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15 <B>Josh</B>
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19 <I>Thu Nov 15 03:45:01 PST 2001</I>
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34 <PRE>On 15 Nov 2001, at 6:59, Duane Groth wrote:
35 yea stuff does happen some times uunet has been pretty gay
36 before and screwed up the east coast and it was really
37 lagged/offline for a day but nothing major really happened in that
38 short period of time. and it rarely happens so its no big deal ..
39 theres no such thing as a splitless/problemless network anyways
40 so ppl understand
41
42 &gt;<i> Hello Josh,
43 </I>&gt;<i>
44 </I>&gt;<i> Yes that's all good and well, but that is like having your head in the
45 </I>&gt;<i> sand thinking nothing will ever happen, the server I do have them on
46 </I>&gt;<i> currently has 100 days approx, last reboot was due to kernel upgrade,
47 </I>&gt;<i> I'm merely preparing for the worst, in the event something will
48 </I>&gt;<i> happen, I've been an ISP admin, and server admin too long to know
49 </I>&gt;<i> better then to be naive about it all.
50 </I>&gt;<i>
51 </I>&gt;<i> --
52 </I>&gt;<i> Best regards,
53 </I>&gt;<i> Duane mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">duane at groth.net</A>
54 </I>&gt;<i>
55 </I>&gt;<i> Wednesday, November 14, 2001, 11:51:10 PM, you wrote:
56 </I>&gt;<i>
57 </I>&gt;<i> J&gt; On 14 Nov 2001, at 7:58, Duane Groth wrote:
58 </I>&gt;<i>
59 </I>&gt;<i> J&gt; Its easier having 1 set of services on a really stable box that never
60 </I>&gt;<i> J&gt; goes down.. but thats only possible if you only have a few or just
61 </I>&gt;<i> J&gt; yourself knowing the ip to the hub and keep it that way by only
62 </I>&gt;<i> J&gt; adding c/n's to a couple other hubs and never link client servers
63 </I>&gt;<i> J&gt; directly to it. we have this setup on my net and it works well.
64 </I>&gt;<i>
65 </I>&gt;<i> J&gt; (services hub ircd:)
66 </I>&gt;<i> J&gt; Server Up 169 days, 11:23:14
67 </I>&gt;<i>
68 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hello Georges,
69 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
70 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; As I said originally, I would like to see this feature purely for a
71 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; redundancy point of view, as I have a reasonably setup IRC network,
72 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; the DNS probes the IRC servers and removes dead server
73 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; automatically, I have the IRC servers each setup with multiple hubs,
74 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; so in the event of any one hub dying there is redundancy to keep the
75 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; network together, however I am unable to think of a suitable way of
76 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; making services redundant, and in the event of failure of the
77 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; primary server that it's linking into the network with, for whatever
78 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; reason, a secondary will kick in, with read only, so that people can
79 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; authenticate, but not change details, this is the only single point
80 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; of failure on my network that requires manual intervention.
81 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
82 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; --
83 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Best regards,
84 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Duane mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">duane at groth.net</A>
85 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
86 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Wednesday, November 14, 2001, 7:45:01 AM, you wrote:
87 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
88 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; I like the idea of managing nicks through the browser, which is very much
89 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; more intuitive for many users who have no knowledge about IRC and only know
90 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; that they can type text into their client.
91 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; It is really intresting for very small networks who pretend to have a
92 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; 'community'. People will be able to share much more information when
93 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; registering their nick on the web. This registration can be passed on to
94 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; nickserv who uses the same information than in the Userinfo Database on the
95 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; web.
96 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; People will even be able to change their IRC-Settings in their browser.
97 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
98 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; It took me quite a number of hours to hack something like this into services
99 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; though, so I would appreciate if there was a possibility (i.e. interface) to
100 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; re-organise all this and make it a little more structured.
101 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
102 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; Georges
103 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
104 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
105 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; Von: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net</A>
106 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; [mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net</A>]Im Auftrag von Craig McLure
107 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. November 2001 21:28
108 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; An: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>
109 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; Betreff: RE: AW: AW: [IRCServices] Backup databases?
110 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
111 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
112 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; Lol..
113 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; MySQL, does that mean ppl will be able to reg nicks and manage nicks in
114 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; their web browser?
115 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; Interesting concept :P
116 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; But wouldn't that mean pw encryption?
117 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
118 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; -----Original Message-----
119 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; From: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net</A>
120 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; [mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net</A>] On Behalf Of Duane Groth
121 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; Sent: 13 November 2001 20:08
122 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; To: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>
123 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; Subject: Re: AW: AW: [IRCServices] Backup databases?
124 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
125 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; Hello,
126 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
127 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; No, but have the option of choosing MySQL for database, or using
128 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; it's own flat file format, the side benefit from this would be easier
129 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; web interfaces with PHP and the like, this unlike some simple
130 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; scripting has to be done in services itself. You should be using scp
131 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; or
132 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; similar for the remote archiving anyway, if you employ RSA/DSA keys
133 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; it's 1000x more secure, not to mention easier to script, hell you
134 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; can even setup your remote script to trigger tar/bzip, then the next
135 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; line to scp it off, so that you don't need to have 2 cron processes
136 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; going.
137 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
138 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; --
139 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; Best regards,
140 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; Duane mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">duane at groth.net</A>
141 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
142 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; Wednesday, November 14, 2001, 6:58:11 AM, you wrote:
143 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
144 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt;&gt; Re,
145 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
146 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt;&gt; well, MySQL support is nice, but not really suitable for everybody
147 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; (e.g.
148 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt;&gt; users that don't have a MySQL account). The FTP-Upload thing would
149 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt; probably
150 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; GB&gt;&gt; do the job for most people.
151 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
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171 </I>&gt;<i>
172 </I>&gt;<i> J&gt; -------------------------------------
173 </I>&gt;<i> J&gt; -- Josh Kirkorian [aka Poison-X]
174 </I>&gt;<i> J&gt; -- Administrator - irc.insiderz.net
175 </I>&gt;<i>
176 </I>&gt;<i> J&gt; C Code. C code run. Run, code, run...
177 </I>&gt;<i> J&gt; Segmentation fault (core dumped).. aww shit
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184
185 -------------------------------------
186 -- Josh Kirkorian [aka Poison-X]
187 -- Administrator - irc.insiderz.net
188
189 C Code. C code run. Run, code, run...
190 Segmentation fault (core dumped).. aww shit
191
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