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  15     <B>Scott Seufert</B>
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  17        TITLE="[IRCServices] Desperate Problems">anarki at flamebait.org
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  19     <I>Tue Oct 10 20:47:14 PDT 2000</I>
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  34 <PRE>I was suggesting a lesser of two evils. Services is in no way required for
  35 network maintenance, so asking me to decide which is more helpful, is
  36 totally irrelevant.
  37
  38 A good set of opers and a RFC compliant IRCd will have all the tools needed
  39 for the task. Please remember that IRC was conceived without services and
  40 the oldest net still runs without them.
  41
  42 I'm not one to get into a heated debate over my opinion.
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  44 If you read RFC 1459, services isn't even mentioned. Where as the duties of
  45 an IRCop are, in such duties are network/server maintenance. So by
  46 standard, choosing to keep a network tool like StatServ would be more
  47 helpful to the oper than worrying about whether or not a few nicks get
  48 changed/killed.
  49
  50 Whatever you decide is of course your choice alone, I'm just here to help
  51 by offering my years of experience.
  52
  53 I do trust that these problems will be handled in the near future. In the
  54 short time I have known Andrew, he has always been good about fixing
  55 problems in a timely manner.
  56
  57 &lt;/rant&gt;
  58
  59
  60 Scott Seufert
  61 aka katsklaw
  62 Server Admin
  63 Excalibre.ShadowFire.Org
  64
  65
  66 &lt;snip&gt;
  67
  68 &gt;<i> &gt; This creates an inconvenience for the user, but keeps the network
  69 </I>&gt;<i> stable(The
  70 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; IRCop's prime duty, IAW RFC1459).
  71 </I>&gt;<i>
  72 </I>&gt;<i>Umm not having services and having services... u decide which is more
  73 </I>&gt;<i>helpful in keeping the network up and running
  74 </I>&gt;<i>properly. Keep in mind the 22% cpu usage, having to restart services on
  75 </I>&gt;<i>the server, and that guesting will only cause
  76 </I>&gt;<i>confusion, and nothing else. IMHO both should be removed on a temporary
  77 </I>&gt;<i>basis until the issues are resolved.
  78 </I>&gt;<i>
  79 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; Scott Seufert
  80 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; aka katsklaw
  81 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; Server Admin
  82 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; Excalibre.ShadowFire.Org
  83 </I>&gt;<i>
  84 </I>&gt;<i>Imran Ali Rashid
  85 </I>&gt;<i>Server Admin of a small tiny, two servers linked across a modem irc
  86 </I>&gt;<i>network. Converting the modem link to lan in about a
  87 </I>&gt;<i>week, so splits issue should be non-existant.
  88 </I>&gt;<i>irc.giki.edu.pk
  89 </I>&gt;<i>
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