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15 <B>Dylan v.d Merwe
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"[IRCServices Coding] Guest nick">dylanvdm at icon.co.za
19 <I>Wed Oct
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36 I apologize, sent the message in the early hours of the morning.
41 ----- Original Message -----
42 From:
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43 To:
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44 Sent: Wednesday, October
02,
2002 4:
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45 Subject: Re: [IRCServices Coding] Guest nick
48 ><i> Fair enough answer, and it makes sense..
50 </I>><i> As to Dylan who was so thoughfully rude in his reply, i grant you that
52 ><i> longer numerics would be useful on a big network, but even DALnet only
54 ><i> 5 digits... that's potentially
100,
000 Guest nicks at once... I really
55 </I>><i> doubt there are any networks anywhere with the need for a
10-digit nick
56 </I>><i> (
10,
000,
000,
000 possible GUEST nicks)... I can understand from a
57 </I>><i> "randomized
" point of view, so that it decreases the possibility of
58 </I>><i> collision, and once explained that way (thank you Andrew) it makes sense
59 </I>><i> there. Dylan, I think most people would agree that the onyl stupid
61 ><i> is the one that goes un-asked, and that it is simple rudeness that answers
63 ><i> perfectly valid question with rudeness and sniping, calling it
"stupid.
"
64 </I>><i> Go climb back under your rock.
66 </I>><i> ----- Original Message -----
67 </I>><i> From:
"Andrew Church
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68 </I>><i> To:
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69 </I>><i> Sent: Tuesday, October
01,
2002 5:
34 PM
70 </I>><i> Subject: Re: [IRCServices Coding] Guest nick
73 </I>><i> > Guest nicks were changed during the
5.0 alpha stage to start from a
74 </I>><i> > random number; this was done to avoid cases where malicious users would
75 </I>><i> > take the next sequential Guest nick and collide off the nickchanged user
76 </I>><i> > (and themselves escape Services' notice in the process). The number is
77 </I>><i> > also re-randomized when such an attempted collision is found.
79 </I>><i> > In any case, Guest nicks are not intended for actual use in
81 ><i> > they are only a placeholder for people who try to use registered nicks
83 ><i> > haven't yet chosen a new one. (If you, as an oper, need to /msg someone
84 </I>><i> > with such a nick to resolve a problem or such, well, live with
86 ><i> > can be quite helpful here.)
88 </I>><i> > --Andrew Church
89 </I>><i> > <A HREF=
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90 </I>><i> > <A HREF=
"http://achurch.org/">http://achurch.org/
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92 </I>><i> > >My opers were commenting on how long the numeric is following
"Guest
"
94 </I>><i> > >user is guested... in the old days it was just
5 digits, but i note
97 </I>><i> > >lot more than that now.. makes it tricky to pm people with all them
99 </I>><i> > >too.
100 </I>><i> > >
101 </I>><i> > >Any chance of one or both of two possible things happening?
102 </I>><i> > >
103 </I>><i> > >1. Can the numeric length be made an option in the conf? (like
104 </I>><i> > >GuestNumericLength
5 to make it
5 digits or something)
105 </I>><i> > >2. Can someone tell me where I might find this in the source code to
107 </I>><i> > >it myself?
108 </I>><i> > >
109 </I>><i> > >Obviously option
1 would be handier, but I'll settle for option
2... Of
110 </I>><i> > >course, I know it's kinda petty, and I'll understand also if nobody
113 </I>><i> > >bother with either solution hehe...
114 </I>><i> > >
115 </I>><i> > >Anyone know why it IS suddenly so many more digits now?
116 </I>><i> > >
117 </I>><i> > >
118 </I>><i> > >
119 </I>><i> > >
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