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15 <B>Yusuf Iskenderoglu</B>
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19 <I>Wed Jul 19 14:00:39 PDT 2000</I>
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35 Hi again;
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37 I've merged my thoughts about this topic and came to the following option,
38 which probably decrease the load on services.
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40 You could set up another set of services, which is started in -skeleton, leading to
41 everything but OperServ disabled, and advisable is not to use confusing nicknames
42 for the known part of services. That OperServ can be used to place akills, and manage akills,
43 and remove akills etc, without taking any time from the real services which still continue working.
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45 I think your opers should not be that much unhappy having to identify to let's say ServBot in order to
46 use the *new* AkillServ.
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48 Regards,
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51 Yusuf Iskenderoglu
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57 &gt;<i> -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
58 </I>&gt;<i> Von: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">owner-ircservices at ender.shadowfire.org</A>
59 </I>&gt;<i> [mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">owner-ircservices at ender.shadowfire.org</A>]Im Auftrag von Jonathan
60 </I>&gt;<i> Morton
61 </I>&gt;<i> Gesendet: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 7:56 PM
62 </I>&gt;<i> An: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at delirious.shadowfire.org</A>
63 </I>&gt;<i> Betreff: Re: AW: [IRCServices] Faster AKILL Processing...
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66 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;Therefore it is in my opinion, adviseable to let services manage akills,
67 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;instead of any server on a network,
68 </I>&gt;<i> &gt;that even do not need to.
69 </I>&gt;<i>
70 </I>&gt;<i> I thought the argument was to distribute the processing across
71 </I>&gt;<i> the servers,
72 </I>&gt;<i> rather than having the _entire_ load on Services. If the services machine
73 </I>&gt;<i> is more powerful than all the others put together, and network latency is
74 </I>&gt;<i> low, then it makes great sense to match them all on Services, then issue
75 </I>&gt;<i> /kill and /kline from there. Also, _if_ troublemakers tend to come back
76 </I>&gt;<i> infrequently compared to the reboot frequency, then this is an acceptable
77 </I>&gt;<i> solution. However, I suspect that neither of these assumptions holds true
78 </I>&gt;<i> for many networks.
79 </I>&gt;<i>
80 </I>&gt;<i> The solution of keeping every server updated with a K-line list has it's
81 </I>&gt;<i> own problems, though. With a large list of AKILLs and a large number of
82 </I>&gt;<i> servers, the traffic caused by the updates could become significant and
83 </I>&gt;<i> lead to further problems. However this is exactly the situation where the
84 </I>&gt;<i> distribution of processing would be most useful. Throttling
85 </I>&gt;<i> would probably
86 </I>&gt;<i> be the best solution to the &quot;flooding&quot; problem, using a 'trickle'
87 </I>&gt;<i> of /kline
88 </I>&gt;<i> commands to update the remote server(s), possibly even with a delay to
89 </I>&gt;<i> allow the usual &quot;recovering from netsplit&quot; traffic to subside. This
90 </I>&gt;<i> completely frees up Services from the usual burden of matching AKILLs and
91 </I>&gt;<i> allows it to concentrate on it's other tasks in a more &quot;managerial&quot; role.
92 </I>&gt;<i>
93 </I>&gt;<i> Again, this would best be configurable as an admin option, as with all
94 </I>&gt;<i> major behavioural changes.
95 </I>&gt;<i>
96 </I>&gt;<i> --------------------------------------------------------------
97 </I>&gt;<i> from: Jonathan &quot;Chromatix&quot; Morton
98 </I>&gt;<i> mail: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">chromi at cyberspace.org</A> (not for attachments)
99 </I>&gt;<i> uni-mail: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">j.d.morton at lancaster.ac.uk</A>
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