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15 <B>Yusuf Iskenderoglu
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19 <I>Tue Feb
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34 <PRE>I take my words back.
36 1- :NickName SJOIN epoch #channel is correct
37 2- I have not been correctly informed.
39 Sorry for this inconvenience.
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43 |
<i> Yusuf Iskenderoglu | You get to meet all sorts, |
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50 ><i> -----Urspr
üngliche Nachricht-----
51 </I>><i> Von:
<A HREF=
"http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net
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52 </I>><i> [mailto:
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"http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net
</A>]Im Auftrag von Yusuf
53 </I>><i> Iskenderoglu
54 </I>><i> Gesendet: Dienstag,
27. Februar
2001 00:
04
55 </I>><i> An:
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56 </I>><i> Betreff: AW: [IRCServices] Wierd message...
62 </I>><i> :NickName SJOIN #channel epoch
64 </I>><i> does not use creation time, it is the actual time, to tell when a JOIN
65 </I>><i> has been issued.
67 </I>><i> The Creation Time is sent with the channel definition SJOIN:
69 </I>><i> :ServerName SJOIN epoch #channel modes [param, param] :nicks.
70 </I>><i> That epoch is the creation time, for during a netburst, users,
71 </I>><i> which will be introduced
72 </I>><i> to the connecting server, will (shall) look, as if they are
73 </I>><i> joining at that time.
75 </I>><i> That means, it is safe to use time(NULL), because ChanServ will
76 </I>><i> JOIN later than the user itself.
81 </I>><i> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
82 </I>><i> | Yusuf Iskenderoglu | You get to meet all sorts, |
83 </I>><i> | eMail -
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84 </I>><i> | eMail -
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85 </I>><i> | ICQ UIN :
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86 </I>><i> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
89 </I>><i> > -----Urspr
üngliche Nachricht-----
90 </I>><i> > Von:
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"http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net
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91 </I>><i> > [mailto:
<A HREF=
"http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net
</A>]Im Auftrag von Andrew
92 </I>><i> > Church
93 </I>><i> > Gesendet: Montag,
26. Februar
2001 23:
41
94 </I>><i> > An:
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95 </I>><i> > Betreff: Re: AW: [IRCServices] Wierd message...
98 </I>><i> > >But the reality is, that daemons, which use SJOIN, do not like remote
99 </I>><i> > >users (in this case, a user from services : ChanServ)
100 </I>><i> > >directly sending a JOIN, because only a SJOIN is being expected.
101 </I>><i> > >Server to server communications is done via SJOINs. That is an
102 </I>><i> > >issue which might be corrected, though not necessary, by modifying
103 </I>><i> > >check_kick to something like
104 </I>><i> > >
105 </I>><i> > >#if defined(IRC_BAHAMUT)
106 </I>><i> > > send_cmd(s_ChanServ,
"SJOIN %s %lu
", chan, time(NULL));
107 </I>><i> > >#else
108 </I>><i> > > send_cmd(s_ChanServ,
"JOIN %s
", chan);
109 </I>><i> > >#endif
110 </I>><i> > >
111 </I>><i> > >where if(stay) is being evaluated.
113 </I>><i> > The problem with doing things this way is that in order to do it
114 </I>><i> > properly we need to use the channel creation timestamp sent in the
115 </I>><i> > original SJOIN command--but since the channel hasn't actually been
116 </I>><i> > created in Services' lists, we don't have that available. Services
117 </I>><i> > could be rewritten to use SJOIN properly in this way, but since JOIN
118 </I>><i> > works just as well, I don't see any reason to. If the messages bother
119 </I>><i> > you, filter them out in your script.
121 </I>><i> > --Andrew Church
122 </I>><i> > <A HREF=
"http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">achurch at achurch.org
</A> | New address - please note.
123 </I>><i> > <A HREF=
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