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34 <PRE>I agree with this, also, at the end of the day,
90% of users dont want to know they are +r, and probably
70% of them dont even know what +r is. I cant (personally) see any practical use for it. Generally the message 'Password accepted, you are now identified, have a nice day' is enough to say they have identified properly. If they really wanted to know, as has been mentioned by everyone before they can do a /mode. If someone can give me five valid reasons why a user should know that they have had the +r mode added, i'd concider thinking about it more. Untill then, i'm personally happy with SVSMODE.
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52 ><i> I agree with Yusuf here--since the user can get their modes with /mode
53 </I>><i>anyway, there's no sense in having a command that hides the change from
54 </I>><i>them. And even if there was, every other ircd with SVSMODE informs the
55 </I>><i>user upon an SVSMODE mode change, so if Unreal is going to make two
56 </I>><i>commands, they should make SVS2MODE the one that doesn't inform the user.
57 </I>><i>So the official answer is no, I'm not going to modify Services to support
58 </I>><i>this Unreal feature; if it bothers you, bug the Unreal developers until
59 </I>><i>they change/remove it. (I'll be sending a message their way myself.)
61 </I>><i> --Andrew Church
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65 </I>>><i>The view at the other end (the Unreal coders) is that it's
66 </I>>><i>a Services issue and not an ircd one. I tend to share that
67 </I>>><i>view - by having Services giving the option to choose
68 </I>>><i>between SVSMODE and SVS2MODE, it gives the end user much
69 </I>>><i>more choice.
71 </I>>><i>Unfortunately, judging by your reply, it looks like (for
72 </I>>><i>now anyway) the only solution will be to manually modify
73 </I>>><i>the unreal protocol module so that it uses SVS2MODE instead
74 </I>>><i>of SVSMODE. I'm not sure that everyone out there will have
75 </I>>><i>the necessary skill or programming knowledge to do that.
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82 </I>>><i>Date: Sun,
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83 </I>>><i>From: Yusuf Iskenderoglu
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84 </I>>><i>Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Feature Request - SVSMODE vs
85 </I>>><i>SVS2MODE with
87 </I>>><i>To: IRC Services General Mailing List
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93 </I>>><i>Since a user may inform themselves at ANY time using
94 </I>>><i>/mode
<nickname
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95 </I>>><i>which modes they have,
97 </I>>><i>it makes absolutely no sense to distinguish between a
98 </I>>><i>SVSMODE and
99 </I>>><i>SVS2MODE, where the first hides the MODE change from the
100 </I>>><i>user, and the
101 </I>>><i>latter does not.
103 </I>>><i>Please ask your unreal coders to merge the whole content of
104 </I>>><i>SVS2MODE
105 </I>>><i>into SVSMODE and remove SVS2MODE completely.
107 </I>>><i>IMHO, this is a case services shall not handle.
109 </I>>><i>Regards;
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