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15 <B>Nessun</B>
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19 <I>Tue May 6 09:07:00 PDT 2003</I>
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34 <PRE>bahamut was definatly considered as i ran it before on a net i was with. It
35 was very stable has a memory leak which can be annoying but over all still
36 uses more bandwidth and cpu then hybrid and i figured if im gonna go through
37 the trouble of changing y not use the ircd one of the most stable nets there
38 is especially for there size uses.
39
40 also i had been talking with a channel on our net ith 600 xdccs and there
41 bots were showing up in our firewalls and we could not figure out why it was
42 taking them as an attack but this morning after some long talks they decided
43 to move.
44 our bandwidth on one of our servers went from 400k out and 200k in to 20k in
45 and 80k out a seriously huge difference that i cannot seem to figure out
46 why. <A HREF="http://mrtg.corezx.com/">http://mrtg.corezx.com/</A> u can see the exact instant they moved there
47 bots. and yes there xdccs but we have more xdccs then them still on the net
48 and are using way less abandwidth so not sure what was so special about
49 there they were only the #3 channel on the net
50
51 ----- Original Message -----
52 From: &quot;Andrew Kempe&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">andrewk at isdial.net</A>&gt;
53 To: &quot;IRC Services General Mailing List&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>&gt;
54 Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 12:00 PM
55 Subject: Re: [IRCServices] ircservices with hybrid
56
57
58 &gt;<i> Excuse the assumptions, but hopefully I'm not swining around too much in
59 </I>the
60 &gt;<i> dark...
61 </I>&gt;<i>
62 </I>&gt;<i> I assume by the names of the ircds you've mentioned below that you're
63 </I>using
64 &gt;<i> an ircd that has been customised with a large number of features? If this
65 </I>is
66 &gt;<i> the case, they're probably the reason why your network seems to be
67 </I>consuming
68 &gt;<i> so much bandwidth; hence why you've chosen a more bandwidth optimised
69 </I>ircd.
70 &gt;<i>
71 </I>&gt;<i> My question is, if I'm correct about the features and if you've decided to
72 </I>&gt;<i> sacrifice them, why not choose and ircd that has fewer features but is
73 </I>more
74 &gt;<i> compatible with services? Is bahamut as much of a bandwidth hog as these
75 </I>&gt;<i> other ircds appear to be? As a result of their very large userbase, DALnet
76 </I>&gt;<i> have definitely made an effort to make their ircd bandwidth friendly.
77 </I>You'll
78 &gt;<i> probably find that at the (possible) cost of a little more bandwidth,
79 </I>you'll
80 &gt;<i> have far more support and a far longer upgrade path than if you go ahead
81 </I>&gt;<i> with the extensive modifications you'll need to make to hybrid.
82 </I>&gt;<i>
83 </I>&gt;<i> Just a thought.
84 </I>&gt;<i>
85 </I>&gt;<i> Andrew
86 </I>&gt;<i>
87 </I>&gt;<i>
88 </I>&gt;<i> ----- Original Message -----
89 </I>&gt;<i> From: &quot;Nessun&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">Nessun at rizon.net</A>&gt;
90 </I>&gt;<i> To: &quot;IRC Services General Mailing List&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>&gt;
91 </I>&gt;<i> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 4:27 PM
92 </I>&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] ircservices with hybrid
93 </I>&gt;<i>
94 </I>&gt;<i>
95 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; on the bandwidth a 1000 user client server is pushing 600 gigs a month
96 </I>&gt;<i> very
97 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; abnormal for us i ran a net before and was pushing 200-300gigs a month
98 </I>on
99 &gt;<i> a
100 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2000 user client server both being warez nets. we have tested hybrid to
101 </I>&gt;<i> use
102 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; literally 1/3 the bandwidth for us then viagra ircd(a bug fixed titan
103 </I>&gt;<i> ircd).
