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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Thu Sep  2 07:30:34 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] test, please ignore
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.3.96.990902162942.11294G-100000@shell.icon.co.za

Sorry for the weird emails you may have got today... i've been testing the
archiving of the list, and it seems some mails slipped through to the main
list.

Andrew


From andrewk at icon.co.za  Sun Sep  5 06:50:21 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Language Translations
Message-ID: 000001bef7a5$9920ca00$0100a8c0@shadow

Is anyone able to translate the new/updated language strings into Spanish
and/or Turkish? Do you know anyone who would be able to?

I want to release 4.3 this week, and it would be nice to have as many of the
language files up to date as possible.

Your help is greatly appreciated!

Thanks, Andrew

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From jozeph at globalmedia.com.br  Sun Sep  5 08:21:28 1999
From: jozeph at globalmedia.com.br (Jozenobio de Melo Brasil)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Language Translations
In-Reply-To: <000001bef7a5$9920ca00$0100a8c0@shadow>
References: 000001bef7a5$9920ca00$0100a8c0@shadow
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.00.9909051221120.27760&#45;100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br

I Can update the Portuguese Language...

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    \__U_/     | " Onde a maioria vive com a bondade,
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The box said "Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0, or better", so I installed
Linux.

On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, Andrew Kempe wrote:

> Is anyone able to translate the new/updated language strings into Spanish
> and/or Turkish? Do you know anyone who would be able to?
> 
> I want to release 4.3 this week, and it would be nice to have as many of the
> language files up to date as possible.
> 
> Your help is greatly appreciated!
> 
> Thanks, Andrew
> 
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From serkano at domi.com.tr  Sun Sep  5 13:11:00 1999
From: serkano at domi.com.tr (Serkan Ozyon)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Clone.
Message-ID: 000f01bef7da$c970d9e0$153d4ac3@serkan

 
Hello..  
  
-DomiNet.Ank.TrNet.Org- *** Global -- from Hamdullah!Services@Services.TrNet.Org: WARNING - possible clones detected from slip139-92-26-15.ist.tr.ibm.net
-
-DomiNet.Ank.TrNet.Org- *** Global -- from Services.TrNet.Org: PANIC! buffer = NICK Ghost 2 936566119 pamela slip139-92-26-15.ist.tr.ibm.net DomiNet.Ank.TrNet.Org 0 :FallGuy MerMaids
-
-DomiNet.Ank.TrNet.Org- *** Global -- from IRCHUB.Ist.TrNet.Org: Received SQUIT Services.TrNet.Org from Services.TrNet.Org[0.0.0.0] (Services terminating: Segmentation fault) 
  
services version : services-4.3pre4 ..  
  
 
From reka at reka.org  Sun Sep  5 16:47:37 1999
From: reka at reka.org (Martin Holm)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Language Translations
In-Reply-To: <000001bef7a5$9920ca00$0100a8c0@shadow>
References: 000001bef7a5$9920ca00$0100a8c0@shadow
Message-ID: 4.1.19990906014452.01c00a10@reka.org


I was going to translate IRC Services into Norwegian, but right now it
seems like school, homework, work, etc. take most of my time, so I'm not
able to help out much... Well, maybe later.


At 15:50 05.09.99 +0200, Andrew Kempe wrote:
>Is anyone able to translate the new/updated language strings into Spanish
>and/or Turkish? Do you know anyone who would be able to?
>
>I want to release 4.3 this week, and it would be nice to have as many of the
>language files up to date as possible.


===============================================================================
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http://www.reka.org/                                            (+47) 9285 4558
SMS email: sms@reka.org                                             ICQ: 715443
WHOIS MH17347                                                         IRC: Reka
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From jpinto9 at visteon.com  Mon Sep  6 00:08:24 1999
From: jpinto9 at visteon.com (Pinto, Joao Luis (J.))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Language Translations
Message-ID: 199909060708.DAA19636@mailfw3.ford.com

For who doesn't do. There is a big idiomatic differen between Portuguese
(Portugal) and Portuguese ( Brasil),
so I think there shoul be 2 Portuguese :), I have the language file for
2.2.4 translated to Portuguese (Portugal), however the control codes
(BOLD/UNERLINE) had been ripped, If you tell me were I cand find the new
strings I will can translate it.

João Luís Marques Pinto
PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
http://www.PTlink.net  



-----Original Message-----
From: Jozenobio de Melo Brasil [<A  HREF="mailto:jozeph@globalmedia.com.br">mailto:jozeph@globalmedia.com.br</A>]
Sent: domingo, 5 de setembro de 1999 16:21
To: Andrew Kempe
Cc: IRCServices
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Language Translations


I Can update the Portuguese Language...

--
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 \|/ --- \|/   | Jozenóbio de Melo Brasil.
  @~/ Oo \~@   | jozeph@globalmedia.com.br
 /_( \__/ )_\  | <A  HREF="http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph">http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph</A>
    \__U_/     | " Onde a maioria vive com a bondade,
               |  a maldade da minoria tende sempre a desaparecer! "
--------------------------------------------------------------------
The box said "Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0, or better", so I installed
Linux.

On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, Andrew Kempe wrote:

> Is anyone able to translate the new/updated language strings into Spanish
> and/or Turkish? Do you know anyone who would be able to?
> 
> I want to release 4.3 this week, and it would be nice to have as many of
the
> language files up to date as possible.
> 
> Your help is greatly appreciated!
> 
> Thanks, Andrew
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
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> 

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From bras at ips.com.br  Mon Sep  6 07:12:43 1999
From: bras at ips.com.br (Marcelo Conde Foscarini)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Language Translations
Message-ID: 1.5.4.32.19990906141243.006ddda8@server&#45;jf1.ips.com.br

Yes... he's right... I can translate to portuguese (brazil).

Thank you

---bras


At 03:08 06/09/99 -0400, you wrote:
>For who doesn't do. There is a big idiomatic differen between Portuguese
>(Portugal) and Portuguese ( Brasil),
>so I think there shoul be 2 Portuguese :), I have the language file for
>2.2.4 translated to Portuguese (Portugal), however the control codes
>(BOLD/UNERLINE) had been ripped, If you tell me were I cand find the new
>strings I will can translate it.
>
>João Luís Marques Pinto
>PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
>http://www.PTlink.net  
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jozenobio de Melo Brasil [<A  HREF="mailto:jozeph@globalmedia.com.br">mailto:jozeph@globalmedia.com.br</A>]
>Sent: domingo, 5 de setembro de 1999 16:21
>To: Andrew Kempe
>Cc: IRCServices
>Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Language Translations
>
>
>I Can update the Portuguese Language...
>
>--
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> \|/ --- \|/   | Jozenóbio de Melo Brasil.
>  @~/ Oo \~@   | jozeph@globalmedia.com.br
> /_( \__/ )_\  | <A  HREF="http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph">http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph</A>
>    \__U_/     | " Onde a maioria vive com a bondade,
>               |  a maldade da minoria tende sempre a desaparecer! "
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>The box said "Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0, or better", so I installed
>Linux.
>
>On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, Andrew Kempe wrote:
>
>> Is anyone able to translate the new/updated language strings into Spanish
>> and/or Turkish? Do you know anyone who would be able to?
>> 
>> I want to release 4.3 this week, and it would be nice to have as many of
>the
>> language files up to date as possible.
>> 
>> Your help is greatly appreciated!
>> 
>> Thanks, Andrew
>> 
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>> with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes.
>> 
>
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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Mon Sep  6 13:04:42 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] french translation
Message-ID: 000f01bef8a3$0f069580$0100a8c0@shadow

If anyone can complete the french translation, I'd appreciate it. The person
who usually does it is unable to work on it at the moment. If you can do it,
just send me the completed language file.

Thanks, Andrew

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From tower at oit.pdx.edu  Mon Sep  6 20:43:09 1999
From: tower at oit.pdx.edu (Tyson La Tourrette)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ping timeouts..
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.4.10.9909062030580.19733&#45;100000@medusa.oit.pdx.edu

I keep getting ping timeouts for services. I am running df467 for ircd and 4.3pre0 for services. Here is a snippet from my services.log

[Sep 05 12:44:23 1999] unknown message from server (P)
[Sep 05 12:44:23 1999] unknown message from server (NG :zealot.cat.pdx.edu)
[Sep 05 12:46:22 1999] unknown message from server (ERROR :Closing Link: service
s.cat.pdx.edu[0.0.0.0] (Ping timeout))
[Sep 05 12:46:22 1999] Read error from server: No such file or directory

Here is my Y C and N lines from ircd.conf

Y:99:0:60:1:1000000
C:131.252.208.148:xxxxxxxx:services.cat.pdx.edu::99
N:131.252.208.148:xxxxxxxx:services.cat.pdx.edu::99

Here is the (I think) revelent lines from services.conf

RemoteServer    zealot.cat.pdx.edu 7325 "xxxxxxxx"
ServerName      "services.cat.pdx.edu"

Both ircd and services are running on the same box. I originally had them communicating through localhost but switched to the IP address saince I had these ping timeouts.

Any help?

Tyson

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From achurch at dragonfire.net  Tue Sep  7 21:27:33 1999
From: achurch at dragonfire.net (Andy Church)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ping timeouts..
Message-ID: 37d50647.00226@dragonfire.net

>I keep getting ping timeouts for services. I am running df467 for ircd and 4.3pre0 for services. Here is a snippet from my services.log
>
>[Sep 05 12:44:23 1999] unknown message from server (P)
>[Sep 05 12:44:23 1999] unknown message from server (NG :zealot.cat.pdx.edu)
>[Sep 05 12:46:22 1999] unknown message from server (ERROR :Closing Link: service
>s.cat.pdx.edu[0.0.0.0] (Ping timeout))
>[Sep 05 12:46:22 1999] Read error from server: No such file or directory
[...]
>Y:99:0:60:1:1000000

     This is an ancient problem with Services, in which if there's
absolutely no activity on your network for an extended period of time,
Services may corrupt the next line it receives from the server.  You could
try either decreasing the ping frequency in the Y: line in ircd.conf (60
in your configuration) or increasing ReadTimeout in example.conf so that
ReadTimeout is greater than the IRC server's ping frequency.  What Services
should really do is send its own pings to its uplink server, but I didn't
quite get around to finishing that.

>Both ircd and services are running on the same box. I originally had them communicating through localhost but switched to the IP address saince I had these ping timeouts.

     Using localhost is a better idea (though I'm not sure it makes too
much difference performance-wise).  In any case, it's not the cause of
the ping timeout problem.

  --Andy Church
    achurch@dragonfire.net
    http://achurch.dragonfire.net/
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From scotts at flamebait.org  Wed Sep  8 01:04:41 1999
From: scotts at flamebait.org (Scott Seufert)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ping timeouts..
References: <37d50647.00226@dragonfire.net>
Message-ID: 37D61899.4693@flamebait.org

Andy Church wrote:

<snip>

> >Both ircd and services are running on the same box. I originally had them communicating through localhost but switched to the IP address saince I had these ping timeouts.
> 
>      Using localhost is a better idea (though I'm not sure it makes too
> much difference performance-wise).  In any case, it's not the cause of
> the ping timeout problem.
> 

A better Idea than using the named address(host name) is to always use
the numbered address(IP). This is for a couple reasons. One is so no DNS
lookup is needed, even if you do active lookups as we do at my ISP. it
still cuts out that step, and saves that little bit of time/resources. I
also agree with Andy, by making the ReadTimeout longer than the ping
fequency will think there is more activity than there is. The difference
between using localhost(127.0.0.1) vs real IP is the number of
interfaces involved, again using the numbered address with use the same
interface(eth0) to talk to the server instead of going from
127.0.0.1(loop back) to your ethernet card(eth0), yet another stop saved
on your packets ;) 


>   --Andy Church
>     achurch@dragonfire.net
>     http://achurch.dragonfire.net/
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hope this helps,

Scott Seufert
aka katsklaw@irc
Network Support
QX Networking
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From tower at oit.pdx.edu  Wed Sep  8 07:18:23 1999
From: tower at oit.pdx.edu (Tyson La Tourrette)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ping timeouts..
In-Reply-To: <37d50647.00226@dragonfire.net>
References: 37d50647.00226@dragonfire.net
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.4.10.9909080708460.19733&#45;100000@medusa.oit.pdx.edu

On Tue, 7 Sep 1999, Andy Church wrote:

> >Y:99:0:60:1:1000000
>
>      This is an ancient problem with Services, in which if there's
> absolutely no activity on your network for an extended period of time,
> Services may corrupt the next line it receives from the server.  You could
> try either decreasing the ping frequency in the Y: line in ircd.conf (60
> in your configuration) or increasing ReadTimeout in example.conf so that

The docs I have state that the 3rd field of a Y line is connect
Frequency, not ping freq (which is the 2nd field). Are these docs
wrong? I placed 0 in the ping freq with the hopes that services would
then never get pinged. =)

One more question. The Server Name is not related at all to the
hostname or IP of the box. Correct?

Thanks for your help (You too Scott)

Tyson


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From tower at oit.pdx.edu  Wed Sep  8 07:43:36 1999
From: tower at oit.pdx.edu (Tyson La Tourrette)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ping timeouts..
In-Reply-To: <37d50647.00226@dragonfire.net>
References: 37d50647.00226@dragonfire.net
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.4.10.9909080723150.19733&#45;100000@medusa.oit.pdx.edu

Hmm, OK.

If there is no activity in the server for several hours is it 
plasusible to use services? I am testing to see if ircd + services 
would work as a chat service for unversity classes. But if services 
is going to time out when there is no activity I may need to look 
elsewhere =(

Currently this is my Y line

Y:99:5:5:1:1000000

ReadTimeout is 60s

I am now connecting through 127.0.0.1 but I don't think it matters.

Here is a log from startup to timeout.

[Sep 08 07:31:03 1999] Services 4.3pre4 (compiled for ircd.dal 4.4.15+) starting up
[Sep 08 07:31:03 1999] smalloc: Illegal attempt to allocate 0 bytes
[Sep 08 07:31:03 1999] Databases loaded
[Sep 08 07:31:03 1999] unknown message from server (alot.cat.pdx.edu NOTICE AUTH :*** Looking up your hostname...)
[Sep 08 07:31:03 1999] unknown message from server (ot.cat.pdx.edu NOTICE AUTH :*** Found your hostname)
[Sep 08 07:31:03 1999] unknown message from server (PROTOCTL NOQUIT TOKEN WATCH=128 SAFELIST)
[Sep 08 07:36:13 1999] unknown message from server (P)
[Sep 08 07:36:13 1999] unknown message from server (NG :zealot.cat.pdx.edu)
[Sep 08 07:36:18 1999] unknown message from server (ERROR :Closing Link: 127.0.0.1[0.0.0.0] (Ping timeout))
[Sep 08 07:36:18 1999] Read error from server: No such file or directory

Once again, thanks for your help.

Tyson

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From scotts at flamebait.org  Wed Sep  8 11:47:27 1999
From: scotts at flamebait.org (Scott Seufert)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ping timeouts..
References: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9909080708460.19733-100000@medusa.oit.pdx.edu>
Message-ID: 37D6AF3F.3018@flamebait.org

Tyson La Tourrette wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 7 Sep 1999, Andy Church wrote:
> 
> > >Y:99:0:60:1:1000000
> >
> >      This is an ancient problem with Services, in which if there's
> > absolutely no activity on your network for an extended period of time,
> > Services may corrupt the next line it receives from the server.  You could
> > try either decreasing the ping frequency in the Y: line in ircd.conf (60
> > in your configuration) or increasing ReadTimeout in example.conf so that
> 
> The docs I have state that the 3rd field of a Y line is connect
> Frequency, not ping freq (which is the 2nd field). Are these docs
> wrong? I placed 0 in the ping freq with the hopes that services would
> then never get pinged. =)
> 

The servers NEED to be pinged.

> One more question. The Server Name is not related at all to the
> hostname or IP of the box. Correct?
> 

host and IP are directly related ... DNS is simply assigning a name to a
number. so for example:

My domain is flamebait.org its IP address is 208.247.194.146 of these
two which is easier to remember for more people? ... the name is, most
people associate things with names, like streets, friends, cars, houses
etc ... with out DNS we would still be typing in IP's as addresses. so
instead of http://qx.net you would type <A  HREF="http://208.235.89.10">http://208.235.89.10</A>, which
again qx.net is easier to type and remember ... sence the internet
revolves around numbers(IP addressing) it's easier for your computer to
use the numbered address(IP address) and if you specify in your config
file " services.flamebait.org " instead " 208.247.194.146 " your copy of
services will just have to resolve it to the IP anyway ... so using the
IP would be easier for your services ... especially if something
happened to your DNS server.

I'd like to make a statement in regards to localhost vs IP, after some
thought last night. It might be easier to use the localhost interface to
talk to the server for services hosted on the same maghine for the
reasons of less traffic, sence all inbound and outbout traffic is
eth0(NIC). I would like to also add that I personaly do not use
loopback(localhost) I use eth0 to comunicate with services.



> Thanks for your help (You too Scott)
>

your welcome any time ;)
 
> Tyson
> 
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From scotts at flamebait.org  Wed Sep  8 11:50:04 1999
From: scotts at flamebait.org (Scott Seufert)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ping timeouts..
References: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9909080723150.19733-100000@medusa.oit.pdx.edu>
Message-ID: 37D6AFDC.65F6@flamebait.org

Tyson La Tourrette wrote:
> 
> Hmm, OK.
> 
> If there is no activity in the server for several hours is it
> plasusible to use services? I am testing to see if ircd + services
> would work as a chat service for unversity classes. But if services
> is going to time out when there is no activity I may need to look
> elsewhere =(
> 
> Currently this is my Y line
> 
> Y:99:5:5:1:1000000
> 
> ReadTimeout is 60s
> 
> I am now connecting through 127.0.0.1 but I don't think it matters.
> 
> Here is a log from startup to timeout.
> 
> [Sep 08 07:31:03 1999] Services 4.3pre4 (compiled for ircd.dal 4.4.15+) starting up
> [Sep 08 07:31:03 1999] smalloc: Illegal attempt to allocate 0 bytes
> [Sep 08 07:31:03 1999] Databases loaded
> [Sep 08 07:31:03 1999] unknown message from server (alot.cat.pdx.edu NOTICE AUTH :*** Looking up your hostname...)
> [Sep 08 07:31:03 1999] unknown message from server (ot.cat.pdx.edu NOTICE AUTH :*** Found your hostname)
> [Sep 08 07:31:03 1999] unknown message from server (PROTOCTL NOQUIT TOKEN WATCH=128 SAFELIST)
> [Sep 08 07:36:13 1999] unknown message from server (P)
> [Sep 08 07:36:13 1999] unknown message from server (NG :zealot.cat.pdx.edu)
> [Sep 08 07:36:18 1999] unknown message from server (ERROR :Closing Link: 127.0.0.1[0.0.0.0] (Ping timeout))
> [Sep 08 07:36:18 1999] Read error from server: No such file or directory
> 

try using the IP adress to connect to and not localhost(127.0.0.1)

> Once again, thanks for your help.
> 
> Tyson
> 
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From jpinto9 at visteon.com  Tue Sep  7 08:26:38 1999
From: jpinto9 at visteon.com (Pinto, Joao Luis (J.))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] TIMOR - The dying nation
Message-ID: 199909081815.OAA22777@mailfw2.ford.com

I ask for apologizes using this Mailing List for a subject very different
from what is expected howerver I can not stay shut up while there is someone
dying at this moment because they choosen their freedom, if you enjoy your
freedom and know it's value plesa send the following PETITION for the
addresses list below, so TIMOR people live.
-----------
PETITION

 Widespread death and destruction are happening  in East Timor.
 Unless world leaders exert  maximum pressure on the Indonesian
 Government the  results of last Monday's referendum   will be followed
 by a growing massacre and destruction of thousands of citizens who
 braved everything to vote, expressing  overwhelmingly their wish to
 become
 independent.

 Regrettably, the Indonesian Government is not fullfiling the New York
 agreements and has allowed the violence to spread.

 An   international force is essential to prevent the  total  slaughter
 of the people by the anti-independence militias.

 Therefore, I call upon you to  URGENTLY exert all of the available
 means at your disposal to make the killings stop and prevent the
 deportation and massacre of the people of East Timor.

Some people choose freedom with cost of their life,
others choose their life with cost of their freedom.
(Sign Here)

---------------------------- Petition should be sent to this adresses
 ref@american-embassy.pt
 senator.reid@aph.gov.au
 prime.minister@ministers.govt.nz
 foreign.affairs@ministers.govt.nz
 president@whitehouse.gov
 Habibie@ristek.go.id
 ecu@un.org

João Luís Marques Pinto
PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
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From voyager at clansites.com  Wed Sep  8 00:36:15 1999
From: voyager at clansites.com (ClanSites IRC Network)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Ping Timeouts
Message-ID: LOBBJDPNEGLDPOOEBCJKEEALCAAA.voyager@clansites.com

Our smaller network usually doesn't have problems with Ping Timeouts, most
of the time no one is on really late at night, and when people start coming
back in the day, there are usually no problems then....

Also, Some Suggestions:

A StatServ Service, we currently use GeoStats, it works pretty well.

When You set Services to Ghost a Nick in the services.conf it still says
"Set Kill Protection" in the services help file.


Just a few notes,
Josh Odom
Clansites.com

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From cknipe at beachfront.co.za  Wed Sep  8 13:14:59 1999
From: cknipe at beachfront.co.za (Chris Knipe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ping timeouts..
References: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9909080723150.19733-100000@medusa.oit.pdx.edu>
Message-ID: 37D6C3C3.51D2AF0F@beachfront.co.za


Services does NOT timeout form the network should there be inactivity... I do my development on Dalnet Dreamforge,
and these services, and these services.

The problem is NOT with the IRCD of the Services. I know this seeing for the fact that I run my network on the
192.168.x.x ip ranges, also all on the same machine. Currently my IRCD + Services is idle for about 15 days, without
any splits, or ping timeouts from clients, or servers.

The problem however as mentioned, CAN be the YLine, and I so also suggest that you do NOT attempt to play with, or
change those lines unless you are sure about what you are doing. The "standard " ylines stated in most of the
example.conf's or more precisly, the one that comes with DAL IRCD, is more than adiquite for just about any
connection to your irc server, as far as clients and servers go, and I do suggest that you work from defaults, and
start modifying from there (SHOULD you have further problems or a need to).

Best Regards
Chris Knipe


Tyson La Tourrette wrote:

> Hmm, OK.
>
> If there is no activity in the server for several hours is it
> plasusible to use services? I am testing to see if ircd + services
> would work as a chat service for unversity classes. But if services
> is going to time out when there is no activity I may need to look
> elsewhere =(
>
> Currently this is my Y line
>
> Y:99:5:5:1:1000000
>
> ReadTimeout is 60s
>
> I am now connecting through 127.0.0.1 but I don't think it matters.
>
> Here is a log from startup to timeout.
>
> [Sep 08 07:31:03 1999] Services 4.3pre4 (compiled for ircd.dal 4.4.15+) starting up
> [Sep 08 07:31:03 1999] smalloc: Illegal attempt to allocate 0 bytes
> [Sep 08 07:31:03 1999] Databases loaded
> [Sep 08 07:31:03 1999] unknown message from server (alot.cat.pdx.edu NOTICE AUTH :*** Looking up your hostname...)
> [Sep 08 07:31:03 1999] unknown message from server (ot.cat.pdx.edu NOTICE AUTH :*** Found your hostname)
> [Sep 08 07:31:03 1999] unknown message from server (PROTOCTL NOQUIT TOKEN WATCH=128 SAFELIST)
> [Sep 08 07:36:13 1999] unknown message from server (P)
> [Sep 08 07:36:13 1999] unknown message from server (NG :zealot.cat.pdx.edu)
> [Sep 08 07:36:18 1999] unknown message from server (ERROR :Closing Link: 127.0.0.1[0.0.0.0] (Ping timeout))
> [Sep 08 07:36:18 1999] Read error from server: No such file or directory
>
> Once again, thanks for your help.
>
> Tyson
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From jpinto9 at visteon.com  Wed Sep  8 08:25:29 1999
From: jpinto9 at visteon.com (Pinto, Joao Luis (J.))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ping timeouts..
Message-ID: 199909082206.SAA07382@mailfw1.ford.com

Putting some bots will fix the problem. :)

Regards, João Pinto
> App. Dev. & Integration Group - Information Systems Dept.
> Visteon Portugal (Palmela) - An Enterprise of Ford Motor Company
> 
*       E-Mail: jpinto9@visteon.com
*       Phone: 01-2339323
*       Outside Portugal: 351-1-2339323
*       FordNet: 8-233-9323



-----Original Message-----
From: Tyson La Tourrette [mailto:tower@oit.pdx.edu]
Sent: quarta-feira, 8 de setembro de 1999 15:44
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] ping timeouts..


Hmm, OK.

If there is no activity in the server for several hours is it 
plasusible to use services? I am testing to see if ircd + services 
would work as a chat service for unversity classes. But if services 
is going to time out when there is no activity I may need to look 
elsewhere =(

Currently this is my Y line

Y:99:5:5:1:1000000

ReadTimeout is 60s

I am now connecting through 127.0.0.1 but I don't think it matters.

Here is a log from startup to timeout.

[Sep 08 07:31:03 1999] Services 4.3pre4 (compiled for ircd.dal 4.4.15+)
starting up
[Sep 08 07:31:03 1999] smalloc: Illegal attempt to allocate 0 bytes
[Sep 08 07:31:03 1999] Databases loaded
[Sep 08 07:31:03 1999] unknown message from server (alot.cat.pdx.edu NOTICE
AUTH :*** Looking up your hostname...)
[Sep 08 07:31:03 1999] unknown message from server (ot.cat.pdx.edu NOTICE
AUTH :*** Found your hostname)
[Sep 08 07:31:03 1999] unknown message from server (PROTOCTL NOQUIT TOKEN
WATCH=128 SAFELIST)
[Sep 08 07:36:13 1999] unknown message from server (P)
[Sep 08 07:36:13 1999] unknown message from server (NG :zealot.cat.pdx.edu)
[Sep 08 07:36:18 1999] unknown message from server (ERROR :Closing Link:
127.0.0.1[0.0.0.0] (Ping timeout))
[Sep 08 07:36:18 1999] Read error from server: No such file or directory

Once again, thanks for your help.

Tyson

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From achurch at dragonfire.net  Thu Sep  9 08:25:09 1999
From: achurch at dragonfire.net (Andy Church)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ping timeouts..
Message-ID: 37d6f0d3.00225@dragonfire.net

>Y:99:5:5:1:1000000
>
>ReadTimeout is 60s
>
>I am now connecting through 127.0.0.1 but I don't think it matters.
>
>Here is a log from startup to timeout.
>
>[Sep 08 07:31:03 1999] Services 4.3pre4 (compiled for ircd.dal 4.4.15+) starting up
>[Sep 08 07:31:03 1999] smalloc: Illegal attempt to allocate 0 bytes
>[Sep 08 07:31:03 1999] Databases loaded
>[Sep 08 07:31:03 1999] unknown message from server (alot.cat.pdx.edu NOTICE AUTH :*** Looking up your hostname...)
>[Sep 08 07:31:03 1999] unknown message from server (ot.cat.pdx.edu NOTICE AUTH :*** Found your hostname)
>[Sep 08 07:31:03 1999] unknown message from server (PROTOCTL NOQUIT TOKEN WATCH=128 SAFELIST)
>[Sep 08 07:36:13 1999] unknown message from server (P)
>[Sep 08 07:36:13 1999] unknown message from server (NG :zealot.cat.pdx.edu)

     That's five minutes (and 10 seconds) from startup to ping.  I don't know
what your ircd thinks it's doing with the Y:line, but in any case, just set
ReadTimeout in services.conf to a larger value (like 6 minutes).

  --Andy Church
    achurch@dragonfire.net
    http://achurch.dragonfire.net/
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From ross at metacraft.com  Wed Sep  8 21:31:01 1999
From: ross at metacraft.com (Ross Carlson)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Recommendations
Message-ID: 3.0.1.32.19990909003101.00947b70@mail.metacraft.com

Hello folks,

I have been tasked with maintaining an IRC server for a client, and I would
like some recommendations. I am currently running Elite ircd 2.0 beta 15,
with these services.

I am not sure if these services are meant to work with Elite or not, but
there have been a few problems. Such as, when a successor is set for a
channel, services panics and segfaults. The same thing happens when a nick
is unlinked.

I also see these errors in the log a lot, and I don't see any pattern as to
what is happening at the time the error appears:

442 ChanServ #channel :You're not on that channel

Anyway, I would like to hear everyone's recommendations on a good ircd to
use. I would like one that is known to work well with Andy's services, or a
set of services that I can import the current DB files into. A requirement
of the ircd is that it partially hides hostnames.

Another thing I like about Elite is that if you ban someone that is in the
channel and you don't kick them, they are muted. Perhaps that is standard
for all ircds, I don't know.

Thanks for any suggestions.

________________________________________________

              Ross A. Carlson
          Chief Technology Officer
              CollecTech, Inc.
          ross@collectoronline.com
       http://www.collectoronline.com

             From the Perl docs:
  "If you fork() without ever waiting on your
    children, you will accumulate zombies."
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From uhc0 at rz.uni-karlsruhe.de  Thu Sep  9 00:59:28 1999
From: uhc0 at rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Yusuf Iskenderoglu)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990909003101.00947b70@mail.metacraft.com>
References: 3.0.1.32.19990909003101.00947b70@mail.metacraft.com
Message-ID: Pine.HPX.4.10.9909090932390.7023&#45;100000@rz114s0.rz.uni&#45;karlsruhe.de

On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Ross Carlson wrote:

> Hello folks,
> 
> I have been tasked with maintaining an IRC server for a client, and I would
> like some recommendations. I am currently running Elite ircd 2.0 beta 15,
> with these services.
Hello
I personnally would not advise to use Elite, and definitely not a beta
version of an ircd on a network which will not be used for testing
purposes. I have used Elite quite long seperately on a test server, and
decided not to continue using it, for it seems to me that it is an ircd
designed to make life for Opers better than for normal users.
The feature, mode +x to hide a user's hostname, does NOT work the way it
should work, because 
first : If your IP does not get resolved, Elite hides it as
xxx.xxx.xxx.*** and this *** becomes extremely problematic on a channel
with many users, for a ban will then match to more users than expected.
Like : +b *!*@xxx.xxx.xxx.*
Second : The Ip address is hidden, but not as it should be. The ircd makes
the real IP visible to services. This means, users that do not have the
"hide usermask on" option set, do not have hidden IP's, because in an
NickServ info display or in a Channel access list, these addresses get
visible to anyone.
 > 
> I am not sure if these services are meant to work with Elite or not, but
> there have been a few problems. Such as, when a successor is set for a
> channel, services panics and segfaults. The same thing happens when a nick
> is unlinked.
> 
> I also see these errors in the log a lot, and I don't see any pattern as to
> what is happening at the time the error appears:
> 
> 442 ChanServ #channel :You're not on that channel
> 
It seems to me, that your ircd does not correctly handle the U line.
In an event, where ChanServ should akick a user from a channel, it sends
the raw :ChanServ KICK #channel nickname :reason
And raw 442 might have been sent, because the ircd things, that users that
are not in a channel, should not be able to kick users, or set modes,
orinvite users, etc. You ought to check your U line
U:services.server.name:*:*
Another possibility is the channelmodes +aq of Elite, which make a user
the owner of a channel, and protect it from kicks and bans. The time I was
using Elite, I discovered, that ChanServ even is not able to override
these modes.
> Anyway, I would like to hear everyone's recommendations on a good ircd to
> use. I would like one that is known to work well with Andy's services, or a
> set of services that I can import the current DB files into. A requirement
> of the ircd is that it partially hides hostnames.
The good choice of an ircd, that is known to work well with Andy Church's
services is Dreamforge 4.6.7, as it is the lates version known to me. The
Developers of Dreamforge are now working on another daemon, Bahamut, but
it is not more than a test version, so using it is NOT adviseable, and, it
will not work directly with services, for they have changes in the way the
ircd handles TimeStamps and Modes.
But you also could use ircu, the Undernet ircd. The first thing you have
to be careful of, is that you have to make either ChanServ join every
registered channel, or, change the code so, that the services server sets
the modes, instead of ChanServ.
 > 
> Another thing I like about Elite is that if you ban someone that is in the
> channel and you don't kick them, they are muted. Perhaps that is standard
> for all ircds, I don't know.
Yes, it is standart for all ircd's.
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> 
regards
TimeMr14C, Yusuf Iskenderoglu
ICQ: 20587464

> ________________________________________________
> 
>               Ross A. Carlson
>           Chief Technology Officer
>               CollecTech, Inc.
>           ross@collectoronline.com
>        http://www.collectoronline.com
> 
>              From the Perl docs:
>   "If you fork() without ever waiting on your
>     children, you will accumulate zombies."
> ________________________________________________
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From jpinto9 at visteon.com  Thu Sep  9 00:32:16 1999
From: jpinto9 at visteon.com (Pinto, Joao Luis (J.))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Recommendations
Message-ID: 199909090822.EAA01712@mailfw3.ford.com

I started using Andy Church Services v4.2.2 with Elite ircd 2.0 beta 15,
Elite ircd beta 15 is very buggy so I had to get my hands on it and fixe all
the bugs (I noticed) and inserted some new featues specially dedicated to
work with services, in the other side I had to improve Services to take
advantage of some features of Elite ircd like chanmode +a.
I am running running my ircd/services on a small network with an average of
10 servers and 70 users since May of this year and they have been pretty
stable.
You can download PTlink(the network name) ircd and Services from
http:/www.ptlink.net/Coders/index.html.
Andy Church services are compatible with PTlink ircd, however PTlink
services dont have support for other ircd, because they some features
strongly dependent on the PTlink ircd.
I sent a mail to Andy about my services, I did'nt got a reply so once I am
respecting GPL I think there is no problem.

About the error:
> 442 ChanServ #channel :You're not on that channel
I dont rember where was the problem, but I fixed it :)

> I would like to hear everyone's recommendations on a good ircd to
> use. I would like one that is known to work well with Andy's services, or
a
> set of services that I can import the current DB files into. A requirement
> of the ircd is that it partially hides hostnames.
R: PTlink ircd and PTlink services do :)

Another thing I like about Elite is that if you ban someone that is in the
channel and you don't kick them, they are muted. Perhaps that is standard
for all ircds, I don't know.
R: Yup

João Luís Marques Pinto
PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
http://www.PTlink.net  

P.S: This ML is a bit lagged, my last mail took about 24 hours to reach.


-----Original Message-----
From: Ross Carlson [<A  HREF="mailto:ross@metacraft.com">mailto:ross@metacraft.com</A>]
Sent: quinta-feira, 9 de setembro de 1999 5:31
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: [IRCServices] Recommendations


Hello folks,

I have been tasked with maintaining an IRC server for a client, and I would
like some recommendations. I am currently running Elite ircd 2.0 beta 15,
with these services.

I am not sure if these services are meant to work with Elite or not, but
there have been a few problems. Such as, when a successor is set for a
channel, services panics and segfaults. The same thing happens when a nick
is unlinked.

I also see these errors in the log a lot, and I don't see any pattern as to
what is happening at the time the error appears:

442 ChanServ #channel :You're not on that channel

I would like to hear everyone's recommendations on a good ircd to
use. I would like one that is known to work well with Andy's services, or a
set of services that I can import the current DB files into. A requirement
of the ircd is that it partially hides hostnames.


Another thing I like about Elite is that if you ban someone that is in the
channel and you don't kick them, they are muted. Perhaps that is standard
for all ircds, I don't know.

Thanks for any suggestions.

________________________________________________

              Ross A. Carlson
          Chief Technology Officer
              CollecTech, Inc.
          ross@collectoronline.com
       <A  HREF="http://www.collectoronline.com">http://www.collectoronline.com</A>

             From the Perl docs:
  "If you fork() without ever waiting on your
    children, you will accumulate zombies."
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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Thu Sep  9 02:17:11 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <199909090822.EAA01712@mailfw3.ford.com>
References: 199909090822.EAA01712@mailfw3.ford.com
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.3.96.990909111205.22777E&#45;100000@shell.icon.co.za


> P.S: This ML is a bit lagged, my last mail took about 24 hours to reach.

Is anyone else having problems with the list lagging? Mail is sitting in
the mailq for days at times - usually because the mail server could not be
contacted for that address or the server's name could not be resolved.
Most of the offending addresses seem to be for servers not located in the
US.

I have many other lists running on the same server, and to my knowledge
there are no problems with those. However, I'd like to fix these problems. 

Andrew

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From jestercm at chatfamily.com  Thu Sep  9 08:13:45 1999
From: jestercm at chatfamily.com (David Narayan)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <199909090822.EAA01712@mailfw3.ford.com>
References: 199909090822.EAA01712@mailfw3.ford.com
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.3.96.990909110406.3246A&#45;100000@ns

On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Pinto, Joao Luis (J.) wrote:

> I started using Andy Church Services v4.2.2 with Elite ircd 2.0 beta 15,
> Elite ircd beta 15 is very buggy so I had to get my hands on it and fixe all
> the bugs (I noticed) and inserted some new featues specially dedicated to
> work with services, in the other side I had to improve Services to take
> advantage of some features of Elite ircd like chanmode +a.

The biggest bug you have to watch out for in Elite is the +L channel link
mode.  Using it incorrectly, namely setting two channels to link to each
other, leads to a core dump of the ircd. 
i.e. /mode #foo +L #bar
     /mode #bar +L #foo

The first user who tries to join either channel will get bounced between
channels until the ircd core dumps.

Elite 2.0 is out now, non-beta, but it is no longer free and the +L bug
has not been fixed.

<snip>

Any Dreamforge ircd works well with Services.  Bahamut may have some
compatibility issues since it is part Dreamforge and part hybrid.

-----
David Narayan
Server Administrator
http://www.chatfamily.com

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From tower at oit.pdx.edu  Thu Sep  9 08:05:23 1999
From: tower at oit.pdx.edu (Tyson La Tourrette)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ping timeouts..
In-Reply-To: <37D6AF3F.3018@flamebait.org>
References: 37D6AF3F.3018@flamebait.org
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.4.10.9909090759020.19733&#45;100000@medusa.oit.pdx.edu

On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, Scott Seufert wrote:

> Tyson La Tourrette wrote:
> 
> > One more question. The Server Name is not related at all to the
> > hostname or IP of the box. Correct?
> > 
> 
> host and IP are directly related ... DNS is simply assigning a name to a
> number. so for example:
> 
> My domain is flamebait.org its IP address is 208.247.194.146 of these
> two which is easier to remember for more people? ... the name is, most
> people associate things with names, like streets, friends, cars, houses
> etc ... with out DNS we would still be typing in IP's as addresses. so
> instead of http://qx.net you would type <A  HREF="http://208.235.89.10">http://208.235.89.10</A>, which
> again qx.net is easier to type and remember ... sence the internet
> revolves around numbers(IP addressing) it's easier for your computer to
> use the numbered address(IP address) and if you specify in your config
> file " services.flamebait.org " instead " 208.247.194.146 " your copy of
> services will just have to resolve it to the IP anyway ... so using the
> IP would be easier for your services ... especially if something
> happened to your DNS server.

I understand this. My question is is the Server Name (as defined 
by the ServerName entry in services.conf) related to the 
hostname/IP of the box? Convention seems to make the Server Name 
equal to the hostname but is this required?

Tyson

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From scotts at qx.net  Thu Sep  9 11:03:35 1999
From: scotts at qx.net (Scott Seufert)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Recommendations
Message-ID: 001401befaed$a2f71ed0$0959ebd0@orion.qx.net

a great solution is if you like Elite, to try Cyclone ircd. It's used on
slashdot's IRC network you can get a copy from slashdot there is a patch
that is needed for services though it isn't tough apply. Cyclone is based on
an older DALnet DreamForge and won't work with GeoStats,I wasn't that
impressed with GeoStats personally, Cyclone uses host masking very well and
services don't have a problem with it. you can search www.slashdot.org for
cyclone IRCD and the services patch needed for andy church's services is
there as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Narayan <jestercm@chatfamily.com>
To: IRC Services <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Date: Thursday, September 09, 1999 11:33 AM
Subject: RE: [IRCServices] Recommendations


>On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Pinto, Joao Luis (J.) wrote:
>
>> I started using Andy Church Services v4.2.2 with Elite ircd 2.0 beta 15,
>> Elite ircd beta 15 is very buggy so I had to get my hands on it and fixe
all
>> the bugs (I noticed) and inserted some new featues specially dedicated to
>> work with services, in the other side I had to improve Services to take
>> advantage of some features of Elite ircd like chanmode +a.
>
>The biggest bug you have to watch out for in Elite is the +L channel link
>mode.  Using it incorrectly, namely setting two channels to link to each
>other, leads to a core dump of the ircd.
>i.e. /mode #foo +L #bar
>     /mode #bar +L #foo
>
>The first user who tries to join either channel will get bounced between
>channels until the ircd core dumps.
>
>Elite 2.0 is out now, non-beta, but it is no longer free and the +L bug
>has not been fixed.
>
><snip>
>
>Any Dreamforge ircd works well with Services.  Bahamut may have some
>compatibility issues since it is part Dreamforge and part hybrid.
>
>-----
>David Narayan
>Server Administrator
>http://www.chatfamily.com
>
<snip>

Scott Seufert
aka katsklaw
Network Support
<A  HREF="http://qx.net">http://qx.net</A>

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From rendrag at eol.ieaust.org.au  Thu Sep  9 14:07:17 1999
From: rendrag at eol.ieaust.org.au (Damien Gardner)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: Re(2): [IRCServices] ping timeouts..
Message-ID: fc.000f54ac001a508f3b9aca00d7900c18.1a50df@eol.ieaust.org.au

tower@oit.pdx.edu writes:
>I understand this. My question is is the Server Name (as defined 
>by the ServerName entry in services.conf) related to the 
>hostname/IP of the box? Convention seems to make the Server Name 
>equal to the hostname but is this required?
Hi Tyson,

No, the ServerName entry doesn't have to have anything to do with the
hostname of the box the services are running on.. - most networks use
services.network.org as the services ServerName, but there usually isn't
actually a DNS entry for that hostname (Since no-one can actually connect
to the services anyway, there would be no point in doing this...)

Regards,

Damien Gardner Jnr
Systems Administrator & Software Engineer
Internet Solutions Australia
Email:  rendrag@eol.ieaust.org.au
Work:  http://www.isa.net.au/
Home: <A  HREF="http://www.rendrag.net/">http://www.rendrag.net/</A>
Phone: 0417 055 052
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From tower at oit.pdx.edu  Thu Sep  9 21:13:14 1999
From: tower at oit.pdx.edu (Tyson La Tourrette)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ping timeouts..
In-Reply-To: <37d6f0d3.00225@dragonfire.net>
References: 37d6f0d3.00225@dragonfire.net
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.4.10.9909092104490.19733&#45;100000@medusa.oit.pdx.edu

On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Andy Church wrote:

> >Here is a log from startup to timeout.
> >
> >[Sep 08 07:31:03 1999] Services 4.3pre4 (compiled for ircd.dal 4.4.15+) starting up
[...]
> >[Sep 08 07:36:13 1999] unknown message from server (NG :zealot.cat.pdx.edu)
> 
>      That's five minutes (and 10 seconds) from startup to ping.  I don't know
> what your ircd thinks it's doing with the Y:line, but in any case, just set
> ReadTimeout in services.conf to a larger value (like 6 minutes).

The funny thing is is that if I run services with -debug it will timeout 
in about 15-30 seconds. As far as I can tell messages will get randomlly 
garbled. it doesn't matter how long it has been idle or running. I am 
going to recompile both df and services and see if that helps..

I've bumped ReadTimeout to 10 minutes. Problems havent changed..

If anyone wants to look over some logs and configs feel free to ask. =)

Thanks everyone for your help.

Tyson

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From tower at oit.pdx.edu  Thu Sep  9 21:22:50 1999
From: tower at oit.pdx.edu (Tyson La Tourrette)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ping timeouts..
In-Reply-To: <37d6f0d3.00225@dragonfire.net>
References: 37d6f0d3.00225@dragonfire.net
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.4.10.9909092121110.19733&#45;100000@medusa.oit.pdx.edu

If I see this correctly services is recieving a ping but is ignoring it. Am I missing something?

[Sep 09 21:10:03.880407 1999] debug: Received: PING
[Sep 09 21:10:03.880904 1999] debug: Received: :zealot.cat.pdx.edu
[Sep 09 21:11:03.881775 1999] debug: Received: :zealot.cat.pdx.edu GNOTICE :No r
esponse from services.cat.pdx.edu[0.0.0.0], closing link

tyson

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From tower at oit.pdx.edu  Thu Sep  9 21:42:47 1999
From: tower at oit.pdx.edu (Tyson La Tourrette)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <001401befaed$a2f71ed0$0959ebd0@orion.qx.net>
References: 001401befaed$a2f71ed0$0959ebd0@orion.qx.net
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.4.10.9909092141360.19733&#45;100000@medusa.oit.pdx.edu

On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Scott Seufert wrote:

> a great solution is if you like Elite, to try Cyclone ircd. It's used on
> slashdot's IRC network you can get a copy from slashdot there is a patch
> that is needed for services though it isn't tough apply. Cyclone is based on
> an older DALnet DreamForge and won't work with GeoStats,I wasn't that
> impressed with GeoStats personally, Cyclone uses host masking very well and
> services don't have a problem with it. you can search www.slashdot.org for
> cyclone IRCD and the services patch needed for andy church's services is
> there as well.

www.slashnet.org where to go for info regarding cyclone.

tyson

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From jpinto9 at visteon.com  Fri Sep 10 00:14:59 1999
From: jpinto9 at visteon.com (Pinto, Joao Luis (J.))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ping timeouts..
Message-ID: 199909100910.FAA13327@mailfw3.ford.com



Regards, João Pinto
> App. Dev. & Integration Group - Information Systems Dept.
> Visteon Portugal (Palmela) - An Enterprise of Ford Motor Company
> 
*       E-Mail: jpinto9@visteon.com
*       Phone: 01-2339323
*       Outside Portugal: 351-1-2339323
*       FordNet: 8-233-9323



-----Original Message-----
From: Tyson La Tourrette [mailto:tower@oit.pdx.edu]
Sent: quinta-feira, 9 de setembro de 1999 16:05
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] ping timeouts..


There is no relation nor convention between ServerName and the hostname
where the services are running,
in IRC servers names are just ID's usually according to the hostname where
they are running but that's just a organization scheme, like some one said
before most of the network's dont have a hostname equal to ServerName.
On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, Scott Seufert wrote:

> Tyson La Tourrette wrote:
> 
> > One more question. The Server Name is not related at all to the
> > hostname or IP of the box. Correct?
> > 
> 
> host and IP are directly related ... DNS is simply assigning a name to a
> number. so for example:
> 
> My domain is flamebait.org its IP address is 208.247.194.146 of these
> two which is easier to remember for more people? ... the name is, most
> people associate things with names, like streets, friends, cars, houses
> etc ... with out DNS we would still be typing in IP's as addresses. so
> instead of <A  HREF="http://qx.net">http://qx.net</A> you would type <A  HREF="http://208.235.89.10">http://208.235.89.10</A>, which
> again qx.net is easier to type and remember ... sence the internet
> revolves around numbers(IP addressing) it's easier for your computer to
> use the numbered address(IP address) and if you specify in your config
> file " services.flamebait.org " instead " 208.247.194.146 " your copy of
> services will just have to resolve it to the IP anyway ... so using the
> IP would be easier for your services ... especially if something
> happened to your DNS server.

I understand this. My question is is the Server Name (as defined 
by the ServerName entry in services.conf) related to the 
hostname/IP of the box? Convention seems to make the Server Name 
equal to the hostname but is this required?

Tyson

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From scotts at qx.net  Fri Sep 10 11:59:26 1999
From: scotts at qx.net (Scott Seufert)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ping timeouts..
Message-ID: 001601befbbe$9cf718b0$0959ebd0@orion.qx.net


-----Original Message-----
From: Pinto, Joao Luis (J.) <jpinto9@visteon.com>
To: 'ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org' <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Date: Friday, September 10, 1999 7:03 AM
Subject: RE: [IRCServices] ping timeouts..




Regards, João Pinto
> App. Dev. & Integration Group - Information Systems Dept.
> Visteon Portugal (Palmela) - An Enterprise of Ford Motor Company
>
* E-Mail: jpinto9@visteon.com
* Phone: 01-2339323
* Outside Portugal: 351-1-2339323
* FordNet: 8-233-9323



-----Original Message-----
From: Tyson La Tourrette [mailto:tower@oit.pdx.edu]
Sent: quinta-feira, 9 de setembro de 1999 16:05
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] ping timeouts..


There is no relation nor convention between ServerName and the hostname
where the services are running,
in IRC servers names are just ID's usually according to the hostname where
they are running but that's just a organization scheme, like some one said
before most of the network's dont have a hostname equal to ServerName.
On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, Scott Seufert wrote:

> Tyson La Tourrette wrote:
>
> > One more question. The Server Name is not related at all to the
> > hostname or IP of the box. Correct?
> >
>
> host and IP are directly related ... DNS is simply assigning a name to a
> number. so for example:
>
> My domain is flamebait.org its IP address is 208.247.194.146 of these
> two which is easier to remember for more people? ... the name is, most
> people associate things with names, like streets, friends, cars, houses
> etc ... with out DNS we would still be typing in IP's as addresses. so
> instead of <A  HREF="http://qx.net">http://qx.net</A> you would type <A  HREF="http://208.235.89.10">http://208.235.89.10</A>, which
> again qx.net is easier to type and remember ... sence the internet
> revolves around numbers(IP addressing) it's easier for your computer to
> use the numbered address(IP address) and if you specify in your config
> file " services.flamebait.org " instead " 208.247.194.146 " your copy of
> services will just have to resolve it to the IP anyway ... so using the
> IP would be easier for your services ... especially if something
> happened to your DNS server.

I understand this. My question is is the Server Name (as defined
by the ServerName entry in services.conf) related to the
hostname/IP of the box? Convention seems to make the Server Name
equal to the hostname but is this required?


not at all, usually networks use "services.domain.com"  as their services
server name. It is best for this host NOT to resolve to anything, reason
being that services will be harder to attach via DoS. Sorry I misunderstood
your question ;). I was revering to the RemoteServer in which you connect
your services too.

1.2.3.4 6667 "secretpassword"


Tyson

Scott Seufert
aka katsklaw
Network Support
<A  HREF="http://qx.net">http://qx.net</A>

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From jozeph at globalmedia.com.br  Fri Sep 10 14:28:21 1999
From: jozeph at globalmedia.com.br (Jozenobio de Melo Brasil)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9909092141360.19733-100000@medusa.oit.pdx.edu>
References: Pine.GSO.4.10.9909092141360.19733&#45;100000@medusa.oit.pdx.edu
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.00.9909101828070.7364&#45;100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br

Hello,

        The CORRECT address is: http://www.slashnet.org

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               |  a maldade da minoria tende sempre a desaparecer! "
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The box said "Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0, or better", so I installed
Linux.

On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Tyson La Tourrette wrote:

> On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Scott Seufert wrote:
> 
> > a great solution is if you like Elite, to try Cyclone ircd. It's used on
> > slashdot's IRC network you can get a copy from slashdot there is a patch
> > that is needed for services though it isn't tough apply. Cyclone is based on
> > an older DALnet DreamForge and won't work with GeoStats,I wasn't that
> > impressed with GeoStats personally, Cyclone uses host masking very well and
> > services don't have a problem with it. you can search www.slashdot.org for
> > cyclone IRCD and the services patch needed for andy church's services is
> > there as well.
> 
> www.slashnet.org where to go for info regarding cyclone.
> 
> tyson
> 
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From scotts at qx.net  Fri Sep 10 15:19:02 1999
From: scotts at qx.net (Scott Seufert)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Recommendations
Message-ID: 002301befbda$7e9a3430$0959ebd0@orion.qx.net

well lets get technical .. ;P

ftp://ftp.slashnet.org/pub/cyclone

If by change you happen to <A  HREF="http://www.slashdot.org">http://www.slashdot.org</A> and choose "search
FreshMeat" you will find a list of mirrors for the cyclone daemon which I
find more useful than a website with a single link to their ftp server.
that is why I said <A  HREF="http://www.slashdot.org">http://www.slashdot.org</A>. Or you can ask me and I'll email
them to you ...

-----Original Message-----
From: Jozenobio de Melo Brasil <jozeph@globalmedia.com.br>
To: Tyson La Tourrette <tower@oit.pdx.edu>
Cc: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Date: Friday, September 10, 1999 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Recommendations


Hello,

The CORRECT address is: <A  HREF="http://www.slashnet.org">http://www.slashnet.org</A>


<snip>


Scott Seufert
aka katsklaw@irc
Network Support
<A  HREF="http://qx.net">http://qx.net</A>


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From achurch at dragonfire.net  Fri Sep 10 21:45:10 1999
From: achurch at dragonfire.net (Andy Church)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:48 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ping timeouts..
Message-ID: 37d8fdbb.00762@dragonfire.net

>If I see this correctly services is recieving a ping but is ignoring it. Am I missing something?
>
>[Sep 09 21:10:03.880407 1999] debug: Received: PING
>[Sep 09 21:10:03.880904 1999] debug: Received: :zealot.cat.pdx.edu
>[Sep 09 21:11:03.881775 1999] debug: Received: :zealot.cat.pdx.edu GNOTICE :No r
>esponse from services.cat.pdx.edu[0.0.0.0], closing link

     What's happening is that Services is reading part of a line and giving
up in the middle--I think this is because of a timeout, but if increasing
ReadTimeout doesn't solve the problem, maybe it's not what I think.  Try
setting the ping frequency on your ircd to something really low, like 5 or
10 seconds, and see if that helps.

  --Andrew Church
    achurch@dragonfire.net
    http://achurch.dragonfire.net/
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From tower at oit.pdx.edu  Sat Sep 11 10:28:18 1999
From: tower at oit.pdx.edu (Tyson La Tourrette)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ping timeouts.
In-Reply-To: <37d8fdbb.00762@dragonfire.net>
References: 37d8fdbb.00762@dragonfire.net
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.4.10.9909111024090.19733&#45;100000@medusa.oit.pdx.edu

This is with a PingFreq of 5:

[Sep 11 10:14:46.760569 1999] debug: Received: PING :irc.cat.pdx.edu
[Sep 11 10:14:46.761210 1999] debug: Sent: :services.irc.cat.pdx.edu PONG services.irc.cat.pdx.edu irc.cat.pdx.edu
[Sep 11 10:16:26.760594 1999] debug: Received: PING :irc.cat.pdx.edu
[Sep 11 10:16:26.761267 1999] debug: Sent: :services.irc.cat.pdx.edu PONG services.irc.cat.pdx.edu irc.cat.pdx.edu
[Sep 11 10:18:06.760634 1999] debug: Received: PING :irc.cat.pdx.edu
[Sep 11 10:18:06.761463 1999] debug: Sent: :services.irc.cat.pdx.edu PONG services.irc.cat.pdx.edu irc.cat.pdx.edu
[Sep 11 10:18:06.761787 1999] debug: Saving databases
[Sep 11 10:19:46.760410 1999] debug: Received: P
[Sep 11 10:19:46.760755 1999] unknown message from server (P)
[Sep 11 10:19:46.761210 1999] debug: Received: NG :irc.cat.pdx.edu
[Sep 11 10:19:46.761508 1999] unknown message from server (NG :irc.cat.pdx.edu)
[Sep 11 10:20:41.563252 1999] debug: Received: :irc.cat.pdx.edu GNOTICE :No response from services.irc.cat.pdx.edu[0.0.0.0], closing link
[Sep 11 10:20:41.563898 1999] debug: Received: ERROR :Closing Link: services.irc.cat.pdx.edu[0.0.0.0] (Ping timeout)
[Sep 11 10:20:41.564195 1999] unknown message from server (ERROR :Closing Link: services.irc.cat.pdx.edu[0.0.0.0] (Ping timeout))
[Sep 11 10:20:41.564940 1999] Read error from server: No such file or directory
[Sep 11 10:20:41.565432 1999] debug: Sent: :services.irc.cat.pdx.edu SQUIT services.irc.cat.pdx.edu :Read error from server: No such file or directory

btw, this is ocurring with services 4.2.4 and 4.3pre4 with both cyclone0.4p1 and df467 ircds.

On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Andy Church wrote:

>      What's happening is that Services is reading part of a line and giving
> up in the middle--I think this is because of a timeout, but if increasing
> ReadTimeout doesn't solve the problem, maybe it's not what I think.  Try
> setting the ping frequency on your ircd to something really low, like 5 or
> 10 seconds, and see if that helps.

Tyson

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From tower at oit.pdx.edu  Sat Sep 11 11:11:54 1999
From: tower at oit.pdx.edu (Tyson La Tourrette)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ping timeouts..
In-Reply-To: <37d8fdbb.00762@dragonfire.net>
References: 37d8fdbb.00762@dragonfire.net
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.4.10.9909111045340.19733&#45;100000@medusa.oit.pdx.edu

After further testing here is what I found.

The first string recieved is broken:

   [Sep 11 10:35:40.403421 1999] debug: Sent: :Global MODE Global +oi
   [Sep 11 10:35:40.403733 1999] debug: Received: :i
   [Sep 11 10:35:40.404340 1999] debug: Received: c.cat.pdx.edu NOTICE AUTH :*** Looking up your hostname...
   [Sep 11 10:35:40.404650 1999] unknown message from server (c.cat.pdx.edu NOTICE AUTH :*** Looking up your hostname...)
   
After the EBURST command is recieved and logged that services doesn't know what it is the next string is broken:

   [Sep 11 10:35:40.413894 1999] debug: Received: :irc.cat.pdx.edu EBURST
   [Sep 11 10:35:40.414190 1999] unknown message from server (:irc.cat.pdx.edu EBURST)
   [Sep 11 10:35:50.450448 1999] debug: Received: PING
   [Sep 11 10:35:50.450884 1999] debug: Received: :irc.cat.pdx.edu
   [Sep 11 10:35:55.451756 1999] debug: Received: :irc.cat.pdx.edu GNOTICE :No response from services.irc.cat.pdx.edu[0.0.0.0], closing link

   [Sep 11 10:50:18.230329 1999] debug: Received: :irc.cat.pdx.edu EBURST
   [Sep 11 10:50:18.230626 1999] unknown message from server (:irc.cat.pdx.edu EBURST)
   [Sep 11 10:50:19.198467 1999] debug: Received: :tys
   [Sep 11 10:50:19.198876 1999] debug: Received: nl MODE tysonl +owg
   [Sep 11 10:50:19.199174 1999] unknown message from server (nl MODE tysonl +owg)

And after the database is saved, the next string recieved is broken:

   [Sep 11 10:55:18.190564 1999] debug: Received: PING :irc.cat.pdx.edu
   [Sep 11 10:55:18.191015 1999] debug: Sent: :services.irc.cat.pdx.edu PONG services.irc.cat.pdx.edu irc.cat.pdx.edu
   [Sep 11 10:55:18.191336 1999] debug: Saving databases
   [Sep 11 10:55:28.190450 1999] debug: Received: P
   [Sep 11 10:55:28.192143 1999] unknown message from server (P)
   [Sep 11 10:55:28.192537 1999] debug: Received: NG :irc.cat.pdx.edu
   [Sep 11 10:55:28.192833 1999] unknown message from server (NG :irc.cat.pdx.edu)
   [Sep 11 10:55:33.191764 1999] debug: Received: :irc.cat.pdx.edu GNOTICE :No response from services.irc.cat.pdx.edu[0.0.0.0], closing link

On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Andy Church wrote:

>      What's happening is that Services is reading part of a line and giving
> up in the middle--I think this is because of a timeout, but if increasing
> ReadTimeout doesn't solve the problem, maybe it's not what I think.  Try
> setting the ping frequency on your ircd to something really low, like 5 or
> 10 seconds, and see if that helps.

Tyson

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From achurch at dragonfire.net  Sun Sep 12 12:19:12 1999
From: achurch at dragonfire.net (Andrew Church)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ping timeouts..
Message-ID: 37db1bec.00701@dragonfire.net

>After further testing here is what I found.

     I tried all three of these and there were no problems whatsoever.  What
OS are you using?

>The first string recieved is broken:
>
>   [Sep 11 10:35:40.403421 1999] debug: Sent: :Global MODE Global +oi
>   [Sep 11 10:35:40.403733 1999] debug: Received: :i
>   [Sep 11 10:35:40.404340 1999] debug: Received: c.cat.pdx.edu NOTICE AUTH :*** Looking up your hostname...
>   [Sep 11 10:35:40.404650 1999] unknown message from server (c.cat.pdx.edu NOTICE AUTH :*** Looking up your hostname...)
>   
>After the EBURST command is recieved and logged that services doesn't know what it is the next string is broken:
>
>   [Sep 11 10:35:40.413894 1999] debug: Received: :irc.cat.pdx.edu EBURST
>   [Sep 11 10:35:40.414190 1999] unknown message from server (:irc.cat.pdx.edu EBURST)
>   [Sep 11 10:35:50.450448 1999] debug: Received: PING
>   [Sep 11 10:35:50.450884 1999] debug: Received: :irc.cat.pdx.edu
>   [Sep 11 10:35:55.451756 1999] debug: Received: :irc.cat.pdx.edu GNOTICE :No response from services.irc.cat.pdx.edu[0.0.0.0], closing link
>
>   [Sep 11 10:50:18.230329 1999] debug: Received: :irc.cat.pdx.edu EBURST
>   [Sep 11 10:50:18.230626 1999] unknown message from server (:irc.cat.pdx.edu EBURST)
>   [Sep 11 10:50:19.198467 1999] debug: Received: :tys
>   [Sep 11 10:50:19.198876 1999] debug: Received: nl MODE tysonl +owg
>   [Sep 11 10:50:19.199174 1999] unknown message from server (nl MODE tysonl +owg)
>
>And after the database is saved, the next string recieved is broken:
>
>   [Sep 11 10:55:18.190564 1999] debug: Received: PING :irc.cat.pdx.edu
>   [Sep 11 10:55:18.191015 1999] debug: Sent: :services.irc.cat.pdx.edu PONG services.irc.cat.pdx.edu irc.cat.pdx.edu
>   [Sep 11 10:55:18.191336 1999] debug: Saving databases
>   [Sep 11 10:55:28.190450 1999] debug: Received: P
>   [Sep 11 10:55:28.192143 1999] unknown message from server (P)
>   [Sep 11 10:55:28.192537 1999] debug: Received: NG :irc.cat.pdx.edu
>   [Sep 11 10:55:28.192833 1999] unknown message from server (NG :irc.cat.pdx.edu)
>   [Sep 11 10:55:33.191764 1999] debug: Received: :irc.cat.pdx.edu GNOTICE :No response from services.irc.cat.pdx.edu[0.0.0.0], closing link
>
>On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Andy Church wrote:
>
>>      What's happening is that Services is reading part of a line and giving
>> up in the middle--I think this is because of a timeout, but if increasing
>> ReadTimeout doesn't solve the problem, maybe it's not what I think.  Try
>> setting the ping frequency on your ircd to something really low, like 5 or
>> 10 seconds, and see if that helps.
>
>Tyson
>
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From achurch at dragonfire.net  Sun Sep 12 12:20:24 1999
From: achurch at dragonfire.net (Andrew Church)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ping timeouts.
Message-ID: 37db1c45.00707@dragonfire.net

>This is with a PingFreq of 5:
>
>[Sep 11 10:14:46.760569 1999] debug: Received: PING :irc.cat.pdx.edu
>[Sep 11 10:16:26.760594 1999] debug: Received: PING :irc.cat.pdx.edu

     That's 1 minute and 40 seconds (100 seconds).  Your IRC server must be
doing something weird with the ping frequency, or else you're not setting
it correctly.

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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Sun Sep 12 04:45:16 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ircservices-4.3 released
Message-ID: 001201befd14$47ff9ce0$0100a8c0@shadow

IRC Services version 4.3 has been released. There are no changes since
4.3pre4 apart from updated Portuguese and Italian language files. This means
that only English, Portuguese and Italian languages are up to date. German,
and hopefully the other languages, will be included and up to date in the
next release.

You can get this version from:

ftp://ender.shadowfire.org/pub/ircservices/ircservices-4.3.tar.gz
        or
<A  HREF="ftp://ftp.electrocity.com/pub/ircservices/ircservices-4.3.tar.gz">ftp://ftp.electrocity.com/pub/ircservices/ircservices-4.3.tar.gz</A>

Please let me know if there are any problems - everything should be in
working order though, seeing as there have been no notable problems with
4.3pre4.

Regards, Andrew

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From tower at oit.pdx.edu  Sun Sep 12 05:50:38 1999
From: tower at oit.pdx.edu (Tyson La Tourrette)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ping timeouts..
In-Reply-To: <37db1bec.00701@dragonfire.net>
References: 37db1bec.00701@dragonfire.net
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.4.10.9909120548500.19733&#45;100000@medusa.oit.pdx.edu

Solaris 2.7 for x86 using gcc 2.95 and gmake 3.77

tyson

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999, Andrew Church wrote:

> >After further testing here is what I found.
> 
>      I tried all three of these and there were no problems whatsoever.  What
> OS are you using?

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From IRC at pagans.org  Sun Sep 12 05:55:18 1999
From: IRC at pagans.org (Lim Cheng Siong)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ircservices-4.3 released
References: <001201befd14$47ff9ce0$0100a8c0@shadow>
Message-ID: 006b01befd1e$16219b60$7c97bcca@jaring.my

Why is it so?

[onglai ircservices]$ ./listnicks
Segmentation fault

There are no error when compiling and etc..





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From tower at oit.pdx.edu  Sun Sep 12 06:10:58 1999
From: tower at oit.pdx.edu (Tyson La Tourrette)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ping timeouts.
In-Reply-To: <37db1c45.00707@dragonfire.net>
References: 37db1c45.00707@dragonfire.net
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.4.10.9909120607150.19733&#45;100000@medusa.oit.pdx.edu

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999, Andrew Church wrote:

> >This is with a PingFreq of 5:
> >
> >[Sep 11 10:14:46.760569 1999] debug: Received: PING :irc.cat.pdx.edu
> >[Sep 11 10:16:26.760594 1999] debug: Received: PING :irc.cat.pdx.edu
> 
>      That's 1 minute and 40 seconds (100 seconds).  Your IRC server must be
> doing something weird with the ping frequency, or else you're not setting
> it correctly.

I guess so. This is the Y line:  Y:99:5:90:1:3500000

tyson

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From achurch at dragonfire.net  Sun Sep 12 23:03:53 1999
From: achurch at dragonfire.net (Andrew Church)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ping timeouts..
Message-ID: 37dbb2f1.11172@dragonfire.net

>Solaris 2.7 for x86 using gcc 2.95 and gmake 3.77

     Is anyone else using this setup?  I'm inclined to blame the OS and/or
libc since I can't reproduce the problems on my Linux box.

>tyson
>
>On Sun, 12 Sep 1999, Andrew Church wrote:
>
>> >After further testing here is what I found.
>> 
>>      I tried all three of these and there were no problems whatsoever.  What
>> OS are you using?
>
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From jozeph at globalmedia.com.br  Mon Sep 13 06:35:00 1999
From: jozeph at globalmedia.com.br (Jozenobio de Melo Brasil)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ChanServ JOIN :>
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.00.9909131032070.17452&#45;100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br

Hello People,

I would like to make with that the ChanServ entered in ALL the registered
channels of the similar Network... to the X/W of the Undernet.

What I make? Can help me? It's only a:

send_cmd(s_ChanServ, "JOIN %s", chan);

But, where I post it? :)))

Thanks,
Jozeph Brasil

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From jozeph at globalmedia.com.br  Tue Sep 14 19:10:04 1999
From: jozeph at globalmedia.com.br (Jozenobio de Melo Brasil)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ### Need help ###
In-Reply-To: <005001befeaa$15e24b80$fe00a8c0@netmark>
References: 005001befeaa$15e24b80$fe00a8c0@netmark
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.00.9909141451570.28177&#45;100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br

I would like to make with that the ChanServ enters in all the registered
channels of the network... similar process to the X/W of the Undernet

Anyone can help me?

--
--------------------------------------------------------------------
 \|/ --- \|/   | Jozenóbio de Melo Brasil.
  @~/ Oo \~@   | jozeph@globalmedia.com.br
 /_( \__/ )_\  | http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph
    \__U_/     | " Onde a maioria vive com a bondade,
               |  a maldade da minoria tende sempre a desaparecer! "
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The box said "Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0, or better", so I installed
Linux.

On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, CAC wrote:

> *****************************************************
> TREINAMENTO METROLOGIC DO BRASIL  -  AUTOMAÇÃO COMERCIAL
> *****************************************************
> 
> Conheça mais sobre os produtos da Metrologic do Brasil para automação
> comercial.
> Teremos também a participação do Sr. Kiyochi Matsuda da Verifone.
> 
> Palestrantes:   Isac Berman   -  Diretor da Metrologic do Brasil
>                       Tharis Nishida -  Metrologic : Gerente Região Nordeste
> 
>                       Jorge Makoto Shintani - Gerente Comercial do Mini
> Caixa Verifone
> 
> PROGRAMA:
> 
> 14h00 - 14h15 Credenciamento.
> 
> 14h15 - 15h00 Informações sobre a Metrologic do Brasil.
> 
> 15h00 - 16h00 Informações sobre a concorrência e mercado, vantagens em
> trabalhar com a Metrologic do Brasil
> 
> 16h00 - 16h20 Coffee-break
> 
> 16h20 - 17h00 Mini Caixa Verifone - A solução definitiva em TEF
> (Transferência Eletrônica de Fundos) vantagens em utilizar, politica de
> preços e opções de financiamento.
> 
> 17h00 - 17h30 Apresentação do SIC - Sistema Integrado Comercial. A Solução
> em frente de caixa e retaguarda com mais de 3.500 cópias comercializadas em
> todo o Brasil. Homologado pela Yanco e outros fabricantes de ECF.
> 
> Inscrições abertas ATÉ 14/09 ÀS 18:00h - VAGAS LIMITADAS
> 
> Inscreva-se já!  PELO E-MAIL: volnei@netmark.com.br  ou pelo telefone (81)
> 339-2277
> 
> NÃO PERCA A OPORTUNIDADE  DE CONHECER AS NOVIDADES NO MERCADO DE AUTOMAÇÃO
> !!
> 
> Local: Auditório interno Netmark
> End. Av. Mascarenhas de Moraes, 4008A - Imbiribeira - Recife/PE
> Data: 15 de Setembro (Quarta-feira)
> Horário: 14h00 às 17h30
> VAGAS LIMITADAS - (confirme sua presença, por e-mail ou fax abaixo)
> 
> ________________________________________
> Volnei Rosa e Silva - Coord. Automação Comercial
> volnei@netmark.com.br / site: www.netmark.com.br
> Netmark Distribuidora de Informática Ltda.
> Telefax: 55 (0xx) 81 339-2277
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From jpinto9 at visteon.com  Wed Sep 15 00:12:31 1999
From: jpinto9 at visteon.com (Pinto, Joao Luis (J.))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ### Need help ###
Message-ID: 199909150712.DAA03333@mailfw3.ford.com

You can put hat on function on_join, however you have to make sure your
icrcd allows a user to join so much channels, because mostr ircd limits
users to join 10 or 20 channels at once.

Regards, João Pinto
> App. Dev. & Integration Group - Information Systems Dept.
> Visteon Portugal (Palmela) - An Enterprise of Ford Motor Company
> 
*       E-Mail: jpinto9@visteon.com
*       Phone: 01-2339323
*       Outside Portugal: 351-1-2339323
*       FordNet: 8-233-9323



-----Original Message-----
From: Jozenobio de Melo Brasil [mailto:jozeph@globalmedia.com.br]
Sent: quarta-feira, 15 de setembro de 1999 3:10
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: [IRCServices] ### Need help ###


I would like to make with that the ChanServ enters in all the registered
channels of the network... similar process to the X/W of the Undernet

Anyone can help me?

--
--------------------------------------------------------------------
 \|/ --- \|/   | Jozenóbio de Melo Brasil.
  @~/ Oo \~@   | jozeph@globalmedia.com.br
 /_( \__/ )_\  | <A  HREF="http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph">http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph</A>
    \__U_/     | " Onde a maioria vive com a bondade,
               |  a maldade da minoria tende sempre a desaparecer! "
--------------------------------------------------------------------
The box said "Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0, or better", so I installed
Linux.

