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  15     <B>Yusuf Iskenderoglu</B>
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  19     <I>Wed Jul 19 10:02:06 PDT 2000</I>
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  35 Hello;
  36
  37 In your suggestion, there are still some missing points.
  38 First, if a user is connected to the network, the server one is connecting to
  39 will of course spread the NICK command regardless of the situation, whether there is
  40 a services or not.
  41 That implies, the NICK will arrive services.
  42 Because services has to know the username and the hostname of an introduced nick for internal
  43 purposes like NickServ access list managing, ChanServ akick list managing, listing etc,
  44 the <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">user at host</A> is also thought to be matched against the akill list during the intro of a nick.
  45
  46 To move the akill list to a netjoin would require every server to check for a matching <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">user at host</A>
  47 that will arrive *and* that is online on itself, which can surely lead to proper lag on a network with
  48 approx 2k users, if that network is known to have an akill list of tens of pages.
  49
  50 Additionally, on ircd's that do not benefit from hybrid's high traffic mode, or irc2's zipped links,
  51 the sending of that much akills, which then would be resend to the linked servers, and so on, can take *some*
  52 time, if not causing a flood.
  53
  54 Therefore it is in my opinion, adviseable to let services manage akills, instead of any server on a network,
  55 that even do not need to.
  56
  57 Regards,
  58 yusuf
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  61 Yusuf Iskenderoglu
  62 eMail - <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">uhc0 at rz.uni-karlsruhe.de</A>
  63 eMail - <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">s_iskend at ira.uka.de</A>
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  67
  68 &gt;<i> -----Urspr&#252;ngliche Nachricht-----
  69 </I>&gt;<i> Von: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">owner-ircservices at ender.shadowfire.org</A>
  70 </I>&gt;<i> [mailto:<A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">owner-ircservices at ender.shadowfire.org</A>]Im Auftrag von Jason at
  71 </I>&gt;<i> GCN
  72 </I>&gt;<i> Gesendet: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 6:09 PM
  73 </I>&gt;<i> An: <A HREF="http://www.ircservices.za.net/mailman/listinfo/ircservices">ircservices at ender.shadowfire.org</A>
  74 </I>&gt;<i> Betreff: [IRCServices] Faster AKILL Processing...
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  76 </I>&gt;<i>
  77 </I>&gt;<i> As we all know, having a large Akill list can really bog down services,
  78 </I>&gt;<i> espeacially on a large network.  Well now that Services supports an
  79 </I>&gt;<i> immediate AKILL option I know a way that services can process akills much
  80 </I>&gt;<i> more efficiently, however on older IRCD's it may not work so this
  81 </I>&gt;<i> should be
  82 </I>&gt;<i> a configurable option.
  83 </I>&gt;<i>
  84 </I>&gt;<i> Currently Services tracks every user who connects to the network,
  85 </I>&gt;<i> and if a
  86 </I>&gt;<i> match is found, will issue a /KILL for that user.  What I am
  87 </I>&gt;<i> suggesting is
  88 </I>&gt;<i> as soon as Services connects to it's uplink, or whenever a new server
  89 </I>&gt;<i> connects to the network have Services send out it's entire AKILL
  90 </I>&gt;<i> list, and
  91 </I>&gt;<i> on the Supported servers, a KLINE will be added.
  92 </I>&gt;<i>
  93 </I>&gt;<i> This option can take some extra weight off of Services as it no
  94 </I>&gt;<i> longer needs
  95 </I>&gt;<i> to check every connecting user for a match but instead it will spead out
  96 </I>&gt;<i> over all the IRCD's when they process their KLINEs.
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