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15 <B>David D. Wachtveitl
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19 <I>Tue Apr
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34 <PRE>Also, it would prevent an
"over the shoulder
" viewer of the password the
35 ability to use it. I keep an access mask on my nick ident for this very
36 reason. I think it makes some sense to have this on the channel founder as
37 well (as an option). Of course, if for some reason you are the founder and
38 no longer have access to the mask you set for yourself, you could be sol
42 ----- Original Message -----
43 From:
"Craig McLure
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44 To:
"<A HREF=
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45 <<A HREF=
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46 Sent: Tuesday, April
13,
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47 Subject: Re: RE: RE: [IRCServices] secure Identify Feature..
50 ><i> I read this mail, and read it again, and its absolutly right, with some
51 </I>careful manipulation of the /cs levels command, along with /cs access, you
52 can basically give people 'Founder' privs without them being founder.
53 Another possible advantage to this command thou.. If for some weird reason,
54 someone finds your channel password, this command would prevent them from
55 doing anything with it, as they would not be able to log on as channel
56 founder (Unless they were on the access list). sometimes the distributation
57 of channel passwords may be present when the real founder cant get at the
58 channel for various reasons, and they give the password to the successor, or
59 someone else trustworthy. From where i'm sitting, I cant really see any
60 other real use for this function.
62 </I>><i> /****************************************
63 </I>><i> * Craig
"FrostyCoolSlug
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70 </I>><i> * From - M
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73 ><i> * Sent -
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74 </I>><i> * Subject - RE: RE: [IRCServices] secure Identify Feature..
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79 </I>><i> >Craig McLure wrote:
80 </I>><i> >> This command would add things to make the channel more secure
81 </I>><i> >> thou, If you did give the channel founder password to people
82 </I>><i> >> you trust, and you find its being abused, you can simply
83 </I>><i> >> remove that person from the access list, this way you dont
84 </I>><i> >> need to worry about changing the password and re-distributing it :)
86 </I>><i> >The way to be secure is not to give out the founder password. You could
87 </I>><i> >apply the same short sighted reason for a
"/ns set
88 </I>><i> >letotherpeopleaccessmynick pass
" request.
90 </I>><i> >The founder password is designed to give the channel founder access to
91 </I>><i> >manage the ownership of the channel. There is no need to give out the
92 </I>><i> >password to anyone, channel management through others is provided via op
93 </I>><i> >status.
95 </I>><i> >If for some peculiar reason a channel founder wishes to share the
97 ><i> >then IMO that is their problem. The chances are that any user that would
98 </I>><i> >require modifying the access list to
"fix
" this, would likely be
100 ><i> >too late since a rogue user could have merely taken ownership of the
102 ><i> >thereby making the option and the founder password redundant and merely
104 ><i> >it a problem that administrators waste time on.
106 </I>><i> >The founder can already provide access to whatever commands an op needs
108 ><i> >levels which is far more secure and already subject to access list
109 </I>><i> >restrictions.
111 </I>><i> >What function of founder status is required that warrants removing the
112 </I>><i> >founder status by supporting sharing of it?
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