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14 <H1>AW: AW: AW: [IRCServices] Backup databases?</H1>
15 <B>Duane Groth</B>
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19 <I>Wed Nov 14 22:01:00 PST 2001</I>
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34 <PRE>Hello Josh,
35
36 Yes that's all good and well, but that is like having your head in the
37 sand thinking nothing will ever happen, the server I do have them on
38 currently has 100 days approx, last reboot was due to kernel upgrade,
39 I'm merely preparing for the worst, in the event something will
40 happen, I've been an ISP admin, and server admin too long to know
41 better then to be naive about it all.
42
43 --
44 Best regards,
45 Duane mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">duane at groth.net</A>
46
47 Wednesday, November 14, 2001, 11:51:10 PM, you wrote:
48
49 J&gt; On 14 Nov 2001, at 7:58, Duane Groth wrote:
50
51 J&gt; Its easier having 1 set of services on a really stable box that never
52 J&gt; goes down.. but thats only possible if you only have a few or just
53 J&gt; yourself knowing the ip to the hub and keep it that way by only
54 J&gt; adding c/n's to a couple other hubs and never link client servers
55 J&gt; directly to it. we have this setup on my net and it works well.
56
57 J&gt; (services hub ircd:)
58 J&gt; Server Up 169 days, 11:23:14
59
60 &gt;&gt;<i> Hello Georges,
61 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>
62 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> As I said originally, I would like to see this feature purely for a
63 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> redundancy point of view, as I have a reasonably setup IRC network,
64 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> the DNS probes the IRC servers and removes dead server
65 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> automatically, I have the IRC servers each setup with multiple hubs,
66 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> so in the event of any one hub dying there is redundancy to keep the
67 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> network together, however I am unable to think of a suitable way of
68 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> making services redundant, and in the event of failure of the
69 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> primary server that it's linking into the network with, for whatever
70 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> reason, a secondary will kick in, with read only, so that people can
71 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> authenticate, but not change details, this is the only single point
72 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> of failure on my network that requires manual intervention.
73 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>
74 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
75 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> Best regards,
76 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> Duane mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">duane at groth.net</A>
77 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>
78 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> Wednesday, November 14, 2001, 7:45:01 AM, you wrote:
79 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>
80 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; I like the idea of managing nicks through the browser, which is very much
81 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; more intuitive for many users who have no knowledge about IRC and only know
82 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; that they can type text into their client.
83 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; It is really intresting for very small networks who pretend to have a
84 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; 'community'. People will be able to share much more information when
85 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; registering their nick on the web. This registration can be passed on to
86 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; nickserv who uses the same information than in the Userinfo Database on the
87 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; web.
88 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; People will even be able to change their IRC-Settings in their browser.
89 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>
90 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; It took me quite a number of hours to hack something like this into services
91 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; though, so I would appreciate if there was a possibility (i.e. interface) to
92 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; re-organise all this and make it a little more structured.
93 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>
94 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; Georges
95 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>
96 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
97 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; Von: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net</A>
98 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; [mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net</A>]Im Auftrag von Craig McLure
99 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. November 2001 21:28
100 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; An: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>
101 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; Betreff: RE: AW: AW: [IRCServices] Backup databases?
102 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>
103 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>
104 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; Lol..
105 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; MySQL, does that mean ppl will be able to reg nicks and manage nicks in
106 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; their web browser?
107 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; Interesting concept :P
108 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; But wouldn't that mean pw encryption?
109 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>
110 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; -----Original Message-----
111 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; From: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net</A>
112 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; [mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net</A>] On Behalf Of Duane Groth
113 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; Sent: 13 November 2001 20:08
114 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; To: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>
115 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; Subject: Re: AW: AW: [IRCServices] Backup databases?
116 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>
117 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; Hello,
118 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>
119 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; No, but have the option of choosing MySQL for database, or using
120 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; it's own flat file format, the side benefit from this would be easier
121 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; web interfaces with PHP and the like, this unlike some simple
122 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; scripting has to be done in services itself. You should be using scp
123 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; or
124 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; similar for the remote archiving anyway, if you employ RSA/DSA keys
125 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; it's 1000x more secure, not to mention easier to script, hell you
126 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; can even setup your remote script to trigger tar/bzip, then the next
127 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; line to scp it off, so that you don't need to have 2 cron processes
128 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; going.
129 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>
130 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; --
131 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; Best regards,
132 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; Duane mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">duane at groth.net</A>
133 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>
134 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; Wednesday, November 14, 2001, 6:58:11 AM, you wrote:
135 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>
136 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt;&gt; Re,
137 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>
138 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt;&gt; well, MySQL support is nice, but not really suitable for everybody
139 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; (e.g.
140 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt;&gt; users that don't have a MySQL account). The FTP-Upload thing would
141 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt; probably
142 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> GB&gt;&gt; do the job for most people.
143 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>
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164 J&gt; -------------------------------------
165 J&gt; -- Josh Kirkorian [aka Poison-X]
166 J&gt; -- Administrator - irc.insiderz.net
167
168 J&gt; C Code. C code run. Run, code, run...
169 J&gt; Segmentation fault (core dumped).. aww shit
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