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  15     <B>Andrew Church</B>
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  34 <PRE>&gt;<i>what about other ircds that use the owner (+q) mode?
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  36      That's the thing--the other two that use it (trircd and PTlink) use
  37 different letters (u and a respectively), and I'm not even sure how the
  38 latter works since PTlink doesn't seem to have a chanprot mode.  With all
  39 these differences in both implementation and usage it's just not worth
  40 dealing with.
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  42 &gt;&gt;&gt;<i>When used with Unreal, ChanServ's DEPROTECT command removes +q from the
  43 </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>channel founder.
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  45 </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>IMHO, this should not be permitted.  (DE)PROTECT should only ever alter a
  46 </I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>user's +a state.
  47 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>
  48 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>     Um, wow.  This was actually implemented by user request back in
  49 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>5.0.30.  I'm not going to make any further changes to this in version 5.0;
  50 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>if you don't like it, change the code yourself.
  51 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>
  52 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>     Seeing as how there seems to be no real consensus on the &quot;proper&quot; use
  53 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>of the channel owner mode, I'm going to remove support for it completely in
  54 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>5.1.
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  56 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>  --Andrew Church
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