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34 <PRE>><i>From:
"Ekim Engin
" <<A HREF=
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36 </I>><i>To:
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37 </I>><i>Subject: RE: [IRCServices Coding] Some IMHO usefull features
38 </I>><i>Date: Sun,
22 Sep
2002 04:
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40 </I>><i> > 1, Personally, I dont see the point in this. If you ban an
41 </I>><i> > email block, they
42 </I>><i> > will just find another
1. for example, you cant ban
43 </I>><i> > *.hotmail.com on a
44 </I>><i> > network, so the
"stupid kiddies
" will just use something like
45 </I>><i> > that. Just
46 </I>><i> > insert a largish reg delay, it would mean they would have to
47 </I>><i> > change their
48 </I>><i> > IP, or wait for something like
60mins before being able to
49 </I>><i> > register again.
52 </I>><i>Huge proxy atacks, or even more DDOS atacks registering
1 nick per hour
53 </I>><i>with
500 hosts is quite disturbing. Services is sending out many mails
54 </I>><i>(to adresses that do not exist) and we get the bounces. I implemented
55 </I>><i>this feature on an earlier version of ircservices with the result, that
56 </I>><i>the complete
"registration atack
" stopped. I reopend the ban
2 days
57 </I>><i>after, and the atack continued on same speed. Ist is based on a one time
58 </I>><i>initialisation, spreadign out through a common used but backdoored
59 </I>><i>script. Once started it does the registering crap all the time. Akilling
60 </I>><i>(or glineing) just results in the user getting banned. After he/she
61 </I>><i>comes back, the script continues registering. The only thing common to
62 </I>><i>this atacks is it uses alwas the same mail adresses. So I thought this
63 </I>><i>as quite usefull, it's just a suggestion after all.
65 </I>><i> > 2) Once again, i dont see a point for this feature. It would
66 </I>><i> > make channels
67 </I>><i> > prone to opwars, and takeovers. although the SUSPEND command
68 </I>><i> > does do what
69 </I>><i> > you ask, but i am unsure if it supports wildcards.
71 </I>><i>Suspend does prevent registering AND using of the channel, while my
72 </I>><i>feature suggestion just prevents registering. We came up with this
73 </I>><i>feature afer every single channel gets registerd with #ttnet_channelname
74 </I>><i>(the network is called TTNet). As it is our Network policy that channels
75 </I>><i>starting with #ttnet may just be registerd by our network stuff, it is
76 </I>><i>quite annoying to stop/drop/suspend these channels all the time, while
77 </I>><i>with this feature does allow us to prevent this from scratch.
81 </I>><i> > Craig McLure
82 </I>><i> > <A HREF=
"http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">Craig at chatspike.net
</A>
83 </I>><i> > Network Administrator of the ChatSpike IRC Network.
84 </I>><i> > ChatSpike, the users network! www.chatspike.net
86 </I>><i> > The InspIRCd Project, The Next Generation in IRCds.. Alpha0
87 </I>><i> > Avaliable today!
88 </I>><i> > <A HREF=
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90 </I>><i> > _________________________________________________________________
91 </I>><i> > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device:
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"http://mobile.msn.com">http://mobile.msn.com
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110 Once again, i see no way of preventing
1. If the feature is added to
111 services, a script like the following will be created:
115 </I>set %nick $rand(
0,
999999)
116 set %email $rand(
0,
9999999)
117 set %pass $rand(
0,
9999999)
118 /nick $rand(a,z) $+ $rand(a,z) $+ $rand(A,Z) $+ $rand(a,z) $+ %nick
119 /ns register %pass %email $+ @hotmail.com
123 Its not likley that you can ban hotmail, as in excess
20% of any IRC
124 Networks users usually have a hotmail accounts :P
126 although i agree with Suggestion
2.
131 <A HREF=
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132 Network Administrator of the ChatSpike IRC Network.
133 ChatSpike, the users network! www.chatspike.net
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