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  15     <B>Jonathan Morton</B>
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  19     <I>Fri Nov  2 08:25:08 PST 2001</I>
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  34 <PRE>&gt;<i>  &gt; &gt;  &gt;Related to this, I'd rather like an option to be opped on my channels
  35 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>  &gt;&gt;as soon as I *have* identified, rather than having to issue OP
  36 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>  &gt;&gt;commands just because the JOIN command beat my IDENTIFY command
  37 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>  &gt;&gt;through the post.
  38 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>  &gt;
  39 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>  &gt;      This has been requested by a number of people and is being
  40 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>considered.
  41 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>  &gt;(On the other hand, as long as you send /ns identify first this won't be a
  42 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>  &gt;problem...)
  43 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>
  44 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>  Ah, problem is the IRCd responds quicker than Services, so a list of
  45 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>  commands in a connection script can - and usually do - get
  46 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>  re-ordered.  This is true even on a single-server network, and is
  47 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>  presumably much worse on a lagged multi-server network.
  48 </I>&gt;<i>
  49 </I>&gt;<i>Reordered?  Sounds like a client issue.
  50 </I>&gt;<i>
  51 </I>&gt;<i>If the client sends the identify command before the join command, services
  52 </I>&gt;<i>will work as expected.  Since services is delayed, there's no reason it
  53 </I>&gt;<i>would see the join _before_ the identify.
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  55 Seen using two completely different clients - Ircle and X-Chat.
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