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  15     <B>Bergee</B>
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  17        TITLE="[IRCServices] ircservices should enforce +R">lordbergee at comcast.net
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  19     <I>Tue Mar  1 08:32:55 PST 2005</I>
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  34 <PRE>   Either I've misunderstood you and Dionisios K. or I think he meant
  35 something different from what you're talking about.  I think he is
  36 suggesting that IRCServices should treat +R like it treats +A or +O.
  37 That is to say, right now, if a channel is +O then IRCServices will kick
  38 anyone that joins the channel that is not a global IRCop.  So what I
  39 took his suggestion to mean is that he wants IRCServices to kick the
  40 user out of the channel if they don't have a registered nickname and +R
  41 is set on the channel.
  42         If this is indeed what he is suggesting, then I would say that it might
  43 be worth considering.  I guess that's useful really in two situations.
  44 First if a user is the first one to join a channel and +R is mode locked
  45 on, because the IRCd would then not enforce +R because of course the
  46 channel did not exist at the time.  Secondly I suppose would be on syncs
  47 from netsplits where one side did not have +R and say some spam bots
  48 managed to get in on on a split server.  I guess in general I think it
  49 is worth enforcing the mode simply for consistency in IRCServices since
  50 +A, +O and +z on Unreal are already enforced.
  51         And if this isn't what you meant Dionisios, then I suggest what I
  52 thought you meant.  What does everyone else on the list think of that? :)
  53
  54 Bergee
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  56 Medice wrote:
  57 &gt;<i> I'd say keep this in user's decision. Since each of the mentioned modes
  58 </I>&gt;<i> means different settings you should not bind them together. Especially
  59 </I>&gt;<i> at +AO -since users capable of using those channelmodes (so called opers
  60 </I>&gt;<i> ;) ) should have sufficient knowledge about irc-stuff to decide by
  61 </I>&gt;<i> themselves if +R is mandatory or not (on my side I think it's not...)
  62 </I>&gt;<i> there are several seperate modes invented to produce numerous
  63 </I>&gt;<i> combinations of settings, just like a users likes it / thinks it's
  64 </I>&gt;<i> necessary....
  65 </I>&gt;<i>
  66 </I>&gt;<i> just my 2 cents...
  67 </I>&gt;<i> medice
  68 </I>&gt;<i>
  69 </I>&gt;<i> Dionisios K. wrote:
  70 </I>&gt;<i>
  71 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> on many ircds +R chmode is supported by now. I thing
  72 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> services should enforce it on 1st user joins the
  73 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> channel like +OA and +z on Unrealircd
  74 </I>&gt;&gt;<i>
  75 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> =====
  76 </I>&gt;&gt;<i> Dionisios K. - ToXiC On HellenicNet
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