On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, CAC wrote:

> *****************************************************
> TREINAMENTO METROLOGIC DO BRASIL  -  AUTOMAÇÃO COMERCIAL
> *****************************************************
> 
> Conheça mais sobre os produtos da Metrologic do Brasil para automação
> comercial.
> Teremos também a participação do Sr. Kiyochi Matsuda da Verifone.
> 
> Palestrantes:   Isac Berman   -  Diretor da Metrologic do Brasil
>                       Tharis Nishida -  Metrologic : Gerente Região
Nordeste
> 
>                       Jorge Makoto Shintani - Gerente Comercial do Mini
> Caixa Verifone
> 
> PROGRAMA:
> 
> 14h00 - 14h15 Credenciamento.
> 
> 14h15 - 15h00 Informações sobre a Metrologic do Brasil.
> 
> 15h00 - 16h00 Informações sobre a concorrência e mercado, vantagens em
> trabalhar com a Metrologic do Brasil
> 
> 16h00 - 16h20 Coffee-break
> 
> 16h20 - 17h00 Mini Caixa Verifone - A solução definitiva em TEF
> (Transferência Eletrônica de Fundos) vantagens em utilizar, politica de
> preços e opções de financiamento.
> 
> 17h00 - 17h30 Apresentação do SIC - Sistema Integrado Comercial. A Solução
> em frente de caixa e retaguarda com mais de 3.500 cópias comercializadas
em
> todo o Brasil. Homologado pela Yanco e outros fabricantes de ECF.
> 
> Inscrições abertas ATÉ 14/09 ÀS 18:00h - VAGAS LIMITADAS
> 
> Inscreva-se já!  PELO E-MAIL: volnei@netmark.com.br  ou pelo telefone (81)
> 339-2277
> 
> NÃO PERCA A OPORTUNIDADE  DE CONHECER AS NOVIDADES NO MERCADO DE AUTOMAÇÃO
> !!
> 
> Local: Auditório interno Netmark
> End. Av. Mascarenhas de Moraes, 4008A - Imbiribeira - Recife/PE
> Data: 15 de Setembro (Quarta-feira)
> Horário: 14h00 às 17h30
> VAGAS LIMITADAS - (confirme sua presença, por e-mail ou fax abaixo)
> 
> ________________________________________
> Volnei Rosa e Silva - Coord. Automação Comercial
> volnei@netmark.com.br / site: www.netmark.com.br
> Netmark Distribuidora de Informática Ltda.
> Telefax: 55 (0xx) 81 339-2277
> 


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From jozeph at globalmedia.com.br  Wed Sep 15 04:06:17 1999
From: jozeph at globalmedia.com.br (Jozenobio de Melo Brasil)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ### Need help ###
In-Reply-To: <199909150712.DAA03333@mailfw3.ford.com>
References: 199909150712.DAA03333@mailfw3.ford.com
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.00.9909150805100.22183&#45;100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br

Ok,

        But a can especify: IsServices (you can join on many channels)...
        Can you give me a on_join patch? :)

Thanks
Jozeph

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--------------------------------------------------------------------
 \|/ --- \|/   | Jozenóbio de Melo Brasil.
  @~/ Oo \~@   | jozeph@globalmedia.com.br
 /_( \__/ )_\  | http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph
    \__U_/     | " Onde a maioria vive com a bondade,
               |  a maldade da minoria tende sempre a desaparecer! "
--------------------------------------------------------------------
The box said "Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0, or better", so I installed
Linux.

On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Pinto, Joao Luis (J.) wrote:

> You can put hat on function on_join, however you have to make sure your
> icrcd allows a user to join so much channels, because mostr ircd limits
> users to join 10 or 20 channels at once.
> 
> Regards, João Pinto
> > App. Dev. & Integration Group - Information Systems Dept.
> > Visteon Portugal (Palmela) - An Enterprise of Ford Motor Company
> > 
> *     E-Mail: jpinto9@visteon.com
> *     Phone: 01-2339323
> *     Outside Portugal: 351-1-2339323
> *     FordNet: 8-233-9323
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jozenobio de Melo Brasil [<A  HREF="mailto:jozeph@globalmedia.com.br">mailto:jozeph@globalmedia.com.br</A>]
> Sent: quarta-feira, 15 de setembro de 1999 3:10
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: [IRCServices] ### Need help ###
> 
> 
> I would like to make with that the ChanServ enters in all the registered
> channels of the network... similar process to the X/W of the Undernet
> 
> Anyone can help me?
> 
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>  \|/ --- \|/   | Jozenóbio de Melo Brasil.
>   @~/ Oo \~@   | jozeph@globalmedia.com.br
>  /_( \__/ )_\  | <A  HREF="http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph">http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph</A>
>     \__U_/     | " Onde a maioria vive com a bondade,
>                |  a maldade da minoria tende sempre a desaparecer! "
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> The box said "Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0, or better", so I installed
> Linux.
> 
> On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, CAC wrote:
> 
> > *****************************************************
> > TREINAMENTO METROLOGIC DO BRASIL  -  AUTOMAÇÃO COMERCIAL
> > *****************************************************
> > 
> > Conheça mais sobre os produtos da Metrologic do Brasil para automação
> > comercial.
> > Teremos também a participação do Sr. Kiyochi Matsuda da Verifone.
> > 
> > Palestrantes:   Isac Berman   -  Diretor da Metrologic do Brasil
> >                       Tharis Nishida -  Metrologic : Gerente Região
> Nordeste
> > 
> >                       Jorge Makoto Shintani - Gerente Comercial do Mini
> > Caixa Verifone
> > 
> > PROGRAMA:
> > 
> > 14h00 - 14h15 Credenciamento.
> > 
> > 14h15 - 15h00 Informações sobre a Metrologic do Brasil.
> > 
> > 15h00 - 16h00 Informações sobre a concorrência e mercado, vantagens em
> > trabalhar com a Metrologic do Brasil
> > 
> > 16h00 - 16h20 Coffee-break
> > 
> > 16h20 - 17h00 Mini Caixa Verifone - A solução definitiva em TEF
> > (Transferência Eletrônica de Fundos) vantagens em utilizar, politica de
> > preços e opções de financiamento.
> > 
> > 17h00 - 17h30 Apresentação do SIC - Sistema Integrado Comercial. A Solução
> > em frente de caixa e retaguarda com mais de 3.500 cópias comercializadas
> em
> > todo o Brasil. Homologado pela Yanco e outros fabricantes de ECF.
> > 
> > Inscrições abertas ATÉ 14/09 ÀS 18:00h - VAGAS LIMITADAS
> > 
> > Inscreva-se já!  PELO E-MAIL: volnei@netmark.com.br  ou pelo telefone (81)
> > 339-2277
> > 
> > NÃO PERCA A OPORTUNIDADE  DE CONHECER AS NOVIDADES NO MERCADO DE AUTOMAÇÃO
> > !!
> > 
> > Local: Auditório interno Netmark
> > End. Av. Mascarenhas de Moraes, 4008A - Imbiribeira - Recife/PE
> > Data: 15 de Setembro (Quarta-feira)
> > Horário: 14h00 às 17h30
> > VAGAS LIMITADAS - (confirme sua presença, por e-mail ou fax abaixo)
> > 
> > ________________________________________
> > Volnei Rosa e Silva - Coord. Automação Comercial
> > volnei@netmark.com.br / site: www.netmark.com.br
> > Netmark Distribuidora de Informática Ltda.
> > Telefax: 55 (0xx) 81 339-2277
> > 
> 
> 
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From jestercm at chatfamily.com  Wed Sep 15 08:24:27 1999
From: jestercm at chatfamily.com (David Narayan)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ### Need help ###
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.00.9909150805100.22183-100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br>
References: Pine.LNX.4.00.9909150805100.22183&#45;100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.3.96.990915111337.3386A&#45;100000@ns

You can use something like this in m_register (chanserv.c)

/* ChanServ joins newly registered channel */
send_cmd(s_ChanServ, "JOIN %s", chan)

/* ChanServ ops itself */
send_cmd(s_ChanServ, "MODE %s +o %s", chan, s_ChanServ) // ChanServ ops
itself

Don't forget to add something similar so that ChanServ parts when they
drop the channel. You may also want to include protection so ChanServ
doesnt get flooded out or kicked or what not.  In the Undernet ircd
X and W are set umode +d (deaf).

In your IRCD you can change this part of m_join in channel.c

 if (sptr->user->joined >= MAXCHANNELSPERUSER
  {
   sendto_one(sptr,err_str(ERR_TOOMANYCHANNELS), me.name, parv[0], name);
   return 0
  }

/* Change to this */

 if (sptr->user->joined >= MAXCHANNELSPERUSER && !IsAnOper(sptr))
  {
   sendto_one(sptr,err_str(ERR_TOOMANYCHANNELS), me.name, parv[0], name);
   return 0
  }

/* This allows opers to be in more then the MAXCHANNELS and since ChanServ
   is an oper by default it will apply to it as well */

Hope this helps.

-----
David Narayan
Server Administrator
http://www.chatfamily.com

On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Jozenobio de Melo Brasil wrote:

> Ok,
> 
>       But a can especify: IsServices (you can join on many channels)...
>       Can you give me a on_join patch? :)
> 
> Thanks
> Jozeph
> 
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>  \|/ --- \|/   | Jozenóbio de Melo Brasil.
>   @~/ Oo \~@   | jozeph@globalmedia.com.br
>  /_( \__/ )_\  | <A  HREF="http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph">http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph</A>
>     \__U_/     | " Onde a maioria vive com a bondade,
>                |  a maldade da minoria tende sempre a desaparecer! "
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> The box said "Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0, or better", so I installed
> Linux.
> 
> On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Pinto, Joao Luis (J.) wrote:
> 
> > You can put hat on function on_join, however you have to make sure your
> > icrcd allows a user to join so much channels, because mostr ircd limits
> > users to join 10 or 20 channels at once.
> > 
> > Regards, João Pinto
> > > App. Dev. & Integration Group - Information Systems Dept.
> > > Visteon Portugal (Palmela) - An Enterprise of Ford Motor Company
> > > 
> > *   E-Mail: jpinto9@visteon.com
> > *   Phone: 01-2339323
> > *   Outside Portugal: 351-1-2339323
> > *   FordNet: 8-233-9323
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jozenobio de Melo Brasil [<A  HREF="mailto:jozeph@globalmedia.com.br">mailto:jozeph@globalmedia.com.br</A>]
> > Sent: quarta-feira, 15 de setembro de 1999 3:10
> > To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> > Subject: [IRCServices] ### Need help ###
> > 
> > 
> > I would like to make with that the ChanServ enters in all the registered
> > channels of the network... similar process to the X/W of the Undernet
> > 
> > Anyone can help me?
> > 
> > --
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> >  \|/ --- \|/   | Jozenóbio de Melo Brasil.
> >   @~/ Oo \~@   | jozeph@globalmedia.com.br
> >  /_( \__/ )_\  | <A  HREF="http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph">http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph</A>
> >     \__U_/     | " Onde a maioria vive com a bondade,
> >                |  a maldade da minoria tende sempre a desaparecer! "
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > The box said "Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0, or better", so I installed
> > Linux.
> > 
> > On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, CAC wrote:
> > 
> > > *****************************************************
> > > TREINAMENTO METROLOGIC DO BRASIL  -  AUTOMAÇÃO COMERCIAL
> > > *****************************************************
> > > 
> > > Conheça mais sobre os produtos da Metrologic do Brasil para automação
> > > comercial.
> > > Teremos também a participação do Sr. Kiyochi Matsuda da Verifone.
> > > 
> > > Palestrantes:   Isac Berman   -  Diretor da Metrologic do Brasil
> > >                       Tharis Nishida -  Metrologic : Gerente Região
> > Nordeste
> > > 
> > >                       Jorge Makoto Shintani - Gerente Comercial do Mini
> > > Caixa Verifone
> > > 
> > > PROGRAMA:
> > > 
> > > 14h00 - 14h15 Credenciamento.
> > > 
> > > 14h15 - 15h00 Informações sobre a Metrologic do Brasil.
> > > 
> > > 15h00 - 16h00 Informações sobre a concorrência e mercado, vantagens em
> > > trabalhar com a Metrologic do Brasil
> > > 
> > > 16h00 - 16h20 Coffee-break
> > > 
> > > 16h20 - 17h00 Mini Caixa Verifone - A solução definitiva em TEF
> > > (Transferência Eletrônica de Fundos) vantagens em utilizar, politica de
> > > preços e opções de financiamento.
> > > 
> > > 17h00 - 17h30 Apresentação do SIC - Sistema Integrado Comercial. A Solução
> > > em frente de caixa e retaguarda com mais de 3.500 cópias comercializadas
> > em
> > > todo o Brasil. Homologado pela Yanco e outros fabricantes de ECF.
> > > 
> > > Inscrições abertas ATÉ 14/09 ÀS 18:00h - VAGAS LIMITADAS
> > > 
> > > Inscreva-se já!  PELO E-MAIL: volnei@netmark.com.br  ou pelo telefone (81)
> > > 339-2277
> > > 
> > > NÃO PERCA A OPORTUNIDADE  DE CONHECER AS NOVIDADES NO MERCADO DE AUTOMAÇÃO
> > > !!
> > > 
> > > Local: Auditório interno Netmark
> > > End. Av. Mascarenhas de Moraes, 4008A - Imbiribeira - Recife/PE
> > > Data: 15 de Setembro (Quarta-feira)
> > > Horário: 14h00 às 17h30
> > > VAGAS LIMITADAS - (confirme sua presença, por e-mail ou fax abaixo)
> > > 
> > > ________________________________________
> > > Volnei Rosa e Silva - Coord. Automação Comercial
> > > volnei@netmark.com.br / site: www.netmark.com.br
> > > Netmark Distribuidora de Informática Ltda.
> > > Telefax: 55 (0xx) 81 339-2277
> > > 
> > 
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From jozeph at globalmedia.com.br  Wed Sep 15 09:10:23 1999
From: jozeph at globalmedia.com.br (Jozenobio de Melo Brasil)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ### Need help ###
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.990915111337.3386A-100000@ns>
References: Pine.LNX.3.96.990915111337.3386A&#45;100000@ns
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.00.9909151309080.29503&#45;100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br

Hi,

        It's OK, but... when i kill the ./services, and restart it
again... it don't Join on the channels... :(
        Please, help...

--
--------------------------------------------------------------------
 \|/ --- \|/   | Jozenóbio de Melo Brasil.
  @~/ Oo \~@   | jozeph@globalmedia.com.br
 /_( \__/ )_\  | http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph
    \__U_/     | " Onde a maioria vive com a bondade,
               |  a maldade da minoria tende sempre a desaparecer! "
--------------------------------------------------------------------
The box said "Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0, or better", so I installed
Linux.

On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, David Narayan wrote:

> You can use something like this in m_register (chanserv.c)
> 
> /* ChanServ joins newly registered channel */
> send_cmd(s_ChanServ, "JOIN %s", chan)
> 
> /* ChanServ ops itself */
> send_cmd(s_ChanServ, "MODE %s +o %s", chan, s_ChanServ) // ChanServ ops
> itself
> 
> Don't forget to add something similar so that ChanServ parts when they
> drop the channel. You may also want to include protection so ChanServ
> doesnt get flooded out or kicked or what not.  In the Undernet ircd
> X and W are set umode +d (deaf).
> 
> In your IRCD you can change this part of m_join in channel.c
> 
>  if (sptr->user->joined >= MAXCHANNELSPERUSER
>   {
>    sendto_one(sptr,err_str(ERR_TOOMANYCHANNELS), me.name, parv[0], name);
>    return 0
>   }
> 
> /* Change to this */
> 
>  if (sptr->user->joined >= MAXCHANNELSPERUSER && !IsAnOper(sptr))
>   {
>    sendto_one(sptr,err_str(ERR_TOOMANYCHANNELS), me.name, parv[0], name);
>    return 0
>   }
> 
> /* This allows opers to be in more then the MAXCHANNELS and since ChanServ
>    is an oper by default it will apply to it as well */
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> -----
> David Narayan
> Server Administrator
> <A  HREF="http://www.chatfamily.com">http://www.chatfamily.com</A>
> 
> On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Jozenobio de Melo Brasil wrote:
> 
> > Ok,
> > 
> >     But a can especify: IsServices (you can join on many channels)...
> >     Can you give me a on_join patch? :)
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Jozeph
> > 
> > --
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> >  \|/ --- \|/   | Jozenóbio de Melo Brasil.
> >   @~/ Oo \~@   | jozeph@globalmedia.com.br
> >  /_( \__/ )_\  | <A  HREF="http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph">http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph</A>
> >     \__U_/     | " Onde a maioria vive com a bondade,
> >                |  a maldade da minoria tende sempre a desaparecer! "
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > The box said "Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0, or better", so I installed
> > Linux.
> > 
> > On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Pinto, Joao Luis (J.) wrote:
> > 
> > > You can put hat on function on_join, however you have to make sure your
> > > icrcd allows a user to join so much channels, because mostr ircd limits
> > > users to join 10 or 20 channels at once.
> > > 
> > > Regards, João Pinto
> > > > App. Dev. & Integration Group - Information Systems Dept.
> > > > Visteon Portugal (Palmela) - An Enterprise of Ford Motor Company
> > > > 
> > > * E-Mail: jpinto9@visteon.com
> > > * Phone: 01-2339323
> > > * Outside Portugal: 351-1-2339323
> > > * FordNet: 8-233-9323
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jozenobio de Melo Brasil [<A  HREF="mailto:jozeph@globalmedia.com.br">mailto:jozeph@globalmedia.com.br</A>]
> > > Sent: quarta-feira, 15 de setembro de 1999 3:10
> > > To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> > > Subject: [IRCServices] ### Need help ###
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I would like to make with that the ChanServ enters in all the registered
> > > channels of the network... similar process to the X/W of the Undernet
> > > 
> > > Anyone can help me?
> > > 
> > > --
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >  \|/ --- \|/   | Jozenóbio de Melo Brasil.
> > >   @~/ Oo \~@   | jozeph@globalmedia.com.br
> > >  /_( \__/ )_\  | <A  HREF="http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph">http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph</A>
> > >     \__U_/     | " Onde a maioria vive com a bondade,
> > >                |  a maldade da minoria tende sempre a desaparecer! "
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > The box said "Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0, or better", so I installed
> > > Linux.
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, CAC wrote:
> > > 
> > > > *****************************************************
> > > > TREINAMENTO METROLOGIC DO BRASIL  -  AUTOMAÇÃO COMERCIAL
> > > > *****************************************************
> > > > 
> > > > Conheça mais sobre os produtos da Metrologic do Brasil para automação
> > > > comercial.
> > > > Teremos também a participação do Sr. Kiyochi Matsuda da Verifone.
> > > > 
> > > > Palestrantes:   Isac Berman   -  Diretor da Metrologic do Brasil
> > > >                       Tharis Nishida -  Metrologic : Gerente Região
> > > Nordeste
> > > > 
> > > >                       Jorge Makoto Shintani - Gerente Comercial do Mini
> > > > Caixa Verifone
> > > > 
> > > > PROGRAMA:
> > > > 
> > > > 14h00 - 14h15 Credenciamento.
> > > > 
> > > > 14h15 - 15h00 Informações sobre a Metrologic do Brasil.
> > > > 
> > > > 15h00 - 16h00 Informações sobre a concorrência e mercado, vantagens em
> > > > trabalhar com a Metrologic do Brasil
> > > > 
> > > > 16h00 - 16h20 Coffee-break
> > > > 
> > > > 16h20 - 17h00 Mini Caixa Verifone - A solução definitiva em TEF
> > > > (Transferência Eletrônica de Fundos) vantagens em utilizar, politica de
> > > > preços e opções de financiamento.
> > > > 
> > > > 17h00 - 17h30 Apresentação do SIC - Sistema Integrado Comercial. A Solução
> > > > em frente de caixa e retaguarda com mais de 3.500 cópias comercializadas
> > > em
> > > > todo o Brasil. Homologado pela Yanco e outros fabricantes de ECF.
> > > > 
> > > > Inscrições abertas ATÉ 14/09 ÀS 18:00h - VAGAS LIMITADAS
> > > > 
> > > > Inscreva-se já!  PELO E-MAIL: volnei@netmark.com.br  ou pelo telefone (81)
> > > > 339-2277
> > > > 
> > > > NÃO PERCA A OPORTUNIDADE  DE CONHECER AS NOVIDADES NO MERCADO DE AUTOMAÇÃO
> > > > !!
> > > > 
> > > > Local: Auditório interno Netmark
> > > > End. Av. Mascarenhas de Moraes, 4008A - Imbiribeira - Recife/PE
> > > > Data: 15 de Setembro (Quarta-feira)
> > > > Horário: 14h00 às 17h30
> > > > VAGAS LIMITADAS - (confirme sua presença, por e-mail ou fax abaixo)
> > > > 
> > > > ________________________________________
> > > > Volnei Rosa e Silva - Coord. Automação Comercial
> > > > volnei@netmark.com.br / site: www.netmark.com.br
> > > > Netmark Distribuidora de Informática Ltda.
> > > > Telefax: 55 (0xx) 81 339-2277
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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From BeenJaminG at aol.com  Wed Sep 15 09:23:51 1999
From: BeenJaminG at aol.com (BeenJaminG@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ### Need help ###
Message-ID: 85a3a203.25112217@aol.com


>  In your IRCD you can change this part of m_join in channel.c
>  
>   if (sptr->user->joined >= MAXCHANNELSPERUSER
>    {
>     sendto_one(sptr,err_str(ERR_TOOMANYCHANNELS), me.name, parv[0], name);
>     return 0
>    }
>  
>  /* Change to this */
>  
>  /* This allows opers to be in more then the MAXCHANNELS and since ChanServ
>     is an oper by default it will apply to it as well */
>  

ChanServ will be able to join as many channels as it wants, regardless of its 
oper status because its on a ULined server. The above modifications shouldn't 
be necessary.

- bstu
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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Wed Sep 15 13:12:07 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ircservices-4.3.1 released
Message-ID: 000001beffb6$96179050$0100a8c0@shadow

This version is a bug fix, fixing the default channel options for new
channels. New channels had no default options in 4.3 due to a coding error.
I view this as a security issue, hence the immediate patch. New channels
will now have the KEEPTOPIC and SECURE options set upon registration.

ftp://ender.shadowfire.org/pub/ircservices/ircservices-4.3.1.tar.gz
<A  HREF="ftp://ender.shadowfire.org/pub/ircservices/ircservices-4.3.1.diff">ftp://ender.shadowfire.org/pub/ircservices/ircservices-4.3.1.diff</A>

Mirror: (should be updated by 7am GMT 16/09/99)
<A  HREF="ftp://ftp.electrocity.com/pub/ircservices/ircservices-4.3.1.tar.gz">ftp://ftp.electrocity.com/pub/ircservices/ircservices-4.3.1.tar.gz</A>
<A  HREF="ftp://ftp.electrocity.com/pub/ircservices/ircservices-4.3.1.diff">ftp://ftp.electrocity.com/pub/ircservices/ircservices-4.3.1.diff</A>

Andrew

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From lmartins at matrix.com.br  Wed Sep 15 14:02:52 1999
From: lmartins at matrix.com.br (Luciano Linhares Martins)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Session Limit and Exceptions
Message-ID: XFMail.990915180252.lmartins@matrix.com.br


        Hello,

        Version ircservices-4.3 

-OperServ- Hosts with atleast 10 sessions:
-OperServ- Sessions  Host
-OperServ-     15    arapuka.digi.com.br
-OperServ-     19    bots.netuno.com.br
-OperServ-     10    piababoy.vircom.com.br
-OperServ-     11    200.243.231.1
-OperServ-     10    200.241.100.20
-OperServ-     17    200.192.24.2
-OperServ-     16    shell.globalshell.com.br

[#natal H% _Oxente_!~after@arapuka.digi.com.br (irc.digi.com.br/3)]
[#santos H% ArrobaSrv!~viper@arapuka.digi.com.br (irc.digi.com.br/3)]
ððð client.trix.net arapuka.digi.com.br End of /WHO list.

-- 2 Clients , but operserv detected 15

[#maceio H% _|Luckas|_!~r0x@piababoy.vircom.com.br (irc.vircom.com.br/3)]
[#IRC-Doidos H% DoidoBot!~eggdrop@piababoy.vircom.com.br
             (irc.vircom.com.br/3)]
[#redebrasil H% RedeBot!~eggdrop@piababoy.vircom.com.br (irc.vircom.com.br/3)]
[#08-12anos H% Latierra!~eggdrop@piababoy.vircom.com.br (irc.vircom.com.br/3)]
[#CasaDoPagode H% Pagodao!~eggdrop@piababoy.vircom.com.br
               (irc.vircom.com.br/3)]
[#irchikabeen H% Slice^!~eggdrop@piababoy.vircom.com.br (irc.vircom.com.br/3)]
[#Delegacia H% POLICIAL!~eggdrop@piababoy.vircom.com.br (irc.vircom.com.br/3)]
[#Amor H% _CuPiDo_!~eggdrop@piababoy.vircom.com.br (irc.vircom.com.br/3)]

-- 8 Clients, but operserv detected 10


        Any solution ?

---

                    Luciano Linhares Martins   
                 http://www.matrix.com.br/lmartins
                 Date: 15-Sep-99  Time: 17:17:17
                   XKiller @ BrasIRC Network

Lazlo's Chinese Relativity Axiom:
        No matter how great your triumphs or how tragic your defeats --
approximately one billion Chinese couldn't care less.

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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Wed Sep 15 14:24:18 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] sizes of networks using IRC Services
Message-ID: 000301beffc0$ab342e80$0100a8c0@shadow

How many people are running services on networks with more than 1000 users?
Please reply to this mail, or to me privately if you wish. I'd like to
discuss a few things with you.

Thanks, Andrew

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From tower at oit.pdx.edu  Wed Sep 15 16:13:49 1999
From: tower at oit.pdx.edu (Tyson La Tourrette)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ping timeouts..
In-Reply-To: <37dbb2f1.11172@dragonfire.net>
References: 37dbb2f1.11172@dragonfire.net
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.4.10.9909151612010.19733&#45;100000@medusa.oit.pdx.edu

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999, Andrew Church wrote:

> >Solaris 2.7 for x86 using gcc 2.95 and gmake 3.77
> 
>      Is anyone else using this setup?  I'm inclined to blame the OS and/or
> libc since I can't reproduce the problems on my Linux box.

Well, I switched to gcc 2.8.1, reinstalled df467 and services 4.3. Things seem to be working...

Thanks for everyone's help.

tyson

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From johnie at netgod.net  Wed Sep 15 16:09:52 1999
From: johnie at netgod.net (Johnie Ingram)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] sizes of networks using IRC Services 
In-Reply-To: Message from "Andrew Kempe" <andrewk@icon.co.za>   of "Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:24:18 +0200." <000301beffc0$ab342e80$0100a8c0@shadow> 
References: 000301beffc0$ab342e80$0100a8c0@shadow
Message-ID: 199909152309.TAA10862@netgod.net


"Andrew" == Andrew Kempe <andrewk@icon.co.za> writes:

Andrew> How many people are running services on networks with more
Andrew> than 1000 users?  Please reply to this mail, or to me

We have 1,254 registered users, 500 connected.

                netgod



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From BeenJaminG at aol.com  Wed Sep 15 16:56:40 1999
From: BeenJaminG at aol.com (BeenJaminG@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] JOIN parsing
Message-ID: abe7142f.25118c38@aol.com

I was wondering about the join parsing.. services doesn't seem to take JOIN 0 
correctly, which should make you part all channels. If you join a channel 
then join 0 and rejoin, Chanserv doesn't reset the modes/topic/etc because it 
never saw you as leaving.. _i assume_. Does anyone have any insight on this?

- bstu
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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Wed Sep 15 22:47:33 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] sizes of networks using IRC Services
In-Reply-To: <XFMail.990915231043.lmartins@matrix.com.br>
References: XFMail.990915231043.lmartins@matrix.com.br
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.3.96.990916073957.19051A&#45;100000@shell.icon.co.za

> 
>         There are problems with NSForceNickChange, it cause many collisions.
> 
> [SN] Nick change collision from junior to BrasIRC26348 (BrasIRC26348 937446348
>      <- irc.trix.net[0.0.0.0] 937446348)
> 
>         In the future, will be services work with bahamut ircd ?

I'm aware of the problem with the Guest nicks - I need, or someone needs
to, come up with a better algorithm for generating the numbers on the end
of the guest nick without the number becomming incredibly long. Until
then, this feature should be considered experimental.

I hope to have a Bahamut compatible version by the end of the year and
once v2 (maybe even v3) of Bahamut is released.

Andrew

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From jpinto9 at visteon.com  Thu Sep 16 00:47:04 1999
From: jpinto9 at visteon.com (Pinto, Joao Luis (J.))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] sizes of networks using IRC Services
Message-ID: 199909160747.DAA02233@mailfw1.ford.com

I usually have a maximum of 100 users simultaneosly online,
this is a little statistical cuntions I  implemented on my services:
/NickServ stats

-NickServ(services@services.PTlink.net)- Statistics for today:
-NickServ(services@services.PTlink.net)- Total: 1516
-NickServ(services@services.PTlink.net)- Registered: 11
-NickServ(services@services.PTlink.net)- Expired: 0
-NickServ(services@services.PTlink.net)- Dropped: 9 

João Luís Marques Pinto
PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
http://www.PTlink.net  


-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Kempe [<A  HREF="mailto:andrewk@icon.co.za">mailto:andrewk@icon.co.za</A>]
Sent: quarta-feira, 15 de setembro de 1999 22:24
To: IRCServices
Subject: [IRCServices] sizes of networks using IRC Services


How many people are running services on networks with more than 1000 users?
Please reply to this mail, or to me privately if you wish. I'd like to
discuss a few things with you.

Thanks, Andrew

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From jpinto9 at visteon.com  Thu Sep 16 00:42:41 1999
From: jpinto9 at visteon.com (Pinto, Joao Luis (J.))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] JOIN parsing
Message-ID: 199909160837.KAA14480@Ender.gp.school.za

You just need to patch the join code to handle the "0" arguments, and call
the PART code for that client on all channels he is in.

João Luís Marques Pinto
PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
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From: BeenJaminG@aol.com [<A  HREF="mailto:BeenJaminG@aol.com">mailto:BeenJaminG@aol.com</A>]
Sent: quinta-feira, 16 de setembro de 1999 0:57
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: [IRCServices] JOIN parsing


I was wondering about the join parsing.. services doesn't seem to take JOIN
0 
correctly, which should make you part all channels. If you join a channel 
then join 0 and rejoin, Chanserv doesn't reset the modes/topic/etc because
it 
never saw you as leaving.. _i assume_. Does anyone have any insight on this?

- bstu
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From mauritz at americasnet.com.br  Thu Sep 16 05:28:36 1999
From: mauritz at americasnet.com.br (Mauritz Antunes)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] sizes of networks using IRC Services
In-Reply-To: <000301beffc0$ab342e80$0100a8c0@shadow>
References: 000301beffc0$ab342e80$0100a8c0@shadow
Message-ID: 4.1.19990916092351.062a3860@mail.americasnet.com.br

Hi,

Here "/operserv stats all" of BRASnet:

-OperServ- Current users: 1213 (11 ops)
-OperServ- Maximum users: 12781 (Aug 22 22:16:14 1999 EST)
-OperServ- Services up 23 hours, 42 minutes
-OperServ- User    :   1213 records,   249 kB
-OperServ- Channel :    740 records,   299 kB
-OperServ- NickServ: 131650 records, 28892 kB
-OperServ- ChanServ:  17922 records,  8192 kB
-OperServ- OperServ:    234 records,    33 kB

Runing with 4.1.4 version.

[]'s
Mauritz.

At 18:24 15/09/99 , you wrote:
>How many people are running services on networks with more than 1000 users?
>Please reply to this mail, or to me privately if you wish. I'd like to
>discuss a few things with you.
>
>Thanks, Andrew

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From achurch at dragonfire.net  Thu Sep 16 21:42:49 1999
From: achurch at dragonfire.net (Andrew Church)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] JOIN parsing
Message-ID: 37e0e5df.00225@dragonfire.net

>I was wondering about the join parsing.. services doesn't seem to take JOIN 0 
>correctly, which should make you part all channels. If you join a channel 
>then join 0 and rejoin, Chanserv doesn't reset the modes/topic/etc because it 
>never saw you as leaving.. _i assume_. Does anyone have any insight on this?

     That would probably be the reason.  I thought I had coded in JOIN 0
support at some point, but I guess not.

  --Andrew Church
    achurch@dragonfire.net
    http://achurch.dragonfire.net/
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From simon at online.com.hk  Sat Sep 18 12:11:49 1999
From: simon at online.com.hk (Simons)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Edit the db directly?
References: <000001beffb6$96179050$0100a8c0@shadow>
Message-ID: 000f01bf0209$eb0fb6a0$fec9120a@netvigator.com

Hi all,

Is it possible to edit the chan.db and nick.db by the text editor directly?
It is because I got the corrupted database, but it seem I found out which
entrys make
the services seg. fault.

Thank you.



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From BeenJaminG at aol.com  Sat Sep 18 13:42:08 1999
From: BeenJaminG at aol.com (BeenJaminG@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Edit the db directly?
Message-ID: 6c656991.25155320@aol.com

In a message dated 9/18/99 3:35:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
simon@online.com.hk writes:

> Hi all,
>  
>  Is it possible to edit the chan.db and nick.db by the text editor directly?
>  It is because I got the corrupted database, but it seem I found out which
>  entrys make
>  the services seg. fault.
>  
>  Thank you.
>  
It won't be possible to edit the databases with a text editor, they are 
binary-mode files.  Why not try dropping the problem nick/channels as a 
temporary measure? Sometimes this will get rid of a corrupted entry.

- bstu
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From jozeph at globalmedia.com.br  Sat Sep 18 14:44:29 1999
From: jozeph at globalmedia.com.br (Jozenobio de Melo Brasil)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Signal 11.
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.00.9909181843390.9187&#45;100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br

Hello,

        Can help me about Services terminating on signal 11 ?
        I need help... :)

Greats,
Jozeph


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From tower at oit.pdx.edu  Sat Sep 18 15:25:14 1999
From: tower at oit.pdx.edu (Tyson La Tourrette)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Signal 11.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.00.9909181843390.9187-100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br>
References: Pine.LNX.4.00.9909181843390.9187&#45;100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.4.10.9909181523040.19733&#45;100000@medusa.oit.pdx.edu

Here is the signal table (at least on my box).

     The signals currently defined by  <signal.h> are as follows:
     Name             Value   Default    Event
     SIGHUP           1       Exit       Hangup (see termio(7I))
     SIGINT           2       Exit       Interrupt (see termio(7I))
     SIGQUIT          3       Core       Quit (see termio(7I))
     SIGILL           4       Core       Illegal Instruction
     SIGTRAP          5       Core       Trace or Breakpoint Trap
     SIGABRT          6       Core       Abort
     SIGEMT           7       Core       Emulation Trap
     SIGFPE           8       Core       Arithmetic Exception
     SIGKILL          9       Exit       Killed
     SIGBUS           10      Core       Bus Error
     SIGSEGV          11      Core       Segmentation Fault
     SIGSYS           12      Core       Bad System Call
     SIGPIPE          13      Exit       Broken Pipe
     SIGALRM          14      Exit       Alarm Clock
     SIGTERM          15      Exit       Terminated
     SIGUSR1          16      Exit       User Signal 1
     SIGUSR2          17      Exit       User Signal 2
     SIGCHLD          18      Ignore     Child Status Changed
     SIGPWR           19      Ignore     Power Fail or Restart
     SIGWINCH         20      Ignore     Window Size Change
     SIGURG           21      Ignore     Urgent Socket Condition
     SIGPOLL          22      Exit       Pollable Event (see streamio(7I))
     SIGSTOP          23      Stop       Stopped (signal)
     SIGTSTP          24      Stop       Stopped (user) (see termio(7I))
     SIGCONT          25      Ignore     Continued
     SIGTTIN          26      Stop       Stopped (tty input) (see termio(7I))
     SIGTTOU          27      Stop       Stopped (tty output) (see termio(7I))
     SIGVTALRM        28      Exit       Virtual Timer Expired
     SIGPROF          29      Exit       Profiling Timer Expired
     SIGXCPU          30      Core       CPU   time   limit   exceeded    (see
                                         getrlimit(2))
     SIGXFSZ          31      Core       File   size   limit   exceeded   (see
                                         getrlimit(2))
     SIGWAITING       32      Ignore     Concurrency   signal   reserved    by
                                         threads library
     SIGLWP           33      Ignore     Inter-LWP signal reserved by  threads
                                         library
     SIGFREEZE        34      Ignore     Check point Freeze
     SIGTHAW          35      Ignore     Check point Thaw

So signal 11 is a seg fault. Hmmm, you could examine the core dump. What is happening when services crash?


en Sat, 18 Sep 1999, Jozenobio de Melo Brasil wrote:

> Hello,
> 
>       Can help me about Services terminating on signal 11 ?
>       I need help... :)
> 
> Greats,
> Jozeph
> 
> 
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> The box said "Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0, or better", so I installed
> Linux.
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From simon at online.com.hk  Sat Sep 18 20:07:20 1999
From: simon at online.com.hk (Simons)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Edit the db directly?
References: <6c656991.25155320@aol.com>
Message-ID: 001401bf024c$1af38440$fec9120a@netvigator.com


----- Original Message -----
±H¥óªÌ: <BeenJaminG@aol.com>
¦¬¥óªÌ: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
¶Ç°e¤é´Á: 1999¦~9¤ë19¤é AM 04:42
¥D¦®: Re: [IRCServices] Edit the db directly?


> In a message dated 9/18/99 3:35:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> simon@online.com.hk writes:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> >  Is it possible to edit the chan.db and nick.db by the text editor
directly?
> >  It is because I got the corrupted database, but it seem I found out
which
> >  entrys make
> >  the services seg. fault.
> >
> >  Thank you.
> >
> It won't be possible to edit the databases with a text editor, they are
> binary-mode files.  Why not try dropping the problem nick/channels as a
> temporary measure? Sometimes this will get rid of a corrupted entry.
>
> - bstu

I had tried to drop the problem nicks/channels, after dropped,
I make the '/operserv update' and then the services seg. fault too.
That's why I wanna edit the db directly.

Simons

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From listuser at bundynet.de  Sun Sep 19 05:57:30 1999
From: listuser at bundynet.de (Stefan Funke)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] "channel doesn't exist"
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.10.9909191446390.7389&#45;100000@dragon.bundynet.lan

Hi there!

I've sent Chanserv into "#services" (cmode +ntli). Chanserv is the only
one in there...

> ChanServ is services@bundynet.lan
> on channels: #services

Problem is, that I can't join #services or change modes on it:

> (chanserv)] invite #services
> -ChanServ- Channel #services doesn't exist.
> (operserv)] mode #services -li
> -OperServ- Channel #services doesn't exist.

I don't know why it happens - everything else works fine. I'm using
" services 4.2.3 -- build #1, compiled Apr 24 1999 13:15:40".

Greetings,
Stefan Funke

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From achurch at dragonfire.net  Sun Sep 19 23:32:57 1999
From: achurch at dragonfire.net (Andrew Church)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] "channel doesn't exist"
Message-ID: 37e4f4ef.00321@dragonfire.net

>Hi there!
>
>I've sent Chanserv into "#services" (cmode +ntli). Chanserv is the only
>one in there...
>
>> ChanServ is services@bundynet.lan
>> on channels: #services
>
>Problem is, that I can't join #services or change modes on it:
>
>> (chanserv)] invite #services
>> -ChanServ- Channel #services doesn't exist.

     Did you use the RAW command?  If so, read the documentation on the
RAW command.  Then read it again.  Notice the part that says "This
command... can wreak havoc on a network if used improperly"?  There's
your answer.

     Put another way, Services does absolutely no interpretation of RAW
commands (nor is there any reason it should), so it has no way of
knowing you sent ChanServ into a channel.

  --Andrew Church
    achurch@dragonfire.net
    http://achurch.dragonfire.net/
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From dreamer at darkness.gr  Sun Sep 19 08:55:43 1999
From: dreamer at darkness.gr (Nick Krassas)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] "channel doesn't exist"
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9909191446390.7389-100000@dragon.bundynet.lan>
References: Pine.LNX.4.10.9909191446390.7389&#45;100000@dragon.bundynet.lan
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.10.9909191846240.16535&#45;100000@darkness.darkness.gr

Greetings all,
        Fist of all, the channel #Services it might be closed, non
existent, or as you mentioned invited only. If the channel doesn't exist
then just /join #Services, if the channel is invited only and you have
access to this channel as chanserv to invite you (/msg chanserv invite
#Services). If nothing of the above try then to force chanserv to leave
the channel by /msg operserv raw :Chanserv Part #Services.



Dinos
Admin @darkness.irc.gr
----------------------
On Sun, 19 Sep 1999, Stefan Funke wrote:

> Hi there!
> 
> I've sent Chanserv into "#services" (cmode +ntli). Chanserv is the only
> one in there...
> 
> > ChanServ is services@bundynet.lan
> > on channels: #services
> 
> Problem is, that I can't join #services or change modes on it:
> 
> > (chanserv)] invite #services
> > -ChanServ- Channel #services doesn't exist.
> > (operserv)] mode #services -li
> > -OperServ- Channel #services doesn't exist.
> 
> I don't know why it happens - everything else works fine. I'm using
> " services 4.2.3 -- build #1, compiled Apr 24 1999 13:15:40".
> 
> Greetings,
> Stefan Funke
> 
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From daredevil at cia.com.br  Sun Sep 19 07:58:17 1999
From: daredevil at cia.com.br (Evandro Batschauer)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] sizes of networks using IRC Services
In-Reply-To: <000301beffc0$ab342e80$0100a8c0@shadow>
References: 000301beffc0$ab342e80$0100a8c0@shadow
Message-ID: 3.0.3.32.19990919115817.006867a8@mail.cia.com.br

hello,

RedeSul IRC, Brazil:

::: [msg(operserv)] stats all
-OperServ- Current users: 723 (7 ops)
-OperServ- Maximum users: 1531 (Sep 12 21:47:04 1999 EST)
-OperServ- Services up 1 day, 11:37
-OperServ- User    :    723 records,   132 kB
-OperServ- Channel :    169 records,    71 kB
-OperServ- NickServ:  10454 records,  3715 kB
-OperServ- ChanServ:   1182 records,   516 kB
-OperServ- OperServ:     80 records,     8 kB

Runing with 4.2.4 version.

Regardz,

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From daredevil at cia.com.br  Sun Sep 19 09:14:43 1999
From: daredevil at cia.com.br (Evandro Batschauer)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] sizes of networks using IRC Services
In-Reply-To: <000301beffc0$ab342e80$0100a8c0@shadow>
References: 000301beffc0$ab342e80$0100a8c0@shadow
Message-ID: 3.0.3.32.19990919131443.0068a154@mail.cia.com.br

hello,

RedeSul IRC, Brazil:

::: [msg(operserv)] stats all
-OperServ- Current users: 723 (7 ops)
-OperServ- Maximum users: 1531 (Sep 12 21:47:04 1999 EST)
-OperServ- Services up 1 day, 11:37
-OperServ- User    :    723 records,   132 kB
-OperServ- Channel :    169 records,    71 kB
-OperServ- NickServ:  10454 records,  3715 kB
-OperServ- ChanServ:   1182 records,   516 kB
-OperServ- OperServ:     80 records,     8 kB

Runing with 4.2.4 version.

Regardz,

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From listuser at bundynet.de  Sun Sep 19 11:13:54 1999
From: listuser at bundynet.de (Stefan Funke)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] "channel doesn't exist"
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9909191846240.16535-100000@darkness.darkness.gr>
References: Pine.LNX.4.10.9909191846240.16535&#45;100000@darkness.darkness.gr
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.10.9909192005380.9888&#45;100000@dragon.bundynet.lan

On Sun, 19 Sep 1999, Nick Krassas wrote:

> Greetings all,
>       Fist of all, the channel #Services it might be closed, non
> existent, or as you mentioned invited only. If the channel doesn't exist
> then just /join #Services, if the channel is invited only and you have
> access to this channel as chanserv to invite you (/msg chanserv invite
> #Services). If nothing of the above try then to force chanserv to leave
> the channel by /msg operserv raw :Chanserv Part #Services.

[X] Wer lesen kann ist klar im Vorteil :

> > > (chanserv)] invite #services
> > > -ChanServ- Channel #services doesn't exist.

and I don't want Chanserv to get out there - just wanted to know what that
'#services doesn't exist' means.

anyway... thanks :o)
Stefan Funke

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From jpinto9 at visteon.com  Mon Sep 20 01:56:31 1999
From: jpinto9 at visteon.com (Pinto, Joao Luis (J.))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] "channel doesn't exist"
Message-ID: 199909200856.EAA24567@mailfw1.ford.com

I think this is a little hard reply Andy at least when there is a reasonable
number of people trying to make service clients join channels. 
The explanation o the "channels doesn't exist follow":
Services just create the channel in is internal channel list when they get
the first JOIN message to that channel from the server they are connected
to, if you have a empty channel and you issue "/OperServ RAW :ChanServ JOIN
#Chan", the services will send a JOIN message to the server saying Chanserv
joined #Chan, however they will not create locally the channel (because like
I saide before they just create when they receive a JOIN message, not when
they receive), when you make the /ChanServ invite #chan, services will
search for that channel on their internal channel list, result: Channel
doesnt exist.

Easly Speaking: Services didn't saw anyone entering the channel so channel
does not exist. :)

Regards, João Pinto
> App. Dev. & Integration Group - Information Systems Dept.
> Visteon Portugal (Palmela) - An Enterprise of Ford Motor Company
> 
*       E-Mail: jpinto9@visteon.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: achurch@dragonfire.net [mailto:achurch@dragonfire.net]
Sent: domingo, 19 de setembro de 1999 15:33
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] "channel doesn't exist"


>Hi there!
>
>I've sent Chanserv into "#services" (cmode +ntli). Chanserv is the only
>one in there...
>
>> ChanServ is services@bundynet.lan
>> on channels: #services
>
>Problem is, that I can't join #services or change modes on it:
>
>> (chanserv)] invite #services
>> -ChanServ- Channel #services doesn't exist.

     Did you use the RAW command?  If so, read the documentation on the
RAW command.  Then read it again.  Notice the part that says "This
command... can wreak havoc on a network if used improperly"?  There's
your answer.

     Put another way, Services does absolutely no interpretation of RAW
commands (nor is there any reason it should), so it has no way of
knowing you sent ChanServ into a channel.

  --Andrew Church
    achurch@dragonfire.net
    <A  HREF="http://achurch.dragonfire.net/">http://achurch.dragonfire.net/</A>
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From norteirc at intermx.net  Mon Sep 20 05:21:13 1999
From: norteirc at intermx.net (norteirc@intermx.net)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Hi guys!
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.10.9909200814580.32354&#45;100000@ns.intermx.net


I have editing the source of services....because it doesnt connect to
ircu2.10.X....there was missing parameters
Now it is connected =D
Also making some changes.....every bot has now is unique Hostname
If anyone needs help with ircu.....please contact me at 
/server norte.intermx.net  or just email me =D
**ENTRA** NiCK (*!^-^@NiCK.Redlatina.Org)
**ENTRA** ChanServ (*!^-^@ChanServ.Redlatina.Org)
**ENTRA** HeLp (*!^-^@HeLp.Redlatina.Org)
**ENTRA** IrcHelp (*!^-^@IrcHelp.Redlatina.Org)
**ENTRA** MeMo (*!^-^@MeMo.Redlatina.Org)
**ENTRA** OpEr (*!^-^@OpEr.Redlatina.Org)
**ENTRA** Axelita (*!^-^@Axelita.Redlatina.Org)
**ENTRA** NoTiCiAs (*!^-^@NoTiCiAs.Redlatina.Org)
=D
                        BaRt-MaN

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From dreamer at darkness.gr  Mon Sep 20 05:51:55 1999
From: dreamer at darkness.gr (Nick Krassas)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Restarting...
In-Reply-To: <199909200856.EAA24567@mailfw1.ford.com>
References: 199909200856.EAA24567@mailfw1.ford.com
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.10.9909201529170.299&#45;100000@darkness.darkness.gr

Greetings all,
        I've notice something during some tests on the services 4.3pre0,
that is not fixed yet, and is reported at the KnownBugs file.
The problem take place when an admin tries to restast the services for
second time. The services just ingore the restart command, and do nothing. 
This feature is reported untill now only at linux systems, ( i don't know
if this problem exist in other platforms) and is due to the signal
manipulation at main.c. 

line 43 : static jmp_buf panic_jmp; 
line 54 : signal(SIGHUP, SIG_INT); // the signal is ignored from now on
line 58 : longjmp(panic_jmp, 1);

The longjmp function should be changed to siglongjmp() and jmp_buf to
sigjmp_buf.


Dinos 

Admin @darkness.irc.gr
http://www.irc.gr 

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From scotts at qx.net  Mon Sep 20 06:53:09 1999
From: scotts at qx.net (Scott Seufert)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Restarting...
Message-ID: 001d01bf036f$7ceb45b0$0959ebd0@orion.qx.net

I would like to state that during the time I was running 4.3pre0 I had so
such problem with restart nor any other command I also run Linux, RedHat5.2
to be exact.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Krassas <dreamer@darkness.gr>
To: 'ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org' <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Date: Monday, September 20, 1999 9:42 AM
Subject: [IRCServices] Restarting...


>Greetings all,
> I've notice something during some tests on the services 4.3pre0,
>that is not fixed yet, and is reported at the KnownBugs file.
>The problem take place when an admin tries to restast the services for
>second time. The services just ingore the restart command, and do nothing.
>This feature is reported untill now only at linux systems, ( i don't know
>if this problem exist in other platforms) and is due to the signal
>manipulation at main.c.
>
>line 43 : static jmp_buf panic_jmp;
>line 54 : signal(SIGHUP, SIG_INT); // the signal is ignored from now on
>line 58 : longjmp(panic_jmp, 1);
>
>The longjmp function should be changed to siglongjmp() and jmp_buf to
>sigjmp_buf.
>
>
>Dinos
>
>Admin @darkness.irc.gr
>http://www.irc.gr


Scott Seufert
aka katsklaw@irc
Network Admin
FlameBait.Org

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From cknipe at savage.za.org  Mon Sep 20 09:42:13 1999
From: cknipe at savage.za.org (Chris Knipe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] IRCD / Services Monitoring Scripts
In-Reply-To: <001d01bf036f$7ceb45b0$0959ebd0@orion.qx.net>
References: 001d01bf036f$7ceb45b0$0959ebd0@orion.qx.net
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.10.9909201840230.19683&#45;100000@savage.za.org

Hi

A while ago I posted some of my perl scripts here to monitor various
aspects of the IRCD + Services Use.

Unfortunately I am recovering from a HDD crash at the moment, and I was
just wondering wheter there is anyone here (maybe even a archive) or the
email which had those scripts attached.

If anyone still have the scripts / email, would you please be so kind to
email them to me ? (you can send em private, i dont think theres a need
for them to go through the mailing list again, i must admit, it was a bit
bigish).

Regards
Chris Knipe
Cel: (083) 430 8151
Freelance Internet Developer / Consultant
Certified: A+ / MCSE / MCT


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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Mon Sep 20 13:56:15 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Restarting...
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9909201529170.299-100000@darkness.darkness.gr>
References: Pine.LNX.4.10.9909201529170.299&#45;100000@darkness.darkness.gr
Message-ID: 000201bf03aa$940e6c00$0100a8c0@shadow

This has been a problem for ages. I've never looked into it but it's now on
the todo list.

A small side note, version pre0 has MANY problems, especially when it comes
to missing config options. It's highly recommened that anyone using the
4.3pre releases move to version 4.3.1 - which is pretty much stable. 4.2.4
was the last, and current -STABLE release. That's IMHO anyway :)

Later, Andrew

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of Nick Krassas
> Sent: 20 September 1999 14:52
> To: 'ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org'
> Subject: [IRCServices] Restarting...
>
>
> Greetings all,
>       I've notice something during some tests on the services 4.3pre0,
> that is not fixed yet, and is reported at the KnownBugs file.
> The problem take place when an admin tries to restast the services for
> second time. The services just ingore the restart command, and do
> nothing.
> This feature is reported untill now only at linux systems, ( i don't know
> if this problem exist in other platforms) and is due to the signal
> manipulation at main.c.
>
> line 43 : static jmp_buf panic_jmp;
> line 54 : signal(SIGHUP, SIG_INT); // the signal is ignored from now on
> line 58 : longjmp(panic_jmp, 1);
>
> The longjmp function should be changed to siglongjmp() and jmp_buf to
> sigjmp_buf.
>
>
> Dinos
>
> Admin @darkness.irc.gr
> <A  HREF="http://www.irc.gr">http://www.irc.gr</A>
>
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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Mon Sep 20 14:01:16 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] IRCD / Services Monitoring Scripts
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9909201840230.19683-100000@savage.za.org>
References: Pine.LNX.4.10.9909201840230.19683&#45;100000@savage.za.org
Message-ID: 000301bf03ab$47764f10$0100a8c0@shadow

I don't have them, but I do have a side note - for those who have not read
the README lately...

This mailing list is archived at:

        http://ender.shadowfire.org/ircservices/listarchive/

Thanks, Andrew

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> [<A  HREF="mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On">mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On</A> Behalf Of Chris Knipe
> Sent: 20 September 1999 18:42
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: [IRCServices] IRCD / Services Monitoring Scripts
>
>
> Hi
>
> A while ago I posted some of my perl scripts here to monitor various
> aspects of the IRCD + Services Use.
>
> Unfortunately I am recovering from a HDD crash at the moment, and I was
> just wondering wheter there is anyone here (maybe even a archive) or the
> email which had those scripts attached.
>
> If anyone still have the scripts / email, would you please be so kind to
> email them to me ? (you can send em private, i dont think theres a need
> for them to go through the mailing list again, i must admit, it was a bit
> bigish).
>
> Regards
> Chris Knipe
> Cel: (083) 430 8151
> Freelance Internet Developer / Consultant
> Certified: A+ / MCSE / MCT
>
>
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From dreamer at darkness.gr  Tue Sep 21 05:21:20 1999
From: dreamer at darkness.gr (Nick Krassas)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Restarting...
In-Reply-To: <000201bf03aa$940e6c00$0100a8c0@shadow>
References: 000201bf03aa$940e6c00$0100a8c0@shadow
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.10.9909211520470.19279&#45;100000@darkness.darkness.gr

I can send the fix that i've available if someone needs it. 



Dinos


On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, Andrew Kempe wrote:

> This has been a problem for ages. I've never looked into it but it's now on
> the todo list.
> 
> A small side note, version pre0 has MANY problems, especially when it comes
> to missing config options. It's highly recommened that anyone using the
> 4.3pre releases move to version 4.3.1 - which is pretty much stable. 4.2.4
> was the last, and current -STABLE release. That's IMHO anyway :)
> 
> Later, Andrew
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> > [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of Nick Krassas
> > Sent: 20 September 1999 14:52
> > To: 'ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org'
> > Subject: [IRCServices] Restarting...
> >
> >
> > Greetings all,
> >     I've notice something during some tests on the services 4.3pre0,
> > that is not fixed yet, and is reported at the KnownBugs file.
> > The problem take place when an admin tries to restast the services for
> > second time. The services just ingore the restart command, and do
> > nothing.
> > This feature is reported untill now only at linux systems, ( i don't know
> > if this problem exist in other platforms) and is due to the signal
> > manipulation at main.c.
> >
> > line 43 : static jmp_buf panic_jmp;
> > line 54 : signal(SIGHUP, SIG_INT); // the signal is ignored from now on
> > line 58 : longjmp(panic_jmp, 1);
> >
> > The longjmp function should be changed to siglongjmp() and jmp_buf to
> > sigjmp_buf.
> >
> >
> > Dinos
> >
> > Admin @darkness.irc.gr
> > <A  HREF="http://www.irc.gr">http://www.irc.gr</A>
> >
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From jozeph at globalmedia.com.br  Tue Sep 21 06:16:47 1999
From: jozeph at globalmedia.com.br (Jozenobio de Melo Brasil)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] listnicks | listchans
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.00.9909211010150.11088&#45;100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br

Hi,

        Somebody could help me to solve plus this problem?
        It's ok, go:

        When I try to list nicks registered in db, excellent, see:

    |MaTuTo|              ZeRo@200.203.232.197
    |Professor|           ~TRUCO@200.203.232.205
    |TWiSTER|             ~jozeph@200.249.248.152
1138 nicknames registered.

        But, When I try to list chans registered in db, see:

#bahia                Bahia (HELIO_AL)
#banheiro             necessidades ... (Milinha)
#barbacena            Barbacena MG tem que ter aqui tamb\82m !! (KruSH)
#barretos             canal mais barretense de todos (RaFaQ)
#basic                O canal de programa\87ão da linguagem basic nesse server (Ulyboy)
Segmentation fault (core dumped)

        Why it's giving this error? It's list only the 13 first
channels... and later, core!
        Please, help me to solve it! :)

Greats,
Jozeph

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  @~/ Oo \~@   | jozeph@globalmedia.com.br
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    \__U_/     | " Onde a maioria vive com a bondade,
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From jozeph at globalmedia.com.br  Tue Sep 21 18:26:45 1999
From: jozeph at globalmedia.com.br (Jozenobio de Melo Brasil)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ### bugs ###
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.00.9909212214550.5333&#45;100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br

Hi all..

I would like to display two small bugs that I found in the services...

first:

When I add one akill without placing no value in [expire] look at as it
adds:

Global -- from OperServ: |TWiSTER| added an AKILL for teste@teste.com.br
(expires in 2592000 (null)s)

What I make to delimit that; when somebody adds one akill and when it does
not place no value in [expire] this limit is placed by default in the period
of 1 day?

Next:

Look:

- teste@teste.com.br (by |TWiSTER| on Sep 21 1999; expires in 1 hour, 0 minutes)
-     teste
- teste@teste.com.br (by |TWiSTER| on Sep 21 1999; expires in 30 days)
-     teste

akill del teste@teste.com.br
- teste@teste.com.br removed from AKILL list. 
akill del teste@teste.com.br
- teste@teste.com.br removed from AKILL list. 

Why the services are not informing that already one exists host in the
database of it?

Please, somebody could, if possible, to send me one 'patch' of this
small bugs?

Congratulations for all! :) Thank you.
Jozeph

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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Tue Sep 21 23:18:19 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ### bugs ###
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.00.9909212214550.5333-100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br>
References: Pine.LNX.4.00.9909212214550.5333&#45;100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.3.96.990922080754.19186A&#45;100000@shell.icon.co.za

> When I add one akill without placing no value in [expire] look at as it
> adds:
> 
> Global -- from OperServ: |TWiSTER| added an AKILL for teste@teste.com.br
> (expires in 2592000 (null)s)

I'll look into this. Please send me the exact command you used.

> 
> What I make to delimit that; when somebody adds one akill and when it does
> not place no value in [expire] this limit is placed by default in the period
> of 1 day?

If you do not specify an expiry time, the default one, specified in the
config, is used. If your default was not 1 day, please send me the exact
command you used and I'll look into it.

> - teste@teste.com.br (by |TWiSTER| on Sep 21 1999; expires in 1 hour, 0 minutes)
> -     teste
> - teste@teste.com.br (by |TWiSTER| on Sep 21 1999; expires in 30 days)
> -     teste
> 
> akill del teste@teste.com.br
> - teste@teste.com.br removed from AKILL list. 
> akill del teste@teste.com.br
> - teste@teste.com.br removed from AKILL list. 
> 
> Why the services are not informing that already one exists host in the
> database of it?

Duplicates are not checked for. I'll look at fixing this too.

> Please, somebody could, if possible, to send me one 'patch' of this
> small bugs?

Currently I'm extremely busy with my upcomming exams. Things should be
better, time wise, by the middle of October. Seeing as these problems do
not affect users or crash the ircd, they'll have to wait until then.

Thanks for the input, Andrew

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From jpinto9 at visteon.com  Wed Sep 22 00:27:40 1999
From: jpinto9 at visteon.com (Pinto, Joao Luis (J.))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ### bugs ###
Message-ID: 199909220727.DAA23142@mailfw1.ford.com

I already patchefthe(null's) problema on my services
is just when you insert a /OperServ AKILL without expire time
services will user default expire time from configuration file
Hwever when they display the expire time in the ('hour'/'day'/'month')
format, the codes does not handle this string for default time so it just
will display i'ts value: Null
The easiest solution is just to check is the string is null and if True just
put it = seconds :)

Regards, João Pinto
> App. Dev. & Integration Group - Information Systems Dept.
> Visteon Portugal (Palmela) - An Enterprise of Ford Motor Company
> 
*       E-Mail: jpinto9@visteon.com
*       Phone: 01-2339323
*       Outside Portugal: 351-1-2339323
*       FordNet: 8-233-9323



-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Kempe [mailto:andrewk@icon.co.za]
Sent: quarta-feira, 22 de setembro de 1999 7:18
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] ### bugs ###


> When I add one akill without placing no value in [expire] look at as it
> adds:
> 
> Global -- from OperServ: |TWiSTER| added an AKILL for teste@teste.com.br
> (expires in 2592000 (null)s)

I'll look into this. Please send me the exact command you used.

> 
> What I make to delimit that; when somebody adds one akill and when it does
> not place no value in [expire] this limit is placed by default in the
period
> of 1 day?

If you do not specify an expiry time, the default one, specified in the
config, is used. If your default was not 1 day, please send me the exact
command you used and I'll look into it.

> - teste@teste.com.br (by |TWiSTER| on Sep 21 1999; expires in 1 hour, 0
minutes)
> -     teste
> - teste@teste.com.br (by |TWiSTER| on Sep 21 1999; expires in 30 days)
> -     teste
> 
> akill del teste@teste.com.br
> - teste@teste.com.br removed from AKILL list. 
> akill del teste@teste.com.br
> - teste@teste.com.br removed from AKILL list. 
> 
> Why the services are not informing that already one exists host in the
> database of it?

Duplicates are not checked for. I'll look at fixing this too.

> Please, somebody could, if possible, to send me one 'patch' of this
> small bugs?

Currently I'm extremely busy with my upcomming exams. Things should be
better, time wise, by the middle of October. Seeing as these problems do
not affect users or crash the ircd, they'll have to wait until then.

Thanks for the input, Andrew

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From jozeph at globalmedia.com.br  Wed Sep 22 06:41:29 1999
From: jozeph at globalmedia.com.br (Jozenobio de Melo Brasil)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ### bugs ###
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.96.990922080754.19186A-100000@shell.icon.co.za>
References: Pine.GSO.3.96.990922080754.19186A&#45;100000@shell.icon.co.za
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.00.9909221040210.31138&#45;100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br

Hello,

        Thank you for reply,

        I has use the command:

        /msg OperServ akill add teste@teste.com.br teste

> > When I add one akill without placing no value in [expire] look at as it
> > adds:
> > 
> > Global -- from OperServ: |TWiSTER| added an AKILL for teste@teste.com.br
> > (expires in 2592000 (null)s)
> 
> I'll look into this. Please send me the exact command you used.
> 
> > 
> > What I make to delimit that; when somebody adds one akill and when it does
> > not place no value in [expire] this limit is placed by default in the period
> > of 1 day?
> 
> If you do not specify an expiry time, the default one, specified in the
> config, is used. If your default was not 1 day, please send me the exact
> command you used and I'll look into it.
> 
> > - teste@teste.com.br (by |TWiSTER| on Sep 21 1999; expires in 1 hour, 0 minutes)
> > -     teste
> > - teste@teste.com.br (by |TWiSTER| on Sep 21 1999; expires in 30 days)
> > -     teste
> > 
> > akill del teste@teste.com.br
> > - teste@teste.com.br removed from AKILL list. 
> > akill del teste@teste.com.br
> > - teste@teste.com.br removed from AKILL list. 
> > 
> > Why the services are not informing that already one exists host in the
> > database of it?
> 
> Duplicates are not checked for. I'll look at fixing this too.
> 
> > Please, somebody could, if possible, to send me one 'patch' of this
> > small bugs?
> 
> Currently I'm extremely busy with my upcomming exams. Things should be
> better, time wise, by the middle of October. Seeing as these problems do
> not affect users or crash the ircd, they'll have to wait until then.
> 
> Thanks for the input, Andrew
> 
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From jpinto9 at visteon.com  Wed Sep 22 08:54:33 1999
From: jpinto9 at visteon.com (Pinto, Joao Luis (J.))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] JOIN 0 subject
Message-ID: 199909221554.LAA02583@mailfw2.ford.com

About ircd with JOIN 0 support and services not supporting it, this should
be considered a major security problem because it can block some services
functionalities and also serve as a DoS for services
explaining:
        a bot programmed to join form chanell #a to #zzzzzzzzz, using join
#a,#b,#c and then join 0 .... can in a couple of hours disable mlock and
keep topic functionality for several hundreds of channels, until the bot
quit's or the services are restarted, anyway for every channel the bot joins
the channel is created on services internal channel list, so it will
sequentially  memory and slow down findchan function a lot because there are
much more channels to search on.
My opinio is the best way to fix the problem is not to code join 0 in
services but take it out from ircd, since most of users don't use it, and
this way you save ircd cpu insted of using more cpu on services :)

Just some ideas
        
João Luís Marques Pinto
PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
http://www.PTlink.net  



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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Wed Sep 22 10:23:59 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] JOIN 0 subject
In-Reply-To: <199909221554.LAA02583@mailfw2.ford.com>
References: 199909221554.LAA02583@mailfw2.ford.com
Message-ID: 001401bf051f$41f82610$0100a8c0@shadow

I will fix this problem soon. Removing support for /JOIN 0 from the ircd
source is just not a viable option. There are far too many ircd variants out
there, and this is legacy code. We just have to go with the flow. Besides,
it's not that hard to implement.

Andrew

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of Pinto, Joao
> Luis (J.)
> Sent: 22 September 1999 17:55
> To: 'ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org'
> Subject: [IRCServices] JOIN 0 subject
>
>
> About ircd with JOIN 0 support and services not supporting it, this should
> be considered a major security problem because it can block some services
> functionalities and also serve as a DoS for services
> explaining:
>       a bot programmed to join form chanell #a to #zzzzzzzzz, using join
> #a,#b,#c and then join 0 .... can in a couple of hours disable mlock and
> keep topic functionality for several hundreds of channels, until the bot
> quit's or the services are restarted, anyway for every channel
> the bot joins
> the channel is created on services internal channel list, so it will
> sequentially  memory and slow down findchan function a lot
> because there are
> much more channels to search on.
> My opinio is the best way to fix the problem is not to code join 0 in
> services but take it out from ircd, since most of users don't use it, and
> this way you save ircd cpu insted of using more cpu on services :)
>
> Just some ideas
>
> João Luís Marques Pinto
> PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
> <A  HREF="http://www.PTlink.net">http://www.PTlink.net</A>
>
>
>
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From jozeph at globalmedia.com.br  Wed Sep 22 11:53:00 1999
From: jozeph at globalmedia.com.br (jozeph@globalmedia.com.br)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] listchans and listnicks
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.05.9909221549330.1029&#45;100000@jozeph.globalmedia

Hi,

        Now, nothing work! Hehehe, can help? :>

[ircadmin@jozeph services]$ ./listchans
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[ircadmin@jozeph services]$ ./listnicks
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[ircadmin@jozeph services]$

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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Wed Sep 22 12:30:25 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] listchans and listnicks
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.05.9909221549330.1029-100000@jozeph.globalmedia>
References: Pine.LNX.4.05.9909221549330.1029&#45;100000@jozeph.globalmedia
Message-ID: 002001bf0530$eba15090$0100a8c0@shadow

There is a known issue with these programs. I'll fix it in the next release.

Andrew

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of
> jozeph@globalmedia.com.br
> Sent: 22 September 1999 20:53
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: [IRCServices] listchans and listnicks
>
>
> Hi,
>
>       Now, nothing work! Hehehe, can help? :>
>
> [ircadmin@jozeph services]$ ./listchans
> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
> [ircadmin@jozeph services]$ ./listnicks
> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
> [ircadmin@jozeph services]$
>
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From joshodom at uswest.net  Wed Sep 22 02:12:52 1999
From: joshodom at uswest.net (Josh Odom)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] JOIN 0 subject
In-Reply-To: <199909221554.LAA02583@mailfw2.ford.com>
References: 199909221554.LAA02583@mailfw2.ford.com
Message-ID: LOBBJDPNEGLDPOOEBCJKOEBICAAA.joshodom@uswest.net

Yes, however, there are far too many IRCD's out to have join 0 removed...
It would be impossible to have JOIN 0 out of all of the IRCD's

Shadow


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
[mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of Pinto, Joao
Luis (J.)
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 9:55 AM
To: 'ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org'
Subject: [IRCServices] JOIN 0 subject


About ircd with JOIN 0 support and services not supporting it, this should
be considered a major security problem because it can block some services
functionalities and also serve as a DoS for services
explaining:
        a bot programmed to join form chanell #a to #zzzzzzzzz, using join
#a,#b,#c and then join 0 .... can in a couple of hours disable mlock and
keep topic functionality for several hundreds of channels, until the bot
quit's or the services are restarted, anyway for every channel the bot joins
the channel is created on services internal channel list, so it will
sequentially  memory and slow down findchan function a lot because there are
much more channels to search on.
My opinio is the best way to fix the problem is not to code join 0 in
services but take it out from ircd, since most of users don't use it, and
this way you save ircd cpu insted of using more cpu on services :)

Just some ideas

João Luís Marques Pinto
PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
<A  HREF="http://www.PTlink.net">http://www.PTlink.net</A>



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From BeenJaminG at aol.com  Wed Sep 22 15:22:52 1999
From: BeenJaminG at aol.com (BeenJaminG@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] JOIN 0 subject
Message-ID: 16e01125.251ab0bc@aol.com

In a message dated 9/22/99 12:27:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
jpinto9@visteon.com writes:

> My opinio is the best way to fix the problem is not to code join 0 in
>  services but take it out from ircd, since most of users don't use it, and
>  this way you save ircd cpu insted of using more cpu on services :)
>  

I had also considered the impact of JOIN 0 to services with troublesome bots..
Taking JOIN 0 out of the ircd isn't an option.. that could break some clients 
that depend on JOIN 0 to part all chanenls- besides, I beleive most ircd 
distributions have this join command.. taking it out would be a problem :P
It just needs to be fixed (I havn't had any time to medle with the code 
lately)

- bstu
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From jpinto9 at visteon.com  Thu Sep 23 01:00:59 1999
From: jpinto9 at visteon.com (Pinto, Joao Luis (J.))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] JOIN 0 subject
Message-ID: 199909230801.EAA04179@mailfw2.ford.com

I removed JOIN 0 support from my ircd, my network runs with 10 servers, I am
running services for 5 months, I have a 1600 nicks registered on 5 months
and I dint found any JOIN 0 unknown messages from any client, besides those
I used to test it :)
On large network probably if removing is going to be wiped out should be
using firs bye a ircd version that would just accept JOIN 0 from servers,
not client and finally when all network upgrade, all JOIN 0 support could be
removed.
Off curse on a distribution point of view for services I agreed they should
support JOIN 0 for ircd compatibility.
I would like to publish the URL from my services, that I expect not to be
considered as SPAM, I am publishing it here as a source of code to be
applied on Andy Church services by anyone interested in some of the
features, if you think this is not very wise, or breaks the subject of this
ML please let me know, in that case I will not do this again. My new version
of services: 1.2.0 available from http://www.plink.net/Coders/index.html
addresses some problems I think still exist on actual services.

P.S.: Sorry, about my english :)

João Luís Marques Pinto
PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
<A  HREF="http://www.PTlink.net">http://www.PTlink.net</A>  



-----Original Message-----
From: BeenJaminG@aol.com [<A  HREF="mailto:BeenJaminG@aol.com">mailto:BeenJaminG@aol.com</A>]
Sent: quarta-feira, 22 de setembro de 1999 23:23
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] JOIN 0 subject


In a message dated 9/22/99 12:27:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
jpinto9@visteon.com writes:

> My opinio is the best way to fix the problem is not to code join 0 in
>  services but take it out from ircd, since most of users don't use it, and
>  this way you save ircd cpu insted of using more cpu on services :)
>  

I had also considered the impact of JOIN 0 to services with troublesome
bots..
Taking JOIN 0 out of the ircd isn't an option.. that could break some
clients 
that depend on JOIN 0 to part all chanenls- besides, I beleive most ircd 
distributions have this join command.. taking it out would be a problem :P
It just needs to be fixed (I havn't had any time to medle with the code 
lately)

- bstu
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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Thu Sep 23 01:47:31 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] JOIN 0 subject
In-Reply-To: <199909230801.EAA04179@mailfw2.ford.com>
References: 199909230801.EAA04179@mailfw2.ford.com
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.3.96.990923104436.1145F&#45;100000@shell.icon.co.za

I don't see a problem with postings like this so long as they don't get
out of hand and are related to the IRC Services this list is for. However,
problems associated with any 3rd party code will not be supported by this
list.

Andrew

On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Pinto, Joao Luis (J.) wrote:

> I removed JOIN 0 support from my ircd, my network runs with 10 servers, I am
> running services for 5 months, I have a 1600 nicks registered on 5 months
> and I dint found any JOIN 0 unknown messages from any client, besides those
> I used to test it :)
> On large network probably if removing is going to be wiped out should be
> using firs bye a ircd version that would just accept JOIN 0 from servers,
> not client and finally when all network upgrade, all JOIN 0 support could be
> removed.
> Off curse on a distribution point of view for services I agreed they should
> support JOIN 0 for ircd compatibility.
> I would like to publish the URL from my services, that I expect not to be
> considered as SPAM, I am publishing it here as a source of code to be
> applied on Andy Church services by anyone interested in some of the
> features, if you think this is not very wise, or breaks the subject of this
> ML please let me know, in that case I will not do this again. My new version
> of services: 1.2.0 available from http://www.plink.net/Coders/index.html
> addresses some problems I think still exist on actual services.
> 
> P.S.: Sorry, about my english :)
> 
> João Luís Marques Pinto
> PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
> <A  HREF="http://www.PTlink.net">http://www.PTlink.net</A>  
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BeenJaminG@aol.com [<A  HREF="mailto:BeenJaminG@aol.com">mailto:BeenJaminG@aol.com</A>]
> Sent: quarta-feira, 22 de setembro de 1999 23:23
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] JOIN 0 subject
> 
> 
> In a message dated 9/22/99 12:27:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> jpinto9@visteon.com writes:
> 
> > My opinio is the best way to fix the problem is not to code join 0 in
> >  services but take it out from ircd, since most of users don't use it, and
> >  this way you save ircd cpu insted of using more cpu on services :)
> >  
> 
> I had also considered the impact of JOIN 0 to services with troublesome
> bots..
> Taking JOIN 0 out of the ircd isn't an option.. that could break some
> clients 
> that depend on JOIN 0 to part all chanenls- besides, I beleive most ircd 
> distributions have this join command.. taking it out would be a problem :P
> It just needs to be fixed (I havn't had any time to medle with the code 
> lately)
> 
> - bstu
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From jpinto9 at visteon.com  Thu Sep 23 04:46:27 1999
From: jpinto9 at visteon.com (Pinto, Joao Luis (J.))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] JOIN 0 subject
Message-ID: 199909231146.HAA08123@mailfw3.ford.com

Thanks, I would like just to fix the URL: is http://www.ptlink.net... and
not plink.net.

