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  15     <B>Saturn</B>
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  19     <I>Sat Oct 18 12:18:40 PDT 2003</I>
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  34 <PRE>I thank you for finally just coming out and telling me what I needed to know
  35 in the first place.  Had you stated that it has been discussed before (even
  36 without the hyperlinks) I would have at least known to go look through the
  37 archives.  However, all you said (then repeated) was RTFM.  I DID read it,
  38 once before I asked, and twice more, at your instruction, and found nothing
  39 to answer my questions.  Had I known it had already been discussed, I would
  40 certainly have tried to locate the answer that way.
  41
  42 Thank you to all the others who've posted to try and explain what I was
  43 missing in my understanding of this directive.  I got it now, and realize
  44 where my misinterpretation was.  Seems obvious now, but frankly that
  45 directive managed to fool myself and 8 of my staff into thinking of it as I
  46 have previously described.  Regardless, my apologies for any harsh words...
  47 I do stand by the fact that Andrew could have responded with a bit less
  48 apathy to the concerns raised; with something a bit less useless than RTFM
  49 (twice! even AFTER I said I had, THAT'S what pissed me off), and I hope that
  50 maybe Andrew will remember this chain of events for the next time someone
  51 has a problem that might be immediately obvious to Andrew, but not the
  52 person with the problem.  I think most of us KNOW by now to read the docs
  53 before asking questions; but if the question arises due to misinterpretation
  54 of the docs, how would reading them over and over help?
  55
  56 Thank you all for your time.
  57
  58 Saturn
  59
  60 ----- Original Message -----
  61 From: &quot;Andrew Church&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">achurch at achurch.org</A>&gt;
  62 To: &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">ircservices-coding at ircservices.za.net</A>&gt;
  63 Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 7:57 PM
  64 Subject: Re: [IRCServices Coding] Re: Akill problem in 5.0.22
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  66
  67      You know, I might have been more forgiving if this hadn't been gone
  68 over on this list (twice!) before:
  69
  70 <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/pipermail/ircservices-coding/2002/002305.html">http://www.ircservices.za.net/pipermail/ircservices-coding/2002/002305.html</A>
  71 <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/pipermail/ircservices-coding/2002/003215.html">http://www.ircservices.za.net/pipermail/ircservices-coding/2002/003215.html</A>
  72
  73 However, since you seem to have trouble both comprehending the
  74 documentation and reading the archives, I have added FAQ F.10 for your
  75 edification:
  76
  77 F.10. Services doesn't kill users matching a newly-added autokill mask even
  78 if ImmediatelySendAutokill is set.
  79
  80 Services never kills users when a new autokill is added; the
  81 ImmediatelySendAutokill configuration directive only causes
  82 Services to send the autokill itself (that is, the user/host mask
  83 to prohibit new connections from) to the IRC servers on your
  84 network.  This is a safety feature intended to limit the damage
  85 caused by a mistyped autokill.
  86
  87 Note that some IRC servers will themselves kill users matching a
  88 newly-added autokill; this is unrelated to Services.
  89
  90   --Andrew Church
  91     <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">achurch at achurch.org</A>
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