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  15     <B>Russell Garrett</B>
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  19     <I>Mon Jan 20 21:18:00 PST 2003</I>
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  34 <PRE>Congratulations on being the first person to suggest a decent legitimate use
  35 of raw to me :). This wouldn't be very tricky to add an operserv command for
  36 though - I'm sure I've seen it on other services. So consider this a feature
  37 request :).
  38
  39 Russ
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  41 &gt;<i> -----Original Message-----
  42 </I>&gt;<i> From: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net</A>
  43 </I>&gt;<i> [mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net</A>]On Behalf Of Ekim Engin
  44 </I>&gt;<i> Sent: 20 January 2003 19:11
  45 </I>&gt;<i> To: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>
  46 </I>&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Raw
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  48 </I>&gt;<i>
  49 </I>&gt;<i> On Monday 20 January 2003 20:04, Russell Garrett wrote:
  50 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; Reasons NOT to use raw:
  51 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
  52 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; - You can crash the services hub or even the whole network with one
  53 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; command. - Little to no accountability.
  54 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; - Some (most?) raw commands have repurcussions that you need a
  55 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; working knowledge of ircd/services internals to understand.
  56 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
  57 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; And the #1 reason is:
  58 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; - It's not actually useful (yay, you can svsnick people... why do you
  59 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; need to? you can add services pseudo-clients to channels... and
  60 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; increase services link traffic.)! I've yet to see a decent reason to
  61 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; use it.
  62 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
  63 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; Russ
  64 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
  65 </I>&gt;<i> Reason to use Raw:
  66 </I>&gt;<i>
  67 </I>&gt;<i> it IS the only way of using the SVSNOOP command
  68 </I>&gt;<i>
  69 </I>&gt;<i> Greets Ekim
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