I would like to know if there is any intention to implement TOKEN protocol
on services, since most of dalnet based ircd's support TOKEN protocol
reducing network bandwidth usage.

Another thing I would like to know is any ideas how to implement services
registration/query from a web page, I know some networks support this, what
do you think with be the best way to do this, via a services BOT getting
messages from a Java applet connected to the IRC network or by coding a
socket listener directly on services to manage this. I don't have to many
experience on this, so please if someone have some ideas or some code about
his I would appreciate that.

----
I don't see a problem with postings like this so long as they don't get
out of hand and are related to the IRC Services this list is for. However,
problems associated with any 3rd party code will not be supported by this
list.

Andrew

On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Pinto, Joao Luis (J.) wrote:

> I removed JOIN 0 support from my ircd, my network runs with 10 servers, I
am
> running services for 5 months, I have a 1600 nicks registered on 5 months
> and I dint found any JOIN 0 unknown messages from any client, besides
those
> I used to test it :)
> On large network probably if removing is going to be wiped out should be
> using firs bye a ircd version that would just accept JOIN 0 from servers,
> not client and finally when all network upgrade, all JOIN 0 support could
be
> removed.
> Off curse on a distribution point of view for services I agreed they
should
> support JOIN 0 for ircd compatibility.
> I would like to publish the URL from my services, that I expect not to be
> considered as SPAM, I am publishing it here as a source of code to be
> applied on Andy Church services by anyone interested in some of the
> features, if you think this is not very wise, or breaks the subject of
this
> ML please let me know, in that case I will not do this again. My new
version
> of services: 1.2.0 available from <A  HREF="http://www.plink.net/Coders/index.html">http://www.plink.net/Coders/index.html</A>
> addresses some problems I think still exist on actual services.
> 
> P.S.: Sorry, about my english :)
> 
> João Luís Marques Pinto
> PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
> <A  HREF="http://www.PTlink.net">http://www.PTlink.net</A>  
> 
>
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From jozeph at globalmedia.com.br  Thu Sep 23 21:59:29 1999
From: jozeph at globalmedia.com.br (Jozenobio de Melo Brasil)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Memory.
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.00.9909240157400.9736&#45;100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br

Hello,
               CPU   MEM
ircadmin 24402 20.5  2.3  1852  1456  ?  R   Sep 21 649:58 ./services

        This is normal? :> 20% CPU ? :> W0w0w.. :>

Greats,
Jozeph

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From ianj at esper.net  Fri Sep 24 02:08:33 1999
From: ianj at esper.net (Ian R. Justman)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Services information in documentation
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.3.96.990924014743.208V&#45;100000@vector.chocobo.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----


Hi there, from the network who was the first to use this software.  :)

Is there any way to tone down the references to EsperNet in the
documentation and the source code?  I periodically get requests for
support in #dragonweyr, EsperNet's official help channel, which I always
refer to Andy Church's page, http://achurch.dragonfire.net/services.

Some of whom stubbornly--sometimes rudely--mitigate said requests by
saying they're not code questions, but operational questions, when in fact
the channel is solely for the use of our users, and operational questions
do entail the use of the code.

I hope I haven't come off like I'm griping or anything, but some people do
not understand that while Services did have their start on EsperNet, our
administration channel is not the place to get support for it.  Like the
other networks I see represented here, we're just another satisfied user
of the software. 

While our staff and I appreciate the recognition, we're IRC operators, and
any work that we do on the code we do is to get the code to run on our own
servers and for any customizations we might make for our own purposes and
of course, bugfixes where we see them.  (Any bugfixes we'll be more than
happy to have rolled into the core source distribution.)

However, I personally might try running the software under other
environments to which I have access for portability reasons and for
reasons of fun.

Thanks. :)

- --Ian R. Justman, Co-Founder and Postmaster, The EsperNet IRC Network.

P.S.  Andy Church, Services' original author, is our other founder. (Hi,
Andy!)

- -----
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Co-Founder and Postmaster, The EsperNet IRC Network
Server Administrator, chocobo.esper.net "IJ" on IRC

PGP key available upon request, or finger ianj@esper.net.

If this message was signed with the Postmaster's key, please finger
postmaster@esper.net for the Postmaster public key.

Type Bits/KeyID    Date       User ID
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From dreamer at darkness.gr  Fri Sep 24 06:59:05 1999
From: dreamer at darkness.gr (Nick Krassas)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Bug report
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.00.9909240157400.9736-100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br>
References: Pine.LNX.4.00.9909240157400.9736&#45;100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.10.9909241653380.8319&#45;100000@darkness.darkness.gr

Greetings all,
        Looking at nickserv's features, do the following :
Register a nick under the name "password".
As services admin try to change then you own password :)

The same applies for nick "URL" etc etc....

Dinos

Admin @darkness.irc.gr


PS. :A bugfix exist.

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From jozeph at globalmedia.com.br  Fri Sep 24 07:12:49 1999
From: jozeph at globalmedia.com.br (Jozenobio de Melo Brasil)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ### SERIOUS BUGS ###
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.00.9909241112310.19483&#45;100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br

Hello,

Copy this:

/quote privmsg ChanServ Info #bug
/quote Join #Bug
/quote Topic #bug :I'm hacker, I can change TOPIC!
/quote MODE #bug +nt
/quote MODE #BUG

If no have peoples on channel... and it is registered...
Paste that...

You join on channel and set topic...
ChanServ makes you -o...
And... YOU change Topic!:)

He's says: It's possible anyone get OP on Channel... and... to steal
nick or channels...

But, He did not explain me as it functions! :/

LOG:

<H_^RuNaWaY^_H> hahah
<H_^RuNaWaY^_H> desse geito q eu to falando..
<|TWiSTER|> q jeito?
<H_^RuNaWaY^_H> eu vo pedi prum amigo meu me ensina a roba canal e nick...
<|TWiSTER|> pegue OP com SecureOps!
<H_^RuNaWaY^_H> talvez ele me ensine...
<H_^RuNaWaY^_H> eu num sei..
<|TWiSTER|> Robar canal e nick?
<|TWiSTER|> :>
<H_^RuNaWaY^_H> legal ne'...
<|TWiSTER|> \82 poss¡vel mesmo?
<|TWiSTER|> :>
<H_^RuNaWaY^_H> e'
<H_^RuNaWaY^_H> eu ja vi...
<Lennon> roubar canal chama-se takeover
<Lennon> nick \82 mais dificil
<Lennon> e aki quem fizer isso t  fudido pro resto da vida


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From jozeph at globalmedia.com.br  Fri Sep 24 10:27:33 1999
From: jozeph at globalmedia.com.br (Jozenobio de Melo Brasil)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Bug report
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9909241653380.8319-100000@darkness.darkness.gr>
References: Pine.LNX.4.10.9909241653380.8319&#45;100000@darkness.darkness.gr
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.00.9909241426340.28066&#45;100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br

Hello,.


        I know that, I has maked this:

-NickServ- List of entries matching *:
-NickServ-     email                 [Forbidden]
-NickServ-     hide                  [Forbidden]
-NickServ-     kill                  [Forbidden]
-NickServ-     language              [Forbidden]
-NickServ-     password              [Forbidden]
-NickServ-     private               [Forbidden]
-NickServ-     url                   [Forbidden]
-NickServ- End of list - 7/7 matches shown.


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The box said "Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0, or better", so I installed
Linux.

On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Nick Krassas wrote:

> Greetings all,
>       Looking at nickserv's features, do the following :
> Register a nick under the name "password".
> As services admin try to change then you own password :)
> 
> The same applies for nick "URL" etc etc....
> 
> Dinos
> 
> Admin @darkness.irc.gr
> 
> 
> PS. :A bugfix exist.
> 
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From jozeph at globalmedia.com.br  Fri Sep 24 10:39:28 1999
From: jozeph at globalmedia.com.br (Jozenobio de Melo Brasil)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] listchans|listnicks (BUG)
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.00.9909241436270.28497&#45;100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br

Hello,

[ircadmin@jozeph services]$ ./listchans
Loading database for list...
#100%comfortavel      Mais um lote criado por Rauen. <:) (Rauen)
#145                  Canal de EncOntRos e Paqueras ([Z]e[R]o_[C]oo[L])
#25a35anos            teste (ApAiXoNaDa)
#40anos               canal pra quem ta afim de ter um bom papo (lavall-bh)
#basic                O canal de programa\87ão da linguagem basic nesse server (Ulyboy)
Segmentation fault (core dumped)

The next channel is a Forbidden channel... #beginner (Forbidded)
If I drop it, it's ok... :)

[ircadmin@jozeph services]$ ./listnicks _Jozeph_
Loading database for list...
_Jozeph_ is [_Jozeph_]
Last seen address: ~jozeph@200.249.248.KJdshda908
Segmentation fault (core dumped)

Hmmm... cool! :> Problem...

[ircadmin@jozeph services]$ ./listchans \#brasil
Loading database for list...
Information about channel #Brasil:
        Founder: _PlAtTeR_ (~Platter@host216-51.elogica.com.br)
    Description: #Brasil
Segmentation fault (core dumped)

        Can help me to solve it? :)

Greats,
Jozeph

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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Fri Sep 24 11:13:31 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Services information in documentation
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.990924014743.208V-100000@vector.chocobo.org>
References: Pine.LNX.3.96.990924014743.208V&#45;100000@vector.chocobo.org
Message-ID: 000101bf06b8$82369eb0$0100a8c0@shadow

I have not had the chance to go through all the documentation, but I think
most references have been removed. Unfortunately, there are numerous other
references to "EsperNet Services" that our beyond my control - such as
websites, software archives etc.

Andrew

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of Ian R.
> Justman
> Sent: 24 September 1999 11:09
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: [IRCServices] Services information in documentation
>
>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
>
> Hi there, from the network who was the first to use this software.  :)
>
> Is there any way to tone down the references to EsperNet in the
> documentation and the source code?  I periodically get requests for
> support in #dragonweyr, EsperNet's official help channel, which I always
> refer to Andy Church's page, <A  HREF="http://achurch.dragonfire.net/services">http://achurch.dragonfire.net/services</A>.
>
> Some of whom stubbornly--sometimes rudely--mitigate said requests by
> saying they're not code questions, but operational questions, when in fact
> the channel is solely for the use of our users, and operational questions
> do entail the use of the code.
>
> I hope I haven't come off like I'm griping or anything, but some people do
> not understand that while Services did have their start on EsperNet, our
> administration channel is not the place to get support for it.  Like the
> other networks I see represented here, we're just another satisfied user
> of the software.
>
> While our staff and I appreciate the recognition, we're IRC operators, and
> any work that we do on the code we do is to get the code to run on our own
> servers and for any customizations we might make for our own purposes and
> of course, bugfixes where we see them.  (Any bugfixes we'll be more than
> happy to have rolled into the core source distribution.)
>
> However, I personally might try running the software under other
> environments to which I have access for portability reasons and for
> reasons of fun.
>
> Thanks. :)
>
> - --Ian R. Justman, Co-Founder and Postmaster, The EsperNet IRC Network.
>
> P.S.  Andy Church, Services' original author, is our other founder. (Hi,
> Andy!)
>
> - -----
> Ian R. Justman (NIC handle IJ12)  ianj@esper.net (Official
> EsperNet business)
> Co-Founder and Postmaster, The EsperNet IRC Network
> Server Administrator, chocobo.esper.net "IJ" on IRC
>
> PGP key available upon request, or finger ianj@esper.net.
>
> If this message was signed with the Postmaster's key, please finger
> postmaster@esper.net for the Postmaster public key.
>
> Type Bits/KeyID    Date       User ID
> pub  1024/BAB34B69 1997/11/15 EsperNet Postmaster <postmaster@esper.net>
>             Key fingerprint = 05 BD 7C B5 8E 0B FD EF  EE 47 49
> C4 96 11 59 75
>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> Version: 2.6.3a
> Charset: noconv
>
> iQCVAwUBN+s/lmaWxRa6s0tpAQFZZAP9F935fPCpLyT68EKFi7AdQE3pHZTeZeCv
> NIyOmBPH8fpHLC0kafEdiJDlgC+mUO2ozCFsfTJcJdHnfc15qBTkQiRfXH0RvVct
> QNvcnLvz6vXp36H+TZ3ej2dxetfVi8Q2BxpTSaRkzth6G3HVOEHAROhzQBJfx/kR
> ZaQJpKb5+cQ=
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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Fri Sep 24 11:13:34 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] listchans and listnicks
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.05.9909221549330.1029-100000@jozeph.globalmedia>
References: Pine.LNX.4.05.9909221549330.1029&#45;100000@jozeph.globalmedia
Message-ID: 000201bf06b8$83c3f570$0100a8c0@shadow

I've been unable to reproduce the core dumps with the listnicks and
listchans commands. I think it could be related to a corrupt database file.
How many people are having this problem?

Thanks, Andrew

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of
> jozeph@globalmedia.com.br
> Sent: 22 September 1999 20:53
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: [IRCServices] listchans and listnicks
>
>
> Hi,
>
>       Now, nothing work! Hehehe, can help? :>
>
> [ircadmin@jozeph services]$ ./listchans
> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
> [ircadmin@jozeph services]$ ./listnicks
> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
> [ircadmin@jozeph services]$
>
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>  \|/ --- \|/   | Jozenóbio de Melo Brasil.
>   @~/ Oo \~@   | jozeph@globalmedia.com.br
>  /_( \__/ )_\  | <A  HREF="http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph">http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph</A>
>     \__U_/     | " Onde a maioria vive com a bondade,
>                |  a maldade da minoria tende sempre a desaparecer! "
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> The box said "Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0, or better", so I installed
> Linux.
>
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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Fri Sep 24 11:13:36 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Memory.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.00.9909240157400.9736-100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br>
References: Pine.LNX.4.00.9909240157400.9736&#45;100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br
Message-ID: 000301bf06b8$84f597a0$0100a8c0@shadow

What type of CPU, at what stage of operation was services and how many users
were online? It might be possible, but I *think* there could something wrong
there.

Andrew

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of Jozenobio de
> Melo Brasil
> Sent: 24 September 1999 06:59
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: [IRCServices] Memory.
>
>
> Hello,
>                CPU   MEM
> ircadmin 24402 20.5  2.3  1852  1456  ?  R   Sep 21 649:58 ./services
>
>       This is normal? :> 20% CPU ? :> W0w0w.. :>
>
> Greats,
> Jozeph
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From scotts at qx.net  Fri Sep 24 11:24:15 1999
From: scotts at qx.net (Scott Seufert)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ### SERIOUS BUGS ###
Message-ID: 001a01bf06ba$02281c10$0959ebd0@orion.qx.net

Services:
*** ircservices-4.3.1 services.flamebait.org -- build #1, compiled Sep 16
1999 22:28:14

-----Original Message-----
From: Jozenobio de Melo Brasil <jozeph@globalmedia.com.br>
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Date: Friday, September 24, 1999 11:08 AM
Subject: [IRCServices] ### SERIOUS BUGS ###


Hello,

Copy this:

/quote privmsg ChanServ Info #bug

[14:07] -> Server: privmsg ChanServ Info #bug
-
[14:07] -ChanServ- Syntax: INFO channel [ALL]

/quote Join #Bug

[14:08] *** Now talking in #Bug

/quote Topic #bug :I'm hacker, I can change TOPIC!

[14:08] -> Server: Topic #bug :I'm hacker, I can change TOPIC!
[14:08] *** katsklaw changes topic to 'I'm hacker, I can change TOPIC!'

/quote MODE #bug +nt

[14:08] -> Server: MODE #bug +nt
[14:08] *** katsklaw sets mode: +nt

/quote MODE #BUG

[14:08] -> Server: MODE #BUG
[14:08] *** [#Bug] Channel mode is +tn
[14:08] *** [#Bug] Channel created Fri Sep 24 14:10:17 1999



I didn't see anything abnormal, nor do I see any bugs. I even registered the
channel and tried that way and couldn't see anything buggy nor wrong.



<snip>


Scott Seufert
aka katsklaw
Network Admin
Services Root
irc.flamebait.org

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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Fri Sep 24 12:25:41 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] listchans and listnicks
In-Reply-To: <000201bf06b8$83c3f570$0100a8c0@shadow>
References: 000201bf06b8$83c3f570$0100a8c0@shadow
Message-ID: 003b01bf06c2$97191a10$0100a8c0@shadow

Ok I lied... I found the problem and it has been fixed. A patch should be
out later today, tonight or tomorrow.

Andrew

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of Andrew Kempe
> Sent: 24 September 1999 20:14
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: RE: [IRCServices] listchans and listnicks
>
>
> I've been unable to reproduce the core dumps with the listnicks and
> listchans commands. I think it could be related to a corrupt
> database file.
> How many people are having this problem?
>
> Thanks, Andrew
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> > [<A  HREF="mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On">mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On</A> Behalf Of
> > jozeph@globalmedia.com.br
> > Sent: 22 September 1999 20:53
> > To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> > Subject: [IRCServices] listchans and listnicks
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >     Now, nothing work! Hehehe, can help? :>
> >
> > [ircadmin@jozeph services]$ ./listchans
> > Segmentation fault (core dumped)
> > [ircadmin@jozeph services]$ ./listnicks
> > Segmentation fault (core dumped)
> > [ircadmin@jozeph services]$
> >
> > --
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> >  \|/ --- \|/   | Jozenóbio de Melo Brasil.
> >   @~/ Oo \~@   | jozeph@globalmedia.com.br
> >  /_( \__/ )_\  | <A  HREF="http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph">http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph</A>
> >     \__U_/     | " Onde a maioria vive com a bondade,
> >                |  a maldade da minoria tende sempre a desaparecer! "
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > Linux.
> >
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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Fri Sep 24 13:03:14 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ircservices-4.3.2 released
Message-ID: 003c01bf06c7$d5fc17f0$0100a8c0@shadow

This is primarily a bug fix version, fixing the listchans and listnicks
commands. The lack of support for "JOIN 0" has also been addressed.

ftp://ender.shadowfire.org/pub/ircservices/ircservices-4.3.2.tar.gz
<A  HREF="ftp://ender.shadowfire.org/pub/ircservices/ircservices-4.3.2.diff">ftp://ender.shadowfire.org/pub/ircservices/ircservices-4.3.2.diff</A>

Mirror: (should be updated by 7am GMT 25/09/99)
<A  HREF="ftp://ftp.electrocity.com/pub/ircservices/ircservices-4.3.2.tar.gz">ftp://ftp.electrocity.com/pub/ircservices/ircservices-4.3.2.tar.gz</A>
<A  HREF="ftp://ftp.electrocity.com/pub/ircservices/ircservices-4.3.2.diff">ftp://ftp.electrocity.com/pub/ircservices/ircservices-4.3.2.diff</A>

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From jozeph at globalmedia.com.br  Fri Sep 24 16:01:45 1999
From: jozeph at globalmedia.com.br (Jozenobio de Melo Brasil)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ircservices-4.3.2 released
In-Reply-To: <003c01bf06c7$d5fc17f0$0100a8c0@shadow>
References: 003c01bf06c7$d5fc17f0$0100a8c0@shadow
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.00.9909241958200.8928&#45;100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br

Hello,

        Cool, but.... listchans and listnicks don't fixed 100%.
        Look at the problemas exists:

        If you try use ./listchans, and if have a Forbidden chan on list
look:

        It's NORMAL:

[ircadmin@jozeph services]$ ./listchans
Loading database for list...
    #elitecop             EliteIRC® (_Jozeph_)
1 channels registered.
[ircadmin@jozeph services]$

        Now, I go add a Forbidden Channel:

[msg(chanserv)] forbid #beginner
-ChanServ- Channel #beginner is now forbidden.
[msg(operserv)] update
-OperServ- Updating databases.

        And now:

[ircadmin@jozeph services]$ ./listchans
Loading database for list...
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[ircadmin@jozeph services]$

        Hehehe, Cool... and, look on ./listnicks:

[ircadmin@jozeph services]$ ./listnicks _Jozeph_
Loading database for list...
_Jozeph_ is IRC Administrator
Last seen address: ~ircadmin@10.0.0.1
  Time registered: Sep 24 19:13:45 1999 EST
   Last seen time: Sep 24 19:58:28 1999 EST
          Options: , Security
[ircadmin@jozeph services]$

        Why it's don't print "Kill Protection" ?

        Now I desable Kill Protection:

[msg(nickserv)] set _Jozeph_ Kill off
-NickServ- Kill protection is now OFF.
[msg(operserv)] update
-OperServ- Updating databases.

[ircadmin@jozeph services]$ ./listnicks _Jozeph_
Loading database for list...
_Jozeph_ is IRC Administrator
Last seen address: ~ircadmin@10.0.0.1
  Time registered: Sep 24 19:13:45 1999 EST
   Last seen time: Sep 24 20:01:10 1999 EST
          Options: Security, Auto Join
[ircadmin@jozeph services]$

I will set NOEXPIRE ON

[ircadmin@jozeph services]$ ./listnicks _Jozeph_
Loading database for list...
_Jozeph_ is IRC Administrator
Last seen address: ~ircadmin@10.0.0.1
  Time registered: Sep 24 19:13:45 1999 EST
   Last seen time: Sep 24 20:09:37 1999 EST
          Options: , No Expire
[ircadmin@jozeph services]$

Why it's don't print: Securety, Auto Join, No Expire? :)

[ircadmin@jozeph services]$ ./listnicks _Jozeph_
Loading database for list...
_Jozeph_ is IRC Administrator
Last seen address: ~ircadmin@10.0.0.1
  Time registered: Sep 24 19:13:45 1999 EST
   Last seen time: Sep 24 20:11:05 1999 EST
          Options: , Private
[ircadmin@jozeph services]$

Where is the others options? :) 

Hehehe,
Thanks for all,
Thanks Andrew! :)

--
--------------------------------------------------------------------
 \|/ --- \|/   | Jozenóbio de Melo Brasil.
  @~/ Oo \~@   | jozeph@globalmedia.com.br
 /_( \__/ )_\  | http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph
    \__U_/     | " Onde a maioria vive com a bondade,
               |  a maldade da minoria tende sempre a desaparecer! "
--------------------------------------------------------------------
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Linux.

On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Andrew Kempe wrote:

> This is primarily a bug fix version, fixing the listchans and listnicks
> commands. The lack of support for "JOIN 0" has also been addressed.
> 
> <A  HREF="ftp://ender.shadowfire.org/pub/ircservices/ircservices-4.3.2.tar.gz">ftp://ender.shadowfire.org/pub/ircservices/ircservices-4.3.2.tar.gz</A>
> <A  HREF="ftp://ender.shadowfire.org/pub/ircservices/ircservices-4.3.2.diff">ftp://ender.shadowfire.org/pub/ircservices/ircservices-4.3.2.diff</A>
> 
> Mirror: (should be updated by 7am GMT 25/09/99)
> <A  HREF="ftp://ftp.electrocity.com/pub/ircservices/ircservices-4.3.2.tar.gz">ftp://ftp.electrocity.com/pub/ircservices/ircservices-4.3.2.tar.gz</A>
> <A  HREF="ftp://ftp.electrocity.com/pub/ircservices/ircservices-4.3.2.diff">ftp://ftp.electrocity.com/pub/ircservices/ircservices-4.3.2.diff</A>
> 
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> 
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From achurch at dragonfire.net  Sat Sep 25 09:35:04 1999
From: achurch at dragonfire.net (Andrew Church)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ### SERIOUS BUGS ###
Message-ID: 37ec194d.00270@dragonfire.net

>/quote privmsg ChanServ Info #bug
>/quote Join #Bug
>/quote Topic #bug :I'm hacker, I can change TOPIC!
>/quote MODE #bug +nt
>/quote MODE #BUG
>
>If no have peoples on channel... and it is registered...
>Paste that...
>
>You join on channel and set topic...
>ChanServ makes you -o...
>And... YOU change Topic!:)

     This is because your TOPIC command is seen by the IRC server before
Services can react to your entering the channel and make you -o.  The
real solution is closer integration of Services and the IRC daemon, but
in the meantime a workaround would be to check all topic changes for
validity (if (mode_t && !is_chanop(nick, channel)) then restore topic).

  --Andrew Church
    achurch@dragonfire.net
    http://achurch.dragonfire.net/
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From irc at pc.jaring.my  Fri Sep 24 18:13:11 1999
From: irc at pc.jaring.my (Lim Cheng Siong)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] listchans and listnicks
References: <000201bf06b8$83c3f570$0100a8c0@shadow>
Message-ID: 002c01bf06f5$2c152280$5f868ea1@jaring.my

Me!
I did send in an email to the list abt segmentation problem...
but till now, no one reply... :~


With regards,
---------
  Lim Cheng Siong (admin@nurd.org)
  Network Operations Administrator
  URL - http://www.nurd.org

----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Kempe <andrewk@icon.co.za>
To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 1999 2:13 AM
Subject: RE: [IRCServices] listchans and listnicks


I've been unable to reproduce the core dumps with the listnicks and
listchans commands. I think it could be related to a corrupt database file.
How many people are having this problem?

Thanks, Andrew

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> [<A  HREF="mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On">mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On</A> Behalf Of
> jozeph@globalmedia.com.br
> Sent: 22 September 1999 20:53
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: [IRCServices] listchans and listnicks
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Now, nothing work! Hehehe, can help? :>
>
> [ircadmin@jozeph services]$ ./listchans
> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
> [ircadmin@jozeph services]$ ./listnicks
> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
> [ircadmin@jozeph services]$
>
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>  \|/ --- \|/   | Jozenóbio de Melo Brasil.
>   @~/ Oo \~@   | jozeph@globalmedia.com.br
>  /_( \__/ )_\  | <A  HREF="http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph">http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph</A>
>     \__U_/     | " Onde a maioria vive com a bondade,
>                |  a maldade da minoria tende sempre a desaparecer! "
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
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From achurch at dragonfire.net  Sun Sep 26 11:54:08 1999
From: achurch at dragonfire.net (Andrew Church)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] [Fwd: /msg nickserv list and /msg chanserv list] (fwd)
Message-ID: 37ed8add.00254@dragonfire.net

Envelope-to: achurch@dragonfire.net
Delivery-date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 06:23:52 -0700
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 09:55:17 -0400
From: kernal1964 <kernal2@cs.net>
X-Accept-Language: en
To: achurch@dragonfire.net
Subject: [Fwd: /msg nickserv list and /msg chanserv list]

Andy can you please respond to first e-mail message.



kernal1964 wrote:

> HI
>
> I am using your current version of services and when I type /msg
> nickserv list * and /msg chanserv list * its giving me a blank list.  Do
> you have suggestions please??
>
> Here is what its doing:
>
> ChanServ-
> -
> -ChanServ-
> -
> -ChanServ-
> -
> -ChanServ-
> -
> -ChanServ-
> -
> -ChanServ-
> -
> -ChanServ- End of list - 24/24 matches shown.


  --Andrew Church
    achurch@dragonfire.net
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From chengsiong at cheerful.com  Sun Sep 26 00:03:22 1999
From: chengsiong at cheerful.com (Lim Cheng Siong)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Urgent Help
Message-ID: 014601bf07ed$3a5bc6c0$abd68ea1@jaring.my

[ircadmin services2]$ ./services
Segmentation fault (core dumped)

Can anyone help me with this?


Josh.

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---------
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  Network Operations Administrator
  URL - http://www.nurd.org


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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Sun Sep 26 05:42:23 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:49 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Urgent Help
In-Reply-To: <014601bf07ed$3a5bc6c0$abd68ea1@jaring.my>
References: 014601bf07ed$3a5bc6c0$abd68ea1@jaring.my
Message-ID: 000c01bf081c$94893630$0100a8c0@shadow

What does it say in the log file? 

Output from "gdb" would also be helpfull.

Andrew

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of Lim Cheng
> Siong
> Sent: 26 September 1999 09:03
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: [IRCServices] Urgent Help
> 
> 
> [ircadmin services2]$ ./services
> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
> 
> Can anyone help me with this?
> 
> 
> Josh.
> 
> With regards,
> ---------
>   Lim Cheng Siong (admin@nurd.org) 
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From ianj at esper.net  Sun Sep 26 19:32:46 1999
From: ianj at esper.net (Ian R. Justman)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Additional note...
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.3.96.990926193231.23012D&#45;100000@vector.chocobo.org


Forgot to mention that we are running 4.2.4.

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From ianj at esper.net  Sun Sep 26 19:30:54 1999
From: ianj at esper.net (Ian R. Justman)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] SecureOps issue
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.3.96.990926192635.23012B&#45;100000@vector.chocobo.org


Hello.

I had a user who is having an issue with SecureOps on their channel.  I
have been able to /join a user's channel with SecureOps set, and its
founder op me.  It never de-opped me, and I was using a non-opered version
of myself.

Any ideas?

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From ircadmin at chatcircuit.com  Sun Sep 26 21:00:53 1999
From: ircadmin at chatcircuit.com (Lafe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] SecureOps issue
References: <Pine.LNX.3.96.990926192635.23012B-100000@vector.chocobo.org>
Message-ID: 000e01bf089c$e6534340$ad90aad0@lafe

It wouldn't happen to have been a linked nickname, would it have?

BTW - Hi Ian, long time no see <g>.

Lafe
ircadmin@chatcircuit.com
http://chatcircuit.com/ircserver/
irc.chatcircuit.com:6667,7000

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Subject: [IRCServices] SecureOps issue


>
> Hello.
>
> I had a user who is having an issue with SecureOps on their channel.  I
> have been able to /join a user's channel with SecureOps set, and its
> founder op me.  It never de-opped me, and I was using a non-opered version
> of myself.
>
> Any ideas?
>
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From jozeph at globalmedia.com.br  Sun Sep 26 23:18:49 1999
From: jozeph at globalmedia.com.br (Jozenobio de Melo Brasil)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Link bug.
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.00.9909270315230.28581&#45;100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br

Hello,

I found another one bug on link, we go there:

        When you register a nick AA, and register a nick BB...
and link nick BB to nick AA... enters in the IRC with AA
 nick and later changes for nick BB... the NickServ does not ask for you
to modify nick!

        Change or I disconnect you... :>
        I will work to fix it... bye

Greats,
Jozeph

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From ianj at esper.net  Sun Sep 26 23:33:36 1999
From: ianj at esper.net (Ian R. Justman)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] SecureOps issue
In-Reply-To: <000e01bf089c$e6534340$ad90aad0@lafe>
References: 000e01bf089c$e6534340$ad90aad0@lafe
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.3.96.990926233258.23012G&#45;100000@vector.chocobo.org

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Lafe wrote:

> It wouldn't happen to have been a linked nickname, would it have?

I even came in with an unregistered nick and the same thing.

> BTW - Hi Ian, long time no see <g>.

Likewise. :)

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From uhc0 at rz.uni-karlsruhe.de  Sun Sep 26 23:57:07 1999
From: uhc0 at rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Yusuf Iskenderoglu)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] SecureOps issue
References: <Pine.LNX.3.96.990926233258.23012G-100000@vector.chocobo.org>
Message-ID: 003101bf08b5$848d0380$5f2a14ac@hadiko.de


And you are also sure that the LeaveOps option is NOT set,
for it means "not to deop anyone except with the /chanserv deop ....
command" ?

regards.
TimeMr14C
ICQ : 2058464


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Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] SecureOps issue


> On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Lafe wrote:
>
> > It wouldn't happen to have been a linked nickname, would it have?
>
> I even came in with an unregistered nick and the same thing.
>
> > BTW - Hi Ian, long time no see <g>.
>
> Likewise. :)
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From jpinto9 at visteon.com  Mon Sep 27 01:16:52 1999
From: jpinto9 at visteon.com (Pinto, Joao Luis (J.))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] listchans and listnicks
Message-ID: 199909270817.EAA20955@mailfw1.ford.com

Fixed :),
I dont know if these is allready on services 4.3, but I inserted the founder
nick on the channels list for ./listchan
Howeve it was not checking if ci->founder was null befores displaying it :),
I didnt remember forbidden channels can have frounder set to NULL,

 putting just ci->founder ? ci->founder : "No Founder", instead of
ci->founder will fix the problem

João Luís Marques Pinto
PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
http://www.PTlink.net <<A  HREF="http://www.PTlink.net">http://www.PTlink.net</A>>  




-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Kempe [ <A  HREF="mailto:andrewk@icon.co.za">mailto:andrewk@icon.co.za</A> <<A  HREF="mailto:andrewk@icon.co.za">mailto:andrewk@icon.co.za</A>> ]
Sent: sexta-feira, 24 de setembro de 1999 20:26
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: RE: [IRCServices] listchans and listnicks


Ok I lied... I found the problem and it has been fixed. A patch should be
out later today, tonight or tomorrow.

Andrew

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> [ <A  HREF="mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org">mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org</A>
<<A  HREF="mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org">mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org</A>> ]On Behalf Of Andrew Kempe
> Sent: 24 September 1999 20:14
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: RE: [IRCServices] listchans and listnicks
>
>
> I've been unable to reproduce the core dumps with the listnicks and
> listchans commands. I think it could be related to a corrupt
> database file.
> How many people are having this problem?
>
> Thanks, Andrew
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> > [ <A  HREF="mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org">mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org</A>
<<A  HREF="mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org">mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org</A>> ]On Behalf Of
> > jozeph@globalmedia.com.br
> > Sent: 22 September 1999 20:53
> > To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> > Subject: [IRCServices] listchans and listnicks
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >     Now, nothing work! Hehehe, can help? :>
> >
> > [ircadmin@jozeph services]$ ./listchans
> > Segmentation fault (core dumped)
> > [ircadmin@jozeph services]$ ./listnicks
> > Segmentation fault (core dumped)
> > [ircadmin@jozeph services]$
> >
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<<A  HREF="http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph">http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph</A>> 
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From scotts at flamebait.org  Mon Sep 27 08:39:36 1999
From: scotts at flamebait.org (Scott Seufert)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Link bug.
Message-ID: 19990927124143038.AAA293@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.17]

did you disconnect first? ... What I mean is that if you log on ... 
register(or identify) the nick aa ... then register bb and link them ...
when you switch back to aa NickServ has no reason to challenge you for a
password because you are still identified for aa ...

----------
>From: Jozenobio de Melo Brasil <jozeph@globalmedia.com.br>
>To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
>Subject: [IRCServices] Link bug.
>Date: Sun, Sep 26, 1999, 11:18 PM
>

> Hello,
>
> I found another one bug on link, we go there:
>
>  When you register a nick AA, and register a nick BB...
> and link nick BB to nick AA... enters in the IRC with AA
>  nick and later changes for nick BB... the NickServ does not ask for you
> to modify nick!
>
>  Change or I disconnect you... :>
>  I will work to fix it... bye
>
> Greats,
> Jozeph
>
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>  \|/ --- \|/   | Jozenóbio de Melo Brasil.
>   @~/ Oo \~@   | jozeph@globalmedia.com.br
>  /_( \__/ )_\  | http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph
>     \__U_/     | " Onde a maioria vive com a bondade,
>                |  a maldade da minoria tende sempre a desaparecer! "
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> The box said "Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0, or better", so I installed
> Linux.
>

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From scotts at flamebait.org  Mon Sep 27 08:50:57 1999
From: scotts at flamebait.org (Scott Seufert)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Link bug.
Message-ID: 19990927125304811.AAA294@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.17]

Something else I forgot to add about this ... if your host mask is listed in
the access list for NickServ ... NS shouldn't challenge you for a password
either.

----------
>From: Jozenobio de Melo Brasil <jozeph@globalmedia.com.br>
>To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
>Subject: [IRCServices] Link bug.
>Date: Sun, Sep 26, 1999, 11:18 PM
>

> Hello,
>
> I found another one bug on link, we go there:
>
>  When you register a nick AA, and register a nick BB...
> and link nick BB to nick AA... enters in the IRC with AA
>  nick and later changes for nick BB... the NickServ does not ask for you
> to modify nick!
>
>  Change or I disconnect you... :>
>  I will work to fix it... bye
>
> Greats,
> Jozeph
>
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>  \|/ --- \|/   | Jozenóbio de Melo Brasil.
>   @~/ Oo \~@   | jozeph@globalmedia.com.br
>  /_( \__/ )_\  | http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph
>     \__U_/     | " Onde a maioria vive com a bondade,
>                |  a maldade da minoria tende sempre a desaparecer! "
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Linux.
>

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From jpinto9 at visteon.com  Mon Sep 27 07:16:45 1999
From: jpinto9 at visteon.com (Pinto, Joao Luis (J.))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ### SERIOUS BUGS ###
Message-ID: 199909271432.KAA29866@mailfw1.ford.com

This solution is not enough, because you wold also need to check for MODES
anc bounce them, because instead of TOPIC #bug :...
You can also put MODE #bug +b *@*, and the same problem will raise :), in
this case you would need to bounce the ban.

Regards, João Pinto
> App. Dev. & Integration Group - Information Systems Dept.
> Visteon Portugal (Palmela) - An Enterprise of Ford Motor Company
> 
*       E-Mail: jpinto9@visteon.com
*       Phone: 01-2339323
*       Outside Portugal: 351-1-2339323
*       FordNet: 8-233-9323



-----Original Message-----
From: achurch@dragonfire.net [mailto:achurch@dragonfire.net]
Sent: sábado, 25 de setembro de 1999 1:35
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] ### SERIOUS BUGS ###


>/quote privmsg ChanServ Info #bug
>/quote Join #Bug
>/quote Topic #bug :I'm hacker, I can change TOPIC!
>/quote MODE #bug +nt
>/quote MODE #BUG
>
>If no have peoples on channel... and it is registered...
>Paste that...
>
>You join on channel and set topic...
>ChanServ makes you -o...
>And... YOU change Topic!:)

     This is because your TOPIC command is seen by the IRC server before
Services can react to your entering the channel and make you -o.  The
real solution is closer integration of Services and the IRC daemon, but
in the meantime a workaround would be to check all topic changes for
validity (if (mode_t && !is_chanop(nick, channel)) then restore topic).

  --Andrew Church
    achurch@dragonfire.net
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From jozeph at globalmedia.com.br  Mon Sep 27 08:15:26 1999
From: jozeph at globalmedia.com.br (Jozenobio de Melo Brasil)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Link bug.
In-Reply-To: <19990927125304811.AAA294@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.17]>
References: 19990927125304811.AAA294@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.17]
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.00.9909271215050.5596&#45;100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br

> Something else I forgot to add about this ... if your host mask is listed in
> the access list for NickServ ... NS shouldn't challenge you for a password
> either.

        My access list is null... 


> 
> ----------
> >From: Jozenobio de Melo Brasil <jozeph@globalmedia.com.br>
> >To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> >Subject: [IRCServices] Link bug.
> >Date: Sun, Sep 26, 1999, 11:18 PM
> >
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > I found another one bug on link, we go there:
> >
> >  When you register a nick AA, and register a nick BB...
> > and link nick BB to nick AA... enters in the IRC with AA
> >  nick and later changes for nick BB... the NickServ does not ask for you
> > to modify nick!
> >
> >  Change or I disconnect you... :>
> >  I will work to fix it... bye
> >
> > Greats,
> > Jozeph
> >
> > --
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> >  \|/ --- \|/   | Jozenóbio de Melo Brasil.
> >   @~/ Oo \~@   | jozeph@globalmedia.com.br
> >  /_( \__/ )_\  | http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph
> >     \__U_/     | " Onde a maioria vive com a bondade,
> >                |  a maldade da minoria tende sempre a desaparecer! "
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > The box said "Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0, or better", so I installed
> > Linux.
> >
> 
> Scott Seufert
> aka katsklaw
> Network Admin
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From jozeph at globalmedia.com.br  Mon Sep 27 08:14:48 1999
From: jozeph at globalmedia.com.br (Jozenobio de Melo Brasil)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Link bug.
In-Reply-To: <19990927124143038.AAA293@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.17]>
References: 19990927124143038.AAA293@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.17]
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.00.9909271213450.5596&#45;100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br

> did you disconnect first? ... What I mean is that if you log on ... 
> register(or identify) the nick aa ... then register bb and link them ...
> when you switch back to aa NickServ has no reason to challenge you for a
> password because you are still identified for aa ...


        Yes, I has disconnect first... try you!
        Disconnect, connect using nick AA and change to nick BB...
NickServ don't request the identify...


> 
> ----------
> >From: Jozenobio de Melo Brasil <jozeph@globalmedia.com.br>
> >To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> >Subject: [IRCServices] Link bug.
> >Date: Sun, Sep 26, 1999, 11:18 PM
> >
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > I found another one bug on link, we go there:
> >
> >  When you register a nick AA, and register a nick BB...
> > and link nick BB to nick AA... enters in the IRC with AA
> >  nick and later changes for nick BB... the NickServ does not ask for you
> > to modify nick!
> >
> >  Change or I disconnect you... :>
> >  I will work to fix it... bye
> >
> > Greats,
> > Jozeph
> >
> > --
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> >  \|/ --- \|/   | Jozenóbio de Melo Brasil.
> >   @~/ Oo \~@   | jozeph@globalmedia.com.br
> >  /_( \__/ )_\  | http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph
> >     \__U_/     | " Onde a maioria vive com a bondade,
> >                |  a maldade da minoria tende sempre a desaparecer! "
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > The box said "Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0, or better", so I installed
> > Linux.
> >
> 
> Scott Seufert
> aka katsklaw
> Network Admin
> irc.flamebait.org
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From chengsiong at cheerful.com  Mon Sep 27 08:12:51 1999
From: chengsiong at cheerful.com (Lim Cheng Siong)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] error?
Message-ID: 01d501bf08fa$ccf64100$459abcca@jaring.my

[23:11:] -ChanServ- Channel #services will not expire.
-

[23:11:] -> *chanserv* info #services
[23:11:] -ChanServ- Information for channel #services:
[23:11:] -ChanServ-         Founder: pagan (admin@j29.jhb32.jaring.my)
[23:11:] -ChanServ-     Description: Services
[23:11:] -ChanServ-      Registered: Sep 27 10:10:04 1999 CDT
[23:11:] -ChanServ-       Last used: Sep 27 10:11:33 1999 CDT
[23:11:] -ChanServ-      Last topic: Services Channel...
[23:11:] -ChanServ-    Topic set by: pagan
[23:11:] -ChanServ-         Options: Topic Retention, Secure
[23:11:] -ChanServ-       Mode lock: +nt

Why it wouldn't show that the channel won't expire like what it show on a
nick?

[23:11:] -NickServ- pagan is Where there is a will, there is a way!
-
[23:11:] -NickServ- pagan is currently online.
-
[23:11:] -NickServ-   Time registered: Sep 27 10:09:16 1999 CDT
-
[23:11:] -NickServ-           Options: Security
-
[23:11:] -NickServ- This nickname will not expire.




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From chengsiong at cheerful.com  Mon Sep 27 08:15:16 1999
From: chengsiong at cheerful.com (Lim Cheng Siong)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ...
Message-ID: 01db01bf08fb$1c8428e0$459abcca@jaring.my

[23:14:] -> *chanserv* set #services topic Services help..

Is the syntax right?
If so, why wouldn't ChanServ change the topic?


    


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From scotts at qx.net  Mon Sep 27 08:59:48 1999
From: scotts at qx.net (Scott Seufert)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Re: ChanServ JOIN
Message-ID: 002401bf0901$5386be60$0959ebd0@orion.qx.net

Is there any plans to introducing the JOIN or set JOIN command into
ChanServ?

so that a channel founder could send:

/msg ChanServ Set #channel JOIN on

and make ChanServ join and stay in channel? I've seen this done in a
different set of IRC services. I liked the Idea to be honest, this could
also be be globally turned on/off via services.conf for those that wish not
to use it. IMO this feature would cut down on the number of client bots.



Scott Seufert
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From scotts at qx.net  Mon Sep 27 09:02:20 1999
From: scotts at qx.net (Scott Seufert)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Link bug.
Message-ID: 003101bf0901$addfb600$0959ebd0@orion.qx.net

I don't know about anyone else on this list ... however I think it would be
nice if people would include the version of services that they are using
when posting bugs.... I have tried to reproduce several bugs posted and
could not duplicate the bug.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jozenobio de Melo Brasil <jozeph@globalmedia.com.br>
To: Scott Seufert <scotts@flamebait.org>
Cc: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Date: Monday, September 27, 1999 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Link bug.


> Something else I forgot to add about this ... if your host mask is listed
in
> the access list for NickServ ... NS shouldn't challenge you for a password
> either.

My access list is null...


>
> ----------
> >From: Jozenobio de Melo Brasil <jozeph@globalmedia.com.br>
> >To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> >Subject: [IRCServices] Link bug.
> >Date: Sun, Sep 26, 1999, 11:18 PM
> >
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I found another one bug on link, we go there:
> >
> >  When you register a nick AA, and register a nick BB...
> > and link nick BB to nick AA... enters in the IRC with AA
> >  nick and later changes for nick BB... the NickServ does not ask for you
> > to modify nick!
> >
> >  Change or I disconnect you... :>
> >  I will work to fix it... bye
> >
> > Greats,
> > Jozeph
> >
> > --
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> >  \|/ --- \|/   | Jozenóbio de Melo Brasil.
> >   @~/ Oo \~@   | jozeph@globalmedia.com.br
> >  /_( \__/ )_\  | http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph
> >     \__U_/     | " Onde a maioria vive com a bondade,
> >                |  a maldade da minoria tende sempre a desaparecer! "
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > The box said "Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0, or better", so I installed
> > Linux.
> >
>
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aka katsklaw
Network Admin
irc.flamebait.org

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From jestercm at chatfamily.com  Mon Sep 27 12:22:33 1999
From: jestercm at chatfamily.com (David Narayan)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] error?
In-Reply-To: <01d501bf08fa$ccf64100$459abcca@jaring.my>
References: 01d501bf08fa$ccf64100$459abcca@jaring.my
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.3.96.990927152056.2873A&#45;100000@ns

You need to use info ALL instead of just
info.

/chanserv info #services all

This shows expiration status, entrymsg, successor, etc.

-----
David Narayan
Server Administrator
http://www.chatfamily.com

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Lim Cheng Siong wrote:

> [23:11:] -ChanServ- Channel #services will not expire.
> -
> 
> [23:11:] -> *chanserv* info #services
> [23:11:] -ChanServ- Information for channel #services:
> [23:11:] -ChanServ-         Founder: pagan (admin@j29.jhb32.jaring.my)
> [23:11:] -ChanServ-     Description: Services
> [23:11:] -ChanServ-      Registered: Sep 27 10:10:04 1999 CDT
> [23:11:] -ChanServ-       Last used: Sep 27 10:11:33 1999 CDT
> [23:11:] -ChanServ-      Last topic: Services Channel...
> [23:11:] -ChanServ-    Topic set by: pagan
> [23:11:] -ChanServ-         Options: Topic Retention, Secure
> [23:11:] -ChanServ-       Mode lock: +nt
> 
> Why it wouldn't show that the channel won't expire like what it show on a
> nick?
> 
> [23:11:] -NickServ- pagan is Where there is a will, there is a way!
> -
> [23:11:] -NickServ- pagan is currently online.
> -
> [23:11:] -NickServ-   Time registered: Sep 27 10:09:16 1999 CDT
> -
> [23:11:] -NickServ-           Options: Security
> -
> [23:11:] -NickServ- This nickname will not expire.
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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Mon Sep 27 12:55:59 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Re: ChanServ JOIN
In-Reply-To: <002401bf0901$5386be60$0959ebd0@orion.qx.net>
References: 002401bf0901$5386be60$0959ebd0@orion.qx.net
Message-ID: 000501bf0922$5218d380$0100a8c0@shadow

I, personally, have no plans to code this into IRC Services. Many of the
reasons why I will not code it have been outlined by Andy Church in the FAQ.
In addition to those, there would have to be a lot of checking done by the
code to see if ChanServ can join a channel or not, if it has been kicked,
banned etc - it's not as simple as just sending a join command and then
forgetting about things.

I still do not believe it is a worthwhile addition. If, one day, I am really
bored and lacking in ideas, I may consider it. But definately not now.

Regards, Andrew

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of Scott
> Seufert
> Sent: 27 September 1999 18:00
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: [IRCServices] Re: ChanServ JOIN
>
>
> Is there any plans to introducing the JOIN or set JOIN command into
> ChanServ?
>
> so that a channel founder could send:
>
> /msg ChanServ Set #channel JOIN on
>
> and make ChanServ join and stay in channel? I've seen this done in a
> different set of IRC services. I liked the Idea to be honest, this could
> also be be globally turned on/off via services.conf for those
> that wish not
> to use it. IMO this feature would cut down on the number of client bots.
>
>
>
> Scott Seufert
> aka katsklaw
> Network Admin
> irc.flamebait.org
>
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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Mon Sep 27 13:12:28 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Link bug.
In-Reply-To: <003101bf0901$addfb600$0959ebd0@orion.qx.net>
References: 003101bf0901$addfb600$0959ebd0@orion.qx.net
Message-ID: 000601bf0924$9f2ea490$0100a8c0@shadow

I'd like to add to this.

If you modify the IRC Services code and suddenly everything stops working,
please revert to the original code. If that still gives you problems, then
try the latest official version of IRC Services. If you still have problems
with those, then your bug reports are more than welcome.

Jozenobio de Melo Brasil, you have modified the source code and suddenly
seem to be having a multitude of problems - problems that just aren't
happening with the original code.

Everyone, please only report bugs that you can reproduce on the latest,
offical, release of IRC Services.

Lastly, please see the README and FAQ for details about reporting bugs amd
the information to include. (I think the FAQ still refers to Andy's email
address for sending bug reports to. Please use this mailing list, or my
email address, theshadow@shadowfire.org, instead.)

Many thanks,

Andrew

        -- Official stuff follows...
                IRC Services List Master

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of Scott
> Seufert
> Sent: 27 September 1999 18:02
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Link bug.
>
>
> I don't know about anyone else on this list ... however I think
> it would be
> nice if people would include the version of services that they are using
> when posting bugs.... I have tried to reproduce several bugs posted and
> could not duplicate the bug.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jozenobio de Melo Brasil <jozeph@globalmedia.com.br>
> To: Scott Seufert <scotts@flamebait.org>
> Cc: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
> Date: Monday, September 27, 1999 11:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Link bug.
>
>
> > Something else I forgot to add about this ... if your host mask
> is listed
> in
> > the access list for NickServ ... NS shouldn't challenge you for
> a password
> > either.
>
> My access list is null...
>
>
> >
> > ----------
> > >From: Jozenobio de Melo Brasil <jozeph@globalmedia.com.br>
> > >To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> > >Subject: [IRCServices] Link bug.
> > >Date: Sun, Sep 26, 1999, 11:18 PM
> > >
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I found another one bug on link, we go there:
> > >
> > >  When you register a nick AA, and register a nick BB...
> > > and link nick BB to nick AA... enters in the IRC with AA
> > >  nick and later changes for nick BB... the NickServ does not
> ask for you
> > > to modify nick!
> > >
> > >  Change or I disconnect you... :>
> > >  I will work to fix it... bye
> > >
> > > Greats,
> > > Jozeph
> > >
> > > --
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >  \|/ --- \|/   | Jozenóbio de Melo Brasil.
> > >   @~/ Oo \~@   | jozeph@globalmedia.com.br
> > >  /_( \__/ )_\  | <A  HREF="http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph">http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph</A>
> > >     \__U_/     | " Onde a maioria vive com a bondade,
> > >                |  a maldade da minoria tende sempre a desaparecer! "
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > The box said "Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0, or better", so I installed
> > > Linux.
> > >
> >
> Scott Seufert
> aka katsklaw
> Network Admin
> irc.flamebait.org
>
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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Mon Sep 27 13:20:42 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] error?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.990927152056.2873A-100000@ns>
References: Pine.LNX.3.96.990927152056.2873A&#45;100000@ns
Message-ID: 000a01bf0925$c5a29630$0100a8c0@shadow

NickServ shouldn't actually show the "This nickname will not expire."
without the ALL parameter. ChanServ is actually the one that works in the
correct way. This will be fixed in the next release.

Andrew

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of David
> Narayan
> Sent: 27 September 1999 21:23
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] error?
>
>
> You need to use info ALL instead of just
> info.
>
> /chanserv info #services all
>
> This shows expiration status, entrymsg, successor, etc.
>
> -----
> David Narayan
> Server Administrator
> <A  HREF="http://www.chatfamily.com">http://www.chatfamily.com</A>
>
> On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Lim Cheng Siong wrote:
>
> > [23:11:] -ChanServ- Channel #services will not expire.
> > -
> >
> > [23:11:] -> *chanserv* info #services
> > [23:11:] -ChanServ- Information for channel #services:
> > [23:11:] -ChanServ-         Founder: pagan (admin@j29.jhb32.jaring.my)
> > [23:11:] -ChanServ-     Description: Services
> > [23:11:] -ChanServ-      Registered: Sep 27 10:10:04 1999 CDT
> > [23:11:] -ChanServ-       Last used: Sep 27 10:11:33 1999 CDT
> > [23:11:] -ChanServ-      Last topic: Services Channel...
> > [23:11:] -ChanServ-    Topic set by: pagan
> > [23:11:] -ChanServ-         Options: Topic Retention, Secure
> > [23:11:] -ChanServ-       Mode lock: +nt
> >
> > Why it wouldn't show that the channel won't expire like what it
> show on a
> > nick?
> >
> > [23:11:] -NickServ- pagan is Where there is a will, there is a way!
> > -
> > [23:11:] -NickServ- pagan is currently online.
> > -
> > [23:11:] -NickServ-   Time registered: Sep 27 10:09:16 1999 CDT
> > -
> > [23:11:] -NickServ-           Options: Security
> > -
> > [23:11:] -NickServ- This nickname will not expire.
> >
>
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From jozeph at globalmedia.com.br  Mon Sep 27 13:46:54 1999
From: jozeph at globalmedia.com.br (Jozenobio de Melo Brasil)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Re: ChanServ JOIN
In-Reply-To: <002401bf0901$5386be60$0959ebd0@orion.qx.net>
References: 002401bf0901$5386be60$0959ebd0@orion.qx.net
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.00.9909271745320.20733&#45;100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br

Hello,

        I have implemented this command on my services! :)

-ChanServ- Syntax: SET channel JOIN {ON | OFF}
-ChanServ-
-ChanServ- Enables or disables ChanServ's join features for a
-ChanServ- channel.


> Is there any plans to introducing the JOIN or set JOIN command into
> ChanServ?
> 
> so that a channel founder could send:
> 
> /msg ChanServ Set #channel JOIN on
> 
> and make ChanServ join and stay in channel? I've seen this done in a
> different set of IRC services. I liked the Idea to be honest, this could
> also be be globally turned on/off via services.conf for those that wish not
> to use it. IMO this feature would cut down on the number of client bots.
> 
> 
> 
> Scott Seufert
> aka katsklaw
> Network Admin
> irc.flamebait.org
> 
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From jozeph at globalmedia.com.br  Mon Sep 27 13:48:40 1999
From: jozeph at globalmedia.com.br (Jozenobio de Melo Brasil)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Link bug.
In-Reply-To: <003101bf0901$addfb600$0959ebd0@orion.qx.net>
References: 003101bf0901$addfb600$0959ebd0@orion.qx.net
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.00.9909271748010.20733&#45;100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br

Hi,

        Anyone know about fix this?

--
--------------------------------------------------------------------
 \|/ --- \|/   | Jozenóbio de Melo Brasil.
  @~/ Oo \~@   | jozeph@globalmedia.com.br
 /_( \__/ )_\  | http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph
    \__U_/     | " Onde a maioria vive com a bondade,
               |  a maldade da minoria tende sempre a desaparecer! "
--------------------------------------------------------------------
The box said "Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0, or better", so I installed
Linux.

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Scott Seufert wrote:

> I don't know about anyone else on this list ... however I think it would be
> nice if people would include the version of services that they are using
> when posting bugs.... I have tried to reproduce several bugs posted and
> could not duplicate the bug.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jozenobio de Melo Brasil <jozeph@globalmedia.com.br>
> To: Scott Seufert <scotts@flamebait.org>
> Cc: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
> Date: Monday, September 27, 1999 11:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Link bug.
> 
> 
> > Something else I forgot to add about this ... if your host mask is listed
> in
> > the access list for NickServ ... NS shouldn't challenge you for a password
> > either.
> 
> My access list is null...
> 
> 
> >
> > ----------
> > >From: Jozenobio de Melo Brasil <jozeph@globalmedia.com.br>
> > >To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> > >Subject: [IRCServices] Link bug.
> > >Date: Sun, Sep 26, 1999, 11:18 PM
> > >
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I found another one bug on link, we go there:
> > >
> > >  When you register a nick AA, and register a nick BB...
> > > and link nick BB to nick AA... enters in the IRC with AA
> > >  nick and later changes for nick BB... the NickServ does not ask for you
> > > to modify nick!
> > >
> > >  Change or I disconnect you... :>
> > >  I will work to fix it... bye
> > >
> > > Greats,
> > > Jozeph
> > >
> > > --
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >  \|/ --- \|/   | Jozenóbio de Melo Brasil.
> > >   @~/ Oo \~@   | jozeph@globalmedia.com.br
> > >  /_( \__/ )_\  | <A  HREF="http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph">http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph</A>
> > >     \__U_/     | " Onde a maioria vive com a bondade,
> > >                |  a maldade da minoria tende sempre a desaparecer! "
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > The box said "Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0, or better", so I installed
> > > Linux.
> > >
> >
> Scott Seufert
> aka katsklaw
> Network Admin
> irc.flamebait.org
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From dreamer at darkness.gr  Mon Sep 27 14:14:01 1999
From: dreamer at darkness.gr (Nick Krassas)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Greetings
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.10.9909272355220.30585&#45;100000@darkness.darkness.gr

Talking about the "Chanserv JOIN " topic 
The main problem in putting a service in a channel is the load that you
are putting in that service. Try just /msg operserv raw :ChanServ join
#test and set the services in debug mode. Check the log file to see that
this service is receiving every message that is going at #test. 



Dinos


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From jozeph at globalmedia.com.br  Mon Sep 27 14:21:10 1999
From: jozeph at globalmedia.com.br (Jozenobio de Melo Brasil)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Link bug.
In-Reply-To: <000601bf0924$9f2ea490$0100a8c0@shadow>
References: 000601bf0924$9f2ea490$0100a8c0@shadow
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.00.9909271819110.23427&#45;100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br

Hello all,

        But Andrew, this is an bug on OFFICIAL services version...

        Type: irc _Jozeph_ ender.shadowfire.org

        Next, change nick to |TWiSTER|

        |TWiSTER| has link with _Jozeph_

Thanks,
No more...

--
--------------------------------------------------------------------
 \|/ --- \|/   | Jozenóbio de Melo Brasil.
  @~/ Oo \~@   | jozeph@globalmedia.com.br
 /_( \__/ )_\  | http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph
    \__U_/     | " Onde a maioria vive com a bondade,
               |  a maldade da minoria tende sempre a desaparecer! "
--------------------------------------------------------------------
The box said "Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0, or better", so I installed
Linux.

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Andrew Kempe wrote:

> I'd like to add to this.
> 
> If you modify the IRC Services code and suddenly everything stops working,
> please revert to the original code. If that still gives you problems, then
> try the latest official version of IRC Services. If you still have problems
> with those, then your bug reports are more than welcome.
> 
> Jozenobio de Melo Brasil, you have modified the source code and suddenly
> seem to be having a multitude of problems - problems that just aren't
> happening with the original code.
> 
> Everyone, please only report bugs that you can reproduce on the latest,
> offical, release of IRC Services.
> 
> Lastly, please see the README and FAQ for details about reporting bugs amd
> the information to include. (I think the FAQ still refers to Andy's email
> address for sending bug reports to. Please use this mailing list, or my
> email address, theshadow@shadowfire.org, instead.)
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Andrew
> 
>       -- Official stuff follows...
>               IRC Services List Master
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> > [<A  HREF="mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On">mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On</A> Behalf Of Scott
> > Seufert
> > Sent: 27 September 1999 18:02
> > To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> > Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Link bug.
> >
> >
> > I don't know about anyone else on this list ... however I think
> > it would be
> > nice if people would include the version of services that they are using
> > when posting bugs.... I have tried to reproduce several bugs posted and
> > could not duplicate the bug.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jozenobio de Melo Brasil <jozeph@globalmedia.com.br>
> > To: Scott Seufert <scotts@flamebait.org>
> > Cc: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
> > Date: Monday, September 27, 1999 11:53 AM
> > Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Link bug.
> >
> >
> > > Something else I forgot to add about this ... if your host mask
> > is listed
> > in
> > > the access list for NickServ ... NS shouldn't challenge you for
> > a password
> > > either.
> >
> > My access list is null...
> >
> >
> > >
> > > ----------
> > > >From: Jozenobio de Melo Brasil <jozeph@globalmedia.com.br>
> > > >To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> > > >Subject: [IRCServices] Link bug.
> > > >Date: Sun, Sep 26, 1999, 11:18 PM
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I found another one bug on link, we go there:
> > > >
> > > >  When you register a nick AA, and register a nick BB...
> > > > and link nick BB to nick AA... enters in the IRC with AA
> > > >  nick and later changes for nick BB... the NickServ does not
> > ask for you
> > > > to modify nick!
> > > >
> > > >  Change or I disconnect you... :>
> > > >  I will work to fix it... bye
> > > >
> > > > Greats,
> > > > Jozeph
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >  \|/ --- \|/   | Jozenóbio de Melo Brasil.
> > > >   @~/ Oo \~@   | jozeph@globalmedia.com.br
> > > >  /_( \__/ )_\  | <A  HREF="http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph">http://www.globalmedia.com.br/jozeph</A>
> > > >     \__U_/     | " Onde a maioria vive com a bondade,
> > > >                |  a maldade da minoria tende sempre a desaparecer! "
> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > The box said "Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0, or better", so I installed
> > > > Linux.
> > > >
> > >
> > Scott Seufert
> > aka katsklaw
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From mbutler at nbnet.nb.ca  Sun Sep 26 14:22:33 1999
From: mbutler at nbnet.nb.ca (Martin Butler)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Greetings
References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9909272355220.30585-100000@darkness.darkness.gr>
Message-ID: 003f01bf0865$40bcd720$1e6dfea9@ibm

Just put the "deaf" mode to ChanServ (+d)

Martin Butler
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Nick Krassas <dreamer@darkness.gr>
To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 6:14 PM
Subject: [IRCServices] Greetings


> Talking about the "Chanserv JOIN " topic 
> The main problem in putting a service in a channel is the load that you
> are putting in that service. Try just /msg operserv raw :ChanServ join
> #test and set the services in debug mode. Check the log file to see that
> this service is receiving every message that is going at #test. 
> 
> 
> 
> Dinos
> 
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From natey at capetown.za.org  Mon Sep 27 12:18:24 1999
From: natey at capetown.za.org (Natey on IRC)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] JOIN 0 subject
In-Reply-To: <199909231146.HAA08123@mailfw3.ford.com>
References: 199909231146.HAA08123@mailfw3.ford.com
Message-ID: 3.0.5.32.19990927211824.0088c2f0@capetown.za.org

At 07:46 AM 23/09/99 -0400, you wrote:
>I would like to know if there is any intention to implement TOKEN protocol
>on services, since most of dalnet based ircd's support TOKEN protocol
>reducing network bandwidth usage.
>
Something you may be interested in from one of the Sorcery.Net IRC Network
mailing lists that was posted last year:

<quote>
Scheme 1 - Command Tokenization (currently implemented by DALnet)

The entire msgtab is represented in server<->server communication as a
single letter, ie. each command is stripped down to a single byte. See
include/struct.h and include/msg.h for more details, you'll get the
picture. Tokens are translated to commands and vice versa.
Unfortunately, due to the way things work, this isn't done during a
resynch burst, which is where things would be most valuable.

Scheme 2 - Name Tokenization (currently implemented by Undernet)

Every single nick and servername is encoded using base64 (or
something... I'm not too clear on the details). This turns
"cookie.sorcery.net" into "1423" or whatever number cookie has been
assigned. Servers are assigned these numbers on connect, I'm not sure
how the nick side of things works. It's supposed to have cut down Unet's
bandwidth usage by 30%.
</quote>

The other thing is this TS3 timestamping that Bahamut (DALnet's new ircd)
uses and services is using TSpre or something like that.

Services currently "cores" bahamut servers as the timestamps are quite
different.

Regards
Natey

>Another thing I would like to know is any ideas how to implement services
>registration/query from a web page, I know some networks support this, what
>do you think with be the best way to do this, via a services BOT getting
>messages from a Java applet connected to the IRC network or by coding a
>socket listener directly on services to manage this. I don't have to many
>experience on this, so please if someone have some ideas or some code about
>his I would appreciate that.

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From jestercm at chatfamily.com  Mon Sep 27 15:54:47 1999
From: jestercm at chatfamily.com (David Narayan)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Greetings
In-Reply-To: <003f01bf0865$40bcd720$1e6dfea9@ibm>
References: 003f01bf0865$40bcd720$1e6dfea9@ibm
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.3.96.990927185342.9822A&#45;100000@ns

Not all ircd's support umode +d. This is a feature
implemented by the UnderNet ircd.

-----
David Narayan
Server Administrator
http://www.chatfamily.com

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, Martin Butler wrote:

> Just put the "deaf" mode to ChanServ (+d)
> 
> Martin Butler
<snip>

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From scotts at flamebait.org  Mon Sep 27 22:20:10 1999
From: scotts at flamebait.org (Scott Seufert)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Greetings
Message-ID: 19990928022216656.AAA86@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.17]

ircu is not the only daemon that supports umode +d. 

Sence it is not the intention of the author to implement chanserv join at
this time, is there anyone that has or could create a stable patch to do so?
.. thnx ;)

----------
>From: David Narayan <jestercm@chatfamily.com>
>To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
>Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Greetings
>Date: Mon, Sep 27, 1999, 3:54 PM
>

> Not all ircd's support umode +d. This is a feature
> implemented by the UnderNet ircd.
>
> -----
> David Narayan
> Server Administrator
> http://www.chatfamily.com
>
> On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, Martin Butler wrote:
>
>> Just put the "deaf" mode to ChanServ (+d)
>>
>> Martin Butler
> <snip>
>


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From jpinto9 at visteon.com  Tue Sep 28 00:26:12 1999
From: jpinto9 at visteon.com (Pinto, Joao Luis (J.))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Greetings
Message-ID: 199909280726.DAA18829@mailfw1.ford.com

Even umode +d, I didn't look is implementation but I think the filtering of
messages would is made locally, so services as a server will always receive
the message.
 

João Luís Marques Pinto
PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
http://www.PTlink.net  



-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Seufert [<A  HREF="mailto:scotts@flamebait.org">mailto:scotts@flamebait.org</A>]
Sent: terça-feira, 28 de setembro de 1999 6:20
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Greetings


ircu is not the only daemon that supports umode +d. 

Sence it is not the intention of the author to implement chanserv join at
this time, is there anyone that has or could create a stable patch to do so?
.. thnx ;)

----------
>From: David Narayan <jestercm@chatfamily.com>
>To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
>Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Greetings
>Date: Mon, Sep 27, 1999, 3:54 PM
>

> Not all ircd's support umode +d. This is a feature
> implemented by the UnderNet ircd.
>
> -----
> David Narayan
> Server Administrator
> <A  HREF="http://www.chatfamily.com">http://www.chatfamily.com</A>
>
> On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, Martin Butler wrote:
>
>> Just put the "deaf" mode to ChanServ (+d)
>>
>> Martin Butler
> <snip>
>


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From scotts at flamebait.org  Tue Sep 28 08:16:03 1999
From: scotts at flamebait.org (Scott Seufert)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Greetings
Message-ID: 19990928121810779.AAA386@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.17]


 UnderNet style bots handle this task daily, and on much larger networks.
CServe/Uworld written by Deven just a few short years ago use umode +d. K9
from ChatNet isn't blind to channel traffic, X/W from UnderNet work just
fine, OtherNet bot (a spin off of Deven's bots) also use umode +d. Each of
these networks have thousands of users.

----------
>From: "Pinto, Joao Luis (J.)" <jpinto9@visteon.com>
>To: "'ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org'" <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
>Subject: RE: [IRCServices] Greetings
>Date: Tue, Sep 28, 1999, 12:26 AM
>

> Even umode +d, I didn't look is implementation but I think the filtering of
> messages would is made locally, so services as a server will always receive
> the message.
>
>
> João Luís Marques Pinto
> PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
> http://www.PTlink.net
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Seufert [<A  HREF="mailto:scotts@flamebait.org">mailto:scotts@flamebait.org</A>]
> Sent: terça-feira, 28 de setembro de 1999 6:20
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Greetings
>
>
> ircu is not the only daemon that supports umode +d.
>
> Sence it is not the intention of the author to implement chanserv join at
> this time, is there anyone that has or could create a stable patch to do so?
> .. thnx ;)
>
> ----------
>>From: David Narayan <jestercm@chatfamily.com>
>>To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
>>Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Greetings
>>Date: Mon, Sep 27, 1999, 3:54 PM
>>
>
>> Not all ircd's support umode +d. This is a feature
>> implemented by the UnderNet ircd.
>>
>> -----
>> David Narayan
>> Server Administrator
>> <A  HREF="http://www.chatfamily.com">http://www.chatfamily.com</A>
>>
>> On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, Martin Butler wrote:
>>
>>> Just put the "deaf" mode to ChanServ (+d)
>>>
>>> Martin Butler
>> <snip>
>>
>
>
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aka katsklaw
Network Admin
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From kieran_spain at eol.ieaust.org.au  Tue Sep 28 06:53:52 1999
From: kieran_spain at eol.ieaust.org.au (Kieran Spain)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Greetings
Message-ID: fc.000f54ac001b8c1e3b9aca00de665ae1.1b8c28@eol.ieaust.org.au


One of the real problems is the fact that it will lag the network.  The
services are connected to a server (Server A), so if the services join a
channel made on a different server (Server B). Then, every message the
services recieve in #channel are all sent to server A.  If the services
were to do this on an average size network with a few more channels..

anyway... you should get what I'm saying.

Regards,
Kieran Spain

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From reka at reka.org  Tue Sep 28 08:20:54 1999
From: reka at reka.org (Martin Holm)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Greetings
In-Reply-To: <fc.000f54ac001b8c1e3b9aca00de665ae1.1b8c28@eol.ieaust.org.au>
References: fc.000f54ac001b8c1e3b9aca00de665ae1.1b8c28@eol.ieaust.org.au
Message-ID: 4.1.19990928171946.01882940@reka.org


That would not be a big deal if the server services are connected to, is on
a local network.


At 23:53 28.09.99 +1000, Kieran Spain wrote:
>
>One of the real problems is the fact that it will lag the network.  The
>services are connected to a server (Server A), so if the services join a
>channel made on a different server (Server B). Then, every message the
>services recieve in #channel are all sent to server A.  If the services
>were to do this on an average size network with a few more channels..


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From scotts at flamebait.org  Tue Sep 28 19:28:29 1999
From: scotts at flamebait.org (Scott Seufert)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Greetings
Message-ID: 19990928233035228.AAA329@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.17]


 

I don't see how services joining a channel would be any different than a
client joining the same channel.

----------
>From: kieran_spain@eol.ieaust.org.au (Kieran Spain)
>To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
>Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Greetings
>Date: Tue, Sep 28, 1999, 6:53 AM
>

>
> One of the real problems is the fact that it will lag the network.  The
> services are connected to a server (Server A), so if the services join a
> channel made on a different server (Server B). Then, every message the
> services recieve in #channel are all sent to server A.  If the services
> were to do this on an average size network with a few more channels..
>
> anyway... you should get what I'm saying.
>
> Regards,
> Kieran Spain
>
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From kieran_spain at eol.ieaust.org.au  Tue Sep 28 23:51:42 1999
From: kieran_spain at eol.ieaust.org.au (Kieran Spain)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: Re(2): [IRCServices] Greetings
Message-ID: fc.000f54ac001b96ef3b9aca00f4429c62.1b96f5@eol.ieaust.org.au

The difference is that a user will join about 10 channels at the maximum
(depending on the limit in the ircd).  however, services will join ALL
channels which will mean that 1 server is recieving EVERYTHING on the
entire network.  Which makes the network transfer a LOT higher.  First the
data goes from the user to the channel the services are in, then to the
server hosting the services, then to the services themselves... this would
happen with data from every single channel on the network if the services
were to join.

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From jpinto9 at visteon.com  Wed Sep 29 00:00:35 1999
From: jpinto9 at visteon.com (Pinto, Joao Luis (J.))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Greetings
Message-ID: 199909290700.DAA24098@mailfw1.ford.com

I thought the idea was to make ChanServ join the channel even when the
channel has no other clients, in this case that would load all network
ircd's.

