other is in slot 2
[09 Jan/20:12] <LosGuy> (slot one will have busmastering but you will need to check your mb manual about the others)
[09 Jan/20:12] <DMann> in resources it has I/O and memory range but no interupt
[09 Jan/20:12] <Meathead> someone please help me.. i installed win 98 for some reason when i type (slash) join in mirc or whereever i get éjoin     where and how did i get é --  all my slash buttons are letters like that
[09 Jan/20:13] <LosGuy> sounds like your using a non US keyabord setup Meathead
[09 Jan/20:13] <Meathead> how can i fix that
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[09 Jan/20:14] <LosGuy> in control panel / keyboards what does it say?
[09 Jan/20:14] <DMann> Losguy: can I assign another IRQ to the second NIC?
[09 Jan/20:14] <CheeseGre> How do I arrange my win98 start menu alphabetically?
[09 Jan/20:14] <Meathead> canadian english
[09 Jan/20:14] <LosGuy> DMann do you have a free IRQ?
[09 Jan/20:15] <LosGuy> Meathead try changing it to US english (I dont know that it will work) but worth a shot
[09 Jan/20:15] <DMann> Los: yes #12
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[09 Jan/20:15] <LosGuy> DMann try it
[09 Jan/20:16] <LosGuy> assign it manually
[09 Jan/20:16] <DMann> one sec
[09 Jan/20:16] <LosGuy> no jumpers on the cards right?
[09 Jan/20:17] <LosGuy> most new PCI cards shouldnt
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[09 Jan/20:18] <DMann> Los: don't think there are jumpers
[09 Jan/20:18] <CheeseGre> I know my question was pretty dumb, but can someone tell me how to arrange my start menu alphabetically?
[09 Jan/20:18] <DMann> the cards r new
[09 Jan/20:19] <LosGuy> CheeseGre do you have IE5"
[09 Jan/20:19] <CheeseGre> yeah
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[09 Jan/20:19] <LosGuy> ok you cant do the first part..but under programs open it then RIGHT click and choose arrange by name
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[09 Jan/20:20] <DMann> Los: ok thought I knew how to change the IRQ manually but I can't select it 
[09 Jan/20:20] <LosGuy> what happens when you try DMann?
[09 Jan/20:20] <DMann> just change change the number
[09 Jan/20:20] <DMann> can't change
[09 Jan/20:21] <CheeseGre> There's no way to make it alphabetic then?
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[09 Jan/20:21] <DMann> I should be in Resources right?
[09 Jan/20:21] <LosGuy> did you do what I said CheeseGre?
[09 Jan/20:21] <CheeseGre> Yeah
[09 Jan/20:21] <LosGuy> yeah DMann
[09 Jan/20:21] <LosGuy> and unselect "automatic"
[09 Jan/20:22] <LosGuy> not on the first part of the start menu CheeseGre
[09 Jan/20:22] <LosGuy> only under programs etc
[09 Jan/20:22] <CheeseGre> I meant under programs
[09 Jan/20:22] <LosGuy> choose sort by name
[09 Jan/20:23] <CheeseGre> ok, thanks
[09 Jan/20:23] <LosGuy> ok open the start menu that far..then RIGHT click on any part of the programs menu and choose "Sort by name"
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[09 Jan/20:23] <DMann> hmmm..clicked change settings and it automatically changed to IRQ9
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[09 Jan/20:24] <LosGuy> ok you should be able to click on it and change them...
[09 Jan/20:25] <DMann> says "no modifications allowed" I think I have to reboot
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[09 Jan/20:25] <LosGuy> yeah
[09 Jan/20:25] <^1664> how do i uninstall a program if it wont let me?
[09 Jan/20:25] <LosGuy> you might try it in safe mode also
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[09 Jan/20:25] <LosGuy> what program  ^1664?
[09 Jan/20:26] <^1664> its called All Aboard
[09 Jan/20:26] <LosGuy> is the program running right now?
[09 Jan/20:26] <^1664> no
[09 Jan/20:26] <^1664> it said there was a currupt uninstall file
[09 Jan/20:26] <LosGuy> ^1664 try booting to safe mode and run uninstall... what does it tell you when you try to uninstall?
[09 Jan/20:26] <LosGuy> oh
[09 Jan/20:27] <LosGuy> good luck
[09 Jan/20:27] <^1664> i tried it
[09 Jan/20:27] <LosGuy> you can delete the folder but then you will have to clean up after it manually
[09 Jan/20:27] <^1664> anywhere in the registry i can look?
[09 Jan/20:27] <LosGuy> try to find an install log
[09 Jan/20:27] <LosGuy> yeah ^1664 ... use the search function in regedit
[09 Jan/20:28] <LosGuy> and it might have entries in other places like win.ini or system.ini  etc
[09 Jan/20:28] <^1664> ugg
[09 Jan/20:28] <LosGuy> might not be easy
[09 Jan/20:28] <LosGuy> and you might try a reg cleaner afterwards
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[09 Jan/20:29] <JP71> I have a cd image file
[09 Jan/20:29] <JP71> anyone know how to extract it?
[09 Jan/20:30] <LosGuy> winimage
[09 Jan/20:30] <JP71> where can i get that?
[09 Jan/20:30] <LosGuy> on the web
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[09 Jan/20:31] <JP71> no shit - can you narrow it down for me?
[09 Jan/20:31] <LosGuy> JP71 no cussing
[09 Jan/20:31] <DMann> Los: rebooted and it still won't let me change the interupt
[09 Jan/20:31] <LosGuy> dont be lame
[09 Jan/20:31] <LosGuy> go find a search engine
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[09 Jan/20:32] <LosGuy> DMann did it change it to 9?
[09 Jan/20:32] <DMann> yes
[09 Jan/20:32] <JP71> ok
[09 Jan/20:32] <JP71> i did it
[09 Jan/20:33] <LosGuy> and I take it that that is not working also  hmm 
[09 Jan/20:33] <JP71> but how do you use that program?
[09 Jan/20:33] <DMann> correct
[09 Jan/20:33] <^1664> uggg....windows
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[09 Jan/20:33] <^1664> thats why im changing to linux
[09 Jan/20:33] <jd67> hi all
[09 Jan/20:34] <jd67> wao, this channel is crowded!
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[09 Jan/20:34] * devilDigg was on with his step fathers nick
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[09 Jan/20:34] <LosGuy> hey devilDigg
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[09 Jan/20:34] <JP71> how do i use winimage?
[09 Jan/20:35] <LosGuy> DMann .. what cards are you using?
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[09 Jan/20:35] <^1664> i hope windows doesn't screw up on me
[09 Jan/20:36] <devilDigg> me and my stepfather are arguing.. in which operating system you make more money? linux or windows nt?
[09 Jan/20:36] * devilDigg says windowsnt
[09 Jan/20:36] <^1664> brb i hop
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[09 Jan/20:39] <SidTrips> Okay, so now I have a separate account set up for windows 98 for my wife and I.  Any way to make IRC and ICQ recognize that we are different people and log us on accordingly?
[09 Jan/20:39] <LosGuy> mIRC just install another instance of it
[09 Jan/20:39] <LosGuy> or copy your current one
[09 Jan/20:40] <LosGuy> to another folder and then set it up
[09 Jan/20:40] <LosGuy> re ICQ I dunno
[09 Jan/20:40] <SidTrips> And have her link to that one instead?
[09 Jan/20:40] <LosGuy> yeah
[09 Jan/20:40] <devilDigg> icq is easy
[09 Jan/20:40] <devilDigg> just register another user, and set security to high..
[09 Jan/20:40] * LosGuy dont do ICQ
[09 Jan/20:41] <SidTrips> Hrm...  Unbelievable there is not a more organized way to do this, with as many multi-ser families in existance...
[09 Jan/20:41] <devilDigg> then when you want to change the user, just go to : 
[09 Jan/20:41] <devilDigg> icq button\add change current user menu\change the activer user
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[09 Jan/20:42] <devilDigg> um about my linux & windows nt ?stion
[09 Jan/20:43] * LosGuy didnt see one devilDigg
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[09 Jan/20:43] <devilDigg> ok wait up
[09 Jan/20:43] <devilDigg> me and my stepfather are arguing.. in which operating system you make more money? linux or windows nt?
[09 Jan/20:43] * devilDigg says windowsnt
[09 Jan/20:43] <LosGuy> [23:36] <devilDigg> me and my stepfather are arguing.. in which operating system you make more money? linux or windows nt?
[09 Jan/20:43] <LosGuy> got it
[09 Jan/20:44] <LosGuy> well a good linux sys admin makes more than a good NT admin
[09 Jan/20:44] <devilDigg> oh my god
[09 Jan/20:44] <LosGuy> err I should say UNIX
[09 Jan/20:44] <devilDigg> im wrong!
[09 Jan/20:44] <devilDigg> oh ok.. unix not linux
[09 Jan/20:44] <devilDigg> but a nt admin, makes more than a LINUX admin?
[09 Jan/20:44] <LosGuy> UNIX is harder
[09 Jan/20:44] <devilDigg> i know..
[09 Jan/20:44] <LosGuy> hehe no... linux is a flavor of unix basicly
[09 Jan/20:45] <devilDigg> and its a he** of a lot harder to crash then windows
[09 Jan/20:45] <LosGuy> hmmm I have done it :P
[09 Jan/20:45] <LosGuy> in fact  Xwindows can do it regularly hehe
[09 Jan/20:45] <devilDigg> heh... bad boy losguy!
[09 Jan/20:45] <devilDigg> oh... well cuz of the name.. :) 
[09 Jan/20:45] <LosGuy> only Xwindows
[09 Jan/20:45] <devilDigg> its in the name :)
[09 Jan/20:46] <devilDigg> j/k
[09 Jan/20:46] <LosGuy> :P
[09 Jan/20:46] <LosGuy> a good unix admin... makes quite a lot more than a NT admin in fact last I heard
[09 Jan/20:46] <devilDigg> los you know anything bout programming
[09 Jan/20:47] <LosGuy> I have done some VB and C++ but none at all for the last year or two
[09 Jan/20:47] <devilDigg> becuz im having problems /w accessing a c++ dll i wrote in vb
[09 Jan/20:47] <devilDigg> i can do it in c++ (i started in vb, but know more c++ than vb now)
[09 Jan/20:47] <devilDigg> so im having some trouble using vb with this dll
[09 Jan/20:47] * LosGuy is rusty and thinks you would have better luck in a programming channel
[09 Jan/20:48] <devilDigg> um if you want to see the dll : http://dd-soft.tripod.com/pop3dll.htm
[09 Jan/20:48] <devilDigg> yea but there is no one in #visualbasic
[09 Jan/20:48] <LosGuy> I heard youtalking about it last night I think
[09 Jan/20:48] <devilDigg> yeah.. with CJ^
[09 Jan/20:50] <devilDigg> and in #c++ this op got pi**ed with me and im banned till monday..
[09 Jan/20:50] <devilDigg> he's abusing power is what i think, but in that channel there is no such thing... 
[09 Jan/20:51] <LosGuy> hehe
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[09 Jan/20:51] <LosGuy> tried #vb
[09 Jan/20:51] <devilDigg> thats a silly channel
[09 Jan/20:52] <devilDigg> for me at least..
[09 Jan/20:52] <LosGuy> hmm
[09 Jan/20:52] <devilDigg> im usually in #visualbasic and #vb-advanced
[09 Jan/20:52] <devilDigg> in fact i help bring #vb-advanced back to undernet, i was a co-founder
[09 Jan/20:53] <LosGuy> hehe
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[09 Jan/21:19] <devilDigg> cj what did you think of the dll
[09 Jan/21:19] <CJ^> didnt try it...
[09 Jan/21:20] <CJ^> what am i gonna use it for anyways?????
[09 Jan/21:20] <devilDigg> i dunno.. check a pop3 mailbox
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[09 Jan/21:23] <Wheyface> suck off
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[09 Jan/21:23] <LosGuy> hmm
[09 Jan/21:24] <devilDigg> you can tell he has no life
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[09 Jan/21:24] <LosGuy> people can get rude when they hide behind a computer
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[09 Jan/21:25] <Cue_Ball> heh
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[09 Jan/21:29] <CJ^> :PP
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[09 Jan/21:43] <`Jedy`> anyone have the win 98 se startup disk ??
[09 Jan/21:43] <CJ^> yeap
[09 Jan/21:43] <CJ^> and if you have win98se   you do to
[09 Jan/21:43] <LosGuy> `Jedy` what OS are you on right now?
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[09 Jan/21:44] <`Jedy`> win 2k
[09 Jan/21:44] <CJ^> oh geeze
[09 Jan/21:44] <`Jedy`> and i want to return to win 98
[09 Jan/21:44] <LosGuy> return? you dont have a boot disk?
[09 Jan/21:44] <Cue_Ball> anyone here have a Reg Key?
[09 Jan/21:44] <Cue_Ball> i seemed to misplace mine
[09 Jan/21:44] <`Jedy`> no i have lost it
[09 Jan/21:44] <Cue_Ball> hehehe
[09 Jan/21:45] <`Jedy`> and I can't boot from my cd with my 486 ;-(
[09 Jan/21:45] * LosGuy thinks that Cue_Ball is risking the wrath of the gods
[09 Jan/21:45] <Cue_Ball> nah
[09 Jan/21:46] <CJ^> `op
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[09 Jan/21:46] <Cue_Ball> I BOUGHT windows
[09 Jan/21:46] <`Jedy`> can you send an image of it to me plz ??
[09 Jan/21:46] <CJ^> no jedy
[09 Jan/21:46] <CJ^> no files...
[09 Jan/21:46] <LosGuy> `Jedy` can you see the topic?
[09 Jan/21:47] <`Jedy`> plz i have no dos system disk in order to install windows....
[09 Jan/21:47] <CJ^> NO
[09 Jan/21:47] <LosGuy> dont ask agian
[09 Jan/21:48] <CJ^> but i bet you $1000 if you search teh net you will find them
[09 Jan/21:48] <`Jedy`> ok ok
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[09 Jan/21:48] <Cue_Ball> windows
[09 Jan/21:49] <Cue_Ball> well
[09 Jan/21:49] <Cue_Ball> I get to go play with my jumpers some more
[09 Jan/21:49] <Cue_Ball> see ya
[09 Jan/21:49] <LosGuy> l8r
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[09 Jan/22:22] <Cue_Ball> :/
[09 Jan/22:23] <Cue_Ball> I hate this PC
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[09 Jan/22:30] <Cue_Ball> anyone know why my PC wouldn't boot windows when I hook this hard drive up?
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[09 Jan/22:40] <Cat`Woman> Cue_Ball explain
[09 Jan/22:41] <Cue_Ball> okz
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[09 Jan/22:41] <Cue_Ball> I got a hard drive from a friend
[09 Jan/22:41] <Cat`Woman> ok and....
[09 Jan/22:41] <Cue_Ball> I want to set it as a slave
[09 Jan/22:41] <Cue_Ball> primary slave
[09 Jan/22:41] <Cat`Woman> ok
[09 Jan/22:42] <Cue_Ball> so
[09 Jan/22:42] <Cue_Ball> I got the info off of their site and I set it like it said
[09 Jan/22:42] <Cat`Woman> and I assume that your other hd is set to primary master and your cdrom is set to secondary master... did you confirm all this in your bios?
[09 Jan/22:43] <Cue_Ball> GAH
[09 Jan/22:43] <Cat`Woman> gah?
[09 Jan/22:43] <Cue_Ball> I didn't set it as my secondary master
[09 Jan/22:43] <Cue_Ball> !
[09 Jan/22:44] <Cat`Woman> don't set the new hd as your secondary master
[09 Jan/22:44] <Cue_Ball> the cdrom
[09 Jan/22:44] <Cat`Woman> set your cdrom as secondary master and set your new hd as primary slave
[09 Jan/22:44] <Cat`Woman> ok
[09 Jan/22:44] <Cat`Woman> do that
[09 Jan/22:44] <Cat`Woman> then come back and let me know how it went
[09 Jan/22:44] <Cue_Ball> do I have to switch any jumpers on my CDROM?
[09 Jan/22:44] <Cat`Woman> yes
[09 Jan/22:44] <Cue_Ball> to primary?
[09 Jan/22:45] <Cat`Woman> to secondary master
[09 Jan/22:45] <Cue_Ball> err
[09 Jan/22:45] <Cue_Ball> master
[09 Jan/22:45] <Cue_Ball> bleh
[09 Jan/22:45] <Cue_Ball> ok
[09 Jan/22:45] <Cue_Ball> and I have to set it as secondery master in my bios?
[09 Jan/22:46] <Cat`Woman> yes
[09 Jan/22:46] <Cue_Ball> alright
[09 Jan/22:46] <Cue_Ball> I will try this AGAIN
[09 Jan/22:46] <Cat`Woman> good luck
[09 Jan/22:46] <Cue_Ball> tnx
[09 Jan/22:46] <Cat`Woman> np
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[09 Jan/23:09] <PeaceFrog> hi
[09 Jan/23:10] <PeaceFrog> I'm only connecting at 19200 and it is pissing me off!
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[09 Jan/23:14] <Cue_Ball> hmm
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[09 Jan/23:54] <atb> so what do i do about running a proxxy
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[10 Jan/00:10] <Deamon93> Hi !
[10 Jan/00:13] <Deamon93> qustion : When you have a computer with 2 lan cards, one connected to the net, the other to an other computer, If u setup tcp/ip, netbei and ipx/spx for the two cards, the first computer will be able to share his files with the other computer ?
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[10 Jan/00:30] <nikos>  goodmorning !!from athens.  please tell me where  can i find drivers for a modem: Online Express M144 AL modem
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[10 Jan/00:40] <nikos>  goodmorning !!from athens.  please tell me where  can i find drivers for a modem: Online Express M144 AL modem
[10 Jan/00:41] <Cue_Ball> no
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[10 Jan/01:28] <dead-nigh> anyone know of a web site that has classic pc games (like double drugon or golden axe) for download?
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[10 Jan/01:52] <SinnyD> I am back :P... With this damn CD-RW driving me crazy again.......
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[10 Jan/03:14] <Elysian> hi
[10 Jan/03:15] <Elysian> `up
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[10 Jan/03:18] <Elysian> `voice *
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[10 Jan/03:18] <Elysian> stupid W
[10 Jan/03:18] <Elysian> `up
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[10 Jan/03:57] <SinnyD> Help help help
[10 Jan/03:58] <Elysian> ?
[10 Jan/03:58] <Elysian> with what?
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[10 Jan/03:59] <SinnyD> This CD-RW is doing my nut in............... right...... I used to have it connected to my HD and then my mother board because I though the IDE lead going from the MB to the floppy drive was also connected to the CD-Rom drive but I found out today its a single IDE lead so I been playin around with the Slave and master but I cant seem to get them to work
[10 Jan/03:59] * SinnyD puffs and pants "If you get my drift
[10 Jan/04:00] <SinnyD> Cause everytime I tried to record from CD to CD my computer would freeze but transferring data to a CD was fine
[10 Jan/04:00] <Elysian> not really
[10 Jan/04:00] <Elysian> do you have the cd and the cdrw on the same cable?
[10 Jan/04:01] <SinnyD> no that's what I'm trying to do :P
[10 Jan/04:01] <SinnyD> But it ain't workin
[10 Jan/04:01] <Elysian> doh
[10 Jan/04:01] <Elysian> ok
[10 Jan/04:01] <Elysian> on the cdrw
[10 Jan/04:01] <Elysian> there are jumpers
[10 Jan/04:01] * SinnyD listens intently and takes notes
[10 Jan/04:01] <Elysian> you have to look in the manual of this
[10 Jan/04:01] <Elysian> make it the master
[10 Jan/04:01] <Elysian> and the cdrom drive
[10 Jan/04:01] <Elysian> has jumpers
[10 Jan/04:01] <Elysian> make it a slave
[10 Jan/04:01] <SinnyD> I know dat.... :) Right and thats it?
[10 Jan/04:02] <Elysian> that would make it work
[10 Jan/04:02] <SinnyD> The jumpers are deiving me crazy
[10 Jan/04:02] <SinnyD> driving too
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[10 Jan/04:02] <SinnyD> :P BRB if it doesn't work :)
[10 Jan/04:02] <SinnyD> Thanks......... stay put just incase
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[10 Jan/04:02] <chosen1> anyone here use netmeeting 3.01?
[10 Jan/04:02] <Elysian> no
[10 Jan/04:02] <Elysian> sorry
[10 Jan/04:02] <Elysian> and it seems no one else is here
[10 Jan/04:02] <Elysian> but
[10 Jan/04:02] <Elysian> whats your ?
[10 Jan/04:03] <chosen1> well i'm not sure if it's my snd card or netmeeting that's tyhe problem
[10 Jan/04:03] <chosen1> i can hear what someone else says, but they can't hear me
[10 Jan/04:04] <Elysian> ok
[10 Jan/04:04] <Elysian> well
[10 Jan/04:04] <Elysian> do this
[10 Jan/04:04] <Elysian> double click on the volume button
[10 Jan/04:04] <Elysian> go to options
[10 Jan/04:04] <Elysian> click propertied
[10 Jan/04:04] <Elysian> s
[10 Jan/04:04] <Elysian> then click the circle thing that says record
[10 Jan/04:04] <Elysian> and press ok
[10 Jan/04:04] <Elysian> see if the mic is muted on that or not
[10 Jan/04:05] <chosen1> no, the mic's not muted, and the audio tuning wizard in netmeeting detects the input ok.
[10 Jan/04:05] <Elysian> hmm
[10 Jan/04:05] <chosen1> i can hear my own voice echoed back through the speakers
[10 Jan/04:05] <Elysian> doh
[10 Jan/04:05] <Elysian> that could be a problem
[10 Jan/04:06] <chosen1> why?
[10 Jan/04:06] <Elysian> ok
[10 Jan/04:06] <Elysian> in the volume control thing
[10 Jan/04:06] <Elysian> go back to properties
[10 Jan/04:06] <Elysian> and click the playback button
[10 Jan/04:06] <Elysian> then click ok
[10 Jan/04:06] <Elysian> then loook at the mic thing and mute it
[10 Jan/04:06] <chosen1> ok
[10 Jan/04:06] <Elysian> i dunno if that'll fix it or not but there is not sposed to be a echo like that
[10 Jan/04:07] <chosen1> i'll try now..
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[10 Jan/04:08] <chosen1> hmm, i can't hear myself through the speakers now... the audio tuning wizard still works... but the volume control in netmeeting doesn't show any readout
[10 Jan/04:08] <chosen1> but perhaps i need to be in a meeting for that to work
[10 Jan/04:09] <chosen1> thanks for your help
[10 Jan/04:09] <chosen1> gotta go and test this out :)
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[10 Jan/04:11] <SinnyD> didn't work
[10 Jan/04:12] <Elysian> doh
[10 Jan/04:12] <Elysian> hmm
[10 Jan/04:12] <Elysian> have you messed around in the bios any?
[10 Jan/04:12] <Elysian> like auto hdd detect?
[10 Jan/04:12] <SinnyD> bios? nope.............
[10 Jan/04:12] <SinnyD> they're all set to auto
[10 Jan/04:12] <Elysian> oh
[10 Jan/04:12] <Elysian> ok
[10 Jan/04:12] <Elysian> hmm
[10 Jan/04:12] <Elysian> it worked before?
[10 Jan/04:13] <SinnyD> Yeah when I had it connected to the HD but it wouldn't burn from CD to CD
[10 Jan/04:13] <Elysian> oh
[10 Jan/04:13] <Elysian> maybe you should make the cdrom drive master and cdrw slave?
[10 Jan/04:14] <SinnyD> hmmmmmmmmmmmmm maybe hehehehe BRB again
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[10 Jan/04:22] <SinnyD> Mp gp :P:
[10 Jan/04:22] <SinnyD> No go wither
[10 Jan/04:22] <SinnyD> either too
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[10 Jan/04:32] <SinnyD> grrrrrrrrrdy grrrrrrrrrrrr grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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[10 Jan/04:48] <kawi> everytime I start windows my networking password thing comes up is there a way that I can set it so it don't?
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[10 Jan/04:54] <Cooljules> is it possible to conect two computers with each other by serial ??
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[10 Jan/05:18] <krik___> Hi there 
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[10 Jan/05:28] <SinnyD> Help help help
[10 Jan/05:28] <SinnyD> !!!!!!!!!!
[10 Jan/05:29] <krik___> No one in here 
[10 Jan/05:29] <SinnyD> After all that I finally got the CD-RW and the CD-Rom detected without the Hard Drive makin funny noises but now my CD drives are running slow and that I am missing the setup DLL files
[10 Jan/05:29] <SinnyD> oh
[10 Jan/05:29] <SinnyD> Poop
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[10 Jan/05:32] <PeaceFrog> hi
[10 Jan/05:33] <PeaceFrog> anyone alive?
[10 Jan/05:33] <SinnyD> Don't ask fer help... they're all sleepin but what are ya needing
[10 Jan/05:33] <PeaceFrog> modem probs
[10 Jan/05:33] <SinnyD> like?
[10 Jan/05:34] <PeaceFrog> I just put a machine together and I can only get the modem to connect at 19200
[10 Jan/05:34] <PeaceFrog> I have to put 3 comma's after the number to get it to connect
[10 Jan/05:34] <PeaceFrog> otherwise it try's to negotiate forever
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[10 Jan/05:36] <`Malc`> mmmmmmmmmmmm
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[10 Jan/05:36] <PeaceFrog> modem probs
[10 Jan/05:36] <PeaceFrog> I just put a machine together and I can only get the modem to connect at 19200
[10 Jan/05:36] <PeaceFrog> I have to put 3 comma's after the number to get it to connect
[10 Jan/05:36] <PeaceFrog> otherwise it try's to negotiate forever
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[10 Jan/05:36] <Sinny`> You been through all yer Dial Up Networking stuff
[10 Jan/05:37] <PeaceFrog> as far as I can tell
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[10 Jan/05:37] <WarnBufet> might want to issure the command AT&F to the modem to reset it to its factory defaults 
[10 Jan/05:37] <WarnBufet> if that works
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[10 Jan/06:10] <^JAMES^> may i get some help
[10 Jan/06:10] <^JAMES^> i put a folder on Hidden and can't get it back ( don't know how )
[10 Jan/06:11] <^JAMES^> ?? anyone
[10 Jan/06:13] <^JAMES^> is there anyone here to help?
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[10 Jan/06:19] <Guesso> # Appears as ARMANDO
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[10 Jan/06:20] <IronEye> Hi!
[10 Jan/06:20] <IronEye> Gotta question
[10 Jan/06:20] <IronEye> I just registered with XOOM, and when I put in my password, I messed up, and I had save to password list clicked, how do I edit the password list?
[10 Jan/06:20] <CJ^> yes?
[10 Jan/06:21] <IronEye> do you know?
[10 Jan/06:21] <CJ^> `op
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[10 Jan/06:22] <IronEye> `op
[10 Jan/06:22] <IronEye> hehe
[10 Jan/06:22] <IronEye> just kiddin'
[10 Jan/06:22] <CJ^> :P
[10 Jan/06:22] <IronEye> do you know?
[10 Jan/06:22] <IronEye> I really need help
[10 Jan/06:22] <^JAMES^> no one is helping anyone in here
[10 Jan/06:22] <CJ^> clear out your cache
[10 Jan/06:23] <IronEye> how do I do that?
[10 Jan/06:23] <^JAMES^> go to (#help)
[10 Jan/06:23] <CJ^> and clear the history folder...
[10 Jan/06:23] <IronEye> I think I tried that on IE
[10 Jan/06:23] <CJ^> and dump the cookies
[10 Jan/06:23] <IronEye> didn't work
[10 Jan/06:23] <IronEye> did it
[10 Jan/06:23] <IronEye> went in manually and deleted the cookies
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[10 Jan/06:24] <CJ^> that should do it....
[10 Jan/06:24] <Guesso> someone knows the diff between  Format and Low Level Format
[10 Jan/06:24] <CJ^> format formats the disk with a File System
[10 Jan/06:25] <IronEye> ok
[10 Jan/06:25] <IronEye> thanks anyway
[10 Jan/06:25] <CJ^> low level sets the the hdd back to factory specs.. writes 0's tot eh hdd
[10 Jan/06:25] <IronEye> see ya later
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[10 Jan/06:29] <Guesso> tks  what is the funion of a file in win called 256?
[10 Jan/06:30] <CJ^> 256 or 386?
[10 Jan/06:31] <CJ^> cause i dont see any file named 256
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[10 Jan/06:31] <x7> hello
[10 Jan/06:32] <x7> I suppose questions on win2000 are out of the question? :)
[10 Jan/06:32] <Guesso> 386 is the swap file
[10 Jan/06:32] <CJ^> being its still BETA till Feb 17th   yeap...
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[10 Jan/06:48] <IronEye> whats new in Win2000 fdrom Win98?
[10 Jan/06:49] <IronEye> besides the fact that we give Bill Gates another Billion
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[10 Jan/06:57] <PeaceFrog> hi
[10 Jan/06:57] <PeaceFrog> how do I get my modem to make sound so I can hear it connect?
[10 Jan/06:58] <PeaceFrog> hey!
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[10 Jan/07:06] <SidTrips> hello?
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[10 Jan/07:23] <D3-d34d> howdy
[10 Jan/07:23] <D3-d34d> DOes anyone know where i can get an internet proxxy from. i meant web proxxy
[10 Jan/07:24] <Raph2000> Microsoft
[10 Jan/07:24] <Raph2000> They have a Proxy 20 trial on their web site to download
[10 Jan/07:24] <Raph2000> server I mean.
[10 Jan/07:24] <D3-d34d> trial 
[10 Jan/07:24] <D3-d34d> =/
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[10 Jan/07:27] <abcdefg> hello
[10 Jan/07:28] <abcdefg> i have some computers on a lan. and the HDD drives are all mapped. how do i run an .exe file on another machine while i'm here.
[10 Jan/07:28] <abcdefg> at this computer
[10 Jan/07:28] <abcdefg> is it possible?
[10 Jan/07:28] <abcdefg> anyone here?
[10 Jan/07:28] <Raph2000> did you try TELNET ?
[10 Jan/07:29] <abcdefg> hmm how do i do that?
[10 Jan/07:29] <abcdefg> i know what telnet is.
[10 Jan/07:29] <Raph2000> from the dos prompt
[10 Jan/07:29] <abcdefg> what port do i connect to and stuff?
[10 Jan/07:29] <Raph2000> do you have any server NT ?
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[10 Jan/07:29] <abcdefg> yeah. but it's from win98 machine - win 98 machine i want to work
[10 Jan/07:30] <Raph2000> you want to work from Win98 and connect to a NT, that is possible
[10 Jan/07:30] <abcdefg> no
[10 Jan/07:30] <CyRuS-> in my burner program it say "work on the fly if possible" what means with that?
[10 Jan/07:30] <abcdefg> i have windows 98 machines all connected
[10 Jan/07:30] <abcdefg> but i am @ one puter but want to execute a .exe file here on anther networker puter
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[10 Jan/07:31] <abcdefg> is it possible?
[10 Jan/07:31] <abcdefg> i have the HDD's mapped here. with full access
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[10 Jan/07:33] <||Blue||> whats the command to unlock a drive?
[10 Jan/07:33] <||Blue||> unlock c: ?
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[10 Jan/07:35] <D3vlin> Raph where is the proxxy
[10 Jan/07:36] <Raph2000> Microsoft web site
[10 Jan/07:36] <Raph2000> Proxy Server 2.0
[10 Jan/07:36] <Raph2000> there is a trial.
[10 Jan/07:38] <D3vlin> i want 3.0
[10 Jan/07:38] <Raph2000> is there a 3.0 ? or Proxy 2000 ?
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[10 Jan/07:39] <abcdefg> helo
[10 Jan/07:39] <abcdefg> back again
[10 Jan/07:40] <abcdefg> is it possible to execut programs from one machine on another.
[10 Jan/07:40] <abcdefg> within a win98 lan
[10 Jan/07:40] <abcdefg> for example a virus scanner
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[10 Jan/07:41] <abcdefg> i have access to the hdd. so can i execte stuff on it. on that puter not the one i'm at
[10 Jan/07:41] <abcdefg> ???
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[10 Jan/07:41] <Raph2000> what is the program you want to exucute ?
[10 Jan/07:42] <abcdefg> virus scanner
[10 Jan/07:42] <abcdefg> anything
[10 Jan/07:42] <abcdefg> mostly executable proggies
[10 Jan/07:42] <abcdefg> i do need to run a virus scanner tho
[10 Jan/07:42] <Raph2000> hum...
[10 Jan/07:42] <jaci> hello, what is the command line for unzupping multiple zip-files, using pkunzip?
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[10 Jan/07:43] <abcdefg> any idea?
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[10 Jan/07:43] <kawi> anyone know how to remove the network password thing when you startup?
[10 Jan/07:43] <D_Diggler> is there a program that will link a number of programs together, when I click my dial up icon I would like a couple of other programs to start at the same time..
[10 Jan/07:43] <NatuScape> Hi! I'm needing assistance with an MS Access query... can anyone help me?
[10 Jan/07:44] <kawi> Natu I know some access ask away
[10 Jan/07:44] <abcdefg> come on guys there must be a way
[10 Jan/07:44] <kawi> abcdefg what's the prob
[10 Jan/07:45] <Raph2000> can't you copy those files over and install them ? abcdefg
[10 Jan/07:45] <abcdefg>  is it possible to execut programs from one machine on another.  within a win98 lan
[10 Jan/07:45] <abcdefg> i have access to the hdd. so can i execte stuff on it. on that puter not the one i'm at
[10 Jan/07:45] <SidTrips> Would someone please tell me how to set up multiple users with MS Outlook 2K so that they each have their own accounts for everything from e-mail to contacts?
[10 Jan/07:45] <abcdefg> they are installed
[10 Jan/07:45] <kawi> abc sure if you have your network setup as peer to peer and full sharing
[10 Jan/07:45] <abcdefg> but i want to run stuff from this puter
[10 Jan/07:46] <NatuScape> kawi: thanks! the problem is really dumb... there are two tables with a related field that doesn't have referntial integrity (i slipped there, it should have) the thing is that some info changed on the "mother" table and i want to make a query to update the "daughter" table and then set referntial integrity..... how can i do this?
[10 Jan/07:46] <abcdefg> coz i have access to the other puters.
[10 Jan/07:46] <abcdefg> but when i double click a proggie on the HDD it executes on this system. 
[10 Jan/07:46] <abcdefg> i want it to execute on that sys!
[10 Jan/07:47] <Raph2000> so you want to remotly execute program ?
[10 Jan/07:47] <kawi> Natu usually you have to redo you relationships
[10 Jan/07:47] <abcdefg> yeah that's the word
[10 Jan/07:47] <abcdefg> remotely do it
[10 Jan/07:47] <NatuScape> kawi... ouch!
[10 Jan/07:47] <Raph2000> Netmeeting or PCAnywhere
[10 Jan/07:47] ! NatuScape is known as Natalia
[10 Jan/07:47] <abcdefg> that the only way?
[10 Jan/07:47] <kawi> Natu I hear ya
[10 Jan/07:47] <D_Diggler> is there a program that will link a number of programs togeth
[10 Jan/07:47] <D_Diggler> lick my dial up icon I would like a couple of other programs to start at the same time..
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[10 Jan/07:48] <Raph2000> that's 2 ways already.
[10 Jan/07:48] <Natalia> kawi: ok.... i'll think of smth else....
[10 Jan/07:48] <abcdefg> ok
[10 Jan/07:48] <kawi> heh
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[10 Jan/07:48] <abcdefg> what else is there. without having to go round installing netmeeting
[10 Jan/07:48] <Raph2000> netmeeting's free 
[10 Jan/07:48] <abcdefg> i know
[10 Jan/07:49] <kawi> Raph he shouldn't have to do that
[10 Jan/07:49] <Natalia> kawi: how do i select the three rightmost characters in a field? can i use that to compare in the query instead of the whole field?
[10 Jan/07:49] <Raph2000> so what else ?
[10 Jan/07:49] <abcdefg> isn't there just a command to do it?
[10 Jan/07:49] <Raph2000> but you also want to see the result on your screen ?
[10 Jan/07:49] <abcdefg> no need to see the results
[10 Jan/07:49] <kawi> usually when you have peer to peer and full sharing you can run prog that is on other computers
[10 Jan/07:49] <abcdefg> just execute
[10 Jan/07:50] <abcdefg> all i want to do is execute
[10 Jan/07:50] <abcdefg> how is it done?
[10 Jan/07:50] <Raph2000> I thought about TELNET
[10 Jan/07:50] <kawi> abcdefg ok I think I misunderstood your question
[10 Jan/07:50] <Raph2000> but you have to install a telnet server 
[10 Jan/07:50] <abcdefg> ah i c
[10 Jan/07:50] <kawi> do a search for vnc it's free
[10 Jan/07:50] <abcdefg> i get ya now
[10 Jan/07:51] <kawi> it's great you can run your computer from anyway
[10 Jan/07:51] <abcdefg> ok cheers!!
[10 Jan/07:51] <kawi> anyone on your network and anywhere else if it's connected to the internet
[10 Jan/07:51] <krik> How can I do ping from a shell ?
[10 Jan/07:51] <krik> something ..
[10 Jan/07:52] * kawi says man I can't type today heh
[10 Jan/07:52] <kawi> Natalia sorry what was your last question?
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[10 Jan/07:52] <kawi> anyone here know how to get ride off the logon screen on startup?
[10 Jan/07:53] <Natalia> kawi: how do i select the three rightmost characters in a field? can i use that to compare in the query instead of the whole field?
[10 Jan/07:53] <Raph2000> change the Username and do not enter a password..press enter
[10 Jan/07:53] <LadyReed> I am having problems printing off the net...my printer is not being identified
[10 Jan/07:53] <kawi> Raph didn't work
[10 Jan/07:54] <kawi> Natalia I far as I kow you need the whole field
[10 Jan/07:54] <kawi> but again I'm not an expert with access
[10 Jan/07:54] <kawi> :)
[10 Jan/07:54] <krik> Kawi ...why don't you delete   that logon 
[10 Jan/07:54] <abcdefg> kawi
[10 Jan/07:54] <Natalia> k.... thanks kawi.... i'll see what i can do! :)
[10 Jan/07:54] <kawi> krik true
[10 Jan/07:54] <abcdefg> can use tweekui
[10 Jan/07:54] <Raph2000> remove Client Micro from TCP/IP config
[10 Jan/07:55] <abcdefg> it's on the win98 cd
[10 Jan/07:55] <kawi> cool
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[10 Jan/07:55] <abcdefg> or go into network neighbourhood and choose Windows Logon
[10 Jan/07:55] <kawi> bbl
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[10 Jan/07:56] <abcdefg> what's the Full name of VNC?
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[10 Jan/07:56] <krik> Kawi ..use Tweak ui
[10 Jan/07:56] <krik> ist very easy
[10 Jan/07:56] <Raph2000> http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/   ABCDEG
[10 Jan/07:57] <abcdefg> k
[10 Jan/07:58] <LadyReed> ralph...how do i get win98 to identify my printer and get it to print?
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[10 Jan/08:00] <LadyReed> hello?
[10 Jan/08:00] <Raph2000> hang on...
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[10 Jan/08:01] <Raph2000> did you try to add a printer the regular way ?
[10 Jan/08:02] <LadyReed> it's been hooked up and workiung....but all of a sudden it's not being identified apparently
[10 Jan/08:02] <Raph2000> did you check your cable ?
[10 Jan/08:02] <LadyReed> yes and it looks ok
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[10 Jan/08:03] <Raph2000> there are some settings in the Bios that you can check too
[10 Jan/08:03] <LadyReed> how do i do that?
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[10 Jan/08:04] <Raph2000> any Guys here can help for the Bios settigns ?
[10 Jan/08:04] <hmc> hello
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[10 Jan/08:04] <hmc> i help of win98
[10 Jan/08:05] <fuhkhead> I tried going to #win95 for help but know one is there can someone help me here for win 95
[10 Jan/08:05] <hmc> exist anyone service pack for win98 osr-2??
[10 Jan/08:06] <Raph2000> sorry LadyReed I have to go now...bye
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[10 Jan/08:06] * LadyReed sighs
[10 Jan/08:06] <LadyReed> so where can I get help????
[10 Jan/08:06] <hmc> anybody speak spanish??
[10 Jan/08:09] <hmc> ladyreed help me about win98 osr-2?
[10 Jan/08:10] <LadyReed> not me
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[10 Jan/08:22] <_EKG_> i just got a geforce 3d prophet and my pc freezes now what gives?
[10 Jan/08:22] <_EKG_> freezes when i run like fly and halflife for a few minutes
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[10 Jan/08:25] <hmc> anybody speak spanish??
[10 Jan/08:25] <hmc> ladyreed help me about win98 osr-2?
[10 Jan/08:25] <hmc> exist anyone service pack for win98 osr-2??
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[10 Jan/08:45] <MaDkOw> in order to network my 2 computers (one running 95, the other 98) i'd need wingate to network them? so i can use network neighborhood?
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[10 Jan/08:46] <Deton8R> you can network them using 2 NIC's and a hub
[10 Jan/08:47] <Deton8R> and tcp/ip...
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[10 Jan/08:47] <Deton8R> all done through control panel
[10 Jan/08:47] <Deton8R> you'd need wingate for one to act as an internet server for the other
[10 Jan/08:47] <Deton8R> if that's what you wanted to do
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[10 Jan/08:47] <fuhkhead> can anyone help me with a win95 problem
[10 Jan/08:47] <Deton8R> if you had ICS which comes installed in win98 SE, you wouldn't need wingate
[10 Jan/08:48] <Deton8R> uh, fuhkhead, we can try
[10 Jan/08:48] <Deton8R> though we're not too keen on your nick
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[10 Jan/08:48] <fuhkhead> ok then i will leave
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[10 Jan/08:48] <Deton8R> what a nice fellow
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[10 Jan/08:49] <Cat`Woman> yeah
[10 Jan/08:49] <Cat`Woman> peachy
[10 Jan/08:49] <Spudz> Anyone know why my puter turns on with a recieving phone call ?
[10 Jan/08:50] <Deton8R> yes
[10 Jan/08:50] <Deton8R> it's set to wake on modem
[10 Jan/08:50] <Deton8R> similar to wake on lan
[10 Jan/08:50] <Deton8R> it's a bios setting
[10 Jan/08:50] <Deton8R> think it's an award bios setting
[10 Jan/08:50] <Spudz> I checked it but its disabled
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[10 Jan/08:50] <Mr407> anyone here use aol and free agent?
[10 Jan/08:51] <Spudz> I using a network card , anything to do with that ?
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[10 Jan/08:56] <Ateno> greeting
[10 Jan/08:56] <Ateno> s
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[10 Jan/08:58] <ravuhX> Ok
[10 Jan/08:58] <ravuhX> is this nick better
[10 Jan/08:58] <Ateno> Ive got a strange question about aranging icons
[10 Jan/08:59] <ravuhX> can i ask a win95 question
[10 Jan/08:59] <Ateno> Ive got a dir that is all out of order... I clicked auto arrange and arrange by name... they went in order then
[10 Jan/09:00] <Ateno> I closed the dir then opened it again and they were messed up again
[10 Jan/09:00] <Ateno> what can I do to fix it?
[10 Jan/09:00] <ravuhX> i tried #win95 but know one was there
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[10 Jan/09:00] <Super-Z> hello?
[10 Jan/09:01] <Ateno> it seems as if no one is alive in here eather
[10 Jan/09:01] <Super-Z> anyone got a program where i can transfer files through a parallel cable to another computer???
[10 Jan/09:01] <Ateno> not loaded on my puter
[10 Jan/09:01] <Super-Z> you know where i can get it>
[10 Jan/09:01] <Super-Z> ?
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[10 Jan/09:02] <Ateno> well you can buy it from any computer store
[10 Jan/09:02] <Super-Z> oh gee thanks
[10 Jan/09:02] <Super-Z> i knew that
[10 Jan/09:02] <MaDkOw> hrmmm
[10 Jan/09:03] <MaDkOw> ok -- now im confused
[10 Jan/09:03] <MaDkOw> i am so lame
[10 Jan/09:03] <MaDkOw> when it comes to networking
[10 Jan/09:03] <MaDkOw> all i wanna do is to beable to use this cable connection on the other pc.. along with sharing files
[10 Jan/09:03] <MaDkOw> how do i setup network neighborhood?
[10 Jan/09:03] <MaDkOw> should i just add a user
[10 Jan/09:03] <MaDkOw> with the DOMAIN?
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[10 Jan/09:04] <ravuhX> The computer was givin to me and i guess it has a virus and it wont let me boot into the normal win95 just to safe mode and i need to format it but it wont let me format in safe mode
[10 Jan/09:04] <MaDkOw> use dos mode
[10 Jan/09:04] <MaDkOw> not safe mode
[10 Jan/09:05] <MaDkOw> try to just boot straight into unprotected dos prompt
[10 Jan/09:05] <ravuhX> It wont restart into dos
[10 Jan/09:05] <MaDkOw> thats odd
[10 Jan/09:06] <MaDkOw> hrmmm
[10 Jan/09:06] <MaDkOw> does it boot into safe dos mode?
[10 Jan/09:06] <ravuhX> I hit f8
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[10 Jan/09:06] <ravuhX> and it has a unupdated dos mode
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[10 Jan/09:07] <MaDkOw> thats odd
[10 Jan/09:07] <MaDkOw> old comp i guess
[10 Jan/09:07] <MaDkOw> use the unupdated one
[10 Jan/09:07] <MaDkOw> and format thru there
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[10 Jan/09:12] <MaDkOw> in order to network my 2 computers (one running 95, the other 98) i'd need wingate to network them? so i can use network neighborhood?
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[10 Jan/09:14] <jd67> hi all
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[10 Jan/09:14] <MaDkOw> sup
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[10 Jan/09:21] <devilDigg> wb Cat`Woman, wb CJ^
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[10 Jan/09:21] <Cat`Woman> thx
[10 Jan/09:21] <g0> !lastspoke CJ^
[10 Jan/09:21] <g0> hey CJ^
[10 Jan/09:21] <g0> U there?
[10 Jan/09:22] <CJ^> yes...
[10 Jan/09:22] <g0> remember me from yesterday?
[10 Jan/09:22] <g0> SiS
[10 Jan/09:22] <g0> ?
[10 Jan/09:22] <g0> I got it work
[10 Jan/09:22] <g0> er i mean i got it to work
[10 Jan/09:22] <CJ^> oh?
[10 Jan/09:22] <CJ^> updated the drivers?
[10 Jan/09:22] <g0> yeah, it was in the network settings
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[10 Jan/09:22] <g0> no updates
[10 Jan/09:23] <g0> just removed "client for MS networks"
[10 Jan/09:23] <g0> and added "MS family logon"
[10 Jan/09:23] <g0> works dandy
[10 Jan/09:23] <g0> no stupid MSN error msgs
[10 Jan/09:23] <CJ^> msn  was just msnetwork client
[10 Jan/09:24] <g0> yeah, hence the stupid errors
[10 Jan/09:24] <g0> i guess the drivers for the onboard piece o sh!t NIC got MS family logon as well as client for MSN
[10 Jan/09:25] <g0> i just removed the client and the family logon took over
[10 Jan/09:25] <g0> and no more stupid errors
[10 Jan/09:25] <CJ^> well.. family login is fine..
[10 Jan/09:25] <g0> seems to work
[10 Jan/09:25] <CJ^> client is default for MS networks
[10 Jan/09:25] <g0> just thought i'd let you know in case someone else in my predicament drops by and has the same problem
[10 Jan/09:26] <CJ^> :P
[10 Jan/09:26] <CJ^> true....
[10 Jan/09:26] <g0> ;-) oh c'mon you know it'll happen;-)
[10 Jan/09:26] <CJ^> oh  yeah
[10 Jan/09:26] <CJ^> BUT see when i was going over all this with ya..
[10 Jan/09:26] <CJ^> thought you said you removed and reinstalled networking?
[10 Jan/09:26] <g0> no, removed and reinstalled the MSN
[10 Jan/09:27] <g0> i hate that thing
[10 Jan/09:27] <CJ^> lol
[10 Jan/09:27] <g0> but every esoteric piece of junk is working in harmony now :-)
[10 Jan/09:27] <g0> gotta love windows for its compatability
[10 Jan/09:27] <CJ^> heh well kewl...
[10 Jan/09:27] <g0> here's a question for ya though:
[10 Jan/09:27] <g0> i think i'm gonna upgrade to win2000 or win98se
[10 Jan/09:28] <g0> that should keep my previous settings right?
[10 Jan/09:28] <CJ^> win2k
[10 Jan/09:28] <CJ^> WILL NOT LIKE THE SIS
[10 Jan/09:28] <g0> or am i gonna have to trouble shoot the whole damn thing over again?
[10 Jan/09:28] <CJ^> been there done that...
[10 Jan/09:28] <g0> how about se?
[10 Jan/09:28] <CJ^> NT4 has no trouble with it... Win2k will
[10 Jan/09:28] <g0> like what?
[10 Jan/09:28] <CJ^> Se will be the same as 98 actually...
[10 Jan/09:28] <g0> what kind of problems?
[10 Jan/09:28] <g0> cool
[10 Jan/09:29] <g0> maybe i'll just go se
[10 Jan/09:29] <g0> with office2000
[10 Jan/09:29] <CJ^> SiS was dropped from WHQL for failing to provide workable drivers..
[10 Jan/09:29] <CJ^> the drivers you see half the time in windows.. are MS made..
[10 Jan/09:29] <g0> ;-) nice. that's why its so cheap
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[10 Jan/09:29] <g0> well if you have the time and patience, anything can be troubleshot ;-)
[10 Jan/09:30] <CJ^> just about...
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[10 Jan/09:30] <g0> so do you know what specifically, win2k has problems with in the SiS stuff?
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[10 Jan/09:30] <g0> and what's so cool about win2k over 98se anyhow?
[10 Jan/09:30] <CJ^> win2k is NT5
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[10 Jan/09:30] <CJ^> dont compare the two
[10 Jan/09:31] <g0> oh so there are 50+ ways to hack into it then?
[10 Jan/09:31] <CJ^> win2k would a) never install on SiS based systems  or b) break during stress runs... related to teh chipset
[10 Jan/09:31] <g0> its just a server OS then?
[10 Jan/09:31] <CJ^> no
[10 Jan/09:31] <Raph2000> have you tried Millenium from Microsoft yet ? I have a beta, but didn't try it
[10 Jan/09:31] <CJ^> its NT
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[10 Jan/09:31] <CJ^> like wks, serv, adv serv
[10 Jan/09:31] <CJ^> same as NT4
[10 Jan/09:31] <g0> gotcha
[10 Jan/09:31] <CJ^> just PnP and a lot more features
[10 Jan/09:31] <g0> sounds like win98se is my best bet then
[10 Jan/09:32] <g0> do you know what makes se better than original 98?
[10 Jan/09:32] <Raph2000> WIN2K is supposed to be more powerful than Win98
[10 Jan/09:32] <g0> <---- not knowledgable about windows software
[10 Jan/09:32] <Cat`Woman> `voice cat`woman
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[10 Jan/09:32] <g0> raph2000 well in MS's vocab powerful = compatible or more expensive ;_)
[10 Jan/09:33] <CJ^> Raph.. win2k is NT
[10 Jan/09:33] <CJ^> dont compare the two OS's
[10 Jan/09:33] <CJ^> they cannot be compared
[10 Jan/09:33] <Raph2000> It's based on NT but it's different
[10 Jan/09:33] <Cat`Woman> `voice cj^
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[10 Jan/09:33] <CJ^> no its not
[10 Jan/09:33] <g0> ok then CJ^ how about the diff between 98 and se?
[10 Jan/09:33] <CJ^> IE5 and ics and a few more bug fixes go  thats really all
[10 Jan/09:33] <g0> i want to find out if upgrading to se is worth my while or not
[10 Jan/09:33] <Raph2000> You have Directx 7 on Win2K
[10 Jan/09:34] <Raph2000> no on NT4
[10 Jan/09:34] <g0> hmmm, i hate IE . . .but bug fixes are nice
[10 Jan/09:34] <CJ^> Raph... did you work for the NT HCT team in WHQL testing Wink2 for 9 months at Microsoft??
[10 Jan/09:34] <Raph2000> why ?
[10 Jan/09:34] <CJ^> cause I did....
[10 Jan/09:34] <g0> i assume you did CJ^?
[10 Jan/09:34] <g0> yep :-)
[10 Jan/09:34] <Raph2000> and did you enjoy it ?
[10 Jan/09:34] <CJ^> so.. you wanna tell me  what you heard about Win2k now.. and ill tell ya what i KNOW
[10 Jan/09:34] <g0> that's why you're always here
[10 Jan/09:35] <CJ^> heck yeah i did
[10 Jan/09:35] <Raph2000> I have Win2K here hehe
[10 Jan/09:35] <CJ^> gee.. ya do....
[10 Jan/09:35] <g0> here's another question for ya CJ^
[10 Jan/09:36] <CJ^> doesnt make ya an expert...
[10 Jan/09:36] <CJ^> bottom line..
[10 Jan/09:36] <CJ^> its not just based on NT  it is NT
[10 Jan/09:36] <Raph2000> what's wron CJ^?
[10 Jan/09:36] <g0> what makes office 2000 better than office 97
[10 Jan/09:36] <CJ^> NT5
[10 Jan/09:36] <CJ^> Raph  it was the ignorant comment...
[10 Jan/09:36] <CJ^> g0... heh
[10 Jan/09:36] <g0> ;-)
[10 Jan/09:36] <CJ^> well.. O2k i do lke...  but gawd its a hog
[10 Jan/09:36] <g0> lemmie guess: bug fixes?
[10 Jan/09:36] <g0> cool
[10 Jan/09:36] <g0> gonna have to install that one then
[10 Jan/09:36] <CJ^> no 
[10 Jan/09:36] <CJ^> more than that
[10 Jan/09:36] <CJ^> way more
[10 Jan/09:36] <g0> win98se with offixe2k
[10 Jan/09:37] <g0> lay it one me: what's cool?
[10 Jan/09:37] <CJ^> ya dont even wanna know what the full install will take up....
[10 Jan/09:37] <devilDigg> brb
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[10 Jan/09:37] <CJ^> over 4 gigs on teh FULL install...
[10 Jan/09:37] <CJ^> but thats if you have the Prem version...
[10 Jan/09:37] <g0> Holy . . .SH!
[10 Jan/09:37] <CJ^> yeah
[10 Jan/09:37] <g0> what the hell takes up that much space?
[10 Jan/09:37] <CJ^> Win2.. needs 908mb for install.. hows that for a kick in the pants
[10 Jan/09:37] <CJ^> all the apps..
[10 Jan/09:38] <CJ^> i mean.. the WHOLE office suite
[10 Jan/09:38] <g0> yikes.
[10 Jan/09:38] <g0> is it still word, PP, Excell?
[10 Jan/09:38] <CJ^> not just word, or excel... i mean FP.. MS Photo...
[10 Jan/09:38] <CJ^> the works..
[10 Jan/09:38] <g0> hmmm
[10 Jan/09:38] <g0> cool
[10 Jan/09:38] <CJ^> base is a littel mroe than 97 was
[10 Jan/09:38] <g0> that's worthwhile
[10 Jan/09:38] <g0> rockin
[10 Jan/09:38] <CJ^> well..
[10 Jan/09:39] <CJ^> personally i like Outlook 2k
[10 Jan/09:39] <CJ^> and FP 2k
[10 Jan/09:39] <g0> what is fp?
[10 Jan/09:39] <CJ^> other than that...
[10 Jan/09:39] <CJ^> its all about the same
[10 Jan/09:39] <CJ^> BUT
[10 Jan/09:39] <Raph2000> Photodraw is a good program too...I think.
