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  15     <B>Craig Edwards</B>
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  17        TITLE="[IRCServices] Bug in mode locked keys in 5.0.6">brain at brainbox.winbot.co.uk
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  19     <I>Thu Jan  2 03:53:00 PST 2003</I>
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  34 <PRE>There has to be some way of doing this without use of a bot, e.g. in services. As it stands services gives away the key of a channel to whoever enters first, and this person may not be on the access list and/or may not be welcome so this is not a good idea. People have been known to use this as a way to steal a channel's key, and users will insist on security that involves nothing more than a mode locked key... so anything would be good, as we cant really say to users &quot;the ability to lock a key is part of services but you shouldnt use it as it can be exploited&quot; - if this is the case its not worth having the feature in the code at all :) ... Suggestions anyone?
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  36 &gt;<i>On Wednesday 01 January 2003 05:36 pm, Craig Edwards wrote:
  37 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> the idea of services is supposed to be that users shouldnt need to run
  38 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> bots?
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  40 </I>&gt;<i>no its not...
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  42 </I>&gt;<i>     &quot;Services provides for definitive nickname and channel ownership, as well as
  43 </I>&gt;<i>     the ability to send messages (&quot;memos&quot;) to offline users, and gives IRC
  44 </I>&gt;<i>     operators considerably more control over the network.&quot;
  45 </I>&gt;<i>
  46 </I>&gt;<i>     &quot;Channel management. Like nicknames, Services allows users to register
  47 </I>&gt;<i>     channels as well. A channel's owner can give privileges to other users of the
  48 </I>&gt;<i>     channel, such as auto-opping or the ability to set various channel options,
  49 </I>&gt;<i>     or conversely deny other users the ability to obtain channel operator
  50 </I>&gt;<i>     privileges or even enter the channel altogether. Services will remember the
  51 </I>&gt;<i>     topic on the channel even after the last user leaves, and can automatically
  52 </I>&gt;<i>     set modes on the channel whenever a user joins it.&quot;
  53 </I>&gt;<i>
  54 </I>&gt;<i>doesn't say anything about keeping modes while the channel is empty...
  55 </I>&gt;<i>besides... putting a pseudo in the channel isn't the answer... services
  56 </I>&gt;<i>aren't supposed to sit in channels
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