João Luís Marques Pinto
PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
http://www.PTlink.net  


-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Seufert [<A  HREF="mailto:scotts@flamebait.org">mailto:scotts@flamebait.org</A>]
Sent: quarta-feira, 29 de setembro de 1999 3:28
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Greetings



 

I don't see how services joining a channel would be any different than a
client joining the same channel.

----------
>From: kieran_spain@eol.ieaust.org.au (Kieran Spain)
>To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
>Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Greetings
>Date: Tue, Sep 28, 1999, 6:53 AM
>

>
> One of the real problems is the fact that it will lag the network.  The
> services are connected to a server (Server A), so if the services join a
> channel made on a different server (Server B). Then, every message the
> services recieve in #channel are all sent to server A.  If the services
> were to do this on an average size network with a few more channels..
>
> anyway... you should get what I'm saying.
>
> Regards,
> Kieran Spain
>
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From scotts at flamebait.org  Wed Sep 29 08:38:02 1999
From: scotts at flamebait.org (Scott Seufert)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: Re(2): [IRCServices] Greetings
Message-ID: 19990929124008290.AAA340@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.17]


 

This can be reduced by umode +d as discussed a few days ago. Granted, not
all daemons do umode +d, but there are enough that do. I never said that the
load would be the same as without services in channel, of course it'll eat
resources. As far as the server that services is connected to, it will still
have a higher load than the others because whether services is present in
channel or not it still sends services data back and forth to the rest of
the net, so with services "deaf" to channel traffic and the fact the traffic
to and from services still goes through the server services is connected to
... the load wouldn't be as high as you are indicating. The increase in
resources would placed on services alone. IMO, anyone that runs services on
a slow computer is begging for lag to start with ;P

----------
>From: kieran_spain@eol.ieaust.org.au (Kieran Spain)
>To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
>Subject: Re(2): [IRCServices] Greetings
>Date: Tue, Sep 28, 1999, 11:51 PM
>

> The difference is that a user will join about 10 channels at the maximum
> (depending on the limit in the ircd).  however, services will join ALL
> channels which will mean that 1 server is recieving EVERYTHING on the
> entire network.  Which makes the network transfer a LOT higher.  First the
> data goes from the user to the channel the services are in, then to the
> server hosting the services, then to the services themselves... this would
> happen with data from every single channel on the network if the services
> were to join.
>

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From scotts at flamebait.org  Wed Sep 29 08:43:35 1999
From: scotts at flamebait.org (Scott Seufert)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Modules
Message-ID: 19990929124542000.AAA314@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.17]

Crazy question, is it possible at this point to use a module/add-on type 
configuration with services or would services need to be re-written some?


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From achurch at dragonfire.net  Wed Sep 29 22:51:24 1999
From: achurch at dragonfire.net (Andrew Church)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] New IRC protocol revised
Message-ID: 37f21a2b.00414@dragonfire.net

     I've revised my new IRC protocol definition again; the URL is (still)
http://achurch.dragonfire.net/irc3/ .  Comments are welcome, appreciated,
and in fact longed for. (:  There's still one big unresolved point dealing
with cyclic networks, but I'm thinking of submitting it as an Internet
Draft in the near future anyway, just to see what kind of feedback I get.

     Incidentally, I seem to recall someone on this list saying they were
working on developing a server using this new protocol.  Are you out there
somewhere or is it just my wishful thinking acting up again?

  --Andrew Church
    achurch@dragonfire.net
    <A  HREF="http://achurch.dragonfire.net/">http://achurch.dragonfire.net/</A>
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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Wed Sep 29 08:03:58 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: Re(2): [IRCServices] Greetings
In-Reply-To: <19990929124008290.AAA340@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.17]>
References: 19990929124008290.AAA340@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.17]
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.3.96.990929165920.687A&#45;100000@shell.icon.co.za

This reply is directed at the thread in general... rather than one
specific posting...

I estimate that there will be atleast 10 times as much data going to the
Services server when ChanServ is in all the channels on a network. I would
expect this to increase, more than proportionally, with the size of the
network.

Afaik, only ircu based ircds support +d - but I'm open to correction.

Andrew 

On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Scott Seufert wrote:

> 
>  
> 
> This can be reduced by umode +d as discussed a few days ago. Granted, not
> all daemons do umode +d, but there are enough that do. I never said that the
> load would be the same as without services in channel, of course it'll eat
> resources. As far as the server that services is connected to, it will still
> have a higher load than the others because whether services is present in
> channel or not it still sends services data back and forth to the rest of
> the net, so with services "deaf" to channel traffic and the fact the traffic
> to and from services still goes through the server services is connected to
> ... the load wouldn't be as high as you are indicating. The increase in
> resources would placed on services alone. IMO, anyone that runs services on
> a slow computer is begging for lag to start with ;P
> 
> ----------
> >From: kieran_spain@eol.ieaust.org.au (Kieran Spain)
> >To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> >Subject: Re(2): [IRCServices] Greetings
> >Date: Tue, Sep 28, 1999, 11:51 PM
> >
> 
> > The difference is that a user will join about 10 channels at the maximum
> > (depending on the limit in the ircd).  however, services will join ALL
> > channels which will mean that 1 server is recieving EVERYTHING on the
> > entire network.  Which makes the network transfer a LOT higher.  First the
> > data goes from the user to the channel the services are in, then to the
> > server hosting the services, then to the services themselves... this would
> > happen with data from every single channel on the network if the services
> > were to join.
> >
> 
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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Wed Sep 29 08:09:22 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Modules
In-Reply-To: <19990929124542000.AAA314@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.17]>
References: 19990929124542000.AAA314@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.17]
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.3.96.990929170416.687B&#45;100000@shell.icon.co.za

Point me in the direction of some example code and some documentation and
I'm more than willing to attempt to provide this type of support.

I've been toying with the idea of modules for a while now - mainly due to
the number of requests for specific addtions to Services. By having module
support, DALnet specific enhancements, detailed statistics etc would be
easier to implement. Currently Services is modular in the sense of #define
blocks :)

Andrew

On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Scott Seufert wrote:

> Crazy question, is it possible at this point to use a module/add-on type 
> configuration with services or would services need to be re-written some?
> 
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From scotts at flamebait.org  Wed Sep 29 19:50:06 1999
From: scotts at flamebait.org (Scott Seufert)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Greetings
Message-ID: 19990929235213061.AAA416@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.17]


----------
>From: Andrew Kempe <andrewk@icon.co.za>
>To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
>Subject: Re: Re(2): [IRCServices] Greetings
>Date: Wed, Sep 29, 1999, 8:03 AM
>

> This reply is directed at the thread in general... rather than one
> specific posting...
>
> I estimate that there will be atleast 10 times as much data going to the
> Services server when ChanServ is in all the channels on a network. I would
> expect this to increase, more than proportionally, with the size of the
> network.
>
> Afaik, only ircu based ircds support +d - but I'm open to correction.
>
> Andrew
>
> On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Scott Seufert wrote:
>


Bahamut supports umode +d,
2.8/hybrid-6b106 does
ircu does


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From v13 at it.teithe.gr  Wed Sep 29 16:55:43 1999
From: v13 at it.teithe.gr (Harhalakis Stefanos)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: Re(2): [IRCServices] Greetings
In-Reply-To: <fc.000f54ac001b96ef3b9aca00f4429c62.1b96f5@eol.ieaust.org.au>
References: fc.000f54ac001b96ef3b9aca00f4429c62.1b96f5@eol.ieaust.org.au
Message-ID: Pine.SGI.4.05.9909300243590.9669&#45;100000@aetos.it.teithe.gr

 I'm not sure about this.. but how services process part/joins from/to a
channel without getting the channel traffic? They get only part/join
messages, topic changes, and mode changes and not anything else?

<<V13>>

On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Kieran Spain wrote:

> The difference is that a user will join about 10 channels at the maximum
> (depending on the limit in the ircd).  however, services will join ALL
> channels which will mean that 1 server is recieving EVERYTHING on the
> entire network.  Which makes the network transfer a LOT higher.  First the
> data goes from the user to the channel the services are in, then to the
> server hosting the services, then to the services themselves... this would
> happen with data from every single channel on the network if the services
> were to join.
> 
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From jpinto9 at visteon.com  Thu Sep 30 00:42:18 1999
From: jpinto9 at visteon.com (Pinto, Joao Luis (J.))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: Re(2): [IRCServices] Greetings
Message-ID: 199909300742.DAA18142@mailfw2.ford.com

Withou users on a channel, the services will receive only the inter-server
messages:
        JOIN,PART,MODE,TOPIC,USER,AWAY,NICK,KILL,AKILL(other ircd dependent
like GLINE's, NEWHOST's...)
with user on the channel(like chanserv), services server would receive all
privmsg's.

João Luís Marques Pinto
PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
http://www.PTlink.net  


-----Original Message-----
From: Harhalakis Stefanos [<A  HREF="mailto:v13@it.teithe.gr">mailto:v13@it.teithe.gr</A>]
Sent: quinta-feira, 30 de setembro de 1999 0:56
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: Re: Re(2): [IRCServices] Greetings


 I'm not sure about this.. but how services process part/joins from/to a
channel without getting the channel traffic? They get only part/join
messages, topic changes, and mode changes and not anything else?

<<V13>>

On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Kieran Spain wrote:

> The difference is that a user will join about 10 channels at the maximum
> (depending on the limit in the ircd).  however, services will join ALL
> channels which will mean that 1 server is recieving EVERYTHING on the
> entire network.  Which makes the network transfer a LOT higher.  First the
> data goes from the user to the channel the services are in, then to the
> server hosting the services, then to the services themselves... this would
> happen with data from every single channel on the network if the services
> were to join.
> 
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From uhc0 at rz.uni-karlsruhe.de  Thu Sep 30 06:27:44 1999
From: uhc0 at rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Yusuf Iskenderoglu)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] umode +d !
In-Reply-To: <19990929235213061.AAA416@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.17]>
References: 19990929235213061.AAA416@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.17]
Message-ID: NDBBKLOOKLMAKHFICBLCMEBECBAA.uhc0@rz.uni&#45;karlsruhe.de


Hello, 

To the umode problem : 
There is ONLY ircu supporting the usermode +d to be interpreted as +deaf.
The umode +d of Hybrid, therefore also of Bahamut means +debug
and NOT +deaf, therefore, on Bahamut, services clients would of course 
receive PRIVMSG's sent to a channel.

Additionally, Services is not at the moment compatible with Bahamut,
nor you can make it work with Hybrid.

AND

I personally read the conversation about services trying to join a channel, or even joining a channel,
But I did not yet tell my opinion about it.
In order to let ChanServ act as a Channel Bot, you do not need it join a channel.
Because as services is Ulined, it has enough power to control, even not being in a channel.
The PRIVMSG traffic services will receive, if any client of it joins a channel is therefore 
completely unnecessary.

If there is a need of Bots, you have to use other software, specially designed to act as a bot.

Regards,
---------------------------------
Yusuf Iskenderoglu
ICQ : 20587464
eMail : uhc0@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
---------------------------------


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
[mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]Im Auftrag von Scott
Seufert
Gesendet: Thursday, September 30, 1999 4:50 AM
An: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Betreff: Re: [IRCServices] Greetings

Bahamut supports umode +d,
2.8/hybrid-6b106 does
ircu does

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From uhc0 at rz.uni-karlsruhe.de  Thu Sep 30 14:22:30 1999
From: uhc0 at rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Yusuf Iskenderoglu)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Channel Successor
Message-ID: NDBBKLOOKLMAKHFICBLCIEBOCBAA.uhc0@rz.uni&#45;karlsruhe.de


Hello, 

I had some questions about Channel Successor setting.
It is good to be able to set a successor for a channel, but
even though one might be set, the successor has no rights while
the founder's nickname persists.

I wanted to say, that e.g. the successor does not get autoopped, nor 
the successor can use other ChanServ commands.
This results in having to add the successor to the access list, but the founder's
nickname does not need to be in the access list.

What I am going to suggest is, to implement another level, an access level :
successor level.
Using this, the founder might use
/chanserv levels #channel set set successor
/chanserv levels #channel set clear successor
To enable several commands to the successor.

And, therefore the successor level should be a level between 9999 and founder. To 
ensure that the successor can use "normal" chanserv commands.

regards;

---------------------------------
Yusuf Iskenderoglu
eMail : uhc0@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
ICQ : 20587464
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From ianj at esper.net  Thu Sep 30 15:33:14 1999
From: ianj at esper.net (Ian R. Justman)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] New IRC protocol revised
In-Reply-To: <37f21a2b.00414@dragonfire.net>
References: 37f21a2b.00414@dragonfire.net
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.3.96.990930153202.23012O&#45;100000@vector.chocobo.org

On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Andrew Church wrote:

>      I've revised my new IRC protocol definition again; the URL is (still)
> http://achurch.dragonfire.net/irc3/ .  Comments are welcome, appreciated,
> and in fact longed for. (:  There's still one big unresolved point dealing
> with cyclic networks, but I'm thinking of submitting it as an Internet
> Draft in the near future anyway, just to see what kind of feedback I get.
> 
>      Incidentally, I seem to recall someone on this list saying they were
> working on developing a server using this new protocol.  Are you out there
> somewhere or is it just my wishful thinking acting up again?

Kelmar on EsperNet's already hard at work implementing this protocol.  In
fact, I just memoed him about this recent revision.

--Ian R. Justman, Co-Founder and Postmaster, The EsperNet IRC Network.

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From ianj at esper.net  Thu Sep 30 15:36:58 1999
From: ianj at esper.net (Ian R. Justman)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Modules
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.96.990929170416.687B-100000@shell.icon.co.za>
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On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Andrew Kempe wrote:

> Point me in the direction of some example code and some documentation and
> I'm more than willing to attempt to provide this type of support.
> 
> I've been toying with the idea of modules for a while now - mainly due to
> the number of requests for specific addtions to Services. By having module
> support, DALnet specific enhancements, detailed statistics etc would be
> easier to implement. Currently Services is modular in the sense of #define
> blocks :)

Listar and Apache (the latter being the most commonly-used program to use
this) use dynamically-loadable modules to extend their functionality. You
might look at the dl* calls, like in Linux's and Solaris' libdl.so;
FreeBSD has the dl functions built into their libc.

And if you come across a platform which does not support
dynamically-linkable modules or those whose dynamic support is either too
hairy or broken, you'd have to build otherwise-dynamic functions directly
into the services binary statically. 

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From gregk at netsport.org  Thu Sep 30 21:59:53 1999
From: gregk at netsport.org (Gregory L King)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] preventing global akicks
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.990930153329.23012P-100000@vector.chocobo.org>
References: Pine.LNX.3.96.990930153329.23012P&#45;100000@vector.chocobo.org
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Im having some trouble with malicious operators adding global akicks on
the channel list.  I want to prevent this, but other than adding a test
for every possible combination of global mask, is there an easier way?

I modified the chanserv.c code a little as follows...

if (!stricmp(mask, "*!*@*") || !stricmp(mask, "*@*") ||
!stricmp(mask,"*@**") || !stricmp(mask,"*@*.*")) {
                send_msg(s_ChanServ, u->nick, "Your akick mask is to
broad.");
                log("%s: %s tried to akick add %s on %s!", s_ChanServ,
u->nick,
                mask, chan);
                wallops(s_ChanServ, "%s tried to akick add %s on %s!",
u->nick,
                mask, chan);
                return;
        }

but, is there a better way to prevent a global ban (I know, tell the
founders to select better operators, but in the mean time?!)




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From scotts at flamebait.org  Fri Oct  1 01:34:36 1999
From: scotts at flamebait.org (Scott Seufert)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] preventing global akicks
Message-ID: 19991001053721600.AAA240@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.17]


 



----------
>From: Gregory L King <gregk@netsport.org>
>To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
>Subject: [IRCServices] preventing global akicks
>Date: Thu, Sep 30, 1999, 9:59 PM
>

> Im having some trouble with malicious operators adding global akicks on
> the channel list.  I want to prevent this, but other than adding a test
> for every possible combination of global mask, is there an easier way?
>
> I modified the chanserv.c code a little as follows...
>
> if (!stricmp(mask, "*!*@*") || !stricmp(mask, "*@*") ||
> !stricmp(mask,"*@**") || !stricmp(mask,"*@*.*")) {
>                 send_msg(s_ChanServ, u->nick, "Your akick mask is to
> broad.");
>                 log("%s: %s tried to akick add %s on %s!", s_ChanServ,
> u->nick,
>                 mask, chan);
>                 wallops(s_ChanServ, "%s tried to akick add %s on %s!",
> u->nick,
>                 mask, chan);
>                 return;
>         }
>
> but, is there a better way to prevent a global ban (I know, tell the
> founders to select better operators, but in the mean time?!)
>
>
>
>

Personally, I happen to believe in your last statement. Founders should pick
better operators. If a chanop or founder came to me about it I would either
tell them to rid of the op, teach the op better or don't ban *!*@*. I don't
see why it should be a services issue to police a ban on *!*@*.

However, preventing an AKILL is a different story, this creates a huge
problem. ALL network users are affected, which it becomes of a major
concern. Yes, if an oper on my net akilled *!*@* they would loose their
O:Line instantly.


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From jozeph at globalmedia.com.br  Fri Oct  1 06:34:30 1999
From: jozeph at globalmedia.com.br (Jozenobio de Melo Brasil)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] AKILL *@* Lame IRCops Protection.
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.00.9910011031290.5132&#45;100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br

Hi All,

        I has maked a good protection for services if lame ircops try
akill *@*... this protection can be used on akick too.

        Thanks all... :)

        /* Lame IRCops Protection by Jozeph'99 */
        if (s) {
            s++;
            i = 0;
                while (*s) {
                    if (*s != '*' && *s != '.')
                        i++;
                        s++;
                }
                if (i<4) {
                    wallops(s_OperServ, "%s tried to akill add %s!",
                            u->nick, mask);
                        return;
                }
        }
        /* End Lame IRCops Protection */


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From gregk at netsport.org  Fri Oct  1 06:43:50 1999
From: gregk at netsport.org (Gregory L King)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] preventing global akicks
In-Reply-To: <19991001053721600.AAA240@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.17]>
References: 19991001053721600.AAA240@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.17]
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.3.96.991001064259.3413A&#45;100000@netsport

Unfortunately, it is a services issue on my network.  We cater mostly to
webtv users, and well.. as a group, they arent the sharpest tools in the
shed (if they were, they wouldnt be webtv users).

On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Scott Seufert wrote:

> Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 01:34:36 -0700
> From: Scott Seufert <scotts@flamebait.org>
> Reply-To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] preventing global akicks
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> ----------
> >From: Gregory L King <gregk@netsport.org>
> >To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> >Subject: [IRCServices] preventing global akicks
> >Date: Thu, Sep 30, 1999, 9:59 PM
> >
> 
> > Im having some trouble with malicious operators adding global akicks on
> > the channel list.  I want to prevent this, but other than adding a test
> > for every possible combination of global mask, is there an easier way?
> >
> > I modified the chanserv.c code a little as follows...
> >
> > if (!stricmp(mask, "*!*@*") || !stricmp(mask, "*@*") ||
> > !stricmp(mask,"*@**") || !stricmp(mask,"*@*.*")) {
> >                 send_msg(s_ChanServ, u->nick, "Your akick mask is to
> > broad.");
> >                 log("%s: %s tried to akick add %s on %s!", s_ChanServ,
> > u->nick,
> >                 mask, chan);
> >                 wallops(s_ChanServ, "%s tried to akick add %s on %s!",
> > u->nick,
> >                 mask, chan);
> >                 return;
> >         }
> >
> > but, is there a better way to prevent a global ban (I know, tell the
> > founders to select better operators, but in the mean time?!)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> Personally, I happen to believe in your last statement. Founders should pick
> better operators. If a chanop or founder came to me about it I would either
> tell them to rid of the op, teach the op better or don't ban *!*@*. I don't
> see why it should be a services issue to police a ban on *!*@*.
> 
> However, preventing an AKILL is a different story, this creates a huge
> problem. ALL network users are affected, which it becomes of a major
> concern. Yes, if an oper on my net akilled *!*@* they would loose their
> O:Line instantly.
> 
> 
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From lebleu at prefer.net  Fri Oct  1 08:03:20 1999
From: lebleu at prefer.net (Kevin)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] AKILL *@* Lame IRCops Protection.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.00.9910011031290.5132-100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br>
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On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Jozenobio de Melo Brasil wrote:

>       I has maked a good protection for services if lame ircops try
> akill *@*... this protection can be used on akick too.
> 
>       Thanks all... :)
> 
>         /* Lame IRCops Protection by Jozeph'99 */
>         if (s) {
>             s++;
>             i = 0;
>                 while (*s) {
>                     if (*s != '*' && *s != '.')
>                         i++;
>                         s++;
Note: This line is indented wrong, s++ isn't dependent on the if
statement!
>                 }
>                 if (i<4) {
>                     wallops(s_OperServ, "%s tried to akill add %s!",
>                             u->nick, mask);
>                         return;
>                 }
>         }
>         /* End Lame IRCops Protection */

If I understand right, this looks for any non-wildcard characters in the
mask, and counts how many, which is good... but why not eliminate @ and !
as well, and make the test i < 1 or 1 < 2?  Of course, then there's the
question of what the shortest reasonable akill is... is akilling *@*.uk
reasonable? *@*.net?  Maybe it should stay at i < 4, but exclude the @
too, that way the shortest bans possible would be stuff like *@a*.net or
*@*.co.uk... perhaps even require 5 chars?

I think it would be good to add this patch, or perhaps a slight
modification of it, to services.  Should log the attempt though, not just
wallop it, so that it can be verified later if no one with sufficient
authority is on when it happens.  (e.g. only one irc op is on when they do
this...)

--Kevin

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From gregk at netsport.org  Fri Oct  1 09:06:03 1999
From: gregk at netsport.org (Gregory L King)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] AKILL *@* Lame IRCops Protection.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.00.9910010957460.25961-100000@hades.bleu.paganpaths.org>
References: Pine.LNX.4.00.9910010957460.25961&#45;100000@hades.bleu.paganpaths.org
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.3.96.991001090516.3707B&#45;100000@netsport

So, lets say (as in my case) they do "**@********" or some other
variation?  Would this code catch it?


On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Kevin wrote:

> Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 10:03:20 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Kevin <lebleu@prefer.net>
> Reply-To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] AKILL *@* Lame IRCops Protection.
> 
> 
> On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Jozenobio de Melo Brasil wrote:
> 
> >     I has maked a good protection for services if lame ircops try
> > akill *@*... this protection can be used on akick too.
> > 
> >     Thanks all... :)
> > 
> >         /* Lame IRCops Protection by Jozeph'99 */
> >         if (s) {
> >             s++;
> >             i = 0;
> >                 while (*s) {
> >                     if (*s != '*' && *s != '.')
> >                         i++;
> >                         s++;
> Note: This line is indented wrong, s++ isn't dependent on the if
> statement!
> >                 }
> >                 if (i<4) {
> >                     wallops(s_OperServ, "%s tried to akill add %s!",
> >                             u->nick, mask);
> >                         return;
> >                 }
> >         }
> >         /* End Lame IRCops Protection */
> 
> If I understand right, this looks for any non-wildcard characters in the
> mask, and counts how many, which is good... but why not eliminate @ and !
> as well, and make the test i < 1 or 1 < 2?  Of course, then there's the
> question of what the shortest reasonable akill is... is akilling *@*.uk
> reasonable? *@*.net?  Maybe it should stay at i < 4, but exclude the @
> too, that way the shortest bans possible would be stuff like *@a*.net or
> *@*.co.uk... perhaps even require 5 chars?
> 
> I think it would be good to add this patch, or perhaps a slight
> modification of it, to services.  Should log the attempt though, not just
> wallop it, so that it can be verified later if no one with sufficient
> authority is on when it happens.  (e.g. only one irc op is on when they do
> this...)
> 
> --Kevin
> 
> -- 
> PaganPaths IRC Network - irc.paganpaths.org - http://www.paganpaths.org/
> PPCR Pagan Internet Radio - <A  HREF="http://www.paganpaths.org/radio/">http://www.paganpaths.org/radio/</A>
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> the Blue. 
> Copyright 1999 Kevin the Blue <LeBleu@prefer.net>
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From jozeph at globalmedia.com.br  Fri Oct  1 10:06:03 1999
From: jozeph at globalmedia.com.br (Jozenobio de Melo Brasil)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] AKILL *@* Lame IRCops Protection.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.991001090516.3707B-100000@netsport>
References: Pine.LNX.3.96.991001090516.3707B&#45;100000@netsport
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.00.9910011405070.13337&#45;100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br

Hello,

> So, lets say (as in my case) they do "**@********" or some other
> variation?  Would this code catch it?

        Yes, it's don't add any akill *@*, or **@**, or *@***** or all
examples with using BAD AKILL! :)

        Thanks,
        Jozeph

> 
> 
> On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Kevin wrote:
> 
> > Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 10:03:20 -0500 (CDT)
> > From: Kevin <lebleu@prefer.net>
> > Reply-To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> > To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> > Subject: Re: [IRCServices] AKILL *@* Lame IRCops Protection.
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Jozenobio de Melo Brasil wrote:
> > 
> > >   I has maked a good protection for services if lame ircops try
> > > akill *@*... this protection can be used on akick too.
> > > 
> > >   Thanks all... :)
> > > 
> > >         /* Lame IRCops Protection by Jozeph'99 */
> > >         if (s) {
> > >             s++;
> > >             i = 0;
> > >                 while (*s) {
> > >                     if (*s != '*' && *s != '.')
> > >                         i++;
> > >                         s++;
> > Note: This line is indented wrong, s++ isn't dependent on the if
> > statement!
> > >                 }
> > >                 if (i<4) {
> > >                     wallops(s_OperServ, "%s tried to akill add %s!",
> > >                             u->nick, mask);
> > >                         return;
> > >                 }
> > >         }
> > >         /* End Lame IRCops Protection */
> > 
> > If I understand right, this looks for any non-wildcard characters in the
> > mask, and counts how many, which is good... but why not eliminate @ and !
> > as well, and make the test i < 1 or 1 < 2?  Of course, then there's the
> > question of what the shortest reasonable akill is... is akilling *@*.uk
> > reasonable? *@*.net?  Maybe it should stay at i < 4, but exclude the @
> > too, that way the shortest bans possible would be stuff like *@a*.net or
> > *@*.co.uk... perhaps even require 5 chars?
> > 
> > I think it would be good to add this patch, or perhaps a slight
> > modification of it, to services.  Should log the attempt though, not just
> > wallop it, so that it can be verified later if no one with sufficient
> > authority is on when it happens.  (e.g. only one irc op is on when they do
> > this...)
> > 
> > --Kevin
> > 
> > -- 
> > PaganPaths IRC Network - irc.paganpaths.org - http://www.paganpaths.org/
> > PPCR Pagan Internet Radio - <A  HREF="http://www.paganpaths.org/radio/">http://www.paganpaths.org/radio/</A>
> > If you're reading this you're part of the mass hallucination that is Kevin
> > the Blue. 
> > Copyright 1999 Kevin the Blue <LeBleu@prefer.net>
> > PGP public key at <A  HREF="http://www.lebl.eu.org/~lebleu/mypublickey.asc">http://www.lebl.eu.org/~lebleu/mypublickey.asc</A>
> > Wear a blue ribbon today to show your solidarity for freedom of speech on
> > the Internet! 
> > 
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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Fri Oct  1 13:33:01 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:50 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] AKILL *@* Lame IRCops Protection.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.00.9910010957460.25961-100000@hades.bleu.paganpaths.org>
References: Pine.LNX.4.00.9910010957460.25961&#45;100000@hades.bleu.paganpaths.org
Message-ID: 001701bf0c4c$27dcc1d0$0100a8c0@shadow

This is a general reply to this thread....

I've implemented a system whereby Services is configured to look for a
certain number of periods (".") in the akill mask. If the mask is too
general, and has fewer than the required periods, the mask is rejected.

I'll probably also check if the mask is globally matching one (i.e. matches
everything) and reject it too.

This will only be available in the next major release of IRC Services - ETA
is currently a month or two.

Andrew

        (back to the books, exams and large quantities of coffee)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of Kevin
> Sent: 01 October 1999 17:03
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] AKILL *@* Lame IRCops Protection.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Jozenobio de Melo Brasil wrote:
>
> >     I has maked a good protection for services if lame ircops try
> > akill *@*... this protection can be used on akick too.
> >
> >     Thanks all... :)
> >
> >         /* Lame IRCops Protection by Jozeph'99 */
> >         if (s) {
> >             s++;
> >             i = 0;
> >                 while (*s) {
> >                     if (*s != '*' && *s != '.')
> >                         i++;
> >                         s++;
> Note: This line is indented wrong, s++ isn't dependent on the if
> statement!
> >                 }
> >                 if (i<4) {
> >                     wallops(s_OperServ, "%s tried to akill add %s!",
> >                             u->nick, mask);
> >                         return;
> >                 }
> >         }
> >         /* End Lame IRCops Protection */
>
> If I understand right, this looks for any non-wildcard characters in the
> mask, and counts how many, which is good... but why not eliminate @ and !
> as well, and make the test i < 1 or 1 < 2?  Of course, then there's the
> question of what the shortest reasonable akill is... is akilling *@*.uk
> reasonable? *@*.net?  Maybe it should stay at i < 4, but exclude the @
> too, that way the shortest bans possible would be stuff like *@a*.net or
> *@*.co.uk... perhaps even require 5 chars?
>
> I think it would be good to add this patch, or perhaps a slight
> modification of it, to services.  Should log the attempt though, not just
> wallop it, so that it can be verified later if no one with sufficient
> authority is on when it happens.  (e.g. only one irc op is on when they do
> this...)
>
> --Kevin
>
> --
> PaganPaths IRC Network - irc.paganpaths.org - <A  HREF="http://www.paganpaths.org/">http://www.paganpaths.org/</A>
> PPCR Pagan Internet Radio - <A  HREF="http://www.paganpaths.org/radio/">http://www.paganpaths.org/radio/</A>
> If you're reading this you're part of the mass hallucination that is Kevin
> the Blue.
> Copyright 1999 Kevin the Blue <LeBleu@prefer.net>
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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Fri Oct  1 13:35:02 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Channel Successor
In-Reply-To: <NDBBKLOOKLMAKHFICBLCIEBOCBAA.uhc0@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
References: NDBBKLOOKLMAKHFICBLCIEBOCBAA.uhc0@rz.uni&#45;karlsruhe.de
Message-ID: 001801bf0c4c$70169840$0100a8c0@shadow

The successor feature is purely a safegaurd and is intended to
provide/support special access/permissions. I think it's going to stay that
way seeing as the successor can be given access to all the nescessary
commands via the access list.

Andrew

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of Yusuf
> Iskenderoglu
> Sent: 30 September 1999 23:23
> To: Services
> Subject: [IRCServices] Channel Successor
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I had some questions about Channel Successor setting.
> It is good to be able to set a successor for a channel, but
> even though one might be set, the successor has no rights while
> the founder's nickname persists.
>
> I wanted to say, that e.g. the successor does not get autoopped, nor
> the successor can use other ChanServ commands.
> This results in having to add the successor to the access list,
> but the founder's
> nickname does not need to be in the access list.
>
> What I am going to suggest is, to implement another level, an
> access level :
> successor level.
> Using this, the founder might use
> /chanserv levels #channel set set successor
> /chanserv levels #channel set clear successor
> To enable several commands to the successor.
>
> And, therefore the successor level should be a level between 9999
> and founder. To
> ensure that the successor can use "normal" chanserv commands.
>
> regards;
>
> ---------------------------------
> Yusuf Iskenderoglu
> eMail : uhc0@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
> ICQ : 20587464
> ---------------------------------
>
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From v13 at it.teithe.gr  Fri Oct  1 14:06:00 1999
From: v13 at it.teithe.gr (Harhalakis Stefanos)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] AKILL *@* Lame IRCops Protection.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.00.9910011031290.5132-100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br>
References: Pine.LNX.4.00.9910011031290.5132&#45;100000@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br
Message-ID: Pine.SGI.4.05.9910012343470.19307&#45;100000@aetos.it.teithe.gr

 you can use some checks like: match_wild(mask,"@"),
match_wild(mask,"@.com")... so that someone canot enter e mask like
**...**@**...** or *@*com. Any mask like *@* will match @.
(Use your imagination. "@..." is a nice trick to prevent "*@*.*.*.*"...)

<<V13>>

On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Jozenobio de Melo Brasil wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
>       I has maked a good protection for services if lame ircops try
> akill *@*... this protection can be used on akick too.
> 
>       Thanks all... :)
> 
>         /* Lame IRCops Protection by Jozeph'99 */
>         if (s) {
>             s++;
>             i = 0;
>                 while (*s) {
>                     if (*s != '*' && *s != '.')
>                         i++;
>                         s++;
>                 }
>                 if (i<4) {
>                     wallops(s_OperServ, "%s tried to akill add %s!",
>                             u->nick, mask);
>                         return;
>                 }
>         }
>         /* End Lame IRCops Protection */
> 
> 
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>  \|/ --- \|/   | Jozenóbio de Melo Brasil.
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>                |  a maldade da minoria tende sempre a desaparecer! "
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
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From net at lite.net  Sat Oct  2 16:19:25 1999
From: net at lite.net (Jonathan George)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] preventing global akicks
In-Reply-To: <19991001053721600.AAA240@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.17]>
References: 19991001053721600.AAA240@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.17]
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.10.9910021816420.20922&#45;100000@lite.net

You could always do something like:

(the functions should be fairly clear, although I'll bet the names aren't
right :)

if (match_wild(mask, "asdf@jkl;")) {
        /* really broad mask, eh? */
        return;
}

|> if (!stricmp(mask, "*!*@*") || !stricmp(mask, "*@*") ||
|> !stricmp(mask,"*@**") || !stricmp(mask,"*@*.*")) {
|>                 send_msg(s_ChanServ, u->nick, "Your akick mask is to
|> broad.");
|>                 log("%s: %s tried to akick add %s on %s!", s_ChanServ,
|> u->nick,
|>                 mask, chan);
|>                 wallops(s_ChanServ, "%s tried to akick add %s on %s!",
|> u->nick,
|>                 mask, chan);
|>                 return;
|>         }

------------------------------------------
Jonathan George   (net@lite.net)
Terra World, Inc. (support@terraworld.net)
Programmer        (outlaw@terraworld.net)
Technician        (root@lite.net)

"Never execute code written on a Friday or
a Monday."

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From Services at sysopnet.org  Mon Oct  4 18:11:46 1999
From: Services at sysopnet.org (Scott Drake)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ChanServ list *
Message-ID: 199910042112.5144713.6@sysopnet.org

I have just installed the latest Services and was surprised when I did a
/msg ChanServ list * to see not only the Registered channels but those
that are forbidden also. Is there anyway to either list the registered channels
and the forbidden separtertly or just have the registered channel display
instead of both making it hard to see which is which?



Regards,

Scott Drake
SysOpNet IRC Network - irc.SysOpNet.Org
ircadmin@SysOpNet.Org



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From jestercm at chatfamily.com  Mon Oct  4 21:03:54 1999
From: jestercm at chatfamily.com (David Narayan)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ChanServ list *
In-Reply-To: <199910042112.5144713.6@sysopnet.org>
References: 199910042112.5144713.6@sysopnet.org
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.3.96.991005000053.11032A&#45;100000@ns

/msg ChanServ list * FORBIDDEN
will show all the ones that are forbidden.

/msg ChanServ list * NOEXPIRE 
shows the ones that wont expire.

list * shows everything since by definition a * is a full wildcard.

-----
David Narayan
Server Administrator
http://www.chatfamily.com

On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Scott Drake wrote:

> I have just installed the latest Services and was surprised when I did a
> /msg ChanServ list * to see not only the Registered channels but those
> that are forbidden also. Is there anyway to either list the registered channels
> and the forbidden separtertly or just have the registered channel display
> instead of both making it hard to see which is which?
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Scott Drake
> SysOpNet IRC Network - irc.SysOpNet.Org
> ircadmin@SysOpNet.Org
> 
> 
> 
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From dmircea at kappa.ro  Tue Oct  5 02:33:29 1999
From: dmircea at kappa.ro (Mircea Damian)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] MD5 encryption
Message-ID: 19991005123329.A16143@kappa.ro


Hello,

Here is a small patch to make encryption work for me:


--- encrypt.c.orig      Wed Jun  2 10:40:05 1999
+++ encrypt.c   Mon Oct  4 20:34:57 1999
@@ -354,6 +354,10 @@
 
     if (size < 16)
        return -1;
+
+    memset(&context, 0, sizeof(context));
+    memset(&digest, 0, sizeof(digest));
+
     MD5Init(&context);
     MD5Update(&context, src, len);
     MD5Final(digest, &context);

Without this the password authentification will allways fail because the
variables aren't initialized to 0.

I hope it helps.

Good luck,

-- 
Mircea Damian
E-mails: dmircea@kappa.ro, dmircea@roedu.net
WebPage: http://taz.mania.k.ro/~dmircea/

From natey at capetown.za.org  Sun Oct  3 14:32:55 1999
From: natey at capetown.za.org (Natey on IRC)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Info about IRC Services
Message-ID: 3.0.5.32.19991003233255.0087a250@capetown.za.org

Hi there,

Does anyone know if there is an RFC for IRC Network services written?

Also, I'm wondering if anyone has written a decent StatServ that can give
back a map of how servers are connected?

server1.test.net
`-server2.test.net
  |-server3.test.net
  | |-server4.test.net
  | `-services.test.net
  |-server5.test.net
etc. etc.

Has anyone written something like this.  I know of GeoStats, but it does
not have this feature in it at the moment. :(

Regards
Natey

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From natey at capetown.za.org  Sun Oct  3 14:37:49 1999
From: natey at capetown.za.org (Natey on IRC)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Modules
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.990930153329.23012P-100000@vector.chocobo.org>
References: <Pine.GSO.3.96.990929170416.687B-100000@shell.icon.co.za>
Message-ID: 3.0.5.32.19991003233749.0087ea00@capetown.za.org

At 03:36 PM 30/09/99 -0700, you wrote:
>On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Andrew Kempe wrote:
>
>> Point me in the direction of some example code and some documentation and
>> I'm more than willing to attempt to provide this type of support.
>> 
>> I've been toying with the idea of modules for a while now - mainly due to
>> the number of requests for specific addtions to Services. By having module
>> support, DALnet specific enhancements, detailed statistics etc would be
>> easier to implement. Currently Services is modular in the sense of #define
>> blocks :)

Well adding a few lines into certain files like main.c etc. and then
include module.c into the Makefiles etc. is the short cut *eg*.

Module support relies on the ability to get others to program in specific
ways see webmin for example :)  http://www.webmin.com/ which allows one to
add modules and remove them.  It is written in perl b.t.w.

Maybe make patches availabe explaining cut the next 4 lines and paste at
line x in the source code :)  I currently do this sort of manual patching.
>
>Listar and Apache (the latter being the most commonly-used program to use
>this) use dynamically-loadable modules to extend their functionality. You
>might look at the dl* calls, like in Linux's and Solaris' libdl.so;
>FreeBSD has the dl functions built into their libc.
>
>And if you come across a platform which does not support
>dynamically-linkable modules or those whose dynamic support is either too
>hairy or broken, you'd have to build otherwise-dynamic functions directly
>into the services binary statically.

Rebuilding services may be the best bet allowing one to see whether there
is a problem with compiling the module into services.

Regards
Natey

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From natey at capetown.za.org  Sun Oct  3 14:44:51 1999
From: natey at capetown.za.org (Natey on IRC)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] New IRC protocol revised
In-Reply-To: <37f21a2b.00414@dragonfire.net>
References: 37f21a2b.00414@dragonfire.net
Message-ID: 3.0.5.32.19991003234451.0087ea00@capetown.za.org

At 10:51 PM 29/09/99 JST, you wrote:
>     I've revised my new IRC protocol definition again; the URL is (still)
>http://achurch.dragonfire.net/irc3/ .  Comments are welcome, appreciated,
>and in fact longed for. (:  There's still one big unresolved point dealing
>with cyclic networks, but I'm thinking of submitting it as an Internet
>Draft in the near future anyway, just to see what kind of feedback I get.

Andy, I don't want to be rude or anything but why would anyone want to have
a network where servers are connected in a circular fashion?  It would
require additional bandwidth making the rule of thumb go up. :(  Not
forgetting additional RAM required for the ircd to remember that it has
various paths to send data to reach server x.

Currently the DALnet implementation of irc protocol is quite good, well
actually the best comparing it to ircu, irce etc. etc.

Many IRC Networks are basing their ircd's on DALnet code! (Believe it or not).

Regards
Natey
>
>     Incidentally, I seem to recall someone on this list saying they were
>working on developing a server using this new protocol.  Are you out there
>somewhere or is it just my wishful thinking acting up again?
>
>  --Andrew Church
>    achurch@dragonfire.net
>    <A  HREF="http://achurch.dragonfire.net/">http://achurch.dragonfire.net/</A>
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From kieran_spain at eol.ieaust.org.au  Tue Oct  5 17:22:13 1999
From: kieran_spain at eol.ieaust.org.au (Kieran Spain)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Info about IRC Services
Message-ID: fc.000f54ac001c1c8e3b9aca00edc42399.1c1c8f@eol.ieaust.org.au

This feature should be almost every IRCD around...
/map would be a good guess as to what the command is... 

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From scotts at flamebait.org  Tue Oct  5 20:29:33 1999
From: scotts at flamebait.org (Scott Seufert)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Info about IRC Services
Message-ID: 19991006003224383.AAA388@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.91]



----------
>From: Natey on IRC <natey@capetown.za.org>
>To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
>Subject: [IRCServices] Info about IRC Services
>Date: Sun, Oct 3, 1999, 2:32 PM
>

> Hi there,
>
> Does anyone know if there is an RFC for IRC Network services written?
>

RFC1459 covers IRC and IRC networking. Services would fall under this same
RFC.

> Also, I'm wondering if anyone has written a decent StatServ that can give
> back a map of how servers are connected?
>
> server1.test.net
> `-server2.test.net
>   |-server3.test.net
>   | |-server4.test.net
>   | `-services.test.net
>   |-server5.test.net
> etc. etc.
>

IMHO, /links does a very good job at showing you your network topography.


> Has anyone written something like this.  I know of GeoStats, but it does
> not have this feature in it at the moment. :(
>
> Regards
> Natey
>


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From Services at sysopnet.org  Tue Oct  5 17:39:15 1999
From: Services at sysopnet.org (Scott Drake)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ChanServ list *
Message-ID: 199910052040.2246433.6@sysopnet.org

On Tue, 5 Oct 1999 00:03:54 -0400 (EDT), David Narayan wrote:

Welp when I do the cammands you list below I get the same result, it
displays every channel registered and forbidden :(

>/msg ChanServ list * FORBIDDEN
>will show all the ones that are forbidden.
>
>/msg ChanServ list * NOEXPIRE 
>shows the ones that wont expire.
>
>list * shows everything since by definition a * is a full wildcard.
>
>-----
>David Narayan
>Server Administrator
>http://www.chatfamily.com
>
>On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Scott Drake wrote:
>
>> I have just installed the latest Services and was surprised when I did a
>> /msg ChanServ list * to see not only the Registered channels but those
>> that are forbidden also. Is there anyway to either list the registered channels
>> and the forbidden separtertly or just have the registered channel display
>> instead of both making it hard to see which is which?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Scott Drake
>> SysOpNet IRC Network - irc.SysOpNet.Org
>> ircadmin@SysOpNet.Org
>> 
>> 
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From Services at sysopnet.org  Tue Oct  5 17:44:04 1999
From: Services at sysopnet.org (Scott Drake)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Spoofing a user ID
Message-ID: 199910052045.1245030.6@sysopnet.org

I was on my network today and saw something very interesting, it seems
someone decided to bring a bot onto a channel where the bot died and
was ablr to spoof chanserv into op'ing it by using a user mask of
ircadmin@@ns1.isonline.com??? Besides making the nickserv
username secure and making the bot identify itself everytime is
there anything one can do to prevent chanserv from op'ing the
wrong person and/or bot when the use 2 "@@" in the mask?



Regards,

Scott Drake
SysOpNet IRC Network - irc.SysOpNet.Org
ircadmin@SysOpNet.Org



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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Wed Oct  6 01:20:58 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Info about IRC Services
In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19991003233255.0087a250@capetown.za.org>
References: 3.0.5.32.19991003233255.0087a250@capetown.za.org
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.3.96.991006101957.3369H&#45;100000@shell.icon.co.za

The ircd that ShadowFire uses has this build into it. The next major
release of IRC Services may support this via it's build in statserv.

Get the ShadowFire ircd from:

ftp://ender.shadowfire.org/pub/ircd/

The ircd also includes RPING and UPING.

Andrew

On Sun, 3 Oct 1999, Natey on IRC wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> Does anyone know if there is an RFC for IRC Network services written?
> 
> Also, I'm wondering if anyone has written a decent StatServ that can give
> back a map of how servers are connected?
> 
> server1.test.net
> `-server2.test.net
>   |-server3.test.net
>   | |-server4.test.net
>   | `-services.test.net
>   |-server5.test.net
> etc. etc.
> 
> Has anyone written something like this.  I know of GeoStats, but it does
> not have this feature in it at the moment. :(
> 
> Regards
> Natey
> 
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From achurch at dragonfire.net  Wed Oct  6 19:52:50 1999
From: achurch at dragonfire.net (Andrew Church)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] New IRC protocol revised
Message-ID: 37fb3512.00250@dragonfire.net

>Andy, I don't want to be rude or anything but why would anyone want to have
>a network where servers are connected in a circular fashion?

     Two words:  No netsplits.  Well, few netsplits, certainly compared to
the current tree-style networks.  Until the Internet becomes as stable as
the telephone network--which to be honest I can't see happening in the near
future; I'm honestly scared shitless at the thought of ordinary phone calls
being routed over the Internet--links are going to drop out occasionally
for no fault of the servers, and to avoid problems arising from that we
need redundancy at a higher level, like the IRC network level.

>It would require additional bandwidth

     This is partly the fault of my algorithm--complete graphs will cause
quite a bunch of unnecessary messages to be sent; I'll see about fixing
that--but even then, the difference shouldn't be significant for most
cases.  For example, a 3-node "loop" network will send 4 copies of a
global message where only 2 are required; but a 6-node "loop" network will
send 6 where 5 are required, a much less significant excess.

     And if this does bother you so much, there's nothing saying you
_have_ to link your servers in a cyclic network.  Cyclic networks are a
significant part of my specification, but hardly the only part.  There's
also (1) internationalization--in case you hadn't noticed, English is not
the only language in the world (have you tried using a Japanese nickname
on a standard IRC server recently?); (2) binary protocol, allowing
anything to be sent as a message (think audio/video on a LAN), reducing
computation time (no more strcmp's on commands and such), and somewhat
reducing bandwidth use; and (3) it's about time _someone_ put out a
protocol specification to do something about the gazillions of different
variations out there.

>Not
>forgetting additional RAM required for the ircd to remember that it has
>various paths to send data to reach server x.

     What, 2 bytes per server (ID of the next server on the shortest path)?
If memory is that tight, stop using a 20-year-old computer.

>Currently the DALnet implementation of irc protocol is quite good, well
>actually the best comparing it to ircu, irce etc. etc.

     I won't argue that DALnet's implementation is not good.  I just don't
think it's not possible to come up with a better one (whether mine is
better is something I'll leave up to others).

     I also ought to practice not using so many negatives at once.

  --Andrew Church
    achurch@dragonfire.net
    http://achurch.dragonfire.net/
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From scotts at flamebait.org  Wed Oct  6 18:33:37 1999
From: scotts at flamebait.org (Scott Seufert)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] New IRC protocol revised
Message-ID: 19991006223657793.AAA365@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.217]



----------
>From: achurch@dragonfire.net (Andrew Church)
>To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
>Subject: Re: [IRCServices] New IRC protocol revised
>Date: Wed, Oct 6, 1999, 3:52 AM
>

>>Andy, I don't want to be rude or anything but why would anyone want to have
>>a network where servers are connected in a circular fashion?
>
>      Two words:  No netsplits.  Well, few netsplits, certainly compared to
> the current tree-style networks.  Until the Internet becomes as stable as
> the telephone network--which to be honest I can't see happening in the near
> future; I'm honestly scared shitless at the thought of ordinary phone calls
> being routed over the Internet--links are going to drop out occasionally
> for no fault of the servers, and to avoid problems arising from that we
> need redundancy at a higher level, like the IRC network level.
>
<snip>

If I read this correctly this new protocol will allow more than one
connection to the same server at the same time? ... if so how will Jupes be
handled? ... and how will the network know which way to send data, so that
the server that is connected more than once don't receive it's data from
more than one source?

With DSL growing so popular the end user portion is already gorwing "more
stable". :)


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From achurch at dragonfire.net  Thu Oct  7 21:59:45 1999
From: achurch at dragonfire.net (Andrew Church)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] New IRC protocol revised
Message-ID: 37fc99c7.00502@dragonfire.net

>If I read this correctly this new protocol will allow more than one
>connection to the same server at the same time?

     Yes.

>... if so how will Jupes be handled? ...

     You won't be able to do them the way you do now; you'd need to
modify servers' configurations and/or add a new command to keep a server
out.

     Come to think of it, this does raise an interesting problem where a
server connects with the same name and ID as another server already on
the network, causing some/all messages to that server to be misdirected.
Maybe we need a remote address check on duplicate connections (which
would allow jupes to work again).

>and how will the network know which way to send data, so that
>the server that is connected more than once don't receive it's data from
>more than one source?

     This is described in section 1.6.

>With DSL growing so popular the end user portion is already gorwing "more
>stable". :)

     Tell that to one of my friends on EsperNet who delinked his server
because his DSL connection was so unstable.

     Also remember that stability is not just the end-user-to-uplink
connection, but all the routers on the paths between the servers/clients--
it's actually the latter part that worries me the most.

  --Andrew Church
    achurch@dragonfire.net
    http://achurch.dragonfire.net/
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From climber at rionet.com.br  Thu Oct  7 13:46:37 1999
From: climber at rionet.com.br (root of all evil)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] what do they think ?
References: <37fc99c7.00502@dragonfire.net>
Message-ID: 99100716582300.00678@rcmoraes.intranet

i had wrote this function on my services, it is working well, but i wold like
to hear coments and sugestions on it

it send password information to the nick email (ni->email) and i changed the
do_register, so users must give a mail

the function is it : 

static void do_sendpass(User *u)
{
#ifndef USE_ENCRYPTION
    char *nick = strtok(NULL, " ");
    NickInfo *ni;
    FILE *tosend;
    FILE *lock;
#endif

#ifdef USE_ENCRYPTION
    notice(s_NickServ, u->nick, "SENDPASS not avaliable");
#else
      lock = fopen(".senpass.nick", "r");
      if (lock) {
        notice(s_NickServ, u->nick, "Sendpass is busy, try again later");
        fclose(lock);
        return ;                  
    }else if (!nick) {
            notice(s_NickServ, u->nick, "Sintax: /msg NickServ SENDPASS nick");
        return ;
    } else if (!(ni = findnick(nick))) {
        notice_lang(s_NickServ, u, NICK_X_NOT_REGISTERED, nick);
        return ;
    } else if (nick_is_services_admin(ni) && !is_services_root(u)) {  
        notice_lang(s_NickServ, u, PERMISSION_DENIED); 
        return ;
    } else if (!ni->email) {
        notice(s_NickServ, u->nick, "No email set");
        return ;
    } else if (!strchr(ni->email, '@')) {
        notice(s_NickServ, u->nick, "bad email");
        return ;
    } else if(strlen(ni->email)>50) {
        notice(s_NickServ, u->nick, "bad email");
        return ;
    } else {
            
       char illsend[256];
       strcpy(illsend,"/usr/sbin/sendmail ");
       strcat(illsend, ni->email);
       strcat(illsend," < .sendpass.nick");

        tosend = fopen(".sendpass.nick", "w");
          if (tosend) {
          fprintf(tosend, "From: brasirc@brasirc.com.br\n");
          fprintf(tosend, "Subject: [%s] Password\n", ni->nick);
          fprintf(tosend, "\n");
          fprintf(tosend, "Dear user\n");
          fprintf(tosend, "yor nick %s password is:%s\n", ni->nick, ni->pass);
          fprintf(tosend, "if u need help  write to ajuda@brasirc.com.br\n");  
          fprintf(tosend, "or join #BrasIRCOP\n");       
          fprintf(tosend, "\n"); 
          fprintf(tosend, "BrasIRC.com.br network");
          fprintf(tosend,".\n");   /* this get us out on sendmail */ 
          fclose(tosend);

          system(illsend);
          system("rm -f .sendpass.nick"); 

        log("%s: %s!%s@%s used SENDPASS on %s email: %s", s_NickServ, u->nick,
u ->username, u->host, nick, ni->email);
         if (WallGetpass)             
         wallops(s_NickServ, "\2%s\2 used SENDPASS on \2%s\2, mail: %s",
u->nick, nick, ni->email);         
       } else {           notice(s_NickServ, u->nick, "Ooops, Something gone
wrong on SendPass");
          }     } 
} 
#endif

Fighter ircadmin irc.rionet.com.br
Brasirc.com.br Network 
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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Fri Oct  8 02:42:27 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] what do they think ?
In-Reply-To: <99100716582300.00678@rcmoraes.intranet>
References: 99100716582300.00678@rcmoraes.intranet
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.3.96.991008113406.27085E&#45;100000@shell.icon.co.za

I have little experience with system(), but from what I've heard, it's not
such a good command to use. execve() being a more preferred method. Am I
correct?

This type of functionality is already being build into the next version of
IRC Services.

Andrew

On Thu, 7 Oct 1999, root of all evil wrote:

> i had wrote this function on my services, it is working well, but i wold like
> to hear coments and sugestions on it
> 
> it send password information to the nick email (ni->email) and i changed the
> do_register, so users must give a mail
> 
> the function is it : 
> 
> static void do_sendpass(User *u)
> {
> #ifndef USE_ENCRYPTION
>     char *nick = strtok(NULL, " ");
>     NickInfo *ni;
>     FILE *tosend;
>     FILE *lock;
> #endif
> 
> #ifdef USE_ENCRYPTION
>     notice(s_NickServ, u->nick, "SENDPASS not avaliable");
> #else
>       lock = fopen(".senpass.nick", "r");
>       if (lock) {
>         notice(s_NickServ, u->nick, "Sendpass is busy, try again later");
>         fclose(lock);
>         return ;                  
>     }else if (!nick) {
>             notice(s_NickServ, u->nick, "Sintax: /msg NickServ SENDPASS nick");
>       return ;
>     } else if (!(ni = findnick(nick))) {
>         notice_lang(s_NickServ, u, NICK_X_NOT_REGISTERED, nick);
>         return ;
>     } else if (nick_is_services_admin(ni) && !is_services_root(u)) {  
>         notice_lang(s_NickServ, u, PERMISSION_DENIED); 
>         return ;
>     } else if (!ni->email) {
>         notice(s_NickServ, u->nick, "No email set");
>         return ;
>     } else if (!strchr(ni->email, '@')) {
>         notice(s_NickServ, u->nick, "bad email");
>         return ;
>     } else if(strlen(ni->email)>50) {
>         notice(s_NickServ, u->nick, "bad email");
>         return ;
>     } else {
>             
>        char illsend[256];
>        strcpy(illsend,"/usr/sbin/sendmail ");
>        strcat(illsend, ni->email);
>        strcat(illsend," < .sendpass.nick");
> 
>         tosend = fopen(".sendpass.nick", "w");
>           if (tosend) {
>           fprintf(tosend, "From: brasirc@brasirc.com.br\n");
>           fprintf(tosend, "Subject: [%s] Password\n", ni->nick);
>           fprintf(tosend, "\n");
>           fprintf(tosend, "Dear user\n");
>           fprintf(tosend, "yor nick %s password is:%s\n", ni->nick, ni->pass);
>           fprintf(tosend, "if u need help  write to ajuda@brasirc.com.br\n");  
>           fprintf(tosend, "or join #BrasIRCOP\n");       
>           fprintf(tosend, "\n"); 
>           fprintf(tosend, "BrasIRC.com.br network");
>           fprintf(tosend,".\n");   /* this get us out on sendmail */ 
>           fclose(tosend);
> 
>           system(illsend);
>           system("rm -f .sendpass.nick"); 
> 
>         log("%s: %s!%s@%s used SENDPASS on %s email: %s", s_NickServ, u->nick,
> u ->username, u->host, nick, ni->email);
>          if (WallGetpass)             
>          wallops(s_NickServ, "\2%s\2 used SENDPASS on \2%s\2, mail: %s",
> u->nick, nick, ni->email);         
>        } else {           notice(s_NickServ, u->nick, "Ooops, Something gone
> wrong on SendPass");
>           }     } 
> } 
> #endif
> 
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From jpinto9 at visteon.com  Fri Oct  8 03:20:30 1999
From: jpinto9 at visteon.com (Pinto, Joao Luis (J.))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] what do they think ?
Message-ID: 199910081020.GAA17547@mailfw2.ford.com

I think putting the mailing job on services is not a very good idea, my idea
is services should dump the data for the mails on a temp file, and then a
script that would be on cron, would use thid temp file, send the mails and
clean the file :), a 10mins interval cron with be a good service.

João Luís Marques Pinto
PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
http://www.PTlink.net  



-----Original Message-----
From: root of all evil [<A  HREF="mailto:climber@rionet.com.br">mailto:climber@rionet.com.br</A>]
Sent: quinta-feira, 7 de outubro de 1999 21:47
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: [IRCServices] what do they think ?


i had wrote this function on my services, it is working well, but i wold
like
to hear coments and sugestions on it

it send password information to the nick email (ni->email) and i changed the
do_register, so users must give a mail

the function is it : 

static void do_sendpass(User *u)
{
#ifndef USE_ENCRYPTION
    char *nick = strtok(NULL, " ");
    NickInfo *ni;
    FILE *tosend;
    FILE *lock;
#endif

#ifdef USE_ENCRYPTION
    notice(s_NickServ, u->nick, "SENDPASS not avaliable");
#else
      lock = fopen(".senpass.nick", "r");
      if (lock) {
        notice(s_NickServ, u->nick, "Sendpass is busy, try again later");
        fclose(lock);
        return ;                  
    }else if (!nick) {
            notice(s_NickServ, u->nick, "Sintax: /msg NickServ SENDPASS
nick");
        return ;
    } else if (!(ni = findnick(nick))) {
        notice_lang(s_NickServ, u, NICK_X_NOT_REGISTERED, nick);
        return ;
    } else if (nick_is_services_admin(ni) && !is_services_root(u)) {  
        notice_lang(s_NickServ, u, PERMISSION_DENIED); 
        return ;
    } else if (!ni->email) {
        notice(s_NickServ, u->nick, "No email set");
        return ;
    } else if (!strchr(ni->email, '@')) {
        notice(s_NickServ, u->nick, "bad email");
        return ;
    } else if(strlen(ni->email)>50) {
        notice(s_NickServ, u->nick, "bad email");
        return ;
    } else {
            
       char illsend[256];
       strcpy(illsend,"/usr/sbin/sendmail ");
       strcat(illsend, ni->email);
       strcat(illsend," < .sendpass.nick");

        tosend = fopen(".sendpass.nick", "w");
          if (tosend) {
          fprintf(tosend, "From: brasirc@brasirc.com.br\n");
          fprintf(tosend, "Subject: [%s] Password\n", ni->nick);
          fprintf(tosend, "\n");
          fprintf(tosend, "Dear user\n");
          fprintf(tosend, "yor nick %s password is:%s\n", ni->nick,
ni->pass);
          fprintf(tosend, "if u need help  write to
ajuda@brasirc.com.br\n");  
          fprintf(tosend, "or join #BrasIRCOP\n");       
          fprintf(tosend, "\n"); 
          fprintf(tosend, "BrasIRC.com.br network");
          fprintf(tosend,".\n");   /* this get us out on sendmail */ 
          fclose(tosend);

          system(illsend);
          system("rm -f .sendpass.nick"); 

        log("%s: %s!%s@%s used SENDPASS on %s email: %s", s_NickServ,
u->nick,
u ->username, u->host, nick, ni->email);
         if (WallGetpass)             
         wallops(s_NickServ, "\2%s\2 used SENDPASS on \2%s\2, mail: %s",
u->nick, nick, ni->email);         
       } else {           notice(s_NickServ, u->nick, "Ooops, Something gone
wrong on SendPass");
          }     } 
} 
#endif

Fighter ircadmin irc.rionet.com.br
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From scotts at flamebait.org  Fri Oct  8 08:30:59 1999
From: scotts at flamebait.org (Scott Seufert)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] what do they think ?
Message-ID: 19991008123419726.AAA368@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.97]



----------
>From: "Pinto, Joao Luis (J.)" <jpinto9@visteon.com>
>To: "'ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org'" <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
>Subject: RE: [IRCServices] what do they think ?
>Date: Fri, Oct 8, 1999, 3:20 AM
>

> I think putting the mailing job on services is not a very good idea, my idea
> is services should dump the data for the mails on a temp file, and then a
> script that would be on cron, would use thid temp file, send the mails and
> clean the file :), a 10mins interval cron with be a good service.
>

Good in theory, however the problem I see is that users will have to wait
that 10 minutes to finish registering their nick and/or any channels that
are wanted registered as well. I was using IRCu and CService style bot and I
found that our biggest complaint was that users didn't like that it involved
such a long process, personally I see nothing wrong with requiring a few
supporters, however I still got complaints. Users wanted instant results, so
I removed the UnderNet style bots and daemon that I like so well and
switched to DALnet's daemon and ircservices. The complaints have stopped. In
short adding a 10 minute cron job may not be the answer.

Another thing is that when I was an oper on DALnet, services would back
themselves up. When this is in process services was very hard to work with,
because the box services is on was running at a high CPU. IF this mail cron
job gets too big in that 10 minute span, you may see the same results.

<snip>


Just my $0.02

Scott Seufert
Network Admin
FlameBait IRC Network
irc.flamebait.org 7000
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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Fri Oct  8 06:27:12 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] what do they think ?
In-Reply-To: <19991008123419726.AAA368@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.97]>
References: 19991008123419726.AAA368@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.97]
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.3.96.991008151908.27085G&#45;100000@shell.icon.co.za

I agree. I was originally going to go for the cron option, but I thought
that the wait would be too long. I was thinking about the following two
options:

1. Get services to run a script, that goes into the background, that will
send the relevant email. The script is run for every email.
2. Get services to communicate with another proccess, which is always
running, informing it of the new email to be sent. This process will then
take care of the nescessary tasks. This option would require that Services
ensures that the process is always running and operational.

Comments?

Andrew



On Fri, 8 Oct 1999, Scott Seufert wrote:

> 
> 
> ----------
> >From: "Pinto, Joao Luis (J.)" <jpinto9@visteon.com>
> >To: "'ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org'" <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
> >Subject: RE: [IRCServices] what do they think ?
> >Date: Fri, Oct 8, 1999, 3:20 AM
> >
> 
> > I think putting the mailing job on services is not a very good idea, my idea
> > is services should dump the data for the mails on a temp file, and then a
> > script that would be on cron, would use thid temp file, send the mails and
> > clean the file :), a 10mins interval cron with be a good service.
> >
> 
> Good in theory, however the problem I see is that users will have to wait
> that 10 minutes to finish registering their nick and/or any channels that
> are wanted registered as well. I was using IRCu and CService style bot and I
> found that our biggest complaint was that users didn't like that it involved
> such a long process, personally I see nothing wrong with requiring a few
> supporters, however I still got complaints. Users wanted instant results, so
> I removed the UnderNet style bots and daemon that I like so well and
> switched to DALnet's daemon and ircservices. The complaints have stopped. In
> short adding a 10 minute cron job may not be the answer.
> 
> Another thing is that when I was an oper on DALnet, services would back
> themselves up. When this is in process services was very hard to work with,
> because the box services is on was running at a high CPU. IF this mail cron
> job gets too big in that 10 minute span, you may see the same results.
> 
> <snip>
> 
> 
> Just my $0.02
> 
> Scott Seufert
> Network Admin
> FlameBait IRC Network
> irc.flamebait.org 7000
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From jpinto9 at visteon.com  Fri Oct  8 07:07:51 1999
From: jpinto9 at visteon.com (Pinto, Joao Luis (J.))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] what do they think ?
Message-ID: 199910081408.KAA01313@mailfw1.ford.com

The registration would be the normal way, on the fly, just SENDPASS commands
would wait for cron, 10 minutes waiting for a password doesnt look too much
to me :), but you could put in on 5 mins :), for those people using
encrypted passwords like me, should be implemented a Password Reminder.

João Luís Marques Pinto
PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
http://www.PTlink.net  



-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Seufert [<A  HREF="mailto:scotts@flamebait.org">mailto:scotts@flamebait.org</A>]
Sent: sexta-feira, 8 de outubro de 1999 16:31
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] what do they think ?




----------
>From: "Pinto, Joao Luis (J.)" <jpinto9@visteon.com>
>To: "'ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org'" <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
>Subject: RE: [IRCServices] what do they think ?
>Date: Fri, Oct 8, 1999, 3:20 AM
>

> I think putting the mailing job on services is not a very good idea, my
idea
> is services should dump the data for the mails on a temp file, and then a
> script that would be on cron, would use thid temp file, send the mails and
> clean the file :), a 10mins interval cron with be a good service.
>

Good in theory, however the problem I see is that users will have to wait
that 10 minutes to finish registering their nick and/or any channels that
are wanted registered as well. I was using IRCu and CService style bot and I
found that our biggest complaint was that users didn't like that it involved
such a long process, personally I see nothing wrong with requiring a few
supporters, however I still got complaints. Users wanted instant results, so
I removed the UnderNet style bots and daemon that I like so well and
switched to DALnet's daemon and ircservices. The complaints have stopped. In
short adding a 10 minute cron job may not be the answer.

Another thing is that when I was an oper on DALnet, services would back
themselves up. When this is in process services was very hard to work with,
because the box services is on was running at a high CPU. IF this mail cron
job gets too big in that 10 minute span, you may see the same results.

<snip>


Just my $0.02

Scott Seufert
Network Admin
FlameBait IRC Network
irc.flamebait.org 7000
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From achurch at dragonfire.net  Fri Oct  8 23:28:49 1999
From: achurch at dragonfire.net (Andrew Church)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] what do they think ?
Message-ID: 37fe04a3.00221@dragonfire.net

>i had wrote this function on my services, it is working well, but i wold like
>to hear coments and sugestions on it
>
>it send password information to the nick email (ni->email) and i changed the
>do_register, so users must give a mail

     From a functional standpoint, it's something I'd planned to do for quite
a while.  From an implementation standpoint, I'd hang myself before releasing
code of this quality.  No offense--if it works for you, fine; but there are
numerous potential problems and security holes in this implementation.  To
point out a few: (further comments at the end of the message)

>      lock = fopen(".senpass.nick", "r");

     (1) There's a huge distance between this check and the time the file
is created, leaving a big window for race conditions (except that since
you process this all in the same thread you don't need a lock in the first
place).

     (2) Doing all the processing in the same thread, and especially waiting
for sendmail to finish, will slow down Services immensely.  (Suppose your
sendmail is set to verify recipients' domain names before queueing mail; what
happens if someone registers a nick with an address in a domain they own, and
then shut off the nameserver for that domain?)

     (3) This filename has a typo and so locking wouldn't ever work anyway.

>    } else if (!strchr(ni->email, '@')) {
[...]
>    } else if(strlen(ni->email)>50) {

     This is a pretty weak check on E-mail address syntax.

>       strcpy(illsend,"/usr/sbin/sendmail ");
>       strcat(illsend, ni->email);
>       strcat(illsend," < .sendpass.nick");
[...]
>          system(illsend);

     Lovely.  Suppose I set my E-mail address to "foo@;IFS=.;rm.-rf./"?
Poof, there goes your system (or whatever part of it Services can access--
I hope you're not running as root).  Not to mention the problems you get
with having a bogus "sendmail" in a directory in your PATH.

     For the record, the proper way to do this would be to open a direct SMTP
connection to a known mail server and send the mail over that connection,
using select() to monitor the status of the connection (and timing out in a
reasonable period of time to prevent people from using up all file
descriptors by sending lots of SENDPASS requests).  Note that a proper
implementation of this functionality requires quite a bit of work, including
redoing the main program loop and I/O code to be able to monitor multiple
sockets at once; this is why I never got around to adding this functionality.
If it were as simple as writing a function like the original poster did, I
would have done it long ago.

     Andrew (Kempe):  I'm willing to help you with this if you want, but you
need to be very careful about adding functionality like this; it can turn
into Swiss cheese (security- and stability-wise) if you don't watch out.

  --Andrew Church
    achurch@dragonfire.net
    http://achurch.dragonfire.net/
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From jpinto9 at visteon.com  Fri Oct  8 08:55:27 1999
From: jpinto9 at visteon.com (Pinto, Joao Luis (J.))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] what do they think ?
Message-ID: 199910081610.MAA16486@mailfw1.ford.com

The second option (the mailing server proccess) would be a nice
implementation, however the interprocess communication should use sockets,
this way you could use a remote "mailing" machine and not the services
machine, this should be a important issue.

João Luís Marques Pinto
PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
http://www.PTlink.net  


-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Kempe [<A  HREF="mailto:andrewk@icon.co.za">mailto:andrewk@icon.co.za</A>]
Sent: sexta-feira, 8 de outubro de 1999 14:27
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] what do they think ?


I agree. I was originally going to go for the cron option, but I thought
that the wait would be too long. I was thinking about the following two
options:

1. Get services to run a script, that goes into the background, that will
send the relevant email. The script is run for every email.
2. Get services to communicate with another proccess, which is always
running, informing it of the new email to be sent. This process will then
take care of the nescessary tasks. This option would require that Services
ensures that the process is always running and operational.

Comments?

Andrew



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From net at lite.net  Fri Oct  8 15:28:41 1999
From: net at lite.net (Jonathan George)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] what do they think ?
In-Reply-To: <37fe04a3.00221@dragonfire.net>
References: 37fe04a3.00221@dragonfire.net
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.10.9910081725040.7501&#45;100000@lite.net

Why not use popen() and open a pipe to sendmail, pipe in the information
and then close the pipe?  That way sendmail spawns off a new process,
without requiring the addition of timeout handling etc.

For the record, it's a proven concept that the above method will work -
StarChat (around 1000 concurrent connections at night).

[Note: StarChat doesn't use EsperNet services, this is just an example.]

|     For the record, the proper way to do this would be to open a direct SMTP
|connection to a known mail server and send the mail over that connection,
|using select() to monitor the status of the connection (and timing out in a
|reasonable period of time to prevent people from using up all file
|descriptors by sending lots of SENDPASS requests).  Note that a proper
|implementation of this functionality requires quite a bit of work, including
|redoing the main program loop and I/O code to be able to monitor multiple
|sockets at once; this is why I never got around to adding this functionality.
|If it were as simple as writing a function like the original poster did, I
|would have done it long ago.

------------------------------------------
Jonathan George   (net@lite.net)
Terra World, Inc. (support@terraworld.net)
Programmer        (outlaw@terraworld.net)
Technician        (root@lite.net)

"Never execute code written on a Friday or
a Monday."

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From climber at rionet.com.br  Fri Oct  8 16:49:56 1999
From: climber at rionet.com.br (root of all evil)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] what do they think ?
References: <37fe04a3.00221@dragonfire.net>
Message-ID: 99100820092600.00662@rcmoraes.intranet

Thanks on advices 
i use it on my network only (a smal network); of curse, i dont run anything
related to irc as a root, my sendmail is not configurated to check adress
so it's not a big deal if i do sendmail bla@urg.uf.lu it will just generate a 
mail whith  an error msg, isnt it ? , about the ; it is a big security houle,
i'ill try to make a stricter check on emails, any sugestions ? 
about the bogus sendmail on patch, who wold it be posible ? i cant figure it,
only if i do that (only i have access to the acount)

the problem, to me whith smtp is, that you have to make a email client, to it
work well, sometime ago a brasilian network tried to do somethink like this
(smtp sendmail) but if the email is not valid ,the wole services gone crash

FiGhTeR
Rafael Moraes
irc.rionet.com.br;irc.brasirc.com.br






 On Wed, 31 Dec 1969, you wrote: 
>>i had wrote this function on my services, it is working well, but i wold like 
>>to hear coments and sugestions on it 
>>
>>it send password information to the nick email (ni->email) and i changed the
>>do_register, so users must give a mail
>
>     From a functional standpoint, it's something I'd planned to do for quite
>a while.  From an implementation standpoint, I'd hang myself before releasing
>code of this quality.  No offense--if it works for you, fine; but there are
>numerous potential problems and security holes in this implementation.  To
>point out a few: (further comments at the end of the message)
>
>>      lock = fopen(".senpass.nick", "r");
>
>     (1) There's a huge distance between this check and the time the file
>is created, leaving a big window for race conditions (except that since
>you process this all in the same thread you don't need a lock in the first
>place).
>
>     (2) Doing all the processing in the same thread, and especially waiting
>for sendmail to finish, will slow down Services immensely.  (Suppose your
>sendmail is set to verify recipients' domain names before queueing mail; what
>happens if someone registers a nick with an address in a domain they own, and
>then shut off the nameserver for that domain?)
>
>     (3) This filename has a typo and so locking wouldn't ever work anyway.
>
>>    } else if (!strchr(ni->email, '@')) {
>[...]
>>    } else if(strlen(ni->email)>50) {
>
>     This is a pretty weak check on E-mail address syntax.
>
>>       strcpy(illsend,"/usr/sbin/sendmail ");
>>       strcat(illsend, ni->email);
>>       strcat(illsend," < .sendpass.nick");
>[...]
>>          system(illsend);
>
>     Lovely.  Suppose I set my E-mail address to "foo@;IFS=.;rm.-rf./"?
>Poof, there goes your system (or whatever part of it Services can access--
>I hope you're not running as root).  Not to mention the problems you get
>with having a bogus "sendmail" in a directory in your PATH.
>
>     For the record, the proper way to do this would be to open a direct SMTP
>connection to a known mail server and send the mail over that connection,
>using select() to monitor the status of the connection (and timing out in a
>reasonable period of time to prevent people from using up all file
>descriptors by sending lots of SENDPASS requests).  Note that a proper
>implementation of this functionality requires quite a bit of work, including
>redoing the main program loop and I/O code to be able to monitor multiple
>sockets at once; this is why I never got around to adding this functionality.
>If it were as simple as writing a function like the original poster did, I
>would have done it long ago.
>
>     Andrew (Kempe):  I'm willing to help you with this if you want, but you
>need to be very careful about adding functionality like this; it can turn
>into Swiss cheese (security- and stability-wise) if you don't watch out.
>
>  --Andrew Church
>    achurch@dragonfire.net
>    http://achurch.dragonfire.net/
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From achurch at dragonfire.net  Sat Oct  9 10:41:48 1999
From: achurch at dragonfire.net (Andrew Church)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] what do they think ?
Message-ID: 37fe9efc.00354@dragonfire.net

>Why not use popen() and open a pipe to sendmail, pipe in the information
>and then close the pipe?  That way sendmail spawns off a new process,
>without requiring the addition of timeout handling etc.

