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  15     <B>ongeboren</B>
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  19     <I>Thu Mar 29 06:59:48 PDT 2007</I>
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  34 <PRE>Imho, &quot;modes lock&quot; and &quot;modes enforcement&quot; are 2 different things. If
  35 they are separated, channel owners could decide not to enforce the
  36 modes, allowing for instance cmode +b be used to silence a user (as
  37 some irc servers don't allow messages from banned users) but still
  38 keep the banned user in the channel. Analogously, the same goes for
  39 cmode +r (identified to services only). Further, if configured by the
  40 services admin, services could act even more aggressively by kicking
  41 all users matching a ban not placed via the ban list in services but
  42 via /mode #chan +b mask, provided the channel has &quot;modes enforcement
  43 on&quot;. The last extra isn't probably desirable for big production
  44 networks.
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  46 Feel free to disagree with me, but propose something better instead,
  47 as my idea should be trivial to implement and is an acceptable
  48 compromise.
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  50 On 3/28/07, Andrew Church &lt;<A HREF="http://lists.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">achurch at achurch.org</A>&gt; wrote:
  51 &gt;<i> &gt;The problem was, when services split, some users get unidentified, and chan=
  52 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;serv joins and does a kick banning spree, and yes, I am using the lastest=
  53 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;=20
  54 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;version of services.
  55 </I>&gt;<i>
  56 </I>&gt;<i>      If ChanServ &quot;joins&quot;, you're not using IRC Services.  In any case,
  57 </I>&gt;<i> Services keeps track of users' identification status across netsplits and
  58 </I>&gt;<i> restarts (unless you have NoSplitRecovery set in your ircservices.conf),
  59 </I>&gt;<i> so the only users that would be affected by this are those that first
  60 </I>&gt;<i> connected to the network while Services was split.  If this bothers you,
  61 </I>&gt;<i> then again, the answer is not to use MLOCK +R (you can, of course, still
  62 </I>&gt;<i> use +R normally).
  63 </I>&gt;<i>
  64 </I>&gt;<i>   --Andrew Church
  65 </I>&gt;<i>     <A HREF="http://lists.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">achurch at achurch.org</A>
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  74 Evlogi Petrov - <A HREF="http://lists.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ongeboren at UniBG</A>
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