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15 <B>Chris Knipe</B>
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17 TITLE="[IRCServices] cheers. ideas.">cgknipe at mweb.co.za
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19 <I>Sat Oct 14 13:19:49 PDT 2000</I>
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34 <PRE>If your SQL Server crashed, you dont really know very much of it (no
35 offence).
36
37 MySQL is used by companies such as YaHoo with CREATE success.
38
39 Just because YOU are having problems with SQL, it does NOT mean everyone
40 else is having them either. As I stated in some previous post, I am getting
41 EXCELLT results from a database holding well over 5000 records. I am pretty
42 sure that the exact same is going to happen if and when I port the services
43 database to SQL for testing purposes.
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45 SQL is BRILLIANT. Once again though, the application is only as clever as
46 the person whom designed it. In your case, I feel safe to say that this is
47 exactly the case. If the results returned slow, then its another question.
48 But the fact that your server allready crashes like every two or three
49 days... That points in my books to not knowing what you are doing...
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52 Regards,
53 Chris Knipe
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57 ----- Original Message -----
58 From: Chris Wiest &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">kwahraw at relic.net</A>&gt;
59 To: &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ender.shadowfire.org</A>&gt;
60 Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 1:33 PM
61 Subject: Re: [IRCServices] cheers. ideas.
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64 &gt;<i> i debated, and even played with storing/retreiving to mysql. The problem
65 </I>&gt;<i> that I've found is that you then deal with ensuring the sql program is up
66 </I>&gt;<i> and running, and sql tends to crash (we actually have a sql based program
67 </I>&gt;<i> currently that has an average uptime of 2 to 3 days). I don't know if
68 </I>&gt;<i> anyone else has experienced this, however it seems to kinda be
69 </I>&gt;<i> standard. We deal with 1600 to 2000 users simultaneous, they tend to get
70 </I>&gt;<i> pissy when our services go boom, and rightly so. I'm not saying not to
71 </I>&gt;<i> move to sql (though I'd say xml seems a better option), but I am saying
72 </I>&gt;<i> that given sql's uptime, it can be an issue.
73 </I>&gt;<i>
74 </I>&gt;<i> --CDW
75 </I>&gt;<i>
76 </I>&gt;<i> On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Samuel Graenacher wrote:
77 </I>&gt;<i>
78 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
79 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hmm, I dunno how fast/effective the current db format is but it sounds
80 </I>like
81 &gt;<i> &gt; a good idea. Would allow easier data/user management with other
82 </I>software.
83 &gt;<i> &gt; Maybe make the database functions modular and let the user decide which
84 </I>db
85 &gt;<i> &gt; format to use?
86 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
87 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; Andrew Kempe writes:
88 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
89 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; this bounced...
90 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
91 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; From: &quot;Bruno Lacerda&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">sniffer at sniffer.net</A>&gt;
92 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; To: &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at Snow.shadowfire.org</A>&gt;
93 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: cheers. ideas.
94 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:37:44 -0300
95 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
96 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; im a ansi c/database programmer, im currently working with webdevel
97 </I>but
98 &gt;<i> &gt; &gt; just
99 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; for money.
100 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
101 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; well, im completely open for help with new ways of
102 </I>storing,retrieving
103 &gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; services information, such as databases..
104 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
105 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; i dont know about the ircservices devel state, but, i suggest using
106 </I>real
107 &gt;<i> &gt; &gt; sql
108 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; based databases.. mysql, postgres.. dunno.
109 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
110 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; uh, a question, am i subscribed to the right mailing list?
111 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
112 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; cheers, bruno lacerda.
113 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://sniffer.net">http://sniffer.net</A>
114 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">sniffer at sniffer.net</A>
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