     This requires the overhead of spawning a new process for every
request, which can lead to a denial of resources attack on the whole
system if someone really tries, as opposed to a DoS on Services alone.
(You could get around this by imposing a process limit.)  It also relies
on the fact that the machine running Services has a sendmail that works
the way you expect--this is not a given, believe it or not.

>For the record, it's a proven concept that the above method will work -
>StarChat (around 1000 concurrent connections at night).

     "Works" and "works under all conditions" aren't quite the same thing.
If your code works for you, fine; but for a program designed to work
across many different environments such as Services, "works" just isn't
enough.

  --Andrew Church
    achurch@dragonfire.net
    http://achurch.dragonfire.net/
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From raff at ElectroCity.com  Sat Oct  9 11:27:32 1999
From: raff at ElectroCity.com (Michael Raff)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] akick enforce bug
In-Reply-To: <37fe9efc.00354@dragonfire.net>
References: 37fe9efc.00354@dragonfire.net
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.05.9910092025520.1368&#45;100000@Crystal.ElectroCity.com

Hi

I have not had a chance to look at code myself to see what is going on,
but this has happened twice in the last few hours :-

[Oct 09 14:18:51 1999] PANIC! buffer = :Seaker PRIVMSG chanserv :akick
#crawford enforce
[Oct 09 14:18:51 1999] Services terminating: Segmentation fault


[Oct 09 20:20:27 1999] PANIC! buffer = :Battty PRIVMSG chanserv :akick
#16-18teens enforce  
[Oct 09 20:20:27 1999] Services terminating: Segmentation fault


Will need to disable command until sorted out.

Regards
Michael


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From gregk at netsport.org  Sat Oct  9 12:38:15 1999
From: gregk at netsport.org (Gregory L King)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] akick enforce bug
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.05.9910092025520.1368-100000@Crystal.ElectroCity.com>
References: Pine.LNX.4.05.9910092025520.1368&#45;100000@Crystal.ElectroCity.com
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.3.96.991009123758.6380A&#45;100000@netsport

I tested it on my services, and didnt have a problem



On Sat, 9 Oct 1999, Michael Raff wrote:

> Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 20:27:32 +0200 (SAT)
> From: Michael Raff <raff@ElectroCity.com>
> Reply-To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: [IRCServices] akick enforce bug
> 
> Hi
> 
> I have not had a chance to look at code myself to see what is going on,
> but this has happened twice in the last few hours :-
> 
> [Oct 09 14:18:51 1999] PANIC! buffer = :Seaker PRIVMSG chanserv :akick
> #crawford enforce
> [Oct 09 14:18:51 1999] Services terminating: Segmentation fault
> 
> 
> [Oct 09 20:20:27 1999] PANIC! buffer = :Battty PRIVMSG chanserv :akick
> #16-18teens enforce  
> [Oct 09 20:20:27 1999] Services terminating: Segmentation fault
> 
> 
> Will need to disable command until sorted out.
> 
> Regards
> Michael
> 
> 
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From scotts at flamebait.org  Sat Oct  9 19:13:14 1999
From: scotts at flamebait.org (Scott Seufert)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] akick enforce bug
Message-ID: 19991009231650171.AAA215@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.17]

should would be nice to know what version of services you have ....

----------
>From: Michael Raff <raff@ElectroCity.com>
>To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
>Subject: [IRCServices] akick enforce bug
>Date: Sat, Oct 9, 1999, 11:27 AM
>

> Hi
>
> I have not had a chance to look at code myself to see what is going on,
> but this has happened twice in the last few hours :-
>
> [Oct 09 14:18:51 1999] PANIC! buffer = :Seaker PRIVMSG chanserv :akick
> #crawford enforce
> [Oct 09 14:18:51 1999] Services terminating: Segmentation fault
>
>
> [Oct 09 20:20:27 1999] PANIC! buffer = :Battty PRIVMSG chanserv :akick
> #16-18teens enforce
> [Oct 09 20:20:27 1999] Services terminating: Segmentation fault
>
>
> Will need to disable command until sorted out.
>
> Regards
> Michael
>
>
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From Key_Master at dal.net  Sat Oct  9 16:25:24 1999
From: Key_Master at dal.net (John Lamb)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Sendpass code
Message-ID: 3.0.6.32.19991009192524.0079ab40@mail.potomacnet.com

Can the individual who sent the sendpass code (or anyone else that still
has it), please resend it.

Thanks,
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From raff at ElectroCity.com  Sat Oct  9 16:37:55 1999
From: raff at ElectroCity.com (Michael Raff)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] akick enforce bug
In-Reply-To: <19991009231650171.AAA215@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.17]>
References: 19991009231650171.AAA215@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.17]
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.05.9910100136340.1368&#45;100000@Crystal.ElectroCity.com

Hi

Sorry about the silly oversight :)

ircservices-4.3.2

Cheers
Michael

On Sat, 9 Oct 1999, Scott Seufert wrote:

> should would be nice to know what version of services you have ....
> 
> ----------
> >From: Michael Raff <raff@ElectroCity.com>
> >To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> >Subject: [IRCServices] akick enforce bug
> >Date: Sat, Oct 9, 1999, 11:27 AM
> >
> 
> > Hi
> >
> > I have not had a chance to look at code myself to see what is going on,
> > but this has happened twice in the last few hours :-
> >
> > [Oct 09 14:18:51 1999] PANIC! buffer = :Seaker PRIVMSG chanserv :akick
> > #crawford enforce
> > [Oct 09 14:18:51 1999] Services terminating: Segmentation fault
> >
> >
> > [Oct 09 20:20:27 1999] PANIC! buffer = :Battty PRIVMSG chanserv :akick
> > #16-18teens enforce
> > [Oct 09 20:20:27 1999] Services terminating: Segmentation fault
> >
> >
> > Will need to disable command until sorted out.
> >
> > Regards
> > Michael
> >
> >
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From ianj at esper.net  Mon Oct 11 00:05:00 1999
From: ianj at esper.net (Ian R. Justman)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] what do they think ?
In-Reply-To: <37fe04a3.00221@dragonfire.net>
References: 37fe04a3.00221@dragonfire.net
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.3.96.991010233519.30738G&#45;100000@vector.chocobo.org

On Fri, 8 Oct 1999, Andrew Church wrote:

>      For the record, the proper way to do this would be to open a direct SMTP
> connection to a known mail server and send the mail over that connection,
> using select() to monitor the status of the connection (and timing out in a
> reasonable period of time to prevent people from using up all file
> descriptors by sending lots of SENDPASS requests).  Note that a proper
> implementation of this functionality requires quite a bit of work, including
> redoing the main program loop and I/O code to be able to monitor multiple
> sockets at once; this is why I never got around to adding this functionality.
> If it were as simple as writing a function like the original poster did, I
> would have done it long ago.

Listar and Majordomo 2 are examples of mailing list software which make
use of what Andy's discussing here.  SmartList and Majordomo 1.9x all use
an invocation of sendmail from the command line.

Though if using a sendmail command line is your cup of tea, the best thing
to do is to read up on what's safe for CGI code because this is along
those same lines, notably sanitizing command lines, the environment, etc. 

Furthermore, if your MTA understands the sendmail -bs command (or
something similar), you can still write SMTP code, but then, you can
communicate either via a pipe (command line) or a socket (network
connection).

Plus I myself would use a considerably safer MTA, such as Postfix, which
is what I use for my own personal mailserver and EsperNet's server.  None
of it runs setuid to ANY user, and only what absolutely needs to run as
root is running as root (only one process, specif. master which grabs port
25, does local delivery, etc). 

Just food for thought. :)

--Ian R. Justman, Co-Founder and Postmaster, The EsperNet IRC Network.

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From ianj at esper.net  Mon Oct 11 00:28:46 1999
From: ianj at esper.net (Ian R. Justman)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] A reminder...
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.3.96.991011000933.30738K&#45;100000@vector.chocobo.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----


Hi, all.

Just a gentle reminder, please refrain from associating The EsperNet IRC
Network and the EsperNet name with the Services for IRC Networks code.  We
are not in any way, shape, or form associated with the development of this
software other than we are the first, and like you folks on this list,
very satisfied users of this software.

The software's original author, Andrew Church, and I happen to also be
EsperNet's co-founders, and thus we are the very first to use this
software.

However, as I have mentioned once before, this association has led many
people to wander into #dragonweyr, our official help channel, to get
technical support for the software.

Don't get me wrong; we appreciate the recognition. But the staff in there
are IRC operators, many of which know little to nothing about C, RFC
1459's intricacies, or even UNIX.

We have stated in our topic that #dragonweyr is -NOT- for help with
Services for IRC Networks, but help for EsperNet's users.  Many people
either don't pay close enough attention and ask anyway or obstinately
mitigate their question by stating that it is operational in nature and
therefore does not deal with the code directly.  This is analogous to
giving help for DALnet, GalaxyChat, whatever, in EsperNet's own official
channel. 

Andrew (Kempe or Church, either of ya can help me with this one):  What's
the "official" website/distribution point(s) for Services nowadays?  That
way we can update EsperNet's page to make sure people are pointed in the
right direction.  Right now, I have people heading for
http://achurch.dragonfire.net/services for the website, though I'm not
sure if this is still considered the software's "official" site.

Thank you all for your co-operation and for helping to make the software
what it is today. :) 

- --Ian R. Justman, Co-Founder and Postmaster, The EsperNet IRC Network.

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From Key_Master at dal.net  Mon Oct 11 02:35:30 1999
From: Key_Master at dal.net (John Lamb)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] A reminder...
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.991011000933.30738K-100000@vector.chocobo.org>
References: Pine.LNX.3.96.991011000933.30738K&#45;100000@vector.chocobo.org
Message-ID: 3.0.6.32.19991011053530.0079be10@mail.potomacnet.com

Official download site of Services:

FTP to ender.shadowfire.org. Services are located under the
/pub/ircservices/ directory.

- K

John Lamb
Key_Master@dal.net
paradise.dal.net

At 12:28 AM 10/11/99 -0700, Ian R. Justman wrote:
>
<snip>
>
>Andrew (Kempe or Church, either of ya can help me with this one):  What's
>the "official" website/distribution point(s) for Services nowadays?  That
>way we can update EsperNet's page to make sure people are pointed in the
>right direction.  Right now, I have people heading for
>http://achurch.dragonfire.net/services for the website, though I'm not
>sure if this is still considered the software's "official" site.
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From achurch at dragonfire.net  Mon Oct 11 23:42:29 1999
From: achurch at dragonfire.net (Andrew Church)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] A reminder...
Message-ID: 3801f9f8.00241@dragonfire.net

>Just a gentle reminder, please refrain from associating The EsperNet IRC
>Network and the EsperNet name with the Services for IRC Networks code.  We
>are not in any way, shape, or form associated with the development of this
>software other than we are the first, and like you folks on this list,
>very satisfied users of this software.
>
>The software's original author, Andrew Church, and I happen to also be
>EsperNet's co-founders, and thus we are the very first to use this
>software.

     I have to admit, this tendency to refer to the program as
"EsperNet Services" is probably my fault for not coming up with a more
distinctive name.  As has been pointed out to me in the past, it's hard
to come up with a more general name than "Services" for a piece of
server-side software, so I figure people stuck on "EsperNet" so they
could talk about it with other people and not have the other people go
"Huh?  What services?"

     However, as Ian has also stated, there was never any intention to
associate EsperNet and my Services program, and since the association
can lead people to mistakenly think they can get help with it on
EsperNet, please refrain from using the EsperNet name when referring to
Services.  Andrew Kempe has given it the somewhat more specific name
"IRC Services", so hopefully that should do for now.

     Maybe we need a naming contest of some sort?

>Andrew (Kempe or Church, either of ya can help me with this one):  What's
>the "official" website/distribution point(s) for Services nowadays?

     The FTP site is: ftp://ender.shadowfire.org/pub/ircservices/
This is listed on my own page.

     Andrew (Kempe), do you have a web site for Services up yet?  If so,
I'll set up a redirect from my page.

  --Andrew Church
    achurch@dragonfire.net
    <A  HREF="http://achurch.dragonfire.net/">http://achurch.dragonfire.net/</A>
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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Mon Oct 11 13:42:54 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] A reminder...
In-Reply-To: <3801f9f8.00241@dragonfire.net>
References: 3801f9f8.00241@dragonfire.net
Message-ID: 000001bf1429$31995410$0100a8c0@shadow

Website is at:

        http://ender.shadowfire.org/ircservices/

Andrew

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> [<A  HREF="mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On">mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On</A> Behalf Of Andrew
> Church
> Sent: 11 October 1999 16:42
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] A reminder...
>
>
> >Just a gentle reminder, please refrain from associating The EsperNet IRC
> >Network and the EsperNet name with the Services for IRC Networks
> code.  We
> >are not in any way, shape, or form associated with the
> development of this
> >software other than we are the first, and like you folks on this list,
> >very satisfied users of this software.
> >
> >The software's original author, Andrew Church, and I happen to also be
> >EsperNet's co-founders, and thus we are the very first to use this
> >software.
>
>      I have to admit, this tendency to refer to the program as
> "EsperNet Services" is probably my fault for not coming up with a more
> distinctive name.  As has been pointed out to me in the past, it's hard
> to come up with a more general name than "Services" for a piece of
> server-side software, so I figure people stuck on "EsperNet" so they
> could talk about it with other people and not have the other people go
> "Huh?  What services?"
>
>      However, as Ian has also stated, there was never any intention to
> associate EsperNet and my Services program, and since the association
> can lead people to mistakenly think they can get help with it on
> EsperNet, please refrain from using the EsperNet name when referring to
> Services.  Andrew Kempe has given it the somewhat more specific name
> "IRC Services", so hopefully that should do for now.
>
>      Maybe we need a naming contest of some sort?
>
> >Andrew (Kempe or Church, either of ya can help me with this one):  What's
> >the "official" website/distribution point(s) for Services nowadays?
>
>      The FTP site is: <A  HREF="ftp://ender.shadowfire.org/pub/ircservices/">ftp://ender.shadowfire.org/pub/ircservices/</A>
> This is listed on my own page.
>
>      Andrew (Kempe), do you have a web site for Services up yet?  If so,
> I'll set up a redirect from my page.
>
>   --Andrew Church
>     achurch@dragonfire.net
>     <A  HREF="http://achurch.dragonfire.net/">http://achurch.dragonfire.net/</A>
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From BeenJaminG at aol.com  Mon Oct 11 13:52:12 1999
From: BeenJaminG at aol.com (BeenJaminG@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] A reminder...
Message-ID: 0.efc97b82.2533a7fc@aol.com

In a message dated 10/11/99 12:01:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
achurch@dragonfire.net writes:


>  Andrew Kempe has given it the somewhat more specific name
>  "IRC Services", so hopefully that should do for now.
>  
>       Maybe we need a naming contest of some sort?

Personally, I liked the name "Church services",
even though it was a joke :P

I'm sure with everyone on this list, we could come up with a
good name for services if there was some kind of contest :)

- bstu
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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Mon Oct 11 14:03:56 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] A reminder...
In-Reply-To: <0.efc97b82.2533a7fc@aol.com>
References: 0.efc97b82.2533a7fc@aol.com
Message-ID: 000601bf142c$21e9f300$0100a8c0@shadow

Personally I'd like to use a name that does not need "Services" appended to
it to make sense. Talking about "Church" makes no sense. However, if it was
named "Bahamut Services", then simply talking about "Bahamut" would make
sense.

Just a thought :)

Andrew

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of
> BeenJaminG@aol.com
> Sent: 11 October 1999 22:52
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] A reminder...
>
>
> In a message dated 10/11/99 12:01:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> achurch@dragonfire.net writes:
>
>
> >  Andrew Kempe has given it the somewhat more specific name
> >  "IRC Services", so hopefully that should do for now.
> >
> >       Maybe we need a naming contest of some sort?
>
> Personally, I liked the name "Church services",
> even though it was a joke :P
>
> I'm sure with everyone on this list, we could come up with a
> good name for services if there was some kind of contest :)
>
> - bstu
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From scotts at flamebait.org  Mon Oct 11 18:38:42 1999
From: scotts at flamebait.org (Scott Seufert)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] A reminder...
Message-ID: 19991011224202850.AAA230@stream.qx.net@[208.235.88.25]



----------
>From: "Andrew Kempe" <andrewk@icon.co.za>
>To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
>Subject: RE: [IRCServices] A reminder...
>Date: Mon, Oct 11, 1999, 2:03 PM
>

> Personally I'd like to use a name that does not need "Services" appended to
> it to make sense. Talking about "Church" makes no sense. However, if it was
> named "Bahamut Services", then simply talking about "Bahamut" would make
> sense.
>

not really, cuz then are you talkin about the AD&D Dragon King, daemon or
services? I think that services HAS to be attached so that others know what
you are talkin about. Unless you can find a name that is unique that don't
have the word "services" in it ... like Unets "Uworld" or "CServ".

> Just a thought :)
>
> Andrew
>
<snip>


just my $0.02


kat
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From BeenJaminG at aol.com  Mon Oct 11 17:25:53 1999
From: BeenJaminG at aol.com (BeenJaminG@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] A reminder...
Message-ID: 0.f5742b1d.2533da11@aol.com

In a message dated 10/11/99 6:59:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
scotts@flamebait.org writes:

> > Personally I'd like to use a name that does not need "Services" appended 
to
>  > it to make sense. Talking about "Church" makes no sense. However, if it 
> was
>  > named "Bahamut Services", then simply talking about "Bahamut" would make
>  > sense.
>  >
>  
>  not really, cuz then are you talkin about the AD&D Dragon King, daemon or
>  services? I think that services HAS to be attached so that others know what
>  you are talkin about. Unless you can find a name that is unique that don't
>  have the word "services" in it ... like Unets "Uworld" or "CServ".
>  
True, look at "Magick"- (bad example).. maybe we could
come up with some name that could be associated with IRC services
just like magick was. In my opinion, "services" isn't really a good name
for this program- the word is too broad on the internet. If you were
specificly talking about IRC yeah, but otherwise it needs a real name!

Just my opinion :P

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From joshd at crutchfield.com  Tue Oct 12 06:26:00 1999
From: joshd at crutchfield.com (Joshua)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] A reminder...
In-Reply-To: <DD775087654ED311A8DF009027A8F48D0105CE8D@MAILMAN>
References: DD775087654ED311A8DF009027A8F48D0105CE8D@MAILMAN
Message-ID: DD775087654ED311A8DF009027A8F48DA3D544@MAILMAN

How about Cervices?

The "C" can be taken as "Chat" or "Church" and we don't lose the mnemonic.
The unique spelling will allow us to speak of it in the singular without
having to append any other words to it.

Just a suggestion <g>

Lafe


>> Personally I'd like to use a name that does not need "Services" appended
to
>> it to make sense. Talking about "Church" makes no sense. However, if it
was
>> named "Bahamut Services", then simply talking about "Bahamut" would make
>> sense.
>>

>not really, cuz then are you talkin about the AD&D Dragon King, daemon or
>services? I think that services HAS to be attached so that others know what
>you are talkin about. Unless you can find a name that is unique that don't
>have the word "services" in it ... like Unets "Uworld" or "CServ".

>> Just a thought :)
>>
>> Andrew
>>
><snip>

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From natey at capetown.za.org  Tue Oct 12 16:45:36 1999
From: natey at capetown.za.org (Natey on IRC)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Info about IRC Services
In-Reply-To: <19991006003224383.AAA388@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.91]>
References: 19991006003224383.AAA388@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.91]
Message-ID: 3.0.5.32.19991013014536.008c7d00@capetown.za.org

At 08:29 PM 05/10/99 -0700, you wrote:
>> Also, I'm wondering if anyone has written a decent StatServ that can give
>> back a map of how servers are connected?
>>
>> server1.test.net
>> `-server2.test.net
>>   |-server3.test.net
>>   | |-server4.test.net
>>   | `-services.test.net
>>   |-server5.test.net
>> etc. etc.
>>
>
>IMHO, /links does a very good job at showing you your network topography.

Not all IRC Clients show everything in the links. some only show the first
29 servers and not the rest. :(

Regards
Natey

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From jpinto9 at visteon.com  Wed Oct 13 00:01:52 1999
From: jpinto9 at visteon.com (Pinto, Joao Luis (J.))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:51 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Info about IRC Services
Message-ID: 199910130701.DAA17366@mailfw1.ford.com

Ufff, this subject again ? Like most of people said, lots of IRC clients
support the /map command that will display the full list and structure of
the network,  just check it on /server irc.ptlink.net, that's not client
dependent but server dependent.

Regards,
João Luís Marques Pinto
PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
http://www.PTlink.net  




-----Original Message-----
From: Natey on IRC [<A  HREF="mailto:natey@capetown.za.org">mailto:natey@capetown.za.org</A>]
Sent: quarta-feira, 13 de outubro de 1999 0:46
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Info about IRC Services


At 08:29 PM 05/10/99 -0700, you wrote:
>> Also, I'm wondering if anyone has written a decent StatServ that can give
>> back a map of how servers are connected?
>>
>> server1.test.net
>> `-server2.test.net
>>   |-server3.test.net
>>   | |-server4.test.net
>>   | `-services.test.net
>>   |-server5.test.net
>> etc. etc.
>>
>
>IMHO, /links does a very good job at showing you your network topography.

Not all IRC Clients show everything in the links. some only show the first
29 servers and not the rest. :(

Regards
Natey

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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Thu Oct 14 12:01:02 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ircservices-4.3.3 released
Message-ID: NCBBIPDDJGGDOCPMKPKPOEFPCOAA.andrewk@icon.co.za

This is a bug fix release. It fixes the problem associated with enforcing
the akick list on an empty channel.

It is known that the CS LIST [FORBIDDEN|NOEXPIRE] functionality, available
in previous versions, managed to get lost somewhere along the line (most
likely during the handover from Andy to myself - sorry folks). This will
only be re-added in the next major release - not in the current line of bug
fixes. If you desperately want this back, mail me and I'll provide you with
a patch that _only_ adds the functionality - there will be _no_ updated help
/ syntax replies.

The latest version can be downloaded from the usual places:

        ftp://ender.shadowfire.org/pub/ircservices/ircservices-4.3.3.tar.gz
        <A  HREF="ftp://ender.shadowfire.org/pub/ircservices/ircservices-4.3.3.diff">ftp://ender.shadowfire.org/pub/ircservices/ircservices-4.3.3.diff</A>

Mirrors (should be updated by 6am GMT 15/10/99):

        <A  HREF="ftp://ftp.electrocity.com/pub/ircservices/ircservices-4.3.3.tar.gz">ftp://ftp.electrocity.com/pub/ircservices/ircservices-4.3.3.tar.gz</A>
        <A  HREF="ftp://ftp.electrocity.com/pub/ircservices/ircservices-4.3.3.diff">ftp://ftp.electrocity.com/pub/ircservices/ircservices-4.3.3.diff</A>

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From lm at ajuda.org  Mon Oct 18 09:06:39 1999
From: lm at ajuda.org (Leandro Maciel)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] bug: where's the topic and modes?
Message-ID: 003b01bf1982$c38cf120$0100000a@lm

hi all

sometimes when i join in my channel, chanserv don't set the topic and modes,
chanserv only set mode +o my nick, like this:

*** Now talking in #artnocod
[#] [+o/1 | -o/0 | +v/0 | t/1]
[#] [mode(#artnocod) +o Lm ] by  ChanServ

if i use the command, /msg chanserv clear #Artnocod USERS, chanserv kick me
and set the topic and modes,  what is the problem? i guess it's like a
little desynch between the server and services, it's possible?

Leandro Maciel
lm@ajuda.org
Campos - Rj - Brazil

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From gregk at netsport.org  Mon Oct 18 10:40:21 1999
From: gregk at netsport.org (Gregory L King)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] bug: where's the topic and modes?
In-Reply-To: <003b01bf1982$c38cf120$0100000a@lm>
References: 003b01bf1982$c38cf120$0100000a@lm
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.3.96.991018103948.13029A&#45;100000@netsport

Ive had that problem before as well.  And, my investigation revealed it
was a de-sync issue.



On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Leandro Maciel wrote:

> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:06:39 -0200
> From: Leandro Maciel <lm@ajuda.org>
> Reply-To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: [IRCServices] bug: where's the topic and modes?
> 
> hi all
> 
> sometimes when i join in my channel, chanserv don't set the topic and modes,
> chanserv only set mode +o my nick, like this:
> 
> *** Now talking in #artnocod
> [#] [+o/1 | -o/0 | +v/0 | t/1]
> [#] [mode(#artnocod) +o Lm ] by  ChanServ
> 
> if i use the command, /msg chanserv clear #Artnocod USERS, chanserv kick me
> and set the topic and modes,  what is the problem? i guess it's like a
> little desynch between the server and services, it's possible?
> 
> Leandro Maciel
> lm@ajuda.org
> Campos - Rj - Brazil
> 
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From joshodom at uswest.net  Tue Oct 19 04:08:35 1999
From: joshodom at uswest.net (Josh Odom)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] bug: where's the topic and modes?
In-Reply-To: <003b01bf1982$c38cf120$0100000a@lm>
References: 003b01bf1982$c38cf120$0100000a@lm
Message-ID: LPBBJAFILGFOEJJPBKDKGEBPCAAA.joshodom@uswest.net

What IRCD are you using?

Josh Odom
NeoStation Network Administer
Server: neostation.dyndns.org

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
[mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of Leandro
Maciel
Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 10:07 AM
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: [IRCServices] bug: where's the topic and modes?


hi all

sometimes when i join in my channel, chanserv don't set the topic and modes,
chanserv only set mode +o my nick, like this:

*** Now talking in #artnocod
[#] [+o/1 | -o/0 | +v/0 | t/1]
[#] [mode(#artnocod) +o Lm ] by  ChanServ

if i use the command, /msg chanserv clear #Artnocod USERS, chanserv kick me
and set the topic and modes,  what is the problem? i guess it's like a
little desynch between the server and services, it's possible?

Leandro Maciel
lm@ajuda.org
Campos - Rj - Brazil

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From scotts at flamebait.org  Mon Oct 18 20:31:47 1999
From: scotts at flamebait.org (Scott Seufert)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] bug: where's the topic and modes?
References: <LPBBJAFILGFOEJJPBKDKGEBPCAAA.joshodom@uswest.net>
Message-ID: 380BE620.D1D00B2F@flamebait.org


Services version would be nice too please ...


Josh Odom wrote:
> 
> What IRCD are you using?
> 
> Josh Odom
> NeoStation Network Administer
> Server: neostation.dyndns.org
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of Leandro
> Maciel
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 10:07 AM
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: [IRCServices] bug: where's the topic and modes?
> 
> hi all
> 
> sometimes when i join in my channel, chanserv don't set the topic and modes,
> chanserv only set mode +o my nick, like this:
> 
> *** Now talking in #artnocod
> [#] [+o/1 | -o/0 | +v/0 | t/1]
> [#] [mode(#artnocod) +o Lm ] by  ChanServ
> 
> if i use the command, /msg chanserv clear #Artnocod USERS, chanserv kick me
> and set the topic and modes,  what is the problem? i guess it's like a
> little desynch between the server and services, it's possible?
> 
> Leandro Maciel
> lm@ajuda.org
> Campos - Rj - Brazil
> 

kat
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From lm at ajuda.org  Tue Oct 19 08:51:26 1999
From: lm at ajuda.org (Leandro Maciel)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] bug: where's the topic and modes?
Message-ID: 001101bf1a49$cdf54000$0100000a@lm

about my last mail

services version : 4.1.2
ircd version: ircd-dal4.4.10
system: Linux

thanks for help :)

Leandro Maciel
lm@ajuda.org
Campos - RJ - Brazil

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From scotts at flamebait.org  Tue Oct 19 18:43:54 1999
From: scotts at flamebait.org (Scott Seufert)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] bug: where's the topic and modes?
References: <001101bf1a49$cdf54000$0100000a@lm>
Message-ID: 380D1E4C.BB21AE0A@flamebait.org

I didn't run this exact combination .. I have 4.3.2 and DAL4.6.7 and it
seems to work fine for me ... you may concider upgrading.

Leandro Maciel wrote:
> 
> about my last mail
> 
> services version : 4.1.2
> ircd version: ircd-dal4.4.10
> system: Linux
> 
> thanks for help :)
> 
> Leandro Maciel
> lm@ajuda.org
> Campos - RJ - Brazil
> 
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From gregk at netsport.org  Tue Oct 19 16:44:21 1999
From: gregk at netsport.org (Gregory L King)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] bug: where's the topic and modes?
In-Reply-To: <380D1E4C.BB21AE0A@flamebait.org>
References: 380D1E4C.BB21AE0A@flamebait.org
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.3.96.991019164224.18526A&#45;100000@netsport

I run the same configuration, and have experienced simular problems.  I
wrote Andrew and email about it, and he suggested I join the mailing list.

Anyways, my experiences indicate it is a de-sync problem, and restarting
the services fixes it.  I would upgrade, but we have made many mods to the
stock code, and well...  I dont feel like starting from scratch just yet
:>



On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Scott Seufert wrote:

> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:43:54 -0700
> From: Scott Seufert <scotts@flamebait.org>
> Reply-To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] bug: where's the topic and modes?
> 
> I didn't run this exact combination .. I have 4.3.2 and DAL4.6.7 and it
> seems to work fine for me ... you may concider upgrading.
> 
> Leandro Maciel wrote:
> > 
> > about my last mail
> > 
> > services version : 4.1.2
> > ircd version: ircd-dal4.4.10
> > system: Linux
> > 
> > thanks for help :)
> > 
> > Leandro Maciel
> > lm@ajuda.org
> > Campos - RJ - Brazil
> > 
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From scotts at flamebait.org  Tue Oct 19 21:56:23 1999
From: scotts at flamebait.org (Scott Seufert)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] bug: where's the topic and modes?
References: <Pine.LNX.3.96.991019164224.18526A-100000@netsport>
Message-ID: 380D4B65.5D6AF79B@flamebait.org

what about the chance of upgrading your IRC Server? ...There was a
discussion a few weeks ago involving ping time outs between services and
servers. This is a guess and most likely a long shot however it may be
worth trying. If you were to shorten the ping frequency between the IRC
server and the Services .. it may make the de-synch less likely to
happen .. I have no other advice at this time. Sence the servers and
services communicate more often ... it may de-synch less.


Gregory L King wrote:
> 
> I run the same configuration, and have experienced simular problems.  I
> wrote Andrew and email about it, and he suggested I join the mailing list.
> 
> Anyways, my experiences indicate it is a de-sync problem, and restarting
> the services fixes it.  I would upgrade, but we have made many mods to the
> stock code, and well...  I dont feel like starting from scratch just yet
> :>
> 

<snip>

My $0.02

kat
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From fabulous at brasnet.org  Tue Oct 19 18:53:27 1999
From: fabulous at brasnet.org (Fabulous)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] bug: where's the topic and modes?
References: <Pine.LNX.3.96.991019164224.18526A-100000@netsport>
Message-ID: 380D2097.A3F34E87@brasnet.org

Gregory L King wrote:
> 
> I run the same configuration, and have experienced simular problems.  I
> wrote Andrew and email about it, and he suggested I join the mailing list.
> 
> Anyways, my experiences indicate it is a de-sync problem, and restarting
> the services fixes it.  I would upgrade, but we have made many mods to the
> stock code, and well...  I dont feel like starting from scratch just yet
> :>

        IMHO, if services tries to set a mode on a channel but one(or more)
server don't let it does it for more than 3 times, it shows "Warning:
unable to set modes on channel #ANYCHANNEL. Are your servers' U:lines
configured correctly?" and just ignore that channel's modes.. so you'll
need to restart services to remove the ignore.. :]

-- 
[]'s, Fabulous.
irc.telemar.com.br [BRASnet]
www.t7ds.com.br [t7DS]
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From gregk at netsport.org  Tue Oct 19 20:36:54 1999
From: gregk at netsport.org (Gregory L King)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] bug: where's the topic and modes?
In-Reply-To: <380D4B65.5D6AF79B@flamebait.org>
References: 380D4B65.5D6AF79B@flamebait.org
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.3.96.991019203600.19239A&#45;100000@netsport

it isnt a problem.  The desync has happened maybe once in 3 months.
Restarting services 4 times a year isnt a problem for me.

Thanks though :>



On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Scott Seufert wrote:

> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:56:23 -0700
> From: Scott Seufert <scotts@flamebait.org>
> Reply-To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] bug: where's the topic and modes?
> 
> what about the chance of upgrading your IRC Server? ...There was a
> discussion a few weeks ago involving ping time outs between services and
> servers. This is a guess and most likely a long shot however it may be
> worth trying. If you were to shorten the ping frequency between the IRC
> server and the Services .. it may make the de-synch less likely to
> happen .. I have no other advice at this time. Sence the servers and
> services communicate more often ... it may de-synch less.
> 
> 
> Gregory L King wrote:
> > 
> > I run the same configuration, and have experienced simular problems.  I
> > wrote Andrew and email about it, and he suggested I join the mailing list.
> > 
> > Anyways, my experiences indicate it is a de-sync problem, and restarting
> > the services fixes it.  I would upgrade, but we have made many mods to the
> > stock code, and well...  I dont feel like starting from scratch just yet
> > :>
> > 
> 
> <snip>
> 
> My $0.02
> 
> kat
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From achurch at dragonfire.net  Wed Oct 20 22:28:17 1999
From: achurch at dragonfire.net (Andrew Church)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] bug: where's the topic and modes?
Message-ID: 380dc469.00514@dragonfire.net

     As some have mentioned, I suspect this is a desync problem--it looks
like Services thinks there are some users on the channel when there aren't
any in reality, and that's why a CLEAR USERS would have fixed the problem.
There might be something in the log file at that point along the lines of
"SomeNick isn't on channel #somechannel" (reported by the uplink server).
I recall getting the impression at some point that that problem was more
frequent with Undernet-based IRC servers, but that could be my imagination.
This could also be related to the problem reported earlier where Services
inputs only part of a line and attempts to process it, resulting in some
IRC messages not getting processed.

  --Andrew Church
    achurch@dragonfire.net
    http://achurch.dragonfire.net/
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From ircservices at pop3.uol.com.br  Wed Oct 20 10:26:14 1999
From: ircservices at pop3.uol.com.br (Marcus Maciel (ScOrP|On))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] local_check_header
Message-ID: 3.0.5.32.19991020152614.0079cb90@pop3.uol.com.br

testing
     ####  ###   ### #####                 #
    ##  ## ###   ### ##  ##               ##
   ##      #### #### ##  ## #####   #### ####
   ##      #### #### #####  ##  ## ##  ## ##
   ##      ## # # ## ##  ## ##  ## ###### ##
   ##      ## ### ## ##  ## ##  ## ##     ##
    ##  ## ## ### ## ##  ## ##  ## ##  ## ##
     ####  ##  #  ## #####  ##  ##  ####   ##
      Admins: Marcus Maciel e David Faulstich
                (ScOrP|On)      (The_Edge)
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From joshodom at uswest.net  Wed Oct 20 19:16:16 1999
From: joshodom at uswest.net (Josh Odom)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Guest Nick Error
In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19991020152614.0079cb90@pop3.uol.com.br>
References: 3.0.5.32.19991020152614.0079cb90@pop3.uol.com.br
Message-ID: LPBBJAFILGFOEJJPBKDKIECBCAAA.joshodom@uswest.net

Hey Guys,

I am not so sure about how the "Guest Nick System" Works. We are using
Services-4.3.3 (with a few of my personal modifications) It changed our
nicks at the exact same time and to the exact same nick...

[11:05]*** Shadow is now known as Guest38040
[11:05]*** Ecliptic is now known as Guest38040

Don't know if this has happened to anyone else but it could be a problem for
larger networks...


Josh Odom
joshodom@uswest.net



PS: Anyone who still has the SENDPASS code, can you please send it to me?
THX

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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Wed Oct 20 23:22:59 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Guest Nick Error
In-Reply-To: <LPBBJAFILGFOEJJPBKDKIECBCAAA.joshodom@uswest.net>
References: LPBBJAFILGFOEJJPBKDKIECBCAAA.joshodom@uswest.net
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.3.96.991021082136.29811B&#45;100000@shell.icon.co.za

This is a known bug with Services (I think I might have even added it to
the Bugs list - *proud look*)

This will hopefully, and most probably, be fixed inthe next release of
Services.

Regards, Andrew

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Josh Odom wrote:

> Hey Guys,
> 
> I am not so sure about how the "Guest Nick System" Works. We are using
> Services-4.3.3 (with a few of my personal modifications) It changed our
> nicks at the exact same time and to the exact same nick...
> 
> [11:05]*** Shadow is now known as Guest38040
> [11:05]*** Ecliptic is now known as Guest38040
> 
> Don't know if this has happened to anyone else but it could be a problem for
> larger networks...
> 
> 
> Josh Odom
> joshodom@uswest.net
> 
> 
> 
> PS: Anyone who still has the SENDPASS code, can you please send it to me?
> THX
> 
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From ircservices at pop3.uol.com.br  Thu Oct 21 07:43:18 1999
From: ircservices at pop3.uol.com.br (Marcus Maciel (ScOrP|On))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] local_check_header
Message-ID: 3.0.5.32.19991021124318.0079e510@pop3.uol.com.br

this sendpass code by fighter :)
From climber at rionet.com.br  Thu Oct 21 14:52:06 1999
From: climber at rionet.com.br (root of all evil)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] local_check_header
References: <3.0.5.32.19991021124318.0079e510@pop3.uol.com.br>
Message-ID: 99102117532800.00634@rcmoraes.intranet

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, you wrote:
>>this sendpass code by fighter :)
Please add this line on sendpass code for security issues

} else if (strchr(ni->email, ';')) {
        notice(s_NickServ, u->nick, "Email invalido, o SENDPASS nao pode ser envviado");
        return ;

----------------------------------------
Content-Type: text/plain; name="unnamed"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Description: 
----------------------------------------

----------------------------------------
Content-Type: text/plain; name="unnamed"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Description: 
----------------------------------------
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From climber at rionet.com.br  Thu Oct 21 14:56:56 1999
From: climber at rionet.com.br (root of all evil)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] lNick colision
References: <3.0.5.32.19991021124318.0079e510@pop3.uol.com.br>
Message-ID: 99102118042301.00634@rcmoraes.intranet

i use this on my services:
this code i got from servicesbr, writen by wyrn
but it works very well
i have used it on a network whith 200 users whitout problems

static int nseed;


static void collide(NickInfo *ni, int from_timeout)
{
    User *u;

    u = finduser(ni->nick);

    if (!from_timeout)  
        del_ns_timeout(ni, TO_COLLIDE);

#ifdef IRC_DAL4_4_15
    if (NSForceNickChange) {
        char guestnick[NICKMAX];
        int beh;
       
        beh=time(NULL); 
        sprintf(guestnick, "%s%d%d", NSGuestNickPrefix, nseed, beh); 
        if (nseed>=9999) nseed=0;
        nseed++;
        while (finduser(guestnick) != NULL){        
        guestnick[strlen(guestnick)-1]=0;
        if(strlen(guestnick)<7) sprintf(guestnick, "%s%d%d", NSGuestNickPrefix, nseed, beh);
    }                   
        notice_lang(s_NickServ, u, FORCENICKCHANGE_NOW, guestnick);

        send_cmd(s_NickServ, "SVSNICK %s %s :%lu", ni->nick, guestnick, time(NULL));
        send_cmd(NULL,"SQLINE %s :NickServ enforcement", ni->nick);
        ni->status |= NS_KILL_HELD;
        ni->status |= NS_GUESTED;
        add_ns_timeout(ni, TO_RELEASE, NSReleaseTimeout);  
    } else {
#endif
        notice_lang(s_NickServ, u, DISCONNECT_NOW);
        kill_user(s_NickServ, ni->nick, "Nick kill enforced");
        send_cmd(NULL, "NICK %s %ld 1 %s %s %s :%s Enforcement", ni->nick, time(NULL), NSEnforcerUser, NSEnforcerHost, ServerName, s_NickServ);  
        ni->status |= NS_KILL_HELD; 
        add_ns_timeout(ni, TO_RELEASE, NSReleaseTimeout);

#ifdef IRC_DAL4_4_15
 }
#else
}
#endif 




Please note This code use SQline, so you must have to add the code to sqlines
on release and else...

FiGhTER
ircadmin
irc.rionet.com.br
BrasIRC.com.br Network
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From martini at intergate.com.br  Thu Oct 21 18:36:38 1999
From: martini at intergate.com.br (Carlos Mendes Martini)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Re: Nick colision
References: <3.0.5.32.19991021124318.0079e510@pop3.uol.com.br> <99102118042301.00634@rcmoraes.intranet>
Message-ID: 380FBFA4.76504222@intergate.com.br

root of all evil wrote:
> 
> i use this on my services:
> this code i got from servicesbr, writen by wyrn
> but it works very well
> i have used it on a network whith 200 users whitout problems



        Hummm... I had some troubles when doing this... so, I preferred to
modify the original code, as the following:
  
        Original code:
  
/****************************************************************/
#ifdef IRC_DAL4_4_15
 if (NSForceNickChange) {
  struct timeval tv;
  char guestnick[NICKMAX];

  gettimeofday(&tv, NULL);
  snprintf(guestnick, sizeof(guestnick), "%s%ld%ld", NSGuestNickPrefix,
                        tv.tv_usec / 10000, tv.tv_sec % (60*60*24));

  notice_lang(s_NickServ, u, FORCENICKCHANGE_NOW, guestnick);
/****************************************************************/


        New code:

/****************************************************************/
#ifdef IRC_DAL4_4_15
    if (NSForceNickChange) {
        char guestnick[NICKMAX];

    int beh;
    beh=time(NULL);
    sprintf(guestnick, "%s%d%d", NSGuestNickPrefix, nseed, beh);
    if (nseed>=9999) nseed=0;
    nseed++;

    notice_lang(s_NickServ, u, FORCENICKCHANGE_NOW, guestnick);
/****************************************************************/


        And place the line above at the top of the file, with the others
"static int":

        static int nseed;



        I apologize for my bad english.


        Best regards,
-- 

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From reka at reka.org  Fri Oct 22 07:00:12 1999
From: reka at reka.org (Martin Holm)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Re: Nick colision
In-Reply-To: <380FBFA4.76504222@intergate.com.br>
References: <3.0.5.32.19991021124318.0079e510@pop3.uol.com.br><99102118042301.00634@rcmoraes.intranet>
Message-ID: 4.1.19991022155928.013526b0@reka.org


No need to apologize for your English, we all understood what you meant.


At 23:36 21.10.99 -0200, Carlos Mendes Martini wrote:

>       I apologize for my bad english.


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From lebleu at prefer.net  Fri Oct 22 09:48:23 1999
From: lebleu at prefer.net (Kevin)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Re: Nick colision
In-Reply-To: <4.1.19991022155928.013526b0@reka.org>
References: 4.1.19991022155928.013526b0@reka.org
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.00.9910221146230.9182&#45;100000@hades.bleu.paganpaths.org


On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Martin Holm wrote:

> No need to apologize for your English, we all understood what you meant.
> 
> At 23:36 21.10.99 -0200, Carlos Mendes Martini wrote:
> 
> >     I apologize for my bad english.

I agree, no need to apologize for your English.  But, couldn't you have
included a diff output instead of just showing the old and new code?  I
know I find that the easiest way to see what actually changed, short of
ediff in emacs. ;)

--Kevin

P.S. I personally find diff -u is easiest to read, but I don't know what
others find easiest.

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From rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br  Tue Oct 26 10:36:58 1999
From: rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br (Rafael Ritter)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] cpu consumption
Message-ID: 3.0.3.32.19991026153658.0081d760@kapa.procergs.com.br

Hello,

anyone knows why sometimes services process sudently starts to use 99% of
server CPU and was disconected from server?
Is this problem known? This problem already happened to someone here?

Whaiting answers...

Rafael Ritter
rafael@kapa.procergs.com.br

ps. sorry my english.

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From scrm at scandal.org  Tue Oct 26 12:01:22 1999
From: scrm at scandal.org (Mehran Khalili)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] cpu consumption
In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19991026153658.0081d760@kapa.procergs.com.br>
References: 3.0.3.32.19991026153658.0081d760@kapa.procergs.com.br
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.05.9910262000290.30547&#45;100000@meteora.areti.com


> Hello,
> 
> anyone knows why sometimes services process sudently starts to use 99% of
> server CPU and was disconected from server?
> Is this problem known? This problem already happened to someone here?
> 
> Whaiting answers...

It's strange that you should say that, because it just happened to me too.

Any ideas anyone?

Mehran


              |~~~~~~~ screamager . mehran khalili ~~~~~~~|
              | http://www.scandal.org . scrm@scandal.org |
               ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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From scotts at flamebait.org  Tue Oct 26 15:11:27 1999
From: scotts at flamebait.org (Scott Seufert)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] cpu consumption
References: <3.0.3.32.19991026153658.0081d760@kapa.procergs.com.br>
Message-ID: 3816270F.2279D8D9@flamebait.org

Which version of services?

Which IRC daemon?

Rafael Ritter wrote:

> Hello,
>
> anyone knows why sometimes services process sudently starts to use 99% of
> server CPU and was disconected from server?
> Is this problem known? This problem already happened to someone here?
>
> Whaiting answers...
>
> Rafael Ritter
> rafael@kapa.procergs.com.br
>
> ps. sorry my english.
>
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From zshack at alliancelink.com  Tue Oct 26 13:22:26 1999
From: zshack at alliancelink.com (zshack)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] cpu consumption
References: <3.0.3.32.19991026153658.0081d760@kapa.procergs.com.br> <3816270F.2279D8D9@flamebait.org>
Message-ID: 001201bf1fef$d22d4450$87f05d18@ZSHACK

I had the same problem and you have to be all runing the same version of
IRCD . If its a different version it will cause high cpu usage, i hade the
same problem and everyone being on the same exact version fixed it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Seufert" <scotts@flamebait.org>
To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] cpu consumption


> Which version of services?
>
> Which IRC daemon?
>
> Rafael Ritter wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > anyone knows why sometimes services process sudently starts to use 99%
of
> > server CPU and was disconected from server?
> > Is this problem known? This problem already happened to someone here?
> >
> > Whaiting answers...
> >
> > Rafael Ritter
> > rafael@kapa.procergs.com.br
> >
> > ps. sorry my english.
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------
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>
> kat
>
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From nick at blkbox.com  Tue Oct 26 15:37:20 1999
From: nick at blkbox.com (Nick Gawronski)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] writing new commands for services
In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19991026153658.0081d760@kapa.procergs.com.br>
References: 3.0.3.32.19991026153658.0081d760@kapa.procergs.com.br
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.3.95.991026173508.21025A&#45;100000@blkbox.com

Hi, How could I write a new command like what files would I need to
change?  I have ircservices-4.3.3 bye 
Nick Gawronski the chihuahua eater http://www.blkbox.com/~nick

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From nick at blkbox.com  Tue Oct 26 17:40:56 1999
From: nick at blkbox.com (Nick Gawronski)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] services and server problem
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.3.95.991026193518.28015A&#45;100000@blkbox.com

      Hi, I got this error when running services 4.3.3 compiled for dalnet
4.6.7 option 22 on configure script 

[Oct 26 18:40:37.794798 1999] Services 4.3.3 (compiled for ircd.dal 4.4.15+) starting up (options: debug)
[Oct 26 18:40:45.875216 1999] debug: Received: :localhost NOTICE AUTH :*** Looking up your hostname...
[Oct 26 18:40:45.885206 1999] debug: Received: :localhost NOTICE AUTH :*** Found your hostname (cached)
[Oct 26 18:40:45.892124 1999] debug: Received: :localhost NOTICE AUTH :*** Checking ident...
[Oct 26 18:40:45.969527 1999] debug: Received: :localhost NOTICE AUTH :*** Received ident response
[Oct 26 18:40:45.975784 1999] Read error from server: No such file or directory
[Oct 26 18:40:45.979764 1999] debug: Sent: :services.localhost SQUIT services.localhost :Read error from server: No such file or directory

I am running dalnet dreamforge 4.6.7 on a redhat 6.0.  bye Nick Gawronski
the chihuahua eater http://www.blkbox.com/~nick

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From bombbomb at wwdg.com  Tue Oct 26 22:05:18 1999
From: bombbomb at wwdg.com (¬µ¼u¥J)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] cpu consumption
In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19991026153658.0081d760@kapa.procergs.com.br>
References: 3.0.3.32.19991026153658.0081d760@kapa.procergs.com.br
Message-ID: 4.1.19991027130345.009268b0@mail.wwdg.com

At 03:36 PM 1999/10/26 -0200, you wrote: 

>Hello,
>
>anyone knows why sometimes services process sudently starts to use 99% of
>server CPU and was disconected from server?
>Is this problem known? This problem already happened to someone here?
>
>Whaiting answers...

Hello,
        I also have the same problems. The CPU usage becomes very high when the
services
disconnect from the server and run it again...

Any idea ?
                                                        bomb
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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Wed Oct 27 02:37:38 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] cpu consumption
In-Reply-To: <4.1.19991027130345.009268b0@mail.wwdg.com>
References: 4.1.19991027130345.009268b0@mail.wwdg.com
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.3.96.991027095200.2242D&#45;100000@shell.icon.co.za

As Sctot asked, what version of IRC Services and ircd are you running?
Please always include this information.

Although I've not been able to reproduce these problems, they seem to be
happening when running with modified ircds or when U:lines have not been
setup correctly. 

Andrew

On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, [iso-8859-1] ¬µ¼u¥J wrote:

> At 03:36 PM 1999/10/26 -0200, you wrote: 
> 
> >Hello,
> >
> >anyone knows why sometimes services process sudently starts to use 99% of
> >server CPU and was disconected from server?
> >Is this problem known? This problem already happened to someone here?
> >
> >Whaiting answers...
> 
> Hello,
>       I also have the same problems. The CPU usage becomes very high when the
> services
> disconnect from the server and run it again...
> 
> Any idea ?
>                                                       bomb
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From dragon at wastelands.net  Wed Oct 27 03:48:33 1999
From: dragon at wastelands.net (Gaven Cohen)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] cpu consumption
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.96.991027095200.2242D-100000@shell.icon.co.za>
References: Pine.GSO.3.96.991027095200.2242D&#45;100000@shell.icon.co.za
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.10.9910271246440.1123&#45;100000@dragon.wastelands.net


On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, Andrew Kempe wrote:

> Although I've not been able to reproduce these problems, they seem to be
> happening when running with modified ircds or when U:lines have not been
> setup correctly. 

Well, somewhere along the line, services is going into an infinite loop...
hence why it wont respond to the server's ping (and thus get disconnected)
and why its using so much CPU.

If we can work out how to reproduce it, the problem will be alot easier to
find (and fix).

If anyone wants to run services under gdb and atleast find out in which
prodecure the loop is in...  would help lots :)

- Gaven

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From bombbomb at wwdg.com  Thu Oct 28 00:48:59 1999
From: bombbomb at wwdg.com (¬µ¼u¥J)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] cpu consumption
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.96.991027095200.2242D-100000@shell.icon.co.za>
References: <4.1.19991027130345.009268b0@mail.wwdg.com>
Message-ID: 4.1.19991028154635.00921e20@mail.wwdg.com

At 11:37 AM 1999/10/27 +0200, you wrote: 

>As Sctot asked, what version of IRC Services and ircd are you running?
>Please always include this information.
>
>Although I've not been able to reproduce these problems, they seem to be
>happening when running with modified ircds or when U:lines have not been
>setup correctly. 

Hello,
        I am using the Unreal ircd (modified version of dalnet ?) with services
4.3.3 The high cpu
comsumption happen when the services disconnect and connect again. But if I
kill the ircd and run it again, then run the services. The high CPU
comsimption did not happen... 

Any ideas ?

                                                bomb

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From rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br  Thu Oct 28 04:17:24 1999
From: rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br (Rafael Ritter)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] cpu consumption
In-Reply-To: <3816270F.2279D8D9@flamebait.org>
References: <3.0.3.32.19991026153658.0081d760@kapa.procergs.com.br>
Message-ID: 3.0.3.32.19991028091724.007e3100@kapa.procergs.com.br

Well,

I use the last version of EliteIRCD and the last version of Services
(4.3.3), but this problem has occurred on many other configurations.

Rafael Ritter
Equipe VIA RS

At 15:11 26/10/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Which version of services?
>
>Which IRC daemon?
>
>Rafael Ritter wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> anyone knows why sometimes services process sudently starts to use 99% of
>> server CPU and was disconected from server?
>> Is this problem known? This problem already happened to someone here?
>>
>> Whaiting answers...
>>
>> Rafael Ritter
>> rafael@kapa.procergs.com.br
>>
>> ps. sorry my english.
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
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>
>kat
>
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From rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br  Thu Oct 28 04:20:52 1999
From: rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br (Rafael Ritter)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] cpu consumption
In-Reply-To: <001201bf1fef$d22d4450$87f05d18@ZSHACK>
References: <3.0.3.32.19991026153658.0081d760@kapa.procergs.com.br><3816270F.2279D8D9@flamebait.org>
Message-ID: 3.0.3.32.19991028092052.00afd6a0@kapa.procergs.com.br

At the present moment, I have only one server running one IRCd, but because
of the number of users that is more than 1000, I will put two IRCd´s in
same machine running in network. That´s the only way I found for more than
1000 users to connect in my server.

Rafael Ritter
Equipe VIA RS

At 16:22 26/10/99 -0400, you wrote:
>I had the same problem and you have to be all runing the same version of
>IRCD . If its a different version it will cause high cpu usage, i hade the
>same problem and everyone being on the same exact version fixed it.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Scott Seufert" <scotts@flamebait.org>
>To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 6:11 PM
>Subject: Re: [IRCServices] cpu consumption
>
>
>> Which version of services?
>>
>> Which IRC daemon?
>>
>> Rafael Ritter wrote:
>>
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > anyone knows why sometimes services process sudently starts to use 99%
>of
>> > server CPU and was disconected from server?
>> > Is this problem known? This problem already happened to someone here?
>> >
>> > Whaiting answers...
>> >
>> > Rafael Ritter
>> > rafael@kapa.procergs.com.br
>> >
>> > ps. sorry my english.
>> >
>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------
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>>
>> kat
>>
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From rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br  Thu Oct 28 04:34:18 1999
From: rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br (Rafael Ritter)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] cpu consumption
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.96.991027095200.2242D-100000@shell.icon.co.za>
References: <4.1.19991027130345.009268b0@mail.wwdg.com>
Message-ID: 3.0.3.32.19991028093418.00afcc00@kapa.procergs.com.br

Ok, let´s go.

These are my ircd.conf lines for services

############ Uline for Services ############
U:services.via-rs.com.br:pass:*
C:200.248.240.55:pass:services.via-rs.com.br:6667:32
N:200.248.240.55:pass:services.via-rs.com.br::32
C:irc2.via-rs.com.br:pass:services.via-rs.com.br:6667:32
N:irc2.via-rs.com.br:pass:services.via-rs.com.br::32
############################################

I´m running EliteIRCd2.0Preview, Services 4.3.3 on a Linux 2.2.12

the same problem I had running Magick (sux) in a dalnet ircd (dont remember
the version) and another configurations (but with theses U,C,N lines).

One interesting detail: With FreeBSD, services don´t stay alive for more
than 5 minuts. Now, with Linux, they are more stable and this problem occur
just some times.

Well, I think this is all. Any help is welcome.


Rafael Ritter
VIA RS Team


(some day I will learn english :)






At 11:37 27/10/99 +0200, you wrote:
>As Sctot asked, what version of IRC Services and ircd are you running?
>Please always include this information.
>
>Although I've not been able to reproduce these problems, they seem to be
>happening when running with modified ircds or when U:lines have not been
>setup correctly. 
>
>Andrew
>
>On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, [iso-8859-1] ¬µ¼u¥J wrote:
>
>> At 03:36 PM 1999/10/26 -0200, you wrote: 
>> 
>> >Hello,
>> >
>> >anyone knows why sometimes services process sudently starts to use 99% of
>> >server CPU and was disconected from server?
>> >Is this problem known? This problem already happened to someone here?
>> >
>> >Whaiting answers...
>> 
>> Hello,
>>      I also have the same problems. The CPU usage becomes very high when the
>> services
>> disconnect from the server and run it again...
>> 
>> Any idea ?
>>                                                      bomb
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From jpinto9 at visteon.com  Thu Oct 28 05:39:03 1999
From: jpinto9 at visteon.com (Pinto, Joao Luis (J.))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] cpu consumption
Message-ID: 199910281239.IAA29523@mailfw3.ford.com

You should be aware that Andy Church services do not support EliteIRCD
channel owner mode (+q), this will drive to MODE bouncing problems... please
use another series or another ircd... or make the necessary changes on
services. Probably the bouncing modes are the reason for that cpu
consumption.

João Luís Marques Pinto
PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
http://www.PTlink.net  




-----Original Message-----
From: Rafael Ritter [<A  HREF="mailto:rafael@kapa.procergs.com.br">mailto:rafael@kapa.procergs.com.br</A>]
Sent: quinta-feira, 28 de outubro de 1999 12:34
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] cpu consumption


Ok, let´s go.

These are my ircd.conf lines for services

############ Uline for Services ############
U:services.via-rs.com.br:pass:*
C:200.248.240.55:pass:services.via-rs.com.br:6667:32
N:200.248.240.55:pass:services.via-rs.com.br::32
C:irc2.via-rs.com.br:pass:services.via-rs.com.br:6667:32
N:irc2.via-rs.com.br:pass:services.via-rs.com.br::32
############################################

I´m running EliteIRCd2.0Preview, Services 4.3.3 on a Linux 2.2.12

the same problem I had running Magick (sux) in a dalnet ircd (dont remember
the version) and another configurations (but with theses U,C,N lines).

One interesting detail: With FreeBSD, services don´t stay alive for more
than 5 minuts. Now, with Linux, they are more stable and this problem occur
just some times.

Well, I think this is all. Any help is welcome.


Rafael Ritter
VIA RS Team


(some day I will learn english :)






At 11:37 27/10/99 +0200, you wrote:
>As Sctot asked, what version of IRC Services and ircd are you running?
>Please always include this information.
>
>Although I've not been able to reproduce these problems, they seem to be
>happening when running with modified ircds or when U:lines have not been
>setup correctly. 
>
>Andrew
>
>On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, [iso-8859-1] ¬µ¼u¥J wrote:
>
>> At 03:36 PM 1999/10/26 -0200, you wrote: 
>> 
>> >Hello,
>> >
>> >anyone knows why sometimes services process sudently starts to use 99%
of
>> >server CPU and was disconected from server?
>> >Is this problem known? This problem already happened to someone here?
>> >
>> >Whaiting answers...
>> 
>> Hello,
>>      I also have the same problems. The CPU usage becomes very high when
the
>> services
>> disconnect from the server and run it again...
>> 
>> Any idea ?
>>                                                      bomb
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From simons at ns1.foruto.com  Thu Oct 28 05:42:13 1999
From: simons at ns1.foruto.com (simons@ns1.foruto.com)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Suggestion on /CS INFO
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.10.9910282032420.17586&#45;100000@ns1.foruto.com

Hello,

Currently, /CS INFO will display the 'Last Topic' of a channel even the
channel is +s
And I suggest that when channel mlock included +s , then hide the 'Last
Topic' too. I think people create the secret channel, they don't want
their topics spy by someone else (i.e. me =P)


Best rgds,
Simons




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From datcrack at milliyet.com.tr  Thu Oct 28 06:12:18 1999
From: datcrack at milliyet.com.tr (Datcrack)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] cpu consumption
In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19991028092052.00afd6a0@kapa.procergs.com.br>
References: 3.0.3.32.19991028092052.00afd6a0@kapa.procergs.com.br
Message-ID: NDBBIOLGOLDLBOFPJKIKAEFPCBAA.datcrack@milliyet.com.tr

I've had the same problem being stuck to 1000 users... It's a general
problem in Linux Kernel which limits connections. I plan on solving the
problem moving the ircd to Sun server...

Datcrack

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
[mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of Rafael Ritter
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 2:21 PM
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] cpu consumption


At the present moment, I have only one server running one IRCd, but because
of the number of users that is more than 1000, I will put two IRCd´s in
same machine running in network. That´s the only way I found for more than
1000 users to connect in my server.

Rafael Ritter
Equipe VIA RS

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From rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br  Thu Oct 28 06:52:59 1999
From: rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br (Rafael Ritter)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] cpu consumption
In-Reply-To: <199910281239.IAA29523@mailfw3.ford.com>
References: 199910281239.IAA29523@mailfw3.ford.com
Message-ID: 3.0.3.32.19991028115259.0086d2d0@kapa.procergs.com.br

hmmmm...

and what about Unreal IRCd?

Rafael Ritter
Equipe VIA RS

At 08:39 28/10/99 -0400, you wrote:
>You should be aware that Andy Church services do not support EliteIRCD
>channel owner mode (+q), this will drive to MODE bouncing problems... please
>use another series or another ircd... or make the necessary changes on
>services. Probably the bouncing modes are the reason for that cpu
>consumption.
>
>João Luís Marques Pinto
>PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
>http://www.PTlink.net  
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rafael Ritter [<A  HREF="mailto:rafael@kapa.procergs.com.br">mailto:rafael@kapa.procergs.com.br</A>]
>Sent: quinta-feira, 28 de outubro de 1999 12:34
>To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
>Subject: Re: [IRCServices] cpu consumption
>
>
>Ok, let´s go.
>
>These are my ircd.conf lines for services
>
>############ Uline for Services ############
>U:services.via-rs.com.br:pass:*
>C:200.248.240.55:pass:services.via-rs.com.br:6667:32
>N:200.248.240.55:pass:services.via-rs.com.br::32
>C:irc2.via-rs.com.br:pass:services.via-rs.com.br:6667:32
>N:irc2.via-rs.com.br:pass:services.via-rs.com.br::32
>############################################
>
>I´m running EliteIRCd2.0Preview, Services 4.3.3 on a Linux 2.2.12
>
>the same problem I had running Magick (sux) in a dalnet ircd (dont remember
>the version) and another configurations (but with theses U,C,N lines).
>
>One interesting detail: With FreeBSD, services don´t stay alive for more
>than 5 minuts. Now, with Linux, they are more stable and this problem occur
>just some times.
>
>Well, I think this is all. Any help is welcome.
>
>
>Rafael Ritter
>VIA RS Team
>
>
>(some day I will learn english :)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>At 11:37 27/10/99 +0200, you wrote:
>>As Sctot asked, what version of IRC Services and ircd are you running?
>>Please always include this information.
>>
>>Although I've not been able to reproduce these problems, they seem to be
>>happening when running with modified ircds or when U:lines have not been
>>setup correctly. 
>>
>>Andrew
>>
>>On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, [iso-8859-1] ¬µ¼u¥J wrote:
>>
>>> At 03:36 PM 1999/10/26 -0200, you wrote: 
>>> 
>>> >Hello,
>>> >
>>> >anyone knows why sometimes services process sudently starts to use 99%
>of
>>> >server CPU and was disconected from server?
>>> >Is this problem known? This problem already happened to someone here?
>>> >
>>> >Whaiting answers...
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>>     I also have the same problems. The CPU usage becomes very high when
>the
>>> services
>>> disconnect from the server and run it again...
>>> 
>>> Any idea ?
>>>                                                     bomb
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>>> 
>>
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From lebleu at prefer.net  Thu Oct 28 08:06:50 1999
From: lebleu at prefer.net (Kevin)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:52 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] cpu consumption
In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19991028092052.00afd6a0@kapa.procergs.com.br>
References: 3.0.3.32.19991028092052.00afd6a0@kapa.procergs.com.br
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.00.9910281005170.3774&#45;100000@hades.bleu.paganpaths.org


On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Rafael Ritter wrote:

> At the present moment, I have only one server running one IRCd, but because
> of the number of users that is more than 1000, I will put two IRCd´s in
> same machine running in network. That´s the only way I found for more than
> 1000 users to connect in my server.

Are you running linux? Which kernel?  I seem to remember reading something
recently about changes to linux so the connection limit is no longer hard
coded into the kernel, it is run time configurable.  The other option is
to switch to OpenBSD, Solaris, etc. which don't have such limit, or to
hack or find a patch for the kernel such that you don't have that limit.

--Kevin

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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Thu Oct 28 08:31:30 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] cpu consumption
In-Reply-To: <199910281239.IAA29523@mailfw3.ford.com>
References: 199910281239.IAA29523@mailfw3.ford.com
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.3.96.991028172417.18629A&#45;100000@shell.icon.co.za

I agree with this,

I was going to say that most of the problems I've heard of with regards to
high cpu usage have been when a modified version of Dreamforge is being
used. I guess this is starting to prove itself. Is anyone having this
problem with an ircd that is _totally_ supported by services?

It is important to note that although a change to the ircd, such as a new
mode, seems small an insignificant, it can have a profound effect on
services.

I also doubt that there will be support for all these modified versions.
It is hard enough trying to make services work with the numerous
"base/major" ircds that are out there.

Andrew

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Pinto, Joao Luis (J.) wrote:

> You should be aware that Andy Church services do not support EliteIRCD
> channel owner mode (+q), this will drive to MODE bouncing problems... please
> use another series or another ircd... or make the necessary changes on
> services. Probably the bouncing modes are the reason for that cpu
> consumption.
> 
> João Luís Marques Pinto
> PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
> http://www.PTlink.net  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rafael Ritter [<A  HREF="mailto:rafael@kapa.procergs.com.br">mailto:rafael@kapa.procergs.com.br</A>]
> Sent: quinta-feira, 28 de outubro de 1999 12:34
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] cpu consumption
> 
> 
> Ok, let´s go.
> 
> These are my ircd.conf lines for services
> 
> ############ Uline for Services ############
> U:services.via-rs.com.br:pass:*
> C:200.248.240.55:pass:services.via-rs.com.br:6667:32
> N:200.248.240.55:pass:services.via-rs.com.br::32
> C:irc2.via-rs.com.br:pass:services.via-rs.com.br:6667:32
> N:irc2.via-rs.com.br:pass:services.via-rs.com.br::32
> ############################################
> 
> I´m running EliteIRCd2.0Preview, Services 4.3.3 on a Linux 2.2.12
> 
> the same problem I had running Magick (sux) in a dalnet ircd (dont remember
> the version) and another configurations (but with theses U,C,N lines).
> 
> One interesting detail: With FreeBSD, services don´t stay alive for more
> than 5 minuts. Now, with Linux, they are more stable and this problem occur
> just some times.
> 
> Well, I think this is all. Any help is welcome.
> 
> 
> Rafael Ritter
> VIA RS Team
> 
> 
> (some day I will learn english :)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 11:37 27/10/99 +0200, you wrote:
> >As Sctot asked, what version of IRC Services and ircd are you running?
> >Please always include this information.
> >
> >Although I've not been able to reproduce these problems, they seem to be
> >happening when running with modified ircds or when U:lines have not been
> >setup correctly. 
> >
> >Andrew
> >
> >On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, [iso-8859-1] ¬µ¼u¥J wrote:
> >
> >> At 03:36 PM 1999/10/26 -0200, you wrote: 
> >> 
> >> >Hello,
> >> >
> >> >anyone knows why sometimes services process sudently starts to use 99%
> of
> >> >server CPU and was disconected from server?
> >> >Is this problem known? This problem already happened to someone here?
> >> >
> >> >Whaiting answers...
> >> 
> >> Hello,
> >>    I also have the same problems. The CPU usage becomes very high when
> the
> >> services
> >> disconnect from the server and run it again...
> >> 
> >> Any idea ?
> >>                                                    bomb
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> >> 
> >
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> >
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From rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br  Thu Oct 28 09:00:42 1999
From: rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br (Rafael Ritter)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] cpu consumption
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.00.9910281005170.3774-100000@hades.bleu.paganpaths.org>
References: <3.0.3.32.19991028092052.00afd6a0@kapa.procergs.com.br>
Message-ID: 3.0.3.32.19991028140042.007e2790@kapa.procergs.com.br

My kernel version is 2.2.12
The new server will be 2.3.22

Rafael Ritter
VIA RS Team

At 10:06 28/10/99 -0500, you wrote:
>
>On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Rafael Ritter wrote:
>
>> At the present moment, I have only one server running one IRCd, but because
>> of the number of users that is more than 1000, I will put two IRCd´s in
>> same machine running in network. That´s the only way I found for more than
>> 1000 users to connect in my server.
>
>Are you running linux? Which kernel?  I seem to remember reading something
>recently about changes to linux so the connection limit is no longer hard
>coded into the kernel, it is run time configurable.  The other option is
>to switch to OpenBSD, Solaris, etc. which don't have such limit, or to
>hack or find a patch for the kernel such that you don't have that limit.
>
>--Kevin
>
>-- 
>PaganPaths IRC Network - irc.paganpaths.org - http://www.paganpaths.org/
>PPCR Pagan Internet Radio - <A  HREF="http://www.paganpaths.org/radio/">http://www.paganpaths.org/radio/</A>
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>the Blue. 
>Copyright 1999 Kevin the Blue <LeBleu@prefer.net>
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From lebleu at prefer.net  Thu Oct 28 09:41:57 1999
From: lebleu at prefer.net (Kevin)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] linux connection limit was cpu consumption
In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19991028140042.007e2790@kapa.procergs.com.br>
References: 3.0.3.32.19991028140042.007e2790@kapa.procergs.com.br
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On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Rafael Ritter wrote:

> My kernel version is 2.2.12
> The new server will be 2.3.22

Hmm... I checked the release notes at www.linux.org.uk, and it was the
2.2.12 kernel that had the update:

File Handles 
     The kernel now supports large numbers of file handles per process.
     The default remains unchanged but can be raised by processes. 

You might check if the compile options for linux are causing it to set the
lower limit... Also make sure the #define MAXCONNECTIONS is greater than
1024... I *think* it tries to do a ulimit on file desc. to that number,
cuz on older versions of linux it generated a runtime error if it was too
high, but you might wanna double check that, in case something different
needs to be done to raise the limit.

--Kevin, who wonders why anyone would run a server on a 2.3.x (development
series) kernel... why not wait for 2.4.1?

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From stsimb at forthnet.gr  Thu Oct 28 12:19:04 1999
From: stsimb at forthnet.gr (Sotiris Tsimbonis)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] cpu consumption
In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19991028140042.007e2790@kapa.procergs.com.br>
References: 3.0.3.32.19991028140042.007e2790@kapa.procergs.com.br
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.20.9910282211180.27109&#45;100000@nana.forthnet.gr

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Rafael Ritter wrote:
> My kernel version is 2.2.12
> The new server will be 2.3.22

Have a look at http://squid.nlanr.net/Doc/FAQ/FAQ-11.html#ss11.4
There's no need to re-compile your 2.2.x kernel..

Regards,
Sotiris.

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From joshodom at uswest.net  Thu Oct 28 16:02:06 1999
From: joshodom at uswest.net (Josh Odom)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] cpu consumption
In-Reply-To: <4.1.19991028154635.00921e20@mail.wwdg.com>
References: 4.1.19991028154635.00921e20@mail.wwdg.com
Message-ID: LNBBIDPHKBGLGHDPOHNAOEAFCAAA.joshodom@uswest.net

Thats a problem with Unreal...
I have used the Unreal Tabby version and it did the same thing. I didn't go
out and investigate it, I just got a new IRCD.
If you have to use the "Host Aliasing" features *EliteIRCD* is the way to
go... Older versions of Elite were pretty bad but the new one have *MOST* of
the bugs out.


Josh Odom
NeoStation IRC Network
IRCD/Services Coder

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
[mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of ¬µ¼u¥J
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 12:49 AM
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] cpu consumption


At 11:37 AM 1999/10/27 +0200, you wrote:

>As Sctot asked, what version of IRC Services and ircd are you running?
>Please always include this information.
>
>Although I've not been able to reproduce these problems, they seem to be
>happening when running with modified ircds or when U:lines have not been
>setup correctly.