[10 Jan/09:39] <CJ^> it does finally have the internet sharing of Office files that was promised in office 95
[10 Jan/09:39] <g0> hmmm
[10 Jan/09:39] <CJ^> yeah Photo is far better...
[10 Jan/09:39] <g0> what is FP?
[10 Jan/09:40] <Raph2000> FrontPage
[10 Jan/09:40] <g0> oh yeah
[10 Jan/09:40] <Raph2000> I've heard it was bad..but don't use it though
[10 Jan/09:40] <g0> I think this soho is only gonna really need word and powerpoint
[10 Jan/09:40] <g0> thanks for your help again CJ!
[10 Jan/09:41] <CJ^> np
[10 Jan/09:41] <g0> if i have trouble with 98se or office2k I'll be back;-)
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[10 Jan/09:43] <Raph2000> CJ^ can I ask you smth about W2K ?
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[10 Jan/09:43] <CJ^> shoot...
[10 Jan/09:44] <Raph2000> i didn't study it yet, but I will have to for my work,...
[10 Jan/09:44] <Raph2000> In Win9x you can boot up   with no No Logon Screen.. no password, I know that you can also do that in NT5, my question is :
[10 Jan/09:45] <Raph2000> DO they use some kind of Username/password in the background ?
[10 Jan/09:45] <CJ^> no
[10 Jan/09:45] <Raph2000> cause you can't do that in NT4
[10 Jan/09:45] <CJ^> autologon
[10 Jan/09:45] <CJ^> www.ntfaq.com
[10 Jan/09:45] <CJ^> yes 
[10 Jan/09:45] <CJ^> NT4 and win2k can do the same thing..
[10 Jan/09:45] <CJ^> but..
[10 Jan/09:45] <CJ^> it negates the security
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[10 Jan/09:46] <CJ^> http://www.ntfaq.com/ntfaq/sysconf84.html
[10 Jan/09:46] <CJ^> right there
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[10 Jan/10:52] <CJ^> ISA or PCI?
[10 Jan/10:52] <kawi> isa
[10 Jan/10:52] <BabeCakes> sounds like ISA
[10 Jan/10:53] <CJ^> ok
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[10 Jan/10:54] <BabeCakes> Hi Deton
[10 Jan/10:54] <CJ^> hm
[10 Jan/10:54] <CJ^> no mention of OPL2 at all...
[10 Jan/10:54] <CJ^> the chipset is OPL2??
[10 Jan/10:55] <Deton8R> aloha
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[10 Jan/10:55] <kawi> only says opl
[10 Jan/10:55] <CJ^> ok
[10 Jan/10:55] <Deton8R> I suspect it's opl3/sa2
[10 Jan/10:55] <CJ^> then try the most recent OPL3 drivers then
[10 Jan/10:55] <Deton8R> most likely
[10 Jan/10:55] <BabeCakes> CJ.. could it be Vesa?
[10 Jan/10:55] <Deton8R> it's very common
[10 Jan/10:55] <CJ^> yeah
[10 Jan/10:55] <CJ^> see OPL3 and 4 are the only ones i see
[10 Jan/10:55] <Deton8R> you'll find opl3/saX drivers out there
[10 Jan/10:56] <kawi> yup seen that one everywhere
[10 Jan/10:56] <CJ^> http://www.yamahayst.com/faq.htm   << check that
[10 Jan/10:56] <BabeCakes> gotta go... fever is climbing.. 
[10 Jan/10:56] <CJ^> shows ya who may have made it
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[10 Jan/10:56] <CJ^> l8r BC
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[10 Jan/11:00] <CJ^> hmm
[10 Jan/11:00] <CJ^> and according to the web site.. yer problems with the car are just a driver issue..  recommend getting latest drivers...
[10 Jan/11:00] <CJ^> cant hurt really..
[10 Jan/11:01] <kawi> yup getting them now 
[10 Jan/11:01] <kawi> tnx for the help :)
[10 Jan/11:02] <kawi> not that it really matters it's only for my linux box
[10 Jan/11:02] <kawi> or sorry
[10 Jan/11:02] <kawi> heh
[10 Jan/11:02] <kawi> old box
[10 Jan/11:02] <kawi> bbl
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[10 Jan/11:03] <CJ^> ?
[10 Jan/11:03] <CJ^> ok...
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[10 Jan/11:03] <tms502> cj: can you help me from where me and babecakes left off
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[10 Jan/11:13] <MoseKnows> are there folks here who can help witn a windows question?
[10 Jan/11:14] <MoseKnows> thanks
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[10 Jan/11:19] <tms502> cj: can you help me from where me and babecakes left off
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[10 Jan/11:27] <CJ^> sure
[10 Jan/11:28] <CJ^> now..  what are you in right now??
[10 Jan/11:28] <CJ^> win98 or 95?
[10 Jan/11:29] <tms502> 98
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[10 Jan/11:29] <tms502> I am on my other computer
[10 Jan/11:29] <CJ^> ok so make a 98 boot disk
[10 Jan/11:30] <tms502> well the other computer is 95
[10 Jan/11:30] <CJ^> wont matter
[10 Jan/11:30] <tms502> ok how do i make a 98 boot disk
[10 Jan/11:30] <tms502> I hate aol
[10 Jan/11:30] <tms502> Opps
[10 Jan/11:30] <tms502> wrong window
[10 Jan/11:30] <tms502> haha
[10 Jan/11:31] <CJ^> add/remove programs
[10 Jan/11:31] <CJ^> Windows Setup tab
[10 Jan/11:31] <CJ^> now  for the virus.. have you got a DOS leverl virus scanner?
[10 Jan/11:32] <tms502> i did a boot disk already it says it is the wrong style dos
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[10 Jan/11:32] <CJ^> with a 98 boot disk?
[10 Jan/11:33] <tms502> Yeah
[10 Jan/11:33] <CJ^> but the system booted correct?
[10 Jan/11:33] <CJ^> or did you get that error while booting?
[10 Jan/11:33] <CJ^> if so  is the boot disk at fault..
[10 Jan/11:34] <tms502> Yeah it was the boot disk
[10 Jan/11:34] <tms502> I got it while i was booting
[10 Jan/11:35] <tms502> so what are you up to
[10 Jan/11:35] <tms502> damnit
[10 Jan/11:35] <tms502> wrong window again
[10 Jan/11:35] <tms502> I am stupid
[10 Jan/11:35] <CJ^> make a new boot disk then
[10 Jan/11:36] <tms502> If i installed linux would it format my computer for me
[10 Jan/11:36] <CJ^> the boot disk should not say wrong version unless it has been tampered with...
[10 Jan/11:36] <CJ^> yeah...
[10 Jan/11:36] <MaDkOw> i lost my Win95 cd.. does anyone know where i can get the vxd's dll's etc. for the network setup?
[10 Jan/11:36] <CJ^> if you tell it to take over teh whl disk
[10 Jan/11:36] <reebok> www.windrivers.com has links to a lot of vxd's/dll's
[10 Jan/11:37] <tms502> I am thinking about just installing linux over it
[10 Jan/11:37] <CJ^> well do you know how to run and use linux?
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[10 Jan/11:38] <devilDigg> hi all
[10 Jan/11:39] <CJ^> dd
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[10 Jan/11:39] <tms502> Yeah
[10 Jan/11:40] <CJ^> then do it...
[10 Jan/11:40] <tms502> cj^: I am in www.bootdisk.com
[10 Jan/11:40] <CJ^> ok  and?
[10 Jan/11:40] <CJ^> why did ya go there?
[10 Jan/11:40] <CJ^> you have the means to make the win98 boot disk
[10 Jan/11:40] <reebok> linux boot disks
[10 Jan/11:40] <reebok> hehe
[10 Jan/11:41] <CJ^> or a linux boot disk for that matter...
[10 Jan/11:41] <tms502> cj^: i have windows 95 4.00.950 is that a or b
[10 Jan/11:41] <CJ^> A i believe
[10 Jan/11:41] <reebok> a
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[10 Jan/11:44] <CJ^> hmm he still didnt asnwer me as to WHY he needs to goto bootdisk.com when he can make the boot disks he needs  :P
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[10 Jan/11:50] <|Dv8|> how do I find out what brand and model modem I have?
[10 Jan/11:51] <CJ^> in device manager...
[10 Jan/11:52] <CJ^> if its ther
[10 Jan/11:52] <CJ^> or in modems in control panel / modems
[10 Jan/11:52] <|Dv8|> well..it's not on this computer..I need to find the right drivers for it
[10 Jan/11:53] <CJ^> ok...
[10 Jan/11:53] <CJ^> look at the modem.. lok at the chipset
[10 Jan/11:53] <CJ^> look for markings on it
[10 Jan/11:53] <CJ^> look for an FCC ID number..
[10 Jan/11:53] <CJ^> is it PCI or ISA?
[10 Jan/11:53] <|Dv8|> it's only saying pci serial controller
[10 Jan/11:53] <|Dv8|> pci
[10 Jan/11:53] <CJ^> then its a PCI win modem of sorts...
[10 Jan/11:53] <CJ^> do you know what chip is on it?
[10 Jan/11:53] <|Dv8|> where do I find the FCC ID number?
[10 Jan/11:54] <CJ^> Rockwell? motorola? PCtel
[10 Jan/11:54] <CJ^> on teh card..
[10 Jan/11:54] <CJ^> it would be somewhere on the card...
[10 Jan/11:54] <|Dv8|> oh..let me find out
[10 Jan/11:54] <CJ^> www.56k.com can also help you find out..
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[10 Jan/11:55] <|Dv8|> modem blaster
[10 Jan/11:55] <CJ^> www.creativelabs.com
[10 Jan/11:55] <CJ^> or www.windrivers.com
[10 Jan/11:56] <CJ^> got that for free did ya?
[10 Jan/11:56] <|Dv8|> what..the modem?
[10 Jan/11:56] <CJ^> yeap
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[10 Jan/11:57] <|Dv8|> I bought a computer for 200 bucks and I just need to fix it and get all the drivers..then I am selling it for more
[10 Jan/11:57] <CJ^> LOL
[10 Jan/11:57] <CJ^> $200?
[10 Jan/11:57] <CJ^> not US  please tell me ya didnt pay $200 US for it
[10 Jan/11:57] <CJ^> its  $25 modem...
[10 Jan/11:58] <CJ^> $45 CAN
[10 Jan/11:58] <|Dv8|> yeah..celeron 400mhz, 64meg, 56k modem, 8meg SiS video card built in
[10 Jan/11:58] <|Dv8|> for 200 canadian
[10 Jan/11:58] <CJ^> hehe
[10 Jan/11:58] <CJ^> ahh
[10 Jan/11:58] <CJ^> thought ya meant ya paid $200 for the modem alone...:
[10 Jan/11:59] <|Dv8|> no way :) I got a good deal on this so I am selling ti to get a cd burner
[10 Jan/11:59] <CJ^> well easy fix
[10 Jan/11:59] <CJ^> Creative Labs Modem Blaster
[10 Jan/12:00] <LosGuy> `op Mandy Tribble
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[10 Jan/12:00] <|Dv8|> the guy sold it because it kept freezing p on him and the store that sold it to him could not fix it...to find out it was a bad memory chip
[10 Jan/12:01] <CJ^> heh
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[10 Jan/12:21] <adamDORK> can i set up 2 window setups on one hard drive?? like make a drive c and d ???
[10 Jan/12:21] <adamDORK> yeah...i no that...i wanna be able to have windows as a seperate install on each drive
[10 Jan/12:21] <LosGuy> you should have only one active primary partition
[10 Jan/12:22] <adamDORK> ?
[10 Jan/12:22] <LosGuy> use something like partition magic  to hide the other drive or a boot manager
[10 Jan/12:22] <adamDORK> so i cant do it on 1 hd?
[10 Jan/12:22] * MaDkOw is Away: [el bisone's hizzouze] + (Page:On)(Log:On)
[10 Jan/12:22] <LosGuy> sure ya can
[10 Jan/12:22] <LosGuy> I do
[10 Jan/12:22] <adamDORK> mmmm
[10 Jan/12:22] <LosGuy> I have 3 windows installs and linux on the same HD
[10 Jan/12:22] <adamDORK> cause i want to b able to fdisk c and have windows on d
[10 Jan/12:23] <LosGuy> but D: is just a partition?
[10 Jan/12:23] <adamDORK> yeah
[10 Jan/12:23] <adamDORK> on 1 hd
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[10 Jan/12:23] <LosGuy> anyway if you do the install on D: windows will still write to C: for some things
[10 Jan/12:23] <adamDORK> so i cant double install windows
[10 Jan/12:23] <adamDORK> damm windows
[10 Jan/12:23] <LosGuy> you will have problems if you do 
[10 Jan/12:23] <adamDORK> yeah
[10 Jan/12:24] <adamDORK> default is c hun
[10 Jan/12:24] <LosGuy> just do it right
[10 Jan/12:24] <adamDORK> doh!
[10 Jan/12:24] <adamDORK> i wont even try
[10 Jan/12:24] <adamDORK> haha
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[10 Jan/12:24] <LosGuy> ok
[10 Jan/12:24] <LosGuy> like I said I have 3 windows installs and linux all on my first hard drive
[10 Jan/12:24] <LosGuy> you just have to do it right
[10 Jan/12:24] <adamDORK> wow
[10 Jan/12:25] <adamDORK> cause im a poweruser and my dad just uses email
[10 Jan/12:25] <adamDORK> id like to b able to fdisk my copy anytime
[10 Jan/12:25] <LosGuy> a poweruser should have no problem doing this
[10 Jan/12:25] <adamDORK> lol
[10 Jan/12:25] <adamDORK> i can fdisk and partition
[10 Jan/12:26] <adamDORK> i just cant f my dads side
[10 Jan/12:26] * LosGuy uses partition magic for this purpose
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[10 Jan/12:29] <CJbrb> power user??
[10 Jan/12:29] <CJbrb> heh
[10 Jan/12:30] <LosGuy> hehe
[10 Jan/12:30] <LosGuy> yeah that is what he said
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[10 Jan/12:34] <LosGuy> wow what a catch
[10 Jan/12:35] <DragonX> I don't like Windows that much
[10 Jan/12:35] <LosGuy> then dont use it
[10 Jan/12:35] <DragonX> I don't
[10 Jan/12:35] <DragonX> anymore
[10 Jan/12:35] <LosGuy> then why are you here?
[10 Jan/12:35] <LosGuy> a linux newbie?
[10 Jan/12:35] <DragonX> I am in many channels
[10 Jan/12:36] <LosGuy> which is not a legitmate awnser
[10 Jan/12:36] * DragonX sighs
[10 Jan/12:36] <LosGuy> yeah I know the feeling
[10 Jan/12:36] <LosGuy> you show up here and announce you dont like windows sheez
[10 Jan/12:37] <CJ^> and all the win channels yer in too...
[10 Jan/12:37] <CJ^> 6 win channels..
[10 Jan/12:37] <CJ^> 1 mac
[10 Jan/12:37] <CJ^> 2 unix
[10 Jan/12:37] <CJ^> amazing...
[10 Jan/12:37] <LosGuy> probably telling the world that he is a proud mac user
[10 Jan/12:37] <CJ^> HA
[10 Jan/12:37] <LosGuy> or a linux newbie
[10 Jan/12:37] <DragonX> Inever had a chance to play with mac much
[10 Jan/12:38] <DragonX> would like an old one to play with though
[10 Jan/12:38] <DragonX> see what Mac users are bragging about
[10 Jan/12:38] <CJ^> well the norm...
[10 Jan/12:38] <CJ^> ease of use.. 
[10 Jan/12:38] <CJ^> freedom..
[10 Jan/12:39] <CJ^> which  i cant see the freedom myself...
[10 Jan/12:39] <CJ^> all 100% proprietary
[10 Jan/12:39] <DragonX> yea I never could see the freedom in windows either, but thats me
[10 Jan/12:39] <CJ^> windows has a lot more freedom than a Mac does...
[10 Jan/12:39] <DragonX> true
[10 Jan/12:39] <CJ^> lot more apps than unix/linux too
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[10 Jan/12:40] <CJ^> but an OS is for a user to decide..  not a hype...
[10 Jan/12:40] <DragonX> now that is only in commercial big names
[10 Jan/12:40] <CJ^> oh  ya mean the ones we all use anyways???
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[10 Jan/12:40] <CJ^> the ones ppl want to use and used to having around??
[10 Jan/12:42] <LosGuy> Touchdown!
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[10 Jan/12:44] <DragonX> the only ones with enough money to push that so close to peoples faces that it is all they see
[10 Jan/12:44] * DragonX sighs
[10 Jan/12:44] <DragonX> I must be off now
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[10 Jan/12:44] <CJ^> hmm..
[10 Jan/12:44] ! JackaI_ is known as Gerbs
[10 Jan/12:44] <CJ^> wonder is he has checked out Red Hat lately..
[10 Jan/12:44] <CJ^> buying everythign in site they are...
[10 Jan/12:45] <LosGuy> hehe
[10 Jan/12:49] <CJ^> oh well.. im just a closed minded win user.. what do i know...
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[10 Jan/12:51] * LosGuy will gladly switch to linux as my main OS when it starts doing the things that I can do in win98
[10 Jan/12:51] <LosGuy> as well as I can do them in win98 that is
[10 Jan/12:51] <CJ^> yeap
[10 Jan/12:51] <CJ^> like.. email perhaps...
[10 Jan/12:51] <CJ^> i cant find an email client i like yet
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[10 Jan/12:51] <CJ^> the cd burn apps are good though..
[10 Jan/12:51] <LosGuy> you know I dont think I have ever setup email on linux
[10 Jan/12:52] <CJ^> so are the toys.. like MP3 players and rippers
[10 Jan/12:52] <CJ^> oh  i have..
[10 Jan/12:52] <CJ^> with many apps..
[10 Jan/12:52] <CJ^> most dont work..
[10 Jan/12:52] <LosGuy> hah
[10 Jan/12:52] <CJ^> only one that seems to is NS communicator...
[10 Jan/12:52] <CJ^> sorta why im waiting for NS5 to be released
[10 Jan/12:52] <LosGuy> yuck
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[10 Jan/12:52] <LosGuy> netscape in linux is ... not my fav
[10 Jan/12:52] <CJ^> nor mine...
[10 Jan/12:53] <LosGuy> the opera version is out... early alpha though
[10 Jan/12:53] <CJ^> but NS5 is looking GREAT
[10 Jan/12:53] <LosGuy> heard it was REAL buggy
[10 Jan/12:53] <CJ^> it is  right now..
[10 Jan/12:53] <LosGuy> havnt heard
[10 Jan/12:53] <CJ^> but  the owrdis.. if it can do it in Win.. it will do it in Linux too
[10 Jan/12:53] <CJ^> er word
[10 Jan/12:54] <LosGuy> we will see
[10 Jan/12:54] <LosGuy> I look forward to a stable functional version
[10 Jan/12:54] <CJ^> oh  yeah right...
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[10 Jan/13:03] <reebok> dang neither seattle guy is here
[10 Jan/13:03] ! ^AnG3L^ is known as ^AnG|afk
[10 Jan/13:03] <LosGuy> oh you wanted to rub some faces did you?
[10 Jan/13:03] <reebok> heheh
[10 Jan/13:03] <reebok> moi!?
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[10 Jan/13:05] <dravin> Anyone know how to rename a computer? 
[10 Jan/13:05] <LosGuy> yeah
[10 Jan/13:05] <dravin> how do you do it? 
[10 Jan/13:05] <reebok> control panel, network, identiification
[10 Jan/13:05] <LosGuy> couple of places... in network neigboor hood.. under ID...yeah like ree said too
[10 Jan/13:06] <dravin> what about renaming the user or registered owner? 
[10 Jan/13:06] <LosGuy> look around at regedit.com you will find that info there
[10 Jan/13:06] <reebok> I think you can do that in the reg
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[10 Jan/13:07] <dravin> ok thanks i looked in the registry but i couldent figure it out
[10 Jan/13:07] <LosGuy> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion]
[10 Jan/13:07] <LosGuy> is where you will find it
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[10 Jan/13:10] <dravin> i dont have a currentversion under windows 
[10 Jan/13:10] <reebok> are you in 98?
[10 Jan/13:10] <dravin> yea se 
[10 Jan/13:10] <reebok> quality
[10 Jan/13:11] <dravin> :)
[10 Jan/13:11] <LosGuy> yer doing (or did) something wrong then
[10 Jan/13:12] <dravin> brain fart it was me
[10 Jan/13:13] <dravin> i figured it out
[10 Jan/13:13] <LosGuy> hehe
[10 Jan/13:13] <LosGuy> yer a jeenyus
[10 Jan/13:13] <reebok> hehe
[10 Jan/13:15] <dravin> yea i know
[10 Jan/13:15] <LosGuy> ree you using a NAT or proxy still?
[10 Jan/13:15] <reebok> yeah
[10 Jan/13:15] <reebok> nat
[10 Jan/13:15] <LosGuy> which? sygate?
[10 Jan/13:15] <reebok> sygate and win2k built in
[10 Jan/13:16] * LosGuy uses winroute right now... it is the best I have seen so far
[10 Jan/13:16] <reebok> cool
[10 Jan/13:17] <LosGuy> can you dcc from all clients?
[10 Jan/13:17] <LosGuy> and server?
[10 Jan/13:18] <reebok> heck if I know; my mom can access the internet so that's all I care about
[10 Jan/13:18] <LosGuy> hehe ok
[10 Jan/13:18] <reebok> oh good, over a terrabyte on napster
[10 Jan/13:19] <LosGuy> was gonna get you to try something that fixed it for me..but it is no biggy and might be kinda a pain 
[10 Jan/13:19] <reebok> most likely :)
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[10 Jan/13:50] <ahgu> what does eggable mean?
[10 Jan/13:51] * ahgu Does anyone have DONGLE sentinel emulator or crack for zemax? thnx, please msg me
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[10 Jan/13:52] <mrgone> whoa
[10 Jan/13:52] @ mode #win98 [+o mrgone] by Athena!itsnotme@ppp35.US-GOVT.org
[10 Jan/13:52] < ahgu!ahgu@sdn-ar-001nywplaP054.dialsprint.net was kicked off #win98 by mrgone!~Webmaster@ts1-108.brg.tallships.ca ( Thank you for flying  Air Canada)
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[10 Jan/13:53] <mrgone> i gut un
[10 Jan/13:54] <Deton8R> nice one
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[10 Jan/13:54] <CJ^> `op
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[10 Jan/13:55] <CJ^> http://www.userfriendly.org/static/  << nice one today
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[10 Jan/13:56] <CJ^> Los
[10 Jan/13:56] <mrgone> los
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[10 Jan/13:57] <LosGuy> hi
[10 Jan/13:57] <Raph2000> Can I ask someone a Hardware Question ? ( HardDrive )
[10 Jan/13:58] <CJ^> shoot
[10 Jan/13:58] <Raph2000> I want to buy a new HardDrive, I have the Choice between 5400 7200, is the last one really faster , can you see it ?
[10 Jan/13:59] <Raph2000> rpm I mean.
[10 Jan/13:59] <mrgone> ahgu just got kicked out of a chan im on from efnet
[10 Jan/13:59] <CJ^> the 7200 rpm drives are nice
[10 Jan/13:59] <CJ^> depends ont eh make
[10 Jan/13:59] <CJ^> IBM and Seagate have some of the better ones...
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[10 Jan/13:59] <Raph2000> can you feel the difference with the 5400 ?
[10 Jan/14:00] <CJ^> access wise..a bit  yes
[10 Jan/14:00] <CJ^> but it doesnt beat scsi...
[10 Jan/14:00] <CJ^> still the same BUS speed...
[10 Jan/14:00] <Raph2000> ok, now, I have the choice with 33 or 66, my question is :
[10 Jan/14:00] <mrgone> ah...ahh....ahh    chooooo
[10 Jan/14:01] <Raph2000> My Motherboard takes only 33 right now, is it worth buying a PCI controller card to go up to 66 ?
[10 Jan/14:01] <CJ^> up to you really...
[10 Jan/14:01] <mrgone> i ditched buying a 17 gig fujitsu 33 for a quantum 13 gig 66 for the same price...cause i want all speed
[10 Jan/14:01] <CJ^> i dont see it 
[10 Jan/14:01] <CJ^> id go SCSI..
[10 Jan/14:01] <CJ^> save the hassle
[10 Jan/14:01] ! ^KiwiDude is known as KD-Away
[10 Jan/14:01] <Raph2000> scsi are too expansive for a home user
[10 Jan/14:01] <CJ^> specially since ya need the special UDMA 66 cable.. and soem drives dont come with it...
[10 Jan/14:02] <Raph2000> 27.7Go with a Western D at $230  7200rpm 66
[10 Jan/14:02] <CJ^> not really..
[10 Jan/14:02] <CJ^> a  U@W card isnt much
[10 Jan/14:02] <CJ^> $89 for a Tekram SCSI controller..
[10 Jan/14:02] <CJ^> er U2W
[10 Jan/14:03] <Raph2000> you can't have 27Go for 250$ for a SCSI can you ?
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[10 Jan/14:03] <CJ^> nope...
[10 Jan/14:03] <CJ^> least not that ive seen yet
[10 Jan/14:04] <Raph2000> so, it's a good compromise to buy the PCI Controller to go '66' instead of 33 ?
[10 Jan/14:04] <CJ^> possiblly..
[10 Jan/14:04] <CJ^> or a new mb that supports it...
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[10 Jan/14:05] <Raph2000> that's the chipset which is 33 UDMA or something else ?
[10 Jan/14:05] ! meng is known as RaSCaLKnG
[10 Jan/14:05] <CJ^> Intel TX or above is UDMA 33
[10 Jan/14:05] <Raph2000> I have a BX here, but for 66 ?
[10 Jan/14:06] ! LoCaL_GoD is known as Herb
[10 Jan/14:06] <CJ^> Abit has a mb with a UDMA 66 controller on board...
[10 Jan/14:06] <CJ^> VIA has newer chipsets that support UDMA 66
[10 Jan/14:06] <CJ^> mostly on the K7 boards from what ive seen
[10 Jan/14:07] <CJ^> some PII/PIII boards as well..
[10 Jan/14:07] ! Herb is known as LoCaL_GoD
[10 Jan/14:07] <Raph2000> ok, I understand that I need a 'special' cable for a 66 ( don't know why but..) can I still use a 33UDMA Mb with a 66 HD ?
[10 Jan/14:07] <mrgone> yes you can
[10 Jan/14:07] <Raph2000> whith a regular cable ?
[10 Jan/14:08] <mrgone> and the way i see it, if you dont get a cable now, its a cheap upgrade when you want more speed
[10 Jan/14:08] <mrgone> i think theres 2 cable connectors on the drive isnt there? one 80 pin ul66 and one ide?
[10 Jan/14:09] <Raph2000> I don't know..I didn't buy it yet.
[10 Jan/14:09] <Raph2000> but I'm thinking about it...cause i need space... ;-)
[10 Jan/14:09] <mrgone> ill know in a few days, mine should be in soon... i have 260$ laying by my bed :)
[10 Jan/14:10] <Raph2000> what did you buy/where ?
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[10 Jan/14:10] <mrgone> if ya want space for the $ you can get more for a 33 drive.. like my 13 gig ul 66 compared to a 17 gig 33
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[10 Jan/14:10] <CJ^> well that was fun  NOT
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[10 Jan/14:10] <mrgone> i bought a quantum 13gig ultra 66 
[10 Jan/14:10] <Raph2000> I think I'll go 66drive 27Go...
[10 Jan/14:11] <Raph2000> for 230$ is it good price ?
[10 Jan/14:11] <mrgone> instead of a fugi 17g 33
[10 Jan/14:11] <mrgone> 230$ u.s?
[10 Jan/14:11] <Raph2000> yes US, why ?
[10 Jan/14:11] <mrgone> check at www.pricewatch.com
[10 Jan/14:11] <mrgone> eh <- thats why ;)
[10 Jan/14:11] <Raph2000> Ok,...brb
[10 Jan/14:11] <CJ^> pricewatch.com killerapp.com
[10 Jan/14:12] <CJ^> mwave.com
[10 Jan/14:12] ! bijzonder is known as bijaway
[10 Jan/14:13] <Raph2000> Maxtor is cheaper, I had a price for a WD.
[10 Jan/14:14] <mrgone> hmm
[10 Jan/14:14] <mrgone> make sure you check their warrantys
[10 Jan/14:14] <mrgone> it really sicks when things die
[10 Jan/14:14] <mrgone> sucks
[10 Jan/14:14] <Raph2000> 180$ 66 7200 rpm...
[10 Jan/14:14] <Raph2000> 27Go
[10 Jan/14:15] <mrgone> is maxtor a good brand CJ^?
[10 Jan/14:16] <LosGuy> if you make it past the first week with it mrgone you will be ok
[10 Jan/14:16] <Raph2000> it got to be a mistake in the price....
[10 Jan/14:16] <mrgone> ahh choo
[10 Jan/14:16] <mrgone> ahchoo
[10 Jan/14:16] <Raph2000> 27.2gb eide ultra-dma/66 3.5lp 7200rpm 9ms 2mb cache *retail*
[10 Jan/14:16] <Raph2000> 190$
[10 Jan/14:16] <CJ^> IBM, Fuji, Seagate
[10 Jan/14:16] <mrgone> ralph call the store
[10 Jan/14:16] <CJ^> the rest i stay away from..
[10 Jan/14:16] <Raph2000> it's buy.com
[10 Jan/14:16] <CJ^> past 2 years they have let me down more than once..
[10 Jan/14:16] <Raph2000> I'll Monday.
[10 Jan/14:16] <mrgone> should be toll free #
[10 Jan/14:17] <CJ^> Buy.com is..
[10 Jan/14:17] <CJ^> they aint bad really..
[10 Jan/14:17] <CJ^> bought my scanner from them
[10 Jan/14:17] <Raph2000> I bought some DVD from us...
[10 Jan/14:18] <mrgone> HOW MUCH $ ARE ULTRA66 CONTROLLERS?
[10 Jan/14:18] <mrgone> oops
[10 Jan/14:18] <mrgone> sorry bout the yell :)
[10 Jan/14:18] <Raph2000> I've seen one a $40 I think.
[10 Jan/14:18] <mrgone> cool
[10 Jan/14:19] <Raph2000> I got to go...see you later may be...
[10 Jan/14:19] <mrgone> k
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[10 Jan/14:29] <|Dv8|> how can i find out how fast my cdrom drive is?
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[10 Jan/14:30] <j3ss1> has ed been around?
[10 Jan/14:30] <mrgone> cj my cell phone seems to think the batery is dead... i just charged it for alot of hours, cause its a new batt and the book says to charge for 24 hours first charge.... so i put it in the freezer to drain it all the way and am going to charge it in the morn. good idea?
[10 Jan/14:31] <mrgone> havent seen ed
[10 Jan/14:31] <j3ss1> ok
[10 Jan/14:31] <mrgone> dv8 maybe take it out and read the lable?
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[10 Jan/14:32] <viz-study> hey all
[10 Jan/14:32] <viz-study> i need some serious help
[10 Jan/14:32] <viz-study> okay, i just installed windows98 on my computer downstairs
[10 Jan/14:32] <viz-study> its all installed
[10 Jan/14:32] <viz-study> i put all the drivers on
[10 Jan/14:32] <mrgone> if it was made in 1995 its a 4-8 1996 8-16 1997 16-24 1998 24-32 1999 40-48 
[10 Jan/14:32] <viz-study> and now when i start it up
[10 Jan/14:32] <viz-study> it is asking me for a disk
[10 Jan/14:32] <viz-study> in the floppy drive
[10 Jan/14:33] <viz-study> right after the Power on self test
[10 Jan/14:33] <viz-study> what DISK does it want?
[10 Jan/14:33] <viz-study> what do i do
[10 Jan/14:33] <viz-study> crap.
[10 Jan/14:33] <mrgone> you put in a disk?
[10 Jan/14:33] <mrgone> put in a blank disk
[10 Jan/14:33] <mrgone> see what it says
[10 Jan/14:33] <viz-study> please, can someone help
[10 Jan/14:33] <mrgone> it will prolly tell you after that
[10 Jan/14:34] <LosGuy> what version of win98? this is not OEM is it?
[10 Jan/14:34] <viz-study> hello?
[10 Jan/14:34] <viz-study> i need help
[10 Jan/14:34] <viz-study> yes
[10 Jan/14:34] <viz-study> ok
[10 Jan/14:34] <LosGuy> sounds like the HD is not being read and it is defauting to the A: drive
[10 Jan/14:34] <viz-study> it doesnt say anything
[10 Jan/14:34] <viz-study> i put in a boot disk
[10 Jan/14:34] <|Dv8|> how can i find out how fast my cdrom drive is?
[10 Jan/14:34] <viz-study> i put a disk in with files on it
[10 Jan/14:34] <viz-study> SE
[10 Jan/14:34] <viz-study> Windows 98 SE
[10 Jan/14:34] <LosGuy> find the model number dv8 and look itup
[10 Jan/14:35] <viz-study> oh wait
[10 Jan/14:35] <viz-study> i know why lol
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[10 Jan/14:35] <viz-study> i had the startup in my BIOS on cd-rom
[10 Jan/14:35] <LosGuy> <<ÐêtóÑ8®>> Ping reply for viz-study: 29 Sec
[10 Jan/14:35] <viz-study> duhg
[10 Jan/14:35] <LosGuy> hehe
[10 Jan/14:35] <mrgone> DV8 pull out the cdrom. read the lable. if it doesnt say then if it was made in 1995 its a 4-8 1996 8-16 1997 16-24 1998 24-32 1999 40-48 
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[10 Jan/14:51] <Jabbapop> Hi
[10 Jan/14:51] <LosGuy> hi
[10 Jan/14:52] <Jabbapop> How much do filters for smokestacks cost?
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[10 Jan/14:53] <Jabbapop> hehe just kidding
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[10 Jan/14:55] <Crisco> good evening all
[10 Jan/14:55] <LosGuy> hi
[10 Jan/14:55] <Jabbapop> hi
[10 Jan/14:56] <Crisco> I have a 98 question,,,anyone care to field this one?
[10 Jan/14:56] <Jabbapop> what is the prob?
[10 Jan/14:56] <LosGuy> wont know till we hear it
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[10 Jan/14:57] <Crisco> I recently got a second PC and I want to install the 98 CD I already have......   when I go to do this, I get to the point were it asks for the Produce Key... which is on the front of my 98 book... but when I enter it,,, im told its invalid... any ideas..
[10 Jan/14:58] <Jabbapop> anyone know of a free utility that will make sure my system is running fine, sorta like regclean by microsoft?
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[10 Jan/14:58] <Jabbapop> are u sure u type it right?
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[10 Jan/14:58] <LosGuy> Crisco is this an OEM version of win98?
[10 Jan/14:58] <LosGuy> what is the date on the system Crisco?
[10 Jan/14:59] <Crisco> yes,,,OEM,,,  time and date?
[10 Jan/14:59] <LosGuy> yes
[10 Jan/14:59] <Jabbapop> what is OEM? is that the version u get from IBM or the one straight from microsoft?
[10 Jan/15:00] <LosGuy> your OEM disk MIGHT prevent you from installing on any system but the brand that it came with
[10 Jan/15:00] <Crisco> dont know.... im installing it on a clean system
[10 Jan/15:00] <LosGuy> boot to bios and look
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[10 Jan/15:01] <Crisco> k,,, it will be a sec.
[10 Jan/15:02] <|Dv8|> LosGuy is that always true? because it was made in 95 and I was hoping it was a higher speed
[10 Jan/15:02] <LosGuy> is what true dv8?
[10 Jan/15:03] <mrgone> my 8x that came with my p75mhz was in 1995
[10 Jan/15:03] <|Dv8|> Jabbapop is your chimney running on win95 or 98? :) kidding
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[10 Jan/15:03] <Jabbapop> hehe
[10 Jan/15:05] <Crisco> LosGuy,,,,  the time is correct.... but the product key code should match whats on the CD
[10 Jan/15:05] <LosGuy> yer not mixing up 0 and O are you?
[10 Jan/15:05] <Jabbapop> |Dv8| its not for my chimney, its for petrouleoum factory ;)
[10 Jan/15:05] <|Dv8|> try it again..must be a typo when you typed it
[10 Jan/15:05] <Crisco> nope,, in fact there are no 0 or O's in the code
[10 Jan/15:06] <Crisco> ive reentered several times
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[10 Jan/15:07] <|Dv8|> LosGuy is that always true about the date of my cdrom drive? because it was made in 95 and I was hoping it was a higher speed than 8X
[10 Jan/15:07] <mrgone> dv8 they just didnt have anything higher in 1995
[10 Jan/15:08] <Crisco> well, i'll keep tryin,, thanks
[10 Jan/15:08] <mrgone> just like my 286 is 12mhz and not a celeron 366
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[10 Jan/15:08] <LosGuy> doh
[10 Jan/15:08] <|Dv8|> why do they do that to the disk? that's stupid
[10 Jan/15:08] <LosGuy> and I was looking for his awnser
[10 Jan/15:11] <LosGuy> he probably had antivirus on in his bios
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[10 Jan/15:16] <[U-V]> i have a 20gb ide drive that windows refuses to scandisk due to insufficent memory... i have 128mb... will run ok in dos mode, but contain an error which cant be fixed in dos mode... i also cant run defrag on this drive for the same reason... any ideas?
[10 Jan/15:18] <LosGuy> tried safe mode?
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[10 Jan/15:19] <|Dv8|> ok...thank you for the help on my cdrom...I guess it is an 8x so that's what i am telling people when I sell it
[10 Jan/15:20] <mrgone> ebay?
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[10 Jan/15:21] <LosGuy> dv8 look up the model # 
[10 Jan/15:21] <mrgone> fcc?
[10 Jan/15:21] <LosGuy> yeah that would work also
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[10 Jan/15:35] <Motty> Ne1 help
[10 Jan/15:35] <Motty> i nedd some info on hard drives
[10 Jan/15:35] <LosGuy> wont know till we hear the problem
[10 Jan/15:35] <mrgone> win2k is that windows mellenium? or the next win98se
[10 Jan/15:35] <Motty> ive just been given a hard drive thats been low level formatted
[10 Jan/15:35] <Motty> and i think i nedd to format it
[10 Jan/15:36] <LosGuy> mrgone it is NT5
[10 Jan/15:36] <Motty> but win 98 cant find it, any ideas
[10 Jan/15:36] <LosGuy> Motty can bios find it (low level formats can ruin modern hard drives)
[10 Jan/15:37] <Motty> no
[10 Jan/15:37] <Motty> its been low leved before
[10 Jan/15:37] <Motty> and i got it to work
[10 Jan/15:37] <LosGuy> its not a win98 issue then bios needs to be able to find it before windows will be able to see it
[10 Jan/15:37] <Motty> but i had some drivers which are know lost
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[10 Jan/15:37] <LosGuy> then you need to fdisk it and then format it
[10 Jan/15:38] <LosGuy> but bios needs to see it first
[10 Jan/15:38] <Motty> and how do i do that?
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[10 Jan/15:38] <LosGuy> have you tried to detect it in bios?
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[10 Jan/15:38] <Motty> no
[10 Jan/15:38] <Motty> its scisi
[10 Jan/15:38] <LosGuy> well that would be step one
[10 Jan/15:39] <LosGuy> oh gee nice time to mention that
[10 Jan/15:39] <Motty> ahh sorry
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[10 Jan/15:39] <LosGuy> is the scsi card detected properly?
[10 Jan/15:39] <Motty> yeah...finds the card
[10 Jan/15:40] <LosGuy> does FDISK see the drive?
[10 Jan/15:40] <Motty> no
[10 Jan/15:41] * LosGuy doesnt know what to tell you then
[10 Jan/15:41] <LosGuy> assuming you set the drive up right
[10 Jan/15:41] <LosGuy> have any scsi utils that might help you find it?
[10 Jan/15:41] <LosGuy> scsi bios enabled?
[10 Jan/15:42] <Motty> yeah
[10 Jan/15:42] <Motty> my scsi card has its own bios, and that find it
[10 Jan/15:43] <LosGuy> hmm and the drive is set up properly? the scsi chain is terminated properly etc?
[10 Jan/15:43] <Motty> yeah
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[10 Jan/15:44] <LosGuy> hmm dont know what to tell you.... 
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[10 Jan/15:46] <Motty> ok thx anyway,..ill go check a few things brb
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[10 Jan/15:47] <`Muff`> 'lo all
[10 Jan/15:47] <LosGuy> hi `Muff`
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[10 Jan/15:48] <`Muff`> Hiyas Los
[10 Jan/15:48] <`Muff`> Hey phantasm
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[10 Jan/15:52] <phantasm0> Hi, sometimes I get an error with a messagebox that says error and some numbers. Any time this happens, I cant run any other programs. Is there a way to figure out every program that starts with my computer? Or does anyone know the problem?
[10 Jan/15:52] <j3ss1> hi
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[10 Jan/15:53] <rgkjg> Hi, sometimes I get an error with a messagebox that says error and some numbers. Any time this happens, I cant run any other programs. Is there a way to figure out every program that starts with my computer? Or does anyone know the problem?
[10 Jan/15:54] <`Muff`> phantasm, any ide what the error is?  You should see more than just numbers when it fails, like vxd and some file name...
[10 Jan/15:54] <`Muff`> idea, even
[10 Jan/15:54] <`Muff`> `op
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[10 Jan/15:54] <rgkjg> Its just a messagebox with no icon
[10 Jan/15:54] <rgkjg> Only when I start up my computer
[10 Jan/15:54] <rgkjg> And not all the time..
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[10 Jan/15:56] <NavYBarT> can someone help me
[10 Jan/15:57] <phantasm0> Well, How can I tell whats starting up with my computer?
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[10 Jan/15:57] <phantasm0> I had Sub7 on me before, But I deleted it. And I never foound where it was starting up
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[10 Jan/15:57] <GPCR> i have a small networking question
[10 Jan/15:57] <NavYBarT> HELLO?????
[10 Jan/15:57] <CJ^> yes.............
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[10 Jan/15:58] <CJ^> `op
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[10 Jan/15:58] <CJ^> dang lagg
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[10 Jan/15:58] <`Muff`> phantasm, subseven starts in the win.ini file as "run=msrexe.exe" I think...
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[10 Jan/15:59] <`Muff`> Navy, gimme more than 11 seconds to respond and maybe I can help.... geez!
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[10 Jan/16:00] <LosGuy> hehe his loss
[10 Jan/16:00] <CJbrb> its lagg gents
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[10 Jan/16:00] <CJbrb> Muff is lagging me by 78 secs
[10 Jan/16:00] <CJbrb> :PP
[10 Jan/16:00] <CJbrb> brbr
[10 Jan/16:00] <`Muff`> Hey j3ss1... :)
[10 Jan/16:00] <j3ss1> :)
[10 Jan/16:01] <`Muff`> Got your email tonight, j3ss, just wasn't certain what it meant ;)
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[10 Jan/16:01] <`Muff`> rg, we need to know more than that, like what vxd file is listed along with all those numbers...
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[10 Jan/16:01] <CJbrb> *** CTCP PING reply from `Muff`: 2 minute and 32 seconds
[10 Jan/16:02] <`Muff`> Hmmm... I ping myself at 2 seconds...
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[10 Jan/16:05] <Deckardd> Time to roam See you later
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[10 Jan/16:13] <CJbrb> ok.. little better  not much...:P
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[10 Jan/16:15] <LosGuy>  <<ÐêtóÑ8®>> Ping reply for CJ^: 1 Sec
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[10 Jan/16:16] <TheNerm> hi !
[10 Jan/16:16] <LosGuy> hi
[10 Jan/16:16] <TheNerm> Can I upgrade from win98 to win98 SE in order to obtain only NAT1000 ?
[10 Jan/16:17] <LosGuy> why do you say only?
[10 Jan/16:17] <TheNerm> cuz I only need to have the NAT capabalities
[10 Jan/16:17] <LosGuy> there is a 20 dollar upgrade that includes ICS 
[10 Jan/16:18] <LosGuy> but also patches etc
[10 Jan/16:18] <LosGuy> or try another NAT ie winroute or sygate
[10 Jan/16:18] <CJ^> or spend a little more and get a NAT
[10 Jan/16:18] <CJ^> instead of the upgrade
[10 Jan/16:18] <TheNerm> Losguy: already done, my last try is to upgrade to NAT 1000 =) trust me I tried
[10 Jan/16:20] <TheNerm> but let say I have the CD for win98 SE and I have win98 1st édition installed on my computer, in order to obtain only NAT1000 ( wich is include in win98 SE ) do I have to wipeout my HD and reinstall or could I only upgrade.. thats the realquestion here
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[10 Jan/16:21] <LosGuy> yes you can upgrade
[10 Jan/16:21] <mp3phreak> hey where can i find new directdraw files?
[10 Jan/16:21] <TheNerm> LosGuy: kewl ! thanks 1
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[10 Jan/16:24] <[U-V]> how can i make ie5 open maximized windows when it opens links as new sessions?
[10 Jan/16:27] <mp3phreak> hey where can i find new directdraw files?
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[10 Jan/16:29] <CivicSpor> hello??
[10 Jan/16:29] <CivicSpor> ?
[10 Jan/16:29] <CivicSpor> any one here?
[10 Jan/16:29] <LosGuy> hi
[10 Jan/16:29] <CivicSpor> hey
[10 Jan/16:30] <CivicSpor> do you know how you change the name under which windows is registered?
[10 Jan/16:30] <LosGuy> yes
[10 Jan/16:30] <CivicSpor> how?
[10 Jan/16:31] <[U-V]> how can i make ie5 open maximized windows when it opens links as new sessions?
[10 Jan/16:31] <LosGuy> are you comfortable with regedit CivicSpor?
[10 Jan/16:31] <LosGuy> if so you will see it under: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion]
[10 Jan/16:32] <CivicSpor> Thanks!
[10 Jan/16:32] <LosGuy> np
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[10 Jan/16:34] <CJ^> ravuhX  no msgs please
[10 Jan/16:34] <CJ^> `op
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[10 Jan/16:34] <ravuhX> cj: if you dont remember me from before i tried evverything but still no sucess
[10 Jan/16:34] <NavYBarT> can someone help me
[10 Jan/16:34] <CJ^> ?
[10 Jan/16:34] <CJ^> well i dont..
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[10 Jan/16:34] <CJ^> so  what are ya trying to do?
[10 Jan/16:35] <LosGuy> dunno NavYBarT
[10 Jan/16:35] <NavYBarT> anyone know why my mouse and keyboard would stop working for no reason atg all
[10 Jan/16:35] <ravuhX> format my computer
[10 Jan/16:35] <LosGuy> they wont stop for no reason at all
[10 Jan/16:35] <CJ^> not cordless are they?
[10 Jan/16:35] <NavYBarT> they arent cordless
[10 Jan/16:35] <LosGuy> there is always a reason :P
[10 Jan/16:35] <CJ^> rav.. did you make the win98 boot disk like i told ya too?
[10 Jan/16:35] <ravuhX> I had the win95 problem
[10 Jan/16:36] <ravuhX> Yep
[10 Jan/16:36] <CJ^> with your WIN98   not a boot disk from the net
[10 Jan/16:36] <NavYBarT> the mouse is microsoft intellieye
[10 Jan/16:36] <ravuhX> Yep
[10 Jan/16:36] <NavYBarT> could it be the drivers doing it
[10 Jan/16:36] <LosGuy> NavYBarT any confilcts in control panel / system?
[10 Jan/16:36] <LosGuy> yes
[10 Jan/16:36] <CJ^> then you shluld nto be having the problems when ya try to boot the system...
[10 Jan/16:36] <NavYBarT> i dont know if there is or not
[10 Jan/16:36] <LosGuy> uh... also you said earlier you had sub7....
[10 Jan/16:36] <CJ^> unless you have the virus too.
[10 Jan/16:36] <CJ^> and its corrupting your comman.com
[10 Jan/16:36] <LosGuy> (and left before getting the awnser to your question)
[10 Jan/16:36] <CJ^> er command.com
[10 Jan/16:37] <LosGuy> [18:59] <`Muff`> phantasm, subseven starts in the win.ini file as "run=msrexe.exe" I think...
[10 Jan/16:37] <LosGuy> doh wrong one
[10 Jan/16:37] <LosGuy> by bad
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[10 Jan/16:37] <NavYBarT> and when i restart when the mouse and keyboard stop workin the computer dosent recognize the mouse anymore
[10 Jan/16:37] <CJ^> both ps/2 ?
[10 Jan/16:38] <NavYBarT> yea
[10 Jan/16:38] <CJ^> odd..
[10 Jan/16:38] <NavYBarT> could it be the drivers??
[10 Jan/16:38] <CJ^> could be
[10 Jan/16:38] <CJ^> dont knwo why it would stop the kb from working though...
[10 Jan/16:39] <NavYBarT> wonder how i woulkd be able to fix this
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[10 Jan/16:41] <di0de> anyone know of a utility that converts FAT32 to FAT16?
[10 Jan/16:42] <LosGuy> partition magic will do that
[10 Jan/16:42] <di0de> pq magic and NT don't like each other however
[10 Jan/16:42] <LosGuy> well being that this is a win98 channel
[10 Jan/16:42] <NavYBarT> partition magic messes up my comp bad!
[10 Jan/16:43] <LosGuy> besides a partition magic boot disk should be fine
[10 Jan/16:43] <CJ^> never had a problem...
[10 Jan/16:43] <CJ^> nto with PM
[10 Jan/16:43] <CJ^> er not
[10 Jan/16:44] <NavYBarT> pq always errors out half way during resizing messin up my space allocations and making it where i have to format
[10 Jan/16:44] <LosGuy> it doesnt get along with drive overlays real well 
[10 Jan/16:44] <CJ^> yeap  it dont....
[10 Jan/16:44] <CJ^> nad the way some manuafactures format the drives out of the factory... it doesnt seem to do too well with them either
[10 Jan/16:45] <NavYBarT> di0de dont i know you from somewhere?
[10 Jan/16:45] <di0de> dunno
[10 Jan/16:45] <di0de> don't think so..
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[10 Jan/17:12] <iRATE> is it possible to mirror a directory structure onto the start menu
[10 Jan/17:13] <LosGuy> yeah I guess
[10 Jan/17:13] <iRATE> if i make a shortcut to the directory, i get a link but it just opens a window when i use it...i'd like to have it cascading if possible
[10 Jan/17:13] <CJ^> a shortcut to a directory?
[10 Jan/17:13] <iRATE> yeah. i tried that
[10 Jan/17:13] <iRATE> and it pops a new window to view the contents
[10 Jan/17:14] <iRATE> i was wondering if it could just cascade into a new branch or whatever with the dir. contents
[10 Jan/17:14] <LosGuy> ahhh I dont think so iRATE
[10 Jan/17:14] <CJ^> yes
[10 Jan/17:14] <CJ^> just did it
[10 Jan/17:15] <CJ^> do this
[10 Jan/17:15] <LosGuy> the start menu lists the contents of each dir CJ^?
[10 Jan/17:15] <LosGuy> you would need to make a shortcut to each item in the dirs then
[10 Jan/17:15] <CJ^> yeap
[10 Jan/17:15] <CJ^> shortcuts...
[10 Jan/17:15] <iRATE> yeah i could make it all manually
[10 Jan/17:15] <CJ^> you make shortcuts OF everythign in the directory
[10 Jan/17:15] <iRATE> i was just wondering if there was something easier
[10 Jan/17:15] <LosGuy> why not just make a shortcut to explorer that opens in that dir?
[10 Jan/17:15] <CJ^> nope
[10 Jan/17:16] <CJ^> seems to be the only way really..
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[10 Jan/17:17] <iRATE> dah well...luckily there werent too many items in the directory
[10 Jan/17:17] <R-Hamilto> can anyone help me with a scanner problem ?
[10 Jan/17:17] <iRATE> later
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[10 Jan/17:18] <MaDkOw> hey hey
[10 Jan/17:18] <MaDkOw> i need some help networking my win98se box to my win95 box
[10 Jan/17:18] <CJ^> www.helmig.com
[10 Jan/17:19] <MaDkOw> ?
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[10 Jan/17:20] <CJ^> well that got rid of em  didnt it...
[10 Jan/17:20] <CJ^> ok  so whats with the scanner?
[10 Jan/17:21] <LosGuy> hehe
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[10 Jan/17:24] <R-Hamilto> after scanning there is no picture
[10 Jan/17:24] <R-Hamilto> the screen is just black
[10 Jan/17:24] <Kind-Bud> can anyone tell me why Windows 98 is such a piece of shit......I upgraded from a P-233MMX to a PIII 500 and the performance is basically the same.  With applications that is.  However, Windows 2000 Server runs about 1000 times faster and better......what can i do with Win98?  I really do want to keep it on my machine......any suggestions?
[10 Jan/17:25] <CJ^> ok
[10 Jan/17:25] <CJ^> first
[10 Jan/17:25] <CJ^> dony cuss
[10 Jan/17:25] <Azmodan> Kind-Bud, first of all you can watch yer language
[10 Jan/17:25] <CJ^> and win2k and win98 cannot be compared
[10 Jan/17:25] <CJ^> NT and win9x are two differnt beasts
[10 Jan/17:25] <Kind-Bud> NT = the bigger beast
[10 Jan/17:26] <CJ^> still its a different OS can connot be compared to 98
[10 Jan/17:26] <CJ^> first check for all the apps your loading as ya boot up
[10 Jan/17:26] <CJ^> get rid of them if they aren absolutly needed
[10 Jan/17:27] <CJ^> secondly...  you didnt say how much ram you have inteh new system...
[10 Jan/17:27] <CJ^> or what vid yer running...
[10 Jan/17:27] <Kind-Bud> yeah, i've done a lot of those little tweaks and sh*t but it still doesn't seem to work
[10 Jan/17:27] <CJ^> or the specs on the total system.. that would help...
[10 Jan/17:27] <Kind-Bud> i have a ATI All-In-Wonder 128 AGP (Rage 128 chip)
[10 Jan/17:28] <CJ^> and.....................
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[10 Jan/17:29] <Kind-Bud> well
[10 Jan/17:29] <Kind-Bud> i have a Pentium III 500
[10 Jan/17:29] <CJ^> what else...
[10 Jan/17:29] <CJ^> scsi devices?
[10 Jan/17:29] <CJ^> ram..
[10 Jan/17:29] <CJ^> i mean..
[10 Jan/17:29] <Kind-Bud> one 3.2 GB Seagate HDD (IDE)
[10 Jan/17:29] <CJ^> what is slow about it???
[10 Jan/17:29] <CJ^> boot up?
[10 Jan/17:29] <LosGuy> NIC?
[10 Jan/17:29] <CJ^> ok
[10 Jan/17:30] <Kind-Bud> one 4.1 GB Western Digital HDD (IDE)
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[10 Jan/17:30] <Kind-Bud> 3Com509b LAN card
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[10 Jan/17:30] <CJ^> BAM
[10 Jan/17:30] <CJ^> on a netowrk?
[10 Jan/17:30] <CJ^> er network?
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[10 Jan/17:31] <Kind-Bud> on a netwrok
[10 Jan/17:31] <Kind-Bud> yeah
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[10 Jan/17:31] <CJ^> ok.. DHCP involved?
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[10 Jan/17:31] <Kind-Bud> LAN (T3)
[10 Jan/17:31] <Kind-Bud> yes
[10 Jan/17:31] <Kind-Bud> Ethernet
[10 Jan/17:31] <CJ^> ok...
[10 Jan/17:31] <LosGuy> Vulcan` `part #win98
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[10 Jan/17:32] <CJ^> now.. what is slow.....
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[10 Jan/17:32] <Kind-Bud> applications starting....really muti-tasking is not cool
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[10 Jan/17:32] <CJ^> well.. if your gonna compare it to NT.. ... geeze  
[10 Jan/17:32] <CJ^> and how much ram in the system?
