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  34 <PRE>&lt;snip&gt;
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  36 &gt;<i> Here's my  $0.02, in light of the affects that will occur, the network
  37 </I>&gt;<i> functionality should always take priority to user functionality. That said
  38 </I>&gt;<i> it would be, IMHO, to disable the guest feature and keep the stats. Without
  39 </I>&gt;<i> the guest feature users will be /kill'd instead, they can always reconnect.
  40 </I>&gt;<i> One of two things are happening if a nick is forced a change to guestxxxxx
  41 </I>&gt;<i> to start with. One is that services is lagged to the point of not seeing a
  42 </I>&gt;<i> users attempt of identify'ing or two the user isn't paying attention.
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  44 The thing is that when people are guested, there is hardly any load on the system, and since people get the same nicks,
  45 it is equalent to having killed them. So either ways, this isn't that much of a problem, except for the confusion
  46 caused. There is no lag either. So the point is moot.
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  48 Keeping stats is probably one of the worst things that could be done in light of the above situation. I mean imagine
  49 what happens after 2 splits and rejoins. Services squits from the network and starts eating up 22% cpu on a p3-450. Uhh
  50 i don't think i like that. I have to kill it and start services again, because the current process will not reconnect,
  51 and is therefore useless, other than the 22% cpu usage, which also might cause problems for other processes on the
  52 machine.  This imho will not keep the network or the services machine stable, since splits are a fact of life, and do
  53 happen. On the other hand, a little extra info can be lost for a LOT more stability on the part of services.
  54
  55 &gt;<i> This creates an inconvenience for the user, but keeps the network stable(The
  56 </I>&gt;<i> IRCop's prime duty, IAW RFC1459).
  57 </I>
  58 Umm not having services and having services... u decide which is more helpful in keeping the network up and running
  59 properly. Keep in mind the 22% cpu usage, having to restart services on the server, and that guesting will only cause
  60 confusion, and nothing else. IMHO both should be removed on a temporary basis until the issues are resolved.
  61
  62 &gt;<i> Scott Seufert
  63 </I>&gt;<i> aka katsklaw
  64 </I>&gt;<i> Server Admin
  65 </I>&gt;<i> Excalibre.ShadowFire.Org
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  67 Imran Ali Rashid
  68 Server Admin of a small tiny, two servers linked across a modem irc network. Converting the modem link to lan in about a
  69 week, so splits issue should be non-existant.
  70 irc.giki.edu.pk
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