Hello,
        I am using the Unreal ircd (modified version of dalnet ?) with services
4.3.3 The high cpu
comsumption happen when the services disconnect and connect again. But if I
kill the ircd and run it again, then run the services. The high CPU
comsimption did not happen...

Any ideas ?

                                                bomb

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From rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br  Thu Oct 28 17:49:12 1999
From: rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br (Rafael Ritter)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] All connections in use
In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19991028115259.0086d2d0@kapa.procergs.com.br>
References: <199910281239.IAA29523@mailfw3.ford.com>
Message-ID: 3.0.3.32.19991028224912.009693d0@kapa.procergs.com.br

Friends,

I know this question is out of topic, but I really need to solve this.
If there is no interest in talk about that, I only ask you for any ircd
mailing list.

I really need to grant access for more than 1000 users. I was reading the
last e-mails but they'r not specific (or I didn't understood them).
My solution is run 2 ircds in same machine. But until now I didn´t have
success. (there is some other solution?)

My configuration:
IP: 200.248.240.59
Server name: psi.procergs.com.br
Server alias: irc.via-rs.com.br
# Client Y:lines
Y:1:90:0:1024:100000
# Server Y:lines
Y:50:300:600:1:1000000

I think the problem is with my C/N lines.

C:200.248.240.59:pass:200.248.240.59:7029:50
N:200.248.240.59:pass:200.248.240.59::50
C:irc.via-rs.com.br:pass:irc.via-rs.com.br:7029:50
N:irc.via-rs.com.br:pass:irc.via-rs.com.br::50

This is the first time I try to link two servers. You may smile if there
are some primary mistakes :-)

Rafael Ritter
Equipe VIA RS

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From chriswh at cyberhighway.net  Fri Oct 29 13:04:40 1999
From: chriswh at cyberhighway.net (Chris)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] cpu consumption
Message-ID: 199910292315.BAA19118@Ender.gp.school.za

Ok, Not to say anything bad about Elite because I personally love it's
features. But as a note, it now costs $5.00 U.S. Which isn't much at all.
Just noting this as most IRCDs are free.

Just thought you should know.

-psych0path

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> From: Josh Odom <joshodom@uswest.net>
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: RE: [IRCServices] cpu consumption
> Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 7:02 PM
> 
> Thats a problem with Unreal...
> I have used the Unreal Tabby version and it did the same thing. I didn't
go
> out and investigate it, I just got a new IRCD.
> If you have to use the "Host Aliasing" features *EliteIRCD* is the way to
> go... Older versions of Elite were pretty bad but the new one have *MOST*
of
> the bugs out.
> 
> 
> Josh Odom
> NeoStation IRC Network
> IRCD/Services Coder
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of ¬µ¼u¥J
> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 12:49 AM
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] cpu consumption
> 
> 
> At 11:37 AM 1999/10/27 +0200, you wrote:
> 
> >As Sctot asked, what version of IRC Services and ircd are you running?
> >Please always include this information.
> >
> >Although I've not been able to reproduce these problems, they seem to be
> >happening when running with modified ircds or when U:lines have not been
> >setup correctly.
> 
> Hello,
>       I am using the Unreal ircd (modified version of dalnet ?) with services
> 4.3.3 The high cpu
> comsumption happen when the services disconnect and connect again. But if
I
> kill the ircd and run it again, then run the services. The high CPU
> comsimption did not happen...
> 
> Any ideas ?
> 
>                                               bomb
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From egg at writeme.com  Fri Oct 29 22:23:21 1999
From: egg at writeme.com (egg@writeme.com)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] cpu consumption
In-Reply-To: <199910292315.BAA19118@Ender.gp.school.za>
References: 199910292315.BAA19118@Ender.gp.school.za
Message-ID: 4.1.19991030072012.00aab300@error


A quick note here.  This guy is selling GNU software...... Or in other
words he's doing something he isn't allowed to do....

Read http://www.freshmeat.net/appindex/1999/10/17/940203481.html
A small extract:
>Potvin says himself that it is no longer under the GPL. To cite the GPL: 4. 
>You may not copy, modify, sublicense, distribute or transfer the Program 
>except as expressly provided under this General Public License. He's also 
>only disting binary versions, with no source availible, and as he already 
>broke the GPL once why not twice.. take a look at 
><A  HREF="http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html">http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html</A>    for more info .. else I think 
>its hilliarous to give 25$ for a channel mode, 3 commands when you can get 
>better than that for free (see all Elite hybrids)   IRCds has always been 
>free should always be free (Webmaster Inc. may do something like the same, 
>everyone knows) -UnrealIRCd coder.



At 22:04 29/10/99 , you wrote:
>Ok, Not to say anything bad about Elite because I personally love it's
>features. But as a note, it now costs $5.00 U.S. Which isn't much at all.
>Just noting this as most IRCDs are free.
>
>Just thought you should know.

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From chriswh at cyberhighway.net  Sat Oct 30 06:26:52 1999
From: chriswh at cyberhighway.net (Chris)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] cpu consumption
Message-ID: 199910301301.PAA06283@Ender.gp.school.za

Yes, I am strongly against his selling of the software, and as this does
not relate to services, forgive me, but he claims he is selling JUST his
code, the rest comes with it free. And, Pertaining to Services, In the past
Elite has not done well with services at all. IMHO, I wouldn't use it
[Elite] with services. Unreal IRCD is extremely similar to Elite IRCD, if
Unreal could just have/fix a mode +L (which I personally don't really have
an opinion about) would be just like Elite and Potvin wouldn't get any
"customers". Kick him where it hurts in other words. Please note, I do not
hate Potvin, I've had the priviledge of admining with him and he's really
not a bad person. I just do not agree with his selling an IRCD. Also if
Unreal has a fixed +L, I am not aware of it, but I don't keep up with it so
I may be wrong. But I would go with Unreal if you like the "Elite style"
IRCD.

Just my $.02

-psych0path

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> From: egg@writeme.com
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] cpu consumption
> Date: Saturday, October 30, 1999 1:23 AM
> 
> 
> A quick note here.  This guy is selling GNU software...... Or in other
> words he's doing something he isn't allowed to do....
> 
> Read http://www.freshmeat.net/appindex/1999/10/17/940203481.html
> A small extract:
> >Potvin says himself that it is no longer under the GPL. To cite the GPL:
4. 
> >You may not copy, modify, sublicense, distribute or transfer the Program

> >except as expressly provided under this General Public License. He's
also 
> >only disting binary versions, with no source availible, and as he
already 
> >broke the GPL once why not twice.. take a look at 
> ><A  HREF="http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html">http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html</A>    for more info .. else I
think 
> >its hilliarous to give 25$ for a channel mode, 3 commands when you can
get 
> >better than that for free (see all Elite hybrids)   IRCds has always
been 
> >free should always be free (Webmaster Inc. may do something like the
same, 
> >everyone knows) -UnrealIRCd coder.
> 
> 
> 
> At 22:04 29/10/99 , you wrote:
> >Ok, Not to say anything bad about Elite because I personally love it's
> >features. But as a note, it now costs $5.00 U.S. Which isn't much at
all.
> >Just noting this as most IRCDs are free.
> >
> >Just thought you should know.
> 
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From chriswh at cyberhighway.net  Sat Oct 30 06:36:33 1999
From: chriswh at cyberhighway.net (Chris)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] All connections in use
Message-ID: 199910301311.PAA06546@Ender.gp.school.za

This may not help you much Rafael, as I'm not exactly sure, but I would try
running the servers on different ports.
For example,
Server1 run on port 7029
Server2 run on port 7030

C/N Lines for Server1 would be:
C:(Server2's IP or Hostname):(link password):(Server2's name):7030:50
N:(Server2's IP or Hostname):(connect password):(Server2's name)::50

then C/N Lines for Server2 would be:
C:(Server1's IP or Hostname):(link password):(Server1's name):7029:50
N:(Server1's IP or Hostname):(connect password):(Server1's name)::50

Also make sure you have P Lines for the ports, just to be safe, put these
in both server's ircd.conf files:
P:*:*:*:7029
P:*:*:*:7030

Hope that helps. If I'm wrong someone please correct me as I've never
messed with two servers from the same machine/account before. And If
someone could help him with the kernel again so he only has to run one
server, I'm sure that would help alot. Hope that helps Rafael.

-psych0path
----------
> From: Rafael Ritter <rafael@kapa.procergs.com.br>
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: [IRCServices] All connections in use
> Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 8:49 PM
> 
> Friends,
> 
> I know this question is out of topic, but I really need to solve this.
> If there is no interest in talk about that, I only ask you for any ircd
> mailing list.
> 
> I really need to grant access for more than 1000 users. I was reading the
> last e-mails but they'r not specific (or I didn't understood them).
> My solution is run 2 ircds in same machine. But until now I didn´t have
> success. (there is some other solution?)
> 
> My configuration:
> IP: 200.248.240.59
> Server name: psi.procergs.com.br
> Server alias: irc.via-rs.com.br
> # Client Y:lines
> Y:1:90:0:1024:100000
> # Server Y:lines
> Y:50:300:600:1:1000000
> 
> I think the problem is with my C/N lines.
> 
> C:200.248.240.59:pass:200.248.240.59:7029:50
> N:200.248.240.59:pass:200.248.240.59::50
> C:irc.via-rs.com.br:pass:irc.via-rs.com.br:7029:50
> N:irc.via-rs.com.br:pass:irc.via-rs.com.br::50
> 
> This is the first time I try to link two servers. You may smile if there
> are some primary mistakes :-)
> 
> Rafael Ritter
> Equipe VIA RS
> 
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From quension at softhome.net  Sat Oct 30 12:47:22 1999
From: quension at softhome.net (quension@softhome.net)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] All connections in use
References: <199910301311.PAA06546@Ender.gp.school.za>
Message-ID: 381B4B4A.46BEA300@softhome.net

Chris wrote:

> This may not help you much Rafael, as I'm not exactly sure, but I would try
> running the servers on different ports.
> For example,
> Server1 run on port 7029
> Server2 run on port 7030

Do it in the M:lines.

Server1:
M:(Server1's name):200.248.240.59:(Server1's description):7029

Server2:
M:(Server2's name):200.248.240.59:(Server2's description):7030

> C/N Lines for Server1 would be:
> C:(Server2's IP or Hostname):(link password):(Server2's name):7030:50
> N:(Server2's IP or Hostname):(connect password):(Server2's name)::50
>
> then C/N Lines for Server2 would be:
> C:(Server1's IP or Hostname):(link password):(Server1's name):7029:50
> N:(Server1's IP or Hostname):(connect password):(Server1's name)::50

Note the IP/hostname will be the same for both servers.

> Also make sure you have P Lines for the ports, just to be safe, put these
> in both server's ircd.conf files:
> P:*:*:*:7029
> P:*:*:*:7030

Be careful with the P:lines; some ircds crash if you have the same port in the
P:line as the one in the M:line.
Also note the NEITHER server can have the same ports (P:lines) as the other.
That means you cannot have P:lines for port 6667 on both ircds, which might
deflate your idea of allowing 2000 (or more) clients easily, since 1000 of
those clients would need to specify another port when they connect.

The exception to all that would be if you used another vhost, i.e. as if you
had another shell/machine.

> Hope that helps. If I'm wrong someone please correct me as I've never
> messed with two servers from the same machine/account before. And If
> someone could help him with the kernel again so he only has to run one
> server, I'm sure that would help alot. Hope that helps Rafael.

I know nothing about the kernel restrictions... but regardless, this line
limits you to 1024 incoming clients:

>> Y:1:90:0:1024:100000

Change the 1024 to something higher.


-- Quension

BTW, what IS a good ircd mailing list?

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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Sat Oct 30 13:05:12 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] All connections in use
In-Reply-To: <381B4B4A.46BEA300@softhome.net>
References: 381B4B4A.46BEA300@softhome.net
Message-ID: NCBBIPDDJGGDOCPMKPKPEEOOCOAA.andrewk@icon.co.za

[snip... err, actually a lot of hacking and chopping]
> -- Quension
>
> BTW, what IS a good ircd mailing list?

You could use the dal-src mailing list - they seem to be able to help with
technical stuff. Although they do have a happy habbit of ignoring legitimate
questions. These types of help mailing lists always become arogant because
the same questions are asked over and over. A comprehensive FAQ would be
more useful imho. Offers? :)

Andrew


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From lebleu at prefer.net  Sat Oct 30 14:02:29 1999
From: lebleu at prefer.net (Kevin)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] cpu consumption
In-Reply-To: <199910301301.PAA06283@Ender.gp.school.za>
References: 199910301301.PAA06283@Ender.gp.school.za
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.00.9910301559280.2227&#45;100000@hades.bleu.paganpaths.org


On Sat, 30 Oct 1999, Chris wrote:

> Yes, I am strongly against his selling of the software, and as this does
> not relate to services, forgive me, but he claims he is selling JUST his
> code, the rest comes with it free. And, Pertaining to Services, In the past

If the rest of the code is under GPL, that's not legal - he has to make
*all* source available to anyone he gives binaries to.  If he doesn't, he
doesn't have the right to distribute it at *all*, because of the GPLed
code.  If he is actually violating the license, I'd strongly advise
against using his software.  If he wants to sell an ircd, he has to write
it entirely himself, or start from something under a BSD-style license.

--Kevin

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From syntax at relic.net  Wed Nov  3 01:17:57 1999
From: syntax at relic.net (syntax)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] IMPORT-DB
Message-ID: 4.2.0.58.19991103031653.0094d2b0@pop.tiac.net

Anyone who converted dbs from magick to esper, please tell me exactly how 
you did it, im getting seg fault and "Cant open (null)/nick.db~ for 
openingNo Such File or directory, any help would greatly be appreciated.

Sincerely Yours,

        syntax

+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+
+      RelicNet IRC Network!       +
+      /server irc.relic.net            +
+      http://www.relic.net/         +
+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+
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From jpinto9 at visteon.com  Wed Nov  3 01:22:02 1999
From: jpinto9 at visteon.com (Pinto, Joao Luis (J.))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] IMPORT-DB
Message-ID: 199911030922.EAA09869@mailfw1.ford.com

The probelm is in the datafiles directory, make sure you entered the right
path

João Luís Marques Pinto
PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
http://www.PTlink.net  


-----Original Message-----
From: syntax [<A  HREF="mailto:syntax@relic.net">mailto:syntax@relic.net</A>]
Sent: quarta-feira, 3 de novembro de 1999 9:18
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: [IRCServices] IMPORT-DB


Anyone who converted dbs from magick to esper, please tell me exactly how 
you did it, im getting seg fault and "Cant open (null)/nick.db~ for 
openingNo Such File or directory, any help would greatly be appreciated.

Sincerely Yours,

        syntax

+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+
+      RelicNet IRC Network!       +
+      /server irc.relic.net            +
+      <A  HREF="http://www.relic.net/">http://www.relic.net/</A>         +
+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+
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From rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br  Wed Nov  3 05:45:53 1999
From: rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br (Rafael Ritter)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] IMPORT-DB
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19991103031653.0094d2b0@pop.tiac.net>
References: 4.2.0.58.19991103031653.0094d2b0@pop.tiac.net
Message-ID: 3.0.6.32.19991103114553.007de100@kapa.procergs.com.br

I did that some months ago.
In a FreeBSD machine, chan.db could not be imported, in a linux machine,
all the db´s have been imported successfully, but once. The second time I
tried to do that, another error happened.
I think import-db is very temperamental =]



At 03:17 03/11/99 -0600, you wrote:
>Anyone who converted dbs from magick to esper, please tell me exactly how 
>you did it, im getting seg fault and "Cant open (null)/nick.db~ for 
>openingNo Such File or directory, any help would greatly be appreciated.
>
>Sincerely Yours,
>
>       syntax
>
>+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+
>+      RelicNet IRC Network!       +
>+      /server irc.relic.net            +
>+      http://www.relic.net/         +
>+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+
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From wibbles at pd.jaring.my  Wed Nov  3 07:16:22 1999
From: wibbles at pd.jaring.my (Sze Er)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] IMPORT-DB
References: <199911030922.EAA09869@mailfw1.ford.com>
Message-ID: 001d01bf260e$6d3d6140$8c868ea1@jaring.my

What should I do to solve this?
I dunno what's wrong...

(ircadmin@www ~/PTlink.Services1.4.0)$ make import-db
gcc  -O2 -Wall -g -c import-db.c

import-db.c: In function `m14_load_sop':
import-db.c:548: warning: unused variable `s'
gcc  -O2 -Wall -g -DNOT_MAIN -c config.c -o config-x.o
gcc  -O2 -Wall -g -DNOT_MAIN -c datafiles.c -o datafiles-x.o
gcc  import-db.o config-x.o datafiles-x.o compat.o
misc.o  -lnsl -lresolv -lbsd -o import-db
datafiles-x.o: In function `open_db_write':
/home/sites/site11/users/ircadmin/PTlink.Services1.4.0/datafiles.c:159:
undefined reference to `wallops'
make: *** [import-db] Error 1


----- Original Message -----
From: Pinto, Joao Luis (J.) <jpinto9@visteon.com>
To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 5:22 PM
Subject: RE: [IRCServices] IMPORT-DB


The probelm is in the datafiles directory, make sure you entered the right
path

João Luís Marques Pinto
PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
http://www.PTlink.net


-----Original Message-----
From: syntax [<A  HREF="mailto:syntax@relic.net">mailto:syntax@relic.net</A>]
Sent: quarta-feira, 3 de novembro de 1999 9:18
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: [IRCServices] IMPORT-DB


Anyone who converted dbs from magick to esper, please tell me exactly how
you did it, im getting seg fault and "Cant open (null)/nick.db~ for
openingNo Such File or directory, any help would greatly be appreciated.

Sincerely Yours,

syntax

+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+
+      RelicNet IRC Network!       +
+      /server irc.relic.net            +
+      <A  HREF="http://www.relic.net/">http://www.relic.net/</A>         +
+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+
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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Wed Nov  3 11:12:18 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] IMPORT-DB
In-Reply-To: <001d01bf260e$6d3d6140$8c868ea1@jaring.my>
References: 001d01bf260e$6d3d6140$8c868ea1@jaring.my
Message-ID: NCBBIPDDJGGDOCPMKPKPGEBDCPAA.andrewk@icon.co.za

I think you're running an old version of services. What version is it?

Andrew

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of Sze Er
> Sent: 03 November 1999 17:16
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] IMPORT-DB
>
>
> What should I do to solve this?
> I dunno what's wrong...
>
> (ircadmin@www ~/PTlink.Services1.4.0)$ make import-db
> gcc  -O2 -Wall -g -c import-db.c
>
> import-db.c: In function `m14_load_sop':
> import-db.c:548: warning: unused variable `s'
> gcc  -O2 -Wall -g -DNOT_MAIN -c config.c -o config-x.o
> gcc  -O2 -Wall -g -DNOT_MAIN -c datafiles.c -o datafiles-x.o
> gcc  import-db.o config-x.o datafiles-x.o compat.o
> misc.o  -lnsl -lresolv -lbsd -o import-db
> datafiles-x.o: In function `open_db_write':
> /home/sites/site11/users/ircadmin/PTlink.Services1.4.0/datafiles.c:159:
> undefined reference to `wallops'
> make: *** [import-db] Error 1
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pinto, Joao Luis (J.) <jpinto9@visteon.com>
> To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 5:22 PM
> Subject: RE: [IRCServices] IMPORT-DB
>
>
> The probelm is in the datafiles directory, make sure you entered the right
> path
>
> João Luís Marques Pinto
> PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
> <A  HREF="http://www.PTlink.net">http://www.PTlink.net</A>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: syntax [<A  HREF="mailto:syntax@relic.net">mailto:syntax@relic.net</A>]
> Sent: quarta-feira, 3 de novembro de 1999 9:18
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: [IRCServices] IMPORT-DB
>
>
> Anyone who converted dbs from magick to esper, please tell me exactly how
> you did it, im getting seg fault and "Cant open (null)/nick.db~ for
> openingNo Such File or directory, any help would greatly be appreciated.
>
> Sincerely Yours,
>
> syntax
>
> +*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+
> +      RelicNet IRC Network!       +
> +      /server irc.relic.net            +
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From rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br  Wed Nov  3 11:39:24 1999
From: rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br (Rafael Ritter)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ircd´s
In-Reply-To: <NCBBIPDDJGGDOCPMKPKPEEOOCOAA.andrewk@icon.co.za>
References: <381B4B4A.46BEA300@softhome.net>
Message-ID: 3.0.6.32.19991103173924.007ec640@kapa.procergs.com.br

Talking about Unreal IRCd...

someone knows why the users´s host appear like this: 
[17:26] *** Vanessa_Qualzinha (~Vanessa@VR) has joined #viars
                                        ^^
look at "@VR". If I try to ban by host, I will ban everybody in my server.
Usually, there is a distinction in the hidden hostname, like 
~Vanessa*VR-3455 to allow OP´s put a ban by host.
         ^^^^^^^^
if there is an way to fix that, please help me.

Rafael Ritter

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From rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br  Wed Nov  3 12:10:18 1999
From: rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br (Rafael Ritter)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] IMPORT-DB
In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19991103114553.007de100@kapa.procergs.com.br>
References: <4.2.0.58.19991103031653.0094d2b0@pop.tiac.net>
Message-ID: 3.0.6.32.19991103181018.009e3c80@kapa.procergs.com.br

Another problem I saw:

The IP appears like nickname@200.248.24.5.VR
Totally useless

This is the best IRCd I have ever seen, but this problem is serious.

Rafael Ritter

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From syntax at relic.net  Wed Nov  3 15:37:23 1999
From: syntax at relic.net (syntax)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Services Oper Expire Removal
Message-ID: 4.2.0.58.19991103173513.0094f8e0@pop.tiac.net

Ok, I limited expire time to sops (opers get just the default 2 days added)
Code: if (mask && *mask == '+' && is_services_oper (u)) {

Now, Is there a way for this to work for AKILL DEL, I want SOPS to only be 
able to remove the ones with expire times on them (when they added the akill)

but, if a akill was not given an expire time, just the default 2 days, i 
want opers to be able to remove it, opers shouldnt be able to remove ones 
set with expire times, since i limited it to sops.

Sincerely Yours,

        syntax

+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+
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From wibbles at pd.jaring.my  Wed Nov  3 16:03:39 1999
From: wibbles at pd.jaring.my (Sze Er)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] IMPORT-DB
References: <NCBBIPDDJGGDOCPMKPKPGEBDCPAA.andrewk@icon.co.za>
Message-ID: 003801bf2658$125b15c0$44d68ea1@jaring.my

I am using the modify version of ircservices by PTlink...

Regards,

----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Kempe <andrewk@icon.co.za>
To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 3:12 AM
Subject: RE: [IRCServices] IMPORT-DB


I think you're running an old version of services. What version is it?

Andrew

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of Sze Er
> Sent: 03 November 1999 17:16
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] IMPORT-DB
>
>
> What should I do to solve this?
> I dunno what's wrong...
>
> (ircadmin@www ~/PTlink.Services1.4.0)$ make import-db
> gcc  -O2 -Wall -g -c import-db.c
>
> import-db.c: In function `m14_load_sop':
> import-db.c:548: warning: unused variable `s'
> gcc  -O2 -Wall -g -DNOT_MAIN -c config.c -o config-x.o
> gcc  -O2 -Wall -g -DNOT_MAIN -c datafiles.c -o datafiles-x.o
> gcc  import-db.o config-x.o datafiles-x.o compat.o
> misc.o  -lnsl -lresolv -lbsd -o import-db
> datafiles-x.o: In function `open_db_write':
> /home/sites/site11/users/ircadmin/PTlink.Services1.4.0/datafiles.c:159:
> undefined reference to `wallops'
> make: *** [import-db] Error 1
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pinto, Joao Luis (J.) <jpinto9@visteon.com>
> To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 5:22 PM
> Subject: RE: [IRCServices] IMPORT-DB
>
>
> The probelm is in the datafiles directory, make sure you entered the right
> path
>
> João Luís Marques Pinto
> PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
> <A  HREF="http://www.PTlink.net">http://www.PTlink.net</A>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: syntax [<A  HREF="mailto:syntax@relic.net">mailto:syntax@relic.net</A>]
> Sent: quarta-feira, 3 de novembro de 1999 9:18
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: [IRCServices] IMPORT-DB
>
>
> Anyone who converted dbs from magick to esper, please tell me exactly how
> you did it, im getting seg fault and "Cant open (null)/nick.db~ for
> openingNo Such File or directory, any help would greatly be appreciated.
>
> Sincerely Yours,
>
> syntax
>
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From wibbles at pd.jaring.my  Wed Nov  3 16:04:19 1999
From: wibbles at pd.jaring.my (Sze Er)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Re: [IRCServices] ircd´s
References: <381B4B4A.46BEA300@softhome.net> <3.0.6.32.19991103173924.007ec640@kapa.procergs.com.br>
Message-ID: 003f01bf2658$26e9d760$44d68ea1@jaring.my

By the way, what is the Unreal IRCD ftp url?


Regards,
----- Original Message -----
From: Rafael Ritter <rafael@kapa.procergs.com.br>
To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 3:39 AM
Subject: [IRCServices] ircd´s


Talking about Unreal IRCd...

someone knows why the users´s host appear like this:
[17:26] *** Vanessa_Qualzinha (~Vanessa@VR) has joined #viars
                                        ^^
look at "@VR". If I try to ban by host, I will ban everybody in my server.
Usually, there is a distinction in the hidden hostname, like
~Vanessa*VR-3455 to allow OP´s put a ban by host.
         ^^^^^^^^
if there is an way to fix that, please help me.

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From scrm at scandal.org  Wed Nov  3 18:10:14 1999
From: scrm at scandal.org (Mehran Khalili)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Re: [IRCServices] Re: [IRCServices] ircd´s
References: <381B4B4A.46BEA300@softhome.net> <3.0.6.32.19991103173924.007ec640@kapa.procergs.com.br> <003f01bf2658$26e9d760$44d68ea1@jaring.my>
Message-ID: 003d01bf2669$bf1e0360$57cc07c2@xilo


----- Original Message -----
From: Sze Er <wibbles@pd.jaring.my>
To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 12:04 AM
Subject: [IRCServices] Re: [IRCServices] ircd´s


> By the way, what is the Unreal IRCD ftp url?
>

It's at

http://the.elite-hacker.cx/unreal/

(however I just checked and this site was down. It was up yesterday, so I
would wait. A new version of the server will be out soon).

I've been using Unreal IRCD since day 1, and really, it has worked
perfectly. I certainly haven't witnessed the problems that were described
before (for banning hosts).

cya

Mehran

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From bombbomb at wwdg.com  Wed Nov  3 21:20:16 1999
From: bombbomb at wwdg.com (¬µ¼u¥J)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Unreal
In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19991103181018.009e3c80@kapa.procergs.com.br>
References: <3.0.6.32.19991103114553.007de100@kapa.procergs.com.br><4.2.0.58.19991103031653.0094d2b0@pop.tiac.net>
Message-ID: 4.1.19991104131824.00929480@mail.wwdg.com

At 06:10 PM 1999/11/3 -0200, you wrote: 

>Another problem I saw:
>
>The IP appears like nickname@200.248.24.5.VR
>Totally useless
>
>This is the best IRCd I have ever seen, but this problem is serious.
>
>Rafael Ritter

I was using the unreal for about 3 months, there is no such problems. It 's
a really cool.
The latest of Unreal is "Unreal2.1.6-tCx3.tar.gz".


                                                bomb

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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Wed Nov  3 22:14:56 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] IMPORT-DB
In-Reply-To: <003801bf2658$125b15c0$44d68ea1@jaring.my>
References: 003801bf2658$125b15c0$44d68ea1@jaring.my
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.3.96.991104081301.26825A&#45;100000@shell.icon.co.za

Then please contact them. As we've mentioned before, if you have a
problem, upgrade to the latest version of IRC Services before reporting
the bug. 

There was a problem with one of the earlier releases of IRC Services that
might have caused this problem. It is likely the PT Link version was built
off of a broken IRC Services.

Regards, Andrew

On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Sze Er wrote:

> I am using the modify version of ircservices by PTlink...
> 
> Regards,
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Andrew Kempe <andrewk@icon.co.za>
> To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 3:12 AM
> Subject: RE: [IRCServices] IMPORT-DB
> 
> 
> I think you're running an old version of services. What version is it?
> 
> Andrew
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> > [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of Sze Er
> > Sent: 03 November 1999 17:16
> > To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> > Subject: Re: [IRCServices] IMPORT-DB
> >
> >
> > What should I do to solve this?
> > I dunno what's wrong...
> >
> > (ircadmin@www ~/PTlink.Services1.4.0)$ make import-db
> > gcc  -O2 -Wall -g -c import-db.c
> >
> > import-db.c: In function `m14_load_sop':
> > import-db.c:548: warning: unused variable `s'
> > gcc  -O2 -Wall -g -DNOT_MAIN -c config.c -o config-x.o
> > gcc  -O2 -Wall -g -DNOT_MAIN -c datafiles.c -o datafiles-x.o
> > gcc  import-db.o config-x.o datafiles-x.o compat.o
> > misc.o  -lnsl -lresolv -lbsd -o import-db
> > datafiles-x.o: In function `open_db_write':
> > /home/sites/site11/users/ircadmin/PTlink.Services1.4.0/datafiles.c:159:
> > undefined reference to `wallops'
> > make: *** [import-db] Error 1
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Pinto, Joao Luis (J.) <jpinto9@visteon.com>
> > To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 5:22 PM
> > Subject: RE: [IRCServices] IMPORT-DB
> >
> >
> > The probelm is in the datafiles directory, make sure you entered the right
> > path
> >
> > João Luís Marques Pinto
> > PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
> > <A  HREF="http://www.PTlink.net">http://www.PTlink.net</A>
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: syntax [<A  HREF="mailto:syntax@relic.net">mailto:syntax@relic.net</A>]
> > Sent: quarta-feira, 3 de novembro de 1999 9:18
> > To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> > Subject: [IRCServices] IMPORT-DB
> >
> >
> > Anyone who converted dbs from magick to esper, please tell me exactly how
> > you did it, im getting seg fault and "Cant open (null)/nick.db~ for
> > openingNo Such File or directory, any help would greatly be appreciated.
> >
> > Sincerely Yours,
> >
> > syntax
> >
> > +*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+
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> > +      /server irc.relic.net            +
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From rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br  Thu Nov  4 03:40:39 1999
From: rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br (Rafael Ritter)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Unreal
In-Reply-To: <4.1.19991104131824.00929480@mail.wwdg.com>
References: <3.0.6.32.19991103181018.009e3c80@kapa.procergs.com.br><3.0.6.32.19991103114553.007de100@kapa.procergs.com.br><4.2.0.58.19991103031653.0094d2b0@pop.tiac.net>
Message-ID: 3.0.6.32.19991104094039.00a65100@kapa.procergs.com.br

But how do you manipulate the hosts that are the same to everyone?
When is not the same, like nickname@HOST, all the IP is shown, like
200.248.240.43.VR. May I only put a ban by nickname?

Rafael Ritter
http://www.via-rs.com.br/pessoais/rafaelrr

At 13:20 04/11/99 +0800, you wrote:
>At 06:10 PM 1999/11/3 -0200, you wrote: 
>
>>Another problem I saw:
>>
>>The IP appears like nickname@200.248.24.5.VR
>>Totally useless
>>
>>This is the best IRCd I have ever seen, but this problem is serious.
>>
>>Rafael Ritter
>
>I was using the unreal for about 3 months, there is no such problems. It 's
>a really cool.
>The latest of Unreal is "Unreal2.1.6-tCx3.tar.gz".
>
>
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From jpinto9 at visteon.com  Thu Nov  4 04:53:09 1999
From: jpinto9 at visteon.com (Pinto, Joao Luis (J.))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Unreal
Message-ID: 199911041253.HAA26006@mailfw3.ford.com

I think handling masks and bans is very far from the subject of this ML, 
please contact your ircd coder :P

João Luís Marques Pinto
PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
http://www.PTlink.net  



-----Original Message-----
From: Rafael Ritter [<A  HREF="mailto:rafael@kapa.procergs.com.br">mailto:rafael@kapa.procergs.com.br</A>]
Sent: quinta-feira, 4 de novembro de 1999 11:41
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Unreal


But how do you manipulate the hosts that are the same to everyone?
When is not the same, like nickname@HOST, all the IP is shown, like
200.248.240.43.VR. May I only put a ban by nickname?

Rafael Ritter
<A  HREF="http://www.via-rs.com.br/pessoais/rafaelrr">http://www.via-rs.com.br/pessoais/rafaelrr</A>

At 13:20 04/11/99 +0800, you wrote:
>At 06:10 PM 1999/11/3 -0200, you wrote: 
>
>>Another problem I saw:
>>
>>The IP appears like nickname@200.248.24.5.VR
>>Totally useless
>>
>>This is the best IRCd I have ever seen, but this problem is serious.
>>
>>Rafael Ritter
>
>I was using the unreal for about 3 months, there is no such problems. It 's
>a really cool.
>The latest of Unreal is "Unreal2.1.6-tCx3.tar.gz".
>
>
>                                               bomb
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From joshodom at uswest.net  Sun Dec  5 06:35:06 1999
From: joshodom at uswest.net (Josh Odom)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Unreal
In-Reply-To: <4.1.19991104131824.00929480@mail.wwdg.com>
References: 4.1.19991104131824.00929480@mail.wwdg.com
Message-ID: LNBBIDPHKBGLGHDPOHNACEAMCAAA.joshodom@uswest.net

If you wanted to ban the IP address, you would ban 200.248.24.5.*.
If that is the problem you are seeing.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
[mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of ¬µ¼u¥J
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 9:20 PM
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: [IRCServices] Unreal


At 06:10 PM 1999/11/3 -0200, you wrote:

>Another problem I saw:
>
>The IP appears like nickname@200.248.24.5.VR
>Totally useless
>
>This is the best IRCd I have ever seen, but this problem is serious.
>
>Rafael Ritter

I was using the unreal for about 3 months, there is no such problems. It 's
a really cool.
The latest of Unreal is "Unreal2.1.6-tCx3.tar.gz".


                                                bomb

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From scotts at flamebait.org  Thu Nov  4 07:11:28 1999
From: scotts at flamebait.org (Scott Seufert)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Unreal
Message-ID: 19991104151128393.AAA232@stream.qx.net@[208.235.88.25]



----------
>From: "Pinto, Joao Luis (J.)" <jpinto9@visteon.com>
>To: "'ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org'" <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
>Subject: RE: [IRCServices] Unreal
>Date: Thu.Nov 04.1999.07.53
>

> I think handling masks and bans is very far from the subject of this ML,
> please contact your ircd coder :P
>
> João Luís Marques Pinto
> PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
> http://www.PTlink.net
>


I agree 100% IMO the only instance that the ircd should be concidered part
of the topic would be for compatability purposes.


kat
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From rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br  Thu Nov  4 08:06:34 1999
From: rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br (Rafael Ritter)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Unreal
In-Reply-To: <19991104151128393.AAA232@stream.qx.net@[208.235.88.25]>
References: 19991104151128393.AAA232@stream.qx.net@[208.235.88.25]
Message-ID: 3.0.6.32.19991104140634.009f2c30@kapa.procergs.com.br

OK, sorry everyone

I just asked about that, because someone was talking about Unreal IRCd.
Sorry, sorry :P

Rafael Ritter
Equipe VIA RS

At 10:11 04/11/99 -0500, you wrote:
>
>
>----------
>>From: "Pinto, Joao Luis (J.)" <jpinto9@visteon.com>
>>To: "'ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org'" <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
>>Subject: RE: [IRCServices] Unreal
>>Date: Thu.Nov 04.1999.07.53
>>
>
>> I think handling masks and bans is very far from the subject of this ML,
>> please contact your ircd coder :P
>>
>> João Luís Marques Pinto
>> PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
>> http://www.PTlink.net
>>
>
>
>I agree 100% IMO the only instance that the ircd should be concidered part
>of the topic would be for compatability purposes.
>
>
>kat
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From bombbomb at wwdg.com  Thu Nov  4 23:50:57 1999
From: bombbomb at wwdg.com (¬µ¼u¥J)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Unreal
In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19991104094039.00a65100@kapa.procergs.com.br>
References: <4.1.19991104131824.00929480@mail.wwdg.com><3.0.6.32.19991103181018.009e3c80@kapa.procergs.com.br><3.0.6.32.19991103114553.007de100@kapa.procergs.com.br><4.2.0.58.19991103031653.0094d2b0@pop.tiac.net>
Message-ID: 4.1.19991105154356.00925730@mail.wwdg.com

Hi,

        Umm.. actually, i did not have this problems. The cloaking works fine with
me. I am
using Unreal2.1.6-tCx3. All the host and ip show are ChatCafe-2322.isp.com and 
127.0.0.ChatCafe-2322. Maybe u can download the latest version and try
again ^.^

                                                bomb

ChatCafe IRC Network - A IRC Server in Hong Kong.
URL: http://www.chatcafe.net
IRC Server : irc.chatcafe.net




At 09:40 AM 1999/11/4 -0200, you wrote: 

>But how do you manipulate the hosts that are the same to everyone?
>When is not the same, like nickname@HOST, all the IP is shown, like
>200.248.240.43.VR. May I only put a ban by nickname?
>
>Rafael Ritter
><A  HREF="http://www.via-rs.com.br/pessoais/rafaelrr">http://www.via-rs.com.br/pessoais/rafaelrr</A>
>
>At 13:20 04/11/99 +0800, you wrote:
>>At 06:10 PM 1999/11/3 -0200, you wrote: 
>>
>>>Another problem I saw:
>>>
>>>The IP appears like nickname@200.248.24.5.VR
>>>Totally useless
>>>
>>>This is the best IRCd I have ever seen, but this problem is serious.
>>>
>>>Rafael Ritter
>>
>>I was using the unreal for about 3 months, there is no such problems. It 's
>>a really cool.
>>The latest of Unreal is "Unreal2.1.6-tCx3.tar.gz".
>>
>>
>>                                              bomb
>>
>>ChatCafe IRC Network
>>URL: <A  HREF="http://www.chatcafe.net">http://www.chatcafe.net</A>
>>IRC Server : irc.chatcafe.net
>>
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From rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br  Fri Nov  5 10:49:45 1999
From: rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br (Rafael Ritter)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Unreal
In-Reply-To: <4.1.19991105154356.00925730@mail.wwdg.com>
References: <3.0.6.32.19991104094039.00a65100@kapa.procergs.com.br><4.1.19991104131824.00929480@mail.wwdg.com><3.0.6.32.19991103181018.009e3c80@kapa.procergs.com.br><3.0.6.32.19991103114553.007de100@kapa.procergs.com.br><4.2.0.58.19991103031653.0094d2b0@pop.tiac.net>
Message-ID: 3.0.6.32.19991105164945.00b79a80@kapa.procergs.com.br

Hi,

I´m using this version too. I was talking with the programmer of Unreal and
he found the problem. In my .network file, there was a space after the
network string (in your case, ChatCafe). This space was causing the errors.
This information may be usefull to you to.

Tanx anyway :)

Rafael Ritter
Equipe VIA RS
irc.via-rs.com.br

At 15:50 05/11/99 +0800, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>       Umm.. actually, i did not have this problems. The cloaking works fine with
>me. I am
>using Unreal2.1.6-tCx3. All the host and ip show are ChatCafe-2322.isp.com
and 
>127.0.0.ChatCafe-2322. Maybe u can download the latest version and try
>again ^.^
>
>                                               bomb
>
>ChatCafe IRC Network - A IRC Server in Hong Kong.
>URL: http://www.chatcafe.net
>IRC Server : irc.chatcafe.net
>
>
>
>
>At 09:40 AM 1999/11/4 -0200, you wrote: 
>
>>But how do you manipulate the hosts that are the same to everyone?
>>When is not the same, like nickname@HOST, all the IP is shown, like
>>200.248.240.43.VR. May I only put a ban by nickname?
>>
>>Rafael Ritter
>><A  HREF="http://www.via-rs.com.br/pessoais/rafaelrr">http://www.via-rs.com.br/pessoais/rafaelrr</A>
>>
>>At 13:20 04/11/99 +0800, you wrote:
>>>At 06:10 PM 1999/11/3 -0200, you wrote: 
>>>
>>>>Another problem I saw:
>>>>
>>>>The IP appears like nickname@200.248.24.5.VR
>>>>Totally useless
>>>>
>>>>This is the best IRCd I have ever seen, but this problem is serious.
>>>>
>>>>Rafael Ritter
>>>
>>>I was using the unreal for about 3 months, there is no such problems. It 's
>>>a really cool.
>>>The latest of Unreal is "Unreal2.1.6-tCx3.tar.gz".
>>>
>>>
>>>                                             bomb
>>>
>>>ChatCafe IRC Network
>>>URL: <A  HREF="http://www.chatcafe.net">http://www.chatcafe.net</A>
>>>IRC Server : irc.chatcafe.net
>>>
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From rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br  Fri Nov  5 10:56:49 1999
From: rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br (Rafael Ritter)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Unreal
In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19991104140634.009f2c30@kapa.procergs.com.br>
References: <19991104151128393.AAA232@stream.qx.net@[208.235.88.25]>
Message-ID: 3.0.6.32.19991105165649.00823880@kapa.procergs.com.br

Hello friends,

just for transfer of knowledgement (this is right? :P)

Talking about the problem with the Unreal programmer, I found the problem.
The problem I was talking about happened when, in the .network file, you
forget a space after defining the hidden_host variable. In my case, the
value was "VR " instead of "VR". Well, just in case of someone ask you
about this question. :)

Rafael Ritter
VIA RS Team

At 14:06 04/11/99 -0200, you wrote:
>OK, sorry everyone
>
>I just asked about that, because someone was talking about Unreal IRCd.
>Sorry, sorry :P
>
>Rafael Ritter
>Equipe VIA RS
>
>At 10:11 04/11/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>----------
>>>From: "Pinto, Joao Luis (J.)" <jpinto9@visteon.com>
>>>To: "'ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org'" <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
>>>Subject: RE: [IRCServices] Unreal
>>>Date: Thu.Nov 04.1999.07.53
>>>
>>
>>> I think handling masks and bans is very far from the subject of this ML,
>>> please contact your ircd coder :P
>>>
>>> João Luís Marques Pinto
>>> PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
>>> http://www.PTlink.net
>>>
>>
>>
>>I agree 100% IMO the only instance that the ircd should be concidered part
>>of the topic would be for compatability purposes.
>>
>>
>>kat
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From uhc0 at rz.uni-karlsruhe.de  Fri Nov  5 14:44:53 1999
From: uhc0 at rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Yusuf Iskenderoglu)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:53 2004
Subject: AW: [IRCServices] Unreal - really ?
In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19991105165649.00823880@kapa.procergs.com.br>
References: 3.0.6.32.19991105165649.00823880@kapa.procergs.com.br
Message-ID: NDBBKLOOKLMAKHFICBLCMEIGCCAA.uhc0@rz.uni&#45;karlsruhe.de


Well I think, that, 
any information, that can be relevant to solve any problem for any ircd
other than that are directly supported by services does not have to be
declared, nor described, nor for everyone solved in this mailing list, for
those of us, of course can use private email addresses of those that have
questions regarding these ircd's .

---------------------------------
Yusuf Iskenderoglu
eMail - uhc0@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
ICQ : 20587464 / TimeMr14C
--------------------------------- 


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
[mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]Im Auftrag von Rafael
Ritter
Gesendet: Freitag, 5. November 1999 19:57
An: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Betreff: Re: [IRCServices] Unreal


Hello friends,

just for transfer of knowledgement (this is right? :P)

Talking about the problem with the Unreal programmer, I found the problem.
The problem I was talking about happened when, in the .network file, you
forget a space after defining the hidden_host variable. In my case, the
value was "VR " instead of "VR". Well, just in case of someone ask you
about this question. :)

Rafael Ritter
VIA RS Team

At 14:06 04/11/99 -0200, you wrote:
>OK, sorry everyone
>
>I just asked about that, because someone was talking about Unreal IRCd.
>Sorry, sorry :P
>
>Rafael Ritter
>Equipe VIA RS
>
>At 10:11 04/11/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>----------
>>>From: "Pinto, Joao Luis (J.)" <jpinto9@visteon.com>
>>>To: "'ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org'" <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
>>>Subject: RE: [IRCServices] Unreal
>>>Date: Thu.Nov 04.1999.07.53
>>>
>>
>>> I think handling masks and bans is very far from the subject of this ML,
>>> please contact your ircd coder :P
>>>
>>> João Luís Marques Pinto
>>> PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
>>> <A  HREF="http://www.PTlink.net">http://www.PTlink.net</A>
>>>
>>
>>
>>I agree 100% IMO the only instance that the ircd should be concidered part
>>of the topic would be for compatability purposes.
>>
>>
>>kat
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From bombbomb at wwdg.com  Fri Nov  5 17:06:41 1999
From: bombbomb at wwdg.com (¬µ¼u¥J)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Unreal
In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19991105164945.00b79a80@kapa.procergs.com.br>
References: <4.1.19991105154356.00925730@mail.wwdg.com><3.0.6.32.19991104094039.00a65100@kapa.procergs.com.br><4.1.19991104131824.00929480@mail.wwdg.com><3.0.6.32.19991103181018.009e3c80@kapa.procergs.com.br><3.0.6.32.19991103114553.007de100@kapa.procergs.com.br><4.2.0.58.19991103031653.0094d2b0@pop.tiac.net>
Message-ID: 4.1.19991106090546.00922590@mail.wwdg.com

HI,

        I see. I haven't notice that there is a space after the string "ChatCafe ". :p


                                                        bomb

At 04:49 PM 1999/11/5 -0200, you wrote: 

>Hi,
>
>I´m using this version too. I was talking with the programmer of Unreal and
>he found the problem. In my .network file, there was a space after the
>network string (in your case, ChatCafe). This space was causing the errors.
>This information may be usefull to you to.
>
>Tanx anyway :)
>
>Rafael Ritter
>Equipe VIA RS
>irc.via-rs.com.br
>
>At 15:50 05/11/99 +0800, you wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>      Umm.. actually, i did not have this problems. The cloaking works fine with
>>me. I am
>>using Unreal2.1.6-tCx3. All the host and ip show are ChatCafe-2322.isp.com
>and 
>>127.0.0.ChatCafe-2322. Maybe u can download the latest version and try
>>again ^.^
>>
>>                                              bomb
>>
>>ChatCafe IRC Network - A IRC Server in Hong Kong.
>>URL: http://www.chatcafe.net
>>IRC Server : irc.chatcafe.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>At 09:40 AM 1999/11/4 -0200, you wrote: 
>>
>>>But how do you manipulate the hosts that are the same to everyone?
>>>When is not the same, like nickname@HOST, all the IP is shown, like
>>>200.248.240.43.VR. May I only put a ban by nickname?
>>>
>>>Rafael Ritter
>>><A  HREF="http://www.via-rs.com.br/pessoais/rafaelrr">http://www.via-rs.com.br/pessoais/rafaelrr</A>
>>>
>>>At 13:20 04/11/99 +0800, you wrote:
>>>>At 06:10 PM 1999/11/3 -0200, you wrote: 
>>>>
>>>>>Another problem I saw:
>>>>>
>>>>>The IP appears like nickname@200.248.24.5.VR
>>>>>Totally useless
>>>>>
>>>>>This is the best IRCd I have ever seen, but this problem is serious.
>>>>>
>>>>>Rafael Ritter
>>>>
>>>>I was using the unreal for about 3 months, there is no such problems. It 's
>>>>a really cool.
>>>>The latest of Unreal is "Unreal2.1.6-tCx3.tar.gz".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                                            bomb
>>>>
>>>>ChatCafe IRC Network
>>>>URL: <A  HREF="http://www.chatcafe.net">http://www.chatcafe.net</A>
>>>>IRC Server : irc.chatcafe.net
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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From zshack at alliancelink.com  Sat Nov  6 08:26:17 1999
From: zshack at alliancelink.com (zshack)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] backups
Message-ID: 382456A9.95DF1D97@alliancelink.com

How do i run 2 sets of services so that the secondary set will take over
for the primary ones if they go down?




www.bunker7.net
irc.bunker7.net

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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Sat Nov  6 09:04:24 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] backups
In-Reply-To: <382456A9.95DF1D97@alliancelink.com>
References: 382456A9.95DF1D97@alliancelink.com
Message-ID: NCBBIPDDJGGDOCPMKPKPOECKCPAA.andrewk@icon.co.za

With difficulty, if you want to keep the databases in sync. If you're going
to run the backup copy in readonly mode, that might make things a little
easier. But to be totally honest, I've never tried doing this. Maybe someone
else has/is(?).

Andrew

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of zshack
> Sent: 06 November 1999 18:26
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: [IRCServices] backups
>
>
> How do i run 2 sets of services so that the secondary set will take over
> for the primary ones if they go down?
>
>
>
>
> www.bunker7.net
> irc.bunker7.net
>
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From wibbles at pd.jaring.my  Sat Nov  6 09:13:14 1999
From: wibbles at pd.jaring.my (Sze Er)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] backups
References: <382456A9.95DF1D97@alliancelink.com>
Message-ID: 003601bf287b$3aa45580$c0d58ea1@jaring.my

I would like to know this too...

----- Original Message ----- 
From: zshack <zshack@alliancelink.com>
To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 12:26 AM
Subject: [IRCServices] backups


How do i run 2 sets of services so that the secondary set will take over
for the primary ones if they go down?




www.bunker7.net
irc.bunker7.net

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From zshack at alliancelink.com  Sat Nov  6 10:17:20 1999
From: zshack at alliancelink.com (zshack)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] backups
Message-ID: 382470B0.275F8F1F@alliancelink.com

It says something in the readme that it can be done. I have 2 sets of
services linked, but when the primary fails the secondary set stays in
read only. I was under the impression that the second set would "take
over" unless there is a certain command i can give it to start when the
primary fails.

zshack


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From quension at softhome.net  Sat Nov  6 13:05:22 1999
From: quension at softhome.net (quension@softhome.net)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Re: backups
References: <382470B0.275F8F1F@alliancelink.com>
Message-ID: 38249812.8254C14F@softhome.net

zshack wrote:

> It says something in the readme that it can be done. I have 2 sets of
> services linked, but when the primary fails the secondary set stays in
> read only. I was under the impression that the second set would "take
> over" unless there is a certain command i can give it to start when the
> primary fails.

The secondary set would have to stay in read-only unless you are able to
easily sync the dbs in the opposite direction (from backup to primary) as
well.  And if the backup and primary services are on separate sections of
the network, a network split would cause a nice mess of confusion as users
change things on the backup services that are not echoed to the primary.

I've done some thinking recently as to what a really good backup system
would look like, and have come to the conclusion that it's going to take a
rather large amount of work.

If you still want to run the backups as full services, OperServ's SET
READONLY OFF  may work.

I would like to know how you've set up the backups... are they using
different nicks?

-- Quension

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From kusdogan at boun.edu.tr  Sat Nov  6 13:41:51 1999
From: kusdogan at boun.edu.tr (Sinan Kuþdoðan)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] IRC Daemon core dumpes after 1000 users
References: <382470B0.275F8F1F@alliancelink.com>
Message-ID: 00f101bf289f$be087680$2137fcd4@aqua

A friend of mine told that his server quits with a core dump after having
exactly 1000 users. What may be the problems? Could you help?


irc:~# ulimit -a
core file size (blocks)  0
data seg size (kbytes)   unlimited
file size (blocks)       unlimited
max memory size (kbytes) unlimited
stack size (kbytes)      8192
cpu time (seconds)       unlimited
max user processes       256
pipe size (512 bytes)    8
open files               8192
virtual memory (kbytes)  2105343
irc:~# ulimit -n
8192
irc:~#
irc:~# uname -a
Linux irc 2.2.13 #1 Fri Nov 5 20:47:29 EET 1999 i586 unknown
irc:~#
** dal4.6.7b.DreamForge.


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From zero at racetime.com.au  Sat Nov  6 15:12:52 1999
From: zero at racetime.com.au (Zero)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] IRC Daemon core dumpes after 1000 users
In-Reply-To: <00f101bf289f$be087680$2137fcd4@aqua>
References: 00f101bf289f$be087680$2137fcd4@aqua
Message-ID: 000601bf28ac$733fcbf0$0500a8c0@racetime.com.au

file descriptors?
most likely since i believe linux can only have 1024

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of Sinan
> Kuþdoðan
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 8:42 AM
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: [IRCServices] IRC Daemon core dumpes after 1000 users
>
>
> A friend of mine told that his server quits with a core dump after having
> exactly 1000 users. What may be the problems? Could you help?
>
<snip>

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From zshack at alliancelink.com  Sat Nov  6 15:51:10 1999
From: zshack at alliancelink.com (zshack)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] (no subject)
Message-ID: 3824BEEE.4F32A186@alliancelink.com

I am currently running the second set as -readonly

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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Sun Nov  7 01:27:41 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] IRC Daemon core dumpes after 1000 users
In-Reply-To: <00f101bf289f$be087680$2137fcd4@aqua>
References: 00f101bf289f$be087680$2137fcd4@aqua
Message-ID: NCBBIPDDJGGDOCPMKPKPCEDACPAA.andrewk@icon.co.za

Please direct your question to the appropriate mailing list, namely:

        dalnet-src@dal.net

Thanks, Andrew

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of Sinan
> Kuþdoðan
> Sent: 06 November 1999 23:42
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: [IRCServices] IRC Daemon core dumpes after 1000 users
>
>
> A friend of mine told that his server quits with a core dump after having
> exactly 1000 users. What may be the problems? Could you help?
>
>
> irc:~# ulimit -a
> core file size (blocks)  0
> data seg size (kbytes)   unlimited
> file size (blocks)       unlimited
> max memory size (kbytes) unlimited
> stack size (kbytes)      8192
> cpu time (seconds)       unlimited
> max user processes       256
> pipe size (512 bytes)    8
> open files               8192
> virtual memory (kbytes)  2105343
> irc:~# ulimit -n
> 8192
> irc:~#
> irc:~# uname -a
> Linux irc 2.2.13 #1 Fri Nov 5 20:47:29 EET 1999 i586 unknown
> irc:~#
> ** dal4.6.7b.DreamForge.
>
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From chriswh at cyberhighway.net  Sun Nov  7 11:44:08 1999
From: chriswh at cyberhighway.net (Chris)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Re: backups
Message-ID: 199911071921.VAA09087@Ender.gp.school.za

I know this is not what you guys are looking for, but so you don't get a
huge mess, you could try making something like DALnet's (or use to be).
When main services go down, instead of worrying about making all this have
to match(which could be a real pain) make a services link that would say
that services are temporarily down and other nice stuff. This may be coded
directly into the dalnet IRCD, as I think it is, because server's with no
links whatsoever have this message. I don't know, just throwing in my
worthless comments =)

-Chris

----------
> From: quension@softhome.net
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: [IRCServices] Re: backups
> Date: Saturday, November 06, 1999 4:05 PM
> 
> zshack wrote:
> 
> > It says something in the readme that it can be done. I have 2 sets of
> > services linked, but when the primary fails the secondary set stays in
> > read only. I was under the impression that the second set would "take
> > over" unless there is a certain command i can give it to start when the
> > primary fails.
> 
> The secondary set would have to stay in read-only unless you are able to
> easily sync the dbs in the opposite direction (from backup to primary) as
> well.  And if the backup and primary services are on separate sections of
> the network, a network split would cause a nice mess of confusion as
users
> change things on the backup services that are not echoed to the primary.
> 
> I've done some thinking recently as to what a really good backup system
> would look like, and have come to the conclusion that it's going to take
a
> rather large amount of work.
> 
> If you still want to run the backups as full services, OperServ's SET
> READONLY OFF  may work.
> 
> I would like to know how you've set up the backups... are they using
> different nicks?
> 
> -- Quension
> 
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From atcarr at hotmail.com  Sun Nov  7 19:48:38 1999
From: atcarr at hotmail.com (atcarr)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Re: backups
References: <199911071921.VAA09087@Ender.gp.school.za>
Message-ID: 19991108034849.66064.qmail@hotmail.com

This is already hard coded into the DreamForge 4.x servers.  You can edit
the messages if you want in the src directory in the file users.c I think.

Phantom
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris <chriswh@cyberhighway.net>
To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Re: backups


> I know this is not what you guys are looking for, but so you don't get a
> huge mess, you could try making something like DALnet's (or use to be).
> When main services go down, instead of worrying about making all this have
> to match(which could be a real pain) make a services link that would say
> that services are temporarily down and other nice stuff. This may be coded
> directly into the dalnet IRCD, as I think it is, because server's with no
> links whatsoever have this message. I don't know, just throwing in my
> worthless comments =)
>
> -Chris
>
> ----------
> > From: quension@softhome.net
> > To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> > Subject: [IRCServices] Re: backups
> > Date: Saturday, November 06, 1999 4:05 PM
> >
> > zshack wrote:
> >
> > > It says something in the readme that it can be done. I have 2 sets of
> > > services linked, but when the primary fails the secondary set stays in
> > > read only. I was under the impression that the second set would "take
> > > over" unless there is a certain command i can give it to start when
the
> > > primary fails.
> >
> > The secondary set would have to stay in read-only unless you are able to
> > easily sync the dbs in the opposite direction (from backup to primary)
as
> > well.  And if the backup and primary services are on separate sections
of
> > the network, a network split would cause a nice mess of confusion as
> users
> > change things on the backup services that are not echoed to the primary.
> >
> > I've done some thinking recently as to what a really good backup system
> > would look like, and have come to the conclusion that it's going to take
> a
> > rather large amount of work.
> >
> > If you still want to run the backups as full services, OperServ's SET
> > READONLY OFF  may work.
> >
> > I would like to know how you've set up the backups... are they using
> > different nicks?
> >
> > -- Quension
> >
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From jpinto9 at visteon.com  Mon Nov  8 00:34:41 1999
From: jpinto9 at visteon.com (Pinto, Joao Luis (J.))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] backups
Message-ID: 199911080834.DAA01475@mailfw2.ford.com

Hi,
I have some questions, do you intend to have a backup services using the
same .dbs that were used by master services ???
I don't see no advantage on having a backup services on the same machine you
are running the master services.
The ideal solution would be to have a "periodic backup system" from the main
services to the backup, backup system would have a BOT to check if services
were running, if services were down the backup system would start
automatically. 
The major problem of this system is the "backup" since accurate .dbs means
heavy uploads.
A nicer way, would be to implement a backup channel on services, using a
TCP/IP connection to a backup server, this way all changes would be
transfered on real-time, and the backup server would know when services went
down when the connection goes down.
These are some theories :)
however I do have a automatically ftp backup system on cron, with daily
backups, the backup Services ate started manually until I have some time to
code the Rescue BOT :)
In my system, returning to master services, would be a human process.

João Luís Marques Pinto
PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
http://www.PTlink.net  



-----Original Message-----
From: zshack [<A  HREF="mailto:zshack@alliancelink.com">mailto:zshack@alliancelink.com</A>]
Sent: sábado, 6 de novembro de 1999 16:26
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: [IRCServices] backups


How do i run 2 sets of services so that the secondary set will take over
for the primary ones if they go down?




www.bunker7.net
irc.bunker7.net

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From kieran_spain at eol.ieaust.org.au  Mon Nov  8 03:10:58 1999
From: kieran_spain at eol.ieaust.org.au (Kieran Spain)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] backups
In-Reply-To: <199911080834.DAA01475@mailfw2.ford.com>
References: <199911080834.DAA01475@mailfw2.ford.com>
Message-ID: fc.000f54ac0020e3703b9aca00bb9da4bf.20e371@eol.ieaust.org.au

ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org writes:
>

Sounds rather like an NT network to me... the PDC and BDC transferring
user information all the time... not that this has ANYTHING to do with the
topic...

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From mgoller at chello.at  Mon Nov  8 07:36:27 1999
From: mgoller at chello.at (Marcus Goller)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] removing registered channel causes panic
Message-ID: 79FE62D1010BD311BD820000F8774DA50D8147@surfon.telekabel.at

Hi,

I'm new to this list, but according to the irc services HP this is the right
place. :)

I compiled and installed ircservices 4.3.3 with the dalnet server df467 and
df467.sf2 on Solaris 7 (sparc).

When I try to remove a registered channel, or the channel expire routine
kicks in, I get following error message:

[Nov 08 16:22:43.677865 1999] debug: Received: :iMax PRIVMSG operserv
:update
[Nov 08 16:22:43.678142 1999] debug: finduser(ffbefbf0)
[Nov 08 16:22:43.678420 1999] debug: finduser(iMax) -> 7b120
[Nov 08 16:22:43.678721 1999] debug: finduser(ffbefbf0)
[Nov 08 16:22:43.678991 1999] debug: finduser(iMax) -> 7b120
[Nov 08 16:22:43.679286 1999] debug: finduser(ffbefbf0)
[Nov 08 16:22:43.679557 1999] debug: finduser(iMax) -> 7b120
[Nov 08 16:22:43.679852 1999] OperServ: iMax: update
[Nov 08 16:22:43.680332 1999] debug: flush_write_buffer wanted 44, got 44
[Nov 08 16:22:43.680643 1999] debug: buffered_write(0,ffbe9e54,44) returning
44
[Nov 08 16:22:43.680981 1999] debug: Sent: :OperServ NOTICE iMax :Updating
datab
ases.
[Nov 08 16:22:43.681290 1999] debug: Top of main loop
[Nov 08 16:22:43.681527 1999] debug: Running expire routines
[Nov 08 16:22:43.681784 1999] debug: firstuser() returning iMax
[Nov 08 16:22:43.682041 1999] debug: NickServ: updating last seen time for
iMax
[Nov 08 16:22:43.682343 1999] debug: nextuser() returning NULL (end of list)
[Nov 08 16:22:43.682623 1999] Expiring channel #prime
[Nov 08 16:22:43.682883 1999] debug: findchan(7b678)
[Nov 08 16:22:43.683161 1999] debug: findchan(#prime) -> 0
[Nov 08 16:22:43.683750 1999] debug: flush_write_buffer wanted 68, got 68
[Nov 08 16:22:43.684089 1999] debug: buffered_write(0,ffbeae0c,68) returning
68
[Nov 08 16:22:43.684434 1999] debug: Sent: :services.chello.com GLOBOPS
:PANIC!
expiring channels (Bus Error)
[Nov 08 16:22:43.684743 1999] PANIC! expiring channels (Bus Error)
[Nov 08 16:22:43.685106 1999] Services terminating: Bus Error
[Nov 08 16:22:43.685411 1999] debug: flush_write_buffer wanted 81, got 81
[Nov 08 16:22:43.685723 1999] debug: buffered_write(0,ffbeb7a1,81) returning
81
[Nov 08 16:22:43.686067 1999] debug: Sent: :services.chello.com SQUIT
services.c
hello.com :Services terminating: Bus Error

I have tried this with two channels. Accessing the channels works fine, so I
suppose the db entries should be ok.

Any help would be appreciated.

thanks

Marcus

PS: had the same problem with the 4.3pre0 before and hoped upgrading to
4.3.3 would help... :) 
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From dooley at risanet.com  Mon Nov  8 18:32:53 1999
From: dooley at risanet.com (Dooley)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Database Question
Message-ID: 001f01bf2a5a$bca1b240$3b0960d1@risanet.com

I am working on a few utilities for services, but I am running into a
problem with the NickServ Database. Can someone give me a clue as to the
field breakdown. For example I can pull the file version without fail and
bring up the first nick and password but once I start getting into the other
fields information is not where I anticipate it to be. The ultimate plan for
this is for a user to be able to go to a webpage and enter their nick and
have their password mailed to them.

If anyone can give me a hand I would be most appreciative.

Dooley, IRC Administrator irc.risanet.com
http://www.risanet.com


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From jpinto9 at visteon.com  Tue Nov  9 00:07:44 1999
From: jpinto9 at visteon.com (Pinto, Joao Luis (J.))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Database Question
Message-ID: 199911090807.DAA14571@mailfw1.ford.com

In mpinion, the better way to work with the services .db is to do it like
services do, just load the .dbsto memory using the database loading
functions from services, work the data in memory, and if needed write the
full changed database using the services saving functions.
My network staff is also working on some utilities to export services
information to the WEB =)

João Luís Marques Pinto
PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
http://www.PTlink.net  




-----Original Message-----
From: Dooley [<A  HREF="mailto:dooley@risanet.com">mailto:dooley@risanet.com</A>]
Sent: terça-feira, 9 de novembro de 1999 2:33
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: [IRCServices] Database Question


I am working on a few utilities for services, but I am running into a
problem with the NickServ Database. Can someone give me a clue as to the
field breakdown. For example I can pull the file version without fail and
bring up the first nick and password but once I start getting into the other
fields information is not where I anticipate it to be. The ultimate plan for
this is for a user to be able to go to a webpage and enter their nick and
have their password mailed to them.

If anyone can give me a hand I would be most appreciative.

Dooley, IRC Administrator irc.risanet.com
<A  HREF="http://www.risanet.com">http://www.risanet.com</A>


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From scrm at scandal.org  Tue Nov  9 04:26:10 1999
From: scrm at scandal.org (Mehran Khalili)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Database Question
References: <199911090807.DAA14571@mailfw1.ford.com>
Message-ID: 000d01bf2aad$a27a5c20$eccc07c2@xilo

Please keep me informed of your progress with the web-utils for services.

Are there any other utilities out there that are similar? I was looking for
a web-based nick registration script.

cheers

Mehran

[scrm] - www.scandal.org

----- Original Message -----
From: Pinto, Joao Luis (J.) <jpinto9@visteon.com>
To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 8:07 AM
Subject: RE: [IRCServices] Database Question


> In mpinion, the better way to work with the services .db is to do it like
> services do, just load the .dbsto memory using the database loading
> functions from services, work the data in memory, and if needed write the
> full changed database using the services saving functions.
> My network staff is also working on some utilities to export services
> information to the WEB =)
>
> João Luís Marques Pinto
> PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
> http://www.PTlink.net
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dooley [<A  HREF="mailto:dooley@risanet.com">mailto:dooley@risanet.com</A>]
> Sent: terça-feira, 9 de novembro de 1999 2:33
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: [IRCServices] Database Question
>
>
> I am working on a few utilities for services, but I am running into a
> problem with the NickServ Database. Can someone give me a clue as to the
> field breakdown. For example I can pull the file version without fail and
> bring up the first nick and password but once I start getting into the
other
> fields information is not where I anticipate it to be. The ultimate plan
for
> this is for a user to be able to go to a webpage and enter their nick and
> have their password mailed to them.
>
> If anyone can give me a hand I would be most appreciative.
>
> Dooley, IRC Administrator irc.risanet.com
> <A  HREF="http://www.risanet.com">http://www.risanet.com</A>
>
>
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From rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br  Tue Nov  9 10:25:25 1999
From: rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br (Rafael Ritter)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Database Question
In-Reply-To: <000d01bf2aad$a27a5c20$eccc07c2@xilo>
References: <199911090807.DAA14571@mailfw1.ford.com>
Message-ID: 3.0.6.32.19991109162525.007d4880@kapa.procergs.com.br

Yes, me too :)

Rafael Ritter

At 12:26 09/11/99 -0000, you wrote:
>Please keep me informed of your progress with the web-utils for services.
>
>Are there any other utilities out there that are similar? I was looking for
>a web-based nick registration script.
>
>cheers
>
>Mehran
>
>[scrm] - www.scandal.org
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Pinto, Joao Luis (J.) <jpinto9@visteon.com>
>To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 8:07 AM
>Subject: RE: [IRCServices] Database Question
>
>
>> In mpinion, the better way to work with the services .db is to do it like
>> services do, just load the .dbsto memory using the database loading
>> functions from services, work the data in memory, and if needed write the
>> full changed database using the services saving functions.
>> My network staff is also working on some utilities to export services
>> information to the WEB =)
>>
>> João Luís Marques Pinto
>> PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
>> http://www.PTlink.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dooley [<A  HREF="mailto:dooley@risanet.com">mailto:dooley@risanet.com</A>]
>> Sent: terça-feira, 9 de novembro de 1999 2:33
>> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
>> Subject: [IRCServices] Database Question
>>
>>
>> I am working on a few utilities for services, but I am running into a
>> problem with the NickServ Database. Can someone give me a clue as to the
>> field breakdown. For example I can pull the file version without fail and
>> bring up the first nick and password but once I start getting into the
>other
>> fields information is not where I anticipate it to be. The ultimate plan
>for
>> this is for a user to be able to go to a webpage and enter their nick and
>> have their password mailed to them.
>>
>> If anyone can give me a hand I would be most appreciative.
>>
>> Dooley, IRC Administrator irc.risanet.com
>> <A  HREF="http://www.risanet.com">http://www.risanet.com</A>
>>
>>
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From mike at icon.co.za  Tue Nov  9 10:45:38 1999
From: mike at icon.co.za (Michael Smith)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Database Question
Message-ID: 2.2.32.19991109184538.00c35bf8@shell.icon.co.za

Hmm, as far as I know the services files are flat binary files with variable
length fields, however, the positions are fixed, ie password will always be
after nick etc.... 

All "fields" are terminated with /0

I am working on a way of letting services use mysql or a similar database to
keep the info on. This will
enable revision control, rollback, and allow a central services database to
be used for multiple (backup copies) of services, in addition, because it is
now in database form, web utilities etc are now a very easy reality.

Mike


At 04:25 PM 09/11/99 -0200, you wrote:
>Yes, me too :)
>
>Rafael Ritter
>
>At 12:26 09/11/99 -0000, you wrote:
>>Please keep me informed of your progress with the web-utils for services.
>>
>>Are there any other utilities out there that are similar? I was looking for
>>a web-based nick registration script.
>>
>>cheers
>>
>>Mehran
>>
>>[scrm] - www.scandal.org
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Pinto, Joao Luis (J.) <jpinto9@visteon.com>
>>To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
>>Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 8:07 AM
>>Subject: RE: [IRCServices] Database Question
>>
>>
>>> In mpinion, the better way to work with the services .db is to do it like
>>> services do, just load the .dbsto memory using the database loading
>>> functions from services, work the data in memory, and if needed write the
>>> full changed database using the services saving functions.
>>> My network staff is also working on some utilities to export services
>>> information to the WEB =)
>>>
>>> João Luís Marques Pinto
>>> PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
>>> http://www.PTlink.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Dooley [<A  HREF="mailto:dooley@risanet.com">mailto:dooley@risanet.com</A>]
>>> Sent: terça-feira, 9 de novembro de 1999 2:33
>>> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
>>> Subject: [IRCServices] Database Question
>>>
>>>
>>> I am working on a few utilities for services, but I am running into a
>>> problem with the NickServ Database. Can someone give me a clue as to the
>>> field breakdown. For example I can pull the file version without fail and
>>> bring up the first nick and password but once I start getting into the
>>other
>>> fields information is not where I anticipate it to be. The ultimate plan
>>for
>>> this is for a user to be able to go to a webpage and enter their nick and
>>> have their password mailed to them.
>>>
>>> If anyone can give me a hand I would be most appreciative.
>>>
>>> Dooley, IRC Administrator irc.risanet.com
>>> <A  HREF="http://www.risanet.com">http://www.risanet.com</A>
>>>
>>>
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From rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br  Tue Nov  9 10:58:46 1999
From: rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br (Rafael Ritter)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Services 4.3.3
In-Reply-To: <000d01bf2aad$a27a5c20$eccc07c2@xilo>
References: <199911090807.DAA14571@mailfw1.ford.com>
Message-ID: 3.0.6.32.19991109165846.00b51590@kapa.procergs.com.br

  PID USER     PRI  NI  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT  LIB %CPU %MEM   TIME COMMAND
17792 ircadmin  10   0  7764 7764   392 R       0 64.3 12.4  15:39 services
  153 ircadmin   5   0 11620  11M   476 S       0 22.4 18.3  1231m ircd

Someone here uses Services 4.3.3 with Unreal ircd and the CPU consumption
stay like the above? The processes work fine, but with this detail. Is this
normal?

Rafael Ritter
Equipe VIA RS

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From scotts at flamebait.org  Wed Nov 10 04:40:56 1999
From: scotts at flamebait.org (Scott Seufert)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Unreal
Message-ID: 19991110124116233.AAA267@stream.qx.net@[208.200.111.17]



----------
>From: "Josh Odom" <joshodom@uswest.net>
>To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
>Subject: RE: [IRCServices] Unreal
>Date: Sun, Dec 5, 1999, 9:35 AM
>

> If you wanted to ban the IP address, you would ban 200.248.24.5.*.

actually this ban would only cover one IP (200.248.24.5) there is no need
for the * at the end. IP's only have 4 quads

200.248.24.* would ban the whole Class C (256 possible IP's)
200.248.* would ban the whole class B (65,536 possible IP's)
200.* would ban the whole class A (16,777,216 possible IP'S)

On Channels the entire nick!user@host.domain.com hostmask is used. akills
(at least every daemon I've seen) omits the nick field leaving
user@host.domain.com as the hostmask format.

> If that is the problem you are seeing.

