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15 <B>nim at shadowfire.org
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19 <I>Wed Mar
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34 <PRE>Honestly, i was thing more along the lines of a setting on if the founder wanted services to enforce this behavior on mlock +R or not, which
35 should be more simple to accomplish. Andrew already said he doesnt agree with me on the neccessity of this functionality, so i will just leave
40 On Thu, Mar
29,
2007 at
01:
08:
17AM +
0100, Craig McLure wrote:
41 ><i> I agree with you and Andy, there's also the issue of checking whether
42 </I>><i> the user has permission on services side to perform the specific
43 </I>><i> invite, for your +R case, it would need to be ensure that the user has
44 </I>><i> permission to change the MLOCK on the channel before the invite could
45 </I>><i> be allowed, with normal procedure for this being:
47 </I>><i> /cs set #channel mlock -R
48 </I>><i> /invite user #channel
49 </I>><i> *** USER JOINS ***
50 </I>><i> /cs set #channel mlock +R
52 </I>><i> which adds another level of complexity to what is being asked (Also
53 </I>><i> note this would be added for one, maybe two, IRCd(s)).
55 </I>><i> What it all comes down to, is I don't believe that the behaviour of an
56 </I>><i> IRCd should dictate the behaviour of Services.
58 </I>><i> It's just my
2c, and at the end of the day, it comes down to Andy to
59 </I>><i> make the final call ;)
63 </I>><i> On
28/
03/
07, Kieron Thwaites
<<A HREF=
"http://lists.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ron2k.za at gmail.com
</A>> wrote:
64 </I>><i> >You do have a valid point there, however my opinion is that it won't
65 </I>><i> >be worth adding the extra complexity to deal with special cases (such
66 </I>><i> >as invited users). There's a FAQ entry dealing with a similar issue,
67 </I>><i> >although I'm uncertain whether or not Andrew would extend it to
68 </I>><i> >something like this.
70 </I>><i> >Incidentally, Services exhibits this behaviour in other cases as well.
71 </I>><i> >If you /invite a user who's on the channel AKICK list, for example,
72 </I>><i> >Services will still kick the user out, even if the user was able to
73 </I>><i> >walk though bans set by Services because of said /invite.
77 </I>><i> >On
28/
03/
07,
<A HREF=
"http://lists.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">nim at shadowfire.org
</A> <<A HREF=
"http://lists.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">nim at shadowfire.org
</A>> wrote:
78 </I>><i> >> The problem is, the ircd explicitly allows methods to bypass +R, yet
79 </I>><i> >ircservices doesnt, such as /inviting for instance.
81 </I>><i> >> Also, just my
2 cents worth.
84 </I>><i> >> Nim
86 </I>><i> >> On Wed, Mar
28,
2007 at
03:
12:
25PM +
0200, Kieron Thwaites wrote:
87 </I>><i> >> > I have to say that I'm in agreement with Andrew here. If you mlock +R,
88 </I>><i> >> > you're implying that you want Services to enforce it.
89 </I>><i> >> >
90 </I>><i> >> > Just my
2 cents worth.
91 </I>><i> >> >
92 </I>><i> >> > --K
93 </I>><i> >> >
94 </I>><i> >> > On
28/
03/
07,
<A HREF=
"http://lists.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">nim at shadowfire.org
</A> <<A HREF=
"http://lists.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">nim at shadowfire.org
</A>> wrote:
95 </I>><i> >> > >
96 </I>><i> >> > >
97 </I>><i> >> > >> If ChanServ
"joins
", you're not using IRC Services.
98 </I>><i> >> > >
99 </I>><i> >> > >
100 </I>><i> >> > >19:
02 <nim
> and
101 </I>><i> >> > >19:
02 <nim
> mlock +R
102 </I>><i> >> > >19:
02 <mithrandi
> done
103 </I>><i> >> > >19:
02 <nim
> just for curiosities sake
104 </I>><i> >> > >19:
02 -!- ChanServ [
<A HREF=
"http://lists.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">services at shadowfire.org
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105 </I>><i> >> > >19:
02 -!- mode/#testquux [+b *!mithrandi@*.telkomadsl.co.za] by
106 </I>><i> >ChanServ
107 </I>><i> >> > >19:
02 -!- mithtest was kicked from #testquux by ChanServ [You are not
108 </I>><i> >> > >permitted to be on this channel.]
109 </I>><i> >> > >19:
02 -!- mode/#testquux [+q mithrandi] by ChanServ
110 </I>><i> >> > >
111 </I>><i> >> > >
112 </I>><i> >> > ><08:
06:
17> -!- Irssi: Changed to shadowfire server
65.110.62.93
113 </I>><i> >> > ><08:
08:
30> [shadowfire] -!- [Services.ShadowFire.ORG]
114 </I>><i> >ircservices-
5.0.60
115 </I>><i> >> > >Services.ShadowFire.ORG build #
1, compiled Sat Mar
24 15:
02:
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157 </I>><i> * Craig
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