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  15     <B>Olly</B>
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  35 Andy
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  37 I take your point re: ability. I have already stated that I am in no way
  38 good enough to even shine your shoes, and should stick to scripting. Much of
  39 what seems obvious to you, appears obfusticated and confusing to me. But as
  40 I've previously pointed out. I'm all we have just now  :?P
  41
  42 I have, and still am reading the manual. Unlike many that post to these
  43 things I do make the effort. However I did not mean to disparage your good
  44 works, in fact you actually comment far more then most others do, but it is
  45 nonetheless true that you still fall into the trap of assuming that we have
  46 your intelligence, and can guess much of what is required from experience.
  47 Some of us unfortunately need crutches, and whilst I did manage to garner
  48 some of the information from HelpServ myself. I felt I was really hanging
  49 out there with my guesses, and could not determine for the life of me how to
  50 add commands. I have recieved a few excellent modules from Craig (AKA Brain)
  51 based on HelpServ (the module I myself had already chosen as the possible
  52 basis for my attempts at ruining services, as it seems the most likeliy to
  53 succeed), and I may now be able to get a head start on this thing. However,
  54 if there are any other modules out there for me to get my grubby little cut
  55 and paste on, I wouild be extremely grateful. I can't emphasise enough how
  56 helpful it would be for me to be able to see examples of real coders at work
  57 ;?) I can assure you that I would respect any restrictions placed on me re:
  58 use, copyrights etc.
  59
  60 My suggestion, if you will allow, is to put together a skeleton module like
  61 the Unreal people do, and comment that. It should take very little time, as
  62 it would probably be based on HelpServ. and would give people like me the
  63 kickstart they need.
  64
  65
  66 Thanks for your forebearance.
  67
  68 Olly
  69
  70 -----Original Message-----
  71 From: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">ircservices-coding-admin at ircservices.za.net</A>
  72 [mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">ircservices-coding-admin at ircservices.za.net</A>]On Behalf Of Andrew
  73 Church
  74 Sent: 24 November 2002 05:36
  75 To: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">ircservices-coding at ircservices.za.net</A>
  76 Subject: Re: [IRCServices Coding] Coding Modules HOWTO:
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  80      To be perfectly frank, my position is that you should at least be able
  81 to read the code (and I like to believe that my code is fairly readable) if
  82 you're going to be writing a module, cut-and-paste or not.  Much as I would
  83 have liked to write a full and detailed document on creating modules, and
  84 for that matter a complete Services design document, I simply don't have
  85 that much time on my hands.  The &quot;protocol/unreal&quot; module in particular is
  86 well documented, and should be instructive on how modules are put together;
  87 for &quot;bot&quot;-type modules, look at any of the existing *Serv modules, which
  88 among others should answer your question about adding commands.
  89
  90      The point about how to compile is a valid one, and I'll look at adding
  91 more information about that into the manual; in the meantime, look at the
  92 Makefile for any of the existing modules and/or read the comments at the
  93 top of modules/Makerules for information.
  94
  95      As far as the API goes, it's already documented in section 6 of the
  96 manual, in case you missed it.
  97
  98   --Andrew Church
  99     <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">achurch at achurch.org</A>
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