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15 <B>Dylan v.d Merwe
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19 <I>Fri Oct
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34 <PRE>Didn't I just comment about this type of response, or am I mistaken?
36 As far as I know many networks are perfectly happy with Ultimate. Heck even
37 I like Ultimate! If you didn't realise, it's also in its Alpha phase. Which
38 means very early testing phase. As for applying patches for Unreal, it's
39 very very simple. A few lines of code actually. Oh and services do work on
40 Unreal, I know, I have tested them. If you don't like the way mIRC handles
41 things, then either modify it yourself or don't use it. A better method
42 would be to approach Khaled Mardam-Bey. If you have a problem with other
43 packages, then I really recommend you approaching the coders of that
46 I'm sorry, but I am on the coders side. I do not appreciate this type of
47 comment as it helps nobody.
51 Network Administrator / EB Member
56 ----- Original Message -----
57 From:
"CyberDems
" <<A HREF=
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58 To:
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59 Sent: Saturday, October
26,
2002 1:
01 AM
60 Subject: Re: [IRCServices Coding] operserv / akill
63 ><i> I will have to interfere here.
64 </I>><i> UltimateIRCD is crap. no offence. It is CRAP. I'll give you an example
66 ><i> try doing a /lusers request. You will get BOLD in certain areas, and
67 </I>><i> underlined text, etc. Many IRC Clients (old ones especially) do not
69 ><i> colour, bold, underlined, inversed, etc text formats.
70 </I>><i> UnrealIRCD and UltimateIRCD both have too many usermodes. such as *, %,
72 ><i> in clients such as mIRC, if you do a /whois on a user with one of those
73 </I>><i> usermodes, you can't simply go over the channel name with your cursor and
74 </I>><i> double-click it, because mIRC was not designed for such
"addons
".
75 </I>><i> UnrealIRCD has changed so many things, that half the services in the world
76 </I>><i> do not work correctly with the newer versions, such as the Selene
78 ><i> Have you ever tried installing BOPM (blitzed open proxy monitor) on an
79 </I>><i> Unreal IRCD server - it's mission impossible, all those patches?
80 </I>><i> Yes, the coders have worked extra hard to get these extra un-necessary
81 </I>><i> addons into the ircds, but think of it this way, how many IRCDs are there,
82 </I>><i> and how many CLIENTS are there? The client coders have to do research on
84 ><i> IRCDs and then edit the clients to suite them. This is un-necessary, in my
85 </I>><i> opinion. But like you said, Dylan, each to his own. So those of you
87 ><i> your
200 users on that little UnrealIRCD slow network(s), keep going - I
88 </I>><i> wish you many netsplits in the near future ;)
90 </I>><i> --CyberDems
91 </I>><i> irc.wwirc.za.org
93 </I>><i> ----- Original Message -----
94 </I>><i> From:
"Dylan v.d Merwe
" <<A HREF=
"http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">dylanvdm at icon.co.za
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95 </I>><i> To:
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96 </I>><i> Sent: Friday, October
25,
2002 5:
42 PM
97 </I>><i> Subject: Re: [IRCServices Coding] operserv / akill
100 </I>><i> > Going back to the Unreal ircd issue. I personally think everybody looks
102 </I>><i> > different things to suit their own networks. I prefer Unreal over
104 ><i> > for example because it has more features, yet Bahamut is known to be
106 ><i> > good with large amounts of users. In my humble opinion the three main
108 </I>><i> > are very good for different situations and needs. Unreal is a very good
110 </I>><i> > and has many unique features and suits my network.
111 </I>><i> > Unreal, Bahamut and Ultimate ircds are each good in their own right, and
113 </I>><i> > there is a problem then why not discuss it on the coders mailing list?
115 ><i> > not looking to be hammered by other people, as discussed while back in
116 </I>><i> > other topics, I'm just sharing my opinion. The coders have taken a great
117 </I>><i> > deal of time and effort to develop something for us to use. It's the
120 </I>><i> > services. Other packages are around but we choose ircservices because
122 ><i> > suit us. Others may not think so.
124 </I>><i> > I congratulate each and every coder that makes something for us because
126 ><i> > appreciate their effort. The Unreal, Bahamut and Ultimate coders (and
127 </I>><i> > others) plus Andrew and other services coders deserve an applause for
129 </I>><i> > all they have done for us. Without them our networks wouldn't be the
131 ><i> > So instead of us giving criticism, lets help make them better by giving
132 </I>><i> > constructive comments. Everyone appreciates a pat on the back once in a
133 </I>><i> > while.
137 </I>><i> > Dylan.
139 </I>><i> > Network Administrator / EB Member
140 </I>><i> > The Omega IRC Network
141 </I>><i> > www.omega.org.za
142 </I>><i> > irc.omega.org.za
146 </I>><i> > ----- Original Message -----
147 </I>><i> > From:
"Noam M.
" <<A HREF=
"http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">noam_m at bezeqint.net
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148 </I>><i> > To:
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149 </I>><i> > Sent: Friday, October
25,
2002 12:
21 AM
150 </I>><i> > Subject: Re: [IRCServices Coding] operserv / akill
153 </I>><i> > > are you suggesting a self respecting
3000+ user network would use
156 </I>><i> > > an ircd?
157 </I>><i> > >
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