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[10 Jan/17:33] <Kind-Bud> 128MB PC100 (SDRAM)
[10 Jan/17:33] <Kind-Bud> of course
[10 Jan/17:33] <Kind-Bud> wanting more
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[10 Jan/17:34] <Kind-Bud> surfing the net is slow.......it's like the processor is working to much
[10 Jan/17:34] <CJ^> <<< k6-3 400 128mb  runs fine..
[10 Jan/17:34] <CJ^> donest seem slow at all to me..
[10 Jan/17:34] <CJ^> well...  this is a work system ?
[10 Jan/17:35] <CJ^> or  personal home system?
[10 Jan/17:35] <CJ^> and are you loggin onto a Domain?
[10 Jan/17:36] <Kind-Bud> not logged in.......i put the machine together myself
[10 Jan/17:37] <CJ^> but its at work  right?
[10 Jan/17:38] <CJ^> anywho.... if ya put this beast together...  whats the specs?
[10 Jan/17:38] <CJ^> mb and all...
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[10 Jan/17:38] <CJ^> and are you dual booting between 98 and win2k?
[10 Jan/17:38] <Kind-Bud> yes
[10 Jan/17:40] <CJ^> ok....
[10 Jan/17:40] <CJ^> anyone else wanna jump in on this???
[10 Jan/17:41] <LosGuy> hehe I am filling out an install survey hehe
[10 Jan/17:41] <CJ^> lol
[10 Jan/17:41] <CJ^> well...
[10 Jan/17:41] <LosGuy> uh... any conflicts or things loading in autoexec,bat or config.sys?
[10 Jan/17:41] <CJ^> i dont see where the slow down is...
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[10 Jan/17:43] <CJ^>  $10 says he's a developer..
[10 Jan/17:43] <LosGuy> hehe
[10 Jan/17:44] <CJ^> probably got 400 apps installed and he's trying to run VC++ and its slow...
[10 Jan/17:44] <CJ^> swap fiel the size of a floppy..
[10 Jan/17:46] <LosGuy> hmm being nuked
[10 Jan/17:46] <Azmodan>                                                                                                                                                                                          are you?
[10 Jan/17:46] <Azmodan> doh
[10 Jan/17:46] <Azmodan> sorry
[10 Jan/17:46] <CJ^> ?
[10 Jan/17:46] <CJ^> from who?
[10 Jan/17:47] <LosGuy> checking
[10 Jan/17:47] <LosGuy> they stopped before I turned debug on
[10 Jan/17:48] * CJ^ turns off WinNuke 5.0
[10 Jan/17:48] <Azmodan> los, I always show icmp in that window
[10 Jan/17:48] <LosGuy> haha
[10 Jan/17:48] <Azmodan> its a good idea
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[10 Jan/17:50] <LosGuy> its on now
[10 Jan/17:50] <CJ^> bbiab'
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[10 Jan/17:51] <lpdfk> Can someone please help me out by telling me a line from their win.ini file?
[10 Jan/17:51] <LosGuy> what are you looking for LifeBlood
[10 Jan/17:51] <LosGuy> doh lpdfk
[10 Jan/17:52] <LosGuy> hah it wasnt a nuke
[10 Jan/17:52] <lpdfk> I need to know what it should say under [mciavi]
[10 Jan/17:52] <Azmodan> what was it?
[10 Jan/17:52] <LosGuy> it was a "feature" in something that I am beta testing
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[10 Jan/17:53] <lpdfk> Can someone please help me out by telling me a line from their win.ini file?
[10 Jan/17:53] <lpdfk> I need to know what it should say under [mciavi]
[10 Jan/17:53] <LosGuy> just a sec lpdfk
[10 Jan/17:53] <lpdfk> k, thanx
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[10 Jan/17:53] <||Mach5||> anybody know how to write batch?
[10 Jan/17:53] <lpdfk> mach, kinda
[10 Jan/17:54] <LosGuy> lpdfk it says nothing under mine for that 
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[10 Jan/17:54] <LosGuy> [mciavi]  <--- that is all for mciavi
[10 Jan/17:54] <lpdfk> ok, thanx....I have a problem....my avi's won't play at all (I get an MCI error) and all of my mpg's play black
[10 Jan/17:55] <lpdfk> know what the prob might be?
[10 Jan/17:55] <LosGuy> did you update codecs? or the latest media player?
[10 Jan/17:55] <lpdfk> yes, tried both
[10 Jan/17:55] <lpdfk> they don't help
[10 Jan/17:56] <lpdfk> I've tried old and new mplayers
[10 Jan/17:56] <lpdfk> and codecs
[10 Jan/17:56] <LosGuy> did some thing supplant mplayer as the default for .mpg?
[10 Jan/17:56] <lpdfk> no
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[10 Jan/17:57] <LosGuy> hmm dont know
[10 Jan/17:57] <lpdfk> I think i messed it up by trying to play a streaming avi
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[10 Jan/18:26] <Big`Ed> `say
[10 Jan/18:26] <CJ^> say
[10 Jan/18:27] <Big`Ed> `-op
[10 Jan/18:27] <Big`Ed> `op
[10 Jan/18:27] @ mode #win98 [+o Big`Ed] by Proteus!itsnotme@0wned.the.US-GOVT.org
[10 Jan/18:27] <Big`Ed> `op CJ^
[10 Jan/18:27] @ mode #win98 [+o CJ^] by Proteus!itsnotme@0wned.the.US-GOVT.org
[10 Jan/18:27] <Big`Ed> `op *
[10 Jan/18:27] @ mode #win98 [+o Azmodan] by Proteus!itsnotme@0wned.the.US-GOVT.org
[10 Jan/18:27] <Big`Ed> `op *
[10 Jan/18:27] <Big`Ed> `op zeus___
[10 Jan/18:27] @ mode #win98 [+o Zeus___] by Proteus!itsnotme@0wned.the.US-GOVT.org
[10 Jan/18:28] <Big`Ed> hi CJ^
[10 Jan/18:28] <CJ^> yo
[10 Jan/18:28] <CJ^> well.. sold my laptop...
[10 Jan/18:28] <Big`Ed> net had fun again today i see
[10 Jan/18:28] <CJ^> got soem asch for the nest few weeks too...
[10 Jan/18:28] <CJ^> er cash...
[10 Jan/18:28] ! GrunGirl is known as GrunG\afk
[10 Jan/18:29] <Big`Ed> don't you interview volt soon?
[10 Jan/18:29] <CJ^> tuesday and wed
[10 Jan/18:29] <CJ^> hopefully more too
[10 Jan/18:30] <Big`Ed> really _ good luck
[10 Jan/18:30] <Azmodan> hi guys
[10 Jan/18:30] <Big`Ed> hola az
[10 Jan/18:30] <CJ^> heh
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[10 Jan/18:46] <LosGuy> hola Big`Ed
[10 Jan/18:47] <LosGuy> joined the WRONG side of that split
[10 Jan/18:47] <CJ^> hehe
[10 Jan/18:47] <Big`Ed> hi!
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[10 Jan/18:49] <go> hey CJ^
[10 Jan/18:49] <CJ^> ?
[10 Jan/18:49] <go> i have yet ANOTHER question for ya ;-)
[10 Jan/18:49] <go> do you ever use netscape?
[10 Jan/18:50] <CJ^> in linux only  yes
[10 Jan/18:50] <go> okay
[10 Jan/18:50] <go> how do you configure netscape for multiple users?
[10 Jan/18:50] <CJ^> dunno..
[10 Jan/18:50] <go> :-?
[10 Jan/18:50] <Big`Ed> don't do netscape
[10 Jan/18:50] <Big`Ed> i do IE5
[10 Jan/18:50] <CJ^> might want to try www.netscape.com
[10 Jan/18:50] <CJ^> linux does it itself..
[10 Jan/18:51] <CJ^> each user has his/her own applications
[10 Jan/18:51] <go> CJ^: yeah I know, but i'm still working on this 98 box
[10 Jan/18:51] <go> remember? ;-)
[10 Jan/18:51] <CJ^> HA
[10 Jan/18:51] <CJ^> i get too many ppl in here in a day to rem everyone
[10 Jan/18:52] <CJ^> do ti this way
[10 Jan/18:52] <go> ah but you remember me now eh?
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[10 Jan/18:52] <CJ^> configure the system Mulitple logins
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[10 Jan/18:52] <Xaphiosis> anyone here a good programmer?
[10 Jan/18:52] <go> CJ^: right, that's what I want to do, where is that? Like I said previously, i'm a linux guy myself
[10 Jan/18:52] ! PJ_Away is known as PeJay
[10 Jan/18:53] <CJ^> Control panel
[10 Jan/18:53] <CJ^> USERS
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[10 Jan/18:53] <Big`Ed> define good?
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[10 Jan/18:53] <Xaphiosis> I need to know why CreateProcess does not pass parameters
[10 Jan/18:54] <Azmodan> Xaphiosis, try a programming channel
[10 Jan/18:54] <Xaphiosis> like which one? ;) they don't know on #coders
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[10 Jan/18:54] <CJ^> per the language yer doing too...
[10 Jan/18:54] <CJ^> #vb?
[10 Jan/18:54] <SinTaX98> hi everyone
[10 Jan/18:54] <CJ^> #c++
[10 Jan/18:54] <CJ^> i dunnno
[10 Jan/18:54] <CJ^> do a channel listing
[10 Jan/18:54] <Xaphiosis> asm actually ;)
[10 Jan/18:55] <Xaphiosis> oh well ... thanks for anwsering ... that's the most anyone's helped today ;)
[10 Jan/18:55] <Xaphiosis> cheers
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[10 Jan/18:55] <SinTaX98> how is everyone this evening?
[10 Jan/18:56] <CJ^> er  ok  i guess...
[10 Jan/18:56] <SinTaX98> well your alive right?
[10 Jan/18:56] <CJ^> fer now yes..........
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[10 Jan/18:57] <SinTaX98> well that's somthing to be happy about
[10 Jan/18:57] <SinTaX98> :)
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[10 Jan/18:57] <SinTaX98> can someone help me I need a windows 98 user to see if they can get in to my RAS, I can walk someone through the steps, I just need a computer outside my domain
[10 Jan/18:58] <SinTaX98> please, please, please ????? :)
[10 Jan/18:58] * Big`Ed don't do that type of help
[10 Jan/18:58] <Big`Ed> nite all
[10 Jan/18:59] <SinTaX98> night
[10 Jan/18:59] <go> what does RAS stabd for
[10 Jan/18:59] <SinTaX98> Remote Access System
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[10 Jan/18:59] <SinTaX98> I have a computer here that is set up for access from a remote user, but I am not sure if it is set up right
[10 Jan/18:59] <go> what do you want me to do: telnet?
[10 Jan/19:00] <CJ^> go..
[10 Jan/19:00] <CJ^> if you use yer linux box  i can bet you can punch through it
[10 Jan/19:00] <SinTaX98> :) I don't think you could :)
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[10 Jan/19:00] <go> CJ^: yeah i don't understand why it must be a 98 user . . .
[10 Jan/19:00] <SinTaX98> firewall :)
[10 Jan/19:00] <SinTaX98> to use VpN
[10 Jan/19:00] <CJ^> doenst have to be
[10 Jan/19:00] <CJ^> ahhh
[10 Jan/19:00] <SinTaX98> Virtual private networking
[10 Jan/19:01] <go> hmmmm
[10 Jan/19:01] <SinTaX98> I just need to know if it will work for 98 users
[10 Jan/19:01] <CJ^> Linux can do VPN actually..
[10 Jan/19:01] <CJ^> BUT
[10 Jan/19:01] <CJ^> if all ya need is a 98 user...
[10 Jan/19:02] <CJ^> and yer the sys admin i take it?
[10 Jan/19:02] <SinTaX98> well if you want to try it I'd love to know if it would work, can you connect to a NT server
[10 Jan/19:02] <SinTaX98> yes
[10 Jan/19:02] <CJ^> MS nativly connects to an NT server..
[10 Jan/19:02] <CJ^> well..
[10 Jan/19:02] <CJ^> you dont have any clients with 98 installed?
[10 Jan/19:03] <SinTaX98> I need to see if out of my domain it will I am on a LAN here
[10 Jan/19:03] ! ^AnG3L^^ is known as ^AnG|afk
[10 Jan/19:03] <CJ^> ?
[10 Jan/19:03] <CJ^> um  modem access...
[10 Jan/19:03] <SinTaX98> computers outside my LAN
[10 Jan/19:03] <SinTaX98> or internet access
[10 Jan/19:03] <SinTaX98> user connects via internet
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[10 Jan/19:04] <grav> hey folks
[10 Jan/19:04] <CJ^> well that would entail too much for me to do....
[10 Jan/19:04] <CJ^> really
[10 Jan/19:04] <SinTaX98> I have two other offices that I need to connect to this server, and I wanted to test it out
[10 Jan/19:04] <CJ^> so.. i gotta decline..
[10 Jan/19:04] <grav> runnin 98 install and regsvr32 is pperforming illegal op's 
[10 Jan/19:05] <grav> think fat 32 would be solution?
[10 Jan/19:05] <SinTaX98> OK, it's cool I'd have to punch a hole through my firewall to let you through anyways, supposedly I  am running one of the most secure firewalls
[10 Jan/19:05] <Big`Ed> graw - how are you tring to install?
[10 Jan/19:06] <grav> del c:\windows and install off 98start disk for cd drivers
[10 Jan/19:06] <Big`Ed> is there a reason you have not formated?
[10 Jan/19:06] <go> CJ^: gonna give this a try in netscape.  hope it works!  G'night all!
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[10 Jan/19:06] ! _-CiRcE-_ is known as T_BONE
[10 Jan/19:06] <grav> I have, first install was to an old 500 mb hdd
[10 Jan/19:07] <grav> switched to newer 1.7gb did 2 installs there and always at the same spot
[10 Jan/19:07] <grav> formatted both to fat 16 cause they were under 2 gb
[10 Jan/19:07] <Big`Ed> how was the drives prepared ?
[10 Jan/19:07] <Big`Ed> did you FDISK?
[10 Jan/19:07] <LosGuy> badly Big`Ed
[10 Jan/19:08] <grav> of course
[10 Jan/19:08] <LosGuy> he just del windows
[10 Jan/19:08] <Big`Ed> hehe
[10 Jan/19:08] <LosGuy> [22:06] <grav> del c:\windows and install off 98start disk for cd drivers
[10 Jan/19:08] <Big`Ed> graw - you used win98 disk, ran fdisk, ran format, and then ran setup from cd?
[10 Jan/19:08] <SinTaX98> thanks anyways guys, take it easy
[10 Jan/19:08] <grav> ran into a little problem with EZ-Bios but a quick fdisk/mrf fixed that
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[10 Jan/19:08] <Big`Ed>  - fdisk /mbr
[10 Jan/19:09] <Big`Ed> did you run a full FDISK ?
[10 Jan/19:09] <grav> yeah that's the one
[10 Jan/19:09] <Big`Ed> you prob still have ex-bios involved 
[10 Jan/19:09] <grav> if I do a clean format to fat32 what switches can I throw to fix maybe?
[10 Jan/19:09] <Big`Ed> need to get rid of OLD partition completely
[10 Jan/19:09] <grav> I did
[10 Jan/19:10] <grav> there's only primarydos partition which is new
[10 Jan/19:10] <Big`Ed> enabling large disk on fdisk - makes it fat32
[10 Jan/19:10] * Big`Ed has to run - take over LosGuy please!
[10 Jan/19:10] <grav> I know
[10 Jan/19:10] <Big`Ed> bye
[10 Jan/19:10] <grav> tanx man
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[10 Jan/19:14] <grav> gotta say salut to a friend
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[10 Jan/19:21] <grav> irate
[10 Jan/19:21] <iesse> anyone know anything about "miraScan" software
[10 Jan/19:21] <iesse> ?
[10 Jan/19:22] <iesse> it's a scan=interface program
[10 Jan/19:22] <iesse> thanks anyways
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[10 Jan/19:24] <grav> LosGuy/ once it gets to config in the setup all hell breaks loose
[10 Jan/19:24] ! Bored is known as angiepoos
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[10 Jan/19:25] <LosGuy> grav you dont have antivirus in bios enabled do you?
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[10 Jan/19:26] <grav> Comes up w/2regsver32 illegal op's then ie4's setup goes to shit calling function
[10 Jan/19:26] <Azmodan> grav mind your language please
[10 Jan/19:26] <grav> DllRegisterServer.. I dunno I'll check
[10 Jan/19:26] ! HigHBabE is known as HigH-AwaY
[10 Jan/19:26] <grav> xcuse me, just a little heated
[10 Jan/19:27] <Cue_Ball> is preditor spelled preditor?
[10 Jan/19:27] <Azmodan> predator
[10 Jan/19:28] <Cue_Ball> tnx
[10 Jan/19:28] <grav> virus disabled
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[10 Jan/19:30] <LosGuy> grav pull your hardware and do a minimal install
[10 Jan/19:30] <LosGuy> err an installwith minimal hardware
[10 Jan/19:30] <LosGuy> then add it back
[10 Jan/19:31] <grav> gotcha, shoulda thought of that, I've been avoiding it all day. the house is quiet enough now
[10 Jan/19:31] <grav> I'll stay in chat for a while and see if there's someone I can help, 
[10 Jan/19:31] <grav> in between
[10 Jan/19:32] <LosGuy> k
[10 Jan/19:32] <Cue_Ball> hahaha
[10 Jan/19:32] <Cue_Ball> can I paste somehing?
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[10 Jan/19:33] <Azmodan> if its short
[10 Jan/19:34] <Azmodan> you don't want to flood yourself off
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[10 Jan/19:36] <Cue_Ball> ok
[10 Jan/19:36] <Cue_Ball> it was in a different channel with a dictonary bot
[10 Jan/19:36] <Cue_Ball> <KoRnFarmr> !AddWord QUITPLS $chr(13) $+ $chr(10) $+ QUIT :k!
[10 Jan/19:36] <Cue_Ball> <HonkeyMan> QUITPLS now means "$chr(13) $+ $chr(10) $+ QUIT :k!"
[10 Jan/19:37] <Cue_Ball> <KoRnFarmr> !define quitpls
[10 Jan/19:37] <Cue_Ball> <HonkeyMan> quitpls - "
[10 Jan/19:37] <Cue_Ball> *** Quits: HonkeyMan (k!")
[10 Jan/19:39] <spifdo> my cd drive always flashes busy and wont read cd's, it says the drive is not ready when i insert them in the drive, can anyone help?
[10 Jan/19:39] <LosGuy> did it ever work spifdo?
[10 Jan/19:40] <spifdo> yes at one point, it is a computer that i baught from someone else, it woked at the start off and on, now it flashes busy all the time
[10 Jan/19:41] <LosGuy> what changed ?
[10 Jan/19:41] <LosGuy> worked on and off?
[10 Jan/19:41] <LosGuy> sounds like its bad then
[10 Jan/19:41] <spifdo> worked sometime and sometimes not
[10 Jan/19:41] ! LCan|OUT is known as PSYDUCK|
[10 Jan/19:41] <spifdo> how much can i get a new one for?
[10 Jan/19:42] <LosGuy> pricewatch.com  <-- go there
[10 Jan/19:42] <spifdo> k, thanks
[10 Jan/19:43] <spifdo> r they easy to install yourself?
[10 Jan/19:43] <LosGuy> usually yes
[10 Jan/19:44] <LosGuy> much easier in win98 than in say dos 
[10 Jan/19:44] <spifdo> what about win95?
[10 Jan/19:45] <LosGuy> not as easy in win95 as it is in win98 but you have win98 right? after all you came to a win98 channel
[10 Jan/19:45] <LosGuy> let me say NOT ALWAYS as easy in win95
[10 Jan/19:46] <spifdo> imon win 98m now, but this is diffent comp
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[10 Jan/21:18] <grav> still 
[10 Jan/21:18] <grav> kewl
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[10 Jan/21:19] <grav> took all the cards out of my machine and formatted, then proceeded w/win98 install
[10 Jan/21:19] <LosGuy> and?
[10 Jan/21:19] <grav> blue screen of death popped up 
[10 Jan/21:19] <grav> OE has occurred
[10 Jan/21:20] <grav> finally have a quiet house
[10 Jan/21:20] <LosGuy> OE is usually a driver conflict
[10 Jan/21:20] <grav> yeah it's in VXD uhcd(04) + 00000354
[10 Jan/21:20] <LosGuy> but could be other things including yer ram
[10 Jan/21:20] <CJ^> uhcd....  
[10 Jan/21:20] <CJ^> usb hub
[10 Jan/21:21] <CJ^> i believe
[10 Jan/21:21] <LosGuy> doh
[10 Jan/21:21] <grav> well, I suppose I could remove the cd rom. and try again
[10 Jan/21:21] <CJ^> its nto the cdrom though
[10 Jan/21:21] <CJ^> try this..
[10 Jan/21:21] <CJ^> go into the BIOS...
[10 Jan/21:21] <CJ^> diable the USB hub
[10 Jan/21:21] <CJ^> er disable..
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[10 Jan/21:25] <grav> only thing I can find is usb keyboard support
[10 Jan/21:25] <grav> init display was @ pci i just changed it to agp where it should be
[10 Jan/21:26] <grav> what if I were to flash the bios?
[10 Jan/21:26] <CJ^> thats up to you...
[10 Jan/21:26] <LosGuy> has this system had win98 on it before?
[10 Jan/21:26] ! _-CiRcE-_ is known as Toyman
[10 Jan/21:26] <LosGuy> I have seen many cases where a bios flash allowed an install
[10 Jan/21:26] ! glittabal is known as blitterba
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[10 Jan/21:26] <grav> no 95
[10 Jan/21:27] ! blitterba is known as blittabal
[10 Jan/21:27] <LosGuy> that is something you should look at then
[10 Jan/21:27] <LosGuy> what chipset on your mb?
[10 Jan/21:27] <LosGuy> and what cpu also?
[10 Jan/21:27] <grav> abit something p2 400
[10 Jan/21:27] <grav> p-2 p-3 board
[10 Jan/21:28] <CJ^> abit something?
[10 Jan/21:28] <CJ^> better find out the exact board...:P
[10 Jan/21:28] <LosGuy> hehe yeah that is handy to know when flashing the bios
[10 Jan/21:29] <grav> I'm gonna try it the best way I know how. 
[10 Jan/21:29] <grav> doh1
[10 Jan/21:29] <grav> hehe yeah, no i'll do the install to the drive from a seperate solid sys and go from there.
[10 Jan/21:29] <grav> time to bring out old betsy
[10 Jan/21:29] <LosGuy> ewww
[10 Jan/21:30] <grav> she always stands up fora  good round or 2
[10 Jan/21:30] <LosGuy> talk about asking for trouble
[10 Jan/21:30] <grav> really
[10 Jan/21:30] <CJ^> seriously..
[10 Jan/21:30] <CJ^> yes
[10 Jan/21:30] <CJ^> if its havign trouble in the install..
[10 Jan/21:30] <grav> and why is that?
[10 Jan/21:30] <CJ^> what do you thingk will happen with an OS actually running??
[10 Jan/21:30] <LosGuy> it might work..but it is NOT the way to install
[10 Jan/21:30] ! blittabal is known as glittagal
[10 Jan/21:31] <LosGuy> and you will almost certainly have problems ... not long after installing in the other system
[10 Jan/21:31] ! glittagal is known as blittabal
[10 Jan/21:31] <CJ^> id look at Abit's site...
[10 Jan/21:31] <CJ^> see if there is any info about this..
[10 Jan/21:31] <grav> it's worked on numerous occasions before. and it's not a data critical machine either
[10 Jan/21:31] <CJ^> or an updated BIOS..
[10 Jan/21:31] <CJ^> it may just be that
[10 Jan/21:31] <grav> but the machine I've done it with hasn't complained abit!
[10 Jan/21:31] ! HigH-AwaY is known as SpyderB8
[10 Jan/21:32] <grav> pardon the pun
[10 Jan/21:32] ! SpyderB8 is known as Spy-Away
[10 Jan/21:32] <LosGuy> haha
[10 Jan/21:32] <grav> gotta run!
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[10 Jan/21:32] <LosGuy> if it is the same mb etc it would work
[10 Jan/21:33] <CJ^> USB hub causing an OE...
[10 Jan/21:33] <CJ^> something wrong there...
[10 Jan/21:34] ! angieboos is known as angieAFK
[10 Jan/21:35] <LosGuy> yeah a bios flash might be just what he needs
[10 Jan/21:36] ! angieAFK is known as lonely
[10 Jan/21:36] ! lonely is known as angiepoos
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[10 Jan/21:37] <LosGuy> this build is a turd! sheez
[10 Jan/21:38] <CJ^> of?
[10 Jan/21:39] * LosGuy formats that partition and installs another build
[10 Jan/21:40] <LosGuy> that beta thing I am on (the OS)
[10 Jan/21:40] <CJ^> ack
[10 Jan/21:40] <CJ^> nep or mill?
[10 Jan/21:40] <LosGuy> mil
[10 Jan/21:41] <LosGuy> i dont care for it at all
[10 Jan/21:41] <CJ^> geeze
[10 Jan/21:41] <CJ^> been hearing that alot too
[10 Jan/21:41] <CJ^> also hear they may scrap it..
[10 Jan/21:41] <LosGuy> the ONLY thing that I like about it is ... it seems to be VERY fast with hard drive access
[10 Jan/21:42] <LosGuy> yeah I have heard that also
[10 Jan/21:44] <LosGuy> but they deny it in the news groups
[10 Jan/21:44] <CJ^> internal is a different story
[10 Jan/21:44] <CJ^> i think it may actually go through a total rebuild..
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[10 Jan/21:47] <LosGuy> it seems totally aimed at complete newbies
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[10 Jan/21:48] <CJ^> think that was the point...
[10 Jan/21:48] <quantiple> does anyone know how to make the files extentions show in win98
[10 Jan/21:48] ! chi||i is known as chi||CASH
[10 Jan/21:48] <quantiple> like jpg
[10 Jan/21:48] <quantiple> and gif
[10 Jan/21:48] <LosGuy> there is nothing there that seems new or neat that would appeal to me
[10 Jan/21:48] <CJ^> sorta make ppl that USE computerts jump to Win2k
[10 Jan/21:48] <LosGuy> quantiple explorer / view / folderoptions
[10 Jan/21:49] <LosGuy> view tab UNtick the box that says hide file extensions for known file types 
[10 Jan/21:50] <LosGuy> yeah I wondered that myself CJ^
[10 Jan/21:50] ! HigH-AwaY is known as HigHBabE
[10 Jan/21:50] <LosGuy> but the price! tis a bit steep
[10 Jan/21:51] <LosGuy> quantiple please dont message me...see the topic
[10 Jan/21:51] <quantiple> sorry
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[10 Jan/21:52] <LosGuy> in channel
[10 Jan/21:52] <quantiple> ok
[10 Jan/21:52] <LosGuy> I dont even read /msgs from people that I dont know
[10 Jan/21:53] <quantiple> I went to windows explorer and view and it just changes the views
[10 Jan/21:53] <quantiple> I want to be able to chage he file type
[10 Jan/21:53] <LosGuy> to CHANGE the file type?
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[10 Jan/21:55] <CivicSpor> does anyone know anything about microsoft network neighborhood?
[10 Jan/21:55] <quantiple> like change pic.jpg to pic.gif
[10 Jan/21:56] <LosGuy> sheez 
[10 Jan/21:56] <CJ^> Civic  what about it?
[10 Jan/21:56] <LosGuy> I didnt see that... 
[10 Jan/21:56] <LosGuy> paint should be able to do that
[10 Jan/21:56] <LosGuy> or one of MANY pic viewers out there
[10 Jan/21:56] <LosGuy> ie www.hamrick.com for a trial of vueprint pro
[10 Jan/21:56] <quantiple> I used to be able to change it right through editing the name
[10 Jan/21:56] <CivicSpor> i just got on a network and i'm notr able to use the net watcher tool to see who is using my computer
[10 Jan/21:57] <LosGuy> you were not really changing it then quantiple
[10 Jan/21:57] <CJ^> you logged onto the network?
[10 Jan/21:57] <CivicSpor> yeah
[10 Jan/21:57] <quantiple> I know but I want to be able to change it
[10 Jan/21:57] <quantiple> I can't even see the estentions anymore
[10 Jan/21:58] <CJ^> Civic  try here   www.helmig.com
[10 Jan/21:59] <CivicSpor> k
[10 Jan/21:59] <LosGuy> I told you how to see the extensions
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[10 Jan/22:01] <LosGuy> explorer / view / folder options / view tab UNtick the "hide extensions for known file types" box
[10 Jan/22:03] <CivicSpor> i could'nt find anything on that site CJ.....
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[10 Jan/22:05] <LosGuy> `op
[10 Jan/22:05] <LosGuy> `op
[10 Jan/22:05] <CJ^> ok  you can see computers in NN right??
[10 Jan/22:06] <LosGuy> -op
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[10 Jan/22:06] <CivicSpor> yeah
[10 Jan/22:06] <CivicSpor> i can see everyone else on the network
[10 Jan/22:06] <CJ^> ok
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[10 Jan/22:07] <CJ^> have you read the help file in 98 on Net Watcher?
[10 Jan/22:07] <CivicSpor> yeah
[10 Jan/22:08] <CJ^> ok
[10 Jan/22:08] <CJ^> so what is the exact problem then?
[10 Jan/22:08] <CJ^> its nto working??
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[10 Jan/22:08] <`Remy> anybody know where i can get bios updated?
[10 Jan/22:09] <CivicSpor> yeah it's not working
[10 Jan/22:09] <CJ^> Remy  for what computer or mb?
[10 Jan/22:09] <CJ^> Civic.. ok
[10 Jan/22:09] <CJ^> so computers are connected to you correct?
[10 Jan/22:09] <CivicSpor> when i right click and select tools net watcher is shade..can't select
[10 Jan/22:10] <CivicSpor> yeah i'm connected to other computers
[10 Jan/22:10] <`Remy> amibios
[10 Jan/22:10] <CJ^> Remy  ami is a maker of the bios...
[10 Jan/22:10] <CJ^> you need to know the motherboard maker  or the computer maker
[10 Jan/22:11] <CJ^> You can also start Net Watcher by clicking Start, pointing to Programs, pointing to Accessories, pointing to System Tools, and then clicking Net Watcher  << did you do that???
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[10 Jan/22:14] <CJ^> no msgs Civic
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[11 Jan/01:40] @ mode #win98 [+v Amster] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[11 Jan/01:40] <Amster> Hello
[11 Jan/01:40] <Bigs> g'day
[11 Jan/01:41] <Amster> can i add a pci port to my computer ?
[11 Jan/01:41] <Amster> i would need one more
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[11 Jan/02:28] @ mode #win98 [+v X[tez]E] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[11 Jan/02:29] <X[tez]E> Does anyone know where I can get a Windows 98 boot disk(like the one with all the generic cdrom drivers)or how to make one?
[11 Jan/02:33] <X[tez]E> Guess not
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[11 Jan/02:55] <Cue_Ball> WOW
[11 Jan/02:55] <Cue_Ball> a +!!!!!
[11 Jan/02:55] <Bigs> :)
[11 Jan/02:55] <Cue_Ball> hehe
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[11 Jan/03:06] @ mode #win98 [+v D_Diggler] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[11 Jan/03:07] <D_Diggler> is it possible to have one icon open 2 or more programs????
[11 Jan/03:07] <Cue_Ball> dirk diggler
[11 Jan/03:08] <Bigs> ha
[11 Jan/03:08] <D_Diggler> hi cue_ball
[11 Jan/03:08] <Cue_Ball> hey
[11 Jan/03:09] <Cue_Ball> I have LEGAL mp3s!!!
[11 Jan/03:10] <D_Diggler> anybody help me with the icon thing?????
[11 Jan/03:12] <Cue_Ball> you can with a batch file
[11 Jan/03:14] <D_Diggler> was hoping that it would be something easier, 
[11 Jan/03:15] <Cue_Ball> i don't THINK so
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[11 Jan/03:16] <G39> hello
[11 Jan/03:16] <G39> wow! interesting
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[11 Jan/03:19] <G39> anyone here alive?
[11 Jan/03:19] <Bigs> just barely
[11 Jan/03:20] <G39> i c :)
[11 Jan/03:20] <Cue_Ball> passing out......
[11 Jan/03:21] <G39> wonder if anyone can tell me why my LAN (peer to peer, 3 computers) don't require to uses an IP address to comminucate???
[11 Jan/03:21] <G39> protocols used are tcp and netbeui,
[11 Jan/03:21] <G39> 2 computer runs win98 and the other one win 98
[11 Jan/03:21] <G39> win95
[11 Jan/03:22] <G39> the connection used is BNC...
[11 Jan/03:22] <G39> winipcfg shows an ip address but do not reflect the one in tcp ip??
[11 Jan/03:23] <G39> tcp ip is blank?
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[11 Jan/03:36] <_LinuX_> hi everyone
[11 Jan/03:37] <_LinuX_> thax
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[11 Jan/03:44] <MyGoD> bye
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[11 Jan/03:44] * WinNTHelp Does anyone know how i can remove the taskbar (not just hide it) in windows NT for security reasons?
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[11 Jan/04:34] <``remy> anybody know where i can get udated dtiver for following fcc id no?
[11 Jan/04:34] <``remy> jjl3dsound
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[11 Jan/04:47] <Techno1> Anyone know how to set up dial-up server on 98se ?
[11 Jan/04:50] <Techno1> Have a good day...I'll try back later.
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[11 Jan/04:56] <titanic> can anyone tell me which win98 config file points to the win98 spashscreem picture file?
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[11 Jan/05:48] <RaSC> anyone know the shortcut if any of taking a screen shot in win98
[11 Jan/05:50] <RaSC> anyone there?
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[11 Jan/17:28] <Big`Ed> hi Azmodan
[11 Jan/17:28] <Azmodan> hiya Ed
[11 Jan/17:29] <Big`Ed> have a good tuesday?
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[11 Jan/17:46] <Big`Ed> wb
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[11 Jan/17:55] <BigMike> hi all . anyone familiar with CDR's?
[11 Jan/17:55] <BigMike> ??
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[11 Jan/17:56] <Los`Guy> I have one
[11 Jan/17:57] <BigMike> i use to be able to write using different brands of blank CDs etc but now It seems it can only use one brand which is a 'SKC' !?!? know why this could be?
[11 Jan/17:57] <Los`Guy> hmm
[11 Jan/17:57] <BigMike> in easy CD 4 I get the message 'laser calibration' error!?
[11 Jan/17:57] <Los`Guy> no ... unless you have an a
[11 Jan/17:57] <Los`Guy> yes that is what I was just gonna say
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[11 Jan/17:58] <Big`Ed> well guyes
[11 Jan/17:58] <Big`Ed> guys
[11 Jan/17:58] <BigMike> what is that?
[11 Jan/17:58] <Big`Ed> time for me to jam
[11 Jan/17:58] <Los`Guy> send it back to the manufacturer
[11 Jan/17:58] <Big`Ed> hope you all have a great nite
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[11 Jan/17:58] <Los`Guy> to have them adjust the calibration
[11 Jan/17:58] <BigMike> hmmmmmmm yeah .. wonder if there are any CDR diagnostic utils out there?!
[11 Jan/17:58] <Los`Guy> nite Big`Ed
[11 Jan/17:59] <Los`Guy> there are...
[11 Jan/17:59] <Los`Guy> I dont have names for you though
[11 Jan/17:59] < SignOff: Big`Ed!BigEd@01-050.009.popsite.net (<<ÐêtóÑ8®>> v4.01 Digital Damnation Edition.)
[11 Jan/17:59] <Los`Guy> and recalibrating is a mechanical process on every cdr that I have ever seen
[11 Jan/18:00] <BigMike> would that be a big job or can anyone more less do it?!? , re-align the laser?!
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[11 Jan/18:00] <devilDigg> hi all
[11 Jan/18:00] <Los`Guy> no it should be done by the manufacturer of your cdr
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[11 Jan/18:06] <devilDigg> cj^: you back?
[11 Jan/18:07] * Los`Guy has not seen him talk for a while devilDigg
[11 Jan/18:07] <devilDigg> well im having problems with my linux installation
[11 Jan/18:08] <Los`Guy> whats happening devilDigg?
[11 Jan/18:08] <devilDigg> my visibility is about 5% and in #linux im not getting much help
[11 Jan/18:08] <Los`Guy> #linuxyhelp is a much better help channel
[11 Jan/18:08] <Los`Guy> doh -y
[11 Jan/18:08] <devilDigg> ok
[11 Jan/18:08] <Los`Guy> #linuxhelp
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[11 Jan/18:09] <devilDigg> ok
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[11 Jan/18:13] <devilDigg> not much help in there either with my problem (graphics)
[11 Jan/18:13] <Los`Guy> what vid card devilDigg?
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[11 Jan/18:14] <devilDigg> banshee
[11 Jan/18:14] <Azmodan> +
[11 Jan/18:14] <Los`Guy> I assume it would be on the supported list
[11 Jan/18:14] <Azmodan> and in case you missed the reference thats the cross to ward off the evil banshee's
[11 Jan/18:14] <Los`Guy> for redhat that is
[11 Jan/18:14] <devilDigg> didnt see it
[11 Jan/18:14] <Los`Guy> doh
[11 Jan/18:14] <Azmodan> Los`Guy, its not
[11 Jan/18:14] <devilDigg> i got the drivers
[11 Jan/18:14] <Azmodan> devilDigg, visit linux.3dfx.com
[11 Jan/18:14] <Los`Guy> doh
[11 Jan/18:15] <devilDigg> i got them from the 3dfx site
[11 Jan/18:15] <devilDigg> thats where i d/l them from
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[11 Jan/18:15] <devilDigg> the xwindows one
[11 Jan/18:15] @ mode #WIN98 [+v SLeX] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[11 Jan/18:15] <Azmodan> then your set
[11 Jan/18:15] <SLeX> hey
[11 Jan/18:15] <devilDigg> err: xfree one
[11 Jan/18:15] <Azmodan> becuase I used them
[11 Jan/18:15] <devilDigg> hi slex
[11 Jan/18:15] <SLeX> can i ask my ? please
[11 Jan/18:15] <Los`Guy> hi
[11 Jan/18:15] <Los`Guy> go for it 
[11 Jan/18:15] <SLeX> ok this is my problemm when i try to sign on a friends ftp to d/l some pics it freezes at 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls. somone said it might be my netwerk card so i d/led new drivers and it fixed omse sites but others r still messed up please help me thanks
[11 Jan/18:15] <devilDigg> az: but the problem is this
[11 Jan/18:15] <devilDigg> linux doesnt recognize the .rpm file
[11 Jan/18:15] <devilDigg> i put it on a cd-rw and it wont read it, i can hardly see anything (everything is black)
[11 Jan/18:16] <SLeX> .rpm's werk with redhat thats it
[11 Jan/18:16] <devilDigg> so i dont know where my hdd is at
[11 Jan/18:16] <SLeX> does anyone know muh answer???
[11 Jan/18:16] * Los`Guy doesnt SLeX
[11 Jan/18:16] <Azmodan> SLeX, try passive mode
[11 Jan/18:17] <Azmodan> SLeX, sometimes referred to as PASV Mode in your ftp software
[11 Jan/18:17] <devilDigg> slex: transfer them in binary mode
[11 Jan/18:17] <devilDigg> NOT ascii mode
[11 Jan/18:17] ! CJbrb is known as CJ^
[11 Jan/18:17] <Los`Guy> doh
[11 Jan/18:17] <CJ^> Slex rom work in ANYTHING
[11 Jan/18:17] <devilDigg> thank god you are back
[11 Jan/18:17] <CJ^> er RPM's
[11 Jan/18:19] <CJ^> what BS are you talking???/
[11 Jan/18:19] <devilDigg> cj: mandrake is installed
[11 Jan/18:19] <CJ^> kewl DD
[11 Jan/18:19] <CJ^> now whats with the rpm??
[11 Jan/18:19] <devilDigg> and i d/l the drivers visibility 5%
[11 Jan/18:19] <devilDigg> it wont recognize the .rpm file
[11 Jan/18:19] <devilDigg> i d/l the xfree drivers for the banshee
[11 Jan/18:20] <CJ^> it says what?
[11 Jan/18:20] <devilDigg> it cant open the file
[11 Jan/18:20] <CJ^> that its not an RPM file correct?
[11 Jan/18:20] <devilDigg> it is a .rpm file
[11 Jan/18:20] <CJ^> ok   whats teh full extension on it?
[11 Jan/18:20] <CJ^> ok..
[11 Jan/18:20] <devilDigg> XFree86-SVGA-3.3.5-0.6.1.i386.rpm
[11 Jan/18:20] <CJ^> look at it again
[11 Jan/18:20] <devilDigg> thats the file name
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[11 Jan/18:22] <SLeX> wring help channel
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[11 Jan/18:22] <devilDigg> no prob slex, did you change ascii mode to binary?
[11 Jan/18:22] <CJ^> :P
[11 Jan/18:22] <devilDigg> cj: yeah its my default for irc now :)
[11 Jan/18:22] <CJ^> kewls..
[11 Jan/18:22] <devilDigg> yup
[11 Jan/18:22] <CJ^> brought another to the Dark side...
[11 Jan/18:23] <devilDigg> heh
[11 Jan/18:23] <CJ^> Jamie will keep ya posted via email of upgrades too
[11 Jan/18:23] <Los`Guy>  <<ÐêtóÑ8®>> v4.0  Digital Damnation Edition.
[11 Jan/18:23] <CJ^> thats why ya did the email add when ya got it...
[11 Jan/18:23] <Los`Guy> hehe
[11 Jan/18:23] <devilDigg> anyway back to linux over here its 12:21 AM and i have finals tomorow
[11 Jan/18:23] <CJ^> lol
[11 Jan/18:23] <CJ^> ok
[11 Jan/18:23] <CJ^> logon as root
[11 Jan/18:23] <CJ^> OR
[11 Jan/18:23] <CJ^> as the user you want
[11 Jan/18:23] <CJ^> then do this
[11 Jan/18:23] <CJ^> su
[11 Jan/18:23] <CJ^> thast super use
[11 Jan/18:23] <CJ^> it will ask for the password... 
[11 Jan/18:23] <CJ^> use root password..
[11 Jan/18:24] <CJ^> then to the rpm install
[11 Jan/18:24] <devilDigg> ok
[11 Jan/18:24] <CJ^> rpm -Uvh filename.rpm
[11 Jan/18:24] <devilDigg> thanks brb
[11 Jan/18:24] <devilDigg> oh
[11 Jan/18:24] <CJ^> ok
[11 Jan/18:24] <devilDigg> wait..
[11 Jan/18:24] <CJ^> yes  like that...
[11 Jan/18:24] <devilDigg> in x, if i click on the file it will popup an installer window
[11 Jan/18:24] <CJ^> yes
[11 Jan/18:24] <CJ^> i know
[11 Jan/18:24] <devilDigg> do not go with teh installer window?
[11 Jan/18:24] <CJ^> but you have to be root
[11 Jan/18:24] <Los`Guy> wont work unless you have root privilages though
[11 Jan/18:24] <CJ^> do it at promt
[11 Jan/18:24] <CJ^> naah
[11 Jan/18:25] <CJ^> learn that later
[11 Jan/18:25] <CJ^> do rpms at xterm or console...\
[11 Jan/18:25] <devilDigg> oh, so how do i not load X ?
[11 Jan/18:25] <CJ^> just get in X
[11 Jan/18:25] <devilDigg> i set it to automatically load
[11 Jan/18:25] <CJ^> then  see in KDE onteh taskbar...
[11 Jan/18:25] <devilDigg> oh and go to the prompt
[11 Jan/18:25] <CJ^> there is an ICON
[11 Jan/18:25] <CJ^> right
[11 Jan/18:25] <devilDigg> i get you know
[11 Jan/18:25] <CJ^> the monitor with a shell on it
[11 Jan/18:25] <devilDigg> i cant see icons, i can jsut read the letters
[11 Jan/18:25] <devilDigg> :)
[11 Jan/18:25] <CJ^> go there
[11 Jan/18:25] <CJ^> and do su
[11 Jan/18:25] <CJ^> password
[11 Jan/18:26] <CJ^> rpm -Uvh filename.rpm
[11 Jan/18:26] <Azmodan> ctrl-alt-backspace to kill X
[11 Jan/18:26] <CJ^> right
[11 Jan/18:26] <CJ^> then run 
[11 Jan/18:26] <CJ^> Xconfigurator
[11 Jan/18:26] <Azmodan> or ctrl-alt-f2 to get a seperate console
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[11 Jan/18:26] <CJ^> rem   X  capital X
[11 Jan/18:27] <devilDigg> ok wait
[11 Jan/18:27] <CJ^> yes?
[11 Jan/18:27] <devilDigg> after i install, press ctrl-alt-f2
[11 Jan/18:27] <CJ^> well either one
[11 Jan/18:27] <devilDigg> i get a seperate console and type X
[11 Jan/18:27] <CJ^> you can do this....
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[11 Jan/18:28] <devilDigg> pyro!!!!
[11 Jan/18:28] <pyrokiwi> hiya guys
[11 Jan/18:28] <CJ^> you can do crtl-alt-f2
[11 Jan/18:28] <CJ^> get to console
[11 Jan/18:28] <CJ^> install the rpm
[11 Jan/18:28] <pyrokiwi> i been rockclimbing :)
[11 Jan/18:28] <CJ^> run Xconfigurator
[11 Jan/18:28] <CJ^> after its all done...
[11 Jan/18:28] <CJ^> crtl-alt-bksp
[11 Jan/18:28] <CJ^> kills X
[11 Jan/18:28] <CJ^> but if you set X to start at boot it will
[11 Jan/18:28] <CJ^> NOW
[11 Jan/18:28] <CJ^> the other way to restart the init...
[11 Jan/18:29] <devilDigg> ok im a bit lost
[11 Jan/18:29] <CJ^> kill -HUP -1
[11 Jan/18:29] <devilDigg> su
[11 Jan/18:29] <CJ^> LOL
[11 Jan/18:29] <devilDigg> password
[11 Jan/18:29] <CJ^> yes
[11 Jan/18:29] <devilDigg> -Uhv filename.rpm
[11 Jan/18:29] <CJ^> no
[11 Jan/18:29] <pyrokiwi> hehe some1s learning linux
[11 Jan/18:29] <CJ^> rpm -Uvh filename.rpm
[11 Jan/18:29] <devilDigg> yes me..
[11 Jan/18:29] <CJ^> just like htat
[11 Jan/18:29] <devilDigg> oh :)
[11 Jan/18:31] <CJ^> then... after it installs...
[11 Jan/18:31] * pyrokiwi still needs to finsish setting his box up
[11 Jan/18:31] <CJ^> Xconfigurator
[11 Jan/18:31] <pyrokiwi> but i may be getting a moniter soon :)
[11 Jan/18:31] <CJ^> go through the motions
[11 Jan/18:31] <CJ^> install the card
[11 Jan/18:31] <CJ^> set teh rez
[11 Jan/18:31] <CJ^> and.....
[11 Jan/18:31] <CJ^> dont let it set X to start at boot up
[11 Jan/18:31] <CJ^> always start at console
[11 Jan/18:31] <devilDigg> rez= resolution right?
[11 Jan/18:31] <CJ^> right
[11 Jan/18:31] <devilDigg> um how do i set it to always start at console?
[11 Jan/18:31] <CJ^> the banshee shoudl be fine at 1024x768 16 bit
[11 Jan/18:31] <CJ^> when it tests the res
[11 Jan/18:31] <CJ^> it will say  can you see this....
[11 Jan/18:31] <devilDigg> yeah i knw, but this monitor sucks with 1024, so i will set it to 800x600
[11 Jan/18:31] <CJ^> click yes
[11 Jan/18:31] <devilDigg> 16 bit
[11 Jan/18:31] <devilDigg> ok
[11 Jan/18:31] <CJ^> then  it will ask if you want to start x at boot up
[11 Jan/18:31] <CJ^> choose no
[11 Jan/18:31] <devilDigg> ok
[11 Jan/18:31] <devilDigg> brb
[11 Jan/18:31] <devilDigg> before i leave anything else i need to knwo?
[11 Jan/18:31] <devilDigg> know too..
[11 Jan/18:31] <CJ^> yes
[11 Jan/18:31] <devilDigg> what?
[11 Jan/18:31] <CJ^> always have a boot disk handy
[11 Jan/18:31] <devilDigg> ok i will make one tommorow
[11 Jan/18:31] <Los`Guy> haha
[11 Jan/18:32] <CJ^> next week...
[11 Jan/18:32] <CJ^> kernel upgrades...
[11 Jan/18:32] <Los`Guy> hmmm
[11 Jan/18:32] <devilDigg> no tommorow, (i already made a sticky of it on my desktop) that is for serious stuff
[11 Jan/18:32] <CJ^> and an in depth look at insmod..
[11 Jan/18:32] <Los`Guy> I need to install linux on this box
[11 Jan/18:32] <devilDigg> ok
[11 Jan/18:32] <devilDigg> brb
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[11 Jan/18:32] <Los`Guy> reminded me...wonder how much faster this box will compile a kernal
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[11 Jan/18:33] * pyrokiwi has almost finsished his script
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[11 Jan/18:33] <pyrokiwi> hmmmmm
[11 Jan/18:33] <pyrokiwi> rockclimbing was fun
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[11 Jan/18:36] <DaveB`> any idea  what would cause.. divide error in module GDI.EXE
[11 Jan/18:36] <pyrokiwi> well when does it happen?
[11 Jan/18:36] <Los`Guy> bad software DaveB`
[11 Jan/18:36] <DaveB`> happens at random
[11 Jan/18:36] <DaveB`> here on IRC     on webpages
[11 Jan/18:36] <pyrokiwi> ok
[11 Jan/18:36] <pyrokiwi> gdi is some program any ideas what?
[11 Jan/18:37] <DaveB`> Los    i have re-installed Win98 3 or 4 times
[11 Jan/18:37] <DaveB`> still same errors
[11 Jan/18:37] <CJ^> re-installed 98 on top of itself???
[11 Jan/18:37] <DaveB`> yes
[11 Jan/18:37] <CJ^> bad idea..
[11 Jan/18:37] <pyrokiwi> wat other software hav u installed?
[11 Jan/18:37] <CJ^> dont 
[11 Jan/18:37] <DaveB`> figures
[11 Jan/18:37] <CJ^> clean install work best
[11 Jan/18:37] <CJ^> if you have issues...
[11 Jan/18:37] <CJ^> run sfc
[11 Jan/18:37] <CJ^> see if there any corrupted files.
[11 Jan/18:37] <DaveB`> would a bad HD cause that as well?
[11 Jan/18:38] <CJ^> if it corrupts files...
[11 Jan/18:38] <CJ^> but dont look that deep really..
[11 Jan/18:38] <DaveB`> it might well be
[11 Jan/18:38] <CJ^> start at th apps you have running
[11 Jan/18:38] <DaveB`> how do I do the sfc?
[11 Jan/18:38] <DaveB`> this 98 is new to me?
[11 Jan/18:38] <CJ^> start
[11 Jan/18:38] <CJ^> run
[11 Jan/18:38] <pyrokiwi> start-run-sfc
[11 Jan/18:38] <CJ^> type 
[11 Jan/18:38] <CJ^> sfc
[11 Jan/18:38] <DaveB`> ahh ok
[11 Jan/18:40] <DaveB`> thanks for the help :)
[11 Jan/18:40] <pyrokiwi> :) np
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[11 Jan/18:45] <pyrokiwi> yo LosGuy
[11 Jan/18:45] <pyrokiwi> btw do u think ppl would pay more/less 4 a linux box? then a win box?
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[11 Jan/18:45] <CJ^> ppl will pay for what they want
[11 Jan/18:45] <beaker23> hey anyone here good with networking??
[11 Jan/18:45] <CJ^> whats the problem beaker?
[11 Jan/18:45] <pyrokiwi> hmmm beaker23 state ur prob 
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[11 Jan/18:45] <beaker23> i have 2 internet connections 1 cable modem with static ip and a dsl with pppoe (dynamic ip)
[11 Jan/18:45] <beaker23> i need to redirect all port 21 activity to the dsl
[11 Jan/18:45] <beaker23> everything else to cable?
[11 Jan/18:45] <CJ^> why ya doing both?
[11 Jan/18:45] <beaker23> any ideas on what software i could use ?
[11 Jan/18:45] <beaker23> I get dsl free from work
[11 Jan/18:45] <beaker23> but cable is way faster
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[11 Jan/18:45] <MrServ0n> i have a sound blaster live and My sound some days sounds good and others like know my winamp is all fuzzy and my blitz 2000 sounds like shit, and when i boot my pc i get SB16 Alert and have to click on it 2wice in order to boot my machine! i hate it
[11 Jan/18:45] <CJ^> MrServon
[11 Jan/18:45] <CJ^> cause your using DOS drivers 
[11 Jan/18:45] <wez> and <i>I</i> hate <b>you</B>
[11 Jan/18:45] <CJ^> get them outta the autoexec.bat and config.sys
[11 Jan/18:45] <CJ^> and  no cussing
[11 Jan/18:45] <wez> :)
[11 Jan/18:45] <beaker23> so any ideas?
[11 Jan/18:45] <MrServ0n> cj? hmm lemme have a look
[11 Jan/18:45] <beaker23> i guess it would be load sharing in a way
[11 Jan/18:45] <CJ^> beaker... might wanna try sygate
[11 Jan/18:45] <beaker23> anything like wingate?
[11 Jan/18:45] <LosGuy> or winroute and map port21
[11 Jan/18:45] <kcjones> could someone tell give me some tips on making my com run smoother/faster?
[11 Jan/18:45] <beaker23> hmmm, may do it as wingate has no options i can see for that
[11 Jan/18:45] <MrServ0n> Ok i just went to edit my autoexec.bat. and umm its not there..
[11 Jan/18:45] <LosGuy> I dont know if winroute will do it either
[11 Jan/18:46] <CJ^> MrServ  then when during boot up are you getting the errror msg?
[11 Jan/18:46] <beaker23> well i gotta try anyway , i have 2 nics and 2 ips, and wanna use both at th same time
[11 Jan/18:46] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm
[11 Jan/18:46] <MrServ0n> yea as soon as windows loads i get SB16 DRIVER ALERT
[11 Jan/18:47] <pyrokiwi> how many pcs?
[11 Jan/18:47] <beaker23> 1pc
[11 Jan/18:47] <beaker23> thats the problem
[11 Jan/18:47] <CJ^> MrServ  thats the DOS driver its looking for...
[11 Jan/18:47] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm
[11 Jan/18:47] <CJ^> persoanlly  i removed the SB card..
[11 Jan/18:47] <CJ^> and reinstalled..
[11 Jan/18:47] <CJ^> chosing custom install on the drivers..
[11 Jan/18:47] <pyrokiwi> y u want both though if ya have cable y do u need dialup?
[11 Jan/18:47] <MrServ0n> So what do i do re-install the software and drivers?
[11 Jan/18:47] <CJ^> and not install teh DOS mode drivers..
[11 Jan/18:47] <LosGuy> he may have a conflict 
[11 Jan/18:47] <CJ^> worked well for me that way
[11 Jan/18:48] <beaker23> not
[11 Jan/18:48] <MrServ0n> k ill try bbiab
[11 Jan/18:48] <MrServ0n> thanks
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[11 Jan/18:48] <beaker23> the dsl connects ussing a ppp authentication
[11 Jan/18:48] <beaker23> then after that the ethernet kicks in
[11 Jan/18:48] <CJ^> odd way of connecting....
[11 Jan/18:48] <beaker23> yeah
[11 Jan/18:48] <beaker23> but it s free
[11 Jan/18:49] <CJ^> heh
[11 Jan/18:49] <CJ^> cant beat that
[11 Jan/18:49] <pyrokiwi> well then dont use cable save money and buy new pc :)
[11 Jan/18:51] <beaker23> yeah thats what i hear..
