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  16         Re: [IRCServices] Yet, another great suggestion</H1>
  17     <B>Saturn</B>
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  20         Re: [IRCServices] Yet, another great suggestion">saturn at jetirc.net
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  22     <I>Sun Aug 31 12:29:07 PDT 2003</I>
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  38 <PRE>I think it is... consider an international Network like mine:  every server
  39 is in a different time zone -- How are users supposed to know what time zone
  40 the Services (pickign on Services' clock because Services are whats giving
  41 these notices!) is in??  Sure, they can do the /time command, if they even
  42 know abotu it.  But the vast majority of IRC users are ignorant of those
  43 sorts of commands, or even if they know about /time, they most likely have
  44 no idea they can specify a server with the command.
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  46 I realize that programmers for IRC-related software seem always to be of the
  47 universal opinion that ALL irc users should take the time to become elite
  48 experts abotu everything PC, however that is simply NOT reality.  Services
  49 is specificly there to SERVE the users and the ircops.  Its sole function is
  50 to police access and provide information to the users -- what use is it to
  51 say that a certain piece of information is &quot;not useful&quot; or &quot;not needed&quot; when
  52 you can plainly see that it is in this case, given the argument above?
  53
  54 Obviously, it is your project, not mine, and I certainly cannot force you to
  55 do anythign you don't want to do, but I and my staff and users all agree it
  56 would be extremely useful... &quot;Handy&quot; was the word most used.  I've had quite
  57 a few queries about it, and so I'm asking for it.  If you don't feel that
  58 non-techie users deserve any consideration, then ignore the request.  It's
  59 really up to you anyhow....
  60
  61 Saturn
  62 irc.jetirc.net
  63
  64 ----- Original Message -----
  65 From: &quot;Andrew Church&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">achurch at achurch.org</A>&gt;
  66 To: &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">saturn at jetirc.net</A>&gt;
  67 Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 7:13 AM
  68 Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Yet, another great suggestion
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  71 &gt;<i>So how do you get the current time from Services then? The actual time that
  72 </I>&gt;<i>SERVICES thinks it is, not the server, and not my local clock...
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  74      If there's any significant difference between your local clock, your
  75 IRC server's clock, and Services' clock, then at least one of them needs to
  76 be fixed.  That's not Services' problem.
  77
  78   --Andrew Church
  79     <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">achurch at achurch.org</A>
  80     <A HREF="http://achurch.org/">http://achurch.org/</A>
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