<snip>

>       bomb
>
> ChatCafe IRC Network
> URL: http://www.chatcafe.net
> IRC Server : irc.chatcafe.net
>

kat
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From jpinto9 at visteon.com  Wed Nov 10 06:24:19 1999
From: jpinto9 at visteon.com (Pinto, Joao Luis (J.))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Unreal
Message-ID: 199911101424.JAA27597@mailfw1.ford.com

just one question ??
Is this a IRC services related mailing list ? or HOWTO kick and ban on my
ircd

Regards,
João Luís Marques Pinto
PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
http://www.PTlink.net  



-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Seufert [<A  HREF="mailto:scotts@flamebait.org">mailto:scotts@flamebait.org</A>]
Sent: quarta-feira, 10 de novembro de 1999 12:41
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Unreal




----------
>From: "Josh Odom" <joshodom@uswest.net>
>To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
>Subject: RE: [IRCServices] Unreal
>Date: Sun, Dec 5, 1999, 9:35 AM
>

> If you wanted to ban the IP address, you would ban 200.248.24.5.*.

actually this ban would only cover one IP (200.248.24.5) there is no need
for the * at the end. IP's only have 4 quads

200.248.24.* would ban the whole Class C (256 possible IP's)
200.248.* would ban the whole class B (65,536 possible IP's)
200.* would ban the whole class A (16,777,216 possible IP'S)

On Channels the entire nick!user@host.domain.com hostmask is used. akills
(at least every daemon I've seen) omits the nick field leaving
user@host.domain.com as the hostmask format.

> If that is the problem you are seeing.

<snip>

>       bomb
>
> ChatCafe IRC Network
> URL: <A  HREF="http://www.chatcafe.net">http://www.chatcafe.net</A>
> IRC Server : irc.chatcafe.net
>

kat
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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Wed Nov 10 07:07:02 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] IRC Services Mailing List Introduction (for your refreshment) :)
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.3.96.991110165941.6916B&#45;100000@shell.icon.co.za

Please take the time to read over the IRC Services ML introduction
(featured at the bottom of this mail). It details important information
regarding the acceptable use of the IRC Services ML.

The reason for this? The fact that a few people either don't know or have
forgotten what this ML is really for. I'm not pointing fingers, but I
have responsibility to keep this ML dedicated to its main topics of
discussion - some people don't have the time to read unrelated mails.

If anyone thinks something should be added to the blurb below, please let
me know!

Oh, if you forget this for some reason and want to read it again, send a
mail to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org with the following in the body of
the email:

        intro ircservices


Regards, Andrew


******** List Description ********

This list is for the discussion of IRC Services, development
and support thereof. Please read on for a few tips regarding
list use and the policies of this list - they _will_ be 
enforced.

Typical topics of discussion include: 
        - Support for original versions of IRC Services.
        - Bug reports for the most current original version
          of IRC Services.
        - Suggestions for future versions.

What this list does *not* and will *not* carry:
        - Support for IRC servers/daemons (a.k.a. ircd's)
        - HOWTO-program-in-C discussions
        - HOWTO-modify-the-ircd discussions
        - Support for modified versions of IRC Services.
        - Support for IRC clients.

It is important that the list be kept free of spam and issues
not relating to IRC Services. A few examples of what spam is
considered to be are:
        - Personal arguements and flaming.
        - Jokes, Get-Rich-Quick and other such spam.
        - Advertising

Please also bear in mind that long threads can be very
irritating and very hard to read. If a thread becomes long,
please delete the latter 70% of it, or atleast those parts 
that do not pertain to your reply.

Addresses from which mail bounces for more than a week will be
removed from the mailing list. Please keep your address(es) up
to date by unsubscribing old ones before they become invalid.

Finally, thank you for taking the time to become a member of
this mailing list and for supporting IRC Services.

********

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From rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br  Wed Nov 10 09:48:45 1999
From: rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br (Rafael Ritter)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] db´s
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.96.991110165941.6916B-100000@shell.icon.co.za>
References: Pine.GSO.3.96.991110165941.6916B&#45;100000@shell.icon.co.za
Message-ID: 3.0.6.32.19991110154845.00a80740@kapa.procergs.com.br

Someone can tell me what is the format of the services .db´s?
it´s dbm, it´s a proprietary format? Or something else?

tanx

Rafael Ritter

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From mike at icon.co.za  Wed Nov 10 10:27:16 1999
From: mike at icon.co.za (Michael Smith)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Re: [IRCServices] db´s
Message-ID: 2.2.32.19991110182716.00cfc1b8@shell.icon.co.za

binary file, each "field" terminated with \0,

Mike

At 03:48 PM 10/11/99 -0200, you wrote:
>Someone can tell me what is the format of the services .db´s?
>it´s dbm, it´s a proprietary format? Or something else?
>
>tanx
>
>Rafael Ritter
>
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From natey at aquarius.natey.za.net  Wed Nov 10 03:35:28 1999
From: natey at aquarius.natey.za.net (Natey on IRC)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Copyright Violations
Message-ID: Pine.BSF.4.10.9911101321080.5473&#45;100000@aquarius.natey.za.net

Hi there Andy and Andrew,

I've just been taking a look at "Rush Services" which someone from Israel
DCC send'ed to me:

messages.c

from within:

static void m_motd(char *source, int ac, char **av)

--- start snip ---

    send_cmd(ServerName, "372 %s :-", source);
    send_cmd(ServerName, "372 %s :- Rush Services is copyright (c) "
                "1999 Extreme Rush & Wired Rave Software.", source);
    send_cmd(ServerName, "376 %s :End of /MOTD command.", source);

--- end snip ---

Very few changes have been made execpt for adding:

 * Customized by Extreme Rush. - (c) 1999 Sirius
 * Additional work by Wired Rave Software.  http://www.wiredrave.com/
 * This program is free but copyrighted software; see the file COPYING for
 * details.
 */

Its working off the ver 4.2 and has added some code from later vers 4.3.x
of EsperNet IRC Network Services.

--- From the README file ---

Rush Services 5.0

 .. ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
:
:  Rush Serivces 5.0x is copyright (c) 1999 Extreme Rush and Wired Rave
:  Software. There is absolutely NO WARRANTY provided with this program;
:  if it blows up in your face, you get to clean up the mess.  Services
:  may be freely redistributed; see the GNU General Public License  (in 
:  the file "COPYING") for details.
:
:  You can find updates of services at services.wiredrave.com. The rush
:  IRCD can always be found at, <A  HREF="http://extremerush.dhs.org/">http://extremerush.dhs.org/</A>.
 .. ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

Then only do they include the usual README file.

I think a extra file must/should be added about this type of thing
stating:

 * You have the following rights:
   * To modify your copy of the source.
   * Release your own patches for the software.

etc.

 * You may not do any of the following:
   * Redistribute this software as being your own work,
     as it is the work of Andy Church, and many others,
     who have volunteered to it.
   * Sell this software.

Just my R 0.02 worth :)  Please boycott the usage of rush services until
the services copyright stuff is put back into place (this starts to remind
me of what happened with Magick).

Regards
Natey

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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Wed Nov 10 23:22:35 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Copyright Violations
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9911101321080.5473-100000@aquarius.natey.za.net>
References: Pine.BSF.4.10.9911101321080.5473&#45;100000@aquarius.natey.za.net
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.3.96.991111091830.13978C&#45;100000@shell.icon.co.za

I've downloaded the source from their FTP site, and they've left 99% of
all copyrights in place -  apart from adding a few lines. I agree they
could have said a bit more about who originally coded services, but it's
no where near as bad as Magick. They haven't even gone to the trouble of
changing the email address for bug reports - this annoys me. Andy (and
myself) are sick and tired of having to support all these people who run
modified versions of Services.

On top of this, the dude who is coding these services doesn't seem to have
a clue about what he's breaking while he tries to add stuff. I'd stear
very clear of this branch.

Andrew

On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Natey on IRC wrote:

> Hi there Andy and Andrew,
> 
> I've just been taking a look at "Rush Services" which someone from Israel
> DCC send'ed to me:
> 
> messages.c
> 
> from within:
> 
[snip]

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From jpinto9 at visteon.com  Thu Nov 11 00:24:28 1999
From: jpinto9 at visteon.com (Pinto, Joao Luis (J.))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Copyright Violations
Message-ID: 199911110824.DAA08498@mailfw3.ford.com

Hi,
I don't agreed with you, "could have said a bit more about who originally
coded services", according to GNU, one should preserve the CopyRight notices
however it seems to me that the coptyrigth contents are responsabilty of the
original author, if he/she made CopyRight clear there makes no sense someone
who starts a modified version to extend the original CopyRigth.
I am coding PTlink Services, I sarted changing Andy Services 2.4.4, some
months ago, I kept all (C)opyrigth notices as based on Andy Services,
however if I continue changing most of the original code (nor just adding a
few line), some notices may disappear from somefiles, every CopyRigth notice
is applied to a specific code file, If I change that file let's say 80%, I
will propably change it to my CopyRight. 

Just some ideas :)

João Luís Marques Pinto
PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
http://www.PTlink.net  


-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Kempe [<A  HREF="mailto:andrewk@icon.co.za">mailto:andrewk@icon.co.za</A>]
Sent: quinta-feira, 11 de novembro de 1999 7:23
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Copyright Violations


I've downloaded the source from their FTP site, and they've left 99% of
all copyrights in place -  apart from adding a few lines. I agree they
could have said a bit more about who originally coded services, but it's
no where near as bad as Magick. They haven't even gone to the trouble of
changing the email address for bug reports - this annoys me. Andy (and
myself) are sick and tired of having to support all these people who run
modified versions of Services.

On top of this, the dude who is coding these services doesn't seem to have
a clue about what he's breaking while he tries to add stuff. I'd stear
very clear of this branch.

Andrew

On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Natey on IRC wrote:

> Hi there Andy and Andrew,
> 
> I've just been taking a look at "Rush Services" which someone from Israel
> DCC send'ed to me:
> 
> messages.c
> 
> from within:
> 
[snip]

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From climber at rionet.com.br  Thu Nov 11 10:38:56 1999
From: climber at rionet.com.br (root of all evil)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Copyright Violations
References: <199911110824.DAA08498@mailfw3.ford.com>
Message-ID: 99111114441500.00615@rcmoraes.intranet


Unfortunately here in Brazil some bad coders do the same, in services and ircd
copyrights, 

ùíù - Services para uso somente na Rede IRChat (1999).
ùíù - Desenvolvido por Rodrigo C. Broilo (broilo@brasilnet.net).

This is  the /motd command from services  chat-broilo+morsa:: 1.2.7, that
irchat  Networks uses (irc.irchat.com.br, irc.lexxa.com.br) 

sory about my english 
FiGhTeR
irc.rionet.com.br ( i dont changend the services cooder name here:))
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From lebleu at prefer.net  Thu Nov 11 08:58:21 1999
From: lebleu at prefer.net (Kevin)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Copyright Violations
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9911101321080.5473-100000@aquarius.natey.za.net>
References: Pine.BSF.4.10.9911101321080.5473&#45;100000@aquarius.natey.za.net
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.00.9911111048540.27055&#45;100000@hades.bleu.paganpaths.org


On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Natey on IRC wrote:

> I think a extra file must/should be added about this type of thing
> stating:

See the file COPYING, which covers all their rights.

>    * Sell this software.

They have the right to sell the software, as long as they provide
information on where to get the source or include the source with it.  One
would have to be rather foolish to pay for it unless they added extra
value (e.g. tech support), but they can still sell it.
:)  (Just like Redhat can sell linux, even tho most of what it sells is
GPLed)

--Kevin

P.S. IANAL

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From climber at rionet.com.br  Thu Nov 11 10:47:30 1999
From: climber at rionet.com.br (root of all evil)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Some help on cooding
References: <199911110824.DAA08498@mailfw3.ford.com>
Message-ID: 99111115022701.00615@rcmoraes.intranet

Hi guys

 i dontknow if this is oftopyc, but the nickserv release and ghost seems a
quiteanoying to me, you have to use 3 comands to getyour nick back
/m nickserv release (nick) (pass)
/nick nick
/mnickserv identify (pass)

so, i tried todo things easyerwhitthis code :
static void do_release(User *u)
{
    char *nick = strtok(NULL, " ");
    char *pass = strtok(NULL, " ");    
    NickInfo *ni;
    

    if (!nick) {
        syntax_error(s_NickServ, u, "RELEASE", NICK_RELEASE_SYNTAX);
    } else if (!(ni = findnick(nick))) {
        notice_lang(s_NickServ, u, NICK_X_NOT_REGISTERED, nick);
    } else if (!(ni->status & NS_KILL_HELD)) {
        notice_lang(s_NickServ, u, NICK_RELEASE_NOT_HELD, nick);
    } else if (pass) {
        int res = check_password(pass, ni->pass);
        if (res == 1) {   
            release(ni, 0);
            notice_lang(s_NickServ, u, NICK_RELEASED);
            send_cmd(s_NickServ, "SVSNICK %s %s :%lu", u->nick, nick,
                time(NULL));
            change_user_nick(u, nick); /* placede on Extern.h this function is
                                                        * from users.c */
            /* indentify */
            ni->status |= NS_IDENTIFIED;
            ni->id_timestamp = u->signon;
            ni->last_seen = time(NULL);
            if (ni->last_usermask)
              free(ni->last_usermask);
            ni->last_usermask = smalloc(strlen(u->username)+strlen(u->host)+2);
            sprintf(ni->last_usermask, "%s@%s", u->username, u->host);
            if (ni->last_realname)
                free(ni->last_realname);
            ni->last_realname = sstrdup(u->realname);       
            send_cmd(s_NickServ,"SVSMODE %s :+r", u->nick);
            u->mode |= UMODE_R;            
            notice(s_NickServ, nick, "Password accepted - you are now recognized");
        log("%s: %s!%s@%s identified on RELEASE for nick %s", s_NickServ, u->nick, u->username, u->host, nick);
        check_memos(u);
             } else {
             notice_lang(s_NickServ, u, ACCESS_DENIED);               
            if (res == 0) {
                log("%s: RELEASE: invalid password for %s by %s!%s@%s",
                        s_NickServ, nick, u->nick, u->username, u->host);
                bad_password(u);
            }
        }
    } 
}

/*end*/

Well, the problem is : this orks well on my testnet, (only onde ircd and
services ) on main network,  the SVSNICK may take a litle  time, so the SVSMODE
and the notice dont ket sent to the righ user (ircd returns User not found),
but the new nick is identifyed , only the +r flag and notice to user dont works)

Anyone knows a beter way to do this ? 
      
Realy sory for my english, and a keyboard whith broken space bar ( no joke :))
FiGhTER
Irc.rionet.com.br
BrasIRC.com.br (irc.brasirc.com.br)
 
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From jpinto9 at visteon.com  Fri Nov 12 00:08:56 1999
From: jpinto9 at visteon.com (Pinto, Joao Luis (J.))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Some help on cooding
Message-ID: 199911120814.DAA14562@mailfw3.ford.com

One of the firts things I changed from Church Services was to make the
identify and nick change on Ghost command, I have been using this for 6
months with a 7 ircd network and I had no problems with it.
Notice that this function will replace release, since it will call
ghost_release when needed.

*Log2() - is a file/channel log function, you can replace it with the the
log() function
/*************************************************************************/

static void do_ghost(User *u)
{
    char *nick = strtok(NULL, " ");
    char *pass = strtok(NULL, " ");
    NickInfo *ni;
    User *u2;

    if (!nick) {
        syntax_error(s_NickServ, u, "GHOST", NICK_GHOST_SYNTAX);
    } else if (!(u2 = finduser(nick))) {
        if ((ni = findnick(nick)) && (ni->status & NS_KILL_HELD))
do_ghost_release(u, ni, nick, pass);
            else notice_lang(s_NickServ, u, NICK_X_NOT_IN_USE, nick);
    } else if (!(ni = u2->real_ni)) {
        notice_lang(s_NickServ, u, NICK_X_NOT_REGISTERED, nick);
    } else if (stricmp(nick, u->nick) == 0) {
        notice_lang(s_NickServ, u, NICK_NO_GHOST_SELF);
    } else if (pass) {
        int res = check_password(pass, ni->pass);
        if (res == 1) {
            char buf[NICKMAX+32];
            snprintf(buf, sizeof(buf), "GHOST command used by %s", u->nick);
            kill_user(s_NickServ, nick, buf);
            notice_lang(s_NickServ, u, NICK_GHOST_KILLED, nick);
            ni->status |= (NS_IDENTIFIED | NS_RECOGNIZED);         
            ni->id_timestamp = u->signon;
            ni->last_seen = time(NULL);
            if (ni->last_usermask)
              free(ni->last_usermask);
            ni->last_usermask =
smalloc(strlen(u->username)+strlen(u->host)+2);
            sprintf(ni->last_usermask, "%s@%s", u->username, u->host);
            if (ni->last_realname)
                free(ni->last_realname);
            ni->last_realname = sstrdup(u->realname);
            log2("%s: %s!%s@%s identified on ghost for nick %s", s_NickServ,
                        u->nick, u->username, u->host, nick);
            send_cmd(MODE_SENDER(s_NickServ), "SVSNICK %s %s %ld", 
                u->nick,nick,time(NULL));
            send_cmd(MODE_SENDER(s_NickServ), "SVS2MODE %s +r", 
                nick);  
                /* PTlink Services only
            if ((ni->flags & NI_AUTO_JOIN) && (ni->ajoincount>0))

                autojoin(u,ni); /* should ajoin on ghost - noticed by
Bubinhas */
                */ -------------------
            check_memos(u);
        } else {
            notice_lang(s_NickServ, u, ACCESS_DENIED);
            if (res == 0) {
                log2("%s: GHOST: invalid password for %s by %s!%s@%s",
                        s_NickServ, nick, u->nick, u->username, u->host);
                bad_password(u);
            }
        }
    } else {
        if (!(ni->flags & NI_SECURE) && is_on_access(u, ni)) {
            char buf[NICKMAX+32];
            snprintf(buf, sizeof(buf), "GHOST command used by %s", u->nick);
            kill_user(s_NickServ, nick, buf);
            notice_lang(s_NickServ, u, NICK_GHOST_KILLED, nick);
            ni->status |= (NS_IDENTIFIED | NS_RECOGNIZED);         
            ni->id_timestamp = u->signon;
            ni->last_seen = time(NULL);
            if (ni->last_usermask)
              free(ni->last_usermask);
            ni->last_usermask =
smalloc(strlen(u->username)+strlen(u->host)+2);
            sprintf(ni->last_usermask, "%s@%s", u->username, u->host);
            if (ni->last_realname)
                free(ni->last_realname);
            ni->last_realname = sstrdup(u->realname);
            log2("%s: %s!%s@%s identified on ghost for nick %s", s_NickServ,
                        u->nick, u->username, u->host, u->nick);
            send_cmd(MODE_SENDER(s_NickServ), "SVSNICK %s %s %ld", 
                u->nick,nick,time(NULL));
            send_cmd(MODE_SENDER(s_NickServ), "SVS2MODE %s +r %s", 
                u->nick,nick);          
            if ((ni->status & NS_RECOGNIZED))
                  check_memos(u);
        } else {
            notice_lang(s_NickServ, u, ACCESS_DENIED);
        }
    }
}

/*************************************************************************/

/*************************************************************************/
static void do_ghost_release(User *u, NickInfo *ni,char* nick, char* pass) {
    int res;
    if (!pass) {
        syntax_error(s_NickServ, u, "GHOST", NICK_GHOST_SYNTAX);
        return;
    }
    res = check_password(pass, ni->pass);
    if (res == 1) {
            release(ni, 0);
            notice_lang(s_NickServ, u, NICK_RELEASED);
            ni->status |= (NS_IDENTIFIED | NS_RECOGNIZED);
            ni->id_timestamp = u->signon;
            ni->last_seen = time(NULL);
            if (ni->last_usermask)
              free(ni->last_usermask);
            ni->last_usermask =
smalloc(strlen(u->username)+strlen(u->host)+2);
            sprintf(ni->last_usermask, "%s@%s", u->username, u->host);
            if (ni->last_realname)
                free(ni->last_realname);
            ni->last_realname = sstrdup(u->realname);
            log2("%s: %s!%s@%s identified on release for nick %s",
s_NickServ,
                        u->nick, u->username, u->host, nick);
            send_cmd(MODE_SENDER(s_NickServ), "SVSNICK %s %s %ld", 
                u->nick,nick,time(NULL));
            send_cmd(MODE_SENDER(s_NickServ), "SVS2MODE %s +r", nick);

            if ((ni->flags & NI_AUTO_JOIN) && (ni->ajoincount>0)) 
                    autojoin(u,ni); /* should ajoin on ghost - reported by
Bubinhas */
            check_memos(u);         
            
        }
    else { log2("%s: GHOST RELEASE: invalid password for %s by %s!%s@%s",
                s_NickServ, nick, u->nick, u->username, u->host);
                bad_password(u);                
        }
}



João Luís Marques Pinto
PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
PTlink Coders - Coders@PTlink.net
http://www.PTlink.net  




-----Original Message-----
From: root of all evil [<A  HREF="mailto:climber@rionet.com.br">mailto:climber@rionet.com.br</A>]
Sent: quinta-feira, 11 de novembro de 1999 18:48
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: [IRCServices] Some help on cooding


Hi guys

 i dontknow if this is oftopyc, but the nickserv release and ghost seems a
quiteanoying to me, you have to use 3 comands to getyour nick back
/m nickserv release (nick) (pass)
/nick nick
/mnickserv identify (pass)

so, i tried todo things easyerwhitthis code :
static void do_release(User *u)
{
    char *nick = strtok(NULL, " ");
    char *pass = strtok(NULL, " ");    
    NickInfo *ni;
    

    if (!nick) {
        syntax_error(s_NickServ, u, "RELEASE", NICK_RELEASE_SYNTAX);
    } else if (!(ni = findnick(nick))) {
        notice_lang(s_NickServ, u, NICK_X_NOT_REGISTERED, nick);
    } else if (!(ni->status & NS_KILL_HELD)) {
        notice_lang(s_NickServ, u, NICK_RELEASE_NOT_HELD, nick);
    } else if (pass) {
        int res = check_password(pass, ni->pass);
        if (res == 1) {   
            release(ni, 0);
            notice_lang(s_NickServ, u, NICK_RELEASED);
            send_cmd(s_NickServ, "SVSNICK %s %s :%lu", u->nick, nick,
                time(NULL));
            change_user_nick(u, nick); /* placede on Extern.h this function
is
                                                        * from users.c */
            /* indentify */
            ni->status |= NS_IDENTIFIED;
            ni->id_timestamp = u->signon;
            ni->last_seen = time(NULL);
            if (ni->last_usermask)
              free(ni->last_usermask);
            ni->last_usermask =
smalloc(strlen(u->username)+strlen(u->host)+2);
            sprintf(ni->last_usermask, "%s@%s", u->username, u->host);
            if (ni->last_realname)
                free(ni->last_realname);
            ni->last_realname = sstrdup(u->realname);       
            send_cmd(s_NickServ,"SVSMODE %s :+r", u->nick);
            u->mode |= UMODE_R;            
            notice(s_NickServ, nick, "Password accepted - you are now
recognized");
        log("%s: %s!%s@%s identified on RELEASE for nick %s", s_NickServ,
u->nick, u->username, u->host, nick);
        check_memos(u);
             } else {
             notice_lang(s_NickServ, u, ACCESS_DENIED);               
            if (res == 0) {
                log("%s: RELEASE: invalid password for %s by %s!%s@%s",
                        s_NickServ, nick, u->nick, u->username, u->host);
                bad_password(u);
            }
        }
    } 
}

/*end*/

Well, the problem is : this orks well on my testnet, (only onde ircd and
services ) on main network,  the SVSNICK may take a litle  time, so the
SVSMODE
and the notice dont ket sent to the righ user (ircd returns User not found),
but the new nick is identifyed , only the +r flag and notice to user dont
works)

Anyone knows a beter way to do this ? 
      
Realy sory for my english, and a keyboard whith broken space bar ( no joke
:))
FiGhTER
Irc.rionet.com.br
BrasIRC.com.br (irc.brasirc.com.br)
 
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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Fri Nov 12 01:18:51 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Some help on cooding
In-Reply-To: <199911120814.DAA14562@mailfw3.ford.com>
References: 199911120814.DAA14562@mailfw3.ford.com
Message-ID: NCBBIPDDJGGDOCPMKPKPCEGGCPAA.andrewk@icon.co.za

Folks,

Please can everyone stop posting code snippets to this list. If you think
you have something that others may be interested in, please explain what it
does and get people to mail you privately, if they want to see it.

The code below will not work properly on any of the ircds that IRC Services
supports (the SVS2MODE does not exist in any of them).

Thanks, Andrew

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of Pinto, Joao
> Luis (J.)
> Sent: 12 November 1999 10:09
> To: 'ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org'
> Subject: RE: [IRCServices] Some help on cooding
>
>
> One of the firts things I changed from Church Services was to make the
> identify and nick change on Ghost command, I have been using this for 6
> months with a 7 ircd network and I had no problems with it.
> Notice that this function will replace release, since it will call
> ghost_release when needed.
>
> *Log2() - is a file/channel log function, you can replace it with the the
> log() function
> /*****************************************************************
> ********/
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From climber at rionet.com.br  Fri Nov 12 10:02:24 1999
From: climber at rionet.com.br (root of all evil)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Some help on cooding
References: <199911120814.DAA14562@mailfw3.ford.com>
Message-ID: 99111214120600.00613@rcmoraes.intranet

On Fri, 12 Nov 1999, you wrote:

Hy,

I have tried this  also but the problem is if user is on a laged server, the
SVSNICK  will have some delay, and note, you send the svsmode, or svs2mode just
after SVSNICK, so the User nick have not changed yet and ircd replyes a user
not found

i am having this dificult even whith your,s code (ptlink services) and whith
my one 
(it put the Flags  NS_IDENTIFIED on nick, everything esse works great, the only
thing that dont works is SVSMODE (note  the flags refer to u structure, not
u->nick))

Anyone have some ideas ? 

Thanks 
FiGhTeR
Rafael Moraes 
irc.brasirc.com.br



  







>One of the firts things I changed from Church Services was to make the
>identify and nick change on Ghost command, I have been using this for 6
>months with a 7 ircd network and I had no problems with it.
>Notice that this function will replace release, since it will call
>ghost_release when needed.
>
....
>
>João Luís Marques Pinto
>PTlink Tech - Lamego@PTlink.net
>PTlink Coders - Coders@PTlink.net
>http://www.PTlink.net  
>
>
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From bstu at camelot.ct.us.mystical.net  Fri Nov 12 12:38:27 1999
From: bstu at camelot.ct.us.mystical.net (BenG)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Re: Some help on cooding
Message-ID: 199911122038.PAA29601@outpost.mystical.net

>>
Folks,

Please can everyone stop posting code snippets to this list. If you think
you have something that others may be interested in, please explain what it
does and get people to mail you privately, if they want to see it.

The code below will not work properly on any of the ircds that IRC Services
supports (the SVS2MODE does not exist in any of them).

Thanks, Andrew
<<

Is there a chance that we might be able to set up some sort
of services coding list?  I think a lot of people would be
interested.

- bstu (Irchelper@mystical.net)
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From achurch at dragonfire.net  Sat Nov 13 12:09:14 1999
From: achurch at dragonfire.net (Andrew Church)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Some help on cooding
Message-ID: 382cd80d.00363@dragonfire.net

> i dontknow if this is oftopyc, but the nickserv release and ghost seems a
>quiteanoying to me, you have to use 3 comands to getyour nick back
>/m nickserv release (nick) (pass)
>/nick nick
>/mnickserv identify (pass)

     Aside from the fact that it doesn't work with supported servers, as
Andrew Kempe mentioned, this makes it impossible to _not_ change your nick
when you use RELEASE.  Granted, there probably aren't many cases where you
wouldn't want to, but if it's really such a pain to type "/nick nick",
write an alias in your client, don't try to do it in Services.  (I do agree
that using a password with RELEASE should identify you for that nick.)

  --Andrew Church
    achurch@dragonfire.net
    http://achurch.dragonfire.net/
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From jpinto9 at visteon.com  Mon Nov 15 01:45:35 1999
From: jpinto9 at visteon.com (Pinto, Joao Luis (J.))
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Some help on cooding
Message-ID: 199911150945.EAA24780@mailfw1.ford.com

Does not work with supported servers ???
I thaugth services were supporting +r mode change and nick protection with
change to GuestXXXX, 
If I am not wrong to be able to do this you need SVSMODE and SVSNICK.
........
>I have tried this  also but the problem is if user is on a laged server,
the
>SVSNICK  will have some delay, and note, you send the svsmode, or svs2mode
just
>after SVSNICK, so the User nick have not changed yet and ircd replyes a
user
>not found
Humm :), all communications between serves follow the same path, this means
if you send SVSNICK folowed byt SVSMODE, SVSNICK will alaways arrive first,
just after making the nick change the ircd will process the SVSMODE, the
problem can be if the user changes his nick, before the SVSNICK or SVSMODE
arrives to his server, in the first case, SVSNICK will not change their nick
because it will not found the source nick when the message arrives to the
nick server, the same fault will happen SVSMODE. 
Remember that this typle of problem also allows to gain voice on any empty
registered channelwith current services, byt just using an alias that JOIN
#Channel, and MODE #Channel +v yourick, services will only remove your op
after you had voiced yourself. So, voices/bans/topic changes can be "hacked"
on empty channels due to this syncronization problem, like someone said
before on this ML, this problem can only be fixed by some integration
between ircd/services.

P.S.: 
Since I dont have this problem on my network this is just a theory.

-----Original Message-----
From: achurch@dragonfire.net [mailto:achurch@dragonfire.net]
Sent: sábado, 13 de novembro de 1999 3:09
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Some help on cooding


> i dontknow if this is oftopyc, but the nickserv release and ghost seems a
>quiteanoying to me, you have to use 3 comands to getyour nick back
>/m nickserv release (nick) (pass)
>/nick nick
>/mnickserv identify (pass)

     Aside from the fact that it doesn't work with supported servers, as
Andrew Kempe mentioned, this makes it impossible to _not_ change your nick
when you use RELEASE.  Granted, there probably aren't many cases where you
wouldn't want to, but if it's really such a pain to type "/nick nick",
write an alias in your client, don't try to do it in Services.  (I do agree
that using a password with RELEASE should identify you for that nick.)

  --Andrew Church
    achurch@dragonfire.net
    <A  HREF="http://achurch.dragonfire.net/">http://achurch.dragonfire.net/</A>
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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Mon Nov 15 03:25:03 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Some help on cooding
In-Reply-To: <199911150945.EAA24780@mailfw1.ford.com>
References: 199911150945.EAA24780@mailfw1.ford.com
Message-ID: NCBBIPDDJGGDOCPMKPKPIEHICPAA.andrewk@icon.co.za

The problem is that no one seems to understand how SVSNICK works. SVSNICK
does *not* change a user's nickname is *not* propogated to all servers.

A SVSNICK command is sent to the server the client is using. That server
then issues a NICK change and propogates the NICK command to ALL servers.
Thus, you can't send modes for the new nickname because that nickname does
not yet exist (the NICK command has not yet propogated back down the chain
of servers).

If you really wanted to do something like this, send the SVSMODE before the
SVSNICK.

As for all the other stuff about hacking channels and modes and stuff, I
don't understand it well enough to be able to comment.

Andrew

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of Pinto, Joao
> Luis (J.)
> Sent: 15 November 1999 11:46
> To: 'ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org'
> Subject: RE: [IRCServices] Some help on cooding
>
>
> Does not work with supported servers ???
> I thaugth services were supporting +r mode change and nick protection with
> change to GuestXXXX,
> If I am not wrong to be able to do this you need SVSMODE and SVSNICK.
> ........
> >I have tried this  also but the problem is if user is on a laged server,
> the
> >SVSNICK  will have some delay, and note, you send the svsmode,
> or svs2mode
> just
> >after SVSNICK, so the User nick have not changed yet and ircd replyes a
> user
> >not found
[snip]

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From muerte22 at hotmail.com  Mon Nov 15 17:49:18 1999
From: muerte22 at hotmail.com (Angel of Death)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Suggestions
Message-ID: 19991116014919.45274.qmail@hotmail.com




Just a couple of suggestions and comments.  I use these services and think 
they're great. I'm new on this list, so don't get mad if what i say has 
already been said.

1.  Services dont' work properly on SunOS (i hate SunOS personally) THe LIST 
commands don't seem to work.

2.  Is there an EASY way to empliment or will aop/sop wording be used. Alot 
of users are used to the sop/aop ideas of dal. (possible avo for autovoice - 
level 3)

3.  ON the hide hostmask, makes it hard for research of a "forgotten"
password, wouldn't it be better to hide it when the users is IDENTIFIED and 
if the nick isn't identified it shows the last mask used?

That's it for now. Keep up the good work.

Muerte

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From climber at rionet.com.br  Mon Nov 15 20:50:20 1999
From: climber at rionet.com.br (root of all evil)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Some help on cooding
References: <NCBBIPDDJGGDOCPMKPKPIEHICPAA.andrewk@icon.co.za>
Message-ID: 99111600560500.00647@rcmoraes.intranet



I've tried this before, but the problem is, my ircd (based on dreamforge4.5.*)
Removes the +r flag on NICK changes, since the r flags means a registrered nick
and you are changing your nick  to a (maybe) nonregistered one.
 
is  this default on Dreamforge ircds ?

Thanks on advices
(well everione here already know that my english sucks, but sory agayn :P )
FiGhTeR
ircadmin irc.brasirc.com.br


On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, you wrote:
>The problem is that no one seems to understand how SVSNICK works. SVSNICK
>does *not* change a user's nickname is *not* propogated to all servers.
>
>A SVSNICK command is sent to the server the client is using. That server
>then issues a NICK change and propogates the NICK command to ALL servers.
>Thus, you can't send modes for the new nickname because that nickname does
>not yet exist (the NICK command has not yet propogated back down the chain
>of servers).
>
>If you really wanted to do something like this, send the SVSMODE before the
>SVSNICK.
>
>As for all the other stuff about hacking channels and modes and stuff, I
>don't understand it well enough to be able to comment.
>
>Andrew
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
>> [mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of Pinto, Joao
>> Luis (J.)
>> Sent: 15 November 1999 11:46
>> To: 'ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org'
>> Subject: RE: [IRCServices] Some help on cooding
>>
>>
>> Does not work with supported servers ???
>> I thaugth services were supporting +r mode change and nick protection with
>> change to GuestXXXX,
>> If I am not wrong to be able to do this you need SVSMODE and SVSNICK.
>> ........
>> >I have tried this  also but the problem is if user is on a laged server,
>> the
>> >SVSNICK  will have some delay, and note, you send the svsmode,
>> or svs2mode
>> just
>> >after SVSNICK, so the User nick have not changed yet and ircd replyes a
>> user
>> >not found
>[snip]
>
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From simons at ns1.foruto.com  Mon Nov 15 21:20:13 1999
From: simons at ns1.foruto.com (Simons)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Suggestions
References: <19991116014919.45274.qmail@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: 001101bf2ff2$43f0aa20$fec9120a@netvigator.com

> 1.  Services dont' work properly on SunOS (i hate SunOS personally) THe
LIST
> commands don't seem to work.
>

Are you using SunOS 5.5.1 or older? It seem those version are missing
vsnprintf and the services need it

rgds,
Simons



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From uhc0 at rz.uni-karlsruhe.de  Tue Nov 16 01:13:43 1999
From: uhc0 at rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Yusuf Iskenderoglu)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: AW: [IRCServices] Suggestions
In-Reply-To: <19991116014919.45274.qmail@hotmail.com>
References: 19991116014919.45274.qmail@hotmail.com
Message-ID: NDBBKLOOKLMAKHFICBLCCENJCCAA.uhc0@rz.uni&#45;karlsruhe.de


Hi,

Those of us, who have the permissions to search for a forgotten password,
that means, to use the getpass command, are Services Admins.

Services allows Services Admins to use the Set command as well, so,
in a case, where you should need to compare hostnames, or Ip Addresses,
you can, as a services admin use
/nickserv set nickname hide usermask off
and get info on that nick
and then hide usermask back on again.

Problems with SunOS can be solved, you can search on the list archive for solutions.

---------------------------------
Yusuf Iskenderoglu
eMail - uhc0@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
ICQ : 20587464 / TimeMr14C
--------------------------------- 

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
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[mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]Im Auftrag von Angel of
Death
Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. November 1999 02:49
An: ircservices@gp.school.za
Betreff: [IRCServices] Suggestions





Just a couple of suggestions and comments.  I use these services and think 
they're great. I'm new on this list, so don't get mad if what i say has 
already been said.

1.  Services dont' work properly on SunOS (i hate SunOS personally) THe LIST 
commands don't seem to work.

2.  Is there an EASY way to empliment or will aop/sop wording be used. Alot 
of users are used to the sop/aop ideas of dal. (possible avo for autovoice - 
level 3)

3.  ON the hide hostmask, makes it hard for research of a "forgotten"
password, wouldn't it be better to hide it when the users is IDENTIFIED and 
if the nick isn't identified it shows the last mask used?

That's it for now. Keep up the good work.

Muerte

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From bombbomb at wwdg.com  Wed Nov 17 22:04:34 1999
From: bombbomb at wwdg.com (¬µ¼u¥J)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Mirror Site of ircservices
Message-ID: 4.1.19991118140345.0092bec0@mail.wwdg.com

Hi,

        The ircservices homepage was down now. Can anyone suggest another mirror
site which i can download the latest ircservices ?

                                                        bomb  
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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Wed Nov 17 23:21:42 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Mirror Site of ircservices
In-Reply-To: <4.1.19991118140345.0092bec0@mail.wwdg.com>
References: 4.1.19991118140345.0092bec0@mail.wwdg.com
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.3.96.991118092100.8829A&#45;100000@shell.icon.co.za

It is back up.

You can always go to:

ftp.electrocity.com

Andrew

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, [iso-8859-1] ¬µ¼u¥J wrote:

> Hi,
> 
>       The ircservices homepage was down now. Can anyone suggest another mirror
> site which i can download the latest ircservices ?
> 
>                                                       bomb  
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From martini at intergate.com.br  Thu Nov 18 00:01:50 1999
From: martini at intergate.com.br (Carlos Mendes Martini)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Re: Mirror Site of ircservices
References: <4.1.19991118140345.0092bec0@mail.wwdg.com>
Message-ID: 3833B26E.25CF4E18@intergate.com.br

¬µ¼u¥J wrote:
> 
>         The ircservices homepage was down now. Can anyone suggest
> another mirror site which i can download the latest ircservices ?


        I've disponibilized the original ircservices for you at

        http://www.brasirc.net/download/ircservices-4.3.3.tar.gz


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From dragon at wastelands.net  Thu Nov 18 01:10:21 1999
From: dragon at wastelands.net (Gaven Cohen)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Adding features to services
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.10.9911181057150.1040&#45;100000@dragon.wastelands.net


This is just a quickie based on what I read earlier.

If you're going to add features to ircservices, especially if you intend
(or atleast, would like) your features to be incorporated into newer
releases, you MUST make sure ALL your code changes will accomodate ALL
supported IRCds.

The way Andy originally coded services makes this quite easier... you have
a number of compile-time directives which compile in the appropriate code
based on the ircd selected at configuration.

For example:

        #ifdef IRC_DAL4_4_15
                ... code ...
        #endif

The expressions available are:

        IRC_DALNET, IRC_DAL4_4_15, IRC_CLASSIC,
        IRC_UNDERNET_NEW, IRC_TS8, IRC_UNDERNET, 

Don't suppose anyone is bored and would like to outline the differences
between these IRCds?  Maybe add it to a programming FAQ for services which
another bored person could make?

Lastly, I agree with the need for an additional list for the CODING of
ircservices.  Feature suggestions and things help requests are fine for a
normal list, but I think a place where people could discuss implementation
of certain things and what they break, how to fix these things, etc, would
be constructive.

- Gav

---
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freelance sysadmin/programmer HABONIM DROR linux, fantasy enthusiast
RSA/1024 0xFC82B78F 4B 43 3C 20 47 58 AF AC  DB 1E 7F 6E 64 08 15 7E

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From rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br  Thu Nov 18 03:18:21 1999
From: rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br (Rafael Ritter)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Adding features to services
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9911181057150.1040-100000@dragon.wastelands.net>
References: Pine.LNX.4.10.9911181057150.1040&#45;100000@dragon.wastelands.net
Message-ID: 3.0.6.32.19991118091821.01220d00@kapa.procergs.com.br

Just a suggestion:
in my server, I had disabled the DROP and SET FOUNDER commands. To use this
command you need to be an IRCop.
This simple change dont let users to stole channels from another users.
They can even stole de password, but the channel's INFO allways will show
the nickname of real founder. If someone, ask for a password or something
relative, you only need to look at channel INFO.

Rafael Ritter
Equipe VIA RS

At 11:10 18/11/99 +0200, you wrote:
>
>This is just a quickie based on what I read earlier.
>
>If you're going to add features to ircservices, especially if you intend
>(or atleast, would like) your features to be incorporated into newer
>releases, you MUST make sure ALL your code changes will accomodate ALL
>supported IRCds.
>
>The way Andy originally coded services makes this quite easier... you have
>a number of compile-time directives which compile in the appropriate code
>based on the ircd selected at configuration.
>
>For example:
>
>       #ifdef IRC_DAL4_4_15
>               ... code ...
>       #endif
>
>The expressions available are:
>
>       IRC_DALNET, IRC_DAL4_4_15, IRC_CLASSIC,
>       IRC_UNDERNET_NEW, IRC_TS8, IRC_UNDERNET, 
>
>Don't suppose anyone is bored and would like to outline the differences
>between these IRCds?  Maybe add it to a programming FAQ for services which
>another bored person could make?
>
>Lastly, I agree with the need for an additional list for the CODING of
>ircservices.  Feature suggestions and things help requests are fine for a
>normal list, but I think a place where people could discuss implementation
>of certain things and what they break, how to fix these things, etc, would
>be constructive.
>
>- Gav
>
>---
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>freelance sysadmin/programmer HABONIM DROR linux, fantasy enthusiast
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From dooley at unity-games.com  Thu Nov 18 09:23:50 1999
From: dooley at unity-games.com (Dooley)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Adding features to services
References: <3.0.6.32.19991118091821.01220d00@kapa.procergs.com.br>
Message-ID: 003601bf31ea$e03a7920$040260d1@postnet.com

I would be willing to set up and host such a list if there are no objections
from Andrew, and or there is enough interest.

Chris Riley A.K.A. Dooley,
IRC Administrator irc.risanet.com
http://www.risanet.com

----- Original Message -----
From: Rafael Ritter <rafael@kapa.procergs.com.br>
To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 5:18 AM
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Adding features to services


> Just a suggestion:
> in my server, I had disabled the DROP and SET FOUNDER commands. To use
this
> command you need to be an IRCop.
> This simple change dont let users to stole channels from another users.
> They can even stole de password, but the channel's INFO allways will show
> the nickname of real founder. If someone, ask for a password or something
> relative, you only need to look at channel INFO.
>
> Rafael Ritter
> Equipe VIA RS
>
> At 11:10 18/11/99 +0200, you wrote:
> >
> >This is just a quickie based on what I read earlier.
> >
> >If you're going to add features to ircservices, especially if you intend
> >(or atleast, would like) your features to be incorporated into newer
> >releases, you MUST make sure ALL your code changes will accomodate ALL
> >supported IRCds.
> >
> >The way Andy originally coded services makes this quite easier... you
have
> >a number of compile-time directives which compile in the appropriate code
> >based on the ircd selected at configuration.
> >
> >For example:
> >
> > #ifdef IRC_DAL4_4_15
> > ... code ...
> > #endif
> >
> >The expressions available are:
> >
> > IRC_DALNET, IRC_DAL4_4_15, IRC_CLASSIC,
> > IRC_UNDERNET_NEW, IRC_TS8, IRC_UNDERNET,
> >
> >Don't suppose anyone is bored and would like to outline the differences
> >between these IRCds?  Maybe add it to a programming FAQ for services
which
> >another bored person could make?
> >
> >Lastly, I agree with the need for an additional list for the CODING of
> >ircservices.  Feature suggestions and things help requests are fine for a
> >normal list, but I think a place where people could discuss
implementation
> >of certain things and what they break, how to fix these things, etc,
would
> >be constructive.
> >
> >- Gav
> >
> >---
> >Gaven Cohen aka Kinslayer <dragon@wastelands.net> www.wastelands.net
> >freelance sysadmin/programmer HABONIM DROR linux, fantasy enthusiast
> >RSA/1024 0xFC82B78F 4B 43 3C 20 47 58 AF AC  DB 1E 7F 6E 64 08 15 7E
> >
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From chriswh at cyberhighway.net  Thu Nov 18 12:37:54 1999
From: chriswh at cyberhighway.net (Chris)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Adding features to services
Message-ID: 199911182003.WAA30263@Ender.gp.school.za

What do you gain by this? From how I read it, only IRCops can drop
channels. That can be a major pain. Users
should be able to drop stuff by themselves without having to go ask
somebody to do it for them, and getting put on a waiting list for the Opers
to get around to dropping their channel. I'm sorry, but if I read this
correctly, this isn't a good idea IMHO. I know if I were a user it'd really
piss me off.
Just my $.02

-Chris

P.S. I would like to see the aop/sop/av/etc. commands implemented into
services in replace of the "dreaded" ACCESS =)

----------
> From: Rafael Ritter <rafael@kapa.procergs.com.br>
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Adding features to services
> Date: Thursday, November 18, 1999 6:18 AM
> 
> Just a suggestion:
> in my server, I had disabled the DROP and SET FOUNDER commands. To use
this
> command you need to be an IRCop.
> This simple change dont let users to stole channels from another users.
> They can even stole de password, but the channel's INFO allways will show
> the nickname of real founder. If someone, ask for a password or something
> relative, you only need to look at channel INFO.
> 
> Rafael Ritter
> Equipe VIA RS
> 
> At 11:10 18/11/99 +0200, you wrote:
> >
> >This is just a quickie based on what I read earlier.
> >
> >If you're going to add features to ircservices, especially if you intend
> >(or atleast, would like) your features to be incorporated into newer
> >releases, you MUST make sure ALL your code changes will accomodate ALL
> >supported IRCds.
> >
> >The way Andy originally coded services makes this quite easier... you
have
> >a number of compile-time directives which compile in the appropriate
code
> >based on the ircd selected at configuration.
> >
> >For example:
> >
> >     #ifdef IRC_DAL4_4_15
> >             ... code ...
> >     #endif
> >
> >The expressions available are:
> >
> >     IRC_DALNET, IRC_DAL4_4_15, IRC_CLASSIC,
> >     IRC_UNDERNET_NEW, IRC_TS8, IRC_UNDERNET, 
> >
> >Don't suppose anyone is bored and would like to outline the differences
> >between these IRCds?  Maybe add it to a programming FAQ for services
which
> >another bored person could make?
> >
> >Lastly, I agree with the need for an additional list for the CODING of
> >ircservices.  Feature suggestions and things help requests are fine for
a
> >normal list, but I think a place where people could discuss
implementation
> >of certain things and what they break, how to fix these things, etc,
would
> >be constructive.
> >
> >- Gav
> >
> >---
> >Gaven Cohen aka Kinslayer <dragon@wastelands.net> www.wastelands.net
> >freelance sysadmin/programmer HABONIM DROR linux, fantasy enthusiast
> >RSA/1024 0xFC82B78F 4B 43 3C 20 47 58 AF AC  DB 1E 7F 6E 64 08 15 7E
> >
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From quension at softhome.net  Thu Nov 18 15:17:26 1999
From: quension at softhome.net (quension@softhome.net)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Ref: coding ml
References: <3.0.6.32.19991118091821.01220d00@kapa.procergs.com.br> <003601bf31ea$e03a7920$040260d1@postnet.com>
Message-ID: 38348906.9A468C98@softhome.net

Dooley wrote:

> I would be willing to set up and host such a list if there are no objections
> from Andrew, and or there is enough interest.

*interest*  :)

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From ianj at esper.net  Thu Nov 18 17:42:38 1999
From: ianj at esper.net (Ian R. Justman)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Copyright Violations
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.96.991111091830.13978C-100000@shell.icon.co.za>
References: Pine.GSO.3.96.991111091830.13978C&#45;100000@shell.icon.co.za
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.3.96.991118173613.144B&#45;100000@vector.chocobo.org

On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, Andrew Kempe wrote:

> I've downloaded the source from their FTP site, and they've left 99% of
> all copyrights in place -  apart from adding a few lines. I agree they
> could have said a bit more about who originally coded services, but it's
> no where near as bad as Magick. They haven't even gone to the trouble of
> changing the email address for bug reports - this annoys me. Andy (and
> myself) are sick and tired of having to support all these people who run
> modified versions of Services.
> 
> On top of this, the dude who is coding these services doesn't seem to have
> a clue about what he's breaking while he tries to add stuff. I'd stear
> very clear of this branch.
> 
> Andrew

Sorry for the late reply. :)

Likewise, I periodically get requests from time to time (though seldomly) 
for help with Magick, though none with Rush yet.  I have steadfastly told
people to stop using Magick, which was recoded by an amateur (many of the
people have griped about its instability) working from a grossly
antiquated codebase (it's based upon 2.2.24 if memory serves me).

I mailed Preston Elder a while back to refrain from using the EsperNet
name entirely.  I was given a "nice" letter telling me to fuck off.

I even went so far as to mail RMS about this and the GPL.  He says that
the GPL has been clearly violated in this case. 

I just say, "Why use the imitators' stuff when you've got The Real
Thing(R)?"  :)

--Ian R. Justman, Co-Founder and Postmaster, The EsperNet IRC Network.

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From atcarr at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 18 19:41:35 1999
From: atcarr at hotmail.com (The Phantom of the Internet)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Ref: coding ml
Message-ID: 19991119034136.33825.qmail@hotmail.com




>I would be willing to set up and host such a list if there are no 
>objections
 > from Andrew, and or there is enough interest.
Another Interest

Phantom

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From jestercm at chatfamily.com  Fri Nov 19 13:10:03 1999
From: jestercm at chatfamily.com (David Narayan)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Ref: coding ml
In-Reply-To: <19991119034136.33825.qmail@hotmail.com>
References: 19991119034136.33825.qmail@hotmail.com
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.10.9911191609380.24563&#45;100000@ns.chatfamily.com

another interest

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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, The Phantom of the Internet wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> >I would be willing to set up and host such a list if there are no 
> >objections
>  > from Andrew, and or there is enough interest.
> Another Interest
> 
> Phantom
> 
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From kfiresun at ix.netcom.com  Fri Nov 19 15:53:24 1999
From: kfiresun at ix.netcom.com (Kelmar Firesun)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Adding features to services
Message-ID: 001801bf32e9$45b7deb0$37526dd1@dragon.tiphares.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Dooley <dooley@unity-games.com>
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Date: Thursday, November 18, 1999 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Adding features to services


>I would be willing to set up and host such a list if there are no
objections
>from Andrew, and or there is enough interest.
>


Here, here!



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From martini at intergate.com.br  Sat Nov 20 01:29:55 1999
From: martini at intergate.com.br (Carlos Mendes Martini)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Re: Ref: coding ml
References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9911191609380.24563-100000@ns.chatfamily.com>
Message-ID: 38366A12.C789861F@intergate.com.br

The Phantom of the Internet wrote:
> 
> >I would be willing to set up and host such a list if there are no
> >objections
> > from Andrew, and or there is enough interest.
> > Another Interest
>
> Phantom


        I can host the list too, in my network domain, no problems.

        Can I made this list here? There is some objection?


        Best regards,
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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Sat Nov 20 03:03:11 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Email Address - bouncing
Message-ID: NCBBIPDDJGGDOCPMKPKPKEKECPAA.andrewk@icon.co.za

Sorry for the spam,

If anyone knows this email address, tell the owner they're no longer on the
mailing list. Their mailbox continually becomes full for weeks on end.

xbruce@portugal.globalsite.com.br

Thanks, Andrew

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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Sat Nov 20 03:03:15 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Development Mailing List
Message-ID: NCBBIPDDJGGDOCPMKPKPOEKECPAA.andrewk@icon.co.za

It's pretty clear to see that a list of this nature would be appreciated and
I'll gladly host such a list.

This list should be used to discuss how to make changes to the Services
source, what those changes may break, ways in which the current code and be
optimised and what the best way of doing all these things may be.

I don't want this list to become a place where people post once-off hacks.
Code that has been discussed and is generally regarded as being acceptable
will be stored on the ftp site. Should the changes work on a global scale,
integrate properly with IRC Services, and are in demand, they will be
considered for inclusion on the main distribution.

I have to emphasise that IRC Services caters for a wide range of users at
present. This means that although a change may be wonderfull, it may not be
suitable for release with the main distribution.

If you have any comments or suggestions, please let me know. I'm pretty open
to changing things to benefit the majority. This is going to be a ML where
skills and creativity can be shared. Please use it appropriately.

I'll probably have the list up and running sometime today.

Regards, Andrew

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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Sun Nov 21 06:44:43 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] IRCServices-Coding Mailing List
Message-ID: NCBBIPDDJGGDOCPMKPKPMEKNCPAA.andrewk@icon.co.za

I've setup a list, as per the popular demand, for the discussion of coding
for IRC Services.

Please make proper use of this list. It is not a place to post once-off
hacks, as I said in my previous mail. It should be used constructively to
gain an insight into the operation of IRC Services and to find optimal
methods of implementing changes.

Please refrain from posting patches at this stage. If you have something
you'd like to share, notify the list of what it is, what it does and its
size. People should then reply to you privately requesting the patch. Should
a patch become popular and be recognised as stable and well written, it will
be added to the the IRC Services ftp site.

To subscribe to this list, email:

        majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org

...with the following line in the _body_ of the email:

        subscribe ircservices-coding

An archive of this list will be kept at:

        http://ender.shadowfire.org/ircservices-coding/listarchive/

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From rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br  Mon Nov 22 04:34:58 1999
From: rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br (Rafael Ritter)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Adding features to services
In-Reply-To: <199911182003.WAA30263@Ender.gp.school.za>
References: 199911182003.WAA30263@Ender.gp.school.za
Message-ID: 3.0.6.32.19991122103458.0129a4f0@kapa.procergs.com.br

In a big network, this may be a problem. My server have +- 5000 users, and
by removing this two features, we could reduce the problem of stealling
channels.
I just wrote this experiment here, because it may be usefull to someone
with this problems.

Rafael Ritter
Equipe VIA RS

At 15:37 18/11/99 -0500, you wrote:
>What do you gain by this? From how I read it, only IRCops can drop
>channels. That can be a major pain. Users
>should be able to drop stuff by themselves without having to go ask
>somebody to do it for them, and getting put on a waiting list for the Opers
>to get around to dropping their channel. I'm sorry, but if I read this
>correctly, this isn't a good idea IMHO. I know if I were a user it'd really
>piss me off.
>Just my $.02
>
>-Chris
>
>P.S. I would like to see the aop/sop/av/etc. commands implemented into
>services in replace of the "dreaded" ACCESS =)
>
>----------
>> From: Rafael Ritter <rafael@kapa.procergs.com.br>
>> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
>> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Adding features to services
>> Date: Thursday, November 18, 1999 6:18 AM
>> 
>> Just a suggestion:
>> in my server, I had disabled the DROP and SET FOUNDER commands. To use
>this
>> command you need to be an IRCop.
>> This simple change dont let users to stole channels from another users.
>> They can even stole de password, but the channel's INFO allways will show
>> the nickname of real founder. If someone, ask for a password or something
>> relative, you only need to look at channel INFO.
>> 
>> Rafael Ritter
>> Equipe VIA RS
>> 
>> At 11:10 18/11/99 +0200, you wrote:
>> >
>> >This is just a quickie based on what I read earlier.
>> >
>> >If you're going to add features to ircservices, especially if you intend
>> >(or atleast, would like) your features to be incorporated into newer
>> >releases, you MUST make sure ALL your code changes will accomodate ALL
>> >supported IRCds.
>> >
>> >The way Andy originally coded services makes this quite easier... you
>have
>> >a number of compile-time directives which compile in the appropriate
>code
>> >based on the ircd selected at configuration.
>> >
>> >For example:
>> >
>> >    #ifdef IRC_DAL4_4_15
>> >            ... code ...
>> >    #endif
>> >
>> >The expressions available are:
>> >
>> >    IRC_DALNET, IRC_DAL4_4_15, IRC_CLASSIC,
>> >    IRC_UNDERNET_NEW, IRC_TS8, IRC_UNDERNET, 
>> >
>> >Don't suppose anyone is bored and would like to outline the differences
>> >between these IRCds?  Maybe add it to a programming FAQ for services
>which
>> >another bored person could make?
>> >
>> >Lastly, I agree with the need for an additional list for the CODING of
>> >ircservices.  Feature suggestions and things help requests are fine for
>a
>> >normal list, but I think a place where people could discuss
>implementation
>> >of certain things and what they break, how to fix these things, etc,
>would
>> >be constructive.
>> >
>> >- Gav
>> >
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From chris94688 at hotmail.com  Mon Nov 22 07:27:32 1999
From: chris94688 at hotmail.com (Chris W.)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Adding features to services
Message-ID: 19991122152732.58261.qmail@hotmail.com

Forgive my strange email address. I'm on vacation and my proxy server can 
only use hotmail. Anyway, One way to do this would be perhaps to add a step 
or 2 used for dropping something. Such as an email or a "secret question 
answer" as many places use. So it would go something like:
/msg *Serv drop <nick/channel> <pass> <email> <secret answer>

That would add two more walls for takeovers. I remember, back in my newbie 
days, watching a guy take over a channel. He didn't get the password, or 
drop the channel, etc. He somehow either hacked the host and got aop or 
sop(on DALnet, not your guys services), or he woyld join the channel during 
a services downfall and would gain op by an unsuspecting op and banned 
everyone from the channel. None of these have to do with services. However, 
i think adding a commands like the above would be beneficial to stopping 
this problem via getting channel or nickname passwords. It should be 
optional; however, because some people think that's too much of a hassle. 
Different things for different people, as always. Anyone wanna make a patch, 
that could be approved first by Andrew? Once again, my $.02
-Chris


>From: Rafael Ritter <rafael@kapa.procergs.com.br>
>Reply-To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
>To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
>Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Adding features to services
>Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 10:34:58 -0200
>
>In a big network, this may be a problem. My server have +- 5000 users, and
>by removing this two features, we could reduce the problem of stealling
>channels.
>I just wrote this experiment here, because it may be usefull to someone
>with this problems.
>
>Rafael Ritter
>Equipe VIA RS
>
>At 15:37 18/11/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >What do you gain by this? From how I read it, only IRCops can drop
> >channels. That can be a major pain. Users
> >should be able to drop stuff by themselves without having to go ask
> >somebody to do it for them, and getting put on a waiting list for the 
>Opers
> >to get around to dropping their channel. I'm sorry, but if I read this
> >correctly, this isn't a good idea IMHO. I know if I were a user it'd 
>really
> >piss me off.
> >Just my $.02
> >
> >-Chris
> >
> >P.S. I would like to see the aop/sop/av/etc. commands implemented into
> >services in replace of the "dreaded" ACCESS =)
> >
> >----------
> >> From: Rafael Ritter <rafael@kapa.procergs.com.br>
> >> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> >> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Adding features to services
> >> Date: Thursday, November 18, 1999 6:18 AM
> >>
> >> Just a suggestion:
> >> in my server, I had disabled the DROP and SET FOUNDER commands. To use
> >this
> >> command you need to be an IRCop.
> >> This simple change dont let users to stole channels from another users.
> >> They can even stole de password, but the channel's INFO allways will 
>show
> >> the nickname of real founder. If someone, ask for a password or 
>something
> >> relative, you only need to look at channel INFO.
> >>
> >> Rafael Ritter
> >> Equipe VIA RS
> >>
> >> At 11:10 18/11/99 +0200, you wrote:
> >> >
> >> >This is just a quickie based on what I read earlier.
> >> >
> >> >If you're going to add features to ircservices, especially if you 
>intend
> >> >(or atleast, would like) your features to be incorporated into newer
> >> >releases, you MUST make sure ALL your code changes will accomodate ALL
> >> >supported IRCds.
> >> >
> >> >The way Andy originally coded services makes this quite easier... you
> >have
> >> >a number of compile-time directives which compile in the appropriate
> >code
> >> >based on the ircd selected at configuration.
> >> >
> >> >For example:
> >> >
> >> >  #ifdef IRC_DAL4_4_15
> >> >          ... code ...
> >> >  #endif
> >> >
> >> >The expressions available are:
> >> >
> >> >  IRC_DALNET, IRC_DAL4_4_15, IRC_CLASSIC,
> >> >  IRC_UNDERNET_NEW, IRC_TS8, IRC_UNDERNET,
> >> >
> >> >Don't suppose anyone is bored and would like to outline the 
>differences
> >> >between these IRCds?  Maybe add it to a programming FAQ for services
> >which
> >> >another bored person could make?
> >> >
> >> >Lastly, I agree with the need for an additional list for the CODING of
> >> >ircservices.  Feature suggestions and things help requests are fine 
>for
> >a
> >> >normal list, but I think a place where people could discuss
> >implementation
> >> >of certain things and what they break, how to fix these things, etc,
> >would
> >> >be constructive.
> >> >
> >> >- Gav
> >> >
> >> >---
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From cbecerram at entelchile.net  Wed Dec  8 11:42:48 1999
From: cbecerram at entelchile.net (Carlos Becerra T.)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ircu2.10.07 isn't compatible whit the services?
References: <199912050011.CAA31517@Ender.gp.school.za>
Message-ID: 384EB4B8.F213E269@entelchile.net

>> Hello
>>         I am a undernet servers user and i want compil a service for my
>> server but i have a problem whit the services.
>>      The services is esper-services-4.3.3.tar.gz and the server version
>> is ircu2.10.04
>>    The error message is :
>
>get ircu2.10.07 from http://coder-com.undernet.org/
uhmmm I isntalled the version 2.10.07 but the error is the same...

[Dec 08 16:31:31 1999] Services 4.3.2 (compiled for RFC1459 + TS8) starting up
[Dec 08 16:31:31 1999] Databases loaded
[Dec 08 16:31:31 1999] unknown message from server (:anime.cl 461  SERVER :Not
enough parameters)
[Dec 08 16:31:31 1999] unknown message from server (ERROR :Closing Link:
[200.27.103.85] by anime.cl (Need more parameters))
[Dec 08 16:31:31 1999] Read error from server: Broken pipe

What can i do?
sorry but my english isn't very well...
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From scrm at scandal.org  Wed Dec  8 21:25:17 1999
From: scrm at scandal.org (Mehran Khalili)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] stats services
References: <199912050011.CAA31517@Ender.gp.school.za> <384EB4B8.F213E269@entelchile.net>
Message-ID: 001b01bf4205$c7c7e820$44c407c2@xilo

I am looking for a web-based channel statistics service which allows me to
view channel statistics without needing to use bots.

(Something like GeoStats, but much more informative).

Is such a system available for use with your Services, or does anyone know
of a good one that exists?

Thanks,

Mehran

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From achurch at dragonfire.net  Thu Dec  9 20:48:43 1999
From: achurch at dragonfire.net (Andrew Church)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ircu2.10.07 isn't compatible whit the services?
Message-ID: 384f9747.33227@dragonfire.net

>uhmmm I isntalled the version 2.10.07 but the error is the same...
>
>[Dec 08 16:31:31 1999] Services 4.3.2 (compiled for RFC1459 + TS8) starti
>ng up

     You've compiled Services for the wrong IRCD.  Rerun the configure
script and select the correct option for IRC server type.

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    achurch@dragonfire.net
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From cbecerram at entelchile.net  Thu Dec  9 05:58:55 1999
From: cbecerram at entelchile.net (Carlos Becerra T.)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ircu2.10.07 isn't compatible whit the services?
References: <384f9747.33227@dragonfire.net>
Message-ID: 384FB59F.663B4AC3@entelchile.net

>      You've compiled Services for the wrong IRCD.  Rerun the configure
> script and select the correct option for IRC server type.

So?...  for what server type should I  have compiled my ircd ?
Should I  have compile the ircd for dalnet?

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From net at lite.net  Thu Dec  9 15:19:41 1999
From: net at lite.net (Jonathan George)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ircu2.10.07 isn't compatible whit the services?
In-Reply-To: <384FB59F.663B4AC3@entelchile.net>
References: 384FB59F.663B4AC3@entelchile.net
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.10.9912091719150.1003&#45;100000@lite.net

        Services' are not compatible with ircu2.10.07.

|>      You've compiled Services for the wrong IRCD.  Rerun the configure
|> script and select the correct option for IRC server type.
|
|So?...  for what server type should I  have compiled my ircd ?
|Should I  have compile the ircd for dalnet?

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From joshodom at uswest.net  Thu Dec  9 04:38:42 1999
From: joshodom at uswest.net (Josh Odom)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ircu2.10.07 isn't compatible whit the services?
In-Reply-To: <384FB59F.663B4AC3@entelchile.net>
References: 384FB59F.663B4AC3@entelchile.net
Message-ID: LNBBIDPHKBGLGHDPOHNAKEFCCAAA.joshodom@uswest.net

You need to select the proper IRCU type on the configure menu.

Josh Odom
SiliconShadow

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Becerra T.
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 5:59 AM
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] ircu2.10.07 isn't compatible whit the
services?


>      You've compiled Services for the wrong IRCD.  Rerun the configure
> script and select the correct option for IRC server type.

So?...  for what server type should I  have compiled my ircd ?
Should I  have compile the ircd for dalnet?

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From kfiresun at ix.netcom.com  Thu Dec  9 19:33:51 1999
From: kfiresun at ix.netcom.com (Kelmar Firesun)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: There seems to be some confusion, was Re: [IRCServices] ircu2.10.07 isn't compatible whit the services?
Message-ID: 002201bf42bf$637211b0$37526dd1@dragon.tiphares.com

The current release of Services is not compatible with ircu2.10.07, the
reason for this is because they mucked with the server message and
a few other messages.

Here's a small excerpt from the config script that might intrest you though,
if you are indeed instrested in trying to getting Services to work with it:

...
####

# XXX ircu 2.10 commented out because it doesn't seem to work

ok=0
echo "Which of the following is closest to the type of server on your IRC"
echo "network?"
echo "     1) Base irc2 distribution (RFC 1459 compliant)"
echo "     2) irc2 with TS8 protocol"
echo "    11) Undernet (ircu) 2.9.32 or earlier"
#echo "    12) Undernet (ircu) 2.10.x (version 9 protocol support required)"
echo "    21) DALnet (ircd.dal) prior to 4.4.15"
echo "    22) DALnet (ircd.dal) 4.4.15 or later"
...



-----Original Message-----
From: Josh Odom <joshodom@uswest.net>
To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Date: Thursday, December 09, 1999 5:55 PM
Subject: RE: [IRCServices] ircu2.10.07 isn't compatible whit the services?


>You need to select the proper IRCU type on the configure menu.
>
>Josh Odom
>SiliconShadow
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
>[mailto:owner-ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org]On Behalf Of Carlos
>Becerra T.
>Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 5:59 AM
>To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
>Subject: Re: [IRCServices] ircu2.10.07 isn't compatible whit the
>services?
>
>
>>      You've compiled Services for the wrong IRCD.  Rerun the configure
>> script and select the correct option for IRC server type.
>
>So?...  for what server type should I  have compiled my ircd ?
>Should I  have compile the ircd for dalnet?
>
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From natey at capetown.za.org  Tue Dec 14 10:39:06 1999
From: natey at capetown.za.org (Natey on IRC)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] stats services
In-Reply-To: <001b01bf4205$c7c7e820$44c407c2@xilo>
References: <199912050011.CAA31517@Ender.gp.school.za><384EB4B8.F213E269@entelchile.net>
Message-ID: 3.0.5.32.19991214203906.00b4d0e0@dbadmin.natey.za.net

At 05:25 AM 09/12/99 -0000, you wrote:
>I am looking for a web-based channel statistics service which allows me to
>view channel statistics without needing to use bots.
>
>(Something like GeoStats, but much more informative).
>
>Is such a system available for use with your Services, or does anyone know
>of a good one that exists?
>
What you are going to need to use is some perl scripts and use MRTG to
generate graphs for it.

Regards
Natey

>Thanks,
>
>Mehran
>
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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Wed Dec 22 11:33:04 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:54 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ChanServ KICK command(?)
Message-ID: NCBBIPDDJGGDOCPMKPKPIEKKDAAA.andrewk@icon.co.za

Has this ever been discussed before? Is there a reason that there is no
command that allows a user to instruct ChanServ to kick someone from the
channel?

I don't _think_ I've ever seen a discussion about this, nor do I recall
seeing anything in the documentation (I've been grep'ing all evening without
finding anything).

It may come in usefull in cases where channel admins don't not want to give
ops out to people, but want them to be able to remove users from the
channel.

Your input would be appreciated.

Thanks, Andrew

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From dreamer at darkness.gr  Wed Dec 22 12:33:24 1999
From: dreamer at darkness.gr (Nick Krassas)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ChanServ KICK command(?)
In-Reply-To: <NCBBIPDDJGGDOCPMKPKPIEKKDAAA.andrewk@icon.co.za>
References: NCBBIPDDJGGDOCPMKPKPIEKKDAAA.andrewk@icon.co.za
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.20.9912222230020.2081&#45;100000@darkness.darkness.gr

Greetings all,
        one idea is that a user having access at one channel could easy
put a akick to the user that is not wanted in the channel. a second
reason, is the kick going to be anonymous ? and is this correct ? 

Dinos




On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Andrew Kempe wrote:

> Has this ever been discussed before? Is there a reason that there is no
> command that allows a user to instruct ChanServ to kick someone from the
> channel?
> 
> I don't _think_ I've ever seen a discussion about this, nor do I recall
> seeing anything in the documentation (I've been grep'ing all evening without
> finding anything).
> 
> It may come in usefull in cases where channel admins don't not want to give
> ops out to people, but want them to be able to remove users from the
> channel.
> 
> Your input would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks, Andrew
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From listuser at bundynet.de  Wed Dec 22 13:24:50 1999
From: listuser at bundynet.de (Stefan Funke)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ChanServ KICK command(?)
In-Reply-To: <NCBBIPDDJGGDOCPMKPKPIEKKDAAA.andrewk@icon.co.za>
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Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.10.9912222218080.7276&#45;100000@dragon.bundynet.lan

On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Andrew Kempe wrote:

> Has this ever been discussed before? Is there a reason that there is no
> command that allows a user to instruct ChanServ to kick someone from the
> channel?
 
> It may come in usefull in cases where channel admins don't not want to give
> ops out to people, but want them to be able to remove users from the
> channel.
 
Don't think a remote kick is usefull in times where the normal user uses
these auto rejoin scripts. Later it will end in a kick/join flood. I think
that if you would like someone to play OP give him/her the required access
level. 

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From Admin at fuelie.net  Wed Dec 22 18:07:09 1999
From: Admin at fuelie.net (Fuelie Admin)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ChanServ KICK command(?)
References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9912222218080.7276-100000@dragon.bundynet.lan>
Message-ID: 000d01bf4cea$6b5bcda0$74ba5e18@kc.rr.com

I think a kick command would be a good addition
as some networks have webtv users and this would be a easier way for a
channel op to remove a bad client and give sort of a warning that they will
be akicked if it continues


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Subject: Re: [IRCServices] ChanServ KICK command(?)


> On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Andrew Kempe wrote:
>
> > Has this ever been discussed before? Is there a reason that there is no
> > command that allows a user to instruct ChanServ to kick someone from the
> > channel?
>
> > It may come in usefull in cases where channel admins don't not want to
give
> > ops out to people, but want them to be able to remove users from the
> > channel.
>
> Don't think a remote kick is usefull in times where the normal user uses
> these auto rejoin scripts. Later it will end in a kick/join flood. I think
> that if you would like someone to play OP give him/her the required access
> level.
>
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From kfiresun at ix.netcom.com  Wed Dec 22 18:17:31 1999
From: kfiresun at ix.netcom.com (Kelmar Firesun)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ChanServ KICK command(?)
Message-ID: 002401bf4ceb$df214bb0$37526dd1@dragon.tiphares.com


Nick Krassas <dreamer@darkness.gr> wrote:

>Greetings all,
> one idea is that a user having access at one channel could easy
>put a akick to the user that is not wanted in the channel. a second
>reason, is the kick going to be anonymous ? and is this correct ? 
>


Yes, but an A-Kick doesn't kick someone from the channel unless
they are currently trying to join said channel.  If they are already in
there, it wouldn't have any effect.

Stefan Funke <listuser@bundynet.de> also wrote:
>
>Don't think a remote kick is usefull in times where the normal user uses
>these auto rejoin scripts. Later it will end in a kick/join flood. I think
>that if you would like someone to play OP give him/her the required access
>level. 
>

I don't believe it would work that way.  It would be a normal kick as if a 
channel op used it.  If they needed to keep the user out they could set
an A-Kick before issuing the kick command, which would curcomvent(sp)
such a problem from ever happening.

I personaly would like to see the idea implemented, perhaps as a level
10+ command by default.  Currently the only people that can use services
to kick a user from a channel are services opers via OperServ.

Kelmar K. Firesun

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From Admin at fuelie.net  Wed Dec 22 18:58:46 1999
From: Admin at fuelie.net (Fuelie Admin)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ChanServ KICK command(?)
References: <002401bf4ceb$df214bb0$37526dd1@dragon.tiphares.com>
Message-ID: 000901bf4cf1$a1876ea0$56ba5e18@kc.rr.com

AS I SAID WEBTV
webtv has no client commands so they need to use services to control their
channel
thinking of them i think the addition is a good idea


Thank You,
      Founder of http://www.Fuelie.Net
 Fuelie.net Chat Network!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelmar Firesun" <kfiresun@ix.netcom.com>
To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] ChanServ KICK command(?)