[11 Jan/18:51] <beaker23> but this would be great to be able to figure out for work
[11 Jan/18:51] <pyrokiwi> hmmmmm
[11 Jan/18:51] <pyrokiwi> wellll hmmmmmm let me see y do u want to use both at same time?
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[11 Jan/18:51] <CJ^> thats difficult to do..
[11 Jan/18:51] <pyrokiwi> ur pc wont be fast enough really if 1 is cable
[11 Jan/18:51] <CJ^> but it is possible....:P
[11 Jan/18:51] <beaker23> cause i have a limit on cable..
[11 Jan/18:51] <beaker23> so all the downloads go through dsl , everything else on cable
[11 Jan/18:51] <pyrokiwi> ahhhh
[11 Jan/18:51] <pyrokiwi> well in that case almost impossable
[11 Jan/18:51] <pyrokiwi> btw y do it that way
[11 Jan/18:51] <LosGuy> uh I dont think what you want is possible
[11 Jan/18:52] <LosGuy> Ithought you had an ftp site on the dsl
[11 Jan/18:52] <beaker23> gotta be, win2000 supports it as well as linux
[11 Jan/18:52] <LosGuy> you have two different IPs then
[11 Jan/18:52] <beaker23> no i want to transfer through 21
[11 Jan/18:52] <beaker23> yup
[11 Jan/18:52] <pyrokiwi> hmmmm oh well ill let ya do it
[11 Jan/18:52] <beaker23> @home is my cable
[11 Jan/18:52] <beaker23> and dsl is from work
[11 Jan/18:52] <LosGuy> so whenyou click on a link it is gonna send to another IP? hmmm
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[11 Jan/18:53] <beaker23> no.. all links go the same way no matter the ispo
[11 Jan/18:53] <beaker23> isp
[11 Jan/18:53] <CJ^> beaker.. but what it does come down to is this..
[11 Jan/18:53] <beaker23> hmm
[11 Jan/18:53] <CJ^> TCP and all networking try to use the fastest way to travel...
[11 Jan/18:53] <beaker23> yeah
[11 Jan/18:53] <CJ^> having to means of netowrking in one machine can actually slow it down...
[11 Jan/18:54] <beaker23> i want to tell them go here or there..
[11 Jan/18:54] <beaker23> like routing
[11 Jan/18:55] <CJ^> well....
[11 Jan/18:55] <_aRiEs_> how can i configure win98 second edition to be a server using internet sharing not wingate!
[11 Jan/18:55] <CJ^> you cant actualy aries
[11 Jan/18:55] <CJ^> ICS isnt made to do that
[11 Jan/18:55] <_aRiEs_> ah oic!
[11 Jan/18:55] <LosGuy> hmm
[11 Jan/18:56] <LosGuy> server meaning?
[11 Jan/18:56] <_aRiEs_> yeah losguy
[11 Jan/18:56] <LosGuy> that was not a yeah or no question
[11 Jan/18:56] <CJ^> well.. what type of server??
[11 Jan/18:56] <CJ^> ftp server?
[11 Jan/18:56] <CJ^> file server?
[11 Jan/18:56] <CJ^> what
[11 Jan/18:56] <_aRiEs_> both
[11 Jan/18:57] <CJ^> then go get NT
[11 Jan/18:57] <CJ^> i mena
[11 Jan/18:57] <CJ^> you can do ftp server with an FTP app...
[11 Jan/18:57] <CJ^> but...
[11 Jan/18:57] <LosGuy> if you just want to share an internet connection you can use ICS
[11 Jan/18:57] <CJ^> 98 isnt really a server OS...
[11 Jan/18:57] <LosGuy> else ....listen to CJ^
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[11 Jan/18:58] <beaker23> yeah... tru
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[11 Jan/18:59] <CJ^> ask in channel MrServ
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[11 Jan/18:59] <CJ^> in channel
[11 Jan/18:59] <CJ^> no msgs
[11 Jan/18:59] <all4not> does it slow down my computer to mix pc100 memory and reg memory?
[11 Jan/18:59] <CJ^> all.. meaning??
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[11 Jan/19:00] <MrServ0n> i still get CMI's SB16 ALERT alert on boot up
[11 Jan/19:00] <CJ^> PC100 sdram and PC66 sdram?
[11 Jan/19:00] <MrServ0n> i reinstalled the drivers too. and left the dos drivers out
[11 Jan/19:00] <CJ^> CMI??
[11 Jan/19:00] <LosGuy> mixing RAM is not smart usually
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[11 Jan/19:00] <CJ^> MrServe  you have on-board sound???
[11 Jan/19:00] <MrServ0n> I do.
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[11 Jan/19:00] <CJ^> that why
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[11 Jan/19:00] <CJ^> you still have the older sound drivers loading
[11 Jan/19:00] <CJ^> disable the on-board chip
[11 Jan/19:00] <CJ^> in bios
[11 Jan/19:00] <CJ^> and remove the drivers from win
[11 Jan/19:01] <MrServ0n> I cant fig it out i disabled the WSS sound system in windows system config
[11 Jan/19:01] <^pup> anyone know about office 97?
[11 Jan/19:01] <CJ^> Mr srv..
[11 Jan/19:01] <MrServ0n> I cant fig out how to diable the onboard one in bios i dont think you can
[11 Jan/19:01] <CJ^> but you still have those drivers loading..
[11 Jan/19:01] <CJ^> cause you didnt disable the on-board sound in bios
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[11 Jan/19:02] <MrServ0n> How do i go about doing so any idea on what section its in? do i change an IRQ in Bios or how do i find out?
[11 Jan/19:02] <CJ^> at boot up
[11 Jan/19:02] <CJ^> hit del
[11 Jan/19:02] <MrServ0n> right i know that..
[11 Jan/19:02] <CJ^> there will be a section for the sound card under Periphals
[11 Jan/19:02] <CJ^> er  yeah
[11 Jan/19:02] <CJ^> your MB manula can also tell you how to do this...
[11 Jan/19:03] <CJ^> er manual...
[11 Jan/19:03] <MrServ0n> its under peripherals?? ok.. then what?
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[11 Jan/19:03] <CJ^> look for the on-board sound
[11 Jan/19:04] <CJ^> there shoudl be somthign to disable it there
[11 Jan/19:04] <MrServ0n> brb ill reboot and tell ya what i see..
[11 Jan/19:04] <MrServ0n> bbiab
[11 Jan/19:04] <CJ^> OR check the MB manual
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[11 Jan/19:14] <MrServ0n> CJ nothing there about a sound card
[11 Jan/19:14] <MrServ0n> i found my MB book..
[11 Jan/19:14] <LosGuy> it might be a jumper
[11 Jan/19:14] <MrServ0n> im looking through it
[11 Jan/19:15] <CJ^> some of them disable the sound automatically by removing a ribbon attached to the board...
[11 Jan/19:15] <CJ^> do you have one like that?
[11 Jan/19:19] <MrServ0n> I did remove the ribbon, put it this way, I know the sound blaster live value is working because all the software works for it if i use sound blaster live's .mp3 player it works fine, or anything associated with thier toolbar, anything else is fuzzy. and i still get the CMI SB16 driver alert.. it must be something in the configuration 
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[11 Jan/19:19] <MrServ0n> i found something in the MB book, says Onboard Sound Selector and shows a pic of it to be diabled must have a jumper on #5, and it doesnt. Problem is I dont have any jumpers laying around, and i cant just pull one off somewhere else on the board :_
[11 Jan/19:25] <LosBrb> get one from an electronics store
[11 Jan/19:25] <MrServ0n> i dont really wanna wait that long
[11 Jan/19:25] <LosBrb> sheez
[11 Jan/19:25] <MrServ0n> poopy Motherboards with onboard garbage.. i hate em
[11 Jan/19:25] ! LosBrb is known as LosGuy
[11 Jan/19:25] <CJ^> the CMI is casuign the conflict
[11 Jan/19:25] <CJ^> that on-board sound chip is the conflict
[11 Jan/19:25] <CJ^> either that or the driver
[11 Jan/19:25] <CJ^> NOW
[11 Jan/19:25] <CJ^> in teh device manager  if its still there  the drive will get loaded..
[11 Jan/19:25] <CJ^> hmm
[11 Jan/19:25] <CJ^> well i could DCC ya one...
[11 Jan/19:25] <CJ^> dont think it would work though....
[11 Jan/19:25] <CJ^> :P
[11 Jan/19:25] <CJ^> heck
[11 Jan/19:25] <CJ^> i got a few dozen million of em laying around...
[11 Jan/19:27] <CJ^> heh
[11 Jan/19:27] <CJ^> yeah  but you bought it right?????
[11 Jan/19:27] <LosGuy> no hardware on channel :P
[11 Jan/19:27] <LosGuy> doh its not in the topic
[11 Jan/19:27] <MrServ0n> yes]
[11 Jan/19:27] <CJ^> heh
[11 Jan/19:27] <CJ^> lesson learned...:P
[11 Jan/19:27] <CJ^> been there
[11 Jan/19:27] <CJ^> i use those boads for soldering practice now...
[11 Jan/19:27] <MrServ0n> yea i know i dont deserve to be alive. So how do i tell which drivers are used by what?
[11 Jan/19:28] <CJ^> well...  avoid the whole issue..
[11 Jan/19:28] <CJ^> and use the jumper
[11 Jan/19:28] <CJ^> BUT
[11 Jan/19:29] <CJ^> if you go int eh device manager
[11 Jan/19:29] <CJ^> and look at all the sond devices
[11 Jan/19:29] <CJ^> propoerties
[11 Jan/19:29] <CJ^> driver tab
[11 Jan/19:29] <CJ^> it shoudl tellyya there...
[11 Jan/19:29] <CJ^> shoudl...
[11 Jan/19:30] <MrServ0n> yea i belive all the drivers with the maufactuer CREATIVE are the live ones and the C-media ones are the onboard so im gonna try disabling all C-media manufactured drivers
[11 Jan/19:30] <CJ^> right
[11 Jan/19:30] <MrServ0n> bbiab
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[11 Jan/19:35] <MrServ0n> CJ, works like a charm now. excellant
[11 Jan/19:35] <CJ^> used teh jumper?
[11 Jan/19:35] <CJ^> or disabled those drivers?
[11 Jan/19:35] <MrServ0n> disabled c-media drivers
[11 Jan/19:35] <CJ^> ahh
[11 Jan/19:35] <CJ^> well that shoudl work for now...
[11 Jan/19:35] <CJ^> till ya jumper it
[11 Jan/19:35] <MrServ0n> no more SB16 alert or nothin, and ive had this card for a whole month like that too :
[11 Jan/19:35] <MrServ0n> :)
[11 Jan/19:35] <MrServ0n> alright thanks see ya next time
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[11 Jan/19:37] * LosGuy just wiped his linux install on this box and am reinstalling
[11 Jan/19:38] <CJ^> :P
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[11 Jan/20:29] <Slick_51> anyone helping?
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[11 Jan/20:30] <LosGuy> depends on  the problem Slick_51
[11 Jan/20:30] <Slick_51> have 2 of them
[11 Jan/20:31] * LosGuy hopes that Slick_51 is not waiting for someone to ask him what they are
[11 Jan/20:31] <Azmodan> I hope so too
[11 Jan/20:31] <Azmodan> he could be hours
[11 Jan/20:32] <Slick_51> first, i got a sound card for my other computer and i install the drives and software no problem but when i reboot there gone and i have to do it over again and again, do you know what this maybe?
[11 Jan/20:34] <LosGuy> drivers AND software are gone?
[11 Jan/20:34] <Slick_51> yep
[11 Jan/20:34] <Slick_51> crazy
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[11 Jan/20:35] <Slick_51> sorry about that.
[11 Jan/20:35] <LosGuy> conflicts in control panel / system?
[11 Jan/20:35] <Slick_51> not that i see.
[11 Jan/20:36] <Slick_51> no x's or !'s.
[11 Jan/20:37] <Slick_51> it seems that it wants the onboard sound to install but i have disable them
[11 Jan/20:37] <LosGuy> disabled where?
[11 Jan/20:37] <LosGuy> in bios? on the board itself?
[11 Jan/20:38] <Slick_51> on the motherboard, i have too move the jumpers
[11 Jan/20:38] <Slick_51> has 3, onboard sound is 1 2........and off is 2 3.
[11 Jan/20:39] <LosGuy> hmm Slick_51 still sounds like yer right that it is trying to use that though
[11 Jan/20:39] <Slick_51> there is one way i can fix it but i think it causes alot of problems.
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[11 Jan/20:45] <Slick_51> thanks
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[12 Jan/17:33] <Scotty> any ms-word savvy folks here?
[12 Jan/17:34] <LosGuy> not I
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[12 Jan/17:36] <Big`Ed> wb Los`Guy
[12 Jan/17:36] <Los`Guy> just testing this out
[12 Jan/17:36] <Big`Ed> bah
[12 Jan/17:37] <Los`Guy> haha
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[12 Jan/17:43] <LosGuy> `say
[12 Jan/17:44] <Tribble> say
[12 Jan/17:44] <Los`Guy> ahah
[12 Jan/17:46] <Mandy> say
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[12 Jan/17:58] @ mode #WIN98 [+v ir] by Vulcan_!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[12 Jan/17:59] <ir> hey can someone help me out with internet explorer
[12 Jan/17:59] <Big`Ed> like how?
[12 Jan/17:59] <ir> anyone?
[12 Jan/18:00] <ir> well, i went to the update, and d/l all the critical things it told me to d/l, there was a bunch of security features
[12 Jan/18:01] <Big`Ed> yes
[12 Jan/18:01] <Big`Ed> windowsupdate site has lots of things
[12 Jan/18:01] <ir> and now when i got to check my grades or my school account, i punch in the numbers and stuff, and it tells me the page is unavailable
[12 Jan/18:01] ! Heebee is known as Jeebee
[12 Jan/18:01] <ir> but i d/l netscape right now, and it works on there
[12 Jan/18:01] <ir> same thing for my student loan page
[12 Jan/18:02] <Big`Ed> security settings probabally
[12 Jan/18:02] <Big`Ed> go to tools, options
[12 Jan/18:02] <Big`Ed> security tab
[12 Jan/18:02] <ir> ok
[12 Jan/18:03] <Big`Ed> are you SURE you did NOT load any other non-microsoft internet tools on your PC?
[12 Jan/18:03] <ir> yeah ok
[12 Jan/18:03] <Big`Ed> on that first page that comes up, what is the setting?
[12 Jan/18:03] <ir> everything is set to medium
[12 Jan/18:03] <ir> only the ones from microsoft.com
[12 Jan/18:03] <ir> internet
[12 Jan/18:03] <ir> it is set at medium
[12 Jan/18:03] <Big`Ed> those are not default then
[12 Jan/18:03] <ir> set them to default
[12 Jan/18:04] <Big`Ed> trusted sites are low, and restricted sites are high
[12 Jan/18:04] <Big`Ed> windowsupdate did NOT change those
[12 Jan/18:04] * Big`Ed has to go though
[12 Jan/18:04] <ir> internet is medium, intranet is medium low, and the rest i like you said
[12 Jan/18:04] <Big`Ed> try resetting them
[12 Jan/18:05] <Big`Ed> custom, reset
[12 Jan/18:05] <Big`Ed> nite
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[12 Jan/18:06] <ir> can anybody else help me 
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[12 Jan/18:06] <ir> or set me to the right direction
[12 Jan/18:06] <Los`Guy> did you try what Ed said?
[12 Jan/18:07] <^16volt> i have a problem, i have high heat baseball99 and everytime i try to run it, my system gets a blank screen and locks up, anyone have any suggestions?
[12 Jan/18:07] <ir> yup
[12 Jan/18:07] <ir> didnt work
[12 Jan/18:07] <Los`Guy> did it work before your updates ir?
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[12 Jan/18:08] <ir> yup
[12 Jan/18:08] <Los`Guy> ^16volt: updated your vid drivers? check the manufacuturers page?
[12 Jan/18:08] <vw_bob> hey people -- anyone here happen to have the slightest clue why I get windows protection errors on startup?
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[12 Jan/18:08] <^16volt> i did, and i have the latest directx 7.0
[12 Jan/18:08] <vw_bob> I just installed office 2000
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[12 Jan/18:10] <vw_bob> I seem to have totaly lost this install.  is there ANYTHING I can do to fix this?  please help me -- this ruins days of work
[12 Jan/18:11] <Los`Guy> vw try searching deja.com and the MS kb
[12 Jan/18:11] <Los`Guy> I have to run for a bit
[12 Jan/18:11] <Los`Guy> ir you should try the same
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[12 Jan/18:24] <jet350> Hey los you busy?
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[12 Jan/18:28] <LosGuy> hi jet350
[12 Jan/18:28] <jet350> hey you are here
[12 Jan/18:28] <LosGuy> kinda in and out
[12 Jan/18:28] <jet350> will it cause a problem to ask about IE5?
[12 Jan/18:28] <jet350> and how I cant get to the web
[12 Jan/18:30] <LosGuy> jet350 do a find on your system for wsock32.dll
[12 Jan/18:30] <LosGuy> (your whole system)
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[12 Jan/18:30] <jet350> k give me a sec
[12 Jan/18:31] <jet350> yep got it
[12 Jan/18:31] <LosGuy> just one>'
[12 Jan/18:32] <LosGuy> just one>?
[12 Jan/18:32] <jet350> yes
[12 Jan/18:32] <LosGuy> OK good
[12 Jan/18:32] <LosGuy> what error do you get when you try?
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[12 Jan/18:33] <jet350> no errow it finds the site and waiting for reply on every site I try
[12 Jan/18:33] <jet350> errow
[12 Jan/18:33] <jet350> error
[12 Jan/18:34] <jet350> I had this problem with 1 I made for my sis but that was a AOL thing and ended in a format
[12 Jan/18:36] <LosGuy> jet350 what changed recently on that system?
[12 Jan/18:37] <LosGuy> is it possible your ISP is just having problems?
[12 Jan/18:37] <jet350> I have 2 and get the same from them both
[12 Jan/18:38] <jet350> changes 1 is the install of conceal
[12 Jan/18:38] <LosGuy> hah
[12 Jan/18:38] <LosGuy> turned it off?
[12 Jan/18:38] <LosGuy> and see if that changes things?
[12 Jan/18:38] <jet350> to which I have uninstalled as well
[12 Jan/18:38] <LosGuy> have you run SFC?
[12 Jan/18:39] <jet350> no that I have not done and will do now thanks
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[12 Jan/18:41] <LosGuy> jet350 the page should also give an error after a certain amoung of time ie page can not be found or an internal error occured
[12 Jan/18:41] <LosGuy> also check the logs that SFC makes to see if you need to extract related files
[12 Jan/18:41] <jet350> it does get to that after a 3 to 4 minute time
[12 Jan/18:41] <LosGuy> what error then jet350?
[12 Jan/18:42] <jet350> page cannot be displayed
[12 Jan/18:42] ! [Zeus] is known as HouseWife
[12 Jan/18:42] <LosGuy> which ver of IE?
[12 Jan/18:42] <jet350> sorry I did miss that at first
[12 Jan/18:42] <jet350> IE5
[12 Jan/18:44] <jet350> SFC didnt find anything so I changed the settins to look for altered or deleted
[12 Jan/18:44] <LosGuy> it wont find anything now ..
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[12 Jan/18:44] <LosGuy> but view the logs you made on the last scan
[12 Jan/18:44] <jet350> ok it didnt 
[12 Jan/18:45] <LosGuy> under settings
[12 Jan/18:45] <LosGuy> view log
[12 Jan/18:45] <jet350> ok what I am looking for then?
[12 Jan/18:46] <LosGuy> any files that were replaced by other versions ..especially winsock related ones
[12 Jan/18:47] <jet350> replaced or updated?
[12 Jan/18:47] <LosGuy> yeah http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q175/7/22.asp?LNG=ENG&SA=PER
[12 Jan/18:47] <LosGuy> have a look there also
[12 Jan/18:47] <jet350> ok this will tkae some time-thanks
[12 Jan/18:48] <jet350> oh oh cant goto the site
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[12 Jan/18:48] <skully> this is probably a really dumb quest, however, when I click on a link, the window opens like 1/3 of its size...and i need to maximize it, i have searched and where do i find the prop...to change it open lg? thanks
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[12 Jan/18:50] <LosGuy> skully its not dumb and sorry I dont know the awnser... alot of people ask that one.. but I have never found that fix
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[12 Jan/18:51] <LosGuy> doh sorry jet350 hehe forgot
[12 Jan/18:51] <Europa1> I've got a burner in win98 but it spits out blanks when I put them in...what's going on?
[12 Jan/18:51] <LosGuy> Europa1 are you using the software that came with the burner?
[12 Jan/18:51] <jet350> thats ok hehe
[12 Jan/18:51] <Europa1> yep
[12 Jan/18:52] <Europa1> it sees that I have a burner but win98 intersepts the blanks...
[12 Jan/18:52] <LosGuy> what ever that means
[12 Jan/18:52] <Europa1> I turned off autoinsert
[12 Jan/18:52] <LosGuy> have you run aspichk.exe ?
[12 Jan/18:52] <skully> Losguy.....what is wierd is I know how i changed the setting is that i thought i was typing an email but wasnt and whatever buttons i was pressing changed it he he
[12 Jan/18:52] <Europa1> nope
[12 Jan/18:53] <LosGuy> search at yahooo for that Europa1
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[12 Jan/18:53] <Europa1> getting it from yahoo
[12 Jan/18:54] <Europa1> err, adaptec..
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[12 Jan/18:54] <LosGuy> jet350 also use SFC and replace wsock32.dll and you might try moving the contents of your cookies folder (if corrupt can cause this problem)
[12 Jan/18:54] <Europa1> LosGuy: says everything is fine
[12 Jan/18:55] <Europa1> msconfig is a neat command
[12 Jan/18:55] ! ShaggyDoo is known as ScoobyDoo
[12 Jan/18:56] <LosGuy> Europa1 IDE or scsi?
[12 Jan/18:56] <Europa1> scsi
[12 Jan/18:56] <Europa1> it worked in win95
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[12 Jan/18:56] <LosGuy> odd ... 
[12 Jan/18:57] <LosGuy> might look for a firmware update ..  a software update .. make sure you dont have antivirus on during burn etc
[12 Jan/18:57] <Europa1> are there special cdrom burner drivers?  
[12 Jan/18:57] <Europa1> sony has nothing...
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[12 Jan/18:58] <jet350> well los didnt find a 1 win sock related
[12 Jan/18:58] <LosGuy> not for scsi drives usually the software you use will be all you need Europa1 
[12 Jan/18:59] <LosGuy> jet350 did you see my previous re replacing wsock32.dll?
[12 Jan/19:00] <Europa1> gonna uninstall all of my software...
[12 Jan/19:00] <LosGuy> do you get an error on completion of the burn Europa1?
[12 Jan/19:01] <Europa1> I don't get to burn...I put in a blank and the computer looks at it and spits it out
[12 Jan/19:01] <jet350> got it
[12 Jan/19:01] ! Vulcan_ is known as Vulcan
[12 Jan/19:01] <LosGuy> Europa1 are you running your burner software at the time you put the disk in?
[12 Jan/19:01] <Europa1> yep
[12 Jan/19:02] <LosGuy> is IT seeing the burner?
[12 Jan/19:02] <Europa1> yep :)
[12 Jan/19:03] <LosGuy> dunno what to tell ya Europa1.. try deja.com or your cdr's home page
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[12 Jan/19:05] <jet350> brb
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[12 Jan/19:05] <Europa1> just about erased everything on my computer, maybe this will help
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[12 Jan/19:11] <jet350> web site found waiting for reply....
[12 Jan/19:12] <LosGuy> kewl jet
[12 Jan/19:12] <jet350> but not getting a reply
[12 Jan/19:12] <LosGuy> other ISP is not AOL is it?
[12 Jan/19:13] <jet350> nooooo
[12 Jan/19:13] <jet350> earthlink
[12 Jan/19:13] <jet350> not their software as well
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[12 Jan/19:16] <jet350> on the screen it says page cannot be displayed but down at the bottem of IE it says cannot find server
[12 Jan/19:16] <jet350> oops check that ---thats the tool bar
[12 Jan/19:17] <LosGuy> jet try http://www.yahoo.com
[12 Jan/19:17] <jet350> web site found waiting for reply
[12 Jan/19:18] <CJ^> earthlink?
[12 Jan/19:18] <LosGuy> try putting this in the address window 24.31.74.225
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[12 Jan/19:18] <jet350> not this one
[12 Jan/19:18] <jet350> k
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[12 Jan/19:20] <jet350> wweb site found waiting
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[12 Jan/19:21] <LosGuy> jet can you do a tracert ?
[12 Jan/19:21] <jet350> dont know what it is 
[12 Jan/19:22] <CJ^> DOS prompt
[12 Jan/19:22] <CJ^> tracert <ip addy>
[12 Jan/19:22] <LosGuy> go to a dos prompt and type 'tracert library.airnews.net'
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[12 Jan/19:23] <jet350> lets see
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[12 Jan/19:24] <oriam> hello
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[12 Jan/19:24] <oriam> how can i de-activate plus or all the themes ?
[12 Jan/19:25] <CJ^> remove the themes
[12 Jan/19:25] <jet350> request timed out  8 times
[12 Jan/19:26] <jet350> so far
[12 Jan/19:26] <CJ^> start/settings/control panel/add/remove programs
[12 Jan/19:26] <LosGuy> jet350 your not running a proxy at all are you ?
[12 Jan/19:26] <CJ^> windows setup tab
[12 Jan/19:26] <jet350> no
[12 Jan/19:26] <CJ^> uncheck Themes
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[12 Jan/19:27] <jet350> wooo the 14 time it made it!!!!!
[12 Jan/19:27] <oriam> CJ^ thank you
[12 Jan/19:27] <CJ^> jet  thats a heck of a DNS problem...:P
[12 Jan/19:28] <LosGuy> jet350 ...
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[12 Jan/19:28] <LosGuy> that kinda makes it look like it is not your problem
[12 Jan/19:28] <oriam> it was an easy one, but hey, even the tech guys need help some times too  ;)
[12 Jan/19:28] <CJ^> ?
[12 Jan/19:28] <CJ^> yoru a tech guy??
[12 Jan/19:28] <jet350> is that right?
[12 Jan/19:28] <oriam> yep
[12 Jan/19:29] <CJ^> jet  thats an ISP issue  nto yorus.
[12 Jan/19:29] <oriam> just forgot where to go
[12 Jan/19:29] <LosGuy> jet350 can you get to your ISP's home page?
[12 Jan/19:29] <CJ^> oriam?  HAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAAH
[12 Jan/19:29] <jet350> but for 2 ISP los?
[12 Jan/19:29] <LosGuy> jet350 if it is a backbone problem it could be
[12 Jan/19:29] <CJ^> jet  done the whole.. remove netowkring and re-install it yet???
[12 Jan/19:29] <oriam> i guess i'm fooling to much on Linux these days
[12 Jan/19:29] <jet350> no
[12 Jan/19:30] <oriam> and forgeting about windowz
[12 Jan/19:30] <jet350> networking as in ISP's?
[12 Jan/19:31] <CJ^> all of it jet
[12 Jan/19:31] <CJ^> TCP/IP
[12 Jan/19:31] <CJ^> the whole network settings
[12 Jan/19:31] <jet350> no I have not but I thought that if I could hook I would be ok
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[12 Jan/19:32] <jet350> so that would be the next step?
[12 Jan/19:32] <CJ^> well extreme...
[12 Jan/19:32] <CJ^> remove the modem..
[12 Jan/19:32] <CJ^> delete all network settings...
[12 Jan/19:33] <CJ^> all protocols
[12 Jan/19:33] <CJ^> all adapters
[12 Jan/19:33] <CJ^> reboot...
[12 Jan/19:33] <CJ^> let win find yer modem again..
[12 Jan/19:33] <CJ^> and it should reset the network settings..
[12 Jan/19:34] <jet350> well now that is extreme....
[12 Jan/19:34] <CJ^> all you need in there is TCP/IP
[12 Jan/19:34] <CJ^> Dial Up adapter
[12 Jan/19:35] <jet350> no client for microsoft?
[12 Jan/19:35] <CJ^> dont need to have it..
[12 Jan/19:35] <CJ^> but i run MS Family Login
[12 Jan/19:36] <CJ^> personallly  even with earthlink.. i dont use their setup application to get connected..
[12 Jan/19:36] <CJ^> its asking for trouble...:P
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[12 Jan/19:38] <jet350> well I am going to do as you both have sudjested and see what happens,thanks to you both...bbl
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[12 Jan/19:39] <Rav3n> lo
[12 Jan/19:39] <LosGuy> hey Rav3n
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[12 Jan/19:39] <Rav3n> lo Los
[12 Jan/19:39] <Rav3n> how's things eh?
[12 Jan/19:39] <LosGuy> good how are you?
[12 Jan/19:40] <Rav3n> not bad aside from work
[12 Jan/19:40] * LosGuy cast a vote for ya at the undernet page the other day
[12 Jan/19:40] <Rav3n> thanks <G>
[12 Jan/19:40] <LosGuy> and one for bobskc too (not the good one hehe)
[12 Jan/19:40] <LosGuy> I dont know him though.. 
[12 Jan/19:40] ! ^^me^^ is known as Not^Here
[12 Jan/19:40] <LosGuy> just had to pick someone and he was very (un) popular hehe
[12 Jan/19:41] <LosGuy> and he was the one that prevented this channel from being regged for a long time ... but no grudge :)
[12 Jan/19:41] <LosGuy> what ever caused that was before I was here
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[12 Jan/19:43] <Rav3n> nods
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[12 Jan/19:47] <PHDinTHC> Hey I need Help
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[12 Jan/19:47] <Azmodan> hey Rav3n 
[12 Jan/19:47] <Rav3n> lo Az
[12 Jan/19:48] <Rav3n> wot sort of help ?
[12 Jan/19:48] <PHDinTHC> I need a Newer file of DIRECTCD.exe
[12 Jan/19:49] * Rav3n notes the topic
[12 Jan/19:49] <PHDinTHC> I need The File 
[12 Jan/19:50] <Rav3n> well unless it's publically available on a vendor website we're not going to be able to help
[12 Jan/19:51] <PHDinTHC> WHAT???
[12 Jan/19:51] <Rav3n> Which portion did we not understand ? I'll try to be a bit more clear
[12 Jan/19:51] <LosGuy> hehe 
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[12 Jan/19:51] <LosGuy> no files here PHDinTHC .. 
[12 Jan/19:51] @ mode #WIN98 [+v Cat`Woman] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[12 Jan/19:52] <Rav3n> lo Cat
[12 Jan/19:52] <Cat`Woman> Los
[12 Jan/19:52] <Cat`Woman> I need some help
[12 Jan/19:52] <Cat`Woman> Hey Rav3n how are you?
[12 Jan/19:52] <LosGuy> he Hi cat
[12 Jan/19:52] <PHDinTHC> Last time I got a file from a OP in this Channel
[12 Jan/19:52] <Rav3n> not bad Cat you?
[12 Jan/19:52] <LosGuy> no PHDinTHC 
[12 Jan/19:52] <LosGuy> we dont do files here
[12 Jan/19:52] <Azmodan> PHDinTHC, you did not
[12 Jan/19:52] <LosGuy> see the topic
[12 Jan/19:52] <Rav3n> Perhaps you were on another Network?
[12 Jan/19:52] <Cat`Woman> Doing alright
[12 Jan/19:52] <Cat`Woman> Los...
[12 Jan/19:53] <LosGuy> yeah cat?
[12 Jan/19:53] <Cat`Woman> Have you ever re-installed win98 without doing a format etc...?
[12 Jan/19:53] <LosGuy> yes
[12 Jan/19:53] <Rav3n> I have 
[12 Jan/19:53] <Rav3n> err
[12 Jan/19:53] <Cat`Woman> how bad does it totally screw up your settings?
[12 Jan/19:53] <LosGuy> just puts stuff back on the desktop etc that you had deleted
[12 Jan/19:53] <LosGuy> was not TOO bad 
[12 Jan/19:53] <Cat`Woman> as funny as it may seem, I have never had to
[12 Jan/19:53] <LosGuy> been a while though
[12 Jan/19:54] * Rav3n suggests a setup /nd
[12 Jan/19:54] <Cat`Woman> well, I am doing a repair job for a girl at work... let me tell you whats wrong and you let me know if you think I am doing the right thing
[12 Jan/19:54] <Rav3n> That'll overwrite most/all system files and leave the system registry alone for the most part
[12 Jan/19:54] <Cat`Woman> it will connect to the internet through aol...  
[12 Jan/19:54] <Cat`Woman> cannot get out to www
[12 Jan/19:54] ! CJbbiaf is known as CJ^
[12 Jan/19:54] <Cat`Woman> cannot go to mirc
[12 Jan/19:55] <Cat`Woman> cannot go out through explorer or netscrape even when I use my own dialup account (not aol)
[12 Jan/19:55] <Rav3n> I can suggest a couple things?
[12 Jan/19:55] <Cat`Woman> I am thinking that when this idiot had happy 99
[12 Jan/19:55] * Rav3n is dealing with alot of these issues at work
[12 Jan/19:55] <Cat`Woman> he said he deleted a few things
[12 Jan/19:55] * LosGuy also knows of problems with AOL and dialup
[12 Jan/19:55] <Cat`Woman> and it hasn't worked since
[12 Jan/19:55] <Cat`Woman> sure rav3n...shoot
[12 Jan/19:55] <Deton8R> yeah...aol IS a dialup problem
[12 Jan/19:55] <CJ^> sounds lke a just plain jane  AOL mess up
[12 Jan/19:56] <Deton8R> hehe
[12 Jan/19:56] <Rav3n> ok if we think we've got Happy99 check for the *.ska files 
[12 Jan/19:56] ! Not^Here is known as grunter
[12 Jan/19:56] <Cat`Woman> not just aol... I put my own dialup on there too
[12 Jan/19:56] <Azmodan> proxy settings?
[12 Jan/19:56] <Cat`Woman> no, he had it and got rid of it "his way"
[12 Jan/19:56] <LosGuy> replace wsock32.dll
[12 Jan/19:56] <CJ^>  but AOL does mess with teh system..
[12 Jan/19:56] <Deton8R> wonder if he ever got happy99 off there 
[12 Jan/19:56] <CJ^> but  no wories right now
[12 Jan/19:56] <Rav3n> if they're there delete c:\windows\system\wsock32.dll and wsock32.ska anyway oh and ska.dll ska.exe 
[12 Jan/19:56] <Rav3n> just incase 
[12 Jan/19:57] <Cat`Woman> well, he has norton bloatware running now, guess he learned his lessons
[12 Jan/19:57] <Cat`Woman> ok
[12 Jan/19:57] <Rav3n> then what i'd recommend is this
[12 Jan/19:57] <Cat`Woman> I think it is the winsock
[12 Jan/19:57] <Rav3n> go to Start->settings->control Panel->Network delete everything in there after taking down and settings we might need later with aol that shouldnt be anything
[12 Jan/19:58] <Cat`Woman> well...
[12 Jan/19:58] <Cat`Woman> I already have win98 re-installing
[12 Jan/19:58] <CJ^> on top of itself??
[12 Jan/19:58] <Rav3n> then go to 'Safe mode' and Start->Settings->Control Panel-> Add/Remove->Windows setup->communications and remove DUN 
[12 Jan/19:58] <Rav3n> ergh ok
[12 Jan/19:58] <Cat`Woman> yup
[12 Jan/19:58] <Rav3n> if that doesnt work
[12 Jan/19:58] <CJ^> ack
[12 Jan/19:58] <Rav3n> ...
[12 Jan/19:59] <Cat`Woman> Los,,, I hope your logging this
[12 Jan/19:59] <Rav3n> remove stuff in network and remove dial-up networking
[12 Jan/19:59] <Cat`Woman> CJ... why ack?
[12 Jan/19:59] <Cat`Woman> Det said it would work!  ;)
[12 Jan/19:59] <Rav3n> then Start->Run->regedit
[12 Jan/19:59] <CJ^> cause a re-intall NEVER helps
[12 Jan/19:59] <Rav3n> it does occasionally ;p
[12 Jan/19:59] <CJ^> not on top of itself
[12 Jan/20:00] <Cat`Woman> I suppose this is a good topic for tonight then... 
[12 Jan/20:00] <Cat`Woman> ;)
[12 Jan/20:00] <Cat`Woman> maybe we will all learn something...especially me
[12 Jan/20:00] <Cat`Woman> ok, what do we need to do in regedit (when this install doesn't work)
[12 Jan/20:00] <LosGuy> it wont FIX registry problems..but if the problem is file corruption.. it very well may
[12 Jan/20:00] <Rav3n> then HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\system\currentcontrolset\services
[12 Jan/20:01] <Rav3n> VxD 
[12 Jan/20:01] <Rav3n> and remove winsock and winsock2
[12 Jan/20:01] <Cat`Woman> ok
[12 Jan/20:02] <Rav3n> then remove the winsock and winsock2 keys in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\system\currentcontrolset\services\ 
[12 Jan/20:02] <Rav3n> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\system\currentcontrolset\services\VxD\winsock 
[12 Jan/20:02] <Rav3n> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\system\currentcontrolset\services\VxD\winsock2
[12 Jan/20:03] <Rav3n> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\system\currentcontrolset\services\winsock
[12 Jan/20:03] <Rav3n> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\system\currentcontrolset\services\winsock2
[12 Jan/20:03] <Rav3n> those 4 keys
[12 Jan/20:03] <Rav3n> and then reinstall DUN
[12 Jan/20:03] <Rav3n> then run aol and it'll rebuild the settings for that
[12 Jan/20:03] <CJ^> AOL and Time warner...
[12 Jan/20:03] <Rav3n> there is one more key that can cause problems but msot of the time those 4 will fix it
[12 Jan/20:03] <Cat`Woman> will I have to re-install aolame?
[12 Jan/20:03] <CJ^> <<< Opens up TIME magazine  "You have Mail!"
[12 Jan/20:04] <Cat`Woman> hhahahahah
[12 Jan/20:04] <Rav3n> Cat: nope just doulbe-click on the icon on the desktop it'll rebuild the adapters
[12 Jan/20:04] <LosGuy> haha CJ^
[12 Jan/20:04] <Cat`Woman> Rav3n, thanks mucho
[12 Jan/20:04] <Rav3n> sure thing Cat =)
[12 Jan/20:04] <Cat`Woman> I will sit back and wait for the pain... (end of instal)
[12 Jan/20:04] <Cat`Woman> which bot is doing the auto voice thingy?
[12 Jan/20:05] <Cat`Woman> Los...
[12 Jan/20:05] <LosGuy> vulcan I belive
[12 Jan/20:05] <Rav3n> the other key is HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\system\currentcontrolset\services\RemoteAccess\Authentication\SMM_files
[12 Jan/20:05] <Rav3n> ;)
[12 Jan/20:06] * Rav3n just found out about the SMM_Files key yesterday 
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[12 Jan/20:10] <Rav3n> re?
[12 Jan/20:10] <Rav3n> bah ive got entirely too much stress in my life right now
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[12 Jan/20:15] <Cat`Woman> whats wrong rav?
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[12 Jan/20:15] <Azmodan> hotone die
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[12 Jan/20:16] <LosGuy> heh my fav of those quits
[12 Jan/20:16] @ mode #WIN98 [+v Cat`Woman] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[12 Jan/20:16] <LosGuy> wb cat
[12 Jan/20:16] <Cat`Woman> `op
[12 Jan/20:16] @ mode #WIN98 [+o Cat`Woman] by Zeus__!~Hashish@master.of.the.bongfu.way.com
[12 Jan/20:16] <Azmodan> yeppers
[12 Jan/20:16] <Cat`Woman> vulcan chat
[12 Jan/20:16] <Azmodan> I thought I banned taht bot
[12 Jan/20:16] <Cat`Woman> anyone have any objections to me turning the annoying auto +v off?
[12 Jan/20:16] <Rav3n> ?
[12 Jan/20:17] <Rav3n> just too much work and too few people to do it
[12 Jan/20:17] <Azmodan> `ban #win98 the-bot!*@*
[12 Jan/20:17] @ mode #WIN98 [+b the-bot!*@*] by Athena!itsnotme@ppp35.US-GOVT.org
[12 Jan/20:17] <Azmodan> `kick The-Bot 
[12 Jan/20:17] < The-Bot!TheBot@ip15-250.boaaip1.adsl.tele.dk was kicked off #WIN98 by Athena!itsnotme@ppp35.US-GOVT.org (Athena)
[12 Jan/20:17] <LosGuy> I was just checking on him
[12 Jan/20:17] <Cat`Woman> ack, that sounds a little too much like my life Rav3n... just take it one minute at a time... (day is way too long)
[12 Jan/20:17] <LosGuy> dumb name if you want to idle in a channel 
[12 Jan/20:18] <Cat`Woman> i will take that as a no
[12 Jan/20:18] <Azmodan> multi-monitor only works if pci card is initialised first
[12 Jan/20:18] <Azmodan> that bites
[12 Jan/20:19] <LosGuy> go for it cat
[12 Jan/20:19] <LosGuy> not sure if you can though
[12 Jan/20:19] [LosGuy> Azmodan that is a bios setting I belive
[12 Jan/20:19] <Azmodan> yeah, thats right, it only works if I set the pci to init first, I want the agp as main card
[12 Jan/20:19] <Rav3n> http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp?vartarget=msdn
[12 Jan/20:20] <Rav3n> that looks potentially extreemely useful
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[12 Jan/20:20] <Reds|{in>  Hi! if you want to get some money just for surf on the net you can go here: https://www.alladvantage.com/joinsecure.asp?refid=HXS900 its for real go now if you want to be rich :o) i get 225 per month just like that :o)
[12 Jan/20:20] @ mode #WIN98 [+v Reds|{in] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[12 Jan/20:20] <Reds|{in>  Hi! if you want to get some money just for surf on the net you can go here: https://www.alladvantage.com/joinsecure.asp?refid=HXS900 its for real go now if you want to be rich :o) i get 225 per month just like that :o)
[12 Jan/20:20] <Reds|{in>  Hi! if you want to get some money just for surf on the net you can go here: https://www.alladvantage.com/joinsecure.asp?refid=HXS900 its for real go now if you want to be rich :o) i get 225 per month just like that :o)
[12 Jan/20:20] <Rav3n> err
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[12 Jan/20:20] <LosGuy> grrr
[12 Jan/20:21] <LosGuy> was looing at that link you left Rav3n hehe
[12 Jan/20:22] <Azmodan> `kb reds|{in
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[12 Jan/20:22] <Azmodan> a ban is just as good now
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[12 Jan/20:23] ! Kat|fone is known as Katrina
[12 Jan/20:23] <Stride> Just curious, what's a good, preferrably free, compiler for doing windows programmerS?
[12 Jan/20:23] <Stride> -ers
[12 Jan/20:23] <Stride> programs, dangit :P
[12 Jan/20:23] <Azmodan> stride, lcc-win32
[12 Jan/20:23] <Azmodan> and no I can't remember the url
[12 Jan/20:24] ! Angiee is known as angieboos
[12 Jan/20:24] <Stride> K, I'm used to c++, but I need to write a couple programs for windows :(
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[12 Jan/20:25] <Azmodan> Stride, that is a c compiler
[12 Jan/20:25] <Azmodan> quake 3 no longer runs
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[12 Jan/20:25] <meri> hi
[12 Jan/20:25] <Azmodan> it tries to use the pci card
[12 Jan/20:25] @ mode #WIN98 [+v meri] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[12 Jan/20:25] <meri> can i ask a question
[12 Jan/20:26] <LosGuy> sure meri
[12 Jan/20:26] <meri> ok
[12 Jan/20:26] <meri> thanks
[12 Jan/20:26] <meri> in systems/divice manager
[12 Jan/20:26] <meri> i have 2 yelloy !
[12 Jan/20:26] <meri> can correctthe problem
[12 Jan/20:27] <meri> one is the PCI bus master controll for primary and secondary
[12 Jan/20:27] <LosGuy> what does it say is causing the problem meri? and what are the devices?
[12 Jan/20:27] <meri> i cant find a problem
[12 Jan/20:28] <meri> when it tell em about the drivers
[12 Jan/20:28] <Azmodan> Unreal Tournament finds the correct device
[12 Jan/20:29] <LosGuy> click on them it should tell you a bit about the problem meri
[12 Jan/20:29] <meri> click were
[12 Jan/20:29] <LosGuy> on the device that has the !
[12 Jan/20:29] <LosGuy> then choose properties
[12 Jan/20:30] ! symetrix is known as symsleep
[12 Jan/20:30] <meri> ok
[12 Jan/20:30] <Stride> Can c/c++ even do windows programs?
[12 Jan/20:31] <LosGuy> yes Stride
[12 Jan/20:31] <Stride> oh
[12 Jan/20:31] <Stride> didn't know that, boy I feel dumb :P
[12 Jan/20:31] <meri> its tell me its not working properly or not the drivers install
[12 Jan/20:31] <meri> so i tryed to reinstall
[12 Jan/20:31] <Stride> I've only ever done dos progs :P
[12 Jan/20:31] <meri> tell me i have the best for my device
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[12 Jan/20:33] <Cat`Woman> `op zeus_
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[12 Jan/20:33] <meri> and the same thing for my PCI bus master controll
[12 Jan/20:33] <Cat`Woman> `voice deton8r
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[12 Jan/20:33] <LosGuy> meri what is loading in autoexec.bat and config.sys?
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[12 Jan/20:34] <LosGuy> drivers for these devices would come from your mb manufacturer IF they are needed
[12 Jan/20:34] <Rav3n> ok my head hurts now reading about OLE2 stuff
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[12 Jan/20:34] <LosGuy> hehe
[12 Jan/20:35] <Rav3n> hrm check to see if the drives are in compatibility mode
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[12 Jan/20:36] <Rav3n> probably loading a 16-bit/realmode driver which has thrown windows into compatability mode for the HD's 
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[12 Jan/20:37] <meri> on the standard flopy disk controller
[12 Jan/20:38] <meri> is tell me the conflick is with the other flopy disk controller
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[12 Jan/20:38] <meri> why would i have to flopy disk controllers
[12 Jan/20:39] <Rav3n> http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q151/9/11.asp?LNG=ENG&SA=ALLKB <-- that may help.. 
[12 Jan/20:40] <Rav3n> floppy controllers ? 
[12 Jan/20:40] <meri> thanks
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[12 Jan/20:41] <Rav3n> well hopefully that'll get them to the right place 
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[12 Jan/20:42] <Rav3n> notes that often if windows 9x sees a device wanting to use real-mode drivers it creates/enables a 'NOIDE' key in the Registry so even if you rename autoexec.bat and config.sys and nuke the controllers in safe mode it still goes back into compat mode
[12 Jan/20:42] * Rav3n talks to himself for awhile
[12 Jan/20:42] <Rav3n> I have one of those optical mice they're kinda nifty
[12 Jan/20:42] <LosGuy> hehe g
[12 Jan/20:42] <LosGuy> good one
[12 Jan/20:43] <LosGuy> oh I almost picked one up the other day
[12 Jan/20:43] <Azmodan> why would a display card driver not work in multi monitor mode as secondary when it works fine in primary?
[12 Jan/20:43] <LosGuy> costco had them for 49 bux I think (Frys had htem on sale for 69)
[12 Jan/20:44] <LosGuy> az read display.txt
[12 Jan/20:44] <LosGuy> on your system
[12 Jan/20:44] <Azmodan> k
[12 Jan/20:44] <CJ^> :P
[12 Jan/20:45] <CJ^> bios decides which is goign to be which
[12 Jan/20:45] <Azmodan> CJ read back
[12 Jan/20:45] <Azmodan> CJ, and no I don't think I'm that thick
[12 Jan/20:45] <CJ^> well.....
[12 Jan/20:45] <Rav3n> if one is an agp and the other a pci ti depends on which gets enumerated first. I cant remember the specifics but if the wrong one gets enumerated first then we dont get multimon
[12 Jan/20:46] <CJ^> :P
[12 Jan/20:46] <CJ^> right  like i said  the BIOS decides...
[12 Jan/20:46] <Azmodan> CJ, I've already said that
[12 Jan/20:46] <Azmodan> sheesh
[12 Jan/20:46] <CJ^> :P
[12 Jan/20:46] <LosGuy> hehe
[12 Jan/20:47] <Rav3n> some MB's let you change that in the bios tho ;p
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[12 Jan/20:55] <Azmodan> doh
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[12 Jan/21:00] <LosGuy> `op Proteus Zeus_
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[12 Jan/21:27] <Cat`Woman> ha!
[12 Jan/21:27] <Cat`Woman> I was successful
[12 Jan/21:27] <Cat`Woman> win98 re-install totally did the trick
[12 Jan/21:27] <Cat`Woman> and not a visual setting was changed
[12 Jan/21:28] <Cat`Woman> `voice los-guy
[12 Jan/21:28] @ mode #WIN98 [+v Los-Guy] by Zeus_!~Amsterdam@master.of.the.bongfu.way.com
[12 Jan/21:28] <Los-Guy> thx cat
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[12 Jan/21:28] <Cat`Woman> yw
[12 Jan/21:28] <Los-Guy> excellent
[12 Jan/21:28] <Cat`Woman> so are ya proud of me or what???
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[12 Jan/21:28] <Los-Guy> sure am
[12 Jan/21:29] <Rav3n> keen 
[12 Jan/21:29] <Cat`Woman> only had about 6 blue screens and 4 illeagal operations!  ;)
[12 Jan/21:29] <Cat`Woman> thanks for your help guys
[12 Jan/21:30] <Cat`Woman> I have another question to pose to you win98 gods
[12 Jan/21:30] <Rav3n> sure?
[12 Jan/21:30] <Cat`Woman> a friend of mine, which det and I are determined to turn in to an absolute geek like us...
[12 Jan/21:30] <Cat`Woman> is building his first computer
[12 Jan/21:31] <Cat`Woman> everything is done, except can't get a boot disk to recognize his cd rom drive
[12 Jan/21:31] <Cat`Woman> My brain is exhausted
[12 Jan/21:31] + Azmodan waves nite to all
[12 Jan/21:32] <Rav3n> Is the CD-ROm connected via a sound card ide adapter ?
[12 Jan/21:32] <Rav3n> nite Az 
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[13 Jan/17:34] <madhadder> is there anywhere I can go to find the manufactorer of my modem?
[13 Jan/17:34] <madhadder> manufacture even
[13 Jan/17:34] <LosGuy> uh you can do a FCC search at windrivers.com
[13 Jan/17:35] <madhadder> nah, I mean on my computer, like will it tell me what company?
[13 Jan/17:35] <madhadder> manual doesn't even say who it is copywrited to
[13 Jan/17:36] <LosGuy> control panel may have it under modems  or under control panel / sysetem
[13 Jan/17:36] <LosGuy> but that is usually from the drivers
[13 Jan/17:36] <Big`Ed> sometimes you can get 'more info'
[13 Jan/17:36] <Big`Ed> form the advanced modem 
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[13 Jan/17:37] <madhadder> I was going to say, no modems icon under control panel
[13 Jan/17:37] <Big`Ed> then your modem is NOT detected?
[13 Jan/17:37] <Big`Ed> or you have used tweakui or others to alter system properties
[13 Jan/17:38] <madhadder> must be detected I am connected with it
[13 Jan/17:38] <madhadder> nope
[13 Jan/17:38] <Big`Ed> you go to control panel
[13 Jan/17:38] <Big`Ed> and you do NOT have a modem icon
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[13 Jan/17:39] <madhadder> ok, I closed it and reopened it and now I do
[13 Jan/17:39] <madhadder> glitch?
[13 Jan/17:39] <Big`Ed> on that tab - when off-line
[13 Jan/17:39] <Big`Ed> you go to diagnostics
[13 Jan/17:39] <Big`Ed> select the modem
[13 Jan/17:39] ! bad^fish is known as fire^fish
[13 Jan/17:39] <Big`Ed> then click moreinfo
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[13 Jan/17:39] <Big`Ed> in that box
[13 Jan/17:39] <Big`Ed> there will be some code info
[13 Jan/17:39] @ mode #WIN98 [+v |mrgone|] by Vulcan_!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[13 Jan/17:40] <Big`Ed> www.56k.com 
[13 Jan/17:40] <Big`Ed> has links to decifer modem info
[13 Jan/17:40] <madhadder> ok, thanks
[13 Jan/17:40] <|mrgone|> crap
[13 Jan/17:40] * madhadder will check that out when he gets off tonight
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[13 Jan/17:40] <Big`Ed> okies
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[13 Jan/18:01] <jet> Los can that be related to my problems lastnight?
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[13 Jan/18:04] <terl> I've got a question for someone who really knows win98...
[13 Jan/18:05] <Big`Ed> like?
[13 Jan/18:05] * LosGuy watches terl demonstrate how NOT to get helped
[13 Jan/18:06] <terl> I'll say it anyway...
[13 Jan/18:06] <Big`Ed> like?
[13 Jan/18:06] <jet> Los?
[13 Jan/18:06] <LosGuy> jet never head of it
[13 Jan/18:06] <wez> terl was the bad guy in Battlefield Earth....
[13 Jan/18:06] <LosGuy> yeah
[13 Jan/18:06] <jet> thanks
[13 Jan/18:06] <terl> wez yes he was
[13 Jan/18:06] <LosGuy> excellent book
[13 Jan/18:07] <jet> I was just wondering if that might be related to my problems lasnight
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[13 Jan/18:08] <LosGuy> yes having a trojan could do that I guess if it was broken
[13 Jan/18:08] @ mode #WIN98 [+v MavericK] by Vulcan_!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[13 Jan/18:08] <MavericK> sup all!
[13 Jan/18:08] * Big`Ed wonders what terl's problem was all about anyways?
[13 Jan/18:08] <LosGuy> hi MavericK
[13 Jan/18:08] <MavericK> Wingate is use for what ??? 
[13 Jan/18:08] <jet> thanks its still here I formatted just one drive not them both
[13 Jan/18:09] <LosGuy> connecting more thatn on computer to the internet via a single connection MavericK
[13 Jan/18:09] <terl> I'm trying to install new fonts in win98, but i whan i go in parameters, fonts, i don't have "install a new font" as a choise and when i just copy my files in the font folder in windows, it do not appears as a choice in Words or any others programs... what can i do to install my fonts ?
[13 Jan/18:09] <MavericK> can it be use as a firewall ?
[13 Jan/18:10] <LosGuy> MavericK I have never used it..but I belive so.
[13 Jan/18:10] <MavericK> ok .. but . what is the best progrma to use for a firewall ???
[13 Jan/18:10] * LosGuy just dumps them in the fonts folder in windows dir terl
[13 Jan/18:11] <LosGuy> just a firewall?
[13 Jan/18:11] <LosGuy> conseal ... signal9.com
[13 Jan/18:11] <MavericK> yes
[13 Jan/18:11] <Big`Ed> terl - control panel - fonts
[13 Jan/18:11] <terl> losguy: as i said it dont work
[13 Jan/18:11] <Big`Ed> terl - file - add new fonts
[13 Jan/18:11] <MavericK> ok .. thank you  losguy !!
[13 Jan/18:11] <Big`Ed> "install new fonts"
[13 Jan/18:12] <terl> Big'Ed: i don't have that choice in - file - ??? how's that ?
[13 Jan/18:12] <LosGuy> terl http://www.ozemail.com.au/~daylott/faq.htm
[13 Jan/18:12] <Big`Ed> you are under - control panel - fonts?
[13 Jan/18:12] <Big`Ed> also - the folder is c:\windows\fonts -NOT\ c:\windows
[13 Jan/18:13] <Big`Ed> terl - you are in control panel - FONTS?
[13 Jan/18:13] <terl> Big Ed: yeah....
