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  15     <B>Andrew Church</B>
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  17        TITLE="[IRCServices] /ns ghost exploit">achurch at achurch.org
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  19     <I>Fri Mar 15 03:28:00 PST 2002</I>
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  34 <PRE>     This is basically what I was trying to say.  In response to the
  35 comment that GHOST could check the target's recognized/identified status
  36 before killing, suppose the user hasn't identified when they get
  37 disconnected (maybe their connection dropped just as they connected to IRC,
  38 or maybe they didn't identify for some other reason)?
  39
  40      The main point, though, is that if the person in question has
  41 registered/linked those nicks, then from Services' point of view (and mine
  42 as well) those nicks belong to that person, and they can do whatever they
  43 want with them, including killing new users who try to use them.  As I said
  44 before, if you have users abusing the command, deal with the users
  45 individually; denying such people this one particular avenue of mischief
  46 will just push them into another anyway.
  47
  48   --Andrew Church
  49     <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">achurch at achurch.org</A>
  50     <A HREF="http://achurch.org/">http://achurch.org/</A>
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  52 &gt;<i>Are you guys forgetting what ghost is for??? If you get disconnected (ping
  53 </I>&gt;<i>timeout or such) and the server hasn't realized that you're disconnecte. You
  54 </I>&gt;<i>reconnect and you're still showing as being connected. You then GHOST the
  55 </I>&gt;<i>old connection so you may claim your nickname. Why would you want services
  56 </I>&gt;<i>to change the name of the old connection?
  57 </I>&gt;<i>
  58 </I>&gt;<i>You're getting too selfish. GHOST does not have an exploit, it's simply some
  59 </I>&gt;<i>immature users abusing a function which is working perfectly well. I have
  60 </I>&gt;<i>_never_ seen this happen before in my years of IRCing, so it's obviously an
  61 </I>&gt;<i>isolated incident.
  62 </I>&gt;<i>
  63 </I>&gt;<i>Either talk to your users about their maturity level and abuse, or else talk
  64 </I>&gt;<i>to the users trying to connect about changing their nicks, because the nicks
  65 </I>&gt;<i>they're trying to use are already registered. It's not that difficult of a
  66 </I>&gt;<i>concept, and I don't believe that Services should be changed due to a small
  67 </I>&gt;<i>situation you're having with a select few people.
  68 </I>&gt;<i>
  69 </I>&gt;<i>~Ganja51
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