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"[IRCServices] IrcServices enforcing +R">Craig at frostycoolslug.com
19 <I>Wed Mar
28 17:
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34 <PRE>I agree with you and Andy, there's also the issue of checking whether
35 the user has permission on services side to perform the specific
36 invite, for your +R case, it would need to be ensure that the user has
37 permission to change the MLOCK on the channel before the invite could
38 be allowed, with normal procedure for this being:
40 /cs set #channel mlock -R
43 /cs set #channel mlock +R
45 which adds another level of complexity to what is being asked (Also
46 note this would be added for one, maybe two, IRCd(s)).
48 What it all comes down to, is I don't believe that the behaviour of an
49 IRCd should dictate the behaviour of Services.
51 It's just my
2c, and at the end of the day, it comes down to Andy to
52 make the final call ;)
56 On
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03/
07, Kieron Thwaites
<<A HREF=
"http://lists.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ron2k.za at gmail.com
</A>> wrote:
57 ><i> You do have a valid point there, however my opinion is that it won't
58 </I>><i> be worth adding the extra complexity to deal with special cases (such
59 </I>><i> as invited users). There's a FAQ entry dealing with a similar issue,
60 </I>><i> although I'm uncertain whether or not Andrew would extend it to
61 </I>><i> something like this.
63 </I>><i> Incidentally, Services exhibits this behaviour in other cases as well.
64 </I>><i> If you /invite a user who's on the channel AKICK list, for example,
65 </I>><i> Services will still kick the user out, even if the user was able to
66 </I>><i> walk though bans set by Services because of said /invite.
70 </I>><i> On
28/
03/
07,
<A HREF=
"http://lists.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">nim at shadowfire.org
</A> <<A HREF=
"http://lists.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">nim at shadowfire.org
</A>> wrote:
71 </I>><i> > The problem is, the ircd explicitly allows methods to bypass +R, yet ircservices doesnt, such as /inviting for instance.
73 </I>><i> > Also, just my
2 cents worth.
78 </I>><i> > On Wed, Mar
28,
2007 at
03:
12:
25PM +
0200, Kieron Thwaites wrote:
79 </I>><i> > > I have to say that I'm in agreement with Andrew here. If you mlock +R,
80 </I>><i> > > you're implying that you want Services to enforce it.
82 </I>><i> > > Just my
2 cents worth.
84 </I>><i> > > --K
86 </I>><i> > > On
28/
03/
07,
<A HREF=
"http://lists.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">nim at shadowfire.org
</A> <<A HREF=
"http://lists.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">nim at shadowfire.org
</A>> wrote:
87 </I>><i> > > >
88 </I>><i> > > >
89 </I>><i> > > >> If ChanServ
"joins
", you're not using IRC Services.
90 </I>><i> > > >
91 </I>><i> > > >
92 </I>><i> > > >19:
02 <nim
> and
93 </I>><i> > > >19:
02 <nim
> mlock +R
94 </I>><i> > > >19:
02 <mithrandi
> done
95 </I>><i> > > >19:
02 <nim
> just for curiosities sake
96 </I>><i> > > >19:
02 -!- ChanServ [
<A HREF=
"http://lists.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">services at shadowfire.org
</A>] has joined #testquux
97 </I>><i> > > >19:
02 -!- mode/#testquux [+b *!mithrandi@*.telkomadsl.co.za] by ChanServ
98 </I>><i> > > >19:
02 -!- mithtest was kicked from #testquux by ChanServ [You are not
99 </I>><i> > > >permitted to be on this channel.]
100 </I>><i> > > >19:
02 -!- mode/#testquux [+q mithrandi] by ChanServ
101 </I>><i> > > >
102 </I>><i> > > >
103 </I>><i> > > ><08:
06:
17> -!- Irssi: Changed to shadowfire server
65.110.62.93
104 </I>><i> > > ><08:
08:
30> [shadowfire] -!- [Services.ShadowFire.ORG] ircservices-
5.0.60
105 </I>><i> > > >Services.ShadowFire.ORG build #
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24 15:
02:
53 EDT
2007
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