[13 Jan/18:13] <Big`Ed> and the third item under FILE says?
[13 Jan/18:13] <LosGuy> np MavericK
[13 Jan/18:14] ! Marggggie is known as Marg
[13 Jan/18:14] <Big`Ed> terl - and the third item under FILE says?
[13 Jan/18:15] <terl> big ed: it says - delete - ???
[13 Jan/18:15] <Big`Ed> you are in windows  98?
[13 Jan/18:16] <Big`Ed> cuz - you do NOT have the FONT menu open, that is the "explorer" menu
[13 Jan/18:16] <terl> yeay
[13 Jan/18:16] <Big`Ed> what does it say in the top left corner next to the picture of a file folder?
[13 Jan/18:16] <Big`Ed> very top - bar
[13 Jan/18:16] <terl> it says the same thing, but i assure you i'm in the font menu
[13 Jan/18:17] <Big`Ed> it says WHAT?
[13 Jan/18:17] <terl> c:\windows\fonts
[13 Jan/18:17] <Big`Ed> ON THE VERY TOP line of the MENY BOX?
[13 Jan/18:17] <Big`Ed> MENU box
[13 Jan/18:17] <Big`Ed> ABOVE the word FILE
[13 Jan/18:18] <Big`Ed> hello?
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[13 Jan/18:19] <terl> yeah, i was checking...
[13 Jan/18:19] <terl> that's what it says...
[13 Jan/18:19] <terl> c:\windows\fonts
[13 Jan/18:19] <terl> ???
[13 Jan/18:19] <Big`Ed> why does it take me over 4 minutes to ask you WHAT it says on a box you have right in front of you on the VERY TOP line.
[13 Jan/18:19] <terl> is that bad or what ?
[13 Jan/18:19] <MavericK> and .. What "BulletProof" is use for ???
[13 Jan/18:19] <Big`Ed> you are NOT in the fonts program
[13 Jan/18:19] <nihon> where can i find more information on having windows98 with one pc and two monitors showing same desktop?
[13 Jan/18:19] <jet> Los can you tell me where to go to find out about that trojan?
[13 Jan/18:20] <Big`Ed> display.txt in your windowscd
[13 Jan/18:20] < SignOff: mrgone!~Webmaster@ts1-125.brg.tallships.ca (im a leech that needs to be bled)
[13 Jan/18:20] <terl> ok.... if you say so....
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[13 Jan/18:20] <terl> windowscd ?
[13 Jan/18:20] <Big`Ed> terl - is this a NEW PC, home built? what?
[13 Jan/18:20] @ mode #WIN98 [+v mrgone] by Vulcan_!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[13 Jan/18:20] <LosGuy> jet I have never heard of that trojan...what told you that you had it?
[13 Jan/18:20] <terl> big ed: yeah, pretty new
[13 Jan/18:20] <jet> avp
[13 Jan/18:21] <Big`Ed> terl - try this
[13 Jan/18:21] <MavericK> and .. What "BulletProof" is use for ???
[13 Jan/18:21] <terl> it's a thinkpad actually
[13 Jan/18:21] <wez> Bulletproof is for FTP
[13 Jan/18:21] <Big`Ed> terl - close all open boxes besides your MIRC
[13 Jan/18:21] <Big`Ed> IRC client
[13 Jan/18:21] <wez> File Transfer Protocol
[13 Jan/18:21] <Big`Ed> terl
[13 Jan/18:21] <Big`Ed> then go to start, run
[13 Jan/18:21] <terl> ok
[13 Jan/18:21] <jet> its listed but dont give info on it
[13 Jan/18:21] <Big`Ed> type in this:   FONTS
[13 Jan/18:21] <Big`Ed> and click OK
[13 Jan/18:21] <MavericK> ok thanks ! 
[13 Jan/18:22] <terl> i'm getting the same thing ....
[13 Jan/18:22] ! PJ_Food is known as PeJay
[13 Jan/18:22] <Big`Ed> terl - under this box, you should have gotton the box on the top that ONLY says the word FONTS
[13 Jan/18:23] <Big`Ed> it should have brought up a list of all installed fonts
[13 Jan/18:23] <terl> nah
[13 Jan/18:23] <Big`Ed> under the word file - is OPEN, PRINT, INSTALL
[13 Jan/18:23] <terl> i have the list, but it's like i'm the explorer
[13 Jan/18:23] <Big`Ed> (and more)
[13 Jan/18:23] <terl> i have the same menu
[13 Jan/18:23] <Big`Ed> most boxes look like explorer - but are not
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[13 Jan/18:24] <Big`Ed> for some reason your system is running explorer
[13 Jan/18:24] <Big`Ed> you should also see icons
[13 Jan/18:24] <terl> i've got icons
[13 Jan/18:24] <Big`Ed> for large, list, similarity
[13 Jan/18:24] * Athena thinks that terl has a few too many saucepans of kerbango
[13 Jan/18:24] <terl> oh..
[13 Jan/18:24] <terl> not those icons...
[13 Jan/18:25] <Big`Ed> under VIEW should be a choice for "Hide variations"
[13 Jan/18:25] <terl> i thing i found somthing on you oege losguy....
[13 Jan/18:25] <Big`Ed> terl - if you do NOT have these things
[13 Jan/18:25] <Big`Ed> your system is not standard
[13 Jan/18:25] <Big`Ed> and may have been messed with
[13 Jan/18:25] <terl> that is what i think....
[13 Jan/18:25] <Big`Ed> either by you, someone else, or by the company that sold it to you
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[13 Jan/18:26] <TNRaven> Can't get my My documents folder to reappear.. any other suggestions besides using tweakui?
[13 Jan/18:26] * Big`Ed is out of ideas - short of a reload
[13 Jan/18:26] * Big`Ed has to go
[13 Jan/18:26] <Big`Ed> nite all
[13 Jan/18:26] <TNRaven> nite ed
[13 Jan/18:26] <jet> thanks Ed
[13 Jan/18:27] < SignOff: Big`Ed!BigEd@01-058.009.popsite.net (<<ÐêtóÑ8®>> v4.01 Digital Damnation Edition.)
[13 Jan/18:27] <terl> i'm trying somthing and i'll report back...
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[13 Jan/18:27] <wez> im surprized he isnt using AOl
[13 Jan/18:28] <wez> Doh!
[13 Jan/18:28] <MavericK> signal9.com is down !
[13 Jan/18:29] <CJ^> hacked??/
[13 Jan/18:29] <CJ^> hmmm
[13 Jan/18:29] <CJ^> heh
[13 Jan/18:29] <MavericK> dunno
[13 Jan/18:30] <TNRaven> No ideas, huh?
[13 Jan/18:30] <MavericK> can find the page
[13 Jan/18:30] <MavericK> cant
[13 Jan/18:30] <MavericK> any other site 'bout firewall ?
[13 Jan/18:30] <jet> must be up I'm there now
[13 Jan/18:31] <CJ^> http://www.signal9.com/  <<< yeap so am i
[13 Jan/18:31] <MavericK> huh?
[13 Jan/18:31] <LosGuy> jet I cant get to the viursu info page on avp.com
[13 Jan/18:31] <jet> nor can I....grrrrrr
[13 Jan/18:32] * LosGuy tries something else
[13 Jan/18:32] <MavericK> that's why I like my 56k modem !!
[13 Jan/18:32] <jet> I have pc-cillin too but it didnt find it AGAIN
[13 Jan/18:33] <LosGuy> no offense ..but pc-cillin sux
[13 Jan/18:33] <jet> I am finding that out
[13 Jan/18:33] <wez> avp goes down all hte time
[13 Jan/18:33] < SignOff: TNRaven!nevermore@hiper2-d228.stk.cwnet.com (Quoth the Raven "Nevermore")
[13 Jan/18:33] <CJ^> offend...
[13 Jan/18:33] <CJ^> ill offend.. PC-Cillian SUX
[13 Jan/18:33] <CJ^> from waht i here.. so does Panada AV
[13 Jan/18:33] <CJ^> er Panda
[13 Jan/18:34] * LosGuy wants to try sophos av
[13 Jan/18:34] <mrgone> well im goin to bed
[13 Jan/18:34] <wez> hi mrgone, nite mrgone
[13 Jan/18:34] <wez> heh
[13 Jan/18:34] <mrgone> i gota get up for school in 7 hours
[13 Jan/18:35] * jet wants to know how I am getting these?
[13 Jan/18:35] < SignOff: mrgone!~Webmaster@ts1-125.brg.tallships.ca (im a leech that needs to be bled)
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[13 Jan/18:38] <LosGuy> jet I see no mention of that trojan at avp.ru
[13 Jan/18:39] <jet> avp?it was them that found it
[13 Jan/18:40] <LosGuy> yeah gotta love that kinda thing
[13 Jan/18:40] <jet> thanks 
[13 Jan/18:40] <LosGuy> deja.com returns no hits for that either
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[13 Jan/18:41] <jet> geee I wonder what this one will do to me now
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[13 Jan/18:44] ! VANILLAIC is known as JaOco
[13 Jan/18:46] <jet> pc-cillin lists it but no info at that web site as well
[13 Jan/18:46] <LosGuy> hmm
[13 Jan/18:47] ! JaOco is known as MAX2THEMA
[13 Jan/18:48] <LosGuy> nite (need sleep) goood luck in your search
[13 Jan/18:48] < SignOff: LosGuy!~husky21@user-2iniokq.dialup.mindspring.com (adios need sleep)
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[13 Jan/18:48] <jet> thanks all nite
[13 Jan/18:48] <MavericK> ummmm
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[13 Jan/18:49] <MavericK> got problem ... I can access any http site !?!? .. 
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[13 Jan/18:50] <Amorak> Anyone alive in here ?
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[13 Jan/18:55] * terl 's very happy 'cause he found a way to install those dawm fonts...
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[13 Jan/19:04] <informix> anyone know how to change the default boot screen (the windows 98 screen)?
[13 Jan/19:04] <informix> anyone?...
[13 Jan/19:04] <informix> awake?...
[13 Jan/19:04] <CJ^> soem themes can
[13 Jan/19:04] <CJ^> logo.sys,lo9gow.sys
[13 Jan/19:04] <CJ^> er logow.sys
[13 Jan/19:04] <CJ^> you can make yer own as well..
[13 Jan/19:05] <informix> its not the thethank you... and i replace that with a bitmap and name it logow.sys?...
[13 Jan/19:05] <CJ^> a bitmap of a certain size  yes
[13 Jan/19:05] <informix> thankx, gonna try it now...
[13 Jan/19:05] <CJ^> http://www.geocities.com/~budallen/   <<
[13 Jan/19:06] <CJ^> look there for logo.sys
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[13 Jan/19:08] <meri^> hi
[13 Jan/19:08] @ mode #WIN98 [+v meri^] by Vulcan_!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[13 Jan/19:08] <meri^> again
[13 Jan/19:08] <CJ^> again?
[13 Jan/19:08] <meri^> can someone please helpe me and share there knowledge
[13 Jan/19:09] <CJ^> `op
[13 Jan/19:09] @ mode #WIN98 [+o CJ^] by Athena!itsnotme@ppp35.US-GOVT.org
[13 Jan/19:09] <CJ^> meri.. with what?
[13 Jan/19:09] <meri^> sound wont work
[13 Jan/19:09] <CJ^> ok....
[13 Jan/19:09] <meri^> and found this in the computer
[13 Jan/19:09] <CJ^> is the sound card installed?
[13 Jan/19:10] <CJ^> found what??
[13 Jan/19:10] <meri^> no config manager/preform config manualy using setupsa.sax sound system not found on config manager
[13 Jan/19:10] ! symie is known as symZzZzzZ
[13 Jan/19:10] <CJ^> ok
[13 Jan/19:10] <CJ^> what sound card though??
[13 Jan/19:11] <CJ^> what brand or make or model?
[13 Jan/19:11] <meri^> genis
[13 Jan/19:11] <Rav3n> evening
[13 Jan/19:11] <CJ^> genis? hmmm
[13 Jan/19:11] <meri^> but it yamaha drivers
[13 Jan/19:11] <CJ^> then its a yamaha OPL chipset
[13 Jan/19:11] <meri^> that win instakked
[13 Jan/19:12] <CJ^> well dont you have the sound card drivers disk??
[13 Jan/19:12] <meri^> i dont think so
[13 Jan/19:12] <meri^> but windows did it for me
[13 Jan/19:12] <CJ^> well..
[13 Jan/19:12] ! desire1 is known as megans
[13 Jan/19:12] <CJ^> getting the RIGHT drivers may help you
[13 Jan/19:13] <meri^> but it no in the confg system
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[13 Jan/19:14] <CJ^> then you get the right drivers for the card...
[13 Jan/19:14] <CJ^> from the maker
[13 Jan/19:14] <CJ^> and you said Genius   right?
[13 Jan/19:14] <meri^> ya
[13 Jan/19:16] <CJ^> ok
[13 Jan/19:16] <CJ^> do you knwo which model of Genius???
[13 Jan/19:18] <CJ^> SM3DX?
[13 Jan/19:18] <meri^> there are only a bar code and fcc id#
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[13 Jan/19:18] <Candyice> hey
[13 Jan/19:18] @ mode #WIN98 [+v Candyice] by Vulcan_!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[13 Jan/19:18] <Candyice> any1 alive in here?
[13 Jan/19:18] <CJ^> ok  what chipset does it show?
[13 Jan/19:18] <meri^> and this number on it A151-A00
[13 Jan/19:19] <CJ^> yes Candyice
[13 Jan/19:19] <Candyice> i was wondering... ive got a scanner and i want to scan a document but i want to cut a part of the document to paste into another
[13 Jan/19:19] <Candyice> what program is the best for this purpose?
[13 Jan/19:20] <CJ^> Xerox
[13 Jan/19:20] <CJ^> they have a good OCR scan software package
[13 Jan/19:20] <Candyice> is there a good shareware prog i could quickly download?
[13 Jan/19:21] ! Azmodan- is known as Azmodan2
[13 Jan/19:21] <CJ^> download.com maybe
[13 Jan/19:21] <Candyice> yeah im checking there
[13 Jan/19:21] <Candyice> what do u think i should look under though?
[13 Jan/19:21] <CJ^> try OCR
[13 Jan/19:21] <CJ^> in search
[13 Jan/19:22] <Candyice> ok thanks for your help
[13 Jan/19:22] <CJ^> np
[13 Jan/19:22] <CJ^> meri.... hello you still there??/
[13 Jan/19:22] <Candyice> ill cya l8r
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[13 Jan/19:25] <CJ^> http://www.yamahayst.com/pcaudio/download/driver/sax/95v2343.exe   << meri try those drivers 
[13 Jan/19:25] < SignOff: CJ^!~skippy@sdn-ar-006watacoP138.dialsprint.net (<<ÐêtóÑ8®>>v3.0 Internet terrorism at its finest.)
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[13 Jan/19:30] <meri^> sorry cj
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[13 Jan/19:30] <meri^> yes i am
[13 Jan/19:31] <meri^> was looking at the chip
[13 Jan/19:31] <meri^> chip is ymf719E-S
[13 Jan/19:31] <Azmodan> yamaha?
[13 Jan/19:31] <Azmodan> doh
[13 Jan/19:31] <Azmodan> hehehe
[13 Jan/19:32] <informix> yo... that didn't work... i reinstalled my win98 and it doesn't have the Plus! logo... i know this is a minor thing but does anyone know how i can accomplish this?... plus is installed so i know the correct file is on the computer somewhere... anyone?...
[13 Jan/19:33] <informix> nobody knows how to do this do they?...
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[13 Jan/19:40] <meri^> tell cj thanks for trying to help me whaen you see him/her
[13 Jan/19:40] <meri^> bye and thanks
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[13 Jan/19:55] <h8cap> i know this is a windows channel but i was wondering how do you get ip addresses here on mirc
[13 Jan/19:55] <h8cap> ?
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[13 Jan/22:55] <balls^> hi there, doees anyone know if there is a utility out there that lets you share net connections with 2 pc's via laplink cable?
[13 Jan/22:56] @ mode #WIN98 [+v balls^] by Vulcan_!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
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[13 Jan/23:13] <Innocenti> # Appears as TIKI.
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[13 Jan/23:14] <`Remy> hello
[13 Jan/23:14] @ mode #WIN98 [+v `Remy] by Vulcan_!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[13 Jan/23:14] <`Remy> which one is faster amdk6 3d now or pentium III 400?
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[13 Jan/23:18] <balls^> both of them
[13 Jan/23:18] <`Remy> actually what the different?
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[14 Jan/00:12] (Az|Sleep) -op Vulcan__ Zeus_
[14 Jan/00:12] @ mode #WIN98 [+oo Vulcan__ Zeus_] by Azmodan!biged98@chat.eskimo.com
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[14 Jan/17:50] <Patty> yes, the monitor lights up ok
[14 Jan/17:50] @ mode #win98 [+v Azmodan`] by Vulcan__!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[14 Jan/17:51] <Patty> well, no not really....but i do have the motherboard manual here with me 
[14 Jan/17:51] <Patty> I am currently on the same computer that is giving me problems
[14 Jan/17:51] <LosGuy> that should tell you the key to hold while rebooting to enter setup (bios)
[14 Jan/17:51] ! Azmodan is known as Mandy
[14 Jan/17:51] <cwoods> ... boot sequence in bios set to C only?
[14 Jan/17:51] ! Azmodan` is known as Azmodan
[14 Jan/17:52] <Patty> don't know....I don't think so....
[14 Jan/17:52] * Cat`Woman missed the problem completly
[14 Jan/17:52] <cwoods> cat, can't boot from a bootable floopy
[14 Jan/17:52] <LosGuy> cat she is just booting straight to win98 ... she sees only a black screen untill then
[14 Jan/17:52] <LosGuy> right Patty?
[14 Jan/17:52] <cwoods> oops, guess i missed the problem
[14 Jan/17:52] <Cat`Woman> Los..ok
[14 Jan/17:53] <Cat`Woman> cwoods...I was thinking the same thing but she said no
[14 Jan/17:53] <LosGuy> no cwoods..that is only part of the problem
[14 Jan/17:53] <LosGuy> the main part is that she cant boot from a floppy
[14 Jan/17:53] <Cat`Woman> Los..that could be a normal thing for the brand of computer
[14 Jan/17:53] * LosGuy doesnt know..never seen one like that
[14 Jan/17:53] <Cat`Woman> hp's go from a blue screen steight to a win98 screen
[14 Jan/17:53] <Cat`Woman> acers do the same thing
[14 Jan/17:53] <LosGuy> ahh
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[14 Jan/17:54] <Cat`Woman> she needs to play with the keyboard ie: f1 f2 cntl del until she finds the way to go to bios and check stuff
[14 Jan/17:54] <cwoods> yup
[14 Jan/17:54] <Cat`Woman> Then make sure the floppy is good, them darn things are so unreliable
[14 Jan/17:55] < SignOff: Patty!unknown@216.209.250.93 (Ping timeout for Patty[216.209.250.93])
[14 Jan/17:55] <cwoods> yup yup
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[14 Jan/17:55] <Cat`Woman> great time for her to ping out
[14 Jan/17:56] <Cat`Woman> `op
[14 Jan/17:57] <CJ^> `op
[14 Jan/17:57] <cwoods> `op
[14 Jan/17:57] @ mode #win98 [+o CJ^] by Zeus!pegasys@tigerrose.grateful.org
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[14 Jan/17:57] <Cat`Woman> `op
[14 Jan/17:57] @ mode #win98 [+o Cat`Woman] by Vulcan__!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[14 Jan/17:57] <cwoods> lol
[14 Jan/17:57] <Cat`Woman> `kick cwoods Don't even think about it
[14 Jan/17:57] < cwoods!~charlie.w@63.6.230.146 was kicked off #win98 by Zeus!pegasys@tigerrose.grateful.org (Don't even think about it)
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[14 Jan/17:57] <Cat`Woman> `op Azmodan
[14 Jan/17:57] @ mode #win98 [+o Azmodan] by Vulcan__!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[14 Jan/17:57] <Cat`Woman> `op deton8r
[14 Jan/17:57] @ mode #win98 [+o Deton8R] by Zeus_!~Hashish@master.of.the.bongfu.way.com
[14 Jan/17:57] <Cat`Woman> `op losguy
[14 Jan/17:57] @ mode #win98 [+o LosGuy] by Zeus_!~Hashish@master.of.the.bongfu.way.com
[14 Jan/17:58] <Cat`Woman> `op athena
[14 Jan/17:58] @ mode #win98 [+o Athena] by Zeus_!~Hashish@master.of.the.bongfu.way.com
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[14 Jan/17:58] <LosGuy> what was that?
[14 Jan/17:58] @ mode #win98 [-v Los`Guy] by Cat`Woman!~Cat@a24b31n74client225.hawaii.rr.com
[14 Jan/17:58] @ mode #win98 [-v Novell_] by Cat`Woman!~Cat@a24b31n74client225.hawaii.rr.com
[14 Jan/17:58] @ mode #win98 [-v Rav3n] by Cat`Woman!~Cat@a24b31n74client225.hawaii.rr.com
[14 Jan/17:58] @ mode #win98 [-v sektor_] by Cat`Woman!~Cat@a24b31n74client225.hawaii.rr.com
[14 Jan/17:58] @ mode #win98 [+v Los`Guy] by Cat`Woman!~Cat@a24b31n74client225.hawaii.rr.com
[14 Jan/17:58] @ mode #win98 [+v Rav3n] by Cat`Woman!~Cat@a24b31n74client225.hawaii.rr.com
[14 Jan/17:58] <Cat`Woman> ok, I feel better
[14 Jan/17:58] <Cat`Woman> :)
[14 Jan/17:59] <Cat`Woman> `down
[14 Jan/17:59] @ mode #win98 [-o Cat`Woman] by Vulcan__!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[14 Jan/17:59] <Cat`Woman> `voice
[14 Jan/17:59] @ mode #win98 [+v Cat`Woman] by Vulcan__!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[14 Jan/17:59] <LosGuy> what was cwoods doing?
[14 Jan/17:59] <Cat`Woman> "`op" geez, I hate that
[14 Jan/17:59] <LosGuy> oh hahahah
[14 Jan/18:00] <LosGuy> he used to come here alot..then was real abusive one time when he came, I kicked him and didnt see him for a long time after that
[14 Jan/18:01] <Cat`Woman> hrm
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[14 Jan/18:11] * pyrokiwi decides that CJ^ has gone bannanas
[14 Jan/18:13] <CJ^> "Look down... ya may be holding a banana"  <<< found in the mens bathroom...
[14 Jan/18:13] ! pyrokiwi is known as pyro|away
[14 Jan/18:14] <pyro|away> sya
[14 Jan/18:14] <CJ^> where is the new linux g33k?
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[14 Jan/18:19] <Los`Guy> he was on said that he got his voodoo card working right and was installing more drivers
[14 Jan/18:19] ! Zeus_ is known as Zeus
[14 Jan/18:22] <Novell_> Can somebody speak Spanish?
[14 Jan/18:23] <CJ^> not i novell
[14 Jan/18:23] <Azmodan> No habla espaniol
[14 Jan/18:23] <Novell_> I find s software some special I think
[14 Jan/18:23] <Novell_> Nadie habla español aqui
[14 Jan/18:23] ! ^AnG|afk is known as ^Katrina
[14 Jan/18:24] <Novell_> ok.
[14 Jan/18:25] <Los`Guy> 
[14 Jan/18:26] ! SpyderB8 is known as SpyBRB
[14 Jan/18:27] <Novell_> You know the software for call from Internet for example from México to EU
[14 Jan/18:27] <Novell_> how local call
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[14 Jan/18:27] <Novell_> You know the software for call from Internet for example from México to EU how local call
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[14 Jan/18:28] <CJ^> Net-T-Phone
[14 Jan/18:28] <Novell_> whera I found?
[14 Jan/18:28] <Novell_> this is a Programm
[14 Jan/18:29] <CJ^> yes..
[14 Jan/18:29] <CJ^> www.download.com
[14 Jan/18:29] <Novell_> thaks
[14 Jan/18:29] <CJ^> search for telephony
[14 Jan/18:33] < SignOff: Los`Guy!~husky21@user-33qtji6.dialup.mindspring.com (brb)
[14 Jan/18:33] <Novell_> o.k.
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[14 Jan/18:34] @ mode #win98 [+v Los`Guy] by Vulcan__!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[14 Jan/18:34] <Novell_> I need a programm foy any country... I live in Mexico
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[14 Jan/18:35] <Novell_> I need a programm foy any country... I live in Mexico for example
[14 Jan/18:35] <CJ^> Novell.. well  a lot of applications are in english...
[14 Jan/18:35] <CJ^> sorta how it goes..
[14 Jan/18:35] <CJ^> gotta look around locally i guess..
[14 Jan/18:37] ! pyro|away is known as pyrokiwi
[14 Jan/18:37] <pyrokiwi> hiyas
[14 Jan/18:37] <CJ^> FWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14 Jan/18:37] ! PeJay is known as PJ_Telly
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[14 Jan/18:38] <Novell_> because, somebody tell me about a software.... Don't you know?
[14 Jan/18:38] @ mode #win98 [+v shorin] by Vulcan__!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[14 Jan/18:38] <CJ^> Novell.. i dont knwo of many applicatiosn that are in spanish... except Microsoft..
[14 Jan/18:40] <Novell_> o.k.
[14 Jan/18:40] <Novell_> No problem
[14 Jan/18:44] < SignOff: CJ^!skippy@sdn-ar-003watacoP194.dialsprint.net (<<ÐêtóÑ8®>>v3.0 Internet terrorism at its finest.)
[14 Jan/18:44] ! el`loco is known as Gerbs
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[14 Jan/18:45] <edhaskal> hi
[14 Jan/18:45] <Los`Guy> hi
[14 Jan/18:45] <pyrokiwi> hiya
[14 Jan/18:45] <edhaskal> what doew vulcansets mode mean?
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[14 Jan/18:46] <edhaskal> yea that
[14 Jan/18:46] <Los`Guy> nuttin much
[14 Jan/18:46] <shorin> is there anyway to connect to computers with a serial link without "direct cable connection", because my Win 98 is stuffed and won't let me install it.  
[14 Jan/18:46] <Los`Guy> just gave a voice
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[14 Jan/18:47] <pyrokiwi> welll wats wrong with win98 ?
[14 Jan/18:47] <Los`Guy> not that I know of shorin
[14 Jan/18:47] <ttaazz> shorin do you have pc anywhere
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[14 Jan/18:47] <shorin> when i go to windows setup i tick direct cable connection and it won't install
[14 Jan/18:48] <beastie> hmm....thanks
[14 Jan/18:48] <shorin> pc anywhere?
[14 Jan/18:48] <pyrokiwi> wat message does it bring up?
[14 Jan/18:48] <beastie> what would be a good isp to use...a free one, my msn account went dead last night
[14 Jan/18:49] <ttaazz> yes its a program where you use your modem to get into someone elses comp.
[14 Jan/18:49] <shorin> nothing, I click ok it closes the dialog box, then when i go back to it in the setup it isn't ticked
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[14 Jan/18:49] <ir> anyone know anything about ASP in here
[14 Jan/18:49] @ mode #win98 [+v ir] by Vulcan__!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[14 Jan/18:49] <pyrokiwi> hmmm thats weird 
[14 Jan/18:49] <pyrokiwi> let me seee u got parralal port?
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[14 Jan/18:50] <shorin> serial port
[14 Jan/18:50] <ir> anybody
[14 Jan/18:50] <darky_> what does it mean when i have a VxD error in VCACHE(01)
[14 Jan/18:50] <ttaazz> sorry ir
[14 Jan/18:50] <ttaazz> what is asp?
[14 Jan/18:50] <edhaskal> have you recently put in memory, darky?
[14 Jan/18:50] <darky_> yes and no
[14 Jan/18:51] <edhaskal> yes, but....
[14 Jan/18:51] <darky_> i been messing with my comp forever now.
[14 Jan/18:51] <ir> active server page or something like that
[14 Jan/18:51] <darky_> haven got it running correctly in 3 days
[14 Jan/18:51] <edhaskal> ok, darky, when did you put in the memory
[14 Jan/18:51] <ir> i'm in mis, and i want to learn some things about the web and programming, and somebody told me to learn that
[14 Jan/18:51] <darky_> its memory that was in ther before, but too it out when i keepgetting windows protection mode erreos on install
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[14 Jan/18:52] <darky_> bout 5 min ango
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[14 Jan/18:53] <edhaskal> when you originally installed win98, did you have this memory in?
[14 Jan/18:54] <ttaazz> shorin what if you download win 98 from someone and then try installing it?
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[14 Jan/18:54] <``remy> hello
[14 Jan/18:54] @ mode #win98 [+v ``remy] by Vulcan__!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[14 Jan/18:55] <darky_> no, but it wa in for like 2 months
[14 Jan/18:55] <``remy> need help about overclocking
[14 Jan/18:55] <ttaazz> darky did you try formatting it?
[14 Jan/18:55] <ir> so nobody has anything for me
[14 Jan/18:55] <ir> well take care
[14 Jan/18:56] <ttaazz> sorry ir not i
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[14 Jan/18:56] <pyrokiwi> hey Los`Guy can u get tweak thingy 4 win98 ?
[14 Jan/18:56] <pyrokiwi> and if so can ya use it 4 first edition?
[14 Jan/18:56] <Los`Guy> tweakUI?
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[14 Jan/18:56] <Los`Guy> it is on the win98 (first edition) cdrom
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[14 Jan/18:57] <pyrokiwi> yeh
[14 Jan/18:57] <pyrokiwi> oooh kewl
[14 Jan/18:57] <pyrokiwi> hav to get uit
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[14 Jan/18:58] <pyrokiwi> ahhh i hav cd :)
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[14 Jan/19:01] ! PJ_Telly is known as PeJay
[14 Jan/19:03] <ttaazz> darky you there?
[14 Jan/19:05] <pyrokiwi> LosGuy how do u install it?
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[14 Jan/19:06] <|SpRNovA|> hello people
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[14 Jan/19:07] <|SpRNovA|> what is the best utility to backup and restore the registry ... anybody knows?
[14 Jan/19:08] <pyrokiwi> its called system backup
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[14 Jan/19:09] <|SpRNovA|> i was thinking a progy with ease of use and flexible 
[14 Jan/19:09] <LosGuy> |SpRNovA| your using win98?
[14 Jan/19:10] <LosGuy> cuz win98 keeps several days worth of registries in the C:\windows\sysbckup dir in the rb00xx.cab files
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[14 Jan/19:11] <SpRNovA> win98 pings out off its own ip :)
[14 Jan/19:11] <LosGuy> |SpRNovA| your using win98?
[14 Jan/19:11] <LosGuy> cuz win98 keeps several days worth of registries in the C:\windows\sysbckup dir in the rb00xx.cab files
[14 Jan/19:12] <LosGuy> and scanreg /restore will restore versions of the reg
[14 Jan/19:12] <SpRNovA> I am thinking to backup the registry in installing basis
[14 Jan/19:12] <LosGuy> huh?
[14 Jan/19:12] <SpRNovA> when i install something i will backup
[14 Jan/19:12] <SpRNovA> before and after
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[14 Jan/19:12] <SpRNovA> so if something goes wrong i can pinpoint the problem
[14 Jan/19:12] <darky_> what does it mean when i have a VxD error in VCACHE(01). i get it on a 17 gig drive
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[14 Jan/19:13] <SpRNovA> Day by Day would also work but makes it harder
[14 Jan/19:13] <LosGuy> SpRNovA the registry is two files... system.dat and user.dat
[14 Jan/19:14] <SpRNovA> darky: Update your motherboard drivers 
[14 Jan/19:14] <darky_> i've updated the bios and just did a clean install
[14 Jan/19:15] <SpRNovA> and update your windows .. remebering seing a patch about large harddrives
[14 Jan/19:15] <darky_> for se?
[14 Jan/19:15] <LosGuy> yes
[14 Jan/19:16] <darky_> k i'll look
[14 Jan/19:16] <SpRNovA> LosGuy: registry is my weak stomach
[14 Jan/19:16] <SpRNovA> dunno squat about it
[14 Jan/19:17] <SpRNovA> All I know some program is messing my 98 and can't seem to find it
[14 Jan/19:17] <ttaazz> i put a 20 gig in mine and its 5 years old i did not have that problem as far as the motherboard
[14 Jan/19:17] <SpRNovA> so figured if i keep intense registry backup i can track the succer
[14 Jan/19:18] <SpRNovA> 20 gig .. 5 years old??? 
[14 Jan/19:18] <ttaazz> the comp is 5 yrs old
[14 Jan/19:18] <darky_> $$$$$$$$$$
[14 Jan/19:18] <SpRNovA> You must have paid 5000 bucs for that 
[14 Jan/19:19] <SpRNovA> and many many partitions
[14 Jan/19:19] <ttaazz> just 1
[14 Jan/19:19] <ttaazz> and i still have the other hard drive in too
[14 Jan/19:20] <darky_> don't see any larage had drisk update storage 1394 suplement maybe?
[14 Jan/19:20] <SpRNovA> 95 would erase anyything beyond 500mb when scandisk it (early versions)
[14 Jan/19:20] <ttaazz> the company said i couldnt go more then 1 gig but it did
[14 Jan/19:20] <ttaazz> i have 98
[14 Jan/19:21] <SpRNovA> well i am talking about win95 5 years ago
[14 Jan/19:21] <SpRNovA> what a pain in the ass it was !
[14 Jan/19:21] <ttaazz> i put this in 3 months ago
[14 Jan/19:21] <SpRNovA> Thought you said it was 5 years old
[14 Jan/19:22] <ttaazz> the comp.
[14 Jan/19:22] <ttaazz> is
[14 Jan/19:22] <SpRNovA> uhh ok
[14 Jan/19:22] <ttaazz> the company said it couldnt go over 1 gig 
[14 Jan/19:22] <SpRNovA> you were lucky then
[14 Jan/19:22] <ttaazz> so much for what they know
[14 Jan/19:23] <SpRNovA> LosGuY: how often 98 updates its registry?
[14 Jan/19:23] <SpRNovA> in every update or daily
[14 Jan/19:23] <Los`Guy> once a day unless youchoose to do it more often
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[14 Jan/19:24] <Los`Guy> (on the first boot of each day)(
[14 Jan/19:24] <darky_> sprnova: i see no larage hdd update on ms update. the vxd error contines to say something about being called by vfat32(01)+
[14 Jan/19:25] <Los`Guy> you will find the reg scan program under the tools menu start/run/type msinfo32
[14 Jan/19:25] <SpRNovA> VxD is motherboard driver eror if i am not wrong
[14 Jan/19:25] <ttaazz> ?  i want to delette win from my 1rst hard drive and put it on my 20 gig one and get rid of the 1st one should i fuck with it or wait till it goes ?my ? really is will i mess up being lucky with the 20 gig and poss. fuck it up?
[14 Jan/19:26] <Los`Guy> ttaazz:  no cussing here
[14 Jan/19:26] <ttaazz> sorry
[14 Jan/19:26] <Los`Guy> vxd is just a driver (virtual driver) error
[14 Jan/19:27] <darky_> i know, but i need one that doesn't error
[14 Jan/19:27] <darky_> it only happens when te drive is writing fast
[14 Jan/19:27] <SpRNovA> my motherboard gives VxD errors for my USB
[14 Jan/19:27] <Los`Guy> have you searched the knowledgebase? or deja.com?
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[14 Jan/19:27] <SpRNovA> so far i see no choice but to change my motherboard
[14 Jan/19:28] <Azmodan> nite guys
[14 Jan/19:28] <Azmodan> have fun
[14 Jan/19:28] <Los`Guy> nite az
[14 Jan/19:28] <SpRNovA> nite
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[14 Jan/23:07] <Azmodan> you still up Los?
[14 Jan/23:07] <LosGuy> yes I am az
[14 Jan/23:07] <Azmodan> hehehe
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[14 Jan/23:08] <LosGuy> camina says LOL! after every sentence
[14 Jan/23:09] <LosGuy> worse than me with hehe
[14 Jan/23:09] <Azmodan> lol
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[14 Jan/23:09] <LosGuy> hahah
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[15 Jan/13:34] <Los-Guy> SOS = Same Old Stuff (or what ever you want that last word to be)
[15 Jan/13:35] <Raph2000> SOS in French mean HELP HELP HELP ;-) that's why I asked you..
[15 Jan/13:38] <Los-Guy> ahh yeah ... as in SOS my ship is sinking!
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[15 Jan/13:41] <Boburo> hy i need some help:Can u pls tell how can i conect 2 puters local network infact on the same table with network cards.My puter doesn`t see the other one?
[15 Jan/13:41] <Boburo> can someone pls give me a hand?
[15 Jan/13:44] <Raph2000> do you have a cross over cable or a hub ?
[15 Jan/13:44] <Boburo> i have a  cross over cable
[15 Jan/13:45] <Raph2000> you have Win98 on both ?
[15 Jan/13:46] <Boburo> yes
[15 Jan/13:46] <Boburo> win98 se
[15 Jan/13:46] <Raph2000> you are using TCP IP  I guess, what IP and what subnet mask did you use ?
[15 Jan/13:47] <Boburo> well
[15 Jan/13:47] <Boburo> i tried tcp ip
[15 Jan/13:47] <Boburo> but the puter`s don`t see each other
[15 Jan/13:47] <Los-Guy> Boburo what kind of cable are you using to connect them?
[15 Jan/13:47] <Boburo> i tried ipx same thing
[15 Jan/13:47] <Los-Guy> ack lag
[15 Jan/13:47] <Los-Guy> or even bnc
[15 Jan/13:47] <Los-Guy> your sure of that..its important?
[15 Jan/13:47] <Boburo> ipx
[15 Jan/13:48] <Los-Guy> the computers have the same workgroup names and different computer names right? and file and printer sharing is installed (and same protocols on each?)
[15 Jan/13:48] <Boburo> yup
[15 Jan/13:48] <Los-Guy>  <<ÐêtóÑ8®>> Ping reply for Boburo: 224 Sec
[15 Jan/13:48] <Boburo> dang
[15 Jan/13:49] <Los-Guy>  <<ÐêtóÑ8®>> Ping reply for Boburo: 4 Sec
[15 Jan/13:49] <Los-Guy> better now
[15 Jan/13:49] <Boburo> nope it`s 7 from the server
[15 Jan/13:49] <Raph2000> in you Network properties, do you have ( for TCP IP ) TCP IP , CLIENT For Microsoft Windows and File and Print sharing INSTALLED ?
[15 Jan/13:49] <Boburo> file adn prin is instaled tcp ip i deleted it and added ipx
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[15 Jan/13:49] <Los-Guy> Boburo any conflicts at all in control panel / system? any problem with the install of the nics?
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[15 Jan/13:49] <Boburo> that`s waht i need should i add tcp/ip back
[15 Jan/13:50] <Boburo> no conflicts
[15 Jan/13:50] <Raph2000> I use TCP IP here.
[15 Jan/13:50] <Los-Guy> Boburo you probably want either netbeui or tcp/ip unless you need ipx for some older games
[15 Jan/13:50] <awara> hi what's ISO...in computer??any one know
[15 Jan/13:50] <Los-Guy> international standards organization
[15 Jan/13:50] <Raph2000> faster then me LosGuy ;-)
[15 Jan/13:50] <Boburo> i just need ipx
[15 Jan/13:50] <Los-Guy> if you mean .iso ... it is an image file
[15 Jan/13:51] <Raph2000> is it for a Game Boburo ?
[15 Jan/13:51] <Boburo> yes
[15 Jan/13:51] <Boburo> only ipx
[15 Jan/13:51] <Boburo> pls help me
[15 Jan/13:51] <Los-Guy> Boburo www.helmig.com
[15 Jan/13:51] <awara> windows 2000 final iso..what's ISO??plz
[15 Jan/13:52] <Los-Guy> `kb awara a topic violation thats what
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[15 Jan/13:52] <Raph2000> what happened ? and why ?
[15 Jan/13:53] <Los-Guy> I kicked him cuz he was asking about warez
[15 Jan/13:53] <Raph2000> how do you know ? 
[15 Jan/13:53] * Los-Guy knows
[15 Jan/13:53] <Los-Guy> he asked about a specific program that is not even released yet
[15 Jan/13:54] <Raph2000> I have Win2K here only RC2...anyway... Boburo, what kind of Network card do you have ?
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[15 Jan/13:56] <Boburo> hey that`s only win95 stuff
[15 Jan/13:56] <Los-Guy> at that URL?
[15 Jan/13:57] <Los-Guy> nah it is a great networking site
[15 Jan/13:57] <Boburo> yup
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[15 Jan/13:57] <Los-Guy> it is not ONLY win95
[15 Jan/13:57] <Boburo> but do u have any ideas what could be wrong i tried all that is there
[15 Jan/13:57] <Boburo> i tried tcp ip
[15 Jan/13:57] <Raph2000> http://www.helmig.com/j_helmig/win98.htm
[15 Jan/13:57] <Aleister> i seem to have windows/dos claiming to have two partitions in the space for one?
[15 Jan/13:57] <Boburo> netbeiu ipx
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[15 Jan/13:58] <Raph2000> do you have a light on the 2 network cards ?
[15 Jan/13:58] <Los-Guy> Aleister what is telling you this?
[15 Jan/13:58] <Aleister> i used the DOS subst commmand trying to redirect A: to my CD-R
[15 Jan/13:58] <Boburo> on mine yes on the other no it`s a isa NE2000
[15 Jan/13:58] <mY-AmaE> hi ... what's a good proxy server ?
[15 Jan/13:58] <Aleister> instead of doing that, it created a D: on my hard drive
[15 Jan/13:58] <Aleister> which showed as being of 0 bytes length
[15 Jan/13:58] <Los-Guy> Aleister that is what you told it to do
[15 Jan/13:59] <Aleister> no, the cd-r was the d drive at the time
[15 Jan/13:59] <Aleister> dos then bumped it up to E:
[15 Jan/13:59] <Raph2000> When you had TCP IP installed, could you ping the ohter Computer ?
[15 Jan/13:59] <Aleister> i tried formatting it, thinking it would see there is nothing there
[15 Jan/14:00] <Aleister> now it shows as being almost 8 gigs
[15 Jan/14:00] <Los-Guy> Aleister use subst /d command
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[15 Jan/14:00] <Los-Guy> in fact do subst /? for all commands
[15 Jan/14:00] <Boburo> nope
[15 Jan/14:00] <Boburo> i couldn`t ping him
[15 Jan/14:00] <Boburo> no route to host
[15 Jan/14:00] <Aleister> i'm showing over 18 gigs on a 13 gig drive
[15 Jan/14:00] <Raph2000> could you ping yourself ?
[15 Jan/14:01] <Boburo> myself
[15 Jan/14:01] <Boburo> hmm
[15 Jan/14:01] <Boburo> let me try
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[15 Jan/14:01] <Raph2000> if you have TCPIP Installed, it's important that you have a IP and a Subnet Mask.
[15 Jan/14:02] <Boburo> yes i can ping myself
[15 Jan/14:02] <Raph2000> what is your IP and what is your Subnet ?
[15 Jan/14:02] <Raph2000> then What is your other PC's IP ?
[15 Jan/14:02] <Aleister> i seem to have two partitions claiming the same area...
[15 Jan/14:03] <Boburo> bob-s-puter
[15 Jan/14:03] <Los-Guy> one is a virtual partition Aleister
[15 Jan/14:03] <Boburo> and the other vladdy
[15 Jan/14:03] <Los-Guy> YOU created it with the subst command
[15 Jan/14:04] <Aleister> how do i get rid of it?
[15 Jan/14:04] <Boburo> but i can only ping me
[15 Jan/14:04] <Boburo> :/
[15 Jan/14:04] <Los-Guy> use subst /? for help with the command
[15 Jan/14:04] <Raph2000> Bob, you gave me the Computer name, I want the IP address
[15 Jan/14:04] <Los-Guy> subst /D is what you need to use (but do subst /? for help)
[15 Jan/14:04] <Boburo> my ip
[15 Jan/14:04] <Boburo> ok
[15 Jan/14:04] <Boburo> 212.124.85.59
[15 Jan/14:04] <Aleister> i did that, it didn't tell me anything i didn't already know
[15 Jan/14:04] <Raph2000> and the other pc ?
[15 Jan/14:04] <Boburo> if i try to ping vladdy i get no route to host
[15 Jan/14:05] <Los-Guy> that is NOT his local network IP
[15 Jan/14:05] <Boburo> he doesn`t have a ip he doesn`t have a modem
[15 Jan/14:05] <Boburo> :/
[15 Jan/14:05] <Raph2000> ;-)))
[15 Jan/14:05] <Boburo> my local ip
[15 Jan/14:05] <Boburo> is
[15 Jan/14:05] <Boburo> bob-puter-s
[15 Jan/14:05] <Boburo> as dos says in win bob`s puter
[15 Jan/14:05] <Raph2000> the one that you set it up yourself..
[15 Jan/14:06] <Boburo> yup it`s bob`s puter
[15 Jan/14:06] <Boburo> but he can`t ping me and i can`t ping him
[15 Jan/14:06] <Boburo> :/
[15 Jan/14:07] <Raph2000> I think you should read this : http://www.helmig.com/j_helmig/win98.htm
[15 Jan/14:07] <Boburo> i din`t work with net cards yes so pls understand that i`m a very new newbie in this
[15 Jan/14:07] <Boburo> i`m doind that now
[15 Jan/14:07] <Raph2000> do you have netmeeting boburo ?
[15 Jan/14:08] <Boburo> hehe
[15 Jan/14:08] <Boburo> i think u`rr right
[15 Jan/14:08] <Boburo> i found what i din`t try yet
[15 Jan/14:08] <Boburo>  http://www.helmig.com/j_helmig/win98.htm
[15 Jan/14:08] <Boburo> i`ll just folow what is sayd there
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[15 Jan/14:08] <Boburo> and if i can`t set i`ll be back
[15 Jan/14:08] <Boburo> thanks very much for the help
[15 Jan/14:08] <Raph2000> ok
[15 Jan/14:08] <Boburo> very very much
[15 Jan/14:08] <Boburo> bye
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[15 Jan/14:10] <black14-> Salut tlm!
[15 Jan/14:11] <black14-> ca va?
[15 Jan/14:11] <Los-Guy> english only black14-
[15 Jan/14:12] <black14-> ho scuse!
[15 Jan/14:12] <black14-> bye
[15 Jan/14:12] <Raph2000> salut...
[15 Jan/14:12] <Raph2000> ;-)
[15 Jan/14:12] <black14-> t francais?
[15 Jan/14:13] <Raph2000> I'll talk to him...in private 
[15 Jan/14:13] <Los-Guy> ok Raph2000
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[15 Jan/14:31] <wahspUnaD> would anyone mind helping me with a win98 problem, it is with the add/remove program feature in the control panel
[15 Jan/14:32] <Los-Guy> can try
[15 Jan/14:32] <wahspUnaD> i was cleaning up my system unloading some programs when i got to one (can't remember which) i uninstalled it and when i did it cleared out my whole add/remove list
[15 Jan/14:33] <wahspUnaD> do you know what could have aused this?
[15 Jan/14:33] <Los-Guy> no... but
[15 Jan/14:34] <Los-Guy> do you have tweakUI installed?
[15 Jan/14:34] <wahspUnaD> i'm listening....
[15 Jan/14:34] <wahspUnaD> yes
[15 Jan/14:35] <Los-Guy> are there items listed there in add remove?
[15 Jan/14:35] <wahspUnaD> nope
[15 Jan/14:35] <Los-Guy> was the culprit norton utils?
[15 Jan/14:36] <wahspUnaD> nope, never had that on my system
[15 Jan/14:36] <Los-Guy> what program did this?
[15 Jan/14:36] <wahspUnaD> i can't remember which program it is, i wish i could, but it uninstalled really quickly then made my list disappear
[15 Jan/14:36] <Los-Guy> couple of things come to mind as posibilties... 
[15 Jan/14:36] <Los-Guy> scanreg /fix
[15 Jan/14:37] <wahspUnaD> in dos right?
[15 Jan/14:37] <wahspUnaD> windows/command directory?
[15 Jan/14:37] <Los-Guy> or restoring a older version of the registry ..but then you will have reg entries from the items you removed and would probably need to run the regcleaner
[15 Jan/14:37] <Los-Guy> uh no its command line
[15 Jan/14:37] <Los-Guy> or you can run msinfo32
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[15 Jan/14:37] <wahspUnaD> so just at the c pomp type scanreg?
[15 Jan/14:38] <Boburo> i`m back i did all i was told 2 nuffin works
[15 Jan/14:38] <Los-Guy> and you will find a regscanner under the tools
[15 Jan/14:38] <Los-Guy> scanreg /fix
[15 Jan/14:38] <Los-Guy> or
[15 Jan/14:38] <Los-Guy> scanreg /?
[15 Jan/14:38] <Los-Guy> for all the commands
[15 Jan/14:38] <Boburo> btw
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[15 Jan/14:38] <wahspUnaD> thanks, i'll do those things
[15 Jan/14:39] <Boburo> my net ip is 169.254.182.50 
[15 Jan/14:39] <Boburo> and the other is
[15 Jan/14:39] <wahspUnaD> brb
[15 Jan/14:39] <Los-Guy> wahspUnaD start / run type msinfo32
[15 Jan/14:39] < SignOff: wahspUnaD!upsandaway@r-250.190.alltel.net (If we don't hang together, we shall most assuredly hang separately! Now I'm leaving.)
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[15 Jan/14:39] <Boburo> 169.252.69.148
[15 Jan/14:39] <Boburo> i meen 144 at the end
[15 Jan/14:39] <Boburo> that the other puter
[15 Jan/14:39] <Boburo> that`s
[15 Jan/14:40] <Los-Guy> Boburo your positive that you have a crossover cable?
[15 Jan/14:40] <Los-Guy> not a normal pass through cable?
[15 Jan/14:40] <Boburo> it`s a black one
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[15 Jan/14:41] <Los-Guy> Boburo do this
[15 Jan/14:41] <Boburo> yes
[15 Jan/14:41] <wahspUnaD> how can i scan the reg using msinfo32?
[15 Jan/14:41] <Boburo> what?
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[15 Jan/14:41] <Los-Guy> take the cable out 
[15 Jan/14:41] <Los-Guy> under tools wahspUnaD
[15 Jan/14:41] <Los-Guy> hold the two ends together in the same position Boburo
[15 Jan/14:41] <wahspUnaD> i don't have a tools menu
[15 Jan/14:42] <Los-Guy> look to see if the colors of the wires going into the rj45 are in the same order
[15 Jan/14:42] <Boburo> one moment
[15 Jan/14:42] <Los-Guy> if they are it is not a crossover
[15 Jan/14:42] <Los-Guy> wahspUnaD start / run
[15 Jan/14:42] <Los-Guy> type MSINFO32
[15 Jan/14:42] <Los-Guy> you will see tools in the menu bar
[15 Jan/14:43] <Boburo> hmm
[15 Jan/14:43] <Boburo> hey i don`t have colour or anything
[15 Jan/14:43] <Los-Guy> under that you will see registry tool wahspUnaD
[15 Jan/14:43] <Boburo> it`s just a big iron hub
[15 Jan/14:43] <wahspUnaD> k
[15 Jan/14:43] <Los-Guy> Boburo 
[15 Jan/14:43] <Boburo> yes
[15 Jan/14:43] <Los-Guy> is the cable round or does it look like a big phone line cable?
[15 Jan/14:44] <Boburo> it`s not like a phone cable (but i have a phone cable 2 if that would help)
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[15 Jan/14:44] <Boburo> it`s round black
[15 Jan/14:44] <Los-Guy> doh
[15 Jan/14:44] <Los-Guy> that is BNC
[15 Jan/14:44] <wahspUnaD> thanks
[15 Jan/14:44] <wahspUnaD> brb
[15 Jan/14:44] < SignOff: wahspUnaD!upsandaway@r-250.190.alltel.net (If we don't hang together, we shall most assuredly hang separately! Now I'm leaving.)
[15 Jan/14:45] <Los-Guy> it is NOT a crossover... totally different thing
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[15 Jan/14:45] <Boburo> ok
[15 Jan/14:45] <Los-Guy> you have terminators on there?
[15 Jan/14:45] * Boburo is stupid
[15 Jan/14:45] <Boburo> yup
[15 Jan/14:45] <Los-Guy> read the BASICS/CABLING at helmig.com
[15 Jan/14:45] <Boburo> ol
[15 Jan/14:45] <Boburo> brb
[15 Jan/14:46] <Boburo> ok i meen :/
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[15 Jan/14:48] <Boburo> and what should i read there?
[15 Jan/14:48] <wahspUnaD> where is the registry usually backuped? because i used the registry checker and it said it found no errors, said that the registry had already been backed up today and asked if i wanted to do it again, it may have been backedup earlier when i didn't have the probelm so i was thinking i could restore that one, is that a good idea and if it is, where could i find it?
[15 Jan/14:49] <Azmodan> wahspUnaD, use scanreg /restore from DOS
[15 Jan/14:49] <Azmodan> choose the registry to restore and let it do its thing
[15 Jan/14:49] <Los-Guy> pick one dated BEFORE you made your changes...and remember what I told you
[15 Jan/14:49] <wahspUnaD> great! thanks
[15 Jan/14:49] <Los-Guy> you will have errors regarding the programs you deleted already
[15 Jan/14:50] <Los-Guy> you will need to clean thos things out
[15 Jan/14:50] <Los-Guy> ms has a reg cleaner on their site
[15 Jan/14:50] <wahspUnaD> yeah, but that is fixable using tweakui, right?
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[15 Jan/14:51] <Los-Guy> no wahspUnaD
[15 Jan/14:51] <Los-Guy> you will need to use a cleaner
[15 Jan/14:51] <wahspUnaD> oh i see....
[15 Jan/14:51] <wahspUnaD> ok
[15 Jan/14:51] <Los-Guy> wahspUnaD and back up your current reg first
[15 Jan/14:52] <wahspUnaD> what are the files to back up?
[15 Jan/14:52] <Boburo> i know
[15 Jan/14:52] <Boburo> it`s not  damn hub
[15 Jan/14:52] <Los-Guy> make a temp folder and find anc copy system.dat user.dat win.ini and system.ini
[15 Jan/14:52] <Boburo> it`s a terminator
[15 Jan/14:52] <wahspUnaD> ok...
[15 Jan/14:53] <Big`Ed> NO CUSSING
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[15 Jan/14:54] <wahspUnaD> thanks, be back in a few
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[15 Jan/14:54] <Boburo> so los what do u think i should it`s not a hub cable it ends witha terminator
[15 Jan/14:55] <Big`Ed> `say
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[15 Jan/14:56] <Los-Guy> HI Ed
[15 Jan/14:56] <Big`Ed> hi
[15 Jan/14:56] <Los-Guy> Boburo I never used the word hub
[15 Jan/14:57] <Los-Guy> the first question I asked you was what kind of cable are you using
[15 Jan/14:57] <Los-Guy> you said a crossover
[15 Jan/14:57] <Los-Guy> but now you say your cable is BNC (round)
[15 Jan/14:57] <Big`Ed> hehe
[15 Jan/14:57] <Boburo> i`m sorry i know
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[15 Jan/14:58] <Boburo> i was refering at me when i sayd damn
[15 Jan/14:58] <Big`Ed> still NO CUSSING
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[15 Jan/14:58] <Melanie> howdy
[15 Jan/14:58] <Melanie> I need some help, please
[15 Jan/14:58] <Big`Ed> hi
[15 Jan/14:59] <Big`Ed> what kind?
[15 Jan/14:59] <Big`Ed> Los-Guy is single
[15 Jan/14:59] <Raph2000> ask melanie.
[15 Jan/14:59] <Melanie> you see, this driver, doing all this annoying problems always close my IE up
[15 Jan/14:59] <Melanie> And it named Et6000.drv
[15 Jan/15:00] <Big`Ed> your on a network?
