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  15     <B>Finny Merrill</B>
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  19     <I>Sun Oct 28 21:55:01 PST 2001</I>
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  34 <PRE>I completely agree,  TKL glines are not the best thing for services
  35 to use. As a matter of fact, I think they were designed for the sole
  36 purpose of running without services.
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  38 If unreal had something like bahamut's timed AKILL, then I would use that.
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  40 Unreal already has ZLINE and AKILL commands, so using TKL is just
  41 redundant, the only thing I could think of would be for adding shuns
  42 via services, which has the same problems.
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  44 However, TKL does have good things about it. If TKL is supported, I want
  45 to see all three global modes (s, G, and Z) supported. Z mode so
  46 far is not implemented in ANY piece of software.
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  48 I personally prefer TKL over the AKILL and ZLINE commands, as it generally
  49 works much better. But ron has a good point, it does have that
  50 server-squit error thingy.
  51
  52 On Sun, 28 Oct 2001 <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ron885 at linuxfreemail.com</A> wrote:
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  54 &gt;<i> At Sun, 28 Oct 2001 15:00:00 JST , <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">achurch at achurch.org</A> (Andrew Church) wrote:
  55 </I>&gt;<i>
  56 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;2001/10/28      Added support for the Unreal TKL (timed K:line) message.
  57 </I>&gt;<i>
  58 </I>&gt;<i> I just downloaded the patch and tested it out and found one problem with having services send a TKL, which is really a gline.
  59 </I>&gt;<i>
  60 </I>&gt;<i> if the tkl is set to expire in say 10 days, and a server squits, and than someone removes the tkl, and the server comes back, it'll set the gline back and those people will be banned. also, why even set a gline in the first place, if we wanted to set a gline we would use /gline if we want an akill we'll use /os akill...
  61 </I>&gt;<i>
  62 </I>&gt;<i> just some thoughts, don't want to sound too harsh
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