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15 <B>Saturn</B>
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19 <I>Tue Oct 1 19:04:01 PDT 2002</I>
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34 <PRE>Fair enough answer, and it makes sense..
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36 As to Dylan who was so thoughfully rude in his reply, i grant you that MAYBE
37 longer numerics would be useful on a big network, but even DALnet only needs
38 5 digits... that's potentially 100,000 Guest nicks at once... I really
39 doubt there are any networks anywhere with the need for a 10-digit nick
40 (10,000,000,000 possible GUEST nicks)... I can understand from a
41 &quot;randomized&quot; point of view, so that it decreases the possibility of
42 collision, and once explained that way (thank you Andrew) it makes sense
43 there. Dylan, I think most people would agree that the onyl stupid question
44 is the one that goes un-asked, and that it is simple rudeness that answers a
45 perfectly valid question with rudeness and sniping, calling it &quot;stupid.&quot;
46 Go climb back under your rock.
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48 ----- Original Message -----
49 From: &quot;Andrew Church&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">achurch at achurch.org</A>&gt;
50 To: &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">ircservices-coding at ircservices.za.net</A>&gt;
51 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 5:34 PM
52 Subject: Re: [IRCServices Coding] Guest nick
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55 &gt;<i> Guest nicks were changed during the 5.0 alpha stage to start from a
56 </I>&gt;<i> random number; this was done to avoid cases where malicious users would
57 </I>&gt;<i> take the next sequential Guest nick and collide off the nickchanged user
58 </I>&gt;<i> (and themselves escape Services' notice in the process). The number is
59 </I>&gt;<i> also re-randomized when such an attempted collision is found.
60 </I>&gt;<i>
61 </I>&gt;<i> In any case, Guest nicks are not intended for actual use in chatting;
62 </I>&gt;<i> they are only a placeholder for people who try to use registered nicks and
63 </I>&gt;<i> haven't yet chosen a new one. (If you, as an oper, need to /msg someone
64 </I>&gt;<i> with such a nick to resolve a problem or such, well, live with it--/query
65 </I>&gt;<i> can be quite helpful here.)
66 </I>&gt;<i>
67 </I>&gt;<i> --Andrew Church
68 </I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">achurch at achurch.org</A>
69 </I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://achurch.org/">http://achurch.org/</A>
70 </I>&gt;<i>
71 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;My opers were commenting on how long the numeric is following &quot;Guest&quot;
72 </I>when a
73 &gt;<i> &gt;user is guested... in the old days it was just 5 digits, but i note it's
74 </I>a
75 &gt;<i> &gt;lot more than that now.. makes it tricky to pm people with all them
76 </I>numbers
77 &gt;<i> &gt;too.
78 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
79 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;Any chance of one or both of two possible things happening?
80 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
81 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;1. Can the numeric length be made an option in the conf? (like
82 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;GuestNumericLength 5 to make it 5 digits or something)
83 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;2. Can someone tell me where I might find this in the source code to
84 </I>change
85 &gt;<i> &gt;it myself?
86 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
87 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;Obviously option 1 would be handier, but I'll settle for option 2... Of
88 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;course, I know it's kinda petty, and I'll understand also if nobody wants
89 </I>to
90 &gt;<i> &gt;bother with either solution hehe...
91 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
92 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;Anyone know why it IS suddenly so many more digits now?
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