[15 Jan/15:00] <Melanie> and I think that's because the display driver
[15 Jan/15:00] <Melanie> nopes
[15 Jan/15:00] <Melanie> Win98
[15 Jan/15:00] <Melanie> Hebrew enabled
[15 Jan/15:00] <Big`Ed> i presume that is a video driver
[15 Jan/15:01] <Big`Ed> you would have to reload your video drivers
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[15 Jan/15:01] <Melanie> how do ido that?
[15 Jan/15:01] <wahspUnaD> ok, did that, it fixed the problem, thanks to both of you for your help
[15 Jan/15:01] <Los-Guy> np wahspUnaD
[15 Jan/15:01] <wahspUnaD> now where can i find the reg cleaner?
[15 Jan/15:01] <Big`Ed> Melanie - how exactly are you getting the error?
[15 Jan/15:02] <Los-Guy> wahspUnaD it is on ms site or search any shareware site
[15 Jan/15:02] <wahspUnaD> great, thanks
[15 Jan/15:02] <Melanie> I open IE/Photo Shop 5/Ace Expert and it gives me that error
[15 Jan/15:02] <Big`Ed> did you allways have this error or when did it start?
[15 Jan/15:03] <Melanie> ahh, yeah, but sometimes it fixed by itself
[15 Jan/15:04] <Big`Ed> yes - but how long have you been having it?
[15 Jan/15:04] <Melanie> not now, like last time, before i formatted
[15 Jan/15:04] <Melanie> i dunnno.. about a week
[15 Jan/15:04] <Big`Ed> and you have had this problem SINCE you reformated?
[15 Jan/15:04] <Big`Ed> i ask - cuz something is causing it
[15 Jan/15:05] <Melanie> well no, it happend last time as well
[15 Jan/15:05] <Melanie> not as aften tho
[15 Jan/15:05] <Big`Ed> but something you did then, and something you did NOW is causing this problem
[15 Jan/15:06] <Emma_> well
[15 Jan/15:06] <Melanie> I dunno.. last time ace expert worked very good now it won't even come up
[15 Jan/15:06] <Melanie> that driver having all kinda modes
[15 Jan/15:06] <Melanie> working whenever he feels like
[15 Jan/15:06] <Emma_> Big`Ed the problem has been adressed by others online before
[15 Jan/15:06] <Emma_> i did a search on et6000.drv on altavista
[15 Jan/15:07] <Big`Ed> explain Emma_
[15 Jan/15:07] <Emma_> and the same error popped right up on message forums
[15 Jan/15:07] <Melanie> with the same version
[15 Jan/15:07] <Big`Ed> go ahead
[15 Jan/15:07] <Emma_> it didnt help to reinstall what i suggest
[15 Jan/15:07] <Emma_> is that she finds out what kind of display card she has
[15 Jan/15:07] <Emma_> go to their website
[15 Jan/15:07] <Emma_> and download the newest driver
[15 Jan/15:07] <Emma_> and try that instead of using the standard windows drivers
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[15 Jan/15:08] <Melanie> any idea where from?
[15 Jan/15:08] <Emma_> i believe that http://hjem.get2net.dk/et6000/Release8.zip is the newest release
[15 Jan/15:08] <Emma_> yeah just pasted mel
[15 Jan/15:09] <Melanie> great, thanks alot
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[15 Jan/15:09] <Melanie> how do i install?
[15 Jan/15:10] <Melanie> i got to put it somewhere?
[15 Jan/15:10] <Emma_> well
[15 Jan/15:10] <Emma_> its a zip file
[15 Jan/15:11] <Boburo> any one have any ideas wichi terminator should be grounded
[15 Jan/15:11] <Boburo> ?
[15 Jan/15:11] <Melanie> yeah i noticed
[15 Jan/15:11] <Big`Ed> Boburo - www.helmig.com
[15 Jan/15:11] <Big`Ed> has all sorts of info on networking cables
[15 Jan/15:12] <Boburo> yeah i read it all
[15 Jan/15:12] <Azmodan> Boburo, I have no problems with ungrounded 50ohm terminators
[15 Jan/15:12] <Boburo> when i ping the other puter i get a ping but it`s a request timed out 
[15 Jan/15:12] <Boburo> 100% los
[15 Jan/15:12] <Boburo> lost
[15 Jan/15:13] <Boburo> what should i chnage in the config?
[15 Jan/15:13] <Big`Ed> Boburo - if you read it all - it tells you how to test your cables
[15 Jan/15:13] <Boburo> the network config
[15 Jan/15:14] <Big`Ed> Boburo - it also tells you exactly how to set up tcp/ip - and how to test it
[15 Jan/15:14] <wahspUnaD> do any of you suggest a registry cleaner i can downlaod, because i can't find the ms one on the ms site, and they have some funky selections at share ware.com
[15 Jan/15:14] <Boburo> dang
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[15 Jan/15:15] <Boburo> hey give me  hand here pls
[15 Jan/15:15] <Boburo> :?
[15 Jan/15:15] <Ed`AwaY> Boburo - this is giving a hand
[15 Jan/15:15] <Ed`AwaY> Boburo - do you not find the information there very informative and helpfull?
[15 Jan/15:16] <Boburo> yes it`s helpuff
[15 Jan/15:16] <Los-Guy> wahspUnaD it is there and many other places ... file name is regclean.exe
[15 Jan/15:16] <Ed`AwaY> troubleshooting bad networks is very hard - especially if there is no common baseline
[15 Jan/15:16] <wahspUnaD> k thanks
[15 Jan/15:16] <Boburo> but i need to do this fast do u have any ideas how to set the cables
[15 Jan/15:16] <Ed`AwaY> like knowing you have tried everthing that helmig suggests
[15 Jan/15:16] <Los-Guy> wahspUnaD make sure you get the win98 version 
[15 Jan/15:16] <Ed`AwaY> Boburo - networking is NOT fast
[15 Jan/15:16] <wahspUnaD> ok
[15 Jan/15:16] <Ed`AwaY> Boburo - guys are paid to do this full time for life
[15 Jan/15:16] <Azmodan> Boburo, are you useing coax?
[15 Jan/15:17] <Boburo> yup
[15 Jan/15:17] <Boburo> infact i don`t know what i`m using i told u i`ma new bie with net`s
[15 Jan/15:18] <Boburo> so sorry if i`m a dumb--------CENSORED--------
[15 Jan/15:18] <Azmodan> Boburo, don't answer yes then
[15 Jan/15:18] <Boburo> ok sorry
[15 Jan/15:18] <Azmodan> Boburo, does the end of the cable look like a big phone connector?
[15 Jan/15:18] <Azmodan> or is it round?
[15 Jan/15:18] <Boburo> it`s round it`s a terminator
[15 Jan/15:19] <Boburo> i ungraunded bought of the terminators
[15 Jan/15:19] <Azmodan> don't try to answer two questions at once
[15 Jan/15:19] <Boburo> ok
[15 Jan/15:19] <Azmodan> do you have 2 silver/stainless steel T shaped connectors?
[15 Jan/15:20] <Boburo> yup
[15 Jan/15:20] <Azmodan> ok
[15 Jan/15:20] <Azmodan> you plug the cable into on side of the T and the terminator into the other side of the T
[15 Jan/15:20] <Azmodan> on = one
[15 Jan/15:20] <Boburo> ok
[15 Jan/15:20] <Boburo> do i ground bought terminators
[15 Jan/15:21] <Azmodan> connect the base of the T socket to the network card in the computer
[15 Jan/15:21] <Boburo> ok
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[15 Jan/15:21] <Azmodan> do this for both of your computers
[15 Jan/15:21] <Boburo> ok
[15 Jan/15:21] <Azmodan> tell me when you've done this
[15 Jan/15:22] <Boburo> did it
[15 Jan/15:22] <Boburo> still geting ping time out 100% loss
[15 Jan/15:22] <Azmodan> don't ping yet
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[15 Jan/15:22] <Boburo> ok
[15 Jan/15:22] <oriam> hello
[15 Jan/15:22] <oriam> does anyone here use ATI TV tuner ? i can't get any sound from it ;(
[15 Jan/15:23] <Boburo> so bought terminators must be GROUNDED
[15 Jan/15:23] * Los-Guy doesnt oriam
[15 Jan/15:24] <Azmodan> Boburo, grounding the terminators does not matter
[15 Jan/15:24] <Boburo> ok
[15 Jan/15:24] <Azmodan> Boburo, can you click start, click run, type in WINIPCFG and press enter
[15 Jan/15:24] <Boburo> now what do i do to get the puters conected and a good ping>
[15 Jan/15:25] <Los-Guy> ack
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[15 Jan/15:25] <Azmodan> Boburo, just wait and I'll get you there
[15 Jan/15:25] <Boburo> ok
[15 Jan/15:25] <Boburo> ok 
[15 Jan/15:25] <Boburo> ok i started WINIPCFG
[15 Jan/15:26] <Azmodan> tell me what it says for IP Address and Subnet Mask for the Ethernet Adapter,  if the ethernet adaptor is not shown already in the first box select it and tell me the numbers
[15 Jan/15:26] <Boburo> dang
[15 Jan/15:27] <Boburo> it crushed
[15 Jan/15:27] <Azmodan> crushed?
[15 Jan/15:27] <Boburo> won`t start
[15 Jan/15:27] <Boburo> i`ll brb
[15 Jan/15:27] <Boburo> yup
[15 Jan/15:27] <Azmodan> crushed?
[15 Jan/15:27] <Boburo> i`ll just rebot
[15 Jan/15:27] <Boburo> ok
[15 Jan/15:27] <Azmodan> what does a crushed pc look like?  Is it flat?
[15 Jan/15:27] <Boburo> i don`t know
[15 Jan/15:28] <Boburo> can i rebot pls
[15 Jan/15:28] <Boburo> so i can start it
[15 Jan/15:28] <Azmodan> don't you mean it crashed
[15 Jan/15:28] <Boburo> pls
[15 Jan/15:28] <Boburo> yes that`s what i meen
[15 Jan/15:28] <Boburo> :/
[15 Jan/15:28] <Boburo> ok
[15 Jan/15:28] <Azmodan> yeah, reboot it
[15 Jan/15:28] <Boburo> brb
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[15 Jan/15:28] <Los-Guy> hehehe
[15 Jan/15:28] <Los-Guy> `op
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[15 Jan/15:29] <Azmodan> hehe
[15 Jan/15:29] <Los-Guy> `down
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[15 Jan/15:34] <Boburo> ok i`m back
[15 Jan/15:34] <Azmodan> ok, can you run winipcfg again please
[15 Jan/15:34] <Boburo> now what do i do next i started WINIPCFG
[15 Jan/15:34] <Boburo> yes it`s started
[15 Jan/15:34] <Azmodan> tell me the IP Address and subnet mask of your ethernet card
[15 Jan/15:35] <Boburo> ip is 212.124.85.59
[15 Jan/15:35] <Azmodan> Boburo, that is your modems address
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[15 Jan/15:35] <Boburo> 255.255.255.0
[15 Jan/15:35] <Boburo> i know
[15 Jan/15:35] <Azmodan> select your ethernet adapter from the drop down list at the top
[15 Jan/15:36] <Boburo> ok
[15 Jan/15:36] <DaveB`> what is run command to check  system files?
[15 Jan/15:36] <Azmodan> DaveB`, SFC
[15 Jan/15:36] <Los-Guy> SFC
[15 Jan/15:36] <Boburo> and now the program went down again
[15 Jan/15:36] <DaveB`> aha    that
[15 Jan/15:36] <DaveB`> thanks
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[15 Jan/15:37] <Boburo> ok
[15 Jan/15:37] <Boburo> it worked now
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[15 Jan/15:38] <Azmodan> Boburo, what worked?
[15 Jan/15:38] <Boburo> adapter adress-00-00-e8-9f-76-OE
[15 Jan/15:38] <Azmodan> IP Address
[15 Jan/15:38] <Azmodan> not adapter address
[15 Jan/15:38] <Boburo> that`s the adapter
[15 Jan/15:38] <Boburo> ok
[15 Jan/15:39] <Boburo> 169.254.182.150
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[15 Jan/15:39] <Boburo> subnet mask 255.255.0.0
[15 Jan/15:39] <_THX> anyone know how to get programs out of win98 registry
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[15 Jan/15:39] <Los-Guy> regclean.exe _THX
[15 Jan/15:39] <Melanie> duh delete it maybe?
[15 Jan/15:39] <Boburo> that`s all i have there
[15 Jan/15:39] <Los-Guy> is that what you mean THX?
[15 Jan/15:40] <Azmodan> Boburo, and get the same information from the second computer
[15 Jan/15:40] <Melanie> thanls guys for the help
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[15 Jan/15:40] <Los-Guy> else check regedit.com THC
[15 Jan/15:40] <Los-Guy> doh THX
[15 Jan/15:40] <Boburo> 169.254.69.144 ip adress
[15 Jan/15:40] <Boburo> i meen
[15 Jan/15:40] <Boburo> ip auconf. adress
[15 Jan/15:41] <Boburo> subnet mask:255.255.0.0
[15 Jan/15:41] <Azmodan> Boburo, you don't have an ip address on the second computer?
[15 Jan/15:41] <Boburo> no 
[15 Jan/15:41] <Boburo> no modem installed
[15 Jan/15:41] <Los-Guy> hehe
[15 Jan/15:41] <Azmodan> Boburo, don't tell me about modems
[15 Jan/15:41] <Azmodan> we are not talking about modems
[15 Jan/15:41] <_THX> thx....los
[15 Jan/15:41] <Boburo> ok sorry
[15 Jan/15:41] <Azmodan> Boburo, tell me about ethernet adaptors
[15 Jan/15:42] <Boburo> it`s a NE2000
[15 Jan/15:42] <Los-Guy> run winipcfg on the other comupter 
[15 Jan/15:42] <Boburo> on the other computer
[15 Jan/15:42] <Boburo> i did that
[15 Jan/15:42] <Los-Guy> AND?
[15 Jan/15:42] <Boburo> that`s where i got the info from
[15 Jan/15:42] <Azmodan> tell me the IP Address for the Ethernet Adaptor that winipcfg showed you
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[15 Jan/15:42] <Boburo> ok
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[15 Jan/15:43] <Boburo> 00-00-01-16-14-93
[15 Jan/15:43] <Boburo> that`s the adpters adress
[15 Jan/15:43] <Los-Guy> nope
[15 Jan/15:43] <Azmodan> that is the adapter address
[15 Jan/15:43] <Azmodan> IP IP IP
[15 Jan/15:44] <Boburo> the ip is 169.254.69.144
[15 Jan/15:44] ! Azmodan- is known as PurdyFly
[15 Jan/15:44] <Azmodan> Boburo, you have both network cards with the SAME IP address
[15 Jan/15:44] <Azmodan> Boburo, change the second one to 169.254.69.145
[15 Jan/15:44] <Boburo> nope
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[15 Jan/15:45] <Azmodan> yes you do
[15 Jan/15:45] <Azmodan> you just told us
[15 Jan/15:45] * Los-Guy thinks he hasnt checked them both
[15 Jan/15:46] <Azmodan> I asked you for the first one, and then the second one, you gave the same IP address BOTH times
[15 Jan/15:46] <Boburo> ok look the first one is 169.254.182.59 the second is 169.254.69.144
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[15 Jan/15:46] <Azmodan> <Boburo> ip auconf. adress
[15 Jan/15:46] <Azmodan> that do you mean by that
[15 Jan/15:46] <Boburo> yes
[15 Jan/15:46] ! PurdyFly is known as T-B-R
[15 Jan/15:47] <Azmodan> what do you mean by that does not require a yes/no answer
[15 Jan/15:47] <Boburo> the ips aren`t the same
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[15 Jan/15:47] <devilDigg> hi all
[15 Jan/15:47] <Azmodan> hi devilDigg 
[15 Jan/15:47] <Los-Guy> <Boburo> ip auconf. adress <--- WHAT does this mean?
[15 Jan/15:47] <devilDigg> hi az, los, ed, mandy
[15 Jan/15:47] <Los-Guy> wb devilDigg
[15 Jan/15:47] <devilDigg> thanks
[15 Jan/15:48] <Boburo> ok the fisrt one is "Ip autoconfigurationadress"-169.254.182.59
[15 Jan/15:48] <devilDigg> yo i finished everything, reinstalled linux, and everything is peachy :), now ill concentrate more in win98 for the weekend (spent the whole week with a headache from linux :))
[15 Jan/15:48] <Boburo> the second is 169.254.69.144
[15 Jan/15:48] <Ed`AwaY> lin who?
[15 Jan/15:49] ! Ed`AwaY is known as Big`Ed
[15 Jan/15:49] <Azmodan> where on earth does it say autoconfigurationaddress
[15 Jan/15:49] <devilDigg> wb ed
[15 Jan/15:49] <Big`Ed> is this windows95 too?
[15 Jan/15:49] <Big`Ed> hola
[15 Jan/15:49] <Boburo> my second option
[15 Jan/15:49] <Boburo> after adpter adress
[15 Jan/15:49] <Boburo> adapter
[15 Jan/15:49] <Boburo> grr
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[15 Jan/15:50] ! nickerv is known as Ceo2Be
[15 Jan/15:50] <Boburo> so just pls tell me how to conect the 2 puters
[15 Jan/15:51] <Los-Guy> Boburo in properties for network neighborhood, under properties for TCP/IP
[15 Jan/15:51] <Los-Guy> UNselect 'automaticly obtain IP'
[15 Jan/15:51] <Big`Ed> Boburo - are you using windows 95?
[15 Jan/15:51] <Boburo> no
[15 Jan/15:51] <Boburo> win 98 sec
[15 Jan/15:51] <Los-Guy> type in this number on one computer for the IP
[15 Jan/15:51] <Los-Guy> 192.168.0.1
[15 Jan/15:52] <Los-Guy> subnet mask will be 255.255.255.0
[15 Jan/15:52] <Los-Guy> do the same thing on the other computer except the IP will be 192.168.0.2
[15 Jan/15:52] <Los-Guy> REBOOT both computers at the same time
[15 Jan/15:53] <Boburo> ok
[15 Jan/15:53] <Boburo> brb
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[15 Jan/15:54] <Big`Ed> quick ban
[15 Jan/15:55] <Los-Guy> hehe I did once..but I took it off :)
[15 Jan/15:55] <Big`Ed> hehe
[15 Jan/15:55] <Azmodan> yeah, he wimped out
[15 Jan/15:55] <Los-Guy> and regret it too
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[15 Jan/15:56] <Azmodan> hey ozzy
[15 Jan/15:56] <Los-Guy> OS!
[15 Jan/15:56] <osbourne> howdy
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[15 Jan/15:58] <Big`Ed> `op
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[15 Jan/16:00] <Boburo> ok i did that
[15 Jan/16:00] <Boburo> it looks like they found eachother
[15 Jan/16:00] <Azmodan> Boburo, ping the second computer from the first then
[15 Jan/16:00] <Boburo> but the ping from the puter "no route to host"
[15 Jan/16:00] <Boburo> and from here request timed out
[15 Jan/16:01] <Los-Guy> Boburo what is the work group name?
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[15 Jan/16:02] <Boburo> one sec
[15 Jan/16:02] <CJ^> grrrrrrrrr
[15 Jan/16:03] <Los-Guy> my sentiments exactly CJ^ ..but probably for a different reason
[15 Jan/16:03] <devilDigg> cj!!
[15 Jan/16:03] <CJ^> gee...
[15 Jan/16:03] <Azmodan> I agree with you too CJ
[15 Jan/16:03] <CJ^> l0ve how they can call ya into work..
[15 Jan/16:03] <CJ^> and when yer inteh elevator... call and cancel your contract...
[15 Jan/16:04] <Azmodan> dang
[15 Jan/16:04] <Los-Guy> ouch
[15 Jan/16:04] <Boburo> do the name of the workgroups have to be the same?
[15 Jan/16:04] <Los-Guy> they have to pay you for 4 hours though if they call you in I belive
[15 Jan/16:04] <Los-Guy> Boburo that was the second thing I asked you ...you said yes
[15 Jan/16:04] <Los-Guy> yes they do
[15 Jan/16:04] <Los-Guy> sheez
[15 Jan/16:04] <Boburo> ok
[15 Jan/16:05] <Boburo> the we have to rebot
[15 Jan/16:05] <Boburo> brb
[15 Jan/16:05] <CJ^> they owe me for 11 hours actually..
[15 Jan/16:05] <Big`Ed> no way CJ^!!!
[15 Jan/16:05] <CJ^> tells me  hey  be in bright and early monday  hoep to see ya.. we'll have coffe...:P
[15 Jan/16:05] <CJ^> yeah Ed...
[15 Jan/16:05] * Los-Guy decides that Boburo is a troll and decides to ignore him
[15 Jan/16:05] <Big`Ed> finally
[15 Jan/16:07] <Big`Ed> so how can you work monday - if canceled?
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[15 Jan/16:09] <CJ^> ed..
[15 Jan/16:09] <CJ^> she lied to me plain and simple
[15 Jan/16:09] <CJ^> i have the msg here from Hall Kinion..
[15 Jan/16:09] <CJ^> 4:45pm   3 mins after i was in teh elevator...
[15 Jan/16:09] ! Tears is known as N0SFERATU
[15 Jan/16:09] <CJ^> i hadnt even left the building..
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[15 Jan/16:13] <Boburo> still nothing
[15 Jan/16:13] <Big`Ed> bummer
[15 Jan/16:13] <Boburo> i get timeouts and the other gets unreacheable
[15 Jan/16:13] <Azmodan> oh well
[15 Jan/16:13] <Azmodan> guess your just not meant to network
[15 Jan/16:14] <Boburo> well
[15 Jan/16:14] <Boburo> i`ll just try it from linux
[15 Jan/16:14] <Boburo> :/
[15 Jan/16:15] <Los-Guy> oh yeah 
[15 Jan/16:15] <Boburo> well thanks for helping guys
[15 Jan/16:15] <Boburo> take care all
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[15 Jan/16:15] <Los-Guy> good luck
[15 Jan/16:15] <Big`Ed> hahaha
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[15 Jan/16:15] <Azmodan> we don't want him back asking stupid linux questions
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[15 Jan/16:16] * devilDigg shuts his mouth about linux too ;)
[15 Jan/16:16] <Big`Ed> lin who?
[15 Jan/16:16] <devilDigg> dunno big
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[15 Jan/16:18] <CJ^> oh  love this...
[15 Jan/16:18] <CJ^> just gotta love this...
[15 Jan/16:18] <CJ^> Hall Kinion  just called me to tell me whwat the reason was......
[15 Jan/16:19] <CJ^> seems i like German Porn sites...
[15 Jan/16:19] <CJ^> WTH?????????/
[15 Jan/16:19] <devilDigg> WHAT?????
[15 Jan/16:19] <Los-Guy> haha
[15 Jan/16:19] <devilDigg> LOL
[15 Jan/16:19] <devilDigg> and he was right up specific :)
[15 Jan/16:20] <CJ^> weird...
[15 Jan/16:20] <CJ^> she could have just said.. i wasnt working out..
[15 Jan/16:20] <CJ^> but to say that crap...
[15 Jan/16:20] <CJ^> ooh.. bebbe
[15 Jan/16:20] <CJ^> now im gonna demand proof..
[15 Jan/16:21] <Big`Ed> yea - you didn't even start
[15 Jan/16:21] <CJ^> specailly... when the lab i was in.. wasnt hooked to the internat...:PP
[15 Jan/16:21] <CJ^> er internet..
[15 Jan/16:22] <devilDigg> oh thats just plain old stupid from her
[15 Jan/16:22] <CJ^> you better belive it....
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[15 Jan/16:23] <Big`Ed> hmm - i have a german kiddie porn god as a op here?
[15 Jan/16:24] <devilDigg> hi walkndude
[15 Jan/16:24] <CJ^> :P
[15 Jan/16:24] <CJ^> Ed..
[15 Jan/16:24] <CJ^> actually..
[15 Jan/16:24] <walkndude> hello all
[15 Jan/16:24] <CJ^> it was a PUSH braodcast from San Diego...
[15 Jan/16:24] <CJ^> they sent the German Magazine to us...
[15 Jan/16:24] <CJ^> everyone saw it..
[15 Jan/16:24] <CJ^> the manager there is claiming I did it...
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[15 Jan/16:25] <Big`Ed> not fun
[15 Jan/16:25] <CJ^> oh   its gonna be lots of fun
[15 Jan/16:25] <CJ^> ill get about a ton of denials..
[15 Jan/16:25] <CJ^> and  "sorry we dont knwo what to tell ya" comments
[15 Jan/16:25] <CJ^> no worries..
[15 Jan/16:25] <CJ^> i have 2 other interviews with MSN this week anyway that i was postponing...
[15 Jan/16:25] <CJ^> so..
[15 Jan/16:26] <CJ^> think ill go see em
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[15 Jan/16:28] <_WaZuP_> how can i find out my ip without mirc or icq/
[15 Jan/16:28] <_WaZuP_> ?
[15 Jan/16:29] <devilDigg> start \ run \ winipcfg
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[15 Jan/16:30] <Big`Ed> do a /dns on your NICK
[15 Jan/16:30] <Big`Ed> oh - without
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[15 Jan/16:32] <devilDigg> rude, he asks then leaves..
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[15 Jan/16:33] <Los`Guy> yeah that is rude devilDigg
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[15 Jan/16:34] <devilDigg> wb walkndude
[15 Jan/16:34] <Azmodan> heya walkndude 
[15 Jan/16:34] <Big`Ed> runningman!
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[15 Jan/16:35] <devilDigg> lol
[15 Jan/16:35] <walkndude> thanks
[15 Jan/16:35] <walkndude> hello
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[15 Jan/16:38] <walkndude> I been having problems for a week or two staying online
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[15 Jan/16:39] <walkndude> not the ISP must be the phone lines, prob laying some new wagon trails in the Tulsa area.
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[15 Jan/16:40] <devilDigg> u live in oklahoma?
[15 Jan/16:40] <walkndude> yeah
[15 Jan/16:41] <Big`Ed> injuns cut your telephone pole down white man
[15 Jan/16:42] <walkndude> yeah and it ain't even the first of the month
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[15 Jan/16:44] <walkndude> hi Losguy
[15 Jan/16:46] <devilDigg> wb los
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[15 Jan/16:47] <Los-Guy> `say
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[15 Jan/16:49] <devilDigg> bbl
[15 Jan/16:49] <LosGuy> hi walkndude
[15 Jan/16:49] <Big`Ed> bye
[15 Jan/16:49] <Los-Guy> see ya devilDigg
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[15 Jan/16:51] <Big`Ed> `op
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[15 Jan/17:12] <walkndude> I need to find a converter for a slot 1
[15 Jan/17:12] <walkndude> motherboard
[15 Jan/17:13] <Los-Guy> pricewatch has them I thikn
[15 Jan/17:13] <Los-Guy> think
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[15 Jan/17:13] <walkndude> yeah..I just hate to get started
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[15 Jan/17:14] <ag1> can someone enlighten me a bit regarding an mprexe error message i was receiving?
[15 Jan/17:14] <Los-Guy> what was the exact error message?
[15 Jan/17:15] <ag1> it wasnt able to detect what themodule was when i clicked on "details"
[15 Jan/17:15] <ag1> i have since sort of corrected the problem, maybe... but am wondering what to do
[15 Jan/17:16] <ag1> i had a backup of my registry from a few days ago and imported it, things seem to work.. but here is when the problem started...
[15 Jan/17:16] <ag1> i installed win2000 on the system to have a dual boot option, then all of a sudden i couldnt do anything in win98... i would get somethinig like  "an unspecified error has occured"  then i'd click ok, then i'd get the mprexe error...
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[15 Jan/17:17] <Los-Guy> try reinstalling windows98 on top of itself?
[15 Jan/17:17] <ag1> another thing i noticed, prior to reloading the registry, was that i could go out and manually run c:\windows\system\mprexe.exe  adn then i could load things like windows explorer, whereas before i couldnt...
[15 Jan/17:17] <Big`Ed> hahaha
[15 Jan/17:17] <ag1> well, i tried that too... but it didnt work...
[15 Jan/17:18] <Big`Ed> must be nice to have BOUGHT win2000 allready
[15 Jan/17:18] <ag1> no, its RC2
[15 Jan/17:18] <CJ^> ag1....  why ya running it?
[15 Jan/17:18] <ag1> which i get legally...
[15 Jan/17:18] <Big`Ed> so your a legal beta site?
[15 Jan/17:18] <CJ^> specially THAT old of a beta
[15 Jan/17:18] <ag1> you could say that
[15 Jan/17:18] <CJ^> no...
[15 Jan/17:18] <ag1> there only on RC3 now...
[15 Jan/17:18] <CJ^> are ya  or arent ya
[15 Jan/17:18] <ag1> as far as i no
[15 Jan/17:18] <ag1> know
[15 Jan/17:18] <CJ^> ag1  its shipped
[15 Jan/17:19] <CJ^> its final
[15 Jan/17:19] <CJ^> its GOLD...
[15 Jan/17:19] <CJ^> hello..
[15 Jan/17:19] <ag1> cool... i've been too busy to really know that i guess..
[15 Jan/17:19] <ag1> anyway, the RC2 was giving me problems..
[15 Jan/17:19] <ag1> i am loading it on a laptop
[15 Jan/17:20] <Big`Ed> do you have the problem with ONLY clean windows 98 install?
[15 Jan/17:20] <CJ^> too busy to turn on a TV?
[15 Jan/17:20] <CJ^> ahh  nm
[15 Jan/17:20] <ag1> i couldnt get it to load up after the install... then when i take out the pcmcia cards it boots up fine...
[15 Jan/17:21] <ag1> otherwise i get a message something regarding KMODE_....
[15 Jan/17:21] <ag1> i didnt have many problems with win98 before... nothing that bad anyway
[15 Jan/17:21] <ag1> i was about to format the c: partition, and reinstall 98
[15 Jan/17:22] <ag1> i imagine all my stuff on the d and e partitions would be fine even if i format the c, right?
[15 Jan/17:22] <walkndude> right
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[15 Jan/17:22] <ag1> to answer your question of why i was loading it, one reason was that i wanted NT, 4 would have been fine for me, but unfortunately, due to user error (yeah, thats me) i made the drive FAT32....
[15 Jan/17:23] <ag1> so i was stuck with win2000
[15 Jan/17:23] <Big`Ed> ag1 - mprexe deals mostly with networking
[15 Jan/17:23] <Big`Ed> if you are getting other errors too
[15 Jan/17:23] <Big`Ed> it is indicative of other problems
[15 Jan/17:23] <Free`> hiya ...... my computer running with win98 wont go on power standby ..... keeps saying some device is wrong ..... is there an easy fix ?
[15 Jan/17:23] <Big`Ed> ag1 - also we do NOT support WAREZ - NON win98 problems
[15 Jan/17:24] <Big`Ed> Free` - what device is wrong?
[15 Jan/17:24] <walkndude> http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q178/0/84.asp?LNG=ENG&SA=ALLKB
[15 Jan/17:24] <Big`Ed> Free` - you have lots of devices
[15 Jan/17:24] <walkndude> that may or may not help?
[15 Jan/17:25] <Big`Ed> good link walkndude - closes thing
[15 Jan/17:25] <Free`> Big`Ed - heh heh ..... i wish it said ..... i remember a while back though i was told to run a win98 config program and turn a setting back on .. after which it worked fine
[15 Jan/17:25] <ag1> Big`Ed its is/was a win98 problem, as far as i could tell, but i am a little skeptical, since it only occured after installing win2000
[15 Jan/17:26] <Big`Ed> correct 
[15 Jan/17:26] <Big`Ed> that problem was very prevelent in 95 days
[15 Jan/17:26] <Big`Ed> and is almost non-existent in 98 
[15 Jan/17:26] <ag1> which one?
[15 Jan/17:26] <Big`Ed> perhaps if you get your system back to a LEGAL win98 configuration - we can help you farther
[15 Jan/17:27] <Free`> Big`Ed - problem is i don't remember what it was i ran to fix it last time
[15 Jan/17:27] <ag1> well it is now.. i would say
[15 Jan/17:27] <ag1> i mean, things are working now....
[15 Jan/17:27] <Big`Ed> Free` - msconfig
[15 Jan/17:27] <ag1> though i havent tried rebooting to see if win2K would load
[15 Jan/17:27] <Big`Ed> ag1 - ok - things are working - whats the problem?
[15 Jan/17:28] <Big`Ed> no warez (warning 2)
[15 Jan/17:28] <Free`> Big`Ed - woooooooo ........ that was simple ....... thanks a million :)
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[15 Jan/17:28] <ag1> well, back to what my original question was then,  does anyone have any idea why that happened to me?
[15 Jan/17:28] <ag1> big`ed are you saying that to me?
[15 Jan/17:29] <walkndude> heheh
[15 Jan/17:29] <CJ^> yes ag1...
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[15 Jan/17:29] <CJ^> he is..
[15 Jan/17:29] <ag1> i never asked a non win98 question!
[15 Jan/17:29] <CJ^> win2k  is not in stores...
[15 Jan/17:29] <Big`Ed> yes  = your using a old version of beta network OS mixed with a released desktop os.   Second, see the link that walkndude sent you
[15 Jan/17:29] <CJ^> talkign about it technically breaks the NDA
[15 Jan/17:29] <ag1> and what does WAREZ mean anyway?
[15 Jan/17:30] <CJ^> stolen software
[15 Jan/17:30] <walkndude> ZZzzz
[15 Jan/17:30] <ag1> excuse the ignorance...
[15 Jan/17:30] <Big`Ed> all problems caused by using your legal beta software is supported by microsoft for free as part of the beta program.
[15 Jan/17:30] <CJ^> thats what it means
[15 Jan/17:31] <ag1> well, it is legal beta software then... my company has a partnership with microsoft, we get many of their products to run, and i am running it on a company laptop...
[15 Jan/17:31] <CJ^> and...  to tell the truth  if you are a beta tester... you would be aware that it has shipped.. cause you would have teh RC3 or final by now...
[15 Jan/17:31] <CJ^> ag1  your company does...
[15 Jan/17:31] <CJ^> its to be used at the company... as per the agreement..
[15 Jan/17:31] <ag1> well, i am travelling and havent been in the office in quite a while...
[15 Jan/17:31] <Big`Ed> ag1 - just cuz your COMPANY tossed the CD to you like a fresbee don't make your installation of it legal.
[15 Jan/17:32] <ag1> exactly, and since i am travelling and using company hardware (though as far as i understand i am also allowed to run it on my home pc if i wish..) its all legal
[15 Jan/17:32] <walkndude> what strike we on now 2 or 3 ?
[15 Jan/17:32] <CJ^> no ag1  its not...
[15 Jan/17:32] <Azmodan> I think we just made it to strike 5
[15 Jan/17:32] <Big`Ed> better go back and READ the license on what you installed then
[15 Jan/17:32] <CJ^> the company admins shudl have told you this...
[15 Jan/17:32] <ag1> what isnt legal about it?
[15 Jan/17:32] <CJ^> i really hope your not an IT pro...
[15 Jan/17:32] <Big`Ed> `kick ag1
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[15 Jan/17:32] <walkndude> yep
[15 Jan/17:32] <walkndude> company brb
[15 Jan/17:33] <Big`Ed> (wonder where it said free to use on home pc's too)
[15 Jan/17:33] <Big`Ed> i gotta get that EULA
[15 Jan/17:33] <CJ^> actually.....
[15 Jan/17:33] <CJ^> only MS internals.. and a few companies were allowed to do that Ed..
[15 Jan/17:33] <CJ^> Like Compaq and what have ya....
[15 Jan/17:34] <Big`Ed> but he just has that MSDN thing
[15 Jan/17:34] <CJ^> right
[15 Jan/17:34] <CJ^> and thats NOT legal...
[15 Jan/17:35] <CJ^> the EULA with MSDN does allow it to beinstalled on as many test systems that are logged to MS...
[15 Jan/17:35] <Big`Ed> [20:30] *ag1* well, I'd at least like to say thank you for the assistance you did provide me with. As far as I know there is nothing illegal about what i am doing, but i will verify this. Its a shame that many of the people in the channel dont have the patience or openmindedness to at least consider that I may be correct.... at least i will verify what i say is true, i doubt anyone there knows for 100% sure that I am doing something illegal. thanks, and
[15 Jan/17:35] <Big`Ed> right - logged to msdn
[15 Jan/17:35] <CJ^> yeap
[15 Jan/17:35] <Big`Ed> not any pc
[15 Jan/17:35] <CJ^> all the systems that have it installed become part of the BUG report DB
[15 Jan/17:35] <Big`Ed> it also talks about the support (actually lack off) on the beta
[15 Jan/17:36] <CJ^> hehe
[15 Jan/17:36] <CJ^> support is provided by email...
[15 Jan/17:36] <CJ^> except ot priority customers with showstopper bugs
[15 Jan/17:37] <CJ^> IE: COmpaq with a 36 proc Alpha...
[15 Jan/17:37] <Big`Ed> my latest beta software from microsoft has a 3 page license NDA
[15 Jan/17:37] <CJ^> hehe
[15 Jan/17:37] <CJ^> reall..
[15 Jan/17:37] <CJ^> didnt think testing the MSN IM was that hard though...
[15 Jan/17:37] <CJ^> BoB 2.3
[15 Jan/17:38] <Big`Ed> they kicked in several beta cycles right after the new year
[15 Jan/17:38] <Big`Ed> i'm in 4
[15 Jan/17:38] <CJ^> "Click here to install.... click here to contiune with the install... click here and here to shut me up and just do what you want... and see if I care.. and BTW  im telling Bahlmer!!!"
[15 Jan/17:39] <Big`Ed> a bahlmer blabber eh?
[15 Jan/17:39] <CJ^> yeap
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[15 Jan/17:39] <Big`Ed> haha
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[15 Jan/17:42] <Patty> I have a problem....I can not boot from a Boot diskette on my win98 !
[15 Jan/17:42] <CJ^> Patty  is yer computer set to boot off a floppy disk?
[15 Jan/17:43] <Los-Guy> Patty didnt we go through this last night?
[15 Jan/17:43] <Patty> ah....we did ? 
[15 Jan/17:43] <Patty> maybe ...but I still can not 
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[15 Jan/17:43] <AR-15> Someone please help
[15 Jan/17:43] <Los-Guy> you cant see anything until windows is loaded?
[15 Jan/17:43] <AR-15> I have a stupid winmodem
[15 Jan/17:43] <CJ^> ar-15  and?
[15 Jan/17:43] <AR-15> Sportster ?? Speed.  WIN98 recogizes it, but finds no drivers
[15 Jan/17:44] <AR-15> Therefore it doesnot work
[15 Jan/17:44] <AR-15> I went to USR's webpage
[15 Jan/17:44] <CJ^> ar-15  then goto www.3com.com and download them for your modem
[15 Jan/17:44] <Patty> correct...I still can't see anyting
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[15 Jan/17:44] <AR-15> and DL some drivers.  I do not know the brand of the modem either
[15 Jan/17:44] <CJ^> get the model number off the modem  and get the right drivers for it
[15 Jan/17:44] <CJ^> ar-15  ya just said it was a sportster..
[15 Jan/17:44] <Los-Guy> Patty what brand of computer do you have?
[15 Jan/17:44] <CJ^> the model number is on it..
[15 Jan/17:44] <AR-15> But When I dl the ALL Sportsters models, still no luck
[15 Jan/17:44] <CJ^> the white sticker...
[15 Jan/17:44] <AR-15> It doesn't say on it.
[15 Jan/17:44] <AR-15> Let me ask you this
[15 Jan/17:45] <AR-15> I have a few INF files, 
[15 Jan/17:45] <CJ^> no
[15 Jan/17:45] <CJ^> wait
[15 Jan/17:45] <CJ^> it has a model number on it...
[15 Jan/17:45] <CJ^> either the sticker..
[15 Jan/17:45] <AR-15> why doesn't WIN98 recognize the INF files I am pointing to. BRB let me grab the card
[15 Jan/17:45] <CJ^> OR the model engraved in the back...
[15 Jan/17:45] <CJ^> thast ALL USR/3Com modems...
[15 Jan/17:45] <AR-15> On the back
[15 Jan/17:46] <AR-15> 4 White stickers
[15 Jan/17:46] <AR-15> 1 is bull crap about the UL info
[15 Jan/17:46] <CJ^> white sticker on the modem  yes
[15 Jan/17:46] <CJ^> there will be a bar code..
[15 Jan/17:46] <CJ^> look for that
[15 Jan/17:46] <CJ^> it even tells ya on the USR site
[15 Jan/17:46] <AR-15> 1 is noting "IBM PART 12/2964 FRY 122965 Manufactured by US Robotics
[15 Jan/17:46] <Patty> it's an "Asus P5A-B" motherboard, AMD K6 400 Mhz, 32 RAm
[15 Jan/17:46] <AR-15> no bar codes
[15 Jan/17:47] <AR-15> oh other side
[15 Jan/17:47] <AR-15> Ok, what about the bar code
[15 Jan/17:47] <CJ^> you see th bar code???
[15 Jan/17:47] <Big`Ed> i think USR has a downloadable modem identifier program
[15 Jan/17:47] <CJ^> yes they do
[15 Jan/17:47] <CJ^> as well...
[15 Jan/17:48] <Big`Ed> since this is a IBM hack
[15 Jan/17:48] <AR-15> Here is what the bar says
[15 Jan/17:48] <CJ^> now  you see the bar code ar-15??
[15 Jan/17:48] <Patty> could it be my BIOS ? what can I do ?
[15 Jan/17:48] <Los-Guy> patty are you running an OEM version of win98?
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[15 Jan/17:49] <AR-15> (underneith) 210B65602807 40175000               r:2
[15 Jan/17:49] <CJ^> 6560
[15 Jan/17:49] <Patty> I think so...I did not install it myself....
[15 Jan/17:49] <AR-15> Cj - Was on the other side
[15 Jan/17:49] <Patty> they installed it where i purchased it
[15 Jan/17:49] <Patty> why ?
[15 Jan/17:49] <CJ^> ok  gimme a sec
[15 Jan/17:50] <Los-Guy> because some oems boot a bit differently
[15 Jan/17:50] <AR-15> thanks
[15 Jan/17:50] <Los-Guy> does the floppy work in win98 Patty?
[15 Jan/17:51] <Patty> yes it does
[15 Jan/17:52] <Patty> i can access it ...and do everything regular
[15 Jan/17:52] <Los-Guy> Patty I think you need to return it to the people that sold it to you and installed win98 to get assistance
[15 Jan/17:52] <Big`Ed> need to figure out how to get to the bios then and reset the default boot to A:
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[15 Jan/17:52] <Big`Ed> and since the screen does not work right - make them fix it if THEY installed it
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[15 Jan/17:55] <Patty> why ? what could be wrong...if at least i knew what the problem was then I'd understand and not do it again
[15 Jan/17:55] <Patty> but what could of happend ?
[15 Jan/17:55] <Los-Guy> we cant tell from here patty
[15 Jan/17:55] <Big`Ed> well - first thought - boot to a:
[15 Jan/17:55] <Big`Ed> that is a setting inside the bios
[15 Jan/17:55] <Patty> could it be that my Bios is "dead" ? 
[15 Jan/17:55] <Big`Ed> did they install the motherboard for you?
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[15 Jan/17:57] <AR-15> Any luck CJ
[15 Jan/17:58] <Patty> it doesn't even do a memory test, at the beginning , doesn't check the drive...just goes directly into win98
[15 Jan/17:58] <Big`Ed> Patty - did they install the motherboard for you?
[15 Jan/17:58] <AR-15> I believe its a voicemodem
[15 Jan/17:58] <AR-15> Looks like one from the pics
[15 Jan/17:58] <Big`Ed> [20:45] <AR-15> (underneith) 210B65602807 40175000               r:2
[15 Jan/17:58] <Big`Ed> [20:45] <CJ^> 6560
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[15 Jan/17:59] <AR-15> what
[15 Jan/17:59] <Patty> yes they did...when I got the computer, everything WAS working perfectly
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[15 Jan/17:59] <Big`Ed> so at some point after you transported it home, this started?
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[15 Jan/18:00] <Big`Ed> hi skippy
[15 Jan/18:01] <Fizban> still looking
[15 Jan/18:01] <Fizban> almost
[15 Jan/18:01] <Patty> I must of done something.....!
[15 Jan/18:02] <Big`Ed> patty - i suspect that something came loose, or was not installed correctly from them.
[15 Jan/18:02] <Patty> yes they did
[15 Jan/18:02] <Big`Ed> you should have video immediatally on turn on
[15 Jan/18:02] <Big`Ed> you should see post and hear post test
[15 Jan/18:02] <Big`Ed> you should see that on the screen
[15 Jan/18:02] <Big`Ed> and then - you should see win98 splash
[15 Jan/18:02] <Patty> It was working fine when I got the computer
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[15 Jan/18:03] <Fizban> PCI or ISA?
[15 Jan/18:03] <Fizban> 5602  is what i shodul have said..
[15 Jan/18:03] <Fizban> PCI  or ISA?  whioch is it???
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[15 Jan/18:04] <Big`Ed> patty - prob would be best to take it back to them... this is beyond this channels capability for online help
[15 Jan/18:04] <AR-15> ISA
[15 Jan/18:04] <Patty> yes....kind of....
[15 Jan/18:04] <AR-15> sorry was in other room
[15 Jan/18:04] <Patty> I worked on it for about 2-3 months and then....Poufffff !
[15 Jan/18:05] <AR-15> Fizban / CJ
[15 Jan/18:05] <AR-15> Get this
[15 Jan/18:05] <AR-15> Regedit recognizes it as a 0100
[15 Jan/18:05] <Big`Ed> Patty - something went bad on the motherboard
[15 Jan/18:06] <CJ^> yo
[15 Jan/18:06] <Big`Ed> <<LósGüyPB&J>> Ping reply for CJ^: 265 Sec
[15 Jan/18:06] <Big`Ed> [CJ^ PING reply]: 4mins 25secs
[15 Jan/18:06] <Patty> I have a CD that came with the motherboard manual....could that serve me for anything  ?
[15 Jan/18:06] <Big`Ed> nope
[15 Jan/18:07] <Big`Ed> not if you can't see dos, boot dos, enter bios
[15 Jan/18:07] <Patty> the memory ?
[15 Jan/18:07] <Big`Ed> doubt that part
[15 Jan/18:07] * Big`Ed has to reboot
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[15 Jan/18:08] <F0o> Hi
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[15 Jan/18:08] <Patty> NOW I can't (don't hear anything) .... but before I did....
[15 Jan/18:08] <F0o> hay I was wondering what the deference was of having ya cdrom on dma or not ?
[15 Jan/18:09] <Los-Guy> try it..it might not work, or may cause errors..or be unreadable
[15 Jan/18:09] <F0o> what dma ?
[15 Jan/18:10] <Los-Guy> direct memory access
[15 Jan/18:10] <CJ^> ok
[15 Jan/18:10] <Patty> kind of hard to do...oh well.....no luck for me ...:o(
[15 Jan/18:10] <F0o> didn't seam to make a deference if it was on or off :)
[15 Jan/18:10] <CJ^> AR is htere a bar code at the back of the modem??
[15 Jan/18:11] <Patty> thanks anyways...guess I am stuck
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[15 Jan/18:11] <CJ^> no jumpers on this thing at all AR-15??
[15 Jan/18:11] <Los-Guy> it doesnt sound like anything that can be handled over the net patty
[15 Jan/18:12] <Patty> can the BIOS be reinstalled ?
[15 Jan/18:12] <CJ^> ouch
[15 Jan/18:12] <kickboxer> does anyone here have the Intellipoint drivers (version 3.0) for MS pointing devices?  I can't find my cd for my optical intellimouse and I am out of luck without them.
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[15 Jan/18:12] <Los-Guy> it can be reflashed ...is that something you did before patty?
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[15 Jan/18:13] <lippy> hi
[15 Jan/18:13] <F0o> anyone know how to install the win95 shell into 98 I've heard it speed things up ?
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[15 Jan/18:13] <Patty> i can go into msdos window
[15 Jan/18:13] <CJ^> better?
[15 Jan/18:13] <Patty> but when I maximize the window...It goes all black again
[15 Jan/18:13] <Los-Guy> F0o look for lite98
[15 Jan/18:13] <F0o> Los-Guy: doesn't that need a complete re-install ?
[15 Jan/18:13] <Los-Guy> patty changed any settings on your monitor?
[15 Jan/18:14] <Los-Guy> dunno F0o I dont mess with my OS like that
[15 Jan/18:14] <F0o> << does :))
[15 Jan/18:14] <jet> CJ 5 sec
[15 Jan/18:14] <Los-Guy> I prefer stability
[15 Jan/18:14] <F0o> there is such a thing :) 
[15 Jan/18:14] <Los-Guy> kickboxer cant help you and we do not do files on this channel
[15 Jan/18:15] <Los-Guy> my win98 is rock solid
[15 Jan/18:15] <Los-Guy> as solid as my linux box (more if you include Xwindows)
[15 Jan/18:15] <CJ^> AR  that number ya gacve  is that with ahte bar code????
[15 Jan/18:15] <CJ^> and it it at the back of the modem?
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[15 Jan/18:16] <F0o> so is mine normale, today it started doing strange things, my cd-r/cd-rw went west, for some reason could've been because I deltree C:\windows\sysbckup (thinking that directory wasn't needed "it is back up") :)
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[15 Jan/18:17] <Los-Guy> doesnt sound normal to me if your doing deltree on windows files
[15 Jan/18:18] <F0o> well it bckup, which I asume is a back up, there for it should've be access cd drivers in a backup directory, but in C:\windows\system(32) etc
[15 Jan/18:18] <CJ^> danit
[15 Jan/18:18] <CJ^> ok
[15 Jan/18:18] <CJ^> hmm
[15 Jan/18:19] <CJ^> someone wanan send that product number again on that modem?  i think i may have it
[15 Jan/18:19] <F0o> CJ^: Don't you have scroll back :)
[15 Jan/18:20] <Los-Guy> I am looking..who said it?
[15 Jan/18:20] <F0o> ruff guess, patty
[15 Jan/18:20] <CJ^> yes foo  there is
[15 Jan/18:20] <kickboxer> kind of a catch-22 though with 98 sometimes :)
[15 Jan/18:20] <kickboxer> ok, just wondering, thanks anyway though
[15 Jan/18:20] <kickboxer> :)
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[15 Jan/18:21] <kickboxer> then perhaps someone would have insight as to why my USB optical intellieye would start to cause the cursor to track slowly across the screen.. as if its sampling rate had been turned WAAAY down from the 125 hz that is USB..
[15 Jan/18:21] <Los-Guy> [20:59] <Big`Ed> [20:45] <AR-15> (underneith) 210B65602807 40175000               r:2
[15 Jan/18:21] <Los-Guy> [20:59] <Big`Ed> [20:45] <CJ^> 6560
[15 Jan/18:22] <Los-Guy> is that what your looking for CJ^?
[15 Jan/18:23] <F0o> kickboxer: uhmm, well maybe your table was on a lean :)
[15 Jan/18:24] * Los-Guy has not used one kickboxer try searching at deja.com ..see if someone else has had your problem
[15 Jan/18:24] <Los-Guy> or the ms kb
[15 Jan/18:25] <CJ^> gawd  alot of lagg here ppl...
[15 Jan/18:25] <CJ^> im seeing Los from last week...
[15 Jan/18:25] <Los-Guy> hehe
[15 Jan/18:25] <CJ^> :P
[15 Jan/18:26] <CJ^> <<ÐêtóÑ8®>> Ping reply for Los-Guy: 345 Sec
[15 Jan/18:26] <F0o> don't worry I am seeing thing from 1709 :)
[15 Jan/18:26] <Los-Guy> ouch
[15 Jan/18:26] <F0o> year that is
[15 Jan/18:27] <kickboxer> least that isn't a quake ping ;)
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[15 Jan/18:27] <Los-Guy> hmm CJ^ I think it is on your end
[15 Jan/18:27] <CJ^> wb Ed
[15 Jan/18:27] <Los-Guy> most are pinging ok for me
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[15 Jan/18:28] * LosGuy does notice the ping floods from Ed and CJ^ though
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[15 Jan/18:28] <CJ^> yeah
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[15 Jan/18:29] <Los-Guy> hi jet
[15 Jan/18:29] <jet350> hey los
[15 Jan/18:29] <Big`Ed> hi jet
[15 Jan/18:30] <kickboxer> ok..
[15 Jan/18:30] <kickboxer> thanks
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[15 Jan/18:30] <Cursed_D> How do I find my true IP while on a cable modem?
[15 Jan/18:30] <jet350> ehy Big ED
[15 Jan/18:31] <Los-Guy> Cursed_D run winipcfg
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[15 Jan/18:31] <KALIK> hello folks
[15 Jan/18:31] <CJ^> yeah
[15 Jan/18:31] <CJ^> !eb
[15 Jan/18:31] <KALIK> can anyone answer me a question?
[15 Jan/18:31] <CJ^> hey  is it me
[15 Jan/18:31] <CJ^> or is everyone laggin like heck...
[15 Jan/18:31] <KALIK> CJ?
[15 Jan/18:31] <KALIK> waht the hell are you doing in here?
[15 Jan/18:31] <KALIK> lol
[15 Jan/18:31] <KALIK> that's weird man
[15 Jan/18:31] <CJ^> er no
[15 Jan/18:31] <CJ^> im an op here
[15 Jan/18:31] <Los-Guy> its you CJ^
[15 Jan/18:31] <KALIK> i had no idea
[15 Jan/18:31] <KALIK> i just guessed a channel name
[15 Jan/18:31] <KALIK> didn't evne know this existed
[15 Jan/18:31] <CJ^> `op
[15 Jan/18:31] @ mode #win98 [+o CJ^] by Athena!itsnotme@ppp35.US-GOVT.org
[15 Jan/18:31] <KALIK> ok then..
[15 Jan/18:31] <KALIK> how can I disable my modem so it doesn't answer the phone?
[15 Jan/18:31] <KALIK> like...if I have to share a voice line?
[15 Jan/18:31] <KALIK> dial out only
[15 Jan/18:31] <Cursed_D> not giving me rite one wid winipcfg
[15 Jan/18:32] <CJ^> it shoudl only pick up if its set to do that actually..
[15 Jan/18:32] <Los-Guy> Cursed_D look for the drop down box
[15 Jan/18:32] <KALIK> well....how do I *un* set it :-)
[15 Jan/18:32] <KALIK> I can't find it anywhere
[15 Jan/18:32] <KALIK> I need the hayes command or something
[15 Jan/18:32] <CJ^> naah
[15 Jan/18:33] <KALIK> i can't find the optioin anywhere
[15 Jan/18:33] <KALIK> where is the option to disable my modem from answering?
[15 Jan/18:33] <CJ^> under the modem properties usually..
[15 Jan/18:33] <CJ^> but im looking soem stuff up]
[15 Jan/18:33] <CJ^> what brand modem ya got?
[15 Jan/18:33] <KALIK> toshiba internal
[15 Jan/18:33] <KALIK> It's a laptop
[15 Jan/18:33] <CJ^> ahhh
[15 Jan/18:33] <KALIK> nothing under there about answering calls that I can find
[15 Jan/18:33] <CJ^> it may be a wake on lan type...
[15 Jan/18:33] <CJ^> that may be part of it...
[15 Jan/18:34] <CJ^> or wake on ring rather...
[15 Jan/18:34] <KALIK> oh...figured
[15 Jan/18:34] <jet350> are the pings ok now?
[15 Jan/18:34] <Big`Ed> winipcfg
[15 Jan/18:34] <Big`Ed> start-run-
[15 Jan/18:34] <KALIK> that's why I was wondering if there was a string I could put in
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[15 Jan/18:34] <CJ^> way better Jet
[15 Jan/18:35] <jet350> I still seem to be missing??
