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  15     <B>Medice</B>
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  19     <I>Sat Aug 14 16:03:36 PDT 2004</I>
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  35 <PRE>&gt;<i> This is how the local oper has been working, since opers were first
  36 </I>&gt;<i> added to the ircd. It's nothing new to Unreal.
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  38 </I>well i don't have on a bright knowledge of ircds and their history in
  39 detail, but I don't believe that this is good working that way...
  40 I personally don't like the idea of localops at the first place
  41 (different story), but if there is such a thing it should work smoothly
  42 - and if there are new developments which depends on previous
  43 installations , than it might be necessary to make some minor or major
  44 adjustments - even to old well-known stuff
  45 f.e. chanmode +O (which is rather new I think - considering history of
  46 IRC ;) ) blocking every non-oper, which means there must be a clear
  47 detection either a user is an oper or not - if there are cross-checks on
  48 remote servers if they are - or not, than they have to be informed
  49 correctly as well...
  50
  51 but at first this was not about the localop/chmode+O-problem but about
  52 netsplits and net(re)connects - also a rather well known thing which
  53 always caused problems on networks (desync/overtaking/etc...)
  54 I think an ircd should work smoothly on its own - services just offer
  55 additional features and are not responsible to clean up ircd's desyncs
  56
  57 As I mentioned on unreal-bug-tracker on this topic &quot;the fact that
  58 something works as designed does not mean, that the design hasn't any
  59 flaws...&quot;
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  61 greets
  62 /medice
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