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  15     <B>Strider</B>
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  19     <I>Fri Mar 23 03:05:01 PST 2001</I>
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  34 <PRE>On our services we added some messages sent via globops. When someone
  35 registers a channel or a nick, we get a message saying they did so. You
  36 could implement something like this to the suspension. If a nick or channel
  37 becomes suspended due to bad passwords, send a globops, then an IRCop can
  38 deal with it when it happens.
  39
  40 Also, despite restricting the nickserv nick list, many servers list their
  41 ircops in their motd or website or both. IRCops are a very common target in
  42 IRC war. This very well could be annoying to an ircop to find their nick was
  43 suspended because someone decided they would like to have &quot;fun&quot;.
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  45 Now I have a suggestion for operserv. Allow ircop level access to operserv
  46 to anyone with their oline activated. I find it annoying that when I want to
  47 use another nick in good fun, I have to switch back to a registered nick
  48 with operserv access to use operserv. Maybe make it to where if the person
  49 is identified to nickserv, opered, and on the operserv access list, it
  50 doesn't run a quick check on the user via whois or something, but if the
  51 user is not on the access list, it runs a quick check via whois or something
  52 to see if the person is an oper. The access with the odd nick should be
  53 basic access (like if a root changes nicks, his access is brought down to
  54 ircop).
  55
  56 Beau (Strider) Steward
  57 chatcircuit administrator and 6bit band member
  58 <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">strider at chatcircuit.com</A>        www.chatcircuit.com
  59 <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircadmin at chatcircuit.com</A>     irc.chatcircuit.com
  60 <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">strider at 6bit.net</A>                    www.6bit.net
  61 ----- Original Message -----
  62 From: &quot;Andy Smith&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">andy at strugglers.net</A>&gt;
  63 To: &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>&gt;
  64 Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 4:53 PM
  65 Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Suggestion
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  67
  68 &gt;<i> Mark Hetherington &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">markh at eurodltd.co.uk</A>&gt; writes:
  69 </I>&gt;<i>
  70 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Maybe emulate the system used for Car radios etc. After the
  71 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; first failure of
  72 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; 3 &quot;suspend&quot; the nickname for 1 hour, then 2 hours then 4 hours
  73 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; etc until it
  74 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; is ultimately locked out entirely and an admin has to take
  75 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; steps to restore
  76 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; the nickname to the user after sufficient authentication.
  77 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
  78 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; A problem with this is that people then just try to identify to
  79 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; every nick there is, causing them all to be suspended and then no
  80 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; one can use NickServ...
  81 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
  82 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; Only possible if they know the nickname(s) and by limiting the list
  83 </I>commands
  84 &gt;<i> &gt; users cannot get to and try them all. Generally nickname attacks are
  85 </I>against
  86 &gt;<i> &gt; specific individuals for a reason not just to do it.
  87 </I>&gt;<i>
  88 </I>&gt;<i> So you think that if there were a simple, unstoppable way for
  89 </I>&gt;<i> someone to anonymously disable 50 or so nicknames, that no one would
  90 </I>&gt;<i> do it ever just for fun?  And what if they did have a grudge against
  91 </I>&gt;<i> an individual, that doesn't make it any more OK for them to be able
  92 </I>&gt;<i> to do it!
  93 </I>&gt;<i>
  94 </I>&gt;<i> --
  95 </I>&gt;<i> Andy Smith &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">andy at strugglers.net</A>&gt;
  96 </I>&gt;<i>
  97 </I>&gt;<i> &lt;thoughtless&gt; FUCK@ my knees hurt, i've been on them all day!
  98 </I>&gt;<i>
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