[15 Jan/18:35] <KALIK> guess not
[15 Jan/18:35] <LosGuy> I see ya jet350
[15 Jan/18:35] <CJ^> 28 secs to you jet
[15 Jan/18:35] <LosGuy>  <<ÐêtóÑ8®>> Ping reply for jet350: 2 Sec
[15 Jan/18:36] <jet350> thanks los
[15 Jan/18:36] <CJ^> Kalik.. what model toshiba??
[15 Jan/18:36] <CJ^> or  is it a PCMCIA card?/
[15 Jan/18:36] <jet350> bit slow to you CJ,thanks
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[15 Jan/18:36] <KALIK> toshiba 500CDT, not it's not a card, it's a internal modem the size of about...well it's about the size of 5 stacked dimes :-)
[15 Jan/18:36] <CJ^> heh
[15 Jan/18:36] <CJ^> yeah
[15 Jan/18:36] <CJ^> ok
[15 Jan/18:37] <KALIK> although it does have the slot for a new card, I have a lan card in that one
[15 Jan/18:37] <KALIK> well it has a spare, but...why buy a new modem there's no poinit
[15 Jan/18:37] <CJ^> well i think the wake on ring feature is in the BIOS...
[15 Jan/18:37] <Big`Ed> <LósGüyPB&J>> Ping reply for CJ^: 14 Sec
[15 Jan/18:37] <Big`Ed> [CJ^ PING reply]: 14 secs
[15 Jan/18:37] <KALIK> just kinda sucks I have to pull the cord out when I'm off line :-)
[15 Jan/18:37] <KALIK> is there any easy way to fix it?
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[15 Jan/18:37] <LosGuy> [CJ^ PING reply]: 32 secs
[15 Jan/18:38] <CJ^> check in teh bios
[15 Jan/18:38] <KALIK> I don't think I can mess with the bios on it too much
[15 Jan/18:38] <CJ^> i think you have to shut off wake on ring...
[15 Jan/18:38] <KALIK> ok
[15 Jan/18:38] <KALIK> yeah I am sure there is an option somewhere
[15 Jan/18:38] <KALIK> better try the manual (dammit)
[15 Jan/18:38] <KALIK> last resort :-)
[15 Jan/18:38] <Big`Ed> no cussing
[15 Jan/18:38] <CJ^> yeah cause normally  the modem doesnt answer.. unless its set that way...
[15 Jan/18:38] <CJ^> normally...
[15 Jan/18:38] <KALIK> nobody reads that shit
[15 Jan/18:38] <KALIK> hehe
[15 Jan/18:38] <KALIK> yeah I know...
[15 Jan/18:38] <KALIK> like on desktops
[15 Jan/18:38] <KALIK> it does't answer unless you tell it to
[15 Jan/18:39] <KALIK> mine seems to be the default
[15 Jan/18:39] <Los-Guy> KALIK no cussing
[15 Jan/18:39] <KALIK> answer after one ring
[15 Jan/18:39] <KALIK> oh sorry
[15 Jan/18:39] <KALIK> ok thanks I'm gone sorry for cussin' later folks
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[15 Jan/18:56] <Los-Guy> hi cwoods
[15 Jan/18:57] <cwoods> hey Los-Guy, you guys get Patty's boot floppy problem fixed?
[15 Jan/18:57] <Los-Guy> no 
[15 Jan/18:57] <Los-Guy> she was back a short while ago though
[15 Jan/18:57] <cwoods> to bad
[15 Jan/18:57] <Los-Guy> can only do so much over the internet
[15 Jan/18:57] <lippy> i installed win98 tonite but i cant detect my modem..why?
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[15 Jan/18:58] <Big`Ed> hmmm
[15 Jan/18:58] <Los-Guy> lippy any conflicts or unknown devices in control panel / system?
[15 Jan/18:58] <Big`Ed> lippy did you look to see what else is detected?
[15 Jan/18:58] <Big`Ed> yea - what he says
[15 Jan/18:58] <lippy> looking..hold on
[15 Jan/18:59] <lippy> doesnt appear to be..theres no modem in there
[15 Jan/18:59] <CJ^> then have win98 manuall detect it
[15 Jan/18:59] <Big`Ed> in control panel - system - is there any device with a ?
[15 Jan/18:59] <Big`Ed> or a !
[15 Jan/18:59] <Big`Ed> or listed as unknown?
[15 Jan/18:59] <CJ^> open up modem properties in control panel...
[15 Jan/19:00] <lippy> k
[15 Jan/19:01] <CJ^> or  do you know what brand of modem ya got?
[15 Jan/19:01] <lippy> when i click on modem..its gona try to install one
[15 Jan/19:01] <Big`Ed> aka none detected
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[15 Jan/19:01] <lippy> right
[15 Jan/19:01] <Big`Ed> hola sir osbourne
[15 Jan/19:01] <lippy> i have the drivers in C:\temp but i cant find my floppy
[15 Jan/19:02] <CJ^> lippy...  is it a PCI modem???
[15 Jan/19:02] <lippy> let me type off the box
[15 Jan/19:02] ! Los-Guy is known as LosSG1
[15 Jan/19:02] <CJ^> ACK SG1 is on!!!!!
[15 Jan/19:02] <lippy> AOpenFM56-ITU/2
[15 Jan/19:02] <osbourne> howdy ed and da man (c)
[15 Jan/19:02] <CJ^> lippy  its a PCI modem?
[15 Jan/19:02] <CJ^> hmm...
[15 Jan/19:03] <CJ^> try AOpens site
[15 Jan/19:03] <lippy> i did..and got the driver..its in the puter
[15 Jan/19:03] <LosSG1> oh Ed gets greeted twice by mr osbourne
[15 Jan/19:03] <CJ^> right  but they have a HOW to at the site too
[15 Jan/19:03] <Big`Ed> so - proceed
[15 Jan/19:03] <lippy> oh i didnt know that cuz a friend got it for me
[15 Jan/19:03] * Big`Ed dares not be insulted by DaMan
[15 Jan/19:04] <Big`Ed> SirLos is NEVER wrong - cuz - he is the true DaMan
[15 Jan/19:04] <CJ^> lippy ifits a PCI mode.. there may be an UNKNOWN device in the dev manager..
[15 Jan/19:04] <osbourne> pfft, we all know what da man is here los
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[15 Jan/19:05] <LosSG1> pfft is right
[15 Jan/19:05] <devilDigg> cj you there?
[15 Jan/19:05] <Big`Ed> wb  devilDigg
[15 Jan/19:05] <devilDigg> thanks, hi all
[15 Jan/19:05] <CJ^> yes
[15 Jan/19:05] <Azmodan> hi devilDigg 
[15 Jan/19:06] <devilDigg> well i was going to ask you something but i forgot :(
[15 Jan/19:06] <Big`Ed> ugh - nother reboot
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[15 Jan/19:06] <Big`Ed> nite all
[15 Jan/19:06] <devilDigg> bye ed
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[15 Jan/19:07] <cwoods> LosGuy <- still running at 91f  (4.5x112)
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[15 Jan/19:07] <LosSG1> kewl cwoods
[15 Jan/19:07] <MindRape> anyone know how to set up newsgroups on Netscape 4.7?
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[15 Jan/19:08] <LosSG1> MindRape get agent
[15 Jan/19:08] <LosSG1> or free agent
[15 Jan/19:08] <CJ^> http://english.aopen.com/tech/faq/modem/nonpnp.htm  <<< lippy
[15 Jan/19:08] <LosSG1> much better
[15 Jan/19:08] <MindRape> okie dokie, thanx
[15 Jan/19:08] <devilDigg> oh yeah, CJ^ how can i set lilo to boot up to another partition? (to boot up to my win98 partition)
[15 Jan/19:08] <devilDigg> ?
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[15 Jan/19:08] <CJ^> dd
[15 Jan/19:09] <CJ^> you add it to lilo...
[15 Jan/19:09] <CJ^> RH  or mandrake shoudl see that in there already....
[15 Jan/19:09] <devilDigg> i mean i already have it booting
[15 Jan/19:09] <devilDigg> but i dont want to have to type dos
[15 Jan/19:09] <CJ^> ok..
[15 Jan/19:09] <CJ^> look in the lilo.conf
[15 Jan/19:09] <devilDigg> ok
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[15 Jan/19:10] <LosSG1> or RUN linuxconf
[15 Jan/19:10] <CJ^> yeap
[15 Jan/19:10] <CJ^> linuxconf can do it too
[15 Jan/19:10] <CJ^> run linuxconf as ROOT
[15 Jan/19:10] <LosSG1> heck just run lilo
[15 Jan/19:10] <devilDigg> tell me im writing it down, (i got another modem, going to find out if its linux compatible)
[15 Jan/19:10] <devilDigg> it HAS jumpers, and is ISA
[15 Jan/19:11] <CJ^> then it wil work
[15 Jan/19:11] <CJ^> set it to COM 3  IRQ 4
[15 Jan/19:11] <CJ^> and shut off the internal COM ports
[15 Jan/19:11] * devilDigg will run lilo and then if nothing ill try linuxconfig
[15 Jan/19:11] <CJ^> lilo -v
[15 Jan/19:11] * devilDigg doesnt know how to do that :(
[15 Jan/19:11] <CJ^> dd
[15 Jan/19:11] <CJ^> go in the BIOS
[15 Jan/19:11] <CJ^> look for the com ports
[15 Jan/19:11] <devilDigg> ok
[15 Jan/19:11] <CJ^> serial ports
[15 Jan/19:11] <CJ^> and disable them
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[15 Jan/19:12] <devilDigg> com & serial, or com or serial?
[15 Jan/19:12] <CJ^> com or serail
[15 Jan/19:12] <CJ^> they are the same thing
[15 Jan/19:12] <devilDigg> ok
[15 Jan/19:13] <crusty55> Hi, if anyone can help.. please, I just bought the win98 cd and i am trying to upgrade win 95... but it says i need the win 98 upgrade cd, is there any way around this?????????//
[15 Jan/19:13] <CJ^> no crusty
[15 Jan/19:13] <CJ^> you bought an OEM cd  correct?
[15 Jan/19:13] <crusty55> correct
[15 Jan/19:14] <CJ^> and it clearly says  for PC's without Windows 
[15 Jan/19:14] <CJ^> right on the CD
[15 Jan/19:14] <crusty55> what if I put the #2 drive as #1 and booted of a disk
[15 Jan/19:14] <CJ^> crusty  that cd is for clean win98 installs only
[15 Jan/19:14] <crusty55> sorry but I had my mom buy it
[15 Jan/19:15] <devilDigg> crusty back up all ur most valuable data, and then format and install win98
[15 Jan/19:15] <CJ^> yeap
[15 Jan/19:15] <CJ^> well  crusty  the only way you can legally buy that is if you get a new hard drive 
[15 Jan/19:15] <CJ^> or a motherboard  or build a computer system
[15 Jan/19:15] <crusty55> what about the hard drive idea.. I got a new motherboard and cpu
[15 Jan/19:16] <crusty55> and vid card and sound card
[15 Jan/19:16] <CJ^> right..
[15 Jan/19:16] <CJ^> thast hwo you get that CD
[15 Jan/19:16] <CJ^> all you can do is back up your data..
[15 Jan/19:16] <CJ^> and install win98
[15 Jan/19:16] <CJ^> thats the only legal way
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[15 Jan/19:16] <CJ^> and no msgs crusty
[15 Jan/19:17] <CJ^> strike 2
[15 Jan/19:17] <CJ^> no msgs
[15 Jan/19:17] <LosSG1> hehe
[15 Jan/19:17] <crusty55> alright
[15 Jan/19:17] <CJ^> ask in channel...
[15 Jan/19:17] <crusty55> is there an easier non legal way??
[15 Jan/19:17] <crusty55> sure
[15 Jan/19:17] <CJ^> no
[15 Jan/19:17] <CJ^> crussty
[15 Jan/19:17] <devilDigg> crusty dont push your luck
[15 Jan/19:17] <CJ^> ask again and get kicked...
[15 Jan/19:17] <LosSG1> non legal? we dont do that here
[15 Jan/19:17] <crusty55> well.. why d he say that then?
[15 Jan/19:17] <CJ^> read the topic
[15 Jan/19:18] <CJ^> i did say that crusty
[15 Jan/19:18] <CJ^> i said the only legal way is to clean install...
[15 Jan/19:18] <crusty55> alright, thankyou for your help
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[15 Jan/19:19] <dk4mlz> can anyone tell me of any internet sharing software thats free and easy to setup other than 98se's?
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[15 Jan/19:19] <devilDigg> sorry pressed the wrong button..
[15 Jan/19:19] <CJ^> dk  there are plenty of demos and sharware..
[15 Jan/19:20] <CJ^> the only free one.. totally free.....  hehe linux...
[15 Jan/19:20] <CJ^> other than that..
[15 Jan/19:20] <LosSG1> linux..but not easy to set up
[15 Jan/19:20] <CJ^> try a search
[15 Jan/19:20] <CJ^> for NAT  on teh net
[15 Jan/19:20] <devilDigg> believe me its not
[15 Jan/19:20] * devilDigg is just getting the hang of it, and i've got a week on that :P
[15 Jan/19:20] <LosSG1> hehe
[15 Jan/19:20] <devilDigg> but cj at least i installed my sound, graphics, still havent installed glide though..
[15 Jan/19:21] <CJ^> GLX dd
[15 Jan/19:21] <CJ^> the MESA libs
[15 Jan/19:21] <CJ^> aint hard for 3dfx cards really..
[15 Jan/19:21] <devilDigg> i hope it wont be
[15 Jan/19:21] <CJ^> just follow the instructions to the T...
[15 Jan/19:21] <CJ^> well get the modem workig first in windows...
[15 Jan/19:21] <devilDigg> ill worry about that after i have IRC in linux
[15 Jan/19:21] <CJ^> once it works in windows...
[15 Jan/19:21] <CJ^> it will work in Linux..
[15 Jan/19:22] <devilDigg> it does work in windows
[15 Jan/19:22] <CJ^> as long as ya dont use PnP
[15 Jan/19:22] <devilDigg> no, it needs its drivers to work 
[15 Jan/19:22] <CJ^> well  look for it at boot up in linux....
[15 Jan/19:22] <CJ^> what drivers???
[15 Jan/19:22] <CJ^> if linux sees it... it will work...
[15 Jan/19:22] <CJ^> dev/ttyS <<<
[15 Jan/19:22] <CJ^> what com port do you have it set on?
[15 Jan/19:23] <devilDigg> i still havent restarted or installed it yet
[15 Jan/19:23] <CJ^> ok
[15 Jan/19:23] <CJ^> do so...
[15 Jan/19:23] <CJ^> once its up and running on a com port.. then get back here...
[15 Jan/19:23] <devilDigg> ok, also, im going to teh modem compatibility list (its outside) so i can compare model numbers
[15 Jan/19:23] <devilDigg> ok
[15 Jan/19:24] <lippy> well, i just looked thru the notes and other than being a programmer and adding strings i dont know :(
[15 Jan/19:24] <CJ^> lippy...  i gave ya the URL
[15 Jan/19:24] <lippy> i looked
[15 Jan/19:24] <CJ^> http://english.aopen.com/tech/faq/modem/nonpnp.htm   <<< right there
[15 Jan/19:24] <lippy> i downloaded the notebook :)
[15 Jan/19:25] <CJ^> tells ya how to set it up in win9x
[15 Jan/19:25] <lippy> i got it :)
[15 Jan/19:25] <CJ^> ok..so...
[15 Jan/19:25] <devilDigg> it works!!!!
[15 Jan/19:25] <devilDigg> i saw it
[15 Jan/19:25] <devilDigg> it works in linux
[15 Jan/19:25] <CJ^> ok dd...
[15 Jan/19:26] <CJ^> now..
[15 Jan/19:26] <CJ^> once in linux
[15 Jan/19:26] <LosSG1> hey cheer up
[15 Jan/19:26] <CJ^> as root do this...
[15 Jan/19:26] <LosSG1> :P
[15 Jan/19:26] <CJ^> well what com port first???
[15 Jan/19:27] <devilDigg> you want me to disable all com ports from bios?
[15 Jan/19:27] <CJ^> well you dont have to..
[15 Jan/19:27] <CJ^> i just do it to avoide conflicts
[15 Jan/19:27] <devilDigg> oh
[15 Jan/19:27] <CJ^> yeah
[15 Jan/19:27] <devilDigg> oh, because i would also like to have the com ports open to windows
[15 Jan/19:28] <CJ^> you have a serial mouse??
[15 Jan/19:28] <devilDigg> yes
[15 Jan/19:28] <CJ^> ok
[15 Jan/19:28] <devilDigg> err no
[15 Jan/19:28] <devilDigg> ps/2
[15 Jan/19:28] <CJ^> on
[15 Jan/19:28] <CJ^> er oh
[15 Jan/19:28] <CJ^> ok
[15 Jan/19:28] <CJ^> the disable them...
[15 Jan/19:28] <CJ^> if the modem is on COM 3  disable com 1
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[15 Jan/19:28] <devilDigg> hi walkndude
[15 Jan/19:29] <walkndude> hi
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[15 Jan/19:29] <devilDigg> ok, when the modem installs in windows its in com3
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[15 Jan/19:29] <CJ^> ok  kewls..
[15 Jan/19:30] <CJ^> IRQ what?  4?
[15 Jan/19:30] * cwoods loves GTE
[15 Jan/19:30] <LosSG1> hah
[15 Jan/19:30] <devilDigg> no i think its 5
[15 Jan/19:30] <cwoods> lol
[15 Jan/19:30] <CJ^> hmm...
[15 Jan/19:30] <CJ^> ok..
[15 Jan/19:30] <CJ^> try it under linux then...
[15 Jan/19:31] <CJ^> you may have an issue with the sound card though...:P
[15 Jan/19:31] <CJ^> so  thats why i set it to com 3 irq 4
[15 Jan/19:31] <CJ^> and disable com 1
[15 Jan/19:31] <devilDigg> oh
[15 Jan/19:31] <CJ^> well actually both com ports..
[15 Jan/19:31] <CJ^> just to be safe from conflicts
[15 Jan/19:31] <devilDigg> um so ill disable com1 and com2 from bios
[15 Jan/19:31] <CJ^> right
[15 Jan/19:31] <CJ^> and set teh modem to com3 irq 4..
[15 Jan/19:31] <CJ^> just to avoide the sound card conflict
[15 Jan/19:31] <devilDigg> then how do i install the modem, i know in isntalling it i set its com port and irq
[15 Jan/19:32] <CJ^> no
[15 Jan/19:32] <CJ^> ya dont have to do that under linux actually..
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[15 Jan/19:32] <CJ^> once its set right..
[15 Jan/19:32] <CJ^> ya do this..
[15 Jan/19:32] <CJ^> setserial /dev/ttyS2
[15 Jan/19:32] <CJ^> then  ln -s /dev/ttyS2 /dev/modem
[15 Jan/19:33] <CJ^> that makes a link from dev/ttyS2  <<< physical modem   to /dev/modem  << soft location of the modem...
[15 Jan/19:33] <devilDigg> oh so its like mounting the modem
[15 Jan/19:33] <CJ^> er  no
[15 Jan/19:33] <devilDigg> ok forget i said that
[15 Jan/19:33] <devilDigg> ok and then what do i do to like connect?
[15 Jan/19:34] <LosSG1> hmm isnt tty stuff old and not recommended anymore?
[15 Jan/19:34] <CJ^> the /dev/modem?
[15 Jan/19:34] <CJ^> ahh he doesnt HAVE to do it...
[15 Jan/19:34] <devilDigg> also i use red and netzero and aol, but i dont think any of them are linux compatible
[15 Jan/19:34] <CJ^> still works though
[15 Jan/19:35] + Azmodan is off to watch vids
[15 Jan/19:35] <CJ^> aol and netzero arent...
[15 Jan/19:35] <Azmodan> nite guys
[15 Jan/19:35] <CJ^> not right now they arent...
[15 Jan/19:35] <devilDigg> red is?
[15 Jan/19:35] <cwoods> nite Azmodan
[15 Jan/19:35] <LosSG1> c ya az
[15 Jan/19:35] <devilDigg> red uses dial up networking, ppp, microsoft compression, tcp/ip
[15 Jan/19:36] <walkndude> later AZ
[15 Jan/19:36] <devilDigg> hi az
[15 Jan/19:36] <devilDigg> err: bye az
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[15 Jan/19:36] <oneforall>  Hey whats a good program to test your mother board etc . ?
[15 Jan/19:36] <devilDigg> hi oneforall
[15 Jan/19:37] <oneforall> hey sup
[15 Jan/19:37] <devilDigg> ok but you still havent answered my ?stion, how would i connect to my isp?
[15 Jan/19:37] <CJ^> dd  supposedly you can so the netzero thing..
[15 Jan/19:37] <CJ^> so.
[15 Jan/19:37] <walkndude> there's a lot of them..the best is to just run it for a while
[15 Jan/19:37] <CJ^> you may have to get eh DNS and domain
[15 Jan/19:37] <devilDigg> i can so the netzero thing?
[15 Jan/19:38] <devilDigg> my main isp is red, www.redconnect.net
[15 Jan/19:38] <CJ^> well.. is that free??
[15 Jan/19:38] <CJ^> or pay?
[15 Jan/19:38] <devilDigg> red is pay
[15 Jan/19:38] <CJ^> i mean  is it a normal ISP?
[15 Jan/19:38] <devilDigg> 8$ a month
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[15 Jan/22:35] <sleeper> thanks 
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[15 Jan/22:41] <Los`Guy> `say
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[15 Jan/22:42] <Bigs> say wot
[15 Jan/22:42] <Los`Guy> `say Hi Bigs
[15 Jan/22:42] <Aphrodite> Hi Bigs
[15 Jan/22:42] <Athena> Hi Bigs
[15 Jan/22:42] <Vulcan> Hi Bigs
[15 Jan/22:42] <Vulcan_> Hi Bigs
[15 Jan/22:42] <Proteus> Hi Bigs
[15 Jan/22:42] <Zeus_> Hi Bigs
[15 Jan/22:42] <Zeus> Hi Bigs
[15 Jan/22:42] <Bigs> ha
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[15 Jan/22:45] <Bigs> bot world
[15 Jan/22:45] <Los`Guy> yeah
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[15 Jan/22:48] <Azza> `say
[15 Jan/22:48] <Bigs> say wot
[15 Jan/22:48] <Aphrodite> wot
[15 Jan/22:48] <Vulcan> wot
[15 Jan/22:48] <Vulcan_> wot
[15 Jan/22:48] <Proteus> wot
[15 Jan/22:48] <Zeus_> wot
[15 Jan/22:48] <Bigs> dear oh dear
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[15 Jan/22:49] <Sale_face> Can somebody tell me if it is necessere to reformat my HD to go from win95 to win98?
[15 Jan/22:49] <Los`Guy> Sale_face no
[15 Jan/22:49] <CJ^> no.. as long as you have the win98 upgrade
[15 Jan/22:49] <Los`Guy> IF you have the upgrade or full retail version
[15 Jan/22:49] <CJ^> right
[15 Jan/22:49] <Sale_face> full retail version
[15 Jan/22:50] <Los`Guy> if you have OEM it will not work
[15 Jan/22:50] <Sale_face> what must I do then
[15 Jan/22:50] <Sale_face> reformat?
[15 Jan/22:50] <CJ^> drop the cd in
[15 Jan/22:50] <CJ^> and start the install
[15 Jan/22:50] <Sale_face> it will erase the old version?
[15 Jan/22:50] <CJ^> no
[15 Jan/22:50] <CJ^> it will upgrade it to win98
[15 Jan/22:50] <CJ^> thats what an upgrade does..
[15 Jan/22:51] <Sale_face> and if I have the Full retail Version?
[15 Jan/22:51] <CJ^> thats what you need
[15 Jan/22:51] <CJ^> full retail  or the upgrade version
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[15 Jan/22:51] <CJ^> either one will upgrade win95 to win98
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[15 Jan/22:51] <CJ^> the OEM will not  as Los said
[15 Jan/22:51] <Sale_face> not at all!
[15 Jan/22:52] <CJ^> no
[15 Jan/22:52] <CJ^> but  why are ya worried  you have the full retail version..
[15 Jan/22:52] <CJ^> ya said so  right?
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[15 Jan/22:52] <CJ^> full retail boxed version...
[15 Jan/22:52] <Bigs> ist time i upgraded from 95 to 98...few things didnt work, like fast shutdown
[15 Jan/22:52] <Sale_face> I have win95 now... A shit load of thing on my HD and I dont want to reformat...
[15 Jan/22:52] <Bigs> clean install works just fine from full version
[15 Jan/22:52] <CJ^> no cussin
[15 Jan/22:53] <CJ^> Sale  do you have the full retail boxed win98 form the store?
[15 Jan/22:53] <Bigs> you can get rid of 95 without reformatting
[15 Jan/22:53] <CJ^> or do you just have a cd?
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[15 Jan/22:53] <Sale_face> yes
[15 Jan/22:53] <CJ^> then just drop the cd in
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[15 Jan/22:53] <CJ^> win98 setup will begin
[15 Jan/22:54] <Sale_face> even if it not the uprgrade
[15 Jan/22:54] <CJ^> yes
[15 Jan/22:54] <CJ^> we told ya this three times
[15 Jan/22:54] <Sale_face> thanks
[15 Jan/22:54] <Sale_face> sorry ;0)
[15 Jan/22:54] <Sale_face> want to make sure...
[15 Jan/22:54] <CJ^> full retail or upgrade will upgrade win95 to win98
[15 Jan/22:56] <Los`Guy> why get the full retail if you have win95?
[15 Jan/22:56] <Los`Guy> it is muchmore expensive
[15 Jan/22:56] <CJ^> yeah.
[15 Jan/22:56] <CJ^> upgrade is much cheaper...
[15 Jan/22:56] <Bigs> ya get to keep all the old 95 registry clutter tho with the upgrade
[15 Jan/22:56] <CJ^> and can still do a clean install later if things get messed up..
[15 Jan/22:57] <Sale_face> Is it hard?
[15 Jan/22:57] <CJ^> what the upgrade?
[15 Jan/22:57] <CJ^> no
[15 Jan/22:57] <Sale_face> will every thing be plug and play like?
[15 Jan/22:57] <CJ^> just pull the cd outtsa the case
[15 Jan/22:58] <CJ^> opne the cdrom drive
[15 Jan/22:58] <Sale_face> :0)
[15 Jan/22:58] <CJ^> drop the cd in
[15 Jan/22:58] <CJ^> and follow the on screen instructions..
[15 Jan/22:58] <Sale_face> I get th epicture thanks...
[15 Jan/23:00] <Sale_face> thanks all
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[15 Jan/23:03] <__Crimson> hello all anyone here?
[15 Jan/23:03] <Azmodan> hi Crimson
[15 Jan/23:03] <CJ^> think so
[15 Jan/23:03] <__Crimson> i was wondering if someone could help me out real quick?
[15 Jan/23:04] <__Crimson> im werking on a machine here, win98 and its having trouble booting up, it will boot into safe mode ok, but when i try to boot up normal it freezes about 2 seconds into the spash screen, any ideas?
[15 Jan/23:04] <__Crimson> er splash, sorry.. heh
[15 Jan/23:05] <CJ^> install new drivers lately??
[15 Jan/23:05] <__Crimson> i ran scandisk in safemode, no errors, regfix, system file checker...
[15 Jan/23:05] <Bigs> ya done anything recently to it?
[15 Jan/23:05] <Bigs> anything in yer autoexec etc?
[15 Jan/23:05] <__Crimson> well i was trying to get the onboard video disabled and a voodoo 3 card werking but it didnt werk, i went into device manager and removed both video drivers....
[15 Jan/23:06] <__Crimson> no editing to my startup files tho.
[15 Jan/23:06] <__Crimson> it seems to be freezing too soon to be trying to redetect the video.
[15 Jan/23:07] <__Crimson> this is really odd.
[15 Jan/23:07] <CJ^> Crimson.. not really..
[15 Jan/23:07] <CJ^> its the BIOS.
[15 Jan/23:08] <CJ^> its setting teh on-board video to be default..
[15 Jan/23:08] <CJ^> and  Acer shoudl have the fix for it...
[15 Jan/23:08] <CJ^> although  i dont expcet emt o actualyl have it available..:PPP
[15 Jan/23:08] <__Crimson> cj, there isnt any settings in the bios for video, its like a lamer version of a bios on this acer.. not many settings at all
[15 Jan/23:09] <CJ^> well  this is the new bios ya flashed  right?
[15 Jan/23:10] <__Crimson> no i couldnt find a updated bios, so i didnt flash it.
[15 Jan/23:10] <CJ^> ok
[15 Jan/23:10] <CJ^> what model of Acer aspire?
[15 Jan/23:11] <__Crimson> 1816
[15 Jan/23:11] <CJ^> ok
[15 Jan/23:11] <CJ^> lemme hunt
[15 Jan/23:11] <__Crimson> cool thanks.
[15 Jan/23:14] <CJ^> ya messed with jumper JP7  correct?
[15 Jan/23:14] <__Crimson> yep,
[15 Jan/23:14] <CJ^> ok
[15 Jan/23:15] <CJ^> whats it set to now??
[15 Jan/23:15] <CJ^> disbaled?
[15 Jan/23:15] <__Crimson> i tried all settings with it. it seems to have no effect but i get no video with vga is enabled witch is wierd.
[15 Jan/23:15] * Cat`Woman remembers her aspire
[15 Jan/23:18] <CJ^> ok
[15 Jan/23:18] <CJ^> what is the system serial number???
[15 Jan/23:18] <CJ^> think i found something
[15 Jan/23:18] <__Crimson> ok just a sec.
[15 Jan/23:18] <CJ^> ftp.acer.com  hehe
[15 Jan/23:19] <__Crimson> p/n is 91.AB652D.02
[15 Jan/23:19] <__Crimson> s/n is 3600101375
[15 Jan/23:20] <CJ^> :P
[15 Jan/23:20] <CJ^> great
[15 Jan/23:20] <CJ^> 11 bios's listed..
[15 Jan/23:20] <CJ^> on 4 with descriptions
[15 Jan/23:20] <__Crimson> man i hate this feeling, when u cant get a machine to boot, and it isnt even mine, heh
[15 Jan/23:20] <CJ^> er only
[15 Jan/23:21] <__Crimson> 11 with 4 descriptions, heh
[15 Jan/23:21] <CJ^> yeah
[15 Jan/23:21] <CJ^> but im downloading onw now to take a look at it
[15 Jan/23:21] <__Crimson> ok great
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[15 Jan/23:22] <CJ^> yeah tell em about it...
[15 Jan/23:23] <CJ^> hmm
[15 Jan/23:23] <CJ^> lemem dig a little edeeper
[15 Jan/23:23] <CJ^> ii think i have the right onee  but i want to make sure
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[15 Jan/23:23] <__Crimson> ok
[15 Jan/23:23] <CJ^> where are you located??
[15 Jan/23:24] <__Crimson> im in fl.
[15 Jan/23:24] <CJ^> ok  US..
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[15 Jan/23:28] <CJ^> hmm rechekc that part number
[15 Jan/23:28] <CJ^> 91.AB386.T01, 91.AB386.T02, 91.AB386.T03,
[15 Jan/23:28] <CJ^>                                 91.AB386.T04, 91.AB386.T05
[15 Jan/23:28] <CJ^> i have those listed...
[15 Jan/23:29] <__Crimson> k
[15 Jan/23:29] <__Crimson> p/n is 91.AB652D.02 is this one
[15 Jan/23:31] <CJ^> hmmm
[15 Jan/23:31] <CJ^> that a correct PN  
[15 Jan/23:31] <CJ^> but it doesnt show on the site...:P
[15 Jan/23:31] <__Crimson> yep..
[15 Jan/23:31] <__Crimson> wierd.
[15 Jan/23:32] <CJ^> hmmm ok
[15 Jan/23:32] <CJ^> still digging
[15 Jan/23:32] <__Crimson> ok
[15 Jan/23:33] <CJ^> just a pentium  right?
[15 Jan/23:33] <CJ^> not a PII?
[15 Jan/23:33] <__Crimson> k6 300
[15 Jan/23:34] <CJ^> ok
[15 Jan/23:34] <CJ^> got it
[15 Jan/23:34] <CJ^> 91.AB652.D02
[15 Jan/23:34] <CJ^> 1816M
[15 Jan/23:34] <CJ^> 1816M
[15 Jan/23:34] <CJ^> supposedlty
[15 Jan/23:35] <__Crimson> yep thats it.
[15 Jan/23:36] <CJ^> ok
[15 Jan/23:36] <CJ^> Acer ya a BIOS listed.
[15 Jan/23:36] <CJ^> BUT  i dont know if its the one for yours or not
[15 Jan/23:36] <CJ^> its on the ftp site
[15 Jan/23:36] <__Crimson> ic...
[15 Jan/23:37] <CJ^> ftp.acer.com/acc_support/desktops/bios
[15 Jan/23:37] <__Crimson> v59la-2 is listed on the bios chip..
[15 Jan/23:37] <CJ^> now  the list a text with only 4 files
[15 Jan/23:37] <__Crimson> ok lemme chekc that out
[15 Jan/23:37] <CJ^> but there are more than that in the directory on that site...
[15 Jan/23:37] <CJ^> Email Tech support would know the right answer...
[15 Jan/23:39] <__Crimson> i mailed them earlier today with no response yet, and phone techs told me "i dont know" heh
[15 Jan/23:39] <CJ^> well i dont really like most phone techs..
[15 Jan/23:39] <CJ^> and that site is so lame..
[15 Jan/23:39] <CJ^> i mean.. no bios update links?? cmon
[15 Jan/23:39] <__Crimson> yeo
[15 Jan/23:40] <__Crimson> im not really worried about this voodoo card anymore, im just scared cuase i cant get it to boot with the onboard anymore!
[15 Jan/23:40] <CJ^> whose system is it???
[15 Jan/23:41] <__Crimson> its my brothers boss's sons
[15 Jan/23:41] <CJ^> ouch
[15 Jan/23:41] <__Crimson> yep
[15 Jan/23:43] <CJ^> hmm
[15 Jan/23:43] <__Crimson> it was wierd, i removed the display drivers from device manager rebooted, i got 2 seconds of the splash screen and freeze, i removed them before and didnt have a problem.
[15 Jan/23:43] <CJ^> i bet the Acer TW site has it..
[15 Jan/23:43] <CJ^> but...
[15 Jan/23:43] <CJ^> i dunno..
[15 Jan/23:43] <__Crimson> i can boot into safemode fine, but its not displaying any video driver at all in device manager.
[15 Jan/23:44] <CJ^> got the restore cd?
[15 Jan/23:44] <__Crimson> nope, all i have here is a generic 98se disk..
[15 Jan/23:45] <CJ^> hmm
[15 Jan/23:45] <CJ^> checking the acer UK site now...
[15 Jan/23:47] <__Crimson> also witch is wierd is in safemode, its saying the drives are in dos compatibiliy mode...
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[15 Jan/23:47] <Stephen> anybody here?
[15 Jan/23:47] <__Crimson> im here
[15 Jan/23:47] <Stephen> hey i have an odd question 
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[15 Jan/23:48] <Stephen> my win98 runs great 
[15 Jan/23:48] <CJ^> ok
[15 Jan/23:48] <Stephen> cept sometimes it doesnt boot it halts at dblbuff.sys
[15 Jan/23:48] <CJ^> yer fixed 
[15 Jan/23:48] <CJ^> NEXT
[15 Jan/23:48] <Stephen> what is dblbuff.sys for?
[15 Jan/23:48] <Los`Guy> LOL!
[15 Jan/23:48] <__Crimson> heh
[15 Jan/23:49] <Los`Guy> double buffering it sounds like
[15 Jan/23:49] <CJ^> http://support.aceruk.co.uk/fr_desktop.htm   << crimson  maybe there???
[15 Jan/23:49] <CJ^> Soul-Woun... no msgs
[15 Jan/23:49] <__Crimson> maybe lets try..
[15 Jan/23:49] <Soul-Woun> ohh...
[15 Jan/23:49] <CJ^> see topic
[15 Jan/23:49] <Stephen> cj what ya think?
[15 Jan/23:50] <Soul-Woun> ya i see it now...sorry...
[15 Jan/23:50] <__Crimson> hey maybe i could try disabling the onboard sound? right after is ini's the sound is when it freezes..
[15 Jan/23:50] <CJ^> might wanna try that ....
[15 Jan/23:50] <Stephen> no smart *ss comments about not thinking it hurts or its dangerous
[15 Jan/23:50] <__Crimson> i never messed with the sound tho, heh
[15 Jan/23:50] * Los`Guy knows that Soul-Woun should know..being that he is elysians friend :P
[15 Jan/23:50] <Stephen> crimson what problem u having?
[15 Jan/23:51] <CJ^> Stephen..
[15 Jan/23:51] <CJ^> run sfc?
[15 Jan/23:51] <CJ^> see if its corrupt
[15 Jan/23:51] <CJ^> replace if needed..
[15 Jan/23:51] <Soul-Woun> nah los i was only aware of warez part not of the msg part but oh well.....
[15 Jan/23:51] <__Crimson> windows wont boot, freeze after 2 seconds of splash screen, heh
[15 Jan/23:51] <Stephen> system file checker?
[15 Jan/23:51] <Stephen> hey crimson thats my problem !!!!!!
[15 Jan/23:51] <Stephen> heh
[15 Jan/23:51] <__Crimson> hey cj, im gonne go try to boot up the machine, ill be right back ok?
[15 Jan/23:51] <Stephen> what kinda motherboard u got?
[15 Jan/23:51] <__Crimson> lame acer.
[15 Jan/23:52] <Stephen> i just rebooted mine
[15 Jan/23:52] <Stephen> rofl
[15 Jan/23:52] <Stephen> locked
[15 Jan/23:52] <__Crimson> brb
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[15 Jan/23:52] <Stephen> cj does sfc really work?
[15 Jan/23:52] <CJ^> works when i need it too
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[15 Jan/23:53] <CJ^> if i think the file is corrupt and win98 dont
[15 Jan/23:53] <CJ^> ill replace it with sfc
[15 Jan/23:53] <CJ^> thats its function
[15 Jan/23:53] <Los`Guy> SFC can be very nice
[15 Jan/23:53] <Stephen> heh 
[15 Jan/23:53] <Los`Guy> if set up right for what you need
[15 Jan/23:53] <Stephen> if i step by step and skip dblbuff it boots
[15 Jan/23:53] <Stephen> roofl
[15 Jan/23:53] <Soul-Woun> hey cj but do ya have any clue of what i am talkin bout?
[15 Jan/23:54] <Stephen> msconfig is our friend!
[15 Jan/23:54] <CJ^> soul.. what question did you ask???
[15 Jan/23:54] <CJ^> cause i close msgs 
[15 Jan/23:54] <Stephen> i think i will do that cj
[15 Jan/23:54] <CJ^> i dont read em
[15 Jan/23:54] <Stephen> ./msg cj^ why dont you read them?? 
[15 Jan/23:54] <Stephen> heh 
[15 Jan/23:55] <Stephen> sorry scarcastic mood
[15 Jan/23:55] <CJ^> :P
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[15 Jan/23:55] <Soul-Woun> umm....it has to do with the "Restore" directory in millenium....elysian and i disabled/deleted it once...but today its back and i dont remember...
[15 Jan/23:55] <CJ^> soul
[15 Jan/23:55] <CJ^> we dont deal in Betas dude..
[15 Jan/23:56] <Stephen> cj is there a way to scan just dblbuff.sys ? or do i have to scan them all? 
[15 Jan/23:56] <CJ^> let it scan all..
[15 Jan/23:56] <CJ^> either that
[15 Jan/23:56] <CJ^> or just tell it to extract just that one file and replace it
[15 Jan/23:56] <Soul-Woun> ya thats what i thought thats why i didnt really wanna say nithing...but i dunno this place was like a last resort tonite....oh well...laterz ppl....
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[15 Jan/23:57] <CJ^> like I know anythign about that beta??????
[15 Jan/23:57] <CJ^> geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze
[15 Jan/23:57] <Stephen> heh i played with advanced server and prof
[15 Jan/23:57] <Stephen> havent seen mil yet
[15 Jan/23:58] <CJ^> diff beast:P
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[15 Jan/23:58] <Stephen> if you restore does it offer undo files?
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[15 Jan/23:58] <CJ^> hmm..
[15 Jan/23:59] <CJ^> think it may do a back up
[15 Jan/23:59] <Stephen> i have3 win98 all updated
[15 Jan/23:59] <CJ^> havent really needed to care
[15 Jan/23:59] <CJ^> i figure im replacing a win988 file with a known good win98 file
[15 Jan/23:59] <CJ^> er win98
[16 Jan/00:01] <Stephen> heh i think it just undid my updates
[16 Jan/00:01] <CJ^> it shoulnt
[16 Jan/00:01] <Stephen> heh welp i am rebooting now
[16 Jan/00:02] <Stephen> heh cool its booting
[16 Jan/00:02] * Stephen ponders making that ghost image now !
[16 Jan/00:03] <Stephen> ok thats one for sfc 
[16 Jan/00:03] <Stephen> thanks cj
[16 Jan/00:04] <CJ^> :P
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[16 Jan/00:16] <Stephen> heh just rebooted again same thiingg
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[16 Jan/17:34] <SenecaQ> My new PC with Win98SE will not shut down automatically despite downloding the fix from MS. Any ideas
[16 Jan/17:35] <Los`Guy> update your drivers
[16 Jan/17:35] <Los`Guy> the usual cause is a driver failing to unload
[16 Jan/17:35] <CJ^> or contact the maker of the PC....
[16 Jan/17:35] <Los`Guy> also check any programs that your running as TSR (ie your antivirus scanner)
[16 Jan/17:36] <SenecaQ> Which ones? PC is brand ne clone. All the Windows updtaes.
[16 Jan/17:36] <Los`Guy> I would start with my vid driver SenecaQ and go from there
[16 Jan/17:36] <SenecaQ> Even if I close all programs running in the background (except explorer and systray) it still does not shut down.
[16 Jan/17:37] <SenecaQ> Aha! Video driver, eh?
[16 Jan/17:37] <Los`Guy> I would try that first SenecaQ
[16 Jan/17:38] <Los`Guy> but heck if it is a new computer..I would take it back (As CJ^ said)
[16 Jan/17:38] <CJ^> yeap..
[16 Jan/17:39] <CJ^> but $100 says they tell you the same thing....  update teh drivers dude..
[16 Jan/17:39] <CJ^> unless you built it  or had it built locally
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[16 Jan/17:39] <SenecaQ> Pardon my persistence, and thank you for your patience, Los Guy... but tonight I tried downloading the updated driver for the Diamond Viper 770, an dit instructed me to set my display at Standard VGA and then install the new driver. My PC rebooted, I got to a DOS prompt, and heard windows loading behind it, but nothing! Had to reinstall all my drivers.
[16 Jan/17:40] <CJ^> SenecaQ  www.glsetup.com
[16 Jan/17:40] <CJ^> go tehre
[16 Jan/17:40] <CJ^> get the updated drivers for the video through that site...
[16 Jan/17:40] <CJ^> mucho better
[16 Jan/17:40] <SenecaQ> Thanks, CJ!I'll try it.
[16 Jan/17:41] <Los`Guy> they worked for me..but were not optimal drivers for me
[16 Jan/17:41] <CJ^> seems to rock for me..
[16 Jan/17:42] <Los`Guy> interestingly they did windows fine...but games looked rather poor
[16 Jan/17:43] <CJ^> ahh
[16 Jan/17:43] <CJ^> i dunno..
[16 Jan/17:43] <CJ^> i think it depends onteh card..
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[16 Jan/17:43] <CJ^> the Creative has been good to me.
[16 Jan/17:43] <CJ^> cant complain
[16 Jan/17:43] <Los`Guy> hehe
[16 Jan/17:43] <Los`Guy> well they did work
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[16 Jan/17:59] <`Muff`> 'lo all
[16 Jan/18:00] <Los`Guy> hi ya `Muff`
[16 Jan/18:01] <`Muff`> Hola Los
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[16 Jan/18:02] <Vtek> help
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[16 Jan/18:02] <`Muff`> Ask away vtek
[16 Jan/18:02] <Vtek> s there any service called the Internet Montoring Service?
[16 Jan/18:02] <`Muff`> For monitoring what, vtek?
[16 Jan/18:03] <Vtek> websites?
[16 Jan/18:03] <Vtek> wait..
[16 Jan/18:03] <Vtek> tell me if this message is a bogus or not..okay? ill display it...
[16 Jan/18:03] <CJ^> ya mean system monitor?
[16 Jan/18:03] <CJ^> its has a monitor for the dial up adapter...
[16 Jan/18:04] <Vtek> got it in email from the IMS...check if it is bogus or not okay?
[16 Jan/18:05] <`Muff`> vtek, I can almost verify it's bogus before you post it...
[16 Jan/18:05] <Vtek> okay...how?
[16 Jan/18:06] <`Muff`> Email offers usually are.  Are you looking for something to preload web pages?
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[16 Jan/18:06] <Los`Guy> do you find them referenced  on any search engine Vtek? (and what was this in regards to?)
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[16 Jan/18:07] <|DKMY|> hello
[16 Jan/18:07] <|DKMY|> moving wallpaper backgrounds for windows 95/98 ANyone ? pls let me know :) plz upload it to me at ravi.dynip.com l/p upload/upload port 2000
[16 Jan/18:07] <|DKMY|> i need it bad
[16 Jan/18:07] <Vtek> no
[16 Jan/18:07] <Vtek> no
[16 Jan/18:07] <|DKMY|> why not?
[16 Jan/18:07] <CJ^> ?
[16 Jan/18:07] <CJ^> what?
[16 Jan/18:07] <Los`Guy> leave now |DKMY| and avoid a kick ban
[16 Jan/18:07] <|DKMY|> why man?
[16 Jan/18:07] <|DKMY|> sorry
[16 Jan/18:07] <`Muff`> `op
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[16 Jan/18:07] <Vtek> i need to kno9w if there is a service called the IMS cause they sent me a email ..tell me if this is a prank or not..ill post it okay?
[16 Jan/18:08] <CJ^> who sent an email?
[16 Jan/18:08] <`Muff`> Don't flood, vtek.  o you have a web address for them?
[16 Jan/18:08] <Vtek> the IMS..ill post it okay?
[16 Jan/18:08] <`Muff`> Do even...
[16 Jan/18:08] <Vtek> no..
[16 Jan/18:08] <Vtek> its short man
[16 Jan/18:09] <Vtek> the email is short man.. a few lines
[16 Jan/18:09] <CJ^> just thee URL...
[16 Jan/18:09] <Vtek> no url dude...
[16 Jan/18:09] <Los`Guy> just paste it a few lines at a time
[16 Jan/18:09] <Vtek> okay..ready?
[16 Jan/18:10] <Vtek> We checked out all your websites and they were senseless!
[16 Jan/18:10] <Vtek> If you clutter up the web with junk like this we'll hit your computer with a deadly virus to paralyze you and your stupid computer!
[16 Jan/18:10] <Vtek> thas part one...
[16 Jan/18:10] <CJ^> who sent that????
[16 Jan/18:10] <Vtek> the IMS it says...
[16 Jan/18:10] <CJ^> the IMS?
[16 Jan/18:10] <Vtek> second part on route..hold
[16 Jan/18:10] <Vtek> We are the Internet monitoring society and we know who you are.
[16 Jan/18:10] <Vtek> We know everyone on the net. 
[16 Jan/18:10] <Vtek> We suggest you get rid of all your websites by the end of this month.
[16 Jan/18:10] <Vtek> Don't reply.
[16 Jan/18:10] <CJ^> what wqas the email addy that sent it??
[16 Jan/18:10] <Los`Guy> haha
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[16 Jan/18:11] <CJ^> Vtek.. whoever sent that  reply to their ISP if you can..
[16 Jan/18:11] <Vtek> IMS@internet.com
[16 Jan/18:11] <CJ^> or have your ISP track it down
[16 Jan/18:11] <Vtek> IMS@internet.com
[16 Jan/18:11] <CJ^> its bogus..
[16 Jan/18:11] <Vtek> last part...
[16 Jan/18:11] <`Muff`> Yeah, extremely bogus
[16 Jan/18:11] <CJ^> contact your ISP and have them handle that
[16 Jan/18:11] <Vtek> Tell all your little friends about this.
[16 Jan/18:11] <Vtek> Thank you for your cooperation.
[16 Jan/18:11] <Vtek> bogus huh..
[16 Jan/18:11] <Vtek> how do i kill this guy?
[16 Jan/18:11] <CJ^> its a wannabe hacker threat
[16 Jan/18:12] <CJ^> you contact YOUR isp  and have them handle it...
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[16 Jan/18:12] <Vtek> how do i show him whos boss?
[16 Jan/18:12] <Vtek> how can i do that?
[16 Jan/18:12] <CJ^> you contact YOUR isp  and have them handle it...
[16 Jan/18:12] <CJ^> you contact YOUR isp  and have them handle it...
[16 Jan/18:12] <CJ^> you contact YOUR isp  and have them handle it...
[16 Jan/18:12] <CJ^> do i have to say this again?/
[16 Jan/18:12] <`Muff`> vtek, you can probably forward that to abuse@(your ISP) 
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[16 Jan/18:12] <y2kdemon> I just dont get it, my scsi card WAS working, in the middle of a download it stopped working, so I went to CONTROL PANEL-SYSTEM, and deleted it out of there, and then restart windows and windows found it, and windows says my scsi card is working GOOD, but its not showing the drives, what could be wrong?
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[16 Jan/18:13] <Vtek> okay..
[16 Jan/18:13] <Vtek> u mean whaich part..?
[16 Jan/18:13] <`Muff`> Could be the card has failed, y2k.  Just because Windows says it's working doesn't mean it's so...
[16 Jan/18:14] <CJ^> Vtek all of it
[16 Jan/18:14] <CJ^> forward it to your ISP
[16 Jan/18:14] <CJ^> the whole email..
[16 Jan/18:14] <CJ^> call em..
[16 Jan/18:14] <Vtek> the text or the addy?
[16 Jan/18:14] <CJ^> and email them
[16 Jan/18:14] <CJ^> ALL of it
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[16 Jan/18:14] <CJ^> the whole email...
[16 Jan/18:14] <Vtek> okay...
[16 Jan/18:14] <y2kdemon> MUFF: yea, but it was working......how could that be
[16 Jan/18:14] <Vtek> but cant i do something myself?
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[16 Jan/18:15] <Vtek> but cant i do something myself?
[16 Jan/18:15] <Los`Guy> like what Vtek?
[16 Jan/18:15] <CJ^> Vtek not unless you really want to get into a flame war..
[16 Jan/18:15] <CJ^> or worse yet..
[16 Jan/18:15] <Los`Guy> sink to their level?
[16 Jan/18:15] <CJ^> get arrested
[16 Jan/18:16] <Vtek> okay...
[16 Jan/18:16] <Vtek> cool
[16 Jan/18:16] <`Muff`> y2k, it could have just failed... have you gone to the card's manufactur's website to get the newest drivers?
[16 Jan/18:16] <y2kdemon> MUFF: Its a ADAPTEC 1510 scsi card, I used the windows drivers that came with windows98 cd
[16 Jan/18:17] <CJ^> y2k  then update em...
[16 Jan/18:17] <`Muff`> y2k, try getting the newest drivers from Adaptec's website...
[16 Jan/18:17] <y2kdemon> MUFF: could you help?
[16 Jan/18:18] <CJ^> www.adaptec.com
[16 Jan/18:18] <Vtek> thank ppl
[16 Jan/18:18] <Los`Guy> y2kdemon driveS ? isnt the 1510 a single device card?
[16 Jan/18:18] <y2kdemon> But when I hooked my dat drive up, windows finds my dat drive, but it dont show me the drives
[16 Jan/18:19] <Vtek> thas ppl...catch you later...
[16 Jan/18:19] <y2kdemon> LOSGUY: I have a internal and external drive hooked to it
[16 Jan/18:19] <CJ^> http://www.adaptec.com/support/files/drivers.html#isa
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[16 Jan/18:19] <Los`Guy> win98 has drivers for that card
[16 Jan/18:19] <`Muff`> cya vtec
[16 Jan/18:19] <`Muff`> vtek even
[16 Jan/18:19] <Vtek> :)
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[16 Jan/18:19] <y2kdemon> LOS: Thats the one Im using! :)
[16 Jan/18:19] <y2kdemon> LOS: but they say to update them
[16 Jan/18:20] <`Muff`> `down
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[16 Jan/18:20] <`Muff`> brb, lease is up on that last beer...
[16 Jan/18:21] <Los`Guy> who is THEY? `Muff` and CJ^? ... they usually know what they are talking about
[16 Jan/18:21] <y2kdemon> MUFF: What is a scsi select utility?
[16 Jan/18:21] <Los`Guy> and I thought that the 1510 was for a single device only
[16 Jan/18:22] <CJ^> y2k  the SCSI select is the SCSi cards bios utility
[16 Jan/18:22] <y2kdemon> LOS: nope, has a hookup for a internal and external device
[16 Jan/18:22] <y2kdemon> CJ: so what it do?
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[16 Jan/18:22] <CJ^> it helps you set up the drives...
[16 Jan/18:22] <CJ^> l8r all
[16 Jan/18:23] <CJ^> gonna go lay down for a biut  tired
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[16 Jan/18:23] <Los`Guy> it doesnt matter if it has connectors for more than one if it only supports 1 device those are different types is all
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[16 Jan/18:25] <Los`Guy> and I dont think that card has an configurable bios either
[16 Jan/18:25] <Los`Guy> but ...I cant say for sure
[16 Jan/18:27] <y2kdemon> NOOOO...hamsterdance was on a commerical
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[16 Jan/18:27] <y2kdemon> LOS: a internal and external drive worked
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[16 Jan/18:30] <y2kdemon> the drivers on the adaptec site, I ran the exe and it has a broken file error
[16 Jan/18:30] <y2kdemon> wtf
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[16 Jan/18:39] <devilDigg> hi all
[16 Jan/18:40] ! Tigerleah is known as TigerBrb
[16 Jan/18:40] <devilDigg> los, im in Linux right now
[16 Jan/18:40] <LosGuy> hi devilDigg
[16 Jan/18:40] <LosGuy> kewl devilDigg
[16 Jan/18:40] <devilDigg> yup
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[16 Jan/18:40] <devilDigg> i dont have many problems, just one with my mail
[16 Jan/18:40] <devilDigg> and then thats it.. but of course i still luv windows. :)
[16 Jan/18:41] <LosGuy> kewl
[16 Jan/18:41] <LosGuy> I have not used mail in linux
[16 Jan/18:41] <LosGuy> i always use my windows box for that
[16 Jan/18:41] <devilDigg> o
[16 Jan/18:41] <devilDigg> well ill ask in #linuxhelp or #linux for that
[16 Jan/18:42] <y2kdemon> rebooting now, 
[16 Jan/18:42] <y2kdemon> I installed the new drivers
[16 Jan/18:42] <walkndude> evening all
[16 Jan/18:43] <devilDigg> hi walkndude
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[16 Jan/18:44] <y2kdemon> AHHH
[16 Jan/18:44] <y2kdemon> still no show
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[16 Jan/18:45] <yaber-sno> hey
[16 Jan/18:45] <yaber-sno> i have a problem with burning an audio cd
[16 Jan/18:46] <yaber-sno> after burning it - the time it takes for the cd drive to realize it's an audio cd is unbearable
[16 Jan/18:46] <yaber-sno> it doesnt seem to play on regular cd players either
[16 Jan/18:46] <yaber-sno> and after the session was recorded, it said that the session was closed
[16 Jan/18:46] <yaber-sno> any guesses?
