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15 <B>jay</B>
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19 <I>Fri Apr 11 17:35:07 PDT 2003</I>
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34 <PRE>More worried about the risk of it not coming back up than anything else.
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36 So, apart from installing a new kernel, what should I do? If I'm not going to get ircservices to work, can anyone recommend a different services application?
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38 And anyway, what is it that ircservices needs in a newer kernel? If complex things like php/openss(h/l) and so on work fine here, why not something as simple as this?
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40 Thanks,
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42 Charlie
43
44 On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 12:15:06AM -0000, Greg King wrote:
45 &gt;<i>
46 </I>&gt;<i> downtime? How much down time is there for a new kernel? Mine is just a few
47 </I>&gt;<i> minutes for a reboot.
48 </I>&gt;<i>
49 </I>&gt;<i> And, there are so MANY exploits to older kernels out there, you are living in a
50 </I>&gt;<i> glass house worried about the down time to implement better security. How much
51 </I>&gt;<i> down time will removing hacker's damage take?
52 </I>&gt;<i>
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55 </I>&gt;<i>
56 </I>&gt;<i> jay &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">jay at hyperion.sleepygeek.org</A>&gt; said:
57 </I>&gt;<i>
58 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
59 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; I know I should update it, but I can't justify the risk and downtime, particularly
60 </I>&gt;<i> not for this. I'm not happy with the machine as it is, but there's nothing I can do
61 </I>&gt;<i> about it, putting a new kernel in place just isn't an option.
62 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
63 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; I appreciate the response though, thanks.
64 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
65 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; Do you have any other suggestions? :)
66 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
67 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thanks,
68 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
69 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; Charlie
70 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
71 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 12:48:28AM +0200, Holger Baust wrote:
72 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Hi!
73 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
74 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; On a ftp.kernel.org mirror:
75 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; ncftp /pub/linux/kernel/v2.2 &gt; ls -al LAT*
76 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; -rw-rw-r-- 1 406 429 0 Dec 11 2000 LATEST-IS-2.2.25
77 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
78 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; ncftp /pub/linux/kernel/v2.4 &gt; ls -al LAT*
79 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; -rw-rw-r-- 1 406 429 0 Nov 28 23:54 LATEST-IS-2.4.20
80 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
81 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; You should try 2.2.25 or better take a 2.4 Kernel... perhaps
82 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 2.4.18-2.4.20.
83 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
84 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; If you think, 2.2.16 is not too old, I think you live behind the moon...
85 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; *G*
86 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
87 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; On ftp.de.kernel.org, the kernel files for 2.2.16 are from June 7th
88 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 2000. I think, that's really old...
89 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
90 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
91 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; On Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 11:26:30PM +0100, jay wrote:
92 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Have finally managed to get a copy of Services installed, using the 5.0.16 RPM.
93 </I>&gt;<i> The 5.x source packages refused to compile when they got to the modules section.
94 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
95 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Anyway, I've got this installed, and when I try to run it:
96 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
97 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; $ /usr/sbin/ircservices
98 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; FATAL: kernel too old
99 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Aborted
100 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
101 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Kernel version is 2.2.16
102 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
103 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; 2.2.16 isn't all THAT old - what's going on?
104 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
105 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
106 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Thanks,
107 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
108 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Charlie
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115 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; MfG,
116 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Holger Baust
117 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
118 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; --
119 </I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Holger Baust <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">Holger.Baust at freenet-ag.de</A>
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