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15 <B>Ross Hosman</B>
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19 <I>Fri May 31 14:58:01 PDT 2002</I>
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34 <PRE>wasn't heh, sorry
35 ----- Original Message -----
36 From: &quot;Ross Hosman&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">rosshosman at charter.net</A>&gt;
37 To: &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>&gt;
38 Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 7:51 AM
39 Subject: Re: Proxy scanning (was RE: [IRCServices] Another Feature
40 Suggestion)
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43 &gt;<i> btw, I was suggesting floodserv as a proxy monitor but as a
44 </I>channel/network
45 &gt;<i> flood monitor.
46 </I>&gt;<i>
47 </I>&gt;<i> ----- Original Message -----
48 </I>&gt;<i> From: &quot;Russell Garrett&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">rg at tcslon.com</A>&gt;
49 </I>&gt;<i> To: &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>&gt;
50 </I>&gt;<i> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 5:17 AM
51 </I>&gt;<i> Subject: RE: Proxy scanning (was RE: [IRCServices] Another Feature
52 </I>&gt;<i> Suggestion)
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54 </I>&gt;<i>
55 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Since Services 5 will (or at very least could, given
56 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; coding for a module)
57 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; sport global Z: line management, would it make sense to
58 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; have it send a
59 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; message so that it adds your desired Z: line to Services?
60 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Or should one
61 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; collect up the accumulated Z: lines on the respective
62 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; servers BOPM is
63 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; running on and manually add them later?
64 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
65 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; The only problem with this is the single-point-of-failure problem: If
66 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; someone DoSes your Services server, or the services hub off, then the
67 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; point of having a seperate proxy monitor on each server is defeated,
68 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; as they can't submit their z:lines.
69 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
70 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; The most resilient solution, at least with BOPM, is to get each
71 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; individual BOPM bot to submit by e-mail to blitzednet's DNS blacklist
72 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; (you have to e-mail them to set this up, but it's very efficient) -
73 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; all the other BOPM proxy monitors on your network and everywhere else
74 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; will then pick compromised hosts up almost immediately using the
75 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; blacklist lookup, without having to scan. This removes the
76 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; single-point-of-failure problem (well I suppose someone could still
77 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; DoS the blacklist server, but that would only slow down the k:lining
78 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; of proxybots - if you're that paranoid you could use your own
79 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; blacklist server).
80 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
81 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; Russ Garrett
82 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">russ at garrett.co.uk</A>
83 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; www.faereal.net
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