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  15     <B>Dylan v.d Merwe</B>
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  19     <I>Mon Jan 20 21:20:01 PST 2003</I>
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  34 <PRE>And the reason you would want to use SVSNOOP is because...? In Unreal you
  35 can use the 'quarantine flag in the class:: block. If a server is
  36 misbehaving then I would simply jupe them. There is no reason why anyone
  37 besides a coder or debugger should ever need to use RAW.
  38
  39 Dylan.
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  41
  42 ----- Original Message -----
  43 From: &quot;Ekim Engin&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ekim at hadiko.de</A>&gt;
  44 To: &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>&gt;
  45 Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:11 PM
  46 Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Raw
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  49 On Monday 20 January 2003 20:04, Russell Garrett wrote:
  50 &gt;<i> Reasons NOT to use raw:
  51 </I>&gt;<i>
  52 </I>&gt;<i> - You can crash the services hub or even the whole network with one
  53 </I>&gt;<i> command. - Little to no accountability.
  54 </I>&gt;<i> - Some (most?) raw commands have repurcussions that you need a
  55 </I>&gt;<i> working knowledge of ircd/services internals to understand.
  56 </I>&gt;<i>
  57 </I>&gt;<i> And the #1 reason is:
  58 </I>&gt;<i> - It's not actually useful (yay, you can svsnick people... why do you
  59 </I>&gt;<i> need to? you can add services pseudo-clients to channels... and
  60 </I>&gt;<i> increase services link traffic.)! I've yet to see a decent reason to
  61 </I>&gt;<i> use it.
  62 </I>&gt;<i>
  63 </I>&gt;<i> Russ
  64 </I>&gt;<i>
  65 </I>Reason to use Raw:
  66
  67 it IS the only way of using the SVSNOOP command
  68
  69 Greets Ekim
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