[16 Jan/18:46] <y2kdemon> I just dont get it, my scsi card WAS working, in the middle of a download it stopped working, so I went to CONTROL PANEL-SYSTEM, and deleted it out of there, and then restart windows and windows found it, and windows says my scsi card is working GOOD, but its not showing the drives, what could be wrong?
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[16 Jan/18:46] <LosGuy> closed is normal... but I have never burned an audio cd
[16 Jan/18:47] ! ^KiwiDude is known as KD-Away
[16 Jan/18:47] <walkndude> you might try different CDs
[16 Jan/18:47] <yaber-sno> y2kd - checked the cables?
[16 Jan/18:47] <LosGuy> so I cant really offer any help yaber-sno
[16 Jan/18:47] <yaber-sno> walkndude - recorded from wav files
[16 Jan/18:47] <yaber-sno> wav files played fine
[16 Jan/18:48] <LosGuy> hi walkndude didnt see ya 
[16 Jan/18:48] <walkndude> hello 
[16 Jan/18:48] <yaber-sno> y2kd - some cables can magically loosen themselves (believe me its weird)
[16 Jan/18:50] <yaber-sno> which drives screwed up, y2k?
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[16 Jan/18:52] <]F0o[> hi
[16 Jan/18:54] <walkndude> hello
[16 Jan/18:55] <man00> hi
[16 Jan/18:57] ! KD-Away is known as ^KiwiDude
[16 Jan/18:58] <]F0o[> Is there a sega saturn emulation ??
[16 Jan/19:00] <y2kdemon> YABER: it was working though
[16 Jan/19:01] <Azmodan> ]F0o[, not that I am aware of
[16 Jan/19:01] <y2kdemon> YABER: But when I hookup my dattape drive through my scsi harddrive, it finds it
[16 Jan/19:02] []F0o[> Azmodan: cheers
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[17 Jan/17:27] @ mode #win98 [+v Los`Guy] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[17 Jan/17:27] <Azmodan> hey Los
[17 Jan/17:28] <Los`Guy> hi Az
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[17 Jan/17:30] <Elysian1> hi
[17 Jan/17:30] @ mode #win98 [+v Elysian1] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[17 Jan/17:30] <Los`Guy> hey
[17 Jan/17:30] ! Elysian1 is known as Elysian`
[17 Jan/17:30] <Elysian`> howsit?
[17 Jan/17:30] <Azmodan> hi ely
[17 Jan/17:31] <Los`Guy> tis OK
[17 Jan/17:31] <Elysian`> oh good the bios lookup page loaded right
[17 Jan/17:31] <Los`Guy> hows things on your end?
[17 Jan/17:33] <Los`Guy> heard that usenet is gonna ban @home because of spam/abuse
[17 Jan/17:33] <Elysian`> woohoo
[17 Jan/17:33] <Elysian`> doh
[17 Jan/17:33] <Elysian`> not woohoo to that^^
[17 Jan/17:33] <Elysian`> woohoo i found the maker of this unknown mb
[17 Jan/17:34] <Elysian`> EFA
[17 Jan/17:34] <Elysian`> its a P55T2SPIO mobo
[17 Jan/17:35] <Elysian`> with a intel Triton II chipset
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[17 Jan/17:38] <Los`Guy> kewl Elysian`
[17 Jan/17:38] <hyporg> Is there a tool for copying my 2GB partition from this drive to a 4GB partition in a new drive?
[17 Jan/17:38] <Los`Guy> xcopy
[17 Jan/17:39] <Elysian`> yeah
[17 Jan/17:39] <Los`Guy> type xcopy /? for switches
[17 Jan/17:39] <Los`Guy> or xcopy32
[17 Jan/17:39] <Elysian`> or
[17 Jan/17:39] <Elysian`> just keep both hdd's:)
[17 Jan/17:39] <hyporg> Los`Guy: is xcopy a part of win98?
[17 Jan/17:39] <Los`Guy> yes hyporg 
[17 Jan/17:39] <Los`Guy> left over from dos days
[17 Jan/17:39] <hyporg> Elysian`: got to loose the old one for money$
[17 Jan/17:40] <hyporg> Los`Guy: hmm... when I was in dos days I remember something like DISKCOPY.
[17 Jan/17:40] <Elysian`> doh
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[17 Jan/17:40] <Elysian`> how much can a 2 gig get you? $25?
[17 Jan/17:40] @ mode #win98 [+v Acidance] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[17 Jan/17:41] <Acidance> i need a lock workstation app? or a startup passwd app?
[17 Jan/17:41] <hyporg> Los`Guy: If I xcopy from c: (a 2Gb partition on primary HDD) to e: (a 4GB partition on secondary HDD), then switch the HDD connections (so that the new one becomes primary), run FDISK /MBR to get my MBR in place and boot, will I get a replication of what my computer used to work like 5 minutes ago?
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[17 Jan/17:42] <Xax> does anyone know where i can upload files (5-10 MB) to an FTP site with a fast connection for free, for temporary usage (like 1 hour)?
[17 Jan/17:42] @ mode #win98 [+v Xax] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[17 Jan/17:42] <hyporg> Acidance: Windows user profile manager does that
[17 Jan/17:42] <Elysian`> `up
[17 Jan/17:42] @ mode #win98 [+o Elysian`] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[17 Jan/17:42] <Acidance> hyporg???
[17 Jan/17:42] <hyporg> Xar:webjump.com (25MB)
[17 Jan/17:42] <Acidance> but if they cancel out
[17 Jan/17:42] <hyporg> Los`Guy: ???
[17 Jan/17:42] <Acidance> they are in?
[17 Jan/17:42] <Los`Guy> hyporg yes if you use the proper switches you should be OK if you are just changing HDs
[17 Jan/17:42] <hyporg> Acidance: aha... never figured that out!
[17 Jan/17:43] <Acidance> ???
[17 Jan/17:43] <hyporg> Los`Guy: any idea is it'd do the same trick if my partition were non-DOS
[17 Jan/17:43] <Los`Guy> there are other programs that will do it also drive copy by powerquest , ghost , drive image etc
[17 Jan/17:43] <hyporg> Los`Guy: you want me to buy them for one-time-use?
[17 Jan/17:43] <Los`Guy> non dos?
[17 Jan/17:44] <Los`Guy> I dont WANT you to do anythihng hyporg
[17 Jan/17:44] <hyporg> Los`Guy: I gave two Linux partitions as logical drives in the extended partition
[17 Jan/17:44] <Elysian`> hyporg: then no it won't work
[17 Jan/17:44] <hyporg> Los`Guy: FDISK reveals them as NON-DOS logical partitions
[17 Jan/17:45] <Los`Guy> but you cant see them from win98 so you cant copy them using xcopy
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[17 Jan/17:45] <hyporg> Elysian`: probably xcopy need to be able to read the file system
[17 Jan/17:45] <Xax> hyporg: thx
[17 Jan/17:45] <hyporg> Xax: thz for what?
[17 Jan/17:45] <Elysian`> hyporg: can't read linux.. its not native to any windows os
[17 Jan/17:45] <Xax> hyporg: webjump.com :)
[17 Jan/17:46] <hyporg> Xax: oh.. sorry! I have a short time memory for nicks!
[17 Jan/17:46] <Xax> hehe
[17 Jan/17:46] <hyporg> Elysian`: yeah... I'll search for a similar function in Linux!
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[17 Jan/17:46] <ir> hey can someone help me out
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[17 Jan/17:46] <hyporg> ir: sure
[17 Jan/17:46] <Elysian`> hyporg: good luck
[17 Jan/17:46] <Elysian`> also
[17 Jan/17:46] <hyporg> Elysian`: thanks
[17 Jan/17:46] <ir> ok my internet explorer is pretty much messed
[17 Jan/17:47] <Elysian`> good luck getting em to boot
[17 Jan/17:47] <Elysian`>  ir: ok
[17 Jan/17:47] <Elysian`> and?
[17 Jan/17:47] <ir> for some reason i d/l some critical updates and since then it has been screwed
[17 Jan/17:47] <ir> i can't even access my school website
[17 Jan/17:47] <Elysian`> ok
[17 Jan/17:47] <Elysian`> well
[17 Jan/17:47] <hyporg> Elysian`: don't worry, I won't delete any data on the existing drive before everything works for a week!
[17 Jan/17:47] <ir> or my student loan website
[17 Jan/17:47] <Elysian`> ie4 or 5?
[17 Jan/17:47] <ir> ie5
[17 Jan/17:47] <Elysian`> ok
[17 Jan/17:48] <Elysian`> do you still have the install files?
[17 Jan/17:48] <ir> but on netscape these sites work
[17 Jan/17:48] * hyporg sends ir a packet of $2000 loan. Is that enough? I charge only 15% interest p.a.
[17 Jan/17:48] <ir> no i installed them from microsoft.com
[17 Jan/17:48] <ir> so i was thinking
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[17 Jan/17:48] <ir> i would uninstall, and then reinstall it
[17 Jan/17:48] <Elysian`> well
[17 Jan/17:48] <ir> but i need to keep my bookmarks
[17 Jan/17:48] <ir> how do i do that
[17 Jan/17:48] <Elysian`> ok do this
[17 Jan/17:48] <Elysian`> there should be a repair function when you go to uninstall
[17 Jan/17:48] <Elysian`> i thinks
[17 Jan/17:49] <ir> how do i uninstall it, i was just going to delete it right out
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[17 Jan/17:49] <Elysian`> wow
[17 Jan/17:49] <Elysian`> thats not smart ir
[17 Jan/17:49] <Elysian`> you go into control panel
[17 Jan/17:50] <Elysian`> go to add/remove programs
[17 Jan/17:50] <ir> lol, ok
[17 Jan/17:50] <ir> ok then hit repair
[17 Jan/17:50] <Elysian`> yeah
[17 Jan/17:50] <ir> ok i'll do it, and i'll be back
[17 Jan/17:51] <ir> thanks
[17 Jan/17:52] <Elysian`> np
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[17 Jan/17:56] <Digger`> wtf was that  Elysian` 
[17 Jan/17:56] <Digger`> Why did you go so quickly ?
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[17 Jan/17:58] <Elysian`> ?
[17 Jan/17:58] <Elysian`> i'm lost
[17 Jan/17:59] <Digger`> In #cybertalk 
[17 Jan/17:59] <Elysian`> yeah
[17 Jan/17:59] <Digger`> Yes you 
[17 Jan/17:59] ! HigHBabE is known as HigH-AwaY
[17 Jan/17:59] <Elysian`> just tryin to get hold of Elysain
[17 Jan/17:59] <Elysian`> elysian even
[17 Jan/17:59] <Digger`> See where he is ?
[17 Jan/18:01] <Elysian`> det: you around?
[17 Jan/18:02] <Elysian`> deton8r: you there?
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[17 Jan/18:02] <Deton8R> nope
[17 Jan/18:02] <Elysian`> hmm
[17 Jan/18:03] <Elysian`> sarcasm?
[17 Jan/18:03] <Digger`> don't do it again 
[17 Jan/18:03] <Elysian`> :)
[17 Jan/18:03] <Deton8R> :P~
[17 Jan/18:03] <Digger`> ok ?
[17 Jan/18:03] <Elysian`> det: so howsit?
[17 Jan/18:03] <Digger`> good
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[17 Jan/18:03] <ir> hey elysian, nothing
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[17 Jan/18:03] <Deton8R> eatin pizza
[17 Jan/18:04] <Los`Guy> again?
[17 Jan/18:04] <Elysian`> so hows the script comin?
[17 Jan/18:04] <Los`Guy> sheez pizza was yesterday... 
[17 Jan/18:04] <Los`Guy> or so cat said
[17 Jan/18:04] <Elysian`> woohoo
[17 Jan/18:04] <ir> it didnt work
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[17 Jan/18:04] <Elysian`> got this mb set up right and still have 2 jumpers left
[17 Jan/18:04] <Elysian`> ir: do this then
[17 Jan/18:04] <Elysian`> go to start
[17 Jan/18:04] <Elysian`> run
[17 Jan/18:05] <Elysian`> and go to the c: dir
[17 Jan/18:05] <Elysian`> under browse
[17 Jan/18:05] <Deton8R> nothin as good as leftover pizza
[17 Jan/18:05] <Elysian`> then look for windows update setup files... it also might be in program files
[17 Jan/18:05] <Los`Guy> strong statement..but it is good
[17 Jan/18:06] <ir> yeah ok found it
[17 Jan/18:06] <ir> there is a folder and two files in thre
[17 Jan/18:06] <ir> ie5setup and oainst are the files
[17 Jan/18:06] <Elysian`> ok
[17 Jan/18:06] <Elysian`> ie5setup 
[17 Jan/18:06] <Elysian`> ok
[17 Jan/18:06] <Elysian`> good
[17 Jan/18:06] <Elysian`> then you can uninstall IE5
[17 Jan/18:06] <ir> and the folder is baseie40_win
[17 Jan/18:07] <Elysian`> completely
[17 Jan/18:07] <Elysian`> and reainstall it with the ie5setup file
[17 Jan/18:07] <ir> ok, but i need to keep my bookmarks, how do i do that
[17 Jan/18:07] <Elysian`> it'll stay
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[17 Jan/18:07] <Elysian`> IE4 will stil be there
[17 Jan/18:07] <Elysian`> hi jet
[17 Jan/18:07] @ mode #win98 [+v jet] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[17 Jan/18:07] <ir> ok i'm confused
[17 Jan/18:08] <jet> hey all
[17 Jan/18:08] <ir> so where do i go to uninstall it
[17 Jan/18:08] <ir> in the control panel
[17 Jan/18:08] <Elysian`> ir: same add remove programs place
[17 Jan/18:08] <ir> then i reinstall by opening the ie5setup file
[17 Jan/18:09] <Elysian`> yes
[17 Jan/18:09] <ir> ok i'll try it thanks, i'll be back
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[17 Jan/18:09] <Los`Guy> ir have you searched the KB 
[17 Jan/18:09] <Los`Guy> doh
[17 Jan/18:09] <Elysian`> and choosing the same options you downloaded(probly typical
[17 Jan/18:09] <Elysian`> doh
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[17 Jan/18:10] <Elysian`> ?
[17 Jan/18:10] @ mode #win98 [+v ir] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[17 Jan/18:10] <Elysian`> back so soon
[17 Jan/18:10] <Elysian`> ?
[17 Jan/18:10] <ir> elysian, it won't let me uninstall
[17 Jan/18:10] <Elysian`> hmm
[17 Jan/18:10] <Elysian`> whats it saying?
[17 Jan/18:10] <ir> says that ie files have been corrupted or something like that
[17 Jan/18:10] <Elysian`> wow
[17 Jan/18:10] <CJ^> IE5 repair install maybe?
[17 Jan/18:10] <Elysian`> cj: he tried that
[17 Jan/18:10] <CJ^> this is FAR too common...
[17 Jan/18:11] ! TORINOBRB is known as TORINO
[17 Jan/18:11] <CJ^> one of the reasons i dont recommend IE5 on win98...
[17 Jan/18:11] <Elysian`> hehe
[17 Jan/18:11] <Los`Guy> yes I have see it twice now
[17 Jan/18:11] <ir> it says either the uninstall information is missing or has been corrupted
[17 Jan/18:11] <Elysian`> it seems nice on 2k... millenium has had bugs for me but stuff like illegal operations...
[17 Jan/18:11] <Elysian`> thats odd
[17 Jan/18:11] <Los`Guy> have you searched the KB for info yet?
[17 Jan/18:11] <CJ^> well thats cause its part of the OS..
[17 Jan/18:11] <CJ^> its nto an upgrade
[17 Jan/18:12] <CJ^> the IE5 upgrade for 98 seems to go haywire..
[17 Jan/18:12] <Elysian`> ir: try running ie5setup and see if you can just install over it?
[17 Jan/18:13] <ir> ok i'll try it
[17 Jan/18:18] <jet> .
[17 Jan/18:19] <Elysian`> howsit jet?
[17 Jan/18:19] <jet> sorry about that,my boy got the board.
[17 Jan/18:19] <Elysian`> hmm
[17 Jan/18:19] <jet> going good,you?
[17 Jan/18:20] <Elysian`> something tells me i should quit lookin int he channel for a new info bot:)
[17 Jan/18:20] <Azmodan> Elysian`, you won't see it soon, sorry
[17 Jan/18:21] <Elysian`> hehe
[17 Jan/18:21] <Elysian`> i saw it one day
[17 Jan/18:21] <Elysian`> then it was gone
[17 Jan/18:21] <Elysian`> The-Bot?
[17 Jan/18:21] <Elysian`> right
[17 Jan/18:21] <Azmodan> no
[17 Jan/18:21] <Azmodan> that is banned
[17 Jan/18:22] <Elysian`> really?
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[17 Jan/18:31] <ir1> elysian, thanks
[17 Jan/18:31] @ mode #win98 [+v ir1] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[17 Jan/18:31] <ir1> it worked
[17 Jan/18:31] <Elysian`> ok cool
[17 Jan/18:31] <ir1> i can access my grades
[17 Jan/18:31] <Elysian`> ok
[17 Jan/18:31] <ir1> so i shouldn't run a windows update though again right
[17 Jan/18:31] <Elysian`> i honestly wouldn't wanna access my grades:)
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[17 Jan/18:32] <ir1> thats what i was just thinking too
[17 Jan/18:32] @ mode #win98 [+v devilDigg] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[17 Jan/18:32] <Elysian`> ir1: no thats not it...
[17 Jan/18:32] <devilDigg> whats up..
[17 Jan/18:32] <Elysian`> if i accessed my grades my parents would want em and it woudl not go well at my house... not my fault i don't make a's and b's
[17 Jan/18:32] <Elysian`> :)
[17 Jan/18:33] <ir1> yeah same with my parents
[17 Jan/18:33] <ir1> but i live across the country 
[17 Jan/18:33] <ir1> so, that helps
[17 Jan/18:33] <ir1> so should i run any windows updates anymore
[17 Jan/18:34] <CJ^> only for critcle updates
[17 Jan/18:34] <ir1> ok thanks again guy
[17 Jan/18:34] <Elysian`> if you want... most of the time its never hurt anything... actually all the time when i had 98.. but i nevcer did the critical update crap
[17 Jan/18:34] <ir1> gusy
[17 Jan/18:34] <ir1> that should be thanks again guys
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[17 Jan/18:34] <Elysian`> wb jet
[17 Jan/18:34] <ir1> seeya later
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[17 Jan/18:35] <jet> thanks
[17 Jan/18:35] <Elysian`> wow
[17 Jan/18:35] <Elysian`> the student teacher ratio at my school is only 16.4 to 1
[17 Jan/18:36] <Elysian`> 7.7% african american, 8.6% hispanic, 76.2% white, 7.4% Asian, 0.1% native american
[17 Jan/18:37] <Elysian`> definate majority here:)
[17 Jan/18:37] <jet> conceal private desktop stopped IE5 from loading websites anyone know why?
[17 Jan/18:37] <Los`Guy> Elysian` your a minority?
[17 Jan/18:38] <Los`Guy> oh a geek ..yeah ok
[17 Jan/18:38] <Elysian`> nope
[17 Jan/18:38] <Elysian`> hehe
[17 Jan/18:38] <Los`Guy> jet are you blocking too much?
[17 Jan/18:38] <Elysian`> http://k-12.pisd.edu/schools/planoeast/
[17 Jan/18:39] <Elysian`> this is my school
[17 Jan/18:39] <Elysian`> its odd
[17 Jan/18:39] <jet> nope in fact I rebooted after the install of it and now have it shut off but still am not able to open sites
[17 Jan/18:39] <Elysian`> its surrounded by farms and a couplo blocks of houses, while the rest of plano is very dense
[17 Jan/18:39] ! PeJay is known as PJ_Food
[17 Jan/18:39] <jet> its off right now as well 
[17 Jan/18:40] <Elysian`> its a very big school...
[17 Jan/18:40] <Los`Guy> jett didnt we just go through this last week?
[17 Jan/18:40] <Los`Guy> after you uninstalled conseal 
[17 Jan/18:40] <jet> yes we did 
[17 Jan/18:41] <jet> that was the firewall
[17 Jan/18:41] <Los`Guy> [21:37] <jet> conceal private desktop stopped IE5 from loading websites anyone know why?
[17 Jan/18:42] <Los`Guy> isnt that the other model of the firewall?
[17 Jan/18:42] <jet> got me it must have been the desktop
[17 Jan/18:42] <jet> yes
[17 Jan/18:42] <Los`Guy> how did you fix it last time?
[17 Jan/18:42] <jet> format
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[17 Jan/18:44] <Los`Guy> doh
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[17 Jan/18:44] <Azmodan> hiya ozzy
[17 Jan/18:44] @ mode #win98 [+v osbourne] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[17 Jan/18:44] <Los`Guy> hi ya os
[17 Jan/18:45] <osbourne> howdy
[17 Jan/18:45] <Elysian`> wb os
[17 Jan/18:45] <Elysian`> ozzy rocks!
[17 Jan/18:45] <Elysian`> :)
[17 Jan/18:47] <Elysian`> well
[17 Jan/18:47] <Elysian`> i go's to sleep now
[17 Jan/18:47] <Elysian`> laterz
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[17 Jan/18:52] <jet> here we go again--brb
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[17 Jan/18:55] <Shao|Buzy> does intellimouse explorer work if i connect a ps/2 to serial connector?
[17 Jan/18:55] <CJ^> it shoudl yes
[17 Jan/18:55] <Shao|Buzy> ok
[17 Jan/18:56] <Shao|Buzy> thanx
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[17 Jan/18:57] <jet350> got it los just took it completely 
[17 Jan/18:57] <jet350> out
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[17 Jan/19:00] <JMG> In word 2000, how do I get it to show the whole pull down menu without having to click on the two little down arrows?
[17 Jan/19:01] <devAway> i dont think it can be done, thats how win2k and o2k are.. but i would check the prefs
[17 Jan/19:01] <devAway> and your office helper
[17 Jan/19:02] <JMG> Unfortunately tried those already with no help
[17 Jan/19:03] <devAway> then like i said before you cant, its the same in windows 2000, thats how microsoft thought it looked best, guess you will have to settle with that :(
[17 Jan/19:03] <devAway> but i'd keep lookin though
[17 Jan/19:03] <devAway> like on their site..
[17 Jan/19:03] <devAway> and public msg boards
[17 Jan/19:03] <devAway> and right here on irc
[17 Jan/19:04] <Los`Guy> try the KB and deja.com
[17 Jan/19:05] <JMG> ok, I'll take a look, got to be a registry setting somewhere that conrols them.
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[17 Jan/19:09] <Azmodan> JMG, I'll tell you what it is shortly
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[17 Jan/19:11] <Azmodan> JMG, click tools, click customize, untick 1st and 2nd check boxes in the Personalized Menus and Toolbars second, click Close
[17 Jan/19:12] <JMG> Yes, that did it, just found that same answer on deja.news Thanks!!  Their back to the old way now, much better.
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[17 Jan/19:13] <Nightfox> Hello
[17 Jan/19:13] <Nightfox> I'm running Windows 98 Second Edition.  I have a PnP monitor that's capable of 1280x1024.  Windows used to be able to use this resolution, but since I re-installed Windows not too long ago, it no longer has a 1280x1024 option in the display settings..  I've tried having it re-detect the monitor, and I also tried manually changing the monitor in Windows's setup, but it didn't help..  Anyone have any ideas?
[17 Jan/19:13] @ mode #win98 [+v Nightfox] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
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[17 Jan/19:13] <CJ^> Night  got the right drivers for your video card?
[17 Jan/19:13] ! KoRn^ is known as RiNoA^
[17 Jan/19:14] <Nightfox> CJ^: Yeah, I always did, and I still do..
[17 Jan/19:14] [JMG> Azmodan: Thanks for your help.
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[17 Jan/19:23] <stab> hi, is there any way to stop outlook express from sending email with html formatted content?
[17 Jan/19:23] @ mode #win98 [+v stab] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[17 Jan/19:24] < SignOff: CJ^!skippy@sdn-ar-001watacoP253.dialsprint.net (yeah.. you too can run Win98.. in all the shades of blue.... Page Fault at www.the-hunters.org/Goirc)
[17 Jan/19:24] <Los`Guy> stab I know you can ..but I dont know how.. cuz I dont use it
[17 Jan/19:25] <stab> i normally dont use it either.  it's the email client im pretty much forced to use at work, and i subscribed to some mailing lists that i would like to post on but i dont think they would appreciate the html stuff :(
[17 Jan/19:26] <Los`Guy> bl0w m3
[17 Jan/19:26] <Los`Guy>  doh sorry wrong channel
[17 Jan/19:26] <Azmodan> lol
[17 Jan/19:26] <Azmodan> ./kick los`guy behave
[17 Jan/19:26] <Los`Guy> I have seen it referenced stab.. I just dont know where it is
[17 Jan/19:26] * stab gets on his knees j/k
[17 Jan/19:26] <Los`Guy> yeah ok I deserve that
[17 Jan/19:26] <Los`Guy> ewww
[17 Jan/19:26] <stab> alright thanks los, im glad i know its possible now. i will keep looking into it
[17 Jan/19:26] <stab> cheers
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[17 Jan/19:27] <devilDigg> lol los
[17 Jan/19:27] <Los`Guy> hehe danged F7 button does that
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[17 Jan/19:28] * devilDigg wonders if los is drunk or something today
[17 Jan/19:32] <devilDigg> `kick devilDigg im bored
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[17 Jan/19:34] <FadeRemzs> Hi, i'd like to know if I can install win98 second ed. on win 98. Without loosing anything?
[17 Jan/19:35] <Los`Guy> yes you should be able to FadeRemzs
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[17 Jan/19:36] <FadeRemzs> I'ts not risky? (coz i dont wanna loose my 18gigs of stuff)
[17 Jan/19:36] @ mode #win98 [+v SHADOWMOB] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[17 Jan/19:36] <Los`Guy> FadeRemzs there is always a risk... you should back up your data first but usually it is no problem
[17 Jan/19:37] <SHADOWMOB> Anyone here know how to make dialup networking a service on 98?????????????????????????
[17 Jan/19:37] <FadeRemzs> Ok. Thank U very much Los`Guy !
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[17 Jan/19:38] <SHADOWMOB> anyone awake here?
[17 Jan/19:38] <SHADOWMOB> Los you know how?
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[17 Jan/19:46] <devilDigg> lol aphrodite
[17 Jan/19:46] * devilDigg knows he didnt do that though
[17 Jan/19:47] * Los`Guy wonders what devilDigg is talking about
[17 Jan/19:49] <devilDigg> <devilDigg> `kick devilDigg im bored
[17 Jan/19:49] <devilDigg> *** You have been kicked by Aphrodite (im bored)
[17 Jan/19:49] <Los`Guy> hmm didnt see that
[17 Jan/19:49] <Los`Guy> doh oh right after [22:28] * devilDigg wonders if los is drunk or something today
[17 Jan/19:49] <Los`Guy> [22:32] <devilDigg> `kick devilDigg im bored
[17 Jan/19:50] <Los`Guy> but it wasnt me
[17 Jan/19:50] * Los`Guy doesnt drink
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[17 Jan/19:50] <Los`Guy> hi cat
[17 Jan/19:50] <Azmodan> devilDigg, it was I having fun with ya
[17 Jan/19:51] <Azmodan> my ride is here
[17 Jan/19:51] <Azmodan> ciao
[17 Jan/19:51] <Los`Guy> see ya az
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[17 Jan/19:56] <Sir_ZMan> hi all
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[17 Jan/20:04] <devilDigg> az i know that
[17 Jan/20:04] * devilDigg could now have done that i have NO bot access
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[17 Jan/20:05] <bky2> anyone here know how the ftp.exe program in win98 works?
[17 Jan/20:06] <wez> go to dos prompt and type ftp
[17 Jan/20:06] <bky2> yes wez but how does it work?
[17 Jan/20:07] <wez> its a program.... i dunno...
[17 Jan/20:07] <bky2> hmmm
[17 Jan/20:07] <devilDigg> by2k
[17 Jan/20:07] <devilDigg> err: bky2
[17 Jan/20:07] <bky2> yes devilDigg
[17 Jan/20:08] <devilDigg> type: ftp /?
[17 Jan/20:08] <devilDigg> it should tell you all its commands
[17 Jan/20:08] <devilDigg> if not, type: ftp and when you are in the program type: help
[17 Jan/20:08] <bky2> i see
[17 Jan/20:08] <devilDigg> but i know its a standard ftp client
[17 Jan/20:09] <bky2> oh...i read the help file and it sait it's an ftp server where u can open port21 to serv ftp site
[17 Jan/20:10] <devilDigg> oh its a ftp server >
[17 Jan/20:10] <devilDigg> sorry, i dont use ftp if its a server then i would recommend you like get ahold of the help files and study them
[17 Jan/20:10] <devilDigg> i thought it was a client
[17 Jan/20:11] <bky2> oh...well then i dont know
[17 Jan/20:12] <bky2> hey thnks for the info devilDigg
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[17 Jan/20:21] @ mode #win98 [+v Los`Guy] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[17 Jan/20:23] <Los`Guy> `say
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[17 Jan/20:32] <devilDigg> los what time is it around where you live in the world..
[17 Jan/20:32] <Los`Guy> 11:30
[17 Jan/20:32] <wez> 1:37 central
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[17 Jan/20:35] <Cat`Work> 9:32 hawaiian
[17 Jan/20:35] <devilDigg> 2:32 eastern
[17 Jan/20:36] <Los`Guy> heh yer a late night geek devilDigg
[17 Jan/20:37] <devilDigg> heh
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[17 Jan/20:37] <Los`Guy> :P
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[17 Jan/21:18] <devilDigg> hi az
[17 Jan/21:18] <Azmodan> hi devilDigg 
[17 Jan/21:18] ! devilDigg is known as devSleep
[17 Jan/21:18] ! DeViAFK is known as DeViLgAl
[17 Jan/21:19] <devSleep> bbl, when this d/l is complete
[17 Jan/21:20] <Azmodan> okies
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[17 Jan/21:22] @ mode #WIN98 [+v \SlaX\] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[17 Jan/21:22] <\SlaX\> hello , another question =)
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[17 Jan/21:23] @ mode #WIN98 [+v L3AD] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[17 Jan/21:23] <L3AD> anyone wanna help me with a linux installation cos the linux help people wont
[17 Jan/21:23] <L3AD> and i need help
[17 Jan/21:23] <L3AD> plz
[17 Jan/21:23] <L3AD> i need help i just installed caldera linux, used partition magic, installed and froze at tetris, now i cant get into linux only windows, help please, msg me
[17 Jan/21:23] <\SlaX\> is there a program that could say to windows to  at an hour he quits all programs, disconnect from the internet and turn of my pc?
[17 Jan/21:23] <L3AD> yes
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[17 Jan/21:24] <L3AD> i need help i just installed caldera linux, used partition magic, installed and froze at tetris, now i cant get into linux only windows, help please, msg me
[17 Jan/21:25] <\SlaX\> hellooooooooo
[17 Jan/21:25] < SignOff: L3AD!L3AD@202.50.170.151 (i know u will be a star, in somebody elses sky but why, why cant it be, cant it be mine.)
[17 Jan/21:25] <Los-Guy> L3AD do NOT /msg me see the topic
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[17 Jan/21:25] ! D3t0n8R is known as Deton8R
[17 Jan/21:26] ! Los-Guy is known as LosGuy
[17 Jan/21:27] <\SlaX\> LosGuy?
[17 Jan/21:27] <\SlaX\> is there a program that could say to windows to  at an hour he quits all programs, disconnect from the internet and turn of my pc?
[17 Jan/21:28] <LosGuy> slax you could perhaps write a bat file to do it..not sure if it would work
[17 Jan/21:28] ! Hot_Shot is known as Hot_Away
[17 Jan/21:28] <\SlaX\> cool
[17 Jan/21:28] <LosGuy> hmm just a sec
[17 Jan/21:28] <\SlaX\> but the bat file it woould have to say
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[17 Jan/21:29] <LosGuy> ok try this...
[17 Jan/21:29] <LosGuy> make a txtfile ...carl it shutdown.txt or whatever
[17 Jan/21:29] <\SlaX\> okay
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[17 Jan/21:29] <LosGuy> then put this line in it
[17 Jan/21:29] <LosGuy> C:\WINDOWS\RUNDLL.EXE user.exe,exitwindows
[17 Jan/21:30] <LosGuy> then rename it to .bat
[17 Jan/21:30] ! Ann_drivi is known as ann_nz
[17 Jan/21:30] <\SlaX\> and i would quit al programs and turn off the computer?
[17 Jan/21:31] <LosGuy> it will just shut down your computer slax
[17 Jan/21:31] <LosGuy> I dont know if it will work as a scheduled program though
[17 Jan/21:31] <\SlaX\> thanx!! =)
[17 Jan/21:31] <LosGuy> test it
[17 Jan/21:31] <LosGuy> let me know if it works
[17 Jan/21:31] <\SlaX\> sure!!
[17 Jan/21:32] <\SlaX\> u will see me quit and then i will reconnect and told u
[17 Jan/21:32] <LosGuy> hehe ok
[17 Jan/21:33] ! symetrix is known as symZzZzZz
[17 Jan/21:33] <\SlaX\> it says before quiting windows u have to close this windows
[17 Jan/21:33] <\SlaX\> it says before quiting windows u have to close this window
[17 Jan/21:33] <\SlaX\> is the dos window =(
[17 Jan/21:33] <LosGuy> hmm just a sec then...
[17 Jan/21:34] <\SlaX\> sure =)
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[17 Jan/21:37] <LosGuy> slax better yet... go here and dl the program at the top of the page under winutils
[17 Jan/21:37] <LosGuy> http://www.ozemail.com.au/~daylott/software.htm
[17 Jan/21:37] <LosGuy> if yer running win98 you shouldnt need any runtimes
[17 Jan/21:38] <\SlaX\> okay thanx!
[17 Jan/21:39] <\SlaX\> VB5 runtime files?
[17 Jan/21:39] <\SlaX\> that one LosGuy?
[17 Jan/21:40] <CJ^> vb6
[17 Jan/21:40] <LosGuy> you dont need them if your running win98
[17 Jan/21:40] <LosGuy> the vb5 runtimes come with win98
[17 Jan/21:40] <\SlaX\> so i need vb6?
[17 Jan/21:40] <LosGuy> just the one that says version 4.2 for win95/98
[17 Jan/21:40] <LosGuy> no
[17 Jan/21:40] <\SlaX\> i am in second edition
[17 Jan/21:41] <CJ^> slax yer fine!!!
[17 Jan/21:41] <LosGuy> yer OK if you just dl the program then
[17 Jan/21:41] ! HigH|Park is known as HigHBabE
[17 Jan/21:41] <LosGuy> dont worry about the "additional requirements"
[17 Jan/21:41] <devSleep> bye all
[17 Jan/21:41] <LosGuy> nite dev
[17 Jan/21:41] ! devSleep is known as devilDigg
[17 Jan/21:41] <\SlaX\> okay 
[17 Jan/21:42] <\SlaX\> i am donwloading =)
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[17 Jan/21:43] <\SlaX\> and after downloaging the program? is it easy to use it?
[17 Jan/21:43] <LosGuy> dunno never used it 
[17 Jan/21:43] <LosGuy> but I have heard that it is
[17 Jan/21:44] <\SlaX\> ok
[17 Jan/21:44] <\SlaX\> so there is no command line to close the dos window?
[17 Jan/21:44] <CJ^> exit
[17 Jan/21:45] ! Hot_Away is known as Hot_Shot
[17 Jan/21:45] <\SlaX\> no but when the program is ended
[17 Jan/21:45] <\SlaX\> and the window is  still there
[17 Jan/21:45] <LosGuy> slax it is more complicated to closes all running apps
[17 Jan/21:45] <LosGuy> this program will do it for you easily
[17 Jan/21:46] <\SlaX\> ok
[17 Jan/21:46] <LosGuy> it is a far better way to do it rather than just shutting down
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[17 Jan/21:46] @ mode #WIN98 [+v awang7] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[17 Jan/21:47] <Azmodan> just go into its properties and click the close on exit check box
[17 Jan/21:48] <awang7> i've copied whole cd games into hard drive..do anyone know how to redirect windows to read it form harddrive instead of cd
[17 Jan/21:48] <awang7> i've copied whole cd games into hard drive..do anyone know how to redirect windows to read it form harddrive instead of cd?
[17 Jan/21:48] <CJ^> ????????
[17 Jan/21:49] <CJ^> use the cdrom bud...
[17 Jan/21:49] <awang7> how
[17 Jan/21:49] <CJ^> usee the cdrom drive..
[17 Jan/21:49] <CJ^> dont use the hard drive...
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[17 Jan/21:50] <awang7> i dont have the cd
[17 Jan/21:50] <awang7> that's the prob
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[17 Jan/21:50] <CJ^> oh  so ya stole the game?
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[17 Jan/21:50] <awang7> yup form internet
[17 Jan/21:50] @ mode #WIN98 [+v LosGuy] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[17 Jan/21:51] <CJ^> thats illegal...
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[17 Jan/21:51] <awang7> that's true
[17 Jan/21:51] <CJ^> cant help...
[17 Jan/21:51] <CJ^> leave now...
[17 Jan/21:51] <CJ^> `op
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[17 Jan/21:57] <Bigs> g'day
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[17 Jan/21:58] <LosGuy> hi 
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[17 Jan/21:58] <Bigs> hows things
[17 Jan/21:58] @ mode #WIN98 [+v \SlaX\] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[17 Jan/21:58] <\SlaX\> it doesn't work =(
[17 Jan/21:58] <LosGuy> doh 
[17 Jan/21:59] <LosGuy> search deja.com for shutdown batch then slax
[17 Jan/21:59] <\SlaX\> because i have to purchase it
[17 Jan/21:59] <LosGuy> ok hows things with you Bigs?
[17 Jan/21:59] <Bigs> not bad thx
[17 Jan/21:59] ! chi||i is known as chi||CASH
[17 Jan/21:59] <LosGuy> you asked for an app to do it slax that is what puts food on peoples tables
[17 Jan/21:59] <LosGuy> you buying it :P
[17 Jan/22:00] <\SlaX\> sure ;)
[17 Jan/22:21] ! chi||CASH is known as chi||i
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[18 Jan/17:19] <wez> who is that?
[18 Jan/17:19] <Azmodan> -op mandy
[18 Jan/17:19] @ mode #WIN98 [+o Mandy] by LifeBlood!azmodan@phi.compinet.com
[18 Jan/17:19] <wez> ???????????
[18 Jan/17:19] <Azmodan> hi wez
[18 Jan/17:19] <Big`Ed> the real az in a shell
[18 Jan/17:19] <Big`Ed> as i'm in a shell
[18 Jan/17:19] <Azmodan> the real az, fer real
[18 Jan/17:19] <wez> imposter!!!!
[18 Jan/17:19] <wez> hehehe
[18 Jan/17:20] + Azmodan huffs at wez
[18 Jan/17:20] <wez> oh, so there is reason to doubt......
[18 Jan/17:20] * wez get real slanty eyed.........
[18 Jan/17:21] <Azmodan> hehehe
[18 Jan/17:21] + Azmodan goes to cut the meat for dinner
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[18 Jan/17:21] <wez> hmmmm
[18 Jan/17:21] <Big`Ed> besides madny likes az
[18 Jan/17:21] <Big`Ed> madny
[18 Jan/17:21] <Big`Ed> mandy
[18 Jan/17:21] <Big`Ed> can't type
[18 Jan/17:21] <wez> smells like az....
[18 Jan/17:21] <wez> keep at least ONE hand on the keyboard ed.....
[18 Jan/17:21] <Big`Ed> cutting up a roo
[18 Jan/17:21] <wez> ;)
[18 Jan/17:21] <wez> hehehe roo roast
[18 Jan/17:22] <wez> just boings onto your plate..
[18 Jan/17:23] <Big`Ed> hehe
[18 Jan/17:25] <wez> Jumps off your plate onto your hips
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[18 Jan/17:25] @ mode #WIN98 [+v devilDigg] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[18 Jan/17:25] <Big`Ed> hah
[18 Jan/17:25] <wez> actually i hear roo is like goose, real lean
[18 Jan/17:25] <Big`Ed> wb dev
[18 Jan/17:27] <devilDigg> thanks Big`Ed
[18 Jan/17:30] @ mode #WIN98 [+o Tiberius] by LifeBlood!azmodan@phi.compinet.com
[18 Jan/17:31] <Big`Ed> a deton8r mech
[18 Jan/17:31] <Big`Ed> ugh
[18 Jan/17:32] <Big`Ed> don't know if i allow a mech i'm not 100 in
[18 Jan/17:33] <Big`Ed> hehe
[18 Jan/17:33] <wez> eleitist!
[18 Jan/17:33] <wez> :)
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[18 Jan/17:34] <Ignoracle> and what about me, big boy?
[18 Jan/17:34] <Big`Ed> bah
[18 Jan/17:34] <Ignoracle> ya think ya rate any less with me?
[18 Jan/17:34] <Ignoracle> youre an easy 100 eddie-poo
[18 Jan/17:34] <wez> ack!
[18 Jan/17:35] <wez> what are you doing to my bot?
[18 Jan/17:35] <Big`Ed> not i
[18 Jan/17:35] <wez> sicko robo-sexual!!!
[18 Jan/17:35] * wez plagurizes
[18 Jan/17:35] <Big`Ed> only fluffe` calls me eddie-poo
[18 Jan/17:36] <wez>  see?
[18 Jan/17:36] <wez> theres more than one facet to preversity
[18 Jan/17:41] <Big`Ed> z
[18 Jan/17:46] <Big`Ed> z
[18 Jan/17:46] <wez> well i have to write my own material and, well there are some clunkers..............
[18 Jan/17:47] <Big`Ed> readlly?
[18 Jan/17:47] <Big`Ed> really?
[18 Jan/17:47] <wez> so i need help, isnt this a 
[18 Jan/17:47] <wez> "help" channel???
[18 Jan/17:47] <wez> boy thats really trying....
[18 Jan/17:48] <Big`Ed> `insult wez
[18 Jan/17:48] <Big`Ed> new material delivered
[18 Jan/17:48] <wez> thx!
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[18 Jan/17:53] <Big`Ed> z
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[18 Jan/17:54] <Norstrom> hey
[18 Jan/17:54] @ mode #WIN98 [+v Norstrom] by Vulcan!itsnotme@the.best.os.is.linux.am
[18 Jan/17:54] <Big`Ed> hi
[18 Jan/17:54] <Norstrom> got a question
[18 Jan/17:55] <Norstrom> what does it mean when I get "illegal operation, must shut down" message?
[18 Jan/17:55] <Big`Ed> the program did just that and must be terminated
[18 Jan/17:55] <Big`Ed> usually assocaiated with memory violations
[18 Jan/17:56] <Norstrom> hmmm
[18 Jan/17:56] <Norstrom> ok
[18 Jan/17:56] <Norstrom> thanks
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[18 Jan/17:56] <Big`Ed> k
[18 Jan/17:58] <Azmodan> mostly associated with bad programming practises
[18 Jan/17:59] <Deton8R> Az
[18 Jan/18:01] <Azmodan> det
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[18 Jan/18:01] <Big`Ed> z
[18 Jan/18:02] <Big`Ed> los
[18 Jan/18:03] <devilDigg> LosGuy!!!!
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[18 Jan/18:04] <LosGuy> hehe Hi Ed
[18 Jan/18:05] <LosGuy> didn expect to see ya
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[18 Jan/18:06] <Bill_> Greetings
[18 Jan/18:06] <LosGuy> hy devilDigg
[18 Jan/18:07] <Bill_> I just bought another hard drive, and would like to move my data files to it (my documents, favorites, outlook, etc.). Does anyone know if this is possible?
[18 Jan/18:09] <LosGuy> yes Bill_
[18 Jan/18:09] <LosGuy> you can slave the drive 
[18 Jan/18:09] <LosGuy> and then just copy it using explorer for data files
[18 Jan/18:09] <Bill_> Do I need to make registry changes?
[18 Jan/18:09] <Bill_> I want d: to be the default for any data files
[18 Jan/18:10] <LosGuy> or use xcopy from a dos prompt if you like (switches can be found by typing xcopy /?)
[18 Jan/18:10] <LosGuy> Bill_ you should not need to make any registry changes if your just copying data
[18 Jan/18:10] <LosGuy> however you will have problems if you try to copy most programs
[18 Jan/18:10] <Bill_> How do I move Favorites?
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[18 Jan/18:10] <LosGuy> now your talking about something else
[18 Jan/18:10] <Bill_> Isn't My Documents hard wired into Windows?
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[18 Jan/18:10] <LosGuy> and I dont use IE so I cant help ya there
[18 Jan/18:11] <CJ^> hard wired??
[18 Jan/18:11] <LosGuy> uh sorta...but into the windows that is running
[18 Jan/18:11] <Bill_> I'd also like to move the desktop files over to D: if possible
[18 Jan/18:11] <Deton8R> yeah..we haven't converted him yet
[18 Jan/18:11] <Deton8R> but we're workin on him
[18 Jan/18:11] <Bill_> Basically programs only on C:, Data files on D:
[18 Jan/18:11] <LosGuy> if you have another on another drive.. that is different
[18 Jan/18:11] <LosGuy> Bill_ desktop FILES are located at c:\windows\desktop
[18 Jan/18:12] <Bill_> unless you have more than one user set up..., but I'd like to move desktop to the other drive. Do you know if that's even possible?
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[18 Jan/18:12] <MetHad0NE> i ran a system checker and it told me i have a file called user.exe and it may be corrupt what is that?
[18 Jan/18:12] <Bill_> I'm guessing that these things are covered somehow in registry settings, but I don't want to fool around when I don't know what I'm doing.
[18 Jan/18:12] <LosGuy> it is part of windows bill
[18 Jan/18:13] <LosGuy> doh MetHad0NE
[18 Jan/18:13] <LosGuy> I think it is not even in a cab
[18 Jan/18:13] <LosGuy> copy a new one from your cdrom 
[18 Jan/18:13] <MetHad0NE> is that bad?
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[18 Jan/18:13] <LosGuy> if you cant find it run SFC and tell it to extract a single file from \win98 on your cdrom
[18 Jan/18:13] <Bill_> cj^ meaning that it's a fixed location, can't be changed.
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[18 Jan/18:14] <Bill_> This could make my backup routine a whole lot simpler if possible.
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[18 Jan/18:40] <^Pi0chaS^> kien me puede resolver una duda ??????????????????????????????????????????
[18 Jan/18:40] <CJ^> say what?
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[18 Jan/18:41] <LosGuy> english only
[18 Jan/18:41] <LosGuy> and colors not needed
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[18 Jan/18:45] <LoganFate> how do I recover my master boot record after I've fucked it up?
[18 Jan/18:45] <CJ^> first
[18 Jan/18:45] <CJ^> dont cuss
[18 Jan/18:45] <CJ^> second
[18 Jan/18:46] <LosGuy> no cussing LifeBlood
[18 Jan/18:46] <LosGuy> doh LoganFate
[18 Jan/18:46] <CJ^> fdisk /mbr
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[18 Jan/18:46] <LoganFate> cool
[18 Jan/18:46] <LosGuy> wont touch the file tables though if that is what is messed up
[18 Jan/18:46] <LoganFate> sorry
[18 Jan/18:46] <LoganFate> okay
[18 Jan/18:46] <LoganFate> cool
[18 Jan/18:46] <LoganFate> that should do it/
[18 Jan/18:46] <LoganFate> ?
[18 Jan/18:46] <CJ^> should..
[18 Jan/18:46] <LoganFate> okay
[18 Jan/18:46] <CJ^> what did you do to mess it up?
[18 Jan/18:48] <LoganFate> you guys rock
[18 Jan/18:48] <LoganFate> thanks
[18 Jan/18:48] <LosGuy> if it was a mbr virus that encryptes the file table 
[18 Jan/18:49] <LosGuy> doh
[18 Jan/18:49] <LosGuy> anyway if you did that on a mbr virus that ecrypted the file table you would be hosed :O
[18 Jan/18:49] <LosGuy> but I guess not
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[18 Jan/18:50] <LoganFate> bad case of linux install gone bad
[18 Jan/18:50] <LosGuy> ahh the microsoft fever 
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[18 Jan/19:02] <LosGuy> doh I just noticed he said LINUX install gone bad hehehe
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[18 Jan/19:11] <Jaymez> anyone alive?
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[18 Jan/19:11] <LosGuy> maybe
[18 Jan/19:12] <Jaymez> I have a problem
[18 Jan/19:12] <Jaymez> my usb ports aren't being recognized in windows
[18 Jan/19:12] <LosGuy> conflicts?
[18 Jan/19:12] <LosGuy> enabled in bios?
[18 Jan/19:13] <Jaymez> usb has to be enabled in bios?
[18 Jan/19:13] <Jaymez> hmm
[18 Jan/19:13] <Jaymez> didn' tknow that
[18 Jan/19:13] <Jaymez> what esle can I check before I reboot
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[18 Jan/19:16] <diskerror> does ne1 know how to edit the modem init string in win98
[18 Jan/19:16] <LosGuy> try 56K.com diskerror
[18 Jan/19:16] <diskerror> k
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[19 Jan/17:15] <by2k> Los how can u run tweakUI?
[19 Jan/17:15] <LosGuy> install it ... 
[19 Jan/17:15] <LosGuy> do you have win98 or win98se by2k?
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[19 Jan/17:16] <by2k> yes los
[19 Jan/17:16] <LosGuy> yeah?
[19 Jan/17:16] <LosGuy> which?
[19 Jan/17:16] <by2k> win98se
[19 Jan/17:16] <LosGuy> then you can get it here http://www.winmag.com/win98/software.htm
[19 Jan/17:17] <LosGuy> (its on the win98 cdrom not on win98se though)
[19 Jan/17:17] <by2k> i c
[19 Jan/17:17] <by2k> but what does it do?
[19 Jan/17:17] <LosGuy> by2k alot of tweaks
[19 Jan/17:18] <LosGuy> but you can also mess your system up a bit if you go crazy with it
[19 Jan/17:18] <LosGuy> there are some functions with it that you shold not do ie try to disable IE or hide drives
[19 Jan/17:18] <LosGuy> you will not be happy with the results if you do
[19 Jan/17:19] <LosGuy> too many people did dumb things with it ...so they didnt include it on the win98se cdrom
[19 Jan/17:19] <by2k> haha 
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[19 Jan/17:20] <by2k> it only disable drive...what about system device?
[19 Jan/17:20] <LosGuy> no it does hundreds of things by2k
[19 Jan/17:21] <LosGuy> disabling system devices is not one of them though
[19 Jan/17:21] <LosGuy> brb 
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[19 Jan/17:25] <by2k> can u give me an example of what tweakUi does Los?
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[19 Jan/17:27] <LosGuy> by2k just dl and install it to see it is tiny
[19 Jan/17:27] <LosGuy> just because you install it doesnt mean you have to use it..it just will be there
[19 Jan/17:28] <by2k> i c
[19 Jan/17:29] <by2k> i wonder if i can close all the port on my system?? do u think it possible Los?
[19 Jan/17:30] <LosGuy> with a firewall you can close ports
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[19 Jan/17:30] <LosGuy> http://www.zonelabs.com/zonealarm.htm  <--- free firewall
[19 Jan/17:30] <MavericK> hy guys
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[19 Jan/17:31] <MavericK> is it possible to have an ip adresse  like this one     :  123.0.0.0  ???
[19 Jan/17:31] <LosGuy> or use conseal ( www.signal9.com ) its probably the best ... I have not tried that zone alarm program
[19 Jan/17:31] <LosGuy> hi MavericK
[19 Jan/17:31] <by2k> thks Los
[19 Jan/17:31] <LosGuy> hmm MavericK... it would not be for a normal small home network
[19 Jan/17:31] <MavericK> ok . thanks you !!
[19 Jan/17:32] <LosGuy> it might work
[19 Jan/17:32] <LosGuy> but there are certain ranges that are reserved for this
[19 Jan/17:32] <NeTsPl|t> like my ip.......
[19 Jan/17:32] <MavericK> but ,. it's can work ?   good ! 
[19 Jan/17:32] <NeTsPl|t> its all numbers...
[19 Jan/17:33] <LosGuy> that would be a class A network I belive
[19 Jan/17:34] <LosGuy> you might have problems with some programs working ie ICS if you use it
[19 Jan/17:34] <MavericK> Okay
[19 Jan/17:35] <MavericK> what is ICS ? :)
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[19 Jan/17:36] <LosGuy> a NAT ... ICS = Internet connection sharing
[19 Jan/17:36] <MavericK> ok ! 
[19 Jan/17:36] <LosGuy> like wingate or sygate or winroute sorta but free as part of win98se
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[19 Jan/17:37] <by2k> and what does it do Los?
[19 Jan/17:37] <BuD-IcE> can any one plz help i have a question about win95
[19 Jan/17:38] <MavericK> Guy you really good !! thank alot
[19 Jan/17:38] <LosGuy> what does what do by2k?
[19 Jan/17:38] <LosGuy> try #win98 or #windows95 BuD-IcE most of us have not used win95 for a LONG time now
[19 Jan/17:39] <BuD-IcE> i am in win98 lol
[19 Jan/17:39] <LosGuy> np MavericK
[19 Jan/17:39] <by2k> ics what does it do?
[19 Jan/17:39] <BuD-IcE> well does any one know how to get a qucik launch bar for win95 ??
[19 Jan/17:39] <LosGuy> doh meant #win95 ...ya see not even used to typing it
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[19 Jan/17:39] <BuD-IcE> there no one in win95 :(
[19 Jan/17:39] <LosGuy> BuD-IcE that is part of internet explorer
[19 Jan/17:39] <LosGuy> upgrade yours and you should get it
[19 Jan/17:39] <BuD-IcE> i got 5.0
[19 Jan/17:40] <LosGuy> then ask in #win95
[19 Jan/17:40] <LosGuy> :)
[19 Jan/17:40] <BuD-IcE> no one is there
[19 Jan/17:40] <LosGuy> by2k it allows you to share one internet connection with more than one computer that is networked
[19 Jan/17:41] <LosGuy> BuD-IcE no one there doesnt make this a win95 channel
[19 Jan/17:41] <by2k> Los: oh i get it now
[19 Jan/17:41] <BuD-IcE> i know iam sorry
[19 Jan/17:41] <LosGuy> try #windows or #windowshelp etc .... there are tons of windows channels last time I looked
[19 Jan/17:41] <BuD-IcE> k thanks :)
[19 Jan/17:42] <LosGuy> good luck
[19 Jan/17:42] <BuD-IcE> :)
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[19 Jan/17:46] <by2k> Los can i ask u somting?
[19 Jan/17:46] <LosGuy> sure
[19 Jan/17:46] <by2k> can u manually open a port and let people connect into ur pc?
[19 Jan/17:47] <by2k> but not w/o a server like ftpserver though
[19 Jan/17:47] <LosGuy> uh what port?
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[19 Jan/17:47] <LosGuy> or connect how?
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[19 Jan/17:47] <LosGuy> just installing file and print sharing and sharing a folder will open port 139... to the world if your not careful
[19 Jan/17:48] <MavericK> but . it's still hard to connect to a network share folder! .. ( by the net)  isn't it ?
[19 Jan/17:49] <by2k> yes by the net
[19 Jan/17:49] <LosGuy> yeah sometimes having alot of bandwith helps
[19 Jan/17:49] <LosGuy> there are other apps that work better ie pcanywhere 
[19 Jan/17:50] <by2k> so how do u install the sharing file or whatever u call it Los?
[19 Jan/17:50] <LosGuy> and are safer
[19 Jan/17:50] <LosGuy> in control panel / networks properties for tcp/ip
[19 Jan/17:50] <by2k> i know but i just want to know how it work by learning it manually
[19 Jan/17:51] <by2k> uh huh
[19 Jan/17:53] <by2k> where's Los?
[19 Jan/17:54] <LosGuy> ¿
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