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14 <H1>[IRCServices Coding] Guest nick</H1>
15 <B>Dylan v.d Merwe</B>
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17 TITLE="[IRCServices Coding] Guest nick">dylanvdm at icon.co.za
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19 <I>Wed Oct 2 04:43:28 PDT 2002</I>
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36 I apologize, sent the message in the early hours of the morning.
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38 Dylan.
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40
41 ----- Original Message -----
42 From: &quot;Saturn&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">saturn at jetirc.net</A>&gt;
43 To: &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">ircservices-coding at ircservices.za.net</A>&gt;
44 Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 4:04 AM
45 Subject: Re: [IRCServices Coding] Guest nick
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47
48 &gt;<i> Fair enough answer, and it makes sense..
49 </I>&gt;<i>
50 </I>&gt;<i> As to Dylan who was so thoughfully rude in his reply, i grant you that
51 </I>MAYBE
52 &gt;<i> longer numerics would be useful on a big network, but even DALnet only
53 </I>needs
54 &gt;<i> 5 digits... that's potentially 100,000 Guest nicks at once... I really
55 </I>&gt;<i> doubt there are any networks anywhere with the need for a 10-digit nick
56 </I>&gt;<i> (10,000,000,000 possible GUEST nicks)... I can understand from a
57 </I>&gt;<i> &quot;randomized&quot; point of view, so that it decreases the possibility of
58 </I>&gt;<i> collision, and once explained that way (thank you Andrew) it makes sense
59 </I>&gt;<i> there. Dylan, I think most people would agree that the onyl stupid
60 </I>question
61 &gt;<i> is the one that goes un-asked, and that it is simple rudeness that answers
62 </I>a
63 &gt;<i> perfectly valid question with rudeness and sniping, calling it &quot;stupid.&quot;
64 </I>&gt;<i> Go climb back under your rock.
65 </I>&gt;<i>
66 </I>&gt;<i> ----- Original Message -----
67 </I>&gt;<i> From: &quot;Andrew Church&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">achurch at achurch.org</A>&gt;
68 </I>&gt;<i> To: &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">ircservices-coding at ircservices.za.net</A>&gt;
69 </I>&gt;<i> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 5:34 PM
70 </I>&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [IRCServices Coding] Guest nick
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72 </I>&gt;<i>
73 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; Guest nicks were changed during the 5.0 alpha stage to start from a
74 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; random number; this was done to avoid cases where malicious users would
75 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; take the next sequential Guest nick and collide off the nickchanged user
76 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; (and themselves escape Services' notice in the process). The number is
77 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; also re-randomized when such an attempted collision is found.
78 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
79 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; In any case, Guest nicks are not intended for actual use in
80 </I>chatting;
81 &gt;<i> &gt; they are only a placeholder for people who try to use registered nicks
82 </I>and
83 &gt;<i> &gt; haven't yet chosen a new one. (If you, as an oper, need to /msg someone
84 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; with such a nick to resolve a problem or such, well, live with
85 </I>it--/query
86 &gt;<i> &gt; can be quite helpful here.)
87 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
88 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; --Andrew Church
89 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">achurch at achurch.org</A>
90 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://achurch.org/">http://achurch.org/</A>
91 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
92 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;My opers were commenting on how long the numeric is following &quot;Guest&quot;
93 </I>&gt;<i> when a
94 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;user is guested... in the old days it was just 5 digits, but i note
95 </I>it's
96 &gt;<i> a
97 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;lot more than that now.. makes it tricky to pm people with all them
98 </I>&gt;<i> numbers
99 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;too.
100 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
101 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;Any chance of one or both of two possible things happening?
102 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
103 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;1. Can the numeric length be made an option in the conf? (like
104 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;GuestNumericLength 5 to make it 5 digits or something)
105 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;2. Can someone tell me where I might find this in the source code to
106 </I>&gt;<i> change
107 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;it myself?
108 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
109 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;Obviously option 1 would be handier, but I'll settle for option 2... Of
110 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;course, I know it's kinda petty, and I'll understand also if nobody
111 </I>wants
112 &gt;<i> to
113 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;bother with either solution hehe...
114 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
115 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;Anyone know why it IS suddenly so many more digits now?
116 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
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