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15 <B>Strider</B>
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19 <I>Tue Jun 19 16:45:00 PDT 2001</I>
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34 <PRE>Actually, you can make these fake users join a channel and make it appear to
35 services as though it actually joined. /operserv raw :nickname join
36 #channel. Even though services doesn't parse the command and know what you
37 are doing, the services are sending an actual join command from that fake
38 user to the ircd just as though a real user did it. It works quite well on
39 our Unreal 3.1.1.
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41 Beau (Strider) Steward
42 chatcircuit administrator and 6bit band member
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44 <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircadmin at chatcircuit.com</A> irc.chatcircuit.com
45 <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">strider at 6bit.net</A> www.6bit.net
46 ----- Original Message -----
47 From: &quot;Yusuf Iskenderoglu&quot; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">uhc0 at rz.uni-karlsruhe.de</A>&gt;
48 To: &lt;<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ircservices.za.net</A>&gt;
49 Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 9:35 AM
50 Subject: AW: [IRCServices] Topic thing
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53 &gt;<i>
54 </I>&gt;<i> Services cannot know that a fake user via the raw NICK command is a
55 </I>&gt;<i> user of it's own, nor can it see that this user has forcibly joined a
56 </I>&gt;<i> channel.
57 </I>&gt;<i>
58 </I>&gt;<i> Services Server is not an ircd. It does use the list of channels the
59 </I>&gt;<i> way the ircd does. By using raw, you do so as if the services server
60 </I>&gt;<i> was a normal server and a user in it is joining a channel. That
61 </I>information
62 &gt;<i> is available for the rest of the network, but not the origin.
63 </I>&gt;<i> Services does not parse the content of the raw command.
64 </I>&gt;<i>
65 </I>&gt;<i> This results in services resetting the topic, for it does not know
66 </I>&gt;<i> that someone is already in the channel. Because that &quot;someone&quot; also
67 </I>&gt;<i> exists due to the raw NICK.
68 </I>&gt;<i>
69 </I>&gt;<i>
70 </I>&gt;<i>
71 </I>&gt;<i> Regards;
72 </I>&gt;<i> yusuf
73 </I>&gt;<i>
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84 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
85 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;Von: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net</A>
86 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;[mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net</A>]Im Auftrag von GSF
87 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;Gesendet: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 3:26 PM
88 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;An: IRC-Services
89 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;Betreff: [IRCServices] Topic thing
90 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
91 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
92 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;Hello, i use unrealircd , and when i join a channel where there is only a
93 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;services user(fake user) in it.. it says:
94 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
95 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;[15:26] *** Topic is '.....'
96 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;[15:26] *** Set by nick on Tue Jun 19 14:49:46
97 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;
98 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;and then services changes the topic again.. something which is not
99 </I>needed.
100 &gt;<i> &gt;
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