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19 <I>Fri May
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34 <PRE>wasn't heh, sorry
35 ----- Original Message -----
36 From:
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37 To:
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38 Sent: Friday, May
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39 Subject: Re: Proxy scanning (was RE: [IRCServices] Another Feature
43 ><i> btw, I was suggesting floodserv as a proxy monitor but as a
45 ><i> flood monitor.
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48 </I>><i> From:
"Russell Garrett
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50 </I>><i> Sent: Friday, May
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51 </I>><i> Subject: RE: Proxy scanning (was RE: [IRCServices] Another Feature
52 </I>><i> Suggestion)
55 </I>><i> > > Since Services
5 will (or at very least could, given
56 </I>><i> > > coding for a module)
57 </I>><i> > > sport global Z: line management, would it make sense to
58 </I>><i> > > have it send a
59 </I>><i> > > message so that it adds your desired Z: line to Services?
60 </I>><i> > > Or should one
61 </I>><i> > > collect up the accumulated Z: lines on the respective
62 </I>><i> > > servers BOPM is
63 </I>><i> > > running on and manually add them later?
65 </I>><i> > The only problem with this is the single-point-of-failure problem: If
66 </I>><i> > someone DoSes your Services server, or the services hub off, then the
67 </I>><i> > point of having a seperate proxy monitor on each server is defeated,
68 </I>><i> > as they can't submit their z:lines.
70 </I>><i> > The most resilient solution, at least with BOPM, is to get each
71 </I>><i> > individual BOPM bot to submit by e-mail to blitzednet's DNS blacklist
72 </I>><i> > (you have to e-mail them to set this up, but it's very efficient) -
73 </I>><i> > all the other BOPM proxy monitors on your network and everywhere else
74 </I>><i> > will then pick compromised hosts up almost immediately using the
75 </I>><i> > blacklist lookup, without having to scan. This removes the
76 </I>><i> > single-point-of-failure problem (well I suppose someone could still
77 </I>><i> > DoS the blacklist server, but that would only slow down the k:lining
78 </I>><i> > of proxybots - if you're that paranoid you could use your own
79 </I>><i> > blacklist server).
81 </I>><i> > Russ Garrett
82 </I>><i> > <A HREF=
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