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34 <PRE>Services would mark structures (nicknames, channels etc) as
"changed
". Only
35 those structures would be saved at each database save. Each save would take
36 place to a new file. A cron would then run to combine those files into a
37 single file. Obviously they'd be combined in the order they were saved to
40 The benefits would be that only
"changed
" structures would need to be saved.
41 This would save time on networks with huge databases.
43 Considering the overhead of XML's metadata, as Andy pointed out, something
44 like this would be essential if the databases were saved using XML.
48 ><i> -----Original Message-----
49 </I>><i> From:
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</A>
50 </I>><i> [mailto:
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</A>]On Behalf Of Chris Knipe
51 </I>><i> Sent:
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53 </I>><i> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] cheers. ideas.
56 </I>><i> Hi again :)
58 </I>><i> Andew, Text/XML... Once again I ask. What reference will
59 </I>><i> services have to
60 </I>><i> KNOW immediately WHERE it is supposed to update its information? If you
61 </I>><i> have
5000 nicks registered, are you expecting services to hunt
62 </I>><i> through
5000
63 </I>><i> text files to locate the right one, and then still expect services to be
66 </I>><i> Just my thought.
70 </I>><i> Chris Knipe
71 </I>><i> Cell: (
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73 </I>><i> ----- Original Message -----
74 </I>><i> From: Andrew Kempe
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75 </I>><i> To:
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76 </I>><i> Sent: Wednesday, October
11,
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77 </I>><i> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] cheers. ideas.
80 </I>><i> > This is the ideal situation...
82 </I>><i> > However, those who have worked with developing software that can handle
83 </I>><i> > "modules
" will probably know that it is not something one does in one
85 </I>><i> > afternoon.
87 </I>><i> > On this note, I've considered moving the databases to a text
88 </I>><i> based format
89 </I>><i> > using XML. Because the databases are pretty much
"read-only
"
90 </I>><i> (all changes
91 </I>><i> > HAVE to be made via Services itself) this would allow for a pretty wide
92 </I>><i> > range of applications to use them.
94 </I>><i> > I'm busy writing a test program that I'm going to want as many people to
95 </I>><i> > test as possible to ensure that the XML lib that I'm using is going to
97 </I>><i> > everywhere. This is because the current database format will be replaced
99 </I>><i> > the new one.
101 </I>><i> > Are there any thoughts or concerns on using XML/text to store the
102 </I>><i> > information?
104 </I>><i> > Andrew
106 </I>><i> > ----- Original Message -----
107 </I>><i> > From:
"Samuel Graenacher
" <<A HREF=
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108 </I>><i> > To:
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109 </I>><i> > Sent: Wednesday, October
11,
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110 </I>><i> > Subject: Re: [IRCServices] cheers. ideas.
113 </I>><i> > >
114 </I>><i> > > Hmm, I dunno how fast/effective the current db format is but it sounds
115 </I>><i> > like
116 </I>><i> > > a good idea. Would allow easier data/user management with other
117 </I>><i> software.
118 </I>><i> > > Maybe make the database functions modular and let the user
119 </I>><i> decide which
121 </I>><i> > > format to use?
122 </I>><i> > >
123 </I>><i> > > Andrew Kempe writes:
124 </I>><i> > >
125 </I>><i> > > > this bounced...
126 </I>><i> > > >
127 </I>><i> > > > > From:
"Bruno Lacerda
" <<A HREF=
"http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">sniffer at sniffer.net
</A>>
128 </I>><i> > > > > To:
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129 </I>><i> > > > > Subject: cheers. ideas.
130 </I>><i> > > > > Date: Tue,
10 Oct
2000 19:
37:
44 -
0300
131 </I>><i> > > > >
132 </I>><i> > > > > im a ansi c/database programmer, im currently working
133 </I>><i> with webdevel
135 </I>><i> > > > just
136 </I>><i> > > > > for money.
137 </I>><i> > > > >
138 </I>><i> > > > > well, im completely open for help with new ways of
139 </I>><i> storing,retrieving
140 </I>><i> > > > > services information, such as databases..
141 </I>><i> > > > >
142 </I>><i> > > > > i dont know about the ircservices devel state, but, i
143 </I>><i> suggest using
144 </I>><i> > real
145 </I>><i> > > > sql
146 </I>><i> > > > > based databases.. mysql, postgres.. dunno.
147 </I>><i> > > > >
148 </I>><i> > > > > uh, a question, am i subscribed to the right mailing list?
149 </I>><i> > > > >
150 </I>><i> > > > > cheers, bruno lacerda.
151 </I>><i> > > > > <A HREF=
"<A HREF=
"http://sniffer.net"">http://sniffer.net
"</A>><A HREF=
"http://sniffer.net</A">http://sniffer.net
</A
</A>>
152 </I>><i> > > > > <A HREF=
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153 </I>><i> > > > >
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