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15 <B>Craig McLure</B>
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19 <I>Sat Sep 21 21:40:09 PDT 2002</I>
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34 <PRE>&gt;<i>From: &quot;Ekim Engin&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">ekim.engin at stud.uni-karlsruhe.de</A>&gt;
35 </I>&gt;<i>Reply-To: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">ircservices-coding at ircservices.za.net</A>
36 </I>&gt;<i>To: &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">ircservices-coding at ircservices.za.net</A>&gt;
37 </I>&gt;<i>Subject: RE: [IRCServices Coding] Some IMHO usefull features
38 </I>&gt;<i>Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 04:53:03 +0200
39 </I>&gt;<i>
40 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; 1, Personally, I dont see the point in this. If you ban an
41 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; email block, they
42 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; will just find another 1. for example, you cant ban
43 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; *.hotmail.com on a
44 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; network, so the &quot;stupid kiddies&quot; will just use something like
45 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; that. Just
46 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; insert a largish reg delay, it would mean they would have to
47 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; change their
48 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; IP, or wait for something like 60mins before being able to
49 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; register again.
50 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
51 </I>&gt;<i>
52 </I>&gt;<i>Huge proxy atacks, or even more DDOS atacks registering 1 nick per hour
53 </I>&gt;<i>with 500 hosts is quite disturbing. Services is sending out many mails
54 </I>&gt;<i>(to adresses that do not exist) and we get the bounces. I implemented
55 </I>&gt;<i>this feature on an earlier version of ircservices with the result, that
56 </I>&gt;<i>the complete &quot;registration atack&quot; stopped. I reopend the ban 2 days
57 </I>&gt;<i>after, and the atack continued on same speed. Ist is based on a one time
58 </I>&gt;<i>initialisation, spreadign out through a common used but backdoored
59 </I>&gt;<i>script. Once started it does the registering crap all the time. Akilling
60 </I>&gt;<i>(or glineing) just results in the user getting banned. After he/she
61 </I>&gt;<i>comes back, the script continues registering. The only thing common to
62 </I>&gt;<i>this atacks is it uses alwas the same mail adresses. So I thought this
63 </I>&gt;<i>as quite usefull, it's just a suggestion after all.
64 </I>&gt;<i>
65 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2) Once again, i dont see a point for this feature. It would
66 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; make channels
67 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; prone to opwars, and takeovers. although the SUSPEND command
68 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; does do what
69 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; you ask, but i am unsure if it supports wildcards.
70 </I>&gt;<i>
71 </I>&gt;<i>Suspend does prevent registering AND using of the channel, while my
72 </I>&gt;<i>feature suggestion just prevents registering. We came up with this
73 </I>&gt;<i>feature afer every single channel gets registerd with #ttnet_channelname
74 </I>&gt;<i>(the network is called TTNet). As it is our Network policy that channels
75 </I>&gt;<i>starting with #ttnet may just be registerd by our network stuff, it is
76 </I>&gt;<i>quite annoying to stop/drop/suspend these channels all the time, while
77 </I>&gt;<i>with this feature does allow us to prevent this from scratch.
78 </I>&gt;<i>
79 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
80 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; --
81 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; Craig McLure
82 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">Craig at chatspike.net</A>
83 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; Network Administrator of the ChatSpike IRC Network.
84 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; ChatSpike, the users network! www.chatspike.net
85 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
86 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; The InspIRCd Project, The Next Generation in IRCds.. Alpha0
87 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; Avaliable today!
88 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/inspircd">http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/inspircd</A>
89 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
90 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; _________________________________________________________________
91 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: <A HREF="http://mobile.msn.com">http://mobile.msn.com</A>
92 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
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98 </I>&gt;<i>
99 </I>&gt;<i>+------------------------+------------------------+
100 </I>&gt;|<i> Talesin aka Ekim Engin | <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">talesin at tr-ircd.net</A> |
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110 Once again, i see no way of preventing 1. If the feature is added to
111 services, a script like the following will be created:
112
113 alias spam {
114 :<i>loop
115 </I>set %nick $rand(0,999999)
116 set %email $rand(0,9999999)
117 set %pass $rand(0,9999999)
118 /nick $rand(a,z) $+ $rand(a,z) $+ $rand(A,Z) $+ $rand(a,z) $+ %nick
119 /ns register %pass %email $+ @hotmail.com
120 goto loop
121 }
122
123 Its not likley that you can ban hotmail, as in excess 20% of any IRC
124 Networks users usually have a hotmail accounts :P
125
126 although i agree with Suggestion 2.
127
128
129 --
130 Craig McLure
131 <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices-coding">Craig at chatspike.net</A>
132 Network Administrator of the ChatSpike IRC Network.
133 ChatSpike, the users network! www.chatspike.net
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