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34 <PRE> This more or less summarizes my feelings on the matter, though I will
35 comment that I don't consider SVSNICK/SVSMODE essential parts of Services
36 (I personally prefer nick kill to nick change). But no, I have no plans at
37 the moment to support this ircd.
40 <A HREF=
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46 </I>><i>though I am not an authority, I would say NO, because ircd2.10
47 </I>><i>and later is not designed to work with a services server
48 </I>><i>(and not SERVICE's which are a totally different kind),
49 </I>><i>because of the following:
51 </I>><i>- Lack of a global kline (akill would not work)
52 </I>><i>- Lack of topic burst
53 </I>><i>- Lack of services-savvy functions like (SVSMODE, SVSNICK)
54 </I>><i>- Lack of privilege level (like U:Line) so that certain clients
55 </I>><i> can do more (kill, mode, kick, topic) without having to join
58 </I>><i>Unless IRCnet coders start coding their ircd to support services,
59 </I>><i>I do not see any point in supporting that ircd, since the kludges
60 </I>><i>and hacks to accomplish those mentioned functionality would take
61 </I>><i>too much time.
64 </I>><i>- Instead of Autokilling, services would need to continously send
65 </I>><i> KILL, and this would work as long as you configure your server
66 </I>><i> to allow remote KILLs.
67 </I>><i>- After a netjoin, a channel could have different topics the amount
68 </I>><i> of linking servers, and services would never notice it, and
69 </I>><i> it also would not need resetting topics.
70 </I>><i>- Services would even not see a netsplit happening, if:
71 </I>><i> bla.xxx.com splits from
72 </I>><i> hub.xxx.com but, hub.xxx.com represents themselves as
73 </I>><i> *.xxx.com and any server behind them is hidden from the
75 </I>><i>- Guest'ing would not work, since SVSNICK is not there.
76 </I>><i>- In order for ChanServ to MODE #channel +o nick, ChanServ should
77 </I>><i> join the channel, and become op by services server, and then
78 </I>><i> set op on another user
79 </I>><i>- The same for kick and topic.
81 </I>><i>Moreover, ircservices cannot be redesigned to work as SERVICE's,
82 </I>><i>because a SERVICE is not differentiated by name, but
<A HREF=
"http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">name at host
</A>,
83 </I>><i>and this would mean, that anyone could link up their NickServ
84 </I>><i>to the net as a service, and the best_service() thing from
85 </I>><i>IRCnet ircd would just choose ONE optimal choise for you, leading
86 </I>><i>to total inconsistency with registration/access lists, etc.
88 </I>><i>I am additionally not sure, whether IRCnets SERVICE's are allowed
89 </I>><i>to MODE/KICK/TOPIC.
94 </I>><i>PS: What is actually the main reason for you to use ircd2.10 or
95 </I>><i>later ? I ask just because of interest. (You can answer me
96 </I>><i>privately to this question, if you want)
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108 </I>>><i> Von:
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109 </I>>><i> [mailto:
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110 </I>>><i> Frederico C Wilhelms Fred
111 </I>>><i> Gesendet: Montag,
5. August
2002 19:
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112 </I>>><i> An:
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113 </I>>><i> Betreff: [IRCServices] Is there a timeline in the future for
114 </I>>><i> supporting ircd2.9 or greater
119 </I>>><i> Is there any kind of timeline for supporting newer versions of the
120 </I>>><i> ircd2.(
>9) ?
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