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34 <PRE>From: &quot;Andrew Church&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">achurch at achurch.org</A>&gt;
35 To: &quot;Countersync of AGNPH (and #agnph)&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>&gt;
36 Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 13:54
37 Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Ok, I think that I have checked all other areas
38 first. Why the !@#$ does chanserv keep re-opping and re-voic
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40
41 &gt;<i> &gt;To clarify, I do not mean when a user joins a channel after they identify
42 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;with nickserv. I mean after a user has been in channel, if they go
43 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;auto-idle away or have been there without action long enough to declare
44 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;idle. At that point anyone with operator status in the channel (possibly
45 </I>a
46 &gt;<i> &gt;bot, but usually a human) is supposed to remove their ops and voice. At
47 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;least as of the last tests I made in a channel I test on, chanserv would
48 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;re-voice and re-op them if they had the sufficent level to gain either of
49 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;those upon entry. This is of course a feature that need at least an
50 </I>on/off
51 &gt;<i> &gt;switch if not removal. It is not desired in all the cases I can think of
52 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;off hand.
53 </I>&gt;<i>
54 </I>&gt;<i> Meaning your one channel? When I first implemented this feature most
55 </I>&gt;<i> people appreciated it. Is there a general opinion on whether this
56 </I>behavior
57 &gt;<i> should change? Incidentally, I have never heard of this &quot;supposed to
58 </I>remove
59 &gt;<i> their ops and voice&quot; business; don't assume your channel policies apply to
60 </I>&gt;<i> everyone else.
61 </I>
62 Correct, in all of the channels I visit, which isn't many. Also I didn't
63 assume they applied to everyone else, just that at some time everyone else
64 was likely to want to do that same task for one reason or another.
65 &gt;<i>
66 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Secure-ops is to disallow users not in the access list from
67 </I>getting
68 &gt;<i> &gt;&gt; ops, not to limit who can set ops on whom. The HELP text describes
69 </I>this
70 &gt;<i> &gt;&gt; clearly.
71 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
72 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;Again, to clarify. If secure-ops is set, chanserv will not allow anyone
73 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;with a level lower then (and equal to? I forget this point, and can't
74 </I>seem
75 &gt;<i> &gt;to get an answer with &quot;/msg chanserv help levels set autodeop&quot;) auto-deop
76 </I>to
77 &gt;<i> &gt;keep ops.
78 </I>&gt;<i>
79 </I>&lt;Snip chanserv return for /msg chanserv help set secureops&gt;
80 &gt;<i> Incidentally, the command you are looking for is &quot;help levels desc&quot;.
81 </I>
82 Thanks, this helps, but I still can't see any indication as to the &gt;, &lt;, &lt;=,
83 or &gt;= function it uses to filter who the levels apply to.
84 &gt;<i>
85 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;Thus there should not be a need for chanserv to re-op someone that is
86 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;deopped because anyone with enough access to keep ops is trusted to this
87 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;degree by the founder.
88 </I>&gt;<i> Does anyone else have an opinion on this?
89 </I>&gt;<i> --Andrew Church
90 </I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">achurch at achurch.org</A> | New address - please note.
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