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17 <B>Fox Moss</B>
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22 <I>Fri Jun 22 18:00:05 PDT 2001</I>
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37 <PRE>so the question is if we are looking for something like &quot;X&quot; in UnderNet or
38 dumb bots
39
40 I'd go for dumb bots, X in undernet just keeps the channels open because of
41 the absence of services. and we've got the almighty chanserv ;p
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43 Fox
44
45 At 10:18 &#240;&#236; 22-06-01 +0000, you wrote:
46
47 &gt;<i>Okay, both ideas have their pros and cons, it
48 </I>&gt;<i>all depends on what you want from Services.
49 </I>&gt;<i>
50 </I>&gt;<i>In either case, an option to NOT have whatever
51 </I>&gt;<i>is chosen would be a very good idea.
52 </I>&gt;<i>
53 </I>&gt;<i>With the screen idea, it's not that hard to code
54 </I>&gt;<i>and if all you want is a simple 'dumb' bot to
55 </I>&gt;<i>keep a channel open when there are no users in it
56 </I>&gt;<i>that's fine. If however you want something more
57 </I>&gt;<i>like an interactive 'clone' of ChanServ, then the
58 </I>&gt;<i>BotServ idea is the way to go.
59 </I>&gt;<i>
60 </I>&gt;<i>Personally, I'm more likely to go with the BotServ
61 </I>&gt;<i>idea, this is simply because users are always
62 </I>&gt;<i>asking for ways that their channels can stay open
63 </I>&gt;<i>24/7 without them having to spend money, learn
64 </I>&gt;<i>UNIX/Eggdrop/etc... BotServ would most likely
65 </I>&gt;<i>fit the bill for that. Perhaps have a limit as
66 </I>&gt;<i>to how many users a channel MUST have before a
67 </I>&gt;<i>Botserv bot can join? I believe Epona services
68 </I>&gt;<i>has the botserv feature in it. Perhaps looking
69 </I>&gt;<i>at that and perhaps compromising between the
70 </I>&gt;<i>screen idea and the botserv idea would be a
71 </I>&gt;<i>better idea overall for Services and it's users?
72 </I>&gt;<i>
73 </I>&gt;<i>In the end, the decision lies with the coders of
74 </I>&gt;<i>IRCServices and the users of IRCServices.
75 </I>&gt;<i>
76 </I>&gt;<i>Just my rant for today... (maybe)
77 </I>&gt;<i>
78 </I>&gt;<i>Quinn
79 </I>&gt;<i>
80 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;and why is that?
81 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
82 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;they get rid of the thousands of screen requests by users by having a=20
83 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;chanserv screen command as I said
84 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
85 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;Fox
86 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
87 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;At 07:09 =F0=EC 22-06-01 +0000, you wrote:
88 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;As long as there is a way of not having it, i'm happy :p It appears the=20
89 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;NetAdmins on our Net dont seem to want it.
90 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
91 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
92 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;From: &quot;[Real]&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">RealCFC at ChatFIRST.COM</A>&gt;
93 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;Reply-To: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>
94 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;To: &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>&gt;
95 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Question about possible future feature=
96 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; (BotServ)
97 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:04:38 -0700
98 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
99 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;I would really love to see some kind of BotServ included in future=20
100 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;versions of services, either a module or a default services new feature.
101 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;We do also run a fake user to act like a bot in some channels.
102 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;Ely
103 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; ----- Original Message -----
104 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; From: Strider
105 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; To: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>
106 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 2:17 PM
107 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: [IRCServices] Question about possible future feature
108 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
109 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
110 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Will there be a botserv or similar functions in services 5.0? I noticed
111 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; quite a few (including us) use operserv raw (cept we do it through a=20
112 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; hack to
113 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; services instead of just doing /operserv raw) to create virtual users=
114 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; to
115 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; hold channels open. Maybe this can be expanded on where they act like
116 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; chanserv, or maybe a module could be written or something. It'd be a=
117 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; nice
118 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; feature to actually have with services rather than have to make sure=
119 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; our
120 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; hack works with each update we do (we try to only update when a major=
121 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;=20
122 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; bug is
123 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; being fixed for this reason). If this is too=20
124 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; confusing...ummm...well...I'll
125 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; try to expand on it if I need to.
126 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
127 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Beau (Strider) Steward
128 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; chatcircuit administrator and 6bit band member
129 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">strider at chatcircuit.com</A> www.chatcircuit.com
130 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircadmin at chatcircuit.com</A> irc.chatcircuit.com
131 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">strider at 6bit.net</A> www.6bit.net
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