>
> Nick Krassas <dreamer@darkness.gr> wrote:
>
> >Greetings all,
> > one idea is that a user having access at one channel could easy
> >put a akick to the user that is not wanted in the channel. a second
> >reason, is the kick going to be anonymous ? and is this correct ?
> >
>
>
> Yes, but an A-Kick doesn't kick someone from the channel unless
> they are currently trying to join said channel.  If they are already in
> there, it wouldn't have any effect.
>
> Stefan Funke <listuser@bundynet.de> also wrote:
> >
> >Don't think a remote kick is usefull in times where the normal user uses
> >these auto rejoin scripts. Later it will end in a kick/join flood. I
think
> >that if you would like someone to play OP give him/her the required
access
> >level.
> >
>
> I don't believe it would work that way.  It would be a normal kick as if a
> channel op used it.  If they needed to keep the user out they could set
> an A-Kick before issuing the kick command, which would curcomvent(sp)
> such a problem from ever happening.
>
> I personaly would like to see the idea implemented, perhaps as a level
> 10+ command by default.  Currently the only people that can use services
> to kick a user from a channel are services opers via OperServ.
>
> Kelmar K. Firesun
>
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From chee-erek at cheenetwork.com  Wed Dec 22 19:15:27 1999
From: chee-erek at cheenetwork.com (Chee-Erek)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ChanServ KICK command(?)
References: <002401bf4ceb$df214bb0$37526dd1@dragon.tiphares.com>
Message-ID: 002501bf4cf3$f6493520$1d4d0a18@cheenetwork.dhs.org

> Yes, but an A-Kick doesn't kick someone from the channel unless
> they are currently trying to join said channel.  If they are already in
> there, it wouldn't have any effect.
To my knowledge this is what there is for that:
/msg chanserv akick #channel enforce (i think thats the command)
Just issue that after setting the akick.

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From petra at loclnet.com  Wed Dec 22 20:23:02 1999
From: petra at loclnet.com (Matt Bradbury)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ChanServ KICK command(?)
References: <002401bf4ceb$df214bb0$37526dd1@dragon.tiphares.com> <000901bf4cf1$a1876ea0$56ba5e18@kc.rr.com>
Message-ID: 001101bf4cfd$6af2ff10$0964103f@REBEL2000

I am not that familiar with webTV but is it not true that if they don't have
any client commands they cannot /msg either? how do you plan to get around
that problem considering that services commands must be issued in /msg
format?  Just wandering

Matt Bradbury

----- Original Message -----
From: "Fuelie Admin" <Admin@fuelie.net>
To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] ChanServ KICK command(?)


> AS I SAID WEBTV
> webtv has no client commands so they need to use services to control their
> channel
> thinking of them i think the addition is a good idea
>
>
> Thank You,
>       Founder of http://www.Fuelie.Net
>  Fuelie.net Chat Network!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kelmar Firesun" <kfiresun@ix.netcom.com>
> To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 8:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] ChanServ KICK command(?)
>
>
> >
> > Nick Krassas <dreamer@darkness.gr> wrote:
> >
> > >Greetings all,
> > > one idea is that a user having access at one channel could easy
> > >put a akick to the user that is not wanted in the channel. a second
> > >reason, is the kick going to be anonymous ? and is this correct ?
> > >
> >
> >
> > Yes, but an A-Kick doesn't kick someone from the channel unless
> > they are currently trying to join said channel.  If they are already in
> > there, it wouldn't have any effect.
> >
> > Stefan Funke <listuser@bundynet.de> also wrote:
> > >
> > >Don't think a remote kick is usefull in times where the normal user
uses
> > >these auto rejoin scripts. Later it will end in a kick/join flood. I
> think
> > >that if you would like someone to play OP give him/her the required
> access
> > >level.
> > >
> >
> > I don't believe it would work that way.  It would be a normal kick as if
a
> > channel op used it.  If they needed to keep the user out they could set
> > an A-Kick before issuing the kick command, which would curcomvent(sp)
> > such a problem from ever happening.
> >
> > I personaly would like to see the idea implemented, perhaps as a level
> > 10+ command by default.  Currently the only people that can use services
> > to kick a user from a channel are services opers via OperServ.
> >
> > Kelmar K. Firesun
> >
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From n1uro at n1uro.com  Thu Dec 23 00:03:34 1999
From: n1uro at n1uro.com (Brian)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ChanServ KICK command(?)
Message-ID: m1213Di&#45;000alFC@www.n1uro.ampr.org

Greetings;

>It may come in usefull in cases where channel admins don't not want to give
>ops out to people, but want them to be able to remove users from the
>channel.
>
>Your input would be appreciated.

I seldom write to this list as I believe Andy and Andrew have both
done excellent jobs with services and they work well on my small (and hardly
used) network...however since an opinion was asked about the "Kick" feature
for a non-channel Op it is of my worthless opinion that it may be a useful
tool _if_ a channel founder and/or SOP could adjust the access list to allow
voiced users the right to manually kick an abusive user but no other 'op'
priviledges.

The madness behind my logic is this:

o Most voiced users end up becoming channel ops down the road
o Most voiced users are channel regulars
o Most voiced users are familiar enough with the channel founders rules/wishes
o Would be a good start in 'Op training' for a voiced user


Of course, with this idea you would probably wish to create two types of voiced
users...standard and super or something along those lines maybe.

Again just my worthless 'two cents'.

Happy Holidays to one and all!



73 de Brian



                                     UROWeb
                           CT TCPIP Coordinator 44.88/18      
                       Distribution and support site of MFNOS
                        ftp://ftp.n1uro.com/public/nos/mfnos
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From Admin at fuelie.net  Thu Dec 23 07:46:25 1999
From: Admin at fuelie.net (Fuelie Admin)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ChanServ KICK command(?)
References: <002401bf4ceb$df214bb0$37526dd1@dragon.tiphares.com> <000901bf4cf1$a1876ea0$56ba5e18@kc.rr.com> <001101bf4cfd$6af2ff10$0964103f@REBEL2000>
Message-ID: 000b01bf4d5c$dec2c6a0$56ba5e18@kc.rr.com

webtv has these client commands
/whois and /msg
a /who will show whois in a channel
and thats it


Thank You,
      Founder of http://www.Fuelie.Net
 Fuelie.net Chat Network!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Bradbury" <petra@loclnet.com>
To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] ChanServ KICK command(?)


> I am not that familiar with webTV but is it not true that if they don't
have
> any client commands they cannot /msg either? how do you plan to get around
> that problem considering that services commands must be issued in /msg
> format?  Just wandering
>
> Matt Bradbury
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fuelie Admin" <Admin@fuelie.net>
> To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 9:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] ChanServ KICK command(?)
>
>
> > AS I SAID WEBTV
> > webtv has no client commands so they need to use services to control
their
> > channel
> > thinking of them i think the addition is a good idea
> >
> >
> > Thank You,
> >       Founder of <A  HREF="http://www.Fuelie.Net">http://www.Fuelie.Net</A>
> >  Fuelie.net Chat Network!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kelmar Firesun" <kfiresun@ix.netcom.com>
> > To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 8:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: [IRCServices] ChanServ KICK command(?)
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Nick Krassas <dreamer@darkness.gr> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Greetings all,
> > > > one idea is that a user having access at one channel could easy
> > > >put a akick to the user that is not wanted in the channel. a second
> > > >reason, is the kick going to be anonymous ? and is this correct ?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, but an A-Kick doesn't kick someone from the channel unless
> > > they are currently trying to join said channel.  If they are already
in
> > > there, it wouldn't have any effect.
> > >
> > > Stefan Funke <listuser@bundynet.de> also wrote:
> > > >
> > > >Don't think a remote kick is usefull in times where the normal user
> uses
> > > >these auto rejoin scripts. Later it will end in a kick/join flood. I
> > think
> > > >that if you would like someone to play OP give him/her the required
> > access
> > > >level.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I don't believe it would work that way.  It would be a normal kick as
if
> a
> > > channel op used it.  If they needed to keep the user out they could
set
> > > an A-Kick before issuing the kick command, which would curcomvent(sp)
> > > such a problem from ever happening.
> > >
> > > I personaly would like to see the idea implemented, perhaps as a level
> > > 10+ command by default.  Currently the only people that can use
services
> > > to kick a user from a channel are services opers via OperServ.
> > >
> > > Kelmar K. Firesun
> > >
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From Admin at fuelie.net  Thu Dec 23 07:49:11 1999
From: Admin at fuelie.net (Fuelie Admin)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ChanServ KICK command(?)
References: <m1213Di-000alFC@www.n1uro.ampr.org>
Message-ID: 001101bf4d5d$4155c2e0$56ba5e18@kc.rr.com

Id also like to add that maybe a was in the config for services to be able
to be set as
either notice or MSG by default.
that would be nice also


Thank You,
      Founder of http://www.Fuelie.Net
 Fuelie.net Chat Network!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian" <n1uro@n1uro.com>
To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 2:03 AM
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] ChanServ KICK command(?)


> Greetings;
>
> >It may come in usefull in cases where channel admins don't not want to
give
> >ops out to people, but want them to be able to remove users from the
> >channel.
> >
> >Your input would be appreciated.
>
> I seldom write to this list as I believe Andy and Andrew have both
> done excellent jobs with services and they work well on my small (and
hardly
> used) network...however since an opinion was asked about the "Kick"
feature
> for a non-channel Op it is of my worthless opinion that it may be a useful
> tool _if_ a channel founder and/or SOP could adjust the access list to
allow
> voiced users the right to manually kick an abusive user but no other 'op'
> priviledges.
>
> The madness behind my logic is this:
>
> o Most voiced users end up becoming channel ops down the road
> o Most voiced users are channel regulars
> o Most voiced users are familiar enough with the channel founders
rules/wishes
> o Would be a good start in 'Op training' for a voiced user
>
>
> Of course, with this idea you would probably wish to create two types of
voiced
> users...standard and super or something along those lines maybe.
>
> Again just my worthless 'two cents'.
>
> Happy Holidays to one and all!
>
>
>
> 73 de Brian
>
>
>
>                                      UROWeb
>                            CT TCPIP Coordinator 44.88/18
>                        Distribution and support site of MFNOS
>                         <A  HREF="ftp://ftp.n1uro.com/public/nos/mfnos">ftp://ftp.n1uro.com/public/nos/mfnos</A>
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and
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From lebleu at prefer.net  Thu Dec 23 09:19:03 1999
From: lebleu at prefer.net (Kevin)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ChanServ KICK command(?)
In-Reply-To: <000b01bf4d5c$dec2c6a0$56ba5e18@kc.rr.com>
References: 000b01bf4d5c$dec2c6a0$56ba5e18@kc.rr.com
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.00.9912231116540.11928&#45;100000@hades.bleu.paganpaths.org

On Thu, 23 Dec 1999, Fuelie Admin wrote:

> webtv has these client commands
> /whois and /msg
> a /who will show whois in a channel
> and thats it

Excuse me... but I thought that webtv itself didn't run the irc client,
and that there were several different clients.  Might one of the other
places with webtv clients have a better command set?  Unfortunately, I
haven't noted down the address of any of the webTV irc pages. 

--Kevin

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From BeenJaminG at aol.com  Thu Dec 23 14:53:52 1999
From: BeenJaminG at aol.com (BeenJaminG@aol.com)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ChanServ KICK command(?)
Message-ID: 0.17066154.25940200@aol.com

In a message dated 12/22/99 10:27:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
Admin@fuelie.net writes:

> AS I SAID WEBTV
>  webtv has no client commands so they need to use services to control their
>  channel
>  thinking of them i think the addition is a good idea
>  
>  
I hope they have /quote.. 
As for everyone else, I don't think CS kick is really a needed
command. I guess if KICK was added, there would be a new
access level to allow use of the kick command? 
Keep in mind /kick by itself isn't that effective- and then
people would be asking for a ChanServ BAN command.

Just my thoughts on the subject.

- bstu
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From makero at 13g.dhs.org  Fri Dec 24 08:50:17 1999
From: makero at 13g.dhs.org (Makero)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
Message-ID: 19991224.16501773@gollo.13g.dhs.org

Hy

This is mi first eMail to this list. I hope to get some help because I 
have been working for 3 days around this problem, and I can't find any 
answer.

I'm running IRCDu2.9.x and de latest version of Services (yesterday 
downloaded from ircservices official web page, but i find the same 
problem with older versions)in a Linux RedHat 6.0. 

When I start services, every thing appears to be OK, but Chan says: 
\93cant change the modes of the channel because you have a problem with 
your U:line.\94

y made some changes in my U:line and then Chan go into the channel an 
becomes to say: \93This channel is registered with chan\94, \93This channel 
is registered with chan\94, \93This channel is registered with chan\94, 
\93This channel is registered with chan\94 hundreds and hundreds of times, 
until the IRC client crash.

I try this U:Lines:

U:my_ip:pass:my_host
U:my_ip:pass:my_ip
U:my_host:pass:my_host
U:my_host:pass:my_services_name

and some others.

I think than my problem is that I can't find the correct syntax of the 
U:Line. There is no so much info abut the U:Line in the ircd.conf.

Any idea??

Thankx

makero@13g.dhs.org




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From lebleu at prefer.net  Fri Dec 24 10:15:50 1999
From: lebleu at prefer.net (Kevin)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] ChanServ KICK command(?)
In-Reply-To: <0.17066154.25940200@aol.com>
References: 0.17066154.25940200@aol.com
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.00.9912241212080.10150&#45;100000@hades.bleu.paganpaths.org

On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 BeenJaminG@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 12/22/99 10:27:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
> Admin@fuelie.net writes:
> 
> > AS I SAID WEBTV webtv has no client commands so they need to use
> > services to control their channel thinking of them i think the
> > addition is a good idea

> I hope they have /quote.. 
> As for everyone else, I don't think CS kick is really a needed
> command. I guess if KICK was added, there would be a new
> access level to allow use of the kick command? 
> Keep in mind /kick by itself isn't that effective- and then
> people would be asking for a ChanServ BAN command.

ChanServ BAN command already exists.  It's called AKICK.  I've always
found it odd that ChanServ didn't have a KICK command... it's a fairly
simple thing to add, so perhaps a better question should be: what would it
*hurt* to add a KICK command?  The kick command should append the nick in
()s or something to the kick message, so it can't be used for anonymous
kicks.  Given that, what is the downside to adding a KICK command? 

My 2 cents,
            Kevin

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From joshodom at uswest.net  Thu Dec 23 23:48:10 1999
From: joshodom at uswest.net (Josh Odom)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
References: <19991224.16501773@gollo.13g.dhs.org>
Message-ID: 000b01bf4de3$3a41a9c0$7a69e1cf@shadowed

I had the same type of problem with EliteIRCD. The type of U:line the FAQ
described to use didn't work either. The only U:Line that I found to work
was
U:services.*.*:*:*
I'm not sure why even
U:services.network.com:*:*
didn't work...... Anyone else experience the same problem?

Josh Odom
PhazerIRC Network

----- Original Message -----
From: "Makero" <makero@13g.dhs.org>
To: "Makero" <makero@13g.dhs.org>; <ircservices@gp.school.za>
Sent: Friday, December 24, 1999 8:50 AM
Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly


> Hy
>
> This is mi first eMail to this list. I hope to get some help because I
> have been working for 3 days around this problem, and I can't find any
> answer.
>
> I'm running IRCDu2.9.x and de latest version of Services (yesterday
> downloaded from ircservices official web page, but i find the same
> problem with older versions)in a Linux RedHat 6.0.
>
> When I start services, every thing appears to be OK, but Chan says:
> "cant change the modes of the channel because you have a problem with
> your U:line."
>
> y made some changes in my U:line and then Chan go into the channel an
> becomes to say: "This channel is registered with chan", "This channel
> is registered with chan", "This channel is registered with chan",
> "This channel is registered with chan" hundreds and hundreds of times,
> until the IRC client crash.
>
> I try this U:Lines:
>
> U:my_ip:pass:my_host
> U:my_ip:pass:my_ip
> U:my_host:pass:my_host
> U:my_host:pass:my_services_name
>
> and some others.
>
> I think than my problem is that I can't find the correct syntax of the
> U:Line. There is no so much info abut the U:Line in the ircd.conf.
>
> Any idea??
>
> Thankx
>
> makero@13g.dhs.org
>
>
>
>
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From chriswh at cyberhighway.net  Fri Dec 24 15:50:47 1999
From: chriswh at cyberhighway.net (Chris)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
Message-ID: 199912242356.BAA16111@Ender.gp.school.za

I had this problem. It was also with EliteIRCD. Elite removed some kind of
services aliasing or something somewhere along the line, as it said
somewhere thast I don't remember. (Elite costs money now anyway so go with
Unreal. I don't know the Unreal site but after the discussion I was
involved in earlier about this on this list, I'm sure many people still
have that address. Go Unreal!)
Anyway, I'm not sure as to the exact cause, but I know it is VERY VERY
_ANNOYING_. I noticed that with some IRCDs, the config file requires that
U:Lines be in certain positions. Nowhere does it state this, but it's the
only way I have found it to work. Different ways with the different IRCDs.
I would try Josh's U:Line of 
U:services.*.*:*:*
If that doesn't help, and it should fix the problem, I don't know who else
to ask.

Just my thoughts, though pretty much restating what was already said
-Chris

----------
> From: Josh Odom <joshodom@uswest.net>
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
> Date: Friday, December 24, 1999 2:48 AM
> 
> I had the same type of problem with EliteIRCD. The type of U:line the FAQ
> described to use didn't work either. The only U:Line that I found to work
> was
> U:services.*.*:*:*
> I'm not sure why even
> U:services.network.com:*:*
> didn't work...... Anyone else experience the same problem?
> 
> Josh Odom
> PhazerIRC Network
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Makero" <makero@13g.dhs.org>
> To: "Makero" <makero@13g.dhs.org>; <ircservices@gp.school.za>
> Sent: Friday, December 24, 1999 8:50 AM
> Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
> 
> 
> > Hy
> >
> > This is mi first eMail to this list. I hope to get some help because I
> > have been working for 3 days around this problem, and I can't find any
> > answer.
> >
> > I'm running IRCDu2.9.x and de latest version of Services (yesterday
> > downloaded from ircservices official web page, but i find the same
> > problem with older versions)in a Linux RedHat 6.0.
> >
> > When I start services, every thing appears to be OK, but Chan says:
> > "cant change the modes of the channel because you have a problem with
> > your U:line."
> >
> > y made some changes in my U:line and then Chan go into the channel an
> > becomes to say: "This channel is registered with chan", "This channel
> > is registered with chan", "This channel is registered with chan",
> > "This channel is registered with chan" hundreds and hundreds of times,
> > until the IRC client crash.
> >
> > I try this U:Lines:
> >
> > U:my_ip:pass:my_host
> > U:my_ip:pass:my_ip
> > U:my_host:pass:my_host
> > U:my_host:pass:my_services_name
> >
> > and some others.
> >
> > I think than my problem is that I can't find the correct syntax of the
> > U:Line. There is no so much info abut the U:Line in the ircd.conf.
> >
> > Any idea??
> >
> > Thankx
> >
> > makero@13g.dhs.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org
> > with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes.
> >
> 
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From joshodom at uswest.net  Fri Dec 24 08:55:47 1999
From: joshodom at uswest.net (Josh Odom)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
References: <199912242356.BAA16111@Ender.gp.school.za>
Message-ID: 000701bf4e2f$ba8c2780$8c69e1cf@shadowed

Elite is Freeware now, but Unreal is still much better. The UnrealIRCD
website is:
http://toybox.flirt.org/~cmunk/unreal/
Happy Holidays Everyone.

Josh Odom
PhazerIRC Network
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris" <chriswh@cyberhighway.net>
To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Sent: Friday, December 24, 1999 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly


> I had this problem. It was also with EliteIRCD. Elite removed some kind of
> services aliasing or something somewhere along the line, as it said
> somewhere thast I don't remember. (Elite costs money now anyway so go with
> Unreal. I don't know the Unreal site but after the discussion I was
> involved in earlier about this on this list, I'm sure many people still
> have that address. Go Unreal!)
> Anyway, I'm not sure as to the exact cause, but I know it is VERY VERY
> _ANNOYING_. I noticed that with some IRCDs, the config file requires that
> U:Lines be in certain positions. Nowhere does it state this, but it's the
> only way I have found it to work. Different ways with the different IRCDs.
> I would try Josh's U:Line of
> U:services.*.*:*:*
> If that doesn't help, and it should fix the problem, I don't know who else
> to ask.
>
> Just my thoughts, though pretty much restating what was already said
> -Chris
>
> ----------
> > From: Josh Odom <joshodom@uswest.net>
> > To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> > Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
> > Date: Friday, December 24, 1999 2:48 AM
> >
> > I had the same type of problem with EliteIRCD. The type of U:line the
FAQ
> > described to use didn't work either. The only U:Line that I found to
work
> > was
> > U:services.*.*:*:*
> > I'm not sure why even
> > U:services.network.com:*:*
> > didn't work...... Anyone else experience the same problem?
> >
> > Josh Odom
> > PhazerIRC Network
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Makero" <makero@13g.dhs.org>
> > To: "Makero" <makero@13g.dhs.org>; <ircservices@gp.school.za>
> > Sent: Friday, December 24, 1999 8:50 AM
> > Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
> >
> >
> > > Hy
> > >
> > > This is mi first eMail to this list. I hope to get some help because I
> > > have been working for 3 days around this problem, and I can't find any
> > > answer.
> > >
> > > I'm running IRCDu2.9.x and de latest version of Services (yesterday
> > > downloaded from ircservices official web page, but i find the same
> > > problem with older versions)in a Linux RedHat 6.0.
> > >
> > > When I start services, every thing appears to be OK, but Chan says:
> > > "cant change the modes of the channel because you have a problem with
> > > your U:line."
> > >
> > > y made some changes in my U:line and then Chan go into the channel an
> > > becomes to say: "This channel is registered with chan", "This channel
> > > is registered with chan", "This channel is registered with chan",
> > > "This channel is registered with chan" hundreds and hundreds of times,
> > > until the IRC client crash.
> > >
> > > I try this U:Lines:
> > >
> > > U:my_ip:pass:my_host
> > > U:my_ip:pass:my_ip
> > > U:my_host:pass:my_host
> > > U:my_host:pass:my_services_name
> > >
> > > and some others.
> > >
> > > I think than my problem is that I can't find the correct syntax of the
> > > U:Line. There is no so much info abut the U:Line in the ircd.conf.
> > >
> > > Any idea??
> > >
> > > Thankx
> > >
> > > makero@13g.dhs.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org
> > > with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes.
> > >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------
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> > with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes.
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From atcarr at hotmail.com  Fri Dec 24 21:08:28 1999
From: atcarr at hotmail.com (Alan Carr)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
References: <19991224.16501773@gollo.13g.dhs.org>
Message-ID: 19991225050737.54279.qmail@hotmail.com

<SNIP>
When I start services, every thing appears to be OK, but Chan says:
"cant change the modes of the channel because you have a problem with
your U:line."

I try this U:Lines:

U:my_ip:pass:my_host
U:my_ip:pass:my_ip
U:my_host:pass:my_host
U:my_host:pass:my_services_name

and some others.
</SNIP>

The Proper U:line should be something like this:
U:services.yournetwork.net:*:*

That will allow services to work without a problem.

As for the comments about Elite and a problem with the U:line again this
works fine
If you are able to get a U:Line to work with Unreal IRCD then it will work
with Elite since Unreal is a Hybrid of Elite as per the site and server
information section.  The above addresses U:Line has always worked for me
including when I tested an elite coding and also Unreal.

The Phantom
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From Admin at fuelie.net  Fri Dec 24 22:51:59 1999
From: Admin at fuelie.net (Fuelie Admin)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
References: <199912242356.BAA16111@Ender.gp.school.za> <000701bf4e2f$ba8c2780$8c69e1cf@shadowed>
Message-ID: 000e01bf4ea4$8afcf560$56ba5e18@kc.rr.com

Im willing to pay for a scripted services like Unreal2.1.1  ircs ervies that
replies in MSG instead of notice  bt default
if anyone can quote me a price and do this task let meknow



Thank You,
      Founder of http://www.Fuelie.Net
 Fuelie.net Chat Network!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Josh Odom" <joshodom@uswest.net>
To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Sent: Friday, December 24, 1999 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly


> Elite is Freeware now, but Unreal is still much better. The UnrealIRCD
> website is:
> <A  HREF="http://toybox.flirt.org/~cmunk/unreal/">http://toybox.flirt.org/~cmunk/unreal/</A>
> Happy Holidays Everyone.
>
> Josh Odom
> PhazerIRC Network
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris" <chriswh@cyberhighway.net>
> To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 24, 1999 3:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
>
>
> > I had this problem. It was also with EliteIRCD. Elite removed some kind
of
> > services aliasing or something somewhere along the line, as it said
> > somewhere thast I don't remember. (Elite costs money now anyway so go
with
> > Unreal. I don't know the Unreal site but after the discussion I was
> > involved in earlier about this on this list, I'm sure many people still
> > have that address. Go Unreal!)
> > Anyway, I'm not sure as to the exact cause, but I know it is VERY VERY
> > _ANNOYING_. I noticed that with some IRCDs, the config file requires
that
> > U:Lines be in certain positions. Nowhere does it state this, but it's
the
> > only way I have found it to work. Different ways with the different
IRCDs.
> > I would try Josh's U:Line of
> > U:services.*.*:*:*
> > If that doesn't help, and it should fix the problem, I don't know who
else
> > to ask.
> >
> > Just my thoughts, though pretty much restating what was already said
> > -Chris
> >
> > ----------
> > > From: Josh Odom <joshodom@uswest.net>
> > > To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> > > Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
> > > Date: Friday, December 24, 1999 2:48 AM
> > >
> > > I had the same type of problem with EliteIRCD. The type of U:line the
> FAQ
> > > described to use didn't work either. The only U:Line that I found to
> work
> > > was
> > > U:services.*.*:*:*
> > > I'm not sure why even
> > > U:services.network.com:*:*
> > > didn't work...... Anyone else experience the same problem?
> > >
> > > Josh Odom
> > > PhazerIRC Network
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Makero" <makero@13g.dhs.org>
> > > To: "Makero" <makero@13g.dhs.org>; <ircservices@gp.school.za>
> > > Sent: Friday, December 24, 1999 8:50 AM
> > > Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hy
> > > >
> > > > This is mi first eMail to this list. I hope to get some help because
I
> > > > have been working for 3 days around this problem, and I can't find
any
> > > > answer.
> > > >
> > > > I'm running IRCDu2.9.x and de latest version of Services (yesterday
> > > > downloaded from ircservices official web page, but i find the same
> > > > problem with older versions)in a Linux RedHat 6.0.
> > > >
> > > > When I start services, every thing appears to be OK, but Chan says:
> > > > "cant change the modes of the channel because you have a problem
with
> > > > your U:line."
> > > >
> > > > y made some changes in my U:line and then Chan go into the channel
an
> > > > becomes to say: "This channel is registered with chan", "This
channel
> > > > is registered with chan", "This channel is registered with chan",
> > > > "This channel is registered with chan" hundreds and hundreds of
times,
> > > > until the IRC client crash.
> > > >
> > > > I try this U:Lines:
> > > >
> > > > U:my_ip:pass:my_host
> > > > U:my_ip:pass:my_ip
> > > > U:my_host:pass:my_host
> > > > U:my_host:pass:my_services_name
> > > >
> > > > and some others.
> > > >
> > > > I think than my problem is that I can't find the correct syntax of
the
> > > > U:Line. There is no so much info abut the U:Line in the ircd.conf.
> > > >
> > > > Any idea??
> > > >
> > > > Thankx
> > > >
> > > > makero@13g.dhs.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org
> > > > with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes.
> > > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes.
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
>
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From makero at 13g.dhs.org  Sat Dec 25 17:01:16 1999
From: makero at 13g.dhs.org (Makero)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
In-Reply-To: <19991225050737.54279.qmail@hotmail.com>
References: <19991224.16501773@gollo.13g.dhs.org> <19991225050737.54279.qmail@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: 19991226.1011641@gollo.13g.dhs.org

I try this:

U:services.mynet.org:*:*

and some many more U:Lines, an I always get the same error about the 
U:Line.

I think that my problem isn't in the U:Line. It must be in some other 
place.

If any one wants to take a look, you can find my ircd.conf and 
services.conf at:

http://13g.dhs.org/services.txt
<A  HREF="http://13g.dhs.org/ircd.txt">http://13g.dhs.org/ircd.txt</A>

ircu2.9.32
services4.3.3
RedHat 6.0

any help will be appreciated.

makero@13g.dhs.org

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mensaje original <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

El 25/12/99, 6:08:28, "Alan Carr" <atcarr@hotmail.com> escribió sobre el 
tema Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly:


> <SNIP>
> When I start services, every thing appears to be OK, but Chan says:
> "cant change the modes of the channel because you have a problem with
> your U:line."

> I try this U:Lines:

> U:my_ip:pass:my_host
> U:my_ip:pass:my_ip
> U:my_host:pass:my_host
> U:my_host:pass:my_services_name

> and some others.
> </SNIP>

> The Proper U:line should be something like this:
> U:services.yournetwork.net:*:*

> That will allow services to work without a problem.

> As for the comments about Elite and a problem with the U:line again 
this
> works fine
> If you are able to get a U:Line to work with Unreal IRCD then it will 
work
> with Elite since Unreal is a Hybrid of Elite as per the site and 
server
> information section.  The above addresses U:Line has always worked for 
me
> including when I tested an elite coding and also Unreal.

> The Phantom



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From n1uro at n1uro.com  Sat Dec 25 18:40:10 1999
From: n1uro at n1uro.com (Brian)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
Message-ID: m1223bO&#45;000alFC@www.n1uro.ampr.org

Greetings;

>I try this:
>
>U:services.mynet.org:*:*
>
>and some many more U:Lines, an I always get the same error about the 
>U:Line.

Here's from my IRCD.CONF file which is last dreamforge dalnet ircd I run on
debian linux 2.0.36:

# U: [OPTIONAL]. This line defines the servers that IRC recognizes as being
# allowed to make various changes to the IRC environment (mode changes, for
# example), without complaining or otherwise obstructing them. For example,
# DALnet requires the following line:
U:services.n1uro.ampr.org:*:*
U:www.n1uro.ampr.org:*:*
U:irc.n1uro.ampr.org:*:*
#

I have found if you're using CNAMEs for dns on the same box that's hosting
services, it's best to include the A record as well as your CNAME records
from DNS into your U: line for it to be happy.

Hope this helps.


73 de Brian



                                     UROWeb
                           CT TCPIP Coordinator 44.88/18      
                       Distribution and support site of MFNOS
                        ftp://ftp.n1uro.com/public/nos/mfnos
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                         network technologies since 11/1999
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From joshodom at uswest.net  Sat Dec 25 06:41:26 1999
From: joshodom at uswest.net (Josh Odom)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
References: <19991224.16501773@gollo.13g.dhs.org> <19991225050737.54279.qmail@hotmail.com> <19991226.1011641@gollo.13g.dhs.org>
Message-ID: 000501bf4ee6$20363010$70ada0d8@shadowed

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm......

Have you tried any other IRCDs?

Josh
----- Original Message -----
From: "Makero" <makero@13g.dhs.org>
To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 25, 1999 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly


> I try this:
>
> U:services.mynet.org:*:*
>
> and some many more U:Lines, an I always get the same error about the
> U:Line.
>
> I think that my problem isn't in the U:Line. It must be in some other
> place.
>
> If any one wants to take a look, you can find my ircd.conf and
> services.conf at:
>
> http://13g.dhs.org/services.txt
> <A  HREF="http://13g.dhs.org/ircd.txt">http://13g.dhs.org/ircd.txt</A>
>
> ircu2.9.32
> services4.3.3
> RedHat 6.0
>
> any help will be appreciated.
>
> makero@13g.dhs.org
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mensaje original <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
> El 25/12/99, 6:08:28, "Alan Carr" <atcarr@hotmail.com> escribió sobre el
> tema Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly:
>
>
> > <SNIP>
> > When I start services, every thing appears to be OK, but Chan says:
> > "cant change the modes of the channel because you have a problem with
> > your U:line."
>
> > I try this U:Lines:
>
> > U:my_ip:pass:my_host
> > U:my_ip:pass:my_ip
> > U:my_host:pass:my_host
> > U:my_host:pass:my_services_name
>
> > and some others.
> > </SNIP>
>
> > The Proper U:line should be something like this:
> > U:services.yournetwork.net:*:*
>
> > That will allow services to work without a problem.
>
> > As for the comments about Elite and a problem with the U:line again
> this
> > works fine
> > If you are able to get a U:Line to work with Unreal IRCD then it will
> work
> > with Elite since Unreal is a Hybrid of Elite as per the site and
> server
> > information section.  The above addresses U:Line has always worked for
> me
> > including when I tested an elite coding and also Unreal.
>
> > The Phantom
>
>
>
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From epaul at spellbook.net  Sat Dec 25 18:16:14 1999
From: epaul at spellbook.net (Eric Paul)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Patch for ircu-2.10.x?
Message-ID: 4.2.0.58.19991225211457.009b2ea0@spellbook.net

Has anyone gotten Services working with the 2.10 rev of Undernet ircd?  I 
tried poking around with it, but no luck.

Eric
---
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SpellBook Systems
http://www.spellbook.net
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From atcarr at hotmail.com  Sat Dec 25 18:59:26 1999
From: atcarr at hotmail.com (Alan Carr)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
References: <199912242356.BAA16111@Ender.gp.school.za> <000701bf4e2f$ba8c2780$8c69e1cf@shadowed> <000e01bf4ea4$8afcf560$56ba5e18@kc.rr.com>
Message-ID: 19991226025923.24971.qmail@hotmail.com

try removing this line since the config file is read from bottom to top this
line is read and accepted before the correct writing of the line above it.

U:*:*:CService.13g.dhs.org

----- Original Message -----
From: "Fuelie Admin" <Admin@fuelie.net>
To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Sent: Saturday, 25 December, 1999 01:51
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly


> Im willing to pay for a scripted services like Unreal2.1.1  ircs ervies
that
> replies in MSG instead of notice  bt default
> if anyone can quote me a price and do this task let meknow
>
>
>
> Thank You,
>       Founder of http://www.Fuelie.Net
>  Fuelie.net Chat Network!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Josh Odom" <joshodom@uswest.net>
> To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 24, 1999 10:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
>
>
> > Elite is Freeware now, but Unreal is still much better. The UnrealIRCD
> > website is:
> > <A  HREF="http://toybox.flirt.org/~cmunk/unreal/">http://toybox.flirt.org/~cmunk/unreal/</A>
> > Happy Holidays Everyone.
> >
> > Josh Odom
> > PhazerIRC Network
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chris" <chriswh@cyberhighway.net>
> > To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
> > Sent: Friday, December 24, 1999 3:50 PM
> > Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
> >
> >
> > > I had this problem. It was also with EliteIRCD. Elite removed some
kind
> of
> > > services aliasing or something somewhere along the line, as it said
> > > somewhere thast I don't remember. (Elite costs money now anyway so go
> with
> > > Unreal. I don't know the Unreal site but after the discussion I was
> > > involved in earlier about this on this list, I'm sure many people
still
> > > have that address. Go Unreal!)
> > > Anyway, I'm not sure as to the exact cause, but I know it is VERY VERY
> > > _ANNOYING_. I noticed that with some IRCDs, the config file requires
> that
> > > U:Lines be in certain positions. Nowhere does it state this, but it's
> the
> > > only way I have found it to work. Different ways with the different
> IRCDs.
> > > I would try Josh's U:Line of
> > > U:services.*.*:*:*
> > > If that doesn't help, and it should fix the problem, I don't know who
> else
> > > to ask.
> > >
> > > Just my thoughts, though pretty much restating what was already said
> > > -Chris
> > >
> > > ----------
> > > > From: Josh Odom <joshodom@uswest.net>
> > > > To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
> > > > Date: Friday, December 24, 1999 2:48 AM
> > > >
> > > > I had the same type of problem with EliteIRCD. The type of U:line
the
> > FAQ
> > > > described to use didn't work either. The only U:Line that I found to
> > work
> > > > was
> > > > U:services.*.*:*:*
> > > > I'm not sure why even
> > > > U:services.network.com:*:*
> > > > didn't work...... Anyone else experience the same problem?
> > > >
> > > > Josh Odom
> > > > PhazerIRC Network
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Makero" <makero@13g.dhs.org>
> > > > To: "Makero" <makero@13g.dhs.org>; <ircservices@gp.school.za>
> > > > Sent: Friday, December 24, 1999 8:50 AM
> > > > Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hy
> > > > >
> > > > > This is mi first eMail to this list. I hope to get some help
because
> I
> > > > > have been working for 3 days around this problem, and I can't find
> any
> > > > > answer.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm running IRCDu2.9.x and de latest version of Services
(yesterday
> > > > > downloaded from ircservices official web page, but i find the same
> > > > > problem with older versions)in a Linux RedHat 6.0.
> > > > >
> > > > > When I start services, every thing appears to be OK, but Chan
says:
> > > > > "cant change the modes of the channel because you have a problem
> with
> > > > > your U:line."
> > > > >
> > > > > y made some changes in my U:line and then Chan go into the channel
> an
> > > > > becomes to say: "This channel is registered with chan", "This
> channel
> > > > > is registered with chan", "This channel is registered with chan",
> > > > > "This channel is registered with chan" hundreds and hundreds of
> times,
> > > > > until the IRC client crash.
> > > > >
> > > > > I try this U:Lines:
> > > > >
> > > > > U:my_ip:pass:my_host
> > > > > U:my_ip:pass:my_ip
> > > > > U:my_host:pass:my_host
> > > > > U:my_host:pass:my_services_name
> > > > >
> > > > > and some others.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think than my problem is that I can't find the correct syntax of
> the
> > > > > U:Line. There is no so much info abut the U:Line in the ircd.conf.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any idea??
> > > > >
> > > > > Thankx
> > > > >
> > > > > makero@13g.dhs.org
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > > with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes.
> > > > >
> > > >
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From muerte22 at hotmail.com  Sat Dec 25 23:49:21 1999
From: muerte22 at hotmail.com (Angel of Death)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
Message-ID: 19991226074921.16845.qmail@hotmail.com

Elite has released 3.0 and it's no longer costing money. Unreal is a rip of 
an old version of Elite2.1.  The coder to Elite works/runs a server on my 
network. IF there's any questions or comments about the EliteIRCD they are 
welcome to swing by and drop them off. irc.acestar.org  We are working on 
weeding out the services U line flaw. It's more of an annoyance than 
anything cause it doesn't actually stop anything from working.

Muerte


>From: "Chris" <chriswh@cyberhighway.net>
>Reply-To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
>To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
>Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
>Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 18:50:47 -0500
>
>I had this problem. It was also with EliteIRCD. Elite removed some kind of
>services aliasing or something somewhere along the line, as it said
>somewhere thast I don't remember. (Elite costs money now anyway so go with
>Unreal. I don't know the Unreal site but after the discussion I was
>involved in earlier about this on this list, I'm sure many people still
>have that address. Go Unreal!)
>Anyway, I'm not sure as to the exact cause, but I know it is VERY VERY
>_ANNOYING_. I noticed that with some IRCDs, the config file requires that
>U:Lines be in certain positions. Nowhere does it state this, but it's the
>only way I have found it to work. Different ways with the different IRCDs.
>I would try Josh's U:Line of
>U:services.*.*:*:*
>If that doesn't help, and it should fix the problem, I don't know who else
>to ask.
>
>Just my thoughts, though pretty much restating what was already said
>-Chris
>
>----------
> > From: Josh Odom <joshodom@uswest.net>
> > To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> > Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
> > Date: Friday, December 24, 1999 2:48 AM
> >
> > I had the same type of problem with EliteIRCD. The type of U:line the 
>FAQ
> > described to use didn't work either. The only U:Line that I found to 
>work
> > was
> > U:services.*.*:*:*
> > I'm not sure why even
> > U:services.network.com:*:*
> > didn't work...... Anyone else experience the same problem?
> >
> > Josh Odom
> > PhazerIRC Network
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Makero" <makero@13g.dhs.org>
> > To: "Makero" <makero@13g.dhs.org>; <ircservices@gp.school.za>
> > Sent: Friday, December 24, 1999 8:50 AM
> > Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
> >
> >
> > > Hy
> > >
> > > This is mi first eMail to this list. I hope to get some help because I
> > > have been working for 3 days around this problem, and I can't find any
> > > answer.
> > >
> > > I'm running IRCDu2.9.x and de latest version of Services (yesterday
> > > downloaded from ircservices official web page, but i find the same
> > > problem with older versions)in a Linux RedHat 6.0.
> > >
> > > When I start services, every thing appears to be OK, but Chan says:
> > > "cant change the modes of the channel because you have a problem with
> > > your U:line."
> > >
> > > y made some changes in my U:line and then Chan go into the channel an
> > > becomes to say: "This channel is registered with chan", "This channel
> > > is registered with chan", "This channel is registered with chan",
> > > "This channel is registered with chan" hundreds and hundreds of times,
> > > until the IRC client crash.
> > >
> > > I try this U:Lines:
> > >
> > > U:my_ip:pass:my_host
> > > U:my_ip:pass:my_ip
> > > U:my_host:pass:my_host
> > > U:my_host:pass:my_services_name
> > >
> > > and some others.
> > >
> > > I think than my problem is that I can't find the correct syntax of the
> > > U:Line. There is no so much info abut the U:Line in the ircd.conf.
> > >
> > > Any idea??
> > >
> > > Thankx
> > >
> > > makero@13g.dhs.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org
> > > with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes.
> > >
> >
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From chriswh at cyberhighway.net  Sun Dec 26 05:27:24 1999
From: chriswh at cyberhighway.net (Chris)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
Message-ID: 199912261359.PAA32132@Ender.gp.school.za

My apologies to Potvin. (if he's stil the one making them as I'm sure he
is) I didn't know it was now back to normal.
I prefered Elite until the price thing, but services never worked well. I'm
glad they're moving to fix this. My greets to Potvin and my apologies.

-Chris

----------
> From: Angel of Death <muerte22@hotmail.com>
> To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
> Date: Sunday, December 26, 1999 2:49 AM
> 
> Elite has released 3.0 and it's no longer costing money. Unreal is a rip
of 
> an old version of Elite2.1.  The coder to Elite works/runs a server on my

> network. IF there's any questions or comments about the EliteIRCD they
are 
> welcome to swing by and drop them off. irc.acestar.org  We are working on

> weeding out the services U line flaw. It's more of an annoyance than 
> anything cause it doesn't actually stop anything from working.
> 
> Muerte
> 
> 
> >From: "Chris" <chriswh@cyberhighway.net>
> >Reply-To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> >To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
> >Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
> >Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 18:50:47 -0500
> >
> >I had this problem. It was also with EliteIRCD. Elite removed some kind
of
> >services aliasing or something somewhere along the line, as it said
> >somewhere thast I don't remember. (Elite costs money now anyway so go
with
> >Unreal. I don't know the Unreal site but after the discussion I was
> >involved in earlier about this on this list, I'm sure many people still
> >have that address. Go Unreal!)
> >Anyway, I'm not sure as to the exact cause, but I know it is VERY VERY
> >_ANNOYING_. I noticed that with some IRCDs, the config file requires
that
> >U:Lines be in certain positions. Nowhere does it state this, but it's
the
> >only way I have found it to work. Different ways with the different
IRCDs.
> >I would try Josh's U:Line of
> >U:services.*.*:*:*
> >If that doesn't help, and it should fix the problem, I don't know who
else
> >to ask.
> >
> >Just my thoughts, though pretty much restating what was already said
> >-Chris
> >
> >----------
> > > From: Josh Odom <joshodom@uswest.net>
> > > To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> > > Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
> > > Date: Friday, December 24, 1999 2:48 AM
> > >
> > > I had the same type of problem with EliteIRCD. The type of U:line the

> >FAQ
> > > described to use didn't work either. The only U:Line that I found to 
> >work
> > > was
> > > U:services.*.*:*:*
> > > I'm not sure why even
> > > U:services.network.com:*:*
> > > didn't work...... Anyone else experience the same problem?
> > >
> > > Josh Odom
> > > PhazerIRC Network
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Makero" <makero@13g.dhs.org>
> > > To: "Makero" <makero@13g.dhs.org>; <ircservices@gp.school.za>
> > > Sent: Friday, December 24, 1999 8:50 AM
> > > Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hy
> > > >
> > > > This is mi first eMail to this list. I hope to get some help
because I
> > > > have been working for 3 days around this problem, and I can't find
any
> > > > answer.
> > > >
> > > > I'm running IRCDu2.9.x and de latest version of Services (yesterday
> > > > downloaded from ircservices official web page, but i find the same
> > > > problem with older versions)in a Linux RedHat 6.0.
> > > >
> > > > When I start services, every thing appears to be OK, but Chan says:
> > > > "cant change the modes of the channel because you have a problem
with
> > > > your U:line."
> > > >
> > > > y made some changes in my U:line and then Chan go into the channel
an
> > > > becomes to say: "This channel is registered with chan", "This
channel
> > > > is registered with chan", "This channel is registered with chan",
> > > > "This channel is registered with chan" hundreds and hundreds of
times,
> > > > until the IRC client crash.
> > > >
> > > > I try this U:Lines:
> > > >
> > > > U:my_ip:pass:my_host
> > > > U:my_ip:pass:my_ip
> > > > U:my_host:pass:my_host
> > > > U:my_host:pass:my_services_name
> > > >
> > > > and some others.
> > > >
> > > > I think than my problem is that I can't find the correct syntax of
the
> > > > U:Line. There is no so much info abut the U:Line in the ircd.conf.
> > > >
> > > > Any idea??
> > > >
> > > > Thankx
> > > >
> > > > makero@13g.dhs.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@ender.shadowfire.org
> > > > with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes.
> > > >
> > >
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From cgknipe at mweb.co.za  Sun Dec 26 04:46:23 1999
From: cgknipe at mweb.co.za (Chris Knipe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
References: <199912242356.BAA16111@Ender.gp.school.za><000701bf4e2f$ba8c2780$8c69e1cf@shadowed> <000e01bf4ea4$8afcf560$56ba5e18@kc.rr.com>
Message-ID: 000101bf4fac$c3f8b990$0201a8c0@savage.za.org

Hi...

Not wanting to break your bubble or anything, but go look at the source code
of the services, more precisely, for the s_notice and s_lang functions....
(I think they are in some include file)

Change the NOTICE: line to PRIVMSG: and just about 90% of the stuff will be
in private messages... its one line of code to change!!!

(and no, I don't have the time to do it for you)

Regards
Chris

----- Original Message -----
From: "Fuelie Admin" <Admin@fuelie.net>
To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Sent: 25 December 1999 08:51
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly


> Im willing to pay for a scripted services like Unreal2.1.1  ircs ervies
that
> replies in MSG instead of notice  bt default
> if anyone can quote me a price and do this task let meknow
>
>
>
> Thank You,
>       Founder of http://www.Fuelie.Net
>  Fuelie.net Chat Network!


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From makero at 13g.dhs.org  Sun Dec 26 07:42:01 1999
From: makero at 13g.dhs.org (Makero)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
Message-ID: 19991226.15420166@gollo.13g.dhs.org

Thanks for the answers, but no one works.

Does anybody have running together ircu2.9.35 and services???

how does your U:Line is??

I tried all the U:Lines you send to the list, but I get always the 
same error: \93unable to set modes on channel #cannel. Are your U:lines 
configure correctly?\94. Everything else works fine.

i tried Elite3.0 and is so slow, and when yo send a /msg chan help o 
warever other command, Chan said: \93Internal error - unable to process 
request\94.

Of course, I have compiled services using the urcu2.9.x option in the 
./configure script, and I suppose that this is the problem, but I 
can't find any Eite option. How do I compile Services to work 
correctly whit Elite3.0?

Thanks

makero@13g.dhs.org



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From joshodom at uswest.net  Sat Dec 25 21:16:30 1999
From: joshodom at uswest.net (Josh Odom)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
References: <19991226.15420166@gollo.13g.dhs.org>
Message-ID: 001201bf4f60$5ed782e0$b6f0b4d1@shadowed

Make sure you select the right IRCD in the configure script, The last option
I believe for the newest dal.

Josh Odom
Phazer IRC Network
----- Original Message -----
From: "Makero" <makero@13g.dhs.org>
To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 7:42 AM
Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly


> Thanks for the answers, but no one works.
>
> Does anybody have running together ircu2.9.35 and services???
>
> how does your U:Line is??
>
> I tried all the U:Lines you send to the list, but I get always the
> same error: "unable to set modes on channel #cannel. Are your U:lines
> configure correctly?". Everything else works fine.
>
> i tried Elite3.0 and is so slow, and when yo send a /msg chan help o
> warever other command, Chan said: "Internal error - unable to process
> request".
>
> Of course, I have compiled services using the urcu2.9.x option in the
> ./configure script, and I suppose that this is the problem, but I
> can't find any Eite option. How do I compile Services to work
> correctly whit Elite3.0?
>
> Thanks
>
> makero@13g.dhs.org
>
>
>
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From makero at 13g.dhs.org  Sun Dec 26 09:47:02 1999
From: makero at 13g.dhs.org (Makero)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
In-Reply-To: <001201bf4f60$5ed782e0$b6f0b4d1@shadowed>
References: <19991226.15420166@gollo.13g.dhs.org> <001201bf4f60$5ed782e0$b6f0b4d1@shadowed>
Message-ID: 19991226.17470207@gollo.13g.dhs.org

IT WORKS !!!!!!!!!

Thanks to everybody!!!!!!!!

now i'm running Elite 3.0 and services, and its appears to works fine.

If antibody wants, our irc is running in 13g.dhs.org. We speak 
spanish, but everybody is welcome.

Tanks

makero@13g.ds.org

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mensaje original <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

El 26/12/99, 6:16:30, "Josh Odom" <joshodom@uswest.net> escribió sobre 
el tema Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly:


> Make sure you select the right IRCD in the configure script, The last 
option
> I believe for the newest dal.

> Josh Odom
> Phazer IRC Network
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Makero" <makero@13g.dhs.org>
> To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 7:42 AM
> Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly


> > Thanks for the answers, but no one works.
> >
> > Does anybody have running together ircu2.9.35 and services???
> >
> > how does your U:Line is??
> >
> > I tried all the U:Lines you send to the list, but I get always the
> > same error: "unable to set modes on channel #cannel. Are your U:lines
> > configure correctly?". Everything else works fine.
> >
> > i tried Elite3.0 and is so slow, and when yo send a /msg chan help o
> > warever other command, Chan said: "Internal error - unable to process
> > request".
> >
> > Of course, I have compiled services using the urcu2.9.x option in the
> > ./configure script, and I suppose that this is the problem, but I
> > can't find any Eite option. How do I compile Services to work
> > correctly whit Elite3.0?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > makero@13g.dhs.org
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------
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> > with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes.
> >

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From muerte22 at hotmail.com  Sun Dec 26 10:31:14 1999
From: muerte22 at hotmail.com (Angel of Death)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
Message-ID: 19991226183114.73768.qmail@hotmail.com

I'm sure he won't take offense and i'll be getting with him about fixing the 
services bug.  We at AceStar do beta testing for the new IRCD's from Elite 
and are working on version 3.1 at this time.  He's been busy so I don't know 
the turn around time of the release but a few features have already been 
added.

Muerte

>From: "Chris" <chriswh@cyberhighway.net>
>Reply-To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
>To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
>Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
>Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 08:27:24 -0500
>
>My apologies to Potvin. (if he's stil the one making them as I'm sure he
>is) I didn't know it was now back to normal.
>I prefered Elite until the price thing, but services never worked well. I'm
>glad they're moving to fix this. My greets to Potvin and my apologies.
>
>-Chris
>
>----------
> > From: Angel of Death <muerte22@hotmail.com>
> > To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> > Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
> > Date: Sunday, December 26, 1999 2:49 AM
> >
> > Elite has released 3.0 and it's no longer costing money. Unreal is a rip
>of
> > an old version of Elite2.1.  The coder to Elite works/runs a server on 
>my
>
> > network. IF there's any questions or comments about the EliteIRCD they
>are
> > welcome to swing by and drop them off. irc.acestar.org  We are working 
>on
>
> > weeding out the services U line flaw. It's more of an annoyance than
> > anything cause it doesn't actually stop anything from working.
> >
> > Muerte
> >
> >
> > >From: "Chris" <chriswh@cyberhighway.net>
> > >Reply-To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> > >To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
> > >Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
> > >Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 18:50:47 -0500
> > >
> > >I had this problem. It was also with EliteIRCD. Elite removed some kind
>of
> > >services aliasing or something somewhere along the line, as it said
> > >somewhere thast I don't remember. (Elite costs money now anyway so go
>with
> > >Unreal. I don't know the Unreal site but after the discussion I was
> > >involved in earlier about this on this list, I'm sure many people still
> > >have that address. Go Unreal!)
> > >Anyway, I'm not sure as to the exact cause, but I know it is VERY VERY
> > >_ANNOYING_. I noticed that with some IRCDs, the config file requires
>that
> > >U:Lines be in certain positions. Nowhere does it state this, but it's
>the
> > >only way I have found it to work. Different ways with the different
>IRCDs.
> > >I would try Josh's U:Line of
> > >U:services.*.*:*:*
> > >If that doesn't help, and it should fix the problem, I don't know who
>else
> > >to ask.
> > >
> > >Just my thoughts, though pretty much restating what was already said
> > >-Chris
> > >
> > >----------
> > > > From: Josh Odom <joshodom@uswest.net>
> > > > To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
> > > > Date: Friday, December 24, 1999 2:48 AM
> > > >
> > > > I had the same type of problem with EliteIRCD. The type of U:line 
>the
>
> > >FAQ
> > > > described to use didn't work either. The only U:Line that I found to
> > >work
> > > > was
> > > > U:services.*.*:*:*
> > > > I'm not sure why even
> > > > U:services.network.com:*:*
> > > > didn't work...... Anyone else experience the same problem?
> > > >
> > > > Josh Odom
> > > > PhazerIRC Network
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Makero" <makero@13g.dhs.org>
> > > > To: "Makero" <makero@13g.dhs.org>; <ircservices@gp.school.za>
> > > > Sent: Friday, December 24, 1999 8:50 AM
> > > > Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hy
> > > > >
> > > > > This is mi first eMail to this list. I hope to get some help
>because I
> > > > > have been working for 3 days around this problem, and I can't find
>any
> > > > > answer.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm running IRCDu2.9.x and de latest version of Services 
>(yesterday
> > > > > downloaded from ircservices official web page, but i find the same
> > > > > problem with older versions)in a Linux RedHat 6.0.
> > > > >
> > > > > When I start services, every thing appears to be OK, but Chan 
>says:
> > > > > "cant change the modes of the channel because you have a problem
>with
> > > > > your U:line."
> > > > >
> > > > > y made some changes in my U:line and then Chan go into the channel
>an
> > > > > becomes to say: "This channel is registered with chan", "This
>channel
> > > > > is registered with chan", "This channel is registered with chan",
> > > > > "This channel is registered with chan" hundreds and hundreds of
>times,
> > > > > until the IRC client crash.
> > > > >
> > > > > I try this U:Lines:
> > > > >
> > > > > U:my_ip:pass:my_host
> > > > > U:my_ip:pass:my_ip
> > > > > U:my_host:pass:my_host
> > > > > U:my_host:pass:my_services_name
> > > > >
> > > > > and some others.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think than my problem is that I can't find the correct syntax of
>the
> > > > > U:Line. There is no so much info abut the U:Line in the ircd.conf.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any idea??
> > > > >
> > > > > Thankx
> > > > >
> > > > > makero@13g.dhs.org
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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From muerte22 at hotmail.com  Sun Dec 26 10:33:17 1999
From: muerte22 at hotmail.com (Angel of Death)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
Message-ID: 19991226183317.7756.qmail@hotmail.com

Elite is derived originally from DALnet IRCD. so use the DAL .15 version 
when you are setting up for services.

Muerte
/server irc.acestar.org

>From: Makero <makero@13g.dhs.org>
>Reply-To: ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org
>To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
>Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
>Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 15:42:01 GMT
>
>Thanks for the answers, but no one works.
>
>Does anybody have running together ircu2.9.35 and services???
>
>how does your U:Line is??
>
>I tried all the U:Lines you send to the list, but I get always the
>same error: \93unable to set modes on channel #cannel. Are your U:lines
>configure correctly?\94. Everything else works fine.
>
>i tried Elite3.0 and is so slow, and when yo send a /msg chan help o
>warever other command, Chan said: \93Internal error - unable to process
>request\94.
>
>Of course, I have compiled services using the urcu2.9.x option in the
>./configure script, and I suppose that this is the problem, but I
>can't find any Eite option. How do I compile Services to work
>correctly whit Elite3.0?
>
>Thanks
>
>makero@13g.dhs.org
>
>
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From Admin at fuelie.net  Sun Dec 26 10:54:00 1999
From: Admin at fuelie.net (Fuelie Admin)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] Making Services Reply in MSG rather then Notice
References: <199912242356.BAA16111@Ender.gp.school.za><000701bf4e2f$ba8c2780$8c69e1cf@shadowed> <000e01bf4ea4$8afcf560$56ba5e18@kc.rr.com> <000101bf4fac$c3f8b990$0201a8c0@savage.za.org>
Message-ID: 000d01bf4fd2$924e6180$56ba5e18@kc.rr.com

anyone know where this is at that needs to be changed?


Thank You,
      Founder of http://www.Fuelie.Net
 Fuelie.net Chat Network!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Knipe" <cgknipe@mweb.co.za>
To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly


> Hi...
>
> Not wanting to break your bubble or anything, but go look at the source
code
> of the services, more precisely, for the s_notice and s_lang functions....
> (I think they are in some include file)
>
> Change the NOTICE: line to PRIVMSG: and just about 90% of the stuff will
be
> in private messages... its one line of code to change!!!
>
> (and no, I don't have the time to do it for you)
>
> Regards
> Chris
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fuelie Admin" <Admin@fuelie.net>
> To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
> Sent: 25 December 1999 08:51
> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
>
>
> > Im willing to pay for a scripted services like Unreal2.1.1  ircs ervies
> that
> > replies in MSG instead of notice  bt default
> > if anyone can quote me a price and do this task let meknow
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank You,
> >       Founder of <A  HREF="http://www.Fuelie.Net">http://www.Fuelie.Net</A>
> >  Fuelie.net Chat Network!
>
>
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From v13 at it.teithe.gr  Sun Dec 26 15:39:43 1999
From: v13 at it.teithe.gr (Harhalakis Stefanos)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
In-Reply-To: <000101bf4fac$c3f8b990$0201a8c0@savage.za.org>
References: 000101bf4fac$c3f8b990$0201a8c0@savage.za.org
Message-ID: Pine.SGI.4.05.9912270136380.26203&#45;100000@aetos.it.teithe.gr


>From RFC1459:

   The NOTICE message is used similarly to PRIVMSG.  The difference
   between NOTICE and PRIVMSG is that automatic replies must never be
   sent in response to a NOTICE message.  This rule applies to servers
   too - they must not send any error reply back to the client on
   receipt of a notice.  The object of this rule is to avoid loops
   between a client automatically sending something in response to
   something it received.  This is typically used by automatons (clients
   with either an AI or other interactive program controlling their
   actions) which are always seen to be replying lest they end up in a
   loop with another automaton.

I think that replacing PRIVMSGs with NOTICEs in services will create
much more problems that it may solve.

<<V13>>

On Sun, 26 Dec 1999, Chris Knipe wrote:

> Hi...
> 
> Not wanting to break your bubble or anything, but go look at the source code
> of the services, more precisely, for the s_notice and s_lang functions....
> (I think they are in some include file)
> 
> Change the NOTICE: line to PRIVMSG: and just about 90% of the stuff will be
> in private messages... its one line of code to change!!!
> 
> (and no, I don't have the time to do it for you)
> 
> Regards
> Chris
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fuelie Admin" <Admin@fuelie.net>
> To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
> Sent: 25 December 1999 08:51
> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
> 
> 
> > Im willing to pay for a scripted services like Unreal2.1.1  ircs ervies
> that
> > replies in MSG instead of notice  bt default
> > if anyone can quote me a price and do this task let meknow
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank You,
> >       Founder of http://www.Fuelie.Net
> >  Fuelie.net Chat Network!
> 
> 
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From Admin at fuelie.net  Sun Dec 26 19:06:07 1999
From: Admin at fuelie.net (Fuelie Admin)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
References: <Pine.SGI.4.05.9912270136380.26203-100000@aetos.it.teithe.gr>
Message-ID: 000501bf5017$51e81f60$56ba5e18@kc.rr.com

As this is so WEBTV cant see notice which is faulting some irc networks from
getting webtv clients on the servers..
Id still like to set my services to reply in MSG rather then notice to see
what the responce will be if anyone can help please let me know.


Thank You,
      Founder of http://www.Fuelie.Net
 Fuelie.net Chat Network!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Harhalakis Stefanos" <v13@it.teithe.gr>
To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly


>
> From RFC1459:
>
>    The NOTICE message is used similarly to PRIVMSG.  The difference
>    between NOTICE and PRIVMSG is that automatic replies must never be
>    sent in response to a NOTICE message.  This rule applies to servers
>    too - they must not send any error reply back to the client on
>    receipt of a notice.  The object of this rule is to avoid loops
>    between a client automatically sending something in response to
>    something it received.  This is typically used by automatons (clients
>    with either an AI or other interactive program controlling their
>    actions) which are always seen to be replying lest they end up in a
>    loop with another automaton.
>
> I think that replacing PRIVMSGs with NOTICEs in services will create
> much more problems that it may solve.
>
> <<V13>>
>
> On Sun, 26 Dec 1999, Chris Knipe wrote:
>
> > Hi...
> >
> > Not wanting to break your bubble or anything, but go look at the source
code
> > of the services, more precisely, for the s_notice and s_lang
functions....
> > (I think they are in some include file)
> >
> > Change the NOTICE: line to PRIVMSG: and just about 90% of the stuff will
be
> > in private messages... its one line of code to change!!!
> >
> > (and no, I don't have the time to do it for you)
> >
> > Regards
> > Chris
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Fuelie Admin" <Admin@fuelie.net>
> > To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
> > Sent: 25 December 1999 08:51
> > Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
> >
> >
> > > Im willing to pay for a scripted services like Unreal2.1.1  ircs
ervies
> > that
> > > replies in MSG instead of notice  bt default
> > > if anyone can quote me a price and do this task let meknow
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank You,
> > >       Founder of <A  HREF="http://www.Fuelie.Net">http://www.Fuelie.Net</A>
> > >  Fuelie.net Chat Network!
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------
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> > with "unsubscribe ircservices" in the body, without the quotes.
> >
>
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From rebeldev at crosswinds.net  Sun Dec 26 22:15:03 1999
From: rebeldev at crosswinds.net (Matt Bradbury)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
References: <Pine.SGI.4.05.9912270136380.26203-100000@aetos.it.teithe.gr> <000501bf5017$51e81f60$56ba5e18@kc.rr.com>
Message-ID: 001d01bf5031$bc0bc210$57840b3f@REBEL2000

send.c:/* Send a NOTICE from the given source to the given nick. */
send.c:void notice(const char *source, const char *dest, const char *fmt,
...)
send.c:    snprintf(buf, sizeof(buf), "NOTICE %s :%s", dest, fmt);
send.c:/* Send a NULL-terminated array of text as NOTICEs. */
send.c:void notice_list(const char *source, const char *dest, const char
**text)
send.c: /* Have to kludge around an ircII bug here: if a notice includes
send.c:     notice(source, dest, *text);
send.c:     notice(source, dest, " ");
send.c:/* Send a message in the user's selected language to the user using
NOTICE. */
send.c:void notice_lang(const char *source, User *dest, int message, ...)
send.c: send_cmd(source, "NOTICE %s :%s", dest->nick, *t ? t : " ");
send.c:/* Like notice_lang(), but replace %S by the source.  This is an ugly
hack
send.c:void notice_help(const char *source, User *dest, int message, ...)
send.c: send_cmd(source, "NOTICE %s :%s", dest->nick, *outbuf ? outbuf : "
");

perhaps line numbers would help but as you can see if you change all the
uppercase NOTICE to PRIVMSG you will effectively change your services from
using a notice reply to a MSG reply on everything as long as you use the
standard source, if I had more time I'd make a patch for you but I hope this
works out for you, please let me know if it doesn't and I shall research it
more.

Matt Bradbury
/server orbit.phix.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Fuelie Admin" <Admin@fuelie.net>
To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly


> As this is so WEBTV cant see notice which is faulting some irc networks
from
> getting webtv clients on the servers..
> Id still like to set my services to reply in MSG rather then notice to see
> what the responce will be if anyone can help please let me know.
>
>
> Thank You,
>       Founder of http://www.Fuelie.Net
>  Fuelie.net Chat Network!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harhalakis Stefanos" <v13@it.teithe.gr>
> To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 5:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
>
>
> >
> > From RFC1459:
> >
> >    The NOTICE message is used similarly to PRIVMSG.  The difference
> >    between NOTICE and PRIVMSG is that automatic replies must never be
> >    sent in response to a NOTICE message.  This rule applies to servers
> >    too - they must not send any error reply back to the client on
> >    receipt of a notice.  The object of this rule is to avoid loops
> >    between a client automatically sending something in response to
> >    something it received.  This is typically used by automatons (clients
> >    with either an AI or other interactive program controlling their
> >    actions) which are always seen to be replying lest they end up in a
> >    loop with another automaton.
> >
> > I think that replacing PRIVMSGs with NOTICEs in services will create
> > much more problems that it may solve.
> >
> > <<V13>>
> >
> > On Sun, 26 Dec 1999, Chris Knipe wrote:
> >
> > > Hi...
> > >
> > > Not wanting to break your bubble or anything, but go look at the
source
> code
> > > of the services, more precisely, for the s_notice and s_lang
> functions....
> > > (I think they are in some include file)
> > >
> > > Change the NOTICE: line to PRIVMSG: and just about 90% of the stuff
will
> be
> > > in private messages... its one line of code to change!!!
> > >
> > > (and no, I don't have the time to do it for you)
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Fuelie Admin" <Admin@fuelie.net>
> > > To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
> > > Sent: 25 December 1999 08:51
> > > Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
> > >
> > >
> > > > Im willing to pay for a scripted services like Unreal2.1.1  ircs
> ervies
> > > that
> > > > replies in MSG instead of notice  bt default
> > > > if anyone can quote me a price and do this task let meknow
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thank You,
> > > >       Founder of <A  HREF="http://www.Fuelie.Net">http://www.Fuelie.Net</A>
> > > >  Fuelie.net Chat Network!
> > >
> > >
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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Sun Dec 26 23:12:21 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
In-Reply-To: <001d01bf5031$bc0bc210$57840b3f@REBEL2000>
References: 001d01bf5031$bc0bc210$57840b3f@REBEL2000
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.3.96.991227091110.10696A&#45;100000@shell.icon.co.za

Please can all further support for this request be directed straight to
the requestee and not to the Services list.

Thanks, Andrew

On Mon, 27 Dec 1999, Matt Bradbury wrote:

> send.c:/* Send a NOTICE from the given source to the given nick. */
> send.c:void notice(const char *source, const char *dest, const char *fmt,
> ...)
> send.c:    snprintf(buf, sizeof(buf), "NOTICE %s :%s", dest, fmt);
> send.c:/* Send a NULL-terminated array of text as NOTICEs. */
> send.c:void notice_list(const char *source, const char *dest, const char
> **text)
> send.c: /* Have to kludge around an ircII bug here: if a notice includes
[snip]

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From Admin at fuelie.net  Mon Dec 27 02:18:26 1999
From: Admin at fuelie.net (Fuelie Admin)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
References: <Pine.SGI.4.05.9912270136380.26203-100000@aetos.it.teithe.gr> <000501bf5017$51e81f60$56ba5e18@kc.rr.com> <001d01bf5031$bc0bc210$57840b3f@REBEL2000>
Message-ID: 000701bf5053$b6fced40$56ba5e18@kc.rr.com

thanx DUDE thats all i needed nomore requestsa for this will come from me!
:)


Thank You,
      Founder of http://www.Fuelie.Net
 Fuelie.net Chat Network!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Bradbury" <rebeldev@crosswinds.net>
To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 12:15 AM
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly


> send.c:/* Send a NOTICE from the given source to the given nick. */
> send.c:void notice(const char *source, const char *dest, const char *fmt,
> ...)
> send.c:    snprintf(buf, sizeof(buf), "NOTICE %s :%s", dest, fmt);
> send.c:/* Send a NULL-terminated array of text as NOTICEs. */
> send.c:void notice_list(const char *source, const char *dest, const char
> **text)
> send.c: /* Have to kludge around an ircII bug here: if a notice includes
> send.c:     notice(source, dest, *text);
> send.c:     notice(source, dest, " ");
> send.c:/* Send a message in the user's selected language to the user using
> NOTICE. */
> send.c:void notice_lang(const char *source, User *dest, int message, ...)
> send.c: send_cmd(source, "NOTICE %s :%s", dest->nick, *t ? t : " ");
> send.c:/* Like notice_lang(), but replace %S by the source.  This is an
ugly
> hack
> send.c:void notice_help(const char *source, User *dest, int message, ...)
> send.c: send_cmd(source, "NOTICE %s :%s", dest->nick, *outbuf ? outbuf : "
> ");
>
> perhaps line numbers would help but as you can see if you change all the
> uppercase NOTICE to PRIVMSG you will effectively change your services from
> using a notice reply to a MSG reply on everything as long as you use the
> standard source, if I had more time I'd make a patch for you but I hope
this
> works out for you, please let me know if it doesn't and I shall research
it
> more.
>
> Matt Bradbury
> /server orbit.phix.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fuelie Admin" <Admin@fuelie.net>
> To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 10:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
>
>
> > As this is so WEBTV cant see notice which is faulting some irc networks
> from
> > getting webtv clients on the servers..
> > Id still like to set my services to reply in MSG rather then notice to
see
> > what the responce will be if anyone can help please let me know.
> >
> >
> > Thank You,
> >       Founder of <A  HREF="http://www.Fuelie.Net">http://www.Fuelie.Net</A>
> >  Fuelie.net Chat Network!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Harhalakis Stefanos" <v13@it.teithe.gr>
> > To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 5:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
> >
> >
> > >
> > > From RFC1459:
> > >
> > >    The NOTICE message is used similarly to PRIVMSG.  The difference
> > >    between NOTICE and PRIVMSG is that automatic replies must never be
> > >    sent in response to a NOTICE message.  This rule applies to servers
> > >    too - they must not send any error reply back to the client on
> > >    receipt of a notice.  The object of this rule is to avoid loops
> > >    between a client automatically sending something in response to
> > >    something it received.  This is typically used by automatons
(clients
> > >    with either an AI or other interactive program controlling their
> > >    actions) which are always seen to be replying lest they end up in a
> > >    loop with another automaton.
> > >
> > > I think that replacing PRIVMSGs with NOTICEs in services will create
> > > much more problems that it may solve.
> > >
> > > <<V13>>
> > >
> > > On Sun, 26 Dec 1999, Chris Knipe wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi...
> > > >
> > > > Not wanting to break your bubble or anything, but go look at the
> source
> > code
> > > > of the services, more precisely, for the s_notice and s_lang
> > functions....
> > > > (I think they are in some include file)
> > > >
> > > > Change the NOTICE: line to PRIVMSG: and just about 90% of the stuff
> will
> > be
> > > > in private messages... its one line of code to change!!!
> > > >
> > > > (and no, I don't have the time to do it for you)
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Fuelie Admin" <Admin@fuelie.net>
> > > > To: <ircservices@ender.shadowfire.org>
> > > > Sent: 25 December 1999 08:51
> > > > Subject: Re: [IRCServices] chan is not working correctly
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Im willing to pay for a scripted services like Unreal2.1.1  ircs
> > ervies
> > > > that
> > > > > replies in MSG instead of notice  bt default
> > > > > if anyone can quote me a price and do this task let meknow
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank You,
> > > > >       Founder of <A  HREF="http://www.Fuelie.Net">http://www.Fuelie.Net</A>
> > > > >  Fuelie.net Chat Network!
> > > >
> > > >
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From andrewk at icon.co.za  Mon Dec 27 05:20:43 1999
From: andrewk at icon.co.za (Andrew Kempe)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] US FTP Mirror Needed
Message-ID: NCBBIPDDJGGDOCPMKPKPIEMHDAAA.andrewk@icon.co.za

I'm looking for a server that can mirror the IRC Services anonymous ftp
site. The server must have the following specs:

- MUST be located in the USA.
- A high speed connection to the Internet.
- Very good uptime stats.
- High availability.

If you think you can help me out, please drop me a line privately.

Thanks, Andrew

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From chris94688 at hotmail.com  Thu Dec 30 12:19:29 1999
From: chris94688 at hotmail.com (Chris W.)
Date: Sat Oct 23 23:00:55 2004
Subject: [IRCServices] IRC Site
Message-ID: 19991230201929.97421.qmail@hotmail.com

Andrew(or anyone else),
I have forgotten the services ftp site and the website. What is it?
Also to all the others out there, if you would please email me privately to 
chriswh@cyberhighway.net with a list of all the IRC networks you know of, 
I'd appreciate it. I'm compiling a site with all of them, and I need to know 
the services site so I can add it to the site.Thanks all and sorry as this 
doesn't pertain too much to services but I didn't know where else to try.

-Chris
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