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34 <PRE>This is a general reply to all the posts...
36 I think an SQL server would be a more robust storage method than the flat
37 files we use at present. I don't think we should replace them all together.
38 I would like an interface implemented in such a way that services writes
39 (saves) data and reads (loads) data in a fixed manner that is independant of
40 the method used to actually store it. This would allow people to implement a
41 variety of different storage mechanisms that are invisible to services. In
42 the end, services would be ignorant as to how or where it's data comes from
43 or goes to. This I hope will become a reality when modules are implemented.
45 Maybe someone wants to implement, dare I say it, an XML interface? :)
49 ><i> -----Original Message-----
50 </I>><i> From:
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51 </I>><i> [mailto:
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55 </I>><i> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] New services implementations
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58 </I>><i> >The idea of using SQL sounds good at first. But these services
59 </I>><i> are generally
60 </I>><i> >used by small or medium IRC networks all over the world. Some of
62 </I>><i> >low configurations and smaller bandwidths. These implementation
63 </I>><i> would need
64 </I>><i> >an additional SQL server as Andy pointed out. Also having
65 </I>><i> statistics on web
66 </I>><i> >would result to another performance decrease. Security is another point.
68 </I>><i> Might I suggest a compromise, which would allow the increased Web
69 </I>><i> functionality while retaining the simplicity of the existing system:
71 </I>><i> When a change is made to the Services database, export that change to an
72 </I>><i> OPTIONAL SQL database, which may or may not be on a different
73 </I>><i> server. Then
74 </I>><i> the Web-functionality can be stuck on top of that SQL database as
76 </I>><i> If changes need to be made in the reverse direction too, then a mechanism
77 </I>><i> for re-importing changes should be made available.
79 </I>><i> I think they key issue here is to avoid changing the basic implementation
80 </I>><i> where possible, but provide hooks so that bigger functionality
81 </I>><i> can be added
82 </I>><i> as and when it is desired, and can be set up by the server owners. I
83 </I>><i> really like the way Services can be set up with minimal effort - I gather
84 </I>><i> setting up SQL is rather less trivial. By making SQL optional,
85 </I>><i> we can grab
86 </I>><i> that extra functionality for those that want it (we probably don't, on our
87 </I>><i> small server) but keep it simple for those that don't. As for security,
88 </I>><i> that would need to be addressed by whoever decided to activate the SQL
89 </I>><i> setup - basic functionality should not be affected.
91 </I>><i> --------------------------------------------------------------
92 </I>><i> from: Jonathan
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