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34 <PRE>You need to keep in mind that not every Tom Dick and Harry is the most
35 computer literate person in the world or knows about making good passwords.
36 Many people try to make passwords they can remember, like the name of their
37 dog, their address, etc etc. It is very bad practice, but there is no way to
38 just go out to the world and tell everyone their password is insecure, blah
39 blah blah. Am I not right? I do try to tell my users to use strong
40 passwords. Some do, some don't. You don't just abandone those who chose not
41 to, because that is the majority, whether we like it or not.
43 If any feel this is a big issue and want it fixed, I suggest making a logon
44 news, motd entry, and a web page for your irc server stating the fact you
45 want your users to make strong passwords. This will NOT force every single
46 user to do so, so don't be surprised if it doesn't even work.
48 Suggestion on a feature:
49 Allow services to make a randomly generated password. Perhaps /msg nickserv
50 register RANDOM email would do it rather than set it to random. Since the
51 services does reply to you with the password you entered, the user has a
52 chance to write down the password.
54 Beau (Strider) Steward
55 chatcircuit administrator and
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59 ----- Original Message -----
60 From:
"Andy Smith
" <<A HREF=
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61 To:
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62 Sent: Monday, March
19,
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63 Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Re: [Andy Smith - IRCServices]
66 ><i> On Sun,
18 Mar
2001 17:
42:
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0200, Partizanu
<<A HREF=
"http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">silvius at expres.ro
</A>> wrote:
68 </I>><i> >Imagine this:
69 </I>><i> >Some user, let`s say Guest007 come to you and say:
70 </I>><i> >- Hello my dear services admin! I have a problem. User BadGuest stole my
72 ><i> >and I want my nick back. Can you do something about this?
74 </I>><i> In this situation, BadGuest was given the password by the user, or else
76 ><i> user did something to allow BadGuest to easily guess it. That is the
80 </I>><i> The other slim possibility is that the IRC network itself has someone
81 </I>><i> sniffing passwords on it. That is a problem that needs to be solved, and
83 ><i> part of services can solve it for you.
85 </I>><i> The vast majority of
"password stealing
" incidents are down to users
87 ><i> their passwords.
90 </I>><i> Andy Smith
<<A HREF=
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