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  35 Sorry about my late (and probably useless) reply...
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  37 &gt;<i>      One of the features going into 4.5.0 will be channel suspension.
  38 </I>&gt;<i> However, there are a number of potential issues as to how a suspended
  39 </I>&gt;<i> channel should be treated, so I'd like to gather opinions on the
  40 </I>&gt;<i> following points: (my current thoughts are in [brackets])
  41 </I>&gt;<i>
  42 </I>&gt;<i>      - Should a suspended channel be treated like a forbidden one (no
  43 </I>&gt;<i> one can enter it) or an unregistered one (it can be used, but Services
  44 </I>&gt;<i> won't do anything do it)?  [forbidden]
  45 </I>&gt;<i>
  46 </I>I'd agree with forbidden here, but maybe a config file option to allow
  47 setting
  48 whether no-one can enter it or whether people can enter it, but Services
  49 just
  50 won't interract with the channel at all (as if it was unregistered).
  51
  52 However, if you don't want Services to interract with a registered channel,
  53 wouldn't it just be a good idea to add an IGNORE command?  Probably not the
  54 best idea, but this would allow you to just stop Services interracting with
  55 channels IF you decide to make SUSPEND disallow people going into the
  56 channel at all.
  57
  58 &gt;<i>      - Should Services allow changes to the channel settings?  I think
  59 </I>&gt;<i> this one is a pretty clear &quot;no&quot;, but I'll put it up for debate.  [no]
  60 </I>&gt;<i>
  61 </I>No, if it's suspended the only action you should be able to take against it
  62 as
  63 a Services Admin would be to DROP the channel or make it unsuspended.
  64
  65 &gt;<i>      - Should Services allow the founder to drop the channel?  The
  66 </I>&gt;<i> current behavior of suspended nicknames is that the owner cannot drop
  67 </I>&gt;<i> them, but this is only because the owner cannot identify for them and
  68 </I>&gt;<i> not because Services specifically prevents dropping; I could see
  69 </I>&gt;<i> suspended channels going either way.  [undecided]
  70 </I>&gt;<i>
  71 </I>I'd say no, if a channel is suspended, only a Services Admin can DROP or
  72 unsuspend the channel in question.  If you allow DROP to channel founder,
  73 then all they'd have
  74 to do is DROP it, then re-register it.  In which case, you may as well
  75 forbid the channel because they'd DROP it, lose the access/akick lists 'n'
  76 such.  They'd lose that on a FORBID anyhow.
  77
  78 &gt;<i>      - Should Services allow memos to be sent to the channel?  [no]
  79 </I>&gt;<i> Incidentally, 4.4.x allows memos to be sent to suspended nicks; I'm
  80 </I>&gt;<i> planning on disabling that as well unless someone convinces me
  81 </I>&gt;<i> otherwise.
  82 </I>&gt;<i>
  83 </I>I'd agree here too, you can't send memos to a suspended nick.
  84 Obviously someone did something bad to warrant having their nick or channel
  85 suspended, so why should you give them the right to have memos sent or
  86 received.
  87 If a nick can't get memos, most people would re-register a new nick so they
  88 can or just to bypass the suspension of their old nick.  So they COULD
  89 still get Memos then, unless you've had them AKILL'd in which case IMHO the
  90 suspension of their nick is pointless.
  91
  92 Just my 0.2p's worth of input there.
  93
  94 &gt;<i>   --Andrew Church
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