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15 <B>Andrew Kempe</B>
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19 <I>Fri Oct 8 06:27:12 PDT 1999</I>
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34 <PRE>I agree. I was originally going to go for the cron option, but I thought
35 that the wait would be too long. I was thinking about the following two
36 options:
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38 1. Get services to run a script, that goes into the background, that will
39 send the relevant email. The script is run for every email.
40 2. Get services to communicate with another proccess, which is always
41 running, informing it of the new email to be sent. This process will then
42 take care of the nescessary tasks. This option would require that Services
43 ensures that the process is always running and operational.
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47 Andrew
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51 On Fri, 8 Oct 1999, Scott Seufert wrote:
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53 &gt;<i>
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56 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;From: &quot;Pinto, Joao Luis (J.)&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">jpinto9 at visteon.com</A>&gt;
57 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;To: &quot;'<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ender.shadowfire.org</A>'&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ender.shadowfire.org</A>&gt;
58 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;Subject: RE: [IRCServices] what do they think ?
59 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;Date: Fri, Oct 8, 1999, 3:20 AM
60 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
61 </I>&gt;<i>
62 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; I think putting the mailing job on services is not a very good idea, my idea
63 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; is services should dump the data for the mails on a temp file, and then a
64 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; script that would be on cron, would use thid temp file, send the mails and
65 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; clean the file :), a 10mins interval cron with be a good service.
66 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
67 </I>&gt;<i>
68 </I>&gt;<i> Good in theory, however the problem I see is that users will have to wait
69 </I>&gt;<i> that 10 minutes to finish registering their nick and/or any channels that
70 </I>&gt;<i> are wanted registered as well. I was using IRCu and CService style bot and I
71 </I>&gt;<i> found that our biggest complaint was that users didn't like that it involved
72 </I>&gt;<i> such a long process, personally I see nothing wrong with requiring a few
73 </I>&gt;<i> supporters, however I still got complaints. Users wanted instant results, so
74 </I>&gt;<i> I removed the UnderNet style bots and daemon that I like so well and
75 </I>&gt;<i> switched to DALnet's daemon and ircservices. The complaints have stopped. In
76 </I>&gt;<i> short adding a 10 minute cron job may not be the answer.
77 </I>&gt;<i>
78 </I>&gt;<i> Another thing is that when I was an oper on DALnet, services would back
79 </I>&gt;<i> themselves up. When this is in process services was very hard to work with,
80 </I>&gt;<i> because the box services is on was running at a high CPU. IF this mail cron
81 </I>&gt;<i> job gets too big in that 10 minute span, you may see the same results.
82 </I>&gt;<i>
83 </I>&gt;<i> &lt;snip&gt;
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86 </I>&gt;<i> Just my $0.02
87 </I>&gt;<i>
88 </I>&gt;<i> Scott Seufert
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