104 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; and we 2 coders taht are extremly good at coding hybrid ircd and epona
105 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; problem is my epona coder is too busy atm and hybrid coder trying to do
106 </I>&gt;<i> both
107 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
108 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; ----- Original Message -----
109 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; From: &quot;CPUMAN&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">cpuman2000 at hotmail.com</A>&gt;
110 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; To: &quot;IRC Services General Mailing List&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>&gt;
111 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 9:35 AM
112 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; Subject: Re: [IRCServices] ircservices with hybrid
113 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
114 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
115 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Yah I'd have to agree with David on that. A 4,000-5,000 user network
116 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; simply
117 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; is going to use a good amount of bandwidth. Changing IRCds would make
118 </I>a
119 &gt;<i> &gt; &gt; minute bandwidth improvement at best. That is unless your current IRCd
120 </I>&gt;<i> is
121 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; so
122 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; unbelievably inefficient that it's wasteful with bandwidth, which is
123 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; unlikely.
124 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
125 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; As for converting a database it's fairly straight forward I don't
126 </I>&gt;<i> remember
127 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; the exact details on how to do it atm as I'm about brain dead atm
128 </I>(sleep
129 &gt;<i> &gt; &gt; deprivation :P).
130 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
131 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I don't recommend you continue trying to hack Epona, unless you and
132 </I>your
133 &gt;<i> &gt; &gt; staff really know what your doing. I've seen some horrific sites of
134 </I>&gt;<i> people
135 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; modifying services programs and them crashing on an hourly basis.
136 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
137 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; CPUMAN
138 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Serenia IRC Network
139 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; irc.serenia.net
140 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
141 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; ----- Original Message -----
142 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; From: &quot;Ballsy&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ballsy at mystical.net</A>&gt;
143 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; To: &quot;IRC Services General Mailing List&quot;
144 </I>&lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>&gt;
145 &gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 9:08 PM
146 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [IRCServices] ircservices with hybrid
147 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
148 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
149 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Do you think changing your IRCd will really decrease your
150 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; bandwidth utilisation an appreciable amount ? Granted, I haven't
151 </I>&gt;<i> tested
152 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; the differences in b/w utilization across different IRCds, but I
153 </I>would
154 &gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; guess that the main difference you'll see is in CPU and memory
155 </I>usage.
156 &gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
157 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; David
158 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
159 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
160 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Quoth Nessun on May 6 at 01:44,
161 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
162 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; hi i run a net about 4000-5000 users and plan to expand as soon as
163 </I>I
164 &gt;<i> &gt; can
165 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; change ircd as the one im using is eatcing up excess bandwidth. My
166 </I>plans
167 &gt;<i> &gt; are
168 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; to change to hybrid which since epona(our current services) doesnt
169 </I>&gt;<i> support
170 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; hybrid this obviously brings up an issue. I am looking for 1 of 2
171 </I>&gt;<i> options.
172 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
173 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 1st would be the best u could help me by knowing someone who has
174 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; ircservices working with hybrid or would be willing to assist us with
175 </I>it
176 &gt;<i> &gt; and
177 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; we could convert our database to ircservices
178 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
179 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 2. we continue our efforts to mod epona and hybrid to link up with
180 </I>&gt;<i> one
181 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; another.
182 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
183 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 3 is going ok but at this rate taking much too long than needed.
184 </I>Our
185 &gt;<i> &gt; &gt; servers are using about 1 months worth of bandwidth in 20 days so we
186 </I>are
187 &gt;<i> &gt; &gt; forced to either shut them off or pay serious overages. So the
188 </I>decision
189 &gt;<i> we
190 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; make must be expediant.
191 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
192 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Any assist u can give me with this will be very very appreciated.
193 </I>I
194 &gt;<i> &gt; ask
195 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; that u please email me back even if its to say you dont have the time
196 </I>i
197 &gt;<i> &gt; will
198 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; understand but prefer to hear that then wait for ever on nothing.
199 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
200 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Thank you in advance
201 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
202 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Irc.Rizon.Net
203 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Net Admin
204 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Nessun
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